game-discussion

[thorn nimbus]

I also assume this was -24 where barb's the strongest
But still plate fighter can beat him even there

[solid plaza]

need to bring big shield there in 2nd slot xD

[thorn nimbus]

Not the best advice since you will get continously tapped with a felling if you do that anyway and he will get heals anyway

[tame oxide]

Jump and use a shield. Forcing sour spot hits

[thorn nimbus]

Shields are even worse for barb cause most run crush and high impact weapons they will stagger you so much you won't be able to do anything
The only weapon they are good for is felling

Your best bet with a barb like this is bait his swing poke him with longsword and riposte the next swing
If he had a felling its very easy if he had a bardiche you need to wait for the 3rd swing in the combo its veeery long

[solid plaza]

oh well leson learn steal bosses dont do them

[thorn nimbus]

Just continue learning and you will send barbs right into the lobby

[gray verge]

at what point do folks go high roller? I feel like I can survive PvE reasonably and clear a couple rooms but get clapped by inferno/other players if they arent friendly

[tame oxide]

When they want to go for demigod or farm for artifacts/skull keys.
I don't bother without a 5-10k gold kit

[solid plaza]

when i was bad at pvp i did sneaky pve high rollers just avoid fights but for pvp ye your right

[tame oxide]

Solo HR as a rat/low gear is just a matter of time until you get clapped. Good players rush spawns.
I often ended up with 4-6 kills before inferno when I was doing my demi grind

[solid plaza]

ye but if you want season rewards like i did its easy to farm ranks i got to voyager just from pve

only did goblin caves too since its easy to pve there

[grizzled meteor]

Doesn't rly matter it you die once in a while tho if you go naked/semi naked.

[quaint bane]

can a potion of protection and one of magical protection be stacked?

or does one cancel out the other?

[zenith copper]

I wish we could get grey rarity capes.

[tame oxide]

No protection in the game stacks

[quaint bane]

got it

[spark sundial]

If I want to grind to solo HR and I want to use either warlock fighter(longsword) or rogue (no hide) what would you recommend

[vapid arch]

warlock or fighter is the best bet if you want to win

[wet osprey]

is weakpoint a 40% reduction of their current armor rating or a flat 40% meaning it gives them negative armor rating if they have less then 40% pdr?

[quaint bane]

40% of what they have. 100 is reduced to sixty, ten is reduced to 6

[vapid arch]

all armor pen is a percentage of their pdr, targets can't be reduced below 0 except with something like bards shriek

[wet osprey]

<3

[gray verge]

what were the season rewards in the past? I know the lower tiers had gold bag and some other goodies

[quaint bane]

frost walker skin, and frozen potion skin, frozen fire was the top three I believe.

[gray verge]

dang those sound cool

[solid plaza]

you can check past rewards in game too

[hasty valley]

apparently doesnt effect stats like +pdr +armor so its a bit meh. still good in this meta anyway

[muted viper]

Hey, WE have a date for the New Season ?
Is New Season reset everything ? WE lost our item, chest, lvl ?
Thanks mate

[tame oxide]

Nightmare Skelton skin, white torch, sleeping bag sitting down, white campfire, cape skin with star pattern (seminal fluid stains), frozen potion bottles.
Those come to mind

[glad stone]

Bro rat is so funny was about to kill a player as a rat but he got a lucky hit swinging his weapon around

[tame oxide]

You lose everything except fame, account wide cosmetic unlocks and character names. Season end/wipe is on September 7th iirc according to sdf

[muted viper]

Thanks 😉

[gray verge]

bruh you're telling me the oak chest quest is literally 10 oak chests, and things like "Small Oak Chest" don't work???

[thorn nimbus]

yes its super easy lol

[thin bear]

Please, for the love of all that is holy, give rogues and warlocks a movement speed armor.
And no, i do not play any of those classes and Yes, i am aware this would be the most busted and meta one, but i am just SICK and TIRED of seeing their nipples every time i fight one.
This breaks immersion in this game so fucking much i would rather see every warlock and rogue use the same armor than not Wear anything at all.

[thorn nimbus]

?

[pale tinsel]

@zinc sparrow JUST NERF DRUID RAT FSRMING

[thin bear]

I'm just tired of seeing a bunch of nudists in the dungeons.
If they have to have a movement speed cap build, at least dress them up.

[hasty valley]

play above 125's. i barely see any nakeds there besides barbs who use the liz skin and no armor

[thin bear]

Barbs are ok, this fits the overall theme of the class
And i have to admit, i play this game more casually and stick to <124, maybe high roller from time to time, and every time i see a rogue or a warlock (i know other classes are guilty of this but those are the biggest offenders) without any armor i die a Little inside
And it doesn't even come down to the fact that they are annoying to fight, for the most part they are no worse than any other class
Just breaks immersion for me in an otherwise very immersive game

[hasty valley]

well i guess we all are different. i barely care if the next dude goes tits out. just shows he's not worth killing.

[thorn nimbus]

immersive ?
the game where you fling fireballs, zweis have a second long animation and armor works as a dmg sponge is immersive ?
what

[brazen finch]

Does my teammates get EXP if i kill a player or a mob

[limber jolt]

Yes same, naked have to be a sort of debuff so people will be forced to wear all the equipment

[wise cipher]

if i switch over to steam from the blacksmith client, would it decrease the amount of shuddering i receive?

[thin bear]

Nope
Servers are.. not the greatest at the moment, everyone suffers a bit from rubberbanding

[full forge]

I keep getting disconnected from an abnormal server connection while Im trying to buy and sell. anyone else?

[storm stratus]

Any plans for them to remove AP cost or is this how they wanna do their ranking thing lol (high roller) God damn I hate this system so much, can extract 10 times in a row but just dying once and seeing -400 points feels amazing, honestly the worst part of this game. Reminds me of ranking in wow classic, and everyone agrees that shit is garbo.

[tame oxide]

Yes ranked system is getting reworked at some point.

[leaden jetty]

every single wizard player i run into is a menace

[tame oxide]

All noob wizards got filtered out of the class

[maiden urchin]

anyone have the link to the collectors discord

[loud heart]

Is it known when next wipe will be?

[wise cipher]

september

[daring canyon]

lagging and disconnecting all night anyone else?

[worldly veldt]

^

[tardy latch]

Would really like to see like a head collector mechanic, i've been colecting peoples squire protection pots when I kill them to see how many I can get before I die 😅

[atomic bronze]

Did mummy and Skeleton skins take 15% undead dmg fron divine blade?

[brazen finch]

i guess no would be OP

[cunning talon]

lfg cyclops sub 25. level 113 cleric

[young violet]

did they change something about the wyvern? i was a good 5 or 6 steps down on the side (by the loot room) and the ice breath absolutely roasted me

[balmy mirage]

Welcome to the goblin caves where the goblins go wild.

[vapid arch]

any class can solo cyclops its not hard

[neon mica]

Fix the barbarian absolute trash game as of rn literally no balance

[signal ibex]

Lol

[near oxide]

why do wizards have real invis and rogues dont?

wizard have strongest melee after barb best shield spells best ranged spells and best invis? i wonder what class devs main

[chilly crag]

Bardiche having same weapon damage as windlass is kinda crazy

[maiden forum]

How does one get demon's glee rn?

[vapid arch]

craft it or buy it

[vapid arch]

wizards have silhouettes as they move
rogue got nerfed because creep in combination with invisibility was too strong and just bad game design
nerfing creep or invis would've been fine but nerfing both made the class too weak now with nothing to compensate

[wheat ferry]

Am I right to presume that luck potions might hurt you when trying to get wendigo hoofs because they are green?

[hidden yacht]

Hi guys, I heard that IronMace is still in battle with Nexon, does it mean that if they lose the game will shut down ?? Cuz in that case I might stop putting money and effort right now ...

[maiden forum]

Mhm, and how do you unlock the option to craft it?

[vapid arch]

complete all weaponsmith quests
its ass anyway just get a purple rapier with add weapon

[shut kite]

is that how the wizard invisibility works? I was curious because it seems whenever I cast it players have no issue following or hitting me when it is up-

wish the wiki for this game was more useful and up to date

[vapid arch]

well people can also hear your footsteps so they know your direction, but yes there's also silhouettes as you move
illusory has the same effect as invis for every spell cast for 2 seconds

[deep lion]

full HP PDR fighter just got one tapped by longbow multishot, skill is kinda broken with longbow

[maiden forum]

aa alr, good to know

[vapid arch]

that's only 2 shots, either he wasn't full hp or pdr or both

[deep lion]

nah, multishot is the shotgun skill my man, 5 arrows instantly shot

[vapid arch]

oh that one, yeah if you hit all shots its just a nuke

[deep lion]

they should bring it down a notch when you are using a longbow, like if you use survival its 5 shots, recurve 3 and longbow 2

[shut kite]

thanks for the info! will change how I use the spell from now on

[vapid arch]

realistically its main purpose is to shift mob aggro in the middle of a fight and for slightly more move speed

[dry dune]

Does anyone know how many people are in the game when the lobby is full?

[shut kite]

I have seen 8-10 people in a lobby for solo Goblin and Crypts, probably a lot more for duos and trios though

[thin bear]

+1 that, anyone?

[tidal violet]

Is anyone having troubles finding a matchmaking in SEA servers?

[old latch]

Yep

[peak timber]

ayo i need help since i turned off my game yesterday my game keeps crashing today and turning off by itself, also it was crashing when it was loading screen

[subtle heart]

game is selling your data while we are speaking if you delete your account the email will be linked to theyr company FOREVER meaning that you cant make another account with the same e-mail if you live in the EU consider reading this https://gdpr.eu/right-to-be-forgotten/#:~:text=In Article 17%2C the GDPR,originally collected or processed it.

article 17 of the GDPR

[quiet meteor]

Probably a silly question, I believe the golden key has a 1% drop rate from Skeleton Champions, is this HR only or can it drop in normals?

[marsh star]

it can drop in normals too

[peak timber]

bro you drunk?

[subtle heart]

i have proof

[peak timber]

give me a proof of your DUI test cuz u are crazy

[lean rover]

The Dark and Darker mobile video looks insanely good with the character animations, not looking as statics as the PC game. I wish Ironmace would ask them to use those animations in our PC version.

[shut kite]

there is a section in the discord FAQ linking to support articles for crashing and issues launching the game- you could try there
https://darkanddarker.com/support/support-faq

[uncut dock]

the movespeed meta is really cringe

[grim hull]

Movespeed meta has been a thing since the mongols

[uncut dock]

zero skill involved in running for miles while throwing shit/shooting a survival bow and praying for shots landed forever. the game is requiring less and less skill with each update it looks like. everyone is just kiting and throwing shit, even barbs and fighters. only Clerics are not cause they cannot

and now with last patch, all the timmies switched to rogue to abuse the broken bleed with hand crossbow

[grizzled meteor]

Everyone switched to fighter actually

[uneven cradle]

Rogue gets nerfed, you die to a rogue, now that build is broken…?

Sad.

[thorn nimbus]

This game fundamentally promotes building speed it isn't a meta it's the game

[uncut dock]

I did not die to a rogue. I just see a LOT of new rogues doing the same basic rotation of shoot hand crossbow, miss, run. repeat. its cringe compared to what rogue was with the mechanics that actually fit the rogue - stealth

[uneven cradle]

I agree, but it’s like one of two viable options for Rogue since people demanded it be gutted.

[thorn nimbus]

You used to be able to build more speed and additional speed was easier to obtain why are you trying to paint the picture of the 'speed meta' getting worse when it's not true ?

[uncut dock]

yeah its weird. classes getting gutted into defaulting to another ranger is not ideal.

[charred cave]

fighter is meta actually

[thorn nimbus]

Yeah ranged dmg is stupid in this game thats whats causing that part
And yes fighter is meta you can grab random epic items for 2 dolla and fold most classes in a fair fight

[uncut dock]

you might wanna read again. I haven't said that you can now build more speed. I am saying that the classes getting weird nerfs is making everyone default to the most basic shoot and run crap. the game is almost devoid of melee fights now

[timid copper]

guys i have question here, i tried the game real fast first time before i have to go, like...how can you kill all skeletons as ranger in the room fast enough? i never have enough time to kill whole room before timer is up

[empty latch]

spear mastery

[thorn nimbus]

1. Get a spear
2. Learn mob attack patterns
   Most rooms should take 2-3 minutes to clear

[timid copper]

oh rigth, i might look into that in future as with starter gear.... i have no chance i just gotta choose my figths

[uneven cradle]

Ranged damage should be bad and only used to harass unless you’re a ranger or a bow built fighter

[empty latch]

mob clearing you do with spear, pvp you do with certain traps and bow

[charred cave]

nerf the bows in fighter

[timid copper]

migth be i just chose the ice howl dungeon as wrong starter place too? right ? what is easiest to start with ?

[thorn nimbus]

Also strength shouldnt be this good for bows
And yes BOW BUILT fighter not some random ass build with weapon mastery

[charred cave]

ice is the hardest goblin is better

[uneven cradle]

The implementation of weapon mastery is terrible, it should be split between melee and range.

[empty latch]

forgotten castle i would recommend since its not that popular and you dont encounter to many sweaty players or cheaters and as long as you're aware of your sorroundings you got it + you can choose the red stairs and learn the hell and sh1t wich again its cool

[timid copper]

ty for suggessions i will try the game again later hopefully with better success

[charred cave]

i just found a sweaty lizzard in there that just explode my ass

[empty latch]

it might be me if its a barb :)) but not gonna lie i was there in HR to make some money to make a build for maybe arena if ironmace decides in 124231 years to add it and give a meaning to end-game gear to not lose it and just have fun with it

[stiff quail]

A PVE map id play that grouping with randoms to kill a hydra or something sounds fire

[thorn nimbus]

You realise that arena will be on tts ? @empty latch

[abstract steppe]

Does magic penetration affect the amount of damage dealt to bosses with magic damage reduction?

[empty latch]

wise man explain yourself what's tts?

[charred cave]

how do i do to complete de lies in the coffins mission?

[thorn nimbus]

Test server
Not only will they wipe ur acc before they add arena but also it will first be only for hold the line users on the test servers soo grinding gold for it is absolutely pointless

[thorn nimbus]

Whose quest is that

[charred cave]

treasurer lies in the coffins

[loud apex]

its the only viable strat now lolol

[thorn nimbus]

...you just go to the pyramid and escape thats it

[junior spruce]

go on the castle map and hope you spawn witht the one with pyramid and go and escape

[empty latch]

it might be wipe before arena that's why i said it gonna take 124 y, but i still wanna make an op build before wipe.. cuz it seems pointless to bring 80k build into HR or normals when you get downed by a guy in 2-3 hits or god knows what teamers , or just bad luck you lose it, in return your loot worth max 15k

[junior spruce]

hold the line has test servers i didnt know that i should of bought it back then

[thorn nimbus]

I dont think you understand what im saying
Your grinding wont do anything because

1. Arena will be after the wipe
2. It will be on a different server where you dont have your gold anyway

[empty latch]

well if i payed for the game, do i have acces to that server?

[thorn nimbus]

Did you buy it a long time ago or just now when it released on steam ?
(You will have to start from 0 even if you have access to that server anyway)

[proper zinc]

decided to just drop by and whine about how useless the Creep passive became and how there are no further gs brackets past 125 as if someone in full greens should square off against 450+ gs beasts

[empty latch]

i think im okay starting from 0 but yeah i buyed like 2 weeks before the release on steam

[thorn nimbus]

Better question why are you trying to play +125 brackets are you a streamer or smthing ?

[proper zinc]

better loot

[empty latch]

its not..quite , best loot its in HR not normals even above 125 gs, and if you really want good loot only bosses like inferno from forgotten castle or wyvern from howlin cave are worth a whole lot

[proper zinc]

well not that I don't own it but hr requires legendary status, also I'm not comfortable with all pve being nightmare variants just yet

[south halo]

any1 having trouble getting into games rn?

[empty latch]

so below 25 gs as above 125 gs the loot its the same

[proper zinc]

that I don't believe, I haven't played a lot but I've played enough to realize the difference, whereas in less than 125 I'd get blues maybe the occasional purple artifact in 125+ blue and purples are the norm with the avg of 300 luck / run

I'm nearly certain there's a buff to the loot table ratios, roughly 300 levels in this wipe

even so in my opinion the game could benefit from another bracket between 125 and 325

[shut kite]

not for me- is it the game being broken/bad internet or is it lack of players online?

[stiff quail]

i would always get a stutter before a fight on east coast but i started playing west and 0 stutter

[desert orchid]

what class needs lots of campfires?

[south halo]

when queing just randomly go back to main menu and ask to reconnect to match, got in when trying to reconnect tho

[proper zinc]

campfires do refill fighter's second wind so there's that

[clear jasper]

Double spell wizard

[shut kite]

seems like an internet connection issue- check your bandwidth and downloads, if your bandwidth is fine and no downloads are running it must be the server that is lagging. I have had quite a few issues with the games lagging only in matches but not in the waiting room or lobby

[coarse void]

came here to ask this. I keep having some weird connection issues and it kicks me out of the game

[shut kite]

I wish there was a way to cheer on people you are spectating after a match, I can see why being able to talk to them directly would be kind of cheating but still

[deft lintel]

You can though? If they have whispers on, you can whisper them directly

[timid mortar]

While spectating?

[deft lintel]

Just try it. Keep in mind that whispers aren’t on by default though. People get flamed by the people they kill all the time

[shut kite]

you can do that in match? will they even see it?

[manic haven]

is there a good route to get to cyclops? I keep aggroing the skeleton champion

[deft lintel]

Top floor of that room, go to the top left or north west, with the spiders. Then walk down

[turbid pine]

try going from the overground instead
(the underground doesn't always have a skeleton champion in that spawn--sometimes it's a skele mage)

[clear jasper]

There are 2 drop downs, you need to go around to the other drop down on the other side of the room

[shut kite]

wait... couldn't you unintentionally cheat by being able to whisper/message people in match with the locations of other players though? that was my whole point

[manic haven]

Thanks!

[thin bear]

Hey, someone else already asked this, but.. what will happen if Ironmace loses the legal battle with Nexon? Will they be forced to abandon the game and shut down, or will this be simular to the case of Studio Wildcard and Ark, where they have to pay a fine and can continue to develop the game?

[deft lintel]

In normals, sure. A bit more difficult in high roller since you only have one minute to spectate. But I have never seen this been a issue

@thin bear nobody knows, and it’s not worth worrying about either. From what I’ve seen, it might be the developers that take a punishment, and not necessarily the game itself. Impossible to say though.

[shut kite]

I guess so huh, but then again you see people teaming up all the time in solos and duos and making it kind of unfair for other players all the time so I guess its just not a care for Ironmace

[noble zodiac]

Didn't they already win the lawsuit

[shut kite]

I just kind of liked the idea of a little pop up in the corner saying "You have a spectator cheering you on!" or something

[turbid pine]

In America, yeah
its still ongoing in Korea

[noble zodiac]

They will come to the same conclusion

[viscid gust]

Anyone ever heard of this issue and if they did do you know a fix for it. I have to relog in everytime I reset blacksmith, the stay logged in button is just not working no matter what I do

[zenith copper]

The game will be shutdown and nexon will mail you a pipe bomb.

[glossy scarab]

how the fuck does char sort work
this page 2 shit is killing me

[viscid gust]

The pages are seperate for sorting so if you made a character and it was on page 2 it will forever be on page 2, outside of that the top character is the one you were last on in order of logging in

[glossy scarab]

right but like, im trying to strategically delete and make characters to get my main ones on front page, but my wizard always ends up on page 2 i dont get it

[viscid gust]

That I dont know, never tried to delete characters to reorder

[fossil bear]

What would be the best way to finish the first weaponsmith quest for 5 rare weapons

[reef skiff]

How is physical power different from weapon damage

[clear jasper]

Play hr you will find it all in one match. If no HR ice caves in pyramid spawns a blue weapon at the top

[fossil bear]

What level do you have to be for HR

[long sandal]

Im trying to do the goblin merchant questline as rouge, but i cant figure out what would allow me to break 15 small wooden crates, daggers arent strong enough for that are they?

[clear jasper]

20 also keep in mind it’s an 100 gold entrance fee and the mods will be much more difficult

[opal fox]

whats better for ap, high tier gear or high tier treasure?

[clear jasper]

Treasure usually but legendary gear is worth grabbing for ap

[opal fox]

is there any numbers, or like a page on the wiki?

[clear jasper]

Not sure, wiki usually does but may not be updated for the wipe. I would just watch and In depth video on YouTube about it

[opal fox]

k ty

[shadow hazel]

the balancing in this game is sad asf lol

[reef lantern]

warlock really needs to be toned down on the infinite casting and infinite healing. it's impossible to play against if they keep distance. you lose every time, phantomize get out of jail free with low cd/same cd as most other classes catch-up abilities,,,,

[clear jasper]

It’s not as bad as you think when you learn to play against it. In the recent QNA they talked about adding new ways to different classes to our play or to get a different healing aspect like warlock

[reef lantern]

not sure how to learn to play against inifinite healing/casting when my spells all have charges, once i run out it's gg cause they don't need to stop and reset

[clear jasper]

As a wizard it can def be hard due to this. This wipes meta and very range and speed reliant. If you hit 2 fireballs and 2 zaps I’d imagine they’d die. I used to main wizard but not sure how he compares this wipe

[long zodiac]

Not if they're healing off of other monsters. It does seem to be a broken class imo. 2 warlocks in duos? yeah forget about it.

[clear jasper]

As wizard ig I would clear space in my starting room so I can back up where no mobs are available to heal off, but that is why they have talked about this in the recent QNA to create something for other classes to put play a warlock

[clear jasper]

If you need wizard tips tho go watch CNGblade on YouTube. He has good in depth guide on how to play wizard

[reef lantern]

not a wizard, but it's wild that the way you play against a class is to clear your starting room and hope they fight you there lol

[long zodiac]

I play my wizard just fine, but I also do not main wizard...I think you mean well but what I'm really trying to say is it seems to be an unbalanced class.

[clear jasper]

It’s like this for every class tho, every class is strong against something and weak. Locks get destroyed by any range. A windless fighter will one tap you in the head. Especially if they are trying to heal.

It’s kinda like running at a ranger without dodging and complaining about how ranger is op. But there are just some things in this game you have to do. Decision making is everything. Choosing to take a fight or realizing your out classed

I don’t disagree, I personally think phantom speed should be increased but you only get 2. And you must use a camp to get one back

[coarse void]

if theres a wipe, then there's no point in trying to level up multiple characters?

[clear jasper]

Depends if you care about fame. But mostly no. If you are new to the game, I would suggest playing the the characters so you have a main picked out for next wipe

[uneven cradle]

AoE works on phantom, throw a bottle.

[shut kite]

is it worth taking instruments for the extra stats or do they only apply when in your hands in game?

[tulip snow]

only apply when in hand

[uneven cradle]

They have low MR during phantom, cast a spell, make sure they’re poisoned, chase them and learn the timing to pre attack..

So many options

[shut kite]

thanks!

does proximity chat need to be on in order to hear other players using voip in game? or have I just never ran into a person using it before?

[wintry peak]

Yes

[clear jasper]

Yes, default push to talk is B. Period or comma turns on voip and the other makes it party only or everyone

[grim hull]

You either encounter a total noob or a dude thats been playing since day -1

[left fulcrum]

Anyone know if Gold/Silver coins award AP or not?

[void raft]

is there any fast method to farm bluestones/triumph level?

[opal saddle]

Seems to me as a fighter mostly you have to kill them quickly or die trying.

[cosmic drum]

how much lead is in the meth the devs balancing are smoking? why and how do you nerf the only thing that makes rouge playable but act like cleric and warlock make any sense in the game design??

[opal saddle]

@void raft just keep playing the game and you will get them the more you escape the more exp you will get.

[void raft]

appreciate it

[zealous chasm]

Your concern is days old, move on buddy, the future awaits you.

[runic plank]

Agreed hopefully there a fighter nerf soon my games are just fighters with some dumb builds

[uneven cradle]

Rogue nerf was a knee jerk reactionary change to loud whiners, it’s going to be changed properly in a week.

Which more than likely means invisibility reverting to non silhouette, creep sound range adjustment maybe and some other stuff.

[gentle axle]

can we talk about Phantomize? Its like a get out of jail for free card

[clear jasper]

Lots of things can hurt you in phantom

[uneven cradle]

It’s not, it has weaknesses, it’s vulnerable to AoE, weak to magic damage and had a consistent timer that is easily learned to punish when they come out of phantom

[barren oxide]

[uneven cradle]

Throw a Molotov if they phantomise when low, ez.

[gentle axle]

Its not exactly a weakness when he just pulls the entire frost cave on you and then just dips

[barren oxide]

Warlock being low hp

[vapid rampart]

i think the devs should nerf or rework the parry and riposte system. very little effort with maximum punishment. all it takes is one miss click and you basically die. the double riposte is also broken, its too forgiving for something that does so much damage. you miss it you still have a chance to hit.

[uneven cradle]

You’re having issues other than phantomise if he’s able to pull that many mobs on you

People need to start thinking of solutions beyond hitting them with a stat stick, would solve half the complaints regarding balance lmao

[barren oxide]

Just hit his legs , when he is blocking he is not doing anything, free dmg

[opal saddle]

You should try playing longsword @vapid rampart

[zealous chasm]

?!?!?! If you think I am going into Goblin Caves WITHOUT COFFEE - Yer Nuttier than a Snickers!

[opal saddle]

I have personally died mid repost longsword is a gamble

[balmy marlin]

there are so many audio bugs and i think ghost king is bugged as well? doesnt seem to do extra damage on chill stacks, randomly stops chasing, doesnt teleport to middle when doing the jump, etc

[zealous chasm]

How did he dip? Where did he go? He doesn't have invis.

[opal saddle]

@balmy marlin I agree he will also teleport in mele range

[chrome fog]

bros surprised the used napkin that hasnt been updated for a year is buggy

[balmy marlin]

It wasnt bugged before the rogue patch

[vapid rampart]

yeah i have, its not that hard once you realize you can aim the sword like a shield. pve also becomes a joke.
@barren oxide if it were that easy it wouldnt be an issue, you can aim the sword its not that hard.

the issue is double riposte is broken, but it seems like you think im just complaining, for the damage it does it and for how easy it is to achieve, it doesnt make a lot of sense. wathcing it is very boring, bosses become trivial once you learn. just look at sparky on twitch lmao

[chrome fog]

ghost has been a buggy mess since the beginning and updating the bosses has never been a priority for IM. i wish it were different, ghost is clearly a placeholder model

[opal saddle]

@vapid rampart guess you are better then me. Yeah but if you ask sparky about longsword he will tell you it is not the best weapon.

[warm locust]

does true magic damage scale with din of darkness?

[vapid rampart]

never said it was the best weapon, im saying that the double riposte is broken af. for the damage it can do its ridiculous for how easy it is to do.

[opal saddle]

So one shot at repose and make it harder to get the repost off?

[sonic schooner]

did anyone unlock the new campfire?

[elder osprey]

how can i help my friend get unbanned from the dark and darker discord

[limber verge]

I'm a toxic person and haven't gotten banned... Maybe your friend should stay banned.

[storm stratus]

Everytime I get to blue rank on high roller I suddenly get spawned next to geared players and I get deleted every match, literally levelled 3 chars to blue rank and the moment i reach that its as if there's a matchmaking system that puts sweat-nerds with me. I can literally farm grey to blue rank with 0 deaths, It feels like there's a hidden matchmaking system. That or the awful AP decay is giving me delusions.

[shut kite]

the waiting room tavern needs more tables and stuff so the floor is lava will be more fun and interesting

[storm stratus]

Everytime I try to farm high roller I eventually get tilted, I can't imagine a casual player's experience with it. I hope it's on their radar to balance

[shut kite]

I imagine casual players probably quit the game out of frustration long before they get to high roller

[dawn steppe]

how much is gold chest worth

[barren oxide]

Longsword is as good as bad the enemies are , play longsword first then say how easy it is

[frozen umbra]

fix rubber band 😦

[naive granite]

Whats the official site for the game?

[whole terrace]

Can they please rework druid

[chrome fog]

calling for a rework on the whole class a couple months after its out is crazy

[loud perch]

#NerfFighter?

[warm ginkgo]

I got arabic translation for game, always I hit they guy it says allahu akbar

[vapid rampart]

Yeah i have played longsword, its not that hard to master. Once you understand that you can aim the blade, or that as long as something hits the hilt you will be able to reposte, it makes it much easier

[drowsy iris]

Why do legendary magic staves cost almost as much as spellbooks, but epic staves are much cheaper than epic spellbooks?

[solid rune]

when is next wipe

[grim hull]

Whats the point of inferno? KIll the boss in the middle room then loot the gold pile behind the double door?

[whole terrace]

I don't think the release date matters. Druid is complete ass to have on your team, and completely unbalanceable in solos

[drowsy iris]

I imagine the Inferno makes more sense in a trio, where it's not as easy to fill up on loot. You can get rubysilver there, though.

[minor yacht]

make Frost Wyvern way harder for Warlock:

atm. you just see warlocks doing frost Wyvern basically for free

[grim hull]

With how the boss was fighting if youre not cheesing it, you're probs gonna die. Still impressed that one warlock managed to solo it and get a few purple and orange items, the dude inspired me to try for inferno

[spare star]

is there still anyway to get the GCXEvent torch or has that boat sailed?

[jolly cloud]

is the leathersmith quest frost covered funds broken atm ive tried to complete 5 times and its not going through?

[frozen umbra]

It takes time and skill to learn it, it's not like troll's a problem because it's easy
Plus they nerfed the loot you get from it since unique, non-named, gear is attainable now

[chrome fog]

so literally rogue or warlock? druid needs a buff but what youre describing is not druid-specific at all

[cyan wing]

hsa the game been buggy for anyone recntlty?

[turbid pine]

artifacts
norms bosses are just for quests tbh

[whole terrace]

yes it is HJAHJHAHAHH

[wanton ore]

Any druids having weird issues with getting hit in rat form from miles away? feels like my hitbox is massive

[rare oracle]

So go do it on warlock. What’s the problem

[whole terrace]

People want to play other things, genius,

[rare oracle]

Your snarky personal attack aside, How does nerfing warlocks ability to boss, improve your ability to do it on another character. Plenty of people farm troll and wyvrn with warlock who don’t main warlock. I don’t see the problem.

[frozen umbra]

you can play other things then farm with warlock
FINISH MY MAC & CHEESE CHALLENGE

[whole terrace]

The rewards for bosses are inflated in the market due to how piss easy it is to do on warlock.

[frozen umbra]

If they wanted to fix this they'd need to take an eldenring approach and seperate damage between PVE and PVP

[rare oracle]

I think you mean deflated, but point taken. So you are upset that items don’t cost as much as you would like them to?

[frozen umbra]

viola still is expensive as ever and legendaries were gonna take a nose dive anyways with the amount of players in the game (since the addition of the game to steam)

[minor yacht]

I did it on warlock, its way easier than doing cave troll for example. Just stupid, that you can farm artifacts this way for free. @glad thunder

[frozen umbra]

imagine lying

[whole terrace]

I don't like that there is one class that is overwhelmingly better at doing bosses than every other class. I also don't like that the accomplishment of doing it on a far more difficult class, i.e. any other class is not rewarded as well as it should be, because it is trivial on warlock.

[bronze compass]

Are you implying it's not a big deal that one class tanking the economy for the rest isn't a big deal? Because it is a real problem.

[rare oracle]

Wyvrn is easier than cave troll?

[chrome flame]

no,

[minor yacht]

with warlock yes

[lean rover]

Dark and Darker mobile looks sick with those character animations, we should get them here as well ❤️

[frozen umbra]

i agree

[lean rover]

They also seem to have some sort of character customization, I've seen some different hairstyles and physics

[minor yacht]

99% of doing the Wyverns are warlocks, the reason is clearly, way to ez on that class. Please change my mind.

[jolly cloud]

IS THE LEATHERSMITH QUEST FROST COVERED FUNDS BROKE IVE DONE IT SIX TIMES AND ITS NOT COMPLETEING

[vast junco]

is the class and they will never not make it so

[gritty vine]

how did IM manage to make a worse looking game compared to Mordhau... while using UE5

[drowsy iris]

Is the class.

[turbid pine]

some questions about chests

1. For chest spawns that are either Golden or Lions, will the Lions always spawn locked?
2. In the same vein, are guaranteed Lion spawns always unlocked?
3. Do locked Lions have better loot pools than non-locked Lions?

[vast junco]

is is

[civic kayak]

where are golden keys used

[rotund pawn]

Why does it matter? Also if it’s so easy go and do it too? Idk what’s to complain about

[frozen umbra]

that'd be cool, the base characters are kinda ugly

[minor yacht]

I do it, the point is, it is free on warlock, and def should not be this way.

[outer jay]

Does throwing knife benefit from dagger mastery or any other rogue perks?

[frozen umbra]

all pve is easy when you know how to do it

[rotund pawn]

I fail to see a reason why tho just because they are good at bossing why’s it matter? Other classes are good at things as well

[minor yacht]

have you done frost wyvern on other class too? If yes, send proof

[frozen umbra]

bard, fighter and warlock
I did it on fighter with another fighter tho

[outer jay]

Does throwing knife benefit from dagger mastery or any other rogue perks?

[minor yacht]

send proof, if you cant send, noone believes you.

[frozen umbra]

want me to go back in time and record it?

[rotund pawn]

There are clips all over YouTube of other classes doing it so it’s possible just gotta practice

[frozen umbra]

^

[minor yacht]

I did it on other class too. the thing is, its just way way way harder. And on Warlock you just run circles and cast hellfires

[slow girder]

where can i find wendigos? i am in the ice abyss but i cant find them

[frozen umbra]

It was equally hard for me, although I did a duo on fighter and I don't play much warlock.

[rotund pawn]

Ok and? I don’t see the issue just because it’s harder on another class you want to make it harder for warlock? That is the argument of a child like I’m sorry every class isn’t the exact same and life isn’t fair

[minor yacht]

it is fucking free on warlock, every newbie in the game can do it. that not how it should be on the "hardest boss" in the game.

[frozen umbra]

It isn't free, you've either never fought it before or you're a master at warlock who has never known defeat.

[bronze compass]

This is such a dumb take... like really ignorant. Imagine if there were a class that auto one-shot every mob in the game. You think that would make for a fair, enjoyable gaming experience for every other class? No. The reasons are obvious. The warlock problem is the same, just on a smaller scale.

[frozen umbra]

Warlock isn't an auto one shot, stop comparing warlocks to imaginary classes.

[bronze compass]

Apparently "smaller scale" is something your reading comprehension can't handle.

[rotund pawn]

That’s way over board lmao of course that’s broken but warlock being better at bosses is really not a big deal if you’re that jealous just sit outside the arena and hit the warlock with 4 arrows after the fight and get the loot like what

[frozen umbra]

If it's to a smaller scale then it isn't an issue, it still takes skill and knowledge of the boss. Stop being toxic ⛹️

[rare oracle]

I fail to understand how warlock being good at pve causes other classes to have a worse experience. If you nerf warlocks bossing ability, it doesn’t improve other classes. Like does your group farm wyvrn and you want to gatekeep the ore market. I don’t understand dying on this hill.

[rotund pawn]

And it’s free once you learn it on a longsword fighter and can kill it quicker than any warlock In the game I guess we should remove the longsword since it’s so good at bossing

[bronze compass]

If it's a problem it's a problem, regardless of scale. That's the whole point you can't seem to grasp.

[frozen umbra]

Ok then everything in this game is a problem: every class, every mob, everything has atleast one very small problem yet we don't care because it's MINISCULE.

[stuck sage]

A class can do something better than other classes wah wah wah remove all classes make everyone fighter wah wah wah

[rotund pawn]

“This class is better at doing a boss than me so it’s a problem” that doesn’t make it a problem that makes it a skill issue

[bronze compass]

A group of kids that can't PvE without playing warlock claiming "skill issue"... the irony.

[frozen umbra]

Strawmanning = giving up,
I main bard ❤️

[rotund pawn]

I main fighter dawg

[bronze compass]

Tanking the economy is bad. Drastic class imbalances are bad. Not understanding that is moronic.

[frozen umbra]

Damn, these 30 gold violas are really crazy. Too bad they don't exist

[rotund pawn]

The economy is hyper inflated it actually helps the economy by bringing prices down and not limiting the crazy gear to the ultra rich

[bronze compass]

Strawmanning = giving up

[stuck sage]

Only bad for people who hoard loot lmao adding more loot is helpful for majority of players

[frozen umbra]

Strawman is creating an imaginary issue and claim that the other person is making that argument,
I'm just taking what you said and adding a level of irony.
Know the difference

[rare oracle]

Is miss representing the definition of a logical fallacy, a logical fallacy?

[bronze compass]

The price of one item isn't "the economy" so yeah, it's a strawman. I don't understand why you wouldn't want a challenging, end-game boss to be challenging. And it should be approximately equally difficult for all classes, that's common sense. Wanting to hold onto an obviously OP design of a class just reeks of childish entitlement and ignorance.

[frozen umbra]

I'm taking one item that's in the economy and using it as an example, dumb.

[rare oracle]

Asserting your claim is common sense when it is not agreed upon as such, is a logical fallacy.

[bronze compass]

That called anecdotal evidence, add it to the list of logical fallacies you use.

[frozen umbra]

Hypothetically, if you claim the american economy has fallen I can claim that the fact that USD isn't changed as a point.

[stuck sage]

You literally want an impossible lmao every class be equal in all ways.

[rotund pawn]

“He’s better at doing bosses than I am nerf him please it’s not fair I have to practice a boss” cry about it and do it on other classes instead of warlock if you want that challenge

[bronze compass]

"Approximately equal in difficultly" is a phrase your reading comphrension can't handle, apparently.

The U.S. economy has been through significant inflation the last few years. If someone were to argue against that, saying "Arizona Iced Teas are still only 99c", that would be anecdotal evidence, and they would be an idiot.

[abstract cobalt]

Does anyone else rubber band a lot?

[drowsy iris]

I just killed the cyclops for my buddy's quest, but he didn't receive credit. Is it because he was dead?

[rotund pawn]

Fighter kills wyvern faster than warlock so we gotta nerf fighter as well because that’s a class that’s better at bosses too Longsword kills bosses to fast makes them too easy please nerf longsword way to strong

[turbid pine]

Being alive is necessary for credit, yeah

[bronze compass]

Strawman = giving up

[rotund pawn]

That’s not a straw man fighter actually kills the wyvern faster that is a factual statement it is not a straw man

[stuck sage]

You want to take away the strength of warlock in one part of the game when it's probably one of the weakest trio classes. Every class is supposed to have strengths and weaknesses so let's just remove all classes to satisfy you.

[bronze compass]

Strawman = giving up

[frozen umbra]

He probably just realizes he's wrong and is just calling everything a strawman to troll.

[old bluff]

I see so many copperlight barb in the <125 gs, weird

[bronze compass]

Let's hear your list of reasons why it's actually good for the game to have one class be significantly more capable than the rest...

[frozen umbra]

it's cuz copperlite is green which is low on gs and barbs don't need much armor to do well

[old bluff]

I understand that, i only see barbs doind that tho

[frozen umbra]

Rich players going into lower lobbies to wipe.
Fighters who do it will jsut be forced into >125

[stuck sage]

Meta changes class diversity non stale game a reason to play different classes

[ripe quartz]

Are all extracts one time use

[old bluff]

Oh yeah they definitly are here to kill lowbies

[frozen umbra]

Boats respawn and some elevators

[bronze compass]

Those are all reasons for having different capabilities, e.g. melee vs ranged, but don't support having one class that is generally superior to the rest, because that would only encourage a one-class meta. Any actually reasons?

[rare oracle]

Superior at pve** aka not a balance issue. Who cares.

[frozen umbra]

Warlocks aren't more capable,
if we were talking about capability a bard with a load of arrows is way better then a warlock.
No risk to health, equally high damage and fast.

[stuck sage]

You can so the boss on other classes obviously some will be better than others every wipe there are classes that are turbo broken in pvp no one cares about how easy pve is it's not like the boss is impossible on other classes also it's one aspect of the game how would you even balance it our without gutting warlock bosses already have high mdr increasing it anymore would kill wizard even more

[bronze compass]

So now you're changing your argument completely, you're no longer trying to justify a class being more capable, you're just claiming it isn't in fact more capable. Weird 180, but okay...

And to say no one cares about PvE when it's half the game is quite short-sighted, and frankly too stupid to argue with. Unless you want to run around an empty map and get all your loot out of chests, PvE is quite necessary, and thus, important.

[frozen umbra]

I'm not changing my argument, I'm just claiming that bard is more capable since you mentioned capability. I never said warlock was more capable.
Also I really don't care about this argument anymore, I looked at your past messages and realize you're literally just on this discord to argue so I'm just assuming no matter what I say you won't change your opinion. tldr you're a contrarian.

[stuck sage]

Pve is only necessary to slow down pvp and bosses for loot. People dont even loot mob loot in hr because it's so ass. That's why they releasing arena as well people just want to pvp

[empty sun]

let's keep it civil here please

no need for that

[rare oracle]

Where were you the last 10 minutes of his ad hominem attacks?

[empty sun]

watching the other channels, again move on from it please we cannot be in every channel at all times

[frozen umbra]

Can we all just agree to disagree, I don't wanna get banbanned.

[empty sun]

Would be for the best, things can be discussed without having to insult others simply because you disagree with them, or ignore them if you genuinely think they are trolling or being difficult, goes for everyone ofcourse not aimed at you

[loud perch]

#NerfFighter

[frozen umbra]

Anyways, anyone know if there's a fix to rubberbanding. I literally can't run from mobs without getting dragged back and hit.
I have low ping+, so it shouldn't be my fault.

[loud perch]

🙏 please if someone has a fix to this bossing is almost impossible bc of it

[frozen umbra]

Me and my friend struggle with this but when I watch youtube videos I don't see streamers n' stuff rubberbanding so I'm assuming there's a fix.

[rich talon]

Do any merchants sell explosive bottles?

[stuck sage]

Anyone who's at the point where you are doing hr ice wyvern only cares about pvp ig you ain't one of these people so idk why you complaing about wyvern

[bronze compass]

Again, really weird take to think your opinion applies to an entire playerbase. Crazy hubris.

[frozen umbra]

Guys mr mod literally just said to stop the argument

[dim cloud]

Does the game queue actions now? It feels like they've done something awkward with one of the later patches, might just be me. But feels like they tried to fix druid shapeshifting and now it queues other actions, like sitting down or to continue attacking

[frozen umbra]

yes hellfire is

[simple topaz]

Is Hellfire's scaling bugged? i've tried to be at a lot of different breakpoints for magic damage/truemagic damage add & different rarity books but nothing seems to increase the damage on the dummy from 13-X

[zealous chasm]

?? Which class should be wearing Heavy Leather Leggings please?

[frozen umbra]

none ngl
MAYBE frontline slayers or bards

[zealous chasm]

Hmmm, okay. There are a lot of them for sale, though prices are meh, I couldn't figure out which class would wear it.

[alpine tapir]

When is the rogue hitbox going to be fixed, just had a game where my weapon went through his arm like 4 times

[neon mica]

You guys are joking with the barbarian right? Like you can't possibly think that is acceptable

[frozen umbra]

Achillies should only be for melee imo
The upside of barb is his insane melee dps, the fact he has a ranged option in any sense it nuts.

[alpine tapir]

considering the current meta is to build for movespeed, that it totally fair as a way to combat it

[frozen umbra]

Barbs already have rage and can build for MS anyways, they don't need achillies for frannies (they do need it in general)

[alpine tapir]

Cool, so rogue cant apply effects with handcrossbow either then? Not to mention that their hitbox is smaller than their model, but thats another problem

[high fern]

rogue can poison with throwing knives, melee, and yes hand crossbows''

[frozen umbra]

Rogue isn't decreasing your move speed by 40%. (Did not know that hitbox fact tho, that's why rogues feel like shit to fight)
I personally don't think cut throat should be in the game (as it's a direct counter to spell casters) but light orb is also a direct counter to rogues so idk anymore.

Honestly they really should remove direct counters from this game (as in, x only effects y class)

[alpine tapir]

yknow what I think, let clerics judgement work even if the target walks out of range. 5m is nothing

[rugged dagger]

anyone elses game crashing on repeat?

[high fern]

bro clerics just walk at people and win.... you really want a buff ?

[alpine tapir]

maybe walk away

[timid mortar]

I agree. Buff clerics and warlocks.

[high fern]

maybe dont miss your abilities ? and judgement will be no issue... see 2 can play that dumb game

[alpine tapir]

lol its not about missing, it cancels if they go outside of 5m

[high fern]

ok "just walk at them"

[alpine tapir]

its a channel, lol. If you dont understand this, maybe its better to not speak on it.

[timid mortar]

that is you missing doe

[high fern]

exactly

[alpine tapir]

it doesnt have a miss condition. it just doesnt do anything if you miss lol

[high fern]

what? you contradict yourself

[stuck sage]

It does you just ain't part of that playerbase

[alpine tapir]

You obviously have no idea how it works. Good talk.

[loud perch]

#FixYourServers

[timid mortar]

I mean.. its no different than someone walking out of your holy strike except you gotta run in the opposite direction of the caster to have it fail so its still pretty darn good.. but I know nothing, maybe clerics do need a buff.. I do see alot fewer of them after the nerfs.

[high fern]

no i do. you just look funny rn. it doesnt have a miss con but if i miss it does nothing...... same for every spell. i understand you just want to be right so your right gj

[alpine tapir]

its not a spell

[loud perch]

this a joke right?

[timid mortar]

Ofcourse.

[high fern]

see your nitpicking now, im sorry, when you push a button and it does a ability/spell/curse/buff/debuff. its the same as a spell

[alpine tapir]

so smite can miss too? lol its been fun bud

[high fern]

are you really gonna compare two diff abilities rn ? you suck with judgement get good. thats my answer

[timid mortar]

Someone disagrees with your opinion .. it do be like dat sometimes

[fair turret]

how often are the wipes?

[high fern]

idk but im ready

[rapid vapor]

2-3 months usually. Next one will be early September

[verbal pulsar]

Tell me you don't play cleric without telling me you don't play cleric 🤣

[high fern]

io honestly dont care what you think i play, yes i have cleric yes people sometimes escape judgement but that doesnt mean it needs a buff

[timid mortar]

Last two wipes were on 15 March and 7 June

[cloud bridge]

tell me you don't know how to play cleric without telling me, I can 1v1 barbs as cleric with smite and bubble

[verbal pulsar]

Every class can 1v1 any class if they get the right situation. The Barb messed up.

[cloud bridge]

lack of skill doesn't factor into whether or not something needs buffed

[hazy violet]

Quick question: for the rewards earned for reaching a high rank in HR, are those rewards account wide or only for the class that reached that rank?

[zealous chasm]

When you start arguing with strangers on the internet, you know you should lay off the weed, go touch some nature, and feel the sun. ie, Get off the computer.

[rapid vapor]

Okay. Devs said in the qna wipe will likely be early September

[verbal pulsar]

When your argument is based on the fact you beat someone in a 1v1 then yes skill does come into play

[pseudo zinc]

is there a postgame replay because I may have just encountered one of the worst cases of a ragehack, 4 longsword hits on a naked barb with at least 3 direct fireballs and a full set of zaps. Not dead.

[timid mortar]

Shouldve also written "so youre absolutely right, Sir" .. it was just info for the other guy to backup your claim tbh

[cloud bridge]

I haven't smoked in a week, literally JUST got back from a walk, and popped in here to see the state of the game before I booted up. Great argument though since no one was talking to you and you decided to be wrong anyways

[rapid vapor]

After you die there's a death cam button where you can watch from their perspective what happened

[worn slate]

Please start banning people for regular teaming in solos. No fighting is fine, but ganging up on someone is so pathetic

[verbal pulsar]

Discussion on the Internet is fun though

[pseudo zinc]

is it post match or is it immediate

[verbal pulsar]

Judgement does not need a buff. I was just making fun of the way that guy described the cleric experience lol

[verbal pulsar]

You have to enable death cam in the settings. It's not on by default

[visual parrot]

Can you add the circle back?

[sterile kestrel]

Is my armor pen 25% total for both my weapons if i were to use war hammer with stiletto?

[cloud bridge]

Glad we agree, aoe spells that are basically designed to use in a team fight are hard to balance for team and solo play but direct damage buffs are typically a bad way to go about making something better because it can easily add unintended power when used in high tier play with the right gear

[cloud bridge]

I believe weapons with static armor pen only apply to that weapon regardless whether they are dual wielded or not, so stilleto would get 10 and hammer gets 15

[keen void]

is IM looking for people to work on AI?

[verbal pulsar]

Ya I agree there too. Very very hard to balance all the modes. This is why I'm a fan of separate balance.

[sterile kestrel]

Thx

[wraith robin]

It will alays be like that unless they remove VOIP but they dont for some reaosn so lobby get toxic all the time

[foggy steeple]

Hey guys! I have revisited the game after not playing for some months (I have not played since it was fully released)

Has the method of escaping the maps changed everywhere? for example I was in the goblin caves and I did not find any portals

[verbal pulsar]

Look for the blue on the map. Stairs and portals. There's plenty of em

[turbid pine]

this vid will help explain it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld9taLTDRxU
(if you don't trust the link just look up
"How to Extract and Descend (New Wipe 4 mechanics) | Dark and Darker" by Ryan6DaysAWeek on Youtube)

[zealous chasm]

Yes!
Check the dark and darker wiki for the maps, they can be customized to show you all the exits, the icon shows which kind.

[foggy steeple]

Thanks all 😄

[rapid vapor]

Immediate, before you return to lobby there should be a red button that says death cam

[tacit mist]

On a scale of 1-10 how much do u guys get angry if a rouge camped u as u we’re leaving the boss room? (I may or may not do this as a hobby)

[cloud bridge]

did they remove the q-and-a chat or am I just blind? edit: just kidding found it in the archive tab edit2: yeah it's gone RIP

[pseudo zinc]

theres this dude named JaxeMcgee just lobby wiping with a zwei in 1v3s tryna figure out if hes legit or not

[wheat ferry]

Idk why but Ice skele halbard dudes are my kryptonite

[cloud bridge]

which class?

[fossil pollen]

you need to finish quests in order to unlock more options for the squire, also your class needs to be able to use spears too

[raven bough]

oh so quests can give more than just exp or resources? good to know

[fossil pollen]

gaining favor with the traders unlocks you to be able to also buy base gear of higher stats like greens and blues, also crafting

[cloud bridge]

dutchw4nk answered the question, you upgrade the squire by completing missions for the other merchants which will unlock more gear and higher grade gear (poor->common)

[loud perch]

can someone please tell me how to fix the fucking rubber banding dude

[raven bough]

got it thanks

[fossil pollen]

it also allows you to be able to craft... more special items too :)

[wheat ferry]

Everything that kills me is OP. Nerf plz

[twin stream]

I told this fighter in the pregame lobby I was gonna try cyclops and he helped me take the boss out in the raid. Is this preteaming since it was in the pregame lobby or is it fine? We didn't come across other players but I assume we would've both fought another player together if someone was hostile.

[fossil pollen]

as said before many times by our lovely sdf,

Preteaming is punished if intentionally before game you team up to kill players.

If you happen to meet a rando in game and just decide to take care of someone who's destroying the lobby they won't look at it so quickly. or clearing npcs for that matter.. you name it.

its only when you before the game team up with people to pvp

[turbid pine]

"pre" means agreeing to team before even queuing up
you didn't communicate before matchmaking put you together, so you're good
it doesn't matter if it was in lobby or when the match acutally started--it's still organic teaming

[pearl urchin]

and here i thought they were done nerfing rogue.... game stays uninstalled for a while longer i guess. lol

[worn magnet]

PLEASE make the fucking rock fall on cyclops less RNG or AT LEAST make it to where you dont get hit by two rocks at once for no reason

[wheat ferry]

Is it rng? My understanding was if you time your jump you just won't get hit

[fossil pollen]

its not rng :x

[worn magnet]

Yes, you jump and wont get hit by the shockwave, but even if you jump on time you still get hit from the random rocks that fall from the ceiling, and two can spawn in the same spot and it looks like you got hit by one rock but you take the damage of two rocks

[sonic schooner]

did anyone unlock the new campfire?

[wheat ferry]

I could be mistaken but my understanding is that the slam doesn't do anything, you jump 1/.5/etc after the slam to avoid the rock fall damage

[fossil pollen]

the doublehanded slam is 1second after jump, the in between hits are 0.5 jump

[worn magnet]

Yes. the slam doesnt do the whole map damage. you jump bc once the rocks hit the ground it does a shockwave to the whole floor. but you can still get hit by the rocks while theyre falling to the ground

it's a dps check for that reason, the jumping part isn't what i'm complaining about. it's not a problem. it's the rocks faling from the ceiling that can hit you for double damage that's my issue

[fossil pollen]

thats part of it being a dps check no? otherwise you could keep going if you just get the jump right

[silk schooner]

what are the names of the 3 bosses in hell?

[fossil pollen]

lich warlord ghost king

[eternal thistle]

hey discord people, is there info / any updates regarding class training ?

[lofty arch]

Other players can hear you pull out your weapon while in hide/invis pot right?

[unborn lichen]

is it going to wipe soon? The loot in dungeon seems very high randomly

[sonic schooner]

in like a month

[silk meadow]

rng

[unborn lichen]

I had a feeling because the loot quality got bumped up

[fossil pollen]

estimated wipe was september no? there was a 2,5h discussion

[unborn lichen]

every time its near wipe loot seem to suddenly become blue/purple often

[sonic schooner]

September 6th

[odd moth]

does achillies strike not activate on thrown torch hits?

[wary thicket]

кто-нибудь, помогите пройти квест с личом, я нубик, в соло буду его целую вечность проходить

[thorn nimbus]

nope pretty sure drums also dont work only frans

[odd moth]

thanks

[cobalt bison]

cant wait for a pve mode

[coarse void]

so people teaming up in solos is a thing?

[cobalt bison]

@coarse void if u do the crouch of trust some times

[coarse void]

i tried that once and got stabbed in the back

[cobalt bison]

yea the "works sometimes" part makes it risky

[spice nymph]

is anyone elses dark and darker stuttering?

[noble zodiac]

thats it, my next barb's name is OnlyFrans

[cobalt bison]

i didnt even know games could have speech impediments

[signal fiber]

how much is a Chest worth homies?

[ripe quartz]

Flying things seem bugged with daggers

[gilded trout]

Do extra thick pelts serve a purpose?

[drowsy iris]

Any cool guys willing to help me complete the lich or ghost king quests?

[rapid vapor]

a quest requires 2, idk if there are any recipes that use them right now

[outer juniper]

does anyone know when this season is over????

[jolly night]

Sep 7

[tight narwhal]

I feel like people who played the beta should have gotten something in game

[opaque shuttle]

the chance to buy the hold the line edition

[tight narwhal]

Yeah maybe I almost bought it but decided not to at the time cause I didn't have the money

[vapid hedge]

Does anyone know why my game keeps saying it’s abnormally crashing. I’ve tried steam in administration mode and it still didnt help is it a server issue?

[timid sedge]

Hello, I'm kind of new to the game, ranger here... would anyone like to play rn?

[ripe quartz]

Has anyone built a Rapier only Rogue

[onyx lichen]

is the server down i cant connect

[limpid rapids]

i also cant connect

[eager quiver]

are we not allowed to bring empty gold bag into dungeon?

[opaque shuttle]

not in normals since its considered unique grade

[onyx lichen]

this screenshot is what the na servers are doing to me rn
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3300019763

[opaque shuttle]

dead link?

[upbeat rock]

How do i upgrade my account to founders edition?

[still token]

That seems extremely overkill

[onyx lichen]

Current visibility: HiddenThis item will only be visible to you, admins, and anyone marked as a creator.

[turbid pine]

its no longer available--it was a limited time thing
right now there's only "Squire" (free demo) and "Legendary" (the full game)

[onyx lichen]

you can see it now

[opaque shuttle]

i think steam server maintenance?

[onyx lichen]

is steam late updating they usually update close to 5 pm est

[opaque shuttle]

i’m not sure i don’t even use the steam version

[eager quiver]

how we just bringing purse

[onyx lichen]

STEAM BROKE DARK & DARKER SERVERS FOR US

[hollow totem]

It used to be standard

But coin bags are tagged as unique rarity so you can't bring them into normal lobbies

[onyx lichen]

i fix it had to re log into steam for it to work

[eager quiver]

cant remember how many time i dump that 10 gold man some of it is even better then some green gear

[opaque shuttle]

i dont even run coin purse in hr because it makes coins inside it not give ap

[ebon marten]

can you go below wyvern on every phasing to not get dmg/pushed any1 know? i do it on 3rd phase but havent tried first two

[vast lichen]

hi, i have much cobalt powder but i cant find how to craft cobalt items

[opaque shuttle]

you need to have tailor (leathersmith?) at 50 or 75 affinity

[vagrant furnace]

VENDOR THEM LIL BLUE FUCKNUGGETS

[vast lichen]

thanks

[hallow crescent]

cave troll is literally just bad game design. terrible fucking boss

[vagrant furnace]

How many times have you killed the cave troll in order to determine that it's bad? Or we here cause u bad?

[high sapphire]

HAHAHAH ngl didnt even think of that

[hallow crescent]

Why not both? Just bad design plus I’m bad

[rotund pawn]

Not in normals

[high sapphire]

[misty wren]

you guys know how to fix the crash error
GPU Crash dump Triggered
DungeonCrawler
kernel32
ntdll

[thorn nimbus]

i just heard the arcane's shield sfx for the first time and....damn how tf are there no sfx from this game on yt yet

[loud perch]

the devs have to fix their fucking servers bruh they are so shitty

[lean rover]

Guys.... Do you think we will ever get cool animations like dark and darker mobile has?

[vagrant furnace]

It's just a hard boss tbh, I died probably 15 times before I started lasting more than 5 swings. It's mainly about recognizing his swings and pattern

[nova chasm]

is it me or the troll basic hammer attack range has been increased ?

[full kettle]

Can someone help me price check some gloves ?

Ruby Rawhide Gloves 2 agi, 2 str, 2 vig, 1 add phys

[warm olive]

How do i report teamers these guys were obviously in a discord call togther teaming in solo HR crypts just sad

[opal breach]

not on 1st phase, u can run behind the wyvern to do something similar though

[old crag]

Around what speed should I keep my barbarian? With and without chest armor

[ebon marten]

aight but second phase where he AoE cold staying below him wont affect me same as 3 ye?

[ebon palm]

you wanna be fast af boi

[marsh shuttle]

does sword mastery stack if you have a normal sword + short sword?

[valid bronze]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/570709/voice-lines-for-casters

[undone jacinth]

#in-game-reports

[loud perch]

#FixYourShittyAssServers

[verbal zealot]

do ppl actually get in trouble for teaming? is it possible to get banned for it?

[cosmic swan]

If it's pre teaming then yes definitely

[toxic rose]

apparently the season rewards were released and it's a mummy skin, some kind of dance from goblin merchant and collector?

i don't get it, i thought the rewards were from uh, the pathfinder HR stuff?

[turbid pine]

two different ways of getting entirely unrelated cosmetics
the ranked rewards have not been shown yet.
this is how it worked the last season as well, frost skeleton was a Quest reward while frost walker was a ranked reward

[cosmic swan]

No, it's not the leaderboard season reward it's only the Quest cosmetic reward

[still token]

You mean purses right? Not bags? If not then I wish I had that much money to spend on one run lol

[toxic rose]

ooooooh i see, ty

[warm olive]

yea these guys literelly tag teamed me and looted my body together, one chased while the other shot me so dumb

[high sapphire]

def report them especially if they werent talking in voip

[velvet valley]

So why would you get banned if you and you have like 4 friends and you get in the same lobby with them in duos like isnt that the games fault

[cosmic swan]

#in-game-reports my call is to alway report teamer if it's not pre teaming/they don't do teaming everytime one report won't make them ban.

[soft scroll]

when do the portals spaw now on the solo?

[worthy hedge]

whats best squire gear for druid

[stiff canopy]

Hey is anyone else having issues with only having 4-5 frames?.

[turbid pine]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/Crypt-01-N
you can find the extract locations of every map on this website

[cosmic swan]

If that happen once and you get reported one then it should be ok. But safer to wait one rotation to be in a different lobby or wait for their game to start before joining

[urban spindle]

is anyone elses game just like super laggy all day? just died to mobs cuz the game keeps freezing for like 3-5 seconds

[turbid pine]

Druid chat would probably give you the best answers
(go to id:customize to access it)

[velvet valley]

okay bet gotcha! ty

[cosmic swan]

And even if that happen if you don't group up to PvP with your other duo friend then you won't have any trouble

[tranquil iris]

anyone same issues with stutters sometimes?

[urban spindle]

its been ALL day

[still token]

It’s the same hitbox

[opaque shuttle]

only skin with a different hitbox is the lizardman and its just his head is slightly longer
unless lycan has a different hitbox too and i just dont know

[still token]

Yes… it’s a skin, not an entirely new hitbox, just a reskin

[opaque shuttle]

yes you cannot shoot between his ribs, it will still hit

[karmic crescent]

Where the hell is the outside map why did they remove it

[cosmic swan]

Yes, every race have the same hitbox except lizard and werewolf head

@karmic crescent it's being rework and it will come back with next wipe with a new boss

[turbid pine]

you mean Ruins? its being worked on and will be readded with the start of the new season

[cosmic swan]

Try on a friend but it should work too

[pseudo zinc]

not really opposed to fighting highly geared people but for those that actually care this gearscore system seems pretty heavily flawed IMO

[opaque shuttle]

yes he still has a stomach hitbox

[bright acorn]

I’m new to the game, is ranger good?

[cosmic swan]

Yes, the actual gear score bracket are really bad imo. Especially the lack of any of it in HR. Hopefully the new matchmaking system will fix that

@bright acorn It's mid, really good against specific class. Not excellent but ok. It's more that other class are too strong, than ranger is too weak

[supple sequoia]

nexxt update?

[scenic turret]

Only big issue is how impactful boots are cause ms and how strong pendant enchants are being undervalued

[cosmic swan]

September 7th if you mean wipe. Update should be in 2-3 day

^

[supple sequoia]

nah like game update to adding more to it @cosmic swan

[scenic turret]

Uncommon pendant with +1 true damage and +6 hp is like 9 gear score and that's crazy. +6hp and then like, another thing is like 13

[cosmic swan]

Usually they're one Thursday/ Friday

[karmic crescent]

when is giant centipede and bat health decrease

[pseudo zinc]

isnt the weakness of a halberd supposed to be someone closing the distance in your face??? why did I just get hit for almost 120 on the literal shaft of the weapon

[jovial sandal]

Lycan and lizard have different size heads

[karmic crescent]

when am i gonna be able to rearrange my inventory whilst resting

[atomic flame]

ay caroline says whats up

[karmic crescent]

yo what the actual fuck

[atomic flame]

she busy rn we playing some dark and darker rn

[karmic crescent]

lol i forgot shes in my bio

[plush trellis]

where do i find gold and rubysilver ore

[turbid pine]

Rubysilver: Inferno, in the corners of the map (TL + BR in map 1, BL + TR in map 2)
Gold: Goblin Caves, in the room locked behind killing both Cyclops and Cave Troll

[plush trellis]

Thanks

[tall coral]

nerd your wrong actually gold ore is only found in ice abyss in the wyvern room and rubysilver can be found anywhere in crypts you need lockpicking on rogue to be able to see it though

[high sapphire]

brother what?

[plush trellis]

whats the crypts

[cosmic swan]

You forgot to say that we can drop Wyvern's egg on Spider mummy and Ghost's king crown in the pot of the right top corner of Ruins

[tall drift]

what does E do in demon mode on warlock?

[opaque shuttle]

i think you do a bit of extra damage and gain something similar to lifesteal where you heal based on their max hp
you can open your inventory and hover over it to see while in demon form

[tall drift]

you're right! tyy

[cosmic swan]

"When using Blood Pact, this skill replaces the other equipped skill. Cannot be used outside of Blood Pact. Deal an additional 4 Evil Evil Magical Base Damage (100% Scaling) over 4s to all enemies you hit with a physical attack within 4s and heals the caster by 5% of the target's maximum health, up to 20 per hit. "

[turbid pine]

Evil Evil Magical Base Damage? Hell yeah

[cosmic swan]

Not sure about the "Up to 20 per hit" pretty sure it's more than that. Like at least 30

@turbid pine xD that's because of the small icon in the wiki description

[opaque shuttle]

thats because it scales with magic heal

[cosmic swan]

No like the in game description is more than 20 i'm quite sure and if it specifie "Up to" then I think you can heal more than that even with magical healing. That max value probably don't scale. The 5% of max health that's what can be increased via scaling and magical healing, not sure for the "Up to" value

[opaque shuttle]

pretty sure with +1 magic heal you can heal up to 20, then it adds one for 21

could be wrong but that’s the only way i can see you getting more than 20hp

[cosmic swan]

Ok, I can be wrong i'm not a main warlock at all. I'll check tomorrow if I remember xD

@worldly lance Yes unfortunately

[worldly lance]

Do you have to have the game installed on blacksmith to link your account on steam
Thats whack

[loud perch]

so im fighting a ranger close range and i hit him twice with a longsword before he even pulls out his spear and he still kills me? (i didnt miss any swings)

[charred cave]

fun fact ranger can use spears

[hollow totem]

Truly one of the things this game has needed since I started playing is gearscore brackets for matchmaking. 50 is such a comically low gear score and you can hit it with 1 good item or 2 greens sometimes.

[rustic blade]

Which 3 merchants are the reward quests again ?

[turbid pine]

collector tavernmaster goblin

[rustic blade]

Thanks G

[rare jetty]

Are any of y'all open to talking about something that recently happened to me and I don't know what to do about it

[high sapphire]

dude i crash after like every game wtf

[lucid iris]

does anyone know why it crashes everytime i get out of a raid

[dense fulcrum]

lets just make fighter the best class at everything yay tanky that can use the fastest weapons in the game with no penaltys and best range

[ripe quartz]

Are ice harpy mini bosses or just tough

[eager quiver]

how are some warlock player able to heal faster using life drain on hydra while i keep on losing HP

[frosty spoke]

im pretty sure harpy is not a mini boss

[drowsy iris]

Does Dark Reflection deal more damage if the warlock is holding a magic staff in his hand when hit?

[slim glen]

magical healing stats

[eager quiver]

i see

[loud perch]

#FixYourFuckingServers

[eager quiver]

chill

[gray verge]

I'm watching a landmine rogue in spectator rn.. I think he doesn't realize I took his exit staircase

[rich needle]

yo my game keeps crashing in the lobby anyone got a solution?

[versed thunder]

just made friends with a guy while i was waiting near an exit door to open and dude goes "yo wanna help me clear this room" and then after a bit i go back and he's gone and the door is filled in 😭

[opal marsh]

buff magical healing

[gray verge]

oof

[timid basin]

Is rogue dead ?

[high sapphire]

nah ambush is fine just gotta wait longer lol. actually stupid how they nerf invis and creep but not ambush wtf IM the rogues are just gonna sit and wait longer duhh

[jade pike]

make different high roller lobbies why at 300gs im fighting 550-600 gear score korean got no brain or whats going on here????

[gray verge]

nice racism bro

[wild matrix]

does will or knowledge give me more magical healing? or is it just magical healing stat

[latent sluice]

when does the season end

[turbid pine]

sept 6th

[slow juniper]

anybody know why my lobby proximity chat is locked and not in game?

[slender lion]

how many teams load in for duos and trios?

[turbid pine]

6 duos (for 12 players total)
5 trios (for 15 players total)

[neon mica]

You are honestly incompetent if you think barbarian is ok

[turbid pine]

Will gives Magic Power, which adds to Magic Healing
Knowledge will have no effect

[neon mica]

Do your job

[digital zinc]

Anyone know when wipe is?

[silk rover]

is reshade bannable i dont wanna use it if im gonna get banned, because i know most games dont ahve it banned?

[silk rover]

september 6th

[digital zinc]

Was this posted somewhere?

[ripe quartz]

Rogue pve is so hard

[wild matrix]

ah alright

[crystal nacelle]

Why does Ray of darkness deal so little damage in practice when it should deal 12 dmg per hit?

[coral wasp]

whats the best cape for speed? adventurer cloak or cloak of darkness?

[turbid pine]

darkness

[atomic flame]

i want to rub your bald head

[obtuse linden]

@sterile robin Im going to remove that question just because this is not the place to ask that. I would recommend creating a ticket and asking the Moderators.

[sterile robin]

All good! My apologies!

[atomic flame]

hey teddy is my above comment alright, dont want to break any rules

[obtuse linden]

[atomic flame]

im just complimenting on the mans hairline, as a heisenburg myself, bald men is my brotherhood

[obtuse linden]

Yeah you're good! Just keep it appropriate

[opal cedar]

whats meta?

[wanton otter]

crinj'

[jagged cape]

speed lock is cool, hope a dev sees some dark and darker karma for this trash they call balance

[amber panther]

I don't know if this is the right channel, but was wondering if 3000 would be appropriate for this piece:

Viking helm with +2 strength, +5 armor rating, and 1% magical damage reduction

[empty parrot]

You’re fast asf, just make sure you have enough room before an engagement and back step all the enemy’s hits.I usually use rapier cause you have a bit more range to work with than daggers for the backstep. The timing can be a bit hard to get down but I believe in you.( Side Note, double dagger primary for PvP, Rapier for PvE. This has helped me as a newer rouge a lot)

[zealous chasm]

Top Trio Roster: Bard, Wizard, Cleric

[zealous chasm]

Sorry you feel so strongly and badly about getting wiped by a lightly armored WarLock. Next time you will be prepared.

[ripe quartz]

In one on ones i do good. Can i be hit during hide

[empty parrot]

You’re invisible during hide not invulnerable, if a mob is attacking you already it won’t do much but they will lose aggro. A player will just try to guess where you are and keep swinging

[ripe quartz]

Ok that helps.

[lean rover]

Awww! I wish Ironmace would talk with DnD mobile developers to ge their animations into the PC version ❤️

They have just accepted 34 suggestions from players from 11746 total suggestions; I don't think they even look into suggestions anymore since last one was taken into consideration about a year ago

[slender glacier]

does any1 know how much phy dmg bonus on weapons equate to? is 1 % just 1 phys power?

[remote shuttle]

how do you copy item id to the trading post?

[slow bobcat]

How much do copper Lightfoots, +5 movespeed and 1 garbage Stat go for?

[drowsy iris]

Physical damage bonus is added as flat percentage points on top of one's current bonus.

[slender glacier]

So if im currently at 5% on stat screen, and weapon has 4.9 it just adds that 4.9 to a total of 9.9?

[high compass]

How much can i sell Cinder for ? all bad rolls but still named

[rapid vapor]

The amount of phys power bonus you get from phys power depends on how much you already have. This might help https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats#Physical_Power

[subtle heart]

Am I imagining things, or is Druid really weak right now? It's been a few weeks since I last played, and it feels like the class has been heavily nerfed. Before, Druids already struggled to win 1v1s, except against Rogues, Archers, and Wizards, but now it seems even worse. Sure, Druids still have good mobility, but that feels like the only strong point in solo play. In trios, abilities like Treant and Wall are still useful, but overall, the class feels pretty underwhelming.

[rapid vapor]

They nerfed druid a bunch. The last qna they said they probably over nerfed it

[charred phoenix]

I'm stuck trying to kill the lich, any tips?

[toxic rose]

for fighter, is max health or max health bonus stat more important on an item (if you had to pick)?

[dense yew]

how do I find a yeti tooth

[rotund pawn]

What class?

[gentle quail]

how much do gold coin chests go for usually?

[pastel swan]

the game felt really smooth like 2 days ago I got on today and everything feels SO choppy wtf happened

[rapid vapor]

Kill yetis on frost mountain

[dense yew]

will luck help

[rapid vapor]

Yes

[charred phoenix]

infernal pledge work with bosses too?

[charred phoenix]

warlock, I always get one shot by his blue or purple spell i dont remember wich one

[turbid pine]

he does a curse every 20% hp
blue does 50% max hp as TRUE magic dmg
purple does 95%

the big takeaway is staying at max hp all fight
if you get hit, stop doing dps and start med'ing up.

[charred phoenix]

if I use antimagic and infernal pledge will it reduce those damages ?

[turbid pine]

See (now) bolded text

you cannot reduce it

[charred phoenix]

damn... ok thanks for the infos

[bright acorn]

im new how do i coutner magic

[karmic crescent]

quests and affinity progress need to be universal for all your characters in the wipe, there is quite literally no reason for it to be otherwise it's rediculous

[marsh flax]

Dreadhood bugged? looks like ranger hood?

[whole terrace]

Any idea of when we might get some game updates? It's been a while.

[glacial narwhal]

i kinda wanna see a monk class

[midnight cloak]

does anyone know when next wipe will be?

[tall drift]

Why not show us the seconds other than the dumb (Less than a minute)

[undone jacinth]

I'd recommend joining The Hall of Knights discord if you need guides and help along your adventure! You can find it posted in #🔗links

[molten pilot]

hello, where can I go to price check an item?

[cosmic swan]

It as be announced for September 6th

[cosmic swan]

If you mean hotfix, the last one was less than a week ago, the next one should be in 2-3 day. If you mean info on what's coming like next wipe -> https://youtu.be/gkJyDfDdbjo?si=EpgvEjrvKOyXyfZY

@glacial narwhal It's not for anytime soon but it's planned.

[cosmic swan]

Well the reason is that player who play the game a lot will gave less things to do and less reward to earn. But anyway account wide quest is something Dev want to do. They said that it would be harder than it seem to implement and have negative side effect than they want to avoid. They will most likely go to a solution like only sharing Squire progression or maybe even Merchant Affinity (without unlocking the craft) on every character

[proven flare]

does the lich kill counts for me if the last hit is from a teammate?

[charred phoenix]

were you a rogue by any chance ?

[proven flare]

no, i was druid, my friend was rogue

[charred phoenix]

I just killed lich thanks to a random rogue

mummy skin quest unlocked 🥳

[timid hare]

yo is the HR wyvern different from the normal one? i can kill the normal one eys closed with base kit, but im having such a hard time vs the hr

[past robin]

Pve mode? Only pure PvP modes are coming

[tired summit]

faster, more hp, more damage

[whole terrace]

I mean hotfix. But we haven't had a major hotfix in a long time. Just hotfix "parts" or whatever. I hope to see something that would spice things up a bit.

[steady stirrup]

hey does the magical healing even scale anymore? i know it got nerfed but is it even noticeable difference at cap at this point?

[nova orbit]

How do I do the "Interact Torch" quest?? I have interacted with over 15 different torches in one session like 3 times but it simply wont complete itself?

[finite bridge]

Is the ruins map ever coming back? Where did it go? Why devs 😢

[fervent needle]

I have a question! What quest do i need to do when i play as a Ranger? Since you get the Base Geared upgraded.I dont want to waste my time on what i dont need.

[nova orbit]

nevermind, it worked now idfk

[odd thistle]

Tailor for cotton(loose trousers and gambesons) leathersmith for leather (boots and higher armor rating stuff) and woodsman for bows.

[nova orbit]

yep, next season it's confirmed to be coming back

[odd thistle]

They said it was too open so they are reworking it and adding a boss AFAIK

[nova orbit]

correct

[woven jackal]

Does anyone know why i cant hear anyone in voip? I already checked my audio settings on my PC and my headphones are set to the correct in for output

[odd thistle]

Have you been able to before or is this a sudden thing?

[woven jackal]

I was able to do it before but , my headphones broke so im using airpod pros now

[odd thistle]

Does other voice software work fine? Like discord?

[woven jackal]

yeah

[undone jacinth]

Have you tried verifying your game files?

[woven jackal]

okay i just changed my airpods as default for my output because i think whats happening is whenever i connect them my headphones dont insta connect to output, maybe not though idk

[woven jackal]

no, ill do that real quick thanks

[odd thistle]

That's the only thing I can imagine is that for some reason the game doesn't recognize that you have a mic but only speakers for some reason. Kinda random but if verifying game files doesn't work like that one person said maybe check for audio driver updates? I'm not sure what else tho sorry

[fervent needle]

Thx

[undone jacinth]

no worries! hope it helps

[woven jackal]

I have a mic, people can hear me but i cant hear them (for voip)

[odd thistle]

Random question are you on windows 8.1 by chance? Hate the timer, lol. But I found someone else who had this exact issue and he said going from 8.1 to 10 fixed it lmao

[woven jackal]

no windows 10 haha i dont think u can even run dark and darker on windows 8.1. im updating my NVIDA drivers maybe that will help with something 🤷

[sage sparrow]

can you crossplay with a paid blacksmith launcher account and a f2p steam account?

[woven jackal]

@odd thistle @undone jacinth my voip works now! thanks so much for the help, i always felt bad not being able to help the timmies but now i can

[undone jacinth]

YAY!!! ❤️

[odd thistle]

[odd thistle]

Yes, the person who has the paid launcher can switch to the steam version as well i believe.

[sage sparrow]

no i'm saying can I play with someone who's playing on a f2p steam account with a blacksmith paid account

[odd thistle]

Yes. I was also just mentioning that was an option. But you can play with eachother. Keep in mind that free players can't do HR so they won't be able to join you in those lobbies.

[true cobalt]

why are gk prices dropping so much??

[charred phoenix]

can't believe I lost to a rogue

[toxic roost]

Does Cleric Protection stack with protection potions?

[timid juniper]

Pelt and gold bag prices dropping as well, I guess more supply than there is demand

[undone wasp]

Is there anyone who has had weird texture (I think) glitches? Such as the inventory only showing 1/3 and the rest being black or weird purple or yellow textures where they shouldn't be on the game UI?

[odd thistle]

No, only one shield buff at a time.

[runic plank]

Bc warlocks are just farming troll like crazy bc it’s super easy to do

[true cobalt]

thought there was a wipe near, they dropped 2k in 8 hours

[timid juniper]

Wipe is not close at all, i think it's december

[runic plank]

I think it’s September the 6

[timid juniper]

Na no way

[odd thistle]

Sept 6 was the date said on the dev interview. He said it's only a placeholder date but it will be around then

[desert orchid]

does wendigo have crazy reach or do your hands extend out super far with halberd?

[oak cypress]

Is there a way to fix the bug with the shield for warlock demon form?

[desert orchid]

what kinda virus ass looking link is that

[pine violet]

Hi good people im new to Barb class, does smashing chests with the perk on gives prop interaction AP when grinding points in HR? or do I have to cautiously open them like a beta barbarian?..

[forest tapir]

does rupture/poison scale off true magical damage?

[shut kite]

[tulip obsidian]

Any australians/OCE players in here? looking for friends to play DnD with 🙂

[zenith copper]

You can smash chests open? 🤯

[odd thistle]

Barb perk. Let's them smash doors and chests

[zenith copper]

That's sick

[limber horizon]

I'm really hoping that SDF does an update were you can put an offer to the person listing an item. cos i'm seeing these stupid listing that are not getting sold. It just then goes to the weapons smith cos they think it's not good.

[pine violet]

Yup with the perk and big weapons

[thorn nimbus]

Thats a good idea
Btw I noticed add ms is so overpriced that legendary lightfoots with 1% ms bonus are the same price as epic lightfoots with 3 add ms even tho the legendaries give you 1 more move speed 1 more ar and an extra roll lmao

[zenith copper]

Lmaoooooo some ranger attacked me and was peppering me with arrows but dropped into the wolf den to get away from me and he aggro'd 5 wolves and got killed ahahahaha get rekt "logolastheelf"

Also, how do you block wolf attacks with a shield? Even if I crouch and block they get so close they clip through my shields hit box. 🤔

[undone jacinth]

Practice to find that sweet spot. It’s hard sometimes

[shut kite]

some attacks are just unblockable- whether its designed that way, or intentional, sometimes you have dodge certain attacks. like the wolf lunge attack

[undone jacinth]

Constant rotation in a circle usually dodges everything from woofs

[shut kite]

^+1

there probably is a way to block every attack in the game, but they just might be so hard its not worth trying or learning when you can dodge them

[river sand]

hi! am i the only one having troubles in match making? it takes really long and then a window pops up asking if i want to reconnect to the game. I'd select yes but it just brings me back to the character select screen

[shut kite]

check your bandwidth and internet connection, if it isn't on your end- its probably the dark and darker servers

they get really laggy and bad sometimes, especially in game with rubberbanding and teleporting enemies

also might be worth asking people who are on your server specifically

[marsh star]

alternatively, you can just walk right, and they will miss (mean to tag the wolf comment)

[river sand]

aight thanks!

[undone steeple]

I just looted troll's Club, do i need for a craft ? which craft is it for ?

[grand shadow]

does Will increase the buff duration you apply to allies or only to yourself? Also, does it affect the debuff duration you apply to enemies?

[rapid vapor]

Buff duration and debuff duration only apply to yourself

[shut kite]

your friends and enemies have their own will which will effect how long buffs and debuffs last on them, not your will-

[odd thistle]

Makes a weapon called trolls bane. Not sure how much affinity you need with weaponsmith to see the service tho.

[vapid arch]

you need max affinity, its a quarter staff with 10 less ms penalty and max health bonus

[undone steeple]

i got it, is that the quaterstaff like ?

[odd thistle]

ya this one https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Troll's_Bane

[undone steeple]

Yeah i have the max affinity with the weaponsmith

Is troll's bane good ?

[carmine kelp]

Hello, gamers. Is it possible to gift legendary status? I wanted to gift it to my friend, but can’t find a way.

[slow bobcat]

Does dex or action speed make recovery after block faster?

[lyric reef]

ГДЕ МОЖНО СКАЧАТЬ ДНД??????????

[sick saffron]

hey my brothers in liberty, would anyone know if the quest cosmetics are per character or per account ?

[opal saddle]

@slow bobcat that is a good question.

[odd thistle]

Neither its affected by something called Impact power/resistance that is set per weapon and shield. for example: Weapon A has an impact power of 5 and shield A has an impact resistance of 4 the person blocking will get a "heavy" stager(this is also a set amount of time depending on shield) Now you get hit by Weapon B with an impact power of 3, you will now have a "weak" stagger(again determined by the shield)

[opal saddle]

@slow bobcat @the wiki does save it affects Shields but does not clarify if is works for recovery after blocking.

Say not save

[dawn thistle]

ngl removal of circle killed the game for me, being able to escape from anywhere makes everyone avoid fights or perma kite you wich is giga unfun
who actually likes pve that much????? idk how people can praise removal of circle when you can now play games and not fight anyone

[vapid arch]

circle forced people into bad situations at no fault of their own or rewarded people that didn't deserve it
this also isn't a battle royale game

[dawn thistle]

well it litteraly was a battle royale, until they removed the circle

[teal birch]

why are ppl so bloodthirsty rn?

[opal saddle]

I like the circle removal because it gave more time to loot after a kill plus people would rat outside of circle anyway.

[vapid arch]

the game was never intended to be so and its not in the devs vision either

[odd thistle]

But it wasnt advertised as one. It was advertised as a dungeon crawler looter. The circle made no sense imo

[dawn thistle]

okay but playing 3 games in a row and not finding anyone/finding 1 dude that insta runs away sucks ?? the mobs all have litteraly 2 moves why tf would people want to ONLY do that

[slow bobcat]

Thank you.

[dawn thistle]

the peak time to play for me was introduction of goblin caves, you could run around and perma fight it was straight up fun idk, ice caves feel bad too cause you just look top right corner and see 6 dudes already dead to mobs like???

[drowsy creek]

how do you finish the interact with floor spike quest, do i have to disarm it?

[vagrant furnace]

Yea

[fast lagoon]

is teaming in solos allowed? just started a hr session after a long time, and 2 people in the lobby just teamed up, and even killed me 2 minutes later in the actual game

[odd thistle]

Joining a game with the intention of pre teaming with someone in paticular is not allowed, but I believe if you are in the lobby and just decide to team up through voip its allowed.

[broken cove]

Pre teaming: Going into the dungeon trying to snipe a friend's match to team up is not allowed
(Goodluck proving they did that if it ever happens to you)

In game teaming: in the lobby or dungeon is allowed, everyone else can team up on you.

[past robin]

You can not attack eachother and be friendly but not attack players together

[signal ibex]

People complaining about no pvp, people complaining about teaming.. it's almost like everyone has a different experience 🤔

[thick ridge]

Hi, since I installed the game, the map change timer is not working I have a value of 99h99m99s (like on img below). Does anyone have a solution for this? https://imgur.com/a/n9JrraP

[pure beacon]

Actually pretty easy for themif you team up with the same guy beforehand , they can just check game logs and see that you are always with the same guy in solos and get teaming reports + extra points if you duo queued with him before

[chrome fog]

mine has been like that for about 6 months

[thick ridge]

basically i have like 130+h for now, and yesterday I was playing with a colleague who never mentioned that it was working for him, so I wanted to find out why, i cant see map timer.

[cobalt halo]

anyone need a party member?

[thick ridge]

thanks anyway <3

[placid ivy]

if u trade a looted item to someone does it become handled ?

[echo plover]

yes

[empty latch]

yo guys the game continuosly crashing any ideas?

[warm crane]

@dusty dune @orchid fulcrum why are you farming for demigod on south america server dude? it seems like you guys can't hold your own on your region and come grind here to kill unexperienced people. Great job noobs, grodech died to my bear 🙂

such skilled people killing pathfinder rank, it seems the top ranks are just sweat farmers outside their region xd

I bet you guys used the FPS drop exploit to pinpoint us, good job sweats!

[old latch]

Dam

[orchid fulcrum]

Were from south america wtf are u talking about

[warm crane]

Im brazilian, it seems you cant hold your own and farm here, gj noobs

[orchid fulcrum]

Im from chile... you can check my steam and everything that is linked on my profile, next time don't eat 10 arrows... BTW we laugh at the oneshot u did to me and its cliped

[dusty dune]

experience is gained by dying/killing

[orchid fulcrum]

Anything else to say ?

[shut kite]

today I learned, not only can you bounce on top of spiders- spiders can be pushed underneath you by other enemies and cause you to bounce even when you don't jump

[prime ferry]

hilarious that little spiders are one of the scariest mobs

[shut kite]

it's like they aren't even that scary or strong- they are so predictable and easy to maneuver but they are so janky they probably kill a lot more players than they should

[empty latch]

you guys know that when you make an account you cant trade for like 3 days or so? it would be nice new players to not be able for that period of time queing in lobby's with other players that arent as new as them "that 3 days time period i mean" , because as myself i dont que above 125 gs, and its a shame not to have a real fight with some1 because his a timmie.

[prime ferry]

Yea the spiders are the only mob who’s jankiness actually works in their favor. I disagree that they’re not scary, otherwise people wouldn’t rush their little pot like their life depends on it

[severe otter]

remove traps from the game entirely

[safe cloud]

Is anyone else experiencing tons of rubberbanding since yesterday?

[prime ferry]

I’ve had tons of rubberbanding for a week or two

[pure beacon]

how do you get fame?

[broken cove]

As a player how are you going to know it wasn't a natural team up to report?

[turbid pine]

1:1 with class lvl (including lvls from previous wipes/seasons)

[pure beacon]

you dont but you should still report them, if it happens a few more times they will get looked into it i think

[shut kite]

I thought fame was the accumulated level of all your characters combined currently

[noble barn]

when in doubt, give it a #in-game-reports and IM will check

[prime ferry]

Report all team ups, I’d be surprised if they’re allowed under any circumstances

[noble barn]

Fame is a character specific that carries over seasons. so if your fighter reached level 20 this season, they will start with fame 20 next season but still level 1

[shut kite]

wow ok, I have seen players with fame almost at like 600 and 800 so I guess that just means they have been playing forever

[noble barn]

yes, they really enoy the game then. keep in mind though if you delete your character, the fame is gone for good

[shut kite]

that would make sense

[stone haven]

Fame should be account wide across all classes tbh

[violet tree]

Can I ask someone's input on what price I should ask for a pair of legendary gloves I found? I can send a screenshot if we IM.

[noble barn]

i could see though that maybe at some point we get character name change for red shards too as we got for account name. makes sense to me at least but who knows

[hard harness]

I have a suggestion for a new ring/necklace that has the life steal from physical damage similar to warlock for other classes, should not scale and heals for 2 points per hit for green version and one point more per rarity, should only work for pve
so people who have no pots don't need to wait an hour sitting without a campfire to regain there health

[covert mango]

is there a velocity difference between bows/crossbows?

[hard harness]

yes crossbows are much faster projectiles

[pure beacon]

when was fame first introduced ? with steam release or after multiclassing ?

[neon mica]

You guys are literally incompetent game is broken until you address barbarian

Literally as competent as SS and fbi

[hard harness]

barbarians are fine, you just have to weaken them first with range before attacking them with melee
to be honest the only class I am having difficulty with is druids bear form with that one hit kill potential is very broken, if they nerf bear damage then druid is finally balanced

[lapis latch]

druid bear form is hot garbage. if you hold the S key a bear can never hit you

[fluid thunder]

top 5 stupidest chatters

[hard harness]

trust me who did not see a good druid player that rushes you with panther chicken rat then transforms to bear and one shots you

[lapis latch]

not possible. ive tested bear form holding S is the direct counter... it takes 2 seconds for the bear animation to go off before your hit

[hard harness]

you just have to trust my words, when I tell you bear form damage is broken, I have a suggestion to please both side, why not nerf bear damage and increase the attack speed slightly

[lapis latch]

if bear form did amillion damage i will still never die to bear form and never have. they are easy to dodge and fight

[hard harness]

there a situations where you are trapped and cant move how will you dodge? with nerfed bear damage atleast youll get a chance after the hit to run away and reset

[lapis latch]

thats the only situation that bear form is even viable which has never happened to me

[runic turtle]

druids are kinda rare now after the nerfs, he prob never played against a good bear druid before lol

[odd thistle]

They are allowed if they are naturally formed in the dungeon. But you are right you should report them all and let IM decide if it was natural or not.

[hard harness]

your right, I rarely see them, but when I do in high tier lobbies they only rush with bear, never use their human form unless for healing

[runic turtle]

cause hes right if the druid is bad they are super easy to dodge and kill

[lapis latch]

i cant believe people are saying bear form needs a nerf lol. its gotta be one of the weakest things in the game right now

[hard harness]

like I said before, you still did not see a good druid player, if you do you will understand, I killed players in bear form before

[runic turtle]

its definitely not as weak as you are saying. you can 1 tap juiced players if you build right

[lapis latch]

how can you assume ive never played against a good druid player? i have 250 hours this wipe and have a level 100 in 3 classes

[neon mica]

Absolutely incorrect barbarians broken as f*** it's stupid as f*** that you can literally one hit anybody that's been hit by another NPC

Literally all you have to do is wait outside a room. You hear somebody fighting and open the door when the combat's done

[runic turtle]

you can do that with any class tho

[lapis latch]

bear form overall needs a buff. go watch druidpromez on twitch he plays with all the top people, ive never seen him get a bear kill

[neon mica]

Wrong insane the delusions ppl come up with

[hard harness]

I don't wanna go in circles with you, fine bear form is balanced, happy

[lapis latch]

no i dont think bear form is balanced... i think its very underpowred thats why druids rarely use it

[runic turtle]

so barb is broken cause you get third partied by them? i dont get ur complaints

[hard harness]

Guess your a druid main XD

[lapis latch]

theres a druid in my lobbies once every 3 games... none of them use bear... why arent lobbies full of druids if they are so broken?

[runic turtle]

cause its hard to play well, same as bard

[hard harness]

I only said bear form damage, not the class, the class is weak, I rarely play it

[lapis latch]

i see way more bards and they require much more skill than druid - flawed logic

[hard harness]

I rarely see bards actually

[runic turtle]

nah, 1-2 bards a lobby isnt the same as lobbies full of them. one of the strongest classes in the game they would fill lobbies if they were easy. druid is weaker but still requires skill to be good. same thing

[lapis latch]

i dont even remotely fear high level druids. i fear bards

[shut kite]

do druid bear and panther forms make a lot of noise when attacking? like compared to normal combat or is it louder like magic or bards music?

[blazing pulsar]

yeah man its loud as sht

[tropic anchor]

guys where is "Four Route" in ice caverns (nvm found it)

[shut kite]

I was going to say, I tried druid for a brief period- had a lot of fun clipping through the floor with rat form but being in bear or panther form the sound you make when attacking seemed quite loud

[lapis latch]

druid needs a complete rework to be honest

[shut kite]

would be interesting if they added like a 0.5 second animation to shape shifting- seeing people switch between all the different forms almost instantly is kind of insane

[lapis latch]

i think instant cast is ok but there should be a cd to switch again

[shut kite]

that could work too

[violet tree]

If two players in solo work together to kill a boss, can only one get kill credit?

[wheat summit]

yes

[shut kite]

so shrine of protection makes you completely invulnerable? I had a barb rush me and tank a fireball to the face, missed my first one because he was teleporting all over the room with lag but he had maximum health when I went to spectate

just trying to make sense of what the fuck happened and how they took zero damage

[tropic anchor]

I think the other gets boss assist (which doesnt help missions)

[slow bobcat]

I was reading the impact power wiki, and I don't believe that it specifies block stagger for weapons. Does anyone know the stagger durations for the quarterstaff specifically? Thanks

[grand shadow]

when does the season end?

[orchid fulcrum]

if you still need help pricecheck lmk i like to play the market :3

[vagrant frost]

how does armor rating work exactly? and where can I find detailed info on it?

[noble barn]

wrong ping 😦

[graceful anvil]

is ghost king not teleporting to center for its jump new and intended or is that a bug?

[orchid fulcrum]

Sorry @noble barn it was for @violet tree if still need help with pricecheck lmk jeje

[orchid fulcrum]

If you have enough DPS can skip that phase

[graceful anvil]

i'm fully aware, not the question. we got 3 screams off in a row and then it started the jump animation right on top of us instead of going to center.

[orchid fulcrum]

Oh, never happens to me so i think it was a bug

[turbid pine]

bug
I've done maybe 10 or 15 gk runs but I've only seen it happen once

[graceful anvil]

good to know thanks

[tropic anchor]

btw when are they wiping?

[wheat cairn]

Question does Gold count toward AP and if so how much?

[minor tendon]

#dev-qna

[untold cosmos]

does warlock curse of pain stack with other warlocks

[exotic ermine]

broken/gone/middle of the map for some reason

[fossil pollen]

no

[full minnow]

Found it in the end, next to the spawn room upstairs on the bookshelf. It is a red book on a bookshelf. What was weird is that this book was not there for my duo partner (same run) so it seems like a bug makes it sometimes disappear or it is client specific if it spawns which is weird.

[void raft]

shoul i get skeleton or lizardd for fighter

[timber wraith]

lycan

[zenith copper]

I know as a f2p player I can only make 1 character. But it gives me the option to make another character anyway. Would doing that overwrite my current character?

[warm crane]

yes

[hushed junco]

Does anyone else keep running into the “connection to server has been lost” game crash?

[vernal ember]

I'd like to offer some suggestions here, I hope you can see them. I used a translation software so please forgive me if the meaning is not clear. As the person who defeated the boss, you should get some kind of buff (similar to the Tarkov-like game "Hunting") because it is easy to become the target of other players. I think there are some problems with the design of the treasure room. It should be designed to be more spacious and have some larger obstacles to allow people in the treasure room to have the possibility of escaping or pulling.

[exotic ermine]

it sometimes is broken and wont be there

Edit: didnt read all the reply, yea thats weird

[fossil pollen]

people would abuse it get the buff and then go pvp

[stuck galleon]

am i the only one who thinks it dumb that bear just one shots and thats its entire premise???

[stone haven]

can we get some cheaper ways to store gold. Nobody is using sks or gks because the pricing is outrageous due to players needing better ways to store gold.

[whole terrace]

Is it troll to buy magical healing on barbarian?

[fossil pollen]

makes no sense no

[stone haven]

Yea treasure room needs 2 exits and some more space.

[hazy violet]

Which class are you using that gets one shot by bear?

[wanton otter]

Dagger impact on longsword needs to be heavier, I can never get a proper parry, the window on super light swings is essentially frame perfect ;;

[coarse swan]

Whats happening guys why we slowly going down to 17K players

[spark wing]

Broken Druid ratting in HR

[stone haven]

Wipe was announced. About a month out.

[coarse swan]

Wipe brings more players not lose em

[empty latch]

no its cheaters with high damage cheat, as a barbarian full life and robust i got 1 tapped by bear in head in below 125 gs

[stone haven]

That’s just wrong. All games with wipe cycles have big spikes in players on wipe and then they slowly leave until the next wipe happens.

[stuck galleon]

slayer fighter and i know im exaggerating but bear needs a rework it shouldnt be about avoiding absolute zero damage from bear form or its check mate