game-discussion

[sullen finch]

Crazy a warlock only player is saying it's easy to solo boss as a barb

[rapid arrow]

gonna ai art this later thank you

[rapid arrow]

barb was the first class i played and is literally so busted lmao if u are a barb and having issues against wrlocks then maybe u shouldnt be playing barb lmao try ranger where u can keep distance i guess if thats too hard for u

[jolly night]

Warlock blood kiss 💋

[wind pumice]

why every1 a barb hater

[rapid arrow]

cuz ppl like cjcmoney play barb

[sullen finch]

How is it busted to have the lowest MS in base kit with weapon out, you get one hit then phantomize and they can still heal while being untouchable don't forget about the 10% MS boost

[rapid arrow]

phantomize happens almost always when a warlock is cornered or low asf, a warlock who hits both curses wont be able to even get to half hp in a phantomize chase them and when they pop out hit them dont give them distance idk how u dont know how to fight against warlocks lmao

[sullen finch]

You 100% do not play barb LOL, Warlock only

[wind pumice]

is a crouch accel w an overhead a reliable way of dealing with longsword? i see it hits them in the stomach usually

[rapid arrow]

i do you really just come across as a bad barb

[sullen finch]

Lose MS while attacking, lose MS while switching weapons, magic book has the lowest -MS while every 2 handed axe is at least -35 MS, plus warlock get's a MS boost while they can heal from one spell

[rapid arrow]

yes warlock only with a lvl 100+ ranger, fighter, barb, druid, and wizard too on this account

[jolly night]

Use longsword and hold block to play a game of chicken

[wind pumice]

i only like barbarian

[jolly night]

And? Use longsword and hold block to play a game of chicken to see who swings first

[zealous chasm]

That is misinformation, a bear can not one shot anyone.

[wind pumice]

i cant

[jolly night]

Yo can you just gotta believe

[sullen finch]

okay sure 😂 and you just run away when you play barb

[zealous chasm]

I'd chuck a blade at their face.

[weak stratus]

You do in PvE
Bosses / Mob trains in highroller

[solid plaza]

is there any news on new blue shard items?

[rapid arrow]

nah i run people down because i know how to play the classes in this game and barb is literally w key meta rn with the right builds

[sullen finch]

no you'll cast one hellfire then CoP then flamewalk

[jolly night]

They parry it and the blade returns like a boomerang

[limber verge]

lmfao, tell me you dont play highroller without telling me you dont play high roller.

[sullen finch]

😂 sure after you play a doorway for 5 min?

[rapid arrow]

i wish arena was in so i could run you down with every class and finally realize your just bad

[sullen finch]

yeah sure I'll walk your fighter with a barb then you'll play warlock or bard with bow 😂 fun

[jolly night]

Just kiss already or get freaky

[rapid arrow]

im waiting for arena to get freaky, Steven!

[sullen finch]

at least you can tell what I'm trying to do 😎

[sullen finch]

I know you only play those easy classes bard or warlock, just easy mode when you play those two

[rapid arrow]

again, would happily run you down with any class even your main

[sullen finch]

with a warlock don't forget that part

[jolly night]

I bet you would run cj down

[rapid arrow]

and barbarian dont forget that part

[sullen finch]

nope just warlock and bard, you don't play fighter or barb

[rapid arrow]

saying ud lose in a 1v1 to a bard lmao u really are a shit barb huh lol my barb and fighter are my mains but ok man

[sullen finch]

Sureee

[blazing pulsar]

is there going to be an update today?

[worldly grove]

does anyone know if cleric will get buffed

[cobalt mica]

Yes

[real timber]

Why would cleric be buffed?

[grizzled ether]

So are we going to be able to get previous season rewards if we missed them?

[subtle heart]

most likely not. seasons rewards locked in the vault. only thing that will be available will be the things earned through the quest lines

[grizzled ether]

Thats shitty for me and anyone who missed the nightmare skeleton

[subtle heart]

shrugs i'm sure there will be better skins

[chilly viper]

patch day?

[agile rock]

You are barb in real life cause you are unga bunga stupid af xD

[zenith copper]

I wish the arming swords thrust attack was either 1st or 2nd in its combo.

[rugged wing]

probably not lmao

[cursive vine]

Yeah but that's also what makes it a flex for those who made it

[gaunt reef]

anyone else have matchmaking issues where you queue for a map, and the game doesn't connect for a bit. and then it suddenly says you have to reconnect, and then exits you to your character select?

[grizzled ether]

Yeah definitely, if it wasnt bis i wouldnt even mind missing out on it.

[cursive vine]

True, the fact the stats are unique (so far) sucks

[stoic heart]

Can someone explain on a rogue why you’d focus dex w rondel / str w stiletto?

[peak lion]

im a warlock. should I use a magical ball with my sword or sword and shield and on my number 2 use spellbook

[shy lichen]

Why no patch?

[violet tree]

Can someone give me a quick gist on what 'Phase Value' is in the context of boss articles about how often they attack?

[scenic hornet]

did they add the arena mode yet ?

[cursive vine]

Depends on playstyle preference tbh, spellbook is the fastest casting utensil in game but switching to it obv takes time. Having a shield in general is great and makes a lot of mobs easier, especially before you know the movesets and how to dodge them.
Test it ut and find your groove id say

[shy lichen]

DROP A FUCKING PATCH TODAY IROAN MACEE

[grizzled ether]

Skibidi patch?

[sage osprey]

have they thought about doing a island type dungeon with ruins on it?

[hard rock]

Yup ruins is planned next

[vagrant frost]

can I know who is the boss by the map layout on inferno?

[sage osprey]

noice

[zinc knot]

anyone having trouble connecting to server?

[charred cave]

men how the fuck does a warlock manages to use a longsword and throw spells

[flat goblet]

no

[spare elbow]

Used to, but it was patched out so its random.

[vagrant frost]

thanks

[mint otter]

i just listed 2 gold coin purses for 1500g each as a joke and they both sold instantly💀

[cursive vine]

Youre a born nft trader

[shy lichen]

PATCH THE GAME IRON MACE

[vagrant frost]

what are the dark magic spells of warlock?

[turbid falcon]

U used to but idk if they changed it

[chrome parcel]

Is it just me or do wendigo hooves like not drop? I've had over 15 claws, no hoof

[blazing latch]

WHERES THE PATCH

[empty viper]

When is the reset?

[charred cave]

1 or 2 months

[trail reef]

Please fix queues so i can get full matches please 🙂

[blazing latch]

@trail reef no way, dead lobby = free demi

[earnest silo]

When you complete quests that upgrade your squire it should apply across all your characters.

[shy lichen]

PATCH THE GAME IRON MACE

[worn nova]

Does anyone else have problems with recording the game via Nvidia Experience or MSI Afterburner?

[hard rock]

Is iron mace patching something soon?

[worn nova]

Both of those seem to not show up in the game for some reason

[blissful maple]

no patch?

[white scroll]

https://youtube.com/shorts/smDg94z0qrk?si=VIBrauMNa_bisEmp

[elder orbit]

When is next patch?

[dusty ether]

fighter must be nerfed

[silent fulcrum]

fighter just got buffed, wtf.

[white bane]

Yeah I don't know why they decided to buff fighter when it was already as strong and versatile as it was.

[signal ibex]

It makes no sense that a warlock can gain health from a hydra. Remove that and make the hydra last longer.

[regal hamlet]

The amount of vile, racist names in this game is crazy. How are they not banned at all lol

[undone wasp]

How is the druid balanced, idk man

[vapid arch]

because people dont report them

[regal hamlet]

ya crazy. I report em and see them still in my games 2-3 weeks later. As if they just don't even ban people lol

[scarlet bronze]

because the whole mimmick of the class is that it can heal themselves. if you remove that the class is done (if you don't buff anything else)

[manic haven]

Is there a pvp hotspot in Crypts 1? (the one without broken bridge or pyramid)

[lament helm]

Almost 1 week since #57-2 was released. You can go ahead and revert that now

[shut kite]

Four Rooms and Sanctum maybe? Four rooms is right near the Vault but not in it so it gets traversed a lot- and Sanctum has a 100% Wraith spawn chance and so there is almost always someone in there

[blazing pulsar]

the way move speed works in this game is an indicator of a major underline mental problem...

[mystic scarab]

Who cares

[real cairn]

I'm a rogue main and tbh I think rogues and warlocks could both do with just a redesign. I understand that hide is not fun to play against, and I understand that warlocks being able to disappear for 10-15 seconds and come back at full health over and over again isn't fun to play against either. Both classes would do with a straight up redesign, I'm fine if they removed hide from my rogue as long as they gave us something else to do instead. It's better than keeping hide in the game, crippling it so it's virtually unusable and then not giving rogues an alternative.

[regal hamlet]

obviously you lol

[mystic scarab]

You mistake me, who cares about dumb names? Like what does it matter.

[scarlet bronze]

i agree on that. the same way they redesigned bard they could do the same for warlocks and rogues

[real cairn]

I barely used hide anyway since they nerfed its duration so heavily. I just use shadows. If they removed hide entirely it would do very little to harm how I play rogue, but it would be nice if we got something else instead because like 1/4 of the rogue perks are pretty much based around doing stuff with hide. Would be nice to have a variety of poison options or something, straight up invisibility is never going to be fun to play against

[scarlet bronze]

give rogues a perk that allow to use traps. make it be a dual perk with poison

[toxic mantle]

WHEN DWARF

[blazing pulsar]

hopefully never, it will break this game. what a horrible idea

[toxic mantle]

WHEN DWARF

[real cairn]

They already said dwarf is planned

[blazing pulsar]

major fail...

[shut kite]

if they add dwarfs they could just make them so they are like a foot shorter than normal characters in the game or something

[toxic mantle]

no one is asking you to hang out in a discord chat about a game who's devs plan to release major failures WHEN DWARF

[blazing pulsar]

apparantly someone has to tell them

[real cairn]

They specifically stated they won't remove the racial stats because if they did that, they wouldn't be able to balance shorter races like dwarves by giving them stat penalties

[shut kite]

imagine if they add dwarves and you could throw them if they are in your duos or trios team

[toxic mantle]

YES

[shut kite]

in the worlds shittiest Gimli impersonation "Toss me... I can't make the jump"

[open gyro]

toss me. I cannot jump the distance you have to toss me!

throws your dwarf player into the warlock farming troll boss
lord of the rings sound track starts to play

[toxic mantle]

i just want to be short, slow, and have a big ass head

and have a beard as a female

[solid plaza]

anyone got good tip to survive black axe skeleton xD

[strong slate]

What kind of gear are you expected to have if you go to the tavern board and say lfg bossing?

[solid plaza]

i go bosses with any gear others want

[proper cloud]

Crouch and circle to your right, the horizontal will go over you

[solid plaza]

i feel like he just keeps chopping without chance to attack tho

[earnest silo]

Hydra life drain together is just broken. All you have to do to fix that class is make it so you can get heath back from hydras. There are so many builds warlocks can go but you have to go hydra life drain because it's broken healing/utility wise.

[proper cloud]

Hit its legs as you're circling

[runic turtle]

keep some distance so he doesnt do the sweep attack. the charge overhead is easier to dodge by circling him

[solid plaza]

i swear that black skeleton is harder then any boss for me

[proper cloud]

They're a stupid enemy, yes

[runic turtle]

i honestly hate the nightmare spear more lol. the swipe always gets me

[solid plaza]

spear is easy to parry for me

[runic turtle]

yea longsword is good but i play barb mostly

[solid plaza]

to parry sweep can crouch and look up dont know if that dodges his attack tho

[strong slate]

How difficult is it for a 24gs solo druid noobie to boss?

[shy lichen]

PATCH THE GAME IRON MACE

[solid plaza]

for noobie you will die a lot but after you learn its very easy

[sullen finch]

you're a warlock in real life toxic asf

[noble zodiac]

depends on boss. If you get hit by cyclops or cave troll you dead either way

[shut kite]

honestly I have died to nightmare axe skeleton more than any other boss- maybe not more than barbarian players but still

[agile rock]

Okay if you think but i would be rather toxic asf then dumb like you so i take it bro

[strong slate]

Seems like my biggest issue is other players x.x Can't really 1v1 as druid

[worn nova]

dude is going to connect head hits like a goblin

[solid plaza]

in -25 i dont get many ppl in boss rooms

[strong slate]

Really? Because 5/5 attempts I have died to players 🤣

[solid plaza]

weird i did boss like 50 times already and got like 5 players in -25 lobby

[sullen finch]

I guess if having no skill is fun to you
I would rather be* btw

[noble zodiac]

skill issue lol. I 1v1 and 1v2 all day

[strong slate]

Sorry my badge is wrong give me a sec, playing druid lol

[agile rock]

Actually from 10 games you meet like 5 times players like two days before we were fighting for cave troll and there was 7 players xD but that was like over normal 1-2 max

[solid plaza]

maybe also depends on time your playing

[strong slate]

I also only have 45 hours, and I keep hearing that druid is very difficult to solo in low gs so it feels like everything is just stacked against me here

[karmic comet]

We call upon the creators of Dark and Darker to heed our plea. To recognize that we, the loyal player base, have a rightful stake in the world we have helped to build and sustain. Our investment goes beyond financial; it is emotional and communal. We are the heartbeat of Dark and Darker, and our collective experience should be paramount.

Therefore, we rise up, not in anger, but in unified resolve. We request the removal of the rats, druids, and rogues, whose unbalanced nature disrupts the harmony of our adventures. We ask for a game that respects the skill and strategy we bring, that offers fair challenges and rewards, and that listens to its most dedicated advocates.

Let this be a testament to our unity and our dedication. We stand together, not against the creators, but alongside them, striving for a better, more balanced Dark and Darker. We believe in the potential of this game, and we believe that, together, we can shape it into an even greater experience.

We the People of Dark and Darker, in order to form a more perfect game, to ensure balance and fairness, and to secure the enjoyment of our community, demand our voices be heard. For in our unity lies the true strength of this realm we so dearly love.

[shut kite]

I lol'd

[solid plaza]

rats in not a class how your remove it? "rats, druids, rogues"

[strong slate]

Obviously they wanted to remove the rat race. "What rat race?" You might ask? Their first demand was already met, it seems!

[midnight drum]

What makes the bows do more damage on ranger? is it strength?

[solid plaza]

yes since its physical damage

[shut kite]

sometimes its worth spectating players after you die to see what they are doing, you can learn how to fight better

sometimes its worth just going in with squire trash gear and trying one of the harder maps even if you die

[noble zodiac]

anyone else getting ridiculous stuttering on USWest? Making boss runs tough

[solid plaza]

i had weird big fps drops on high end pc changed some settings and works normal now

[noble zodiac]

refund it then and gtfo, this isnt an airport no need to announce your departure

[real cairn]

I'm sure that'll tell them. Good job 😄

[smoky dock]

You bought the game to only play Goblin caves?

[silent fulcrum]

Feel you on that.

[strong slate]

Just... Play another map?

[noble zodiac]

LOL

[solid plaza]

so if they remove the map you have nothing to play

[silent fulcrum]

Unfortunatly my chimp friend, you will have to play other maps to complete quests, unless you have already cleared all the quests then ignore me.

[noble zodiac]

"im only good enough for goblin caves so please change the entire map rotation so i only have to hit goblins please"

[solid plaza]

they will add 2 more maps

[silent fulcrum]

The rewards? you can get some pretty good rolls on the rewards, well I did on mine anyway. Also unlocks access to gear crafting, but I guess if you have that one one character already its a none issue.

[noble zodiac]

lol so you have personally decided to enjoy 1/6th of the game and come here to complain. Unreal take there sport. The quests literally teach you the different maps slowly.

[solid plaza]

skill issue get good on all maps

[signal ibex]

Dang I wanted to get home and have the patch be done

[noble zodiac]

can literally do that on any map, while doing the quests. You are so close there lil one. SO CLOSE to actually playing the game!

[shy lichen]

PATCH THE GAME IRON MACE

[silent fulcrum]

No need to be like that about it, hey at least I'm not typing "YoU PaY jUsT tO GoBlIn CaVe?" You do you kkiky, was just pointing out questing unlocks some key features you might need on at least one charater. Have fun in the caves!

[noble zodiac]

you are so weird.... you want to come here and complain but then you call someone a slave for trying to show you how to get more out of the game? What an absolute creep lol

[silent fulcrum]

No shame in wanting to run only goblin caves imo, it is a good map to play especially if you run melee classes. To be fair the game is free now, and even for those of us that paid for it we probably earnt the money back ten fold what we paid by now.

[noble zodiac]

"I wanna make the game more difficult and then come here and complain about it" OK weirdo, do your little swim upstream. Make it harder on yourself, youre such a champion!

[silent fulcrum]

My point being, do what makes you enjoy the game xD

[signal ibex]

So they're gonna just give druid one more treant cast and call it a day, yeah?

[pure beacon]

Just be happy that you have a max downtime of 6 minutes ,i remember playtest where we could only play our specific map once every 1.5 hours

[silent fulcrum]

NAH MAN, they better fix the tree kill not coming up in kill feed and not technically being a player kill first. We deserve to know if someone got tree'd, because it would be funny to see.

[pure beacon]

It was due to the low player count of like 3-5k i think. The current rotation is a good option and most matches start after like 15 sec

[silent fulcrum]

Especially after getting back on steam

[pure beacon]

The problem will always be that we cant run too many queues at the same time or else it will split the people to much in to diffrent queues

[shut kite]

when you drink a potion, you make a sound that other players can hear? right? so like... invisibility potions are almost useless in that even if you drank one, they still hear you and know you are in there?

[void raft]

whats best race for barb and fighter?

[zealous chasm]

? Is the loot still sucking today? I was pulling lots of white junk from normals

[wind pumice]

elf i think

[shut kite]

I don't think it matters, the only thing that can kill you as a barb or PDR fighter is another barb or PDR fighter

[tacit kite]

bro what

[fair crater]

Elf if gear Lycan for budget - barb

[whole terrace]

There is no reason to play ANYTHING other than barbarian

Is that the 50th barbarian with zweihander, dominating the lobby with a kit worth 800 gold???? YES IT IS 😄 😄 😄

[bold cradle]

will there be any patch today?

[wind pumice]

barbarian gameplay is fun, its very relatable as i also scream at random intervals

[whole terrace]

barbarian is completely broken

[wind pumice]

not same!! i have strong bones!!

[wanton otter]

barb is v. strong once they actually catch u

[wind pumice]

this is the only hurdle, many simply cant

[runic turtle]

fighter with zwei actually has better dps than barb with sword mastery . but longsword is just too good so no one runs it

[wanton otter]

zwei takes some brains to use properly. It's quite easy to brick against walls and lanterns. Personally I avoid it in cave spaces, the random bit of stone that juts out tend to add a layer of randomness I die in. Longsword lunge fits in tight spaces.

[flat goblet]

Bro illiterate?

[whole terrace]

It doesn't matter. What matters is that barbarian is a complete menace because you can pay scraps to be move powerful than any other class in anything below high gear.

[shut kite]

you think I could kill another player by beating them to death with a Lute using Ignite on Wizard?

[nimble pumice]

Centaur hoof drop chance? seems impossible

[wanton otter]

Like 10%

[zealous chasm]

Nah, happens all the time

[shut kite]

10% so if you are trying to farm one its probably more like 5%

[wanton otter]

"it doesn't matter" okay bro'mer. :3

[merry brook]

so when is wipe

[runic turtle]

sometime september

[merry brook]

what about leader board, do i lose demigod? that would def end this game for me'

[runic turtle]

of course. theres season rewards

[zealous chasm]

"Lovely titles." - Smaug

[wanton otter]

you raaang madaam?

[smoky dock]

For sure, with haste too it's decent

[ember apex]

How would I unlock the mummy? I’ve never done anything like it before. Thanks

[spare elbow]

Only way to balance the game at all would be removing agi and movespeed rolls on all gear. Every stat is a dead stat without a minimum movespeed at this point

[toxic rose]

for the quest season rewards, are the merchants chosen each season different, or the same?
like last season quest rewards, did those come from the goblin merchant, tavern master, collector? or were they from different merchants?

[signal ibex]

Patch?

[whole terrace]

This is literally what makes barbarian so busted, because you don't need a chest piece, you can get mega ms without spending the big bucks others have to. I fucking hate the meta as it is rn, because all of any funds go into ms rolls.

[shut kite]

I wonder if Wizards ignite would work on throwing drums...

[primal rampart]

Back in the day bard had a 1 shot throw instrument build

[wraith robin]

ANyone know when they will fix animal form abuse form druid at some point or they dont play the game ?

Nobody like rat druid, why is it even in the game

[blazing pulsar]

bows scaling off of strength is stupid

[lapis forge]

Should be str requirement but not scale off str

[wanton otter]

well technically it scales off Phys Power, which scales off STR 🤓

[timber hedge]

when does the game wipe?

[vapid frigate]

thursday

[wraith robin]

like a month and a half its past half way slighly

[zenith copper]

What makes dungeonborne so popular when it's a glorified mobile game?

[timber hedge]

does character level also get wiped? or just inventory stuff

[wanton otter]

and if you wanna get REALLY technical traditional DnD, of which this games devs take heavy inspiration, DEX doesn't add damage to bow attacks.

[whole terrace]

Fun game with less bullshit

[vapid frigate]

takes longer to die so casuals play it until they realize its a bigger gear check then DaD and outplay potential is a lot lower, also FOTM rn

[wraith robin]

nobody care about mobile game my guess

[blazing pulsar]

but it does...

[wraith robin]

Only possitive thing about thi sgame is that there is no animals bullshit unbalanced whcih nobody want.

[runic turtle]

ppl on here complain about class variation in games but its a million times worse in dungeonborne. more than half the lobby is cryomancer

[wraith robin]

Dungeonborne doesnt have infestation of animals tho

[runic turtle]

what

[wraith robin]

HEre when you queue HR half the lobby is Rat

[noble zodiac]

my mans got killed by me (a druid) in HR now hes salty AF

[runic turtle]

rogues arent even hard to kill anymore. i only die to them if i get third partied

[wraith robin]

who asked

[runic turtle]

yea bros salty lol

[noble zodiac]

dungeonborne is actually ass lmao

[zealous chasm]

I think most would rather go back to WoW at this point.

[open gyro]

Does anyone know if the devs ever thought of looking to buff unpopular weapons?

[zenith copper]

They seem almost identical in terms of certain elements, except for some quality of life features that DaD doesn't have. Like aiming with bows or better perks, for instance. DaD has a better art direction though. Dungeonborne is too cartoony for me.

[zealous chasm]

No, because those weapons were great! Then they nerfed them to now be unpopular.

[wanton otter]

dungeonborne is refurbished walmart Dark and Darker

[flint charm]

Everything gets wiped my dude, levels as well. You keep the same character bur u will have to start from lvl 0 again

[timber hedge]

ok thnx this will be my first wipe

[flint charm]

Same my dude, the number of total levels will be saved as ”fame” tho but its only visual

[zenith copper]

I want devs to change the arming sword combo to put the thrust as the second attack, or first like the crystal sword.

[zealous chasm]

More like bankrupt Bed Bath and Beyond Dark and Darker

[tacit kite]

i havent typed in this channel since february r u stupid

[timber hedge]

is doing boss's the best way to farm gold? im level 80 and have never done a boss and i feel like im pretty broke

[flat goblet]

then maybe do not start typing again

[wanton otter]

where logic.

[wet kindle]

guys please keep the conversations helpful and respectful

[wet kindle]

it's one of the best, but if you don't have a high success rate on HR bosses it's not quite worth it

payoff can be the best money maker if you're successful 90% of the time

[zenith copper]

Does the warlock life steal thing have no cooldown or something?

[zealous chasm]

Um, you need to use the market more to sell things, I am less level they you are and I have a tab full of coins already.

[timber hedge]

do u just put everything on the market? i always sell to merchants

[turbid pine]

yes, but the amount is going to vary depending on which bosses
in my experience I usually make

• 200-300 a run with 1 gob boss
• 500-600 a run with 1 hell boss
• 800-900 a run with 2 gob boss
  (all norms, under 25 gear score)

[delicate ridge]

I read somewhere they were going to buff the druid today? That true?

[wet kindle]

how are you trying to use it? what's the set up, spells, and are you spamming it or just hitting once?

[misty hare]

having to wait for 4 minutes just for a dead lobby to start is WAYYY to long. Should be 2 min at max

[prime egret]

in what circumstance is an ox pendent better than a frost pendent?

[wet kindle]

we have no announcement today so it's probably trolling for now

[turbid pine]

and of course Wyvern makes even more than that (with Froststone being worth multiples times over Gold ore)

[delicate ridge]

@wet kindle ah ok kinda figured but also hoped they buffed it at starter tier cuz when I tried it, it was rather rough.

Did read it scales hard later tho

Also I want them to fix that chicken attack hit box, it's trash and I wanna kill people as a Chicken.

[zenith copper]

I'm not. I just died to a warlock, along with a random wizard, who wouldn't die and never stopped casting spells. I hit him with at least 2 longbow arrows and the wizard was point blank casting spells on him.

[zealous jewel]

How much could I sell a legendary surv bow with +1 add damage and +2 phys power for?

[wet kindle]

warlocks are kinda crazy

[zenith copper]

Yeah, I can tell. Does he not have cast cool downs or spell limits or anything? Or is he basically a self healing magic machine gun?

[tacit kite]

bro im getting pinged for someone else they meant to ping @shut kite

[crisp wagon]

Have the devs talked about increasing the time of each round at all?
I feel like 10-15 mins is way too short for any of these maps. I'd like to see the round time get increased to 30 minutes personally

[turbid pine]

have you heard of
going down?

[wet kindle]

no cooldowns, no spell slots, their only limit is that their spells cost some health

[zenith copper]

Oh yeah that's broken af lmao 💀

[crisp wagon]

I have and usually do. But it would be nice to be able to clear/move more than 2-3 tiles without having to scramble for an exit.
Like at least bump crypts up to 20-25 minutes before inferno gates open.
I need to find rooms for quests and good luck doing that on a 4x4 grid

[timber hedge]

30 minute round time= no pressure to leave imo

[floral palm]

Hey everyone, suggestion for delopment/balance. Add stamina system to help balance gear and movement. Stamina would be tied to combination of strength, vigor and gear (str + vig - gear stat = total stamina). When you swing a weapon, draw a bow, reload a crossbow or take action (opening a door, lever - anything physical) some stamina will be removed. When your stamina is depleted, your MS and AS will take say ~20% penalty. Not performing action for 2s (catch your breath) will start regaining stamina. Very similar system should be added for casting spells but instead of affecting AS and MS, it should affect casting speed and magic interaction. This change would help slow down the fights, make openings for pushing opponents and address movement speed/kiting/bunny hopping meta.

[south lava]

Nah

[crisp wagon]

Maybe on goblin caves but crypts needs a longer time frame.
Either increase the round time or scale the PVE whether it's single, duos, or trios.
Walk into a crypt map room and you're fighting a trio's level of PVE.
I can clear rooms just fine but I run out of time trying to move from tile to tile with so many spawns

[earnest cliff]

You keep any cosmetics you've unlocked through the store, questing, or from high roller rewards as well

[earnest cliff]

Why are you needing to clear more tiles? I clear 2-3 tiles then it's time to go to either inferno or abyss for more loot.

[earnest silo]

That just makes third partying even better.

[floral palm]

Probably yes but 3rd party is problem of map layouts, spawns and cheats imo

[old bluff]

New perks for rogue would be nice so not only landmine is viable

[earnest silo]

Add thunder dome rooms only 2 Parties can enter and can't leave. After a party wins, they get revived and healed to full health.

[floral palm]

thats arena no? they are adding it next season I believe

[jolly basin]

how busy is HR duos crypts?

[vapid arch]

there's over 20k players im sure you'll find people

[crisp wagon]

It's a sausage fest

[fossil pollen]

how fix random stutter lag

[bronze elbow]

i miss the old random escapes 😦

[timber hedge]

pvp really isnt clicking for me, i really like the play style of melee warlock, no spells, but every fight i engage in i get out kited the entire fight. i try to engage demon form and they run with spells and bows. is melee lock just not viable or is my positioning just shite

[valid moth]

is there even any point in killing the crypt hell bosses if not in high roller? Cave troll got pelt and ice dragon got ore and what not but crypt sucks no?

[zenith copper]

Nice. I 3 hit a lycan barb, he roars and 2 shots me from full health, despite me being in full plate. 🙃

[marble tangle]

Demon Form can cast Bolt of Darkness.
But also, why are you going Warlock with no spells, instead of just playing Fighter with a crossbow or bow?

[crisp wagon]

Parry, riposte with longsword and put him down like the dog he is

[timber hedge]

i like useing exploitation strike to life steal from people but i can never get close enough

[zenith copper]

I'm using shield and arming sword. I got a crossbow hit before engaging him too.

[crisp wagon]

If you wanna use shield, I recommend falchion over arming sword. It has faster swing speed and longer reach. Unless devs fixed that at some point

[loud moat]

barb is only good at noob no gear, at BIS gear barb is bad. work on spacing, using ranged, and generally not letting the slowest moving and swinging melee class get in range to hit you. that other guy is right longsword will 2 shot all barbs at that gear bracket, and if you are shield try shield mastery and even perfect block to win melees

[marble tangle]

Go Fighter, use Victory Strike instead.

Warlock isn't the fastest class, and I assume you're going in with Plate. So you're the slowest class at that point. Fighters have Sprint and Swift to offset their slow speed.

You can play melee Warlock, with or without Plate. It's harder to do than Fighter, given the lack of mobility options though.

[zenith copper]

Idk, I just feel like I'm missing something with this games PvP. I've been slowly getting better and better at dealing with mobs. Taking less hits, dodging better, learning attack patterns etc.

But when it comes to PvP I haven't improved at all and still die in seconds from at most 3 hits/spells/arrows. I don't know what I'm doing wrong because, when I can actually catch them, I'm hitting my opponent. But they never die.

[proven flare]

what is the fastest way to get AP outside of pvp

[feral ember]

What's the best way to make money off excess rubysilver? is there a gear i should make or just sell as ore

[lethal vigil]

How do you post items on trading post?

[loud moat]

they are probably headshotting you when you are not headshotting them. Limb hits do drastically reduced damage. New players greatly overestimate how much class impacts damage dealt, especially in the naked/timmy lobbies they are playing in

[toxic rose]

for the quest season rewards, are the merchants chosen each season different, or the same?
like last season quest rewards, did those come from the goblin merchant, tavern master, collector? or were they from different merchants?

[marble tangle]

What are you playing as?
Nvm, read back.

[zenith copper]

They did, it swings slower.

[zenith copper]

What's perfect block, timing your blocks just right? What does that do?

[shadow hazel]

bro the solo mode is literally just uselss. Barbs have no weaknesses its insane

[proven flare]

Haha, play druid and you will dominate the lobby

[shadow hazel]

yea lemme give up on 40 hours of questing on my other character to counter 1 class

[proven flare]

Ah you dont have legendary status

[loud moat]

it is an active skill for fighter that give you max block strength, meaning your block is never staggered even when hit by warmaul w/ crush, the highest impact power in the game. Honestly if you have to ask what an active skill on the class you play does, you probs shouldnt imply classes are imbalanced yet, just need more experience. YourBoyBlinn on youtube is a fighter player with excellent content about perfect block, highly recommend checking some of his stuff out if you are new and need some educational content

[shadow hazel]

I do. Your quest progress is unique to each character you create. Also, @loud moat perfect block is very situational

[zealous chasm]

Hopefully the coming Arena will give us more pvp practice - then everyone can be the natural born killa!

[cobalt mica]

I'd say find some more experienced people to play with and help you out, or try the knights discord if you're struggling

[zenith copper]

How do I check active skills though, they're not listed on my class page? Nvm, found it.

I'll check him out though, thanks.

[stuck sage]

Wrong

[magic elbow]

How do y'all feel about the devs commitment to the radial wheel for casters?

I personally hate it and wish we could just bind our spells to keys as I've never played a game with this radial menu before and it's quite uncomfortable to use. Curious on how others feel about it?

[zealous chasm]

Not true, you can plink a barb to death with arrows, knives, toss axes, but you can't be slow and let him catch you - they just have more health and dps than any other class.

[marble tangle]

Binding spells to keys would be a nice alternative. The wheel is fine though. You get used to it.

[proven flare]

Idk it feels good for me

[loud moat]

in 600+ gs barb is no question worst class and has been all wipe. delusional to think otherwise. current range meta makes barb even worse

[stuck sage]

Wrong maybe in solos not in trios

[zealous chasm]

Aye, watch some of these streamers in solo HR rip apart the slower classes that can't catch them, "Mosquito Build" for the win.

[proven flare]

what is the fastest way to get AP outside of pvp

[hybrid swallow]

sometimes cyclops glitches and doesnt get any damage anybody know why is that

[lethal vigil]

How do you post items on trading post?

[magic elbow]

I thought AP grinders did PvE and looted one slot treasures no pvp at all
@.a.l.e.x.p
if you mean the chat log trading thing you control click I believe?

[whole terrace]

bad code

[signal ibex]

Patch today?

[shadow hazel]

Barbs are tankier, higher damaging, and faster than all other melee class besides rogue. They also have a perk that makes them have high MDR and they can the bring gear for PDR. They can use their skill with throwing axes to put a slow debuff on people. Using arrows against them only works if you have insane aim or really high armor pen

[proven flare]

Well yeah but i played a trio match and killed two teams and got abt 600 AP only for the kills and assists

[magic elbow]

Wait how is barb tanker than 60%+ pdr classes huh

[loud moat]

You should play more of the game, especially at different levels of gear and different builds. More experience will help you learn about class strengths and weaknesses, and how matchups play at different gear levels. Barb is very strong in melee in low gear/timmy lobbies, but falls off very hard against geared players and those with more experience. You seem to not understand that arrows stop a barb's "go", if a barb rages and is hit by any projectile they HAVE to reset. Keep at it and youll learn more and more. You also are typing about tank barb, which is currently not a viable playstyle as the MS is too low.

[shadow hazel]

you have an ego for some weird reason. Barbs are very strong, doesnt matter if you wanna disagree. watch any high lvl solo play on YT and they have to play extremely careful against barbs. and most of the time only ranged classes can counter them

[stuck sage]

Who tf uses rage lol

[loud moat]

no ego, just trying to help obvious timmies 🙂

[subtle heart]

more like dollar general DaD

[shadow hazel]

yeah cause your definitely the voice of experience and everyone else is noobs 🙂

[loud moat]

Idk you are barb complain posting, with no concept of gear brackets, matchups, positioning, or how the game plays out. Dont type in game discussion if you arent looking for discussion. No skin off my back if you just wanna be salty about barb, good luck in your dungeons

[zealous chasm]

Trios can run around and let one person grab every buff fountain!

[timid mortar]

Can I have 9 barbs and grind AP to wanderer and get 9x season rewards?

[shadow hazel]

and youre assuming that you know more than everyone else in the chat. ego. what youre referring to is the difference in gear and stats. im referring the the classes's raw abilities

[wary night]

so quick question I just started playing, can you play highrollers if u dont have a legendary account and if you upgrade to a legendary account do you keep it forever?

[loud moat]

Im stating you do not know enough about the game to type about the classes raw abilities. Yes I do know more than you, that is clear by your messages. If you just wanna be mad be mad, I don't really wanna continue this conversation with you.

[shadow hazel]

LOL. so much for "Dont type in game discussion if you arent looking for discussion."

[turbid pine]

you can't play high roller without upgrading to the full version
and yes, the upgrade is permanent. you won't ever have to pay for it a second time

[magic elbow]

Wait are we talking about base kit barb? 124? Or full gear? This discussion changes drastically depending on gear score as barb is strong at base but scales worse than cleric or fighter

[loud moat]

Exactly what I tried to explain not sure how to get that through to them, how do I reach the kids!

[magic elbow]

Legendary account is just you paying full access for the game. You keep it forever for sure.

For the first question, Im not sure sorry

[shadow hazel]

When talking about class balancing, most are referring to 124 and below. Anything above that has little to do with the actual class and more about the stats

[runic turtle]

no you have to buy the game to play HR

[marsh aurora]

does anyone know if the steam is crossplay with blacksmith launhcer?

[cosmic swan]

Yes it is

[glossy swallow]

Wheres my patch to fix your game

[cosmic swan]

Probably tommorow

[zealous chasm]

Where is your money to get a good computer?

[merry cave]

does magical healing increase the amt healed from healing pots

[magic elbow]

I disagree with that take but I respect your opinion.

Sadly I can't engage further in the discussion as we have that fundamental difference.

If we talked about class balance outside of gear scaling, then Rogue/Wizard/Druid are all D tier classes and now slayer fighter/Barb is S+ tier

I don't see the value in ignoring stat scaling in a game built around scaling your stats

[cosmic swan]

Yes at a rate of +1 heal point every 2 magical healing

[pure valve]

whats with people killing you while attacking a boss then not even fighting boss?

[naive bay]

Because they want the loot from you or the kill credit from you and don't care about the boss

[zealous chasm]

Speaking of, there is a good article on how to optimize your nVidia graphics settings for gaming: its an article on digitaltrends com: How to optimize Nvidia Control Panel settings for gaming and overall performance

[steady stirrup]

hey has anyone found a fix for "The connection to the server terminated abnormally. Please restart the client."? it keeps happening to me suddenly today, and i cant even get into a game at this point. it even crashes in my menus trying to sell stuff. Its not my internet, and I've already scan/repaired and reset my pc. what do i do?

[loud moat]

That was perfectly said bravo

[cosmic swan]

Some people are animal who just want to PvP. They're playing Team Deathmatch in Domination

[marsh aurora]

is it possible to get a link code from my previous account only using the dark and darker website?

[magic elbow]

Do not believe so

[steady stirrup]

^^^ ?

[shadow hazel]

when talking about class vs class, referring to 125+ is pointless. in that gear range, theres a wide different in whats possible with the characters and thus you can make up for weaknesses or create new strengths. a ranger with 310 movement speed will be just as fast as a 310 speed fighter. also, scaling is about the characters perks and abilities. cleric is very good scaled bc the can bring healing, res, and strength buff spells while simultaneously being PDR. in that case, theyd focus on changing how a characters perks and skills are affected by the stats.

saying theres no reason to adjust the characters base stats just bc 125+ lobbies exist is silly. if barbs start at base with 0 weaknesses, thats an issue. Nerfing that can be completely seperate from his ability to scale.

[proud stream]

#SaveOtto ❤️

[azure bison]

which has more range, felling axe or halberd?

[compact kiln]

this has gotta be satire

[azure bison]

im asking it make a point

[grizzled ether]

^

[azure bison]

over the past 4 days, i have died to 3 barbs with felling axes. they dont hit me, like clearly a mile wide gap, because both we would both step AWAY, and my halberd misses (despite the blade cleaving their heads in two) (and having all the indicators of a successful attack) but their felling axes ALWAYS connect. despite me watching it miss me completely and utterly. ive fought other barbs that had felling axes, but not once did any of this shit happen with them

[prisma sapphire]

If I will buy legendary status with 8 slots, does it permanent? Or it needs to be renewed every season?

[azure bison]

one time purchase i believe

[shadow hazel]

Either the death cams arent trustworthy or theres a cheat going around bc Ive seen players in death cams that miss my head by a mile but it counts as a headshot every time

[azure bison]

ive specifically had this same kind of interaction with the 3 aformentioned barbs, and 2 fighters. (the two fighters were hitting my legs with spears and dealing headshot dmg...)

[floral palm]

death cams are not precise, devs know it and they will make it better in the future when they decide to do full replay system

[azure bison]

thats why im not using information from the death cams. (god i hate this timer, i understand the necessity of it, i jsut hate it lol)

[timber cipher]

yo so i know how to deal with parry longsword unless the guy is a gigachad chat how much dmg does a parry do im a 190hp barb and i almost got one tapped lmao dropped to maybe like 40hp def kills me on the 2nd swing of the parry if i didnt block just wanna know whats the scaling on that cuz its insane

[azure bison]

shields, or bardiche block i guess. idk

[runic turtle]

gotta hit random spots everytime, try to be unpredictable. if you spam overhead youre cooked. Achilles with and zoning properly can beat longsword if played right

[timber cipher]

nah i use bardchie why i said ik how to deal with them lmao just The guy had experience like hella cuz he fking just knew i would go for his arms or legs just wanted to know how much is the dmg back cuz wow i bet it one taps most classes

[earnest silo]

Barb has weaknesses in -125 low ranged can bring alot of throwing axes

[runic turtle]

oh, alot lol. it will kill most in 1-2 hits. if youre super tanky you might live thru the counter hit but will be 1 tap after

[azure bison]

i despise the idea of the parry being that effective. it shouldnt deal as much dmg as it does, it should deal a hefty amount yes, but youre literally not using your full force to swing

[runic turtle]

yea the dmg is pretty insane

[azure bison]

the dmg it deals for the speed at which the attack is followed through is WILD

[runic turtle]

counter attk should either be slower or deal less dmg

[tardy sandal]

Longsword riposte deals 2x damage of the normal attack

[timber cipher]

oh yea its the speed cuz that 2 swing pattern RIGHT AFTER thats just a perfect headshot range is insane lmao

[runic turtle]

i like using zwei cause you can stay out of range of the counter

[azure bison]

if it was slower the dmg would be fair, but it would be a lot easier to evade if they slowed it down tooo much. which would practically gut the weapon

im thinkin with its speed, 60 to 70 on first swing headshot, and 30 to 45 on the 2nd attack. what do yall think?

[gilded turret]

Just as a fyi theres a guy named Huitchi thats his fighter name and he will steal all of your stuff if you die on his team and leave

[wind venture]

How do you riposte in game

[spice sable]

after 1500 hours i start feeling bored of this game. Where is the new content? what happened with arena? and what about ruins? :S

[tardy sandal]

Hold right click and position the blade of the sword (longsword) in the way of an attack then right click when you hear a satisfying ringing sound

[wind venture]

september, let them develop lol

[slate ore]

remove warlock phantomize

[velvet valley]

yo wtf is going on with the game im getting hit by mobs that are clearly not in reach of hitting me

[tidal kelp]

git gud instead

[azure bison]

go watch the latest Q&As for info on those

[velvet valley]

maybe im lagging?

[spice sable]

ty

[shadow hazel]

fr. its just a get out of jail free card for warlocks who play bad

[azure bison]

they did one with OnePeg, and sdf (i think thats who it was) did an impromptu one with JayGriffyuh

[tidal kelp]

Tell me you don't understand how warlock works without telling me you don't understand how warlock works. They can remove phantomize when they triple CoP damage.

[azure bison]

oh I had an absolutely stupid idea that i wanted to share. one of the classes should have a feign death ability where you just fuckin ragdoll lol

[noble zodiac]

Should probably read the dev qna. Arena and ruins coming next wipe, but there is still a pending legal case in Korea taking up a lot of their time

[azure bison]

itd be so stupid to do, like ever, but it would be funny as hell to evade attacks by just dropping to ground or jumping off a ledge and popping the ability lol

[shadow hazel]

LMAO "triple". you can just come out and say you want warlock to be busted. phantomize is just a cop out. Oh you stopped paying attention to positioning and youre cornered by PvE and another player? Just phantomize and run out of the corner. Oh that melee character finally closed the distance by having better movement? Just phantomize and reposition

[tardy sandal]

Everyone begins stabbing every corpse they come across

[lethal vigil]

Does anyone know the value of echo of screams?

[azure bison]

i have no clue

[tardy sandal]

1 skull key? Last i saw, they’re probably the cheapest named weapon

[tidal kelp]

Warlock's spell damage has no real stopping power to prevent them from getting w keyed, they need a mobility based defensive in order to give their abilities time to function.

[azure bison]

give warlocks a force push for an ability with stopping power lol

[tidal kelp]

they had BoC but people here cried about it so that in got nerfed into the ground

[azure bison]

i dont play warlock, so idk what that is lol

[tidal kelp]

Blow of Corruption. The magic damage on melee attack.

[azure bison]

am i the only one thinking that us f2players should get one more character slot. given how many classes there are and sorcerer being on the way? (no shared stashed to accompany it, until you purchase the game)

[shadow hazel]

Hydra and movement speed is how you counter W keying. Phantomize takes 0 skill so i can see why you probably like it but its a lame spell to be in the game. Also BoC got nerfed but warlock has a spell that gives 15 strength and vigor

[azure bison]

i would quite happily buy the game if i had the money, but sadly i do not

[zenith copper]

Does using the surrender emote draw aggro? Some wizard ran into the room I was in, spammed it, pulled the entire room from one spot and ran off.

[tidal kelp]

Hydra does not stop getting pushed. Hydra pretty strictly exists to heal off of and block doorways. And it does that badly as you can easily jump over it. Even when it does hit something, its damage is bad. Power of Sacrifice gives str and vig at the cost of a 3rd of your health bar, hardly good and you still aren't statted to compete with melee. Crying about anything you lose to is just sad.

[livid raven]

what is the hardest server?

[tidal kelp]

they are probably all of similar density.

[compact moon]

Got problem, when spectating teammate, i can't press esc to leave

[rocky lagoon]

do you get more ap for interacting with things in differnt maps? I interacted with 80 things in goblin caves and got 300 ap but 40 in castle and got 500

[sage willow]

How to avoid the cave troll shout? I try strafing and jumping but it doesnt seem to work

[shadow hazel]

you are quite literally crying about losing to w key. I rarely see warlocks dying to w key bc they know how to play, even without phantomize. also you dont "lose" to phantomize, you just cant kill warlocks bc of the skill

[rain stream]

Does anyone know if the quest "winged menace" has to be done in Inferno? I've done it twice now in forgotten castel, and escaped, and it hasn't counted.

[spice pier]

can the pavise fully cover a person

[rain stream]

More or less. fought someone with one today and just ended up getting shield bashed to death. I am trash though lol

[livid raven]

yes there is a build called the wall

[tidal kelp]

Making yourself difficult to kill is the reason defensives exist.

[shadow hazel]

again, use hydra and hellfire better and you wouldnt need phantomize. but you dont wanna learn to get better, you just wanna use a cop out skill that makes you invincible for 10 seconds

[storm valley]

So, if I reinstall and decide to play through the blacksmith launcher can I play with people on the steam f2p version as well?

[tidal kelp]

you can't use hydra and hellfire if you get jumped. Phantomize isn't invincible. That you think it is, is a L2P issue. "just don't get hit and fighters don't need 2nd wind"

[shadow hazel]

it is to everything except AoE damage which less than half of classes have. also flame walk too is good for running away. the best warlocks i see rarely use phantomize except for like I said, they make mistakes and they use it to get away for free

[tidal kelp]

thus making it a good defensive ability. One of few in the game.

[open oracle]

Does anyone know what Curse of Pain is suppose to scale off of? Cuz the damage doesn't seem to go up when I add will or magic damage.

[shadow hazel]

bc this game has a high skill ceiling and tends to not baby people when they mess up. except for phantomize which does exactly that

[hot dawn]

is there a page where I can look up what each acronym in the trade chat means?

[winter marlin]

If you've had 1500h of fun, just take a break man.

[candid garden]

do explosive bottles hurt pve mobs?

[rich stream]

is anyone interested in discussing lighting/effect optimization

[civic juniper]

All of that is planned for next season

[velvet valley]

THE PEOPLE THAT PRETEND TO BE FRIENDLY AND THEN KILL YOU 3 MINS LATER):::

[vapid arch]

game is game

[drowsy iris]

Psychopath is psychopath. These games would be a good way to find who should be on a watch list. They should look into that if they aren't already.

[rich stream]

those people are what we call monsters and there is a monster inside all of us but it is our choices that make us who we are

[earnest silo]

Civilization destroyers right there. Scum of the earth, but what can you do it's the internet.

[vapid arch]

if you think someone betraying you in a loot based video game is indicative of them being mentally unstable then i think you might need some evaluation

[azure bison]

i dont believe so. ive thrown a couple at some enemies that i knew were low as fuck, and they didnt die. i think theyre only pvp

[earnest cliff]

It is certainly dishonorable

[drowsy iris]

I do indeed think it's indicative of some sort of personal issue.

[barren oxide]

Most fighter perks support trilla manila dagger pdr stat check, other are just slayer perks or shield that require way more skill, like combo attack what the hell is this 2 seconds and only activates on third hit where ussualy you don't have much space for it or you alredy winning

[earnest silo]

Shows a lack of empathy.

[azure bison]

bro what

[vapid arch]

i have no idea why you're playing a hardcore game like this and expecting people to be nice, the entire aim of the game is to get loot from pve and pvp
if you're dumb enough to trust random people on a video game then people are going to exploit that for their benefit and entertainment, and if you think that makes them unwell then i'd accuse you of murder every time you kill another player

[earnest cliff]

combo attack on the dagger goes pretty hard tho

[barren oxide]

that's my point that it only supports best dagger weapons, maybe rapier or arming sword but still not as good as rondel dagger

[drowsy iris]

I wouldn't expect everyone to be nice in any online endeavor, let alone a game that attracts sociopaths with its mechanics.

[vapid arch]

so why are you here then?

[earnest cliff]

I totally agree that fighter is incorrectly tuned. The only advantage left for rangers is traps

[cold spire]

moral gamer spotted?

[weak vector]

is there a way i can speak to a mod about account migration?

[drowsy iris]

Because I like the game...?

[azure bison]

what do you mean by that last part?

[vapid arch]

curious how you like a game that you say attracts sociopaths, maybe you're projecting

[drowsy iris]

Use that noggin, lad! "Game has mechanics that attract sociopaths" doesn't magically mean "everyone who plays game is a sociopath."

[earnest cliff]

If you can't see the difference between the situations then maybe look in a mirror

[acoustic flare]

Why do healing potions only heal me 12 hp when they say they heal 15? I don't have any physical healing modifications Oh health recovery bonus

[earnest silo]

Rangers in a good spot right now. Rouge's creep got toned down witch really helps you play more aggressive.

[rare venture]

DId I hear there was gonna be a patch today?

[charred cave]

they arent faster my man

[magic elbow]

We're all hoping

[earnest cliff]

I also agree with this! Ranger just isn't very unique because fighter is encroaching on the playstyle very heavily, if not doing it better

[drowsy iris]

They're magical healing. I believe having a negative buff duration stat will reduce the amount you heal from potions.

[winged osprey]

What's up with all the exits being clearly marked on the minimap, and also now there's like 20 of them across the map? There's almost never any fighting at exit now because you can just run away and hit stairs or rope or raft or elevator or portal

[earnest cliff]

The game is way more fun now that you can strategize around your exit, and around the exits of the enemy

[earnest silo]

I don't think they will buff fighter any time soon to make him better at ranged. Ranger got lots of options to deal with fighters muti-shot, backstep, and penetrating shot come to mind when thinking of bow duels. I think the one thing they shouldn't have is heavy cross bow.

[winged osprey]

I personally disagree, You're not meant to get out every time, it's far less hgih stakes now. I guess you can sort of get around slow mode with edits eh?

[turbid pine]

There are far too many quests that rely on extracting for it to be a "sometimes" thing
The current state of the game is as such
If you're good enough, you should be making it out 95%+ of the time

[vast saffron]

I think less than 1% of players easily have a 95% extraction rate

[winged osprey]

I wouldn't be surprised if it floats around there. It's stupid easy to extract now.

[earnest cliff]

at a glance, my fighter in High Roller goblin caves has played 37 rounds and extracted 34 times, with 12 kills

[vast saffron]

Are you forgetting the games you had before you were BiS’d, in normals? We all die

[earnest cliff]

that's my high roller caves stats, I die way more in normals because it's the place to have fun and pvp

[subtle heart]

whats the meta duo team comp

[winged osprey]

PvP shouldn't just be occasionally stumbling on somebody, or getting stumbled upon... or getting chased down with ESP. Having few extraction points adds more strategy to whether you loot or guard an extraction, how you approach extraction, etc. Way too much focus on PvE

[nova garnet]

Goblin caves are mostly dudes trying to solo base gear bosses, since there isn't really much of anything there except the gold ores, which u can mine in normals too

[earnest cliff]

People fight even less in the frost mountain because they're trying to get to the abyss though

[open badge]

hey is slayer fighter bad now, because whenever i use him i just never win a fight

[primal bobcat]

define "now", he hasn't been good for a while

[earnest silo]

double warlock or warlock ranger

[nova garnet]

not in the best spot rn, you kinda are just a worse rogue

[open badge]

when they removed ruins, thats when i was maining slayer

[earnest cliff]

new slayer is rapier w/sword mastery or a rondel dagger, then stack PDR

[open badge]

ahhh gotchu, see i tried that, but like i said, i just cant win a fight. like idk what im doing wrong, every team is either a stacked lock or a rogue that hits me fr 50 dmg a swing, and i do a full combo with a rapier/ hatchet and theyre somehow at like half health still

[earnest cliff]

Personally I abandoned Slayer as a perk and just use a buckler with +1 weapon or true

[unkempt depot]

what's sk and gk

[vapid arch]

skull key and golden key, they're used as gold sinks and for high value trading

[unkempt depot]

oh

[noble zodiac]

use morning star/short sword with sword mastery. Youll start dumping rogues when you figure out the fast attack pattern

[delicate ridge]

When is the next wipe? Just came back to this game and dunno how invested I should get is all.

If anyone happens to know ofc.

[vapid arch]

6th of september

[delicate ridge]

@vapid arch

Hey thanks.

[worn magnet]

what the purple circle in high roller lich? not the debuff around teh adventurerr but the ring around the lich?

[subtle heart]

An additional damage mechanic. You must stay within the ring or take DoT.

[woven pendant]

is there anyone who would be down to play duos with me?

[rapid quest]

anyone has an idea why the price on golden key is dropping so rapidly?

[icy leaf]

how i get glowing blue ice eyes

[subtle heart]

Wipe is in a month, assets like golden keys/skull keys/gold coin bags/uniques become commonplace.

[cursive viper]

Get pregnant by goblins

[weary zephyr]

The ice walkers in the ice caves dropped them for me

[dense garnet]

Are rouges good at all?

[wheat ferry]

Adds color to your cheeks if you match the color right

[unkempt depot]

is it better to ingot or powder the gold i mine

[tight dove]

Game is so fire except longbows are just ridiculous with a good kit

[last girder]

Why is the poor arming sword like 20,000 gold WHAT IS THAT

[atomic flame]

well lets do some critical thinking here, powder is for cloth and ingots are for plate, now which class do you play?

[unkempt depot]

ls fighter unfortunatly

[atomic flame]

unfortunately? thats the best and easiest class in the game rn

[unkempt depot]

nah i mean i'm sad cuz it's the easiest didn't mean to play easy stuff

[atomic flame]

well go play a different class then

[icy leaf]

how to go forst stone?

[atomic flame]

i was about to answer but i clicked on your profile sorry homie

[icy leaf]

whats worng with my profile

[worn magnet]

Thank you

[zinc tiger]

does gearscore brackets in normals are working?

[icy leaf]

so someone else can help me with that

[atomic flame]

name me 4 rick and morty characters

[timber bramble]

are the servers online? im stuck on connecting .....

[icy leaf]

rly fine evil morty rick and rick prime and tami if u want more tell me

[karmic fog]

why are there examplars in my HR lobby while im apprentice

[hazy violet]

What's the best way to earn AP?

[subtle heart]

i am new to dark and darker wanting help for quests i have no mic and kinda need a carry

[spring spear]

There is no skill based match making. Also someone being exemplar doesn't necessarily mean they are good at pvp

[autumn solstice]

Are we ever going to have a quality patch again?? Expand the dev team and quite delivering content? We have had one patch worth of patches this entire wipe.

[white ridge]

can someone please tell me the difference between A "Max Health" random attribute and a "Max Health Bonus" random attribute

[cosmic swan]

"Max health bonus" give you Health % when "Max Health" is a fix number between 1 and 6 (Depend of the gear piece, some can give only 3 max)

[white ridge]

ohh ya kk that makes sense thanks for that

[rocky lagoon]

just found a dead warlock with bis gear... he died to nightmare longsword skeleton

[timber cipher]

ngl easy way to farm gear just run max hp barb and run through doors landmine rogue will eventually try to kill you and u just 2 tap them with berserker lmao free loot

[halcyon locust]

Can we add a ping system to this game? would make mic-less communication way better.

[sage willow]

How to avoid the cave troll shout?

[atomic flame]

do a dodge roll 76 degrees away from him

[tall drift]

so can you still get uniques from goblin merchant? or was that a limited time (saw it in a video)

[gusty condor]

Im doing quests for Tavern Master, and from what I know it gives you a mummy skin if you complete it. How TF can I do "Frozen of Terror" which is killing wyvern with Barbarian??? (Solo)

[somber oar]

nerf cleric plsssss stupid classs

[cosmic swan]

Either walk fast enough on his side or take it while being at the perfect range to avoid him to charge and still be far enough to dodge the hit

[turbid pine]

"Frozen Terror" is not a requirement to do "Closing Time"
the prerequisite quest for "Closing Time" is acutally "Confronting The Darkness"

so you need to kill Lich, not Wyvern.

[hazy violet]

Rogues truly are the rats of the game. They are the most toxic players

[cobalt quail]

Why dont mob bodies get replicated to the server properly?

[gusty condor]

Idk whats worse wyvern or Lich...

is there any other quest line to do that is worth it? Aside from goblin

[quiet token]

for some reason my friends game drops in the menu too often when intercting with merchants, but not when in dungeon any idea why that is?

[turbid pine]

Definitely Wyvern. Not even close lol
Barb acutally has an easier time solo'ing Lich than most classes because of Savage Roar fearing minions

[fallen shuttle]

Ranged meta is gonna kill this game, playing as a class with basically zero ranged dmg you just have to run or leave fights with ranged classes very unfun gameplay. All classes should have access to a ranged weapon.

[toxic salmon]

What is the spawn chance of the Lich in inferno? Done like 20-30ish runs and gotten the Warlord twice and Ghost King for the rest

[distant sigil]

can the liches slow purple orb attack be blocked by a shield im holding? or will i still take damage?

[tacit kite]

cant be blocked

[wheat cairn]

technically everyone does... even barbs have their throwing axes....

[opaque shuttle]

1/3

[earnest cliff]

do caltrops come back at a campfire?

[wheat cairn]

minro side note Rogue was Rangers Main counter... without rogue being well normal rogue XD ranger has no real threats.

[lethal vigil]

What does cinder go for?

[odd moth]

if i use arming sword and a dagger w sword mastery will it give any of the benefits to my dagger

[opal breach]

yes

[wheat flume]

guess ill ask here, can anyone tell me how i can post voice chat link

[runic turtle]

Look for the “join to create channel” pick either duo or trio. Click on the voice channel or scroll to get to it, right click on the channel you made. That’s the link

[wheat flume]

ty very much

[whole fulcrum]

Anybody know if there is a hidden requirement for the quest Self-Preservation where you have to make it through ice caverns taking no damage? I just did the quest and didn't get credit for finishing it.

[runic turtle]

Shouldn’t be. You might have taken dmg somehow.

[whole fulcrum]

Nope, sat in the corner and Phantomized straight to the extract lol

[runic turtle]

Well if your a lock, if you used any spell it breaks the quest besides phantomize.

[whole fulcrum]

I didn't... I sat in the corner and waited for the extract to open, phantomized and went straight for it. Took no damage whatsoever. 0_o

[runic turtle]

Idk then I’ve don’t it for every map without that happening

[whole fulcrum]

Interesting... there is probably just some messy code in the warlock. Curse mastery may register Phantomize as a spell and give it a cost, taking 0 damage but still registering damage taken or something.

I just did the quest to it's very clear specifications and didn't get credit lol

[scenic tusk]

can rubysilver actually spawn in goblin caves?

[whole fulcrum]

I thought it could be found in the boss rooms? Maybe not, i'm not sure. Check spellsandguns interactive maps and it should be able to tell you.

[runic turtle]

No. It’s inferno only. The boss rooms in goblin caves is gold ore

[whole fulcrum]

Good to know.

[runic turtle]

Yea also requires both bosses to be dead to access the gold ore

[pliant kelp]

is there a wiki/map resource thats current? i keep googling and coming up with out of datee sites

[hollow swift]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N

[runic turtle]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/IceCavern-01-N

[pliant kelp]

thx

[ripe marlin]

i just got a golden key from my first skeleton champion, i see they selling for 5k. what is it for? the wiki doesnt say much

[distant bay]

name one class that has no ranged weps

[distant bay]

questing, keep it

[distant bay]

or try to get to a golden door, risky tho

[ripe marlin]

uhmm ok. ill save it for quest. since im still low level dont wanna risk it

[full oar]

What stat makes Bards play songs faster? and is ther a soft/hard cap at a certain amount

[tight dove]

Bro doesn’t know about cleric I guess

[runic turtle]

Dexterity, resourcefulness makes buffs last longer

[distant bay]

brothers never heard of spells

[runic turtle]

Erm achtually a spell technically isn’t a ranged “weapon” that is magic ☝️🤓

[chilly pike]

Druid as well, give me a piranha plant form so I can shoot fireballs thanks

[distant bay]

magic is a weapon 🤓 👆

[fringe garnet]

Shealion, if you're in here, gg's bro

[tight dove]

Oh yeah holy strike for sure compares to every other classes range

[tidal kelp]

Guiding Bolt when?

[runic turtle]

The word Weapon is specifically defined as inflicting physical damage not magical☝️🤓. I’m jp tho I have no idea what that guy is talking about lol

[distant bay]

ya its a good thing the cleric wears full plate, also known as resistance to ranged attacks! or he just so happens to have the best perk in the game, take 2 less damage from everything

[full oar]

any way possible to make songs last longer?

[runic turtle]

Resourcefulness

[runic turtle]

You should always take the dexterity perk on bard unless you’re super geared tho

[tight dove]

Brainrot. Any class that gets caught by a cleric besides cleric is just bad

[fallow loom]

What's the best setup for sword and board fighters under 25 GS? Obviously "best" is subjective. Just wondering how I should be balancing stats, pdr, and ms.

[remote willow]

is warlock still solid after the nerfs for solos?

[distant bay]

skill issue

[tight dove]

Yeah that’s exactly what I just said king

[distant bay]

mate, you just said that you cant fight melee well enough to beat a cleric. thats on you

[remote willow]

low GS, im new

[runic turtle]

Yea warlock is still good

[azure bison]

can someone explain to me why im getting bug shells more often than beetle wings...... bug shells have a 10% chance of dropping and beetle wings have 15%. yet i rarely get beetle wings, or literally anything green, with a pdr fighter wis kit. nothing i have on effects luck, and i dont use luck pots, but im always finding blue hunting loot over green. thats backwards as fuck imo

[tidal kelp]

where patch?

[distant bay]

your just lucky

[tawny robin]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Statistics

[somber pike]

should i delete my level 22 barbarian for a fighter

[azure bison]

i need the damn wings...

[sick field]

Lich broken? he always does the aoe purple/blue on people constantly now

[clear bramble]

is the hold the line server/ test server public access now?

[tawny robin]

F2P 😂 PLAYER 🥹 DETECTED

[azure bison]

my one and only interaction with lich made me say he can go fuck himself. walked in the room when someone was fighting him, literally jsut made it through the door and the lich instakilled me

[distant bay]

if you do alot of dmg to him he will fire it more often, he can even put two on at the same time if you dmg him fast enough

[tight dove]

Yeah so no where in my messages did I say I was having that problem.. I don’t play cleric, I feel bad for people that do because it’s so easy to never get hit by them. Hope this helps 👍🏽

[clear bramble]

ranger is more fun

[somber pike]

no

[runic turtle]

Cleric is good wym they have tons of tools to gap close.

[fringe garnet]

I love normals crypts money making

[clear bramble]

yes

[turbid pine]

Pretty sure "tons" refers to a quantity higher than...2.
They have Judgment and Holy Strike, that's it.
And both suck if they don't put a perk slot towards Faithfulness

[runic turtle]

Bind is actually good if you can use it properly

[deep umbra]

Would anyone be able to duo with me and help me get to the "blood platforms room" in crypts? Struggling to find it and escape

[tight dove]

Yep you get it

[azure bison]

blood platforms is the top left module of inferno variant 1.

[tight dove]

I think cleric is in a good spot relatively but I feel bad for them against wiz/ranger/bard

[deep umbra]

It only has a chance of being that map tho?

[runic turtle]

If they try to close the door while still in the room you are in you can make them close the door in their face keeping them in the room with bind. It’s a slept on spell

[distant bay]

earthquake enters the chat trolls bane enters the chat

[azure bison]

that is correct, there are two variants for crypts and inferno

[subtle heart]

any tips to do Glacial Conquest fast?

[karmic comet]

We call upon the creators of Dark and Darker to heed our plea. To recognize that we, the loyal player base, have a rightful stake in the world we have helped to build and sustain. Our investment goes beyond financial; it is emotional and communal. We are the heartbeat of Dark and Darker, and our collective experience should be paramount.

Therefore, we rise up, not in anger, but in unified resolve. We request the removal of the rats, druids, and rogues, whose unbalanced nature disrupts the harmony of our adventures. We ask for a game that respects the skill and strategy we bring, that offers fair challenges and rewards, and that listens to its most dedicated advocates.

Let this be a testament to our unity and our dedication. We stand together, not against the creators, but alongside them, striving for a better, more balanced Dark and Darker. We believe in the potential of this game, and we believe that, together, we can shape it into an even greater experience.

We the People of Dark and Darker, in order to form a more perfect game, to ensure balance and fairness, and to secure the enjoyment of our community, demand our voices be heard. For in our unity lies the true strength of this realm we so dearly love.

[subtle heart]

kill x10 elite skeleton in single session

[distant bay]

go to the abyss and just kill? bring a shield

[fringe garnet]

I, the so-snobby and rude little snipe that I am, who believes so arragantly that my opinion is so much above yours, will poke you

P.S. how does one spell arrogantlee, arogantly, a- what

P.P.S. Apparently it's "arrogantly"

P.P.P.S. decided I'll update the message

P.P.P.P.S. I, the so-snobby and rude little snipe that I am, who believes so arrogantly that my opinion is so much above yours, will poke you

[runic turtle]

Play HR

[subtle heart]

guess so, thanks

[deep umbra]

Is there an easy way to tell which variant I'm playing on/

[distant bay]

necromancer class would be to op, 🤓

[golden shard]

did they bring back rogue invis?

[fringe garnet]

Well, I'd rather be styled on by skeletons and a cool-looking caster than a curse of pain ghost in his undies with a witch hat

[blazing pulsar]

weapon mastery should be -25% power bonus

[distant bay]

true

[fringe garnet]

🇭 🅰️ 👾 🇳 ⭕

[runic turtle]

I think 10% would be fine. Fighter pre buff was pretty weak

[distant bay]

zero negatives is crazy tho, hes just armored ranger with that perk.

[steel crater]

God I hate warlocks so lame

[blazing pulsar]

no its gotta be at least -20 if they hit harder with bows then a ranger does then the devs are wrong

[fringe garnet]

Ranger doesn't need armor, they have backstep, they have forceful shot, they fire bows at 3x the speed

[distant bay]

ranger is underwhelming right now

[runic turtle]

Not in high gs. They can dominate lobbies

[merry cave]

when does the first elevator come down in goblin caves mid

[distant bay]

it goes down multiple times

[runic turtle]

Think first one is around 10min comes pretty early

[fringe garnet]

You're acting like one arrow is the be-all, end-all for ranged damage. The thing is, sure, Fighters may output more damage, with one arrow, but Rangers can fire arrows WAY faster, to the point where the damage bonus Fighters have is pretty negligible, ESPECIALLY when you consider Ranger has a perk that gives 5% bonus damage, another one that gives 15% faster bow firing, one that reloads bows with 50% action speed, and one with 15% headshot power. Plus they have bi/tri/quad shot ability, and one that gives 50% action speed for 8 seconds. That's insane, 50% action speed on a bow for 8 seconds increases fire speed and reload speed, halving your effective downtime all across the board

[merry cave]

need the exact time for the 1st on

[runic turtle]

Yea I don’t agree with the fighter is a better ranger rhetoric. Ranger is a strong class rn

[blazing pulsar]

yes man with all of that being considered fighter is a better ranger, the perks ranger has does not make up for the server loss of damage.

[lapis forge]

You're forgetting fighters have sprint and second wind on top of having a massive advantage in melee. A lot of ranger oh fuck moments are because they flop in melee

[fringe garnet]

It's not severe. Let's be honest here, the main bow Fighters and Rangers use? The survival bow. The survival bow already has very low damage. So it's not like Fighters are hitting too hard even so.

But with quickfire, you can shoot arrows twice as fast, throw in quick shot and you can fire 4 arrows while they fire one, it's not even close

[runic turtle]

you shouldnt even be in melee as ranger unless you trap somebody and poke them with a spear or you know someone is 1tap

[lapis forge]

No crap but it happens. When it happens in fighter most of the time it's fine, or even beneficial because you get just melee them. It's low risk high reward class, esp compared to ranger

[fringe garnet]

Wow, who would think that the class, who when you open the character creator, is the first one shown to you, front and center, with a sword and a shield, described as a jack of all trades, would excel in melee combat when contrasted with the Ranger?

[runic turtle]

thats what the pushback perk is for. you create distance by literally pushing them awaay with arrows.

[fallen shuttle]

do you even play the game or just sit in this chat?

[lapis forge]

Who you arguing with I never said anything to the contrary.

[blazing pulsar]

no all i see is longbows, and fighter is still a better ranger, they do massive damage with bows AND melee. and thats the point, a fighter should not be doing more bow damage then a RANGER... A RANGER whos entire class is based around a bow. and yes one shot is a huge deal when it takes a wizard or warlock or bard down to 40% hp

[lapis forge]

Kinda funny you described fighter with sword and shield but fighter meta is longbow and rondel w buckler. Yeah, something don't smell right

[runic turtle]

ranger can legit burst a squishy class with rapid arrows in like 2-3 seconds while using the forceful shot with quickfire while using a survival bow

[fringe garnet]

Here, this is me, playing Ranger. You can see, with quick shot and quickfire, and nimble hands, I put out 3 arrows and demolished a Wizard. Mind you, these were 125+ lobbies in which I was using a green longbow. I guarantee you were I playing Fighter I'd be able to get out one arrow which would not be anywhere near as effective as simply shooting him 3 times quickly #ranger message

[lapis forge]

Requires some gear and you need to land your shots otherwise you die. High risk high reward, opposite of fighter rn

[fringe garnet]

I wasn't describing the actual gameplay, the point I was making is that no duh Fighter is good at melee, you open the game for the first time, and when you get sent into the character creator, they're the first character you see, wielding a sword and a shield

[runic turtle]

well yea? bard requires you to be good for you to realize how strong the class is. a good ranger is a world different from a bad ranger. ranger is always good in 125+

[obsidian osprey]

fighters shoot extremely slowly, and they don't have ANY perks to increase their bow damage. why do people say that fighters do more damage than bows, because they start with slightly higher strength?
if anything, I'm kinda ticked off that warlocks are as good at melee as fighters are. some warlocks don't even take spellcasting nowadays

[lapis forge]

Oh wow you killed a wizard? On ranger? You crazy 🤣 ranger literally counters wizard! Also fighter can just out range the wizard all day. And sprint in when it's in your favor to do so.

[rocky lagoon]

what do colored names mean? I keep seeing teal/blue ones

[fringe garnet]

The point he made was that a Fighter could knock down a Wizards hp by 60% in one hit. Sure, but a Fighter can't output arrows at that speed whatsoever

[runic turtle]

karma reports. blue means thums up red means thumbs down

[rocky lagoon]

really? bro faked team with me and killed me (all the blue ones I see are toxic af)

[blazing pulsar]

look man i think your missing the point... a ranger should be able to do that for sure. i play surv bow knockback build too we all love watching thelorr. what im saying is arrow for arrow fighters do more damage with bows then rangers do. THEN they transition to melee and output the 2nd highest melee damge in the game. if they still hit harder with bows then a class thats built around bows then something is wrong. imagine a barb with a bow.... seee now its rediculous. And dont forget the fighter has action speed abilities too

[lapis forge]

It's irrelevant really, but okay, ranger can fire faster

[runic turtle]

well you can just have ur friends upvote you, it doesnt mean much

Ranger is a very strong class rn idk what point yall trying to prove

[scarlet elm]

Holy shit teaming is rampant rn

[blazing pulsar]

@fringe garnetand i am also very excited for the necromancer class too btw. im pretty sure they've talked about it

[vague bobcat]

are spellcasters the current meta? I get wrecked whenever I fight them

[fringe garnet]

-You're missing the point, fighters don't output higher damage and aren't even close to doing so. If a Ranger can output two arrows in the time it takes Fighter to do one, then a Fighter would need to output 2.1X as much damage per hit for that to be the case. -

Wait they did, they talked about Necromancer class? Screw this ranger Fighter debacle, necromancer reign supreme!

[waxen nebula]

Is it against rules or not? I read one place they said no and another place that said yes.

[runic turtle]

only pre-teaming is bannable. as in you snipe eachother to join the same lobby

[lapis forge]

Must be why there are so many rangers and so few fighters rn.

[runic turtle]

i see tons of rangers in HR tho

[vague bobcat]

and I've lost every fight I've had so far as a fighter

[fringe garnet]

If you're good enough with the bow, you're 1000X better off playing Ranger than Fighter

[scarlet elm]

6 games in a row pre teamers just all inning me

[lapis forge]

Max movespeed pdr ranged options and a heal that comes back with campfire not cutting it?

[blazing pulsar]

more arrows is more chances to miss, doing more damage with a bow is not the same as doing more dps with a bow, the point is they cant have both insane ranged damage and melee damage. and yeah pretty sure he said they were considering necro and itd probly be the last class to make it in! but we will see lol

[vague bobcat]

so ditch the armor

[runic turtle]

i mean fighters are overtuned rn but that doesnt make ranger bad or weak in any way

[fringe garnet]

I see what you're saying, so then the answer would be that: If you're less confident in your own skills and would rather line-up shots and take your time whilst still maintaining profiency in melee, choose Fighter.

If you're confident with yourself and believe you can fully commit to ranged and hit several quick consecutive shots, play Ranger

[lapis forge]

They work because bows, but rn people running in more pdr than you with speed buff abilities you don't have using longbow about as good besides in certain situations etc. kinda stacked against you in a lot of situations, but it's doable. I mean wizard is doable too, still under tuned comparatively

[vague bobcat]

or could be I don't have the money any more to get an optimised build and keep encountering sweats

[runic turtle]

i mean thats why i like playing wizard, i can destroy juiced fighters and clerics with a cheap kit

[fringe garnet]

Wizards one of the strongest PvP classes imo

[vague bobcat]

the fireball aoe being unblockable means fighters get chunked quickly

[lapis forge]

Fighters that forgot they have a bow and can outrange you easily and also don't know how to use sprint, yes

[blazing pulsar]

@fringe garnet but honestly man the real problem is the flip flopping balancing with the same perks and abilities over and over back and forth and back and forth like... how many times has sprint been nerfed and buffed again and again or warlock TM back and forth over and over, instead of changing sht no one uses to actually be playable. like 3/4 of the possible class builds are unplayable...

[runic turtle]

you can play around bows and sprint isnt an auto kill button lol

[vague bobcat]

armored fighters can be too slow even with sprint

[lapis forge]

Why do you think rangers counter wizard? Traps? Lol

[runic turtle]

counter doesnt mean 100% loss everytime, theres ways to play around bows

[lapis forge]

Yeah but you making it sound like a fighter who knows what he's doing with a bow is a cake walk as wizard. It's not

Actually go ahead and tell me what class wizard counters rn in our meta?

[runic turtle]

nothings a cake walk as wizard

[fringe garnet]

Tbh I don't actually recall many sprint changes. I remember 50MS add for 6 seconds, which was really busted but it was fitting because that was when items like the Fine Cuirass weighed you down by 35ms. The issue then was that Light Armor was VERY out of tune and way too fast.

So then when they changed the movement speed penalty on armor across the board they changed it to 20MS, but that was PATHETIC in every way, since a 6.67% MS bonus wasn't doing crap for anyone except dagger fighters and even then you'd have to only be using one light weapon.

Then they changed it to how it is now where it's 15% Ms, then 10%, then 5%, which I think is fine, it's great at closing short distances but not as op as bridging the gap

[blazing pulsar]

liike who the fk uses anything other then spring and second wind, or achillies and rage, and phantomize being on 90% of warlock builds or clerics running smite everytime...

[runic turtle]

if wizard was so weak it wouldnt be played so much in hr trios

[mint cedar]

Is servers down?

[lapis forge]

So no answer then?

[mint cedar]

Me and my buddy cant connect

[fringe garnet]

I might go ahead and change my discord pfp to the Necromancer Boss from Castle Crashers

[runic turtle]

wizard is high skill cap. good wizards wont die in 2 seconds to a bow. how many times do i have to tell you a counter doesnt mean the class becomes nullified in a fight

[blazing pulsar]

yeah i remember that sht being insane, then the change before this patch it was unuseable almost, it was like "well i guess its better then nothing" kind of a ability. I think every perk and ability on every class should have you sitting there theory crafting, scratching your head while your deep in the think tank looking at all these wonderful and viable possibilities. the things no one uses should be the first thing they look at changing.

[unique sun]

is anyone down to do wyvern with me and carry me in the boss itself barb is really hard to do this boss solo with but i need to because of quest line :/

[fringe garnet]

That was the time where I'd experiment with using other skills. I always liked Victory Strike, in fact I used to rock it when I was a noob alongside second wind during play tests and start of EA, so I started using it during that time. I also did a bit of shield bash, which... wasn't as good.

[fringe garnet]

Also, I swear, Ranger is most fun in terms of building different skills combos. All of them actually have their use, I personally love back step melee spear ranger

[runic turtle]

this game isnt as simple as this class counters that. wizard can beat any class in a fight its isnt that simple

[lapis forge]

Why are you trying to convince me the least played class is op? It's not, if it was, people would actually play it. If it's only enjoyable in a mode that has 5-10 percent of the population, it needs attention, period.

Also the answer was fighter, wizards are supposed to counter fighters. They have made many adjustments that goes against this while simultaneously making wizard worse against their own counters.

It was like this all throughout the barb meta, and unfortunately now it's been this meta of fighter rogues and clerics and it's been freaking awful lol

[runic turtle]

strong and OP are two different things. bard, ranger and wizard are strong in the right hands. that doesnt make them OP

[fringe garnet]

Every class is strong in the right hands. Hypothetically, a longsword Fighter with insane reaction speed, perfect game sense, and overall excellent manipulation of movement and other mechanics would be unkillable

[lapis forge]

Disagree, wizard needs buffs at the high lvl as well. Ranger fine if they nerf fighter a bit.

[hard haven]

cant wait to get spell spammed by a warlock and a sorc next wipe...

[lapis forge]

We understand I don't think wizard is op so that was a weird thing to say. I never mentioned bard. Weird

[runic turtle]

it was an example. you put wizard being OP in my mouth i never said OP

[blazing latch]

Bruh where patch at tho?

[fringe garnet]

I'm a Fighter player, that's been blatant the whole time I've been messaging here. My take is this:

Weapon Mastery should only apply to melee weapons, and be renamed to Melee Weapon Mastery.

A new perk, called Ranged Weapons Profiency, could be given to Fighters, which would allow usage of all bow, throwable, and crossbow type weapons, non-native ranged damage, and potentially the attack speed too.

This would also be great in terms of DaggerBow Fighter, making them require both perks to use their weapons

[lapis forge]

That's a pretty good idea
Honestly could just let fighters have crossbows and leave bows to rangers n bards. Would fix a lot of balance issues

[lapis forge]

But I don't think they're strong either in most situations, so idk, still needs some tweaking.

[edgy zenith]

Does anyone know how to check their ping? Or any ip I can ping to ?

[runic turtle]

tbh i think changing perks is the way to fix fighter

[fringe garnet]

How do you feel about my suggestion though?

[lapis forge]

Just let fighters use crossbows and leave bows to rangers and maybe bard w a perk or something. Would fix a lot of this balancing nightmare

[fringe garnet]

Buff crossbow though, maybe 1-2 more weapon damage?
Not much, just a smidgen

[runic turtle]

is there still no dmg reduction for either? i think fighter would still be strong but rondel buckler wouldnt be a thing anymore. so it wouldnt be as annoyingly op

[lapis forge]

No lol

[fringe garnet]

Aww, but Halberd, Bardiche, and Double Axe all got several damage buffs D:

[lapis forge]

Yeah and fighter has enough. They need at least one disadvantage lol

[fringe garnet]

True

Was gonna argue Barbarians alr do a lot but they have no crossbows or bows so ranged is not an option for them at all unlike fighter

[obsidian osprey]

when are they gonna patch in a disadvantage to warlock

[stray locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8QXhvV-rlU

[runic turtle]

charges on phantomize would be nice. feel like warlock just never needing to reset spells or anything is kinda dumb

[obsidian osprey]

I really hate how they can summon a hydra and heal off of it

[fringe garnet]

At least we can all agree, nerf Herbal Sensing, fk that ability, most broken thing in the whole damn game. Makes bow on fighter seem balanced

[obsidian osprey]

can't believe they buffed it. I can't even craft high-level potions anymore because druids keep harvesting all the herbs first. smh

[runic turtle]

druid perks def need a rework lmao

[fringe garnet]

Dude they practically suck them all up into their pockets from their spawn room

[deft phoenix]

do the slayer and dual wield perks work if youre using a hand crossbow? i know it doesnt affect the crossbow itself, but does it affect the main hand weapon?

[inland pilot]

I hate the centaur hoof quest

[rocky lagoon]

finding so many aimbot fighters and rangers in hr

[inland pilot]

0.5% ~ 1.6% chance to find a hoof regardless of normal or HR... like how are we supposed to do this??? It's not like there are 100's of easy to kill centaurs running around every map.

There are 2-3, in the lower level of a single map type. I am so sick of fighting them, I want to be able to play the other maps in the game but I can't play them knowing I could miss the season's race skin. This is honestly just bad design.

[rotund pawn]

I think it’s a 10% chance if I’m not mistaken

[blazing pulsar]

dude i know man its rediculous!!! i just report every bow user now lol

[mossy idol]

is this dude hacking ? https://vimeo.com/993868082

[rocky lagoon]

its not close to every bow user but its a lot that I run into. just all headshots

[coarse dock]

polearm mastery for fighter, and maybe buff the two-hander perk by having it give access to halberd (and maybe spear) to barb

[blazing pulsar]

i also report anyone using cut throat

[high sapphire]

OH LORD PLEASE NOT SPEAR

[coarse dock]

i wouldnt have a problem with spear since it's damage is significantly lower than the bardiche/halberd along with the spots being able to sourspot (whereas the bardiche cant and the halberd it's next to impossible to sourspot the poke)

[inland pilot]

The math says it's between 10% and 29% (at luck cap)
On 1 roll per centaur
But that also means that there's a 90% ~ 71% chance either a different item drops, or nothing drops
The issue with these numbers is that they paint a picture that makes it sound a lot easier than it is in practice. If these numbers with 100% accurate there would always be 1 hoof within 10 kills.
People are going literal hundreds of kills with nothing.

[bleak minnow]

what class is the best for solo player?

[high sapphire]

nah bruh i remember multiclassing. not fun at all

[coarse dock]

i still preferred bardiche over spear during mc, cause the damage is just so much higher on the bardiche ESPECIALLY after the buff

[restive meadow]

10 percent chance every time does not mean 1 in 10 kills

[coarse dock]

if u can do basic swing manipulation bardiche beats spear, the only thing that the spear has going is that it's easier to use and has the most consistent long range pokes out of the 3 polearms (still gets outranged by halberd)

[inland pilot]

Uhh that's exactly what it means in a perfectly sound statistical setting - which as I said we're not in.
If 10% of people are allergic to pollen, that's 1 in 10; or 10 in 100.

[plain sail]

whats the gameloop for you guys?
I used to just take the best stuff i had and roll with it in HR, but from some time untill now, i've been on a bad strike or smth. I cant get good gear cuz im getting rolled and every time i manage to get some decent stuff and finally feel like i will compete on the next game, i still get 2 tapped. then i check and its a guy with full purp (usually good gear for me is full blues and 1 or 2 purps) maybe even a legendary around there.

Im starting to think i just have to save up a little more on norms to get better gear, but honestly im not thrilled by the idea of the rat-runs, or maybe its just a skill issue idk

[restive meadow]

10 percent each time means more like 1 in 50 kills, and that's a maybe, think about rolling a 10 sided dice every time, most of the time you won't roll a 10, repeat that 10 times you probably still won't roll a 10 in most cases

Its not 10 percent of kills that get centaur hoof, it's 10 percent chance every kill, you roll the 10 percent chance separately each kill

[untold mica]

It’s not about the luck stat on the character, it’s about your luck

[inland pilot]

Yeah... because a 10 sided die isn't perfect.
And again... people are going hundreds of kills without seeing one. So it's also not 1 in 50.

[inland pilot]

BRB googling how to get a full gold set with luck rolls irl

[restive meadow]

10 percent chance means you might not hit it in 200 kills, you'd be likely to, but of course it's possible not, that's just how math works lol

[untold mica]

This bringing back the marbles in the bag math problems

[restive meadow]

It's basic math lol....

[dapper gyro]

why is bards buff's not working for teammates?

[lapis forge]

Or zoomer discovers infrastructure meme

[restive meadow]

🤣

[inland pilot]

If, on average across a large enough sample size, something happens once in every 200 cases, then there is a 0.5% chance of that thing happening. It doesn't guarantee it will happen once every 200, but it means that it not happening within 250, 300, 400, etc. becomes a larger and larger statistical anomoly.

[open ruin]

bro where tf the patch at

[high sapphire]

im sayin

[untold mica]

It’s just stats, if you have 1/10 chance and do it 10 times it’s only like 60% chance of hitting it

[mystic scarab]

remove warlock from game

[cobalt quail]

do herbs count as treasure for extract ap? if not what do they count as

[inland pilot]

I see what you're saying - we're speaking on 2 different sides of the same statistical coin here.
Going with what you're talking about though, to my earlier point, there's no way the numbers are correct then because the odds of not getting a single hoof in ~200 kills is a staggeringly low 0.002% chance and yet multiple people are experiencing this.

[karmic comet]

We call upon the creators of Dark and Darker to heed our plea. To recognize that we, the loyal player base, have a rightful stake in the world we have helped to build and sustain. Our investment goes beyond financial; it is emotional and communal. We are the heartbeat of Dark and Darker, and our collective experience should be paramount.

Therefore, we rise up, not in anger, but in unified resolve. We request the removal of the rats, druids, and rogues, whose unbalanced nature disrupts the harmony of our adventures. We ask for a game that respects the skill and strategy we bring, that offers fair challenges and rewards, and that listens to its most dedicated advocates.

Let this be a testament to our unity and our dedication. We stand together, not against the creators, but alongside them, striving for a better, more balanced Dark and Darker. We believe in the potential of this game, and we believe that, together, we can shape it into an even greater experience.

We the People of Dark and Darker, in order to form a more perfect game, to ensure balance and fairness, and to secure the enjoyment of our community, demand our voices be heard. For in our unity lies the true strength of this realm we so dearly love.

[jolly sun]

What attributes does the new mummy skin have

[mystic sky]

Can we take a moment to talk about how effing annoying it is that we keep having our region changed for just about anything?

[inland pilot]

Woah woah, this guy does not speak for all of us... like definitely get rid of rogues they're toxic, but druids and rats are fine.

[high sapphire]

bro didnt say anything abt warlock. i think i know his main. i hate infinite kite and sustain

[mystic sky]

The game doesn't even display what region you're playing unless you click the button, so it could change it without telling you. I rest my case.

[inland pilot]

I think warlock would be fine if there was a cooldown to their spells tbh. Being able to outlast everyone at a distance indefinitely unless they can giga charge is lame as hell

[mystic sky]

It's almost like infinite spellcasting was a bad idea. Who knew?
Using HP to cast spells works on paper, but it's kinda pointless if you have 3 different HP sources and they're all better than the HP you're losing.

[cyan estuary]

1 vigor -1 agility

[high sapphire]

thats a good idea. getting infite cursed and run away from just isnt fun at all. with a bit of knowledge they be casting fast

[odd moth]

does sword mastery give double benefits for dual weilding swords in both hands? like 10% action speed for rapier and shortsword

[untold mica]

That’s why true random sucks

[jolly sun]

Lmao that’s so ass

[vernal orchid]

Is anyone else's game rubber banding or is it just mines?

[honest bolt]

Mine is too, but I'm on a plane so that makes sense, it shouldn't work to start with

[cyan estuary]

Yeah was hoping it was a loss of Dex but hey more health ig, tbh frost walker is better

[pallid shoal]

lmao hard flex but okay.

[vernal orchid]

no connection lost on my end, but game is bugging out

[high sapphire]

i fucking hate druids dude i do agree with the guy on that. rat jump through windows needs to be gone asap

[past robin]

I call for you to not think you’re some sort of balancing master,
Youre way of balancing makes the game bland and not special at all, respect the dev team cause theyve made a great game

[inland pilot]

Or just like... hit them with anything? But AOE especially? They have 1 hp

[shut kite]

[past robin]

Its not even a PvP tool, it ain’t that insane that it needs removal

[high sapphire]

at anytime bro could go bear and do tons of damage. ur crazy if u think i want to be anywhere close to him. and what if i dont have it lol im fucked. and AINT A PVP TOOL? gets low and door jumps through 3 doors to reset the fight and theres nothing i can really do. amnushing people by jumping through doors is pretty fun too especially in a third party. its just a stupid mechanic imo

[high sapphire]

and i dont hate rat form just the window jump. its insane and only class that can really chase is barb

[blazing pulsar]

i think clerics should be reworked completely or their damaged be halved like the rest of us

[sturdy crag]

Anybody else experience issues turning in items to quests?

[whole terrace]

No, but you're probably trying to turn in items with the wrong looted status.

[calm torrent]

Recently reached Over 1k hours in this game, i have witnessed the best and the worst. I would conclude that this game is fun but buffing bardiche and other barb weapons made me want to commit to a mental Institute.

[narrow rivet]

Sounds to me that you had a bad run and are just venting out your frustration. Also you're probably a warlock main.
None of the classes are so bad/insufferable as to warrant permanent removal. What you smokin mane?

[uneven bobcat]

Is anyone here can comfortably kill the inferno bosses?

[wheat cairn]

I love how they gutted Rogue and people still complain about them even though they are actually trash tier.

[rocky lagoon]

someone will always complain about every class, theres nothing they can do to stop that

[twin leaf]

Every class is incredibly strong (sometimes)

[sweet umbra]

Anyone know if ruins is coming back? Favorite maps hands down

[deft lintel]

Next season it’s been confirmed. 6th of September

[royal summit]

i want to dig out my eyes to how many times ive fucking died to spiders making me jump non stop without anywhere to go

[charred phoenix]

what kind of trash do you have to be to pretend to be friendly and then stab someone in the back at the first opportunity ? never trust the rogue noxality

[wintry kernel]

are there still 3 gear score brackets or did they get rid of 25-124?

[royal summit]

also they completely did rouge wrong and nerfed him in the places that weren't needed for nerf i just got 3 tapped as fighter from one and they swing speed is immeasurable. they also can use small crossbow with rupture which does way too much damage for a mini crossbow

[wintry kernel]

never trust a rogue PERIOD.

[charred phoenix]

sometime they're nice...

[wintry kernel]

yeah actually just 20 minutes ago i was friendly with a rogue who didn't betray me

[vague bobcat]

I've had multiple interactions with trusty rogues

[charred phoenix]

that thing was really acting like a scared fawn making friendly signs every 3 seconds then when I turned my back he stabbed me...

[vague bobcat]

you guys really have bad luck

[charred phoenix]

I was lucky enough to meet a lot of people who were genuinely friendly, I think that's why I'm so disgusted by this kind of foul play... if you're not friendly don't pretend >: (

[ornate acorn]

bonk rogues and shirtless barbs, no exceptions

[charred phoenix]

lol

[median flint]

yo wtf this druuid just glitched through a door..

[blazing pulsar]

is the herb finding thing on druid really as good as ppl say or is it a big troll? cuz i cant see them unless im standing on top of them lol like wtf is this sht?

[vague bobcat]

well I'm still learning not how to suck at pvp while I push as high as I can in highroller

[wheat cairn]

Nah they just ratform and jump through the hole

[jovial plover]

is this game like other extraction games where you can find gear and equip and bring it into the next raid but you lose it if you die and get set back to zero?

[vague bobcat]

yes but medieval and far more melee focused than get sniped from across the map

[blazing pulsar]

goblin archers turn into chris kyle when i shift into rat...

[blazing pulsar]

yup its Tarkov with swords and fireballs and sht

[charred phoenix]

can you save your death cam ?

[blazing pulsar]

Windows+Alt+G will save a 30 second clip

[open ruin]

its no glitch, druid can jump through door windows by becoming tiny

[whole terrace]

only if you have that stuff turned on

[median flint]

wow for real rat can fit through the window hole... damn they remove all the cracks under the doors so they couldnt travel everywhere but now you can justs window jump... crazy

[rapid vapor]

It's been a thing since druid released.

[median flint]

hmm thats kind of a bad mechanic imo... they need to make it so druid shiifting is limited to only a few animals. What is the point of bear also haveing door breaker... seems like they didnt think this through

[candid condor]

nah they need to be able escape druids are pretty weak rn in the meta

[rapid vapor]

The point is so bear can knock away shields. Impact power is tied to both breaking objects and breaking blocks

[charred phoenix]

ok thks

[whole terrace]

they are weak due to the fact that they can just run away, or perhaps it's better to say that they need to be weak if they can run away.

[worn nova]

Any recomendations for the two weapons build for figther?

[rapid vapor]

I mean in the recent q&a they admitted they over nerfed druid

[whole terrace]

Yeah I see that, but it's not like it's ever going to be fair for druid to be as good as other classes at combat when their movement is as crazy as it is. This is what I meant.

[worn relic]

I dont care if they nerf the movement of druid a bit, i just wish there was more then one viable build, i want cat back

[surreal hull]

Does parrying just not work anymore

[fallen shuttle]

1 tapped by a windlass a grey one at that. Being 1 tapped in a game like this is a major issue lmao

[surreal hull]

Or can you not parry shield skeletons cause what in the actual f just happened

[whole terrace]

you lost "the flow"

[surreal hull]

😭😭😭😭

[stark flint]

Yup. We are back to <3k twitch viewers (atm). Let the devs cook. 😗

[golden shard]

is it just me or does anyone else get a bug that after attacking once with a melee weapon you cant do shit? Like you're stuck walking and you cant remove your weapon or attack with it

[sick depot]

Its the ass crack of the morning

[golden shard]

prolly cus summit is streaming dungeonborne lol

[abstract spire]

really hope fighter will get hit this patch

[whole terrace]

buff fighter weakest class

[stark flint]

The world is big and timezones are real. 🙂

[stark flint]

It's 11 am -12 pm in eu. It's not peak, but it is midday Friday.

[pallid shoal]

gotta' get down on friday

[hasty valley]

meta has been shit for a few patches and it shows on numbers.

[sinful vale]

Looking for someone to build me a few kits, will pay a gold key extra as payment, dm me

[sick depot]

Mid day when people probably have work. Also most of the big names aren’t steaming rn

[steel dragon]

bard and warlock nerf when?

[charred phoenix]

tf is that aura around me ? can't even hide in the dark

[steel dragon]

you're playing druid or cleric?

[charred phoenix]

cleric

wait is that holy aura perk ?

[opal breach]

holy aura or whatever the armor rating perk is called

[steel dragon]

it's the +15 armor rating +15 magic resistance perk

[charred phoenix]

ok I'll keep that in mind

[ancient spoke]

whens next wipe

[forest tapir]

when does the lift first arrive in the goblin caves? trying to do gamba rn

[rapid vapor]

Early September

[undone steeple]

where rubysilver

[solid plaza]

in hell 2nd level of crypts

[pallid cave]

so jabnuary?

[undone steeple]

so long to farm thoses ore

[real timber]

the ore is rather easy really annoying are those escape quests in inferno when you get like 5 runs straight the wrong inferno version

[opal vapor]

Hi guys! I just found a skull key on my f2p account. What would be the best use for it? I consider buying the paid version just to sell the SK, but I don't have room for the 40k gold it costs and gold bags to hold the gold are worth 4 times more... What do people trade the skull keys for usually?

[undone steeple]

Sell the skull key for the game price

[verbal pulsar]

Spawned into goblin yesterday and died in about 15 seconds from spawning.

A druid rushed my spawn and 1 tapped me in bear form. I was in 124 lobby as a semi tanky cleric. This happened twice. I also got 2 tapped by a rogue that had to have been not moving the whole match.

They need to get away from this stupid 1 shot broken ass meta.

Because shape shift doesn't need weapons he can be in the 124 lobby with 40 str and be unkillable. Just stupid

[undone steeple]

You need Jesus man

[verbal pulsar]

Spawned into goblin yesterday and died in about 15 seconds from spawning.

A druid rushed my spawn and 1 tapped me in bear form. I was in 124 lobby as a semi tanky cleric. This happened twice. I also got 2 tapped by a rogue that had to have been not moving the whole match.

They need to get away from this stupid 1 shot broken ass meta.

Because shape shift doesn't need weapons he can be in the 124 lobby with 40 str and be unkillable. Just stupid

[opal fox]

i have a question, on the wiki it states (All curses inflicted upon enemies restores 2 Magical Base Healing (5% Scaling) to the caster with each instance of damage dealt) with that 5% scaling it is refering to magical healing right? and if so that makes stacking magical healing, and the vamprism perk useless right?

[solemn glacier]

is the campfire skin inside the woodsman missions

[lone garnet]

it's at The collector

[solemn glacier]

you got me fucked up if im going to finish that

[lone garnet]

you can do it ! track back what you need to reach there because you don't need all the quests in there to reach it

[solemn glacier]

nope still on wendigo hoofs

[lone garnet]

man they need to fix the sound in some areas, had a plate guy behind me the whole time and i didn't know lol

[leaden jetty]

patch wen

[tidal kelp]

patch when?

[dark meteor]

which is better for high gear pvp hr or norms?

[leaden jetty]

norms above 124 gear score

[waxen oar]

is it skill issue or is warlock just no fun to play against and kinda unfair in solos

[leaden jetty]

everything in this game is a skill issue, however warlock is very strong compared to other classes because he has infinite sustain, infinite spells and a bunch of other bs

[waxen oar]

yea i thought so, i managed to corner him 3 times and every time he just phantomised 💀

[leaden jetty]

you would think warlock has enough crazy shi.t already as it is but even when you outplay them and have them where u want to, they have this get out of jail free card lmao, its such a pain i feel you

[pale tinsel]

@zinc sparrow Merbleseal11 teaming

[fossil acorn]

you can report them on #in-game-reports

[whole terrace]

I sincerely hate +125

[tidal kelp]

just go hr at that point

[whole terrace]

why go hr when it is equally cancer there

[ancient kestrel]

what rewards can i earn from ranked and who gives the skin quest rewards

[tidal kelp]

better than going +125

[limber verge]

Me and my duo have never had such a hard time in high roller. This season not sure why, but everyone is super geared in hr.

[fleet pasture]

Does cleric protection spell stack with protection pots?

[cosmic swan]

Not 100% sure but I don't think so

[fleet pasture]

thank you lol, i always thought it did but i looked at a clip where i popped a protection pot and then protection spell and it wasn’t 2 separate icons

[jovial goblet]

any reason there are only 12 pages of players in "player list" and I cant search anyones name? why is it so shitty

[silver dagger]

You have to search using account name. But if you know their character name you can whisper them with /w playername typewhatyouwant in chat

[faint zenith]

hey hey, what does 2sk ; 4gk and so on mean?

[sudden dagger]

what day was end of wipe announced?

[cosmic swan]

September 6th

@faint zenith SK = Skeleton Key, GK = Gold Key

[faint zenith]

i see, tysm

[alpine sail]

Are the servers lagging or is it just my internet? Im rubberbanding af

[unreal obsidian]

howfix coming soon.... how soon?

[cosmic swan]

Probably in a few hours, later today (Or early tomorrow depend where you live)

[cyan wing]

If they release the hotfix at prime time uk again when everyone has just finished work, that will be so dumb

[cosmic swan]

That's true only for uk. It's always the worst timing for a part of the world

[cyan wing]

If they release it now, it's actually best timing for both eu and usa. Where most of their players are.

[cosmic swan]

Not sure about that, Asia also have a lot of player. But the best would have been yesterday, we can agree that the hotfix timing is not the best before the weekend.

But they did improve on Hotfix timing. Hopefully the fact that this one wasn't yesterday on kinda late today means that we're having cool stuff

[cyan wing]

Yea, we will have to see when they decide to release this one. If it's during prime time eu then it is trash timing. Eu and usa have more players than Asia for this

[vocal geyser]

Is there anywhere I can find the content of the hotfix coming later today?

[whole terrace]

what is this yapping about a patch? what source XD

[cosmic swan]

Nop we never know what's coming

@whole terrace #📢announcements message

[high fern]

ok so i getting smacked up trying to learn parry, i am aware of how 90% of them attack but i am failing, does anyone have good tips for learning parry on longsword ? or a vid link thats good

[cosmic swan]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Impact_Power#Parry

[high fern]

thx!

[desert orchid]

So the patch is soon but is it like in the hour soon or in 12 hours soon

[half hill]

Soon

[cosmic swan]

If they said soon it's probably because they don't even know themselves . Just be patient

[old latch]

In 5 mins

[desert orchid]

it was 5 mins an hour ago