game-discussion

[sterile meadow]

i'd think so, 3 second root? that's kinda nutty

[deft lintel]

hit snare, hit magic

[woven patrol]

The combo goes: treant, snare, disco party

[sterile meadow]

what's that spell called?

[woven patrol]

Moonfire beam

[sterile meadow]

oh shiiiit some moonkin action

[woven patrol]

Use it woth spiritual power peark for extra 5-10 damage

Also you see rogue? Or Ranger? As i said become a rat go behind them quickly shift to human and shove that club in their … you got the point

Thw ridiculous part of snare is that you don’t even need to hit it, enough to just step on it even if you missed lol

[spare elbow]

Its easy to see if they dont come from behind you but impossible to hit without aoe

[sterile meadow]

cheers for the kickstart on my druid knowledge!

[sweet imp]

when are we getting rewards from season 2?

also will the merchants be getting more quests soon? I want to spawn with better armour lol

[sterile meadow]

i can't seem to find moonfire beam. only thing i see is Dreamfire

[tawdry skiff]

guys when does the steam beta end?

[jagged galleon]

yo is there a tier list for new patch since fighter got nerfed for sprint

[vapid arch]

no one's going to have a comprehensive list of what's good and bad and why after 12 hours into a wipe

[vapid arch]

they did it weekly last wipe

[stark matrix]

whats the best classes right now?
with the updates

[burnt marlin]

It's not a beta it's a release. You can play free for as long as you want you just can't play hr, trade, or have more than one character

[tawdry skiff]

ohh i see,ty sir

[tawdry skiff]

sorry,what is hr?)

[burnt marlin]

High roller. It's the mode that allows you to take in better than common gear

[tawdry skiff]

ty

[sterile meadow]

wait normal mode is common gear only?

[tawdry skiff]

but can i play with friend in normal?

[left fiber]

so hows shapeshifting for pvp in yalls opinions?

[tawdry skiff]

i guess u have lower chance to get better gear

[vapid arch]

yes

[sonic plover]

still my first day and i cant say for certain until i get into high roller and see how better gear changes things, but im enjoying it for sure.

[sterile meadow]

that's an amazing decision, damn.

[deft lintel]

CRACKED if done correctly

panther is a GLASS CANNON, each point of agi gives 1 (or 2 for bite) weapon damage

[vestal silo]

what is the point of diminishing returns for knowledge stacking in terms of spell casting speed?

[sonic plover]

Panther is a great form. Idk how i feel about bear yet though

Bear kinda just feels like you have toface tank whatever you are attacking

[slender thicket]

Guys how to escape forgotten castle now?

[sonic plover]

Too slow to dodge stuff while also moving close enough to attack, in pve. In pvp, it seems viable in a face tanking brawler sense. Cast barkskin, shift into bear and use its wild ability, and just start slappin. Might come out on top.

[vapid arch]

all stats have diminishing returns so you can't dump everything into one stat and one shot with strength, have max move speed with agility, have 1000 health with vigor, 100 action speed with dex, or insta cast with knowledge

[burnt marlin]

Yeah of course

[worthy abyss]

no zone is so heat

PLEASE

[sonic plover]

gotta keep an eye out for stairs on the map or listen for portals. Portals seem very rare now as ive only seen 1 portal all day.

[slender thicket]

okay, thanks

[lusty falcon]

Hi. Can someone explain to me why bear is no-dmg? it seems it's str based to it needs proper items to be playable. But as a bear early it feels more like a stepping on a lego dmg taken.

[sonic plover]

Its more of a tank than a damage dealer, but I personally think the damage is pretty okay.

[vestal silo]

im not asking for the reason why there is diminish returns. Im asking what is the threshold

[vapid arch]

oh like 40 or something

[burnt marlin]

There are also blue stone circles on the ground that are a guaranteed portal spawn so if you wait around they will show up

[vapid arch]

check wizard channel

[sterile meadow]

is the lycan race worth the tradeoff?

[vapid arch]

not really

better to go lizard

[vestal silo]

ok ty

[sonic plover]

yo hold up. I just found this base gear thing on the squire. You can change your base gear up a little bit? Thats awesome.

[sterile meadow]

better than having a helmet?

[vapid arch]

lizard is better in normals but if you have a class that has good helmets then no

the only class you'll see taking lizard in HR is barb and maybe fighter

[sterile meadow]

i'm dabbling a little with druid

[sand cosmos]

hey, does anyone know why gold ore was removed from Inferno on the castle map?
i cant find it on any of the patch notes

[spare elbow]

Check out an excerpt from this NEGATIVE steam review “i put 500+ hours on this game but i cant recommend it” bro thinks 500 hours of entertainment is not worth $30, the age of gamer entitlement is here

[vapid arch]

if they haven't changed it then gold is still only in inferno, along with rubysilver

[sand cosmos]

nope

i've checked every location

[vapid arch]

dunno then, they also dont have crafting yet so maybe they're doing it all together along with the ice material

[neon plank]

Yeah, they're all brain rot tbh.

NEw plAyErS aRE sUrPrIsEd bY PAy wAlL. It literally tells you you can't play hr/use looted gear on the store page bozo.

[spare elbow]

Do tou need to download it ons team to leave a review? Im trying to counter some of these absolute bogus negative reviews with a positive one. I can understand being disappointed about the free to play bait but people being leaving negative after hundreds of hours of play is wild

[vapid arch]

the issue is that its advertised as f2p and then has more details in the fine print

[heady thunder]

did they remove the other quests from the game or do you get them later

[neon plank]

It's hardly fine print but ok

Gamer fine print™️
See play now button hit play now button

[spare elbow]

They shouldve marketed it as trial or free demo to be fair, wouldve been more accurate

[formal moon]

IM engages in click bait method

[deft lintel]

The best term I heard so far was “starter edition”

[stark matrix]

is druid good?

[neon plank]

They did market it that way but no one knows how to read I guess... by your guys logic they also aren't marketing as early access.

[spare elbow]

I hesitate to call it clickbait but they couldve expected the negativity around it. Free to play is not a hard defined term. Different games handle it differently, this could be one acceptable way to offer free to play. Imo its much better than giving everyone the game fully free and then making money on lootboxes and pushey battle passes

[vapid arch]

its ok for a game/company you like to make mistakes

they dropped the ball on this one, maybe not as hard as people think but they still made a mistake

[neon plank]

It literally has a hard definition on the steam store page

[pale granite]

do i have to buy legendary status to go high roller dungeons?

[torpid scaffold]

they really should market for gen alpha brainrotten attention deficency kids then so they wouldnt have to read or even think and just know what they get

[neon plank]

FREE-TO-PLAY VERSION!
The Free-to-Play version allows players to create one character and play Normal mode on all maps, complete quests, and build a stash of loot! Players who enjoy their time with the free version and want to experience everything the game has to offer can upgrade to the full version for 15 Redstone shards. The full version of the game includes access to the High-Roller mode, where players can equip their hard earned gear to take on even more dangerous dungeons and up the stakes. Players will also gain access to the marketplace where they can trade with other adventurers, 9 total character slots, and the Shared Stash!

We hope that this version will give players a chance to experience some of what Dark and Darker has to offer, and to give players who have not played since the playtests a chance to see what's new before they dive into the full edition.

[remote light]

is anyone else experiencing stuttering? it's hard for me to fight because as soon as i close the distance the game starts stuttering. this has not happened before. I;m also freezing for 3-5 seconds at a time randomly.

[vapid arch]

when the first thing in big bold letters is "FREE TO PLAY" people immediately start thinking its free entirely
you're expecting the brain rot generation to read several paragraphs
either way it could've been articulated better

[neon plank]

windowed full screen maybe.. maybe look into clearing shader cache if you have an nvidia graphics card

[remote light]

thank you!

[brazen finch]

Instant transform perk is kinda op

[spare elbow]

Idk if you were talking to me i was just saying free to play as a general term does not have a hard definition, not that dark and darker did not clearly define their ftp on their page

[neon plank]

just venting my frustrations into the void

[neon plank]

is it? what are you swapping between to make it op?

[hearty geode]

Anybody running feral druid? I'm wondering if a certain stat would increase Thorn Coat's damage

[brazen finch]

Retreating with a rat and based on the enemy i use bear or panther

[spare elbow]

Mostly just seen people in normies use rat mode to escape

[chilly steeple]

What classes ppl been running haven’t played in a year

[brazen finch]

Pretty easy to ambush with a rat too

[hearty geode]

I'm having a helluva time playing druid, my buddies are both playing warlocks

[neon plank]

im too afraid to use rat mode now that regen is fixed lol.. seems pointless but probably fine for pvp at range

[topaz warren]

i think trap dissarm should all be common

[hearty geode]

I've died about 4 times now running into spikes in a dark room while playing rat lol, watch out for that shit

[neon plank]

lol yea

[brazen finch]

i wonder if its possbiel to hit a rat with an arrow

[neon plank]

it is 😦

[spare elbow]

Possible not same as feasible though

[topaz warren]

pather can wipe a rat quick

[brazen finch]

some insane hiding spots with a rat

[neon plank]

has anyone used soul bond though?

[inner elbow]

i cant shapeshift into a human, only lizardman

[topaz warren]

i hate when u are a rat and die ur loot stays in rat form you can die in a dead boddie and not get there loot

[spare elbow]

Lol rats earn a rats fate

[neon plank]

thatll be good when we have loot protection in place... are we still getting a loot protection system?

[vapid arch]

its already in place

goblin merchant - services

[neon plank]

oh shit

[modest mirage]

Still no druid class channel

[wheat skiff]

How df does the storm work, portal are hard af to find

[flat badger]

did they add linking yet

[spare elbow]

I think its mostly static exits now instead of circle pressuring for random exits

[cosmic swan]

#q-and-a message For the storm it does different thing but start doing little damage around 4 min left, big damage around 1min 30 and your almost sure to die after 10 sec remaning and die at 0

[quiet nexus]

how do i link my account if i bought it on blacksmith

[vapid arch]

you can't yet

[cosmic swan]

Cant yet, we have to wait a bit they're working on it

[wheat skiff]

thx !

[quiet nexus]

why cant you

[cosmic swan]

Np 👍

[quaint veldt]

i rolled a bag

[cosmic swan]

The feature is not ready wait

[queen nimbus]

[rocky current]

I think the ruins should still have circle, either that or make the "stairs" spawn at different locations every round, as is its kinda predictable

[quiet nexus]

i hate the new portal system

[brazen finch]

what does inflicting agility/resourcefulness 100 * mean on the animals

[wheat skiff]

i think that old zone was better, more pvp

[tender sail]

Does anyone know if lantern shields come in common? I've only gotten greens so far

[drowsy hound]

How many portal per trio games?

[tender sail]

I love pvp in this game but ring was garbage. It wasn't fun.

[cosmic swan]

Don't know yet, the only one a saw were triple portal tho

[burnt marlin]

There are blue stone circles on the ground where portals will spawn they just take awhile before they spawn

[burnt marlin]

Yes, they're pretty rare though

[sterile meadow]

just got a tripple kill by sacrificing my meat shield teammate

[burnt marlin]

I think they want to have the arena for more PVP which I don't think will be good

[wheat skiff]

yeah but pvp is part of the game, in my opinion dark and darker is about pvpve

[quiet nexus]

any tips on solo runs? ive been playing since day 1 EA but i still suck and i dont have any friends to play with

[brazen finch]

how does the portals on the floor work

[sterile meadow]

there's always the gathering hall. might not make for great teammates but makes for amazing decoys

[vapid arch]

learn maps maps and learn spacing

[quiet nexus]

just learn maps 4head

[flint drum]

it makes no sense that it became free to play? i mean we only can play normal and in normal u only can use the base gear so
what's the point?

[sterile meadow]

they failed to call it trial version. you get to try the game for free and buy the full version if you like it

[flint drum]

bruh they could have just let us play for 1-2 days and then have to buy it

[tender sail]

The only sensible complaint about f2p mode is the 72 hour lockout after purchasing.

[flint drum]

but why would u purchase?

u only can play normal its only let me play with base gear

[flint surge]

fix tavern error 23 pleas! havnt been able to login on dark and darker for days now. even steam client gives same error. cant enter the game at all.

[flint drum]

i cant bring a single potion

[wary stump]

I just am tired of there being the crappy gear limits in normals, do gear mmr limits instead

[muted pagoda]

getting error code 23. ticket was in but they closed it without supporting. theres been no answer on how to fix and ive had a dozen others reach out with the same issue. anyone able to help?

[wary stump]

Then the game is accessible to everyone

[wild marlin]

Honestly a gear score limit would work

Has to be low though

[sterile meadow]

could add that to high roler honestly. i'm fine with gray gear for normal games, makes it feel level

[native loom]

Do you have to do something to get plate on squire for fighter? It use to be there at the start without doing quests,

[grand jungle]

i need help how can i transfer?

cause i dont want to buy the legendary status if i can transfer...

[sterile meadow]

they said it'll take a few days to implement and to play on their launcher til they fix it

[rocky salmon]

prob armoursmith quests when they're unlocked

[noble gull]

Dm me i got you plus we could use a solid 3rd

[floral pecan]

TIL you can press G to recover up to your true hp, that makes this a bit easier lol

[flint surge]

fix tavern error 23 pleas! havnt been able to login on dark and darker for days now. even steam client gives same error. cant enter the game at all.

[south blaze]

If I bought the early access game, can I use steam now instead?

[solid finch]

Need to use original launcher until account linking is fixed

[south blaze]

is that a question of days or months? :D

[solid finch]

Probably days, check #📢announcements

[south blaze]

ok, thank you :)

[night jungle]

Everytime I try to log in with blacksmith it says "server error (2)"

[nocturne furnace]

Guys havenpt played in a while.. how the hell do you extract now ??

[unreal obsidian]

Still banned for absolutely no reason. Game crashed in the lobby and it says I’m banned for 3 days. My friends say it was because of my bad internet

[stoic fog]

can i already link my account with steam?

[rapid vapor]

they're working on it

[stoic fog]

ah okay thanks

[floral pecan]

bardiches should count as axes

[rapid vapor]

portals still spawn but in designated spots that are like blue circles on the ground. most maps also have static escapes too

[half vessel]

is pre-lobby removed?? im still getting them

[stray skiff]

why is the game labeled as a free to play, what a shame

goblin marketing tactic this shit rly stinks

[rapid vapor]

people can make 1 character and play normals for free

[spare elbow]

Is it not free to play?

[warm tendon]

If they said X price, people wouldn't realize they can play it for free. I do agree it's a bit weird but I do not see how else they oculd have done it.

[warm sky]

yeah but there no reason the core of the game is to use better items that you extract

[stray skiff]

yea but u definitely get to play like only 10% of the game

[warm sky]

the system they used is predetory its borderline false advertisment

[stray skiff]

u can jus see it as a bait

[pallid compass]

By simply adding a upgrade pack saying (full game upgrade) on the steam page it would of fixed all the negative reviews

[spare elbow]

Howso? You can play for free. The game is free to play. Sorry you cant waste money on lootboxes 😂

[warm sky]

imagine i didnt know the system and i bought a skin for 5$ then i come the the knowledge that i have a 10th of a game

[warm tendon]

I'm not very familiar with steam, I only play a hand full of games myself but if that's a possibility they are no doubt looking at it.

[pallid compass]

No you can’t play it for free , the loot you extract with is useless because it’s for high roller and high roller is locked behind a pay wall

[stray skiff]

exactly

[warm sky]

yeah its not play for free its a demo

[spare elbow]

You cant enter a match snd play the game?

[stray skiff]

so the whole point of the game is gone

[warm tendon]

Not advertising but isn't it a bit like Runescape, it's free to play but you only get to play a small portion of the game?

[spare elbow]

You are still playing for free dawg 😂 yall would rather have lootboxes, battlepasses, and pay to win. Really sad age of gaming we live in

[stray skiff]

man do you have a poop inside ur head

[warm tendon]

That I do agree with, playing just normals kinda defeats the purpose.

[pallid compass]

That’s not the point , you can enter and play old school RuneScape for free you can also play world of Warcraft for free up until you need to pay to have access to the rest of the game

[warm sky]

its a light of a Indian Giver

[spare elbow]

Free to play. You get to play for free. Nothing misleading about it except that most other free to play games give you full access and then push borderline gambling addiction content at you. This system is 1000x less predatory and would actually hold up in countries with bans on that stuff

[stray skiff]

whippin

[warm sky]

less predotory???

[pallid compass]

The point of the game is that it’s an extraction game what’s the point in extracting if you can’t use the gear

[jagged furnace]

can we link ironmace to steam yet

[stray skiff]

^ @spare elbow

[spare elbow]

Right so its very similar to WoWs system which ive never seen called a bad system and it is the most popular and profitable MmO in the world lol

[warm tendon]

Yeah I much rather see this way of a free to play than what all the other studios are doing. Maybe they can relabel it to having a free Trial Mode or something?

[warm sky]

my guy i would rather have an energy bar like a mobile game than giving me 10% of a game

[spare elbow]

You have all been conditioned to love lootboxes and battlepasses, this is going back to a much older style of game trail/full game purchase. This is how successful gaming companies used to market their games.

[pallid compass]

Stop playing devils advocate nobody agrees with you I understand you like the game but you don’t need to ride this hard

[short cargo]

bruh

[warm sky]

"lootboxes and battlepass" bro they have skins at this point its a matter of time that they are going to implement a battlepass

[spare elbow]

Its not devils advocate to say WoW is the most successful mmo in the world and uses almost the exact same trial process

[jagged furnace]

if youre too poor to afford the game just admit it

[short cargo]

if youre too rich to get the game for me do it

[native loom]

Anyone know the times of the Goblin Cave extract, is it even worth waiting there near after the timer reaches 3 minutes,

[warm sky]

nah it not about me being poor its about the way that the dev false advertised

[prime maple]

reminder that rangers are easy mode garbage and that chicken form is best druid form

[real kelp]

normal and high roller should have a gear score cap and minimals like 300+ high roller below normals

[spare elbow]

I would love for every game to use a trial process like this lets you get a feel for the game before buying. Free to play is only misleading because of what gamers have been conditioned to expect from free to play. But it is not a hard defined term by any means and doesnt inherently mean full access.

[jagged furnace]

its not false advertisement, its a f2p model that gives more than most games when it comes to f2p, go cry about it some more.

[pallid compass]

Buddy the problem isn’t that you have to pay the problem is the f2p was advertised as a f2p , you go on their website and there’s a BIG PLAY FREE NOW button , only once you’re in the game
You understand that the game isn’t f2p on top of that using shards for upgrading the game is scummy because it Dosent transfer to someone else’s currency its 30 US and only 30US can you imagine how people in other poorer countries might feel ? Having to pay a weekly paycheck to play the game the way it’s intended ?

[jagged furnace]

go play gw2 f2p or daoc f2p then come back.

[stray skiff]

only goblins here are the ones who decided to do this poop marketing tactic

[flint surge]

tavern error code 23, any solutions?

[prime maple]

dude just stop being in a poor country that isnt their fault

[last plume]

jo does anyone know how to escape in hell (howling crypts) ... because portals are not spawning anymore.. atleast i didnt find any

[prime maple]

they dont seem to be in goblin caves either =/.

[warm tendon]

They should still be spawning.

[spare elbow]

Im confused are you upset about the price, or upset you get to try the game completely free of charge?

[jagged furnace]

if someone lives in a country that poor maybe they should save their money up and move to america instead of blowing it on video games.

[last plume]

in gc you have a ton of static exits

[prime maple]

good to know ty

[warm tendon]

They are still in GC, but way less than before.

[prime maple]

why is ur discord name like that

[last plume]

you see it on the map when there pops sth upp in blue

[nocturne idol]

anyone else getting a server error when trying to login through the blacksmith launcher?

[fleet patrol]

please add more bard passives they are all bad

[green parrot]

such a trash bait

[pallid compass]

Are you clueless ? The whole point is the game was badly advertised and all they had to do is add a “upgrade to full game” button on the steam page and everything woulda been ok

[vagrant furnace]

Bro who in poor countries is spending their paycheck on a video game lmao dumb

[jagged furnace]

not bait at all lmao

[prime maple]

ur clueless. there literally isnt any problem with how theyre doing it. you're just barking.

[flint surge]

tavern error code 23, any solutions?

[spare elbow]

Entitled gamers be entitled. Go enjoy your lootbox games fam

[green parrot]

oh so you mean move to a country where you have to pay for an ambulance? sure buddy LUL

[pallid compass]

this community has to be one of the stupidest community I’ve ever seen wtf 😭

[jagged furnace]

if you go through hte us border illegally you get a lot of money and free housing/food. youll have plenty of money to buy this game if you do it.

[vagrant furnace]

Atleast the ambulance players can buy a video game jajajaja

[noble zodiac]

@jagged furnace have you ever left america? Sure doesnt sound like it

[jagged furnace]

and ive never had to pay for an ambulance because i have this nifty new thing called health insurance

[prime maple]

are u ok?

[green parrot]

bro you have no idea how out of touch you sound. also i have 1,400 hrs dont know who u talking to

[pallid compass]

This game is gonna shut down in the next coming months enjoy it while it lasts the reviews speak for themselves

[last plume]

well GS doesnt say that you are tanky^^

[jagged furnace]

youve mistaken me for someone that cares

[green parrot]

same tbh

[pallid compass]

If there wasn’t a problem the game wouldnt be heading for negative reviews 🤦🏻‍♂️

[prime maple]

the game isnt tho lol ur just whining

[jagged furnace]

just saying, if you live in a poor country stop wasting your money on video games and save up and move to a less poor country like america where you can get the game working less than a days wage.

[pallid compass]

Yes because America is known to hand out visas

[flint surge]

tavern error code 23, any solutions?

[pallid compass]

If you’re homeless just buy a house ass logic

[spare elbow]

Lol 3x player count from last wipe i think theyre doing fine

[jagged furnace]

you clearly havent been paying attention the last four years

[prime maple]

last i heard there was over 6k people playing. this game has lobby sizes of what. 20 people tops? its freaking fine lol. stop crying

people will come b ack for the wipe anyways

[pallid compass]

I wonder why maybe because they have a play free button now just wait until all free players leave cuz of how bad this was handled

[green parrot]

say that you never worked a single day in your life without saying that you never worked a single day of your life

[flint surge]

tavern error code 23, any solutions?

[prime maple]

man idk w hy we're debating a guy with monkey d luffy as his name. losing battle lol.

[spare elbow]

Yeah bud go buy more lootboxes and have fun!

[jagged furnace]

i bought all my races by just playing the game, git gud

[pallid compass]

You have to be satire 😭 not once in my life I spent a penny on a loot box

[prime maple]

the way he used satire smh.

[nova sphinx]

i have 137 fame on my Rogue but 0 reward tokens 😮 wtf ironmace

[flint surge]

tavern error code 23, any solutions?

[odd gazelle]

Have they added in platform link fully yet

[flat badger]

druid is so much fun

[spare elbow]

So you just wanna play games for free and not spend money on them? How you expect them to keep the game running?

[pallid compass]

When did I ever say that what are you dense ?

[spare elbow]

Bro jus wants lootbox games so he never has to pay for videogames. Let the gambling addicts pay for his games. Wild

[pallid compass]

I said all they had to do is add a”upgrade to full game “ option on their steam page and the game wouldn’t be heading for negative reviews on steam

Wtf are you rambling about

[obtuse ermine]

Anyone knows when last season's reward will be unlocked?

[jagged furnace]

people are just very ungrateful

[spare elbow]

Yea you are partly right they overestimated the intelligence level of the average gamer.

[pallid compass]

This guy is obsessed with loot boxes

[odd gazelle]

Anyone know where to find the link code

[obsidian stag]

Does anyone knows how to go to the new map ?

[warm tendon]

What if they made a Light and Lighter version of the game that is Free to Play but very Light on content, still using the same backend and servers, just a different name.

[spare elbow]

Ice abyss you wait till the black abyss parts on the map that you can jump into and die turn red. At that point when you jump in it takes you to ice abyss

[prime maple]

he'd still complain

[pallid compass]

I’m not partially** right I am right . They updated the description saying it’s not the full experience later yesterday when they realized the reviews were going downhill

[obtuse ermine]

options, platform, but its locked RN

[obsidian stag]

uhmm sounds like a troll lmao

[spare elbow]

Well good thing they responded to the community sentiment and made it more clear for players!

[prime maple]

they said before they even released f2p that it would be a trimmed version of the game without high rollers and shit. if people dont know and are jumping to conclusions. its their fault 100%.

[warm tendon]

No thats how it works.

[obsidian stag]

Ohhh ok

[odd gazelle]

Ahh thank you I just reformatted all my storage saw dnd was in steam so I downloaded it here guess I’ll wait for the link to be active

[obsidian stag]

So I just wait and jump in the void ?

[random wren]

It's stuck on "Connecting...", is there a way to fix this?

[obtuse ermine]

Anyone knows when last season's reward will be unlocked?

[spare elbow]

I have t done it myself but this is what i heard

[warm tendon]

Yes the void should start glowing purple-ish and looking a bit like a thunder in the sky I guess.

[obsidian stag]

All right thank you bro 🙂

[mild topaz]

Is there any chances that the game will have any changes in "legendary status" perks? So players that didn't buy this status could play high roller dungeons for example?

[sinful gull]

What these people dont understand is that you are actually pro Ironmace and have their best interest in mind. People just dont want to realize that it doesnt matter if the reviews come from idiots they are still bad for DaD, steam release, f2p and we have less players than at the start of last season ? what are they talking about "everything is allright"? this is a massive problem IM has to act fast.

[warm tendon]

Was playing normals, literally the entire lobby died to mobs. All the new people is so much fun.

[pallid compass]

Finally someone with a brain

I actually enjoy the game and I don’t mind paying the upgrade I’m just saying where they went wrong In term of a business perspective

And the mistakes are evident through community feedback

[sudden dagger]

wait, so is the ice wyvern in the game? i see people asking about attack patterns and stuff?

[vapid arch]

yes

[limber atlas]

So how does Gbmm work rn?

[sudden dagger]

but ice hell isn't in the game yet right? or are there down portals in ice cave im missing?

[vapid arch]

the down portals are the giant holes in the bottom zones of the map, they turn red and when they do you jump in to get to abyss

[sudden dagger]

huh.... ok

[sinful gull]

False advertising is no joke. If you were around youd knew that IM isnt trying to deceive anyone, this is a giant PR fail, but it is still misleading advertising at least.

[gaunt crypt]

Its frustrating to extract with loot and not beeing able to use it

[pallid compass]

From what I understand nobody regardless of the account is allowed “better loot” in the normal game mode you need high roller wich is unlocked at level 20 but still only accessed by premium accounts

[sinful gull]

And I genuinedly dont think they did anyone wrong, but it is just blatantly obvious that you will get reviewbombed if you dont make it clear in the title. Free or not people feel like you wasted their time and be upset.

[pallid compass]

I wouldn’t think they were trying to deceive anyone , I just think This was badly handled like I said just adding a “upgrade to full game” button on the steam page woulda sufficed

[sudden dagger]

You don't want people to min/max you with market and stat check you in normals. you should first try to get money for your second stash, extract with usable white gear and sell your green gear for money, imo. if you do this it will set you up for future gameplay. if you don't do this, you're sort of just gaining experience and learning the game.

[graceful storm]

If you think it would be fun you should get the full game 😉

[glad fern]

Wouldn't this all be solved if free to play could only play in specific queues that could only get to level 10 with gear only up to uncommon/rare or something like that?

[sudden dagger]

i don't think they should havee released FTP only on steam. That in itself was a bit of a misfire.

[half vessel]

I can't invite a friend on steam when im running blacksmith. Is this intentional...? Or am I confused

[sudden dagger]

you'll have to use their IGN

[half vessel]

I tried multiple times, I couldnt invite him (player not found) and he couldnt invite me to party using my in game name

[sudden dagger]

what's his name?

[vapid arch]

are you searching for character name or account name?

[half vessel]

character name

[vapid arch]

you have to search account name

[sinful gull]

Yeah the reviewbombing was obvious considering the toxicity in discord at times and ddos attacks and all. And if they do it, there should be 2 seperate entries in the steam store for "demoF2P" and the main game.

[half vessel]

How would you even know your account name? My blacksmith uses an email. We talking about about steam account name?

nvm figured it out. Thanks King Floppa

[sudden dagger]

when you started the game it asked you to make an account name, if you look at your player list it tells you what yours is over your status

[night jungle]

are the servers down for anyone else?

[old torrent]

i dont get why the f2p players are so ungrateful

they be complaining why the game is not fully free

[graceful storm]

I haven't read any of the reviews myself yet, but I did not think people would actually cry about being able to play normals for free seems like a decent move. That might be better

[deft haven]

ngl the mobs have too much hp

[old torrent]

your just bad

or have bad weapon

it doesn't take me many swings to kill goblins and such

[graceful storm]

Some mobs are higher grade than others, they're hard you're not bad

[deft haven]

exactly

[odd pier]

If i deleted the character i earned my rewards on last season, is it gone forever? This is my 2nd season and i didnt like my barbs name so i wanted to delete and change it and my friend said i was screwed cuz i need to claim the rewards on that character

[ancient lotus]

still nothing for the bug of the account upgrade?

[deft lintel]

Last season that did indeed fk some people. I think they fixed it since, but can't be sure

[odd pier]

oh man i hope so but okay thank you for the info

[sudden dagger]

Probably

[manic shell]

white to blue gear is a gap, but not that of a huge gap, and since normal mode you can get blue gear rather easily, you can get them within first 30 second, why dont just make normal mode limit gear up to blue tier gear, but also limit the drop from there only to blue tier gear, that will fix f2p fiasco and review bombing on steam, everyone will be happy.

[odd pier]

sad. they should really put a warning if they arent going to deliver the rewards immediately. i figured i would just be able to claim it on my new barb

[ancient lotus]

pray they will really fix the bug "shortly" 😦

[sudden dagger]

you don't understand what you're saying. lol, unless you've been part of testing, this is just not a good idea. the gap becomes too big then you have EVERYONE complaining about OP stat checking.

[manic shell]

ive been part of the testing, but you are right, maybe im not from the alpha playtest #1, i only follow the game since alpha playtest #2

[sudden dagger]

then you should be familiar with up to blues only in Normals, and Greens. The same issues occured.

[manic shell]

maybe you are from alpha playtest #1 and this is huge problem back then, idk about that, but alpha playtest #2 and on, it is a gap, but unlike purple and up gap.

[vapid arch]

they did exactly this around september last year and it resulted in the same problem of people getting bis blues and gear diffing everyone else

[woven patrol]

right it is dreamfire hehe

[fringe laurel]

um does everyone in the party need to be legendary or just the party lead to play highrollers

[manic shell]

yeah, this free to play fiasco need to be solved still, otherwise it hurt the game more than the normal mode limit solve.

especially after steam release, new people just dont understand why its limited on normal mode.

[sudden dagger]

just because people don't understand doesn't mean we should break the game to appease them.

[flat badger]

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU FIND PORTALS NOW

[manic shell]

the game is already broken, less people ive seen played the game, and lower on last wipe.

now lots of people, but for how long.

[sudden dagger]

they have little stone circles on the floor in crypts, and goblin caves. everything else is a static escape now, there are more static escapes now, so you'll have to just clear rooms with a static and then gaurd it to leave.

[manic shell]

yeah, maybe we need green blue matchmaking.

[spare elbow]

Just queued up and 5 people running around clucking in chicken form… game is going to be fine 😂

[primal raven]

i think they made less portals spawn but added some more statics in gobby caves, and ice caves have only statics

myb someone answered before me 😦

[manic shell]

i hope so, last wipe kinda suck to see on the last day, not many people on my server 😦

[fringe laurel]

does everyone in party need to be legendaery to play highroller dungeons

[spare elbow]

Yea i was worried game was dying last wipe but i have hope now

[sudden dagger]

can you VPN to NA? cause NA has good que times

[spare elbow]

Just running one match on free to play account so i can leave a positive review. I find it sad people with 500+ hours are leaving a negative review lol

[sudden dagger]

you don't have to run a match, you might've screwed up your chance to link your account if you did

[manic shell]

NA is fine, ive played there last season, little bit lag, but its still fine, ill try vpn to NA again later if my server dies again.

[spare elbow]

I dont care about linking my account, but they said in announcements ignore the part about last chance to link

[manic shell]

sdf clear it up to ignore that message

[sudden dagger]

oh, alrighht lol, i didnt see that

[lapis nymph]

is gbmm still a thing?

[spare elbow]

Ive had blizzard launcher since before i even had steam, so im used to having many launchers

[sharp stream]

Anyone know how to migrate from chaf games launcher to steam without having to pay again?

[manic shell]

its not implemented yet, wait for new announcement when its done.

[late musk]

there isnt tps on duo? wtf

[sudden dagger]

tps? wdym

[pallid compass]

Like a month or two if they don’t fix everything

[sharp stream]

probably a week or 2 tbh

[pallid compass]

I’m being generous the game is fun I enjoy it more than tarkov

[late musk]

i play the game months ago and now im playing with a friend, but we dont know how to escape now haha 0 tps on map

[fathom yacht]

Is there still exit portals? I played like 20 games and I cant find any

[jagged sequoia]

if I have legendary status, i'm allowed to bring my f2p friend to play high roller with me?

[sharp stream]

same. dont like tarkov at all

[sudden dagger]

ooooh, yeah so there are static ones now, you have to find on map or there are circles that have them, always in same spot

[sharp stream]

@pallid compass did you used to play garrys mod? think i know you. lol

[pallid compass]

When I was young yeah

[manic shell]

tps... short for teleporters, to get out...

[sharp stream]

lol wtf. do you remember me?

[late musk]

ohhhh ok, thanks mate

[pallid compass]

I don’t think so I played Garry’s mod like 4 years ago again

[sharp stream]

NTG with phish and brassx? right?

[pallid compass]

Dosent ring a bell ngl 😭

I think you got the wrong dude 😔

[sharp stream]

ah okay. must have been someone else with the same name

[flat badger]

will they add the circle back ever?? the game is a lot worse now

[pallid compass]

I only recently put my dc name as luffy so prolly

[sand cosmos]

when do we get our leaderboard rewards? anyone know why have we not recieved these already?

[jaunty relic]

Is there something I’m missing ? I can not figure out how to get into ice abyss ?

[warm tendon]

You need to yeet yourself into the void at a certain stage in the game.

[subtle heart]

Where the hell do I get my link code? F

[jaunty relic]

I can’t tell if your trolling lol

[warm tendon]

I believe it used to be somewhere on the darkanddarker.com website after you log in it would show. Not sure if this is still the case.

[subtle tapir]

hi guys, i have quests to hand in camp fires or bandages. I have a bunch in my inventory and yet when I click 'fill all items' nothing happens

[spare elbow]

They have ti be looted from the dungeon not purchased

[remote tree]

is there seperate gearscore highroller lobbies rn?

just curious if it's still 1-299 and 300+

[jade moat]

why are reward locked ? with no explication

[onyx coral]

hi guys, i just started playing and enjoying the game even though its only the free version 😄 I was wondering if the only way to increase my stats is only through gears and items?? and as cleric, is there a certain stats i need to prioritise?

[zealous lantern]

so are HR dungs perm back to needing gold to enter now?

[jade moat]

yes it is

[sand cosmos]

knowlege for the use of your spells, and will / magical power/bonus for added damage

and yes this is only acquirable by use for gear upgrades

[knotty igloo]

Do crypt and gc have reusable static extracts? Spending entire matches and finding two extracts

[onyx coral]

oh, thanks. Wow gonna be a long time before i can have proper gear then, I have played up to lv 11 and unable to yet cleared a single dungeon 🤣 no payday for me yet

[fathom yacht]

Where is the exit at gobil cave?

[spare elbow]

Marked on the map are blue for exits, if you are in a team you should look for the center room with 4 elevators, a big elevator spawns every few minutes that can take you all out. Most the other spots are single person/use extracts

If you get to elevator within the last 4 minutes there should be gaurenteed one more coming before time is out in my experience

[knotty igloo]

Does crypts have something similar?

[sand cosmos]

@onyx coral i've dmed you a bunch for stuff, hopefully that will help u

[fathom yacht]

Elevators are also marked?

[restive ibex]

FYI: the bugs at 5 minutes dont do damage to you but the bugs at <1m do damage. So stupid...

[signal nymph]

Anyone else having trouble hearing behind or is that just how it is now ?

[spare elbow]

The elevator spot is marked yes, and it is in the module at the center of the map

[jagged furnace]

do shields not block damage anymore?

[fathom yacht]

They do but u have to block them properly

[solid agate]

IIRC you can still get grazed in other limbs

[fathom yacht]

Weapons still can go over shield and hit u

[spare elbow]

If your shield has less impact resistance than their weapons impact power, it can hit you through. Otherwise hitting any part of you besides the shield during their swing will damage you also

[sand cosmos]

and the bugs at 10 seconds take 10hp per second lol

[restive thicket]

How the hell do you extract as a duo nowadays? No portals, only a one use staircase??

[river thicket]

There are portals

[spare elbow]

Heater shield has worst impact resist and only good for arrows and swords. Round shield is middle ground. Buckler best impact resist but small so can be hard to nail blocks

[sand cosmos]

ngl i'm loving the lantern sheild atm

[restive thicket]

Just died to the flies, do you need to go deeper to find them?

[river thicket]

They come out of the little red/blue circles around the map now, you'll notice some cracked ass looking stone on the ground with blue/red lines

[cosmic swan]

If you want info on how the exit work : #q-and-a message

[fathom yacht]

Can I trade with my party members if I have free account?

[spare elbow]

If you on goblin cave there are several single use exits and the center room also has an elevator that comes every few minutes and can extract full teams

[cosmic swan]

Nop, you can bring what you want to give them in game. Put it in your inventory and drop it on the floor. I think that's the only way

[manic shell]

no

[spare elbow]

Wont work with anything green or higher tho haha

[remote light]

HR is so empty ahaha

[cosmic swan]

If it's for quest item; most of them need to be extract from the donjon and can't be trade anyways. If you bring them back in the donjon and give them to your friend the item will become "Handled" and they won't work for quest

[spare elbow]

Its off hours for most of the playerbase, and i think many ftp in normal currently will buy and come to hr soon. Especially when ranked is up

[vapid arch]

not for ice caves it isn't

[cosmic swan]

It's normal, most of the new player are free to "play" or are more slower than the OG

[zealous lantern]

not many ppl gunna be lvl 20 yet/ it now costs gold so people gunna be more scared again lol

[sharp stream]

Does anyone know how to migrate from chaf games to blacksmith? chaf games gives me a migration code to copy but nowhere on blacksmith to use it. website or launcher

[cosmic swan]

How they let the 100g fee?

[zealous agate]

hey bro ，How can I open a three-person dragon boos?

[remote tree]

is there seperate gearscore highroller lobbies rn? 1-299 and 300+

[cosmic swan]

There is way with the good class, or you have to make buddy in the dungeon

[zealous agate]

Is there no other way?

I want three people to kill boos.

[steel steeple]

Just got killed through a stone door in hell by a melee attacker wtf

[spare elbow]

Yeah enemy swings go through obstacles unlike player swings, to prevent excess cheesing

[steel steeple]

:/

[primal zephyr]

thoughts on the circle being gone?

[remote tree]

is there seperate gearscore highroller lobbies rn? was it changed?

sorry meant to be posting in q and a

[plain hare]

is goblin archer for the quest broken?

[spare elbow]

Try not stand too close to doors when mobs are agro on you 🙂

[steel steeple]

Will do

[left spruce]

I get that they want all types of playstyles (exploration, looting, ext) But part of me finds it more exciting fighting other people for the last portal.

[primal zephyr]

yea there's no pvp on crypts and goblin caves

[steel steeple]

I agree but I sort of dislike the circle mechanic too, both have pros and cons

[primal zephyr]

it should be in HR tbh

[steel steeple]

This makes sense

[primal zephyr]

i know they removed it cuz of the f2p people wanting to try the game lol

[left spruce]

It pushed people to fight each other witch made more tense moments. Its my personal preference since I find the pvp to be the most exciting aspect.

[scenic hornet]

Need a way to get more pvp feel like a pve game rn xD

[steel steeple]

Makes sense, I enjoyed it too but now my team with my friends is a bunch of nonsense so maybe that's why.

[primal zephyr]

its a coop roguelike

[runic isle]

What are extra thick pelts used for ?

[left spruce]

Dose the squire give you more options like last patch or no? levl 16 and i feel like i should be seeing new stuff

[dark elk]

Need to do quests to get squire upgrades

[runic isle]

you need to do quests from merchants, to see more options

[left spruce]

ah thank you

[spare elbow]

Extra thiqq womens clothing

[graceful storm]

why do the archers always one shot rat, feels like they should miss like if you side step in normal form

[dark elk]

It's really wack u need 4 people go do the ice dragon

[marble tangle]

Rat deserves to be one shot by archers. So few ways to deal with it.

[queen nimbus]

🐀

[marble tangle]

🏹

[tidal kelp]

is the ice abyss in the game?

[queen nimbus]

NOOOO! 😦

[marble tangle]

Yeah it is. Search function gives more details.

[fathom yacht]

Will there ever be a discount for redstone shards or somehow to buy legendary status?

30 USD is too expensive in my country

[spare elbow]

Probably not any time soon, hopefully you can enjoy ftp to some degree for now

[queen nimbus]

30 USD? probably $40 CAD for me 😮

[young tide]

can use my blacksmith creds to log in with steam?

[warm tendon]

Dont think you can, not right now at least.

[marble tangle]

#📢announcements talks about this. tl;dr, "Soon"

[young tide]

ty

[spare elbow]

Hopefully not “druid soon”

[marble tangle]

"This season" soon.

[plain hare]

does lizard headshot redux work in animal forms?

[marble tangle]

Lizards are animals. Subhuman filth that should be put down.

[restive ibex]

Absolutely hate it and takes a lot if not most of the pvp out of the game, since players aren’t forced towards the same area. I’ve gone maybe 4+ runs as a trio without finding a single pvp encounter :/. Maybe just unlucky

[spare elbow]

Thats wild i was fighting 2-3 teams a match last night, then again i seek out the pvp and was playing mostly GC trios since we didnt want to wait rotation

So easier to find pvp without red stairs to leave on

[marble tangle]

Nah, that's definitely an effect of it. Less PVP. It's been that way on Ice Caverns since it came out. It's always been the less PVP centric map.

I'd suggest going to high value rooms and waiting around them. Spread your team out a bit and listen for people to hunt.

[restive ibex]

Yeah we are newer to gc and the frost map so we don’t quite know where to go to find teams

[spare elbow]

Idk playing hr ice caves last wipe i was also fighting 2-3 teams a match on average lol. Just depends how you play i guess. If youre going for the high value loot you run into people for sure

[steel steeple]

Can we get an option to mute the dogs barking in the menu already

[marble tangle]

That's what I just said. Go for the high value rooms, lol.

When the circle dictated where you went, you could find people elsewhere, and avoid 3rd-party central.

[floral heath]

how do you escape in cripts hell, i just died cause nothing spawned

[primal zephyr]

only map where no circle is good is the frost one since there's a mini boss and loot pile in the middle of the map, unless they removed that too?

[spare elbow]

There is a miniboss and loot pile on gc too haha

[primal zephyr]

its a boss not mini boss tbh

[worthy abyss]

anyone else wanna blow and pump their seed into the devs

[primal zephyr]

not many people go do it, just 1 person per run

[spare elbow]

Point stands to the effect of the circle

[green parrot]

no circle is goated for people learning the game, as people get better pvp will be more frequent towards the extracts

most players are dying to mobs 3 mins in anyways rn

[open temple]

😭😭

[spare elbow]

Yeah its funny remembering how tough the game is off the rip

[sudden dagger]

so you'd rather be pushed into a fight by a circle then. there will be an arena mode which will prioritize pvp. so i think they want these matches to focus less on pvp and more on adventuring a dungeon, maybe running into 1 or 2 other parties.

[jagged cape]

So i cant Savage roar FEAR the new HARPIE!??!?!?!? its a lady bird how is it not feared by a barb, ?!?!?!??!!??!

[sudden dagger]

lol. its a new mob, that may or may not be intentional

[primal zephyr]

yea i'd rather get pushed by the circle

arena sounds good for warming up

[marble tangle]

Problem is, now there are people with 500 hours playing the game. That wasn't the case back in the earlier tests, when everyone was learning. Feels bad, absolutely stomping the noobs who have no idea what to do.

It's genuinely entertaining to watch and spectate the new players that are trying to figure things out.
Game needs a better new player experience for sure now. Especially with blues no longer spawning randomly with a big notification about "1 Blue portal appeared".

[warm basin]

does thorn coat return dmg on every hit or is there a cooldown

[marble tangle]

Every hit.

[sudden dagger]

it's fine to want that, but i don't think its very healthy for player retention, most people want 1 or 2 fights, the best players are the ones "trying to wiipe the lobbies and be the last man standing" which is honestly a bit of a counterintuitive thing for a looter extraction game. That's more in-line with fortnite. which is only fair because everyone drops in with nothing.

[jagged cape]

fire w.e DEv made DREAMWALK , MEGA KEK to that passive, auto phase lmfao

[primal zephyr]

even with circle it was 3 fights max, this is only good for f2p new players

[sudden dagger]

um, depends on what mode you were playing, honestly i hated crypts, and running into 3 players, i was lucky if i lived after the 2nd one. so a 3rd one would almost garuntee my death.

[amber leaf]

40% positives reviews saying "Good game, but it's demo not F2P" won't help to grow bigger community too 😐
I also feeled dissapointment with "White Gear only" for Standard, and to be honest I won't plan to buy the full game as its in my opinion unrespectful advertising and marketing practise that dishonour players

I waited to get pay to play 30$ game, then "bam" I get Demo (F2P) with in game pursuare that allow to play normaly 😐

I love this game, play since early beta, but to be honest, that is not kind of practice I would accept

[sudden dagger]

don't feel like what you're saying is super relevant to the comment you replied to. Devs have done nothing wrong but just give you an opportunity to try the game without paying first.

[spare elbow]

I find it to be a great practice to get a free demo of a game so you can decide if the gameplay fits you before you pay for it. Only negative is calling it ftp was a bit misleading given most ftp games are full access with predatory microtransactions targeted at gambling addicts.

[amber leaf]

Yea, i know, and taht "missleanding" calling it F2P make the game had massive negative review already

And it's nothing about the developers team, but with stiupid decisions of CEo/Marketing team the game get backlash and was not as sucesfull as should be

[sonic plover]

Wish green gear could be used in normals. No chance in hell am I going to high rolled against all the decked out purple guys with green gear lol

[vapid arch]

so one really cool change they didnt mention is that the counter of rogues 10 steps in stealth use to have it so the last counter you had one more step, but now you dont

[spare elbow]

Who cares about reviews? If you enjoy the game play it. If not, dont. Whats cool is you didnt even pay for it so no loss if you dont like it!

[unborn vigil]

where do ropes spawn in crypts? this new escape thing feels giga rng xD

[chrome fog]

its not bad to do that, gear got nerfed and doesnt make a huge difference. i killed a full purp rogue (as a rogue in a couple greens) and it was a little tough but thats the point. dont forget youll find blues in chests almost immediately

[azure socket]

seems like they removed gbmm

[storm moth]

Guys I can't connect, are servers down ?

[spare elbow]

I believe every exit in goblin cave is static. Most reliable is center room of map with 4 elevators, another elevator spawns in the middle every few minutes that can take your whole team out

[sudden dagger]

it could have been marketed better. They are a newer company, it wasn't bad, it's just being received poorly from people who are misunderstanding why they can't use green gear "Mostly" its not even a demo, im literally doing the same thing a FTP person is. the only difference is i have a market i can make more characters and i can trade between them. I don't bring greens into dungeons. And i don't want to play HR because its too costly and the people in it are rolling me. so i'm just doing quests getting money and trying to unlock more stash space. A FTP person can buy the game and get access to HR and market in 3 days, this is to prevent cheaters for abuse.

[weary seal]

Who's on rn? What's the playercount at this saturday afternoon

[silk fossil]

hello, is there a way to stop the options to reset at every launch?

[sudden dagger]

ive seen portals in one of the low water modules.

27k in dung 16k in lob

[spare elbow]

Also static, i think a triple blue spawns down in water somewhere every match. Northeast of the center elevator room

[marble tangle]

People are actually complaining that they don't have to pay to play the game?

There is no world where HR should be f2p, at all. Normals only? That's fine.
Imo, they should make it so you can get more character slots via grinding. That's about it.

[warm basin]

new no-zone concept is the worst garbage ever. devs are so brainunalive.

[sudden dagger]

oh... yeah it's technically static, i was thinking you said no portals for some reason.

[vagrant furnace]

Imagine new timmies trying to get through HR ice caves + abyss

[spare elbow]

Honestly 2 slots off the rip i would be ok with since they cant HR, let them try a couple classes without having to delete their only one

[warm basin]

holy f. the new zone timer system is the worst state of the game ever...

[marble tangle]

2 slots, then give a 3rd when their first character reaches level 20 or something.

[steel steeple]

Goblin Archer mission bugged

[spare elbow]

Amazing change W devs great game get good

[warm basin]

"get good" as a statement to defend a system that avoids pvp...

[marble tangle]

PvtLenny used to cry and complain here all the time. I remember. Then you left, and came back?
I think it's about time to leave again already 🤣

[spare elbow]

I get 2-3 teamfights per match dawg only person avoiding pvp is you

[warm basin]

just needed to see if there was patchnotes buddy

[warm basin]

Not sure who you are tho.

[marble tangle]

#📢announcements, try reading.

[uncut igloo]

they should add the beer falling through skeleton skin on the cheers lobby emote

[charred violet]

how to go in ice abyss ?

[warm tendon]

You need to jump into the abys/void at a certain stage in the game.

[maiden tusk]

Does anyone know how to unlock the ice dragon boss

[warm tendon]

I'm also curious.

[charred violet]

😮 really , can you explain more ? at what stage ?

[maiden tusk]

Last 2 min of the. Match

[charred violet]

thanks bro

[warm tendon]

Wish I could, haven't gone there myself yet. Saw a streamer do it. Basically when you look at the abys, once it starts coloring purple and look like lighting storm in the clouds then you can go and jump down.

[spare elbow]

Once a visual effect appears on it. Ive heard its red/purplish with some lightning effects

[steel steeple]

I killed a Giant Frost Berseker and got no credit for the mission or the final goblin archer

[charred violet]

ty 🙂

[charred violet]

im gonna test rn ty boyz

[warm tendon]

Bugged? Maybe someone was there before you and did most of the damage, can be for many reasons. I'd just try again and not be too bothered about it.

[turbid hamlet]

why do i have to wait 72 hours after paying 30 dollars to play the game

[warm tendon]

This was done to combat cheaters I believe. They should remove it for paid accounts I feel like.

[turbid hamlet]

im just going to refund now lol, seems like a bad decision

30 dollar pay wall is already enough to combat cheaters

[warm tendon]

Yes that's wild! They should totally change that.

[fiery venture]

I couldnt get into frost cave stairs as druid wtf

[warm tendon]

If only that were true.

[fiery venture]

Found 2 open stairs and it wouldnt extract me

[steel steeple]

kk will do

[dreamy valve]

not that open then

[warm tendon]

Did it have debris on them? If it did that means someone took it already

[rotund thistle]

I just heard that the game is back on steam. Is it possible to link your blacksmith account to steam?

[warm tendon]

Not yet, it is being worked on, or on their radar.

[rotund thistle]

Cool thanks

[warm tendon]

I strongly feel that this should change, can someone with the right connections get this to the devs attention?

[sleek laurel]

Anyone got a castle ruins hell level extract map?

[spare elbow]

I thought the 72 hour thing only stopped people from going HR not playing at all

[marble tangle]

It is just HR. Unless it's a bug. It's intended to just be HR restricted for 72 hours.

[spare elbow]

They are working out some kinks from adding steam access, if you give it some days i find the game to be well worth the money!

[warm tendon]

I feel the same way. I also thought this was just for HR but maybe they already progressed through the free to play part? Idk.

[brazen sonnet]

I know the goblin caves oval room with all the jail cells spawns 3 blues at least sometimes on the bottom floor

[scenic hornet]

When are they releasing arena mode ?? Pvp is sooo hard to find now

[hollow heart]

i will make it out of a dungeon one day...

[tight dove]

alright which class is most broken after the patch

[spare elbow]

Yup its a 3 man portal every time

[hollow heart]

with my 5 hours of experience i say druid

[tight dove]

i sort of figured

[kindred wadi]

So quick question, what happened to the shared stash. It's gone along with some of my stuff

[scenic hornet]

Warlock always is the answer

[hollow heart]

(dont trust me)

[tight dove]

im a cleric/warlock enjoyer

but i figured that the druid has some overpowered shit havent played this game in a min

[scenic hornet]

Druid is clearly annoying but cant say if its busted yet

[oak jacinth]

nah root is strong in team but druid is pretty underwhelming on first playthru

[late topaz]

Are last seasons rewards able to be redeemed for anybody?

[teal spade]

hey im new and i purchased the redstones and upgraded, but i have none of the benefits. been over 24 hours is that sort of lag normal?

[tight dove]

so then is mage warlock or melee warlock better

i suppose i should ask in that channel

[kindred wadi]

I use mele warlock for mob farming

[scenic hornet]

Range warlock is strong af

[kindred wadi]

^

For sure

[stiff flame]

Does Sword mastery and Barricade Perks work with the longsword?

[dreamy valve]

yes

[stoic fog]

duried is soley support it feels

[snow badger]

So was there a reason like the majority of quests are gone?

[deep galleon]

Ice Skeleton Axemen look annoying.

[dreamy valve]

wipe, quests reset and are released in waves

[snow badger]

Is it per week or?

[vapid arch]

usually

[glass coral]

So at what point do the new gathering hall and arena come into play?

[sudden dagger]

they usually put something out weekly fridays, sometimes more sometimes less

[cursive vale]

did they remove the gearscore divisions

[sudden dagger]

its way too hard to tell, they had it set at 299 last time i checked. for HR only cause you know, can't really get that high in normals

[vapid arch]

they disabled it for the very end of last wipe but they didnt say anything about it being renabled

[teal wyvern]

is it true that i just got the upgrade and need to wait 72 hours to play with my gear ???!!!

[warm tendon]

Yes that is true, HR has a 72 hour account age limit for you being able to enter.

[stable dust]

This where I ask about base kit loadouts? tryign to sus out what weapons to use mostly.

[warm tendon]

If you are still below level 20, you simply cannot take in any gear better than white tier gear.

[ancient spade]

gear based match making gone?

[teal wyvern]

my account is way more then 72 hours age and i played when the game had 1 dung

[turbid hamlet]

same i have like 200 hours in this game

[teal wyvern]

i played in a turnement in the starting of the game and it want me to pay 30 dollers and wait 72 hours sorry what

[worthy crystal]

I haven't played Dark and Darker since the game was taken off steam the first time. Anyone able to summarize how different the game is now compared to then?

[nimble magnet]

is the link account ready yet?

[spare elbow]

There is a lot more content, balance changes happen frequently and they are often drastic, solo duo and trio que with 3 different map options, bosses on each map option,

[hollow heart]

How do i get the damn wasps off me

[teal wyvern]

is that true ?

[spare elbow]

Honestly its hard to understand what your complaint is w your broken english 😦

[limber nimbus]

is anyone else making more profit just running normals? i feel like the loot should get a minor buff for high roller

[spare elbow]

Also upgrading from ftp to full edition is possibly bugged right now so not sure what to say to help in this moment. Might want to wait till they get that fixed anyway regardless of the 72 hr high roller thing

[vestal falcon]

my god is druid way to OP

[tulip egret]

i havent been here in a while... what happened to the ruins map? is there a plan to bring it back or was it removed entirely?

[spare elbow]

Yeah like bard and warlock druid is starting strong and will get nerfed heavily over the weeks im sure.

[onyx coral]

i just got straight skill-diffed by other players when i play 😭 🤣 they just straight running gunning down on me and ignore my fighter

[spare elbow]

Yeah its a pretty common tactic to have an rusher on the team to run and kill weak enemy backline players.

[hollow heart]

Does anyone know what to do about the bug swarms?

[hot grove]

is crossplay enabled? im on Blacksmith but i cant invite a friend who is on steam. is that normal?

[vestal falcon]

he legit has a skill that heals 50 percent of everyones HP lmao

[spare elbow]

Add them in game with their ACCOUNT name

[upbeat rapids]

when are rewards being unlocked?

[nimble magnet]

Any news on the account linking from your browser account to steam?

[spare elbow]

Cleric sanctuary can heal more with perks especially on lower max hp classes, but like i said i dont doubt they started druid strong and will nerf as data dictates

[hot grove]

thank you friend! it worked

[spare elbow]

❤️

[vapid arch]

yeah, they announced its coming

[nimble magnet]

Ah okay, guess ill wait till then

[upbeat rapids]

yea they announced it saying just use ironmace till fix can be implemented

[winter tinsel]

sooo Inferno is kinda rough finding portals, anyone find the secret to it?

[dense gale]

3man blue portals in inferno spawn in the corners of the map, you can identify where they will raise before they do, by looking for an out of place cracked grey stone patch on the ground

[turbid hamlet]

if my character is lvl 20 can i start to bring in greens or do i have to wait the 72 hours to actually play the game

[flat dawn]

i dont understand cyclopse boulder attack, like ik you jump but it seems to be just random wether you live or not

[winter tinsel]

ty, I'll look for that

[regal condor]

have to go into high roller to take in greens

[turbid hamlet]

dumb as hell

[regal condor]

your the one who couldnt figure it out

[dense gale]

You aren’t missing much with high roller tbh, norms is more fun

[turbid hamlet]

@regal condor smoke im saying having to wait is dumb, i was hoping otherwise. i have over 200 hours in this game now stop being rude

[warm tendon]

It is not random, with well timed jumps you will take no damage at all. When the club hits the ground, you will hear a slamming sound, followed by that sound you will hear some sort of echo/reverb thats your queue to jump. You want to crouch jump and hold crouch till you land again. This will give you as much air time as possible thus increasing your window of dodging the rocks.

[flat dawn]

no i know that, but rocks do damage when falling too. like it seems random where they fall so idk how thats dodgeable

[honest valley]

jump crouch

[vapid arch]

you can still be hit by rocks as they fall

[honest valley]

never been hit like that

[icy cliff]

What happened to the quests for the squire upgrades?

[warm tendon]

The rocks fall in random places you cannot predict it or block them with a shield for example. The dodge mechanic works by jumping at the right time.

[honest valley]

weekly

[vapid arch]

lucky you

[indigo solstice]

Does anyone know which stat to look for in druids

[regal condor]

my bad, it helps prevent trolling, peps like to suicide into others often and not take ranking seriously

[icy cliff]

What does that mean?

[errant arrow]

do blue portal still spawn or is it just static?

[vapid arch]

quests come out weekly

[honest valley]

quest come out weekly

[vapid arch]

portals still spawn in gc and crypts but not as apparent

[icy cliff]

……

[honest valley]

upgrades come from quests

[icy cliff]

Like they are permanently unlocked one by one every week?

Or they rotate?

[vapid arch]

they unlock 3 quests for a few merchants every week

[icy cliff]

On rotation or permanently?

[vapid arch]

permanently

[hollow heart]

I love how ice caves can just spawn me in a room with 4 goblin archers and no way to get past them

[icy cliff]

Ty

[icy cliff]

Ya ice caves is fucked

[cosmic swan]

What do you mean by "get past them"?

[hollow heart]

i spawned in a corner with 4 archers right in front of me that immediately shot me to death within like 4 seconds

[warm tendon]

You are supposed to kill them and take their loot 😄

[hollow heart]

ah yeah let me just phase through arrows coming from 4 different directions while in a corner

[open dawn]

Is this whole no greens in normals thing gonna stay? cause i would really enjoy using any gear i have brought out without paying 100g. sure running in naked is fun to some extent but then what? do that a milion times to afford to go to 1 highroller raid and die to ai i don't know how to fight yet since i came back after a long time away? to just do it again?

[ivory iron]

why is the free to play so bad'

[warm tendon]

You'll get the hang of it. Takes practice, this game is just hard as can be.

[neon canopy]

i believe you spawned in the room of death. there are tons of mobs in those rooms in the bottom

[cosmic swan]

Sry but they're is no place like that. The max would be 2 in the elevator room. If you faced 4 of them you might have run around in the room

[neon canopy]

you need to move slower

[hollow heart]

i died within 4 seconds of spawning

[warm tendon]

The 100g I believe temporary till the leaderboards come up again. Then you'll pay ante in the form of rank points.

[scenic pollen]

Out of curiosity

Anyone feel like as EA has gone on, and IM has put out more and more updates the game has lost what once made it so fun during the playtests?

[hollow heart]

usually i spawn in a room with a door that i have to open

[vapid arch]

did the game get worse or did you become more apparent to its flaws the more you played?

[neon canopy]

there are plenty of spawns hahaha

[icy cliff]

Hey so even before the sprint nerf i couldnt catch most people as a PDR fighter, what the play now its nerfed?

[scenic pollen]

eh, I'd definitely say it got worse

atleast imo

[ivory iron]

the game developers are something else they see there game die and first thing in mind it to make a shity free version on popular platforms and tell you to pay a 30$ fee to get access to using your loot
and people call EA greedy

[misty blade]

me running from the Fighter, knowing im about to become a bear and insta-kill him: 😦

me remembering all the times I had to run from the Fighter, knowing he's about to press w and kill me: >:P

[steel steeple]

What's the level cap

[vapid arch]

there isn't one

[cosmic swan]

I really don't think so. It's just that most of the fun during playtest came from the fact that the game was new and that we had lot of stuff to learn. It's just that now, we know the game and are use to it. We start to see the thing that are wrong in the game, get bored sometime etc etc. That happen in almost every game actually

[steel steeple]

based

[warm tendon]

There isn't a cap, or a cap that is so high you won't reach it anyway. However after reaching level 20, there is no more benefit in leveling up any higher.

[glad mauve]

@flint surge let me know if u need me to walk you through it. it has to be done in a certain way

[vapid arch]

i mean level doesn't matter past 20

[steel steeple]

Was just curious.

[vapid arch]

the only thing you get is more reward tokens

[open dawn]

I am real sad they got me back with al thse amazing changes to just make me not want to play at all cause my favorite part of the game is just missing.

[cosmic swan]

The reward token

[scenic pollen]

There is that definitely. But to me a I feel like Iron Mace has also put out alot of changes that just makes it harder to have fun like you used to

[warm tendon]

Yes reward tokens, my bad.

[warm tendon]

The new season isn't even up for 24 hours, once leaderboards come up and you have reached level 20, you can start getting some practice in on HR. Don't give up hope.

[cosmic swan]

I guess it's different for everyone then. I love the game right now and love the change they did with the wipe and the last hotfix

[open dawn]

See i do not like playi games solo. All if my friends are mega bad and do not like to try at all. the game is unfortunatel dead for me because of this

[warm tendon]

Same here, my friends do not even want to give the game a try. I love it, they don't feel it. Can't help it. Many games I play I just go in to have fun.

Right now spectating new players is literally the funniest thing you can do.

[scenic pollen]

fair, everyones different to me they got rid of the fun the more and more they changed

[spare elbow]

You dont like the high roller fee? 100g is pretty low when a low tier high roller kit is gonna cost at least 500

[scenic pollen]

I miss the days of lobby voip,

[whole anchor]

what this is just not right. the high roller fee increases the time sink into getting the content locked behind ap rewards

[flint surge]

i got it to work, thnx 🙂

[warm tendon]

I'm not a fan of it either, I'm like the rank ante, just not as much the gold one.

[fathom oyster]

So where does one leave near the end? Especially for Trios/ Duos. Cuz I can never find the blue portal

[spare elbow]

I thought this system was fine too but 100 gold really aint much if you have gear suitable for hr anyway

[cosmic swan]

#q-and-a message

[open dawn]

See thtas the issue i wanna run a couple greens and go in with a kit of only gear i found. that isn't worth 100g th mobs will wreck me

[vapid arch]

static portals, they're on your minimap

[warm tendon]

I feel the same way about the craftable items in the game. All of this content is hidden/locked, if they'd make it so you could see it in the shop but it being greyed out, saying you need to complete quest xyz. That would make it more obvious that the content exists.

[dense cypress]

did they remove the skeleton class?

[fathom oyster]

But why only one can go each time?

[warm tendon]

I can still equip it and it is still in the shop, just checked.

[vapid arch]

the same reason only one person can go through one portal

[dense cypress]

bettt thanks

[rocky current]

Chicken and Rat feel useless, either make them viable or no one shot you if you get hit. Maybe stuns you for 1-2 sec and turns you back human

[whole anchor]

hoenslty not sure if i even want to play. already bored. normals is boring af andf high roller locked behind gold so im forced to do norms and lets be honest norms is pretty zzz for extraction game where you cant bring the gear in you extract

[sudden dagger]

where are people mining the iron from?

[fathom oyster]

But at least portals come in 3? I feel punished for partying up but needing to search the map for another

[whole anchor]

so now you pay for the game and still locked in "f2p" land lol just an extra slap

[unborn ridge]

soo where my season rewards at

[small marsh]

Normals is literally the only fun way to play this game tbh

[sudden dagger]

work on unlocking stash space and then just wait for next quests to come out.

[undone night]

what does fame do?

[whole anchor]

no im talking about the entry fee

i dont want to "farm in normals" to go to hr

[warm tendon]

Sorry my bad, never said a thing 🙂

Yeah that sucks, whenever I die in HR and have to go back to normal it's soul crushing but on the on the other side that makes it cool. It fits the Hard and Harder vibe of the game.

[whole anchor]

yeah i hate it id rather spend my time in hr progressing than grinding in norms for 100g first. and if you die a few times all of the sudden youre out 500g its lame

[severe otter]

Guys please help how do i evacuate with my duo? I only see 1 person exits. No more portals

[whole anchor]

whatver maybe ill check in on updates now and then im out this season though if they keep entry fee

[warm tendon]

Yes that sucks, when leaderboards come up none of that will be an issue anymore.

[warm tendon]

It won't stay, it just ehre till the leaderboards start.

[onyx coral]

how to counter that?

[misty blade]

calling it NOW: Druid sits in the same place Fighter does, in the sense that he will never be truly balanced

Just like Fighter, Druid can do pretty much everything decently well, if not better than other cast members. Even Rogue is heavily outshined by "sneak up as Rat, transform into Bear/Panther" strats by Druid

[whole anchor]

oh you think so? then thats fine

if thats the case mb rant over

[misty blade]

So they will attempt to balance him, but Druid by his very nature will always be strong. Just like Fighter, they designed him with an option for any and everything

[sudden dagger]

yeah they only changed it to gold because leaderboards are down, during LB its AP for entry fee

[warm tendon]

Your team will need to split up and both go to a different exit. There are also elevators and rafts which multiple people can take at once. There are also blue portals but those are rare. Best bet is to look at your mini map for blue icons, they pretty much always mean there is an exit.

[zinc sluice]

Anyone know how to get the link code to connect to steam?

[warm tendon]

If you are asking how to link your darkanddarker/blacksmith account to steam. This is not yet possible.

[zinc sluice]

ah right kinda annoying lmao

[proud geyser]

are the quest from armourer and weaponsmith coming soon or what?

[warm tendon]

Quests are released in chapters, they will come out later in the season.

[zinc sluice]

Can i play with steam players while being on black smith?

[dusty coral]

not to be one to complain but they ruined forgotten castle with the lack of extracts in duos.

[proud geyser]

@warm tendon thanks i was wondering if i should keep the quest items for those or if they are not coming back..

[warm tendon]

Yes that shouldn't be an issue, just find them by adding the + symbol next to your character in the lobby. You can send them a friend invite.

[zinc sluice]

Thanks appreciate it

[warm tendon]

Yes keep all the quests items, yet we do not know which one will be needed yet. So keep them all.

Tip: Invest in a extra stash tab 🙂

[opaque gulch]

how do we sell the loot we got?

[warm tendon]

Go to merchants, go to collector, select the sell tab at the top. The collector will buy only trinkets/gems/etc most other vendors will buy all types of weapons and armor.

[opaque gulch]

ohhh ok tyty

[scenic pollen]

they ruined alot about dark and darker imo

[dark hare]

how expensive are skull keys currently?

[warm tendon]

There is not a single one on the marketplace.

[dark hare]

mhm

[vapid arch]

considering skull keys are inherently tied to artifacts, no one has one yet or can even afford one, idk

[dark hare]

I have one thats why im asking. Ive been grinding bosses all day

[vapid arch]

wait for other people to put them up and the market has a defined price tag then sell it

[sudden dagger]

they sit around 2k

[warm tendon]

Id suggest hanging on to it for a bit or get a party together and use it yourself for some potential sweet rewards.

[solemn dagger]

But have you killed the new dragon boss?

[dusty coral]

honestly its alot of fun but yea druid is broken asf warlock is pretty insane as well. Meanwhile you have fighters who half of the perks are abysmal. just feel like recently balancing has been pretty bad. They took forest away which was a way better map than frost mountain.

[vapid arch]

lol they peaked over 20k last wipe, dont lie

[dark hare]

i know what skull keys do. Im going to sell it.

[sudden dagger]

peaked. before saturation.

[dark hare]

They sold at over 25K at some points last wipe

[sudden dagger]

then sell it for 25k on second day of wipe

[dark hare]

Not relevant to the conversation

[scenic pollen]

it saddens me greatly 1 they took away ruin/forest. whatever it was called

And then forced map rotation so I can't just play crypts

[dark hare]

2k isnt even enough for my 3rd stash space lmao

[vapid arch]

had nothing to do with saturation and everything to do with it being end of wipe, when they were down to 2k it was the last 3 hours of wipe

[scenic pollen]

respectfully towards iron mace, ice caves/goblin caves is a shit map for me

[vapid arch]

don't listen to anyone else, just sit on it and wait for a defined price to be set on the market
skull keys are used as the main source of gold sink now so selling it now would be stupid

[sudden dagger]

then why even ask, it's likely to sell for a lot yes, but nobody has the money yet.

[sudden dagger]

i was thinking golden key MB

[tame pebble]

how does druids spells interact with enemies?

wondering if i can the +5all in to drop in melee without buffing them

geared druid on top

[hollow heart]

where are the escape portals?

just in the middle?

[cosmic swan]

In inferno they're on the corner. There is one in the top left corner of crypt and Goblin cave

[zealous jewel]

still crazy to me they nerfed rogues hide

[vapid arch]

on second thought on encountering a druid with gear in HR they are a little bit fucking strong

[hollow heart]

what about the ice dungeon place

[hidden canyon]

whats the new escape method in the howling crips ?

[vapid arch]

"lets standardise movement speed so people dont kite then release a class that does everything including kite"

[cosmic swan]

No portal in the Ice cavern. Only static exit

[hollow heart]

oh how do i get there?

[cosmic swan]

#q-and-a message

[shut breach]

Anyone know if for steam summer sale IM will slightly reduce price for legendary what not? I love the game but i aint tryna drop 30 on the unbalanced and unfinished mess it is rn

[cosmic swan]

https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/IceCavern-01-HR It's not up to date but you have some on the exit here (press deselect all to remove the marker)

[subtle heart]

not being able to find an exit is fucking irritating

[kind valve]

where is the zone and leave portals???

the bugs just showed up and killed me

[cosmic swan]

Forget about finding random portal they don't exist anymore. Read this #q-and-a message and if you don't want to learn by yourself look that https://darkanddarker.map.spellsandguns.com/map/IceCavern-01-HR It's not up to date but you have some on the exit here (press deselect all to remove the marker @kind valve

[kind valve]

thank you

[noble moth]

how do you upgrade the account? from steam

[bright prawn]

I think you gotta launch the game and Icon in top left

[stuck badger]

hey guys, are there no more portals? me and my friends cant find any in trios

[noble moth]

ah ok, thanks!

[bright prawn]

NP

[cosmic swan]

Look to my message, 4 message above yours

[autumn socket]

so solo hell is completely dumb now, either you get lucky to see a portal or you have to clear the whole dungeon alone to check the spawns

[rapid vapor]

why does ranged seem even more op than it used to be

[cosmic swan]

There is triple portal in every corner

[noble moth]

oh jeez 30€ to get the normal game

[cosmic swan]

Because every class got a increase of 15 hp

[bright prawn]

I bought the normal game, and it whent away after I logged off

[cosmic swan]

It was 35 before

[bright prawn]

been trying to get it fixed but I cant find anyone to help

or that can help

[misty blade]

anyone else realizing that with static spawns you almost cant go solo into hell?

[noble moth]

that's sad, it's a bit too much for it

[silent sapphire]

IS the Blacksmith launcher broken? Trying to install on a new PC and I get "Failed to Prepair Update."

[cosmic swan]

I though so too at the beginning. Now I have 850 hours in the game and I have the best time of my life with this new wipe

[dark hare]

got 1 dude asking 15k on another server might fold thats good money

[noble moth]

I gotta play helldivers2 rn, I'd pay 15/20 for this.. not 35

[vapid arch]

its around that price, but you could probably get a bit more later on
however that amount of gold this early on is probably more valuable

up to you though, personally i'd wait

[dark hare]

yeah probably just gonna get my 15 so i dont have to worry about money for a while

[stuck badger]

are Cave extracts permanent and can always be use?

or only the static Portal?

[spare elbow]

There is an elevator center map that comes every few minutes to extract teams. Otherwise, statics are single use besides one area where 3 portals spawn to exit late match

[stuck badger]

is the elevator always in the center?

[flint zealot]

So, what was the point of making the Ice Wyvern require teaming? Does it not absolutely encourage pre-teaming to get it done?

[spare elbow]

All of the exits are always in the same place in goblin cave. So yes there is always an elevator in the center module of the map. Its a room with 4 elevators in it, a goblin mage in the middle where the elevator to extract comes down

[spare elbow]

It seems you can use a pavise to act as a 4th person blocking the light to activate it… though i havent tested this only heard it

[flint zealot]

But isn't this supposed to be a duo boss?

[stuck badger]

cool thx, hopefully we will make it this time :D

[flint zealot]

Won't that mean only a combination of ranger and fighter can do it

[spare elbow]

Maps are on rotation now so idk if ice caverns is supposed to be a “duo” map anymore

[flint zealot]

I guess. It just feels wrong

Like let me do what we do in Helldivers and throw a grenade at it lol

[spare elbow]

There are ice wyverns in helldivers?

[misty blade]

yeah idk about that mechanic either, just seems odd to slap that on top of an already difficult boss

[flint zealot]

No, but I mean how everyone can work towards clearing anest, but use something everyone has access to to block it

[glad kraken]

Has anyone tried using Druid treant to block the beams?

[spare elbow]

I saw someone say they tried things like this but it did not work

[hard rock]

Yeah cool game not actually free this shit is broken the skeletons just one tap me the entire time stupid fucking game then some guy betrayed me when he said he was friendly. RARUGHHHHHHHHHHH

[glass hare]

where do i find my link code to link my account to steam?

[spare elbow]

Doesnt work yet they working on it

[grave jewel]

how do you get to second floor of goblin caves

[spiral osprey]

any there know when we will get rank rewards?

[hard rock]

Yeah nice troll yall

[glass hare]

ok thank you, do we know if i continue and just play a new account on steam will i be able to link my account later. Because it keeps saying last chance to link account.

[dusk gyro]

bro how do i escape???

[cosmic swan]

#q-and-a message

[eager wind]

hi why the hell do all my characters get 20 free dropboxes each with epic items? so i stomp on people who just started fresh with the wipe?

[haughty sundial]

can I ask what does legendary status mean?

[misty blade]

1. It isnt free, most games arent free. Even "free" games require you to spend money to get things. They let you try it out to see if you like it before you buy, which is more than most games do.
2. The mobs hit hard on purpose- you're not supposed to get hit. Learn to bait, kite, and dodge the mobs- bring healing items for when you make mistakes, and remember that the game is not easy, it has a learning curve. My advice would be to play a class that can heal, or use a shield and use that to try and learn how to avoid damage. Avoiding damage is the key.
3. You can never actually trust anyone, the dungeon is a free-for-all murder fest where everyone is out to get rich. If they think they can get money from you, they might just betray you. It's a valid tactic- my advice? If you ever be friendly with someone, treat them like you're two survivors in an apocalypse. Keep a distance, say your hellos and goodbyes, maybe share some items, then leave. It's almost never worth it to attempt friendship in the solo dungeons.

[cosmic swan]

It give you acced to the whole game. You can create 9 character, trade item with other player, can play in High roller (where you can use your green,blue etc item)

[haughty sundial]

thx man

[summer beacon]

i got this weird bug where i bought the game for $30 but cant seem to get what i purchased, which is locking me out of using my great green gear! also is this game just pve now? i havent seen another player in 10 hours..

[pliant snow]

i got this weird bug where i bought the game for $30 but cant seem to get what i purchased, which is locking me out of using my great green gear! also is this game just pve now? i havent seen another player in 10 hours..

[misty blade]

Stick with it, learn the mechanics and which character you vibe with most, it's a very rewarding game you just need to learn it's complexities. Be patient, try to get into a "every man for himself" dark fantasy vibe, get immersed in the brutal nature of adventuring.

[fading plinth]

You've been posting in this discord for over a year; you're not even a new player. You're literally in here pretending to be a new player to cause discourse. This is some of the saddest stuff I've ever seen,

[slate sparrow]

i got this weird bug where i bought the game for $30 but cant seem to get what i purchased, which is locking me out of using my great green gear! also is this game just pve now? i havent seen another player in 10 hours..

[cosmic swan]

Try #discord-help

[pliant snow]

ok

[misty blade]

are you serious?? hold up

[fading plinth]

Yeah check his post history. 950 results, all the way back to April 2023

[summer beacon]

its weird, i bought it and it put this big 72 hour countdown on my screen saying i have to wait until its over to play

[misty blade]

I just checked, holy shit that is peak loser behavior. omg

[zealous jewel]

gg just sold a ring of courage for 3k

[agile terrace]

Do you need Premium Account to access all quests?

[cosmic swan]

Oh ok that's normal. All free to play account have to wait 72h before the upgrade

[hard rock]

LMAOOOOOO

[fading plinth]

Can we just get a ban on @hard rock please for impersonating a new player just to incite discourse? Like, this is a crucial time and we have veteran players trolling in here making the game look bad; yall really need to crack down on stuff like this @thorn quarry @spiral hinge @umbral linden @restive kestrel

[zealous jewel]

nope, all quests are progressively unlocked. Basically complete everything you have now, and you get more

[hard rock]

Dude its a joke

[fading plinth]

It's f**kin embarassing.

[cosmic swan]

Nop you can do every quest with the Trial version. They're release every week

[summer mica]

how does one go about buying legendary status, i want to try all the classes but new f2p mode says i only get one?

[misty blade]

I second this, the game needs support not discourse.

[zealous jewel]

its not progressively anymore?

[summer beacon]

that seems like a big bug they need to squash

[agile terrace]

@cosmic swan @zealous jewel Which is it now, do they unlock via progression or weekly

[warm tendon]

I'm not sure, i suppose you can see all the quests. They come out in chapters, every week or two weeks or however many time in between. For example the weapon smith has no quests yet even for Legendary status accounts.

[spare elbow]

They said ignore the last chance thing but tbh if you have game on blacksmith just play it there until they sort it out imo to be safe

[zealous jewel]

id go with what dilo says. they always know more than me

[cosmic swan]

Yes they release like 3 quest for each merchant every week from now

[cosmic swan]

Unlock weekly

[agile terrace]

"each" merchant? Weaponsmith for example had 0 quests today.

[zealous jewel]

3 quests aka 1 questline

[spare elbow]

Not all merchants get quest every week

[hard rock]

@misty blade appreciate the advice, sorry I trolled you brotha

[teal snow]

Hobo beggars reviewbombed to mostly negative, hole cwap

[spare elbow]

Yeah tbh they shot themselves in the foot there. Idk if they realized how bad the sentiment around the wording of calling it free to play would be..

[summer beacon]

why did i get banned from high roller for 3 full days for just paying the $30? thats $10 per day

[cosmic swan]

Yes because some merchant unlock powerfull craft and to avoid people from rushing that and take too much advance on the other player, the weaponsmith, tailor, leathersmith and armourer don't have quest yet (It was also like that last season)

[open dawn]

I mean they raise some good points about avoiding the regional pricing.

[teal snow]

They are also kinda unreasonable, from their comments they want whole game for free

[misty blade]

yknow what, looking back I probably should have thought something was up with the "RURAAAGHHH," that's on me LMFAO

[tulip egret]

what happened to the ruins map? are they working on it or did they remove it?

[teal snow]

I agree about this one, but mostly negative? Like come on

[spare elbow]

You didnt get banned from highroller you couldnt play highroller already. The wait period is a tool to stop gold sellers from creating new accounts quickly after they get banned

[iron oak]

Piece of advice, the panther and bear are not great at fighting any of the other classes, the awkward movement and slow turning leads to easy strafing, the bear does not have damage reduction nor the HP to fight even a naked fighter. Panther can do hit and run in ideal situations.

[agile terrace]

How unfortunate. I just want to not start with cancerbad default weapon. But guess Ill just as per usual put like 10 grey weapons in stash instead of relying on base gear upgrades.

[summer beacon]

but im not a gold seller

[hard rock]

Haha bro I wasn't trying to start discourse I just like being silly. It's similar to a message I seen on here before

[open dawn]

Nah thy arent unreasonable they just want to be able to use some of the items they survive with. From the persective of someone who has hundreds of hours and hold the line account i to want a real place to use green gear that isn't in HR TBH the free version doesn't display any of the gameplay loop at all. The reviews are rather justified.

[teal snow]

Sadly developers cant know that

[spare elbow]

Good for you. In the case you were, this period would hopefully help them detect your account is suspicious and ban you again before you disrupt the market further. Hope this helps you understand

[summer beacon]

i just want to use my green loot

[misty blade]

no that's fair, I just got salty because I typed out a genuine response to what I thought was genuine frustration

it's actually kind of funny that i didnt see the RURAAAGH as ironic lmaooo

[craggy ruin]

jesus christ was druid shapeshifting even tested?

[dusk gyro]

Bro how do i escape??? im at hte blue stairs and its locked

[summer beacon]

i have to wait 3 days to use my fun green looties?

[craggy ruin]

rats jumping through the windows of closed doors is dumb af

[slate sparrow]

I have SOOOO MUCH LOOT and i cant use it....

[open dawn]

This i am not even a F2Pplayer and i feel like i have nowhere to se my green loot eithre

[spare elbow]

You can take this time to level other classes or make more money. You need level 20 on any class to do hr anyway, and 100 gold each match entry fee.

[teal snow]

I had an argument with a dude on reddit that said whole game should be free and called me "too poor" (Im founder edition buyer from day 1) and claimed he has more pay power because he "dropped a grand on skins on smite", thread is still live, he didnt delete any comments

[spare elbow]

Green loot is kinda meh for hr anyway i sell almost all greens

[iron oak]

Close enough really, they were meant to be able to crawl under doors.

[dusk gyro]

how do i escape

[iron oak]

Find a blue portal and pray.

[dusk gyro]

there aint no portals 🙏

[summer beacon]

i have 3 classes at level 30... when does this get fun? i cant use my new loot as i am locked out... i havent seen another player in over 10 hours because these maps are so freaking huge and theres no circle?!?! is this a bug?

[ancient vector]

yes there is

[dusk gyro]

bro where

[wicked basin]

The mechanics needed for FTP will mostly be, "bottle necks or PTW" i don't blame people for not being happy.

[ancient vector]

its like the other exits only in certain spots you can see the ground where there at its blue

[spare elbow]

Hm idk friend, i fought 2-3 teams a match last night. You playing solo?

[open dawn]

The game clearly shouldnt be all free but like F2P players should be able to at least bring in green gear otherwise what is it yo are trying o get them to experience taking loot out you cant do anything with? that isnt a game loop

[iron oak]

Circle got removed to emphasis dungeon delving.

[craggy ruin]

I hope whoever designed the rat form stubs their toe today

[teal snow]

They should've just named it demo and it've been fine. And I know they are working on relabeling it as demo (Odin wrote here and in some twitch chats), just frustrated with entitlement of some people

[wicked basin]

Think about every free to play game ever. How do they make their money.. If their player base is small What do they do?

They milk, With PTW skins or something along those lines

[spare elbow]

Some people actually think games are more fun and engaging when they are pushing 35$ skin packs and loot boxes in your face. Really sad

[open dawn]

I agree demo would be a better choice. Also after all that stuff in the beginning about being sick of unethical practices they really shouldn't have done this. Also it dfinately dodges regional prices looks a little like what they claimed the are against. i don't know if it was intentional but they gotta do something about ti

[teal snow]

Yeppers, modern gaming, there's a whole generation that grew up on that stuff

[slate sparrow]

you mean free to play games?

[spare elbow]

Not to mention the $20 battle pass pop up that appears every time you open the game and you have to click “no” 4 times just to get to queues