game-discussion

[pearl onyx]

the wording on the next full wipe makes it sound like not just character levels will be deleted, but the characters themselves will be deleted

[devout yacht]

Exactly, there's more build variation now

[fleet dune]

it would jsut be you honestly, im getting fucked by goblins and naked clerics, shits insane

[tardy sandal]

The speed rangers shoot with survival is nuts

[pulsar pebble]

build variety is nice, but it looked hella broken and unbalanced lol. I bet it doesnt get nerfed for a while though because its not common enough to get noticed by the masses and probably even IM themselves lol

[visual dragon]

Well, everyone starts somewhere. You just need a helping hand getting start yk? What class are you playing

[late yacht]

I am so you're still wrong. Learn to not be so abrasive towards strangers you fucking orphan.

You can also just stop typing because I don't give a fuck kid

[pearl onyx]

sounds like a buttsmithy comic

[fleet dune]

Im playing fighter

[pulsar pebble]

Imagine being so slow in the brain that when someone asks about when the DD wipe is, you comment on when the tarkov wipe is. Bro is so jetlagged in life he doesn't even know what discord hes in. Probably wearing a Adidas tracksuit IRL. Probably dies to kedr Killa too. lol

[visual dragon]

Ill send you some videos in a sec

[glad horizon]

Has anyone experienced an issue where Dark and Darker crashes but you can hear sound/game still going on its like my display is just turned off? It's happened at least 5-10 times, I'm trying to fix

[formal moon]

I'll concede things have been added. But if you don't interact with it. Does it add anything to the game? It's essentially the same problem with juicers stomping normals and hr filled with rat rogues. The content isn't really incentivized so the game is fundamentally unchanged

[pulsar pebble]

Quick Killa, someone was asking advice on how to play a Fighter, link that Tarkov ammo chart so they know what to put in their mags.

[severe elbow]

You can literally kill bosses in base kits and it’s not hard if you don’t interact with them every now and then you’re foolish

[late yacht]

https://escapefromtarkov.fandom.com/wiki/Ballistics

[pulsar pebble]

I dunno if you could do warlord in greys, maybe with the right comp but its a tough fight. lol. the lich is pretty doable though, probably need a cleric for it though @late yacht 🙂

[remote yarrow]

Seems Like you were right. He is so slow he responds to a message before the actual message

[rapid vapor]

I'm very late to the conversation, but fighter is good to learn on, but difficult to do well as.

[late yacht]

It's ok guys I'll get the 9mm and go into the woods. No one will find me.

But knowing me I'd likely survive shooting myself in the head

[tardy sandal]

Lich solo without some sort of range attack is impossible

[pulsar pebble]

Eh, at least he seems like he has a sense of humor, and thats enough for me. Cant take yourself too seriously, especially online lol. I appreciate that he embraced the joke

[true ore]

Skill issue

[remote yarrow]

No one will bother to even search for you

[late yacht]

That's literally the truth. I do have an HK VP9L. So I keep it around for if that day ever comes.

[pulsar pebble]

Pretty sick tournament idea. Found in raid only. Zero to hero, with a bonus for nightmare boss kills. Sounds like more fun then the current game mode tbh

[frigid hamlet]

and the scoring is based on how many timmy's you kill rather than other skilled players! (bring back blue and below lobbies)

[remote yarrow]

Is it actually a closed Tournament or is it in the regular Servers. Then they can Just kill people that brought in gear from trade

[rapid vapor]

Lich solo in general is a little iffy unless you're warlock

[late yacht]

I have a real question. Why the fuck can't we rotate items?

[pulsar pebble]

yea but they start as timmys themselves lol. and yea i prefered the gear capped system too, lol . There would be pros and cons of it being closed versus open servers. closed is probably more fair, but open could be chaotic and fun. And then we cna finally see people kill purple players in greys and see if its actual realistic or not. once and for all

[tardy sandal]

I mean I could kill the lich solo, I would just need my holy purifcation to hit hard enough to one shot the 200 hp skeletons he has , his homing orb combined with skeleton archers is way to oppressive, rangers do have a shot at soloing lich though

[devout yacht]

Yes, i just gave an example. It makes the game feel bigger when there's a looming goal that you haven't accomplished. An mmo is the same way, you train your character and your skill to achieve the little victories with the dream of one day being the one to take down that boss.

My friend and I have gotten consistent wins on Ruins. Then we can do the same on Crypts. Now we can consistently get to hell and escape. We're watching videos on the bosses and will soon start putting in the effort to learn to kill them.

[pulsar pebble]

they said in one of the interviews it was intentional. dont remember the reason they gave, was the december interview last year, with onepeg i think?

[glad horizon]

My game has crashed 10+ times today, I have verifyed/repaired, changed my resolution/video settings, updated video drives. Was running fine all playtests, but today the game has some how just changed?? I can't play without it crashing and my computer cycle

[glacial brook]

Wont that get rid of geared people? Everybody on level playing field?

[wraith mason]

A tournament should never come before the game is even balanced. The community is so unhappy right now.. a tourny?? bro what is going on lmao

[proud mountain]

Yo gamers... how much does a bis demons glee sell for

[shadow raft]

eh, it will for about an hour. After that itll be right back to the exact same issues cause the core problems have yet to be solved. Nothing to do when youre geared besides stomp in normals

[unborn radish]

Class suggestions for a noob?

[sleek mist]

Ranger.

[sullen nest]

does wizard light orb not un invis a wizard invis spell cause i shot 2 orbs at a door and still had a buff ball barb apear in my face

[tepid hazel]

do you think the issue with the game isnt the patches and balance, but hte fact that there just isnt that much content? We've all been doing the same content now forever, even before the paid release.

[distant pivot]

Here's an idea, allow report button for people who are using racial slurrs in game as well as in trade guild. offer different report offences like OSRS does. It's starting to be a breeding ground for incels who are using racial slurrs every lobby and cursing you in trade guild if you don't trade for what they want. I've several screenshots of these players but no means of reporting them.

[rapid vapor]

What kind of new content would you want?

[formal moon]

talents, more classes, and a three layred map

[tepid hazel]

maybe more levels, more classes, talents, diff items, fix some pve interactions (like you can stand on a barrel or health shrine and fight anything etc)i get its alpha and were all testing stuff, im not like expecting much. I play other games, but I do feel at this point lots of the game is boring right? The only fun i have now is fighting to the death in the middle of ruins for gold ore.

[dark sluice]

when was the last wipe of all gear?

[shadow raft]

Buffs to highroller, make it much more valuable to run, add higher gamemodes with even a little arena pvp gamemode for fun wouldnt hurt.

[chrome basalt]

Them uncapping the gear & starting a kill race in regular lobbies killed my want to play this game been playing since playtest 1 & this is just the worst the game has ever felt. on a side note idk why they didn't perhaps make this tournament only take place in high roller would've made far more sense but ig lets murder those timmys 🗡

[formal moon]

I want the first floor to be big and house 30 odd players. Obv they gotta fix the servers before that can happen

[weary sable]

can we spawn portals in the right spots? i swear gob caves spawns portals outside of the circle in impossible to find spots, boring asf to play the whole raid and end it being the last one who cant find a portal running in the darkness for 3 seconds before dying to a bug

[tepid hazel]

i think being able to go right into high roller inferno would be a lot of fun too. Its a lot of fun with a group.

[unborn radish]

I was thinking of the range classes, maybe bc they’re geared but they keep one shotting or two shorting me with a spell or arrow lol or I’m just ass

[empty crest]

fighter has range if you take weaponsmith use crossbows or bows

[chrome basalt]

fighter & ranger are definitely both the easiest playstyles

[rapid vapor]

Fighter is very good for learning most mechanics, but it's hard to do well with them.

[shadow raft]

Also really want a naked only lobby option, itd be great to help teach players the game, on that note, another gathering hall for mentor system would be really beneficial

[dark sluice]

when was the last wipe of all gear?

[unborn radish]

Oh okay, thanks guys. Didn’t know that perk existed and got tired of wearing grey geared and suddenly dying within a shot or two to a player

[tepid hazel]

ranger also has rations, makes it easier to heal

[empty crest]

fuck the high roller map they added to normal crypts is such ass

[tardy sandal]

colosseum?

[rapid vapor]

I'd really like a campaign mode where you start in grey ruins go to crypts, HR crypts or a new map, then HR inferno

[minor linden]

Does the falchion of honor get the perks written in market or are they random?

[tepid hazel]

HR inferno is a lot of fun, the black mobs are nuts

[minor linden]

Does the falchion of honor get the perks written in market or are they random?

[weak umbra]

Does the falchion of honor get the perks written in market or are they random?

[visual dragon]

Does the falchion of honor get the perks written in market or are they random?

[empty crest]

they are what it shows in the shop, if anyone gets one that isnt garbage rolls @ me and I'll buy it from you for the supplies + money

every other craftable item in the store has god rolls and the falchion of honor just rolls trash, looked at like 100 of them and every roll is garbagio idk wtf is up with that but its almost as if the devs just cater the rolls to warlocks

[inner sundial]

I'd like to see a death damage recount

[sand bridge]

bard songs not affecting other players for anyone else?

[golden pasture]

Barbarian is bugged or I’m tripping? My friend runs 347 move speed on gc without any move speed gear and he has a chest piece too

[split violet]

what is volcanic ash for

[visual dragon]

Moisturizer for the bis train in crypts

[sand bridge]

only rousing rythmys works

[empty crest]

probably going to be a crafting item eventually

as of now, it sells for 50 to the collector

[scenic pollen]

Side note game dropped from 20k, to 10k in the dungeon to and now 7k.

I wonder how many will come back on wipe or if this is the new normal.

[vernal ruin]

why is it still a bug that if the game puts you into trio lobbys without the team you party'd with

[vagrant furnace]

Hey guys, does anyone give two shits about this tournament event? Asking for a friend

[vernal ruin]

how we even do a tourny when the matchmaking doesnt even put you in with your team.. then if you leave in the pre lobby to re Q you lose all your gear..

[silk gust]

I give negative shits, I'm less likely to play with the event happening that normally

[warm pivot]

how do we feel about reducing wep dmg bonuses on ranged weapons to a modifier of like 50%

[cyan basalt]

how to split items ?

[spare elbow]

That actually doesnt sound terrible. Any weapon damage add only scale 50% on range weapons?

[warm pivot]

yeah pretty much

[weak umbra]

nobody

[silk moat]

anyone else trying to figure out how skilltrees wont ultimately boil down to a dps increase across the board making two tapping even more prevalent

[deft sonnet]

Iduknow, i dont really know the direction skill trees are taking

[wraith folio]

YET WHEN centre of mass ARMOUR wearing ppl still get super buffs and turn an arrow hitting them in mid to a nerf arrow its a bit SH1Te i disagree

[shadow raft]

Sounds like buffs are overtuned too

[twilit sail]

Skill tree is just gonna be perks and skills are not available except through the skill tree, so extra grinding to get what we already have.

[silk moat]

huh what

[deft sonnet]

Honestly im fine without skill trees, the basic perks and abilities you get are fine, the importance should be gear and a less wildly different tiered progression. Aka great armor still makes you a juggernaught, but its possible for an OK geared enemy to actuslly kill you, cause right now its just not the case, the lobster runs are real.

[shadow raft]

Yeah, horrible idea honestly, just gonna create an even larger gap in playerbase thats gonna be a pain to balance around. Should make skill trees something else entirely.

[twilit sail]

Yep. You will have to unlock them manual one at a time.

[deft sonnet]

Honestly, passive buffs like +15 armor or +15 magic resist, increased speed at low health, regenerate up to 25% max health without sitting or getting hit, might be good skill trees.

Im fine with passives like that, that or dying resets the skill tree and every escape gives you one perk.

Passive buffs in general like extra luck at the very end of the tree

[scenic pollen]

Side note I still belive IM is horrible at the concept of wipes and gathering data

[wraith folio]

Ok i have a real issue with warlock phaze ....its far too long

[scenic pollen]

Why not wipe levels, that's 2 wipes in a row with no level reset

It's subjective but I hate that choice

[rapid vapor]

It doesn't bother me a ton. They can't interact with anything and they still take area damage and they take 50% more magic damage

[silk moat]

sigh

[rapid vapor]

As I understand it the perks and skills we have now are the max versions of what you unlock via the trees. They may change that before it actually comes out though

[feral plinth]

yo why does goblin archers arrows legit curve towards me

[misty blade]

Imagine focusing on game balance, only making new content for the paid store, only to FINALLY release Druid and have to balance everything all over again.

[silk moat]

thats dumb

[twin bramble]

There will be a full wipe, including levels, with the big mid-Nov Patch. Though, personally, I would prefer just the one full wipe next month.

[misty blade]

I'm guessing Druid isn't coming with this big patch? They still want to focus on balancing an unfinished game pointlessly?

[dense bloom]

Juste exited out of a blue portal and everything I looted was gone, I was back to before I went in but the guys I went in with are unaffected what happened

[marsh mulch]

BRING BACK THE JUICED VENDORS I HATE TRADING

[rapid vapor]

I stealth up to a fighter and he immediately pulls out his spear, runs up and stabs me. Dude has his ESP on so much he forgot people can be invisible

[misty blade]

"Guyz we promise Druid is coming. He's not on the character select just to tease please buy more store emotes please, we promise he's on his way"

[terse stratus]

The trade mechanic is the worst element of the game by far, get rid of it for good

[glacial brook]

I enjoy trading as is

[rapid vapor]

They literally haven't even finished warlock yet.

[arctic cove]

Since pop died the game is full of bots and hackers

[misty blade]

"Guyz we can't fix the trading. It has to be complete fucking garbage because we need to balance our unfinished game. Just spam a sentence into a chat like it's 2004 again."

"Guyz we can't add more spells than Wizard had in the tests. We can't. Bard, Cleric, Fighter, and Berserker really need new stuff before the utility caster. But here's some more paid store content"

The whole notion that they're focusing on balance when characters aren't even finished is baffling. Do the devs know what happens when a new character is thrown into the mix??

They have to balance EVERYTHING with that new characters inclusion. They're wasting time on balance just to throw it all out when they finally give us something besides store content.

[terse stratus]

Then you’re a fool

[marble tangle]

I think the trade is garbage as it is. But calling someone a fool for enjoying something you don't enjoy, is just outright foolish, lol.

[glacial brook]

I can sell/buy stuff fast im not always looking for crazy gear and it gives me the chance to spot a good deal

[regal crypt]

For every mentally challenged player that in response to the complains to the gear cap removal answer with: SKILL ISSUE what do you think about a new player that lands in a match and get instant killed by full geared small pps guy. HOW do you learn how to play if u cant even fight once without being one shotted? Game was so much fun when there was gear cap

[vivid pendant]

*easier

[twilit sail]

Guys they're nothing wrong with trading. I love having to spam to the same sentence 50 times and sit in trade more than I'm playing the actual game for minutes on end. Of course I could just sell everything at a loss to trade instantly. The system is fine as it is.

[terse stratus]

Foolishly said

[cyan basalt]

Will increases power right?

[shy shadow]

how do maps work now?

[brazen tinsel]

selling everything in my inventory for 1k gold. its odds and ends, but worth more

[rain portal]

Who's idea was it to remove gear cap and what is their mailing address 😄

[wild scaffold]

Games great 4 classes can have crossbows and if you’re lucky you can dodge the ranger running double crossbow just get close to him bro don’t worry about the 3 traps he put down in the same spot, don’t worry bout the barb having 320 move speed busting down the door

[silk gust]

just remember its this way by design, and according to devs working as intended 🙂

[limber verge]

sounds like you dont like the game and you should probably just stop playing

[midnight mantle]

I mean I think they are working on an alternative solutions as per SDF's recent replies. Im just frustrated

[fading drum]

LOVE WHEN SERVERS GET DDOS love lagging dying to mobs

[wild jay]

What is rmb

[vernal ruin]

I just had a bug where I got the sow from getting hit and it never went away... first time for that but it was cancer.. caused me to die being always 30% slowed

[wild jay]

Try trading in a different server than the one you're in

[unborn ingot]

looking for a group to level. I am a casual and would love advice but please do not be a rude dude.

[barren ingot]

Anyone can just say “yea man i headshot him like 87 times and he hit me once and I died” elaborate on what actually happend in that scenario. What class was he and what class where you playing? What was the gear difference? Was he in BIS? What weapon were you using? What rarity was your armour/weapon? There’s 10000 different things that play factors in a fight

[wild jay]

I've stabbed a fighter 17 times and he killed me in two hits but I was rogue lol

[feral karma]

PDR vs rogue in a nutshell. 85% PDR is a meme

[vernal ruin]

naw gear never has anything to do with it. skill issue tbh. thats why they wont add self found mode. cuz gear dont matter

[pliant patio]

they broke this game purple geared people everywhere lol killing everyone and for the people saying play longer sorry i have an outside world

[cinder spire]

anyone point me to where I can report a player? ty

[fickle oak]

I feel your pain, sometimes the kits are just too far apart and you get stomped

[icy stratus]

#1056520745330675763

[barren ingot]

Unlucky ouss

[pliant patio]

unless you break rules and spend money buying gold lol to buy the best shit like asll these people do

[vernal ruin]

thats why they cling only trade so much, they bad and cant win without their credit cards.

[cinder spire]

@icy stratus it's not for cheating. racial slur name. still report there?

[barren ingot]

I think people forget it wipes in 4 days so Ofcourse everyone’s running purples and all their best gear before it gets deleted lol

[icy stratus]

Probably.. otherwise R ingame when spectating the person.

[pliant patio]

i wass fine running al greens and blues like the normal joe would but then a team kils whole lobby literally lol happened twice on ruins lol skill in this game is learning how to dodge and block and aim were all capable gamers we can do that when you hit an enemy 5 times and he hits you once lol like come on

[vernal ruin]

dont be a karen, you chose to learn how to read those words. you just as guilty.

[spice epoch]

There should be a whirlwind spell that reflects projectiles like arrows back. If it's too OP make it a little innaccurate so you can't counter snipe but it might help ranged weapons have some counter play. Also let Rogues use the Pavise.

[humble ivy]

no you have to get good bro, you need to grind up gear and then kill other geared people bro, you just werent skilled enough bro, cmon stop showering bro, cmon quit your job bro

[icy stratus]

What most of them do is rat for gold as naked, then buy a good set, then go farm timmys for gold for a backup set. Good set is the broken thing in this gaem, hopefully theyll fix this soon.

[tidal coral]

LF cleric have barb/wiz

[icy stratus]

A good set of equipment turns this game into zombie shooter just shoot the waves of onehit zombies walking around, both pve and pvp. Sadge but true, nerf gear already xD

[wild jay]

Rogues using pavise would actually make them useful lol

[cinder spire]

@vernal ruin rofl thats a really wild take on racism. and a really wrong take on it. check your racism my guy.

[weak umbra]

🤓

[green sandal]

Any good counters as a longsword fighter against a rapier rogue, who gets one hit in then runs backwards?

[bronze ember]

run away

[weak umbra]

just one tap him with crossbow

[icy stratus]

Jump forward toward him before you swing, its OP

[green sandal]

yeah was trrying, he was a quick bastard, ended up killing him by backing him into a black goblin mage he didn't see lmao. But I couldnt land a hit on him, he was good

[twilit dragon]

My inventory just reverted to prior game join on a successful exit.

[velvet finch]

Daily reminder to add Ironman / Self Found lobbies into the game.

[last iris]

Start the fight with an Xbow hit and don’t waste time trying to riposte

[novel nymph]

+1 absolutely fk the caped cun*s in every under 15 lobby because they removed gear restriction and fk all you absolute wet wipes like HUH U JOIN A HARDCORE GAME AND WANT AN EZ TIME LOL PATHETIC, you're all absolute nonces and prioritise min maxing for abit of fun rather than just enjoying the game

[inner sundial]

Says the 99pdr xbow fighter, using broken class doesn't mean you gud bro

[broken forum]

the sound in goblin caves is fucking awful

[novel nymph]

???? played fighter like twice and decided i didnt like the class you absolute wet wipe, trynna be out here and enjoy and cultivate a community for new players rather than UHUH U DIDNT REVIEW YOUR STATS IMMEDIATELY UPON PLAYING?! Pathetic mate

[wheat roost]

gotta love getting killed by fully gear group when im in greys 10/10

[inner sundial]

Stop lying man I saw you playing with Jake yesterday

[novel nymph]

fk off ya absolute kunai owning UwU my dad never loved me weirdo, no one cares about your weird trolling ya creep

[rich cosmos]

Rangers are so op to the point its not even fun to play

[inner sundial]

Secco is in a bad mood, I apologize for him, he must go to bed now

[remote flicker]

Why are you pressed?

@rich cosmos I have lots of fun on ranger, and playing against them. Learning is half the battle

[unborn ingot]

LF1M leveling wizard and Barb

[iron current]

Add bigger tatas for heal mommy cleric

[novel nymph]

because i am very passionate about this game and want the utmost for it to succeed, never have i seen such an unbelievably good concept carried through visually so well, but their abominable decisions regarding gameplay are decimating playability @remote flicker debate "Says the 99pdr xbow fighter, using broken class doesn't mean you gud bro"?

[last iris]

There’s no separate under 15 lobbies anymore I don’t think

[remote flicker]

Being passionate and insulting people are 2 different things. That shows immaturity. If you can’t debate someone respectfully then don’t do it at all 🫡. Or don’t respond? You arent forced to respond to everything

[barren ingot]

Decimating playability? Tell me more young grass hopper

[worthy abyss]

They haven’t even made any final decisions, sticking to such decisions is something You think they should do but they have further plans with the game and u got 0 clue if they work with what You want

[fallow mica]

Why are people trading expensive gear for silver coins now!?

[turbid latch]

Is the game still awful to play as a casual player lol

[wanton marten]

Yes

[turbid quest]

Fighters always teaming in goblin caves because they suck

[crisp marsh]

Because wipe is coming and no one cares

[fallow mica]

I had a guy rejecting gold at all costs and giving me a 500+ gold gear for 148 silver and even said ''NICEEE'' when i showed him the silver.

[worthy abyss]

When triumph level resets do spent blue stones get taken away or unspent ones?

[crisp marsh]

No

[soft ore]

damn. i bought this game. and i am just getting shit on over and over.

[empty sigil]

I miss those days! The hard makes it great

[stuck rune]

single player grouping is the most toxic thing you can do

[crisp marsh]

It’s end of wipe…just use this time to try to get better. Wipe comes Thursday. Then you can start from scratch like everyone.

[soft ore]

having a hella hard time. played the first beta and just feel like im getting ran down like a dog in pvp.

[stuck rune]

Welcome to dark and darker lol Focus on learning attack patterns as soon as possible!

[urban violet]

Can any1 explain the stat phys power

[umbral cradle]

This is THE WORST the game has felt. All my gold ingots are useless I can't afford gear. It is like the wipe has already effected me.

[regal spade]

INGOT STACKERS DOWN BAD LMFAO

[zinc tiger]

Make cleric mommy thick

[stone ether]

any1 else had issues with sound today? for some reason they are all over the place in the wrong directions

[jaunty prawn]

it's only a few days until wipe. not a big deal

[umbral cradle]

how else is one to store gold? I have gold keys and ingots? if there was a better storage for gold plz share it.

[cyan basalt]

how to split items??

[grim pond]

anyone else lagging like crazy in the US servers?

[arctic cove]

Servers have been trash for weeks

[cold talon]

When you convert gold to bars or keys u run the risk of those items crashing. Everyone was affected by it

[arctic cove]

'Hashwee' and 'Chinos' using ESP, wallhacks and exploits in goblin caves US east. Likely DDOSers too.

[silk moat]

GOLD ignots being 100 each what is gonna be the value holder now

[arctic cove]

Seems like since population died, the only people left playing are hackers and bots. RIP

[silk moat]

how could you even bot this game and have never seen a definitive hacker

[tepid sphinx]

Just because you don't see them doesn't mean they dont exist. but thanks for your input man that's good for you

[shadow raft]

there are very very few players that just play it to play the game anymore everyone being super toxic right now, which is a shame, i had great moments of running into cool teams of people with funny convo's but now its just rawrrrrr smash

[silk moat]

i mean has the average player experienced a definitive hacker

[arctic cove]

Yea bro how do all these bots just spam the same messages in trade chat and not get banned, really says a lot

[rustic pecan]

100%, if u ever see triple rogue its honestly 50/50 they are hackers. 100% if the names are chinese or nonsense

[silk moat]

do those bots even have an impact on you or your gameplay----its like any other game if not less and @rustic pecan - i havent seen a single chinese player or seen hacking rogues in serious gametime

[tired tulip]

Do throwing knives scale off of weapon dmg?

[tepid sphinx]

My successful reports that have lead to bans all involved insanely geared Chinese barbarians. Felling axe headshotting from distances I know weren't possible, them being able to find people who are not in sight or making any noise.

@silk moat if you aren't experienced and understand what is and isnt possible with weapons etc you won't even know you got killed by a cheater

[arctic cove]

Yes playing HR the hackers are insanely impactful, getting insta Xbowed from 100ft away when you walk around a corner is just crazy when they cant even hear your footsteps or have any sign of you coming.

[gritty elm]

PLS FIX AIMBOT ON SKELLY CROSSBOW AND PLS FIX NPCS HITTING YOU WITH ARROWS THROUGH WALLS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

[tepid sphinx]

Yes they do. They scale with any items that has the white text 'weapon damage' basically adding to that value.

[rustic pecan]

no wonder franies hurt so much on these bis barbs, its pure weapon dmg with these shameless people

[tepid sphinx]

Barbs make it crazier since they have 30 base strength so their physical power bonus impacts any weapon damage

[carmine vigil]

It's just base strength plus axe perks, no barb actually builds into weapon damage, they do enough already

[elfin lance]

@soft pulsar magical healing stat increases healing you receive from clerics

[rustic pecan]

clueless, barbs are constantly rolling around with armor rating+weapon dmg. every class is putting prio on armor rating

[arctic cove]

Well hackers and bots run this game now, yall have fun

[carmine vigil]

Yeah armor rating, not weapon damage you flop, any decent barb will build armor/magic resist and move speed, but yeah, I'm clueless 😂

[rustic pecan]

clueless promise you, you will find armor rating + weapon dmg on a Barbs gear first before agi+armor rating

[carmine vigil]

Says the guy that didn't know how throwing axes worked 😂

[rustic pecan]

all you need is iron will, regal gamb and torq of soul for good MR. now youre just coping xd

[lilac prairie]

whats the point of level 20 if u get all perks atr level 15

[hazy lintel]

welp. I can fully say, i hate the weapon damage stacking. a rouge just runs up to me, no hide bonuses, just 3 taps me and runs off. I actually had decent gear too and idk what to do when i just get 3 tapped. +20 weapon damage is unbeatable. There isnt skill in that.

[rigid gorge]

The yet-unreleased talent tree

[lapis veldt]

• Add a NPC or the function to the Treasurer in his "Services" area to convert our Gold Coin in "GOLD BAR" (Not Ingot), each Gold Bar would be equal to 1000G or 5000g and would stack until 5. Wouldnt be charged any tax to convert the gold, but to turn the gold bar in Gold Coin again would be charged a 5% of the value to help with gold sink in the game.

• Remove the Weapon Damage stats from any gear, keep it only in Weapons and Rings, this way the game will be less focused in stack those stats and reduce the "one-hit-kill" meta we do have currently, giving more space to fights duration and time to reaction.

• Add some personality to our current Rarity System, some ideas I have is to didnt allow to any stats in all any rarity. For example, Weapon Damage +3 should only be possible in legendary, Rare Gear should only be possible have Weapon Damage +1 and Epic Gear +2, we really need to have a disparity in gear power other than the numbers of rolls. This way epic and legendary gear really would be expensive and worth to use/craft.

• Add new craftable gear, theres too many craft material that didnt have any use, being able to craft gear with what you found in the dungeon should help new players and also movement the craft market, aswell giving another option to gear that we can use in our runs.

• Give new functions to Silver Coin, let us exchange for supply like Bandage or Potions. Honestly Silver Coin currently is just "gold that occupies another slot", If you remove them from the game nobody would even feel they're missing, because theres no use or funcion to be used, so please, lets us use the Silver Coin for something.
  Thoughts?

[eternal surge]

ive realized the only time i ever die in this game when it comes to pvp is when the other person has 20 extra damage on their gear. can this hurry up and be removed before it kills the game??

[timid crest]

Too late

[trail sky]

I see we have removed player count?

[uneven ermine]

HOW ABOUT SOMETHING FOR FIGHTER VS CASTER ANYTHING PLEASE let me guess probably more warlock spells with new patch right?

[quiet blaze]

every game is FULL with 1shot rangers, what is this shitty balance???

[boreal ledge]

Just use a crossbow like every other fighter.

[uneven ermine]

takes too long to reload 1 on 1, i guess i could load up on franchescas or something but shouldnt have to pay 60g to fight a class weapon mastery was the other option i suppose

[eternal surge]

just use weapon mastery and use a longbow then, this is coming from a fighter main, i dont like longbow, actually prefer crossbow but yknow

[boreal ledge]

Land your shot and its a 1 shot on wizards. Throw axes are 2 shots.
The matchup favours fighter right now

[tepid sphinx]

Crossbow is a great option against casters. If you refuse to use it then don't complain

[sonic maple]

MUST BE NICE TO BE A BARD

[civic juniper]

melee class cries about being at a slight disadvantage against a ranged class when fighting at range! Find a way to get in close or pick up a crossbow (which can typically 1 or 2 shot casters), your class shouldn't be on equal playing grounds with every other class in every scenario

[undone scroll]

Does Bard benefit from magic penetration and magic healing?

[novel tendon]

Could you let us equip stuff and move around stuff when we're resting and meditating it's just so boring and it would be good qol

[swift bronze]

fix the lag oceania is genuine unplayable

[quasi root]

I truely do love dying to a team of full rubysilver armor and legendary weapons with inventory full of potions in as a level 7 in a normal ruins game

[limber verge]

wipe is in a couple days, it's the weekend before wipe. People want to use the gear they got. You'll get over it champ! you're a big boy.

[icy pulsar]

For whatever reason they took out gear cap, they keep giving and taking from players. Going to GiG

[quasi root]

so go play high roller than? like fight players that stand a chance

[limber verge]

I'm not the one that killed you, I told you why they're doing it. Like I said, You'll be okay!

[flat mountain]

yea just died to rangers with +2 weapon damage on every piece of gear. just got legitimately oneshot by a recurve as wizard and watched my fighter in all orange gear die in 4 recurve shots

[shadow raft]

we definitely need some balance work done, cause its a disaster

[hazy lintel]

Yea its just rough. I know as a warlock i don't have amazing resistances to physical damage but still, not that fun when i can't even space myself between the rouge running a hundred miles an hour around the corner

[quasi root]

I try my best not to complain but its just a bit frustrated when all wipe long every day after day one i get pub stomped in every game by a guy with purples and an inven of potions

[worldly sentinel]

new player - is there no way to avoid the ground traps? I can't seem to jump over them no matter the angle

[vagrant fractal]

Most of them have space to be walked around, you can also get close to trigger it then as it goes down run across because there's a delay before it shoots out again.

[wary pine]

have you tried getting good? I can 0-1000 gold in an afternoon after work

[feral plinth]

actually need to fix up the fucking terrain i keep getting caught on random ass shit thats not even there

[vagrant fractal]

you sure it's not an invisible person sniffing your butt?

[quasi root]

You must have better luck than me because I headshot people 3 times with longsword and they still live

[wild jay]

Was talking with friends and I think it's no good that the discord is the only place to actually see what's happening. Tons of people in game probably aren't in the discord so it'd be better to just announce it on the game itself or the client, right?

[tardy fog]

[vestal falcon]

U WANT SOME FREE GOLD

[robust mica]

??

[subtle heart]

Get legendaries out of normals please and thanks

[wild jay]

Delete the discord it's hurting the game

[quasi root]

They really need to make exquisites impossible to get in normal and make high roller cheaper man

[devout yacht]

if you were good enough to both get blues/purples and kill people you would do it too haha

[vestal falcon]

YES U CAN JUMP ALL OF THEMsrry for caps trade lmao

[shadow raft]

greed is good has potential, melee combat feels good, ranged doesnt, like the spellcasting but i enjoy the casting in D&D better, but hopefully IronMace wont be out done

[robust mica]

ngl I stopped playing DaD and been playing the heck out of it! It’s so awesome comparatively

[devout yacht]

huh? you just described dnd gameplay lmao the ranged combat in the gameplay video looked WAY op so no thanks

[shadow raft]

the arrows are really really slow, its not that bad, gameplay is the same, TTK is much longer tho

[dry brook]

is there only one goblin caves high roller map?

[edgy lagoon]

Every spell and arrow in greed is good feels awful, the melee combat feels fine because no one can hit anything ranges so there’s no skill expression in the game, it’s just a straight wail on each other whoever has better gear wins

[devout yacht]

yes and you've been training for it since they added it to the regular gc map rotation!

[glass comet]

Delete the game it’s hurting the genre

[twilit sail]

Btw the chance of getting a golden coin chest is 1/185,000.

[fluid lion]

Get rid of the strom this game is not a fucking br if I wanted to play that type of game I would play fornite like you have two sec to fight get out of strom have Pve on your ass and die to the strom like it useless in this type of game 🤦‍♂️

[rapid vapor]

If you mean ground spike traps you can trigger them with a torch or by gently tapping forward until you trigger it without damaging yourself then when the spikes go back down you walk a few steps and crouch jump over the 2nd half of the trap. Most can be avoided by jumping or walking around the edges, but some you have to trigger and jump over before they activate again

[gusty jay]

Which is absurd lmao

[shadow raft]

honestly i dont mind the storm, whats really trash is the abysmal balance, tried playing, no point

[trim ravine]

how would extracting work?

[orchid quartz]

if they don't plan on removing the storm atleast make the timer on top of the mini map useful and show a countdown for when the storm will move instead of showing the timer for the whole match which I don't really care for

[neon sundial]

Do you guys think there will be a full combat guide of dark and darker in the future, so no one has to just go blind alone?

I really hate when a game teaches me nothing about the mechanics and will never because they dont bother to care abd expect people to learn without any help

[fluid lion]

Yes

[rapid vapor]

Honestly they just need to slow the storm and make portals spawn more evenly

[fluid lion]

Have you ever played Trakov there a timer to get out or your dead and make the ways out in one or two spots on the map to have teams left over fight for a way out slap a timer on saying you have this time to loot fight and get out or die

[devout yacht]

might be interesting but there's youtube videos and certain people here will answer questions or shepherd you

[neon sundial]

Like Aim, dodging, etc

None of the videos Ive watched have taught any of it

[trim ravine]

with portals still? where would they spawn? would we need to cross the whole map to find portals? do you know how much worse it'd be to just die because you didn't find a portal in such a big map instead of dying because of PvP forced by the storm?

[orchid quartz]

they can have both static escape points and portals to deter exit point camping same way goblin caves have right now

[fluid lion]

Well said thank you

[devout yacht]

i sent you a DM, the server doesn't like something I keep saying, maybe a youtuber's name?

[rapid vapor]

Seems a lot of content creator names are blacklisted for some reason

[wet widget]

nerf warlocks... they can spam spells and heal through anything terrible.

[spare elbow]

Because ppl where whining about streamer privilege for a week straight probably lol

[vagrant path]

Its the end of wipe. Get some gear and fight dude, damn

[spare elbow]

Ppl are running legendaries in gc bc its end wipe phase. Everyone wants to use up their stash before wipe

[tough pollen]

damn I ran like 10 gc earlier didnt see a single geared player lmao

[hot talon]

These devs are goofys, they are holding a tournament for this game hahahahaha

[vagrant path]

I will give you a golden key right now if you quit whining

[trim ravine]

1- Don't be detected
2- Don't be acquired
3- Don't be hit
4- Don't be put in the back foot
5- Don't die

[spare elbow]

Where you hear that bud?

[tough pollen]

they literally took gear cap off, just to hold a tourney in norms. they encourage all the giga streamer runnign uniques to stomp norms newbs

[orchid quartz]

if you took the time to read their rules you know they can't bring kits other than the ones they find during the event

[vagrant path]

They have to start ungeared and cannot use any merchants or trade. You cannot read

[trim ravine]

NOOOO!!! THAT WOULD MEAN THAT MY POINT OF ME NOT BEING OUTSKILLED BUT OUTGEARED WOULD CRUMBLE!!!

[hot talon]

Doesn’t matter within the 30 min all streamers will have geared up kits. They speeed run the the game and have it down to the tee, the good ones that is not the dweeb streamers

[barren ingot]

But it wasnt good thats why it was reverted

[tough pollen]

thats for the new one they just did. they had streamers running in norms with full kits before that

[fast holly]

can someone plz tell me the price of gold ingots and golden keys. i know prices are jacked caues wipe but anything helps.

[spare elbow]

Gold ingot were 200 or 250 ishlast night idk about this moment

[orchid quartz]

except you're not talking about the old one you're talking about the new one cause you did just say "they literally took gear cap off, just to hold a tourney in norms" which is you know pretty recently

[cobalt comet]

i prefer having epic gear in gc, lets me hit big when i kill them in my starter set

[fast holly]

ok im seeing that keys are going for 20 ingots is that correct or is that ppl upcharging?

[barren ingot]

get better gear then stop crying here

[orchid quartz]

then that's perfect it can showcase how easy it is to get geared if you get good enough not to mention they can't even use trader AND MERCHANT meaning only way to get healing pots would be to find it

[spare elbow]

No clue on keys, sorry.

@snow bear it wasnt good because more players stopped playing bc of that change than any other time in EA. Making that unpopular of a change would be bad for the game right now.

[barren ingot]

Yea i love stomping people like you into oblivion then i watch you come here and cry to the discord 😂

[hot talon]

Lmao that’s your response? Something that everyone already knows lol. Yes let’s waste time show casing how easy it it for “streamers” to get geared. This isn’t a show case this is the devs thinking they have a good game and doing whatever to please a small tiny group

[spare elbow]

It really is for a niche game that is not on steam. But aside from that yeah i watched the player count drop 25% maybe during that change and instantly popped back up when it was reverted — could be unrelated ofc can’t know for sure

[orchid quartz]

everyone already knows? LMAO after reading here for a bit I can see a lot of people struggling to even get an extraction cause little timmy is stomping them with BiS gears he got from player trading

[twilit sail]

More inventory space coming mid november, words cannot express how happy I am for it.

[cobalt comet]

killed full purple warlock 2 matches ago with my starter set wizard.. catch them in a bad spot and big payday.. so satisfying man.

[barren ingot]

you are the perfect example of a loud minority. Joins the discord like 16 days ago and is already sulking in discussions about how unbalanced the game is because you havent botherd to put any effort or time into the game

[tough pollen]

ye they took gear cap off. and instantly the day it happened. Streamers were going in with kill counters. saying they were doing a tourney to see who makes it to the next stage

[barren ingot]

You joined October 6th 2023. Kiddo, dont act like you have been playing longer than 2 weeks lmfao

[orchid quartz]

except you're not talking about the streamers kill count tournament but ironmace's tournament
"they literally took gear cap off, just to hold a tourney in norms. they encourage all the giga streamer runnign uniques to stomp norms newbs" the "they" you're talking about is ironmace devs cause I'm pretty sure the streamers can't take off gear cap whenever they want to

[barren ingot]

ofcourse you did. Bad back then and still bad now. Sucks to suck lil bro

[wild jay]

The player count plummeted even further after revert + wipe. I think it's really cause of the drastic changes and the fact that this discord is just honestly toxic. Idek if it has to do anything with the changes

[deft sonnet]

I'm using the performer perk to upgrade good performances to perfect, but im confused, i keep getting great, does that mean perfect?

[warm hearth]

yes, great basically means perfect

[signal nymph]

Why are they having a tournament instead of focusing on fixing the cheating/server issues/overall game balance? lol

[orchid quartz]

cause most competent game dev companies have event holders for events and game developers for developing the game

[wild jay]

A prime example of why this discord is a problem. People will literally come up with complaints and people who are unhappy will just keep finding more reasons to be unhappy. They can do both and tourneys inspire sportsmanship. I was happy to hear about it

[eternal surge]

any word on damage gear being removed?

[orchid quartz]

I heard rumors about them planning on removing it but no official word yet I think

[eternal surge]

well if anything could kill the game, its damage gear, so they better hurry up. getting tired of losing solely because of +25 damage on someones gear set when i dont have any because i dont play 95 hours a day and make 600g per run. damage gear makes the game so lopsided in match balance its crazy

[wild jay]

If they remove damage gear they gotta atleast buff base rogue because rogue will become garbage. Also I support it's removal from gear

[remote flicker]

Damage should only drop on weapons not armor tbh. Putting it on armor makes it min max city. Thats why so many one shot builds exist. Taking it off armor will tank your ability to 1 shot someone

[trim ravine]

base rogue is awful if you're doing anything but ratting around

[gusty jay]

Thats exactly what hotfix 15 was, a complete overhaul to rolls on armor/weapons/jewelry. Jewelry could have +all att, weapons could have +damage, etc. it was amazing until all the neckbeards came to discord to cry and trash talk all the people praising it, then for some bs reason, it got rolled back to previous hotfix.

[remote flicker]

People love saying the game is “hardcore” but hardcore ≠ unfair. Making the game virtually unfair for newer players to get into is what some other “hardcore” games fall victim too

[trim ravine]

Gear was pointless because there was nothing to strive towards. BiS and WiS was literally the same thing. I'm sure it must've been fun for you though, having communism for a day. You'd get bored to, but devs do have some foresight.

@remote flicker Unfair is when people who grind for their gear get to use it however they like it.

[gusty jay]

Gear was not pointless in the slightest. You must have such a delusional idea of what a 'build' is. Stacking weapon damage on every single piece of gear is the most brain dead way of building a game - giving dog water players such a massive crutch that it is no longer fair. Experience/Skill cannot currently compensate for the massive gear disparity that currently exists.

[signal nymph]

I’m asking a genuine question, not complaining. I think it would be all hands on deck to focus on getting the game running to its full potential. While I do enjoy watching people play the game, it’s every single day I watch some misfortune happen and hear of something else that’s killing the game. Watch any decent streamer and it’s always the same all stream long. People “complaining” that the game they enjoy keeps getting flip flopped and no sense of actual direction for where they want to be. I understand it’s early access but what does having a tournament actual do for the progress of the game itself? Please enlighten me as to what this tournament will do for the game at all? Since you’ve assumed you know my full intentions just by the question I’ve asked, I’ll assume you know exactly what this tourney will bring to the table in the long run. I haven’t been playing this game very long but it reminds me of a teenage girl, all over the place and can’t make up their mind. It’s very off putting. There are clear as day problems that lots of people have and instead of addressing them directly we are getting a tourney to take our attention away from how bad the changes that keep happening are.

[cold talon]

Idk if they flipflop as much as people say they do. Also why can’t they just have a tournament for fun? It’s not like they are devoting development time to it. Just tracking kills.

[orchid quartz]

I know this question wasn't for me but I'm just gonna throw my opinion on it anyway
Apart from publicity that can bring in a lot more players, balance wise it can show to the devs how some mechanics are just unfun and feel completely unnecessary. Hell it would be even be better if devs joined in on the fun too so that they can have first hand experience and maybe that'll make them reconsider some mechanics they have in the game(a good example of this is a video called "Dead by Daylight developer getting a taste of his own medicine" after that incident a plethora of changes came) I know that a lot of players can see the problem but most devs rely on statistics and data to balance their game which often leads to them nerfing/buffing the wrong things.

[eternal surge]

actually if anything the tournament is gonna bring even more light to the issues the game has, namely damage gear, if it isnt removed before the tournament. if it was streamers vs streamers, we wouldnt see the problems as much. but its streamers vs the normal crowd, so itll for sure bring the light how actually insane the issues are

[elder root]

trueeeeee

[cold talon]

I also think the tournament will show the people that they too can gear up from nothing if they play well. Also, it might show the devs how good an SSF mode could be which would be great for everyone

[eternal surge]

when it says playing great music, does that mean you got it perfect? im trying to look it up, and the term "great" doesnt show up anywhere but during gameplay, and "great" isnt a term used in the descriptions of the different abilities

[remote flicker]

No unfair is when freshies don’t have a chance to get gear because the high geared players are stomping their brains in. With no incentive to go to high roller.

[forest mist]

Lmao tournament is a joke, why start a secret tournament with only the cringey youtubers able to be involved? They're just showing their hand that they only listen to the brainlets that make youtube videos. I've literally never seen a dark and darker video where they knew what they were talking about.

[trim ravine]

I built my stash and character from scratch this week with 2 hours/day playing. Skill issue!!

[subtle heart]

Buff ball is still meta 💔

[cold talon]

There is no such thing as a fair fight in this game

[remote flicker]

Wow you’re so fucking cool! Here’s a gold star ⭐️. So did I, you’re so special though, happy for you

[shell dove]

[vivid pendant]

everyone crying about fair fights, acting like 1v1 in gc is a fair fight

[trim ravine]

"unfair is when freshies don’t have a chance to get gear because the high geared players are stomping their brains in." So what's the issue? I'll give you a tip. It starts with the letter "s" and ends in "kill"

[cold talon]

Yea like i said no such thing. Someone will always have an advantage. Whether it’s positioning. Zone. Gear. Or class matchup.

[remote jacinth]

Everyone complaining about noobs dying to geared teams seem to forget those noobs die to mobs 90% of the time

[orchid quartz]

you gotta believe me man that crossbow skelly was purple BiS crossbow

[forest mist]

They fucked the coding up when they made the goblin mage have homing, now all projectiles fired by AI have homing, crossbow bolts curving more than the bullets in Wanted
I could give them a list of bugs and balance fixes but i dont have a youtube account so they probably wont listen to me

[cold talon]

I’m convinced the people that complain about the game being unfair are the people i see dying to goblin archer in the first 2 mins of a GC run

[remote jacinth]

I've seen 7 people die to globins in 1 minute before. The vast majority of people suck at this game

[trim ravine]

Crazy how people complain about each single one of these things as if they weren't under theIR control.

positioning
"ROGUE CAN GET TO SPOTS NO ONE CAN WITH D JUMP1!1! PLS NERF!1!!"
Zone
"REMOVE CIRCLE!!11!"
Gear
"NERF WEAP DMG!!11"
class matchup
"NERF x CLASS!!1"

[forest mist]

There's 7 people in GC lobbies, so i guess you died too then... uh oh.. you must also suck

[remote jacinth]

Before the change. I don't play GC anymore bc I hate the map changes. I disliked HR GC

If I'm going solo I go ruins most the time

[cold talon]

Well yes nothing can possibly be their fault right? First game on see a guy with a cape. “This game has pvp” rush him. Die in 2 hits. “THIS GAME IS UNFAIR I SHOULD HAVE A CHACE TO KILL THAT GUY”

[forest mist]

I was just messing with you, i totally hear ya. GC is honestly a terrible map, solo crypts is the only way (Y)

[remote jacinth]

Honestly your not wrong bc crypts has less people total than ruins. And if I know there's a juiced team I steer clear of them if I can

[forest mist]

Totally, you can loot up from 1 or 2 rooms by yourself and just avoid the juiced teams and solo kill the bad ones, with the added bonus of being able to do the inferno for extra stuff

[native hill]

I have 11 magical healing on my warlock kit rn, yall think its still worth running vampirism or nah?

[remote jacinth]

Probably there isn't much else to run

Does anyone know if ranged attacks proc the DMG reflect perk

[cold talon]

Hell yes. Cause now u have 14. Go make more people complain about hydra healing cause it’s funny. @remote jacinth no it’s only melee attacks

[native hill]

o7

[south igloo]

when is wipe

[wild jay]

? It's not skill, it's experienced vs non experienced. Yeah some people might be good but you wanna foster a place where people wanna get good. If you don't, they just leave. And if you actually like this game, then you'll want new players to play, or you'll watch the game you like die

[earnest carbon]

the tournament players are gonna get stomped unless IM pulls a massive economy rebalance out of their asses for the hotfix lol
they're going to whine to their viewers for hours and everyone will come away thinking "man this Dark and Darker game is kinda shit"

[neon horizon]

Is there weapon damage +3 on Boots, gloves and helmet?

[knotty raft]

yo, the past few weeks my game has been rubber banding terribly. My connection is fine and the game hasnt done this before. I have reinstalled but it didnt do anything. any tips?

[trim ravine]

It's not skill, it's experienced vs non experienced
The difference between experienced vs non experienced is skill.

[wild jay]

It's not mutually exclusive. Experienced people aren't necessarily skilled, inexperienced aren't necessarily unskilled. You're just compartmentalizing the two

[tawdry rampart]

Just a server thing. Hopefully they get their shit together eventually

[knotty raft]

the people i play with dont have a problem

[hoary cove]

do i need to have the lantern activly in my hand to get the stat benefits from it

[tawdry rampart]

Me and everyone I know and have met have a rubber banding problem in this game but no issues in any other games. Could depend on the server you play on or time tho. I’m on na east

[signal nymph]

Bruh you gunna just ignore what i asked you earlier and just continue to offer no substantial advice in chat? Why you even typing in here ? Google the word experienced my guy. Maybe you should slow your roll with trying to sound like you know what you're talking about lol .

[vapid oyster]

yes

[deft minnow]

quick question does demons glee deal magical damage im looking at it and says +1 magical damage?

[marble tangle]

Any piece of gear that gives + Magical damage, won't do additional magic damage, unless you're already doing magical damage...

So just for example's sake.. If you're a fighter, and you swing Demon's Glee, you won't do any magical damage.
But if you're a Rogue, and you have the poison damage passive perk, then yes, it will add magical damage to that. Because the poison does magical damage.

Likewise, if something adds physical damage, and you use a spell that does 0 physical damage- It won't be added into the spell's damage.

*iirc, True magic damage doesn't actually add magical damage to the Rogue's poison btw.

[remote flicker]

Preciate the reply for me I was at work😭

[signal nymph]

I would like to see it be less gear dependent

[marble tangle]

Wait and see what the patch on Thursday will bring.

[marsh monolith]

Just wish they made purple gear worse and characters better in general. For example Warlock is too dependent on tons of +magical healing. I feel the gap from little to lots should be less impactful. Also the +++ weapon damage should have lower values on all types of items

[marble tangle]

Warlock really doesn't need to stack magical healing imo. If Magical Healing wasn't even a roll, Warlock would still be enjoyable for me. With just +2 healing, you're at a fantastic spot.

All the +Damage stuff is insane, and I hope it gets nerfed into oblivion.

[junior bison]

How much do yall think 10 ruby silver ingots go for?
Serious btw, just spent over 1000g in ruby silver, buying it cheap and planning to sell high

[marble tangle]

There's a wipe Thursday, sooo.. The economy is in chaos right now.

[marsh monolith]

+2 healing is only 0,5 extra per tick I believe. So after using a spell you get 15 hp back instead of 10. which nets you 10 hp since spell cost 5. Which is twice as good. But nothing compared to if you have like 10. which would be 2,5 extra per trick giving you 35 hp back netting a bonus of 30 hp. Hardly balanced imo.

[worn flame]

What's even a good cutoff for magic healing before building magic power/additional magic dam

[orchid token]

what happened to price of gold O_O

[junior bison]

It crashed, i called it btw

[idle sky]

Lookin for an ungeared poor ranger to give the rest of my kits to as I'm done with the wipe.

[marble tangle]

@marsh monolith I'm not arguing that it is, or isn't balanced, lol. Just that I don't think Warlock is entirely dependent on +Magical Healing.

@worn flame My opinion? Like I said, I think +2 is a comfortable spot. It's really quality of life, and depends on your playstyle. In Ruins, I was stacking it to +4, since there are so many more Rangers there. More likely to get shot and lose some health.

[worn flame]

What's your playstyle? Do you run blow? or phantomize? do you take hydra?

[marsh monolith]

I like BoC for Rogues running up to your face. For everything else I think Phantomize is the better option. But that is just me

[remote flicker]

I always thought warlock was cool asf. But after seeing a dude summon a hydra and curse tf out of it to gain tons of hp back I was dumbfounded

[marble tangle]

Depends on my gear at the time, tbh. I play around a lot, with a lot of different things. I wouldn't consider myself a "sweat", by any means.

Typically, I run Curse of Pain, Corrupting Power (or whatever it's called), Dark Bolt, and Hydra. You need +1 Spell cap/Knowledge for that, which is easy enough to get. I have magic shield as my last spell slot, but that needs an extra +10 Spell cap to use. So, gear dependent.

When I'm playing Ruins, I use BoC rather than Phantomize. Phantomize just sort of ditches my buddy into a 1v2 situation, lol. We tried experimenting with Flame Walk + Phantomize on me, but it requires too much coordination for me to not burn my friend, or just be a nuisance (or useless.)

But yeah, like Skurd said. BoC is a hard anti-rogue option. That said, BoC will (almost definitely) be nerfed on Thursday. As per sdf in the QnA.

[lethal viper]

Full Purples back in normals is LAME AF

[worn flame]

Thanks

[wild jay]

Lmao welcome to the real world buddy, you'll watch some kid with less experience than you outclass you one day and you'll think of this dumb discord again 1000% because of this exact reply

[native kayak]

How's bard doing nowadays? Any good still?

[marble tangle]

I can't speak for them in Crypts, against the buffball meta. But in Ruins and Gob caves, they're very viable.

[karmic vortex]

Any new players or players that need any help Dm me. I've got a group of people that play.

[warped raft]

us servers have become the home of the worst scumbags i have ever seen in games lol so sad i really hope you are not like this is real life

[velvet dome]

does strength affect how hard you shoot arrows

[marble tangle]

Yes, Dibs. Strength adds Physical Power, which adds to damage. (if I'm not mistaken. There's a whole wiki about all the stats, if you really care.)

[bleak lodge]

can we ban war maul + achilles strike?

[frank delta]

Strength adds damage to all physical damage. Physical damage is anything that isn't magical.
Will adds damage to any Magical Damage. Simply that.
Magic is anything cast or specifically states as Magical Damage..

[elder drift]

Wipe early? Wipe early? Wipe early? Wipe early? Wipe early? Wipe early?

[pearl onyx]

am i misremembering or did they go back and edit the patch notes to no longer say that unique items weren't going to be in normal matchmaking queues?

[marble tangle]

Yeah, that's definitely a thing. Original announcement said uniques were the new gear cap. They changed it after an hour or something. They probably realized it wouldn't make a difference.

[swift snow]

the game has so many cheaters lol. why even play when people are just actually walling and hunt you down

[pearl onyx]

ok cool, I've never seen so many named item teams back to back in one night as I have tonight, so thought i had misread it or something

[wraith edge]

does lantern count towards fighter dual wield perk?

[pallid notch]

Pretty sure it just said the cap was made to unique

[sand tapir]

yes

[bold mist]

yo is the game gonna be fixed on wipe

[pearl onyx]

yeah I really don't know. whatever it said has been changed so I just assume they walked back on something they had done, which would track with how things normally go

[rapid pulsar]

God I love casually getting 2 tapped from a warlocks curse of pain

[signal nymph]

Ahh yes the typical avoid and misdirect to continue to sound like you know what you're talking about, good talk.

[lusty ibex]

say that shit in the real world and see what happens buddy pal

[signal nymph]

You want my adress tough guy ? LMAO

[lusty ibex]

maybe i do big man

[umbral moth]

Bard is still really good, though a bit rough at the start

Though IMO default wizard is still worse

Bard still has access to becoming the fastest class (in terms of attack speed and movement speed) whilst also having one of the highest dps in the game when you include their armor debuff

Not to mention farming is somewhat easy cause you get luck for free as well as lockpicks for free.

Also bard’s weapon arsenal is really good

Rapier/falchon are just great mid line weapons. Their range and speed are perfect for getting hits and avoiding hits

And let’s not forget Bards have access to crossbows

And also have access to survival bows…and unironically make better use of them due to their amor debuff song

[remote flicker]

This is funniest exchange in the last hour, your feeding into it. So I’m laughing at you too

[signal nymph]

Normal convo is to hard for these guys i guess lol

[fierce copper]

anyone knows how to get the "drink coffee" emote when you resting?

[pallid notch]

It was from buying the coffee promotion iirc

[desert hemlock]

Hey so I've never used a gold key, does the room spawn in HR or normal crypts?

[pallid notch]

HR only, it spawns on top of middle pillar in colliseum map

[misty axle]

In trade post ppl asked for a currency "R", what the heck is that

[wild jay]

An hr? Like a few days lol

[marble tangle]

What are you talking about?

[quasi acorn]

anyone else's game crashing a bunch?

[fierce copper]

R means RMB, which is Chinese Yuan, 1 US dollars = 6 R (Chinese Yuan)

[subtle heart]

Typical

[twin spear]

really i thought RMB meant Ruby Metal Bar

[misty axle]

pfft, chinese issue again and again

[subtle heart]

It's a consistent thing in every game

[obtuse tartan]

Does anyone know if for demon glee the magic damage is a 1 to 1 scaling?

[twin spear]

depends on the skill/attack your doing
if you mean for poison its 50% scaling

[obtuse tartan]

For normal AA's / Rupture?

[twin spear]

rupture is phys damage so it doesnt scale with magic damage and instead scales with 50% of added phys
for basic attack im pretty sure its just 1 damage added on as magic damage

skills scaling for rogue here https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Rogue#Skills-0

[obtuse tartan]

I'm more curious about the weapon Demon Glee scaling more than the class, just to know if magic damage add is a wasted stat with it

[twin spear]

just look at it as +1 magic damage per attack that is reduced by magic resist instead of armor

[mossy adder]

how is it still a thing that stuff like zap and curse of pain can 2 tap? flat damage stacking is the bane of this game.

[remote flicker]

Yall heard pink tape?

[odd siren]

is there a place to report players for teaming in GC?

[delicate minnow]

your butt.

[twin spear]

not really cause teaming is allowed
unless preplanned but thats so hard to prove from a players perspective
dont worry too much cause ironmace is keeping tabs on players that force queue into same lobby alot so they will get banned anyway

[obtuse tartan]

Okay thanks

[quick ocean]

Question, still learning the game. How do you get spider silk? Thanks for the help!

[odd siren]

They preplanned in the Lobby and the cleric was buffing the fighter when fighting me https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/1zQ4Gj04HccRdy/krzBsTeatsty?invite=cr-MSxmdFosMTAzOTE2MDEs

[humble ivy]

i spent 5 games 1 and 2 tapping squishies with a less than 2k gear set that was nothing but weapon damage and a little agility on ranger, its too funny

[twin spear]

even teaming in pre game lobby is fine as long as its randoms again its just hard to prove if they are in a discord and force queue into same server
while its possible they forced queued into same lobby its just so hard to prove mid game from a in-game perspective

@quick ocean spider silk drops from giant spiders found on ruins and goblin caves the drop rate is pretty low so it may take time to get it by farming it
you can also look to buy it on trading hall in the misc trade
there is one on ruins that i know of and its not 100% spawn every run
there are multiple in one layout of goblin caves that will spawn every time

[quick ocean]

Thank you!

[twin spear]

this would only make balance worse they have done alot to get toward a more balanced state of the game
while it is currently not perfect it is much better than it was give it time and things will be much much better
simply reverting all the changes they have made is the wrong way to go

[fiery light]

Now I'm not saying that every change is the best one, but what I am saying is that there was some extremely busted stuff that people did not know too much at time and would be giga abused now

[novel latch]

why am i seeing post 15s in pre 15 lobbies.. they are wearing full purples against a lvl 3 lol

[twin spear]

pre 15 lobbies have been gone for awhile

[pulsar kayak]

there are no restrictions in match making anymore, lvl <15 lobbies and blue gear cap is gone

[torpid radish]

This game is going down the tube, haven't even played in days. Please balance your game so its enjoyable for your entire player base before you are left with only the small amount of players your trying to please. Thank you.

[remote flicker]

Suggest some balance changes. Let’s hear it. What do you think needs to be changed

[torpid radish]

Well for starters lets get rid of silly stats on gear like head pieces that have +weapon damage and chest pieces that give +movement speed. Weapons should be the only thing that can have +weapon damage, Boots should have movement speed. Silly shit like that but then im not a dev and that isnt my job to figure this out.

[twin spear]

While the devs do have data they collect it also matters how the community recieves an update so keep that in mind if the devs didnt listen to the community we would have tarkov 2.0 where they have a 50% cheater ratio and changes that are made that make the game unplayable simply cause its the devs "vision"

Iron mace does a solid job of listening to the community while also making changes based on the data they collect

About the +weapon damage what should be done is that gear like armor and such should only go up to +1 instead of +3 and the weapon itself should stay the same being able to roll +4 at max, this change allows gear to be worth farming but not be so overwhemingly busted at different gear levels. That being said there are other bonus stats that should follow this model. With commnity feedback on this issue they will implement a change to test it see how that is recieved then if positive likely keep it, if negative they will look for an alternate solution.

[torpid radish]

Well there's that too and i dont disagree with you ,I'm all for tweaking and taking feedback, just some of the changes that need to be made are very obvious and at times I feel iron mace takes 2 steps forward then 1 step back.

[twin spear]

As much as changes may seem obvious (yes i see it too) there is the side where they may be hard to implement while not ruining other changes, game development takes time and they have 10 devs in total with the majority probably focused on creating new content and maybe 1 or 2 people working on balance so they probably dont see everything and dont have that much time to play the game they are making and get the full picture (which is why feedback is important) trust me i understand your frustration but they have to look at all levels of play and figure out what works for every level rather than just casuals or just sweats

[torpid radish]

Good insight

[wary axle]

I like the way the game random puts stats on gear. It makes it so when you find that nicely GOD rolled weapon a much greater feeling. Instead, of having a mundane feeling everytime you find a piece of gear.

[strange rover]

how much damage do floor spike traps do? like 25? do ai enemies keep taking damage while standing in the spikes? or only when the spikes raise

[wary axle]

I do however think there are too many unecesary stats in the game. Things like True weapon damage, Bonus percentage weapon damage, Physical damage, Penetration etc etc etc A few of those stats could be removed I think!

[torpid radish]

I think it would make the balancing easier.

[twin spear]

Im not sure the exact damage but they take damage when the spikes come up and less damage while moving through active spikes

[wary axle]

Yes I totally agree with you!

[crisp crypt]

Dont you think exchange money for gold coin easily that is not unfair for most of players who want to enjoy the game?? I think most of characters are blanced when players earn gold coin by themselves. But it goes uncertain when players can use money for gold coin infinite and limitless, if i want to beat them i need to find 2more teammates who can buy many gold coins and fits! it sucks!

[snow bear]

Remove ranger from regular GC for a week or two. Guarantee more people play that map

[hazy lintel]

Are potions of luck worth it? (i play solo so)

[twin spear]

this is such an empty suggestion

@hazy lintel yes if your looting high tier containers/mini bosses or bosses

[teal vault]

sooo can anyone tell me why Gold Ingots crashed so hard?

[twin spear]

the wipe announcement, meaning players storing gold is pointless right now they will go back up after wipe probably not as much since this wipe will be shorter but the mid november wipe will have gold be back to normal

[sudden aspen]

Because wipe is about to happen lol

[snow bear]

not really. would show just how many people despise rangers

[teal vault]

okay, i thought i missed some announcement of gold being available in GC now or something, was wondering if it was just the market was flooded or not

[coarse mica]

can we have more spells on the wizard? like magic mirror to reflect a zap or a fireball. Also have G == Meditate speed and remove meditate. Wizard always mediates when rests.

[umbral cradle]

This game is just SO bad lol. I try to jump over a spider while chasing a player and get stuck on it just bouncing and unable to move. Die to mobs when literally the only thing i bought the game for was pvp. so fun, cant ever engage with players without some bullshit chasing behind you, bugging u out a 1/3rd of the time and just being annoying and unfun the other 2/3rd

[eager oracle]

game is kinda dying since wipe was announced. since this is early access anyways i think a 72 hour notice would be better.. then people wont stop playing to wait for wipe

[snow bear]

Game wipes too often. Losing players each time

[eager oracle]

its really hard to find and sell certain gear right now and i bet lots of people just walked away with bank inventory, it would be nice if there was some incentive for them to pull it out and continue to cycle through some of their loot. maybe every 10 candycorn found in the map by a player = one gingerbread man for a december event

We need a healthy balance of microtransactions and free content, otherwise games like this wont exist for more than a couple years with server costs. People are so up in arms about that but will pay $5 a month for a sub to a twitch streamer, but wouldnt for this game for some reason? is what I've observerd

[true ore]

The game is not even fully released, they are just finding out how to balance it

[severe root]

ok teaming is fine but fuck me how do you 4 v 1 in gc high roller legit cringe AF

[snow bear]

They sell it. It can be released in an unfinished state but it's still released

[karmic vortex]

@blissful estuary Just to be sure did you leave because of the @'s or because no one responded to your messages?

[twin spear]

They sell the game and say "Buy at your own risk this is an EARLY ACCESS title and there will be missing content and balance issues" and people complain even though they bought it in this state

[eager oracle]

I really wish ruins was still a 3-person map, right now there is bascially one 3-person map. with public lobbies its hard to put all your faith in one other teammate (ruins) but 3 people you at least have a chance one of them will be pulling their weight

i do think there are some spots of ruins that need some work especailly where a rouge can camp 100ft above you and drop from near the skybox of the room

[coarse mica]

I win more times by standing still in the zone for 9 minutes, kill or loot the others died to the PVE than actually going around and killing mobs.

[rapid vapor]

Wiping is a good thing. Gives people a reason to come back and grind more. I'd have nothing to do if they didn't wipe it

[remote flicker]

This is copious amounts of copium

[remote yarrow]

Cool story, how much time to grind you have per day?

[karmic vortex]

Just wanted to help you out lol.

[rapid vapor]

Probably like 4 hours. I can go from grey GC to hr inferno in like an hour of grinding maybe. It isn't hard

[weary granite]

should I be stacking movement on barb? feel like im too slow or do I just need a wiz always

[misty axle]

decent gear in decent play can find you a full of storage in only few matches

[remote flicker]

I’m wondering is why does it matter? Wiping is good either way😂

@weary granite might as well, sorry I wasn’t mentioning the wipe stuff for you. 😭, my bad. And rage also increases move speed for a short amount of time

[limpid relic]

lets say im a warlock and i have a crystal sword with magic healing on it, do i have to cast the curses with the sword to benefit from the heal or can i use a spell book and switch to the sword after?

[rapid vapor]

Most barbs I know stack axes and use Achilles

[twin spear]

yeah the main issue i see with people claiming they dont have the time others do (which is fine) they often fill their inventories with pointless stuff and wonder why they have no gold or gear, ive genuinely been thinking about making a video going into detail about how to loot efficiently

[remote yarrow]

You have to use the sword. Only whats in your Hand counts

[weary granite]

well it was meant for after wipe just curious how other barbs closed gaps

[misty axle]

Main issue on this patch most likely all the blue portal spawn around last ring, which is difficult for most unloaded player

[remote flicker]

Check it one more time 😭

[twin spear]

i dont expect people to get out of every run but its pointless when you escape with 10 white items to "use later"

[rapid vapor]

If the circle centers on the pyramid it will spawn nearly every single portal in that room. Thats just not right

[old tree]

so bad event

[eager oracle]

im major bummed a lot of the community is partying up via discord instead of using the in game channels. maybe if people were forced to play a tutorial when they buy the game there would be more people willing to party publicly

[tardy venture]

is the wizard talent "Melt" working right now? i dont see any burns being applied longer

[zealous chasm]

What ever white items you can not use, you sell them, buy ones you can or stock up on potions and bandages, then go again! Hoora!!

[rapid vapor]

Do you mean fire mastery?

[twin spear]

white gear items arent worth selling, there are so many better ways to fill your inventory and make 10x as much gold

[subtle heart]

Dude no one is going to join randomss in the gathering hall and talk in game, are you fucking dumb?

[eager oracle]

did i say that or did you just assume all of those things in your head?

[remote flicker]

I agree with the funny FF cactus man. I only use white if I’m fresh off a death and I just equip it. Taking a white out of dungeon(aside from a longbow or util) isn’t worth

[tardy venture]

Yes, is fire mastery working? no burns last longer

[misty axle]

I have no issue with balancing issue / gear, just pointing out what is the issue for timmies.
Its pointless even they stacking full load of gray stuff if they couldnt get out

[subtle heart]

"im major bummed a lot of the community is partying up via discord instead of using the in game channels"
Yeah. You did say that. And considering your reaction, my questions been answered

[chrome haven]

killed a rogue with a +15 weapon damage kit, my crossbow now does 100 damage body shots ... I never had much of an opinion on it but I think +weapon damage stats should outright be massively diminished on ranged weapons.

It's genuinely unfair at this gear level ... though I'm definitely enjoying having a rail gun

[rapid vapor]

The tooltip is mildly wrong. It changes fireballs dot to deal a base damage of 5 over 5 seconds instead of 3 over 3 seconds

[mighty trench]

where can you get spider silk?

[twin spear]

yeah but if they loot efficiently then even only making it out of 1/10th of the run they make more money and have a chance to stack up better gear to increase their odds of getting out more and more

[remote flicker]

Railgun? Bro you have an orbital cannon on your back😭. All the squishy classes are dead in 1 hit

[tardy venture]

thanks friendo

[rapid vapor]

I feel like gear fear grips a lot of players too. They find good stuff then hoard it instead of using it to up their extraction rates

[chrome haven]

killing the big spiders in HR gob caves

@remote flicker
so far, I've only killed a wizard with a single body shot.
Killed a kitted out fighter with a head shot + penetrating shot on before I don't know if he was low but he was charging at me so I assume high health

[twin spear]

yeah thats for sure a part of it, but it would help if the gear was easier to get if they are making gold to buy it more often. Gear fear is one of those thing that players will grow out of once they realize its easier to get than they thought

[remote flicker]

Damn, might be able to one shot rogues then if you can one shot wizards. It’s just hitting the slimey ones. Idk how much damage a HS would do tho you’d have to test it out

[solar sentinel]

get good, learn to dodge, learn the patterns.

[digital magnet]

dog s h i t servers eating my inputs. BUT sure do these small hasty waste of time and space changes

[eager oracle]

pulled into a fight with a low geared wizard at start of my cave run, killed him and a rouge runs up and stabs me after our fight. "ratting" shouldnt be a way people get to play the game but its also not a loot extractor or chivalry 2 on steroids

[snow bear]

disable inspecting gear in lobby or spawn everyone in their own area and if they choose to go into a central pit with everyone thats on them. So stupid getting chased by sweatlords so they can get their epeen hard if their gear is better

[tardy venture]

gear tier should be visible at a glance, not requiring an inspect imo.

[solar sentinel]

typical rogue game, sit, hide and backstab.

[eager oracle]

they should just make a rougelike if they want a rouge game because i think a lot of rouge-like things only work on pen and paper or when games are built around that, i just dont think its the best class for a game like this but its pretty good, it could be reworked into something more specific

[crimson seal]

is there like a chart that explains how much strength is equivelent to how much weapon damage
etc

[twin spear]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats this is the best place to see what each stat does in specific

[solar sentinel]

The game rogue, and 'roguelike' games have literally nothing to do with someone playing like that, nor with rogueadjacent archetypes.

The rogue problem in this game its the lightsaber problem. For classes other than fighter and barb nothing has value aside damage, so they die in one hit and try crossing the treshold to killing you in two

[eager oracle]

can you explain more I don't get what you mean exactly

[remote flicker]

I hate when slitherman takes over my thoughts

[remote yarrow]

https://grammarist.com/spelling/rogue-rouge/

[rapid vapor]

Man why do daggers have to be so awkward to use

[eager oracle]

ah ok we're going to attack the way I write instead of bringing concrete interesting conversation to the table 👏 very 👏 mature

[solar sentinel]

Lightsaber problem. Armor works as a % reduction, which means the lower ammounts of it aren't worth anything, and, because no class aside fighter can cross the 50% then no class has real use of it, barbs want hp because they can't get enough %, fighets get pdr, meanwhile everyone else only cares for damage.

A rogue will die in one hit no matter what, they just can't get enough pdr, mdr nor hp to counteract that, so, their only choice is to get enough damage to kill you in one or two hits, and the entire game design revolves around that. Its why you have rogues jumping with throwing knifes two shoting 75% pdr fighters

also thrown weapons are affected by projectile damage reduction, pretty sure they ignore pdr.

[remote yarrow]

No attack just trying to stop you from talking about Make-up Games. Also you seem to have No idea what roguelike means.

@rapid vapor daggers were pretty cool before they got nuked

[rapid vapor]

Barb can cross and does so pretty regularly.

@remote yarrow yeah, but I just find their hitboxes really hard to be accurate with

[eager oracle]

you're trying to stop me from talking? for whose benefit and for what reason?

[chrome haven]

head shots are about 40% more damage usually but depends on Head shot reduction etc

[remote flicker]

Slitherman control yo body

@chrome haven yeah that’s a big ouchie for most of the classes save fighter, cleric and barb

[rapid vapor]

50% before headshot reduction

[solar sentinel]

Ideally people aren't running northern tunics or armor rings, only if you don't have anything better.

[solar sentinel]

Daggers are a ass weapon, it's a literal no skill glue and hold lmb weapon. Always deal full damage, while you are inside the worst damage zone for enemy weapons, with no incentives to dodge, parry nor block hits, you just hope to deal enough damage faster.

[worldly rivet]

anyone know how rogue thrust perk works does it work off of lets say a ranger has 20 percent damage reduction would they then have 5 percent when u attack or 17.5

[crisp ether]

bruh i went into a dungeon got stuff extracted and i'm still with all the stuff i went in with

[rapid vapor]

In hindsight this makes sense, but today I learned rogues hide perks work on invis pots

[snow bear]

not 5%

[remote jacinth]

If it was 5% armor pen would be the most broken stat in the game

[snow bear]

thrust with weakpoint might be good atm with all the kitted out players running around

[solar sentinel]

It ignores part of the target AR, not the PDR. It used to ignore the pdr directly but not anymore

[rapid vapor]

Grants +15% increased Armor Penetration when swinging with Daggers. Does not apply to Short Sword, Rapier, Hand Crossbow, or any other non-Dagger weapon. So it should just up your armor pen by a flat 15%

[clear tinsel]

Appraisal on a piece of shit purple Felling axe with:

• +1 Resourcefulness
• +4 Weapon Damage
• +1 Additional Physical Damage

?

[rapid vapor]

Also, if you didn't know how armor pen works is its multiplied with their damage reduction and it can't go below zero so it would be .2 * (1 - .15) bringing their reduction to .17

[solar sentinel]

i'm pretty sure armor pen is applied to AR, not to pdr

[rapid vapor]

A modifier for Damage Reduction that can be acquired from certain weapons, or from the "Armor Penetration" or "Magical Penetration" affixes on gear. This stat multiplies with their Damage Reduction %, not their Armor Rating/Magic Resist Rating.

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Damage_Calculation#Penetration

[stone fulcrum]

^ This is why weakpoint can be so strong at times.

[sudden aspen]

This is wrong in so many levels lol

[rapid vapor]

I started playing around with weak point, hide, ambush, back attack, shadow runner, and stealth. It's kind of gross. I kind of want to remove stealth for thrust

[bright pike]

I think that perhaps the single biggest thing that would help people feel more comfortable trying out high roller would be some kind of practice mode.

[atomic dragon]

if im new to cleric whats the best perks and spells

[solar sentinel]

just went reading the patch notes that gave me that impression, it had to do with weakpoint changes and i missremembered it so hard.

[rapid vapor]

Blunt weapon master, holy aura, Perseverance, protection from evil. Smite, spells. Protection, bless, divine strike, holy strike, lesser heal. That's for solo at least

[solar sentinel]

pdr doesn't matter if its so low that it doesn't increase how many hits you can survive. Everyone chases damage and action speed for a reason, and why we all have the lightsaber problem on so many classes.

Also why pad tunic is usually still better than nord for barbs cause 3 strenght will do more than 16 more AR

[wise gyro]

Yeah tunic being bis for 90% of classes is a bit of a problem

[stone fulcrum]

@solar sentinel Pad tunic is just on average a BiS piece, lots of chest pieces don't have stat bonuses attached to them by default. If there was an agi chest for barb 100% they would run it.

[solar sentinel]

if there was, but there isn't

[normal reef]

We should get rid of the spectate mode when you die/extract...

[tardy sandal]

MM yes, lets make cheaters harder to punish good idea

[solar sentinel]

Its not players responsibility to police for aimbots. Spectate only adds to people double queing to snipe on others, it literally adds nothing else to the game.

Complain to ironmace until they get a propper anticheat done. Your reports of one guy every month aren't changing anything, meanwhile spectate is killing the game with sniping.

[narrow plaza]

Has anyone else had their duos gear and soul disappear from his body while ur looting it. just happened on ruins .

[twilit sail]

They're thinking of replacing it with a replay system, which will be much better.

[solar sentinel]

maybe a rogue was nearby and looted your friend, either that, or your friend DCed and their soul got booted due to that.

@twilit sail replay would be nice, avoid the sniping and still keep the fun part of spectate.

[narrow plaza]

He was on game the whole time and a rogue was my first thought but there was no one around no sound or footsteps his gear was literally disappearing off his body infront of my eyes with his soul

[solar sentinel]

yeah, then tehre was a rogue pilfering him

[magic kindle]

only your teammates can loot your soul heart, no?

[arctic cove]

Just had a cleric walk up on me and he made 0 footsteps, the audio in the game is so trash now

[narrow plaza]

Thats why i was so confused

[inland magnet]

Yes, that’s correct.

[solar sentinel]

if you start a pickpocket on someone before they die you can get a soul, but not in any other way i know.

[stable harbor]

honestly, these monkeys that are using somekind of trade script for potion of clarity needs to get shot or some shit.

[arctic cove]

The fact the devs dont even take a few minutes to ban the obvious trade bot farms, well it says a lot.

[inland magnet]

Would you like to see more races with more unique abilities? Perhaps a vampire race with the ability to bite and recharge a little bit of it’s health or a fairy that could fly, but perhaps be very weak? Or would this be too drastic of a change for this game?

[fallow basin]

What do you guys think about a way to transfer gear between characters? Im fine paying 30 gold per transfer but its basically already a feature. You just need a friend to help you move the stuff over, so why not just add it as a QOL change.

[delicate solar]

Says a lot about what? Their hands being full? They already said they are busy reworking spectator mode, they can't address everything at once. And they are still defending in court, you know. It's like ppl think they have 48 hours in a day.

Upd: These ppl are patching every week, listen to the community, laying out their plans and holding QnA sessions. But some just don't read or listen and keep thrashing them anyway. Just compare those devs with others for a sec. If you need an example about how other devs handle "fast development of necessary features", ask DayZ community :D.

[tardy sandal]

as cool flying would be, flyingrangers would ruin the game

[solar sentinel]

no, specially mobility things

[brisk nebula]

anyone know if crossbows are going to get a nurf or if less classes can use them ?

[solar sentinel]

The programmers aren't defending themselves in court, thats the lawyers job. And having a single moderator or script to apply bans to accounts announcing gold sales wouldn't be a heavy weight neither.

[delicate solar]

Like you don't see the announcements come from random numbered accounts every time, which means there is already something that makes the gold traders switch them.

Upd: And every dollar you paid to lawyer is a dollar you didn't pay your programmer or didn't have to hire another one.

[golden pasture]

why does a green geared fighter with a green crossbow do 1 shot to the head?

[solar sentinel]

Thats randomly numbered characters, they're banning chars but not accounts. I spent 3min on google and saw full instructions from g2g traders about how to do announcements ingame, and specially that only characters get deleted but accs won't be banned

[solar sentinel]

what class were you playing? and how much +damage and +strenght did those greens actually add? rarity affects the number of enchantments, but you only really need one good enchantment per piece to damage stack for xbows

[long rain]

Because Crossbows are IM’s favourite child and every other weapon gets left out in the cold

[remote yarrow]

Running naked Wizard?

[arctic cove]

Why tf does rapier not register half the side swings since last patch. Game is literally getting worse since EA, the crisp audio from the first playtests is gone and hit reg is as good as the servers.

[golden pasture]

I was warlock and not naked had 13% pdr, plus bro has like 3 additional dmg and like 3 str that’s all

[remote yarrow]

That would be Like 80dmg on a Headshot then. Not Sure If you can use Victory Strike with crossbows

[golden pasture]

Armor pen on the crossbow I guess finished the job

[arctic cove]

You can use victory strike with xbow

[remote yarrow]

Armour pen doesnt do much If you dont have Armour. Its Like -3% on your 17%. Its not a flat reduction.

@arctic cove that might boost it almost 100 then

[golden pasture]

I see, must’ve been victory strike or something

[delicate solar]

Same was said about Rangers before Quickshot, bow damage and hitslow nerfs. Little more patience, I'm sure it's in the queue given how much it's getting talked about.

[solar sentinel]

victory strike with +1 weapon damage on a max rolled green xbow

[remote yarrow]

Doubt it. They already "nerfed" it Last Patch 5% slow reduction

[golden pasture]

Rangers also op af, a geared ranger can 1 shot a warlock to the head as well.
I don’t think that’s fair considering they are also stronger face to face and faster than a warlock plus have more range and every ranged hit across the room deals 60% of your hp no matter the gear

[arctic cove]

Whatever games run by hackers and bots now anyways, hope they all have fun buying gold just to play against other rmters and exploiters

[delicate solar]

Well, you right about 5%, but you sound like -33% to the duration doesn't count ). It was a nerf, not a "nerf".

[golden pasture]

I hope they reduce all dmg by 50% so we can have some skilled fights and not getting one tapped across the map

[remote yarrow]

1 second slow is still way to Long. Recurve bow can still perma slow you

Meanwhile other classes get their Shit nerfed by 75%

[golden pasture]

Game feels like gear diff and not skill diff.
I can see why people won’t go in without gear because it’s just a free death to bis geared guy.
I remember when I used to go in without gear and leave with 10 rings and full bis gear from unskilled kids

[smoky hare]

👍

[arctic cove]

Game is purposefully made to be gear diff to support the rmters so they can just buy gold = buy skill = buy wins

[golden tinsel]

its literally just gear diff this past week ive just been getting two tapped by rogues and wizards damage stacking into infinity cant wait for gear wipe

[remote yarrow]

Like the wipe will Change anything. Unless they reduce added damage sources to Like a total of +5-10 on a full Gear Set it will be back 2 days later

[stoic cypress]

I mean it is just weird that you get a free 1 sec slow on hit, while eg. wiz have a 0,5 sec low when they get hit with ice shield...which is a perk. Does not make any sense to me.

[golden pasture]

Gear wipe won’t help. You will still get destroyed by people who get bis gear at the first day because money and gear is so easy to get.
But the real problem is that gear is very op, too much dmg on rolls you can buy insane gear for like 1500g and just run down the whole server get more gear and sell it and just snowball too easily off of it.

[arctic cove]

Did you play this last wipe? It was back to like this literally 2-3 hours after the wipe. The amount that sweats and streamers grind puts them ahead ESPECIALLY after a wipe.

[delicate solar]

Other classes? The only classes that got that "75%" treatment are Bards and Rogues. I don't remember them nerfing Clerics for example (not saying they should). Is it time to call Cleric the devs favorite or not yet?

[solar sentinel]

Does the old legendary weapons still drop? haven't had a single one drop over 16 hr bosses

[delicate solar]

With or without Luck?

[golden pasture]

Just need to fix the damage people hit you for too much and you hit them for too much as well, they should reduce all dmg for everything by 30% at least if not 50% so we can actually have some skilled fights that take time and getting into a 3 teams team fights would be not that easy like now when you just run down everything with your bis gear.

[solar sentinel]

bard with the new big luck pot for most of them, but always at least a small luck pot

[remote yarrow]

Big luck potion was such a scam. Its basically the small and the small got nerfed

[solar sentinel]

prenerf luck was far too good, but chest loots also got better so it kinda balances out

[delicate solar]

Ok, that's really sus ). Either bug or extreme coincidence.

@remote yarrow wasn't that a good decision? We really need gold sinks in the game right now anyway and it's not like it doesn't pay off even without boss run, finding one more good gearpiece for selling is enough to do that.

[golden tinsel]

guess i got lucky last wipe

[idle vine]

It was cruel giving us gear cap and then removing it, actually having a fighting chance against people with purple gear was genuinely fun but being 2 shot by a rogue is absurd

[solar sentinel]

bad rolls after bad rolls can just happen, its less than 1% drop or something, i just wanna know if they actually still drop

also does anyone know where gold coin chests drop from?

[placid glade]

can someone @ GM for me my game literally just full uninstalled itself

[patent spoke]

Cant login atm. Something is wierd with the servers " Failed to connect to the server. Quit the game".

[golden tinsel]

gear needs a huge rebalance really sick of running into 15+ weapon damage and armour pen purples in ruins

[solar sentinel]

same, sometimes when i log in it says i gotta buy the game, again

[remote yarrow]

yeah got this right now and the website doesnt load the purchases either

[delicate solar]

I'm sure the removal is as temporary as adding was. They said it was "for testing purposes" when added after all. They will just evaluate both situations and then add some other more refined solution. They aren't blind or stupid, just looking on gearcap adding and removal announcement reactions is enough to understand that the problem exists and what state was more liked by the community.

@solar sentinel from Treasure Hoards, not sure if it's map restricted, but it surely drops in hell.

[placid glade]

this is for everyone right are servers down
??/

[golden tinsel]

sdf said he hated it and wanted to remove it and didnt see its return being likely even though is ba;amced the game a lot imo

[solar sentinel]

Source on this quote?

@delicate solar how many coins can the chest hold?

[remote yarrow]

#the-tavern message

[delicate solar]

3000. It occupies 6 slots, 500 per slot.

@golden tinsel yes, I concur it won't return as is, but there will be another solution addressing the issue for sure, just not such a crude one.

[solar sentinel]

Best its how he replied to a guy with gearfear that doesn't go HR.

[golden tinsel]

in the 19th october qna someone complained about it and they the dev shared their dislike for it and wanted it removed asap i'll try to find the direct quote if you want it

[remote yarrow]

already linked it

[fluid lion]

thery makeing this game in to a br sad

[golden tinsel]

thanks boss

[delicate solar]

Why do you think that? You don't want to go in circle to PvP? Stack some PH and get comfy in the swarm )), there are plenty of forgotten portals there most times. It's not like there is no options like in real BR.

[idle vine]

I enjoy the br aspect, I love the forced pvp but i find it difficult to enjoy dying to a fighter that takes no damage because he is wearing full purple dmg reduction

[golden tinsel]

every game i get into in normals has that one or two stacked groups with tons of weapon damage or armour rating that either do tons of damage or take none at all steam rolling everyone else just cause they dont wanna take their shiny purples into hr to face off against groups thatll be able to do the same stuff they do to other lobbies

[solar sentinel]

magic damage will still be dealing full dmg

[sweet fossil]

can you open the door with the loot without killing the troll?

[delicate solar]

Saw some fighters with crystal swords abusing that to kill other fighters ), but AFAIK barb can actually be both PDR and MR.

[unborn basalt]

anyone for duos

[solar sentinel]

barbs have fuckloads of hp, thats it. 25% mr doesn't do much

[delicate solar]

I mean due to having barb specific MR gear they can kit to be >50% of both. AND around 200hp )).

[mental glade]

Cant bring gear to HR because there are pregame teaming like every other round. (Sea server). Idk. where to enjoy solo geared pvp aspect of this game, I am not sure.

[swift trail]

i got the Inventoryreset after extracting from a portal (having the same gear you had before you went into the dungeon). I thought they fixed that

[golden tinsel]

yeah to be fair high rollers are filled with pregame teamers and whatnot and in oce its real bad idk about the other regions

[remote yarrow]

Mhh solo hell as cleric isnt even that bad. Sadly only blue loot

[arctic cove]

In NA its the same filled with 'CHnm1', 'xaio123', etc all teamed in a group and they happen to know exactly where you are 🙂

[earnest current]

why i can't see name and chat in trade guy ?

[frigid grail]

They have one of their solo mates die and he can spectate..

[elfin surge]

i keep getting kicked from game saying game ended abrubtly in raid

[uneven ermine]

right you would think common sense HELLO DEVS ban these accounts?

[trim heron]

its more better all 3 have an extra acc n pc and q snipe themselfs to do it

[thin patrol]

is there a wipe tomorrow or have they still not announced when a wipe will happen?

[remote yarrow]

literally written in announcements. They actually have announced 2 wipes

[wheat flax]

does any class use agility, knowledge, and weapon damage? warlock?

[remote yarrow]

bard maybe not sure if they need knowledge anymore

[upper kraken]

@thin patrol I believe they announced it, in https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/988662112454836234

[vestal falcon]

Everyone uses agility and same with weapon dam just not wiz

[wheat flax]

Of course. Just not sure which class used the knowledge the best on top of those two

[fluid lion]

Strom and many other thing you find in a br like fornite you see this shit in any other looter Game are you loot and Evec no man you see this type of game on cod or Fortnite olny thing is we get to keep are gear

[vestal falcon]

Cleric warlock would be the 2 big ones

[fluid lion]

I play many of these games and type and not one has the crap the dev theme toght would be a good idea to throw in the strom is pointless make area of points of interest to make fights happen hunt other players down with mission not hard to do it if you want fornite look a like this is it and they wonder why the player base keep dropping down

[delicate solar]

Gosh you are hard to read )). Still not seeing your point, as I said storm does not really force you to fight if you are prepared for it, you can pretty much live outside the zone with some PH and meds which is impossible in any real BR.

[remote yarrow]

yeah, a stock cleric with heal and sanctuary + 24g campfire can literally chill in the swarm until the game ends

[delicate solar]

Well, Cleric and Warlock are privileged in this case, but any class can do it, takes around 5PH to get comfy enough AFAIK. Especially interesting in HR since the swarm damage is the same there but the risk of being in zone is much higher. Mid-high level ratting strat of sorts )).

Upd: The only class struggling with it would be Wizards due to both low HP and interaction speed.

[inner sundial]

Are we getting an auction house next wipe or not, I'm trading more than playing wtf is this

[wraith imp]

Auction house is a must. Tired of sitting 30mins+ in trade chat to get a set done.

[remote yarrow]

I will be so fun to watch all the reddit post and complaints in discord pop up cause the chads can now get a full purple bis set in 5 clicks due to having an auction house

[fluid lion]

I have a disability, my friend and I’m dyslexic. I’m sorry that my spelling is hard for you to read, and if it gives you some kind of aneurisms or anything. That’s on you not everybody perfect sorry sick of that hearing that all the time dose get to a person that really try’s with there grammar and spelling

[silk moat]

speak for yourself im perfect

[delicate solar]

Oh? Really sorry to hear that. It's not that I'm mad or anything, I just stated the fact. I had no way of knowing it's not just your choice. Wish you all the best.

[fluid lion]

Lmao ya ok keep telling your self that how big of an ego you have just shows your how self Zorbaz you are too. I’m Bering a smart ass lol 😂

[silk moat]

i was joking lol yourspelling is fine tbh

[fluid lion]

I’m sorry if I sound rude I apologize picked on a lot for it and then put down for it and everything else and I just had gotten to me over the years to the point where I get so like defensive

[silk moat]

it's alright, can we kiss to make up 😚

[fluid lion]

I’m so down can we hold to atfer 😂 much love

[delicate solar]

Here you demonstrated a trait that is infinitely more valuable than an ability to spell right ). I understand that's a sore spot for you, sincerely sorry for touching it and of course hold no hard feelings for your reaction.

[fluid lion]

Your good it was on me really I’m a nice person and I did not mean to sound as such so I apologize on my behalf

[north crest]

Hi, I found a big mistake on the ranger class. Let me explain. Shooting the arrow is fun, but when you pick one up. It is placed directly in the inventory, but logically it should be placed directly in the quiver. Am I the only one who thinks this?

[patent blaze]

In my opinion the safe should be removed

[weary glade]

Then explain the stacks of arrows already in your inventory. Although the quivers we use must be tiny as hell to only fit 6-10 arrows in them lol

[raw basin]

Probably as you are playing a video game with walking skeletons and magic

[fluid lion]

Ummmm why am I Bering kick out of games mid match if that the case dev team I want my shit back thanks that bull shit hand down this game going to die like marauders

[devout yacht]

can't wait for you to complain every patch

brooo, if that fighter hit you from a cross the map, he deserves to win. That's insanely hard to do with the bolt drop off range lmao

[scenic pollen]

Lmao side note, that dude is a fucking amazing shot. 2 I doubt you get one shot as a 70% dr fighter.

edit: sorry I'm fucking stupid, thank you cactus man

[twin spear]

hes saying the fighter with the crossbow had 70% pdr but i still doubt that a fighter with a 1shot crossbow has that much pdr

[white sorrel]

Eh, Fighter can get 50% PDR with grey plate and a shield.

[elder orbit]

virginia down

[carmine echo]

down for me also

[frank delta]

Yep, Virginia East server is down.

[thin patrol]

what does 110r mean in trading?

[white sorrel]

I think r is real money in China

[surreal anchor]

dude like can we please make ruins like 10 percent brighter

[twin spear]

50% is low compared to 70% you would need to start getting some gear with percent damage reduction as a bonus stat

[white sorrel]

The game has a brightness setting and your screen has a brightness setting. @twin spear I said grey gear, if they're one tapping they probably have purple which is going to be a lot more armor total. A few of their bonuses are probably +physical damage resistance % or +armor rating as well as their +Weapon damage and stuff.

[modest canyon]

In times of being unable to play, does anyone else like to gently slap each of their bare butt cheeks one at a time to mimic the sound of their little feet clapping against the dungeon floor?

[twin spear]

i totally get what your saying but with how rare that gear is im just doubting the guy complaining is all

[subtle heart]

@modest canyon yes

[frank delta]

MAn, early morning games are the worst. Need to remember to remove all gear and go naked to get in the groove.

[white sorrel]

I do think crossbow is similar to how the falchion was. It does need a slight nerf. Maybe lower damage and increase armor pen.

[modest canyon]

Glad it’s not just me

[twin spear]

yeah for sure but on fighter the slow reload balances it more than other bows so i think crossbow should get EITHER
-a nerf to its damage in the range of 3-5
-make the reload take 1.5 seconds longer

they could also tie the reload speed to resourcefulness

[rare skiff]

I think crossbow damage should be doubled if you get shot in the head with a bolt IRl you'll die the game is too unrealistic rn

[solar sentinel]

always fun to take 97 damage from a single zap

[agile elm]

just oneshot the wizard from far away with ur crossbow

[twin spear]

anyone know why US EAST is down?

[solar sentinel]

not doable when the wiz is rating, invis pot and sit in a corner, i do the same when farming HR.

[timber isle]

in terms of currency, what is R and vx? someone is selling a lot of items for "50r + vx"

[muted edge]

probably so the players in west can farm people for a bit when they team up

[rare skiff]

its an equation you have to solve for X

[thin patrol]

why are chinese people selling items in eu servers

[subtle heart]

we have to make it 0 incentive for high rollers to play normals just make normals drop max blue and highroller doesent drop green and blue ...

[twin spear]

trade servers are all linked there is no regional trade

[agile elm]

"just wait 60sec before entering room to make sure nobody is invis"

[river steppe]

+1 for solo self found

[frank delta]

Just always plan for a rogue to be there and you'll be fine. Swing at the corners if you're paranoid, it's a feature of the game
Sorry, wrong reply didn't realize it was on

[scenic pollen]

Side note as nerdy and lame as it sounds I wish DaD had more story.

What kind of God do the clerics pray to in a world where adventurer's risk their lives going into dungeons and killing liches? Whose the maiden we find throughout the dungeon that seemingly gets corrupted in the inferno.
How do curses, magic, and the miracles that clerics do work? Are they all part of the same system or?
What's life like outside of the dungeons/ruins that adventurers explore?
Were the lower crypts (inferno) always like this? Or was it corrupted somehow?
What is the dark swarm(does it exist everywhere)?, etc

Would be neat if IM actually fleshed that out at some point

[frank delta]

I think lockpicking should just give you 5 free keys per game (Not physical keys) and that's it, not an unlimited number. At the same time, i'd have to argue about the Bards Knock Song just opening everything around it.

[twin spear]

im sure at some point there will be lore but they said the game is based off dungeons and dragons 5th edition so for now you could look at that for some world building and it would be pretty similar to what they would come up with in the future most likely

[scenic pollen]

I think when they meant based on 5e they meant more classes wise, I.E what to expect in terms of content. maybe they meant story too though who knows, But that would probably cause issues with WotC

Either way, I'm hoping for eldritch horror stuff, though I doubt it. lmao

[willow storm]

anyone want to buy mats for Grimsmile ring & Fangs of death Neclace ?

[scenic pollen]

lmao sorry probably wrong wording. I'm just curious behind like any logic in this game.

Mostly why the fuck does the dark swarm exist/is it outside the dungeon.

Why the fuck does it non stop flood the dungeon. and then seemingly leave.

WHO THE FUCK IS STUFFING POTS WITH WRAPPED UP SPIDERS. WHO THE FUCK EVEN HAD THIS MANY PET SPIDERS

[frank delta]

MUMMY SPIDER LIVES MATTER!

[scenic pollen]

They do but still wtf.

[modest iron]

Is it allowed to post a youtube link ?

Is this a bug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAAI2f3G9wI ?

[quaint stump]

why na down

[twin spear]

depends on if its relevant to the channel your posting in

[golden tinsel]

if there are people that get off to feet and animals, is this really that far of a leap in possibilty lmao

[scenic pollen]

good point

[golden tinsel]

quick question what does bis mean/stand for never really found out lol

[modest iron]

best in slot

[dreamy silo]

3 rangers using wall hacks, fun game watching them push right at everyone and kill the entire lobby

[slate pebble]

us east still down?

[scenic pollen]

lmao yeah, was hoping they hire someone to make a decent story

but seeing that they wont even buy decent servers I doubt it

[shadow raft]

Honestly its a big shame, D&D has a lot of potential, but its community is overly toxic now after the meta has been solidified, games arent as interesting anymore when you dont have those fun encounters, they all just buff ball barbarian teams or one tap rangers. There isnt much in the way of comp diversity, the buffs are overtuned, pvp severly unbalanced. Game is still playable for sure, but you have to really put in extra effort and try hard to survive you cant just have fun to have fun anymore.

[fierce valve]

Add A Skybox to RUINS please for god sake

[glass comet]

Let’s blame the community and not the jr lvl nexxon emoloyees

[scenic pollen]

It will always be my firm opinion this game and developers were not ready for EA. But whether it was need for money/pressure from the community they ended up doing it anyways.
IM strongsuit was having enough development and testing time to release new content in between playtests and then close the tests before meta's go realized. And exploits/all that poopy stuff became the norm.

Thought obviosuly it's all downhill or uphill from here, just gotta hope IM can figure this stuff out before the community fully turns on it.

[uneven nebula]

why is someone using famine in normal lobbies.. ugh this game is so wrecked

[subtle heart]

i hope they fix the robocop killing children issue and do gear cap again. imigine losing potentionally new players by stroking the geargamerwords cooks whereas new players in the game get slaughtered by mindless mining ruby zombies who in fact are garbage at the game

[dreamy silo]

i hope they do more for cheaters

[stuck dove]

holy cow this entire lobby is chinese rip my kit

[river steppe]

If they remove player trading then it will be much more of a fair fight. If you see a player with really good gear he will actually risk all of it for the power he gains. Rebuying blue / purple from tradechat is the lamest fucking shit that is in this game its completely antithetical to the dnd gameplay this game strives to emulate.
Also without trading everything that scales well with gear will be indirectly nerfed

[shadow raft]

Finally someone who responds with something aside from "you're bad" I do agree, they arent putting enough effort in the places it needs honestly. The data collection they seem to be doing isnt working out too well.

[compact ivy]

No endgame yet, pretty much, so yeah 😦

[frank delta]

Current state of the game really has nowhere else to go for pvp. Mob density and beefed stats makes HR more difficult. Why play in a far mroe difficult zone when you can just have the time of your life running through regular mobs and ,probability wise, lower geared players

[river steppe]

@frank delta because good gear is way too easy to find

[jaunty prawn]

idk man. i'm all for making the new player experience good, but getting geared is not that hard nowadays. there should be a space just for newbies to learn the game but acting like everyone that has gear is a no life sweatie is uhh

[frank delta]

It's not that good gear is easy to find as much as the disparity of stat bonus you can build in gear is wildly disproportional to what the character can handle health wise. That's when we get all of the 1 shot kill flames, rightfully so too

[raw warren]

Aren't they planning to remove the random stats?

[modest wren]

pre 15 lobbys where the was to go

[uneven nebula]

WHY ARE THERE PLAYERS RUNNING NORMS WITH FAMINE BUFF BALL?!???? LIKE CMON MANG

[subtle heart]

i dont talk about geared ppl playing hr i talk about top geared people stomping normal lobbies

[cold talon]

Cause it’s 4 days until wipe. Who cares

[shadow raft]

That sadly doesnt fix the core issues, it just helps with the overgearing issue in normals, which needs to be fixed not by removing trade chat, but by creating higher level of content that provides more profits to those players, if you keep running norms in good gear you shouldnt make squat. That will also remove the overgearing issue.

[jaunty prawn]

hr has little to do with it. and unless the goblin caves teaming issue is resolved i just wont be playing there. in the br server there's always people teaming up

[sterile acorn]

Bro why is Boc so strong

[frank delta]

It can easily be multiplied with magic damage boost

[scarlet gate]

I hope that they slightly weaken mobs in the future. As is currently clearing rooms just takes so long especially with how fast the zone moves. The nodes on the edge of the map rarely ever get cleared. So I've got a few ideas

1. Increase storm time to allow outer nodes to be cleared

2. Like I said earlier make mobs weaker so you're able to clear quicker. (Having to hit 7+ headshots with rogue to kill a normal skeleton is kinda painful)

3. Give incentive to clear rooms. Such as a lions head or a gold chest after fully killing all mobs in a node.

4. Buff mob loot. We've already had a chest loot buff. Now increase regular mob loot. Half the time I don't even loot mobs currently just because their drops suck so add some incentive to loot them.

[silent skiff]

is us east down for anyone else

[modest wren]

idk more loot would be kinda bad for the eco / stash space

[river steppe]

Higher level content which presumably rewards higher level gear ... Its a non solution which only delays the situation but it will be like this again in no time.
Removing player trading would actually solve all of this as people with high gear who want to stomp a lobby risk losing their pieces. They can rack up a couple sets but inventory space is finite even amongst 3 people. And whatever the team wishes to trade between themselves must be brought in game so risked... As it should be.

The game needs a gold sink, gear is the largest gold sink so anything that makes using expensive gear high risk will lead to a better game

[jaunty prawn]

mob loot being so worthless that it's just a waste of time to check them is true, increasing storm time would probably be good too. way too many times you're forced into pushing through hordes of enemies just to get into the circle with little time to do so

[scarlet gate]

I don't think more is necessarily a bad thing though. We just need more money sinks and a way to get more storage. The way that they've talked I'm expecting stash expansion with patch 2.

[silk moat]

❤️

[modest wren]

And for what do you farm gold if you remove player trading? if you cant use it? if i buy a full trader gear set ill be around 700 gold max you get like 300 per run right now

[cold talon]

I think the tournament coming up will prove this wrong. I think you will see teams of 3 able to get pretty insane gear and pub stomp with only having access to gear they find in game. It will be telling to watch

[scarlet gate]

Yeah especially when your solo there really isn't much you can do.
So increasing move time and mob hp would help with that. They could also change how ai reacts invisibility. So they actually walk back to their spawn room instead of standing where they were pre invisibility

[shadow raft]

feeling like being a dark and darker player is worse than a league of legends character, yall be toxic af hahahaha

[modest wren]

huh nothing toxic here

[jaunty prawn]

lmao dont mention that invis part man. it's gonna bring back another discussion, lot of people that dont play rogue still think you can drop aggro by using hide

[tall sorrel]

the tournament starts right after the wipe, so they wouldnt be running into groups as stacked as they would be mid to late season. What will be interesting is to see all the balance changes coming with the hotfix on the 26th.

[grizzled nimbus]

idk but do u think they should rework how states work?

[river steppe]

And thats okay .... If someone plays better they should reap the rewards. The porblem is people having so much money that they can die multiple times and keep rebuying the same gear. If you fucking die in bis gear you should be starting over in whites imo. At best you should be able to have 2-3 more sets in your stash if you were resourceful... But right now people make so much gold they can endlessly rebuy shit and never lose their gear even if they suck ass gameplay wise

[magic merlin]

anyone know when the us east server comes backu up

[cold talon]

I mean they got that gold somehow right? But that’s also how the game is played. You wear gear hoping it helps you make more money than the gear costs so that if you die u can get the same gear back or maybe better gear. If you buy the gear then die you are back to whites and rebuild. It’s happened to me countless times but i always rebuild

[shadow raft]

damn, just watching game discussion chat and general chat makes me hope the game dies, this community be AWFUL, devs just letting their players ruin their game HAHAHAHA

[scarlet gate]

Yeah why it didn't make mobs lose aggro is beyond me. At least you can sorta use it to move aggro to other players.

[river steppe]

Yes and rebuilding the gear by actually playing and finding the pieces or gambling with merchants is how it should be. Not by using some meta cheese start to min max gold and then sit in trade chat. Its fucking lame and everyone knows it ppl are just too used to it

[cold talon]

It’s just a difference of opinion then. If that the way they want to play the game then i don’t care, they can play it that way. I’ll play the game the way i want to play it and let others do the same

[river steppe]

yeah best would be self found mode, but imo it would cannibalize this version pretty fast

[cold talon]

Oh i 100% agree SSF would be an absolute blast to play. But, i don’t think it will have the “stop pub stomping” effect people think it will have. The people that want to do that will 100% still do it and it will be just as prevalent. It will just take 4 hours to get juicy instead of 2.

[sterile acorn]

anyone else feel like crypts is impossible to play cause theres always 2 fully geared teams running around

[river steppe]

Good players gona win more fights either way. Question is how much of the time are they going to be sitting in bis gear ? Right now its 100% of the time apart from 1 day after wipe

[shadow raft]

from what i see, players want rogue, ranger, buff ball barb, cleric, wizard and warlock nerfed hard, they want trade chat removed, they want punishments for cheaters and spammers and sellers, they want to bring best in slot gear and be overpowered and stomp on new players, new players want to be able to play the game, the community has become elitist and full of 14 year olds spamming git gud when they have never even played High Roller or fought a boss. Bought this game a month ago, and had a lot of fun for like a week, then all the fun encounters vanished, just sweaty annoying unfun games. No point to farm and get gear cause of the sweats and toxicity, just gonna get teamkilled if your teammates like your gear more than you.

[sacred basin]

whats a meta comp in 2v2 rn?

[slate pebble]

why is us east down 😦

[sterile acorn]

yes i would love for them to expand crafting and add self sound

[icy stratus]

me and buddy have alot of success as rogue/ranger, cleric/barb and wizard/rogue

[cold talon]

Crafting would be a VERY thin tightrope to walk though. If u think people min max now. Imagine targeted crafting

[junior pecan]

@river steppe @cold talon How about this: You can't bring in player traded items into pubs; only HR. Good change?

[wispy frigate]

• purples players make not natural teaming up on normal GC, it's clearly the end of fun...

[sacred basin]

thanks

[north crest]

you know what a mean. you just don't really try...

[sterile acorn]

dont care if people min max just make it harder to min max

[shadow raft]

Right? game is trying too hard to be overly competitive and now other regions are making real money on it, if the devs dont step in to at least make it not ruin the core gameplay it will hurt player population, and videos are already all over youtube about the C.Teaming in NA lobbies

[scarlet gate]

I feel like they've put too much importance on item modifiers. Modifiers should just be that they should be supplemental and not essential. In no world should a unique get out classed by a purple or even a blue. Of course I'm by no means saying to remove modifiers but I feel like items should get buffed so it's not essential to have the perfect rolls on all your items.

[reef kestrel]

Magic Staves hit hard yo

[river steppe]

I dont really get it why u guys like trading so much ... its staring at a chat window. You can still drop items in the party in game why is it not enough ?

[wispy frigate]

pity as for DEV it will be easy to avoid teaming up by saying that teaming up is nos allowed AT ALL (or be kicked temporary for first time then temp ban after) but I guess it's too hard to manage for them it will take too much time (I can consider it as they are a small team), but if you don't counter this problematic for sure these tryharders will do duo and roll on everybody.

[scenic pollen]

I think a way to look at it is data collection is simply that. They're just collecting data, not solving any of the real issues.

Hopefully though in the future through that data they may start improving the game into something we can play happily and laugh at the past

Also @wispy frigate banning teaming entirely would be incredibly stupid imo and basically impossible

[cold talon]

Trading will be there whether u like it or not. If it’s not on the game itself it will just move to a discord server or 3rd party website where people will just join ur party and trade

[shadow raft]

the modifiers shouldnt be the end all be all, cause it creates the current stat check pvp system. Who has bigger numbers will always win over skill in these games which is not good at all. Small team or not, they are getting competition, a direct copy and its free, and not as sweaty. Devs gotta step their game up regardless cause if the competition becomes better the hardcore fans will be stuck with only themselves with no timmys to stomp

[river steppe]

I know what you mean but with this game that would be completely fine since whatever you bring ingame you risk losing it

[tall sorrel]

the game was a lot healthier before they implemented the trade guild

[cold talon]

Then they will just go into normals with a mega stacked legendary guy acting like a bodyguard for the trade. They rat or buff him and he wipes the lobby. They will always find a way to circumvent a stop to trading

[scarlet gate]

Indeed. I think the issue currently is that their current priority is content rather than balancing. So I'm curious to see what happens after patch 2 cause they said that qol and balance would be the focus after that.

[wispy frigate]

why stupid ? a 1vs1 lobby is a 1vs1 thats it, if you want to team up just respect the different map that suits to this idea go ruins and thats it.

[opal mist]

Why are servers down?

[river steppe]

I love that, these are the types of emergent gameplay that will lead to funny as fuck situations and is also great content both for players and to veiwers

[junior pecan]

It's just way more efficient and less risky to trade than it is to load into a game and trust the guy just doesnt kill you on the spot. And I like the trade fee

[silk moat]

price check on enchanted dark fabric never seen it

[scenic pollen]

1 to remove teaming you would remove voip.

Removing teaming incredibly lessens player interaction

Teaming is lots of fun atleast in my experience and if it was against the rules I know I and many others would probably quit (hypocritical I know)

There's lots of other reasons but that's the simple biased way of looking at it

[cold talon]

Trade does need to be streamline but i think getting rid of it is not a good move

[wispy frigate]

I'm radically against public VOIP, its just toxicity and so on, VOIP for your own team is enough. Also VOIP stimulate the teaming up in GC that is not quite good. I will also cancel the "surrender emote" from the game to avoid teaming up. I mean teaming in this game from DEV appear to be like a woman who pretend to say no but technically will let you do what you want... it's just theorically forbidden but you even dont have a "report teaming up" available on report system X)

[silk moat]

VOIP IS HALF THE FUN of this game man can you not stand people trash talking

[junior pecan]

what lol

[scenic pollen]

Lmao side note yes there's toxicity, but there's also plenty of good moments as well.

Going off of most the stuff you said though I just think you struggle with talking to people, especially women. Lmao

[limber badge]

[wispy frigate]

again I'm for VOIP in your own team, not public VOIP, the good moment you spend is with your own team, if you use the public VOIP it's or to trashtalk or to teaming up so thats why it has to be a no way

[scenic pollen]

Damn you must have the most boring lobbies ever lmao

You know you can talk to people for fun right?

[wispy frigate]

I'm 100% GC player, I love this game in solo. And public VOIP in GC drastically STIMULATE teaming up.

[junior pecan]

why would you use VOIP for your own team and not just a private discord call.....VOIPing in Ruins/Crypts gives enemy players more an advantage

[scenic pollen]

Nothing wrong with that though lmao, I hate to be toxic but everything you've said just seems like you're refusing to be social and or lack the most basic verbal skills and ended up dying

Look dude I'm not particulary a extrovert either but even I don't come off that weird to the point where the thought of other people talking in voip bugs me.
|Lmao side note I failed at typing that so bad

[static pike]

US East server don't work?

[uncut rampart]

Was just going to say the same, US east is down

[jaunty prawn]

im bored of just going geared and looking for pvp, i already want the wipe to happen

[wispy frigate]

let's say you are in GC and I'm too, and then suddenly I become friendly with you, it automatically means that we are not to fight together so the next player who will come and will hit you will attract our mutual power to kick is 4ss. So this VOIP tend to NATURALLY turn people to want to team up. It's not because I'm against public VOIP in GC that I'm an introvert X), I just want the basic rule of this inner concept in game to be followed, I mean an optimization at least 🙂

[scenic pollen]

I mean there's no inner rule saying you have to have a gentleman's duel. Plus the Dev's themselves encourage player interaction, I understand the frustration you feel to dying against a teamer but genuinely that's kinda life. Stuff doesn't always go how you want.

I see no reason that you should be asking to remove an entire community of people who simply enjoy hanging out with others and grouping up.

Think about it this way. You're a poor little adventurer that jus started out. You run into another poor dude in the caves, YOu don't want to fucking risk dying over nothing so you guys agree to group up and work together. So you go throughout the cave an find another man. This dude clearly has stuff on him though that you would love to have so the 2 of you attack him and use the power of friendship to win a fight you wouldn't have otherwise

[grim zinc]

I think buddy understood what you were saying the first time. The disagreement is over whether teaming is such a problem that it justifies removing all public voice chat. And I think buddy is saying that teaming can naturally happen, is fine when it happens (organically), and doesn't justify removing voice altogether.

[junior pecan]

I've honestly seen players crouch spam to team up just as often as VOIPing does. Should they also get rid of crouch spamming too?

[scenic pollen]

I wish I could post stuff here as if I could I'd show you exactly why voip is so amazing

[hasty carbon]

cant load in to US east grrrr

[smoky coyote]

whats meta perks for rouge

[gritty cove]

You probably haven;t had people backstab you till kingdom come. VOIP does not mean buddies, people fake it all the time, my back hurts from all the daggers

[candid cargo]

casters ruin the game

[kind granite]

It's fun eh? Try being on the receiving end it's extremely frustrating and ull also quit

[junior pecan]

i love killing teamers

[scenic pollen]

I have been on the recieving end a number of times, I have also died to a number of other things people hate. Bute guess what.

How I view it is that it's a extraction game. You're gonna die alot. There's no point getting frustrated over it. Just focus on having fun. Personally I still enjoy my time playing even if it's getting destroyed by 6 lobsters

Plus @junior pecan for example. Gets a giggle off of killing us when we fail miserably lmao. Teaming doesn't allow you to win every fight. Hell I don't even team for the advantage. I do it because it's fun and a joy to have the chaos of teaming

[outer sparrow]

Rouge channel

[vital jacinth]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1158550947480469544 LF1M 0 to hero

[kind granite]

Whenever I kill a set of filthy teamers I always t bag tho

[scenic pollen]

Lmao you're free to do so. But demanding anyone who dares to have fun through voip gets banned is excessive.

I'm not over here demanding all fighters who use halberds get banned or some shit like that. You just accept that other players will play differently than you

[grim zinc]

Simul queueing is a different type of teaming, to be clear. People who makes friends in GC tend to not be super geared, because capes don't tend to keep friends at their back for long. Lower geared people teaming against lobsters is honestly critical to GC at this point lol.

[kind granite]

Nothing worse than losing a 2v1 and the solo t bags u both after, what an embarrassment that would be, I'd prob quit if I was a teamer and that happened lol

[wispy frigate]

just keep in mind that to allow natural teaming able not natural teaming too as ITS IMPOSSIBLE to detect them. I mean you can not technically make difference between natural teaming and not (in GC). So this is the rhetorical problem of allowing teaming, by opposition you also allow not natural too. I know the radical perspective of not allowing teaming is not cool and I can appear retrograd but it will be the fatality.

[scenic pollen]

Lmao I think you just might be a little sensitive then.

To get a little toxic remark in myself, it does fit that someone who complains about teaming would be that sensitive that they can't separate reality and a game.

Also @wispy frigate pre determined teaming is actually pretty easy to detect given the right circumstances lmao. It's not anywhere close to impossible.

[grim zinc]

Nah there are a few ways to tell simuls apart from natural teams. I'm not sure what IM uses to perma ban simuls, but there are definitely ways to detect it.

Lol I'm not a @scenic pollen sock puppet account, I swear.

[wispy frigate]

ok how you can determine pre teaming so ? Please tell me, if we can so why when we click on "report" we can only choose "report unapproriate nickname" and "cheater" ?

[scenic pollen]

Or are we?

lmao.

Also quite easily @wispy frigate .
Players getting into the same game multiple of times investigated.
Reports with genuine proof
I'm stupid but I'm sure IM has better ways lol

[static pike]

wtf is going on with Us Server?!

[surreal maple]

is there a solution for the people that can't login on the launcher and the site ?

[kind granite]

I mean teaming is currently allowed, just don't let me destroy both of ya in 1v2 or that would be extremely pathetic on ur end lol, u would wanna Uninstall

[grim zinc]

Multiple games together, exact time matchmaking began for each, how quickly they beelined each other in game, their voice communications (if any) in game, how they acted when escape portals started appearing, etc.

[golden condor]

when is the next wipe ?

[junior pecan]

Because from the players perspective, you wouldnt be able to tell if they were simuls, in match. DEVs can actually tell though. That's why there isn't an option for that

[scenic pollen]

Lmao do you uninstall after dying?

[wispy frigate]

ok how do you know they use this "multiple game together" system ?

[grim zinc]

He's kinda writing hate fan fiction. Probably best to just let him vent

[kind granite]

If I was a teamer in gobs and lost a 2v1 yeah, luckily I don't team, don't need to, I'm independent

[scenic pollen]

Lmao saddest part is @grim zinc I can't even tell if he's joking. I think he needs that confidence boost if not though.

[wispy frigate]

ok how do you know they use this "multiple game together" system ?

[kind granite]

I save the teaming for ruins or cypts, dunno why u feel the need to team in goblin @scenic pollen Maybe skill issue? Need allies to cover ur skill gap I geuss? Kinda sad but I geuss it's part of the game as long as it's natural

[grim zinc]

I don't. For obvious reasons IM doesn't share the criteria they use to perma ban simul queuers.

[junior pecan]

They have access to seeing information like this. It's their game lol

[scenic pollen]

Lol thanks for the giggle man

[eager oracle]

does anyone else not move at all or walk into the corner in lobbies? The sweats that run around inspecting and jumping in your face can be really annoying so i like to pretend I'm not even at the PC

[grim zinc]

I mean being teamed against can suck ass. I mostly GC as rogue. No one's teaming with me lol. I get that it can truly blow to be winning a 1v1 and have it turn because the barb has a pocket cleric. But goddam it's just a game. They found a way to increase both their chances of extracting.

[wispy frigate]

Even if I dont agree with @scenic pollen I wont use the "skill issue" card towards him, it's just... I mean I can do an analogy with sport, two boxers, two football teams dont ask for other players to come to have the number superiority because it will literally turn the game/sportivity unfair... we have to respect a process, the rule. And to be teaming completly destroy this basic rule. I don't want to seduce by MIC or be seduced by someone else to reverse the original configuration of the game. More fight for less speech 😂

[fading root]

I just hope crypts is playable again soon

[formal moon]

They either need to create a big first floor like was promised with 30 ish players. Get talents out or more classes out

[fading root]

anything to retain players at this point. I dont think normal lobby tournaments are gonna be it tho. Crypts wouldnt even be so bad if the other 80% of the playerbase was still playing

[signal nymph]

A good way ive found to combat timmies teaming up is to just kill anyone you see. I died the other day on my decently geared cleric in GC to a warrior and rouge. I had seen the warrior very early in the game but decided not to kill him. Later towards the end I saw a caped rouge, so i chose to engage.. little known to me he had befriended the warrior I saw earlier in the game. They then proceeded to flame me in VOIP while W'ing me down.. I killed the rouge but wasnt able to finish of the warrior before he got me lol

[surreal maple]

can someone help me ?

[junior pecan]

try running the launcher as an administrator

[formal moon]

The game servers are trash rn. I die more often to stuttering or rubber banding dmg soaking up my supplies

[signal nymph]

Its a good thing we're having a tournament to take attention away from all the bad things in game 🙂

[formal moon]

Unless they have tournament servers. Tournament is just going to highlight the issues even more

[toxic sierra]

hr DUO?

[dense dock]

i think we should have high roller 2s!
3s highroller is just buffball or chinese rogue squad
1s is w/e but 2s! 2s is enhoyeable!!!!!!!

[fading root]

SDF's recent communications look hopeful at least. we are in pretty dark times right now. IF they dont do something about the gearlet meta soon idk what im gonna do

[rich pike]

I feel like i'm just gonna wait the wipe and see what the devs may have cooked up because it's been an absolute slog the last few sessions, just playing a bit casually and normals are literally filled with full geared cloaked purps running t he lobbies.

Beside fucking around i often find myself just hiding away and trying to escape with some scraps or just getting one/two tapped everywhere

[silk gust]

Why is gold available only in normal ruins? Am I crazy or should gold ore be a HR only ore to incentivize people to actually play HR

[foggy osprey]

imagine joining parties thinking you're the best and that everyone should listen to how you play and what you think. people like this are ruining the game, stop trying to play characters other than your own. thoughts?

[signal nymph]

Yeah thats what I keep seeing people say but the main issues with game are constantly spammed in this discord or streamers chats daily.. not sure how they're missing the info. Tournaments are not meant to highlight game problems.. but i can see where it could help showcase them..

[formal moon]

Hr should only be crypts

[fiery girder]

I will not play during tournament days. There's no point, lobbies will be filled with unique sweats trying to show up on the livestream for killing the competitors

[pearl onyx]

this is probably the most sound incentive to hr ive seen. the other arguments about making hr more profitable would, at the end of the day, do nothing but create greater gear disparities which everyone is so eager to complain about.

[fading root]

This, and theres way too much money to be made in normals to begin with.

[narrow idol]

Game feels stale af

[formal moon]

Yes, however IM does not think through updates. Gold should either be Hr only or every map.

Items like demons glee aren't really worth crafting and the add magic dmg on it is a complete joke

[fiery girder]

I think it's less of a stale issue but more a tweaking issue. Once matchmaking is balanced (as close as you can get to it) the game will benefit a lot. More people running Inferno and getting out

[fading root]

both tbh, we need quests badly

[formal moon]

Tbh, I doubt that. I think they need to add another map and not worry about balance rn.

Just quick nerf buff ball by making all buffs last 50% on other players and you can only have 1 buff from each class at a time

[tawny storm]

Has anyone figured out the right timing for selling jewelry to the collector?

[fading root]

lets nerf wizard because barb is overperforming again

[fiery girder]

Idk if another map would do much. If it came with a good incentive to not pub stomp in Normal Crypts, then yeah I could see that. But if not, it would just be another HR that no one uses

[glad horizon]

Hi its day 2, I started a ticket, but you aint calling. IM my game has crashed, why you stalling? PLEASE PICK UP

[outer sparrow]

How about we merf barb the actual problem instead?

[limber verge]

barb is mediocre without support classes, they're going to have to change how these buffs work

[orchid quartz]

Don't you mean Bard?

[fading root]

this is why you're not on the elite ironmace balance team, you hear what that guy above said? Barb is weak by himself, even though this is a team game and they aren't gonna balance around solos!

[outer sparrow]

Yeah, When i say Nerf barb im not talking abt actual dmg but how he recieves buffs

[carmine field]

If you buy gear off other players, you're not technically independant. Flies away

[orchid quartz]

funny thing is in GC HR 7 out of 10 top killer outlaws are Barbs

[fading root]

2Handers need a fundamental rework, i'll give them that. they're still pretty dookie. you just get kited forever. But barb is crazy strong still + they already nerfed the shit out of hase/invis to the point they're functioning pretty poorly for their original uses now. While still being OP in buffball tbqh.

[brisk mason]

Haste invis nerf barely did anything. Still amazing for wiz and still extremely broken in buff ball. And barb isnt broken, cleric wiz are

[gray delta]

Let's remove wizard cleric and barb from the game then

[fading root]

Mmmklol

[brisk mason]

Im down. Would need some wpn dmg nerfs then though

[gray delta]

Or just keep them but only for weapons and jewels as it should be. Why giving weapon dmg on a chestplate? lel

[brisk mason]

Yeah. I think they just need to make the cap for it differ on gear rarity.
For example 1 wpn dmg max for greenw, 1/2 for blues 2/2 for purp 2/3for leg and thats max. Something like that and maybe remove getting +3 dmg +3 add on the same piece or something

[limber verge]

because barbs do well in close tight environments and in 1 on 1s. Goblin caves doesnt reflect how things work in crypts. A barb in a three man team not composed of support classes does subpar

[spare elbow]

To add to this, this game has a small enough playerbase that HR leaderboards more reflect the top players class preference than the best class in general.

[eager oracle]

i really want to be able to work on sets of gear through other characters.

Thoughts on $5 monthly for double the stash space?

Or in path of exile they have item-organized stash tabs where you can store lots of consumables

[edgy karma]

So are devs gonna do something about streamers not all but some just getting free kits cz honestly thats just cheating.

[brisk mason]

Just add more stash space period. No reason to lock basic content behind a pay wall. Litterally fill up my stash in a day and spend more time clearing space then playing

[orchid quartz]

you do know that you don't have to fully commit to long range fights right? cause of the way zone works in the game most fights end up in a close quarter combat? and even in crypts they also hold 5 of 10 spots with the lowest having 3.7 kdr and I love this whole "if they're not getting supported they bad" argument a better question is why are they the center piece of a buff ball? why not fighter? why not rogue? why not BoC warlock? it's cause they have the best stats and perks in the game

[eager oracle]

yeah Id just like to see something where people commit a small amount yearly to the game so it doesnt die from server costs

[limber verge]

Fighter does well in buffball, can you not come across as so hostile? Fighter was the meta in buffball until some fighter changes recently.

[compact ivy]

Its been said that its not against the rules. If fanbois want to donate their stuff, they are allowed to. It doesnt really affect you in any way.

[limber verge]

there are way too many naked chinese rogues in high roller, even on US east, kinda unreal

[edgy karma]

It kinda does cz they dont have to pay for anything and are fully purple in a lobby where others have to grind for gold

[inner elbow]

whats a case i could use physical healing?

[compact ivy]

Yeah, that 5-10 streamers who get some gear donated to them do not affect you in any way. Its not like you are queing up against streamers, everytime, constantly. So no, it doesnt affect you.

[limber verge]

I bet you've died to streamer once, if ever.

[narrow sigil]

How do yall feel about basically starting today and being able to get a full legendary/unique inventory in a day or two days?

[glad horizon]

@glad thunder Sent a ticket, fix the crash of your game, ever since yesterday game loads fine, then complete audio freeze, black screen and have to cycle my pc off. No other game does this, I have reinstalled game/drivers/and even tried all video optimizations. It is just this game, I can play all other games fine.

[analog spire]

shit design. i honestly believe that without a massive stat squish, all gear better than greens need to be deleted

[compact ivy]

....thats the game for experienced players basically. Kek

[edgy karma]

Its about being fair why ban cheater then they hardly are in your game

[orchid quartz]

yes a fighter can do well but at the end of the day Barb is still the main centerpiece of the buff ball even after the nerfs to their support and the reason is that they can easily 2 tap other classes even heavily armored fighters cause not only do they do massive amount of damage with felling axes it also has a fast attack animation

[compact ivy]

Dude, you joined the discord like, 1,5 weeks ago, probably quite new to the game. Focus on improving your gameplay rather than moaning about streamers getting items traded. If you managed to extract more than you currently do (quite safe to assume), you would have zero problems with this.

[narrow sigil]

yeah its absurd i mean so they just gonna wipe every singular month or every three weeks then?🤣 even without the gear buff i was full with legendarys and uniques within a day or two lmaooo

[limber verge]

Not even close to the same thing. Cheaters get banned. The game isnt about being fair in other regards.

[compact ivy]

Nah, they just gotta keep working on the game, its so barebones currently, am sure lvl 20 will not be the highest level aswell. Right now we are probably reaching the current endgame in the matter of days, a few months from now imo there will be more to do.

[edgy karma]

Oh sorry i didn't know u had to join discord to be able to play the game my bad

[compact ivy]

I didnt say you have to, just sayin that most of the people from early playtests were on discord. They are the more experienced ones who dont really have problems with stuff like extracting, having gear, having multiple kits (or streamers getting items donated). If I werent right, you would be complaining about not having enough stash space for your gear

[fallen snow]

whats the point of playing when there are just full blue and purple players with full stack of healing farming everyone? bad design

[compact ivy]

Lack of endgame + wipe coming close, so people just use all their saved gear. Similar to what happens in Tarkov before a wipe.

[thin eagle]

They need to buff rangers so bad imo

[limber verge]

bad design? Players doing what they do in every other game is bad design? Maybe you need to take a sociology class or something

[compact ivy]

Yeah, definitely needin some kind of nuclear weapon, agree

[spare elbow]

Frag arrows would be nice

[fallen snow]

If players do it every time then it should be already planned ahead, there is no point playing now,.

[edgy karma]

Firstly ive been there since the 2nd playtest but dont have as much free time as you to reply everyone on discord secondly everyone should have to grind the same way for gear and not just be handed it to them as simple as thay