game-discussion

[peak agate]

just lost kit cuza this (not reply sorry)

[ebon palm]

name checks out

[peak crypt]

I wont argue with that rn. The dagger nerfs are crazy

[plain marsh]

the cheaters were quashed but they left an impact on the game

the final updates were 100% geared towards the casual players. because every other update before then pretty much boned them. and while the updates were intended to help casual players, they did nothing to stop the no-life sweat lords just wiping the starter map.

[main garden]

I think no matter what the devs do, many people will be upset with balance

[tawdry inlet]

Okay, how the fck do you get out of the bottom left room in goblin caves once you go downstairs? Who thought hat room was a good addition.

[formal moon]

IM has no clue when it comes to developing rogue.

[worthy nexus]

yo i just played a whole match get some loot and get out. go to stash and my char is empty. anyone else getting this?

[indigo cobalt]

yes this is how it works

[ebon gulch]

You missed the entire point of my original post then, cause I’m not comparing the games in the slightest. What I said was Star citizen has had people saying the game was gonna die soon for almost a a decade lol. Doom posters always exist and 99.9% of the time they are wrong about it lol

[subtle heart]

No sometimes you lose gear too. Bows and arrows specifically. But also all the gear u looted during match which sucks.
@vale bough that must have been the game we went to hell haha we killed like 3 teams and wanted to try boss but noooope

[tulip ridge]

did you go to hell?

[silk dove]

I thought this was going to be a wipe update?

[icy pond]

the rooms appear in different places now, nobody can tell what room were you in just by its map position. It's probably a room that used to be HR exclusive.

[limber badge]

Honestly had daggers stayed the same he would be way more viable
Now I just pickpocket rogue since they change him to not go out of invis when bumped while doing so lol

[regal veldt]

But star citizen is alive because it’s not the same genre as this game. The balance and updates matter much more in an extraction pvp game with a battle royale storm than star citizen do you understand

[bitter grail]

Skill issue chat room

[tired grail]

I just died, but I didn't lose anything that I was wearing or my weapon?... Is that a bug or new thing in the game

[warped belfry]

but in your example, they were right

[tawdry inlet]

Okay, the room with 100 floor spikes and no way to get out of once you go downstairs through a metal gate, lured by two chests in the middle.
Who the heck added it, how do you get out? I searched every damn inch of that room

[rugged lagoon]

all discord lobbies are filled, we need more

[main garden]

There’s a lever on the ramp ^

[icy pond]

so you drop down and are looking at two chests. right past those is a ramp that's only 80% complete. theres a lever ON that ramp that has the ceiling open up and finish your ramp up. you got trolled its a good room theres like 5 big chests and lots of skeletons to loot

[ebon gulch]

@regal veldt different games doesn’t take away from my only point, doomers are always wrong lol

@warped belfry last time I checked SC is still in development and releasing new content

[spare swan]

somehow they made curse of pain hitbox even worse than it already was and called it an improvement

[exotic yoke]

Has anyone gotten stinky stick yet

[plain marsh]

that is just straight up not true

[tawdry inlet]

Killed all the skellies, looted all chests. Ran every inch with a torch and couldnt find that lever, I must have been on that ramp 5 times before the zone killed me. Heckin heck

[snow magnet]

guys how do you do the lockpick?
i cant react fast enough for it

[regal veldt]

But saying don’t be a doomer in the game discussion chat is just silly

[inner glen]

damn just extracted and didn't get to keep any of it 😦

[sonic apex]

well it kindof is, it's too big to fit thru small spaces now, but it's easier to hit in open air, so they lowered the skill ceiling on it, but removed some utility

[dapper iron]

Same

[near relic]

WHERE THE HELL IS MY DAMN LOOT!?

[warped belfry]

I actually forgot that game even existed.

[dense nexus]

I just love the exacerbation of rogue needing to run from every pvp encounter it's very engaging gameplay esp vs rangers

[golden sail]

damn....

[eager plover]

GUYS

[spare swan]

i used to miss like 1/10 times lmao its literally unusable on my connection rn

[lone ether]

Every one complaining about not getting loot lol it’s a bug if it happens ten times make a report if it happens once make a report and just continue ;p

[charred oasis]

how am i supossed to dodge bolaslinger??? if i move right, the mtf still hit me

[delicate solar]

Why believe a person who's hobby is dooming constantly and who didn't provide any proof whatsoever apart from "it's true"?

[hazy jolt]

Yeah, had the same thing.
How to get the devs aware of this if they arent already?

[modest canyon]

What is this dupe glitch

[amber hedge]

Is there a treasure room on ruins after you kill golem boss or nah?

[ebon gulch]

Doomers are silly, it’s just bad faith lol

[bold lintel]

TBF he was saying it to a guy who doesnt even play anymore and still crying about the current state of the game. should kinda have a bit of perspective if you are going to pronounce something dead @modest canyon you really wanna get banned that bad for a few gold?

[edgy swift]

nice second time my shit didnt save. FIX UR FUCKING GAME. MY EXTRACTS ARENT SAVING

[prisma fjord]

Does chain lightning do more damage if you target the head?

[warped belfry]

ive been around long enough to see the signs

[shy grotto]

Best duo comp?

[plain marsh]

did you go to hell?

[serene mica]

cleric lock

[golden sail]

just got kicked out of the game as i was going into the deeper zone... lost everything

[wooden locust]

I’m not home did they make the stash bigger

[stiff timber]

anyone else go into a match extract go to sell the items they got and there invin is empty?

[main garden]

PSA DONT GO TO HELL IT IS BUGGED

[near relic]

i literally just got fulgur from HR lich and didn't even get it! MAN WHAT THE HELL! WHERE IS MY FULGOR!?!?! LOST TO THE VOID?!

[cold reef]

In Goblin caves the circle closes too quickly and good luck if you spawn outside of it. I truly wish that the first circle was the whole map and worked inward from there.

[wary compass]

SERVERS ? you ok

[bold lintel]

i literally just got fulgur, viola, pestilence AND STINKY STICK from HR lich and didn't even get it! MAN WHAT THE HELL! WHERE IS MY FULGOR!?!?! LOST TO THE VOID?!

[amber hedge]

Is there a loot room after golem boss or nah?

[warped belfry]

kind of, they added bigger gold containers. its a good start

[ebon gulch]

Your looking at the wrong signs dude. Would recommend stepping away from the development if you aren’t gonna ride out the growing pains

[proud coral]

Anyone else having red portals kick them back to menu and delete their stuff?

[unborn kelp]

7 people gc is too low and there's too many portals makes pve most rounds

[stiff timber]

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/1vYTnU-BWVhnNw/d1337uJ04LhI?invite=cr-MSxtOHIsMTk2MTUzNjYxLA

[storm furnace]

Does anyone have a list of all the items and the mats required to craft minus cobalt n rubysilver

[wooden locust]

I was hoping they made the stash itself bigger cause I imagine with crafting and collecting items it going to be a pain

[young gyro]

Certain rooms are especially bad, but most don't have enough PVE that it's an issue. The spider room is awful.

[edgy swift]

nah ur trolling

[simple whale]

I'm quitting until you can actually play against rangers, this hit and run meta is cringe as fuck. Thank you devs for not nerfing this disgustung class for weeks and ruining everyone's fun who isn't playing ranger.

[main garden]

PSA DONT GO TO HELL ITS BUGGED

[spare swan]

the new rooms on both crypts and gc are worse than the starting rooms in hell lmao

[frail widget]

It’s still better to go for 2v3s in the crypts than to fight duo rangers in ruins that map blows for game balance

[charred oasis]

spider bugged me again on the wall, lost everything NICE

[spare swan]

and its not the mob placement its literally the ring/map layout so a whiff of gear will make the game even more of a faceroll

[raven rock]

fun game leaving dungeon and like nothing happened not a single item in inventory

[small blaze]

my sht is gone

[terse dust]

anyone else had dissapearing loot after a goblin caves run? i just finished one and lost about 140g worth of random items, not a huge deal but its never happened before.

[idle snow]

in what way?

[versed cloud]

"lost" gold using 150G Luck potion, only gave 50 Luck, balanced?

[jagged badger]

Can y'all please read like 5 messages in the discord before you post so that we're not getting 100's of the same bug complaint?

[vivid vine]

Just did one and lost a full inventory of cobalt and rubysilver ore

[rich wadi]

How do we feel about gear insurance?

[trim glen]

Hell no

[dusky sage]

kicked from inferno loading screen again unlucky

[marble tangle]

Game is rolling back. Everyone saying "I'm losing loot", that's why. It keeps rolling back your character from before that match.

[spare swan]

they just copy pasted highroller rooms and called it a day

[gritty breach]

^

[cold reef]

Straight fact.

[young gyro]

Pretty sure those rooms are from HR versions aren't they?

[dawn mica]

kill 2 guys countering troll and then counter him my self = empty inv

[violet gate]

warlock is bugged? curse mastery makes curse of pain do no initial damage and makes power of sacrifice do no damage

[shadow widget]

Maybe if this piece of sнit keeps rolling back far enough I will be able to play my fav class again

[strange nova]

red portal bugged cant join lost all loot

[steady robin]

FUCK THAT ROOM

[novel plover]

Rangers still op?

[dull island]

Anyone here know how to skip attack animations for duel wielding? i.e. attacking with primary for 2 attacks, attacking with secondary with its 3rd attack

[cosmic lava]

yep

[stiff timber]

always

[warped belfry]

never were

[terse dust]

as far as im aware, you cant unfortunately

[tawdry yoke]

I died the first few times in spider room, now I go out, bash a vase, and run back to my spawn and deal with all the bugs funneling in

[rigid raft]

Rogue unplayable- just went out of invis on ranger and died to him :)))) I lose both long and short range

[drifting hinge]

Shops are great, now you see many more running around with armor instead of naked

[main garden]

Working as intended, Rouge isn’t really meant to assassinate targets anymore

[grave urchin]

I have a real question here. I don't play ranger (i think it looks boring) but is it really THAT EASY to land shots with the bow or are this many of theam cheating ??

[dense nexus]

Rogue isn't meant to do anything anymore

[iron void]

taking red portals down into an infinite loading screen resulting in ending up in the lobby with no loot that i acquired from said dungeon 😦

[jagged badger]

I'm honestly dogshit at landing arrows, but I think it's pretty easy for most people from what I've read

[novel plover]

Ahhahaha

[warped belfry]

so is it red portals that are doing it?

[formal moon]

Rogue, the assassin class. Is now no longer an assassin, but a literal rat

[terse dust]

then what is its use case? thats litterally what rouges are for. seems really short sighted to make them functionally useless.

[young gyro]

harrass, kite, speed stealth, pickpocket.

[main garden]

Yes, if you right as rouge you need incredible gear to stand a chance (the type of gear that doesn’t exist in this patch) so rouge imo is a dead class for PvP but great for PvE

[lyric plinth]

What about solo rogue then?

[grave urchin]

I am seeing them landing long range shots on juking moving targets like it's nothing, compared to something like rust it seems just aimbot like. Stupid easy or a ton of them are hacking which is likely also.

[dense nexus]

Solo rogue just runs away from everyone. That's your game experience

[formal moon]

Great for pve lol. Shortest weakest melee weapons and the smallest hp pool.

[novel plover]

Idk it doesn’t take that much skill if you master it if its the only thing you main

[terse dust]

thats awsome and super useful in team play and seeing as this game is supposed to be balanced around 3 mans i fully get it now. in fact, nerf rouge again, their still to slippery.

[patent temple]

anyone find gold ore yet?

[jagged badger]

If any class is going to be nerfed into the ground, I'm kinda glad it's Rogue. Invisibility, followed by multiple DoT effects and armor piercing resulting in 3-4 hitting someone that couldn't feasibly even know you're there is lame

[main garden]

The agility allows you to effectively bait and juke all mobs in the game with a rapier, you can even 1v1 ghost king in Hell, it is good for PvE, if you run into a mob you can’t kill as rouge without taking damage it’s a skill issue trust me

[pulsar pebble]

hydra summon is pretty disgusting lol

[dense nexus]

Cool how do you kite with dog crap movement speed smdh. Dagger has the same movement penalty AS A SHORT SWORD

[rough cobalt]

Is goblin cave portal spawn to high? feels a bit pve game

[inner bluff]

Did the game wipe?

[drifting hinge]

Its perfect if you ask me

[novel plover]

I am so happy that the rogue class is gutted its not healthy but still what a wonderful day

[fluid trench]

what drops spider silk?

[limber badge]

Have you not played recently?

[digital anchor]

just went into a red portal to for us to be kicked out and lose are loot

[unkempt arch]

same

[limpid merlin]

hearing the bats chirping anywhere on the map is driving me nuts

[hollow snow]

same

[loud creek]

im not gonna lie

the game feels healthier overall with rogue stealth and ambush being nerfed

[main garden]

Haven’t seen in a rouge in 5 hours lmao, great balance patches 😃

[spare swan]

rogue in BiS still two shots faster than most gear builds can swing

[pulsar pebble]

theres a bug when one team goes red, and the floor ends, a bunch of people get rolled back. it'll get fixed soon, everyone knows about it, devs are probably just getitng in a few hours of sleep after their 2 day stretch lol

[misty sigil]

bard now is useless?

[dense nexus]

Not for rogues who have a useless class now

[jagged badger]

If you're referring to the hide timer nerf and reduced dagger damage, I was okay with those changes. And I occasionally play rogue

[drifting hinge]

The new maps are great, portals are good, now you dont have a ranger sitting camping last portal getting all the kills

[violet gate]

warlock power of sacrifice doesnt do damage but still grants 15 STR o.o

[young gyro]

With the game moving towards a longer and slower combat pace, in theory rogue will have a place as the class barb/cleric/fighter have few or no ways of killing. I admit until ranger is nerfed doesn't really matter.

[dull island]

oh, did they fix it?

[echo perch]

Good. 1 useless class is always better than 1 insanely overtuned class.

[stoic nexus]

i just extracted and all my loot disappeared except the gear im wearing wtf

[edgy swift]

happening to all us rn

[novel plover]

Im so happy

[frail spire]

good rogues will top leaderboards, while bad rogues continue to say that they are a useless class

[frank fossil]

why is the aoe circle for divine strike and shit invisible what did i do

[azure siren]

That guy that wanted grey longswords, I have a bunch if he has coin

[faint cypress]

goblin caves has so many portals

[upper panther]

What weapon are fighters running now? I used to use spear all the time and started to migrate over to arming sword but since it seems like shields and spears got nerfed im thinking of switching to halberds... any thoughts?

[inner bluff]

Did the game wipe can someone answer pls

[steady valve]

Ranger made me ragequit last night lol. Took like 4 or 5 hours to get the game to update/work, first game get instantly pinned between zone and a bard with a crossbow and 2 rangers lol. I just logged off and went to sleep

[lethal trout]

devs tend to overcorrect things

[serene mica]

wiped everything but character levels

[quaint marten]

15 wep damage on a green stiletto lol is that a joke?

[jagged badger]

I think halberds kick ass

[viral fable]

too much ai or ai has too much health. needs to change.

[mild hull]

any visuals/effects for the new artifacts ?

[dull island]

my shop has a 16 damage blue stiletto right next to a 15 damage white

[plain otter]

So uhh, looks like theres a bug where you can sometimes extract from a raid and be reset to your pre-raid inventory - just lost a few nice pieces of gear and a bag full of collectibles to this - thats shitty

[limber badge]

I'd be amazed if this is true. I suspect warlock and barb to be leaderboard toppers, especially in solos.

[stoic nexus]

i just killed a fighter for a blue maul as a cleric and it was STOLEN BY THE DEVS FROM ME 200G PLEASE DEVS TY

[stark fog]

Dont tell them the number 1 leaderboard guy was a rogue

[misty sigil]

bard is bad rn?

[compact mantle]

Ngl double axe Barbarian going hard for me. 900g already and on like, 9 run streak. Loving this thing.

[steady valve]

The new named stiletto has 20 dmg max LMFAO

[novel plover]

Wait wiat wait what is this glitch is it even worth playing atm?

[spare swan]

lol none of these people watched repoze run around with more movespeed than anyone, double jump perk, while two shotting lobsters in BiS after the nerf

[limber badge]

With all pre nerf equipment including +3's and buffs, yeah.

[frosty canopy]

why cant we extract with stuff in our inventory rn

[hasty sorrel]

why the fuck did they take ALL phys dmg rolls off armor but leave magic dmg rolls in? wizard base spells already hit insanely hard, why do they need to scale better than phys? is that a joke?

[tawdry quest]

happened to me like 4 times 😄

[frank fossil]

Can SOMEONE fucking tell me what's making all my AOE markers invisible? Literally every video I see has a weird looking white circle on the ground that follows your crosshair whenever you cast an AOE spell but for some reason mine are just... GONE!!! HOW THE FUCK DO I GET THEM BACK

[frank crown]

just extracted without my loot, poggers

[snow magnet]

is it me or crypts are much harder now?

[trim ravine]

rangers still op

[viscid hamlet]

Iron mace are you seriously? Weakest ranger nerf. Barely make tear. No good

[smoky coyote]

can they just wipe the fucking game shit is getting so boring everyone is so geared\

[brisk imp]

How do I join the class channels?

[limber badge]

They...wiped yesterday lol

[serene mica]

they did 12 hours ago. LOL

[hallow falcon]

What is happening? 5 game in the row after exit wipe to start..

[terse dust]

They already did, you can just buy good gear now

[warped orchid]

NEW AREAS IN GOBBO CAVE HAVE SO MUCH SPIFERS 😨😱

[steady valve]

LULW

[frank delta]

Does Power of Sacrifice nolonger stack with Curse of Pain? Healing wise

[orchid root]

It definitely does

[quaint marten]

why tf would they do that?

[jagged badger]

Rogue and ranger detract from everyone else's experience. I feel like Ironmace could balance things by including a maximum gear slot limitation like Hunt Showdown has.

Like, if a fighter wants to run a crossbow, okay well that takes up a medium weapon slot. Now he can only take a medium sword with him. Or he can take a shield with his sword, instead of the crossbow. Or he can take a halberd instead of both of the single hand weapons.

Same with ranger. If he takes a spear, he can only take a survival bow with him.

[subtle heart]

Idk how I see people in gear me and my team are getting reset sometimes even when we don't go to hell

[surreal escarp]

I just got out of a raid and i didnt get out with the stuff i found in the raid?

[vital kayak]

Is soul collector still broken for warlock?

[limber badge]

How are people STILL complaining about rogue he is so bad right now it's an actual loot pinata anytime I see one

[umbral cradle]

is there a way to read a tooltip on your current buffs and debuffs?

[hallow flicker]

Same. Seems to be somewhat common

[warped orchid]

It does, unless you have curse mastery perk on, which is currently bugged and makes it not work.

[steady valve]

They heard people calling the game “rogue and ranger” and they didn’t like that. So they nerfed everything about rogue until we could officially call it “Range and Ranger”

[calm lava]

is it still wiping?

[copper star]

How’s the game been since update? So it didn’t wipe?

[frank delta]

Lol...curse mastery bugs it? Lovely....

[peak crypt]

Inventories were wiped.

[novel plover]

wait wait wait why am i seeing purple items in normal merchants?

[past panther]

theyre gona need to nerf merchants and wipe again. The amount of gear you get just through merchants is ridicolous

[frank crown]

im glad i mined 11 ores just to get rolled back

[slow sinew]

Has anyone here gotten Dnd to work on linux?

[subtle heart]

Pretty unstable, but otherwise some interesting changes and Warlocks seem pretty strong now too I just got two tapped by a magic staff guy on a white kit fighter

[weak umbra]

revert the patch and wipe tommoros

[sweet jay]

lol

[proper siren]

i jus want noob lobbies playing w sweats make me sad not v fun game everyone try to hard make cry

[spare swan]

god forbid the same result should require one extra player to accomplish

[warped orchid]

Yep. Currently, curse mastery takes away the initial 10 damage on hit of Curse of Pain and prevents Power of Sacrifice from adding to the heal per tick

[vestal silo]

this patch seems really healthy atm

[limber badge]

Lol

[sudden aspen]

with or without curse mastery, sacrafice doesn't heal anymore, neither does anything other than CoP

[desert yarrow]

are people still the same level as they were before the wipe?

[copper star]

Hopefully things get worked out. I wasn’t able to play and not sure if I can today also. Ohh Geeze they got stronger lol I’ve been 2 pieces before the patch by them also 😂 guess it’s time to try a warlock.

[drifting hinge]

You remembered the perk too right?:)

[brazen vigil]

they wiped stashes not levels

[ionic wave]

is going red bugged? (everytime i go we get kicked out)

[viral fable]

too much ai or ai has too much health. needs to change

[proven mortar]

Does anyone on the dev team play barbarian? Because this class is in purgatory

[clear sun]

This patch is the first time I feel like nearly all the classes have a balanced feel new barbarian are range was really needed

[frank delta]

I've been feeling that I am pressured heavily now to make circle and mobs just either are too many or something, barely have any time to grab loot

[cinder abyss]

the whole game is in purgatory, cant wait for the other 2 games like this to release. this is worse than tarkov

[vestal silo]

they should give them round shield

[novel plover]

wtf are these goofy ahh sound effects ui n shi a knocking sound when i get an invite what is this xD??????!?!?!?!?

[warped orchid]

Well Imma check again but without curse mastery I thought I was seeing heal from curse of pain tick twice if I stacked it with power of sacrifice

[keen jolt]

were you also running vampirism?

[patent temple]

anyone find gold ore yet?

[past panther]

in the ruins worm room

[frank crown]

i found shungite ore

[spare swan]

im sure it will be impossible to achieve such a thing with 10k followers

[terse stratus]

Yo wtf

[spice moat]

Ruins in the module with zombies in water

[bright garnet]

red portals are bugged guys dont go

[limber badge]

What does that have to do with rogue being nerfed into the dirt?

[warped orchid]

Nope

[tepid anvil]

does warlock curse of pain healing only proc off itself now or is it just bugged?

[outer dawn]

whats the most op class right now, how are warlocks doing with 8 new spells?

[proven mortar]

Warlock and fighter are pretty good atm

[gilded minnow]

bro i was in a raid had taken a blue port and watched ppl for a bit, it then kicked me out and i got NONE of the loot i extracted with, was reverted back to what i had when i entered and i lost my entry fee. what the hell dude

[livid onyx]

I think it was only intended to work for curse of pain.

[still apex]

ironmaaaaaace fix reds 😢

[novel plover]

AHAHA I JUST KILLED A WRAITH AND IT FELL THROUGH THE MAP

[spare swan]

omg now you need ignite to twoshot people before they swing the class is ruined

[terse stratus]

I just extracted and lost all my loot after extracting I’m back to what I had before the match I’m so sad I had 2 amazing blues from hell

[limber badge]

??
What lol

[fleet patrol]

all lobbies are now warlock and ranger, great patch

[cinder abyss]

and people are duping gear again. I dont even get the point of this wipe

[obtuse pumice]

this new goblincaves is so shit, everyone just camping the big room with ranged

[past panther]

Whenever someone takes a hell portal everyone else who was in the game at the time someone took the red gets reverted back to what they had before the lobby began.

[frank crown]

broooooooo

[pulsar galleon]

Fun and interactive bug

[jagged wolf]

fix cleric blind it should blind ppl not deal dmg

[versed moat]

love fighting trios in goblin caves :<

[warped belfry]

there wasnt any point. people are already rich

[main garden]

There’s another dupe glitch lmao? Just wipe again lol

[clear sun]

@warped belfry that's because getting good gear isn't hard it was mostly to take out old pre nerf gear and that's all

[peak crypt]

So what’s manual dexterity and persuasion?

[normal reef]

genuinely, you have less than half a chance of finding someone who isn't slow in here

[past panther]

Has nothing to do with duping. Even without duping i have a full stash of purple gear with good stats. Merchants usually have 2-4 purples that you can just buy this patch

[limber badge]

You randomly talked about 10k twitch followers and now are talking about ignite.
My point being Repoze did good because he had pre nerf gear and buffs.
I actually encourage you to try to perform well with Rogue and prove me wrong.

[proud umbra]

Any idea where gold ore can be found?

[mellow perch]

why they nerf bard 😦

[serene mica]

i see, good ol youtubers uploading old content and fooling folks into thinking its new. always gets a chuckle outa me

[cinder abyss]

But duping is a problem and destroys the in game economy which was the whole reason they half wiped the game?

[spare swan]

and my point is you can get the exact same result with post nerf gear and one wizard/warlock buffing you. god forbid you actually need two people to wipe the entire lobby without even trying

[warped belfry]

ahh yes. that needed to be done weeks ago.

[past panther]

Oh yeah its a problem for sure. I just meant this patch it simply doesnt matter. Economy is fucked by merchants already. Why would i spent 300g on a good stat blue item when i can get a good stat purple item for 150g

[limber badge]

So to make Rogue good...he needs buffs.
I don't see how this refutes my statement that Rogue is the worst class in the game currently.

[spring elk]

Does Curse of Pain stack? thanks

[keen jolt]

no

[hazy jolt]

Defs, please let us know you are aware of loot disappearing after extracts, and the game crashing on extracts leaving you with no loot. This happened multiple times now.
Or if I missed that the defs are aware, please let me know.

[jagged badger]

A couple weeks ago, I was a cleric rocking full blues in crypts. I hopped a bridge, turned right, heard 3 stabs, and i was dead. No counterplay to that. I'm glad they were nerfed

[proper prawn]

damn, the menu CliCK noises sure got annoying....

[raw bloom]

damn, the menu CliCK noises sure got annoying.... true

[steep raven]

Lol this new patched addressed so many issues with the game, updated so many things, and downright added some great content and people are still sitting in here bitching

[warped belfry]

they arent reading this....

[exotic rampart]

why every time i get out of the game my gear and stuff keeps disapaering??

[craggy raven]

this happened to me just now, submit a bug report

[potent pecan]

Is hell still rollbacks?

[lone ether]

havent tried new patch dl now i cant wait!

[vagrant dragon]

What did they do to bard now??? It doesnt matter if you select Music Memory 2 as a Skill now since you wont be able to use the slots.

[snow magnet]

man i went inferno and the game kicked us out during loading and we lost everything wtf?
also what is up with no blue portals in crypts?
we were in the middle of the zone, no contest, looking all around, there were just 2 blues.

[quiet elm]

@steep raven bro this patch is in completely wrong direction. Armor buffs? Clerics have 40% pdr in greys now? Is it a prank?

[sly bay]

why is the Bards music memory list not being followed? the last 2 spells I have in that list become available before the others do when adding knowledge gear to my character...

[sweet jay]

[violet gate]

new ttk seems alot better

[outer dawn]

wow they really disincentivized buying in the trades huh

[glacial forum]

anyone know why sometimes when i die i don't loss anything and i get all my shit back?

[frail widget]

Lol as a bard player that is so not true

[solid cypress]

Shhhhh

[strong cipher]

yall like the warlock changes?

[warped belfry]

what issues were addressed?

[icy pond]

dont have any gold to spend i give it all to the merchant now. at least i wont have 12k gold by the time i stop playing this patch.

[sleek dirge]

If you play ranger you get all your stuff back

[vagrant dragon]

Bard got crapped on even more now. Also increased slowmode in chat

[serene delta]

Hell is totally broken right now?

[craggy raven]

yeah be careful folks, my game didnt even crash i just lost all my loot after extracting

[exotic yoke]

yea i just got removed from the lobby

[carmine basin]

I have had that happen the last two games in a row

[somber cape]

More like made it less mandatory. You still have to trade if the shops aren't offering what has the rolls you're looking for.

[north crescent]

i had it 2 times can i report it somwhere? I have clip

[jagged badger]

The merchants were useless before. Now they have a purpose. A realistic fix would be to make purples craftable only.

[rigid tree]

What are the conditions for a goblin archer changing aggro? A goblin archer was targeting another dude I jumped and just randomly swapped aggro onto me

[glacial forum]

exactly that. semi-random

[shadow widget]

What exactly

This patch is completely sнit from start to finish, there is not a single thing good about it

[vestal silo]

somehow visored barbuta has less base armor than barbuta with no visor

[stuck wraith]

Yo wtf i had a full invin and escaped and everything i got is gone in the lobby.....

[warm rune]

cleric hit so hard

[warped belfry]

agreed

[wild socket]

don't leave to red portal -> your gear will be reset to the state before the match

[foggy palm]

anybody know what maps gold ore is on? cant seem to find any

[carmine basin]

I have lost gear twice, Once went to hell and lost gear and then i just blue portal and lost everything.

[static cipher]

it's the old high roller map idk why they swapped it xdd

[limber badge]

All I can think is they spent 18 hours getting this patch up and are now sleeping unaware that there's a major issue with extractions lol

[acoustic aspen]

lets lower the amount of high grade stuff in the shops, busted gear is already circulating

[outer dawn]

games trash, entire lobby is warlocks that are way too laughable

[stuck wraith]

It was blue - lost everything it was one of my best runs. This fucking game man

[sage vessel]

@dusty heraldsun people are duping via the server crashes, everytime the game crashes u get the same gear so if you die and spectate someone taking a red portal the game will crash meanwhile someone can get away with leaving with all of the pre spawned gear through a blue portal, hence you will dupe your whole inventory (I THINK YOU SHOULD DO AN EMERGENCY WIPE INSTANTLY)

[north crescent]

me too can someone expain?

[grave urchin]

the changes to warlock will be a huge problem, phantomize plus fire walking crap and hydra will cause broken situations

[formal flint]

Are mimic tounges used for anything?

[sly bay]

FOR THE LOVE OF DND give us MORE Stash tabs... now you want us to hold crafting materials lol @azure siren its been a year, my man game been out a year now...

[normal oak]

cant leave with gear unlucky

[warped belfry]

why are you telling everyone here how to duplicate duping? use the bug report and quit spamming admins

[silent basin]

also has happened to me twice, submitted to bug report. We'll see

[azure siren]

You know the stash does have a "tab" for potential to have more stash space, in due time I would imagine

[remote yarrow]

He didnt even Tag the Admin. Just someone named gray

[warped orchid]

Barb is still meta

[lunar scarab]

Holding shift + F should strangle otto

[serene mica]

how do you "know" people are duping? like have you discovered a dupe? or are you just seeing well geared players assuming they are all cheating because no 1 could ever be geared in 12 hours after a wipe?

[tired comet]

ROLLBACKS WTF

[shadow widget]

So devs will hopefully revert and fix this shitshow somehow

[frank crown]

copium

[warped belfry]

ya i noticed right after I hit enter...i fell for it lol

[tacit ember]

WILL CASHAPP $2 TO WHOEVER CAN TELL ME WHAT GOLD POWDER(not ingots) is used for. Show proof and its yours!!!!!!!!

[silent basin]

turn it into ingots

[gaunt shell]

is there seriously already full geared teams in level 5 lobbies? this team has one perk and full jewlery plus cape

[terse stratus]

I got my first ever cape off a skelechampion so I’m happy

[cold reef]

If you spectate you run the risk of losing your looted items. This has happened to me twice since the patch dropped

[fleet patrol]

anyone having any success with rogues?

[woeful rain]

i went with team to second floor then we got randomly disconnected without our loot, wtf

[opal oyster]

good joke

[plucky mirage]

Yea it’s not that hard to get

[wispy trail]

an extraction game with broken extractions hmmmm

[warped belfry]

its almost as if gear is incredibly too easy to get....so just use gear

[icy pond]

found a cape in my second normal goblin. that NE loot room where a random item spawns on the bench, where theres death beatles, goblines, and a shrine. good room. jewelery drops everywhere if you're killing bats and centipede. also goblin vendor always buy the rings theyre usually blue or better. only costs 100g

[delicate yew]

Is there a reason I kept my inventory on death?

[carmine basin]

Death = keepings your loot and exfil = you loose everything

[gaunt shell]

bro was level five and the game wiped at 2 am, im on a fresh character and havent found shit from any champions or gold chests. i was stacked last wipe i have no issu

[cold reef]

Unscrupulous people transfer items between characters with their "friends". It's a plague and should be dealt with harshly.

[sour plinth]

what s wrong with this patch?? lost all my stuff after red portal loading fail, very bad patch

[young gyro]

It's more like they have friends or viewers drop them loot.

[twin urchin]

Give cleric anti tank land mines to counter the heavy vehicles that rogue can use

[steady valve]

Goblin caves is literally free loot now lol

[balmy mango]

WHY AM I RANDOMLY LOSING ALL MY GEAR WHEN I EXTRACT!!!!!!

[scarlet spindle]

Can't even play right now, all actions are delayed by a over second. Anyone else getting this

[warped belfry]

Probably bought gold. there arent that many streamers that you are running into them every game lol

[jagged badger]

I think rogues should load into matches with no weapons, and they have to go through a minute long quick-time event with a guitar hero guitar to strangle another player from behind

[queen root]

nope

[elder lynx]

Is anyone else losing all their loot on extractions

[raven parcel]

Every single time

[cold reef]

This is 100% why IMHO, the marketplace should be replaced with an auction house.

[sour plinth]

roll this patch back! very instable and new merchant prices for starting 2h swords suck as well

[placid bobcat]

i made it out of my 1st run with all the loot still

[stuck wraith]

this game would be way more exciting if the maps were procedurally generated

[plucky mirage]

It took me about 3 games to get geared out, it’s really not that hard

[winter parcel]

i lost 2 runs on extract back to back...what the hell is this shit!?!?!?!

[gaunt shell]

idk man i dont remember level 1-5s having purple jewlery and capes

[small aurora]

anyone get out of raid but your inventory is blank i just got out with mad stuff and once i got out i had nothing

[chrome stirrup]

I just lost all my shit

[delicate solar]

They already are, partially. Doors in GC now change places from run to run.

[tranquil merlin]

Same

[plain otter]

So the game isn't really playable until you fix this losing all your inventory shit, should prolly take the servers down for a hotfix

[silent basin]

agree

[flint lake]

anyone else's update just not downloading?

[stark fog]

doesnt happen to me so its not a real bug

[queen root]

Thats how ends patching all at once instead of partially improvements. Warlocks are now nuts xD

[marsh quartz]

bro fix the game bruh just made it out and all my stuff is gone

[plucky mirage]

Dog I played 3 games and had pretty solid gear. Just go to hell and do bosses/hell and you will have good gear

[steady valve]

Weapon damage makes like no sense now. Some weapons start at like 35 as white and go to 42+ as blue. Then there’s weapons that start art like 30 dmg white and end at 32-33 blue. The math ain’t mathing

[delicate solar]

Interesting why some people are extracting ok and others aren't ).

[wild socket]

‼️ DON'T go to red portal & DON'T watch until someone goes to the red portal if you already escape -> the server will crash & your loot will be rolled back ‼️

[serene delta]

Hell is broken, reverting you to back before the match

[rapid halo]

Is Golden teeth a craft item?

[chrome stirrup]

Uhh does the extracting glitch happen every game for everybody or just once in a while?

[cold reef]

Negative, it is a drop from a skeleton I believe

[glacial forum]

ive been having it happen in goblin caves. its not just red portals doing it

[marsh quartz]

i think the extraction glitch is happening regardless of hell or not, the glitch just happened in a ruins run

[winter parcel]

mine happened only in cave

[wraith imp]

I want old GC normal back with 9 players, not this pve fest we have now. Its so boring.

[stark fog]

wait until you find out about how some weapons last patch nearly started at 40

[flat rampart]

-Anyone else having mega slow download?

[subtle heart]

Ranger still OP?

[wild socket]

maybe server crashes every time the zone is finished. therefore once you left -> leave the match

[noble lark]

Is hell scuffed? we got rolled back

[hoary flax]

Got rolled back twice in hell now, FIX

[unborn vigil]

So much crashing

[dusty raft]

weapon balance in this game is so fucked now, my character is under 15 and its not uncommon to see fully kitted out people with purple/blue weapons they bought from merchant

[raven parcel]

Twice I tried going to hell and got out to the main menu with no loot at all

[dapper marlin]

anyone have problems with chaf not letting you update?

[willow rampart]

Is there a wiki for the game that's up to date at all or nah? Just wanted to try to understand where to find mats for crafting stuff was

[marsh quartz]

i think you are right my friend and I were the last ones out and the glitch happened

[weak umbra]

idk i was watching games until the end and nothing happened

[silent basin]

anyone figure out what triggers loot crashing?

[subtle heart]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow Rollbacks keep happening during extraction, this should be an emergency to be able to @ ya'll.

[limpid merlin]

curious, what server you on? no issues for me on east virginia so far

[tough pagoda]

real

[warped belfry]

color matters even less today than it did yesterday

[knotty plaza]

is warlock bugged rn? I am not healing on curse of pain

[faint hollow]

Nerf the fighter!

[raven parcel]

😂😂☠️

[wild socket]

maybe not 100% chance but every time I watched until the end, the loot rolled back. actually, it seems like a way to roll back your loot if you died 🫣

[marsh quartz]

im on east virginia server as well, @knotty plaza curse mastery is broken, also make sure you have the perk to heal

[mint oasis]

no problems on EU servers

[weak umbra]

i will check it if i die with something

[ancient mango]

I'm so good rn I just got unique

[livid hornet]

Got out of a hell run and didnt get the loot after extracting.......

[shadow widget]

1st game - I see a fucking HR GC map.

I queue normals ESPECIALLY not see this trash.

This patch is so fucking trash it's absurd. But atleast I can buy overpriced trash from merchants too. Will be waiting for proper patches, this shit is unenjoyable.

[zinc totem]

It’s not hard crybaby, the mobs are regular

[velvet lava]

are there no gray items anymore in the merchants? my poor 10g longsword..

[bleak echo]

Weapon balance is the best it’s been grey to epic is 3-4 damage

[rain dagger]

Does this game play alright on Linux through Steam Proton?

[mint oasis]

yea its awesome now u actually have a change against better weapons

[inner tree]

I have finished two matches and the stash/inventory from the match didnt save and its as if I never went in the dungeon

[plain otter]

A lot of good things in this patch, but also a lot of bad. This inventory wipe bug makes the game unplayable, and the reduced player count in goblin caves to 7 (btw, there are 6 portals and a static extract, 2 in the high roller version) have made the map a PvE snoozefest. Figure it out.

[gilded sparrow]

same

[hard wharf]

Why are there so many more spiders

[warped belfry]

how does spell memory work?

[gaunt shell]

does weaponsmith still sell falchions? havent seen on in like 6 different rolls

[pseudo lance]

I died on a trio run and came back to lobby with all my loot…. Is this something dupers are doing?

[cold reef]

It allows you to use more higher level spell builds.

[hard thicket]

is going hell making your character roll back?

[noble galleon]

any idea where gold is found?

[cunning sorrel]

@warped belfry knowledge and spell capacity boost it

[warped belfry]

I guess I am just wondering how to switch spells without using the clunky wheel

[bright garnet]

how is it clunky

[pearl violet]

you sell object to the collector?

[cold reef]

For now, the wheel is what we have to work with.

[high jewel]

Overall rly liking the new patch. The vendor changes and additions are great. The torch change is cool too and adds another level to gameplay...(the run away and pray lol) among other things like allowing you to bridge gaps.

[serene torrent]

Yea so what's happening is a rollback to the lobby so people coming out with loot are coming out like they never played the run. The same thing also happens for geared players when they die (which causes a dupe exploit if they know how to execute it). Kinda lame because I've been dying by purple set players and finally got out with 3 kills + a full inventory of treasures so I could finally unlock trading... Then it rolledback

[lone goblet]

Mad cuz bad

[keen path]

can someone told me if recurvebow is a long range weapon ?

[noble galleon]

the ore you dummy

[warm rune]

Where do you get gold ore?

[warped belfry]

it is literally a console feature, it does not work well with mouse and keyboard

@cold reef but i see jaygriff switching spells without ever using the wheel

[keen elbow]

yes last 3 games

[pseudo lance]

Bruh that sucks to hear thanks for the information though!!!

[acoustic aspen]

is the golem immune to magic?

[pulsar pebble]

bruh, the rating in goblin caves is on another whole fucking new level. lol

[cold reef]

I would like to know how that is done, you should ask him how.

[subtle heart]

just had a wipe, I had 3000+ golds, where did they go ? @glad thunder

[high jewel]

I think hes just using the wheel very fast

@subtle heart game was wiped again

[warped belfry]

lol, I dont hang out on twitch, just seen on youtube

[vapid bramble]

When you cast life siphon, are you allowed to move?

[cunning sorrel]

@warped belfry he uses the wheel just quick with it

[steady zodiac]

LOL wtf in the main menu if I swap from my other character to my ranger the trap chain starts going crazy @zinc sparrow

[smoky coyote]

WHY DIDNT THEY WIPE WHEN THEY DROPPED THIS UPDATE

[serene torrent]

You know that the mobs aren't elite mobs right?... sounds like you can't get used to pve fundamentals. Wonder if you run base gear, die by a mummy spider and say "nerf fighters"

[plain otter]

They did?

[high jewel]

I already have 400g on my fighter and i played 2 games. 3k gold is not hard to get if youre learning where the best trinket spots are on GC normal for some easy lazy farming.

[winter goblet]

They probably mean levels

[warped belfry]

ok, that sucks....imagine not being able to set hot keys on a pc

[rich elm]

3k gold is also easy to loose 🙃 https://youtu.be/63uI-fUaniw

[main steppe]

rangers are so fucking nauseating to play against, who the fuck thinks slowing the player hit until they're ready to fire again was a good idea

[twilit sail]

yes

[wet folio]

I believe it is to simulate how it would play out naturally. Like you have to flip through the pages to find the spell type shit.

[high jewel]

Truer words never spoken my friend...dang

[sacred dune]

ok so

[serene torrent]

It gets pretty easy after you've put in some time in a class. I.e Jay played at least 1000 hours so his muscle memory is pretty insane.

I main cleric and I could wheel select pretty fast after playing since playtest #2

[plain otter]

Yeahhhhh I can't play the game until you fix this whole extract and lose all your inventory stuff.... figure it out Ironmace... this is terrible

[copper star]

Not going to lie. GiG was pretty fking fun last night. Honestly thinking about playing that tonight instead lol.

[tiny umbra]

Has anyone had a bug where portals couldn't be interacted with?

[hybrid patio]

Are rangers complete cancer in GiG too. Thinking of trying it

[high jewel]

Probably...games a knock off DaD so they probably have a lot of the same mechanics

[robust rune]

Is inferno glitched for anyone else? My 3-stack went to the inferno then got booted into the character select screen and none of the items I had were on my as well

[limber badge]

Even worse believe it or not

[sacred dune]

so when u fkin nerfing warlocks? I got lobie full warlocks u low iq devs...killing rogues and now every1 its warlock xD nice IQ

[halcyon gale]

Game in early access btw

[pulsar pebble]

locks will get tuned back in a few days. newest class is always OP when it first arrives

[clear jasper]

100

[marsh quartz]

salty rogue scum of the earth

[subtle heart]

red portals not woring anymore

[keen forum]

Imagine everyone wanting to play the now completed class with new spells, how dare they.

[slate comet]

gold sellers are selling 7 billions of gold after wipe, seems like another dupe discovered

[limpid lava]

when did stashes get wiped?

[winter goblet]

Last night

[high jewel]

Youd think with your insane IQ that you would have realized they just fleshed the class out so everyone is playing them...

[copper star]

Not going to lie. GiG was pretty fking fun last night. Honestly thinking about playing that tonight instead with all these issues I’m seeing you guys talk about.

[orchid finch]

Someone ion general chat said Duplication is still in the game is there proof of this?

[pulsar pebble]

that or they just want your credit card info and they dont have the gold afterall @orchid finch people are worried the roll back when teams enter hell is duping gear but theres been no confirmed sources of 2 full sets being accessible.

[rich elm]

There is SO MANY people complaining about classes, buffs, nerfs LOL... The real problem of DnD atm is TEAMING UP in gobelin caves.
What about broken classes when u are against 2v1 teams every game u do?

• they cant be banned bcuz u need to prove they start teaming up before the game wich is literally impossible

[crystal onyx]

Thoughts on vendor gear making trading a bit more lackluster?

[clear jasper]

We love the gamble!

[willow cliff]

Im trying to sign into the website so i can purchase the game and start playing, but everytime i type my info and it loads my profile, it instantly goes back to the login screen

[rigid raft]

Buff rogue holy shit

[orchid finch]

what roll back is there when teams enter hell?

[bronze prairie]

anybody have any idea what the rotten fluids are/do?

[smoky coyote]

THIS UPDATE IS SO GOOD

[warped belfry]

Ya it has put me off of playing casters all together, but im going to give it a good shot and try to get used to it.

@wet folio interesting take

[sudden aspen]

second time i get removed from my game and lose all the shit i got👍 👍 👍

[wheat ferry]

Man I really enjoy the new GC but some of the rooms are just horrible

[unreal ocean]

anyone elses gear disapear when the leave the cave?

[serene torrent]

Think of it like your Q and E abilities. You have it set up the same way everytime you play. The way bards, clerics, wizards, and warlocks do it is the same. Doesn't matter how you organize it as long as it's easy to you

[rigid raft]

Buff rogue @zinc sparrow its unplayable I jumped on ranger from stealth and lost the 1vs1 - I had better gear 🙂 did not miss shots

[long warren]

is it me, or the Gobo caves feel super empty

[rain dagger]

Has the game ever gone on sale? Not sure if there's any reason to wait to buy.

[warped belfry]

try actually playing one so you know what you are dealing with.

[kind halo]

bro, these servers are terrible

[sharp stream]

ummmm i just did a goblin cave run and escaped. when i exited to lobby all the stuff i had gathered was gone. including the stuff i had equipped. it acted like i died when i didnt.

[keen elbow]

I GOT ROLLED BACK 5 LOBBIES IN A ROW

[marsh quartz]

the extraction bug is random it doesnt matter when you extract it could happen or not

[unreal ocean]

same shit just happened to me got some rings and shit that run all gone

[small aurora]

my game keeps ending abnormally then makes me restart over and over

[storm basalt]

Does anybody know where the ruins outskirt portal that was added is?

[olive gorge]

love it when you get kicked from the game mid loading screen and lose everything xd

[tame moth]

revert the goblin cave change the map differences sucks even worse for new players tryna learn the map and they get put in the harder map that is 10x more complicated and intricute

[dry blaze]

Reduce the time on the alch/surgeon reset for gods sake please lol

[orchid finch]

does the reroll bug only happen in goblin cave

[proud gale]

i just went deeper in the 3v3 dungeon looted and escaped with full inventory... went out to check my inv and its empty LOL

[copper star]

Greed and Greedier

[sudden aspen]

No, any maps

[steady zodiac]

ranger feels like dogshit, time for the next OP class

[warped belfry]

not yet, it just released lol

@tame moth do new players not know how to read maps?

[night yew]

Yo, anyone else have it happen where you survive a run but the game doesn't keep any of your loot?

[frank delta]

It's randomly generated now, map knowledge doesn't matter except for the "Areas"

[marsh quartz]

nah people complaining about the maps are trash at the game

[sweet ore]

Yes just happened to me

[vagrant dragon]

WAT ranger nerfs arent even that crazy

[frail grove]

SERVERS DWN@!?!?

[tame moth]

what tf does reading the map have to do with learning loot paths, where to avoid, where to mine where people spawn, these things are important but when the map gets changed up randomly its hard to actually learn, plus the hr map is hr for a reason its more complicated and more enemy spawns, the first map is straight forward and built for lesser gear people

[azure musk]

Bruh I can’t even get past the launcher lol, this update is finna take 8 years

[dusky zinc]

@RobbyG#2731

[tall birch]

It just means it will spawn in a random place on the outskirts. I got lucky with it got a purple ranger chest and got it to spawn right in front of me at spawn lol

[vast schooner]

Rogue is a dead class now, i cant even get 1 escape unless i play ultra passive and dont engage even Ai

[orchid finch]

so i smell a emergency patch occuring

[modest flame]

Anyone know what/where the black powder for crafting void blade is?

[dry blaze]

Alchemist and surgeon are glitched and not resetting potions for me lmao, been 20+ minutes

[ripe reef]

game is actually in such a garbage state

[mint oasis]

just gitgut sadge

[prisma cloud]

Nah just you bruv

[uneven cedar]

lmfao how the fuck did an archer mob pull from the other side of the room on a ranger and it ran past him and to me on the other side of the room?

[weak umbra]

i escaped and spectated someone until he entered hell, my inventory is good. maybe its a blacksmith problem again? i'm using chaf

[frank delta]

It's ok, I just got killed by a bard with an inventory full of drums. He just kept outrunning me and turning to toss them in my face

[karmic cloud]

Ranger but better

[olive gorge]

Also when did fighter have slayer working with a lantern on the other hand?

[fossil mauve]

Bro I got my inv reset after extracting, Like I extracted and my inventory reset to when I entered.

[night yew]

Glad your stuff is safe. It kept my Lsword and gloves I brought in, but it's basically like I didn't just do a run.

[orchid finch]

when u out and lose stuff that u picked up do u lose the stuff you brought in with you?

[grizzled lake]

lol dead run

[ripe reef]

lol dead game

[little ferry]

Just posting it here for the devs to see:

In general the patch made a lot of things better but I personally dont think gear shouldve been squished so much, especially weapons.

I think the general direction was okay, but the devs went a bit overboard with the change. There are some instances of weapons with white and green rarity sharing the same damage which should never happen. I suggest they get the values slightly apart again but not by much. I feel like 2 damage per rarity is a good middle ground with maybe the dark grey and grey rarity only having a 1 dmg difference.

In terms of the vendors, i like crafting items being this good, but having the regular vendor have so many epics feels kind of weird. I think regular blues is fine but epics should be reserved for ingame finding/trade. There can be other ways of getting gold sinks in the game (increase prise for purses etc.)

Other than that bugs I noticed so far:
-After some games you get out of the game without your loot (maybe desync issue)
-Plenty of smaller and bigger warlock interaction wackyness, needs looking at.

[winter goblet]

I've not been rolled back once. I wonder what's causing it

[wheat ferry]

Happened to me when I died one round. Wasn't mad

[mighty agate]

goblin caves doesnt roll back

[warped belfry]

all is learned by simply playing the game. It is not supposed to be easy

[sleek dirge]

The new goblin cave layout is ass. I already understand the HR layout, but with default gear its awful, you either find one other player or you just kill PVE the entire match and leave with 1/3 of the treasure of a regular goblin cave run. @sleek dirge EXACTLY . you can't throw default gear players into such a hardcore setting. I do extract from it but like you said it's just constant pve, dozens of spiders mosquitos and flying beetles, ZERO pvp in 10 matches because people are dead or gone already. I thought they said they were going to rotate a few different CENTER TILES not shove us into a highroller map style. Fking hate this update

[hybrid plume]

HEY MAYBE MAKE IT SO THE INVENTORY DOESNT RESET WHEN I LOAD OUT OF A RAID

[snow sparrow]

so whats the best solo class atm (previous bard main)

[twilit steppe]

in the span of 2 weeks bard went from my favorite class to my least favorite. Probably go ranger or cleric?

[winter goblet]

I've played a few games of ruins as well with no rollback, might be crypts specific?

As for goblin caves, I go to the mining rooms and find people almost always. With stashes reset, the mining rats are out in force.

[modest flame]

Also, the improved CoP hitbox on warlock is a flat out lie.

[mighty agate]

played 3 games of ruins all rollbacked back to back

[small aurora]

is anyone getting the message game ended abnormally

[supple mica]

Did they make the zone become smaller waaaay faster?

[tepid scaffold]

A portal has been added to the outskirts of Ruins. what does this means??

[orchid finch]

nope hit box is bigger, CoP doesnt do 10 instant damage like its supposed to tho

[topaz wing]

is hell just broken man. multiple times today i go down there with loot and im on the loading screen for an eternity and then it just sends me back to the main menu with the stuff i took in to the dungeon

[formal moon]

you can only go for it with a full team

[snow sparrow]

The bard nerfs are lethal man i'm fairly sure they are going to ease them up a bit in the coming days. Ranger is for nerds so i'll give cleric a go

[rigid field]

Where can i get centaur tail?

[azure depot]

is max luck still at 150?

[wheat ferry]

Nah it happened to me in GC 100%

[long burrow]

just happend 2 me rn

[fossil mauve]

sad, yeah I think it is a new bug.

[hard rock]

Anyone else get their inventory reset or just me

[modest flame]

it can't shoot through 1.5 foot gaps, yet doesn't hit when off the target by 2 inches. It's just bad. It's inconsistant af. Either it should hit when off by at least 9 inches, or it should go through such a gap size.

[rare harbor]

has anyone else been able to make it to the inferno, ive got sent back to the lobby every time

[topaz wing]

i had a full team of 3 down there that is not true at all lmao

[tame prism]

Everyone saying this update is huge the game feels exactly the same lol only difference now is 15belows people are geared again cause merchants so it kinda sucks no matter where you go

[woeful rain]

What is wrong with red portals? We escaped from 2nd floor and it feels like we died coz we dont have our loot and our eq. Thank you Ironmace xd

[snow sparrow]

bro it aint that serious lmfao. 🤣

[minor cobalt]

servers borked?

[ripe reef]

bro who keeps removing my work of art from #dnd-memes-only

[copper zenith]

just had this happen to me leaving goblin caves

[forest tiger]

is anyone else enjoying playing non-threatening wizard where you have to hit a fighter with 6 spells to kill him? then a ranger hits you with 1 arrow for 80% HP and you wake up in the lobby

[twin magnet]

EVERYTIME I TEAM UP WITH A RANGER THEY ALWAYS STEAL THE LOOT

[tame prism]

Ranger still as broken as ever lol

[little ferry]

didnt see those elusive non threating wizards, the one i see get me on 60% with one fireball

[hidden horizon]

I keep getting out of portals and my bags are empty

[storm storm]

get ranger out the game

[gentle mountain]

FIIIIIIIIXXXXXX YOOOOOOUUURRR SHIIIIIIIIIT GAAAAAAAAMEEEEEE

[rain dagger]

Have the devs said anything about wipes once the game is out of early access?

[steady zodiac]

nvm my ranger is still pretty scurry

[tulip elk]

before patch id extract 90% of the time with rogue, now IDONT extract 90% of the time

[tame prism]

They gutted rogues but rangers get a free pass after multiple patch’s

[half vessel]

Fix this SHIT! I die, I lose my items. I win, I lose my items. Literally no point playing rn

[lone ether]

The one thing I have to say about update is just a few to many portals on GC OTHER THAN THAT sorry it’s great

[formal moon]

I've done it

[random echo]

half the time ive extracted my bags are empty bc of servers or game bug

[ripe reef]

its not great tho, shit patch, shit game, shit company

[rain dagger]

Shit opinion, shit pfp

[unreal vessel]

i got rolled back in there

[hollow brook]

To the devs that might see this. Keep up the good work. Please ignore the cry babies

[frail spire]

its great, great patch, great game, great company

[cedar radish]

I got blue rotten fluids, can't sell. Anyone know what the use is?

[ocean herald]

New update is fucked, unannounced warlock nerf, shit maps in rotation like wtf

[gentle merlin]

Why would they nerf the damage on daggers AGAIN and buff the recurve bows damage by 3

[shadow patrol]

Warlock nerfs?

[snow sparrow]

warlock nerf are you tripping?

[sand quartz]

How is the patch so far?

[topaz wing]

yeah im just saying you do not have to have a full team to even go down there

[warped belfry]

people complain about weird things

[echo perch]

Ruins is actually Ranger Hell. Seriously, half the fucking teams are just 2 rangers who pick a dark spot to camp and sit there until someone walks by. It's Rogue Landmine 2.0 and it has range now lmao

[coral junco]

Bruh im complaining about the bard nerfs

[opaque citrus]

@zinc sparrow Is Dark ray broken right now? Seems like its only doing 1 dps instead of 3

[modest flame]

It is nerfed, dude's not wrong. 2 new spells have any use whatsoever, healing was nerfeed, technically it was bugged but still a nerf since it was that way so long. costs up, MR on most gear now. We are weaker than before in every way, objectively.

[rain dagger]

Just play like every corner has someone camping

[cedar radish]

does anyone know what Rotten Fluids are? I got them blue from a farter and I don't know what to use it for. Won't sell to collector.

[mighty agate]

orb of light

[ember frost]

just escaped a run and all my stuff disappeared. just had the basic kit

[valid pumice]

SO I CANT GET OUT OK THEN GG

[ocean herald]

hellfire + curse of pain no longer works

[solar crater]

anyone else having serious stutters/fps drops and disconnects?

[queen finch]

anybody know how to fix the black screen when starting the game?

[warped cove]

the servers are getting jerked right now

[snow sparrow]

lol Ok fair. but you have a shield that makes you immune to all magic damage (including your own you can use curse of sacrifice on yourself with the shield to get 15 str for free) and alot of other utility but shields the main giga buff. it's one of the best spells in the game @modest flame

[echo perch]

Nahhh what's this dogshit take, there are SO many dark spots you can hide on I can't be spending 400g on torches to throw one at every fucking corner

[teal basin]

Can you still rest/crouch look down to fight wraith

[steady robin]

Is it possible for rogues to kill people now or is naked pick pocket the only viable build

[rain dagger]

Just get good lmao

[ancient dove]

Just wanted to give everybody a heads up, I just escaped from Goblin Caves and when I returned to lobby and went straght to merchant, everything in my inventory was gone. I actually had the exact same setup I started with going into that dungeon. Unfortunately I just lost a good amount of rings, necklaces, weapons and jewelry to this lil bug. I reported it but did not have shadow play recording. Just incase this happens to somebody else

[drifting herald]

MY INVENTORY WAS JUST WIPED !?!?!?!?!

[scarlet moss]

Is bard songs order bugged? It doesn't seem to care about the order I equip songs. If I run 10 spell, I can never use the +3 all song, it's always not enough knowledge no matter the song order I setup

[wheat ferry]

Thanks, I don't think anyone has brought this up every few minutes

[hallow falcon]

WTF with HELL 15 time WIPE

[pine dagger]

Happened to me twice in a 30 min span, feels bad

[ripe reef]

just wanted to give everybody a heads up, the game is bad

[echo perch]

I can't wait to say that to all the crying rangers once they get the Rogue treatment!

[solid cypress]

heads up guys, greed is good will kill dis game

[rain dagger]

EARLY ACCESS. There will be bugs.

[little ferry]

Still looking for who asked

[plucky osprey]

PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME HOW AND WHERE TO USE OLD RUSTY KEY

[ember jetty]

bruh what is this lag its insane i can not play eveyone is teleporting and killing thier teammate by accdint wtf is this garbge bro

[ancient dove]

Thast funny because Im not a f***kng weirdo like you sitting here just reading chat, I came in here solely to post what had happen you cuhck.

[clever bone]

Is anyone else losing everything they have whenever they get out with a blue or go into red

[wheat fractal]

Hey does anyone know why they didn't wipe character levels? Was this an intentional decision? Would love to know the reasoning behind it

[wheat ferry]

You're truly the hero we all need!

[sleek holly]

that game has the exact same issues as this game in terms of balance and lag and stability. their auction house is top tier though, ngl i wish DaD had that

[lilac gyro]

game crash?

[steady robin]

It was intentional, probably because the wipe was earlier than intended

[modest flame]

Ah, the shield, the shield that lets you get some extra str when people let you drop 2 spells back to back without pushing. doesn't change the fact that the magic damage tickles, hydra has the tracking of a blind deaf bat trying to pinpoint the moon and proj speed that couldn't hit a rolling infant. ray of "tickle me harder" is a joke to have even put in the game with how it takes 3 casts to kill a dragonfly. Life drain has to be the biggest joke though. The enemy has to be in spear range to even cast it, then you have to stand still like an idiot.

[ripe reef]

bugs are the last thing to me that make this game bad, theres a lot more to it lmfao

[south silo]

Has anyone else had it to where u get out via the cave staircase in GC and dont have any loot when ug et back to lobby?

[dry stump]

that game is dogshit. project crawl is the only one that'll actually compete

[scarlet moss]

Rousing Rythm is disabled if you are over spell capacity?

[robust mica]

I JUST EXTRACTED AND MY INVENTORY IS DEFAULT WTF

[cedar radish]

does anyone know what Rotten Fluids are? I got them blue from a farter and I don't know what to use it for. Won't sell to collector.

[plucky osprey]

does anyone know how and where to use the old rusty key me and my friend keep taking it in and going to the usual spot and the rusty key won’t work is there just no loot for the key right now ?

[cosmic tendon]

its for weapon crafting. go to weaponsmith and click on services

[echo perch]

Save, used for crafting now

[signal osprey]

its in HR now

[solid cypress]

its in the same position that DnD was in early playtests.. a few months from now it may be better. lots of work to do for DnD and GiG if either want to stay relevant

[dense crane]

can u not go down right now?

[little ferry]

for example, that you need hands.

[jagged wolf]

why every melee role is bad now?

[weak umbra]

because ranger exists

[sand mantle]

crossbows are still misfiring

[plain marsh]

didnt they say they added old rusty door back in game? i dont see a place to use old rusty key in weaopnsmith

[raw oak]

What people thinking about everyone on GC now being able to escape? 7 players, 6 portals and a stairs exit. Pretty huge change.

[scenic hornet]

GiG is shit but it has an auction house... big W

[iron widget]

The Changes to damage and armor ratings are awesome

[plucky osprey]

is it at the top of tower in middle or somwhere completely new?

[ember jetty]

bruh why do i have to shoot 5 times for my crossbow to shoot tf is this

[queen finch]

anybody getting a black screen when launching the game and know how to fix it?

[wheat ferry]

Turn on your monitor

[hard sierra]

Anyone else having roll-back issues? First one so far. But very odd. Escaped through portal and was reset to pre-raid items

[scarlet moss]

Rousing Rythm is unable to be used if you are short ANY spell capacity. it's automatically picked last. Maybe to prevent using the +3 all to run another song? Really stupid if so.

[sleek holly]

agreed. i will say, GiG has yet to take anybody's money, and it already has a lot more features. if they improve as much as DaD improved from early access to release (release being the point at which they start taking money, as DaD has long passed that point and it shows), then yeah GiG wins by miles.

simply put: what's the financial incentive for DaD to fix their game? they've probably already captured the majority of the customers that they would have on steam. there isn't much incentive remaining in terms of game sales that will result from improving core gameplay, only thing that will actually substantially improve sales for DaD is getting on steam.

[dry stump]

This happens to me but always eventually loads in. Didn't happen at first but after a few weeks. It'll be black for about 20-40 seconds.

[weak umbra]

cringe af, make it 12 players and 4 portals+staircase. they are fixing dupe glitches and then allow people to farm gold without any risk

[unborn vigil]

i feel like it's all highroller GC layouts today

[odd panther]

still has the bug where when you leave you loose all your stuff

[ripe reef]

they didnt fix any duping tho 😂

[raw oak]

yeah kinda my feeling to, before it was like half the players could escape, making it so everyone can get out is crazy

[subtle heart]

this game gets worse with every update i swear bro

[plain marsh]

bro say what you want about the dev team but you cant accuse them of not working hard. what a shit opinion

[rare holly]

NEXON EMPLOYES MAKING A BUNCH OF BOT ACCOUNTS SPAMMING DISCORD WITH THE IDEA OF A LOOT DELETION BUG IS SOO FUNNY LMAO IM 29 EXTRACTIONS IN A ROW STREAK TODAY NEVER HAPPENED. DONT LISTEN TO THESE NEXON BOTS AND ENJOY THE AMAZING NEW PATCH

[south silo]

I had the same thing about 7 mins ago

[mighty agate]

cringe

[sacred notch]

You need to rewipe btw with Hotfix #1 btw @zinc sparrow otherwise this wipe is already dead

[teal jolt]

i just got out of the dungeon and i dident get anything i got from it...

[vernal reef]

bro i didnt get anything after extracting

[sleek holly]

reading comprehension ain't your strong suit and that's OKAY! but re-read what i said and find where I said they don't work hard. all I said is they're not incentivized to improve the game anymore.

[dry stump]

why? and pinging graysun ain't gonna do anything

[cinder abyss]

Lol these aren't all bots man. It's legit happening.

[jovial marlin]

btw

[weak umbra]

oh, let the devs cook and hold the line then, im sure they will fix it soon!!!

[ripe reef]

😹

[formal moon]

devs kinda cooking with rotten materials at this point tbh

[weak siren]

Bruh, you okay? The bug is there, I heard it happens when you spectate, you just finish the game without loot. Doesn't happen that often though.

[dim cloud]

Equipping "Curse Mastery" on warlock makes it so "Power of Sacrifice" no longer heals from "Torture Mastery", Idk if PoS is supposed to also heal, but eitherway CM removes the heal from PoS.

[subtle heart]

do you have enough hope in the tank to carry the discord ? lol

[ripe vessel]

anyone else find the game more enjoyable after a wipe?

[rare holly]

NEXON EMPLOYES MAKING A BUNCH OF BOT ACCOUNTS SPAMMING DISCORD WITH THE IDEA OF A LOOT DELETION BUG IS SOO FUNNY LMAO IM 29 EXTRACTIONS IN A ROW STREAK TODAY NEVER HAPPENED. DONT LISTEN TO THESE NEXON BOTS AND ENJOY THE AMAZING NEW PATCH

[sacred notch]

There is an easy duplication glitch that is currently going to ruin the entire economy @dry stump

[echo perch]

Was replying to the guy asking about fluids not key

[sleek holly]

share plz asking for a friend

[teal jolt]

rip im not playing atm if im gonna keep extracting with none of my shit lol

[dry stump]

this guy does nothing in this channel except shit his diapy every 5 minutes while blowing his nose and wiping his tears

[cinder abyss]

Game is more enjoyable that I'm playing Greed is Good tbh. At least the love is there and noticeable.

[warped belfry]

the economy was ruined before anyone even played this wipe

[gritty flume]

each agi only increases manual dexterity by one percent? It's going to be next to impossible to get any song playing speed unless you're actually turbo juiced

[dim cloud]

That's happened me once in like 15 extractions, it's not frequent

[subtle heart]

It was ment as a joke you mouth breathing weirdo

[jade elm]

why when we go to hell we get sent back to lobby with no loot?

[signal osprey]

I DO NOT TRUST GIG IMO they are extremely shady. there chat was being blown up with obceneites and profanitys( which imo i would steer clear as it seemed it was a group of people doing it and they may have had a good reason) i found that an hour after downloading and playing my cashapp card started to get charged random amounts of money multiple times. i dont trust anyone saying to play GiG it all seems shady and malicious i would tread extremely lightly with that game

[vast raft]

ummm lag just got me killed

[livid gust]

Are they going to fix hell or sit on their ass and do nothing like usual?

[fluid lion]

The new gc map I kee geting is trash as I don’t play high roller and there way more Pve in just one room alone makes that Lobby unplayable as I don’t play this game 247 as I have a life but makes it hard for people with life’s that do want to sit down and play not want to die to to much going on in one room alone

[shell lion]

So is the issue where we are ( this just happened to me) exiting via portal to an empty inventory a connection issue? What is going on here??

appreciate the devs working on this

[rare holly]

its a skill issue

[slender dome]

genuine cancer patients in this community

[ripe reef]

dont worry, even us that know the highroller gc map hate the regular map now

[warped belfry]

dont buy hardcore games

[wheat ferry]

This is pretty silly. Aren't cancer patients the victims? Toxic people would BE the cancer not the cancer's target

[devout yacht]

the black swarm instead of red and the timer change are terrible. Everything else is great

[brave hill]

even after a huge patch it seems like nothing changed... rangers everywhere

[rose prawn]

screw inron mace with there servers. I got kicked out due to server crash and I lost everything I got

[onyx trout]

can you no longer open portals that are outside of the zone?

[candid sable]

hell level broken?

[dry stump]

it does not change the fact that all @weak umbra does is shit his diaper while slamming his snot covered hands on his keyboard

[upper bramble]

just happened to me im so sad

[signal osprey]

Do not listen to people saying to play GiG it is deffinetly a scam game created to just get as many downloads and personal information as possible and there is a group of people that realize that

[fluid lion]

Thanks dad 😂 have a life then man it’s nice work a lady friend not siting in a dark room looking like some goblin from the game but thank you for trying

[sharp hornet]

yep, every single lobby ive been in since patch has been completely gutted by rangers on kill feed, it's a joke at this point

[steep timber]

What glitch?

[weak umbra]

sure someone who have a real life would make sure that everybody on a discord server know it

[amber sky]

Server is lagging as hell, I alt f4 - full blackscreen - relog again - my teammates ress me and now I see myself on 3rd person but cant move. What is this game lmao

[warped belfry]

no ones fault but your own. if you dont have time to play a game then dont buy it, its pretty simple

[tiny hazel]

first day of wipe, there is still duplication

[main steppe]

I just wish rangers wouldn't slow on hit, insanely OP bullshit mechanic

[olive nova]

anyone else go thru a portal and lose all thier inventory ? just happened to me

[devout yacht]

video or it didn't happen

[subtle heart]

You got weird takes my guy just sayin

[sacred notch]

Take blue and reds and see what happens @steep timber

[pearl hornet]

I hope they ban all the teamings on GC

[plain marsh]

if they had no intention of 'fixing' the game like you said then why are they pullin crazy hours to deliver on patches? i think you need to work on your critical thinking skills before you try and criticize others for reading comprehension

on another note, i just extracted from gc and i did not keep any of my loot. had some nice ass purple pants that dropped from a skeleton champ 😦

[fluid lion]

It’s called my opinion you kno freedom of speech or do you need a lesson on that stuff I don’t care what you have to say my guy I don’t have a bless night

[snow sparrow]

life drains really good especially once you get gear your able to outheal fighter damage and mobs just stand infront of them and life drain (even without gear its a good alternative for out of combat healing just sit up high somewhere and life drain down on mobs). Hydra is super good for zoning and blocking doors, if you can't cast 2 spells before your in melee range literal skill issue. (i agree ray of darkness is bad but it becomes usable once you get some magic dmg gear you can hit for like 10 dmg a tick which is pretty nice.

[viscid finch]

Does anyone know where to find gold ore I cant find it anywhere

[pearl hornet]

seems like is only on ruins map?

[sleek holly]

you mean they're a day late and miles short of what was initially promised this patch? and yeah as you just pointed out, the game doesn't even work in it's current state.

why are they trying to fix it? there IS still money to be made, just not nearly as much. they got the bag and they don't owe you shit. they could pull the plug a month from now and still be up millions of dollars from the paid early access launch

[obtuse lily]

any fix for the rollbacks?

[limber badge]

I'm hoping they make an announcement that they're looking at the bug soon. But I am guessing they're taking a break after this patch haha

[plain marsh]

good lord are you even a real person? what's it like going through life being so cynical all the time

[spare trench]

oce just full rubber banding

[misty tree]

@signal osprey you do realize steam validates and makes sure every game is secure before it is added right, so you’re wrong.

[pastel pewter]

@sleek holly finally someone got the devs **** out of their mouths. We paid for this shit we should be able to demand fixes or AT LEAST acknowledgement

[viscid finch]

cant find it anywhere

[bronze gorge]

ok this new centipede is no joke. how tf am i suppose to avoid the poison now??

[mental warren]

where do we go to report a bug

[modest flame]

My man, you aren't outhealing fighter damage unless you have the gear and the fighter is base kit, then it's just a gear gap, don't lie to people. A spell that is ONLY usable when you're in a cheese spot is a bad spell, full stop. I don't know what server you play on, but here in the US we have these things called cowards. They stop moving the moment they hear a single step, shot, door, enemy, etc so they step out 5 feet from you. They hide in zone and wait minutes for people to happen to come their way. That isn't time to cast multiple spells unless you literally have something installed to allow you to do it faster than the base game allows. I do agree that hydras can block doors, but that is where any use for it ends. it can't zone if there is even a foot of room beside it because then they just run past it and it never hits them.

[sleek holly]

most things i pay for in life are done far better than this game, including the things i develop for a small company of 300 employees. i feel more responsible to those 300 people than the devs who service hundreds of thousands of paying customers. so idk, what's it like going through life having a stranger's ween in your throat?

[weak siren]

I heard that it happens when you press spectate. So could try that.

[wooden gulch]

yo are they working on the loot disappearing after u extract bug and how common is it

[jovial marlin]

happened my first raid i went straight to lobby

[limber badge]

Oh looks like Graysun just said they're working on a hot fix. That would probably be something I announce, but I'm glad they acknowledge it

[real leaf]

Ah Yess a fellow swordsman who knows to not play like a rat

[plain marsh]

i was the last one out of the dungeon lol

@pastel pewter what havent they acknowledged?

@sleek holly how do you know what the devs feel? ur nuts dude whatever

[misty oriole]

very wholesome chat❤️

[mental warren]

it can also happen when you through red portals

[trim ravine]

ranger is still op

[pastel pewter]

@plain marsh The fact you are asking tells me all I need to know about you!

[quaint rain]

red portals making all my stuff disappear wont even let me go down

[dusky sparrow]

This is their first game as a company there's gonna be rough patches. I'd rather give.devs room to fail so they can improve and build stuff later than the hell that is the current contract based games market. Look into halo infinites development for instance. Contract workers built the engine, contracts ran out, project was gimped because they just went for newer cheaper contracts and the new people didn't have time to learn the engine

[modern bobcat]

Why do you care so damn much? it's weird. Trying doing something besides being chronically online

[misty tree]

Guys remember don’t criticize the devs, only reason mass hate isn’t happening is because they mute and ban anyone who criticizes them. That’s why the player count has dropped massively and now you don’t see as much criticism in chat.

[viscid finch]

WHERE IN THE RUINS IS THE FERNIERBNI GOLD ORE

[wooden gulch]

where

[blazing latch]

red portal roll back..

[shell lion]

Agree!!!! Too much toxic nonsense in this chat!!

[limber badge]

#the-tavern message

[ebon gulch]

Lol nothing constructive about saying “dead game”. People will make up the craziest shit to rationalize their delusion

[dull shale]

Why do plate boots have less armor than heavy boots now? lol

[plain marsh]

it's not just red portals. i got rolled back after takin a blue in gc

@shell lion too much schizoposting on here. 'the devs dont feel responsibility to the community' 'the devs dont have any incentive to fix the game' its like the dude just forgot the last 48 hours

[median kindle]

is hell bugged for everyone else?

[quaint rain]

yup

[dusky sparrow]

Literally the chats are almost nonstop complaints.lmao

[pseudo dust]

Wipe incoming, dupe bug has been found and exploited glhf

[misty tree]

@dusky sparrow that’s funny because ironmace disagrees with you on their site. Here look. We are a merry band of veteran game developers disillusioned by the exploitative and greedy practices we once helped create. We are experts who have worked on many of the biggest hits in Korea. Their own words so stop already.

[limber wraith]

Devs play ranger and hate rogues change my mind, 3 uniques for ranger since start

[silver basalt]

are mimic items used for crafting

[plain marsh]

yall got literally nothing constructive to say. it's just 'devs bad'. go play a different game lol, it's clear you just want to whine to get attention

[limber badge]

Skill issue

[ebon gorge]

Yall gotta nerf the archer like what is this shit. they favorate the archer above every class in the game and it shows so heavily

[modern aurora]

What do you do with rotten fluids?

[dull shale]

gurgle them

[dusky sparrow]

That's literally just tagline/buzzword speak. Some of them had their first project as p3. They even specified certain things like making their own launcher, they are new too. But please show me iron maces portfolio as a studio, I'll wait

[sleek holly]

agreed. if only they took that design philosophy and applied it to other things, like a bard playing instruments and broadcasting to all surrounding rooms what your intentions are.

[quaint lodge]

clerics sanctuary is now 5 clicks of heal instead of 6 clicks ;P

[valid flume]

so many people complain about rogues, and no one complains about bards..

[tiny hazel]

WIPE THE GAME AGAIN

[scarlet umbra]

inventory reset on exit bug just fucked me hard god dammit

[viscid finch]

Does anyone know where to find gold ore In ruins?

[misty tree]

Bro is hardcore in denial. No it isn’t, it’s who they are as developers, as a collective team. You need serious hwlp bro. I love the concept of this game but you aren’t helping by not being honest with them and holding them to “their standards” or a global standard.

[atomic moon]

What's the best AntiAliasing for performance?

[toxic sleet]

shitgame

[sleek holly]

i'm here to complain about bard nerfs. they didn't even include the stat reductions to their songs in the patch notes this time around. wtf is that?

will we ever get complete patch notes or are we just going to be okay with tons of unlisted changes to class abilities? why even have patch notes at all if we're just left guessing on the majority of it? there's just no rhyme or reason to what was omitted from the patch notes, other than malicious intent

EDIT: I dont say this to be a mean or shit on Ironmace. I know they're a small company trying to move fast. But they act like they discovered alien lifeforms and nobody else is allowed to touch it. In reality they made a game on a nearly 20 year old game engine, and they've got hundreds of thousands of enthusiastic testers. Of those hundreds of thousands, there are (surely) thousands such as myself that would be willing to help. However, again, they refuse the help.

[modest flame]

Yeah there's a lot of weird here. Life drain is the same way for lock. the last second does literally nothing, it's useless, a bait.

[wicked lintel]

any warlcok players on that could help me with a few questions? did they make it so only agony heals or does curse of sacrifice still apply damage instances to heal more??

[north nebula]

@wicked lintel remove curse mastery perk. it is causing Paint o deal no instant damage and sacrifice to not heal

[dusky sparrow]

Strange how you dodged the question of their portfolios. I guess you must think it's also a factual statement the games an irresistible classic, since buzzwords apparently aren't a thing to you?

They could have a veteran concept artist, that doesn't mean they're a massive team with decades of various projects under their belt with experience in every facet of running a game development company

[obtuse plinth]

Make cuthroat remove buffs

[plain marsh]

hit them with a curse of pain, then hit them with a power of sacrifice

@gritty flume yes it does

[gritty flume]

does curse mastery still break curse of sac healing?

[haughty hinge]

Bard's song prio doesn't even work, it randomly prioritizes ssongs that u don't have knowledge for yet pls fix

[subtle heart]

Is hell fixed yet anyone know?

[dim cloud]

I just want to point out that you can't see the warlock beam dmg on target dummy, would be nice 🙂

[valid flume]

amen, brother! AND they are okay for some reason with nerfing the fuck out the only class that had a chance to compete with cleric for supporting the party. rn its literally a fighter

[dusky sparrow]

The bard nerfs I agree are a bit much combined with the spell memory.

[sleek holly]

for real! before this patch, the bard was already replaced in the meta by campfires and clarity potions. there was simply no reason to have a bard when you can sip a clarity potion and not waste time sitting as you would need to with a bard. now that bards have half the spells and less dmg, the class should just be removed from the game.

[coral junco]

How do yall feel about Ironmace removing memes targeting at their nerfs?

[manic wren]

what do i do with rotten fluids? collector doesnt want it

[unreal vessel]

u dont need a video, it has been happening with alot of people, including myself.

[ebon gulch]

Unreal 5 uses legacy code sure but calling it a 20 year old engine is a bit much right?

Also some changes shouldn’t be advertised to the community. For example the centipede got some new moves but shouldn’t that be something we have to find for ourselves? I understand the bard changes are a lot but they also wrote the patch notes at 6am after supposedly staying up all night, I think we can cut them some slack for that lol

[flat pecan]

happening to everyone ignore the neckbeard

[swift portal]

did they just wipe ??

[sleek holly]

i think they are softhearted snowflakes who are all caught up in their fee-fees. jk, really it's overzealous mods here in the discord. they do not take criticism well and they LOVE to feel in control over the community. to the point where mods will just straight up lie about having information and lorde over people with things like "I can't tell you that, it would give information to cheaters" when in reality they don't have the information themselves, and it's not even sensitive information. Just power-trippin dummies

[outer fossil]

why is the time being increased between the messages i can send? do they not want to read and listen to constructive critisism?

[warped belfry]

what are u talking about

[wraith herald]

lk

[coral junco]

Bro like Imma send you the meme I made bro like its original and stuff

[frank sequoia]

why is it that every time i take red portal i get booted from the server?

[civic grotto]

wahwah no one cares that you lost your stuff. you should EXPECT AN EARLY ACCESS game to be BUGGY

THATS WHY ITS EARLY ACCESS!!!!

[dry blaze]

Bro I just extracted and didnt get a single thing that I got in the dungeon, all my treasure is gone

[subtle heart]

whats going on wih the ruins map for some reason 6 portals all spawned at the exact same time during the last circle

[warm basin]

Game's gonna be dead in the space of a few more months. They are horrible at balancing. and every time they try they kill the skillcap even more. games current state is meta combos and people facerolling straight at you to kill you. no counter plays no nothing. Its just a boring run to the enemy + slugging match. If they keep capping speed etc the game will just be auto resolve every time.

[dense arch]

same thing happened to me 4 times now and had good shit fucking annoying

[jovial marlin]

LMAO

[warped orchid]

14 movespeed on occultist boots is busted

[neon lark]

anyway to speed up download? im getting 500kb/s when usually i get 10mb/s. ive seen it download faster just seems to like sitting at 500kbs

[pseudo dust]

Game dead now cause dupe bug was found and exploited

[warped belfry]

i give it a month

[livid onyx]

Ayo you bought the game?

[sinful compass]

Is there a dupe glitch again?

[rocky moat]

yes

[fringe lynx]

is weapon damage an attribute anymore?

[lyric lark]

whats the portal on the out skirts of ruins??

[rustic heart]

is +3 STR neck worth $$$?

[knotty kernel]

I remember a week ago when I was the only one forecasting doom, now I see a lot of people echoing the opinion. It seems like a lot of people are disatisfied with the games direction.

[warm basin]

wasn't it already exposed thath te "dupe" glitch is just an excuse they use to hide the fact that they have 0 idea how to balance the economy in their game and they are just faking it till they make it...

[empty sigil]

Seriously busted.

[serene delta]

booted to lobby back to back games, once from hell and once from before the game started

[tidal coral]

about 100]

[dense arch]

You go in raid then when you extract you lost stuff you got in raid and keep what you went in with LOL good job ironmace done till they fix. happend already 4 times and had good pvp and loot for nothing. entertaning and fun but nothing to show for it lol

[umbral finch]

Sometimes you get randomly rolled back when extracting? Lol, sometimes it even gives you gear back when you've died.

[dull shale]

this game is literally balanced by twitch streamers so lol

[jovial marlin]

complaincord

[livid gust]

bad game

[rocky moat]

on weapon only

[boreal island]

im really enjoying the patch tbh

[tidal plover]

Entertaining and fun, I quit 😭

[quaint rain]

THEN DONT PLAY

[split oxide]

anyone else getting booted from the game after hopping in reds?

[fringe lynx]

Thank you sir.

[warm basin]

Anyway. Time to uninstall the game. doesn't feel like a game anymore unless you are an ultra casual who enjoys auto resolved fights for cheap dopamin hits.

[vapid sphinx]

yea red portal bugged rn

[urban hazel]

when was the last wipe

[neon lark]

please fix download speed on blacksmith launcher. i usually get 10mbs+ on any other download but on blacksmith its just 500kbs. any fixes? besides getting better interent that joke is worn out

[fair shuttle]

See yah, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out lolv

[plain marsh]

goblin caves feels really bad rn there's no pvp at all

[formal moon]

oof...game is pretty rough rn. Extract get nothing

[cloud steppe]

is enyone else experiencing roll backs after leaving the cave

[quaint rain]

.

[modest flame]

The most fun part of this patch is the sheer number of people I headshot 1-2 times before dying, to then spectate 2 secs later and they are full hp. Why can no new game get anticheat right? Just make your numbers happen server-side IM, come on. It's that easy. If the hit costs the target life, just make it happen. They can keep whatever bs number it shows on their client, but they get booted server end when they die by the server calcs.

[dense arch]

Yes and it will happen again so either play knowing that or wait xD

[north shuttle]

attack someone, boom free pvp

[dull shale]

can't find anyone with all the damn portals lol

[spare sapphire]

just happened to me too... very disappointing

[eager cargo]

guys just take a break play something else and wait for patch

[plain marsh]

there's no incentive to pvp when theres 6 portals and 2 static exits for 7 players. there's nobody to fight because they either extract early or die to pve

[quaint rain]

.

[idle wind]

I just wanted to drop some opinions (facts), on the current state of our beloved indie game Dark and Darker. Now, I may not have ever touched Unity or UE, and my programming knowledge stops at "Hello World," but trust me when I say, I've got this all figured out. First off, let's talk Bard and Rogue. They finally nerf them, and we all cheered! But guess what? Now it's seems too nerfed! I mean, seriously? I can't even find a proper scapegoat for my losses anymore. It's like they want us to learn from our deaths? And those Warlock changes? Don't even get me started. We've been demanding them for months, and they finally listened. But honestly... #NOTMYWARLOCK. It's like they don't understand that we don't actually want the changes, we just want to complain about them! I mean, honestly, how hard can game development be, right? Just throw some numbers and letters together, carry a couple of 2's, and dot some i's. If they can't handle it, I can get involved. I've been playing video games 12 hours a day, every day, for the last 32 years. I'm practically a triple A studio on my own. So, IRONMACE, it's time to get your act together, or I might have to reconsider my support for this early access game if you can't meet all of my expectations. It's not rocket science; it's just computer science!

[long peak]

BRUH, I just exited with a bunch of loot and I got rolledback

[molten raft]

same feelsbadman

[noble bluff]

Anyone wanna play duos? I play as a barb.

[restive thistle]

why is the stash empty when i escape from a red portal and then survive with a blue one?

[north shuttle]

oh they put less people in gobbo caves? interesting, i'd rather that in ruins where i'm often getting spawn killed lol

[spare sapphire]

is this rollback issue happening every extract, or just bad luck?

[fair prawn]

summoning spells should not be able to target you while invis

[native prawn]

Bard sucks vibes bad big oofs

[snow rose]

just lost a full kit cuz going send me back to menu naked

[knotty kernel]

I would nominate you for head of the balance team in a heartbeat. I have no doubt you would actually do a better job at it than IM. I have never in my 15 years of gaming seen worse balance changes. I do not believe at this point anyone else could do worse.

[quaint rain]

yall cry over everything

[obtuse plinth]

Face tanking geared rangers with no gear I'd say I'm in the club

[limber bloom]

sdf — Today at 5:08 PM
We are preparing a hotfix patch to resolve the newly occurring rollback issue. Preparation will take some time. We apologize for the inconvenience.

[steady zodiac]

lmfao first hour playing this new patch and I run into a fully blue'd out rogue in 15+, dogwater addition

[frail spire]

Wrong. Nerf ranger that will fix it for sure

[heavy rain]

is anyone expriencing really bad lag i knows its not on my end and its basiclly unplayable for me right now

[versed saddle]

Honetly yall immature if yall really had brains like me youd vote for guns to be added to the game :/

[blissful elk]

Pirate class?

[sturdy grail]

GREAT GAME. 3 times in a row i'vve finished my run and left the match and then get out and everything i looted is just gone, and i still have the same inventory i went in with. What a waste of time.

[formal moon]

extracing is just as much loot as dying lol

[limpid lantern]

just got kicked in the middle out a round and now i have no main weapon or anything LOL

[solemn hatch]

Hot naan breads for sale

[bright ravine]

FUCK BUGS ¬¬

[proper gorge]

what's the best weapon on a barbarian?

[deep jetty]

Is there a LFG section in discord? not seeing it

[heavy rain]

stinky stick

[bitter flint]

anyone else get ejected after taking a down portal and get sent to the character select menu with a rolled back kit?

[opal saffron]

They said hotfix preparation will take some time. Based on yesterday’s 6 hour wait being “soon” we might as well pack it up til the weekend

[nocturne sinew]

I just got an inventory of selables a warlock purple kit from some kid I killed then extracted and everything disapeared from my inv

[quaint rain]

play the game or dont trust me everyone ele doesnt care

[languid cedar]

seek god 12 hours a day for 32 years is ur health okay? 😭

[civic grotto]

wahwah no one cares that you lost your stuff. you should EXPECT AN EARLY ACCESS game to be BUGGY

THATS WHY ITS EARLY ACCESS!!!!

[idle wind]

I just wanted to drop some opinions (facts), on the current state of our beloved indie game Dark and Darker. Now, I may not have ever touched Unity or UE, and my programming knowledge stops at "Hello World," but trust me when I say, I've got this all figured out. First off, let's talk Bard and Rogue. They finally nerf them, and we all cheered! But guess what? Now it's seems too nerfed! I mean, seriously? I can't even find a proper scapegoat for my losses anymore. It's like they want us to learn from our deaths? And those Warlock changes? Don't even get me started. We've been demanding them for months, and they finally listened. But honestly... #NOTMYWARLOCK. It's like they don't understand that we don't actually want the changes, we just want to complain about them! I mean, honestly, how hard can game development be, right? Just throw some numbers and letters together, carry a couple of 2's, and dot some i's. If they can't handle it, I can get involved. I've been playing video games 12 hours a day, every day, for the last 32 years. I'm practically a triple A studio on my own. So, IRONMACE, it's time to get your act together, or I might have to reconsider my support for this early access game if you can't meet all of my expectations. It's not rocket science; it's just computer science!

[flat brook]

How many times do you plan to copy-pasta that message?

[plain marsh]

is magical healing capped at 1 now?

[last pilot]

@glad thunder fix for the servers keep not saving gear fucking when?

[arctic cove]

Great job IM increasing mob density across the game is amazing, I definitely play this game to just kill the same boring PVE mobs over and over again. Yea you guys have made such a great intricate and intelligent mob AI that its just so fun doing so much PVE.

[fringe lynx]

is additional physical damage available on armor anymore?

[fringe garnet]

Does anybody know how to aquire the materials to craft the new Gold Coin Bag?

[steady zodiac]

go play greed is good weirdo

[trail dock]

@arctic cove you are named after WoW, don't talk about pve games and bad AI LOL

[steel kettle]

Anyone else experiencing fighter heal not healing after using it?

[fair thistle]

make shadow runner give 15 flat move ment speed permanently innstead of 15% out of stealth

[frank delta]

No reason to have nerfed fireball damage.

[narrow barn]

is there a way to refund the game?

[nocturne sinew]

Will we get our stuff back after the rollbacks fixed? I lost so much stuff bruh

[gusty pollen]

Is there any eta on when they're dropping Druid?

[sleek holly]

Bard dissonance skill tooltip reads: "Creates an unpleasant noise.." and requires you to hold an instrument to use the ability. However, upon using the ability, there is NO SOUND AT ALL. NO AUDIO FOR THIS SKILL THAT PROBABLY NOBODY USED ON BARD UNTIL TODAY.

[simple escarp]

I think spiders should have venom tick damage and goblins either bleed or no tick damage.

@narrow barn if you downloaded the game you're unable to get a refund

[cold reef]

Has the loot and gear disappearing upon extract been fixed?

[indigo ginkgo]

You should join and ask in the BARBARIAN channel!:!:!:!:!

[deft island]

nop

[formal moon]

1 out 5 extracts have actually extracted

[opal saffron]

No. Hotfix incoming who knows when. Probably down til late tonight I bet

[cosmic river]

Yeah the devs stayed up late to push out this patch

[austere plaza]

Devs don’t play bard man. That should be obvious by now

[tidal plover]

Felling axe if your not as s

[hardy juniper]

anyone know how to get "firefly's abdomen"?

[dull shale]

lol i love when i see a barb dumb enough to use a 2h

[arctic cove]

Hope you all enjoy spending 90% of the game just doing PVE, enjoy the patch!

[hearty dust]

These trade channels are fucking cancer

[small aurora]

game still shutting down abnormaly?

[urban hazel]

when was the last wipe?

[foggy jay]

prolly kill the flying bugs

[prime needle]

did they change something that mde people pvp less?

[hardy juniper]

death beatle?

[mild hull]

Who thought it was a smart idea to give warlocks who wan kite for ever with curse of pain 15 movespeed boots ??

[limber badge]

If you play goblin caves there's more mob density and less pvp as the lobbies are 7 people now, instead of the 9 it was before. But I like HR Goblin Caves maps so it doesn't bother me too much.

[molten laurel]

I mean the game is fun regardless

[foggy jay]

no the ones that spit poison probably

[urban falcon]

same here, i'll be done till they fix

[bright ravine]

we lost everithing when i go to red portal

[peak adder]

these devs really seem to be losing it lol

[urban hazel]

when was the last wipe guys?

[hardy juniper]

oooh the dragonflies?

[clever orchid]

#server-status message
and yeah, it's being weird for me too. i get Unreal Engine error popups and/or the game launches but crashes when loading into a match.

[charred vortex]

My gsme is taking so long to update wtffff

[quasi kindle]

papa stop kicking me out

[robust mica]

Yeah this what happens when the trash devs steal a game and try to build off it 😂

[clever orchid]

looked like a 9gb+ update xD

[civic goblet]

yea. terrible decisions seem to be the order of the day here

[peak adder]

@civic goblet Really reminding me of tarkov updates right now

[indigo ginkgo]

Wow, Rogue is complete dung now, can't do dung, it's done!!

[queen finch]

anybody know how to fix the black screen when launching the game

[soft flare]

There is something seriously wrong with the perk that lets you walk when you're stealthed as rogue. I'll have ten steps but the first always knocks me out of invisiblility. What gives?

[foggy jay]

ye

[limber badge]

Are you crouched or using shift to walk?

[sand quartz]

Need to be crouching or shift walking

[civic goblet]

Ironmace , why do you hate rogues?

[clever orchid]

well, guess i'll have go do the other thing i use this computer for... (*￣Ｏ￣)ノ

[prime needle]

guys why do these doggo devs not know how to code

[brittle knot]

what drops dark matter

[knotty kernel]

They all play ranger

[peak adder]

@indigo ginkgo @civic goblet yeah starting rogue is so hard to kill pve now.. i don't know why they nerfed the damage so much along with all the over nerfs

[civic goblet]

loool

[charred ether]

please bring bard back please idk if i have to get on my knees and pray but please they do nothing to ranger this game is all bout rock paper scissors and u just comple remove paper and buff scissor

[knotty kernel]

AT this point I'm waiting for them to release Dark and darker: classic

[bitter linden]

Anybody know what the portal in the outskirts of ruins is? Static exit somewhere?

[ivory cedar]

just took blue out of gobbos, lost everything lol

[frank delta]

Meh, i've played 15 games, only lost 1 set of loot on exit.

[peak adder]

@ivory cedar isn't rollbacks fun?

[quaint rain]

welcome to whats been hapeening

[civic goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[flint surge]

put those gold ores in goblins map aswell, stop forcing use solos to play ruins...

[supple mica]

Didnt even get rolled back, just lost a kit we had before the match xd

[peak adder]

Also, I thought they wanted to slow down the game but they made gear progression even easier with the traders always having greens/blues/purples. Now everyone can just rat a round or 2 then buy gear that stomps starters like wtf are they doooooingggggg

[knotty kernel]

Just remove Crypts and Ruins at this point, its a solo game.