#faustian-bargain

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silver moat
jaunty dock
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west nymph
jaunty dock
pseudo cloak
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Hi

silver moat
grim crane
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wut

west nymph
charred stone
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Bring player statistics button back to lobby

clear python
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wat da

faint sinew
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I'm the goon goblin that just got you btw

plucky hollow
plucky hollow
west nymph
plucky hollow
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We should get a arena channel similar to the class channel with a role to discuss arena kits

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is there any way I can suggest that? or are you guys able to send that up potentially?

west nymph
vocal mantle
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Whoa

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New Channel

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Pog

plucky hollow
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Im breaking the balance with a new channel lolol

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Now we can talk about Mob tactics

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Has anybody used a goblin mage as a goblin yet? It does crazy amounts of damage

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Ive basically done dealmaker quests for free stuff so easily now thanks to all the kills

jaunty furnace
honest holly
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can we get channels for each weapon type

plucky hollow
fervent galleon
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arrhhhh-aaa, I am a mob

plucky hollow
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what mob

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this is me

trim surge
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What da channel even is

karmic fog
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It’s a joke that’s what it is.

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Just like this game

carmine ermine
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What is Faustian bargain

west nymph
carmine ermine
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Neat

grand prawn
hexed spire
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28 affinity

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Loving the system

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@storm radish please add dragonfly and mabye a favorite mob toggle so you can get lower affinity mobs again on a chance

jaunty furnace
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faust i've come to bargain

hexed spire
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I want to be crab again

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Or slime

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But affinity is too high to become slime

plucky hollow
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Dirty faustians!!

neon raft
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bargain

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no embed

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rip

drowsy basalt
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Faustian Warlord when! kappa

west nymph
neon raft
cosmic thorn
unborn birch
gaunt bough
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faustian bargain

nimble forge
teal finch
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Does affinity do anything to what mob you get?

grand epoch
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faustian bargain

timber shell
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Who up faustianing they bargains

grand epoch
grand epoch
timber shell
frozen viper
keen wave
hearty iris
stiff patrol
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LETS GOOOOOOOOO

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now someone buff penguin

trail pawn
white fox
celest sierra
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Goblins on top

halcyon temple
stiff patrol
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bro pirates are the scariest

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pirates swim so fast

plain pier
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My favorite is Frost Skeleton Archer

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Mostly because absolutely nobody expects how fast that sideswipe comes out

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Has the bargain been reenabled in HR following the patch?

hasty hedge
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I question why the tokens used for bargains can’t be exchanged at higher rates for better quality monsters.

plain pier
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Also funnily enough they silently buffed Normal Skeleton Archers movespeed

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I think they're as fast as elites now

plain pier
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Because I think the only Bargain that would make it possible is Skeleton Guardsman so you can block the sideswipe

dense briar
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Joblins doing work in the dungeons

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Spider mummys tho... not so much

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Press 'g' reset, retry

celest sierra
plain pier
celest sierra
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No it isn’t, I misread what you said my bad 😭

static wolf
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Go GC way easier

next bone
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If I see such a poor misunderstanding and there are no other dangers around, I give the guy the opportunity to complete the quest)

gritty pawn
gritty pawn
frigid cove
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i fausted so hard she started to bargain

ionic tendon
frigid cove
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wait you can be a spider mommy??

nova ingot
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Is this back in hr yet??

dim hazel
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I want to be a spider pot, just spawning spider mummys.

tired cypress
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Imagine if u could be a death beetle
Just floatin around out of range waiting to slow a mf

deep nymph
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How do the bargains work me and my buddy haven't been able to use them yet

plain peak
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More XP you get in dungeon or at least more damage you deal to mobs or players increase your token count for that raid

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Most I've had was 5 but the floor closed lol

thorn ocean
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REMOVE THIS GARBAGE

plain pier
thorn ocean
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i kill a 3 man and the all get 3 goblins and focus me down when im stuck bcs pve and them i lose a full bis kit

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and its not happend 1 time

heady oar
thorn ocean
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its like the 10 time i died bcs goblin ar op

thorn ocean
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no

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ty

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why bro removing text

next bone
thorn ocean
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no it isnt

faint tapir
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Yo, new chat

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Only thing I have to say is if the goblins and shield skeletons shields always block even when not actually blocking, then player's shields and blocking weapons should do the same again. I remember when a longsword on my back blocked a crossbow bolt. Now let's see all Rangers and Fighters carrying a Pavise on their backs to turn around and tank hits.

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Really that should just be turned off and give shield-bearing mobs the ability to block and if they have a secondary attack, make it a skill

mossy anvil
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hey wish granted faustian bargain chat woohoo

azure remnant
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i just killed a decently kitted barb as an elite goblin and while it was fun it also felt bad

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I can just get free hits in like nothing

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this system is fun but also poo

tired cypress
quartz cloud
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Like if the first selection is in some obscure part of the dungeon, select another

hasty hedge
quartz cloud
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Before bargain, people steamroll dungeons not worrying about anything. This brings the danger back to it I like the idea

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Actually people still steamroll dungeons

nimble forge
slate cliff
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Has anyone figured out how it works entirely couple days ago I could faustian yesterday it said I'd have like 2-3 after I died and wont let me do it

tired cypress
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Frost Wyvern Hide for one Faust coin? W

next pewter
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What determines the amount of charges you get

timber shell
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who up straight gobbling it and by it haha lets just say, my faustian bargain

fluid fossil
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This option for play mob is the best thing in patch but i think swordsman must be nerf (pirat) to fast

vagrant flint
graceful hornet
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Killing a player should have actual rewards outside of the vendor

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Sdf is my lover

rigid jackal
vestal lichen
primal mantle
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Please don’t bring this shit back to hr

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Pretty please

plain peak
sharp maple
snow wagon
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forget the faustian remove nightmares atp

uncut venture
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The mobs for faustian need to be balanced around wolf (because its frankly the most balanced and fun to play)

Negatives that balance it first

  • it effectively cant headshot, and therefore deals light damage, and due to its lunge but contact range damage, it also cant really effectively hit and run anyone for non traded damage but unaware targets (and its loud as shit, so good luck with that) - wolf also cant break objects, so you can in theory use door cheese etc.

  • on the positive - wolf is fast enough however to be able to both scout the Map and pick fights that the player actually wants to take.

It had a pair of abilities that actually do something, and have potential outplay options

In essence, a wolf is unlikely to 100 to zero you if you just fight it, and can be avoided with actual clever play (doors, ranged weapons etc.)

It might be wise to either (and nerfing certain mobs speed will be a part of this later part)

Grant faustian mobs a directional Indicator to the nearest adventurer - whether that be a "universal" activated ability on cooldown, ranger tracking or other option to find adventurers

Or

Have the speed of a mob scale based off distance to adventurers, that way you can navigate the map to find them, but the cant do... well... current pirate things (close in speed should exceed like 305 movement, enough that you can still catch players, and potentially not get run down with smart counter play- unless your a ranged mob)

Lastly, faustian should be a "rolled" list of three different options that you pick one from (so you can both enjoy the affinity system - and can avoid mobs you dislike, most of the time)

reef osprey
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THEY GAVE US THE CHAT

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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I jokingly asked for it

wanton merlin
reef osprey
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i actually didnt check that

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would be crazy if they did not like they made any crazy changes to nightmare mobs

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ima about to unlock the axeman today with this next daily

plain peak
reef osprey
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super hype wanna try him out badly

reef osprey
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the vendor makes it so you can play plenty of bargain in one day and get some solid rewards out of it

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without making it something people are going to do all day and get rich

weak dock
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mummy spider actual TRASH why is it so high in the rep

timber shell
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sdf make spider mummy 50x smaller when youre doing bargain this

weak dock
timber shell
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no slow mode in here is kinda crazy

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I like it though

weak dock
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ezbloc

timber shell
tired tree
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Make zero to hero actual HR and keep Faustian enabled there

wanton merlin
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wait i forgot that mode existed

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but that would be so cool to play on HR

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nightmare skeletons would be claiming victims like crazy

chrome shale
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anyone kno what rep u need for the 3rd wave of new npcs for faustian ?

weak dock
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dont go past 9 rep if you want to keep gobbys and pirate swordsmen, its all downhill so far

chrome shale
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got no choice gotta see what u get at the end

weak dock
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give me a min i have a spreadsheet

loud kernel
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why do i keep getting the red lizard mob when I use faustian-bargain

tired tree
lilac ivy
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mobs shouldnt be able to attack and jump at the same time

reef osprey
reef osprey
celest thicket
west sonnet
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U should be able be a spider pot

summer sluice
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Do you guys think we should get gear back from goblin merchant if the bargain deal is a thing I think it's worth doing the bargain

hollow pier
plucky hollow
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ITS NOT BLUE AGAINST GREEN AGAINST RED ITS REAL LIZARDS AGAINST ALBINO ARISTOCRATS

weak dock
timber shell
mossy anvil
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human against all else, rahhhh

timber shell
tired tree
summer sluice
plain pier
pale tinsel
reef osprey
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ahhhh heck nah

reef osprey
pale tinsel
reef osprey
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it was a joke lol

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i was pointing out barb instead of the albino thing

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acting like that was okay rather than barb

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layers to that one

pale tinsel
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Ok kiddo

reef osprey
pale tinsel
reef osprey
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LOL

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this channel cooked

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<@&988703997378584596> can we get gifs in here please 🥺 🙏

nimble vector
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Remove faustian bargain

indigo quartz
reef osprey
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thank you 🙂

fallow axle
reef osprey
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i see LOL makes sense

urban gate
celest thicket
urban gate
indigo quartz
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(for legal reasons this is satire)

proven ridge
gritty pawn
unborn birch
vocal mantle
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new memes channel dropped

vital urchin
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watter map sttill unplayble due tto pirate swordsman gj coppermallett

tough bridge
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Think they need to nerf the attack speed on goblins and such, the fact they swing faster then people are crazy

reef osprey
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YES

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GIFS THIS IS THE BEST CHANNEL EVERRRRRRRR

plain pier
timber shell
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if I was in a competition where the goal was to forget to remove gif perms and graysun was my opponent I think Id lose

past musk
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How exactly do you get the Faustian bargain?

mossy anvil
ancient oak
glossy gate
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Nope just play gobo caves

plain pier
reef osprey
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What’s your affinity?

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I was doing really good keeping it max but one day I was only getting the WORST mobs

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And couldn’t complete the 500 dmg so I’m 2 behind now :((

ancient oak
reef osprey
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That was actually the hardest

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Getting past the first one

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I spent hours until I got my first hit

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I acted like a Skelly

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But then I got 23 dmg

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So I decided to try gobbo caves and I got a goblin after a couple try’s

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And then afterwards Ive been grinding that quest line since daily

ancient oak
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im alway getting skelly in goblin caves sadly. 24 times in a row and just gave up

daring geode
ancient oak
daring geode
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it's a 50/50...

ancient oak
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hell i dropped a bag and chest in norms before getting 1 not skelly run

plain pier
mossy anvil
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can you spawn as anything cool with such high affinity

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like mini boss or smth

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skele champ

plain pier
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Nah that's not till like

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REALLY high rep

mossy anvil
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damn i need to grind then bruh

short reef
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Would be cool to get a chance at becoming a boss. Necromancer roaming around the dungeon door to door would be an interesting twist

valid shuttle
# plain pier

damn. howd you get through the early levels without extreme suffering

fluid fossil
valid shuttle
fluid fossil
spark wedge
unkempt grotto
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smooth sailing after 1 affinity then its over when you get to 18

clever bolt
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what do you unlock at 18

stable pike
clever bolt
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oh god

chrome shale
hexed spire
hexed spire
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I can dm

hexed spire
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If you go watermap and kill every single spear skelly in bottom left of the map you will get pirates

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And you will help every other faustian bargin avoid skelly in your game

fluid fossil
hexed spire
deft mesa
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best class for mob killing?

hexed spire
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Cleric and barb

fading moat
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can you die off drop to get faustian bargaining or how does that work

hexed spire
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Purification on every map other then gc and barb in gc

hexed spire
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10 normal mobs will get you one bargin

fading moat
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ty

hexed spire
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It will be slightly less for elite or nightmare mobs

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If your starting out your best bet is water map to 1 affinity then gobby caves to 4

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Gooby caves is best till 10. Affinity then water map is best

gleaming venture
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how do you get tokens for faustian bargain ?

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nevermind im dumb and learned how to read

fading moat
hexed spire
fading moat
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0

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havent done any

hexed spire
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You will get skelly or crab

fading moat
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ive got sword guy every time and gotten pissed

hexed spire
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If you want you can kill all the skellys bottom left

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And remove them from the pool

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On water map

hexed spire
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That and there is one single skelly spawn on an island in bottom right

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But 99% of games someone kills it for the lions head

hexed spire
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0 affinity crab is the only really viable monster

chrome shale
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damn you a faustian professional

hexed spire
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im 28 affinity rn

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just wanna help people because its hard early

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gonna be 32 affinity today

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unless all i can get is white axeman

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ill prob stop at 50

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centaur dosent seem worth 20 more lol

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Honestly id just find your favorite mob and stop there

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I wish I stayed on slime longer

chrome shale
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im at like 15

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Ima keep grinding it

stark steeple
hexed spire
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Only forward

stark steeple
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thats odd

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i thought it would randomly pick from the options uve unlocked

hexed spire
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Skelly foot man is like 5% chance at later ranks tho

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For some bizzare reason

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I think if none of that mob type are available and undmged you can go back

stark steeple
hexed spire
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Like if I kill every skelly on water map i can't become skelly

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So it gives me pirate

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Ive been doing that to avoid the skelly variants in white form

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You dont even need to kill them just hit one time

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And they become invalid

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Like why do you never get slimes normally because they hit each other

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When they clump up

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And all the slime rooms are spawn rooms

gleaming venture
# hexed spire Only forward

wait do you have like the whole list of mobs? this is interesting to me i wanna see what kinda mobs you can be

dusky sail
gleaming venture
dusky sail
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No

gleaming venture
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then what are you saying ? 😭

hexed spire
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Nothing flying

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Basically anything that dosent fly u can be

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I wish they gave you 2 mobs to pick from

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Or a favorite mob

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So you can have a lower teir mob easier

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Pick a mob you love and level it up with the tokens for a percent chance to get that mob over a current affinity mob

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Might be a bug tbh mabye your ment to get other mobs

hallow field
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How do you guys feel about the power of pirates in water

hexed spire
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I think the water should be dangerous but pirates need less hp for players

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They are a little too tanky and too fast

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Atleast the white ones

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And they should probably have an air meter

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They are humans after all lol

tired cypress
reef osprey
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Ngl bargain is just showing how strong mobs would be if they had better ai

hexed sentinel
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I love it, only big balance I would make is slow monsters when they jump and when they land from a jump. Also put a cool down on jump so monsters can still get around, but less than players.

Maybe a special animation for jumping and landing for each monster kind.

plain pier
hexed spire
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I wish they made this a full on class thread

grave sparrow
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is there a list of mobs you get with affinity somewhere?

hybrid anvil
main timber
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Faustian needs more incentive, rn it's just a grief fest but fun.
Need rewards for killing player mobs / players as mobs

shadow pendant
rigid mesa
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take this shit out of the game please

main timber
tepid solstice
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Please remove this troll feature

shadow pendant
clever bolt
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can you get gobby

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with 0 affiinty

shadow pendant
clever bolt
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fuuck

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what affinity do you need

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'this skeleton shit is unbearable

shadow pendant
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If you go water map you can get the crab at 0 affinity

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I think you only need 1 or 2 affinity to get goblin though

tacit cipher
eternal holly
clever bolt
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going water map asap

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i need crab

tacit cipher
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doesn’t help that crabs are mostly dead since they’re a quest mob

shadow pendant
tacit cipher
shadow pendant
tacit cipher
dapper sorrel
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How do I report teaming in this awful fucking feature

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Fighting a fighter with 1 Elite Player controlled Goblin and 1 Player controlled goblin ABSOLUTELY teaming on SOLELY me

tacit cipher
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if it’s not high roller, i don’t think they care.

dapper sorrel
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I should not be getting teamed this fucking hard

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It's not even fair

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What's all the points of wanting to stop teaming but then do shit like this

tacit cipher
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roleplay i guess lol

dapper sorrel
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It's not even fucking roleplay

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What am I roleplaying

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The victim??

tacit cipher
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a dead body of course!

dapper sorrel
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Like who asked for this feature bro it's so god awful

tacit cipher
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at least it’s not in high roller

dapper sorrel
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Not anymore

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But it was

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And that already sucked more then anything

tacit cipher
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yeah cause nightmares were way too strong

dapper sorrel
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But literally losing fights to geared people in norms just because he could be pre-teaming or just teaming with goblins bro?

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Like

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Shit should be bannable

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Like I don't even get it

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Your goal is to kill anyone who aint a goblin not team with them as a second life

tacit cipher
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it’s in the testing phase

dapper sorrel
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Fucking stupid

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They nerfed the goblins yet they still hit and hurt like a truck

shadow pendant
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They were always closer to you than him in the clip, why would they give up a close chase, especially against a cleric

dapper sorrel
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It's just awesome

dapper sorrel
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And would break the door for the fucking fighter

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So he could just keep chasing

tacit cipher
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i would as a mob

shadow pendant
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All I know is what's in the clip

dapper sorrel
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I literally have a clip of them and the fighter just jumping and the fighter taking my shit and leaving without an issue

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But they hunt me through 5 doors because this fighter sucks shit

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And I'm owning his dog ass

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Like holy fuck bro

tacit cipher
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well, friendly does exist, it’s normals, teaming isn’t bannable

dapper sorrel
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That's totally fun, fair, and fantastic

tacit cipher
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if you want to

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it’ll be fun for sure

dapper sorrel
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I'm being Sarcastic you brick wall

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Being able to do that is fucking stupid

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You get assigned a DIFFERENT Team for a literal ingame purpose

shadow pendant
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Its only normals, you don't lose much anyways

dapper sorrel
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But if your just going to use it as a second life to team like

dapper sorrel
tacit cipher
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you’re trying too hard in normals

dapper sorrel
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That and High roller is just rats anyway

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4 rogues in 1 lobby

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Norms is basically the new HR if you have the right lobby atp

shadow pendant
dapper sorrel
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Not as much sure

tacit cipher
dapper sorrel
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But your still losing something

dapper sorrel
shadow pendant
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So you gear up and go again, it's not that deep

dapper sorrel
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I will be at peace when this shit gets a proper re-work or put under the works for being better

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Like if this shit is a consistent problem bro

tacit cipher
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go next!

dapper sorrel
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Not gonna enjoy the game as much

tacit cipher
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if you thought this was bad, wait for a couple of weeks and people will be able to play as the minibosses!

clever bolt
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win a fight and they all come back as centaurs

tacit cipher
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naaah, nothing is stronger than a white shark!

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yes, you can play as one

clever bolt
tacit cipher
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regular ai sharks are already good at spacing and attacking, now imagine a player doing that as the shark!

hexed spire
tacit cipher
hexed spire
tacit cipher
hexed spire
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Land shark

ionic beacon
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Wait I’ve done the bargain like 10 times and gotten a foot soldier every time, is this normal or just awful luck

hexed spire
fresh marsh
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daily task "excape gobo" level impossible

tacit cipher
keen sphinx
carmine ermine
tacit cipher
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fighting it though, is still hard to do

fluid fossil
scarlet ledge
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did they change how it works im only getting skellys on water map and im 15 affinity i was getting pirates all day yesterday

fresh marsh
tacit cipher
tacit cipher
hexed spire
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SO

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IM DONE EARLY TODAY

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im gonna be queing uswest and hidinhg under the bridge with my druid

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mabye find me or mabye dont idk

steep dust
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RIOT

hexed spire
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i think they fixed the only giving you high rank mobs bug

scarlet ledge
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ive played atleast 10 games with usually 2 tokes and ive got a crab and a bow pirate once each all others have been skelly

hexed spire
steep dust
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19

scarlet ledge
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18

hexed spire
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are you getting spearman

scarlet ledge
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just archer skelly most

steep dust
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yes im getting spearmen around half the time

hexed spire
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go to bottom left of the map

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and kill the mobs

steep dust
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they have to have particularly shadow nerfed the pirate

slate cliff
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what affinity you need to do faustian in hr

tacit cipher
hexed spire
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they are tweaking it

slate cliff
hexed spire
steep dust
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i want the pirate

tacit cipher
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think they mean to kill all the skeletons at the bottom left so you can’t spawn as one

scarlet ledge
hexed spire
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if u die there it wont spawn u on the same area

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so u wont get skelly

scarlet ledge
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oh ill try that

tacit cipher
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incorrect, i spawned as one of the pirates that killed me lol

hexed spire
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ive never spawned in the same area

scarlet ledge
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yeah i thought i have to lowkey but idk

hexed spire
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in 32 affinity

tacit cipher
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yeah my body was right above the area i spawned as a pirate

hexed spire
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then im wrong

tacit cipher
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that was yesterday though, haven’t tested it today

steep dust
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how you got the extra affinity?

hexed spire
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i kill all the skelly as cleric with purification and its gravy tho

tacit cipher
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probably did it from day 1

hexed spire
placid kernel
hexed spire
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ive gotten 4 every day

tacit cipher
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yeah 1 for the first 2 quests then 2 for the last quest

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so 4 per day since it’s a daily quest

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but the stuff the dealer sells is so good

hexed spire
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ive been buying the water ore

tacit cipher
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or like dust leather gears

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like copper and cobalt dust ones

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oh and rubysilver and gold

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would be cool to have gear that speeds you up in water

steep dust
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so out of like 16 runs i got pirate swordsman 1 time and it was 2 hours ago

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this shit is rediculous

tacit cipher
scarlet ledge
tacit cipher
reef osprey
reef osprey
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so you have the highest chance of getting that mob

steep dust
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its like 30% spear 20% bow 50% some low level garbage that isnt the pirate bladesman

tacit cipher
hexed spire
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Just kill all the skellys

tacit cipher
wooden bane
wide latch
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they shadow nerfed faustian

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rip

placid kernel
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how did they nerf it

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i dont see a damn change

glacial kettle
wooden bane
placid kernel
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im only getting axe trhwoers since i unlocked it so idk

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It keeps giving me the highest one ive unlocked tho

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So im stuck with spider mummy on goblin caves every time

rustic abyss
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I've only been getting spider mummies for some reason, is anyone else experiencing this?

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my affinity is at 20 rn

placid kernel
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yeah cause it gives you your highet and spider mummy is unlocked at like 18

rustic abyss
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wtf T.T why wouldn't that be a lower one

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that's so dumb

placid kernel
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idk either

rustic abyss
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no one wants to play as a spider mummy man

placid kernel
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i cant do it on goblin caves rn cause of that

rustic abyss
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fr that shit is awful

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when is the next monster unlocked, do you know?

tacit cipher
placid kernel
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yeah but you will still get spider like i am cause there is not a lot of archers on the map

tacit cipher
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very true

zenith timber
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You can unlock monsters in faustian? I only ever got normal skeletons. Do i have to hit people to unlock things?

rocky elbow
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How do you know what you unlock at what affinitiy?

tacit cipher
tacit cipher
zenith timber
tacit cipher
rocky elbow
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Mind linking?

tacit cipher
zenith timber
tacit cipher
zenith timber
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I'll try that. Thanks 🙂

tacit cipher
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only problem is that you’re sooooo slow and loud

humble umbra
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does anyone know why i cant faustian anymore? its like greyed out even after getting enough xp

tacit cipher
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but you only need to deal 25 damage for the first quest so it’s not bad

humble umbra
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wanna do the rest of my dailies]

copper bramble
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Wasn't aware this channel existed. Nice to know I'm not suddenly going insane and they most likely did something to the pirate spawnrates as of a few hours ago

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Unfortunate since it made getting my dailies done really easy, but the navy seal pirates were absolutely ruining things for everyone who wanted to play normally

humble umbra
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i guess theres a daily limit on the amount of times you can transform? they keep charging when i get enough xp but i cant use them

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unless im doing something wrong

copper bramble
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My guess is there's a limit to how many people can faustian at once

humble umbra
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well i have 3 charges so like

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lemme go in and insta kill myself

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and see

wooden bane
humble umbra
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oh

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wait

wooden bane
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7 mobs is 1 charge

humble umbra
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guys im just really dumb

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im tired and im loading into pve

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💀

tacit cipher
humble umbra
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as long as its not a renewable mob like a spider

wooden bane
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7 definitely works

humble umbra
wooden bane
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yes

tacit cipher
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hmm did a test yesterday and i didn’t get a 2nd token with 16 kills but 20 i did

humble umbra
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ive always done 8 and nnever tried

nimble vector
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Faustian needs to be removed!

humble umbra
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ill try 7 next time

hexed spire
reef osprey
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im still getting spiders pretty often

hexed spire
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Hate spider mummy rn without hr

reef osprey
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but im sure itll die down at 40

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imo bargain shouldnt be in hr

humble umbra
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just tried 7, ty for the tip 👍

reef osprey
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or at least it should only activate with player kills

hexed spire
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I think they are reworking the drops for hr

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To make it more worth to kill for players

reef osprey
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its just the mobs are way too strong in hr

misty fable
reef osprey
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you can easily kill someone gear

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on almost every mob

hexed spire
reef osprey
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if its nightmare

hexed spire
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In hr atleast

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Like an aura

reef osprey
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they need to make it so you have to get a player kill and you cant spawn as nightmare

copper bramble
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I'm not sure if pirate is nerfed hard in terms of spawn chance or straight killswitched. Can anyone confirm that they're still getting pirate spawns?

hexed spire
reef osprey
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no i play gobbo caves for my quest

hexed spire
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Like spider

reef osprey
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yea

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but they should also just get rid of spider

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or at least make it the starting mob

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cause it being 18 affinity is hilariously stupid

hexed spire
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Its good to have roadblocks

reef osprey
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i guess but i dont think that was their idea with it

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it seems like it worked out like that

hexed spire
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I think they thought it would be hr spider

bleak pivot
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any reccomendation for a map on 8 affinity?

hexed spire
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Witch has a root

hexed spire
bleak pivot
hexed spire
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Kill all the skellys in bottom left

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And you wont spawn as skelly

wooden bane
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skelly archer is broken on the water map lol

hexed spire
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It walks faster now

wooden bane
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got nearly 500 dmg in one run

hexed spire
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Juiced

wooden bane
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you can just permakite people in the water because youre so fast

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and annoy people by shooting them

tacit cipher
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but pirate archer is cooler!

hexed spire
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U should try survival bow ranger with trueshot and knockback

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If you like that

wooden bane
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its based and awesome when i do it as a skeleton and cringe and lame when i do it as a ranger

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do you understand?

reef osprey
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absolutely

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why would we be in this chat if nto

hexed spire
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I cant hit sht with ranger skelly underwater

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Idk skill issue ig

reef osprey
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ngl me too

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but ranger lame archer skell cool

wooden bane
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you really cant but its just out of melee range and you can cancel your shots for free

tacit cipher
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i don’t play ranged so i’m terrible

hexed spire
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Ice ranger skelly has a melle

wooden bane
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hr nightmare ice ranger was so lit

tacit cipher
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booooo ice range skeleton is too slow!

hexed spire
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Yeah

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I wish I got nightmare slime

tacit cipher
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they can just run away from ya!

hexed spire
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Mabye make it so you can opt into playing hr with faust enabled for better drops

tacit cipher
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doubt that, it’ll create another queue, they don’t like that

wooden bane
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just remove the jump swinging and make it harder to get charges

tacit cipher
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HR used to have 0-124 and 125+

hexed spire
tacit cipher
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yep cause xp based

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so elites and nightmares give more xp

hexed spire
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It just needs to drop like 3 coins and have an aura

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Like blue eyes and blue aura

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If nightmare

tacit cipher
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no need for that, since players can’t path like mobs do and the colors is a dead giveaway

hexed spire
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People will cry endlessly if you dont do it for hr

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Visual clarity is everything

tacit cipher
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no idea how they will do that in HR since almost everything is nightmares

hexed spire
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If they see you have blue eyes from across the room and path depending on it

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Your as fast as max ms players so

tacit cipher
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visuals wouldn’t matter if a nightmare player sees you anyways, they outspeed ya

hexed spire
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A visual is needed

tacit cipher
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Fight or die!

hexed spire
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Yeah

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Any way to make it less tilting but still fun for faust

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I want it to stay

copper bramble
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Had a nice conversation with a guy over teamchat earlier today about the first state of faustian, and how while it's fun now it definitely isn't being used the way Ironmace intended. Instead of being a revenge mechanic tied to a new dealer, it's being used by most players as a funny griefing tool because certain mobs actually have really strong 1v1/ganking potential which feels super toxic to die to

wooden bane
copper bramble
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yeah that's more what i was thinking when i was talking to him

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imo they need to either up the requirement for a token or make it solely pvp based. right now it's way to easy to throw yourself in with nothing, farm 7 goblins, die and spend the entire round terrorizing everyone with nothing to lose

balmy dust
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Can you not become a pirate swordsman right now

copper bramble
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Fairly certain they killswitched pirate, if not made it exponentially more rare than it was a few hours ago

balmy dust
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Yeah it makes sense but also the skeletons are so fking bad it’s not even worth trying

copper bramble
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Your best bet rn is just continuing to roll goblin warrior

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Which is made even worse once you get to the point where you can roll axe goblins. It's insane how bad axe is compared to warrior

balmy dust
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Yeah after the goblin warrior nerf it’s not nearly as fun

copper bramble
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It wouldn't be as bad if the axe goblin didn't lose all momentum on jump attacks. The warrior is still viable only because their jump attack still carries them forward a bit so they aren't full countered by just backing up and whiff punishing

balmy dust
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Yeah the fact they nerfed it is sad. Yes it was overpowered but it’s not in HR so who cares. I think they should maybe just limit the amount of Faustians at one time

wary spruce
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something smells......... fishy

tacit cipher
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yeah it got nerfed bad, played as a crab even though i cleared the skeletons

empty plaza
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why button is not active ?

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cuz its already 4 players in mobs ?

weak cosmos
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Faustian Enjoyers if you go to ruins or ice caves and die in the expressman room you can possess mobs with the bargain, i just tested it on ruins, i works to loot a little bit and then go deposit and do shenanigans

weak cosmos
nimble vector
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Idk why what the developers want is of any concern. The concern should be the consumers. Unless its all about developers ego

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The last thing developers want is their latest feature ruining the game because of its inherent toxicity!

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Just make a game mode called goblin rush or something where players spawn in as goblins to hunt one guy or whatever, if people want to play as goblins

meager hemlock
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have they disabled the pirates or am i getting really unlucky

nimble vector
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Its clear how this feature is only sabotaging for the people that survive the longest in the lobby. Clearly, good play is not rewarded, but going in with nothing, suiciding and becoming a goblin to ruin peoples day is rewarded. Which is just bonkers to me

weak cosmos
nimble vector
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Hmm ok so what feature will be added to adress the issue of players going in only to grief the last squads because they themselves are not good enough to extract?

shadow pendant
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its not hard to kill a player controller mob

nimble vector
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Maybe when you die as a goblin, you respawn again as your character but this time you have 100% move speed and hp increase, oh and you teleport behind the other players while your character says "nothing personell kid". Idk im just spitballing here but that would sound like a pretty hood feature to me!

nimble vector
shadow pendant
nimble vector
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The issue is the teams you just killed are allowed to come back and grief you. Players who lost a fight are being rewarded and players who survived long enough are being punished

shadow pendant
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its normals, its not that deep

weak cosmos
karmic fog
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its just foreskin bargain guys.

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its basically a meme. its not serious at all.

nimble vector
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Yep it is a meme, so why even wasting time trying to balance it? Just remove it tbh!

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Make it a end of season exclusive event or something

shadow pendant
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why remove fun

karmic dagger
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fausti fausti

late rose
plain pier
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Good morning, Faustian Bargain chat

smoky herald
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Idea is fun , maybe fix the water speed ,lot of ppl are griefing on the new map with Faustian bargain :/

worldly stump
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did they make a change to pirates? I dont seem to be able to bargain into them anymore

weak cosmos
stark steeple
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i would of preferred if all the hours it took to code faustian was used on coming up and adding new spells and perks 🙂

knotty yoke
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I love Faustian bargain, made my whole arena kit from it, although lvl 22 now all I get to control is spider mummies that are absolutely atrocious

timber shell
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good morning ghouls

knotty yoke
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Seems like higher you go the crappier the mobs you get

timber shell
knotty yoke
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lol 🥲

timber shell
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although frankly Id love to be a spider mummy and befriend a guy so I can use my spider body to fling him at his foes

plain pier
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I don't think the archers are that bad.

timber shell
peak herald
trim surge
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But still thete

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There

pliant coyote
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Player goblins are still busted, idk why action speed on player goblins is like 2-3x faster than pve, skeletons dont have this issue, and you cant keep momentum jump attacking as skeletons either.

Nerf player goblins hard

peak herald
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Player mobs just don’t really have an attack cooldown

pliant coyote
peak herald
shadow pendant
peak herald
pliant coyote
peak herald
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Tiny red angry barbs lol

timber peak
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did like 8 spawns in water map and didnt get pirate once, its shit now

pliant coyote
nimble crescent
pliant coyote
nimble crescent
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i dont expect it to continue that for the full wipe but yea perhaps

tired cypress
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Arena was a lot of fun with minted gear, I just wish it was minted to the account and not the character. Tedious otherwise

knotty yoke
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Minted was fun for those who had the time to farm for gear themselves I agree.. but non minted allowed for alot more people to purchase gear and participate at a competitive level as others

timber shell
weak cosmos
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WHY THE FUCK IS THIS FEATURE SO FUNNY!???

shrewd vessel
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Faust is some of the most fun I've had with this game in a long time. I hope they keep it and expand it.

weary sigil
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guys does the affinity on the dealmaker stay or reset daily? (could be a stupid question tho)

urban gate
weary sigil
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thank you very much good sir

teal finch
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Does the affinity only have effect on the vendor ?

placid flax
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Yo guys

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Look what i found

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Meh cant add a picture

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sry

glacial trellis
weak cosmos
shrewd vessel
celest thicket
modern turret
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I think if you Faust a monster it should go up 1 tier. Playing as a normal skeleton feels bad, but even red skeleton feels great. I'd assume nightmare skeleton feels spectacular

north mesa
modern turret
north mesa
modern turret
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God, I just gotta run castle Adventure to see

urban gate
shrewd vessel
gritty pawn
celest thicket
timber shell
teal finch
glacial trellis
little vine
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please for the love of everything remove base skeleton from the playable monster pool

white granite
white granite
timber shell
fluid fossil
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@pliant bay i Think Faustian-Bergain should count when you extract and give you token to be mob, meybe max 2. It would be good

white granite
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Ur not dead when u extract

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There’s no soul heart to put into a mob

timber shell
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I think it would be cool if every kill gave you 1 token after the daily quests

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Id never have to play as a real class again KEKW

white granite
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Real

fluid fossil
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would be great to have 2-3 chooces what mob you can posses after dead

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and official info about points you need to has mobs like high-tier mobs

timber shell
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somebody post the xqc reward token gambling gif

white granite
sterile lintel
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^^ me when the merchants be selling blues & goblin has a ring

timber shell
white granite
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I see

fallow axle
twilit hearth
hot canopy
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move the camera? you asking too much of this dev team

timber shell
sly wharf
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is anyones bargain suddenly giving them weak mobs? I had been getting bola goblins and red pirates, now im randomly back to getting skele archers?

lucid wagon
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All I’ve ever gotten is crab or skeleton. So I wouldn’t know.

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Even in goblin caves, I’m only getting Skelton. A regular one too.

patent bloom
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0 affinity, you only got skeleton in golin map

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reach affinity 1 for goblin warrior

lucid wagon
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Also, what’s with the skeleton in the golden key room? Why can you spawn in as that? You can’t even get out and the chances are slim if someone else will come there.

sly wharf
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im affinity 14, and for some reason im back to skeles on ocean map

patent bloom
white granite
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Spider mummies should not consume an exchange

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They don’t drop anything after all

patent bloom
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I suggest deleting spider mummy from the faustian pool

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worse than white skeleton

patent bloom
knotty crow
white granite
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Has anyone gone high enough to get the archers

knotty crow
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Yeah archers suck

white granite
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Damn

knotty crow
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without a crosshair its hard to aim

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Thats why I said bola goblin isnt bad. Cuz the rocks go far and have bigger hitboxes than arrows

white granite
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Imagine if you will

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Playable goblin mage

patent bloom
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if you hit goblin mage and lure it to cast spell, you will get a huge movement + action speed buff

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that's good enough

knotty crow
wanton merlin
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ARCHER SKELETONS

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ARE SO BAD

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I LEGIT GET NOTHING BUT ARCHER SKELETONS ON THE OCEAN MAP

patent bloom
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affinity 7 for pirate sworddman

wanton merlin
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I AHVE AOUND 18

patent bloom
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that's really bad luck for you

wanton merlin
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bro

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my last

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12 faustains

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on ocean map

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have been skeleton archers

patent bloom
wanton merlin
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i wipe evearything out on the surface of the fortress

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AND I GET A RANDOM SKELETON THAT SPAWNS UNDERWATER

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?????????????

sly wharf
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i have 14 affinity. yesterday i was getting pirates and bola goblins adn even the red pirates. today, skeleton archers??

wanton merlin
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YO

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they like

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shadowpatched the pirats or some shit

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i just spend half the match killing every single skeleton you can spawn as

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and i spawn as a crab

sly wharf
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id take crab over skele

wanton merlin
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actual bullshit

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yes but what do i have affinity for if i can't even get the mob i have double the required affinity for

round crystal
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Yeah because we need people finding the most op mob to crutch on and grief people with every raid lol. People already do that with classes and it's cringe, just play the mob you're given or reset.

balmy dust
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People crying about getting griefed by Faustian should just go play high roller. Being an annoying mob is fun and shouldn’t be an issue in norms

round crystal
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I don't mind being griefed or griefing, but if you're gonna start crying you didn't get the op mob every raid I think we're taking the fun out of it a bit.

copper bramble
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As fun as it was to terrorize lobbies with pirate, I admit it was super cringe. I don't blame people for being mad about it.

balmy dust
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Tbh the ONLY change they need to make is reduce the amount of people that can be Faustian in one lobby

sly wharf
round crystal
balmy dust
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Even the goblin jump tech was fine, it was just the fact that there were 4+ goblins every raid doing that shit

round crystal
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Don't act like it's hard to complete those quests. Or get affinity.

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Hop on goblin, jump headshot, 25 damage quest done.

copper bramble
round crystal
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Wipe a lobby on base goblin, mage buff, literally 3 tapping people with no counterplay.

balmy dust
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Coda man is mad he can’t play Druid the gold piles on water map without getting attacked by Faustian pirates

meager hemlock
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ah yes trying to get 625 damage for the quest as a skele footman is so fun

round crystal
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Good thing you don't have to play skele footman lmfao

sly wharf
round crystal
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Good thing they give you a button that lets you cancel and reset if you get a mob you don't want.

patent bloom
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to be fair, affinity 0 to 1 is cringe. After that is fine

balmy dust
round crystal
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And it only takes 30 seconds to kill 7 mobs.

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@balmy dust Just did it this morning, sure didn't lmao

wanton merlin
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yeah pirate iusn't possible anymore

balmy dust
round crystal
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I'm not mad it's the way it is, you guys are mad you can't grief and that's funny.

wanton merlin
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killed almost every crab and every skeleton

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and i get a crab spawn i didn't even know existed

copper bramble
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Somehow we're living in different realities where people can't just play goblin warrior over and over again for free damage

sly wharf
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someone got slapped by a few goblins and lost their bis im guessing

balmy dust
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He’s very smart don’t worry shadow

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He brought his full purple BIS into norms because he’s too scared of HR then died to mobs GG

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Or he was trying to money print as Druid on the gold piles and got smacked by a pirate GG

copper bramble
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Nah y'all are just mad they took the blatantly broken mob out of the spawn pool. I loved playing pirate but that shit needed to go or get nerfed

round crystal
balmy dust
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Nope it didn’t

round crystal
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If you wanna pull the dev card, they're the ones that nerfed it

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So clearly they think it's too much

wanton merlin
balmy dust
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You are acting like the people wanting to keep the pirate also didn’t get griefed by it

round crystal
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Goblin caves is literally free damage, got 400 damage in one raid for my quest on footman base.

sly wharf
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i actually never "cried" about it. i came into here and asked if anyone else was having the same issue im having, because as far as i can tell there was no patch. If there was a patch note saying it was nerfed, i wouldnt even be here.

round crystal
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It's either a skill issue or they're bad lol.

rigid jackal
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Can we please just have the list of mobs available and the xp to use them pinned in this channel at the very least for everyone to utilize?

balmy dust
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Sometimes you grief sometimes you get griefed

patent bloom
wanton merlin
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what is the kill req for one bargain point on goblin caves?

copper bramble
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25 damage, you don't need to kill anyone for these quests

round crystal
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7 goblins

copper bramble
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oh

white granite
patent bloom
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can confirm till affinity 18 this sheet is correct

copper bramble
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yeah that

round crystal
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You literally get that in one room, 30 seconds.

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Goblin caves is bis for Fausian

rigid jackal
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Someone pin it please

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itd be a great help

white granite
round crystal
copper bramble
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Just reset until you get goblin warrior. At a certain point you can roll axeman which is straight terrible compared to warrior.

round crystal
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That shouldn't be an option tbh.

wanton merlin
round crystal
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No one even wants spider mummies in the game base 😆

wanton merlin
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i went to go farm it in ocean map instead

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but theres just no good mobs on the ocean map

white granite
wanton merlin
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also fuck shadownerfs

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at least announce it

white granite
copper bramble
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Yeah GC is basically the only way to farm it now until you can get some absolute worldbeater like white shark

scenic berry
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How many mobs do i have to kill to have 1 bargain chance?

white granite
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Based on xp

patent bloom
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roughly 5mobs + 10 object interaction

scenic berry
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thanks

wanton merlin
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ppl team up against faustian players

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just had 4 ppl focus me before they continued fighting

white granite
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faustian is a stealth game now

copper bramble
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Like I will say they should rework how mobs function in faustian to make them not feel like absolute buns to play, but it's a fine line between that and having a repeat of the Navy SEAL pirates that literally controlled the water on that map.

white granite
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We either get unplayable mobs or unplayable maps due to playable mobs

meager hemlock
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the biggest problem with the swordsmen is the swim speed they could of just nerfed that shit instead of removing him

nimble crescent
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notice how it says TEST on the button you press to play as a mob? theres a chance they remove it entirely. the mobs were insanely op. there is no way playing as a centaur isn't disgustingly broken as well. cmon guys.

patent bloom
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centaur in the faustian pool?

nimble crescent
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yes at like 50+ rep.

wanton merlin
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yeah for 60 rep

white granite
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Cries in 20

wanton merlin
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you should get a token for a player kill

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not based on exp

rigid jackal
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I am a lil sad there isnt the absolute rarest of rarest chances to be the boss with no rep requirement. Would be so interesting but idk if it would be great to the playerbase trying to play the gaem regularly

white granite
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I thought player kills give xp?

round crystal
copper bramble
round crystal
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Otherwise the only people playing it are just doing it to grief people, because they have nothing better to do. Which is fine, again, but I'm sure the timmy ranger mining copper didn't enjoy getting mogged by a goblin jumping on his head.

rigid jackal
tawdry oriole
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Make it to where there are goblin/skeleton merchants depending on the map and give people the ability to loot stuff with creeps and if they manage to make it to the merchant and turn them in they can collect them

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Allow it to be player looted kills only so you cant just be weird and farm with creeps some how

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So you gotta go find action

wanton merlin
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if ur mining ore and ur letting a monster approach you its on you

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realistically you should never be losing to a player mob

small summit
wanton merlin
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they are slowly turning it into ANOTHER daily quest that is just gonna slowly make the game unfun

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becouse trying to complete the dailies for dealer is PAINFUL

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i've spent 2 hours today trying to max it out

rigid jackal
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What map are u doin this on? its a breeze on Goblin Caves

copper bramble
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The 500 damage definitely sucks, but it's just a matter of time if you're rolling for only goblin warrior

wanton merlin
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but pirates got shadow removed from the pool (thanks ironmace, at least announce it cmon)
goblin cave players are slowly getting used to it and is getting impossible (bards that spam the damage song wich 2 shots goblins)

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i couldn't even third party

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becouse people will focus faustian mobs now

rigid jackal
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Goblin Poison for dailies makes it a breeze and consistently see people do it in 3 - 8 matches

wanton merlin
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yeah

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if only I COULD FIND PLAYERS

chrome shale
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pirate better

wanton merlin
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I JUST WENT 2 MATCHES WITHOUT A SINGLE SOUL

round crystal
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The goblins literally 2 tap headshot

wanton merlin
round crystal
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Saying a rogue should be able to 1v1 a player red goblin is wild.

wanton merlin
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YOU CAN HEAR THE MOBS WALKING TOWARDS YOU

patent bloom
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I reached affinity 18, I can only get spider mummy now

wanton merlin
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PUT ON A HEADSAET

round crystal
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You literally can't beat that thing.

patent bloom
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lol stupid spider

round crystal
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@wanton merlin Audio doesn't matter my guy lmfao

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I'll just run you down faster than you can move because I'm a red goblin with mage buff.

rigid jackal
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@patent bloom thats one of the reasons im not deciding to lvl up anymore. it seems like being locked into mobs for certain ranks like its a gun game match isnt right

wanton merlin
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i have never died to a faustian mob

patent bloom
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I'm on my alt acc right now

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gonna get affinity 1 and stay there

round crystal
wanton merlin
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@round crystal are you american?

copper bramble
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I've definitely been seeing more people team on player goblins, hell I've done it myself when an absolute G of a fighter decided we should stop fighting and reset to kill an elite player gob. It is admittedly REALLY annoying when you're trying to have a good fight and there's this little shit with nothing to lose trying to swoop in for a nuke's worth of damage.

rigid jackal
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^ lil shit with nothing to lose goin in for nukes worth of damage. too real

round crystal
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People will cope it's not op because it's fun.

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It's fun, I've been doing it, but It's getting nerfed.

wanton merlin
reef osprey
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Yea definitely needs more adjustments if it’s ever going to hr

graceful hornet
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Love griefing real players with actual inventories as a little nerd goblin with nothing to lose