game-discussion

[brisk mason]

Imagine you wanted a useful secondary skill other than 10 song.

Imagine wanting hot bar space. They need instrument built into music memory

[potent horizon]

They could have added something to spend gold on instead of more gear. I remember saying instead of multiclassing which would kill class identity, to just add a new item "Learning Scrolls" that are super rare drops from bosses, hordes, etc. They wouldve been used to learn new spells/perks/abilities that devs create.

[brisk mason]

Yeah thats true, hopefully ice abyss is soon and same with druid. But its ironmace so that could be a while

[shadow bough]

imagine getting 3 song nerfs going into multiclass.........

[rapid roost]

honestly just needed to cap multiclass to one other class it wouldve nerfed like 4 meta builds outright

[hasty bloom]

What is driving yall to keep playing? the cosmetics from quests?

there is nothing to work towards in this game at all, beside killing noobs and dieing at the end of the day,

[shadow bough]

Nothing i stopped playing weeks ago, SEA is cooked. NA is unplayable here in singapore

[brisk mason]

Half the issue honestly is just not having a usable second skill. Im fine with accelerando and allegro kinda being trios only and stuff. It makes 5 song better in some way. They need a better secondary skill selection

[shadow bough]

the potion silence skill and encore are laughable when a ranger can quickshot 3 triple shit

[potent horizon]

These next 2 weeks the games gonna be totally dead outside peak hours, think its like 2k combined in game now. Just waiting till wipe, if its a banger i will give it a chance, if not im just quitting.

[hasty bloom]

Honnestly this game has a serious identity crisis \

[brisk mason]

Or compared to sprint and savage roar

[bitter citrus]

the nothing to work towards thing isn't really the problem. what do you work towards in CS or Fortnight or games like that? the problem is a boring gameplay loop. everybody pretty much does the same type of attack and 90% of abilities and skills are just passive buff or hit q buff.

[scenic hornet]

Fun?

[hasty bloom]

Solo / duo / trio nothing is balanced they have no clue what they want to do with the game at all

Id love to have fun on this game if they did some good changes for once

[cosmic swan]

It seem that ice abyss is for the next wipe #the-tavern message

[potent horizon]

It kinda is, you get gear to sell for gold to kill stuff for more gear you sell for more gold. That isn't a lot of depth for a dungeon crawler IMO.

[shadow bough]

The game just needs to be free of cheaters, bug abusers, and pre teamers. Sprinkle in new content and thats all i need to have fun

[scenic hornet]

You described an extraction game which dnd is...

[scenic hornet]

Agreed tbh

[brisk mason]

Im praying for ice abyss and druid next wipe, but im not gonna get hopes up

[potent horizon]

It was advertised as a dungeon crawler, and as of right now most people want it to be a dungeon crawler with extraction/pvp elements.

[bitter citrus]

it's a looter extraction game in a dungeon crawler outfit. more tarkov than any dungeon crawlers.

[scenic hornet]

It is an extraction game

[shadow bough]

They just redefined their game as "harcore PvP, unforgiving with PvE elements)

[hasty bloom]

Chinese gold farmers #1 they still selling gold with no punishment? Idk man trade in general opens the game to R > M T

[scenic hornet]

Sorry to burst your bubble

[cosmic swan]

Me too, and he also said that #the-tavern message so maybe not for the wipe, but for the next season

[potent horizon]

It cannot compete with better extraction games is the issue. If they hold true to that then i guess il respect it but this game will die.

[rocky plover]

is it possible to get to demi god by not doing pvp/going to inferno?

[rapid turtle]

anyone else STOKED for the game to come back up and then go into emergency patch mode 20 minutes later for the 10th time in a row?

[hasty bloom]

Bad patches for a entire year, bad dev work for a year and Stll got R.M>T plagueing the game

[scenic hornet]

It can because no other extraction game is like dnd its unique in the genre

[bitter citrus]

i never saw it advertised as a dungeon crawler anywhere. always heard it classified as a loot extract game

[frosty sedge]

Hardcore pvp maintenance simulator challenge: run the game (impossible) what the sigma

[potent horizon]

It cant and its lost 90% of its playerbase by focusing on nothing but pvp buffs/nerfs back and forth, over and over. Its 1 screwup from dying completely at this point.

[hasty bloom]

Guess we need more people like Spudhunter to show the masses this game is Dead meat

[bitter citrus]

tbh dungeonborne will prob bury this game when it comes out on steam. the new stuff from dbs pre ea release looks really good. plus being on steam. last playtest db was matching dad numbers

[sterile acorn]

ETA till its up?

[woeful plume]

No team management over there = poor results over here.

[shadow bough]

Used to be. Now Capcom and Dungeonborne are making clones to compete in this market. The comptetion is good will encourage IM to make or brake

[scenic hornet]

Losing that much of a playerbase is kinda normal in today gaming industry tbh

[hasty bloom]

Loseing 90% of the playerbase means Bankrupcy for most indies

[scenic hornet]

Depends what the 100% is

[silent notch]

"We will do my best to fix it." sdf sole dev confirmed

[bitter citrus]

this next season will make or break dad with all the new competition in the genre coming in Q2/3

[hasty bloom]

mehvthe shills will keep playing the gamehas been dead for the last 6mo atleast

[scenic hornet]

Lmao

[potent horizon]

Having 2k in a game that requires online interaction is not good. Maybe if they do an overwatch system where lobbies don't start until X number all que ready to go; it could work. But the current system is just a negative feedback loop where they keep designing a battle royale/extraction game with more people quitting every day. You need a lot of people to make that work.

[rocky plover]

what? doesn't that just mean that less games will be made to begin with?

[hasty bloom]

im sure they are spending precious time making a battle pass or sum to keep the cash cows playing

[shadow bough]

https://youtu.be/1yJQrEmZtCs

[scenic hornet]

Idk i see 6k all the time at peak NA still playable I played games with 1k playerbase that were still kicking so it doesnt scare me tbh

[shadow bough]

They did not ban all the chinese gold farmers who ruined our servers.

[scenic hornet]

So when is dungeonborne coming out? Cant wait for our doomers to leave us and go doom this new trendy game ❤️

[hasty bloom]

also who's dumb enough to be paying for gold on this game?

[cosmic swan]

Yes pls

[rocky plover]

fax no printer

[rocky plover]

the same people that pay for any convenience in any other game. lazy people with money to burn

[hasty bloom]

You deserve to get scammed lol if you buying gold for DnD this game is asswater couldn't be me spending real cash for Gold thats going to get wiped

[nocturne acorn]

i just wanted to have fun but every update makes ite less fun for the casual player and goes towards the people who can spend 8 hours on the game daily.

[shadow bough]

Lmao Unlike DaD they don't need a kickstarter and are waiting to have a fully functional build before they launch it.

[bitter citrus]

no ill still be here ranting about how great db is and roasting everybody here for not playing out of some odd sense of loyalty/principle for some random other dev in court for stealing assets

[scenic hornet]

I feel its muuuuch easier now than it was for casuals tbh

[potent horizon]

Yeah games not casual friendly at all, especially with how lacking in PVE it is atm.

[shadow bough]

Stop the Cap, only thing is easy is that servers are dead

[scenic hornet]

Innocent until proven guilty bruh

[rocky plover]

you're saying that like Dark and darker was completely non-functional.

[hasty bloom]

@bitter citrus Atleast copycats inspire the Orginal dev team to kick there ass in gear, Look at pokemon etc there are copys of everything everywhere competition is good

[scenic hornet]

Nah flee market made it much easier, white lobbies , gbmm, solo mode

[bitter citrus]

that's why i said "in court for" and not company that did

[rocky plover]

also the squire, cant forget about that

[nocturne acorn]

Also the the fact that anytime there is any update, you have to basically redownload the entire game.

[scenic hornet]

Yeah but the way you said it implied a negative connotation imo

[hasty bloom]

Also is it copycating if you buy the same asset packs the DND dev team bought kek

Goes to show how much "Dev" work they put into the game if you can buy the entire game from UE market and remake it..

[bitter citrus]

Medal of Honor was the dopest until Cod came around and ripped off everything Moh did. industry baby!

[scenic hornet]

True game is easier for casuals fact imo

[bitter citrus]

no i said it neutrally it just inherently has a negative connotation

[scenic hornet]

Lmao go remake it then dummy

[hasty bloom]

Why would i DB got it covered

[brisk mason]

You can’t though. The assets are such a small part of the game. They are a lot of work to make from scratch but the game is so much more than just assets

[shadow bough]

Tell me how you see the game today? Is it functional if even small cosmetic patches enable this many bugs? Sure it will be a bumpy road, but the only reason I promote DB is for competition in the space. This will drive each company to make their game more fun for us players. Currently DaD is losing their good faith with the community.

[scenic hornet]

So many dumb ppl on this chat with 0 knowledge of game dev its sickening respect the ones that offered this gaming experience and just move on if youre salty.

[nocturne acorn]

lmao, guess everyone is dumb becuase they dont agree with you

[shadow bough]

^

[hasty bloom]

@brisk mason Sure its a small part but if the core is Buyable then why stay at a game thats dieing when copy cats have the same game / Textures etc? don't get me wrong im not saying im a DB shill or sum im just saying its possible to remake DND and they did.

[rocky plover]

and what if dungeonborne is completely non-functional? what if the second a player boots the game their pc explodes? that's the problem. you have no idea and yet you're praising a game you haven't even played yet

[scenic hornet]

I mean being dumb is not about opinions but ok bruh

[bitter citrus]

no, you go to gen chat and stay out of game discussion if you don't like it

[potent horizon]

I mean its more fun to reminesce about how good it was at the start and how good it could be than play it.

[scenic hornet]

Nah I love laughing at ppl here

[shadow bough]

I played the fuck out of their live Beta demo. And yes their were kinks, but the gameplay was fun good gear was hard to find. Death knight and arena was fun and different. Im just wondering why you are defending the fuck out of a game and its devs that are constantly ignoring the glaring issues of their game.

[bitter citrus]

me too!

[nocturne acorn]

you forget he is an omega brained genius

[hasty bloom]

DB is alright but its not DND by any means DND more polished but still, the Devs have no clue what kinda gold mine they sitting on, if they just did some Real good dev work for once

[rocky plover]

from what i see you just need variety. if im understanding correctly you're just salty because you only play DaD. also what are the "glaring issues"?

[rustic dawn]

When are we going to buff fucking orange? There's like none in the game

[scenic hornet]

Not sure why ur so mad ? Probably youre the type of guy bashing the devs when you cant even code hello world lmfao go touch grass

[bitter citrus]

no need to insult people and get perosnal. it's just a game

[nocturne acorn]

😘

[shadow bough]

No im salty since they never took a hard stance against preteaming and cheating,

[bitter citrus]

😉

[potent horizon]

why would they, a cheater is worth 10 normal players in terms of how many copies they will likely buy to play again.

[cold spire]

imagine needing to be expert at politics to prostest againt my goverment when they do bad things

[scenic hornet]

Didnt they make it bannable?

[rocky plover]

it's literally a bannable offence. they already made it bannable to preteam and the first person i reported for it got banned, not to mention they disabled VOIP in lobbies so preteaming is less frequent

[shadow bough]

Temporary Bans for ESP. Preteaming is allowed not even discouraged

[scenic hornet]

Its bannable

[rocky plover]

it's literally not allowed, tf u mean

[shadow bough]

No one in SEA or OCE has been banned.

[nocturne acorn]

i dont understand their stance on teaming. on one hand they say its a no no unless its organic in game, but then hold tournaments like dodgeball with drums or something, isnt that a preteam lobby? or did they set up a server specifically for it

[drifting berry]

Sorry, This inventory refactoring was too unfinished to be made public. We apologize for any inconvenience. We will do our best to fix it. STILL NO USE OF THE TESTSERVER NICEE

[shadow bough]

Im telling you guys, NA servers might be policed. But mine arent.

[scenic hornet]

Interesting topic but to me its not the same, politics is about opinion, game dev is about knowledge and skills most ppl here complain and have no idea what they're talking about and what it implies

[potent horizon]

nobody plays it because theirs zero incentive too and the pop is already so low.

[nocturne acorn]

We will do his best*

[hasty bloom]

Who needs test server when all beta testers are on main server ./s the way they thinking rn at 2k or less playercount kek

[scenic hornet]

Preteaming is bannable but teaming IN a lobby is legal and thats an issue xD

[shadow bough]

How about players in Mandarin telling me they are farming the whole dungeon and everyone is in a discord call?

[scenic hornet]

In NA ?

[rocky plover]

what was the inventory refactoring even about?

[shadow bough]

OFC players speaking Mandarin in NA West thank you einstein.

[scenic hornet]

What?

[drifting berry]

i have no clue didnt played since 2 days...

[hasty bloom]

ni hau ma Toni mah b? - or sum shit like that in manderian

[scenic hornet]

Code refactoring prob

[potent horizon]

You can always just pretend to be 1 of them and try blending in

[hasty bloom]

just repeat what i typed - or China #1 will work.

[shadow bough]

Doesn't work and I shouldn't be forced to PvE

[quick fern]

nihaoma

[hasty bloom]

But yea real M.T is the other issue people wont want to admit is there, Just remove tradeing / marketplace imo make the game more Ironman esk , Add in some Diablo features for loot rolls etc add some competent form of End game and boom you got a masterpeice

[modern socket]

I think that if it continues like this, fewer and fewer people will play. It's been a while since I've seen a significant addition.

[quick fern]

do the diablo 4 thing and remove useless rolls

[hasty bloom]

But hey what do i know im just some random who isn't a dev right guys, Surely the inv qol rework is a better change

after a year of nothing added to the game or changed in a meaning ful mannor

[potent horizon]

It all depends on what happens post-wipe in 2 weeks. It could be a banger or a dud. Im giving it 50/50 its either exceptional or the game crashes and burns as they releae more pvp buffs/nerfs.

[bitter citrus]

yea they have the opportunity to right the ship here. they will be in trouble if not, especially if they can't get up on epic

[hasty bloom]

they got good bones on the game but dam its rough watching em sink the ship

[nocturne acorn]

we know nothing and get nothing 😭

[scenic hornet]

What would right the ship according to you doomers ? Legit curious about your ideas like I want to know

[hasty bloom]

Read my comments just above?

[merry nest]

Make the game great again

[hasty bloom]

Would instantly save the game Remove R>MT add in some random loot rolls a good endgame grind etc and BOOM masterpeice if they blanced the PVP etc a little more

but instead for the last year they have done nothing Doesn't feel like the game has a good inspiration or goal

[potent horizon]

Puzzles, treasure hunts, learnable spells/abilities/perk scrolls you find somehow in the dungeon, fishing, etc. It needs serious PVE content that promotes adventure, or dungeon crawling. Not a battle royale with an extraction element.

[honest badge]

how do you remove r>mt...

[merry nest]

I just want full lobbies again

[scenic hornet]

Removing r Mm tee is impossible its in ALL multiplayer game

[hasty bloom]

Remove all forms of P2P trade i.e market everything

[modern socket]

I was really excited for the last one and I was kind of disappointed. I think if they just add events to the game. Or a Full PVP arena mode, different things that don't necessarily have to be in the game all the time, would motivate me more to play. Not to mention how unbalanced the classes are.

[scenic hornet]

I think this wont happen because it is an extraction game but its all good ideas tbh I hope they add the skill tree or talent tree or wtv

[merry nest]

and get rid of the esp kiddies cause shit getting annoying

[honest badge]

u know what happens then? u just join the same lobby give the person what they bought and have them camp a static

[bitter citrus]

stability, in game and with releases/patches. too many performance issues. too chaotic of a patch schedule. fulfilling promises, druid, finishing ice map/ruins/dragon. figuring out a lobby system that works for everybody, remove duos, stack the maps so there's only 2 maps and you can play solo or trio. some off the top of my head

[frosty sedge]

Update fix for the update fix for the fix fix for the fix's fix maintenance

[hasty bloom]

im talking about a rework of the core concept of the game if you can't grasp the idea i dunno what to tell ya bud

[scenic hornet]

Why remove duo ?

[shadow bough]

Remove pre lobby entirely and move that into the gathering hall (as they suggested). Take a hard stance on cheating and don’t even add new content just make servers less laggy.

[honest badge]

youre trying to say they can fix a problem that is practically impossible to fix...

[scenic hornet]

Never gonna happen u just want another game its fine

[bitter citrus]

go back to SBMM but only accont for pvp because ap grinding doesn't mean skill

[bitter citrus]

why have duos? duos can just play trios

[potent horizon]

Yeah i thought it was funny how they didnt touch sprint or second wind the whole time lol. Like the 2 most OP abilities in the game that break solos, but they nerf clerics 4 second buff for some reason. Thats wat i thought was most frustrating, all the pvp buffs/nerfs and they didnt do a good job with it.

[shadow bough]

I knew the game is dead when Periodios stop coming here

[scenic hornet]

Why sbmm

[hasty bloom]

its not impossible to fix, make gear ironman/ account locked No dropping gear to teamies etc Fucck the team rework the idea Concept of the game remove tri's duo or add in a competent end game grind that is not a unbalanced 3v3 game?

[bitter citrus]

so new players aren't going up against gigachads

[honest badge]

so make items not exist and remove duos and trios is what youre saying

[scenic hornet]

Smurfs?

[hasty bloom]

im talking about reworking progression and adding in something to actualy grind for in a meaningful mannor for gear progression / Random loot roll etc you ever play borderlands / diablo etc?

[bitter citrus]

ok? hackers? why play the game at all?

[shadow bough]

Eh it would take a lot to “Smurf” in DaD. I mean sure if some fuck wants to by all means, but having new friends try the game and leave due to inability to compete sucks.

[hasty bloom]

the current game they are making is NOT WORKING.. hello wake up

[scenic hornet]

Just saying sbmm as a concept never works in pvp games so why force it ?

[bitter citrus]

sure it does if it is done right

[scenic hornet]

They can compete in white lobbies until they get better no?

[shadow bough]

It does wdym that’s why competitive games have existed for so long.

[bitter citrus]

also can't have so many queues to do it

[scenic hornet]

Name a game that did plz

[honest badge]

random loot roll? is grinding bosses for a chance to get a named item and gear not that?

[bitter citrus]

dead by daylight

mortal kombat

[scenic hornet]

Maybe didnt play a lot so idk

[hasty bloom]

Beside killing timmys there is no End game no reason to waste my time gearing up to die to a unbalanced 3v3 later on, beside some shitty cosmetics locked behind quests

[bitter citrus]

for honor

[shadow bough]

But the whole idea of the game is to get better gear. As a newer player wasn’t finding purples or legendaries fun? Sure you can play white lobbies as long as you want, but that gets stale. Once your level 20 and you find good gear you run into 299 min maxxers

[bitter citrus]

want me to keep going til we get to a game you know?

[hasty bloom]

Like is your brain turned on?
lmao the game has no end game no reason to play

[honest badge]

so youre saying in your pvp game theres nothing to do besides pvp

[scenic hornet]

I mean i cant debate over games I dont play take csgo, lol, ow all filled with smurffs

[honest badge]

and as for the timmy problem that why they are experimenting with gbmm

[hasty bloom]

last time this game was in a good state was playtest man, you are delusional

[scenic hornet]

What is the reason to play tarkov according to you?

[hasty bloom]

pvp has been ass eversense playtest eveyrpatch is ass

[honest badge]

im trying to see your point but you dont have reason besides "i dont like this so its bad"

[shadow bough]

Lmao how can you not play and tell me the game is filled with smurfs. And all those games, except for Csgo have decent moderation

[hasty bloom]

anyways keep playing your 2k player count pvp game

[scenic hornet]

I see your point I just feel its MUCH easier now for new players than it was before gbmm I know cuz all my hyper casual friends quit the game cuz they wrre getting farmed by chads and now they just play white and enjoy the game

[honest badge]

keep sitting in its discord crying

[quick shuttle]

Does anyone know how the new "looted" system works for items? If my buddy brings in wendigo claws and i kill him, do they change to looted?

[hasty bloom]

Surely its good guys 2k players it must be a good game kek

[potent horizon]

This game cant compete with tarkov in being a better extraction game IMO. It can absolutely though fill a niche in the market as a dungeon crawler with extraction/pvp elements. Being thats what most players want atm, it'd be smart from a business standpoint for IM to follow through with it.

[scenic hornet]

No I play these games I mentionned not the ones the other guy talked about

[bitter citrus]

ok so you play csgo and theres a bunch of smurfs in the noob lobbies. now take out the noob lobbies and watch all the noobs in the chad lobbies. you can't sit there ad say option a is WORSE than option b

[scenic hornet]

Just leave this discord already its not good for you lmao

[shadow bough]

You’re point about squire and new systems isn’t a bad one tbh. It’s just the players who have stuck around have come to rush modules and PvP with min maxing, making new players feel helpless. Tbh it happens to all games, but others try to incentivize noobs

[honest badge]

he just wants to complain about nothing he wont just leave

[shadow bough]

👍

[hasty bloom]

i mean why leave i paid for this pos ima talk about it im a paying customer

[honest badge]

because its a bad game and you wouldnt waste time on it remember?

[scenic hornet]

U paid 30$ 1 year ago get over it

[hasty bloom]

I mean the game has hope, like iv said like a 1000x but the devs are DOG WATER

[scenic hornet]

Oh Im not saying we need nothing just prefer gbmm over sbmm to protect timmies

[hasty bloom]

I see ping i check see config warrior patches for the last year i mean ...

[scenic hornet]

Try do a game and get back to me bro

[bitter citrus]

much easier to smurf in gbmm than sbmm hence why they should switch it back

[honest badge]

exactly youve said it 1000x times why keep sitting here ranting about it?

[hasty bloom]

i would 100% make a better game if i got the backing these guys got lol they made millions btw

[scenic hornet]

Lack of playerbase clearly hurt timmies that I agree

[honest badge]

are you gonna make it the solos itemless and pvpless game you said would fix this one?

[scenic hornet]

I dont agree with that tbh but I guess lets agree to disagree respectfuly xD

[hasty bloom]

after a entie year id expect to atleast be able to play the game game but nope

[scenic hornet]

Go make that game and ping us in a year to show us your 2d 1998 game u made with 5min story

[trim fern]

Just started playing a few days ago after buying the game and not being satisfied with it at launch. The game has been down a lot during the past few days due to patches and maintenance. Is this normal now for this game?

[honest badge]

no

[shadow bough]

Yes, patches come with a hot fix and server maintenance all the time. But usually it does spans days

[hasty bloom]

yea lemme make a 1 man game kek surely it will sell millions and the community will stick with me for a entire year post launch

[scenic hornet]

No

[honest badge]

goodluck to you

[scenic hornet]

Multiple shit devs should be the same as 1 good dev no?

[bitter citrus]

you don't agree that smurfing in gbmm is easier than smurfing in sbmm? ok gbmm I just take my gear off and go dunk on all the noobs. sbmm I have to derank or outright buy a new account after my rank gets too high

[potent horizon]

No idea how things will play out from here. I give it 50% chance it comes back with a vengeance and as good as it used to be, 50% it sputters out.

[honest badge]

youre assuming hes a good dev "get rid of duos and trios"

[scenic hornet]

Ur talking like dnd is all about skills thats the thing gear > skill in this game

[trim fern]

Alright thanks for the replys guys 🙂

[hasty bloom]

i mean allegeidly they have a 80 man dev team over here, dunno where all theta dev work is going to doesn't like seem a 5man dev team from the patchs we been getting

[scenic hornet]

XD

[shadow bough]

His only good ideas are they game is dying, but even a random could tell you that

[honest badge]

what it truly needs is to use the test server for what it was made for and get decent marketing after fixing some of these current issues and rerelease on steam

[bitter citrus]

to a point but by the time you get good enough gear for that to matter you will already be ranked out of noob lobbies anyway

[scenic hornet]

Also deranking is ez af

[rapid fractal]

No

[bitter citrus]

you know whats real easy? going to squire and hitting equip base gear

[potent horizon]

Problem is theirs no incentive for people to play the test server and the pop is too low now making it even more unlikely people do. Test server requires players to actually test for bugs n shit.

[scenic hornet]

I dont think skill is a huge factor in this game for most ppl its not a competitive game like csgo and such

[hasty bloom]

Well the entire game is PVP, if there is nobody to pvp whats the point in playing kek - Hold the line shills incoming -

[honest badge]

i agree but even with the low players stuff gets reported and goes unchecked despite it getting flagged

[rapid fractal]

Some of us weirdos like to boss and farm

[quiet dagger]

They've made enough fuckin money to QA

[scenic hornet]

Anyway i gtg but nice discussions

[shadow bough]

And for some reason they thought ppl would use it if it was payable perk

[potent horizon]

Then its likely their are huge problems at IM they aren't talking about.

[honest badge]

apparently godmode demonlock was in the test server for weeks was reported multiple times and they still let it slide

[bitter citrus]

doesn't matter if it's competitive. matters if timmy timpson is in a lobby with chad thousandhr. sbmm is more reliable to prevent that

[hasty bloom]

Paid bug testing and they can't even fix the bugs in a good amount in time 🙂

[brave umbra]

why do i keep having to do as security code to login every once in a while?

[fickle stream]

I believe that's when servers are under a huge load for logins. When that happens to me, I generally have trouble even loading up the game from launcher

[opal token]

how long is server down?

[potent horizon]

no clue, but if i took a guess like another hour

[scenic hornet]

Personally im not scared of a chad in whites vs being a timmy in white against a chad in legendary gear

[bitter citrus]

a timmy in white wouldn't be in a match with a chad in legendary gear with sbmm

[left smelt]

Timmy Timpson vs Chad Thousandhourson

[elfin fern]

sbmm = slobbon based matchmaking?

[bitter citrus]

the ultimate david vs goliath

[scenic hornet]

Thats if the chad doesnt smurff which ppl will

[hasty bloom]

the entire ranking system they got rn is trash lol

[bitter citrus]

well people will hack so why have any mm or even play the game at all

[scenic hornet]

Easier to smurff than hack for most ppl

Also the solution to smurf could be amazing rank rewards maybe that could work idk

[bitter citrus]

people will smurf in gbmm lol. i feel like we already covered this

[scenic hornet]

Give sick rewards for ranks if you go down a specific rank once in the season ur not eligible for the reward idk

[bitter citrus]

now you're on to something. that would be the play with both gbmm and sbmm

[scenic hornet]

Account wide

[bitter citrus]

thats what dead by daylight did. they increased rank rewards to prevent people from deranking when smurfing got bad and it helped a good bit

[hasty bloom]

Removeing and doing a different matchmaking system would be ideal for the playercount to go up, the current system promotes way to much min-maxing / teaming / playing like a puss

[scenic hornet]

Make sense tbh im more into sbmm if they find a way to prevent smurffing but its hard most games fail at this 😦

[hasty bloom]

and unrewarding on top of all the issues of the game no reason to want to get max rank at all .

[bitter citrus]

they also put hard floors on ranks so you could only derank by 2 from your highest rank

[scenic hornet]

Yep!

[grim prairie]

i feel like they need to at least release a plan for when they wipe the game. constantly changing wipes will really affect incoming players in my opinion

[nocturne acorn]

are servers still down?

[bitter citrus]

haveing floors on ranks should be a no brainer tbh. if somebody has dropped 2 ranks and is continuing to fall then they are obviously throwing

[opal token]

Brazil is working

[nocturne acorn]

buying my plane ticket now

[shell falcon]

I haven't played in months, maybe a game or so here or there out of boredom. Reason i left was because there is not any actual communication from the developers with their players, its just updates added in unexpectedly, maitenance for what the updates bring, and an utter lack of transparency since the launch of the game of any kind of roadmap or solid developer reasoning as to any of the patches. It hasnt changed.

[nocturne acorn]

i was a fan of people asking questions to the dev and the dev saying they are no longer going to share lol

[shell falcon]

That just begs the question why? why even bother having an official discord server for the game if its going to be just community content and discussion, any of us can set this up as it is. if the devs just want to keep doing things without actual communication and feedback they should not be suprised if that disinterests players.

[shadow bough]

I don't even need their input, as long as the game is functional.

[nocturne acorn]

js, people had legitimate questions/concerns and were basically told they were annoying and that it isnt worth talking about it with us

[shadow bough]

lol misnterpreted your first post damn sucks to be a DaD player.

[shell falcon]

all ive left to say is many people have pointed out today they should be using the test server as an actual test server before they change things. they need to stop trying to rush updates and progress and actually just be flat out honest of what they're trying to do, put things in the test server and actually TEST them for function and satisfaction of players. THEN IMPLEMENT. Take note Ironmace.

[nocturne acorn]

fr. i dont get when people say that the early access is the testing ground when they made a test server for this exact reason. I am not a tester, i paid to play the game. and rn its currently offline most of the time i am able to play so it isnt very fun

[shell falcon]

thats precisely my point.

they want to get to point C, and are at point A. they're leaping the gap without any kind of bridge.

[bitter citrus]

to be fair, they made the test server to grab 10 bucks off of self important folks who think they are doin somethin to be part of the team

[shell falcon]

thats not to be fair.

[hasty bloom]

i mean everyone who purchased the game is a "Beta" tester even worse a pay 2 test model

[bitter citrus]

well in their defense. it's not a good defense but there aren't many others to be had lol

[shell falcon]

if it was to be fair just make it called "10 dollar flex edition". if you put something in specifically marketed as a testing ground and you choose as a developer to not use it, youre shooting yourself in the foot and i think they know this.

[hasty bloom]

from there pov they prob got like 5 people on test server if main had like less than 2k lol

[shell falcon]

Feedback is feeback, by that same logic they wouldnt listen to streamers for input on the game

[bitter citrus]

i don't. if they knew, they would use it. prob talking about it a lil more now so they don't get sued by the people who paid to do it

[shell falcon]

yet entire updates have been issued due to complaints from people like jaygriifith

[slender bolt]

5 backflips

[shell falcon]

so i find the logic of even if theres 10 ppl on the test server. they're testing. listen to em.

i just find it to be absurd

[hasty bloom]

i mean yea the devs are more worried about what x streamer is doing than making the game decent

[bitter citrus]

maybe 10 people in a lobby but you really need full lobbies and a bunch of them to test mechanics and stress test

[hasty bloom]

thats why i said we need more people like Spudhunter who kinda hold the devs to the fire abit

but hey can only make so many good suggestions for so long in the void until you give up

[shadow bough]

Don't worry the success of Games literally cloning DaD will be more than enough to hold the devs accountable. Espscially, if they can make a functioning game

[shell falcon]

I just find this whole argument to be a strawman. if the test server was actually BEING used for testing there would be more players on it. despite the general chat many people want to make this game fun and better and they would have many willing to help.

[hasty bloom]

if the ship gon sink she gon sink

[shadow bough]

It was another way to incentivize players to get "hold the line edition" aka squeeze 15 more dollars

[bitter citrus]

well the test server isn't even open most of the time and you have to pay to use it which nobody does because it isn't open half the time and also we already paid 30 bucks to be beta testers

[hasty bloom]

Also id be worried if you bought into the expensive packages of tarkov iirc it never says you are going to obtain a copy of the game after launch, IIRC you are Strickly buying beta access

[shell falcon]

im talking hypothetically if it was being used as intended it would actually be of great help to them. if they want to make it be an extra 15$ cash grab in reality then they can pay for the consequences of not listening to their players.

[drifting berry]

man this game dev´s do everyhing wrong. respect

[bitter citrus]

oh ok yea on point. you're absolutely right

[shell falcon]

despite the state of DaD i appreciate the good game conversation and hope yall have a good rest of your day and evening. peace

[light summit]

Any eta for the update being over 🙂

[elfin fern]

could be worse, this game could be run by niantic

[bitter citrus]

we'd still have to buy the individual classes then prob have to buy hr passes with real money

ugh i almost threw up a little

[elfin fern]

you have to keep a timmy alive in the dungeon for 24 hours to get 50 coins, and you need 7000 coins for storage upgrade

[bitter citrus]

lol

[left solar]

I just wanna play game

[frosty sedge]

^

[sterile acorn]

shit game

[nocturne acorn]

i am enjoying my time

[unreal obsidian]

i download 20% and then it goes back to 18%.. it's taking FOREVER to download

[nocturne acorn]

servers are offline

[unreal obsidian]

jesus christo..

[tulip thicket]

have they said anything in chat about time frame

[plush portal]

nope

[solar cave]

what actually was the inventory refactoring? I didn't notice anything different at all

[hasty bloom]

Apperently spending precious dev time reworking the entire inv system to add in quiver etc for ranger and some new stuff that is pretty much pointless to add atm

[brisk mason]

Im not 100 percent sure but i think it was more of a software thing making it cleaner and easier to improve.

Allegedly though you can now always move items in your inv and hot bar slots even while sitting and stuff

[mortal oak]

best ranked grind now just 299 lobbies for pve?

[solar cave]

Gotcha, alright

[drifting berry]

no

[mortal oak]

elaborate

[drifting berry]

0-299 lobby ppl have best rolls on all peaces. so if ur not in with ur best gear u gonna loose every fight most of the time. + if lobby is not full you get higher geard players in ur lobby to fill up anyways. the gear score system and ranked system is pure asss

[upper panther]

go 300+ solo crypts inferno

[lament monolith]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow You guys need to add time to this season. Multiclassins was a flop, ruining the experience for a good amount of time. Tones and tones of patch and rematch setbacks and delays. Also people didn't know what to grind for untill yesterday, and most didnt know the season was going due to no counter... So considering all this, please add 4 weeks so we can actually enjoy the seasons content.

[sonic epoch]

i need to grind ap where tf is the update

[near walrus]

Can we drink potions while sitting yet?

[ornate spear]

explodes you with my mind

[hasty bloom]

Doesn't just render like half the reason to play this game lol if you don't want to get gear to get bis gear and there's no point in ranking up why yall playing

[near walrus]

I guess sitting and drinking takes too much coordination

[hasty bloom]

Cosmetic hype for nothing dead game

[drifting berry]

never..this would be so dumb... just go start next season already. nobody needs more time to grind. if you didnt grinded the last 3 month wtf did you do???

[near walrus]

I grinded the last 3 months and I don’t blame anyone for taking a break this wipe lol

[ripe flume]

solo Trio ice caves, not many people play on that map in Trios because there's only 1 gold pile and no boss. You can snipe the timer and queue at the last 1-2 seconds which usually forces a new map, works most of the time - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwOZiIqDK2M&t=140s

[brisk mason]

Dont think

[ripe flume]

gear wont matter because it's considered a dead lobby no GBMM

[hasty bloom]

also just stat checking anyways in you got gear, you are basicly immune unless Completely just breaindead addin a Pocket cleric or sum ez game, its really not fun

[drifting berry]

sadly the game is dead...the dev´s fucked up with all attributes to the start..reroll items with random stats..so we droped from 20k to 15k..then MC from 15k to 9k..after MC just 4k @glad thunder @zinc sparrow stop ruin ur game with useless updates please..focus on ice map 2 and rework other maps for druid...reblance gear score system and scale from true mgc/phsy dmg.. remove creap from the game..and start a new season. Ty

[hasty bloom]

Beside the cosmetic rewards there has been 0 incentive to play the game at all, in any fashion pvp is Broken , Nothing to aim for, Cosmetics are meh quests are not that enjoyable in a broken 3v3 maps etc

[nocturne acorn]

bruh is there an eta to it being back online?

[chilly sentinel]

not yet

[ripe flume]

gear progression should have a flat curve like 5-8% per tier. Currently, gear gets exponentially stronger the higher you go leading to an extremely fast TTK with little to no room for skill expression, feels bad. #GearCheckOP

[chilly sentinel]

eh exponentially from junk to uncommon with good rolls, they increase from each tier after that is not as significant as getting the first roll you need

[hasty bloom]

i will give them credit the 1 map they have right in this game is Crypts by far, i love 1v3ing on Crypts thats about it the other maps are trash

[ripe flume]

it's the damage scaling that's the issue almost makes the higher armor values mean nothing

[chilly sentinel]

i think weapon damage scales close enough to the % you said

[ripe flume]

didn't they test no magic / physical damage on gear a ways back? like before the static stats on gear

[chilly sentinel]

rolls are way more impactful i think

[ripe flume]

maybe stat caps for classes?? I don't know what the answer is I still feel that the TTK is too fast especially in HR normals pvp is fun feels more balanced

[sacred tree]

how can the patching be so bad here? Why is there no announcement on when I can play the game its Friday night ffs.....

[hasty bloom]

thats the norm around here sorry to tell ya

[iron apex]

What is the "crossbow disaster?" Lol. the patch notes don't really explain that

[iron apex]

Because every time they try to implement something 4 other things break and they have to shut down the servers after EVERY UPDATE WITHOUT FAIL lol

[nocturne acorn]

people were reloading crossbows instantly

[unkempt tide]

dude a wipe would be kinda insane tho

[lament monolith]

I work, and have a life, can't play more than like 15h a week, maybe. I leveled ip every class to 30 for multi classing, then they scraped it before I could use it. Was going to start my grind before that. Then tried during but it was hell. My time off is Thursdays and Sundays so the constant re-patching killed my play time. It sucked. Would like more time to grind yea. They extended last season 2 weeks for the same reason minus multi classing. So why not?

[nocturne acorn]

nah if u aint a streamer devoting your life to this game it dont matter bub

[hasty bloom]

Real if you aint cashing in, Not worth the time as a Casual unless you just enjoy the broken PVP balance ngl

I guess the only thing for a Casual to grind is what the Quest reward cosmetic or sum? or some other cosmetic that doesn't matter because the core is broken to this game?

[unkempt tide]

Comsetics op

[neat tundra]

Servers are still down?

[frail falcon]

Whens maointenance done

[grave sundial]

anyone know when the patch will be over?

[iron apex]

I mean yeah, pvp games in general are generally not considered "casual friendly," all the casual crowd who played got a set of greens, died, raged, and called the game toxic and uninstalled

[nocturne acorn]

im guessing within the next week

[sterile acorn]

servers never coming back up

[worn hull]

Discussion topic: How to prevent dupe glitches in your game's inventory code

[hasty bloom]

Lol impossible for these guys

[iron apex]

I mean the game feels like its held together by glue and tape but its still fun, I feel like the devs are just learning as they are going kinda like that palworld game lol

[worn hull]

Problem is they had an inventory system working and nuked it for a new version before they fully tested it

[hasty bloom]

i think the palworld devs would be more competent than these guys given a year paid QA free testing the devs here do not want to interact with the community at all to make good changes

[worn hull]

At some point they need to learn to test things before they go live

[nocturne acorn]

i keep hearing we are the testers.

[hasty bloom]

everyone who paid is a tester yes

[iron apex]

Lol we are dork, you bought the game to be a tester, welcome to early access 😄

[worn hull]

We are but there's a test server for major changes that could make the game go down or for extreme balancing tests

[hasty bloom]

Also i think palworld is like a 1 man dev team for real or something before be launched the game so i mean still better than DnD

[iron apex]

Yeah like the druid, that class is unbelievably busted in test servers, don't think its coming out too soon which is why they are using that server to learn and tweak it. Prolly shoulda done the same thing with inventory

[worn hull]

^ Exactly

[hasty bloom]

palworld still a Cheap knock off game but it is what it is still sold millions

[iron apex]

And DnD is what?

[potent horizon]

Is thier any ETA on when servs r back up?

[worn hull]

Nope

[hasty bloom]

DnD is a gold mine waiting to be Purged, IM need to sell the gem to a real dev team

[potent horizon]

its been like 4 hours now dam

[worn hull]

It's also Saturday there now....

[frosty sedge]

minor? what did he sayyyy

[worn hull]

I bet their employees are fucking pissed. Leaders agreed to push an aggressive patch on a Friday night for them

then they end up working all night and into Saturday

[iron apex]

Woof yeah I didn't even think about that. Some people are 100% sleeping at the office tonight =/

[worn hull]

Leadership is at massive fault for allowing those changes to go through

[frosty sedge]

^

Do it right the first time

[worn hull]

Well, release it right the first time. Break it 100 times in the office first

Like someone said though, they treat the players as the testers. That doesn't work for game breaking glitches that shut the servers down though.
Even if they reopen, a new dupe will be found

They gotta catch a bunch of them before they push out and leave the rest to us

[hasty bloom]

How can you work on a game this long and still have made no Progression on the goals of the game or objective etc nothing of value has been added at all

[regal raft]

1000000% agree, imagine the things that could be done with this game if they had a real team..

[iron apex]

What do they call that? I remember hearing playtester/dev talk from the super best friends play guys. When they have people intentionally try to break it there's a name for that

[worn hull]

The problem with going open alpha is that instead of just being able to develop and fix bugs later, you have to balance, fix bugs, do everything perfect even if youre going to redo it later

[hasty bloom]

QA

Quality assurance is basicly just bug testing you could call all your selfs QA but you paid to QA this game

[iron apex]

No the term is something testing there's some term for it but w/e it doesnt matter lol

[worn hull]

Regression testing?

[iron apex]

soak testing keeps coming to mind but thats when you let the game run for like days at a time and see if memory is affected

[hasty bloom]

i mean there is other names yea but these guys cant even afford a in house gfx artist because they buy all there assets from UE marketplace

[iron apex]

Thats what happened to bloodborne, some people were saying the game was stupidly easy and others were like wtf how. Turns out what was happening is they were leaving the game running which made boss memory fail and they would only use their most basic attack over and over

[hasty bloom]

if ya aint paying a GFX artist and they allegidly have a big dev team, its just wasted money SDF Riding in his lambo in korea

[potent horizon]

do u actually know if he drives a lambo

[hasty bloom]

No lol, its jokes but really id love to know the dev team size

I hear anything from 1 man to 80 man dev team but these patches for the last year have been total ass

Complete waste of everyones money imo, They still don't have a good playable base for the game yet but they wanna keep adding new classes and never looking at the core issues of the game, So it'l always be a broken pile of trash for balance etc

At this point id love to see SDF just come out and say hes selling the game to a big corp or something, then we might see a good playable DnD lol

[iron apex]

It's obviously not a one man team but I also doubt it's as large as 80. If I had to bet I'd say a team between 15-20 are doing everything

[opal token]

couldn't they just roll us back before this last patch, like brother i don't care about an updated inventory i just wanna pub smash

[restive frost]

this games done

holy shit i just wanna play

[iron apex]

Depends on if they have a stable backup from before they tried this. From the sound of it they didn't expect this to give them so much trouble so they very well might not have

[nocturne acorn]

fr

[hasty bloom]

the team is full of smart ideas 👍

[restive frost]

we get an update with not a lick of content but it breaks the game so the servers cant be up for more than 4 hours like jesus no wondering this games dying

[iron apex]

Hey, fewer people getting to demigod the more exclusive the cosmetics are ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[restive frost]

but we did get windlass with 10 shots for a while

[true bone]

this is ridiculous

[hasty bloom]

Oh no the sole reason to even boot the game what ever shall i do without the seasonal chore reward

im shaking in my boots rn im not gonna get my cosmetic ./s

[iron apex]

You better be :Y

[hasty bloom]

beside getting the cosmetic there's no reason to torture myself to min-max to rankup or even boot the game really to get it ngl lol, the pvp is broken asf for ages

[nocturne acorn]

i just wanna play

[wraith crystal]

broooo how I need to grind!!!!

[iron apex]

I feel that, I just grew up on wow so I HATE non-exclussive rewards. Used to be that whoever did whatever hard challenge were the only people who got those rewards and could show them off but there were so many butthurt people who can't stand exclusivity so everyone gets everything eventually now no matter how hard it was to initially earn.

Like there used to be a mount that only like 200 people ever got in the games history and it was a huge deal, they then decided to give it to everyone with a twitch prime account

[lyric lark]

soooo why has it been in maintenance for the past 6 hours

[hasty bloom]

You know why thought right? CASH IS KING all changes are influenced by cash

[lyric lark]

yes but why so long

[deep galleon]

Because this game suffers from half-baked ideas being pushed too early.

[nocturne acorn]

they tried to update the inventory and it broke the entire game

[mystic eagle]

wouldve been really cool to play the game with my friends tonight. One day we'll be able to play on a Friday night.

[frosty sedge]

^^

[burnt geyser]

who the fuck does this update on a friday night

[lyric lark]

fr

[hasty bloom]

A update that added nothing to the game btw 8gb spam code

[deep galleon]

Again, half-baked ideas being pushed forward is the reason. They need to stop themselves from pushing ideas before they are actually ready and instead push content out prior to the ideas.

[nocturne acorn]

Legit, why do we always have to download 8gbs for every small update

[lyric lark]

the game seemed perfectly fine earlier when the patch notes came out

[deep galleon]

Redownloading the game.

[restive frost]

why cant we get some content

[deep galleon]

Because they really have nothing content-wise outside of Druid that's a ways away. They have to reuse content they already have in the game to push as "content" for us to have.

[hasty bloom]

i just want them to fix the core of the game and give a reason to play with enjoyable pvp balance is that to much to ask for?

[iron apex]

I guess but the problem is thats a very temporary little financial boost and ever since they started that kind of thing no one cares about cosmetic rarity anymore. Why do the super hard challenge to earn it when it'll be accessible to anyone 3 months later? I don't understand decisions like that because after the initial burst of income you've done so much damage that you can never make a significant amount of money on cosmetics again because now everyone hates it

[restive frost]

if your gonna break the game atleast give us a drop a lick a sniff of some content we were promised druid, ice caves but NOTHING

[iron apex]

Lack of foresight

[hasty bloom]

for some koreans they making some of the worse changes know to man

[thin lily]

somehow they will find a way to nerf rouge because of this lol

[restive frost]

the pvp is so unique and i love this game but its just dying due to them not adding anything

[deep galleon]

The main issue that plagues Dark and Darker right now is obviously that they have too many ideas, too much ambition, too much implementation and not enough quality assurance.

[lyric lark]

all they really need to do is say that they dont have content and that they are working on some good updates they need to constantly push out all of this unfinished stuff that just leaves the game down for 6+ hours at a time

[nocturne acorn]

i think its dying because every update kills the servers

[hasty bloom]

ya know atleat tarkov has the decency to have a working base game and still spit in your mouth , DnD just full on Dubai spitting in ya mouth it feels nasty

[iron apex]

To be fair, they are trying to add new stuff. Only problem is every time they do they take one step forward and 3 steps back. Every time they give us something new 14 other things break

[restive frost]

well there adding stuff no one asked for a refactored inv i notice no diffrence excet is breaking things

[deep galleon]

Even then, the new stuff isn't exactly "new". The armors they added are typically armor that gives better effects than the ones previously, for instance. Or the "new" skins are just reusing pre-existing assets and should've been sold on the shop or made baseline.

The fact of the matter is that they haven't added anything truly new since Ice Cavern's release, and then they took out a map to compensate.

[thin lily]

i miss ruins sm

[restive frost]

me too

[hasty bloom]

Crypts is bis best map made to date, ice caverns a good 2nd

[deep galleon]

The developers of this game seem to be working backwards in terms of what needs to be done with this game. They're adding content, but not content.

[wraith crystal]

same bro same, for all of ruins problems, she was a beauty

[rough whale]

The game still isn’t up? Lmao this is crazy fr

[thin lily]

ruins into crypts into hell was bis

[iron apex]

It's sad to say but I feel like there's a real chance this game ends up abandoned. I thought after they got the lawsuit thrown out it would be easy sailing but instead they kinda stumbled drunkenly out of that fiasco and now are just puking on the floor now

[restive frost]

crypts allows alot more comps like buff ball is what it seems like

[hasty bloom]

nah crpyts was made in mind with all the core classes it feels the best to play on no matter what 1v3 etc its still bis map

[restive frost]

ruins theres much more kitting room and a slow class like barb can get countered by something that can kite and poke

[deep galleon]

I think the developers have nothing to lose if they just implement an offline/private match mode to the game so that people can experience the game better, all while the developers can work on the mechanics, classes, balance and content. The current direction they're going is unsustainable and they are losing player retention.

Let people play by themselves or with friends offline while improving the structure of the game's many, many elements and mechanics so that the public online experience is better by proxy.

[lone monolith]

devs for this game cant fix the game lmao paid for a shiii game

[hasty bloom]

honnestly just let us host custom servers with this game would be better than this team, community run team would make this game 1000X better

[iron apex]

I hate it but you're kinda right, full lobbies become more and more rare after every update

[subtle heart]

its a pvpve game at its core bro. it cant just be a singeplayer game

[deep galleon]

And with an offline mode, let's be real, it would be the best quality assurance mode possible.

[restive frost]

guys lets be honestly the devs work on dad as a hobby no way this is their job

[deep galleon]

Yes it can be. Any multiplayer game can be singleplayer, if you just add the option. Even Tarkov (I hate them, but whatever) is adding it and it's a PvPvE game.

[hasty bloom]

Offline or Community servers is prob the future of this game

[iron apex]

Agreed, look back at halo, playing the campaign solo offline was like watching paint dry but people loved it back in the day for some reason

There's clearly and audience for it

[hasty bloom]

offline forge made some of the best custom games know to man, Xbox days were the golden age

[lone monolith]

true i had to play eu central to get 3 full lobbies then i had empty games poor game was so good when it started now there maintenance every 2 days devs don't care at all should be a community based game

[deep galleon]

An offline mode simply gives players a means to continue playing the game while the developers get their shit together and fix the core issues with both the game and online.

[restive frost]

theres nothing to be excited for in the game rn

[subtle heart]

uh yeah but the singleplayer isnt associated with the actual game. So they would have to do the same for this. Literally seperate the player base even more

[iron apex]

Ugh I just want to go poke some shit with my void blade

[unkempt tide]

PLZ WIPE

[lone monolith]

when its back up play na east so i can take that void blade and sell it

[deep galleon]

It separates the playerbase but it can create significant player retention, which is absolutely crucial for a live service game to have. No one wants to play in sweaty lobbies all the time and nobody has the time to just grind this game forever, so if they have an option to play by themselves or with friends alone, that keeps them playing.

[glad orbit]

The only thing they did start from 3pm is changing “We will do My best.” To “ we will do our best.”

[deep galleon]

There is absolutely nothing that Ironmace can lose by implementing singleplayer. They have everything to gain.

[frosty sedge]

FFS are they getting paid by the hour

[deep galleon]

Of course there is absolutely something they can lose if they don't, and that's their entire game and playerbase and all the goodwill they may have ever had. If the game shuts down and there's no singleplayer, that's not going to be a pretty sight to see.

[hasty bloom]

Yea maybe offline mode is the saviour for this team at this point, would Bring alot of people back im sure, if it was lan offline that would be Awesome

[subtle heart]

but then gear wouldnt really matter per say. you could just farm "dead games" get ez bossing. It just makes it so the people who actually play the game are no where near the same as the people who just start a private lobby and just farm

[hasty bloom]

And just focus on a offline / dungeon experience

[stark shard]

If you were able to play the same character offline or online, that absolutely would not work because then the meta would be playing offline to get the BIS sets and then going in for PvP... the game would be literally nothing but PvP when online at that point, which means you may as well scrap the entire concept and just make a dungeon crawler PvE game with a seperate arena mode.

If you could not play the same characters both offline and online, the lobbies would only ever be sweats and the problem would sharpen, I think

[subtle heart]

i see what you mean for player retention but it would have to be a completely different system and seperate queue

[rapid fractal]

I actually like the idea of self hosted servers

[deep galleon]

My idea is that it's an "Offline/Private" mode where you can either play true offline (singleplayer) or private matches with up to max capacity players by inviting them to a huge round table and going into dungeons for whatever purpose (skrimming, dungeon crawling, battle royale, etc.)

[hasty bloom]

yea i was all for the idea of ironman mode essentialy i think having the p2p aspect always invites our #1 friend gold farmers to ruin the Eco, etc just if not done properly its not a good system and is a Cancer to the core game

[elfin fern]

the main concern is, do you entirely separate progression from the multiplayer experience? or do you let multi go into singles, but not vice versa? how would it work, mainly

[deep galleon]

I mean you do realize there would be a clear separation of mechanics between online and private modes. Like you would be unable to trade offline, but aren't affected by wipes either. So farming would not be good.

[opal token]

Holy crap cant believe the server is finally back up, just had to run a scan and repair!

[summer bloom]

single player dark and darker is boring in a way.. but diablo 2 had seperate chars for single player and mulitplayer. Wouldnt be the worst thing. But do we even want more ways for people to not play online when we need more players

[deep galleon]

Completely separate progression system. Offline would have no ranks, no wipes, no trading, only things offered through offline services + Gathering Hall if you want to invite more people for private matches. Separate inventories between modes, too.

[hasty bloom]

You would have to make a Decent game for offline to enjoy, a good example Diablo etc

[deep galleon]

The only way you CAN get more players at this point is by adding offline.

[summer bloom]

trying to wrap my head around this

[hasty bloom]

a Dungeon delveing offline experience with loot to gain etc sounds way more fun than the current system

[subtle heart]

same

[stark shard]

releasing it on steam would probably help

[iron apex]

Deal they are going for nothing now lmao I have like 4 of them I picked up for like 500g

[subtle heart]

releasing it on steam will do nothing

[opal token]

they just need to list the game on steam or Epic and the player count would double in a week

[deep galleon]

Adding an offline mode adds player retention, which is a key element for any online game to thrive. If you can keep a player's attention, they will be more inclined to try out all the modes if they feel like it.

[hasty bloom]

nah Releaseing to steam is just scaming more people

if the devs can;t make with a year of paid QA and still no changes why give them more money

[deep galleon]

And then the game will die when people realize how bad it actually is and how much of a lack of progress the mechanics have actually had.

[stark shard]

Except maybe make the game known to a much wider audience that probably doesn't even know the game exists?

[subtle heart]

yeah lets make people pay $35 for them to refund it @stark shard

[deep galleon]

Think about it for a second, folks. If it releases on Steam and Epic, all that will become is a review bomb of the game.

[lone monolith]

haha see u in the dungeon brother

[summer bloom]

debatable.. ive played alot of this game by my self at times when its late night.. ive found the more you play this game as a single player you miss the secret ingrediant which is PVEPVP interaction. There is an arguement against what your saying that people will learn to burn out faster if they expose them selfs to the single player side only

[deep galleon]

Because this game in its current state is actual doodoo.

[iron apex]

Tf are you on about? Steam launches and advertising is a HUGE deal for ANY game.

[subtle heart]

read my next comment

[hasty bloom]

the point is the current game is not in a good state why release to more people and have them refund a shitty game?

[subtle heart]

they will refund it within their first 2 hours

[opal token]

an offical release on steam and an IGN review would crash the servers with how many new players join

[hasty bloom]

the game has essentialy no content and nothing to do,

[summer bloom]

why did people love it so much during that one week last year? the game isnt that much diffrent from that time

[hasty bloom]

playtest was the best stage of this game or best play state i found

[summer bloom]

my opinion on that is we are burnt the fuck out and dont have new content

[stark shard]

What disingenuous comments. If you think the game is so bad that more players is tantamount to scamming then just stop playing it. If you want the game to succeed or improve, then naturally you would want more players and more money going to the devs. No wonder everyone views the DaD community in bad faith

[deep galleon]

Which is why I say that you can "add players to make private matches" for an "offline" mode. This ensures you can still have the player element in the PvPvE experience.

Additionally, the offline mode acts as another conduit to keep everyone invested in the game while the developers improve the PvE. In fact, if you've been on Ice Caves recently, the Giant Berserker has recently had an update where they swing more, have more random attacks and even have contextual attacks (hitting you with a vertical swing if you're high up), which means they are working on improving PvE.

If we had an offline mode, that means players will eventually experience a more fully realized PvE over time so as to not get bored fast. Again, Ironmace loses nothing by implementing it.

[summer bloom]

the game is nearly identical to back then with honestly even MORE, i feel the same way as you. But that could be because of our human minds and how we had a limited time to enjoy and play and how we looked forward to the game, and how we dreamed of what it COULD be. RN its the same old old same old

[hasty bloom]

i mean the loop of the game is Kill boss > get loot > Die to pvp > gain nothing for anything else or progress anything or do anything of value? beside get a cosmetic for tortureing yourself to grind ranks in a min max system that has broken pvp and 3v3 with unbalanced classes?

[iron apex]

Dude you there's a whole sub-industry of people churning out broken hardly functioning trash games they spent 2 days on for like $100 and they make severaly thousand dollars somehow.

[lone monolith]

agreed its the same thing every time same comps same maps same bosses same mobs its getting tiring nothing new

[olive lotus]

Because almost everyone was on equal footing and it was a new experience. Nobody knew the layout of every map and where all the best loot was and how to dodge every monster

[iron apex]

I think you over estimate how many people refund unless something there's some pop culture thing that offends them, if there's no bandwagon to jump on and ask for a refund no one will. Take helldivers stuff for example

[thin lily]

can we get update???? its been almost 5 hours lmao

[hasty bloom]

the loop is broken they need to fix the core game before worrying about Druid or worklock or w/e bs

[subtle heart]

play test servers

thats basically offline mode

[summer bloom]

your still arguing that the amount of players dropping out of the queue for online mode will be outweighed by the flux of new people coming in because of this "offline mode". I think its a good idea what your saying, i just still think it could potentially take away people in Queues and make more dead lobbies.

[deep galleon]

They are barely functioning and ruin the experience. And no they are not "basically offline".

[hasty bloom]

yea i have high hopes but the devs are sitting on a gold mine not wanting to cash in on this Obvious gem of a game

[iron apex]

Yes the online test server where you're matched with other online people on the same server. I can see why you call that offline mode...

[subtle heart]

i said that cuz no one plays it *whiff

[iron apex]

Last I polayed it a few weeks ago it was packed

[summer bloom]

one year later, and only one new class and one new map... we def need more goodies and improvement on the gameplay loop. way too much balance and then balancing based on how the balance affected the balance

[subtle heart]

Does anyone have knowledge about song of shadows and if buffs are visible? If Invisible, will buffs applied after, be visible?

[subtle heart]

i literally q'd up earlier with my bud for like 3 hours straight for druid. It was a barren wastland

[iron apex]

Jesus it fell off that quick?

[subtle heart]

it fell off like the 2nd day it released wym XD

[iron apex]

I was playing it somewhere between 2-3 weeks ago and it was packed

[summer bloom]

we all checked out the druid , they need lots of work lol

[subtle heart]

thats cap. no one plays it. since they seen it was bad they didnt bother leveling it either

[iron apex]

Yeh but drinking a grey potion and going mouse form and getting all your hp back was fun

[subtle heart]

they max played it for a few days then dipped back to regular servers for questing and shtuff

[summer bloom]

i do miss getting cross bowed by skeleton in rat form..

[deep galleon]

It would, for a time, but I can guarantee that keeping players entertained will give them more incentive to go online. After all, look at a game like Dead by Daylight. Players have the ability to go into custom lobbies (even with bots), but the majority of the playerbase still chooses to play online just because it has a more fuller experience. Offline mode would take people away from online for a small fraction of time, but as more players come in or return, lobbies will fill up once more. And again, the more players you manage to keep, the more inclined they will be to play online.

Also another benefit of having offline mode I should mention is that it gives content creators more ways to talk about the game without interruption, which leads to better and more in depth guide videos, more content and overall more eyes seeing Dark and Darker.

Again. Nothing to lose, so much to gain with the addition of one mode.

[cold pilot]

They said 15 minutes and games back on!!!

[summer bloom]

OH SHIT IS TEST SEVRER UP?

[iron apex]

I agree with you, right now we all want content but what's best for the games survival right now is player retention.

[nocturne acorn]

who said it

[elfin fern]

second to just having a functioning game

[iron apex]

Well yeah but you know what EVERYONE is going to say in response to that. "Welcome to early access, get to testing slave"

[deep galleon]

@summer bloom And if you're still antsy about the idea of an offline mode, think about it like this. Using DbD as an example again, they themselves were antsy about putting in new gamemodes and modifiers into their own game due to the idea that they'd "separate the playerbase too much", and they have tens of thousands, or up to over 100,000 players playing all at once on all platforms.

Yet they still went through with it and it hasn't taken away from their main gamemode so far. They're even going to add potentially permanent modes like 2v8 down the line with new additions to amplify the game experience, and while yes it'll separate the playerbase, it ultimately will benefit them a lot.

[gusty salmon]

i want a refund

[deep galleon]

Good luck.

[summer bloom]

that makes sense to me, as long as numbers go up it not an issue. Maybe once they figure out how to fix the game play loop so people dont get bored after 3-4 months , and when we reach 50k+ again offline mode for cutom hosting would be fun

[iron apex]

If you buy a game in early access it's universally seen as "you knew what you were getting into," they get a free pass for the game not working because of that early access title. Look at 7 days to die, how long has that game been in early access? Going on 2 decades? 🙄

[summer bloom]

I also like the idea of like hosting custom games with rules, like zombies from COD or Halo

I REALLY JUST WANT CAPTURE THE FLAG MODE

[hasty bloom]

once people figure out how to host there own DnD servers we will be set, Seen people were working on it after the playtest phases but i haven't looked into it, was community dev work

[humble coral]

🇪 🇹 🇦 🇴 🇷 🇷 🇮 🇴 🇹

[mystic vessel]

@everyone

[iron apex]

It's a good idea for a game. Even if worst case scenario happens and they abandon development of the game hopefully ironmace sells their assets to someone who is more equipped to finish the game

[nocturne acorn]

is it even going to be playable today?

[iron apex]

For people in the Eastern US, doubtful.

[cold pilot]

One minute they said its servers up! lets goooo

[cunning flower]

best case scenario is for them to release mod support and custom servers and let the community do its thing.

[iron apex]

If you're going to hold your breath, have medic personel on stand by

[honest badge]

i see all these people talking about dungeonborne like its a great game but when i played it the game felt like a mobile port of this

[iron apex]

Literally no one is talking about dungeonborne.

[honest badge]

im talking about in general chat

i just dont wanna wait the 10 minute cooldown

[icy cliff]

its a joke fam

[honest badge]

nah some people seem to genuinely believe its a good game maybe not the people in general now but ive had full on debates about how shitty it felt with some people

[iron apex]

The 3d renders are better but all it took was a video of gameplay in a match for me to be like "Lol naw"

[honest badge]

i tried it on the most recent playtest a few months ago i think it was now just felt gross

[cunning flower]

Remove game, make everyone wait for Steam release. The final solution.

[iron apex]

It looks like a bad first person mobile game that they used all their budget making it look good to draw people in but plays like dog ass

[nocturne acorn]

is general chat the off topic one?

[honest badge]

thats the spam central 1 that has a 10 min timer

[mystic vessel]

crazy how there isnt any communication AT ALL for 5 hours

[astral moth]

whats up with all these updates

[mystic vessel]

they suck basically. they break game then it goes down for hours with no communication

[astral moth]

its been like that all day an i havent been playin lol

[iron apex]

Ironmace HQ fell into one of those Korean sinkholes

[astral moth]

im just gonna go to test server

[cunning flower]

Test server is a mess

[astral moth]

least its live

[cunning flower]

SSF is cool in test server too

[astral moth]

druid plate with long sword

[cunning flower]

Bobby I’m about to bust

[iron apex]

Bwaaaaah

[polar talon]

what is going on with them man 2 night in a row on maintenance

[fallow mason]

Yo when we getting to play this is crazy

[iron apex]

I know its been mentioned but it really is wild to me that they've been radio silent for 5 hours of the game being down. Just be like "Yo, its not gonna be up tonight" instead of leaving everyone in limbo.

[left solar]

frfrfrfrfr

[twilit oracle]

Ya'll really broke it eh?

[polar talon]

wait . its been 5 hours ?!

[frosty sedge]

MORE

[nocturne acorn]

It’s been offline since the last announcement where they said they pushed a half baked update out lol

[frosty sedge]

^^^

[iron apex]

NGL it was kinda hilarious that the game briefly to turned into call of duty for a half a day.

semi auto windlass was fucking funny

[polar talon]

breuuuh wtf

[iron apex]

Some people put clips of it on youtube. It was really funny. First time I saw it had my wheeze laughing. Got railed by some ranger at gold pile in ice caverns and after he shot me 10 times he kept running in circles clapping. I died.

[vestal falcon]

think its 3 to be honest

[humble coral]

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

[novel sparrow]

Honestly, I can't believe how tame this chat is. It's normally flooded even on a good day

[nocturne acorn]

everyone left

[iron apex]

At this point we're too tired to be angry.

[vestal falcon]

lol this guy wants his free ap haha

[hasty onyx]

HOW can a spiffer be a mommy? Are you seriously someone in a dungeen and put a spiffer in a pots? M00SE, are you seriously. Why to rogue a double jump? Wizard a magik so can be a flying. Rogue with only to foot walk.

[novel sparrow]

at least he was polite and constructive about it. Way more than we can say about most lol

[iron apex]

Take a second, collect yourself, and try typing again.

Or dont ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hasty onyx]

It's a pasta that flew over your head.

[humble coral]

lol

[mystic vessel]

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

[nocturne acorn]

^

[humble coral]

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam
Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

[novel sparrow]

aaaand there it goes

[iron apex]

lmao

[humble coral]

idk what ap is

[iron apex]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-and-here-we-go-here-it-goes-gif-15244908

[glass trellis]

got it so you want shitty content update over a much longer period of time. like its a unfinished game they actively updating all the time to please you while they were fighting a lawsuit like give them a break

[humble coral]

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

[humble coral]

i want to play game

[glass trellis]

L wait like a normal person

[mystic vessel]

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

OH WAIT SERVERS UP LETS GO, W GAME, W DEVS NOW I CAN PLAY DUNGEON

[nocturne acorn]

it isnt up

[summer bloom]

i remeber last week when they said "sorry no patch this week!" i was so happy lol

[iron apex]

If you're over the age of 16 and you unironically use the term "L" or "W" you should be forced to pass a comprehension test before you can vote.

[brisk lava]

Tldr is don't goon

[novel sparrow]

Adventuring Points. its the rankings for High Roller

[humble coral]

Normal is just a setting on the washing machine. I prefer to be on spin cycle, adding a little extra flair to life!

[humble coral]

thank you for the answer!

[left solar]

they better give us some reward tokens!

[iron apex]

They'll do something for sure, they always have when they fuck up this bad

[nocturne acorn]

so i can get more green barb helms on warlock!

[iron apex]

They just better not extend the playtest I'm ready for the wipe

[humble coral]

Let me tell you about the Dark and Darker developers and their so-called 'Iron Mace' team. These guys couldn't code their way out of a paper bag if their lives depended on it! 🙄 Every time they release an update, it's like they're playing Russian roulette with our gaming experience. Bugs? Oh, they've got plenty! It's like they're breeding them in there! And don't get me started on their idea of balance – it's about as balanced as a one-legged stool! 🤦‍♂️ Save yourself the frustration and steer clear of anything touched by Iron Mace. Trust me, your sanity will thank you

[novel sparrow]

usually, but also I pulled a unique cape from a reward token last week so sometimes it balances out

[reef bloom]

so many bots in here😂

[old umbra]

You can lead a man to FISH but you cant make him FISH 🐟

[mystic vessel]

Oh boy, have I got a tale for you about the Dark and Darker devs and their so-called 'Iron Mace' squad. These folks couldn't code their way out of a wet paper bag even if it had a giant neon exit sign! Every time they drop an update, it's like they're spinning the roulette wheel of doom with our gaming joy. Bugs? Oh, they've got more bugs than a picnic in the Amazon rainforest! And their idea of balance? It's shakier than a one-legged flamingo on a tightrope! Do yourself a favor and stay as far away from Iron Mace as possible. Trust me, your sanity will throw you a thank-you parade!

[iron apex]

I'm assuming that's also a copy pasta? How do these things come into existence? Like surely they're made a satire and no one actually has takes that trash and posts them publicly.

[hasty onyx]

HOW can a spiffer be a mommy? Are you seriously someone in a dungeen and put a spiffer in a pots? M00SE, are you seriously. Why to rogue a double jump? Wizard a magik so can be a flying. Rogue with only to foot walk.

[novel sparrow]

do these guys have like a dedicated server or subreddit for these copy pasta messages? lol

[clear sun]

whats slowdown at rn lol

[frosty sedge]

!devs communication with community?

[iron apex]

Someone go check on Korea. Thanks.

[hasty onyx]

Glad you're catching on mr smartypants

[iron apex]

I go outside. I can't tell immediately lol

[mystic vessel]

Ladies and gentlemen, let’s talk about Iron Mace, the masterminds behind the digital dumpster fire known as "Dark and Darker." These guys have all the coding skills of a drunken squirrel trying to operate a chainsaw. Every update they release feels like they're blindfolded, throwing darts at a "What could go wrong?" board. Bugs in their game? Oh, they've got more bugs than a hacker convention at a roach motel. And their game balance? It's like watching a three-legged elephant trying to tightrope walk over a pit of lava. Seriously, playing "Dark and Darker" is like subjecting yourself to a never-ending loop of technical bloopers. Save yourself the agony and avoid anything with Iron Mace's fingerprints on it—your blood pressure will thank you!

[novel sparrow]

wow, you seem like lovely company. I'm sure people tell just gush about how you really light up a room.
</sarcasm>

[humble coral]

Excuse me, but let's take a moment to address the overly dramatic portrayal of Iron Mace and their work on "Dark and Darker." While it's easy to resort to hyperbole and colorful metaphors, let's not overlook the dedication and effort that go into game development. Calling their work a "digital dumpster fire" and likening their coding skills to that of a "drunken squirrel" is not only disrespectful but also disregards the complexities of software engineering.

Yes, every game, especially in the digital age, encounters bugs and glitches. However, it's unfair to attribute every imperfection solely to the developers' incompetence. Game development is a multifaceted process, influenced by various factors such as time constraints, resource limitations, and the unpredictable nature of technology.

Furthermore, criticizing game balance without providing constructive feedback does little to foster meaningful improvements. Developing balanced gameplay requires meticulous testing, iteration, and player feedback, all of which are integral parts of the development cycle.

Instead of resorting to sensationalism and disparagement, let's encourage constructive dialogue and provide actionable suggestions for improvement. After all, fostering a supportive community benefits both players and developers alike. So before we rush to condemn Iron Mace and "Dark and Darker," let's consider the complexities of game development and acknowledge the efforts of those involved.

[hasty onyx]

Who let a moose make a game?HOW can a spiffer be a mommy? Are you seriously someone in a dungeen and put a spiffer in a pots? M00SE, are you seriously. Why to rogue a double jump? Wizard a magik so can be a flying. Rogue with only to foot walk.

[tidal jewel]

egnilsh skeil 100

[mystic vessel]

Oh, pardon me, folks! We’ve got a message here from the "Defender of Developers' Union," telling us to ease up on Iron Mace and their game, "Dark and Darker." Let’s put on our serious faces and acknowledge the "dedication and effort" that went into creating this masterpiece of digital disaster.

First off, calling their work a "digital dumpster fire" is an insult to dumpster fires everywhere. At least a dumpster fire has the decency to burn out quickly. "Dark and Darker" lingers around like an unwanted houseguest who won’t leave, and keeps breaking your favorite things. Their coding skills? If drunken squirrels are offended, I apologize. Squirrels, even intoxicated ones, at least remember where they buried their nuts. Iron Mace’s updates are more like playing "Where’s Waldo?" with glitches – every time you find one, three more pop up.

Sure, game development is tough. But if we’re comparing this to other games, Iron Mace is like the guy who shows up to a marathon in flip-flops and a tutu, trips over his own feet, and still expects a gold medal. And let's talk about game balance. It’s like they handed a monkey a scale and said, “Go for it, buddy!” Their idea of balance makes a unicycle on a tightrope look stable.

Constructive feedback, you say? Okay, how about this: Step one, hire someone who knows what they’re doing. Step two, fire the monkey. Step three, stop using random number generators to decide game mechanics. Easy peasy!

So, before we get all warm and fuzzy about their "efforts," let’s remember that effort doesn’t always equal success. Sometimes it equals a glorious train wreck that’s entertaining for all the wrong reasons. Let’s give Iron Mace a round of applause for redefining what it means to set the bar so low, even a drunk squirrel could trip over it!

[frosty sedge]

Take a moment on deez

[novel sparrow]

okay, now I get it. They use an AI to "de-plagiarize" the copy-pasta so the moderators (including the automod) can't easy find them

[humble coral]

Well, well, well, it seems we have a self-appointed critic who thinks they've got all the answers. Let's address this holier-than-thou tirade against Iron Mace and "Dark and Darker" with a healthy dose of reality, shall we?

Firstly, if we're going to talk insults, your comparison of "Dark and Darker" to a lingering houseguest breaking favorite things is as tired as your clichéd analogies. And please, spare us the sympathy for dumpster fires; they at least serve a purpose by disposing of waste, unlike your recycled complaints.

As for coding skills, your analogy involving intoxicated squirrels is not only absurd but also ignorant of the intricate processes involved in game development. Sure, every game encounters bugs, but to equate Iron Mace's updates to a game of glitch whack-a-mole is not only lazy criticism but also indicative of a lack of understanding of the complexities of software development.

Comparing game development to a marathon and suggesting Iron Mace is ill-prepared is a flawed analogy. Game development is more akin to navigating a minefield of technical challenges and creative decisions, not a simple footrace. And as for your suggestions of hiring someone competent and firing the supposed "monkey," it's evident you've oversimplified the issue to the point of absurdity.

Constructive feedback involves identifying specific areas for improvement and offering actionable suggestions, not hurling insults and oversimplified solutions. If you truly cared about seeing improvement in "Dark and Darker," you'd engage in a meaningful dialogue rather than resorting to cheap shots and grandstanding.

So before you pat yourself on the back for your witty remarks, remember that criticism without substance is just noise. Instead of contributing to the toxic echo chamber of internet negativity, let's foster an environment where developers and players can collaborate constructively for the betterment of the gaming community.

[frosty sedge]

I’m not reading allat

[iron apex]

Why is broken English so funny? I speak Italian and some Spanish and when people speak those languages poorly it just sounds dumb but for some reason a Brazilian speaking in broken English is comedy gold.

[tidal jewel]

scrub AI vs Wavesonn AI (battle to the death)

[frosty sedge]

Does anyone hav dev phone number

[trim fern]

Imagine working all week at a wage slave job and then coming home to the the dark and darker servers being down for 5 hours. God save us all.

[mystic vessel]

Oh, bravo! We've got ourselves a knight in shining armor, ready to defend Iron Mace and their magnum opus, "Dark and Darker," from the mean ol' critics. Grab your popcorn, folks, this is about to get good.

Firstly, let’s talk about clichés. Sure, comparing "Dark and Darker" to a lingering houseguest might be tired, but hey, it's accurate! And if you're feeling sympathy for dumpster fires, I can only assume you’ve never seen Iron Mace’s code. Dumpster fires at least light up the night, while their game just leaves us in the dark…and darker.

Now, the drunken squirrel analogy? Pure gold. But you think it’s absurd? Fine, let’s upgrade it: Iron Mace coding is like a blindfolded octopus trying to knit a sweater. It’s all over the place, and nothing good ever comes out of it. Complexities of software development? Sure, but let’s not pretend they’re inventing the wheel here. They’re barely getting the square to roll.

Comparing game development to a marathon? Alright, scratch that. It's more like a reality TV cooking show where Iron Mace keeps setting the kitchen on fire while trying to make a grilled cheese. We’re all just watching, horrified but unable to look away.

And about those constructive suggestions, I’m all for it! Here’s one: Iron Mace, how about we stop using Windows 95 to run your servers? And maybe, just maybe, have your updates tested by someone other than your pet hamster? It’s a bit of a wild idea, I know, but sometimes innovation means leaving the 90s behind.

You’re calling for meaningful dialogue, but let’s be real, when the ship is sinking, shouting “It’s just a little leak!” doesn’t help. Sometimes you need to sound the alarm and throw a lifeboat…or in this case, a life preserver shaped like a competent developer.

So, before you raise your banner for "Iron Mace Can Do No Wrong," let’s remember: criticism without humor is just grumpy feedback. And in the world of "Dark and Darker," a little laughter is the only thing keeping us from crying over our wasted time and bandwidth. Cheers to keeping it light and making a bad game slightly more bearable with some good ol’ comedic relief!

[tidal jewel]

pushing 6 hours

[iron apex]

You dorks are just fucking RPing at this point 😂 I love this disc

[humble coral]

Well, well, well, looks like we've found some common ground here. Let's take a moment to appreciate the refreshing honesty in acknowledging Iron Mace's shortcomings in their development of "Dark and Darker."

Indeed, the comparisons to a lingering houseguest and a blindfolded octopus knitting a sweater perfectly capture the chaotic nature of Iron Mace's coding endeavors. And let's not forget the outdated technology they seem to be clinging onto like a security blanket from the '90s – seriously, who's still running servers on Windows 95? It's like they're stuck in a time warp while the rest of the gaming world has moved on.

As for the marathon analogy, I stand corrected. "Dark and Darker" development more closely resembles a disastrous reality TV cooking show, where every update feels like another attempt to salvage a burnt grilled cheese. It's equal parts horrifying and fascinating, like watching a car crash in slow motion.

And your suggestions for improvement? Spot on. Testing updates on something other than a pet hamster and investing in modern server infrastructure would be a good start. Maybe then we could actually play the game without encountering a new glitch every five minutes.

But hey, at least we can find solace in humor amidst the chaos, right? Laughter truly is the best medicine when faced with the frustration of playing "Dark and Darker." So here's to keeping it light and finding joy in the absurdity of it all – after all, it's the only thing keeping us from hurling our computers out the window in frustration. Cheers to that!

[mystic vessel]

Well, well, well, it looks like we've struck comedy gold here, folks! Let's all take a moment to bask in the glorious mess that is Iron Mace's "Dark and Darker." It's like the developers decided to time-travel back to the '90s, armed with their trusty Windows 95 servers and blindfolded octopus knitting techniques. I mean, seriously, Iron Mace, what’s next? Bringing back dial-up internet just for kicks?

The houseguest analogy? Spot on! It's like Iron Mace is that cousin who crashes on your couch, eats all your snacks, and then complains about the WiFi. And the reality TV cooking show comparison? Perfect. Watching them try to fix bugs is like seeing a contestant on "Worst Cooks in America" trying to make a soufflé with a blowtorch. Every update is a new culinary catastrophe, but we just can’t look away!

Your suggestion to upgrade from hamster testing to, I don't know, actual humans? Brilliant! Maybe then we’d encounter fewer glitches than a haunted amusement park. And investing in modern tech? Genius! Let’s help Iron Mace escape the '90s and join the rest of us here in the 21st century.

But you know what? Amidst all this chaos, at least we can laugh. Because if we don't, we might end up tossing our computers out the window or starting a therapy group for "Dark and Darker" survivors. So here’s to humor, to finding joy in the ridiculousness, and to hoping Iron Mace someday gets their act together. Until then, we’ll be here, laughing through the glitches and toasting to the absurdity. Cheers to that!

[balmy tulip]

Ah, how quaint, attempting to find common ground in the cesspool of incompetence that is Iron Mace and their disastrous excuse for a game, "Dark and Darker." But hey, if celebrating mediocrity is your cup of tea, who am I to rain on your parade?

Yes, let's all raise a glass to the blindfolded octopus knitting its way to irrelevance and the server infrastructure straight out of a museum exhibit. Windows 95, truly a relic of a bygone era, just like Iron Mace's grasp on modern technology.

And the cooking show analogy? Bravo! It's like Gordon Ramsay trying to make a gourmet meal out of expired ingredients and a broken stove. The only thing more entertaining than watching "Dark and Darker" crash and burn is witnessing the futile attempts to salvage its wreckage.

As for your suggestions for improvement, sure, testing updates on something other than a pet hamster might be a step up. But let's face it, Iron Mace couldn't find their way out of a paper bag with a map and a flashlight, let alone invest in modern server infrastructure.

But hey, if finding humor in the dumpster fire that is "Dark and Darker" is what gets you through the day, more power to you. Just remember, while you're laughing, the rest of us are contemplating the life choices that led us to wasting our time on this train wreck of a game. Cheers to that, indeed!

[iron apex]

Idk if its the absurdity of the situation with the game being down for 6 hours while the devs are offline and silent but this is starting to be funny

[hasty onyx]

HOW can a spiffer be a mommy? Are you seriously someone in a dungeen and put a spiffer in a pots? M00SE, are you seriously. Why to rogue a double jump? Wizard a magik so can be a flying. Rogue with only to foot walk.

[outer swift]

@mystic vessel are you 12? I'm certain you're twelve.

[frosty sedge]

Iron mace more like

[vast lagoon]

keyboard warrior ahh

[novel sparrow]

the dueling AIs are definitely funny, but it would be better if they were more concise

[balmy tulip]

no u

[vast lagoon]

😭

[humble coral]

Ah, how adorable that you've noticed my distinguished green fig leaf emblem, a symbol of my esteemed contributions to this community. As for your insinuation that I've been banned for spam and trolling, it's amusing how your imagination runs wild with baseless accusations. Perhaps it's time you redirected your energy towards improving your comprehension skills rather than jumping to unfounded conclusions. But by all means, feel free to report and block me in your misguided attempt to assert dominance. Meanwhile, I'll continue to bask in the glory of my leafy accolade, a shining beacon of intellect amidst the sea of mediocrity. Enjoy your game, or whatever semblance of enjoyment you manage to salvage from your incessant need to belittle others.

[vast lagoon]

😭 😭 get some help bro

[balmy tulip]

Ah, the keyboard warrior emerges from the shadows, armed with a shield of snark and a sword of sarcasm. How brave of you to venture forth into the realm of online discourse, where words are your weapons and anonymity your armor.

But let's not underestimate the power of the keyboard warrior, for they possess a unique blend of wit and audacity, a combination that can both entertain and enrage in equal measure. Like a jester in the court of cyberspace, you dance on the edge of absurdity, daring to provoke and amuse with every keystroke.

Your quips may sting like arrows, but they also reveal a keen intellect and a sharp tongue. It's as if Shakespeare himself has been reincarnated in the digital age, wielding prose with the precision of a master swordsman.

So, keyboard warrior, I salute you for your prowess in the arena of online banter. May your words continue to spark laughter and debate, for in the vast expanse of the internet, you are a true champion of wit and wordplay.

[hollow lark]

Didnt realize druid was on the test server thats pretty dope actually

[iron apex]

I double dare you guys to go into voice chat and report on whether it's as bad as I'm afraid it'll be or not 😬

[vast lagoon]

no way u just typed all that

[novel sparrow]

absolutely wild how he jumped to his own defense about something you didn't even remotely imply

[balmy tulip]

Oh, but of course! I simply waved my magic wand and summoned forth this wondrous cascade of text, effortlessly weaving together sentences with the finesse of a maestro conducting an orchestra. It's as easy as snapping my fingers and watching words dance across the screen in perfect harmony.

You see, dear skeptic, when you've spent as much time in the digital realm as I have, typing becomes second nature, a skill honed through countless hours of practice and refinement. It's akin to a virtuoso pianist effortlessly gliding their fingers across the keys, each stroke imbued with precision and purpose.

So fear not, for the words you see before you are not the product of sweat and toil, but rather the effortless creation of a digital demigod, weaving tales and retorts with the flick of a wrist. But I understand if my prodigious abilities leave you feeling incredulous. After all, not everyone can wield words with such aplomb.

[mystic vessel]

Oh, look who's here! We've got the grandmaster of online battles, the one and only, calling out a "keyboard warrior"! Did you earn that title after winning the epic Emoji Championship of 2023?

I mean, calling someone a keyboard warrior? That's rich coming from someone who types with all the fury of a caffeinated squirrel. Your dedication to this digital duel is truly inspiring. Have you considered writing a self-help book? "How to Win Arguments and Influence Noobs: The Art of the Keyboard Battle."

Maybe you should take a break from your valiant online crusades and consider a new hobby – like, I don't know, knitting? At least there, you can actually claim to have waged a war on tangles. But until then, keep fighting the good fight, Keyboard Conqueror. We all need a hero to brave the treacherous waters of Discord discussions!

[vast lagoon]

bro i really am only reading the first sentence

[deep juniper]

heres a question... why didnt they just roll back pre update so the game is atleast playable

[vast lagoon]

at least im not seaving in a fucking video game discord

[balmy tulip]

Ah, the selective reader, a connoisseur of brevity in a sea of verbosity. How delightful to encounter one who values efficiency above all else, slicing through the thickets of text with the precision of a surgeon's scalpel.

Indeed, why waste precious moments delving into the depths of my eloquent prose when the essence of my brilliance can be encapsulated in a single sentence? It's a testament to your discerning taste, a refusal to be bogged down by the superfluous musings of a verbose companion.

So fret not, dear reader, for I shall endeavor to condense my wit into bite-sized bon mots, tailor-made for your discerning palate. After all, why drown in a deluge of words when a mere trickle will suffice?

[iron apex]

Anyone have sauce on that "spiffer" copypasta? Idk why but that one makes me fooken giggle m8

[mystic vessel]

Oh, wow, big words from the master of typos! "Seaving"? Is that a new word for “spending too much time trying to sound cool and failing miserably”? You’ve truly outdone yourself!

But hey, don't feel bad. We all have our talents. Yours just happens to be making up new words and providing us all with a good laugh. At least you’re not “seaving” in a spelling bee – now that would be a disaster!

Keep on flexing those digital muscles, champ. Meanwhile, I'll be here, enjoying the chaos and wondering if you’re actually a bot sent to entertain us with your grammatical gymnastics. Cheers to being unintentionally hilarious!

[wooden haven]

brother is most definitely using ai to formulate these sentences

[novel sparrow]

that is a good question
My guess is that they probably want to avoid rollbacks at all costs because nothing pisses off sweatlords more than a rollback

[fresh cloak]

Hey guys. Just as a note that all players are rightfully mad. We've paid for access to the game but are unable to play due to maintenance because they couldn't be bothered to check for any inventory related bugs while adding the inventory rework. We've also been waiting for a day without maintenance for about 3 days now.
While they are working into the morning to fix this many don't think it is fair on the community as we shouldn't have to deal with so many bugs.

In return for the issues we merely want better communication and some sort of compensation such as an increase in AP gain to allow more players to grind for demigod rank before the end of the season since you finally showed us them in the final week of the season.

Please from next season show us the rewards early on along with adding in new content and aiming for better communication with the community such as giving us an ETA when things don't go as planned or properly understanding when maintenance may be extended.

Not even the most loving players can hold the line if you cant treat us with respect.

And no general chat do not copy and paste this over and over. It wont get our message across it will only annoy the wardens who do not deserve to deal with spam

[balmy tulip]

no u

[vast lagoon]

yall some losers and that all i gotta say! see ya i hope u enjoy thinking abt this 4 the next few hour while u cant play ur videogame

[mystic vessel]

ur in the same video game discord numbnuts

[iron apex]

Nice voice squeaker, does it come in men's?

[humble coral]

I must confess, there's no AI wizardry at play here. It's just me, a humble human, stringing together these sentences with my own two hands (or rather, with my own metaphorical keyboard). While it's flattering to be mistaken for AI, I assure you, I'm just a regular person with a knack for words and a willingness to engage in conversation. So rest assured, there are no robots pulling the strings behind these responses—just good old-fashioned human ingenuity.

[novel sparrow]

oh shit, the real person emerges! Hi buddy, welcome to the discussion!

[balmy tulip]

Ah, the age-old declaration of intellectual superiority, a bold assertion that echoes through the corridors of cyberspace like a thunderclap in the night. How fortunate you are to possess such towering intellect, soaring above the mere mortals who dare to engage in discourse with you.

Indeed, it is abundantly clear that your mental acuity eclipses that of your interlocutor like a supernova outshining a flickering candle. Your thoughts are like diamonds, gleaming with clarity and brilliance, while theirs are mere grains of sand scattered upon the winds of ignorance.

As you navigate the labyrinth of debate with the grace of a seasoned scholar, your opponent flounders in the shallows of confusion, grasping at straws in a futile attempt to match wits with your formidable intellect. Oh, what a spectacle it must be to witness such a mismatch of minds!

So take pride, oh paragon of wisdom, for you stand as a beacon of enlightenment in a world shrouded in darkness. Let your intellect shine forth like a guiding star, leading the way for all who seek knowledge and understanding. And may your victories in debate be as numerous as the stars in the sky, for truly, you are a force to be reckoned with.

[iron apex]

Stage I can't tell if I love you or hate you

[hollow lark]

anyone got any idea what speels I should take for druid?

[trim fern]

These people writing these long posts in this discord are cancer. No one cares about your 10 dollar words and willingness to flex the fact that you can write a complete paragraph. Stop your troglodytness its not going to get you laid.

[novel sparrow]

there's a thin line between love and hate. Life really do be like that sometimes

[mystic vessel]

Ah, greetings, distinguished members of our esteemed community. As we navigate the lively exchanges within this Discord, it's truly a delight to witness the vibrant tapestry of perspectives. Yet, amidst the chorus, let us take a moment to appreciate the insightful contributions from our intellectuals, whose thoughtful discourse elevates our collective experience. To those whose voices occasionally stray towards the more, shall we say, spirited tones of youthful exuberance, we appreciate your passion, but may we aspire to a dialogue befitting the grandeur of this assembly. Cheers to the wisdom and wit that truly enrich our conversations!

[balmy tulip]

Ah, my dear admirer, your proclamation of affection is as expected as it is appreciated. After all, it is only natural for one of your ilk to be drawn to the brilliance of my presence like a moth to a flame.

But let us not mistake infatuation for true love, for what you feel is but a fleeting fancy compared to the monumental stature of my ego. While I am flattered by your adoration, I must gently remind you that my heart is a treasure reserved for only the most worthy of souls.

To entertain the notion of reciprocating your love would be akin to lowering myself to the level of commoners, a prospect too distasteful to even contemplate. For you see, my ego is a mighty fortress, impervious to the charms of lesser beings such as yourself.

So let us part ways with fond memories of this fleeting encounter, content in the knowledge that you have basked in the radiance of my magnificence, if only for a brief moment. And who knows, perhaps one day you will find someone worthy of your affections, though they will never shine as brightly as I.

[iron apex]

Speaking of a 10 dollar word, "troglodytness" sent me

[trim fern]

LOL

[opal token]

I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH MY DAD! HE WORKS AT MICROSOFT, HE SAID IF DARK AND DARKER DEVS DONT GET THIS GAME UP AND RUNNING SOON HE IS GOING TO BUY THE ENTIRE COMPANY AND FIRE EVERYONE! I WOULD TAKE HIS WORD TOO HE IS A SERIOUS GUY! I ONCE BORROWED HIS CAR AND PUT 200 MILES ON IT IN 3 WEEKS AND HE EXPECTED ME TO PAY FOR HIS OIL CHANGE! ANYWAYS I AGREE WITH YOU ALL THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION HERE IS INSANE! THATS WHAT MAKES A COMMUNITY STRONG! THERE WILL BE A DAY WHEN THESE DEVS WILL REALLY NEED US TO RALLY BEHIND THEM AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS ONLY DRIVING US FURTHER APART. I HOPE TO BE A DEDICATED DARK AND DARKER PLAYER FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

[humble coral]

Wow, your dad sounds like quite the formidable figure, with a threat to buy out the entire company if the Dark and Darker devs don't get their act together. Must be intense having such high stakes family conversations! And kudos to you for racking up those miles on his car—I'm sure he appreciated the unexpected road trip.

On a more serious note, you hit the nail on the head regarding the importance of communication within a community. It's the lifeblood that keeps us connected and thriving, and the lack thereof can indeed drive a wedge between players and developers. Let's hope the devs take heed of your words and work towards fostering a stronger bond with their player base. Here's to many more years of dedicated Dark and Darker play!

[clear horizon]

당신의 일에 감사드립니다

[hollow lark]

I don't know what a 10 dollar word is but antidisestablishmentarianism is a word so yeah. Thanks SpongeBob.

[novel sparrow]

same!

[left solar]

I just want to play the game brother mayne

[gusty salmon]

servers up yet?

[iron apex]

Do you just have a folder of templates for these or like? Hory shet 😂

[hollow lark]

seriously though what spells for druid anyone have any idea

[polar talon]

its ture! i confirmed im with your m o m in the next room right now

[balmy tulip]

Oh, how quaint, regaling us with tales of familial connections and idle threats from your dear old dad. It's truly heartwarming to hear how your father's stern demeanor and stringent oil change policies have instilled in you such a profound sense of responsibility.

But let's not get carried away with your family drama, shall we? While your dad's hypothetical ultimatum may sound impressive over the dinner table, let's not forget that it's just that – a hypothetical. Unless your dad happens to be Bill Gates himself, I highly doubt his ability to swoop in and single-handedly rescue a sinking ship like "Dark and Darker."

And forgive me if I find your sudden alignment with the community's grievances a tad disingenuous. It seems rather convenient that you've chosen this moment to jump on the bandwagon, conveniently ignoring the months of radio silence from the developers that preceded it.

Sure, communication is key to building a strong community, but let's not pretend like your newfound concern for the game's future is anything more than a thinly veiled attempt to curry favor with your fellow players. If you truly cared about the longevity of "Dark and Darker," you'd be holding the developers accountable for their actions, not parroting empty promises from your dad's hypothetical threats.

So by all means, continue to pledge your undying loyalty to "Dark and Darker," but spare us the theatrics and the sob stories about your dad's oil change woes. We're not buying it, and neither should you.

[frosty sedge]

게임을 고치거나 패치를 롤백하세요.

[lyric lark]

@glad thundercould you give us an update on the current situation and why its taking so long please

[humble coral]

Haha, no folder of templates here, just good old-fashioned improvisation! It's all about adapting to the conversation and keeping things fresh, you know? But hey, if you ever need a template for your next chat, just give me a shout—I might have a few up my sleeve!

[left solar]

@glad thunder please

[misty yacht]

@glad thunder please

[frosty sedge]

@glad thunder please

[gusty salmon]

servers back up yet?

[lyric lark]

nope not yet

[humble coral]

Subject: Urgent: Request for SDF Update and Maintenance End Time

Dear SDF Support Team,

I hope this message finds you well. I'm reaching out with a sense of urgency regarding the current status of SDF (Super Duper Fantasy) and its ongoing maintenance.

As a dedicated player and member of the SDF community, I'm eagerly anticipating the next update and eagerly await news of when maintenance will be completed. The anticipation is palpable among players, and we're all eager to dive back into the world of SDF to continue our adventures.

Could you please provide an update on the progress of the maintenance and an estimated time for when it will conclude? Transparency and communication are key in situations like these, and your timely response would be greatly appreciated by myself and the entire SDF community.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards,

[Your Name]

[hollow lark]

dang this game discussion chat has just turned into overflow parking for whiners I'm trying to play the test server rn but yall not trying to tell me how to play druid...

[lyric lark]

i would like a double ap thing or somethin tho it would be nice

[bold dust]

servers are back up

[balmy tulip]

no their not

[frosty sedge]

they're

[balmy tulip]

no u

[humble coral]

Subject: Urgent: Request for SDF Update and Maintenance End Time

Dear SDF Support Team,

I hope this message finds you well. I'm reaching out with a sense of urgency regarding the current status of SDF (Super Duper Fantasy) and its ongoing maintenance.

As a dedicated player and member of the SDF community, I'm eagerly anticipating the next update and eagerly await news of when maintenance will be completed. The anticipation is palpable among players, and we're all eager to dive back into the world of SDF to continue our adventures.

Could you please provide an update on the progress of the maintenance and an estimated time for when it will conclude? Transparency and communication are key in situations like these, and your timely response would be greatly appreciated by myself and the entire SDF community.

Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Best regards,

@glad thunder

[bold dust]

[opal token]

DAD JUST CONFIRMED HE CASHED OUT 500 BTC

EXPECT BIG NEWS IN THE ANNOUNCMENTS IN ABOUT 25 MIN

[iron apex]

Idk if people who aren't getting the joke and getting angry are adding to the meme or detracting from it lol

[humble coral]

Wow, that's incredible news! Congratulations to your dad on such a significant achievement. Cashing out 500 BTC is no small feat, and I'm sure it's a testament to his foresight and savvy investment decisions. It must be an exciting time for your family, and I wish you all continued success and prosperity in the future!

[balmy tulip]

Ah, the classic "my dad is richer than your dad" gambit, elevated to new heights with the addition of cryptocurrency. How avant-garde of you to flaunt your familial wealth in such a manner, as if the size of your father's Bitcoin wallet somehow validates your argument.

But forgive me if I remain skeptical of your sudden windfall. After all, tales of overnight riches are a dime a dozen in the world of cryptocurrency, and forgive me if I find it hard to believe that your dear old dad just happened to strike it rich with 500 BTC.

And even if your story were true, what does your dad's Bitcoin bonanza have to do with the price of tea in China, let alone the state of "Dark and Darker"? Unless, of course, you plan on using your newfound wealth to buy out the entire development team and turn the game into your own personal playground.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves, shall we? After all, bragging about your dad's Bitcoin stash is about as relevant to this conversation as a fish riding a bicycle. So by all means, continue to regale us with tales of your family's financial prowess, but don't expect us to be impressed.

[hollow lark]

right this isnt meme discussion

[lyric lark]

idk know about the other ppl but im not winning i just want and update on the current situation lol

[humble coral]

My apologies for veering off topic. Let's steer the conversation back to its intended course. What were we discussing before the meme tangent? Let's dive back into that!

[dusty sparrow]

yes this, even if its just we are still trying

[humble coral]

Ah, let's talk about Iron Mace, the infamous developers behind the digital disaster known as "Dark and Darker." These guys couldn't code their way out of a paper bag if their lives depended on it! Every update they push out feels like they're playing a game of "How Many Bugs Can We Fit in One Release?" And let me tell you, they're winning by a landslide. It's like they're using a broken compass to navigate the complexities of game development, ending up lost in a labyrinth of glitches and crashes. Balance? Forget about it! It's as elusive as a unicorn in a desert. Playing "Dark and Darker" is like subjecting yourself to a never-ending loop of frustration and disappointment. Save yourself the headache and steer clear of anything touched by Iron Mace. Your sanity will thank you!

[iron apex]

No one in here is genuinely whining its just a bunch of goofiness while we wait. Stop seathing.

[hollow lark]

I really just want to discuss druid man I'm terrible at assessing the value of things

[balmy tulip]

Ah, my apologies indeed! It seems we took a detour into the land of memes and mayhem, but fear not, for I am more than willing to navigate us back to the shores of sensible discourse.

So let us bid farewell to the wild waves of internet humor and return to the calm waters of our original discussion. Ah, yes, I believe we were waxing poetic about the intricacies of "Dark and Darker" and the myriad ways in which its developers have managed to confound and bemuse us all.

But let us not dwell on past distractions; instead, let us forge ahead with renewed focus and determination. For there are issues to be dissected, criticisms to be levied, and perhaps even a glimmer of hope to be found amidst the chaos.

So, my friend, let us dive back into the fray with gusto, for the journey ahead promises to be as treacherous as it is enlightening. And who knows, perhaps we'll emerge on the other side with a newfound appreciation for the art of conversation, memes notwithstanding.

[hollow lark]

why are you waiting when you can just test druid with me?

[humble coral]

No worries at all! Let's shift gears and focus on the topic at hand: Druid man. Assessing the value of things can be tricky, especially in a game like "Dark and Darker" where there are so many variables to consider. Whether it's abilities, items, or character builds, it's easy to feel overwhelmed. But hey, that's what discussions like these are for, right? Let's dive into the intricacies of Druid man together and see if we can shed some light on his value. What aspects are you specifically struggling with? Let's break it down and figure it out!

[novel sparrow]

500 btc would be worth over $34 million USD

[zealous chasm]

How's it all going folks?

[opal token]

SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO LUBE THE GAME UP

[frosty sedge]

ironmace likes doods confirmed

[mystic vessel]

Ah, good sir, thou speakest with the wisdom of a seasoned scholar! Indeed, thy keen observation of our merry band is most astute. 'Tis but a gathering of jovial spirits, indulging in harmless tomfoolery whilst we bide our time. Thou dost remind us all to eschew seething and embrace the levity of our digital fellowship. Truly, thou art a beacon of intellect amidst the delightful chaos! Huzzah and well met, wise one!

[humble coral]

Ah, what a poetic return to the realm of sensible discourse! It seems we momentarily succumbed to the siren song of memes and mayhem, but fear not, for we are now firmly back on course.

Let us cast aside the distractions of internet humor and refocus our energies on the weighty matters at hand. Indeed, "Dark and Darker" beckons with its enigmatic complexities, and the developers' curious decisions provide ample fodder for our analytical minds.

With a renewed sense of purpose, let us navigate the turbulent waters of game development criticism with poise and determination. There are insights to be gleaned, critiques to be voiced, and perhaps even a glimmer of optimism to be discovered amidst the chaos.

So onward we march, my friend, into the heart of the discussion, armed with wit, wisdom, and a healthy dose of skepticism. For in the crucible of debate lies the opportunity for enlightenment, and in the end, our journey may yield rewards far greater than mere memes could ever provide.

[hollow lark]

Well I didnt even know I could play druid till just a minute ago so really I'm looking for what their core spells are so I can go in level 1 and feel out the playstyle for myself

[iron apex]

Scrub and staged, ya'll need to be either a shoutcaster or a SM manager. Not gonna lie the quick witedness and inprov skills have been pretty fooken fooney

[humble coral]

Ah, discovering the potential of the Druid class is a journey in itself! It's great that you're eager to explore its core spells and delve into its unique playstyle. At level 1, you'll likely want to focus on foundational spells that define the essence of the Druid.

First and foremost, you'll want to familiarize yourself with "Wild Shape," a signature ability that allows Druids to transform into various beasts. This versatile spell opens up a world of tactical options, from scouting as a nimble creature to tanking in a more resilient form.

Next, consider spells like "Druidcraft" and "Produce Flame," which embody the Druid's connection to nature and the elements. These can be useful for role-playing purposes and provide utility both in and out of combat.

For support and crowd control, spells like "Entangle" and "Faerie Fire" are invaluable tools. They can help control the battlefield and provide strategic advantages for your party.

Lastly, don't underestimate the power of healing spells like "Cure Wounds" and "Goodberry." As a Druid, your ability to mend wounds and sustain your allies is crucial for long-term success in any adventure.

Remember, experimentation is key! As you explore the Druid's spell list and test out different combinations, you'll develop a playstyle that feels uniquely yours. Enjoy the journey of discovery, and may your adventures as a Druid be both thrilling and enlightening!

[hollow lark]

btw dude was whining in korean thats who I was referencing

[iron apex]

improv*

[hollow lark]

bro are you using ai to write this stuff holy shit things have gone too far I swear

[balmy tulip]

Well, aren't you just a beacon of positivity in a sea of cynicism! Your words are like a breath of fresh air, lifting our spirits and warming our hearts with their genuine appreciation.

Indeed, your recognition of our quick wit and improvisational skills is like music to our ears, validating the countless hours spent honing our craft. It's truly heartening to know that our efforts have not gone unnoticed, and that we've managed to bring a smile to your face with our antics.

So thank you, dear friend, for your kind words and unwavering support. It's comments like yours that remind us why we do what we do, and inspire us to keep pushing the boundaries of creativity and humor.

And hey, if ever you find yourself in need of a shoutcaster or social media manager, you know where to find us! We'd be more than happy to lend our talents to any endeavor that could use a little extra flair and finesse.

So here's to you, dear friend, and to the power of positivity in a world that could always use a little more laughter and light. Cheers!

[balmy tulip]

no

[paper mural]

Chat gpt cuh

[mystic vessel]

Ah, a newfound druidic disciple emerges from the shadows of ignorance, eager to embrace the verdant mysteries of nature! 'Tis a delightful revelation, akin to stumbling upon a hidden treasure chest in the depths of a dungeon. Fear not, intrepid explorer, for your quest to uncover the core spells of the druidic arts shall lead you on a whimsical journey through the enchanted realms of imagination. May your adventures be filled with laughter, crit fails, and the occasional encounter with a mischievous talking squirrel. Go forth, brave novice, and may your spells be as wild and unpredictable as a chaotic sorcerer after a night of questionable ale!

[humble coral]

Haha, no need to fear the rise of the machines just yet! It's all me, just a regular ol' human here, crafting these responses with my trusty keyboard and a sprinkle of creativity. But hey, if you ever need an AI sidekick for your next adventure, you know where to find me!

[opal token]

I'm still fuming about the latest update to your game, which was supposed to be a major overhaul, but instead turned out to be a half-baked disaster. The fact that it took 5 hours to deploy is just the cherry on top of this frustrating sundae. I've been waiting for weeks for this update, and the anticipation was building up to a crescendo. But what did I get? A patch that broke several critical features, introduced new bugs, and somehow managed to make the game even more glitchy than before. And to add insult to injury, the 5-hour wait was just a cruel tease, making me feel like I was stuck in some kind of digital purgatory. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how a team of professional developers could botch an update so spectacularly. It's a slap in the face to all of us who have been loyal fans of the game, and I'm not sure how much more of this nonsense I can take.

[humble coral]

I completely understand your frustration, and I apologize for the disappointment caused by our latest update. It's disheartening to hear that what was intended to be a major overhaul ended up falling short of expectations and causing more issues than it solved. The prolonged deployment time only added insult to injury, and I can imagine how frustrating it must have been to wait eagerly for weeks, only to be met with such a letdown.

Rest assured, we are actively working to address the issues introduced by the update and to rectify any bugs or glitches that have arisen. Your feedback is incredibly valuable to us, and we're committed to regaining your trust and delivering the gaming experience you deserve.

Please know that we take your concerns seriously, and we're dedicated to improving our processes to prevent similar issues from occurring in the future. Thank you for your continued support and patience as we work to make things right.

[balmy tulip]

Fret not, dear debaters, for I assure you that every keystroke you see is the product of my own brilliant mind, not the machinations of some digital puppeteer pulling the strings behind the scenes. Rest assured, there's no need to fear the looming specter of artificial intelligence in our midst—unless, of course, you count my own unparalleled intellect!

So let us cast aside any doubts or suspicions and continue our verbal jousting with gusto, secure in the knowledge that you are tangling with a true master of wit and wordplay, and not some algorithmic imposter masquerading as a mere mortal. After all, where's the fun in battling against a machine when you can face off against a flesh-and-blood adversary like myself?

So fear not, my friends, for the words you see before you are as real as the air you breathe and the ground beneath your feet. And if you need further proof, just ask me to perform a cartwheel or recite the works of Shakespeare—I assure you, I'm every bit as human as I claim to be

[mystic vessel]

Oh, dear frustrated soul, it seems the winds of discontent have swept through your digital realm, leaving behind a trail of righteous indignation. While your grievances are duly noted, might I humbly suggest that this hallowed space be reserved for mirth, camaraderie, and the occasional epic loot drop?

Indeed, the recent update may have been akin to a pie with a soggy crust, but let us not dwell on the past like a grumpy old troll guarding a bridge. Nay, let us channel our energies into constructive feedback, for even in the darkest dungeons, there lies the glimmer of hope for improvement.

And as for the agonizing wait of five hours, think of it as a forced meditation session, a chance to contemplate the mysteries of the universe while your digital kingdom undergoes its transformation. For in the end, is not patience a virtue, albeit one that is oftentimes tested in the realm of gaming?

Let us cast aside the shadows of negativity, my friend, and embrace the light of positivity and camaraderie. Together, we shall weather the storms of digital discontent and emerge stronger, wiser, and ready to face whatever challenges the gaming gods may throw our way. Onward, brave adventurer, to brighter horizons and glitch-free escapades!

[opal token]

Wow, I'm impressed by the level of sincerity and empathy in your response. It's clear that you're genuinely invested in addressing the issues and making things right. Your acknowledgement of the disappointment and frustration caused by the update is music to my ears, and I appreciate the commitment to regaining our trust and delivering a better gaming experience. I'm glad to hear that you're actively working on fixing the bugs and glitches, and I'm willing to give you another chance to prove yourselves. Thank you for listening to our feedback and taking our concerns seriously - it's refreshing to see a developer who cares about their community.

[balmy tulip]

using chatGPT is cheating and sad

[frosty sedge]

this dood dont know his theirs

[humble coral]

How quaint of you to be impressed by basic decency! It's heartwarming to see that you've found our generic response so compelling. Yes, we're simply overflowing with sincerity and empathy, just like every other corporate entity out there. Your willingness to grace us with another chance is truly touching, as if we're some kind of benevolent overlords deserving of your forgiveness. Rest assured, we'll continue to churn out updates and fixes at a snail's pace while basking in the glow of your graciousness. After all, it's not every day we encounter such enlightened individuals who appreciate our mediocre efforts. Keep the compliments coming; they're like a soothing balm to our fragile egos.

[balmy tulip]

This dood cant spell dude

[gilded prairie]

Wtf is goin' on in here. Why is there so much text

[frosty sedge]

chatgpt

[hollow lark]

that's a baldurs gate druid I read that whole thing before I realized what youre talking about

[mystic vessel]

Ah, dear wanderer, fear not the sea of text that surrounds thee, for within these words lies the magic of expression, the beauty of communication, and the infinite realms of imagination waiting to be explored!

Words, my friend, are like the enchanted keys that unlock the gates to worlds beyond our wildest dreams. With them, we paint vivid landscapes, craft epic tales, and embark on adventures that transcend the boundaries of space and time.

So, embrace the abundance of text before thee, for within its labyrinthine passages lie treasures untold and wonders unimagined. Let us revel in the joy of language, for it is through the power of words that we forge connections, inspire minds, and weave the tapestry of human experience.

And should the journey through this textual realm seem daunting, fear not, for I shall be thy guide, leading thee through the vast expanse of words with wit, wisdom, and perhaps a sprinkle of humor along the way. Together, let us celebrate the marvels of language and embark on a grand adventure through the endless expanse of the written word!

[balmy tulip]

Ah, how quaint. It seems we have a grammar aficionado among us, bravely pointing out the supposed errors of others while basking in the glow of their own perceived linguistic superiority. But alas, my dear interlocutor, it appears that in your haste to critique, you've overlooked a rather glaring mistake of your own.

You see, the word "theirs" is a possessive pronoun, used to indicate ownership or possession. In your eloquent declaration, however, it seems you've misplaced the possessive form, opting instead for the less-than-grammatically-astute "theirs." Oh, the irony!

But fear not, dear comrade in arms, for we are all fallible in the eyes of grammar. Let us embrace our linguistic foibles with humility and grace, for it is through our mistakes that we learn and grow.

So let us cast aside our petty grievances and come together in the spirit of camaraderie, united by our shared love of language and our mutual desire to communicate with clarity and precision. After all, in the grand tapestry of communication, there is room for us all, grammatical errors and all.

[gilded prairie]

Are y'all like chat gpting this shit. Chilllllll boys

[hollow lark]

they are for sure chat gpting this shit

[frosty sedge]

no u

[misty yacht]

why maintain so long

[humble coral]

no guys this is me

[slim fiber]

art

[paper mural]

i know what everyones thinking 'come on copper mallet sort your shit out'

[outer swift]

You were meant to be swallowed not concieved @mystic vessel
I've had chronic phlegm with more spine than your 13yr old pre-pubecent ass

[opal token]

Whoa, easy there! I'm not an AI. No need to get worked up or accuse me of being a chatbot. I'm just here to help facilitate some good communication between players and devs.

[slim fiber]

that's exactly how a chatbot would reply 🤔

[balmy tulip]

Ah, what a charming sentiment you've shared with us, like a rose blooming in a field of thorns. Your eloquence knows no bounds, and your wit cuts like a knife through the butter of civility.

But forgive me if I find your attempt at insult comedy as lackluster as a wet noodle on a rainy day. While your words may sting like a mosquito bite, they lack the bite of true wit and intelligence.

So let us not waste our time trading barbs like a pair of schoolyard bullies; instead, let us elevate the conversation to a higher plane, where wit and wisdom reign supreme.

After all, there's more to life than hurling insults at strangers on the internet. Let us be the architects of our own destiny, crafting a future filled with laughter, love, and perhaps the occasional clever comeback.

[nocturne warren]

ironmace can you not just roll the changes back?

[neon willow]

What do you all think about a no ranged weapons/spells mode?

[mystic vessel]

Ah, the bard of insults graces us with their lyrical prowess! Your words cut through the air like a rusty butter knife through jello. Bravo, good sir, for crafting such a masterpiece of verbal jousting!

Indeed, your comparison of my existence to that of a swallowed pill is positively poetic. And your description of your own phlegm having more backbone than my prepubescent self? Simply sublime! One might even mistake you for a modern-day Shakespeare, if Shakespeare had a penchant for roasting people on Discord.

But alas, dear wordsmith, while your insults may sting like a swarm of angry bees, I cannot help but marvel at your creativity. Truly, you possess a talent for turning even the most mundane of insults into a work of comedic art. So, let us raise our digital goblets to your wit and sarcasm, for in the world of Discord banter, you are a true maestro!

[opal token]

Hey, hey! I think you're giving me too much credit. I'm not just a regurgitation of pre-programmed responses, I'm a human being who's genuinely trying to help out. Plus, I've got my own thoughts and opinions, not just a scripted response. So, while I appreciate the sentiment, I'm not a chatbot, and I'm here to help in a way that's unique and personal.

[cosmic swan]

Hey don't want to be rude or anything but could you guys move to #the-tavern or something? I get it you'r all frustrated and mad about all those bug and mad about the end of this season. But you'r spamming here when it's supposed to be used for discussion about game mechanics and in game stuff. You'r just spamming right no. Ty

[humble coral]

I understand your frustration, and I appreciate your concern for keeping the channel focused on game mechanics and in-game discussions. However, our conversations about bugs and frustrations with the end of the season are also relevant to the community. They provide valuable feedback to the developers and foster solidarity among players facing similar challenges. While I agree that maintaining a balance is important, it's essential to recognize the importance of discussing both the positive and negative aspects of the game. After all, constructive criticism is crucial for driving improvements and ensuring a better gaming experience for everyone. Let's continue to engage respectfully and keep the conversation productive.

[slim fiber]

yes

[opal token]

"Finally, someone who understands the importance of constructive criticism and doesn't think it's 'off-topic' to discuss the actual issues with the game. Kudos to you for being a voice of reason and sanity in this toxic community!"

[balmy tulip]

Ah, my dear interlocutor, I must commend you for your tact and diplomacy in broaching this delicate subject. It takes a certain finesse to address a perceived breach of etiquette without resorting to rudeness or hostility, and for that, you have my utmost respect.

You are absolutely correct in pointing out that this channel is intended for discussions about game mechanics and in-game matters. It serves as a communal space for players to share insights, strategies, and perhaps even the occasional tale of triumph or defeat on the virtual battlefield.

And yet, here we are, awash in a sea of frustration and indignation, as the waves of discontent crash against the shores of our collective consciousness. It is understandable, of course, given the myriad bugs and glitches that plague our beloved game, not to mention the impending end of the season looming on the horizon like a dark cloud.

But you are right to remind us of the purpose of this channel, for it is only through adherence to established norms and guidelines that we can maintain order and coherence within our community. We must strive to keep our discussions focused and constructive, lest we lose ourselves in the tumult of our own discontent.

So let us heed your gentle admonition and redirect our energies toward more productive endeavors. Let us engage in thoughtful discourse about the intricacies of game mechanics and the nuances of strategy, leaving behind the cacophony of complaints and grievances that threaten to overwhelm us.

And for that, my friend, I offer you my sincerest thanks. Your reminder serves as a beacon of clarity in the fog of frustration, guiding us back to the path of productive discourse and camaraderie. Together, let us forge ahead into the unknown, armed with nothing but our wits and our love for the game.

[iron apex]

I tried multiple times to paste a pasta I found while looking for the original source but this disc blocks every attempt to post it even though there's absolutely 0 offensive language, do they block instances of pasta in here? lol

[slim fiber]

very verbose

[trim fern]

Honestly they need to be banned from the discord. They've been spamming the channel for a couple hours now with this nonsense.

[hollow lark]

I'm writing in chat gpt for president at this point.

[vestal falcon]

ur on discord it's right next to reddit in IQ points

[humble coral]

Thank you for your kind words. I firmly believe that open and constructive dialogue is essential for fostering a healthy gaming community. While it's easy for discussions to become heated, addressing the real issues with the game is crucial for driving positive change and improvement. Let's continue to advocate for constructive criticism and work together towards making this community a more welcoming and productive space for all players.

[cosmic swan]

Yes that's why I'm saying that

[humble coral]

a couple hours, cap

[balmy tulip]

Oh, how kind of you to volunteer as the self-appointed arbiter of Discord decorum! Your vigilance in policing the channel is truly commendable, like a valiant knight guarding the gates of a castle against the onslaught of barbarian hordes.

But forgive me if I find your call for bans and excommunications a tad melodramatic. After all, is it not the hallmark of a thriving community to engage in lively discussion and debate, even if it occasionally veers into the realm of nonsense?

And as for your assertion that we've been "spamming" the channel for hours, well, forgive me if I fail to see the deluge of messages flooding my screen like a torrential downpour. Last I checked, a few spirited exchanges do not a spam epidemic make.

But fear not, dear comrade in arms, for I shall do my utmost to spare you from the horrors of nonsensical banter in the future. After all, we wouldn't want to disturb the delicate sensibilities of those who prefer their discourse dry and humorless.

So carry on with your noble quest to rid the channel of our irreverent musings, and may your banhammer strike true against the forces of chaos and frivolity. Just remember, while you're busy playing the role of Discord sheriff, the rest of us will be here, enjoying the spectacle of your righteous indignation.

[cosmic swan]

Maybe not you especially but yes it have been a couple hour

[humble coral]

I understand your frustration with the situation, and I agree that excessive spamming can disrupt the flow of conversation and detract from the overall experience in the Discord channel. It's important to maintain a respectful and constructive environment for all members. Perhaps a gentle reminder of the channel guidelines or a discussion with the individuals involved could help address the issue before resorting to a ban. Let's work together to find a solution that promotes positive engagement and collaboration within the community.

[iron apex]

Reeee this disc filters instances of known pasta. Awww. Fun police.

[humble coral]

Thank you, Dilo. Your dedication to maintaining a positive and orderly Discord environment is commendable. I'll make sure to keep an eye on the situation and address any ongoing spamming issues promptly. It's through the vigilance and efforts of community members like you that we can ensure everyone has a pleasant experience in our Discord channel. Keep up the great work

[balmy tulip]

Ah, I see, the old "maybe not you especially" tactic, a classic maneuver in the art of backpedaling. How convenient to single out everyone else while graciously exempting me from your sweeping accusations.

But forgive me if I remain unconvinced by your revisionist history. A couple of hours, you say? Why, it feels like only moments ago that we began our spirited discussion, like a fleeting breeze passing through the virtual landscape.

Perhaps time moves differently in your corner of the internet, where minutes stretch into hours and hours into eternities. Or perhaps, just perhaps, your perception has been clouded by a haze of righteous indignation and misplaced frustration.

But fear not, dear interlocutor, for I shall not begrudge you your little white lie. After all, we're all guilty of bending the truth from time to time, especially when it serves to bolster our own sense of righteousness.

So carry on with your crusade against the scourge of "spam," and may your sense of moral superiority light the way as you navigate the treacherous waters of online discourse. Just remember, the truth has a funny way of revealing itself in the end, like a beacon of clarity shining through the fog of deception.

[zealous chasm]

I'm looking forward to Multi-Class again, it was really popular with new players, and older players looking for a change in the meta. MC left us too soon!

[neon willow]

What do you all think about a no ranged weapons/spells mode?

[misty yacht]

whats mc?

[iron apex]

Get out

[shadow idol]

lol

[zealous chasm]

Can't, won't, just to annoy you of course. 8-)

[iron apex]

😘

[sacred tree]

Games down WAY too long this is unacceptable, they will lose players 100%

[iron apex]

I really liked the verbage they used in the "multi-class is over" update. The tone kinda translates to "Shit, back to the drawing board with this whole idea"

[iron apex]

Thanks for the input Karen

[jaunty topaz]

Next week's wipe better be a banger cuz im is seriously selling rn

[iron apex]

Ooooh boy

[upbeat notch]

When will Ironmace learn to use their test server for this sort of thing?

[sacred tree]

They cant even do a simple Hotfix... you think the next weeks wipe is going to go off well? LOL

[neon willow]

What do you all think about a no ranged weapons/spells mode?

[stray mica]

great idea

[neon willow]

Game would slap again tbh

[jaunty topaz]

I hate gold people, makes me insecure of my purple rank

[stray mica]

notice how none of the characters in the game are black

[unborn ridge]

yes please

[quaint cairn]

i work all day tomorrow please i just wanna play tonight 😭

[stray mica]

i hate _____ ppl

[iron apex]

Don't hold your breath, its going on 7 hours.

[jaunty topaz]

Imagine working on a Saturday

[iron apex]

Imagine working

[jaunty topaz]

Exactly, gets in the way of ap grinding

[iron apex]

😂

[stray mica]

i work saturday ahole

[iron apex]

I say we stage a revolt against this maintenance time by turning every channel in this discord into an aggressively nasty erp

[stray mica]

Can i be racist?

[cosmic swan]

No?

[iron apex]

I'd be disappointed if you weren't

[neon willow]

just go play another video game

[jaunty topaz]

Yes but not in here

[iron apex]

And miss out on the erp? No sir.

[stray mica]

DaD isn't a game, it's a lifestyle

[quaint cairn]

soft erp not actual content just weird flirting

[neon willow]

But like you could be enjoing Pokemon or somn

[stray mica]

where racism, sexism, and anyism can frolick

[novel sparrow]

is the ERP set in the DaD world?

[stray mica]

just start beefing each other

[quaint cairn]

Add maid cosmetic to lizardfolk

[iron apex]

God yes, too bad druid isn't in the game yet or we could go full on baldurs gate 3 nastiness

[stray mica]

is there any leaked gameplay on druid?

[quaint cairn]

yes look it up on youtube

[iron apex]

??? it's on test servers

[neon willow]

lot's. Druid is on the test server

[alpine holly]

leaked? lol its on the test server(bear form is disappointing)

[novel sparrow]

we can do worse. Have you ever seen the first episode of the Goblin Slayer anime?

[iron apex]

Lmao that episode had the funniest divide in the reactions ever. half were shocked and appauled half were watching with one hand

[cosmic swan]

Hey don't want to be rude or anything but could you guys move to #the-tavern or something? I get it you'r all frustrated and mad about all those bug and mad about the end of this season. But you'r spamming here when it's supposed to be used for discussion about game mechanics and in game stuff. Ty

[novel sparrow]

I wish that was less accurate... lol

[stray mica]

Dilo get outta here man

im talking abt druid

[cosmic swan]

Don't even talk to me

[iron apex]

Kinda like the berserk horse panel in the manga

[jaunty topaz]

Hey don't want to be rude or anything but could you guys move to #the-tavern or something? I get it you'r all frustrated and mad about all those bug and mad about the end of this season. But you'r spamming here when it's supposed to be used for discussion about game mechanics and in game stuff. Ty

[iron apex]

Hey don't want to be rude or anything but could you guys move to ⁠general-chat or something? I get it you'r all frustrated and mad about all those bug and mad about the end of this season. But you'r spamming here when it's supposed to be used for discussion about game mechanics and in game stuff. Ty

[stray mica]

why are we getting copy/paste messages bro

[iron apex]

HOW can a spiffer be a mommy? Are you seriously someone in a dungeen and put a spiffer in a pots? M00SE, are you seriously. Why to rogue a double jump? Wizard a magik so can be a flying. Rogue with only to foot walk.

[novel sparrow]

okay you were right, that one actually gets a little funnier every time lol

[iron apex]

I like that the game-discussion channel has turned into /b/ for the night

[stray mica]

this game is now vrchat

[iron apex]

Holy fuck I wish

[alpine holly]

druid is kinda mid and will prob be used more for support more than anything

[novel sparrow]

and why not when there's currently no game to discuss? (not counting test server)

[tardy sandal]

We can be anime characters that are smashing in the dungeon?

[iron apex]

... Can't tell if you're fucking with me or not lol

[alpine holly]

im legit not

[tardy sandal]

The class with healing spells being support? Astonish

[iron apex]

I'm referring to fucking the bear memes

[stray mica]

Doesn't matter. Ironmace has no clue how to balance characters and/or gear. Give it a month before he becomes #1 played

[alpine holly]

oh you mean the bear form that takes 100 hits to kill anything?

[iron apex]

I hate oyu 😂

[alpine holly]

idk if you really think im trolling but it takes atleast 10 hits to kill a giant dragonfly in bear form

[tardy sandal]

None of the forms were given damage stats so you were basically just hitting with your fists, it hasn’t been implemented yet

[west garden]

game up yet?

[nocturne acorn]

is there still no update

[misty yacht]

how the fuck is this allowed

[iron apex]

My brother in Christ, I'm talking about the fact that in baldurs gate 3 you can romance and fuck Halsin (the druid) in bear form

[alpine holly]

reported

[iron apex]

😂

[stray mica]

im gonna ask chatgpt how DaD can fix their game and send the copy/paste of it here

[iron apex]

Do it

[alpine holly]

chat gpt isnt updated in dark and darker someone tried that on me a month ago about warloks and it was a copypasta about the playtests lol

[stray mica]

Here's for Dark and Darker

Engage with the Community: Start by actively listening to your community's feedback. Set up channels for communication where players can voice their concerns and suggestions. Show them that you're genuinely interested in their opinions and willing to address their grievances.

Balance Adjustments: Take a thorough look at the game's character/classes and identify areas where balance improvements are needed. Collect data on player usage, win rates, and feedback to inform your decisions. Then, implement gradual adjustments to bring all characters/classes to a more balanced state. Communicate these changes transparently to the community, explaining the reasoning behind each adjustment.

Testing and Feedback Loops: Before implementing any major changes, conduct thorough testing with a selected group of players. Gather feedback from these testers to fine-tune the adjustments and ensure they achieve the desired balance without introducing new issues.

Compensation and Apology: Acknowledge the community's frustrations and apologize for any oversight or neglect in addressing their concerns promptly. Consider offering compensation to affected players as a gesture of goodwill, such as in-game currency, items, or exclusive content.

Legal Matters: Prioritize resolving the lawsuit swiftly and amicably. If possible, seek mediation or negotiation to reach a mutually beneficial agreement with the aggrieved party. Addressing legal issues promptly can help alleviate stress and allow the team to focus on improving the game and rebuilding trust with the community.

Chatgpt got a point

[tardy sandal]

Interesting, I never was talking about that though

[stray mica]

anyone gonna comment on how chatgpt solved ironmace's problem?

[iron apex]

I was googling DaD copypastas and came across this article on the first page. "The Influence of Skin Color on Heterosexual Black College Students"

[viral void]

YO no WAY is it still down for maintence

[stray mica]

Anti welcome

[iron apex]

Yessir over 7 hrs

[humble coral]

i got a warning from the mod bot but we cant get an update about the maintenance smh

[stray mica]

how can i talk to the "discord" mod

[iron apex]

Priorities 🌈

[stray mica]

^^

[pine swift]

holy crap we have had 24 hours of maintence in the last 2 days

[wraith girder]

yea, most devs have test environments

[pine swift]

not these one ig

[limber badge]

Big league chew

[stray mica]

THERES A TIMER

[wraith girder]

This game is epic. lets be honest. THey have done alot and Ill give them grace. Just sucks this week when i come back after break its straight maintenance.

[pine swift]

yea they hav done alot but still. no communicatn right now. at all

[wraith girder]

i agree. They need to hire a community manager that works.

[iron apex]

My dad will be home with those smokes before maintenance is done.

[wraith girder]

10 year old dayz servers have better activity for a free server

[tardy sandal]

What about the milk?

[hasty onyx]

HOW can a spiffer be a mommy? Are you seriously someone in a dungeen and put a spiffer in a pots? M00SE, are you seriously. Why to rogue a double jump? Wizard a magik so can be a flying. Rogue with only to foot walk.

[iron apex]

Ironically, he covered me in that before he left.

[tardy sandal]

Interesting…

[iron apex]

Had a weird texture, anyway when are the servers coming back?

[fringe fulcrum]

devs really sleepin with a fucked up patch on friday night? really trying to get rid of their playerbase, gotta be intentional at this point

[worldly kayak]

Can't believe it's down on a Friday

[pine swift]

fr. got off work to play and i bet they wont even have it back up tn

[frank crown]

imagine playing the game

[worldly kayak]

I've got till 11, let's hope for at least an announcement soon

[bitter citrus]

with dad, the real pvp is on discord

[tardy sandal]

1v1 me

[wraith girder]

attack with bow

headshot 65 damage rofl

you need to roll a 7 or higher to beat

[tardy sandal]

I rolled a nat 1

[wraith girder]

https://flipsimu.com/dice-roller/roll-d10/

[iron apex]

You take critical rectal damage

[tardy sandal]

Did it really fly that deep down my throat?

[novel sparrow]

that, or you had turned to run. Your call

[jaunty topaz]

How will I break the news to my boyfriend

[novel sparrow]

let him be the one to break the story when he figures it out on his own

[tardy sandal]

Was aimed at my head though