game-discussion

[real kindle]

I’ll wait for the day when your class is nerfed into nonexistence and kept there 😉 Yeah make it more skill/strategy dependent but not a freaking scavanger whose only opportunity to kill someone is to either be outgeared AF or use the 20s hide while praying that you get a perfect position and manage to kill a squishy class before cleric turns around and full heals it.

[soft flare]

That's intentional

[runic isle]

what? You did not get your levels reset ?
I'm reporting you, cheater

[fallow prawn]

Most people don't have only one class, so this wouldn't really bother most players

[icy pond]

it happens every other week. last was rogue week, wiz week before that. there will be hotfixes devs know bard is over nerfed. for now just enjoy your 1 week without buffball bards in every game. play cleric or ranger or smth good and chill its all g. if previous hotfixes are any example bard will be op again in 3-5 days anyways.

[stone walrus]

did GC on wizard and cleared an entire room then took the portal that spawned in my room, got out and lost all inventory.. rip 8 minutes and 230g

[untold wasp]

warlock can summon hydra then curse of pain it for infinite heals, was this intended?

[gritty vine]

you do not gain anythinf from it

[humble wyvern]

Imagine thinking the game is purely a "team" game, and everything should be based around that...Can't argue with people who are entitled to their way of playing and can't understand there's other modes in the game. Not everyone has a team to clear the PvE for them when they're SOLO!

[errant steeple]

Both my mains have been nerfed. Pretty much everyone except fighter, cleric, and warlock have had significant nerfs now

[junior bane]

Please fix crashes

[blazing gull]

any1 else have the problem failing to connect to server when getting into the game

[warm rune]

People are so thirsty for kills right now its kind of sad

[earnest current]

Have a bug lost all loots , and meet a hacker ( luo001 ) Bard has a basic attack lock skill where once hit, the opponent cannot move or attack, adding a new hack from hackers.

[fluid maple]

fighter doesnt need a nerf because it's so weak currently

[real kindle]

I have 5classes leveled up but a person may still have their preference, no? I just have to be a meta slave? I mean it does not make a lot of sense if you butcher a class so much it can’t pve or pvp 😂

You can pickpocket or 3rd party someone at best. That’s legit the only way to play rogue atm

[kind badger]

[urban dirge]

When the game was initially released the devs said balances would be made around team play and that solo wasn't a concern of their. They only made a solo dungeon because solo players complained so much.

[hot crown]

fighter was not touched again. lmao balance is messed up in this game

[arctic cove]

Cave troll still bugged will instantly go from one attack swing to another

[atomic raptor]

i can't update

[sage pike]

Best spells for cleric??

[minor prairie]

when druid come out? did they ever say?

[errant steeple]

Weird take bc in solo rogues we’re even more dominant. You missed the point about have you don’t have to pve at all. Run by everything get to a good spot and wait for the easy kill in a nonfight. That’s all it was. If you were trying to pve as a rogue you were doing it wrong

[gilded minnow]

anyone else think its a stupid change the weapon guy doesnt sell like burner shit anymore? at least not for me. sucks running warlock after a death with just staff

[desert bobcat]

anyone have the old vs new armor/weapons values graph?

[dry stump]

solo play or team play?

[snow echo]

What would y’all recommend I run as a lvl 1 warlock?

[nova cipher]

depends if ur solo or team

[urban dirge]

Maybe they are balancing the other classes around the fighter. You need a point of reference when making balance changes otherwise there is no balancing.

[earnest current]

Because solo mode is where you fight 1vs1 regularly and know what is wrong or too strong, not having 3 people and taking turns buffing dozens of buffs and then being invisible with haste.

[boreal island]

Game feels good so far, tested rogue, wizard and barb all pretty nice

[subtle heart]

📉

[rocky ore]

Just get rid of ranger entirely. Down syndrome class

[north bay]

😂

[warm basin]

Ranged weapons in general have too much damage too quickly

[wind pollen]

FOR MY CRAFTERS - where do u find spidersilk ( @ or dm me )

[snow magnet]

it was fun while it lasted earlier
now everyone is giga geared again

[rich wadi]

They got indirectly buffed too

[soft flare]

Lesser Heal, Protection, Holy Strike, and Divine Strike are oretty much staples. Last slot is personal preference but people tend to run earthquake

[snow echo]

help

[sage flare]

Why doesn't the game work? It won't even let me put the password of the account!

[obsidian mural]

How does one craft these bigger bags?

[real kindle]

Not everyone plays a rogue fully dependent on sitting in a corner for 5minutes and ambushing someone. But you’re clearly not looking for balance and you most likely got outplayed by rogues for months before. That’s why you’re just spouting hateful comments with barely any logic.

[oblique hound]

best warlock starter spells?

[compact moon]

How is mage supposed to 1v1 barb or warlock? Spells have no range to actually use, barb can just reduce distance

[mild shadow]

Boring with no interesting characters

[raw hare]

So, why the nerf for Daggers but increased armor rating?

[deft lintel]

Invisibility, zap, fireball, etc.

[subtle quartz]

@compact moon you kite

[limber badge]

Ice bolt makes Barb move so slowly

[icy pond]

join the warlock channel id:customize

[urban dirge]

It's literally a rock paper scissors game. Not every class is supposed to be able to excel in pvp against every other class. That's why they don't make balance changes for solo gameplay.

[soft flare]

Unsure since they added a whole ton of spells for Warlock but Hellfire and Curse of Pain are staple

[errant steeple]

That’s what gc devolved into over time. At least 2/3 rogues played that way. Anyone with a brain saw it. They dominated leader boards and were the most pick class by a landslide in the weeks prior to patch. That’s objective statements. If you don’t like it then keep living in Ignorance that’s on you

[sonic falcon]

WHY TF AREN'T VENDORS SELLING GREYS? EVERYTHING IS 25 GOLD MINIMUM

[raw hare]

@urban dirge you shitting me? They nerfed rogue due to this.

[hot crown]

@rich wadi of course they did. lol

[oblique hound]

thanks

[compact moon]

warlock has no icebolts, also they can dodge it easily
@subtle quartz thats the points, its supre hard to kite, you charge spells 3s and in that time barb just comes to yuo xD

[atomic raptor]

anyone else having problems updating? im stuck at 0%

[urban dirge]

They nerfed rogue because they were exceling outside of their intended purpose. They were 2-shotting frontline fighters.

[limber badge]

You asked how mage can 1v1 barb or warlock, though

[zealous sparrow]

Bug when logging into your account on the website?

[mental glade]

does anyone know how can I speed up download speed

[vapid oyster]

pay for better internet

[soft flare]

Ah yes, my Terabyte internet cannot handle a 9GB update.

[rich wadi]

Try vpn

[compact moon]

its one spell fight, you can't kite, you just shoot one spell and he reaches you in that time when you charge spell xD

[hollow lion]

Can you block spells like chain lightning?

[urban dirge]

The barbarian is a hard counter to the wizard. That's why he has higher magic resistance than the fighter. If he gets ahold of you you deserve to die.

[hard path]

U can block it unless it bounces over to you

[vapid oyster]

think you replied to the wrong person lol

[subtle heart]

dont try block a fireball

[midnight bramble]

where can i check how much damage wizard spells do?

[soft flare]

Nah, just trying to emphasize that internet speed definitely is not the issue

[wind pollen]

dam people are already super kitted just running normals with all attributes

[compact moon]

Warlock has range for 10m, but anyway how you suppoed to fight someone hiding behind pillar or wall?! you just can't xD , you can't kite, you can't do anything other then risk getting chased, mage is a bit better cuz he has fireballs

@limber badge yes, how mage can 1v1 barb or warlock can 1v1 barb xD simple

[sleek fulcrum]

how long until wipe

[limber badge]

It's a VPN thing, proton is free and safe. Set it to Japan or Netherlands and you're set

[vapid oyster]

worked fine for me, what if tub has shit internet

[subtle heart]

about 15 minutes

[bold stream]

Anyones game crashing and getting rolled back?

[soft flare]

Even if they did, there's still something wrong with the launcher regardless

[real kindle]

An assassin class based on PvP dominated the kill leaderboards? No way man 😂 tell me you ain’t living in ignorance yourself.

Honestly, I don’t see a point in having a discussion with someone who thinks that previously powerful classes should be made practically unplayble as means of balancing.

Remove the invisibility so that all of these woke snowflake players stop crying their eyes out but make it playable. I dare you to go and try playing a gray rogue pve or pvp wise. You need 6-7hits on a simple skelly and 10+ hits versus any class with decent hp (warlock, fighter, barb, cleric), while even rangers take you at least 7-8hits. MEANWHILE you’re getting 2hit by every class in the game.

#Ignorance

[violet nexus]

not really

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very boring, i am forced to nothing

[limber badge]

Not sure what to tell you, I frequently kill barbarians with ice bolts because it makes them slow to a crawl. For Warlocks, fireballs do tick damage and make their health spells very dangerous.
Also why on earth is this chat set to two minutes?

[sonic falcon]

Where is the good treasure at in goblin caves my gamers?

[umbral mantle]

I really hate the giant spiders

what the heck is the 5 seconds of not being able to attack

[hollow lion]

Ive blocked magic missle for the most part but ive heard you can block chain lightening

[brisk lava]

https://i.imgur.com/keIofm4.png WHY DOES THIS HAVE WILL LOL

[fair dew]

where do we report bugs ?

[dry stump]

Centipedes, and the huge room that has a goblin mage in the middle. I'd you clear that room there's hella mob/chest/coffin loot

[urban dirge]

Goes back to the whole balance changes are not made based on solo gameplay thing. Not every class is supposed to be able to solo any class without issue. It is a rock paper scissors game and each class is a counter to another class. That's why the recommended team size is 3. Warlocks are countered by rangers and barbarians and used to be countered by rogues before rogues were overnerfed. That will likely be fixed at some point. Warlocks can destroy fighters and clerics and bards. Right now Warlock is actually stronger than intended with certain builds, so those will likely be nerfed at some point in the near future to put the class back where it should be.

[vapid oyster]

welcome to the game new friend

[warped belfry]

Good loot no longer exists

[subtle heart]

i think if youre the first one to be hit yeah, as HHH said 🙂

[violet nexus]

man im struggling with those lobbies full of locks

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame

[low talon]

The problem with this game is not the game but the community

[wraith imp]

Can we get back 9 player lobbies in GC? Pvp is dead there.

[wooden bluff]

facts

[urban dirge]

Warlock is the flavor of the month. They'll be the most popular class for a bit, which which help the devs see where they need balancing changes. That's why the game is still Early Access. We are helping the devs find where the game needs to be retuned. Every time a class becomes substantially more popular than other classes, it tells the devs to take a harder look at that class.

[proven monolith]

It seems are is close faster the swamp on ruins no ?

[willow rampart]

I'm personally having issues with the game loading up it seems. Getting a black screen after hitting play and logging into the launcher took a while. I assume there's some known login/connectivity issues right now? Just looking to see if others are having the same issue.

[subtle heart]

Yes, please. My biggest complaint so far, especially since they added the bigger HR maps to normals

[wraith imp]

I played about 20 rounds of GC and had exactly 2 pvp encounters. This is boring as fu...

[torpid bluff]

is goblin cave always gonna be the HR variant now?

[naive gale]

what is gold powder for?

[hollow lion]

Do pavise and shields on your back catch arrows and bolts?

[timber oasis]

Negative Toni

[subtle heart]

sprinkling on your cocaine so you can feel fancy

[delicate yew]

After 10 hours of letting it update, I have gone up 3%

[magic gale]

fighter still meta?

[thick pond]

Bros so mad he sent his message to early

[atomic flame]

no one asked lil kid go suck on your pacifier

[pulsar galleon]

How’s da balance update guys

[warped belfry]

Rendered the game pointless

[rapid arrow]

It's good. People are upset from change (big shocker) or getting upset their class was nerfed and x class wasn't nerfed enough.

[wind pollen]

vpn netherland

[plain marsh]

warlock isnt as fun anymore. this update is a bad update.

[subtle heart]

Yeah, 13+ extractions and the only interactions I had were with a few timmys

[frigid saddle]

most brainded thing magic stuff 4 shotting barb xDDDDDDDD nice developing

[sage ferry]

Why is my game only at 10 precent after downloading as soon as the patch started

[subtle heart]

im really enjoying it 🙂 lot of people complaining, but they tend to find something to winge about regardless of what you offer them.

[willow rampart]

A VPN will actually really help. I was able to download the update in about 5 minutes thanks to using one.

[pulsar galleon]

Mixed bag of chips eh. Well I guess I’ll see for myself if I can get enough schoolwork done after work

[urban dirge]

Solos hate it and the groups are too busy playing to come in here and say much.

[warped belfry]

They did, and were always easy to dodge

[rich wadi]

How's the crypt maps? Do they have that huge arena now in the regular roller lobbies?

[fresh cliff]

lul dodge arrow

[weak pebble]

what happens when i fall in the middle in GC treasure room? was the last circle and there was also a portal but didnt wanna risk anything so i took the portal next to me

[subtle heart]

guess youre a solo then

[copper wave]

imagine thinking stacking additional spell memory is a fun interactive thing, take this dog thing out of the game

[rapid arrow]

Lmao if ur dying to green longbows ur just bad. You don't see rangers going "omg I can't win melee. Make the ranger have super strong melee or nerf every other classes accuracy with a sword!"

[urban dirge]

Nah I'm about to go to work and don't have time to play. Also I don't have an opinion on the changes because I haven't had a chance to play yet.

[tight elbow]

skeletons spawn, there is a ramp back up too

[placid ibex]

just got out with an inv of trinkets and was the same as before i went in, bug or?

[soft flare]

Sadly the VPN doesn't seem like it worked :/

[gritty vine]

STORE RESET AGAIN NO LONGSWORDS I will spam this CHAT EVERY DAY UNTIL I CAN BUY LS AGAIN!

[hasty sorrel]

bro I'm not gonna lie these devs are MID they nerf fireball and wiz still 3 taps me shooting my feet with it on warlock, 0 counterplay to a grey geared wizard, amazing design

[weak pebble]

ok good thing i didnt jump in there then

[old onyx]

Are we not supposed to be able to go 10 spell warlock? Is that a bug that I can't apply spell memory to both slots?

[lofty arch]

Is it true that the base magical healing on Warlock is 0, making the vampirism perk useless until you have magic healing items?

[warped belfry]

Why are we going in to extract loot that does too little to bother?

[brave storm]

Mine downloaded over night np

[inner glen]

any specific region for vpn that works best? mine doesn

[subtle heart]

well, as a solo goblin enjoyer. Im very much having fun with this update 🙂 i think its a lot of nice changes and a step in the right direction.

[tight elbow]

They changed it so you can't just fill your stash with grey weapons, you need to buy something good now

[urban dirge]

Bro just adapt and find a new playstyle. There's more than one way to skin a horse as they say. Spamming in here won't solve your problem.

[vestal silo]

ok i hate the new merchants

[gritty vine]

LAME I WANT TO BUY LONGSWORD, I i do not care, it is my only fun to calp full items players with a LS grey LET ME PLAY MY WAY!

[livid citrus]

[subtle heart]

Yo how are the download speeds for you guys :(

[warped belfry]

Yes now I will just watch YouTube and wait for another item in shop

[fresh adder]

My game doesn't have an update on chaf games but dark and darker tells me incorrect build version

[tiny umbra]

aka, they removed the only real equalizer for classes with terrible gear

[rapid arrow]

This might be the dumbest change in the game

[subtle heart]

For solos they need to remove/fix the HR map pool and make it 10 people again

[lofty arch]

Does the soul collector perk work as intended now?

[pulsar galleon]

Oh do items disappear after purchase now? Idk how I feel about that

[formal moon]

Massive L patch

[dry stump]

They always have. It's the specific grey weapons that don't.

[urban dirge]

It sounds to me like the changes to merchants was to affect the power creep and make it harder to amass gold and gear up from the trading post. Sounds like they're encouraging crafting, too.

[tight elbow]

I think it is kinda good it means rangers aren't all running around doing 100 damage head shots with a grey long bow

[warped belfry]

Agreed, game is going in the wrong direction

[tiny umbra]

The removal of grey weapons only serves to consolidate the wealth gap

[rapid arrow]

I'm fine with that but the bow was already nerfed. The ranger without a longbow isn't that great of a class. I'm more concerned about the melee weapons because short sword might be the most useless weapon in the entire game

[flat haven]

Why would the ranger have good melee 😂😂

[young linden]

It’s always worked it’s just that there were no forms of dark magic damage to use it

[lone moth]

what do I use rotten fluids for? I don't see anyone I can sell it to, am I just stupid?

[river fog]

f u ironmace

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am force out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS

[formal moon]

Have you seen ...
Every dagger latlely

[urban dirge]

I'm pretty sure the whole point in the ranger isn't to knock any class from a distance, but to pester the casters and control the flow of the battlefield from a distance. Insane damage was never the intention for that class.

[warped belfry]

They have fighter and cleric perks in D&D so why not?

[dense nexus]

Anyone gonna tell me why they lowered player count on GC which was a good change but couldn't be asked to change spawn proximity? That was the whole freaking point. First game someone rushes me within 10 seconds of spawn. Yawn.

[scarlet spindle]

anyone else having a second or twoof delay with everything in game rn?

[tight elbow]

I really like that the maps change now, and it is fun to play high roller GC rooms without the zone creeping so fast

[limber badge]

I have hundreds of longswords. Every merchant is longswords. The collector's portrait is a Longword.
Envy me.

[rapid arrow]

Oh no. The class that goes invisible and is meant to be a sneaky thief is bad at melee fighting? Oh no. Also what's the point of this argument. Instead of "yeah the short sword sucks and so does the dagger. It's not fair how you just can't engage in melee at all" it's "my class is even worse than yours". It's not a competition.

[main raven]

The Short Sword doesn't even suck lol

@lone moth I saw a crafting item that needed that. What did you get it from?

[lone moth]

So no one knows what the rotten fluid item is for?

[somber patrol]

did they take +weapon dmg stat off gear and accessories? I've only seen weapons with +1 weapon dmg in trade

[hard rock]

Just extracted and didn't keep any of the stuff I got

[weak owl]

So I am guessing from the convo that they really didn't fix rogue and he is still a pos garbage class they nerfed into the ground for carebears that complain too much... got it.

[obtuse atlas]

feels pretty bad, yeah

[formal moon]

You're right. Cause rogue won the competition to the bottom and no other class that can use the ss has any real issues

[dense nexus]

Wrong. Rogues agree it was too good it's that IM "lords of balancing" refuse to give them any other viable way to engage in pvp. You can't even run away bc rogue is so slow. A torch is better than a dagger now and fists do significantly more DMG. Its a joke

[urban dirge]

From what I understand he got nerfed even more.

[kind halo]

Just went to hell kicked out of lobby and my inventory wiped GG

[limber badge]

Easily the worst class in the game currently. But pickpocket is very viable lol...

[oblique badger]

whole team got boote to lobby and lost full gear + inv after taking red portals

[main raven]

I saw a White Castillon and a Blue Castillon that had identical damage lol

[warped belfry]

Funny af rogues have to use a torch for a weapon now

[copper wave]

DOG servers holy fk

[magic gale]

dont lecture me with your 19 dollar haircut boy

[lone moth]

Picked it up from a zombie, didn't see anywhere I could sell it and it is a blue item so I guess I can only craft with it?

[rapid arrow]

Fists attack much much slower tho. U can get 3 dagger hits off before hitting the second punch. And I don't disagree. Do I have the answers? No. But I don't disagree that some classes get nerfed too hard

[weak owl]

really cool of the devs to lower the time need to refresh the ranger ability too... cause we all know ranger needed a buff 0_o

[fast mesa]

why does my game say i have 171 million gbs left to update lmfao

[formal moon]

It's funny how ppl think 15s of stealth is so strong

[dense nexus]

That's a feature! Wait for upcoming server issues and lose your inventory that way next. It's great!

[urban dirge]

Yeah lol. They're closing the gear gap by increasing the lower spread on stronger gear The point is to increase TTK so every class has the opportunity to fulfill their role in a fight before the fight is over. With the previous gear fights often ended before one team even realized they had started.

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am force out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS

[hallow shore]

Hey guys didn anyone else experience a bug where they died but didn't lose their gear?

[cursive bramble]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am force out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS

[mystic agate]

crashed! woo hoo! nice servers!

[hallow patrol]

You sound like a baby

[warm basin]

Hell bugged right now ?

[copper wave]

can this company get anything right?

[main raven]

Yeah its a crafting component.

[sage ferry]

why does this update take so long? 10 hours and its at 10 precent

[formal moon]

IM must not be playing thr game them selves anymore. Cause they're making bad moves left and right

[jade wing]

How to get the higher tier coin purses?

[dense nexus]

IM doesn't realize that while dabbling in other classes is smart to learn the game: I play rogue. It's the first class I played in a MUD when I was a kid. They had several abilities and perks that made them unique aside from ambushing and I don't want to play another class simply bc IM is too lazy or not good at being devs.

[fossil wren]

crafting

[rugged vigil]

guys which is better for archer now quickshot or multishot?

[limber badge]

All you do is whine and complain yet stick around and still play
Are you a masochist or just a squeaky wheel yearning to be oiled?

[mystic agate]

I have 20+ clips of just crashing and losing full set. Permanently on "Connecting..." from home screen... can't even play

[vivid grove]

Skill issue

[lone moth]

ok good to know. I have never crafted so I wouldn't even know what to do with it, into the stash it goes then until I figure that out lol

[copper wave]

barely playing buddy, came back to check the new patch and still they havent got their sht together. Keep stalking my life booboo

[fair geode]

guys tehre is not initial damage in curse of pain

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am forced out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS

[warm pike]

I thought they didn’t wipe levels?

[limber badge]

It's hard to miss you when you're here crying about it every day yet continue to play
Just weird behavior to be honest. Usually people stop doing things they don't like.

[vague trellis]

Anyone got any solutions to extreme rubberbanding? (like omega bad)

[thick cradle]

new gob cave is so bad

[pulsar galleon]

Okay but are the 7 new emotes good or are they soulless

[random swan]

Stop crying ffs rogue is gone ok it’s no longer a ninja assassin just a ninja now, deal with it or switch classes 😆.

[urban dirge]

I'll just say I was afraid to fight Rangers with multishot back before they all started running quickshot instead. Multishot slaps point blank, which is where rangers typically struggle anyway.

[copper wave]

valid complaints nerd, keep bootlicking

[rugged sentinel]

so, how can we block spammer now if we reach the maximum people in the block list? :/

[magic gale]

can soul drain not be used on pve at all

[slow coral]

Hmmm just came out from a GC with full inventory, got reseted as if I didn't went in. Anybody else?

[patent niche]

Honestly such a good update, still some minor tweaks required but so far it feels great

[weak owl]

So they nerfed the daggers again from 13 damage, in the "rebalancing"?

[formal moon]

They won't nerf rangers, because rangers are the largest part of the community

[mystic agate]

They just did

[young gyro]

rogues were 60% of the community before nerf, trolls need to get out of here.

[charred oasis]

how i can change my class on discord?

[strange elk]

i think most people were rogue since it was viable as a solo

[thick cradle]

wrong fighter are

[vague trellis]

Anyone got any solutions to extreme rubberbanding? (like omega bad)

[wraith imp]

They just made the GC map bigger but the lobby with only 7 players, so that you dont run into pvp encounter anymore. I guess its Ironmace way to balance pvp issues.

[urban dirge]

Wait until it isn't patch day anymore and fewer people are hogging the server's resources, probably.

[scarlet spindle]

extracted and got wiped back to basic gear and empty stash lol

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am forced out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS

[subtle heart]

Yeah, GC are incredibly boring. The only way to get around it is to fight trios or duos in the other maps

[formal moon]

Not really. @young gyro try 33%. Eu is 75% ranger. Go read the info the devs posted.

@wraith imp and pretty much deleted rogues

[digital isle]

Yo wtf! I got kicked out from the loading to Hell and I lost all progress me and my team made!

[alpine warren]

GOOD JOB ON THIS PATCH! the dupe bug is back

[magic gale]

how do i quick sell valuables

[tulip cloud]

They didn’t make it bigger they just added HR map into the rotation. Some people like it personally I don’t enjoy HR GC layout, especially spider room that shit sucks.

[pulsar galleon]

Kek

[worn fog]

yes

[ruby fox]

what are golden keys for again

[dense nexus]

god i love having a block button. smoothbrains in here

[opaque niche]

any fixes for the horrible laggy stuttering

[restive prairie]

nerf ranger and warlock 1 hit kill me with a blue falchion

[rugged spire]

i escaped and only have my gear i brought into the match.. is that common to lose entire inventory?

[serene mica]

HR map is all about the spawn, if you spawn in the room with the exit, just farm up and call it a day, easy 300g

[mighty ermine]

any advice for slow update?

[alpine warren]

between this bad patches and the idiot mods allowing disgusting behavior in discord might be time to reverse charge the game.

[limber sable]

you ni||ce ca||r

[charred hill]

where do you get gold ore

[somber patrol]

Did they take +weapon dmg stat off gear and accessories? I have only seen up to +2 weapon dmg ONLY on weapons. Can anyone confirm this

[twin urchin]

Is the only way to get troll hide the cave troll?

[tulip cloud]

Yeah I just hate spawning in spider room with grey gear and playing hot potato with spiders and death beetles. Any other spawn I usually do fine that room just really starches my britches.

[swift trail]

is there any goldore outside of ruins map?

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am forced out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS

[serene mica]

mods.... can we get 1min timer back again? this shit switched to 2 minutes outa no where last night. wasnt even spammy. maybe give us a 30s timer? people wanna actually discuss things and 2 minutes is absurd.

[subtle heart]

Second this, where is gold ore?

[wet turtle]

Iron mace is literally up there with team cherry ngl. You shouldn’t take the nerf personally, the games in early access.

[worthy cradle]

Has there been any changes to weapon animations? Rapier feels slower

[tulip cloud]

Bro ffs do a couple runs so that your shop resets and quit acting like a child.

Also yeah mods give us our 1 minute timer pls the chat ain’t even spammy

[lofty ruin]

WHEN THE VENDOR CHANGE STOCK ?? THAT TIMER MAKE NO SENSE I WAS ABOUT TO BUY SOMETHING THEN IT DISSAPEAR

[limpid merlin]

really hating the hr gobbo map in normal rotation

[serene mica]

6 messages in 2 minutes. guys. cmon now

mods! reduce the timer

[midnight canyon]

amen

[smoky gazelle]

hell is bugged af

[azure ether]

@zinc sparrow fix rogue plz rogue do no dmg like is very shit i dont know why you guys nerf he is dugger plz fix it

[fast mesa]

wait they only wiped stash not lvls?

[opaque niche]

is everyone just playing with this unbarable lag and dealing with it im so confused

[hallow patrol]

your the only one lagging

[slim glen]

no lag for me in the dungeons this am

[misty stone]

guys, what potion of luck is better? what does each one¿?

[pulsar galleon]

Change the slow mode timer please I read this shit while I steal company time at work

[tulip cloud]

The vendors change stock every couple runs. Play some games and breath air bro. Life ain’t so bad.

[lofty ruin]

yeah i know but they should have a timer, when the stock change. the actual timer doesnt indicate anything

[magic gale]

can i cast life drain on any PVE at all? i have found none

[steady torrent]

Just did a gob cave run and my loot didnt extract, anyone else have this happen or just a fluke

[halcyon epoch]

JUST SAYING THAT U CAN SPELL THE HYDRA AND HEAL YOURSELF!!

[urban dirge]

All the one-trick pony-rats are super pissed about the vendor changes today

[burnt tendon]

just happened to me extracted with full inv and got nothing from it

[winged prawn]

I was all excited to see there was going to be more merchant stock. Like sweet we will just be able to buy a nice grey kit. Fucking nope. Heres a buncha of overpriced bullshit and no availability of greys

[scarlet spindle]

yeah happened to me every exctract currently

[digital isle]

Yeah same.

[spare elbow]

If you go hell every run it usually resets every time

[tulip cloud]

I’m pretty sure that the merchants switch every 30-45 minutes other than play runs. Also like @spare elbow says just do a hell run. It’s not hard resetting shops

[fallow hound]

Worst patch of all time, mediocre economy, and loss of meaning in the game, in killing bosses, the worst map for a solo game. And the disgusting balance, It gets worse with every patch, roll back to the second play test, it was better there.

[modest canyon]

IM needs to overhaul hell so it’s not so cheesable

[jagged summit]

is anyone keeping their shit when they die?

[brisk lava]

hr gc map is so bad ffs

[urban dirge]

Yeah apparently increased vendor variety means decreased chance of finding what you want.

[midnight canyon]

well its not bad.... just dont put it in normal....

[limpid merlin]

ya its bad

[lofty ruin]

i know it changes im not talking about that. im saying it should indicate how many minutes are left to stock change. cant you read you tell me to take air an do hell runs im no talking about that

[formal moon]

Idk, IM seems to have lost the plot on the game

[winged prawn]

Everytime something like this happens i think to myself: A group of people sat around a table, talked about this, gave it the thumbs up, happy about their decision.

[south granite]

this -game ended abnormally- thing is ass

[wise wagon]

yeah i have that

[tulip cloud]

They literally just added a bunch of crafting items, uniques, and economy balances like the new 500 gold bag and 3000 treasure box from hoard to incentivize killing bosses. What are you smoking bruh?

[subtle heart]

Some kindly barbarian gave me a handcrossbow and offered the final portal to me. Wonderful 🙂

[trail scroll]

struggle with CHAF Game update ?

[hallow flicker]

Is the castillon dagger not available from the merchant anymore or am I just getting unlucky?

[main raven]

Purple Rondel does 17 damage rofl

[bold stream]

it seems if you go hell you will get kicked out and roll back

[thorn path]

Why do the goblins seem stronger?

[worthy fog]

Have you tried breathing fresh air

[urban dirge]

Because weapons are weaker

[civic fog]

The fact that ration has no slow is a fucking travesty.

[scenic hornet]

Ok I dont think I enjoy this patch lmao sad

[tulip cloud]

Wait you’re kidding me ain’t no way bruh tell me it ain’t so 😭 @hallow flicker I’ve seen some Castis in my weaponsmith so I think you’re just unlucky bro bro

[lofty ruin]

i try but im asthmatic

[winter goblet]

If it's like before, merchants reset every 30 minutes. Once at top of hour, and again at half past.

This may have changed with new patch

[misty tree]

Did they reset levels

[fallow cloak]

Why is everyone so aggressive today. Running gc everybody is out for blood and 3/3 games I've come across pairs teaming blatantly

[main raven]

I just saw it in the Weaponsmith. 200 Gold for a dagger that has four less damage than a White Rapier lmao

[lime shuttle]

how do you change role? i dont play rogue anymore

[fluid trench]

Rogue is dead

[cosmic quail]

W patch honestly. Anyone complaining at this point needs ranger therapy. new shop is dope af. so is crafting. warlock now dumps on rangers, just crouch behind hydra.

[novel hawk]

nice, extracted and no loot was carried out 😦

[unreal obsidian]

game crashed while joining a game..lost all my gear

[burnt tendon]

would be a great patch if we were able to extract with loot

[sonic solstice]

does curse of pain stack?

[magic gale]

how do i heal with life drain it didnt work on npcs

[fresh sedge]

I cant even play the game the lag makes it actually unplayable. Have to reinstall and see if that works

[azure siren]

oof I wish all the goblins didn't naturally have poison lol, getting hit already is painful enough

[limpid merlin]

id be fine if normal caves were back. dont like hr map

[tardy spindle]

same I left through a blue portal in the goblin caves and got none of my loot

[lofty ruin]

yummy rogue tears

[scarlet spindle]

goblin mage still as annoying as ever

[tulip cloud]

Yeah I think they have a “one size fits all” pricing system where they base it upon item rarity. Hopefully that’s a low damage roll and not the standard damage because if so… yikes 😬

[hard rock]

So what's going on with the bug where toy extract and you don't get any gear?

[abstract valve]

RED Portals Buggeed we got rolled back 1 game twice now

[urban dirge]

Is it only goblin caves reverting inventories after extract or are all maps doing it?

[pure minnow]

stop shutting down server when people going down red

[winged prawn]

I love having to pay 141 for a blue longsword with +knowledge. While selling blues for 6 gold.

[brisk lava]

warlock doesnt dump on rangers lmaoo

[main raven]

Warlock dumps on Wizards, but definitely not Rangers

@tulip cloud I saw a White and a Blue Castillon that both had 17 damage lol

[heavy python]

go to trade?

[untold wasp]

warlock with 2 magic healing items can summon hydra and curse of pain it for infinite heals, was this intended or not?

[scenic hornet]

To make them useful ?

[elfin ember]

the menu lags the game to 1-2 fps for anyone else?

[tardy spindle]

the door on the goblin caves gave me my loot it was just the portal that didnt

[quasi sundial]

So that there is incentive to run them

[lofty ruin]

is good lanterns make u faster because you can see where you going ??? now the economy is based on good rolls not on blues or puples. i think i started to like this new system

[tulip cloud]

Because nobody was actually using lanterns and were just selling them lmao. I’m here for it an actually good offhand option is nice.
@mr.luigi. The worm spawn in Ruins has gold nodes

[cedar nymph]

how do we get gold ore?

[amber sky]

what about protection potions?

[winged prawn]

Lanterns are in the game because they wanted rapier bards/rogues and Horseman axe barbs to be able to run you down faster obviously.

[urban dirge]

Now we just need to be able to bash people in the face with it and inflict burning

[digital isle]

Find gold ore deposits, some I found were on Ruins

[formal moon]

L patch

[analog vigil]

CONSOLODATE ROGUE PERKS NOW

[lofty ruin]

even better no barbarian running full blue potions across the dungeon. now you have to kill wizard that is the fighter and barb counterplay to get them

[hallow flicker]

Why no castillon dagger in the merchant? Sucks for slayer fighter

[tulip cloud]

No keep Rogues weak we like them crawling around in the dirt
@untold wasp It’s even more broken with life drain definitely unintended will probably be patched out soon

[untold wasp]

asking again, warlock with 2 magic healing items is able to summon hydra and curse of pain it for infinite heals, was this intended or not? is this mechanic or exploit?

[novel plover]

i have not caught up are rangers still disgusting op?

[weak owl]

yep

[vapid oyster]

my dad works at iron mace I'll get right back to you lol

[plain pollen]

Bro wtf do these devs think theyre doing

[mental latch]

Fill out a bug report for red portals!

[lofty ruin]

devs play ranger

[fluid trench]

The rogues guild is in shambles

[spare elbow]

Sounds unintended i bet it gets patched quickly

[timber eagle]

I just got glitched into a high roller lobby?

[misty stone]

new potion of luck is the old potion but cost 150g, this devs smoke weed?

[raw bloom]

i give 10 days

[urban dirge]

Still a better game than GiG

[fresh adder]

Was the game wiped?

[warped belfry]

half assed wiped

[undone oak]

Project crawl has more future

[serene mica]

maybe. maybe not, need + stats to make it work. base of the combo doesnt even fully heal back up

[novel plover]

wait dont tell me they messed up the game even worse

[magic gale]

ur fighter ur fine

[thin badger]

so solo is now 7 people.. and theres 5 bleu portals.. and 2 gates to escape.. why even fight

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am forced out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS

[lofty ruin]

devs play ranger

[drifting hinge]

Please make this circle alittle slower? its just a maraton from start to end

[dawn elk]

Has anyone extracted and had their inventory rolled back to what they entered with?

[urban dirge]

Yeah rangers needs an ammo cap or something. They can pick their arrows back up they don't need 100 of them.

[spare elbow]

They added a circle so that you arent pressured as far each circle, but circles are probably faster now since there are more in the same time frame

[subtle heart]

I just lost so much stuff from hell bro I loaded out and didn’t keep anything but armour I went in with

[warped belfry]

pvp dead, gear is dead, what are we extracting for now? =Entire premise of the game has been destroyed.

[lofty ruin]

is good dude is way cooler to have a lantern as lightsource

[serene mica]

so, did anyone else notice SDF is no longer in the discord?

[novel plover]

not a meta fighter only longsword so how am i fine

[dawn elk]

this just happened to me. File a bug report for it so they can see.

[fresh sedge]

is anyone elses game an unplayable laggy 5fps experience or is that just me? cuz i got a suped up pc and its running like a potato

[jolly tartan]

is curse of pain bugged? It doesn't seem to be doing the initial damage it is supposed to do, just the dot

[gray charm]

@serene mica sdf?

[serene delta]

5 ray of darkness to kill a mummy, lmfao. Ranger could have shot me with 18 arrows during that

[magic gale]

3 damage a second 💀

[potent horizon]

the dev

[nova plinth]

Can we just get a full wipe not this shitty stash wipe ?

[raw bloom]

game feels fucked up

[drifting hinge]

Well if he left its probably because the non stop whining

[lofty ruin]

you can kill it with one blow of corruption just dodge the arrows if you can

[serene mica]

its also bugged and doesnt heal right either -.-

[hard rock]

How do I farm the named items?

[gritty vine]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am forced out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS\

[azure siren]

What would be the point of a full wipe? The devs need people to test skills/perks. Wiping levels does nothing to help that

[verbal hinge]

i mean instant leveled character is not that big of a different tbf

[warped belfry]

his name always disappears, means nothing

[sharp osprey]

No?

[sacred meadow]

i cant open my game from my descktop help me

[glass comet]

i woulda quit too after 5 min of reading this discord

[odd mango]

I read patch notes but don't see why it matters if you're under 15

[raw bloom]

LET ME BUY GREY LONGSOWRDS, MY STORE HAS NO GREY LONGSWORDS OR GREY ITEMS
it is very lame i am forced out of my playstyle and the only reason i play this game is to clap players with LONGSWORDS\ truuuueee

[serene delta]

ray of darkness not even worth using, waste of spell.

[magic gale]

life drain doesnt work on PVE does it? havent gotten it on anything like goblins or centipedes

[nova plinth]

It added abit of progression i felt it just added another objective to do. Just makes the game a little more boring imo

[warm rune]

Its pretty good if you get curses on them then chase them with the beam

[serene mica]

it works, but breaks the ability the second you move. absolutly useless

[ripe meadow]

Rhyme of the Rogues
They don’t want us to creep, they don’t want us to crawl.
They don’t want us to brust, we have no damage at all.

We thrust and we rupture, but we can’t even kill.
Our hide doesn’t last long, because of low will.

Another day as a rogue, we load up the mines.
We decide to change classes, because rogue is just bad times

[last iris]

new reg GC modules from high roller?

[untold wasp]

what is the point of making rubysilver gear when they have 3 stats, same as regular purples?

[neat moon]

SO MANY SKELETONS

[magic gale]

why not just play fighter only

[normal reef]

I've had a couple of extractions but with no loot

[grave stratus]

What about inferno mode for goblin cave with final boss with loot up to the same as 3man?

[azure siren]

I mean you can just delete your character and restart it - there would then seperate you into the pre-15 and post-15 player lobby matchmaking; if anything there should've been 15-20 level content added for characters if it was available.

[meager timber]

did they make it so warlock hellfire doesnt heal you when the target has pain? I tested it and it doesnt heal you anymore, is this a bug? or did they remove it?

[frail spire]

Think it's a fix not a bug. The wording of that talent makes hellfire healing seem unintended

[oblique badger]

warlock's 3dmg/sec curse is not doing dmg rn either

[meager timber]

they prob broke him again, having a curse on something that was getting hit by healfire always healed you for doing magic dam, idk why they would remove that

[weak umbra]

because they are normal purple, the only difference is that you craft them. now its totally pointless, just buy a purple for like 100 gold from merchant

[frail spire]

I think the point is crafting the gear to use it 👍

[untold wasp]

and for some reason cleric can wear rubysilver currias but cannot wear regular onem yes because ironmace

[gusty wedge]

so now torch is faster than fists?

[weak umbra]

just like warlock can wear cobalt templar. its dark and darker so i would not expect anything fleshed out

[snow echo]

Why tf r ppl so geared alr?

[hard rock]

No point in crafting gear tbh

[cold field]

LOOT absolutely got buffed and merchants sell good stuff

[subtle heart]

Easy to get gear

[warped belfry]

because it was never hard, only problem now is that there is no point in getting gear

[slow zealot]

is there really people duping alrdy?

[jagged summit]

doesnt work can confirm i've tried

[frail spire]

Never really has been, other than looking cool

[sturdy lark]

High roller hell bosses

[weak umbra]

because you can buy purples for 100 gold, or just find them in dungeon because they drop like greens before the gear drop buff

[hard rock]

But bosses are impossible solo

[brisk lava]

2nd gob map is 💤

[gray charm]

2nd gob map is pog

[upbeat crown]

anyone else getting booted out of HR GC lobbies?

[lone ether]

What was the several other changes and this crafting that mentioned sorry at work so haven’t played yet and I’m just wondering

[opaque niche]

where do i make a ticket

[golden umbra]

does anyone stutter and lag a lot when they play?

[frail spire]

Bard got destroyed for one dead class now

[fast mesa]

game looks so weird now lol

[unreal vessel]

wtf is this, i just escaped from a dungeon and all my gear/loot rolled back, i have the same stuff as when i entered in the dungeon

[warped belfry]

jesus, this is so stupid. Guess i am waiting to see what the next patch does

[nova plinth]

Deleting your char kind of defeats the object of leveling it up in the first place though you get me :D. I do agree though more content needs to be added

[weak umbra]

bard destroyed, all gear meaningless. that's why they didnt listed it, probably even they couldnt belive it

[twilit kindle]

cant get any good gear goblins are way to strong 75% hp gone in 1 hit like wtf is this unplayable for anyone thats new to the game

[elfin ember]

what is the fix for the insane interface lag

[pulsar galleon]

Not the lutey boi

[copper wave]

bahbaha facts

[lone ether]

Meh doubt it’s destroyed but thanks everyone can’t wait to test it all out my self…also bard wasn’t my kind of class anyways maybe for me it will be good now lol who knows :p

[marsh mulch]

rogue feels so bad jesus

[brisk lava]

maybe for melee

[frail spire]

It's 100% destroyed , even more destroyed than rogue tbh

[warped belfry]

the point is to not get hit, what you are describing is your first lesson

[scarlet spindle]

lag is so bad right now, unplayable

[opaque niche]

^^

[subtle heart]

download more deditated wam

[ivory dragon]

the new goblin cave map is bad..... its like the pve in there is way too much because by the time the first area your in is cleared zone is on you and pushing you into more pvp and pve and its stupid because its for new people to learn in too and by making it bigger and destroying our fps you make it hard for a new player to learn the map and game
why high roller existed was for experienced players

[static cipher]

IM THE FINAL STORm

[normal reef]

nah once you know where everything is you get soooo much loot

[burnt tendon]

FIX UR GAME i cant leave with any loot been like this for over an hour

[half token]

any one else die and not lose anytthing they brought in?

[coral pelican]

anyone else having their loot disappear when leaving the crypts as a 3 man? happened to my group twice in a row just now

[graceful aurora]

Goblin caves are not for new people it's for solo

[frail spire]

Goblin caves shouldn't be free 200g extract per round like it was . I think it's fibe

[unreal vessel]

this tilted me so hard.

[brisk lava]

it still is

[thin badger]

5 tps 2 gates.. almost impossible not to escape GC.. and yes pve is bit much.. if you spawn in the wrong area gonna take a while to get to the other side

[subtle heart]

also disagree, i thoroughly enjoy the new map with the variety.

as time said, its solo. not "new players".

ruins is much easier for new players imo, theres a gathering hall built in the game. find another new guy and try enjoy yourself

[regal moth]

does anyone have any tips for someone starting warlock?

[buoyant fern]

Merchant changes are a HUGE W!!!!

[ivory dragon]

no sir ruins is for pvp goblin caves are for learning and practice 200g isnt alot bro and i think it was just fine lol but its more less its way too much pve on the map to do anything......soloing is how you learn better

[hard rock]

Not to mention the extaction bug

[warped belfry]

huge loss

[frail spire]

Nah. Ruins is the easiest map always has been.

SOLO extract shouldn't be free

[subtle heart]

^^

[thin badger]

the pve is just getting a bit tedious and it makes me wanna run through it and ignore them but thats not a good idea

[opaque niche]

merchant changes crushed the player econemy and made the game so easy that even the worste players can get good gear now

[plain marsh]

They killed warlock 😦

[bleak echo]

anyone else getting sent back to lobby when you take red portals?

[pulsar galleon]

Hell machine broke

[limpid lantern]

yes and loosing all gear

[jagged badger]

Great, so if they're so bad, kill them and loot their gear

[tawny badger]

where was it posted that they removed all sorts of stats from gears including +2 and +3 attributes?

[bronze walrus]

did they fix the bug where it puts ur weapon away after every attack:

[stiff wedge]

did they buff armour rating on fighter/cleric heavey pieces?

[austere jewel]

That was 2 patches ago @tawny badger

[warped belfry]

exactly, there is no reason to play the game at all like this.

[ivory dragon]

lmao yall full of cap it wasnt free but now as you said it basically is i can stay in one corner fill up on loot and dip without any other interaction rn thats bs but if i wanna go pvp in it or go further i gotta go through hell basically they made it easier and more encouraged to rat and not do anything

[urban dirge]

From my experience the worst players are the majority of the playerbase. Really can't be surprised if they are the ones who get catered to.

[subtle quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/ousama-ranking-bojji-crying-tears-anime-gif-25041411

[subtle heart]

do americans even have the capacity to know when their wrong ?

[twin urchin]

Bro I’m so upset they nerfed clerics super robo mech! At least the rpg got a buff in damage. I hope they bring the jet pack back for cleric too since the hoverboard just isn’t cutting it for movement.

[onyx talon]

Just extracted from Normal GC, this happened to me. All loot disappeared after taking portal and returning to main menu.

[bleak echo]

i keep my gear i went with but thats it, but happening twice in a row kinda makes me not wana waste my time

[winged prawn]

Me looking at a blue long sword with magical interaction for 140gold. Yeah... super overpowered equpment in the merch now. How will you survive

[limpid cairn]

why the hell cant i just buy grey weapons anymore

[plain marsh]

Who cares about shit like player economy when the noobs you farm now have good gear

[sweet jay]

EMERGENCY HOT FIX ‼️‼️

[jagged badger]

Exactly

[bronze walrus]

good thing the patch took 7 hours just to break the game

[pulsar galleon]

Things are going wonderfully

[lone ether]

So what’s arming swords starting dmg for all gray fighter

[limpid lantern]

im even loosing my gear too. and all inventory items

[idle snow]

Anyone else get rolled back from previous game?

[urban dirge]

GC extracts seem to be busted atm

[reef island]

It was in announcements a few patches ago

[plain marsh]

So eldritch shield is really strong in warlock v warlock. Completely blocks blow of corruption

[junior pecan]

what materials do you need to make the Gold Bag? I see the ingredients, I just dont recognize what they are

[sonic tusk]

anyone know how ot make the update work? stuck on 1/53 just started

[pastel pewter]

So they announce a patch for Tuesday. Patch ends up dropping Wednesday and now lots of stuff is broken. Do they not plan these types of things?

[dusky sparrow]

Ones a wolf pelt others troll pelt

[faint cypress]

does anyone elses aim lag behind their mouse like when i flick fast it takes a while to get to the point i flicked too like there is a speed limit on turning speed?

[opaque niche]

idek why we play their game they dont deserve us

[limpid merlin]

why is notmal gobbo 7 ppl now

[urban dirge]

They probably have their code team doing architect work too, which delays everything, and they aren't architects.

[earnest current]

3 time LOST ALL LOOTS after get out the dungeon FIX THE BUG DEVSSSS

[warm rune]

People already trying to flip for 1250g

[unreal talon]

Lost all after a raid, just when I got a cloak with +3agi +1 all +2% damage bonus

[frosty rain]

is there any info when does DaD launc on steam?

[subtle heart]

spit on it a little, and give it a good old rub

[hardy siren]

LOST ALL MY LOOT. TOO I SENT BUG REPORT. SEND YOUR TOO

[pastel pewter]

@urban dirge so my next question is, why did we pay for this game? Where is our cash going if not to more staff

[vapid oyster]

employees are paid one time and that's it lmao

[lapis bison]

Anyone have a full list of changes?

[pulsar galleon]

They haven’t even added a playable catgirl/boy race yet

[austere sentinel]

Current staff get payed too. You don't just go to a store with a wad of cash and pick a new employee up

[urban dirge]

Purchasing any title in EA is always a risk. At least this team didn't abandon the game completely and run away with the money like some companies do.

[lone ether]

Gray arming sword dmg

[serene mica]

many of us bought the game on prinicple, simply to assist with IM legal funds for dealing with nexon.

[earnest current]

i send in bugreport 3 time , Counting the number of deaths, it was more than 10 times. Every time I exited, I lost all the loot, but the 3 times I lost it all, I lost more than 700 gold for all 3 times. It was like wasting my effort in vain.

[hardy siren]

and i die in the dungeons, let me guess i wont get my gear back too.If i escape, i have no loot. If i die. i risked my gear for nothing BS

[warped belfry]

They have alienated their target audience though. this game wont last another month

[dusky sparrow]

Their core audience is the people who've been playing since the playtests

[analog vigil]

where tf is the troll in the GC combination map

[urban dirge]

That was half my reason. The other half was to play again because I had the itch real bad after the second playtest ended.

[shadow widget]

Doubt it

[subtle heart]

Game is dead

[buoyant fern]

NEW issue I just found? I escaped last map. but lost everything I came out with????? My inventory is what it was when I went in??

[orchid jacinth]

Fellas, I bring one suggestion to the fold, warlocks should be able to VOIP through Evil Eye. Imagine the ranged trash talk possibilities

[cunning kettle]

been happening all morning

[pastel frigate]

There’s also a spell capacity bug w bards

[sturdy lark]

The only way to get in Hell is trough the crypt which is a 3 man dungeon

[brisk lava]

WHY DOES THE WHOLE LOBBY SPAWN IN THE SAME SPOT ON NEW GC MAP WTF

[steady torrent]

I'll see you next month in the Dungeon

[dapper pier]

You whine a lot about how this game is ruined and the concept of it is destroyed, why are you even still here at that point? Lol

[lone ether]

Meh the game is bad says peeps crying it’s a good game let new patch settle lol

[warped belfry]

I doubt either of us will be playing

[hot talon]

Speed up the barb swing my god why am I swinging in slow motion, not even realistic.

[soft burrow]

I left the dungeon by a blue portal and lost all of my loot and got only things I went into a game with. Anyone has the same problem ?

[zenith cave]

Oh! The centipede has a new attack. It runs away and leaves a poison trail

[subtle heart]

yeah had it happen once

[urban dirge]

They need to disable GC until the inventory wipe bug is fixed at least. Has anyone confirmed it is also happening in other maps? Sounds like Hell is busted too.

[jagged badger]

A lot of these people are pathetic and addicted. There's thousands of games to play. Or go outside

[subtle heart]

Hell

[vapid arch]

just played a game and extracted and it didnt count somehow? i just have the same items i brought in

[plucky cradle]

Anybody else got roll-backed? @glad thunder

[fast mesa]

dang rogue is complete garbage now lol

[barren minnow]

I dont see how player economie got crushed
yes bad items are no longer worth as much but good items to remain ver much sellable
also the items on the merchants have relatively high costs for what they are unless you happen to spot one with good Entchantments

[austere sentinel]

I guarantee everything will be changed again anyways. This is patch #1 of early access... come back in 1 week, maybe less and there will probably be another hot fix

[warped belfry]

Because I purchased it nimrod, I have a right to be upset about it. I payed for a punishing hardcore looter, I did not purchase this easy mode free extraction game.

[rare tulip]

i lost all my stuff leaveing trogh a blue portla

[indigo ginkgo]

Does the game suck less now with the new update?
Are there still Purple Caped Crusader Teams in the Crypts beating on white geared scrubs for giggles?
Can a triple Ranger Team WTFONESHOT every other team and player with ease?

[jovial island]

is anyone getting kicked when trying to go to HELL

[urban dirge]

Which map? @rare tulip which map?

[daring dove]

same, my party member died but he kept his stuff

[vivid fjord]

Garbage update lmao

[dapper pier]

You purchased an Early Access title that is subject to change however the devs see fit, you’re the reason they have the EA warning on steam, you’re not entitled to what YOU think the game should be, that’s not how it works.

[sleek dirge]

Anyone else instant leave new gc map? SMH

[opaque niche]

merchants reset every 30 mins so ALOT of chances for good rolls on cheap gear

[solemn epoch]

Anyone else extract and then they have NONE of the items? Like I still have my kit, but I just left gobo caves and got none of my loot. Had a full stash

[vapid arch]

regular goblin caves but the HR map

[waxen zodiac]

still no friends list... wtf

[rare tulip]

the 2 player map ruins @urban dirge @vapid arch

[warped belfry]

Its not what I think it should be, It is what I bought. The literal description of the game and its core features are not subject to change just because it is EA

You casuals are the ones changing things to what you think it should be not me.

[indigo ginkgo]

The new Anti-cheat updates stopped you from Duping items.! Yeah!!

[pearl jungle]

Anyone know where to find the gold ore?

[severe locust]

anyone get a popup saying they temporarily dont have access to the game because they used an unauthorized program? I'm kicked out of the game for 71 hours apparently

[honest trellis]

So where do I report teaming

[urban dirge]

Okay so there's verification the issue isn't isolated to GC, at least. That's a start.

[vivid pendant]

yea at this very moment the game description should change, it's advertised as "unforgiving hardcore", would be nice for it to be that way lol

[subtle heart]

science bitch!

[solemn epoch]

What duping!? I just did a full gobo cave run lmao. It took FOREVER to load into the map so I'm wondering if that has something to do with it

[dapper pier]

Literally everything about Early Access titles are subject to change, my man you need to get a grip. Just request a refund instead of uselessly saying how destroyed the game is and how it’s no longer the game you want.

[unreal vessel]

same thing happened to me

[barren minnow]

You purchased a early acces game
Early acces means the game can still change a lot

@opaque niche I mean if you check every merchant every reset for all classes (if you dont use it you can still trade it) then yhea i guess its not bad for Greens and maybe blues
Purples are still somewhat rare thought
but yhea i did not quite consider the every 30 min reset
maybe that could be increased a bit seeing how they now have basicaly every item always (Exept for healing items)

[austere sentinel]

They are probably having some database server errors related to the update making people not get their gear... I bet everyone who has extract problems has something similar in their inventory that is bugging out when it tries to save on extract...

[jagged badger]

If I remember correctly, Rust ported over to an entirely new engine at one point during EA. Everything can change, and these people are delusional

[warped belfry]

no it isnt, quit lying. you don't see any game changing their entire core lol

[serene mica]

"you casuals" im sorry do you make money doing this? are you a gold farmer? its a god damn video game kid. go touch grass.

[ancient jetty]

Anyone else having issues with Bard's Music Memory Priority not working, giving you random music?

[urban dirge]

Let's just hope the devs are also scientists. I'm a scientist but not a dev which is why I get paid so little

[solar turret]

Fortnite was a PvE zombie game in early access

[fathom iris]

anyone else not able to go to hell they just get reset in lobby

[frail spire]

They didn't change their entire core man. Over exaggerating.

[barren minnow]

I mean Early acces does mean they can change the game from the ground up.
thats why Early access games on most storefronts have a Warning that you receive the product in its current state but whatever happens in the future is just something you gotta guess

[dapper pier]

I’m not lying, you just don’t understand what Early Access titles really are it seems.

[weak umbra]

i mean its an extraction looter in which loot doesnt really matter, its changed a bit i think

[warped belfry]

casuals= people whining game is too hard and it not fair because they dont have free time. Yes you casuals

@solar turret and that mode still exists. the BR was simply added to it

[earnest current]

so you play game or game play you ? this is extraction game where you survive and take out the loots

[urban dirge]

Is crafted gear objectively better than found/storebought gear yet?

[honest viper]

There is one spawn in goblins cave that is horrible. In low floor were is full of stairs and stones for dig, a wizard spawn very close and I was closed in my spawn zone, with a wood barricade for crash but I dindn't had time for scape and the wizard only needed 2 fireballs from top floor to kill me at 30 sec game 😦

[unkempt wolf]

Does anyone know what the gold powder is for?

[frail spire]

Loot is still powerful you just have to get good rolls and stats and less purple weapon auto wins though @warped belfry @weak umbra.

Legendaries/epics w multiple good rolls are still very powerful and impacting. Artifacts still broken

[floral onyx]

Yall wanna fix your servers so it stops kicking us out and resetting? Would be great, thanks.

[subtle heart]

snorting

[vivid rain]

anyone had a bug where they extract and lose everything?

[austere sentinel]

Yeah apparently it picks the wrong songs to give you access to. Or maybe the spell priority is wrong. When on the pick song screen it is supposed to prioritize songs left to right from the bar on the bottom, but looks like maybe it is going right to left?

[solemn epoch]

yes

[gilded minnow]

any miners know where to get gold ore?

[ripe meadow]

ban all teaming, just watched 6 players came together on ruins, would rather see my granny get cancer than play a game like that

[wild pilot]

what are rotten fluids used for?

[limpid merlin]

weapon crafts

[barren minnow]

I mean loot is pretty much everything you pick up
So saying loot doesent matter means theres not realy a difference between a fresh spawn and somebody thats decked out in full legendary gear with uniques
Thats when loot would not matter but untill then loot does matter

[dapper pier]

Poison spear craft at weapon smith

[inner elbow]

but how can anyone look at warlocks and think rogues are in a good spot? seriously wtf?

[earnest current]

im lost 700 gold for 4 game get out and no loots in inventory

[warped belfry]

it is also pretty much free, no more excitement

[dense nexus]

RANGER STILL BROKEN A.F. CAMP NO SKILL CLASS WOO!

[vivid rain]

yeah just happened to me, thats gamebreaking holy.

[subtle heart]

but yeah you can make gold ingots now with the armourer or whoever takes them, in their services. Like the cobalt ingots.

no idea what the gold ingots make yet 🙂 id assume its just money

[alpine sky]

does the rogue's stealth perk work with invis potions?
Ik that the description says "when using the hide skill [...]", but am just wondering

[urban dirge]

If they make the crafted gear objectively better than most found equipment then that would change the power creep substantially and give loot a different priority.

[serene mica]

and just like you. other people bought the game and have given input. those inputs have changed the course of the game, quite literally, get over yourself . most "hardcore" players are rerolling charas at 15 just so they can farm that glorious gray gear off of noobs, very rarely do you see "hardcore" players playing high roller. they are always in the "core" game smacking on lower geared players.

i got a hint for ya. thats not hardcore. thats weak.

[dapper pier]

You can make a ring and necklace with the gold bars, both give luck along with a few other stats, they also require a few other materials

[gilded minnow]

where u find gold ore

[high jewel]

Really true imo

[round pulsar]

whats the point of making the mobs more dense when the room is already tiny as it is and the moment you open a door even if they on the opposite side of the room and they immediately lock on to you like really whats the point and like dont tell me that im just trash like i had 12 mobs and i counted lock onto me right as i opened the door to the new room

[warped belfry]

none of that is even true

[austere sentinel]

Gold ore is in ruins

[weak umbra]

still mostly doesnt matter, i didnt saw a named Item in this patch but its probably what, 5dmg more than white? without god rolls gear is useless, and every roll is nerfed. maybe named items with 5 rolls are okay, but they are named items. even if you roll +damage and armor pen on a purple sword, its still +1 and probably like 3% armor pen with 3 more dmg than white, what's the point in gear when the difference between almost the worst rarity and almost the best is like 1 hit when just trading blows?

[subtle heart]

fucking never has a truer word been spoken in this chat

[leaden zealot]

Is there a place where I can report bugs?

[fast heart]

In report a bug section

[serene mica]

by tags alone. you are wrong. go touch grass.

[frail spire]

1 all attr greens are still owning , magic dmg on wiz or phys dmg on barb or healing on warlock all still strong. It's not limited to God rolls at all. It's just less auto win vs Grey noobs

[sturdy plover]

Yea I think some of the alternate goblin cave maps feel a bit tight, I think they should be made larger vertically, default goblin cave map has some nice roof space

[wide drum]

Hey, i just escaped using open exit, not a portal, i have seen it first time. But didnt get any loot?

[dense nexus]

Ranger just two shots you as usual before you can do anything to close the distance. Oh and don't forget they refuse to nerf slow on bows or alter equipment change time so you get close and just get rapiered or speared to death. Very interactive gameplay IM

[warped belfry]

no it isnt, guy has no clue what I am even talking about and just making up nonsense

[round pulsar]

i can competly understand that thye should of made it sligthly bigger not saying to big but slightly bigger

[weak umbra]

another funny thing is that they removed +3 all but now you can buy +3 all items in the merch because base gear stats are stacking with rarity

[lofty ginkgo]

Iron mace. I am begging you, give us a grey weapon shop. Now there's even less chance of a grey weaopon of choice being in the shop. I am so sick of arming sword

[leaden zealot]

I don't think I can see it in discord - Is it on the website or in-game?

[potent horizon]

bru a warlock just did 75% of my health with one curse of pain, I understand that its not easy to make everything balanced but this is just unbearable to play

[vague sorrel]

why does someone with metal gear (fighters) have the ability to outrun things like rogues / warlocks / wizards who wear clothe?

[serene mica]

just look at your profile... vs mine. see the joined dates? i know exactly what im talking about buddy.

you havent provided 1 iota of information other then "hes wrong" like a toddler when accused of eating chocolate

[frail spire]

Players that farm leggos / Artifacts are rewarded. Players that just buy purp weapon and go roll noobs in pre 15 are punished. More basic gear is more accessible but high end gear is still elusive

[copper wave]

welcome to the competency of this development team

[vivid pendant]

wow really ahahah

[crimson edge]

did we loose our loote with this update?????

[warped belfry]

So why are they buying games and not reading the description of what the game is before they buy it smart guy?(you arent smart at all)

so you have been on the internet for 2 years? whats your point besides proving you dont know anything

[remote sail]

does the hand crossbow have ammo by default or do you have to buy bolts

[fast mesa]

man this game went from being 8/10 to 2/10

[steady torrent]

Are extracts still broken? Wanna do a run real bad lol

[urban dirge]

IIRC it comes with 1 bolt but I could be wrong

[subtle heart]

i think its you who is the confused one here mate

[unkempt wolf]

Thanks boss 🙂

[hallow flicker]

I've been playing for 5-6 hours and haven't had an issue

[serene mica]

early access, many of us get in on these games SPECIFICALLY to influence development.

go check out greed is good if you want to see what a casual version of this game looks like,

@ Mods can we please for the love of god get 1 minute delay back

[jagged badger]

Seriously, most people don't understand that if every piece of gear you're wearing provides like 2% damage bonus, or flat 1-3 damage, then you're now hitting for twice the damage someone in gray is. There's no skill at that point. You're basically a God among peasants just in Stat check

[dense nexus]

Here's the GC experience for rogue: PVE the entire time bc all your weapons do joke damage. Then run into another player and die

[crimson edge]

all of my loot is missing from my character everything

[warped belfry]

no Im not, I bought a game based on the description. That description is no longer true. Im not confused at all about that

[maiden echo]

please just let me stack enough +dmg and + healing on lock to lifedrain tank people - old school SL/SL warlock vibes

[barren minnow]

Yhea 5 more dmg sure
default stats 32 dmg
The names has 44-46 +20 additional magic damage on hit
thats without any prefixes
Also you can around 50 prefixes on all gear total (assuming you are very well equiped in each slot)
so lets assume its all just like +1 dmg +3 armor pen
thats +11 dmg +22 health 33% armor pen + 10 strenght (10% physical dmg amp as well as another 20 health) and just for good measure another 20% bonus dmg due to each piece having pys power as well
on top of the Inherently better armor ratings etc
Totaling 32 dmg compared to 75dmg +30% and also 42 healt and 30% armor pen even without considering base stats
How did i calculate it i took the lower floors of rolls and added it all together
are you gonna have gear like that Unlikely since thats full legendary/uniques
is the difference a measly 3 dmg Nope

[peak crypt]

“smart guy (you arent smart at all)”
I am actually fkn dead.

[brisk lava]

NERF CROSSBOW DMG

[delicate solar]

Do you have a screenshot of such item or just assumptions?

[subtle heart]

They did already lol

[modest canyon]

Are the artefacts just uniques or what

[lone ether]

What is hydra like?

[serene mica]

lifedrain is dooky, need to be able to move while channeling it. otherwise its really bad

[marsh mulch]

buff daggers please they are worthless

[short copper]

just died in raid and came back to lobby with all my gear that i entered in with before raid, anyone else have this problem

[frail spire]

I mean you're free to prefer previous gear system, but pretending it is "completely changing the core" in early access game is just over dramatic

[crimson edge]

so without any warning they wiped all of our inventory????

[subtle heart]

well shit, if i knew the £25 meant that much to you. id refund you myself

[warped belfry]

So you just make a hobby out of ruining games. got ya

[jovial island]

@crimson edge there was

[icy pond]

I think they're confusing having 3 of a stat with +3all.

[sage pike]

we need a way to add people as friends

[limber verge]

Either trolling or brain dead

[serene mica]

your complaint is the game isnt hardcore.

my counter argument is the game is plenty hardcore,

go check out greed is good if you want to see what a casual version of DnD looks like. thats what GiG is, a casual version. the ttk is much longer, the fights and dynamics are different and more catering to a casual crowd.

entitled child

[lone ether]

What’s hydra like

[patent vigil]

Haven't placed yet is there something wrong or are people wining about wipe

[peak crypt]

wait what? What ruined the hame? Lol @icy pond it seems like it might be possible for a shadow mask to have a white +3 all because other items are rolling 1-3 on their white stats. I thought i saw one earlier, but on second check it was a +3 str shadow hood

[modest canyon]

They said that they’re hopeful they’ll be back on steam eventually so it hasn’t been a priority but that they might make it one since it might be a while before they get back on steam. That’s all we’ve got tho

[gusty kindle]

static turret basically. it aggroes mobs and reveals invis, so pretty useful

[warped belfry]

you mean the hardcore, punishing part is not changed? I can still extract ya....for free

[frail spire]

Mostly agree but Finishing every post with an edgy insult doesn't really breed a productive conversation

[warm rune]

I hate all the people flipping on trade nobody is trying to pay 1000g for stuff right now.

[analog vigil]

bro this combination GC map fucking sucks

[fiery sphinx]

Can we get the option to see damage numbers on enemies

[subtle heart]

I don't think the majority of players even can

[delicate solar]

No, he specifically typed +3 all, so I'm curious. It's the first thing coming from this guy's mouth that has some value and really affects development, so I wanna follow it up.

[dusky sage]

Is inferno working? We tped there and it crashed us to lobby and restored characters to the state before game

[serene mica]

i dont care to be productive with entitled brats.

[subtle heart]

The scrubs on trade are the worst. It's the only reason I want an auction house because people will sit in there all day destroying the economy because they suck at actually playing

[modest canyon]

I wish brotha.. greed is good is a carbon copy of this game and already has this feature lmao

[brisk lava]

FIGHTER CAN BLOCK MAGIC, RANGE, SPRINT, HEAL, USE CROSSBOWS NERF THIS BWAINDEAD CLASS

[gusty kindle]

i just love those guys selling +2% blue item equip speed for 400,500g. some players are so out of touch with reality lmao

[knotty spade]

Can someone link patch notes?

[frail spire]

It's just a cringe way to behave though man.

[warm locust]

wait so the "bard rework" is just another hard nerf

[sullen scarab]

They be taking balance tips from league of legends.

[warm rune]

Yeah that game is garbage but it has some things we need.

[weak umbra]

i said that named items are okay, but they are very rare so i wasnt talking about them.
+3 dmg was about weapon only, ofc you can stack some bonus rolls and stats on your whole gear, also its probably impossible to roll stats that you mentioned on all items that you can equip, its not that good and probably half of your gear will give you overall +15% interaction speed more than stats you said.

@delicate solar base gear stats now scale with rarity, if you have for example white leather gloves they give +1 Agi, when their rarity is green they give +2, so i assume that purple gloves will give you +3 agi. there are some items that give you +1 all, so if you buy/drop said Item that is purple, IT will have +3 all and you can even roll +1 all from bonus rolls added to gear. so you can now equip gear piece with +4 all

[fiery sphinx]

Its weird cuz the feature already exists for dummies i dont see why they dont just add it

[subtle heart]

An auction house would be dope just to save time. I hate sitting in trade not getting any offers, dealing with scammers, people trading them immediately cancelling, or people just trolling in the trade chat.

[plucky condor]

GOBLIN GAVES IS DOG SHIT!!!!!

[serene mica]

it also has a really well fleshed out trade/auction system. shared gold between charas and an amazing stash system.

DnD needs to take note of these QoL features
hell having an auction house system limited to 10 trades a time would not only be super easy to find the gold sellers, but it would be good for the entire economy

[subtle heart]

Yeah I would really love for the current system to work because it's... idk cool. But it just doesn't work sadly because of humans like always

[real leaf]

Hey can anyone help me out I’ve been struggling for days now I’m a new player idk the game I’m getting tired of getting 1-2 hit by everything pls help

[delicate solar]

Oh, so YOU ASSUME, that the devs returned +3 all... ok, so it's trashtalk just like everything else, thanks for clarifying.

[modest canyon]

I think it’s ok except for the fact it’s a blatant copy, it has potential. But yeah it has some serious QoL improvements we could use. I love the way potions work in that game

[elder quail]

i just made it out with a blue portal in GC and only the stuff i took in is still in my inventory wtf

[solemn epoch]

yeah it's been happening

[warped belfry]

You are the entitled one, with the hobby of ruining games. I just want what I payed for and am actually entitled to that.

[topaz furnace]

Ranger's Quickshot now fires a different amount of arrows based on the Bow type.

so exactly what does that mean?

[neat token]

games been stuck on 0% for 3 hours now restarted the launcher like 30 times still nothing thanks ironmace for the great launcher we have!

[subtle heart]

Personally, I think a grand exchange trade system like Runescape would be the best. It would be more immersive and less boring.

[weak umbra]

can you read? base gear stats scale with rarity, i saw a +2 shadow mask so this scales like every other stat on gear

[fickle crater]

Survival how shoots 4, recurve shoots 3, longbow shoots 2

[frail spire]

Not really you paid to test a early access game. You aren't entitled to anything. You got plenty of hours of fun alrdy . You got what you paid for.

[serene mica]

no, you actually arent, if you READ the actual TOS, we were only granted 30 days of service from the original launch of the game. that was RIGHT there in the TOS you agreed to and skipped right on by. you are entitled to literally nothing kiddo.

[winter lantern]

Hey all, looking for some enlightenment here: Do ALL warlock curses count as dark magic now? Have they fixed the issue yet where the curses counted as regular magic and didn't scale with the 10% passive?

[real leaf]

Idk why I keep dying to everything in 1 or 2 hits I’m solo goblin caves pls help I’m new

[modest canyon]

People still crying about ranger after quickshot nerf is weird and I HATE rangers. The nerf is pretty significant

[plain lion]

anyone else jsut getting constant rollbacks after taking a blue portal?

[quick dome]

how do i submit a bug? I just extracted from the dungeon and when i go and look at my inventory, its the same as it was before i went in...

[icy pond]

pretty sure shadowmask is the only item that rolls with +all as a core attrib. warlock+rogue item. not exactly a game breaking bug...

[jagged badger]

If you buy an early access game, you're entitled to nothing. For all you know, it could be a rug pull and they delete the game after crowdfunding. Stop supporting EA games if you can't handle that risk

[glacial hatch]

ranger didnt get nerfed because its not op

[grand kite]

NERF. THE. FCKING. ARCHER.

[frank crown]

guys were do i mine the shungite ore

[limber badge]

What class are you playing?

[narrow barn]

will there ever be a discount for the game?

[delicate solar]

Dark perks work, there are actual dark magic spells in game now. No, curses is other type of magic, dark perks still don't work for them.

[topaz furnace]

so they still have triple shot which is better anyway right

[warped belfry]

still making stuff up I see, have fun with your game with no challenge.

[neat token]

good luck been trying for 3 hours now the launcher just seems to get worse as time goes on

[arctic bluff]

Watch some YouTube videos particularly from @mossy drum

[rugged flower]

too many mobs in gc now

[serene mica]

go open the TOS and search for 30days. go ahead. ill wait.

[frail spire]

Have you killed a boss in high roller ever?

[earnest current]

im play fighter full plate still die after 2 hit from full grey gear , that call hacker dude

[wet fern]

@amber orbit cried himself to sleep last night after getting two shot by a basic kit ranger 😔

[real leaf]

Fr I go in 1 room and there’s like 10 things I gotta kill needa tone it down it’s solo

[icy pond]

can we all just block rattlehead stop feeding this miserable troll all he does is winge in chat. its been like 30 mins of crying now.

[karmic cloud]

it kicked me out of game again xddddd nice

[waxen zodiac]

WTF,WHY CANT YOU QUICK LOOT ANYMORE

[peak crypt]

And that’s just today

[limber badge]

Can we reduce this two minute timer to one minute PLEASE

[delicate solar]

Well, only white attributes are scaling, so technically there could be a +3 all shadow mask. And only shadow mask, cause no other item has +1 all as a white attribute, AFAIK.

[weak umbra]

blocking is for cowards, maybe just leave this server instead

[ionic crater]

focus on pulling one aggro at a time without making em all angry and kill them one by one, backstep after every hit and wait for them to miss swings

[narrow barn]

will there ever be a discount for the game?

[warped belfry]

a troll is not someone you disagree with. That guy replying nonsense is the troll

[plain marsh]

it's totally fine once you get some gear but damn

[barren minnow]

Alright if we exclude named items you drop 20 of the dmg on hit (Loosing the unique effect)
and talking about weapon only yes that does change stuff quite a bit since we are limitet to a single item
Still you can Roll + dmg and + True dmg and can roll + Amp (eother physical or magical depending on what dmg types you deal) if you deal both types (crystal sword rogue with poison etc you can also roll the same for the other type)
So lets assume medium rolls of +2 and +1
thats still around 14 to 15 dmg if we include basestats
and 3+3% (Amp tends to roll a little higher in my experience) if we dont include base stats if you only deal one type or +6 if you deal both types (And whatever the scalling of the weapon is)
is it gonna change a Fight dramaticaly
depending on matchup probably gonna change it bye 1 hit or so
but for most fights thats a considerable change since you rarely can take more then 4 hits (and longsword that i used as example usualy tends to kill in 2-3)
Regarding stuff like + Interaction speed
yhea that tends to be a dead stat but if every stat becomes top tier then loot becomes a little less relevant since gear will overall be much closer to each other)

[rugged flower]

i feel like doesnt fit the theme of goblin caves tho

[modest canyon]

Have you guys ever got killed by someone you recognize off of the discord.. feels bad man lmfao

[peak crypt]

Wym? You cant right click?

[earnest current]

trust me 35$ worth it just buy and play

[icy pond]

you said "the game isn't hc anymore" like 30 mins ago and since then its just been repetitive crying about how sad you are. its early access the game patches like every 4 days. if you dont like it come back in 2 weeks it will be different. get over yourself.

[earnest scaffold]

What? Goblin cave full of goblins is not on theme?

[frail spire]

So you have never killed HR boss, never held an artifact, but there is no challenge?

[lofty ginkgo]

My favorite part of the update is the fact it's now impossible to get starter gear. Weee, can't buy greys anymore

[serene mica]

jessus christ. i figured id search rattleheads chat history. dude been here less than a month and has 1500+ inputs. a random scroll of even his old shows

#the-tavern message

OMFG bahahahahahahaha take your own adviec @warped belfry

"imagine crying about balance in a game that just entered early access"

[rich wadi]

is barb FOTM now?

[summer cargo]

They wiped stashes with last update?

[vague sorrel]

DOES THE HEALING SHRINE NOT WORK IN THE STORM ANYMORE???? LIKE HELLO???

[jagged badger]

That dude is chronically online lol

[spice moat]

Press F harder lul

[rugged flower]

i mean that the goblins are easier to kill than skellies so makes sense it would be a easier map for newcomers but now that there is so many dense mob spawns which makes the map too hard imo

[plain marsh]

it really doesnt

[frozen trellis]

Anyone else get out of a game only to have all your items you looted missing like you never went into the game at all

[manic walrus]

Yes they changed it

[warped belfry]

That is not what happened, some guy just started attacking me. How is it crying? I don't need to get over anything. sick of scrubs turning every game into a snoozefest.

[modest canyon]

Goblin caves shouldn’t be easy. It shouldn’t be intended for noobs looking to gear up. It needs to be just as hard if not harder than the crypts

[peak crypt]

Lol why not? Maybe this was the devs’ way of redefining gobbo caves so it wont be treated as “noob queue” and less people will complain about how they can’t go in default.

[frail spire]

Anyone know what the new artifacts do?

[glacial hornet]

What spells should I run on warlock

[dense nexus]

and am I tripping or is there a 2nd GC map? I spawned in ruins like two-three times today

[weak umbra]

omg people are starting to look at your message history when they disagree with you i know it from somewhere you know... go back to reddit

[stark fog]

Read patchnotes

[celest harness]

Anyone else getting like no PvP in GC?

[ionic lotus]

6 players now

[lean sentinel]

can we stop getting kicked from Red portals without loot ty ?

[neat token]

how do i get my launcher unstuck. been like this for 3 hours now with no results at all

[warped cove]

what kind of damage is the warlocks spells?

[warped belfry]

not crying, stating facts

[plain marsh]

keep resetting your launcher until it works

@warped belfry they arent entirely wrong ya know

[jaunty spear]

YES

[dense nexus]

i see. its vaguely written

[peak crypt]

PvP removed apparently, lmao. 7 players, 5 portals and static exit. @warped belfry imo your facts are like, opinions, man.

[icy pond]

ya the pvp is a little lacking, im sure they will update it when people get used to the map. at least spawn rushing is mostly eliminated for now.

[serene mica]

im pointing out ol boys hypocriscy, hes only been here a month, and less than 4 weeks ago he was on the otherside of the fence . has no values, has no integrity, just a noob whos dealing with their first wipe. specifically a rogue main whos extra salty.

[frail spire]

O you are certainly a terminally online turbo Cryer on this discord. Anyone here for a few weeks or more knows that

[slow cosmos]

damn just took a blue portal in gc and none of my loot was in my inventory :'(

[earnest scaffold]

I don't know why you think gc is a beginner map. It is just a full map like crypts

[modest canyon]

When is there gonna be hotfix for the missing loot dafuq

[limpid merlin]

7 ppl on normal gobbo map is not enough

[subtle heart]

"terminally online turbo cryer" KEK

[jagged badger]

We should feel so blessed that @warped belfry has a reply timer

@plain marsh hit the nail on the head.

[plain marsh]

@warped belfry seems mad about the update because he had all this time to farm gear, but now that the noobs are able to get gear easily, he is having trouble beating them on more equal footing

[warped belfry]

you didnt point out any hipocrisy lol. what I said is entirely true

[tidal plover]

They dropped it to 7?

[rugged flower]

cause its easier to kill gobins than skeletons

[peak crypt]

Dude throwing a fit about extraction being “free” when it seems like extraction only works sometimes anyway. That sounds super unforgiving imo. Hardcore af.

[icy pond]

he cant make people in game as sad as he is irl; ergo the game is no longer "hardcore" and his life is ruined. if it wasn't for that damn merchant and his 100g blues

[serene mica]

and here you are, complaining about balancing in an early access game

#the-tavern message

[frail spire]

Have you ever killed a boss even on normal rattlehead?

[rich bobcat]

hey how do we ticket report bugs? i found a spot where u can get stuck pretty easy

[limpid merlin]

yes

[vestal ivy]

anyone else notice EVERYONE dying in the new goblin caves? I swear I have ran into three players in the last like seven matches

[serene mica]

#report-a-bug follow the prompts.

[warped belfry]

what? that does not have anything to do with anything I said. you are still making crap up

@h quit asking me stupid questions that have nothing to do with anything. I am not even the one crying in here. I make fun of those people and the too hard crowd.

[tender swallow]

The game is so unbalanced, some of theses devs should return to school

[rugged flower]

too many mobs too little player lobbies is the issue me finks

[peak crypt]

So that’s a no then, yeah?

[supple raft]

What classes would you recommend they take?

[subtle heart]

speaking like you have even the slightest idea of how to make a game

[crystal onyx]

Adding the items to the vendors owned the trading in this game

[icy pond]

sorry to say but it feels a bit like skill issue to me. i'm not good at HC goblin but i at least have seen the rooms once or twice. so ive been getting out of most matches, there's plenty of portals and less pvp now so.. learn to kill death beetles and dodge archers and idk how you die much after that.

[drifting hinge]

I feel rangers are very strong, you cant really get up close to them

[plain marsh]

i think the new gear is a little overtuned at merchants though. i'd like to see a lot more green gear for sale and no purples. but overall the change is good imo and puts the game in a better state

i think the warlock changes make the class feel bad. honestly, if they just made torture mastery work on all ticks of dark magic, it would be better. maybe that's a little overzealous. like you shouldnt heal on hit for the bolt of darkness spell

[frail spire]

Well you consider yourself a hard-core player. But seems to me your more a casual who spends his work days stirring up shit on this disc, goes home, doesn't attempt bosses but cries there is no challenge.probably uses gear to stomp noobs in lowbie lobbies.

[subtle heart]

I like the change’s honestly

[rugged flower]

i think it would be fun if you could attack with the evil eye bat

[edgy swift]

new bug. extract in high roller and entire inventory didnt save. was reverted to my pre raid kit. FIX UR GAME AND I LOST MY HIGH ROLLER FEE FIX UR FUCKING GAME

[icy pond]

no doubt a lot of good gear will get gated behind reputation when thats out. but for this patch at least we get to try some builds out curtesy of the vendor actually having shit to sell for once. im giving crossbow/staff wiz more of a try now that i can actually get crossbows without camping in trade channel. spell power cleric too. etc

[placid belfry]

anyone else's char levels not get wiped??

[jovial island]

everyone lol

[trim ravine]

giant centipede is stupid hard now

[drifting hinge]

I love the maps and shop, but those rangers are very strong

[fair geode]

guys initial curse of pain damage is bugged ???

[lilac finch]

I wish DnD would implement the trade system from GiG

[subtle heart]

Nah centipede is still hella easy In my opinion

[edgy swift]

new bug. extract in high roller and entire inventory didnt save. was reverted to my pre raid kit. FIX UR GAME AND I LOST MY HIGH ROLLER FEE FIX UR FUCKING GAME

[hazy sable]

anyone got bards chatoic dissidence to work?

[subtle heart]

It's just more annoying now that it shits on the floor

[obtuse socket]

is armor rating table on wiki updated?

[vestal ivy]

Thats what I figured, I had my fill of HR gc when it was free so I know it well and I guess a lot of players are just getting steamrolled

[old ice]

Is it possible to gift this game?

[obtuse pumice]

anyone else have this weird laggish feeling on mouse in menu but game itself runs fine? not sure how to fix it :!

[jagged badger]

Yeah, send your friend $30

[misty stone]

useless luck potion, i played 180 luck on highroll and i got a sht in my face

[serene mica]

only issue ive had in GC so far was 5 beatles stacked on a door. i opened. and nearly died instantly. had a good laugh and requed

[icy pond]

worst part of actual HC was every mob being elite. its so much more fun in normals. just need to add more players back now to increase the pvp 👍 OH and the shit center room aka ranged player heaven now can spawn in the edge of the map so we're not forced to do that crap.

[subtle heart]

Happened to me too and I killed a hit who had a legendary cutlass and basically full purple but glitches happen just gotta chill and just have fun bro (happened to me in hell tho)

[fallow hound]

Developers, please respond to the loss of progress in the game. Loot is not saved after leaving the dungeon. do you have hands?

[fair geode]

Guys PoC is not hitting the initial 10 damage wtf ???

[wheat flax]

anyone ever exit safely through a blue portal and not get the loot?

[undone wasp]

My fucking god crossbow mastery perk on ranger is beyond OP

[formal moon]

Devs just don't know how to get actual engagement in Hr and how to develop rogue

[high jewel]

Its a known bug atm

[warped belfry]

I havent even played in 2 weeks man, because of problems they did the complete opposite of fixing. I play 0 to hero mostly by myself and pretty casually. The simple fact is that the game is far too easy now to even bother playing it. I am sick of these people turning every game into a boring mess. (they are just going to leave anyway)

[plain marsh]

no the mob density is just way way higher in the hr gc. yeah its a skill issue on some level but, giong from normal gc to hr map just feels bad

@warped belfry why should we cater to you then if you're going to continue to not play lol

[edgy swift]

hard to have fun when the game doesnt save ur progress but i feel you. my condolences on the legendary

[brave holly]

Just happened to me lol had some good shit too sadge

[rough yarrow]

lobbies are 7 people now with 6 portals

[sullen scarab]

How does a game that was so top tier after 1 patch just turn into dirt I dont understand.

[icy pond]

my problem with real HR is not that mobs are hard just some classes are a lot better at clearing than others. make everything elite and fill the rooms with it (HR Goblin) and some low dps classes just 50/50 die because they cant clear all their rooms in time. lame way to lose good gear.

[celest harness]

So they removed PvP and gear progression this update

[serene mica]

you have played... for less than a month. you dont know how "easy" the game is now compared to when it was in alpha 1 or 2. like zombies and shit would bust down doors to chase you down, they had an infinit leash range. ect ect. the game was already watered down by the time YOU showed up 28 days ago

[frail spire]

So you are saying they ruined the game this patch, without even playing it?

[subtle heart]

My favorite change so far is the change in pot density.

[warped belfry]

I doubt anyone is going to be playing long

[spare elbow]

I play w a lot of people who play daily

[drifting hinge]

I love how other people know how long I am gonna play this game

[sonic arrow]

i agree a fuck ton of ppl including myself hate the state of the game rn

[plain marsh]

whats wrong with it rn?

[jagged badger]

You doomsayers are so insufferable. It's like you guys lack the foresight to understand that the future is mutable, and the game will develop and progress. You also seem to think that every other player deems games as being dead as soon as you do.

[ebon gulch]

Doomer attitude, hypes at an all time high in my friend group, loving the new changes will be interesting to see what develops from it

[somber cape]

I just left a game and kept all of my items??

[steady torrent]

So what's with all the Weenie Hut Juniors complaining so much lately

[subtle heart]

• Static Extract

[inner musk]

'gamers' hate change and would rather complain than adapt

[random echo]

why does going to level 2 crash your game??????

[drifting hinge]

I love the patch, but there are always some that gonna cry like girls same days as it is released. Many wanted bigger and different maps, also not to get killed within 10 seconds at start

[serene mica]

hes been here for 30 days and is acting like an OG lololol

[lethal trout]

theres some good things some bad things

[rocky ore]

Whats a rusty key worth atm?

[warped belfry]

all it takes is looking at the shops and seeing the numbers. no point in looking for gear, there is no pvp based off of the dozens of complaints about it and the amount of portals. There is nothing to play

[worthy dome]

Quick question, I havent played for quite a while, have they made tthe Bard younger, or am I getting older?

[hazy jolt]

So far 2 times disconnected while going to hell. Is this a known thing?

[bold lintel]

works fine for me and many many others. may be an issue on your end

[plain marsh]

warlock changes feel bad. most of the shit was good though

[lofty arch]

Did they patch the cheese strat against wraith?

[placid belfry]

14 move speed 1 knowledge on white occultsit boots wtf??????

[vestal ivy]

im lovin the lock tbh, my only issue is buying melee weapons since greys arent too common in shops

[steady torrent]

Bro hasn't even played the game and says it's going to die

[ebon gulch]

Why don’t you try the game out for yourself instead of reading bias confirming doomer posts?

[sullen agate]

DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE THE CAVE TROLL SPAWNS IN THE NEW GOBLIN CAVES MAP

[formal moon]

Game is taking some b2b L updates

[sturdy lark]

Same place... in the center of the map

[jagged badger]

Fr dude. I played Rust on the day it released, and then for another 5 years after that. SO much shit changed in that time. You know what I did when they released some buggy shit or balancing was fucked? I played a different fucking game until they fixed it. Jesus christ

[delicate solar]

Dooming is this guy's hobby. He most likely didn't even enter the game judging by how much whining he outputs )).

[cosmic rain]

Love having the best run i've had yet getting blues and good sellables and then when i extract it's all gone definitely makes me wanna continue playing

[icy pond]

back to lobby? ya some people are running into that. even rarer some people are losing their kits on normal extract. some rare portal bugs going around.

[dense nexus]

man getting 1 shot by warlocks is so freaking balanced

[bold lintel]

theres plenty of pvp homie. every raid people want to pick fights. keep listening to the vocal minority. most people dont scream "wow i got some pvp last game. WOO HOO!" cause thats just kinda par for the course

[warped belfry]

give it a couple days, you will see

[plain marsh]

I'm just not a huge fan of their bug fixes to torture mastery. It felt really good before, power of sacrifice was a great risk/reward healing option. He'll fire would let you heal off of tanky mobs really well. It made the class feel self sufficient and rewarding in base gear.

Now with the spell memory addition too, starting warlock is even worse to play

[umbral barn]

whats wrong with the bug exiting the blue and got zero loot after the game like a rollback

[rose steeple]

is there really only 7 players on the goblin caves now? I counted 6 blue portals and the guaranteed extract. That means everyone can extract wtf

[ebon gulch]

I’ve seen this post 100 Times before, its always wrong. People have been saying star citizen was going to run out of money and die since 2016 lol

[static rapids]

Been happening for a little while yes

[nova vortex]

not sure heard someone else say that just try make a ticket

[bold lintel]

does it not combo anymore? i thought it felt different but figured i was just buggin

[vestal ivy]

I'm definitely feeling the spell memory hits, but as someone who was unaware of the hellfire thing, it really doesn't feel too different. Also power of sacrifice still works, it is just currently bugged to not work with curse mastery so hopefully that will be fixed soon.

[last iris]

Anyone else extracting and losing all their loot?

[junior gale]

yup extracted out of normal hell and everything was gone

[warped belfry]

So you dont think they will get bored when their stashes are full of bis loot in 3 days?

[umbral barn]

happend 3 time to me in a row and also my other two friends who were in the party but will do

[silent skiff]

is anyone having an issue with going into hell like it just boots you back to the main menu

[flint surge]

where do you find the golden ore? is it on high roller only orsomting?

[plain marsh]

o7

Just look at what happened to the cycle. They catered to the hard-core crowd and turned the starter map into pvp heaven for them. And cheaters were a big issue. Ironmace needs to avoid those mistakes

@vestal ivy you can heal off of power of sacrifice? That changes my opinion then

[serene mica]

its really buggy, half the time im casting it on myself i dont take more than 1-2 ticks of dmg but get the full str bonus. feels super dirty playing right now as a warlock because that spell is crucial

[fluid trench]

game had a long load in after lobby. Extracted on first blue. Server has my inventory as if I never went in. Came out with a ring and some stuff. Weird bug.

[hazy jolt]

Are the devs awere of this?

[nova vortex]

try the tavern masters probably wont get the stuff back though

[acoustic heath]

Anyone else leaving dungeons via portals and all items disapearing?

[bold lintel]

uh ohh we got a BIS'er, chat. he doesnt understand they say that as a meme

[ebon palm]

does your loot come back if you re-log

[regal veldt]

Weird comparison

[formal moon]

They don't seem to be aware that the duping glitch is still working

[calm musk]

anyonelse thinks giving movespeed to torch and lantern was the stupidiest thing ever?

[spare swan]

new crypt layout is so ass what are they even thinking

[limber badge]

Is this true or doom posting?

[warped belfry]

of course its true

[plain marsh]

Lol welp looks like an emergency hot fix is incoming

[serene mica]

nope, gives some nice counterplay, i also dig having some increased MS with my falchion out

[brisk lava]

devs: we want to slow the game down
clerics:2 hit anyone with white mace k

[proud void]

Star citizen got like what 500m funded, fuck outta here with that comparison lmao

[misty stone]

BUFF THE LUCK ON ITEM RARITIES OR THIS GAME HAVE NO SENSE!ª

[main garden]

And star citizen is still trash lmao

[bitter grail]

SC has perfected high value whale milking, there are losers who spend 1000s on jpg ships that don’t exist

[vestal ivy]

as long you are not running curse mastery, PoS works the same as before. With eldritch sheild its actually a viable buff as well since the magic damage you deal from casting it is absorbed by the shield.

@serene mica even once it stops being fixed the eldritch shield strat works which is pretty fun

[formal moon]

It's true. Which means duping raw gold will be coming once the chest gets created.

[silver sandal]

got into that crawl playtest, it doesnt have the same sauce as dark and darker. cant wait to get paid so i can play with yall again

[last spoke]

Use luck potion

[ebon gulch]

If they devs think they need to they will wipe again. They are testing a new patch and the increased availability of gear could be a part of their testing goals. You are making assumptions based on other players having a similar opinion as you but for a lot of us we understand the nature of EA means things will fluctuate. Gotta trust the process or be more careful in where you put your money if your not willing to back an idea

@regal veldt @proud void Star citizen is one of the most doomed on EA games that’s ever existed lol the amount of money that they’ve made matter very little, their dev team is also 100 times bigger

[dense meadow]

are reds working for anyone else game just boots me when i try and go down

[static rapids]

Every match I’ve played everyone says don’t go down

[limber badge]

Good lord that really, really sucks.

[tall herald]

@sdf great update!

[plain marsh]

Well people keep saying they need to release the game, but also they rake in more money each year. It's starting to 'slow down' but they are raking in mad money

@vestal ivy I really like eldritch. It's essential when fighting other warlocks, it eats up an entire blow of corruption

[serene mica]

i... never put 2 and 2 together on that shield combo. holy shit. ty

[warped belfry]

also put purple gear in shop for 140 gold...

@ebon gulch It was already far too easy to get good gear, before they made it easier

[subtle heart]

Ok well hell is messed up don't go. It will kick you to lobby and make you lose all your gear. Happened 2x in a row now..surprised no announcement or something warning people

[regal veldt]

Idk why you’re including me in this lolz but yeah I wouldn’t waste my time playing this game rn

[mint trout]

Not lose but you just reset to before you got into the lobby

[vale bough]

@subtle heart haha we were just fighting your team, your ranger was nutty

[grave topaz]

yah, blue portal back to kit i cam in with no loot

[calm musk]

lol counterplay to what

[cosmic rain]

love losing all my juice to an EXTRACT lmao no wonder 15k people have gotten off in the past hour

[brisk lava]

yeah idk how i feel about that one..only upside is to maybe not have to spend as much time in trader but ye

[main garden]

They made the game cater more to the casual experience ngl, idk what to say about it, I like that merchants aren’t useless now

[plain marsh]

This is why I keep an open mind when crying about the balance lol

@warped belfry I've played with some trios man that were just plain bad. There is no way there were getting any kind of gear and keeping it. Now there's more people worth killing instead of just fighting a bunch of nakeds or biskits

[formal moon]

Plus side, gold will be cheap. Meaning lots of loot for us from baddies

[ebon gulch]

That could be a testing goal of theirs though, to see the impact of higher end gear when made more readily available or testing the new gear balance approach. Like I said trust the process but your paid for the idea cause the game doesn’t exist yet. Let them cook.

@regal veldt you said it was a weird take I clarified why it wasn’t, you do you boo I’ll continue to support and play the game

[peak agate]

i was fighting sentapede bro wth

[warped belfry]

sentancepede?

[summer pulsar]

Is the general consensus that rouge got nerfed wayyy to hard? Rarely see them anymore

[serene mica]

as a squishy lock, ill take as much MS wherever i can get it.

@plain marsh i was saddend at the healing spell, wish we could move with it active, feels so weird being locked in place for 6s. also ray of darkness is bugged on the healing 2 😦 so locks are missing out on some power still. cant wait for the bugs to be fixed

[main garden]

The tankier classes got hella buffed imo, cleric, fighter, barb, all seem to do great rn, and of course ranger is in the best spot

[stark shard]

That is literally the opposite of what they did, they catered to the casual crowd and it definitively killed the game. Not that it wasn't already a heavily laboring beast, but - the final updates they pushed to try and save it were absolutely geared toward casuals and the game died the instant they did that. The hardcores were no longer interested, and the casuals did not spend money on the game.

The cheaters were not really a big issue past season 1, they cracked down on them hard. Also gave you back your kit if you died to one so it was actually pretty good on that front. I'd like to see IM do the same honestly

[regal veldt]

It’s a weird take because it doesn’t have any of the same mechanics as this game. You could very easily find an example that actually resembles this game like the cycle which died. Star citizen has its niche but I really don’t understand how you’d compare the two seriously. Just because they’re both in early access? Aight

[rotund swift]

Something needs to change with weaponsmith/armorer... there shouldnt be more blues/purps than greys/whites..... new playes arent even able to find a grey weapon of their choosing they can afford at the start through 4 weaponsmith resets

[limber badge]

Arguably worse class in the game by a landslide

[spare swan]

this game is hopeless

[calm musk]

just lol