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Can I get a awww yeaaaaaa
the reason they have pre 15 lvl lobbies isnt for your conveniance, its for new players to learn, and also your character needs to lvl past 14 at some point or you cant use the trade hall
SHOULD THEY ADD A GULAG IN THE GAME, LIKE IN COD WARZONE? I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL.
the trade hall is the real factor for level 15
well its fucking stupid
The game was perfectly playable before pre-15 lobbies. I literally never had an issue.
i know dude i play above 15 all the time i also like to play hr no like this guy
he wants to abuse the low level players. and claims its because 15+ is all RMT'rs. he doesnt realize his own behavior is as toxic as RMT'rs
It’s almost like better people r higher level or something
then thats just a skill issue. I regularily as default barb take down blue geared wizards solo in gob cave
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man can they do anything right........
Personally, I just don't like trade and hoarding money. I'd be happy with spawn gear fights. Those are always hilarious.
Just goes to show you, rats come in all varieties lol.
It’s almost like, I have every class in the game at 20 before every wipe and I would shit on you kids in gear with equivalent gear, I just don’t RWT.
Except players are abusing it in multiple ways so it’s just doing more harm than good. Remove split lobbies
Some of you take it too seriously, lighten up. I'm glad when geared people go into normal lobbies because it's a good chance to outplay for some upgrades.
barb has high magic resist so its doable but i would definately bet on the wizard most of the time
anyone know when itll be back up- just got off work and not sure if 630 central
about an hour
nerd
Maybe people will play 15+ more when skill points are a thing
it said about 4 for me so about an hour
yes they need to make it so that once you have one character in 15+ lobbies then you cant make new characters to go back
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Right, I’m just like at least I can justify to myself when I get outplayed. Like yep gotta be the gear. 😂
This, and remove trading.
@elfin hull hey greed is goods community manager could you unban me from your discord i didnt mean it
@serene mica Thanks i wasnt sure if it was central thats cooool aroudn 1030 itll be up lol hopefuly servers dont crash
If you reroll as soon as you get to 15 when you’re not geared aren’t you just contributing to the problem
WHo else thinks its crazy Clerics didn't get a single nerf?Like if you don't have a cerlic on your team you're trolling.... that's how strong they are.
@vestal matrix nah that means people cant do perma death runs and trading is needed imo @wide crest
Good players don't want to go back to pre 15 and fight with you and everyone else for greys buddy, sorry to burst your bubble, we actually like having fun
the gear rebalance could very easily have nerfed them. we dont know yet
Clerics lost 5 will like 4 days ago. Lol 
I am, and I always will until they fix the problem. Fuck post 15.
Players just drop gear for each other as well and pre team while they are at it. Put everyone together again and it make it harder to abuse. Give a small practice area for new players. Problems solved
no it just makes perma death runs a lot harder, not impossible
bro we've seen their last attempts at trying to balance, if its anything like those then we're fucked
There's no way that's enough they just have way to many heals if you ask me.
WhAtS WiTh ThIS BS WaRlOcK BuFf
LOL and you find it fun fighting players with no gear to gain no gear? What's the point?
they should make a hardcore character permadeth. with better loot expensive hr if you get to lvl 15 with the hc one
the last 4 patches have literally just been "cater to the latest whine fest"
agree!
You realize, all pre-15 lobbies are, is players that reroll because post 15 lobbies are toxic to the game right?
Rangers are going to be very good still. Im calling it
they are super stat dependant. gonna be sinking my time into warlock like eveyr other weeb as well
Point is hes bad. Lol
All I know is I’m rerolling with horace I already die too fast
have u thought that the "whine fest" has been right?
Warlock will be fun but cleric will be better
Is game wiping today
Every class is good if you play them right.. Dont be a troll
What is re-roll? Just making a new character?
Btw was just looking trought the Uniques and whats the use of Aegis is that thing able to block Aoes as well (as in splash from fireball Locust swarm etc)
TTK should be raised with weapon nerfs across the board
I have no idea what you're talking about. I go into games, kill players, and get their loot. I have zero fun fighting other players who have zero gear.
@copper wave I enjoy doing Pre 15 to practice going to hell and killing bosses/minibosses. PVP comes if it comes but i just like the easier lobby so i can do my PVMing
Yeah. Delete old character, make a new one, so you're always under level 15.
It reflects the fireball not the aoe
Yes, as you should. I’m on my 7th warlock this wipe.
You get to 15 so fast that sounds miserable remaking every time but I see the appeal.
Taking a more geared players kit always feels great but it’s borderline impossible in trios if you’re stuck with base kit
you realize. no. thats not the case. LOLOLOLOL. whatever you have to say to justify your toxic behavior
Call me crazy but it would be more exciting when you hear footsteps around a corner that you don’t know what kind of player it is. It’s dumb when everyone has nothing or everyone has everything. Just revert and let it be fun again
the only vision I've seen has been "make the streamer parrots happy"
Good lord you must die to AI easily
thats not always true, some classes are shit until you get good gear like wizard or warlock. Regardless of how good you play them. Rangers are very good from the start. Best starting loadout in the game for pvp
a i missed the reflect componement
my bad Was just confused since The whole Able to block magic seems redundant since well any shield can block magic
Wipe be ready at 12 right?
I bet horace hides in his pre 15 lobbies too
Warlock is a fucking powerhouse with a longsword. 2 shot any class in the game.
i Never felt slighted on my warlock. from 1-20 was super simple. that leveling curve felt smooth the whole way
Is there a way to join multiple class discussions in this discord?
if you lose to a base kit fighter on anyclass you are bad, sorry but its facts fighter is by far the weakest base kit
give me an example of a nerf that wasn't completly needed
"What class is good" depends on what map you're playing. Warlock is strong in Duos. Feels like he loses a bit of usefulness in Trios though.
You literally just need a green book to smoke a lobby with wiz if you are any good
Warlock can kill fully kitted players with 1 spell.. and enough damage with base staff that matches barbs hits with buff
Something tells me stats won't be a problem with them saying armor is going to now have other bonuses and merchants offering us more. I guess we shall see though. I just hate that a cleric makes a huge dif in a drawn out fight.
"Do my critical thinking for me"
No thanks
weakest base kit definately true possibly strongest bis kit if wizards weren't here
yes @wintry bloom if you go to the channel and roles thing and select all
geh
Second wind and sprint is probably the best 2 ability combo behind maybe triple shot and biscuit though. Lol
lmao your arguments rn is "I think thing is bad" with no elaboration as to why. thats not an argument thats whining
if warlocks miss that headshot with BoC, its GG however...
anyone able to get back in yet?
If people die to Hellfire, they're deaf. That's all there is to that.
you guys dont want to admit the starting gear is better on ranger, thats my point. Acting like once you get "this" item its so ez and op lol
Nerf critical thinking
oh thanks. I didn't see that
Hell fire is just a bad spell in general
nope wizard were better with starting just deleting barbs and fighters
that is true however their lack of armor and no burst damage on lvl 1 is the problem they definately have worse base kit but they scale amazyingly well
Hopefully the balances lessen the gap between base gear and full a lil, I don’t wanna be stuck in a lobby where everybody has nothing because half the fun is taking players better gear but when it’s you vs an entire lobby of caped purple gear it’s not exactly fun either
Nah sprint and second wind take the cake
Hellfire is a zoning spell. *facepalm.
blud has never played trios with a warlock
Hellfire is not a bad spell at all. It's amazing. But, people shouldn't be dying to it, unless they're deaf, or in a realllllly bad situation. Hellfire is the ultimate area denial spell, and anti-push.
Not compared to a ranger with a trap. Rangers have no counter except rangers or higher movement speed/ambush
My
lol thats cap...very situational. Small area wiz loses 9 times out of 10.
Rangers counter is a corner
yeah rangers are broken only meta rangers chill here says otherwise
yo is it still in maintenance, checked up on it like 13 or 14 hours ago and it was
yeah it will instant kill anyone who get stuck in it if that ever happens so you cant push a warlock spamming hellfire down the 1x1
And Barbarian One Shots, and Fighter chase, or a Rogue ambush.
Wow it’s like maybe splitting lobbies was a bad idea
got like 50mins mate
I buy an 8g grey falchion and go to town. Arming sword blows, thats half of the struggle as a stock fighter
woooo games back up!!!
I never disagreed with that lol
Agreed 100%. Splitting lobbies just ruins the whole fucking point of the game.
i have a love hate with this scaling, hopefully its scaled back a bit, but especially with the 15+ lobbies not because of them mind you, fighter can be very hard to snowball on as its harder to do eco runs safely and efficently
fighter and barb have to get close. any good ranger would just run
kinda true at low end falchion clears arming high end it arming all the way for fighter but yeah id take falchions at grey but always arming at purps
best to worst base kit prepatch
Ranger
Wizard/Bard (same tier)
Barbarian/Cleric/Warlock (same tier)
Rogue/Fighter (same tier)
honestly i might just bump fighter up one tier just cause of round shield and second wind
What a horrible start to a wipe, 12 am ...
i loove that GD falchion on my Warlock early wipe. its so strong.
The world is round.
Fighters worst starting kit ?
@steady robin @wide crest I’m just disappointed they aren’t reverting it this patch. It’s really the only change I have a serious problem with
Splitting lobbies is stupid and people taking advantage of it by rerolling at 15 just blow the problem up even more
Get you a long sword on warlock, it one/two shots most mobs and olayers
its 12pm in korea you know
pfft only 12 am its currently 15 to 4 am for me
No one wants your noob lobby farming strats bro.
I mean yhea fighters base kit might be not the best but it also all depends on what you are going up ageinst
besides the weapon his kit is fine in my opinion.
meanwhile Ranger for example has a good Kit for the first fight (initial trap) but i would say he realy losses out in his second battle
barbarians Starting axe slaps but is one of the easyer weapons to counter (Evade block riposte etc)
Main Factor is still matchup as well as player
who cares about korea???? 🦅
I just don't know why they separate matchmaking by level when they should do it by trader stamp. I like the pure gameplay of no trading but at some point I will have to delete my char.
Ight that’s it I’m moving to Korea
I agree. This was my point that some other people were complaining about lol. Warlock should be bottom, but I know they updated it a lot this patch
dont care for the animations. falchion is fast and nimble
how much longer...i wanna play
b/c people whine
It's literally that simple
i wouldn't sleep on base BoC or Curse of Pain even, if we are talking about equal kits
I wonder how the new player experience is gonna be handled at full release because without wipes it would be abysmal lmao
if warlock is running BoC he bumps up above fighter but if he is not running BoC warlock is worst starter kit
base warlock is literally the best base kit lmao
They’ll always be wipes for that reason
guys, we cant rate SHIT right now, ALL items have been adjusted. keep that in mind.
PvP base kit warlock is trash. Sure PVE its great for cheesing, but horrible in pvp without gear
there will always be wipes, just like in tarkov, but hopefully they sort out high roller and it becomes the gearsink it was ment to be
typical egocentric uneducated american
Just as it should be, this game isn’t catered towards shitters, and it shouldn’t be. That’s why I have a problem with pre-15 lobbies
i think if the game had a set wipe schedule like every other month or something once its out would be a good way to maintain players (depending on how long/short a wipe is)
debatable, despite all the ranger hate I have to give credit to two free traps and a ton of free sustain via field rations
????? Lol. Your a confused little man. 
If the game wasn’t catered towards shitters they wouldn’t let you reroll so easily
very untrue it is great against pve but its so bad in pvp as a someone who just farms warlocks on every wipe BoC has a short timer before it runs out and warlock base spells do no damage and are hard to land
when is the game scheduled to be back up?
if you have a problem with them... why in the hell... do you only play in them? . ... ... ... ... god damn make it make sense
15 mins
Rangers nerf is a slap on the wrist compared to the rogue nerf
as a warlock main maybe its just a skill issue for u because i died 0 times last wipe getting from level 1-15 lmao
I would roll both of you kids, hop in a gobbo lobby with me on Sydney when game launches in 30 mins
We need to start a petition I think. It’s seriously a killer downer. Lobbies feel pretty dead too. I see many repeat names already in +15
minutes
He got dropped on his head as a kid i think. Man has split personality disorder or something
sure thing bud i said i farmed warlock not that i was farmed at warlock so i don't know why you are saying skill diff try reading comp. dif
Cap af
Meet me in the bathroom at 1am Oregon time for 1v1 nerd horace
agreed. warlock was super simple. the only thing i feared was a ranger.... just because it was at a range i couldnt compete with.
@pulsar pebble LOL
literally farmed the cave troll and got a cape with strength and agility first raid and some blue gloves pretty sure i was over geared from my first raid lmao
Nope we just need to delete traiding is trash
As it should be tbh. Rouges we’re waay more out of hand
idc what class you main you dont go to 1-15 without dying. Lets be real here
ohhh ur playing GC? literally not even the real game. 2v2 or 3v3 only. otherwise it doesnt count
if you play solo, rat, and grab the first portal you see it's really not that hard
a LOT of 3 mans pass up the lone early portals
what crack are u smoking dude there were 8 other players every game that couldve killed me
what does added new attributes mean?
I didn’t say it needed to be catered towards shitters but new players are what keep games alive lol what
how can you even say that? 2v2 didnt exist until last patch....
I’m not sure I agree with such an extreme change. Perhaps it should be tweaked or limited as opposed to gutted
They added new attributes.
maybe with a shit bucket and no sunlight too>?
gc is fine dude. just because u dont play it doesnt mean is bad
so we have strenght dext will and knowledge now we have two more to build up
goblin caves is significantly easier than ruins or crypts
yea in 1v1 situations. thats literally not the real game. try playing that in 2v2 or 3v3, u will die. Its like saying playing coop AI or aram in league is the real game. there are just things u cant do against teams
in my opinion its a mix of gear fear and the "feeling" you need a good set to go into 15+, anyone returning to a level 1 character is arguably just bad at the game and unable to complete farm runs to build multiple gear sets. but then again my experience is only in solo's and in solos it can be extremely hard to complete even a single eco run in 15+
I totally agree we need new influx of players, but just like everyone else that started this game.. they are going to die on REPEAT to AI regardless. Players are not the issue for new players.
maybe if ur teammates suck get better teammates lmao
if that's your idea of "a few hours" then yeah I guess
Horace needs an influx of new players to feed on in noob lobbies
Anyone have any idea what the weapon damage adjustments are?
Oh right that makes sense, wasn’t sure if it was just an EA thing or not
The proof is all the people who get 15 and delete their chars. Why you ask? Way more balanced gameplay and not just super sweats taking over lobbies with such a huge gear advantage it's hard out skill.
hen will this fainlly be over
If lvl 1-15 is a few hours then you must be killing the whole lobby in gc
anyone else on im on right now killing boss
Solo had multiple versions of a map developed for it while duos got a hand me down map months later no one played. Great take
u get 0 exp from killing players......
I'm camping blues, waiting for you right now.
kills dont give exp, breaking/opening chests/barrels/pots gives exp
the amount of times you party up with people that say they know there left from there right when they dont is super common tho which dosent help farm runs lol
Are servers back up yet?
i mean the Pre 15 loobies you complain about then just make sure you get the experience you want (or one close to it) since you will run into less people that are completly new to the game.
So does it help newcommer
yes
does it help people that are good at the game not be bored with people that anyway die to mobs before you met them
yes
Only reason to Complain about it (from Player experience perspective like you are) is that you are either just a toxic person that needs the Validation of "being able to play a hard game" or you want to specificaly dunk on new players cause you have a reason not to want a fair fight
that doesnt matter. the real game is how hard it is. and skill ceiling. also, its whats played most
You cannot outskill a full purple bard comp with capes as a gray character. That’s why the game is in an awful state. ALSO, breaking barrels does not grant exp anymore. Opening chests, killing AI, and opening portals are the only sources of exp now.
you realize each creature in basic crypts gives like 3-4 xp right? a pot/box is 2xp?
you can hop in, get 100xp, and hop out in like 3 minutes
That’s makes absolutely zero sense. Bye
hasnt it been 4 hours
Hello guys, please when will patch #2? Thanks guys please
I am quite pessimistic about this new patch because it hasn't changed anything about the situation of R M Ters and gold sellers. No trade systems updates other than timestamp and slot filter added are quite disappointing. The Player to player trade system is naturally vulnerable to R M Ts which is almost unable to tracked in the trading system rn. R M T ers and gold sellers will turn the game into where it was before the wipe, let alone the incentives to use hacks created by R M T behaviours. R M Ters and gold sellers are enlarging the gear gaps and make the game environment worse and worse for normal players and I wonder why IM is not seeing it and not taking actions to deal with them.
it has been 3 hours 20 minutes
redditor xD, cant handle losing an argument. just say my bad bro
Euwhats rmters?
There was an update to ironshield as well within this patch.
I get that you dont think it takes very long, but why are you just making numbers up? You cant leave a match in 3min
Areal money traders
what is RMTers you talking about
dont know how to tell time?
real money traders.... a ghost of a problem. like 2% of the PB participates in it
yeah literally irrelevant. Not sure why this guy cares so much.. probably sick of breaking the bank on it and getting wiped
WTB gold
Do you?? They said servers started at 7:30 pm its 10:50 thats 3 hours 20 minutes dumb ass
Kisune, they have exactly the same odds as killing me as I do them. I have equivalent gear that I DIDNT PAY IRL MONEY FOR
Which is why ppl are deleting there chars at level 15....Trash trading system. Either give us Auction house or delete traiding. Either one would at least be better than where we are now
How do they get the gold for sale? Dupping?
the real issue with trading is teammates wasting an hour trying to sell dogshit
my wife left me because i dont know how to tell time, I also quit my job early to play this game but now im sadge
An auction house would be dope as fuck
its kinda funny because if ironmace started selling gold themselves people would probably melt down, but i dunno maybe not maybe it could be good for the game?
Game is better without trade imo. Pre-15's are the way to go.
Then you get their gear since you can't pay for skills.
You can outskill them if you have 3 characters that know what theyre doing and are running green/blues or a good comp. Youre just complaining because YOU can't kill them. You have to play safer then commit when theyre scared. Use their teammates to block their rangers arrows. Use line of sight. Use anything to your advantage or third party them when someone else goes in. There is more to the game than just trading blow for blow
its his justification to be toxic, its his excuses as to why he cant compete in a fully geared lobby
@jolly bobcat duping/exploiits/cheats ect. its why the game has a 30$ price tag
another tard that wants everyone else like him stuck in greys all day
Based
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS AHH
NO
Dude are you sure about this? We constantly see those gold sellers posting their websites in the utility trade channel all time and you are saying they are irrelevant, lmao.
I think it’s up…
team no sleep play all night get fired from job poggers
Anybody have a rare/cool ign they'd trade? Dm me
Sorry, that was just a pen in my pocket.
seeing them posted doesnt mean they are getting traffic.
is wipe in 3mins or 33mins?
Dude 1000 gold is ONE DOLLAR. I’ve never spent a penny on shit besides buying the game
When is the next patch?
Anyone else up playin with they worm
Rangers are more than balanced, change my mind
Shit I got a dollar
the only one thats buy items for real money are the chineses all i saw was RMB all the time
Another tard no life with to much time on his hand to farm out super gear and claim it's all skill. Reality he can't win unless he has lobster gear.
Closer the the half hour mark friend.
I don't know why are people complaining about gold sellers, every game has them, every game will have them unless it's a single players. The thing you should worry about is when gold sellers start selling skills and not just gold.
My launcher just force closes and opened? My bad might’ve been false alarm. Not up
i maxed one out in GiG today. god they are broken, reminds me of early DnD rangers
how much longer
bruh
bro it even says. Thats like 6min minimum by the time it spawns
weapon slow on hit effects should be tailored to the armour, if im in full plate arrows shouldnt slow me to a crawl :/ "change my mind"
Panda trolled then guilt tripped himself I see right through your bs panda
It’ll be up eventually that’s for sure
The reason I have a problem with it, is because post 15 lobbies are just crawling with rwters. The game was in an unplayable state by the end of the wipe
Man, was lookin forward to spending my day off playing DnD
bro only people deleting chars to restart the 1-15 are soyboys like you that find it fun to loot grey cloth pants and grey rogue cowels all game
Because some people have to survive raids to buy purple kits. Gold buyers run purp every time. Especially with 3k chests now you can buy thousands of gold
IM GOING FUCKING INSANE
Lol naw man I was trying to be the first one with the news. I’ll be quite lmao y’all can figure it out on ur own
Yes but if they shoot your feet with the perk it still slows you a ton.
should be up in like 30mins if no delays
Yes it should, full plate fighter is already the most busted build in the game
i bet everyone in this chat got their boosters, now they got the tism
@copper wave it’s fun because I get to farm easy gold. Get to 2k gold easily then risk it in highroller
alrighty dude, think whatever you want
Most peopel arent' that good. But you are right
you guys are having the most civil disagreement possible
Since the beginning of the playtest to the end, the ONLY comp/strategy I've witnessed and think is actually broken is the bard drum/invis strat. One thrown drum to any squishy class almost one shots them.
literally has so many counters lmao
You are being delusional if you think that way. They are clearly fearless about being banned from their constantly advertising their websites which means it is quite profitable for those gold sellers to cover loses of the possible ban. This game is not some free to play game.
full plate in solo's is a deathwish normally even full purps, its too open in too many places rangers will pepper you all game
who plays like this? Get an upgrade and equip it and dont die and work your way up. Your way is tedious and extremely boring
tell me why i feel like theyre gonna buff the longbow damage to “compensate” for the quickshot nerf
@copper wave I mean I find it fun. Gtfo the world dosent revolve around your opinions
Let them buy gold and gear and w.e you get skills and you take their gear and their gold. You learn the game, they most likely will have less experience than you and in the case they do and get caught the game sooner or later will be able to caught gold trades within the game.
If they did im going to make popcorn and watch this discord go to hell in real time 
@beanr yea its pretty fun
i use to be a gold seller in wow, THOSE links are phising to get peoples account info. thats how they perpetuate the problem.
if someone is dumb enough to click it they deserve to lose their account, if someone is looking to really buy they will hit up google and search that way. anything found ingame is nothing but malware/trojans waiting to happen
where the white women at
warlock is about to be crazy
Literally has none. He can outplay every class with a crossbow shield sprint heal parry and highest pdr in the game. And before you ignorantly say wiz, he can one shot to the head. Absolutely broken if you are geared properly
Trust me, I totally get your reason on defending it.. I just think the whole split lobby is TOZIC
LONG BOW SHOULD HAVE -100% MOVE DEBUFF WHEN DRAWING
sounds like a good gig, what was your average hourly?
Yeah your right. No way it could be the fact that the trading system is trash and time consuming. Sorry I'm here for the pvp life. I'm not going to spend the time selling/buying like soy trash that needs the gear advantage.

wizard/warlock/cleric/rogue but ok
i botted 6 accounts, i made about 13/hr
mind you this was in 2006
have you seen a longbow in real life? watch anyone on youtube even. it is fast and puts people down. the game makes longbows slow.
@crude jetty i think more like 75 or 80%
I’d rather be a fighter with a purple crossbow honestly.
SERVERS UP, 3.4GB DOWNLOAD GOGOGO
Bro you obviously don't understand how these services work lol. Unless it's an extremely sketchy site most of them process gold by trading you, not by asking for your account info. It's as simple as paying them, being told where to go and accepting the trade request.
DO YOU EVEN LONGBOW
lol I mean im not thinking anything, you just sent proof you were wrong and you are wildly exaggerating how fast you can get to lvl 15
Trading system sucks but if they make it an auction house its going to get botted into the dirt in the first day and youd never buy anything you want anyways. So pick your poison lol
ok
He outplays everyone of them either with crossbow or melee. Rouge is nothing anymore
cleric is literally a better fighter @errant steeple a cleric will win the melee 1v1 every single time what are u on
I'm not defending gold sellers nor gold trades. All i'm saying is you eventually learn how to fight geared players with lesser gear and actually become a better player, they don't and in fact they get poorer regardless of how much money they have.
U got me
lol yeah and its a ranger bowery is their thing would be satisfying for 1 match though
clicking the link leads to a offsite, that site can easily hide trojans and malware, thats how the gold sellers always have an account at 15+ because some dum clicked the link.
As a cleric main I AGREE SIR
Trade is already botted, im saddened by there not just removing trading outright, this patch gunna be just as full of gold sellers as last.
You smell like beer cheese and bong water
they should add a greatbow that you gotta plant to draw back like darksouls
Cleric is the only one that can stand toe to toe with geared fighter. I take back nothing else I said
So you think a website can deploy a trojan on your computer without installations or running files? That's not how computers work... a website can't immediately hijack your computer because you decided to open a sketchy looking website on google chrome
wizard kills him so easily, warlock who plays right can kill him so easily
give me a busted class and build
NAIL ON THE FUCKING HEAD bring that in here
lol you have never heard of dark web, educate urself lil bro
28 minutes boys
Cleric is a better fighter except with different build focuses, less speed, less range, less hp, less damage, and less versatility👍
Warlock with phantasm and melee ability
no, its hidden in a popup that showed up and minimizes super fast as its installing a.exe on your computer.
It smells like nerd sweat and mathematics in here
One crossbow shot on a wiz…one
never said it should do damage to plate. but only nobles and royals wore plate on the battlefield. and they weren't walking much. chainmail is more prevalent and itd go through that.
It’s time to get ur water and take ur bong rips. Assume the position
@sleek fulcrum dont forget blood!
same armor, same hp, more damage do to magic damage, self heals, buffs, ranged magical damage, 👍 Trolling if ur not playing cleric in high roller
R M Ters won't always be bad and there will be gears gaps that can be settled just by skills, for example, +3 all attributes gears. R M T behaviors are also giving incentives for those gold sellers to use hacks to farm gold and gears. Overall, those who are engaged in R M Ts are making the game environment worse for others without doubt.
My posion is if you can't do trading right then don't do it at all. Why does everyone feel like it's needed? Good players will win and find gear. Eventually building several gear sets to take out for bossing or pvp.
You are totally right but the guy has a point. You won't get a virus or any kind of malware by clicking a link without uninstalling anything. But you can become a victim of phishing and lose your account.
cant wait to see the ranger lobbies again shooting me across the map from a dark corner hiding behind a trap
So rangers should do zero damage to anyone wearing plate right?
Remove all classes but ranger
Because 80% of the playerbase will cry if they cant trade? I can live without trading. But the majority want a trade system.
Hunger games mode
removing trading all together makes the gear difference way larger and causes more problems
The final stretch
i watch a good archer and he shoots around 16 arrows a minute which is around 4 secs a shot which is still slower by far than DaD and that is standing completely still and only be somewhat accurate for the speed longbow in this game is way better than longbow in real life you capping hard
when you focus a build on strength and physical dmg, you will be doing more damage and have more hp than clerics. The buffs are great but they are situation heavy whilst the fighters are permanent attributes. Ranged magical damage isn't very useful especially in the current meta.
nerf rogue more. they shouldn't do dmg, rangers do that anyway
clerics basically have to crouch spam to not get parry riposted in which case they get hit in the head repeatedly while hitting my feet. melee clerics arent much of an issue vs longsword but the damn HI IM HERE EARTHQUAKE guys make me sad
also that is modern steel they are using in that video so not a realistic comparison. a windlass crossbow should go through plate though and have less falloff. also rangers already do like no damage to someone in plate unless you headshot thats why fighters and clerics eat rangers alive
Fair point
It’s not that we don’t need a trade system it’s that we need a better less abusable one
my wife left me because i quit my job to play dis gaem and now im sad with no family or wife 😦
yep unless they are using good gear
Cheaters will get ban eventually, and tell me a single game that relies on pvp that doesn't have gold sellers or cheaters. There's always going to be and unless there's a perfect anti cheat (which there isn't) this will always happen in the near future. In fact banning cheaters and gold buyers will provide more money to devs to mantain the game. Cheaters won't kill a game entirely.
26 mins for the update?
That would only be true if your stash size was big enough to store lots of gear sets. Reality is you can only hold so much.
Make trading a map and have to Voip all your trades
Greed is good has a solid trading system, DnD needs to yank that over for the next patch
keep dreaming lol
are the servers still down?
No system like that exists lol. Theres not a single multiplayer in game trading system that isnt riddled with problems. The actual issue is players who are losers. People who have to abuse systems because they are insecure about themselves. Devs cant fix that sadly.
voip trading ironforge ftw
Servers will up in 24 mins
Greed is good is garbage but theres a couple things in it that would be great on here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ebQeoAeKIg this dudes like 70 and shoots every 2-3 seconds all headshots
Why does GiG look like the exact same game
patch in 15
NO SLEEP TILL VOIP TRADING!!!
How do we fix scumbag players from abusing the trading system? That’s right. Ants
idk mane, i remmeber DnD in its first playtest, it wasnt to hot either.
The ppl that cry should just be called gold farmer supporters and it would be great for the community if they just left.
They need to just keep yanking each other until one of them gets good. They can have a baby and call it “DaD is GooD”
Remove all gear from the game, only basic gear! And anyone that gets a bit better than me, stick them in a different match making system! I just want to run around roleplaying and looting goblins all day peacefully!
We're almost there, warriors. 1-10 on whether it's up in an hour?
Amen Brother
cause they stole the idea and essentially copypasted dark and darker
Everyone’s enjoying sub 15 gold less trade post less games
IM adds 300 gold bags and 4000 gold chests

Its not even comparable dnd first playtest was so much better.
servers will be up only for no lifers to farm until morning so everyone with a job will be stomped on 👍
My blacksmith installer is acting very weird and slow. If I uninstalled it and reinstalled that won’t mess anything up right?
This is your 23 minute warning wake the fuck up!!!!
ikr like what
Idk how much security has evolved since the 00's and early 10's, but it used to be that sites could run scripts that downloaded malware onto your computer by just the act of loading the webpage. I think anything that ran on java was particularly vulnerable at one point, but this way well over a decade ago.
What do you guys think of project crawl
when servers
GiG is better PVP, DnD is better PVE. Fight me.
Thats part of it. Social disgust could go a long way to keep people in line. Dont remain friends with people who hack or RWT. Make it so socially unacceptable it dies off
What is gig
What are you talking about dude. Not even close to what I’m saying
It was called a "java driveby".
^ unfortunately ranger damage is too high for the skill expression to even be relevant
Greed is Dad PvPvE
chill ppl have to sleep eventually
20 minutes until my life is complete
YO THE GAME IS BACK UP LOG IN LOG IN
NO SLEEP TILL VOIP TRADING POST. I WANT A STALL AND A CASHBOX
lets be honest, even if it came up at 5pm the no lifers would still get geared within a couple hours. streamers would get fed gear by viewers
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My brain server maintenance will conclude after this bong rip. And I expect iron mace will be waiting for me
“Greed is Good” basically a copy paste of DnD
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you are absolutly wrong LOL, first playtest was so bad with DCs and stuttering problems most of my mates couldnt even play it more than 30 mins before crashing, the fighting animations were about 1/2 the speed they are now, atleast GiG is quite solid i spent about 10 hours in it so far, and have only crashed once. it wil be the casual DnD. just wait and see
dude that guy is pulling for like 40 lbs that bow has no damage or velocity he is barely drawing that bow and still shooting pretty slowly while standing still just admit you are wrong lol
@reef solstice i think its kinda trash. i got a key and played a bit the combat seems extreamly janky and the mobs are extremely tanky, i did like the ui but the gameplay and grahics were far below DaD
odds of DDOS after patch completes?
66.6%
50/50
37.84%
he is 70 and a history buff and nothing says what the draw is. he isn't a trained longbowman just a hobbyist and proves you wrong
Repeating of course
Hello guys, please is when patch #2? Thanks guys please
The game just lags too much for me. I get ran up on without hearing anything and hit 10 times by someone teleporting around me.
20 minutes
All the playtest and even early access has had server issues but your delusional if you think that game is any good.
should be up in 21 minutes
From what I understood armors are less powerful based on rarity. And traders sell more items. Good. Now nuke the trading post and give a way to reroll items stats or ways to sell the blues and purples to merchants for actual money
Odds of patch completing?
STOP THE CAP
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different folks like different things bub, i enjoy the longer fights GiG offers, wish DnD had that as well,
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From what I understood armors are less powerful based on rarity. And traders sell more items. Good. Now nuke the trading post and give a way to reroll items stats or ways to sell the blues and purples to merchants for actual money
1%
no it literally doesn't prove me wrong at all look at how far he is pulling and the drop of the arrows he is barely using that bow if he shot that at someone with armor it would do nothing that video is totally a joke if he full drew that it would take way longer lol you are delusional he said in the comments it was so old it barely had any draw
Odds of calling in sick to work tommorow so you can DD all night? 
50.0% as no delay notification yet
Hack wars are not static ones but dynamic ones. Hack developers will update their hacks if they can find profits in those. No anti hack systems can protect you forever from hacks if they can't upgrade. To at least decrease the cost of developing anti hacks systems, incentives of using hacks should be limited and possible cost of using hacks has to be enlarged for those hack users through use of proper systems to ban R M T behaviors.
100%
rogue waffle
Proper war longbows could reach up to a 200 lbs. draw weight. Not even the most skilled archers of the time -- trained from childhood specifically for the task -- could rapid fire one of those. At least not for any significant length of time.
I 100% believe trading ruins this game, I played 14 and under only lobbies and self found gear was much more fun. getting a green/blue set only took a few raids. felt like how this game was supposed to be played
Big sad, I called in today instead of tomorrow
My friend seems to be liking prohect crawl better. Says it looks better and combat is better. I haven't played it yet still at work
I quit my job early today to play dis gaem and then my wife got mad and kicked my dog and she left how do i play plz can wait
Project crawl and GIG can suck a fart. Ironmace all the way
Dang the Folks be playing DaD, Hoover said all Bros must play atleast 3 hours a day
😂
Is everyone trying warlock out the get go (hail hydra)? Or starting there main?? I need to know.
low, i work midnights and off tonight. perfect night for a late night patch and some DnD shenanigans
Joke's on you. I'm a Warlock main.
Really surprised they aren't wiping levels when they are adding so much. Especially the Warlock spells.
Yep and it lands a heavy blow on rmt/cheaters.
im playing rogue this patch (JK WHO TF PLAY THAT CRaP)
this guy posted a video of some old guy barely drawing on a weak longbow and said it qualified as rapid firing and he still barely averaged a shot every 4 seconds
but they could drop someone in armor at 200lb draw. and someone could shoot a 70-100lb draw for a while if trained for it. not while jumping around and shit but looking at this game through the lens of it being a game where someone who can sprint and jump in full plate, then the ranger should be fine.
did they say when the severs will be up?
fyi patch wont be until 45mins due to the 30min lag
Happy day for you. Congratulations
welp, the maintenance is taking longer by like 2 hours then expected 
4 hours after patch starts.
@reef solstice i find the overall control for fighting to be much worse, as well as no mouse sens setting and with poor audio and visual keys imo it makes the game just feel janky in comparison to DaD. the game itself isnt bad persay as its still early access but i think its of a much lower quality
4 hours*
he missed a lot also for a 1v1
quality of life is better, gameplay is EXCEPTIONALLY worse
they said 4 hours after 7:30 EST so we have 4 hours to go
Imagine arguing for 20 mins about longbow mechanics during theoretical wars over discord
Nah 15 mins bruv
did crawl and gig just start because the developers were just itching to play dark between play tests??
Oh boy I’m sure the servers totally won’t shit themselves can’t wait to play on Sao Paolo again
15 mins until the announcement that there is a delay you mean.
if you havent dinged your durgins yet you best get to durgin the dingens
Feelsgood, man. I'm about to go 10 spell, just to see what new buttons I can press. Though tbh, calling myself a "Warlock main" is a bit of a stretch. I play all the classes. Warlock has just been my favorite recently.
it's actually criminal how many times they've nerfed wizard but ranger remains untouched.
exactly, It feels like every raid over 15 has a fully kitted team or teams. id bet 90% of them all RMT'd to get that gear
For the love of actual christ, blow your nose and clear your sinuses before you speak.
And that's why Ranger has the perks/skill that let you draw faster for a limited time. The longbow in this game really isn't that slow.
I think there might be a 30 minute delay as they were letting active games finish before shutdown.
LMAO TRU
20 minutes
forgot my PC time is off from the actual time
Brother they should have started this shit first thing this morning
inb4 they announce it will be another hour
gold dupers probably
Out of touch much??
The good part is that IronMace is continuously updating their own anti cheat system which can be both worrisome and good news. They either get funds enough by banning gold buyers and cheaters (if those keep buying the game) or get rid of them altogether. In fact with the latest ironshield patch i found less cheaters for a while.
@bleak plover they made the announcement 30 mins before the hour so it should be in 14mins
If I’m not playing this game within the next 20 minutes I’m going to shoot my longbow 3 times within 2 seconds FOR REAL
I am SO GLAD there arent speedhackers and speedswingers in this one. those were a pest in previous patches. whatever IronMace is doing they gotta continue
Stop lying u got a short bow irl
QUICK I BET ANYONE 100$ the patch isn’t out by 1130
this update counts as a wipe too right?
Your technique is wrong. I can do it better
wipe it up
Loot wipe, but not character levels.
bros gotta slingshot not even a bow tbh
Fortnite
90% survival bows in here no doubt
I duped on accident once lol, i dropped my buddy his kit he lost the prior raid, he got blue out and I died, I didnt leave b4 game loaded hell and server crashed. I had gotten back all the gear I dropped my buddy. it had all duped
banned
WHEN PATCH
Ah yes statistics with no source and only conjecture because you were outgeared and outplayed
1 minute
we got him
I’ve been banned without even knowing what I did to get banned so accidentally duping is instabannable sorry kid
Game good. #gamediscussion
accidentally duping lmao
UPDATE IS UP!
when game
i just looted a full blue kit before servers went down, can't wait to use it!
troll
wipe it up
when do the servers come back up?
they are up now
what did you guys do now we have to wait 2 mins before typing whose fault was it????
The log in server is probably gonna crash after everything goes back up lol.
It's never the leader board are the problem actually. Its the overall gaming environment that matters. Streamers loot are irrelevant issues for normal players because those players seldom or even never play with or against streamers but they may constantly be in the situation where the whole lobby get stomped by one extremely geared R M Ter team. With no proper match making systems and trade systems, this kind of situation will be more and more common.
Straight into a ddos after that 
20 MINUTES
THEY WERE ARGUING ABOUT LONGBOWS SIR
Only an hour 40 left to wait bros
does anyone know off hand how many slots the stash is
@sleek fulcrumisnt it only 10 more min?
11
WHAT EXACTLY ABPUT THE LONGBOWS WERE THEY ARGUING OVER?
we taking bets if game goes live in 8 min?
81
oh that's completely understandable carry on private longbow discussion is peak male content by the way what do you think about the Roman Empire and its' policies
still says maintenance for me
same
I'm betting at least another hour, at least.
I'm in baby
May need be up until tomorrow. Could be hours
im in
bruh when will the game reopen its been 4 hours
8:38 pst games up
12x20
Technically should be up in 7 minutes
I don’t want to be in baby I want to be in dad
I'm seriously against the idea of matchmaking... I don't think it will work for this game at all. But i do welcome the mechanic of a solo self found mode where you are unable to trade and these players get to queue in the same pool. This SSF mode would be a huge and great implementation of the game.
wipe hype
Am I the only one already in?
I think if the game isn’t up at exactly 10:30/11:30 we should all complain about it
extended maintanace its sunday in korea
Anyone know what the 4 new artifacts refer to?
im betting another 4-6 hours
I already have my hand written letter ready and in the envelope
nevermind
six minutes!? right!? they said 6 more imnutes?! n o now its 5.
Zero2Hero could 100% be a game mode, solo only no stash.
almost out
🤓
5 minutes or what?
I’m on hold with iron mace customer service because I’m thinking ahead.
lol
Oh hey dude yeah everybody knows but you just keep asking and eventually people will tell you because we all know its just not you
isnt that what everyones been doing anyway?
the hero we need
@here any devs who can tell us how close we are?
I don't actually see any actions taken by them against gold sellers and R M Ters, at least nothing from recent patches at all. I get it that they are busy designing new content like quests, training but fair gaming environment is one of the key elements for new players to try out games and stay playing.
yo guys why does the launcher say maintenance on it? Did they close the game down for good? i didnt think it was dying that hard. Ive restarted the client over and over but it keeps saying maintenence? any ideas?
@Horace don’t forget about our duel in Sydney when the clock strikes midnight
When they give a time like this for patches is it ever accurate? This my first wipe.
It’s done done
Dear IronMace, I wrote you but you still ain’t callin. I left you my phone number, address, pager, hell I even sent you my wallet.
1 hour extended maintance theres no download yet
terrance is typing
Yeah game is dead may as well uninstall and forget. Greed is Good sounds fun…
Oh, you don’t know?
EVERYBODY. GET IN THE goddam PIT IF YOU KNOW THE WORDS. I want you TO FORM A WALL OF DEATH. MOSH PIT! LESGO! 🎶 row ROW row your boat! Gently down the Stream!~ 🎶
NOOOOO
Ask your dad.
boom
Dude i think you are stuck over this idea of gold sellers. Theere isn't a single game that was able to abolish them entirely. No one will stop them since until there's a market for it there will always be a product. They need to focus over new content along with the anti cheat system. WIPES will happen and freshen the economy for a while.
only stashable is coins, but maybe implement a way (like in osrs) where on death the player drops an item (key) and when you return the key to a stash or in this case maybe a vendor, it allows you to take what was valuable in their stash. i think its deadman mode osrs if youre interested in the mechanic
MORE TIME WHAT THE F
1 more hour
at least!

GOODNIGHT I GUESS I HAVE ONLY BEEN WAITING ALL NIGHT
I have an idea. check #📢announcements
WTF
bro no way
dark and darker just earned itself a spot on my letter. goodbye cruel world
Zephyr just rly wants to buy gold someone cashapp him a dollar
dude ngl im glad i didn't take work off this patch was suboptimal
bruh
cheaters love free to play games because they can rage cheat and they dont have to buy the game again. thats why greed is good will be terrible
EXTENDED

Damn Terrance shattered your dreams lol
1 HOUR EXTENSION
how tf are yall surprised LOL
the devs are working very hard, the game will be up in no time i believe
they do take action but annoucing the changes they make against it or saying they banned gold sellers would just advertise them more and make it worse if anything so for issues like this its best to keep in in the background
kek
his name is pink does that mean?
Rip
What are you saying? you didnt take work off for the previous patch? Or for the patch thats not even out yet?
For this discord discussion boards sins against humanity. I subject you all to another hour of waiting! Hahahhahahaha now complain!!!!!
Whoulda thunk
they extended it 1 hour lamao
Yes preach slay queen yasss
rage mode activated
RIP - patch delayed
huh
i cry
Cyall tomorrow.
I can't take this anymore, I've been going on for too long without my beloved Dark and Darker. I've left my wife and kids for this game only to be kicked out every few minutes. This is insane, madness! I've developed multiple drug addictions to cope about losing Dark and Darker for more than 5 minutes. I can't remember the last time I camped the last escape portal with invisibility, I need to, RIGHT NOW! HOW LONG CAN I SURVIVE, THIS GAME IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME ALIVE! Fellow- non dedicated- Dark and Darkerians tell me to go outside and read a book!? Nonsense! I am going to sit here and complain that the "devs" aren't doing anything about the servers. I am starting to hear demonic noises from outside my room, I will slay the spirit that dares interfere with me during such a morbid, deathly time. After an amazing battle, I've defeated the evil beast, I fear the servers are still down. Detestable, I will refund my $35 and pray the Nexon wins the lawsuit. I hate Ironmace.
Nah nah why woukd you EVER think your allowed to play the game
GUESS ILL GO PLAY LIES OF P
So great update the servers at midnight so all the people who have jobs are going to be 12-20 hours behind everyone else!!!!!!!!! Genius ironmace genius!!!!!
one minute???
rippizle
I can't take this anymore, I've been going on for too long without my beloved Dark and Darker. I've left my wife and kids for this game only to be kicked out every few minutes. This is insane, madness! I've developed multiple drug addictions to cope about losing Dark and Darker for more than 5 minutes. I can't remember the last time I camped the last escape portal with invisibility, I need to, RIGHT NOW! HOW LONG CAN I SURVIVE, THIS GAME IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME ALIVE! Fellow- non dedicated- Dark and Darkerians tell me to go outside and read a book!? Nonsense! I am going to sit here and complain that the "devs" aren't doing anything about the servers. I am starting to hear demonic noises from outside my room, I will slay the spirit that dares interfere with me during such a morbid, deathly time. After an amazing battle, I've defeated the evil beast, I fear the servers are still down. Detestable, I will refund my $35 and pray the Nexon wins the lawsuit. I hate Ironmace.
I can't take this anymore, I've been going on for too long without my beloved Dark and Darker. I've left my wife and kids for this game only to be kicked out every few minutes. This is insane, madness! I've developed multiple drug addictions to cope about losing Dark and Darker for more than 5 minutes. I can't remember the last time I camped the last escape portal with invisibility, I need to, RIGHT NOW! HOW LONG CAN I SURVIVE, THIS GAME IS THE ONLY THING KEEPING ME ALIVE! Fellow- non dedicated- Dark and Darkerians tell me to go outside and read a book!? Nonsense! I am going to sit here and complain that the "devs" aren't doing anything about the servers. I am starting to hear demonic noises from outside my room, I will slay the spirit that dares interfere with me during such a morbid, deathly time. After an amazing battle, I've defeated the evil beast, I fear the servers are still down. Detestable, I will refund my $35 and pray the Nexon wins the lawsuit. I hate Ironmace.
Spoken like an ignorant americian 
the people with jobs are behind everyone else regardless of release time lmao
wait until you learn about timezones. Your mind will be blown
go to sleep if you wake up early tomorow
I called it the game will be up in about an hour 30 now
we all shoulda seen this coming 😄
LET THE COPY PASTA FLOW
unemployment W massive
They waited until now??
west coast best coast
anyone on
Hey jokes aside, I am curious what is causing issues nearly every patch / update now lol
i left my job to play this game and my wife left me and she kicked my dog. why did she kick my dog??? now im sad i cant play my beloved dark and darker and i cry every day for my true love ( dark and darker )
why are the devs BSing rn
are there details for weapon rebalance anywhere or did they really hit us with the fromsoft dark souls 2 patch notes and said "we changed something, maybe, maybe not"
No one gives a shit about any other place literally 90% of their player count is USA
IM is a joke
fr
no patch what is going on!?!?!
CALLED IT LOLLLL
this isnt the only game that has problems. hell if you are a tarkov player you understand whats gone on here. Its happened to bsg too
There has to be at least a choice of match making, either it's non-trade gears queue or gear score match making. The game need some systems for new players base to try out the game and learn. Without even a new player guide rn and the sub lvl15 queue being abused in the game, new players can not even learn the game properly let alone stay playing or recommend this game to their friend which is quite bad situation for a live service game.
they forgot to press the patch button
Go Look Stream
how long untill game is up
Ironmace is korean lmao
SNELLOOOO
1hour minimum
Imagine unironically being upset about the delay, take a nap and eat a snack
literally the worst possible hours to be offline
Australians winning we got all day baby
WHY WIPES SO LATE AT NIGHT DUM AF
Both of those copied games literally can’t compete with dark and darker 😂 gig and project crawl are absolute shit
Based. Considering you guys pay way more for the game 
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bsg is a garbage company them failing is just expected
because there are different time zones
Australians losing in everything else tho
aint no damn way
sigh
im going to take this hour opportunity to test out greed is good and see how bad it is or if everyone is just being hard on it
Australians got Volkanowski
Congrats ??? You tend to your biggest $$$$ not where your company is located
who was the guy who said 15 minutes to announcement for delay :icant:
🌑🌚 Ah, the tale of the Dark and Darker servers, a saga that's eternally shrouded in digital darkness! You see, these elusive servers are like the mystical unicorns of the internet world. Every time you try to access them, it's like embarking on a quest to find the Holy Grail, only to be met with the infamous "Server Down" message. It's as if they exist solely to toy with our mortal desires for deeper, darker online experiences. Some say that only those who possess the secret knowledge of binary incantations can breach their impenetrable veil. Others claim that these servers are the digital gateways to the abyss, and their downtime is simply a cosmic reminder that the darkest depths of the internet are not meant for mortal souls. So, my friend, brace yourself for the eternal struggle, for in the realm of Dark and Darker servers, downtime is not a bug; it's a feature, a reminder that the digital abyss remains as elusive as the shadows themselves! 🌑🌚
they cashed out and took all our money. we wil never hear from them again.
damn game aint open 😞
Volk a demon Fosho
🌑🌚 Ah, the tale of the Dark and Darker servers, a saga that's eternally shrouded in digital darkness! You see, these elusive servers are like the mystical unicorns of the internet world. Every time you try to access them, it's like embarking on a quest to find the Holy Grail, only to be met with the infamous "Server Down" message. It's as if they exist solely to toy with our mortal desires for deeper, darker online experiences. Some say that only those who possess the secret knowledge of binary incantations can breach their impenetrable veil. Others claim that these servers are the digital gateways to the abyss, and their downtime is simply a cosmic reminder that the darkest depths of the internet are not meant for mortal souls. So, my friend, brace yourself for the eternal struggle, for in the realm of Dark and Darker servers, downtime is not a bug; it's a feature, a reminder that the digital abyss remains as elusive as the shadows themselves! 🌑🌚
they delayed patch #1 5 days ago and now they need 12+ hours on the day the promised the update to get it working.. crazy
When you had a bad day and your only shred of hope for enjoying yourself was the patch and then it gets delayed past bedtime. I am dev too. I love you devs, hold strong, but also, damnit im crying in the club
it took rust almost a decade to get to the point its at. if you enjoy the game youd have some respect for the people working on said game you enjoy
i wouldnt say bsg is garbage any more than ironmace. They are relatively small dev teams. Just some perspective on how big a task this update must be has me hyped when i get the chance to play
is there a way to download the patch before servers are up
im feelin' real glonky right now guys.
5+ hours to implement a 🇫 🇷 🇴 🇬 🇼 🇦 🇹 🇪 🇷
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yes pirate it
Major L, lack of transparency, just say the game will update on the 27th and let us play an extra day. Jesus
when are the servers up?
ANOTHER 1 HOUR DELAY LADIES AND GENTS
RIP everyone with a job, the economy will be in shambles by the time you get to play again and the Goblin Caves will be full kitted sweats again 🤣
Imagine your country’s saving grace being a 5 foot 3 man with a shiny bald head, that’s how far Australia has fallen
where you see that?
Flo relax jesus, it’s just a game
you literally had most of today to play if you wanted
How much is greed is good? Lol
at least 1 hour
is the game officially dead?
what a joke hahaha
Thinking every game will cater to EVERYONE is naivety brother. I agree they should add a no trade mode but this won't stop players from getting stronger and stomping lobbies. Not every game will be for everyone, and this game is a gem (just look how many copy + paste games have released or planning to) and it will only die if other get ahead of IronMace, whatever the outcome we will still have the genre and i sincerely hope IronMace manages to pull it off.
WHY @blissful dirge 
Listen, I know they're trying their best, but this is terribly bad. They definitely should've just postponed the patch for tomorrow instead of waiting until 6PM to announce we're going to have to wait 4 hours for an update on the game.
They pwomised 
8 spells, 4 uniques that are going to have special effects, wepon balancing, plus other thingas maybe not mentioned in patch notes.... have you ever made a game?
Lol it’s not good. Plays like a switch game that got ported in from an early 2000’s nokia phone
greed is good is free, honestly i thought it was fine game but its very laggy rn with packet loss/rubberbanding, only reason i stopped
Ironmace could skin me alive, drag me over a bed of coals, and then throw me into a bucket of salt. I don’t care just let me get dark. I wanna get so dark.
theres people playing all over the world just because its late for you doesnt mean its late for everyone, late for me too but faster they wipe the better in my opinion means i get to start getting shit again
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free for the playtest, just apply on steam. its fine but plenty of issues and just a replica overall but definitely more arcade-like IMO

so greed is good is up?
Why put effort into things that are getting deleted? you make no sense. I dont need character levels. All day is a stretch given the servers will have been down for almost 5 hours during peak times.
sounds like you dont work a job.
you guys are just angry because you're addicted to the game and love it and can think of nothing better to play. You're all my favorite little crack addicts
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I REMIND YOUR MORTAL SOULS... its a feature
I really doubt it that they are taking actions or if they took any actions, the effectiveness of their actions are quite dubious. As i mentioned, the Player to player trading systems are naturally vulnerable to R M T strikes. You can't at all track this behaviors. Yes you can ban those advertisers but those are the symptoms. With enough profit they can always buy new accounts to advertise on and on.
The Korean devs totally should’ve just woken up in the middle of the night and patched it so we would all not cry for 6 hours
For real though they’ve had enough time to make this go smoother? It’s like…there job and shit.
First time, eh?
yeah i mean the devs are probably on crunch time rn. why not just take more time behind the scenes rather than taking the game down for several hours
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should've nerfed ranger harder.
These guys dont know how to run a company lol everything they have ever done has been bad except for Playtest 4. They still made a good game 🤷♂️
Gotta give em a break they have never done a lot of this.
Thinking a massive play update was gonna go smoothly was probably a stretch lol.
thats it dark and darker is gonna be on my suicide note...
Everyone upset until we find out they took the extra hour to nerf ranger
what do you suggest cause realistically the only thing that can be done is to ban the accounts advertising
Or you know, atleast test your patching process with public or private test realms so these issues dont happen?
I know, I know. I'm just impatient and I wish they would've just said said it'd come out tomorrow or something idk
So, what are you still doing here ? we don't need crying shits like you
lmao 1 more hour. sheeeesh
Anybody have a rare/cool ign they'd trade? Dm me
Most of us would still be crying anyway
Just got my first extract of the wipe!!!! 109 gold!!!
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I really like this game and want this game to be better. However, the player base counts are not good rn for DAD. New blood are needed for the player base to keep the game alive and changes to make this game more new user friendly and game environment better are desperately needed.
They're changing all the stuff Grayson asked about earlier
if it makes its way back on steam thats solved, it wont be all us sweaty losers
It would do better if it was on Steam.
Skill Issue
Zephyr u gotta chill with the soliloquy’s my guy
Are there any solid leads on when game will be up?
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They want to be on steam but they were taken off of it cause of the lawsuit with nexon in korea after the lawsuit is over its entirely up to steam to decide to let them back on
does anyone know when the druid is supposed to come out?
It has been over 5 hour since I stopped playing dark and darker. The amount of sadness I feel is Immeasurable. The terrible agony I feel is incomprehensible to any living organism. The amount of despair I feel is unstable, unbalanced, deranged even. I truly can’t live in this world if I can’t play my favorite game dark and darker. I’m so miserable. I can’t take this suffering I’ll do anything to play dark and darker. This was my everything and you took it.
Thursday
Have they had a single wipe come out on time?
Does anybody know anything about the new warlock spells
Tf is project crawl
The change of entrance fee is an action merely for the data analysis purpose and wont stay long.
Thanks captain obvious, I didnt see the thousand youtube videos and articles about it.
They have literally never had anything work on time ever except a single play test, but they are green to all this stuff, kinda comes with the territory.
when is the update?
Does anybody know anything about anybody knowing anything?
devs stay up all night? thats pretty legit damn
no, might just go to bed
@molten heath Now since 5 hours ago
no they went to sleep and came back int he morning
no there is no known release for druid anyone that says otherwise is lying, Ironmace will announce a date if they can so dont trust a date unless its from Ironmace themselves
just wanna longsword game on my warlock with the new buffs
Whoever the fuck didn’t empty out their stash before the wipe thanks. Ironmace has like 8 guys who now have to go through every single persons stash and sell everything to the right merchants. Why do you think the wipes always take so long?! You guys don’t think!
okay any word on when it will be done
yeah I think they are magical spells for the "warlock" class in the popular indie game Dark and Darker
Another game in the same genre as dark and darker. At least looks and plays slightly different unlike another game doing a playtest right noe
eventually
Long sword, best sword. nothing compares imo
@molten heath at least another hour minimum
THATS AWESOME
guys I left my job to play today and no word and now its late word and now my wife left me and i dont know what to do with my life im having a mental breakdown. WHY DID SHE LEAVE ME... my beloved dark and darker i miss her
Finally the game is going to be fun again. I’d do anything for this game but the last fun thing to happen was Ruins
this joke gets funnier everytime u say it
imagine playing
Just like Diablo 4 the game will get better (hopefully) eventually and unlike Diablo 4 this is an EA. It will probably attract players which each big patch. The game is still fairly new (not even released yet) to already be condemning it and i have yet to see another game scratch this specific itch. Just chill out, let the game take its course. From what i've seen dev's listen to their players (most of the time) and sooner or later they will work a solo self found mode or however they want to call it.
GAME IS UP AND RUNNING!!
every game theres somebody
Im in tooo!!!!
me too!
imagine imagining. Typical bozonian L
It could but i myself are quite pessimistic about it because there is a refund system in steam. I wonder many who try this game within 2 hours may stay if game environment stays the same as rn.
when did it start 😢
when will they add microtransactions unironically, im trying to whale the game. once i can, i always get top 10 in those games. im good af at them
yes, people will
imagine imagining imaginary imaginations of imagines..... imagine
how long till patch ? who can say ?
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Same I got 13k saved up just to whale the Best Buy only gear and run it solely in goblin caves.
15 min
they will refund you if you call oprah for help
GUYS THIS NEW UPDATE IS AMAZING!!!!! IM IN RIGHT NOW!!
imagine imagining (imagine imagining imaginary imaginations of imagines..... imagine)
11:30 PM CDT
imagine imagining the imagined imagination of imagines...imgayines
use VPN if you aren't in for most it says maintenance
I dont think i am talking to you and i find what you are saying is not all making any sense.
based on previous patch results, we are likely ot see the update approximately 25-50% longer than original estimates plus at least 1 hour
Lmao damn the devs punishing y’all for acting up today 💀
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so rogue is back ?
Korea server is up
Neck
nerf ranger
dang this new patch is pretty decent guys I like the new loot tables I can't wait to keep playing
THEY HAVE DRUID!!! HES AMAZING JUST PLAYED MY FIRST MATCH
Be a lot of Locks in lobies
Damn this new character is busted
bro no way, one of the changes they didnt list is confirmed to be 2v2 removed and back to 3v3, wtf... i was literally enjoying 2v2
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Yes, i dont doubt it at all that IM will make the game better gradually. But unlike Blizzard, IM is a quite small studio and their whole profits are relying on this game rn. Bigger companies and studios can have more time and money to test things out but smaller and indie ones not.
That map was garbage
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lol
liar
It wasn't that bad, still a rogue haven, but it was a lot better than it was in PT5..
Didn’t Diablo 4 get way worse as time went on lmao
Not true, me and my buddy are doing a duo on the new map rn what are you even talking about. Dragon's den is sick btw

indie companies may not be as quick but the quality of the game always shines above the rest

Devs: 1 Players: -1
im here for the popcorn
PoE > Diablo 4

Anyone trying to do a quick 13 hour match if stellaris so we only have to wait 30 more minutes to play dnd after?
is the 15+/- lobby thing still in?
Will bards be able to heal and walk again
no bards will heal but they are crippled and in a wheelchair now
i like chocolate milk
patch is late? havent even noticed. been busy watching a movie with the wife and kiddos. we're about to do a snack run and watch another
whatever devs do please god never add another charachter that floods the loot tables like bard does
finding 4 (minimum) instuments a game instead of something worth grabbing is annoying
dang vr is getting crazy huh bro
you didn’t have to flex that hard brother
For now on when they say patch is coming, add 24 hours
You don’t want no smoke
stop flexing
Yes I don't doubt the talent of many indie developers. However, It could still be the survivor bias. There are many indie developers can't make it till their games get published. Many projects are cancelled before it could be shown to us players.
We must stage a giant "wipe out".... Everyone waiting for wipe, refuse to wipe until wipe.
Looking forward to playing
servers are up!!!!!!
IM IN!
Yeah, I'm having a dark and darker craving. But I have to go to bed soon. I've been working all day came home. Did some dinner hopped on around 6? And it was in maintenance mode. I expected it to be done like 2 hours ago.
Any update as to when the maintenance will be done?\
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hahaha servers up/im in jokes are so funny the 603th time
its already done???? Just click update lol
i just wanted to play dnd after a long day at work DX
based
The devs are practically at the bottom. Blame the top. Whoever manages the devs is probably the reason for this mess. Too much content on one patch and the team may have been working their asses off all day today. The company management is probably squat. There wouldn't be as many people shitting on dark and darker right now if their announcement had stated that their estimate was closer to the actual patch time.
I don't know why people are flipping their shit about not being able to play today. There is always tomorrow
cope
what if there is no tomorrow?
Because they’re all 16 years old or less
stellaris best paradox game ever?????
Jokes on u im 16 and a half
@weary wolf same All I wanna do is play DND and then go to bed.
well dang guess im waiting till thursday to play because its midnight for me now. its wednesday 😄
Does a void devourer eat stars?
im in my first game, the changes are wild!!!
good one coconutbill
ikr the new dragons den map is crazy
im in wow the warlock summons w ater elemental and 3 skeletons wwooa its OP
while this does happen its more rare after an indie game hits the spotlight like dark and darker has not only does it have a larger player base than most release indie games it has the support of many large content creators that will help keep in in the spotlight
Then that's not our fucking problem at that point. You have better things to worry about then not being able to play a game, you 13 year old
I came
I am not saying it didn't effect normal players at all. I am saying comparing to R M T Behaviors and gold selling the gear disparity caused by streamer loot is not that severe. Both these two factors are causing gear disparity obviously but for normal players, the issue of R M T and Gold selling is more intense.
aaahhh iI WANT TO PLAY
i need my fix 



That’s not the answer brother. Everyone who paid for the game and is funding this project has a right to feel any way. That’s why the devs give them a place to rage. Besides the devs need this pressure. Wouldn’t be wise to silence your community. Also not everyone has everyday to play some have real life stuff to do.
nerf ranger?
Dark and darker, should have done the update in the morning time? When everyone was at work.
Go to bed play tomorrow
dank and danker mid escape from tarkov based
they changed barbarians face when they should have changed his body and really if anyones face you should be looking at it is a warlocks creepy mug.
bro that blue hydra looks sick in game
they delayed it because they forgot to add the druid nerfs
it was wipe hype for no reason
more like pipe hype
lmfao they are theyre in korea buddy
delays update for 1 hour
Everyone has severe mental breakdown and loses all hope and faith in the devs
Why don't they do update on separate server and then move it to the actual server like other games?
u'r all gaslit scum. go look lake
Name a single game that does that
what is real
Oh, no wonder. US is midnight right now @flat bane
updates downloading !!!!
my man that is nothing compared to when tarkov wipes and the servers are down for 6 hours and they delay it for another 3
LMAO @sonic urchin clueless
bring these servers up i wanna play i got school tmrw
look lake = the euro version of touch grass?
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2 hours extended they said keyword atleast
when will it be up?
lost ark maintenances trained me for this
Idk about any of that, I’m just saying they delayed it for an hour and the responses I am seeing here are utterly insane
in announcements they said 1
see stream my bruvnah
honestly for just being at playtest stage. gig isnt too too bad from just my first game
BIG L
Y’all remember this name gonna see me on leader boards
no tf we aint
monkey
That's okay dude. We are actually stressing the same issue here. Thanks for sharing ideas with me.
Are you guys actually real ppl
REMOVE SPIFER FROME GAME how many time im died to spider mumy becos he is infinte coming from pots also are too quickly. PLEASE FIX THIS NONSINCE!!! who is does a spider to mummy anyways? you say somebody is go to dungeons and is choosed to wrap bandages for spider COME ON IORN HAMMER
No
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I love you guys but I am itching to get in there right now.
bro.... hop ontop of the damn pot and brake it.......
Respect
meow fuck out my way
Mummy goblins when
Was hoping Barb would get a nurf
SERVER IS UP
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he's speaking the language of the gods.
ranger deserves a nerf
Idek u kid but u touched my heart , see u in hr
for real lol
Good idea
Sadly i think in the game environment right now, unless one farms gears let's say efficiently 300g on average per run from normal 4-5 hours a day, it is almost impossible for normal players to compete for the top 20.
Go bed Gn





GLHF! ill be trying HR for the first time this wipe so i hope too see you there 😄
From the day we arrive on the planet
And, blinking, step into the sun
There's more to see than can ever be seen
More to do than can ever be done
There's far too much to take in here
More to find than can ever be found
But the sun rolling high
Through the sapphire sky
Keeps great and small on the endless round
It's the circle of life
And it moves us all
Through despair and hope
Through faith and love
'Til we find our place
On the path unwinding
In the circle
The circle of life
please drop the patch i am absolutely itching rn so bad omg like i need my hit of D&DER TODAY RIGGH TTN OW
ima go to sleep and everyon gonna be lvl 20 when i wake up
Remember this name because you wont be seeing me on the leaderboards
ohboyo ur gonna be disappointed, hr loot is garb
YOU SEROUSLEY?... SPIFER MUMMY does no since make... Who dive dungeon just embalm spifer??? NOONEBODY would do this... I WILL MAKE SUE
speech 100
boy english type good
any1 no how much longer i gotta b at school in 7 hours
why the fuck are yall like heroin adicts man this game has been mid since the playtests have been done idk how but i feel like the devs really fumbled on the release
FWIGGIN SPIDER MUFFEYS ALWAYS KEEEEEEL ME, NURF SPIDER MUFFEY!!!!!!!
Id say 12AM Central time
30min
i mean yeah levels didnt wipe
theres literally nothing else to play
you want that to make sense yet a human can go invis, theirs goblins, you can shoot lightning and fire from your hands, theirs a giant cave troll giant centipede, a huge ghost a giant necromancer king... but ohhh no noitt spider mummies... to unrealistic for you
Lies of P is pretty gud
LmAoOooOoOOO THIS GAME IS SO MID THAT UR IN A DISCORD TYPING ABOUT IT. LMAAAOooOoooOO EXPOSED
tell that to all the streamers playing the same game.
guys im in! my character is they/them now and im a fat black lady
There not playing it because it’s better lol there playing it because there waiting on wipe
OMG warlock is awesome now just summoned the hydra and damn thing takes care of PVE like boss
budget dark souls.
THOSE THINGERS you say they are since make. THIS PHANTSY GAME.... but who is does a spifer to a mummfy??? you say somebody want is go inside dungeons with purpose only to wrap spider like MUMMY?
💀 yes there is like tarkov, marauders, that complete carbon copy Project Crawl if you got access to that
I think it's pretty gud
shuttup
no wipe til wipe
I never said anything about better, I replied to someone saying theres nothing else to play.
When this game hits steam it is gonna blow the fuck up, it’s so addicting
who gonna tell him
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Finally we got Coin bag and Coin chest up to 500-3000 , and Marvelous Chests hehehe
any idea what marvelous chests are btw ?
Yeah I agree. They got nearly 2mil downloads when it was on steam.
yo boys
send more voice notes please
how do i change my clas in the server?
Ranger nerf 😦
OK spifer mummy shill
budget bloodborne*
i love me some spiffer muffies
read announcements it's just the new version of golden chests
OK NOW IM REALLY ANGRY
GUYS GUYS ITS OUT GUYS. THE PATCH IS WORKING. IM IN IM IN!
just lkie a chest with full holy treasure inside ,But wait why Ranger got buff not neft ??
an investigator, make it harder next time buddy
yoooo
someone send me a clash clans base design for townhall 8
They miscomminicate a lot, could be more to it, it is worded a little strangely
But real talk...Is Project Crawl the same devs as Dark & Darker? Because holy shit...samegame.gif
It’s the under developers nexxon
ANY CHAF GAME ENJOYERS GET THE GAME TO UPDATE?
how much longer we waitin, i just got the game.
wait but project crawl is LEGIT greed is good lmao
nah this one is pretty clear. Previous golden chests are now back as marvelous chests
greed is good is a great game
Patch not done yet
Feels clunky and slow tbh.
anyone else think the patch is underwhelming?
yea but we will have to see the changes to stats / overall armor
No, I think it's pretty neat. Excited to fight the new ruins boss
i just wanna play the game lmao
greed is good has the most creative audio effects ive heard from games inna while
This update is too much and delayed because the game Greed is good, the Devs want to complete it faster to beat those who use fake goods, admit that the fake game looks similar and the pub lobby is quite nostalgic, but still bad
Not really, looks like sweeping changes to gear, improvements to maps mechanically and visually, big class changes, etc
does anyone know when its coming back up?
This shit is still updating?!?!
DOWNLOAD IS UP BOYS
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yea and the animations are amazing in greed is good! so unique no game compares...
I long for the dungeons
All these nexxon paid actors in here smh
we might get another update on the update in 5
marvelous chest are the new name for the golden chests
Everyone talks about spifer mommy but what about spifer daddy?
Grred is good animations feels clunky and hit boxes too
another delay?
For real, I wonder if some are bots actually
😂
I have no loyalty to either game, I'll just say that outright. If GiG turns out to be the better game, I'll play that. But I just played it for 30 mins or so, and it's not looking good for that game. DaD looks and feels significantly better.
It has a clear english meaning, but saying they're "now back" is weird, they might have done something else with chests and not mentioned it or it got lost in translation
Anybody have a rare/cool ign they'd trade? Dm me
time check
you asked for me?
