suggestion-discussion

[unkempt shale]

warlock not even close to op, anyone just can W in them and RIP warlock

only high MS demonlocks kinda OP

[paper apex]

And a good warlock will flamewalk and phantomize away, and can kite forever because he has high ms

[unkempt shale]

cleric, barb, fighter just dont care about flamewalk

[paper apex]

Fighter in plate doesn’t care about flamewalk? Bruh

[desert crown]

hard to balance any class if gear is changing so much of the playstyle even

[unkempt shale]

warlocks is super ez to kill if you just straight run at them, only pve can ruin something
just try it once

[jolly leaf]

Well that don't really work if they have Phantomize + Flamme walker

[unkempt shale]

it works

[unkempt shale]

if you think flamewalk do a lot damage, check this
https://clips.twitch.tv/SaltyElegantMarjoramKappaPride-BvPMAebcca0MIvop

[lost rampart]

the problem is warlock running from you putting DoT on a mob and being full hp not having to take downtime to heal with items. though this is only a problem in solos really

[unkempt shale]

if you straight chase him he cant cast spells since it will slow him down a lot

[lost rampart]

yeah but often times you are gonna get chunked on the way too him and almost never do you chase someone and they dont go through doors and slow you down alot giving them time to heal ect

[vagrant stone]

longsword fighter is just plain dogsh*t atm?

[blazing bough]

Always has been

It's not a balance thing, you don't have a shield so you can't block spells and a good melee player can play around your parry
You could still do well if you're skilled but I am afraid longsword will never be bis for pvp. It is bis for pve though

[proud zephyr]

Plz consider changing the passive on the Centaur’s Madness bow. It has the same armor pen as a regular recurve bow due to the changes in a previous patch. This could be an oversight, but for now the only difference between the crafted bow and a regular purple recurve bow is an additional enchantment roll.

[blazing bough]

Definitely an oversight

[leaden galleon]

nerf longsword parry its easy to hit and 2 shots u make it do slightly less dmg where i cant get 2 shot as a barb to a default longsword

[granite plinth]

So, will the falling rocks attack of the cyclops be adjusted so it isn't that RNG-reliant?

[full parcel]

Please make rogue cuthroat interrupt enemy special abilities like zombie puke or force enemy stagger

rogue pve is such a terrible experience, I mastered hell adventures as a solo rogue but it truly is the class that struggles the most in pve ong, neither weakpoint or cuthroat work on pve, de aggro monsters is impossible since you need a lot of resources (as in time and distance) to actually lose sight from them etc, it just lacks.

a terrible example is how overwhelming most scenarios can be, especially the axe man nightmare skeleton, capable of ONE SHOTTING my rogue, if its the weakest and even one shotable class, make it able to stagger enemies or weakpoint to deal massive damage

also please balance enemy hp pools with armor pools to reward players that use armor penetration, and even reward organized trio players against enemy variety, for example rotating between dps, armor pen and magical damage, even situational magical damage like divine

hire me🗣️ ik how to code rahh xd

[obtuse osprey]

I think we should buff wizard guys, like cmon

[shell canopy]

Nan it just a firework when there a wizard around we should more nerf warlock healing

[jolly leaf]

That's something I agree with. Look at that and upvote if you like the idea https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

[prisma sphinx]

WHY DO I NEED TO HAVE PURPLE/LEGENDARY GEAR FOR NORMALS??????? If the devs can answer that question without sounding like complete idiots I would be impressed. Edit: Obviously the suggestion is to add gear score.

[shell canopy]

You are not obligated to have so much good stuff for normal you can play with blue and it fine

[dense seal]

You can't go in more than a green item. Over 25 people are almost as geared as roller

[prisma sphinx]

Blue<Legendary

[graceful ermine]

gear score ranges do exist! below 24, 25-124, over 125

[prisma sphinx]

is the 25-125 normals or HR?

[graceful ermine]

normals, HR has no brackets

[prisma sphinx]

1 step in the right direction but now ppl have to farm from green gear all the way to legendary by playing 124 normals

[graceful ermine]

in blues/green you can put up a fight against purps/legnedary

it's a disadvantage of course, but absolutely overcome able

[jolly leaf]

That's true only if you fight someone who's under your level. You'r not the first I see saying that but that take work only if you fight someone who's weaker than you. If you fight someone who's as good or better than you then no, you can't put up a fight against purps/legendary with green/blue gear

And most of the time people with Purp/legendary gear are good player

[graceful ermine]

true! but if that's not the case, then gear is meaningless. I think it should be an advantage, but maybe not as much of one as it is now

[jolly leaf]

Yes but then you sentence is true only in like 10 maybe 20% of those kind of fight. You never see really bad player with very good gear

[graceful ermine]

I disagree! I find a lot of people in good gear are not insanely good at the game. while most are goo, I'd say it's still a normal distribution of skill (like centered around average with people both ways

[jolly leaf]

Well you're just making a statement but most people use this argument to say that we don't need gearscore in HR because "If you're good you can kill people with better gear". And that a bad/useless argument cause most of those kind of fight are against good player that are at least as good as you

[graceful ermine]

oh we definitely need brackets, I for sure agree. Just the range of each bracket I'm not sure of

[jolly leaf]

Ok, maybe i'm exaggerating thing but I really feel like most of the green/blue vs purps/legendary fight are automatically lost as people who have that kind of gear are not bad at the game

[jolly leaf]

Imo it should be : Grey to Green + 1 or 2 blue piece -> Green/Blue to Blue + 1 or 2 Purple piece -> Everything above that

[graceful ermine]

true! I think that the higher geared person will generally win more, that's a given. Just how much of an advantage gear gives is for sure debateable

[jolly leaf]

Well in a fight between two good player the team with the better gear win

[graceful ermine]

oh ok! I like that layout. maybe only 1 purple armor piece? like purple weapons are reserved for the high bracket?

[jolly leaf]

But I understand that you want to say that even with slightly better or worst gear you can still win a fight but imo that difference is like one rarity away, not more. At equivalent lvl you can maybe win vs someone with blue gear if you have green, but you wont win vs purple gear

@graceful ermine Yep that would be the idea. One or 2 armor piece, purple weapon would make you in the next bracket

[graceful ermine]

definitely agree. Any more than 1 rarity away and it would take a lot of skill to make the difference. I like it! maybe go off of a count of each rarity that you have instead of a score?

[jolly leaf]

That's what I think too, gearscore based on gear rarity and not a number

[graceful ermine]

how would we count consumeables? just as adding on as another count of that rarity?

[jolly leaf]

I didn't think it that far, but yes maybe with an other count for consumable

[graceful ermine]

I don't think they have too much of an impact on the fight, don't really see anyone but ultra-BIS people stacking blue consumeables. yeah just count them like the others

[jolly leaf]

Yeah I think that too, but in the past people (mainly Barb) used to stack a ton of Franscica or things like that. That's why they count consumable in gearscore

[prisma sphinx]

Base the brackets on consistent progression. Also, change the loot/mob strength in each bracket as well

[graceful ermine]

that's interesting! instead of HR/ normals, just 3 separate ques.so instead of 4 per map, it's down to 3, I like it

[jolly leaf]

I think we still need a normal mode with very low gear for new player to learn the game

[graceful ermine]

hm that's very fair, don't think we should get rid of the <25 lobbies

[jolly leaf]

Imo we should even go back to the common gear only.

[graceful ermine]

agree. common and below, green with limited blue. then blue and purple and then anything, or just anything?

[civic seal]

fighter’s shield bash should do more damage if youre using the lantern shield

[leaden galleon]

1. Nerf longsword parry . It takes 2 mins to learn how to do it and its easy af and kill 2 tap a full geared person with ease. Suggestion , make them do less damage.
2. Nerf worlock . The fact someone can spam the same spell that takes no skill to hit and do 1/5 of my health makes 0 sense and then also making it so they have another spell which makes them get all their health back instantly is even stupid. Suggestion , make it so they cant get their health back so it actually takes some skill instead of just spamming the same thing without consequences .

[jolly leaf]

I agree about the Warlock but that would be a too big nerf. imo that would be the sweet spot https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

[graceful ermine]

agree the riposte damage should be nerfed, but buff something else on the weapon since the riposte is the only good part of it. warlocks def are annoying to deal with, healing and phantomize combined make for a frustrating style to play against

[leaden galleon]

Just read it, that is a good idea but instead of a spell it should be a skill instead which would allow you to recover half the total health of the person that you killed when they died

[leaden galleon]

As long as Im not being 2 shot by a default longsword idrc what they change on it xD

[graceful ermine]

reset mechanics are a pain in the ass to balance, I think they're trying to avoid them. maybe just have it be more of a time commitment to heal compared to how fast it is now

[leaden galleon]

I just think that being able to heal instantly to full from your own spell its pretty stupid

[jolly leaf]

Well that will do the trick https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic. Partial heal and if they want to full heal they need to drink potion or use Shadow touch

[graceful ermine]

ohhh ok that is very clever, big fan of that

[jolly leaf]

Ty, it's my idea xD UPvote it if you like

[leaden galleon]

They should make it so you cant heal off your own stuff as well

[jolly leaf]

Maybe but that's less an issues if you can only heal recoverable health

[leaden galleon]

yeah but the thing about only healing to recoverable health is that its still like 3/4 of your total health

[jolly leaf]

Maybe make heal less efficient on the hydra as a beginning

[leaden galleon]

make it so you only get half as much health from hydra , make it so you can only recieve health on kill . I think these 2 with a bit of tweaking on the second would be good

just anything as long as they cant spam spells without having to worry that they cant get their health back in 2 seconds

[crystal agate]

Make skins like the female elf override the original male voice so when im wearing a female elf or other female skin i don't sound manly ash 😭

[jolly leaf]

Here's some really cool Suggestions about,
Rogue rework (To replace landmine) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

Warlock rework (to change the healing mechanics) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

And adding more point of interest to the map (To improve PvP and PvE): https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

Upvote if you like any of them

[leaden galleon]

honestly until they nerf warlock this shit is just boring u cant go into a hr without seeing a warlock just spamming spells from 10m away and running invisible when you get close to him

[median mural]

Let squire have a pickaxe to choose as well pls. k thx

[faint dirge]

I feel like there are many many spots where you can loot on crypts

But many spots just suck to path through, so majority just end up pathing to the same spots because they are semi forced to do so

[jolly leaf]

That's true, there is many room with Royal coffin or a few Lion's head/ gold chest chest but the game lack of real point of interest. I especially like the Forge idea, for exemple they could add it to implement the Gem and Socket system they talked about in the last Q&A. You could have a merchant, like the goblin merchant, collector etc that allow to add socket/put gem on your item but will cost you gold and take time or have % of failling. But you can also take the risk to bring your item/gem in game and go to the Forge module to do the same thing for free, without waiting/with 100% success rate. I'm talking of Objective like that, thing you start a run to go to. Like boss, gold room, the pile room in Ice cavern back then

[silver dock]

I think Warlock healing shouldn't gain recoverable health if they run Torture Mastery. It's really a fair enough trade if they'll be healing anyways.

[deep laurel]

Why does Eldritch shield consume shards when it gains no benefits from it?

[blazing bough]

Because of how the souls work. They are consumed when casting a darkness spell

[swift iris]

are they ever gonna add match replay or the ablity to record a match like in R6 or fornite???

[jolly leaf]

Maybe one day but not soon. I'm not sure but I wouldn't be surprised that this kind of feature is expensive because it need server to record and stock the replay and Ironmace is a small studio

[whole dust]

i know a lotta ppl be mad abt this but there shd be only be 1 player per class per party, instead of 3 warlocks or 3 clerics etc

[jolly leaf]

Actually why not, you'r the first person I see suggesting that and I like the idea. Maybe not in Normal but in HR sure

[whole dust]

its fucking mental dealing with hydra over hydra and phantomize over phantomize

[whole dust]

whats the command to make the suggestion

[dapper gull]

Nerf warlock healing or make it so they can’t heal to full from their hydra without killing it. They can just curse of pain their own hydra and it’ll stay full hp

[jolly leaf]

I made that suggestion that I think would balance the healing of Warlock https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic Upvote it if you like

[whole dust]

they shd not be able to heal off their own hydra

[dapper gull]

I think if they want locks to heal off hydra they need to put a longer cd for hydra

[blazing bough]

Warlock really is the noob-stomper huh

[dapper gull]

No but you know warlocks are too strong when they’re a better choice for two other classes

[merry glen]

why cant we have offline raids

i really want to practice the bosses but i can only consistently get to fight it by myself once every 10 to 15 minutes without someone running in and ruining it

makes it extremely aggravating

[inland raft]

Remove additional memory capacity and additional memory bonus from Barbarian equipment

[surreal sage]

but what if i have alzheimer's

[median mural]

Let squire have a pickaxe to choose as well pls. k thx

[jolly leaf]

And a lantern

[upper hearth]

They should add a poison wheel for rogue that allows you to use a variety of debuffs similar to druids forms. Anything but this landmine bs is a welcome change

[grand umbra]

Please add a "Back to Lobby" button from death cam 👉 👈

[half pewter]

Pls rework a magic sword, it need more damage

[jolly leaf]

I saw someone suggest to make it give a small amount of spell recovery each time you hit something

[jolly leaf]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons Upvote it

[half pewter]

In theory, a wizard can be assembled through close combat, but due to the fact that he only carries a crystal sword and a dagger, this becomes almost impossible. as an option. Give him a short sword, but then it will be necessary to remove it from the secondary weapon (by the way, in 100 hours of the game I saw it only from a fighter a couple of times, it also needs to be rework)

[jaunty turtle]

ironmace, I have 2 suggestions here

first one, the ability is autofill when matchmakinh if desired.

second one is to not waste abilities in the actual match if they're used in the waiting lobby.

[inland raft]

😦 that's not funny, and this stat is annoyingly on too many items :/

[tired osprey]

Please change it so that the rocks falling down do reduced damage, keep the splash damage so that the skill of timing jumps is there but the rng headshots are not fun to deal with especially if multiple hit you on the head at once even after a perfect jump.

[drifting vector]

For skill tree; I do like what you attempted, However I feel it would be much more reliable, if.

You were to take more time in the development of it, possibly reworking it entirely, to implement custom dual classes that unlock through the skill tree; Ex. (Warlock hits lvl 30, yet the player has also had a rogue at lvl 30 prior to the warlock.) in doing so a tab would be opened in the skill tree for Rogue, which would allow the warlock player to slowly start to invest into that class itself, reaching a peak of a custom made class such as Shadowmancer Giving them new unique perks and abilities to choose from.

In return the players themselves would be able to respec the points at a price, (for if they raise a third class to 30 and want to dual into it)

I do understand that this style would take much time to be in the making, however I believe that it would be suitable to buff/nerf dual classing in a more easy like fashion.

As it would develop more within the developers; more improvement could be made to possible even triple class in the far future with it.

[wraith urchin]

I mean if there’s free one more slots for character that will be great like I can try a character without deleting a character that I have been playing since the start of free to play maybe add for some demand for that one slot for coin or something just to prevent from hacker or whatever

[chrome estuary]

WE WANT FISHING!

[remote whale]

need this

[remote whale]

add a questline for tavernmaster to unlock a free char slot or something to that extent tbh

[jolly leaf]

No it's an inventory stash not a character slot

[proven finch]

God damn Clerics are OP. Hit one 6 times with a felling Axe and not even Half HP

[jolly leaf]

You need to wait for the Divine protection (The 30% PDR skill) to end

[proven finch]

I did ran away and was throwing Franny's the whole time

Then proceeded to get 2 tapped

[jolly leaf]

But yes they're really strong right now but they've been nerfed the last two hotfix. They'll continue nerfing it if Cleric is still too strong

[proven finch]

Good at least they're trying to be on top of it

[granite plinth]

Do you guys find mob aggro a problem? To me its a little much that mobs are being aggroed on the floor above or beneath me without line of sight. I get it if a mob has a cry for help mechanic, but its a bit much when mobs are being aggroed because i took a step into their location on the z axis

[proven finch]

I don't think it's that bad, also if you're referring to the Kobolds when they do that scream when they're about to die it calls more

[jolly leaf]

If you're talking of the Kobold in Ice Cavern then yes when they scream it's a cry for help

[granite plinth]

Nah kobolds are fine. Im talking about anything else. Like if im in elevator room on goblin caves why is the giant centipede locking in on me when im above them

[proven finch]

Yea the Centipede is weird probably not enough space between the floors to keep him from attracting

[granite plinth]

Same thing goes for skeletons activating when Im above them or beneath them. Seems the range of aggro or activation in the Z axis is fairly large

[brave quiver]

maybe rogue not kill in 3 hits

[stray kindle]

they really need to start ironing out druid bugs, like carrying an enemy on your back as a rat when you run under them, there's no way that they should ride my hurtbox like that

[somber wind]

I feel like Multiclassing would be fine to come back if they were to do 2 things specifically:

• Each Skill, Perk and Spell has a value similar to Spell Memory Cost. You can only have a value of 10 equipped at a time and it cannot be increased.
• Some Perks, Skills and Spells are "Pure" which means they cannot be multiclassed requiring you to use the base class to use those. Hide for example should be Pure for Rogue.

[jolly leaf]

That's probably what they'll do or something similar. They said that the new version of multiclassing should be work on/available next season

[somber wind]

Sauce? I thought I heard stuff about that but I don't remember from where.

I had the idea for Uniques that can only come from the Reward Tokens and Goblin Trader; decided to come up with a few that were inconsequential to combat that could be from it:

• Blood Sport (Amulet): Grants you 50 gold upon killing a miniboss, boss or non-ally player. Grants an additional 10 gold for kills in quick succession (10 seconds between eachother) for enemies that don't respawn.

• Silver Tongue (Feathered Hat): Items in a container you open have a 10% chance to become gold equal to the price that a merchant would pay for it when you first open it.

• Windfall (Amulet): Generates 25 Gold every 3 minutes split between as many slots as possible.

• Key Ring (Ring): 50% chance to keep lockpicks upon failure, 75% chance on success. Chances stack additively with an additional Key Ring.

• Plunderer (Leather Bonnet): 8% chance for an additional piece of loot to appear in chests, enemies and from loot piles when searched.

• Avarice (Amulet): Gives 1500 Coins when equipped, takes 1500 coins when unequipped. Cannot be unequipped if you cannot pay it back. Doesn't drop on death if in amulet slot and is kept between deaths in the amulet slot.

[jolly leaf]

Check the last Q&A they did on Onepeg's youtube channel

[somber wind]

They didn't exactly say it was coming back, I did interpret it as that but it's still vague enough that it doesn't confirm it

[jolly leaf]

Yeah but they kinda stay vague on purpose about almost everything. But I remember them giving an approximation for a date. And from what they said after they removed the Multiclassing it will probably look more like a sub class system or skill tree where you can pick between certain perk of other class.

Here's some really cool Suggestions about,
Rogue rework (To replace landmine) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

Warlock rework (to change the healing mechanics) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

And adding more point of interest to the map (To improve PvP and PvE): https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

Upvote if you like any of them

[somber wind]

cough cough check out some of mine from awhile back as well cough cough

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/511902/lantern-perk-for-fighter

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/489940/buff-priority-a-solution-to-issues-with-stacking-support-classes-and-buff-ball

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/481232/cleric-perk-favored-blessing

[jolly leaf]

Nice I like the Buff priority idea I upvoted those I liked!

[somber wind]

Thanks ^-^

[stray kindle]

crazy that there's no report voip option, people can straight up call you slurs and get away with it

[somber wind]

VOIP is half baked right now due to the prices of maintaining it, they'll do more soon

[proven finch]

Warlock Rework would be kinda sick ngl then all the shi**ers would have to actually get good

[steady jungle]

Why cant f2p players get 2 character slots? i feel like just 1 is extremely restrictive and doesnt let you experiment at all

essentially forcing a second steam account just to try a different class

[forest hearth]

Or just buy the full game lol

[steady jungle]

some people cant afford it

[forest hearth]

U Brazilian or something?

[steady jungle]

who cares about that? 2 character slots for f2p seems reasonable to me

[small ibex]

add an extra utility slot on each belt

[tacit crane]

bring back gear score. like yesterday. all these try hard trolls rolling normals in 500+ GS

[half pewter]

Add more information - there are several types of magic in the game, but the application of a particular spell is difficult to understand - add more information with a spell and more lines with protection from magic to detailed statistics (Antimagic does not give a visual increase to magical protection)

[granite plinth]

there are already gearscore brackets. 0 - 24, 25-124, 125+

[proven finch]

remove Warlock from the game Lmfao

They 100% ruin this game

[wraith urchin]

yeah im looking forward for another slot of characther

[remote whale]

just nerf tm mastery so it has a cooldown on when it heals

[proven finch]

Oooo ngl good suggestion, or just make it only recoverable health

[remote whale]

personally id just rework torture masteryto something else entirely

[soft nebula]

i took a week break cause i kept dying to rogues, come back to put on a 10kg kit and immediately die to a rogue in 2 hits im geekin

[proven finch]

Rogues and Clerics run solos atm

[clear bolt]

What about a torture mastery rework that instead only allows healing from one mob/player at a time.

This can be achieved through a self buff that activates after Curse of Paining a mob/player.

[proven finch]

I think the cooldown would still be much more balanced seeing as you'd still be constantly/infinitely gaining HP

[clear bolt]

The cooldown makes it really clunky though

[proven finch]

So is the rest of the game

[clear bolt]

but being able to recover only enough for recoverable health seems good too

[proven finch]

I think Recoverable health would be the best choice, not only do your spells leave you with it but you'd still have to be using Pots more often

It would just be like old Bard running around and healing

Or on the otherhand just make 100% Warlock lobbies they have to fight eachother all the time

[frail hazel]

great ideas but id say make the Key Ring 25% on fail and 50% on success so it means that you still have a 50% chance of losing if you fail with 2 rings stacked

[somber wind]

I considered that originally but you ARE giving up 2 core attributes in the ring slots being up to 7.

[jolly leaf]

Happy to see you like my suggestions Don't forget to upvote it if you like it

[proven finch]

Already did!

Anything to see these Warlocks become garbage

[jolly leaf]

Nah that's not the idea if they become garbage they'll get up again later and maybe they'll make them even worst. And imo my suggestion is pretty balanced

[proven finch]

Fair. I mostly just want to see a substantial hit, at least enough to where 90% of my matches aren't Locks

[grave stirrup]

sort by category for inventory/stash please

[obtuse raptor]

I would like the ability to select items in the market by the drop down arrows while on the front page to see the newest ones that are posted, rather than seeing ALL new items posted. Being able to select an item, stats, etc while viewing the most recently added would be awesome

For example, I'd like to be able to select "Grimsmile Ring" and then a stat, such as "Additional Physical Damage" and view them in order of newest posted, rather than sorted by cost

[manic rivet]

wizard really need a buff, need a million speell just to kill 1 people.

[tacit sleet]

Bruh.

[proven finch]

Just one tap with Ignite

[manic rivet]

not that really effective

[inland raft]

Can we have the pickaxe as default equipment at the Squire? That would be really helpful 🙂

[glass scarab]

if i dnt link steam with original game its ok? or theres difference

[tacit sleet]

literally.
20 gold.

[glass scarab]

bruh!! invis 2 taps with ignite inviz 2 taps with ignite inviz 2 taps w ignite

but ofc wiz shd hav more spels

[proven finch]

Whatchu mean? If you want 2 accounts don’t link otherwise yes everything transfers

[manic rivet]

are u playing with 25 gs lower?

[worn lava]

make arena mode a game where you can only come in with white gear and at the end if your team is victorious i don't know if gold or gear or maybe even craftable material make some kind of interesting worth reward you'll get cuz i think the devs should keep gear into the regular game we been playing cuz if you allow gear into the arena mode nobody will play the regular mode cuz its just easier to get gear off of people in the arena mode and you deal with more empty lobbies i know the devs talked about having arena mode the testing ground for giving them information on classes and what actually needs to be changed and nerfed and buffed but i dont think you need gear in that mode to get that information you can leave out the gear and use the regular mode to obtain how classes are with gear

[grave stirrup]

would make farming pointless then. I would farm neckbeard style for elite equipment to enter the arena with... it adds duality to both game modes

adds a niche of building suits and gearing yourself up for arena combat

[vernal hedge]

Arena is a pvp gamemode, why should you drastically limit it?
off course they need gear to also balance that, default vs geared are 2 completly different games, and that not even considering different tresholds of gear

arena is most likely going to be set up in brackets has that creates the most gameplay opportunities for it

[worn lava]

yall are missing the point if arena mode allows gear than you take away so much from the regular game less people will que for crypts ice cave or regular cave they will just que arena save some money buy a nice kit and que arena over and over and take peoples gear and make lots of money and just keep queuing arena cuz its more fun more pvp straight away less mobs or no mobs the regular mode becomes more dead that's why keep it whites only and the devs still can gather information on what classes need nerfs buffs changes and ik there are differences between gear and non gear so the devs can just use the regular mode as they have been all this time gathering information on how classes work with gear during pve and pvp so everything stays the same and in the arena mode should be a place for the devs to dive deep into the class itself the skills spells perks the fundamentals the core of the classes and what needs to be changed and that's how they envisioned arena mode and if your whole argument is i wanna use the gear i got and the kit i put together good cool regular mode just like you have been doing all this time you can go test it in arena mode pvp get a cool reward at the end

[vernal hedge]

I think you are missing the point.

you want to change something that we don't even know how it will work based on an assumption

what would make the most sense is that you don't lose your gear(or that that would be a seperate mode) and instead theres a gold or point reward.

if you make it white gear only nobody will play it(long term at least), theres no reason to you can just queue up sub 24 and some classes suffer from being at a clear disavantage

if you make it so that you lose your gear most people wont play because itll be a bad gameplay cycle, youll spend more time gearing up than playing the game, itll be like going back to before ht emarket with the ammount of gearing p that would be needed

what arena would be best for is providing you pvp matchs based on brackets which are divided by gear score so that you can have a pure 1v1, XvX fight, no mobs, no third parties, bs. give us some leaderboards and rewards like there already is for HR, and they have a solid game mode to work from

if it's an issue that arena is more fun than the core game I see that more has an issue for the devs to resolve and make it more interesting

[worn lava]

im asking for a change if that is what they had planned its best to let people know the different scenarios before they go ahead and for your change that your mentioning with not loosing gear that is another idea to fix the issues from allowing gear in although that idea still is super flawed

[worn lava]

or they could make it a point system like apex arena or counter strike cuz don't those games you have however much points at the start to pick something out for yourself and if you win you get more points to pick better stuff have a system like that for arena

[worn lava]

i just don't think they can ship arena with bringing your own gear in it'll never be balanced it'll never be a serious mode even with gear score limits like norm it wont work you need to have similar loadouts exact same power level random roles on gear wont work in arena everyone should be on a even playing field for arena people shouldn't meta kit and bring it into arena

[proper shadow]

@keen onyx much like how wizard has an ignite buff for weapons, how do you feel about giving Druid a poison weapon buff. (This buff could possibly scale with the Druids magic power)

It could also function exactly the same as rogue poison how ever I don’t believe the abilities should stack on top of each other how ever I wouldn’t be upset if they did. As long as some other perks for rogue got nerfed but I feel like that could be a slippery slope it might be better if you just made the scaling of a second poison effect on a weapon like half of what it would be if it was just the one buff so it other words it would be 1 full buff and half of the second buff

Another WILD suggestion is to simply add another craftable item, “enchanted oils” the alchemist could sell them and they could just be something like a potion u use to give you weapon some temporary elemental buff such as poison or frost, electricity, things that are already in the game and the only thing you’d need to do is give each weapon the like according effect on the weapon. Definitely not a small task but you don’t have to make a whole new animation wear you pore the oil on the weapon you could just use the “interaction loading wheel” you use when opening a door or chest. I’m sure that’s daunting but I think it’s a cool idea that could come with the sorcerer in a bit of a theme.

[dense wing]

Warlock hydra needs a nerf, like it can disarm traps, detect invisible players, it can be used to block players, deal damage and it can be used as a source of health via the usage of curses. Its just too good.

Same with phantomize, Get rid of the speed buff, currently its a better sprint that works as a get our of jail for free card for all non casters.

[remote whale]

could change phantomize so its a dash like for example a short range tp or something ( idk how big 1m is in game)

[soft acorn]

Cleric is a f*** joke in this game. He goes 1v3 and he doesn't get any damage, while he is 2-shotting everyone

[twilit granite]

it do be crazy, its kinda like beating a dead horse at this point though, they know its an issue and they're working on it

either they leave phantomize on warlok and they give every class some sort of escape mechanic or they nerf it severely by taking away the MS bonus. Im in favor of removing the MS buff and that way if someone is good they will just time it and swing as soon as your re appear. It also takes out the whole reason its insane to play against

[dense wing]

yeah thats what I was thinking... Also I have some personal agenda against the hydra taking out traps, due to me playing ranger and the traps just are not worth it anymore due to hydra destroying them.

[kind nimbus]

NERF WARLOCK

[jolly leaf]

I made this suggestions about the warlock, upvote it if you like the idea https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

[jolly leaf]

Well they nerfed it in the last 2 hotfix and will keep doing if he's still OP. We know he's strong, make suggestions to nerf / rework it efficiently. I've seen dozen of people cry about Cleric but no one propose something to change it

[wise yoke]

Cleric is just a worse PDR fighter with magic damage.

The real problem are movespeed boots like lightfoot. Nerf Lightfoot boots and cap movespeed modifiers to have +5 or % increases but not both. Now you won't see Cleric and Fighter running down people while wearing plate.

[vital knoll]

When it says "if your gs is more than 25, you will enter a more dangerous dungeon"....it's still the same dungeon right?

[jolly leaf]

Yes but you'll face player with better gear

The only thing that make dungeon in itself harder is High Roller

[boreal shore]

whats the difference between lucky blue and white luck stat

[jolly leaf]

There is no difference it's just that when the stat are blue there random, it can be an other stat. When it's white the item give luck by default (If I understand correctly your question)

[boreal shore]

ok well i see people spend 500 gold on a ring that gives like 17 white luck when they could get a 300 gold ring that gives 49 blue luck

[jolly leaf]

Because what's interessting in that ring is the other white stat

[jolly leaf]

And they're crafted item, so they give one extra blue stat compared to other epic ring

[boreal shore]

nice

[vivid coral]

nerf warlocks!!!

[jolly leaf]

I made this suggestions about the warlock, upvote it if you like the idea https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

[sturdy igloo]

Rogue epidemic happening all over again. Kill it before it kills the game. Please dont be ehstopid again.

[jolly leaf]

There is this good suggestion about a rogue rework. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons Upvote it if you like it, would be nice to replace the landmine build

[sturdy igloo]

Upvoted it, doubt it will do anything. Personally wont be playing anymore untill the rogue issue is fixed again. Not fun to play, scared to open a door or start pvp cause a rogue will kill you.

[jolly leaf]

Well rogue have always been an issues, that's why a rework is needed imo

[ashen canyon]

I don’t see the issue with rogue having the landmine play style, don’t get me wrong it isn’t fun to get landmined but it also isn’t fun to get cursed and kited by warlock, or trapped and shot down by ranger, or one shot by barb, but it’s what they do, it’s the class identity I’ve played and played against a landmine rogue most of the time I barely survive as a rogue if they don’t just kill me before I kill them. What exactly is the complaint about the rogue?

@jolly leaf @sturdy igloo I’m just genuinely curious

[jolly leaf]

Well I think kinda like you but people are and have been in the past complain a lot more about rogue landmine than other class identity. And I think Rogue could be defined by something else than really high dps out of invisibility. Imo the Rogue Debuff/Control who use poison would be really cool. And you could use Hide to get near and apply your poison to help your team instead of insta killing people (https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons)

[ashen canyon]

I can understand it as a sabotage rogue, and it does seem like a lot of fun as a possibility, but keep in mind, without the high damage, they’d need better access to pdr, how else do you plan on them getting close enough to apply said poison without being quickly dispatched in the process? Also, let’s say it’s not a melee application, then they just kite you until the poison kills you much like a warlock does with his curses. @jolly leaf

[sturdy igloo]

Everything else you mentioned has counterplay. Walking thru a door and dying from behind cause you dont have enough time to react has no counterplay. Its gonna kill the game again like it did last time.

[ashen canyon]

You can throw a torch though the doorway, swing and check for a rogue if you think there’s one around, if you don’t think there’s one around of course your going to get caught by surprise, if you hit the stealth rogue, they are no longer stealth there is counter play to a landmine rogue, and its name is caution

[sturdy igloo]

Nah. Im not gonna swing for 15 seconds on every door i open. Not to mention they can just move away from your swings. That option is not even viable to wizards, warlocks, sorcerers. You must be a new player. These are all the newbie arguments that occured first time around this epidemic started.

[solemn berry]

Expanding on alchemy/herbs to include things like small +1/+2 stat buffs would be cool

[ashen canyon]

I am relatively new to the game, only been playing since it came over to steam so for about a month now, you don’t have to swing every door opening, listen for footsteps, mob agro, candles on torches not lit dead mobs, chests open things that give away that someone has and could still be there, that’s all I’m saying. I’ve caught three rogues from stealth and boy does that feel fantastic, though I’m sure they’re sitting on the other side of their screen calling me everything but a good player.

@sturdy igloo

[lunar narwhal]

wizard and locks both have utility in their kit to pull rogues out of invis tho. just play around light orb and hydra

[sturdy igloo]

Light orb is practically useless now, since it has to basically hit the rogue for it to take effect. Not to mention it takes away an entire spell slot, which you need to kill to players. Aside from this, casting that stupid spell is like an alarm to everyone else, giving away your position. You have to cast 3 light orbs at every door you open, but you only have 5? So you have to sit after every door you open 😂 . Warlocks are different, but casting hydra and losing 10 or 20 hp, is risky aswell.

[sturdy igloo]

Every other room has dead mobs, so what then? Just dont go into the room? Im closed off on playing certain parts of the map cause there is a chance a rogue is in that room? LOL. Rogues have a perk that give off no footstep sound. I used to be like you, defending even the stupid parts of this game, cause the game is unique and cool. But stupid is stupid. Opening a door and risking your gold and 20 minutes of regearing to a non counterable play is just alt f4 and delete.

[ashen canyon]

Then how would you change the class to make it still playable and able to do anything with? Consider solo play, duos and trios as well, if landmine isn’t how your useful as a rogue what do you suggest?

[sturdy igloo]

Removing hide is probably the best solution. They would have to give rogue some other perks/skills to compensate. Could be a skill where he dashes in a direction to help him dodge and get close to players. Another one could be where he completely blocks the first hit of any attack. This block could be active for 6-10 seconds giving the rogue an opportunity to get close to his opponent.

The amount of ''Oh fuck'' that has occurred from a rogue appearing out of nowhere has set a record in a gaming setting worldwide, thanks to ironmace games.

[ashen canyon]

I do like those ideas, however it does little to keep them viable, the dash gives them a way to get in, only to be two or three shot by a fighter, barb, or cleric, and as for the block, it only works for one hit, without the surprise of invis I wouldn’t even consider them a rogue because anyone else could be just as stealthy as them. The dodge blocking one hit won’t make or break an engagement (I don’t believe) as most other classes have pdr or health to keep them from dying immediately, giving them a way to increase their damage would be a way to compensate for the hide/ambush tactic but how is the question.

@sturdy igloo

[sturdy igloo]

Rogue has weakpoint which is the counter to pdr. 40% armor reduction, thats insane lol. Right?

[ashen canyon]

Barbs don’t build high pdr (that I’ve seen) they stack the hell out of health, as for fighter and cleric, pdr is good on them I’ll agree, and the ability to bypass the pdr is good and needed, however the range difference between the weapon they hit you with and the weapon you hit them with is VERY noticeable and shields exist and do help.

[sturdy igloo]

K you are just arguing, just for arguings sake at this point. Rogue has access to more armor pen and true dmg. Rogue has access to the fastest mobility in the game, etc etc. Easily can kill pdr classes. Regardless, if they wanted to they can just run away from a barb,fighter, cleric. Theres no such option for other players walking through a door where a rogue with hide is waiting.

[ashen canyon]

As for crossbows and throwing knives, barbs have Francisca axes, fighters can wield a crossbow, clerics struggle at range I’ll agree but play the corners and doors make him come to you. True damage how? The same way a fighter or barb could get it? I’m not arguing to argue I’m putting points out there to get your point on it that is all.

I apologize if it come out like I’m just running you back and forth I’m really not trying to, I’m just bringing up counterpoints to your arguments, I’m just trying to have a discussion I mean no harm.

It’s quite likely I haven’t played against one like you have and counldnt just avoid him in some way or another, I’ve literally used invis potions as a fighter and landmined rogues it happens both ways.

[sturdy igloo]

Alright. But rapier definitely has the same range as their weapons, and has extremely higher attack rate. Rogues can also use handcrossbows if you didnt know that. Anyways, the point is not for every class to be able to do the same thing, but rather have a chance at surviving and fighting which rogues have with weakpoint against pdr. Other classes dont have that chance against a door camping hiding rat rogue.

[ashen canyon]

That I can agree with they attack a little fast, however the damage of a rapier isn’t as high as others, the stealth is the issue here, I don’t think it needs to be removed though, changed in some way maybe but I feel as though removing the hide ability is far to taxing for the rogue community @sturdy igloo

[jolly leaf]

How I see it, the Poison rogue would be in combo with the Hide. But probably remove ambush or rework it. For me, Hide would reduce the damage of the next few hits after you break the invisibility but greatly increase you'r Action speed so you can put several stack of poison really fast and step back before you get hit back. Maybe it could even work like Adrenaline rush, you get your buff of action speed after Hide then reduced move speed for a few sec. With poison who slow, reduce the action speed or blind (similar to the cyclops) it would be more easy to escape after your hide. I'm not sure if you should be able to applie them with the hand crossbow, maybe with reduced effect or they last less longer or maybe with a new perk who allow it. Imo Throwing knive should allow to applie poison

[ashen canyon]

No worries take your time

[jolly leaf]

I like the idea of a perfect block perk or skill

[jolly leaf]

Well imo a Rogue shouldn't be able to kill a fighter, barb or clerci (expect if they're build without hp or armor like Slayer fighter) The game is a Rock Paper Scissor. Fighter Barb and Cleric are the rogue's counter imo

[jolly leaf]

I agree with that and imo, taking Weapoint mean you don't have Cut Throat so you chose to coutner Fighter Cleric but are less efficient against Wizard and most importantly Warlock phantomize or Druid Shapeshift

[ashen canyon]

So in the case of rock paper scissors how does everything line up?

Fighter barb cleric are rock

Rogue ranger and bard are scissors

Wizard, warlock and Druid are paper?

[sturdy igloo]

As it is right now, you could still kill a wizard, ranger, warlock, druid even without ambush. Headshots with stiletto dagger do 60-80dmg. With stiletto dagger basically aiming for the top of your head on every attack, you could easily hit 3 times before they can react. The entire issue is hide, combined with the atk speed of rogues, combined with his weapons giving him headshots too easily. Removing hide would the best, and adding some perfect block or dash to compensate for that fast distance closing that rogue wants.

[jolly leaf]

Nah it's more complex than that as certain build of certain class make them become rock or paper, but you get the idea. A class can't and shouldn't be able to kill every other class easily

[jolly leaf]

Well that would be an other way to rework rogue. I really like the idea of a Poison Rogue with Hide but seriously nerfed (No buff damage, maybe less step or remove the speed buff they added, or more drastically remove creep). You select the poison you want, it take 2-3 sec to apply the poison on the blade, you hide, Hide give you a malus of damage but a buff of attack speed so you can't one shot your target but apply several stack of poison, With poison who slow, reduce the action speed or blind (similar to the cyclops) it would be more easy to escape after your hide. Maybe hide could even work like Adrenaline rush. You get your buff of action speed after Hide then reduced move speed for a few sec. I'm not sure if you should be able to apply them with the hand crossbow, maybe with reduced effect or they last less longer or maybe with a new perk who allow it. Imo Throwing knive should allow to apply poison

There is a lot of thing possible with the Rogue. I feel like totally removing the Hide wouldn't be a good idea it's part of the core of this class, his identity. But you can rework it so the point of Hide isn't to landmine and 3 tap anyone

[sturdy igloo]

Thats the thing, rogue naturally does enough damage, without ambush or poison to put a class to extremely low hp or even death. Too many of the weapons aim for the head, resulting in easy 60-60-60 hits. Without headshot, lets say 40-40-40, or even 30-30-30 thats enough to make a ranger, wizard,warlock, druid one hit away from dying. Rogues usually get in 2 or 3 attacks before the opponent can respond with a attack of their own. And all of this comes back to hide giving them that opportunity to hit their opponent 2-3 times before they can respond back with an attack.

[jolly leaf]

Yes, that's why I talked of "poison" but that apply debuff not damage and reduced damage if you use Hide to apply them.

I agree with you that Rogue, with gear, can deal a lot of damage way too fast, but imo removing Hide is not the good solution.

[sturdy igloo]

So you mean using hide would reduce the damage rogue does on the first couple of hits? That is definitely better and keeps hide in the game for viability.

[jolly leaf]

Yep that's what I suggest

[jolly leaf]

Also we need to keep in mind that gear is part of the issue. It's because you can get so many damage stat through your gear that Rogue are so powerful. Maybe that's what should be changed. Actually they're probably going to change Gear a lot as they talked of adding Gem and socket to equipement and also set gear that give bonus. The idea of removing random attribute (the blue stat on item) was also mentioned in the last Q&A and in the past too

[sturdy igloo]

Yeah they have tried changing gear. They removed random modifiers, made the loot less interesting. They reverted it. They then just removed all damage attributes and that made the loot boring, so they reverted it. Nerfing rogues base stats made him too weak, so they reverted it. Nerfing dagger damage made him too weak so they reverted it, they nerfed hide so it shows a slight glimmer, they reverted it. It all comes back to hide and landmine being absurd and stupid.

[granite plinth]

please give all attributes back to golden cloak, there is zero reason to ever use the golden cloak, +2 all is not OP and its just satisfying seeing that +2 on the cloak.

[jolly leaf]

Here's some really cool Suggestions about,
Rogue rework (To replace landmine) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

Warlock rework (to change the healing mechanics) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

And adding more point of interest to the map (To improve PvP and PvE): https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

Upvote if you like any of them

[nova wedge]

please fix bear transform, very frustrating to not be able to shift

[obtuse osprey]

Maybe have wizard have a passive spell regen ability? This would help it keep up with the other spellcasters

[edgy sand]

Even if they lower zap damage and make it infinite… something for pve

[obtuse osprey]

I honestly just thing passive regen is the way to go

[remote whale]

Maybe skill that gives spell slots from a staff bonk

[edgy sand]

On the official dark and darker wiki it mentions max spell count as a gear stat

That being implemented would both fix wizard and break cleric/druid

[reef quartz]

It’s super annoying. Especially on any kind of slanted floor. So stupid

[restive pelican]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/567917/hr-scaling-idea

my idea for reworking HR, please criticize it

[quasi epoch]

The game is broken now

[late niche]

UI Adjustment

Can we please move the "Dungeon Selection has changed" Notifcation so it doesnt overlap the Market/My Listings and prevent you from clicking them? Its pretty annoying

[jovial swan]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/567950/twohander-needs-a-rework

[ripe turtle]

What do you guys think if some class perks like Crush, Weapon Mastery or Traps and Locks were permanent passive perks if you reach certain level (5th perk if you will)?

[crystal veldt]

broken how?

[rose vine]

Add an accept all quests button, nothing worse than logging into a new class and having to go through 20+ quests and click accept on them all

[ripe turtle]

There is one. Just click the quest log on your right corner of the lobby.

[rose vine]

oh sheeet

[hollow imp]

can i suggest a text channel for every class discussion where player can post just screenshots of builds for that specific class with the respectively synergies?

[ripe turtle]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/567961/titan-throw-and-field-ration-change
Here's a suggestion for new Barbarian skill along with Field Ration skill change that could work similarly with this Barbarian skill suggestion. Leave a vote if this is interesting to try!

[tidal blade]

buff the druid form at the very fucken least, bear sucks, pather and bear have no damage at all and rat and chicken are fine

[meager jasper]

You know what I think we need as well, for druid? Perks that are more specialized and involve trade offs. Like the problem with buffing druid is always going to be making it too versatile, but if you make something that makes you a really good caster while not letting you instantly shapeshift or something, that's more interesting than all druids being instant shifters etc.

Or making whatever that shapeshift buff is really strong, but having it give you a negative spell cap like wizard has.

[tidal blade]

it should have build paths

[meager jasper]

I want to be able to make parts of this class better rather than all of it at once.

[tidal blade]

like someone who goes str to go bear and agl for panther stuff but theres no variety cuz there's only one real build path tanky as fuck with a spear

[meager jasper]

Just adding here as well, that caster druid is basically non-existent now. At first I thought it was fine because I'm more or less a bear druid, but I can see that this has serious knock-on effects for one of the builds. I don't approve of the change in the patch and I think building around specialization this way would help slightly nerf druid's flexibility rather than punish druid for having things that are good.

Another idea would be to make the mostly useless minor damage buff for spirit magic give them more charges or cost less spell memory. That's way more build-defining than a magic power buff can ever be.

And something similar for treant/thorns' school. Maybe something that restores them to the power they were at, but again, a perk to do so. I'd like to see these things scale, even, and would be curious about a perk that gave them some scaling hp.

[karmic jasper]

Rangers should get a perk called Hot shot, you gain stacks for every arrow that hits an enemy.

Up to 5 stacks. You gain 2% action speed and phys power per stack. A missed shot loses 2 stacks.

[muted crag]

Combine swift and defense mastery?

[thorn light]

Remove druid from the game at this point

[faint onyx]

Make the quest modules on both versions of crypts.

[whole rampart]

a setting to get rid of blood? I feel like it causes lag/frame drops for people with not too good pcs

[wheat veldt]

ooh that sounds nicee

[round zephyr]

use an emissive texture for the torch light, its basic shit and has been in unreal engine for 6+ years, don't use a cycling RGB color , thats some pre-school amateur stuff. thx.

[quasi epoch]

warlock is fuking op it doesent matter what i play its broken

90% mi deths are from warlock every time i meet him he kils mee

[unique seal]

I know not if they have confirmed it but it would be really cool if at some point in the future they re-added the 'end of season quests' from prior seasons for a mini event, Im not sure if they'll ever do that but I am kickin myself for missing out last seasons ones like the Frost Skele etc
Perhaps end of year cele or anniversary perhaps Im not sure

[tired osprey]

I like cool movement options, you cool movement options.

Here are some movement skills and perks, 1 for each class that hasn't gotten one yet (Rogue, Ranger and Druid already have alternative movement abilities.) to give each one some spice.

Fighter: Combat Roll (Skill), rolls in the inputted direction and invincibility frames in the middle of the animation but not the beginning and ending frames, 8 second cooldown.
Distance and speed of roll effected by movement penalties from armour etc.

Barbarian: Sprang (Norwegian for leap, could also just call it Leap.) (Skill)

Leap forward high enough to be able to clear a crouching players height and travel 4-5 meters.

Cooldown: 20 seconds.

You may crouch or attack during this.

Movespeed and distance effected by movement penalties from armour etc.

Cleric: Graceful (perk) When you aren't wielding weapons you may walker over traps without triggering them and walk over water.

When you unsheathe your weapons, spellbook or throwable weapon this effect turns off and has a 5 second cooldown.

Wizard: Blink (Skill): 3 charges, teleport a short distance your are aiming at, you move through players, mobs and traps unhindered.

12 second cooldown.

Bard: Knee Slide (Skill): Slide forward on your knees at crouched height and move about 3 meters in the direction your facing.)

8 second cooldown.

This is formatted terribly, and most of these ideas are unwanted but hey they might have something of worth in them.

[crude hill]

If there were not Friends name tag in game, the best way to find your friend in the Dungeon would be using the proximity chat. Until you learn the rooms. I dont want people to hide behind their discord channels.

[cinder fulcrum]

They nerfed everybody, and then tickled the warlock with a nerf, when everyone and there mom is running double warlock and stomping lobbies, do y'all think this is enough for warlock, I definitely don't

[midnight whale]

Revert the thorn wall changes, its literally useless if you can jump it... may as well be a picket fence at this point.

[midnight whale]

Give druid campfire mastery instead of ranger, no one runs it on ranger and now druid needs it to be viable.

[inland raft]

Can you not reduce the treants already unfunctional state? First make it be able to fight bosses and also count the kills as ours and not the treant's

[median mural]

If keeping the armor movespeed reduction for fighter, reduce sprint by 1 stack. They are wayy too fast

[worldly lion]

Can we get the GCX glow illumination to match the color rotation? it shows if you're hugging the wall but its white other than that

[remote whale]

flamethrower spell

[steep willow]

nerf longsword, all figthers are playing this op weapon, and nerf warlock, 3 less damage on one curse?? joke

[steady tulip]

+1 ,Longsword one hitted me before cleric nerfs on full PDR plate build

[latent wigeon]

It would be nice to have stilleto dagger as base gear on rouge

[soft acorn]

Nerf warlocks -> buff clerics = make the game dead again. Buff Fighters and make the game fps game so everyone is shotting where warlock have very short range for curses ... GG ironmace

[atomic whale]

Nice, death cam* in game, but why not Exit to lobby from "death cam" ?

[reef quartz]

Anyone know what the frost stone craftables give?

[soft acorn]

Nice buff on fighters Ironmace well done! buff their speed and buff their dmg from other class weapons. So now warlock is slower than 100% classes in game 🙂 Even during phantomize without gear all classes are faster than warlock ... While it takes some time to cast phantomize

While warlock is medium-short distance class you made him to be the slowest class in the game. His curses have short-medium distance -> where their spell costs HP to cast .
Bard with rapier is running crazy
Fighter with sprint is running crazy
Barbarian is just crazy
Cleric is just a counter to Warlock
And what warlock can do ? just PvE and you nerf his heal every patch

[remote whale]

combat log would be real nice to learn from

[silk escarp]

i suggest adding a wave feature that flashes your ingame character name (maybe even fame) and karma standing (name color) to non-allied players in the direction your facing or to anyone looking at you when you wave up to a specific distance or within los/render (as seen in Rust)

[devout gust]

Phantomize should last longer. BUT only have a single charge. Can be recouped at a campfire

[uneven rain]

Please make druid playable again. I now have to do the last quests added with an absolutely useless class

[silk escarp]

when characters are in an inventory ui (ie, opening chest, in inventory, in quest log etc.) have the character model open a backpack or sack for as long as they are in the inventory to signify they are interacting and "vulnerable to ambush" this would also serve as a loot goblin deterent to anyone looting during combat since they are blatantly vulnerable to any observers

[midnight whale]

^

[versed trellis]

are you on drugs magical healing got gutted and COP is way worse burst now. Still gonna be a good build but jesus man

[ashen pike]

this is actually a really cool idea

[midnight whale]

Druid is honestly too strong now, we need to nerf flower picking.

26 gold is just way too op. You have wall hacks but for flowers... please nerf before this gets out of control.

[uneven thunder]

Im fighter player. I think weapon mastery needs a revert. Its bad for ranger players in grouped play and buffing dagger fighters in solo is lame. Please reply with trudge if you agree.

[midnight whale]

Based, fighter should not be a better ranger and rogue all in one 😂

[tired osprey]

One day I hope they rework troll to have a more fun moveset that is more interesting like cyclops and not a bunch of samey instant kill swings and slams.

[past parcel]

Buff stealth bois

[ember shadow]

hell no getting land mine'd sucks enough as it is dont need more people running that crap

[obtuse raptor]

I would like the ability to hold "Shift" to compare items to what I am currently wearing

[ashen canyon]

I second this suggestion

[chrome gale]

Make barbarians achillies strike only apply to leg attacks like the rangers perk

[velvet walrus]

Please add toggle crouch and toggle walk buttons.

[abstract stirrup]

Good idea, i will raise it with IronMace 😄

[velvet walrus]

Thank you so much.

[past parcel]

Hold Ctrl only no toggle

[wind pond]

any idea if quest progression/squire will be shared account wide soon? Want to expirement with multiple classes but hate the grind to get squire gear on them

[solar bay]

the real solution to warlock is to make his damage spells have a much higher cost, even if you dont have tm, that doesnt mean all spells, like hydra shouldnt be 60hp, and reducing cop initial damage is a right move, but it might need to be capped honestly, the whole deal with warlock is he isnt supposed to have "burst" damage, but he can achieve that.

[jolly leaf]

Well it's something they want to achieve but it seem to be way more complex to implement and it have a lot of negative side effect. They're thinking of an alternative solution. The idea of sharing only the merchant affinity or at least the squire seems to have caught their interest and they said shouldn't be that hard to do so maybe soon

[jolly leaf]

Here's some really cool Suggestions about,
Rogue rework (To replace landmine) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

Warlock rework (to change the healing mechanics) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

And adding more point of interest to the map (To improve PvP and PvE): https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

Upvote if you like any of them

[faint onyx]

How are any of the devs looking at the state of wizard right now and thinking this is ok?

[obtuse osprey]

Find some about a wizard rewoek

[worldly socket]

An added druid damage spell would be nice to give some options for damage other than physical. Dreamfires just an aid to healing your team. This along with if our heals/hopefully 2 "dps" spells were benefiting from stats would bring out options for the druid gameplay.

[small ibex]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PUT BACK PACKS IN THIS GAME

[soft acorn]

Warlock is getting oneshotted by every class? He is the slowest class in the game ? No problem ! lets nerf him and buff other classes like Fighter ! GJ Ironmace

[final crow]

I've died to Warlocks more often than any other class as a Druid, and yet the Druid also got nerfed. Not really sure what Druid is supposed to be able to do anymore

[soft acorn]

Well if you look at stats Warlock is the most often played class in high roller. But it doesn't mean he is any strong aganist players. He is just the most often played class

[final crow]

Warlock can stack movespeed and will and just melt people with curses is the reason it got nerfed tho

[hard fjord]

I got destroyed as a fighter today just due to spell spam and my slow ass lol

[soft acorn]

I wish there was an ability to see detailed stats in the main menu when you press any key like Shift key. As with every patch there are changes in scaling so its hard to follow them if someone is off for months or so.

So I would love to see detailed stats after holding any key in game/menu just to see what does Will/Strength/Agility/Dex/Vigor/Knowledge and I would love to see live what does it change to my spells and skills.

Lets take Torture Mastery( Warlock's Perk) as en example It restores 2(0.05) Health to the caster with each instance of damage dealt.

And what does mean It restores 2(0.05) Health ?
It takes Will/Knowledge or only Magical Healing toward scaling ... And why only magical healing and not Will or Knowledge.
It's so unclear as you need to follow updates to be up to date to know what is going on with the stats.

And it follows up to all classes/perks and skills.

[final crow]

Think the 0.05 is magic power scaling, so it would be 2(0.05)+magic healing add=total

But also, the power scaling is weird and curve so really you have no clue what it is lol

[soft acorn]

Well you have True Magical Damage/ Magical power / Will which adds magical power too and Magical Healing

[final crow]

I'm just upset with how bad Druid feels to me right now, I have no tank so getting close hurts, if I use a spear to keep distance I am slow as can be so I can't run, you need a lot of knowledge to run a full set of good spells. I have no range so rangers and warlocks murder me

[jolly leaf]

Well we're here to make it and talk about it. But right now I don't think it's usefull to think about Wizard. The Sorcerer is coming and I think that will change a lot of thing for wizard too. Imo Wizard don't need a lot of change anyway and the change buff can be made via indirect change, like make the Crystal sword recharge a bit of your spell when you use it, or this Wand item they talked about in the last Q&A (It would be an item, maybe like a consumable, that have a random spell (probably some small offensive spell) it have like a few charge a they recharge with time so you can yse that to PvE

[jolly leaf]

It's planned, they have issues with the rework (on their side) of the inventory system, but we should get Backpack and Quiver

[south topaz]

How is that druid can only get 2 Treants to use while Warlock can endlessly spam hydra as long as they have a decent supply of heal?
There is so many encounters with warlock that ended up with a hydra blocking the way and endlessly prolong the fight.
Partially agrees with the Treants nerf as it no longer make fight unnesscery long but something should also be done to hydra

[jolly leaf]

Well I agree it could be in gale but the wiki can help about all that, like here for scaling https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Scaling

[jolly leaf]

Warlock is and always have been completely broken as his core mechanics (the self heal) is too strong. They need to rework that before doing any more buff or nerf imo. My suggestion about what to do is https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic (Upvote if you like it )

[steady tulip]

How cleric can be counter if they dont even have range to even Hit curse locking warlock, please add some possibility to slow enemes on close medium range on cler (range weapon) or even to Hit rat

[ripe turtle]

Hmm...what happened to the magic protection potion drops from dungeons?

[bright fable]

when season can end ?

[opaque umbra]

Can we please remove movespeed as a stat from the game? It would fix about a thousand problems, thanks.

[clear whale]

I feel like the main reason halberd is not really used on fighter isn't because the base damage is bad, but because it's hard to hit people with the sweetspot without them walking in your face. There could be a perk called like "poleman" that reduces or even removes the move speed penalty for walking backwards during a swing with a polearm, meaning you'd be moving near or at a strafing's swing speed. The perk could also or instead reduce the slow that happens during the actual attack phase of a swing since it lasts much longer if you hit an enemy.
I feel like there's a lot of ways to buff halberd usage without just increasing damage

[jolly leaf]

Should be in 1 month and 2-3 week

[tired osprey]

Or we could give fighter a shove? Maybe better fit on barbarian but maybe they could rework his shield bash to work on two handers which would allow him to shove back people and make space.

[clear whale]

I just made a suggestion on the website kind of explaining how it could be implemented. I might just be in love with my own ideas, but I think it could genuinely be a good addition
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568239/halberd-and-polearm-buffs-in-general-for-fighter

[tired osprey]

I am still waiting for them to give every class who hasn't gotten a alternative movement perk or skill to get one, I hope barb gets a leap.

[next furnace]

Was anything like this discussed before?
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568255/highlight-or-sort-quests-in-journal-based-on-current-dungeon

[runic heron]

bring back ruins

[hard fjord]

They are

[remote whale]

druid spell: toxic spores, shoot a small toxic cloud that deals 1dmg and gives players caught in it a coughing debuff

[dense spoke]

An idea of mine as a long time forever DM for Old school D&D

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568317/exterior-dungeons-crawl-experiences

[shell drift]

Bring back ruins and bring back the closing zone. Without the zone forcing pvp the game is so boring now. I dont know why they thought it was a good idea to remove the end of round pvp but it was a horrible idea

[daring trail]

The only guy who feels that way ^

[remote whale]

circle would be nice

[hot hemlock]

Circle was a terrible mechanic. Forcing unwinnable fights upon teams because they got a bad spawn will never be a good way to increase pvp lmao

[dense spoke]

The circle was meh at best. We have enough games out here with closing circles forcing pvp

[noble tide]

Circle was RNG. If you spawned outside of ring automatically you're in a bad spot and will most likely rush into an enemy team when getting away from zone.

[grizzled rune]

Not all torches should start as on within the dungeon. At the start of matches much like the traps moving slightly on the floor, torches should be randomly selected at the start 15-25% of them should start as off.

If you like this type of idea, please upvote on my suggestion, thanks!
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568338/pickpocket-is-too-obvious-some-of-the-dungeon-torches-should-be-randomly-extingu

[forest hearth]

I feel like this got implemented this wipe, I know for sure based on experimenting some torches do start turned off, but it seems the torches that do are static, it's not random which ones start off (take with a big grain of salt)

[shell drift]

Fact of the matter is the circle helped players get more pvp. Now you have people spawning by a extraction, farming the area and leaving as soon as they can and a lot of times never even seeing another player. The rush of having to fight to get out is what made the game fun

[marble sentinel]

bear form should scale of vigor sense monkey form is coming and that should scale off strength

also darkgrove robes should be avalible for squire as just common gear

[south topaz]

Or having more than 15 people per match.

[past geyser]

Warlocks with their sustainability need a nerf to movement speed and would like to see phantomize shortened or just make it so that their curses only heal the recoverable health (i forgot its actual name but the shaded bar that can be recovered by sitting)

[narrow apex]

The rush is still there with or without circle, because when you're at the end of the map timer and you've overstayed your welcome you're still fighting for exits that you dont know are taken or not. Circle doesn't encourage pvp any more than the new map collapse system, because if you want pvp you go to the center of the map where the most action happens.

[shell drift]

No its not. you can hide and gather loot a lot of the time with never even seeing people because you no longer need to fight to extract

[jolly leaf]

Here's some really cool Suggestions about,
Rogue rework (To replace landmine) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

Warlock rework (to change the healing mechanics) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

And adding more point of interest to the map (To improve PvP and PvE): https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

Upvote if you like any of them

[dense spoke]

Yep. I've had plenty of runs where the other team quite literally spawned in the next room. We need less battle Royale brainrot mechanics in this game. If I want to play a forced pvp experience, I'd re-download war zone and listen to my pc sound like a turbine engine

[rocky pivot]

100%

[narrow apex]

The circle meant nothing because I drank one of my 20 gray pots and pressed G next to a red static in the corner of the map.

Its tick damage is almost completely negated by pots, so idk why people claim the circle was some immovable object.

A good use for the circle would be to re-add it as a hard time limit to the upcoming arena gamemode

[dense spoke]

Yeah that I could get behind for sure. Also good to know there's an arena mode coming!

[eternal fable]

Ironmace, lets consider removing landmine rogue for good. Having people invisible that instakill half the cast with 0 counterplay when theyre in range is easily the dumbest part of this game. Id rather warlock's magic healing get tripled.

I IMPLORE YOU. Fix this blatant disregard for balance design that is landmine rogue. There are 2 senses we use as gamers to detect enemies - Vision, and sound. Rogue not only has tools to prevent both of these from being useful, but not seeing them in time (or hearing them, becasue again no sound and true invis) is guaranteed death. Keeping it in this broken state is a disservice to the rest of your game. FIX THIS NEXT PATCH PLEASE

[fair kite]

Love the content idea

[jolly leaf]

Yep me too, it would be really great for both PvP and PvE. Don't forget to upvote it if you like the idea

[grizzled rune]

Help to get a little more darkness in the dungeons.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568338/pickpocket-is-too-obvious-some-of-the-dungeon-torches-should-be-randomly-extingu
Please upvote if you like the idea.

[granite plinth]

Add cross quest progression

[sterile totem]

Imagine a "Sort" option in inventory.. So delightful

[halcyon sapphire]

Hey ran into an ad for this dark and darker mobile game. It looks sus. Just wanted to make IM aware, and I dunno is it real?

https://dndm.krafton.com/en

[dense quail]

When will there be a minimum gear score to allow playing high roll? It's a real bore to enter the game very equipped, expecting a fun pvp with a great reward, and find naked people, rats, pre-teammers... Please, a minimum of GS to play High Roll.

[covert flume]

Why is the druid suddently horrid?

[soft acorn]

Why does fighter have such an additional move speed boost + he can use bows and all other stuff. And why clerics are unkillable

[past parcel]

Make rouge have more armour pen

[jolly leaf]

They're working on a new matchmaking system that should be released within the next week. They said it'll help with the pre teaming issues, the gear and skill gap. Hopefully it'll finally add GS in HR

Here's some really cool Suggestions about,
Rogue rework (To replace landmine) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons

Warlock rework (to change the healing mechanics) : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic

And adding more point of interest to the map (To improve PvP and PvE): https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

Upvote if you like any of them

[dense quail]

Ty!!

[abstract stirrup]

It is real and it is a deal IronMace made with krafton to make a mobile version of their game 🙂

[manic lantern]

I just want to put this -

Ironmace should do weekend playtests like the old days at the end of wipe on the Test Servers. Incentivize us with 5? Red Shards for playing for an hour in the dungeon or some cosmetic skin achievable in 5-6 games. Do things like multiclassing, double move speed, naked only, solo self found, etc

[halcyon sapphire]

oh cool thanks!

[stray kindle]

druid bad

[plucky cove]

The Goblin Dance emote should be on a loop unless canceled by F.

[jolly leaf]

Have a look at this suggestions, I think it would be very interesting to rework the landmine rogue into something better https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons . Imo they should not remove Hide but change it's purpose, look at my 2nd comment in the suggestions
( And don't forget to upvote it if you like the idea)

[random junco]

it will demands people that in this time can work on something more important like new class

[tidal otter]

if any mod sees this hOOKIEDONGER is going through all the trios vc and mic spamming

[jolly leaf]

#in-game-reports , if you have a clip it's even better

[brazen token]

This is your weekly reminder that longsword ripostes are still bullshit, and that you haven't fixed anything about it.

A player shouldn't have to be afraid of swinging their melee weapon at all because if the totally fair longsword gets even a single riposte off, even after the hit actually lands and damages them, the attacker eats more damage than any single combination of weapon and skills in the game can deal on a hit.

And this can be done irrespective of the impact system because the totally fair and balanced longsword can riposte even if it's overwhelmed by a high impact weapon.

"But blocking with a longsword is a measure of ski-" No, because weapons have specific animations, and learning them isn't hard. And no weapon should be dealing 1.8x damage before other multipliers. And again, it can be "riposted" AFTER it hits them and deals damage.

[sharp patio]

ice wyven targeting feels weird nice boss but i be in fights and its staring at my pal then jumps at me

[sharp cape]

balance ranger
nerf the fuck out of the hunting trap and buff the actual character

[civic seal]

wow skill issue? just drag

[brazen token]

Wow, yeah, just do that thing that they can react to as well. That's totally helpful and definitely fixes a busted as hell mechanic. Please offer more of your great wisdom. Elsewhere preferably.

[civic seal]

dude if they are reacting to it then they are just better. Have you used the longsword? thats shits hard

[brazen token]

Yeah, totally hard to parry predictable weapon paths and be able to do so after the attack hits you anyway.

[civic seal]

youre being predictable then, crouch or jump or something

[brazen token]

1.8x weapon damage, it doesn't matter where they hit you, you're still eating far more damage than any other weapon hitting you in the same place. Which is just another unbalanced aspect of it

[civic seal]

okay pal

[brazen token]

Facts speak for themselves

[civic seal]

sure do pal

[left patrol]

Tbh they should just nerf sprint its op

[civic flume]

learning things and applying them well is the definition of skill, no?

[brazen token]

Justifying absurdly strong counterattack that ignores mechanics other blocks are affected by, by saying it takes "skill" when, again, it's not difficult and can be done to attacks that have already succeeded in hitting you.

No, that's not skill. Its an unbalanced mechanic that is far too strong.

I'm not even saying remove the ability to parry from the longsword, just significantly reduce the damage to something less than the current multiplier it has (wiki says it's 1.875x) and prevent ripostes on attacks from weapons that have a higher impact than the longsword's listed resistance instead of giving them EVEN MORE time to press the button. It's currently too strong and counterintuitive as heck.

[silk willow]

more silver craft weapons

[sudden gate]

Give us the choice of using poor and common weapons in the Squire inventory.

[spring urchin]

PLEASE NERF WIZARDS THEY ARE TOO STRONG IT'S UNBALANCED

[frozen scroll]

and nerf druid again

[jolly leaf]

I don't feel like Druid is played a lot anymore. What's make him still deserving of a nerf?

[languid pebble]

Give Wizard spell that when cast on a target provides some kind of clarity, the more it is cast the faster spells regen. sitting in dungeon is dumb. Can be cast on allies, enemies, mobs.

[bright fable]

pls check why riot games and dark and darker colide

[bronze widget]

rogues kill 5 people with 2 stabs and you guys nerf druids.. come on

[cinder fulcrum]

How often do you actually get hit with the long sword riposte, the hitbox is TINY, and while blocking you're slowed, you can simply be out of range before they get to hit back, you just got killed by a long sword one too many times and want it changed

Learn how to fight it, it is genuinely a skill issue

[coral heron]

phantomize is ruining the game. same stuff all day, chase a ghost, worst game play ever, pure troll, stupid as hell, have to kill with anti cancer torch/// fix PLEASE! @keen onyx @full tulip @dawn grotto

[frank herald]

well yes, just imagine if it wasnt like that. it would be the easiest boss to do with multple people. make sure you are ready for the leap, its coming anytime

[frank herald]

feel like it is really strong i agree, the spell it self makes sense for a caster to escape, but i feel like it lasts too long "just for an escape" should be like 2, 3 seconds max

[frank herald]

they did? or what

[frank herald]

you need to quest your way to common, it comes when you do quests for desired item type, example. want common swords? do quests for weaponsmith

[bright fable]

when i play tft dAd have problems with Riot Vanguard

[sudden gate]

Oh I meant by being able to choose between both quality.

Because sometimes I wanna craft silver common weapons but after fnishing the weapon npc quest.

I cant choose poor weapon at all.

[frank herald]

ah you mean like that, yea sure makes sense

[frank herald]

its most likely due to vanguard being a kernel level anti-cheat, which probably interferes with D&D's anti-cheat

[bright fable]

can you guys somehow fix it ?
i need to gamble
im addicted...

[frank herald]

just quit vanguard when you play D&D. At the bottom right of task bar ''show hidden icons''

[frank herald]

also reduced healing by 50%

[gloomy inlet]

all of the gathering halls in game have been taken over by chat spamming bots SDF PLZ HELP

[sage oyster]

Game discussion and Q and A while not perfect served as good places to ask and get good answers for questions about the game and have a decent conversation. With the rearrangement (and removal) of them respectively there's a gap in where players can seriously ask a question and recieve good answers outside of class channels.

Making a "help" category and moving those there or a new q and a channel might be worthwhile. Even if q and a was originally meant as q and a of you, the devs.

[inland raft]

I second that I don't understand why we don't have the help section anymore :/

[brazen token]

I love how in all of these "you just suck" replies, none of them actually bother responding to the actual issues I'm bringing up. You know, the ass backwards "impact magically doesn't matter and makes riposting easier" and "this does more damage than any sane weapon swing in the game" stuff? But yeah, longsword clearly sucks and that's why it shows up just about every game multiple times. Definitely.

[hidden hemlock]

Make bards lute song that makes mobs fight eachother work like Hr lich where they get faster and stronger, and make them exclusively aggro opponents

[rain rune]

make druid rat form immune to poison

[soft acorn]

make warlock's magical healing stronger

[hidden hemlock]

Also make the bards lute song work on the mobs In the lich fight

[sage oyster]

As a longsword player, is less viable than sword and board or slayer as a main weapon/loadout. The reasons why longsword is so popular is because it performs better the worse/less methodical an enemy is, and it has the highest gameplay satisfaction of any other weapon for fighters.

Longsword is incredible slow MS, has long swing times, and can be dealt with in multiple manners. Range, gett8ng inside to only be hit by sourspots. If they're fishing fo4 a riposte, just hit the feet, etc. There's actually a significant amount of counterplay.

[brazen token]

Again, none of the points I brought up mentioned at all. My issue is with the mechanics and damage multiplier involved, not with whatever hypothetical skill differences are at play between random people.

It just casually ignores the impact system, in fact becoming better with higher impact, and has a stupidly high damage multiplier for no reason other than "longsword r kool"

[sage oyster]

I only read your last message, you didn't seem to have any points or questions. You had made vague passive aggressive points about LS being the worst thing in the game. If you have specific questions I'd be happy to shed shed some light on it as a LS fighter main for over 1.6k hours.

[brazen token]

I don't have any questions. My point is clearly stated in earlier posts as "this ignores mechanics it shouldn't, is in fact made easier by stuff that is meant to make blocking more dangerous, and deals more damage than anything has any sane right to deal in a single swing."

[jolly leaf]

Yeah longsword make no sense. It have unique mechanism that make no sense and should be reworked. I always wonder why if you hit the longsword with a double axe or a war maul you don't break the Defensive stance and stagger the opponent (I know how it work but when are they changing that)

[brazen token]

That's exactly my point, right there. Heavy weapons stagger people with shields, but the longsword, and I presume the lantern shield (not that I ever see anyone using it), instead gain a bigger window with which to press their riposte button. The wiki might be outdated, idk for sure, but it lists the longsword riposte damage multiplier as 1.875x. That's insane.

[uneven rain]

Druid is absolute ass now and warlocks continue to dominate the meta. FML bring druid back!

[brazen token]

Like, imagine if, say, Victory Strike had a +80% physical power bonus to that one attack. That's the equivalent of that longsword riposte swing.

[soft acorn]

Correct me if I am wrong. But if the formula for Torture mastery is 2(0.05) health -> So I am getting 1 extra heal per tick per 10 Magical Healing bonus ?

And why I am having 16 magical healing in items , and with Vampirism perk ( 20% magical healing bonus) I am still having 16 ? Is not bugged ?

[jolly leaf]

The wiki is up to date about that. The more the weapon you block have Impact power, the longer you have to riposte and the damage are 1.8x

[jolly leaf]

20 magical healing bonus to get +1. +10 would mean (0.1) scaling. Vampirism is not really +20% magical healing, it's +20% healing. Like a +20% at the end of the formula.

[sage oyster]

Then allow me to address those two points both thematically and mechanically.

As for impact power, parries do not necessary ignore it, but deflect it, which is both thematically correct (you are not blocking a strike, but essentially feinting it away in IRL terms).

Mechanically it is not necessarily ignored, as riposte actually take a considerable amount of swing time to go off (without tons of AS, hence why shield mastery is core for longsword users). It is implied within that swing that there is stagger done to the LS user due to the swing MS penalty as well as the long animation that you are locked into.

Now why does higher impact mean a larger window for a riposte? Thematically, higher impact weapons (larger/heavier) will cause more kinetic energy to be shifting. What a riposte is doing IRL is transferring that energy into your (the Longsword users) next swing. Because a small dagger has very little power being it (literally, it has little kinetic energy) it has no transfer of motion and hence it has a very low window.

Mechanically the reasoning is for that that each players agency needs to be respected, a heavier weapon has more damage and usually more multipliers to that damage that can augment it. This means there's wider (more distinct) windows of power in combat. For ex. BAxe has a medium to slow swing time compared to other general weapons but hits far harder than ~90% of them. If you get a head shot it's easily to multiple that base damage into a oneshot. And it doesn't require any set up or prerequisites. Those windows of power are key to longsword and its interactions with other weapons .

As for why is riposte 1.825x dmg? Thematically it follows that same transfer of motion and kinetic energy. Mechanically it needs a signicant payoff for the prerequisites necessary. To parry you must allow yourself to be in melee range of someone, and be on a reactionary state (relinquish fight priority), as well as the hitbox being signically smaller (area wise) than even a buckler. This requires some considerable skill expression to either bait a hit, tank it and then riposte off the weapon midhit; or preemptively get a flawless parry. Even if you do get a parry, you can still miss or the enemy can still dodge your riposte. That's a ton of points of failures.

@brazen token @jolly leaf

[light pebble]

thats cool i also think that longsword is fine where it is like i can parry rapier as often as a falchon

[jolly leaf]

I read what you said, but not everything make sens imo. I understand the deflect idea but when we are talking of a Barbarian swinging a Double axe or a War Maul? Good luck deflecting that. And for the 1.8x damage, with your logic the damage should be reduce if you parry a smaller weapon then. But for me the idea of reflecting is limited to certain type of weapon, sword mainly, spear and halebard. You don't block or deflect a axe or War maul hit, that make no sense, you just get wipe if you try that. Even if you'r actually deflecting it you'll have to put full force in your motion to make the hit go to the ground on something like that, you can't use the kinetic energy to riposte, not on a big two handed weapon
And yes the weapon need condition to use the riposte but even without that, Longsword have range, decent damage, kinda low movement penalty compared to other 2 handed weapon

[brazen token]

If there was stagger to the parry from a heavy impact, the longsword wielder wouldn't be able to riposte, because that's how the impact mechanic works for shields and weapons that can't do this. They get staggered, and are open to other hits. The longsword gets a pass because its just handwaved that it can parry literally everything that it blocks and follow up with a riposte regardless of what its parrying.

As for the damage multiplier, My issue is its the single highest multiplier in the game by far. I'm not saying it shouldn't be higher than 100%. I could even get it if it were at 130%. But 180% is insane. This is a video game. Numbers shouldn't shoot that high on an individual weapon mechanic before anything else is even considered imo. Not when its the lone example.

[uneven thunder]

Great Weapon Mastery for fighter: Lose the ability to use Crossbow, One handers, and Bows. Gain 10% action speed, 10% Item Armor Rating Bonus, and -10% Armor Speed Penalty Bonus. Item Armor Rating Bonus and Armor Speed Penalty Bonus stacks additively with Swift and Defense Mastery perks.

Weapon Mastery should get -13% physical damage bonus nerf. Dagger Plate fighter and Longbow/Windlass Plate fighter is beyond goofy.

[sage oyster]

I do agree it is inconsistent on weapon types for damage (small vs large) in context to the rationalization. I don't think it's a stretch to deflect a battle axe (in irl terms) for example, if deflecting the axe head, but a war maul would indeed be weird and almost impossible. My suspicion is that they made this decision for gameplay consistency.

You could totally add a "riposte sweet spot" for all the different polygons on a model of a weapon but it's overly ambitious and way out of scope for little return on development time imo. Instead they made it simpler for the head or main bladed parts of weapons and the bottom of hills be the riposte "hitboxes".

[uneven thunder]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568512/fighter-great-weapon-mastery-perk

[echo kindle]

They need to make private matches a thing for practice on bossing, I stg its so annoying having to go an hour between getting ghost king just so I can die halfway through the fight. I just want to practice, why is there no such way to do so besides going into an online match? Just make it so that when you extract from a private match, you get no real rewards and dont get to keep the items you found in raid. It's such a simple concept that a lot of people would love. Not to mention it would help settle debates within the discord for a lot of people lol, as well as set up tournaments.

[runic heron]

bring back ruins

[jolly leaf]

Should be back next season

[sage oyster]

I think you are fixating that the sword should be considering a shield when in a defensive stance. It is indeed a "3rd" special state and doesn't work like a shield because you are not trying to block something, you're trying to catch a weapon on the blade of the longsword. Unlike spear and bardiche which have true blocks, using their shafts to truly stop a weapon. Additionally the enemy who is parried does not get staggered AFAIK, it would make little sense to only have one party be affected if the other isn't. Hence this special interaction of impact power.

The reasoning behind the high multiplier is specifically all the perquisites. If it was easier to do and had less counterclaim that would be much lower. There are multiple even one handed weapons that have combos that go to 1.15 and 1.2, just under that 1.3x you suggest. But those have much less barrier to entry.

Just doing quick math, let's take a barb with a poor double axe, no perks, no armor, head shotting with the first swing of his combo with the sweet spot of the axe. 20 str base = 5 phys pwr = 5% phys dmg bonus. Poor double axe = 50 dmg base head shot = 1.5. First swing multiplier = 1 : 501.051*1.5 = 78.75dmg

Let's compare to fighter with longsword using their first stab. 15 str = 0 phys per. Head shot = 1.5. Poor LS = 39 dmg. 39*1.5 = 58.5.

That's a 20 damage delta, LS is doing ~16% less damage comparatively swing per swing on a head shot.

Let's do a parry/riposte version for the LS. 391.81.5 = 105.3

That's again just about a 20 damage difference vs a double axe. Or again just about a 16% difference.

The thing is it requires way more set up and execution, a regular swing does not. That multiplier is there because there would never be a reason to try to parry anyone if it was lower. The numbers just don't support it considering the required prerequisites and trade offs.

All the * for multiplication made formatting errors lol. Was too engrossed in making the math correctly on mobile

[jolly leaf]

In purely damage yes the longsword is worst. But compared to that double axe the longsword have better range and less movement penalty. And imo even if riposte damage was lower you would still want to do it, you still block a hit, stagger the ennemy and have 2 hit while he's stagger

[sage oyster]

LS has impact resistance of 3, DAxe has impact power of 5. If it does stagger its a weak stagger (which i did not know tbh and it doesnt clearly state on the wiki if a riposte causes an attacker stagger, my anecdotal evidence is no, but it may be inperspectable to the defender). Unfortunately the wiki doesn't have definitive attacker stagger timings but based off of the buckler which has the least weak defender stagger duration it would be a stagger of .3sec or less. Just the windup for the first riposte is .33 seconds, and the attack itself .167 seconds, meaning .5 seconds essentially. That means you have .5 seconds to disengage and either be out of range or duck/dodge the riposte.

The 2nd riposte takes another .763 and .133, ~.8 seconds on top of that.

[topaz meadow]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/562441/increase-hit-box-for-chickens-peckclaw-attack

DRUIDS UNITE (for real please upvote), DEMAND THEY AT LEAST BUFF CHICKEN ATTACK. IF THEY WANT US TO BE NICHE THEN GIVE US WHAT WE WANT!

[coral heron]

so now this game is a FPS... everyone and their moms have bows. fighters are just better rangers, bards too. and its all ranged all the time now. get rid or armor pen on bows, this is cancer!!!

[jolly leaf]

The real issue is that fighter don't have the malus damage when using bow anymore

[topaz meadow]

Literally. Unless you’re a trap happy ranger, IM basically invalidated the reason to play ranger. Sure, you have the ability to track and hear players, but why does that matter when you can run plate with the armored move speed bonus perk and sprint and basically do more on every front?

[jolly leaf]

Well you can eat biscuit and put campfire faster

[topaz meadow]

The point I think myself and others are making is that those unique ranger abilities don’t carry the same weight as the fighter ones and the class identity is suffering.

[queen igloo]

Immortal lament should prevent you from taking lethal damage from Dark Offering and Blood Pact.

[jolly leaf]

Actually, why not. That's a good idea

[queen igloo]

Infernal Pledge should also give innate Magic Penetration and Armor Penetration to undead and demons.

[obtuse raptor]

Ranger traps should slow hit targets by 50% for 3 seconds and decrease armor by 20% for 10 seconds (or remove traps). Ranger arrow damage drop-off should be significantly less and the "Sharpshooter" perk (15% headshot power) should be innate. Rewarding rangers with quality aim would be more enjoyable and skill driven than those that place traps everywhere. This is the opinion of a longtime Ranger main

[sharp cape]

nerf all forms of invisibility, having to tiptoe EVERYWHERE is awful for the game
thats the same reason you should also nerf hunting traps

[forest hearth]

There should be more or stronger mob oriented perks considering how much time you spend in pve, even simple stuff like rogue getting a perk that reduces aggro range

[worldly socket]

I know there are more important issues to address and this has probably been mentioned before.. But it would be pretty awesome if we had our own crafting system that didnt feel tied to the vendors. When I craft an item right now, I feel like i'm just buying something from the vendor. I do the work gathering mats whether Ore, Herbs, Mats from mobs and then just hand it to someone else and check back to my inventory to see what he gave me. Maybe its the Testosterone in me but it would give a lot more satisfaction as if though your character made it. Start To Finish. Blood, Sweat and Beer Tears. Maybe introduce crafting recipes into the game via vendor(Basics), Quests, and Loot. Possibly even add in Profession levels?

[wispy wing]

Here me out some form of parry on a one handed weapon

[median mural]

Crafting will eventually get a major overhaul eventually I think. I'd love a more in depth combining and reforging system like PoE

[median mural]

Lantern shield and flute say hi

[ashen canyon]

Weapon says they don’t count.

I don’t know why a dagger can’t be used to parry, throughout history they’ve been used that way, I’d love to see a parry dagger, something that can be used to deflect a weapon with low impact, but say longsword, war maul, or any two handed weapon it just chunks right past it

@jolly leaf your thoughts on such an implementation?

Also sorry if you don’t want to be pinged for random things, I should have gotten your okay before doing that xP. You just seem like a collected person who gives good thought to suggestions and I’d like your* take on something like this.

[jolly leaf]

Good idea. Not the first time I saw it but yes imo all weapon (or at least more or maybe under used like Short sword etc) should be able to parry, not nescessary riposte but parry weapon with the same Impact power than your Impact resistance. Maybe you can still parry bigger weapon but then get a massiv stagger lile when you block a Skeleton Warlord hit or you can block to take reduced damage. Could be interesting to be able to parry with your two weapon when you're dual welding, to have a better impact resistance and parry bigger weapon

[ashen canyon]

With swords that seems like a good idea, however on a dagger I think anything two handed would be too much to try and parry with a dagger, maybe reduce some of the damage but nothing major

[jolly leaf]

Don't worry Go ahead if you want my opinion or the answer to a question

[spring urchin]

These devs are complete ass they don't pay attention to ANY of the suggestions AT ALL

They just continue to buff the most broken classes! And nerf the weak classes!

[ashen canyon]

When your a dev, try coming back and telling us how you juggle your work load and balance issues, then MAYBE you can give your opinion on such but right now your just whining that you don’t see your suggestion (or ones you like) being implemented lickity split.

[jolly leaf]

Well they do but not on the Discord, you need to make one here like this one https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem. If it gather enough upvote they might use it (actually some good suggestions with low upvote have been added in the past)

[jolly leaf]

Maybe we could finally make use of dual welding with dagger and make parry more effective with two dagger

[spring urchin]

Actually I do WAY more then dev work for a living, secondly I have posted several suggestions on there, but the people who play the most broken classes just complain about it on there and it doesn't get any attention whatsoever! So adding suggestions on there does nothing at all

[ashen canyon]

Doubtful if you still find time to complain like this…. Just saying

[ashen canyon]

Oooh I like that idea, using it in tandem with another weapon would def increase the party resistance strength

[spring urchin]

Right, I am make more with my salary in a single hour then you make in a month before you run your mouth and just assume get your facts straight

[jolly leaf]

Well it's the first I see you speak in this channel and I spend a lot of time here. So maybe try to speak about your idea here from time to time. I actually get some could discussion and a decent amount of people upvote the suggestions I try to promote

[ashen canyon]

Cool story bro tell it again.

[jolly leaf]

Don't hesitate to look if there is already a suggestion about that or make one. I'll gladly upvote it

[spring urchin]

Well they need to nerf warlock and wizard that is all I am saying! IF you are ANY kind of PDR class whatsoever, you can't catch them, they can just kite you for days, and just kill you. That's all there is to it

[jolly leaf]

Well I agree about Warlock being too strong (Look at that suggestions https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic) but Warlock and wizard ar kinda made to counter the slow tanky class. The game is a Rock, Paper, Scissor you can't kill anyone with a single class. Ranged class are the counter to tank

[ashen canyon]

Where’s your throwing weapons at? Drop some armor to catch them? There are answers for those problems, you don’t know how many times I’ve went in full plate fighter, got found by a mage hid around the corner dropped chest and legs, then chased them down when they came to the corner to chase

[spring urchin]

Tell that to a PDR cleric, tell me how you're supposed to use range with them

[ashen canyon]

It’s called judgement (I believe, may be wrong. But there is a ranged skill you can take that will damage and slow them), it’s ranged and a slow, catch them at the corner, drop some heavier armor and chase em down

[jolly leaf]

The game is balanced for 3vs3 so yes of course in solo some match up are unfair but as @ashen canyon said most of the time there is a few thing you can do

[graceful frost]

You can catch every ranged class on cleric and fighter.

You can move super fast with plate and tank a ton. It may not be the best matchup but you need to play it right

[ashen canyon]

This ^

[spring urchin]

Okay here is the thing with judgement, you have to be close enough to them AND you have to basically be facing them for it to work. IF they move even a little bit out of you facing them, your judgement cancels! I upvoted both of those suggestions about warlock! Secondly, with being PDR, you're so much slower, I play PDR cleric, and have played that from the start, simply put, IF you get a judgement off, BAM all a warlock has to do it phantomize, and they're away from you, BAM curse you and they're back to full health, and your health is just ticking away

[jolly leaf]

Hey @graceful frost

[spring urchin]

I have almost 900 hours on cleric played! NO I am by far a complete expert on the class, of course there probably is some new techniques I could learn, but that's just how things are right now. Still the move speed is unbalanced

[ashen canyon]

Doors are a life saver, and you can take off some armor to catch them, try taking light foot boots with additional move speed or move speed %. I’ve only been playing a month and don’t have to many high gs matches under my belt yet, but I’ve played HR with gs around 160, still killed a warlock with gs 250+

[jolly leaf]

We can agree that Movespeed is an issues. They need some way to balance it, but I haven't see any good suggestions about that yet

[graceful frost]

hello

[spring urchin]

I mean do they really need suggestions to REALIZE how unbalanced it really is though? That's my point! THEY KNOW that this is an ongoing issue, but instead of focusing on things that really need taken care of they're more focused on just buffing classes that are already OP as it is

[jolly leaf]

Yeah, doors, Agi plate item, jugement/Holy strike (i think holy work on phatomized warlock)

[spring urchin]

They changed Agi though, it doesn't give as much move speed as it did before. They nerfed agi, that's the thing, but having to put agi on a piece of gear takes away having the base stats that you really need

[ashen canyon]

They changed agi (correct me if I’m wrong) because classes that could outrun and kite you, have easy access to them.

[jolly leaf]

Well they're a little team, there is probably only very few people who work on balancing. Also balancing might look simple but it's actually way more complex than it seem. Cleric is the perfect exemple of that, was a mid class last season, didn't got any buff at all but it became one of the strongest class this season. And also they said in ladt Q&A that they're slowing down balancing to focus on other stuff until the end of the season. And for last every change are not nescessarly balancing, some of them is just the dev trying new thing to see how it goes or to get data.

[jolly leaf]

They change agi but reduce armor movement penalty. The agi nerf was more a nerf for faster class imo

[faint onyx]

I mean, look at the pick ratings for the different classes. There are no wizards anywhere. There are a billion clerics, warlocks, fighters and rogues.

[civic seal]

Would anybody like to see a rework of barbarians axe specialization perk? as of now all it does is increase damage by 5, and is outclassed by barbs other damage perks. I think it would be cool if it increased movement speed as you progressed through a combo, or maybe just a flat action speed buff.

[prisma ravine]

90% of the perks in the game are trash, alot of them need to be reworked/buffed

[muted crag]

Like combine swift and defense mastery

[foggy sun]

the bard skills are the worst

[ripe turtle]

You know what I want? The Lich boss NOT cast that purple aura if there are no other players in the room. I would like to solo it with my Fighter and Barbarian.

[hasty wedge]

This is simply not true

[coral heron]

every game is ppl shoot run repeat, then theirs warlock phantomize, this chase meta is so cancer

[midnight whale]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568088/make-druid-playable-again

[quasi fern]

Can rogue get double jump back now that Druid can triple jump and fly across a room?

[civic seal]

okay so I suggested a rework for a perk

[jovial swan]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568664/new-sprinting-mechanic-endurance-attribute

[keen cloud]

What's the reason for not having quests cross-character? I don't see any advantages or disadvantages to it.

[crimson jewel]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568677/please-remove-nightmare-skeleton-axes-second-attack-its-not-funny

[hard fjord]

They are going to add it

[shell canopy]

Why they will do that if they do that we will receive less reward and that bad

[jolly leaf]

It's seem there is some negative side effect that are not obvious. The dev want to add it but it's seem more complex than it seems. You can watch the last Q&A on Onepeg's channel they talk about it

[hard fjord]

Standardized unlockables like crafting and squire gear

[jolly leaf]

I like the idea, but don't you think endurance is going to be the new move speed stat? Everyone will want to max it and it won't fix the issues. What's make it different from the actual move speed we have?

[keen cloud]

@hard fjord thanks both of u

[hard fjord]

Another problem with it being universal is the xp gained

[jolly leaf]

Because some player don't have time to play a lot but still want to play several class. Right now it's really time consuming to do quest on every class. But in the same time if they do that it's less thing's to do for people who play more. The solution is what @hard fjord said, an in between where only squire progession and maybe craft are unlocked to every character

[hard fjord]

Most people don’t want to play new classes due to the lack of gear and the time it takes to get said gear from quests

[fiery coyote]

WHAT THE BUG IS WHEN WALK DONT MAKE SOUND ONE CLASS...THE ROGUE NEED ONE PERK FOR THESE ADVANTAGE AND ONE WARLOK FULL PLATE NO MAKE SOUND ONE PFF IS SHIT

[hard fjord]

Yo bro your headphones might need to be turned up a bit

[proven valley]

Double warlock hydra is broken right now and perma traps players.
Interesting change to fix it: one of any class per team comp

[glacial sphinx]

huge and harsh change for a limited problem

[civic seal]

that would prevent my triple wizard team comp

[jovial swan]

What makes it different is that while yes, this means classes with higher endurance can sustain their heightened speed for longer, classes who have higher agility will still have a faster baseline speed in order to softly mitigate that. They're both supposed to be some sort of counter toward each other, hence why the attributes are typically higher on classes with low move speed (by gear or attribute) and less on classes with higher movement speed (by gear or attribute).

The reason not everyone should want to maximize it is because maximizing it will only bring higher sustain but not overall heightened movement speed, which can become a problem if your enemy does have a high base move speed stat to counter. And this doesn't account for burst movement either.

[paper apex]

They talked about account wide npc affinity in the qna. That way you can still do quests repeatedly if you want on other characters

[jolly leaf]

Ok, ok. Well imo it'll definitely be better than what we have now and one more stat will nerf gear a bit more (which is a good thing). But imo it won't solve the movespeed king stat issues, it's just going to move the problem, it'll help but not solve it but I don't think any solution will really solve it so it's probably a good solution

[jolly leaf]

Yes I remember that they don't want craft to be account wide to avoid to spam craft

[random fractal]

Hello I know there are a lot more pressing issues to fix then this one, but can the volume of the fire and torches be lowered it is so loud imo

[paper apex]

Making the npc affinity account wide would make it to where you can craft/buy whatever you want on all of your characters so long as you have the quests done on atleast one character

[civic seal]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568701/rework-barbarians-axe-specialization-perk

[orchid magnet]

crafting items for gems items like emerald or rubies and other jewlerey in the dungeon

[wind path]

Great idea, I’ve always wanted faster movespeed while attacking using axes like the double axe.

[civic seal]

Thanks, ive been using counterattack on fighter recently and thought the temporary movespeed felt so good.

[soft acorn]

After all these buffs on rogues, armor pene in daggers etc. Rogues are too op with hand crossbows. Remove them the ability to use it or make it as a perk please.

[mystic raptor]

Add a bag of holding and have it act like the item case from tarkov

[ivory ferry]

Guys, I have some issues with this featureupvote website.
One of the suggestions in "done" is "quivers for ranger arrow storage." which is certainly no in-game.
Other 2 that are "done" are about removing the map rotation, which is, again, not implemented.
Do we have any clues if they really listen to these suggestions?
Since the game is "small" and "newish" would be great if we heard more stuff directly from the developers or at least someone from IM.
I'm relatively new to this Discord, so that may be a thing but I haven't seen it yet.

[ashen canyon]

As far as I’m aware, quivers as well as backpacks are being worked on for implementation, I’m not entirely sure on removing map rotation, but it very well could be something they are planning to implement and thus no longer needs upvotes

[ivory ferry]

I see, I think the problem lies more in someone managing the featureupvote better. Because they have different statuses like “planned” and “not planned”, and those not being populated (only 1 planned and 0 not planned) enough compared to the amount of suggestions is a little weird.

[jolly leaf]

The Quiver is not in "Done" but in "Planned". It is planned but not a priority, we should get it some day tho. And for the "Removing Map rotation" is more than it's not really accurate. In the pas we used to have Map rotation, then is what removed as the suggestions asked, but they decide to put it back. I do think they looking at the suggestions but I agree that they don't manage the site correcly. Some are "Done" but still in the "Under consideration", other are planned but not in the "Planned" categorie also the fact that people can make multiple suggestions for the same thing or the fact that they never wipe any of the suggestions make the website unclear and unfriendly

[somber hearth]

Give all characters bows, if a fighter / ranger can hold you off down range let everyone else do it

[jolly leaf]

No? We don't want the game to become a fps. The real answer is to remove bow from figther or revert the damage malus when they use it. Imo to many class have range option

[somber hearth]

Agreed on remove bow from fighter but they are going the opposite direction with that.

[jolly leaf]

I hope they're just trying something and it will be reverted next hotfix or within the next hotfix

[somber hearth]

I wish I was optimistic but I've seen bow fighter reign supreme at least two other times.

[jolly leaf]

Well they said in spoke about Balancing in the last Q&A and said that it should be less chaotic from now on. They used to have very different vision of balancing and fight internally to push there very different idea. That why some change didn't make a lot of change or thing kept come getting added then removed etc. They changed their approach about that as it was toxic for them and for us player so it should be better now

[somber hearth]

That's really good to hear

the recent changes have been really positive, took a six month break and it's improved a lot

[jolly leaf]

Yep the playtest and this first year of Early was a really chaotic but it really look like they've learned from their mistake and with the "end" of training of the news people they hired a few month ago it should only go better and better

[unique seal]

Please grant Wizard the ability to cast at least one Holy spell Im beyond tired of having to use an ungodly amount of spells on a Warlock purely because of antimagic giving a flat 25% bonus

[ivory ferry]

Actually... there is one in done
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/483953/quivers-for-ranger-arrow-storage

[glossy ridge]

Running side to side as panther should not get you hit by the lich or any archer plz and thank you :/

[soft acorn]

any chances on implemeting anti-cheat system ? or you will ban them manually after weeks or so. These people who just inspect you in lobby just to full push you in the game are so anyoing. Most of them they are gold farmes who are reselling gold on websites.

I wish there was an overwatch like in CS:GO to see the pov of the people who got a lot of reports

[steep willow]

do anticheat, 2 times a row dead coz cheaters, i am stop playing this game

[jolly leaf]

Ok but the one planned have 900+ upvote https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471139/quivers-for-rangers. But I was agree with you that some suggestions are miss placed

[steady wyvern]

i think it would be cool if you could parry and riposte with the rapier. what do yall think?

[jolly leaf]

@soft acorn @steep willow There is an anticheat, and they are fully aware of the problem. But everyone know that cheater are an issues the no game ever succeed to solve. At best your can have very intrusive software that reduce the issues like League of Legend but it's really expansive and still not perfect. Especially for this game where you can farm gold and where the studio is quite small. They're doing there best to fight this issues. Report the cheater they get actually get Ban, it's the best they can do imo

[jolly leaf]

That would be cool, someone suggested almost the same thing a few day ago. Imo we could push the idea further tan just the rapier -> #suggestion-discussion message

[grave stirrup]

Remove the range limitations on wizard spells. By the time anyone is within casting range they're a second away from being in your face

Wizard is a ranged class, why give them low range on spells?? Never understood that

[jolly leaf]

Because the game is balanced for trio. In trio you'r supposed to have a frontline that will allow you to throw spell without getting rush. Also with enough gear and spell casting speed you should be able to deni someone who is rushing you

[grave stirrup]

shouldnt balance a game based on 1 of 3 game modes

[dense wing]

they are a rather small team so its better to keep producing more content for the game and do balancing targetted towards one game mode instead of targetting all and getting so little new content that players leave.

[jovial swan]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568664/new-sprinting-mechanic-endurance-attribute Continuing to keep this suggestion relevant.

[jolly leaf]

The thing is that the game used to be trio only at the beginning and solo/duo wasn't even planned. Trio is and always have been the main game mods

[grave stirrup]

i know lol been here since the stone age

[nimble shadow]

Mobile marketplace manager/stash tab app. Imagine being bored in your office job but you could organize your stash/access the marketplace at least to list items

[jolly leaf]

That could be nice xD But unfortunately it would ask a lot of time and resource for something that's a bit gadget

[nimble shadow]

I can pray
I have a couple friends who might be able to help out as well for a one off project but yeah unsure how complex it would actually be

[midnight whale]

Hear me out, treant should be put on a cooldown instead of having charges, that way you have to really think about how you use it and you can't just spam them one after another, but you don't have to sit on the floor half the game.

No ones really using tree anymore, its not worth it at this point, especially without scaling.

The only people dying to tree and complete timmies, in geared lobbies it gets pretty much one/two tapped.

[atomic whale]

Long sword is joke. I died to figher in green doublet, wtf is that dmg, and how did he managed to have such high hp

[minor gazelle]

Landmine Rogue too prevalent and too oppressive, +50% dmg bonus on Ambush is too much - they are already perfectly able to pick and choose their fights, they shouldn't be able to win swing for swing vs every class

[elfin vale]

tldr buff rogue

[quasi fern]

agree

[willow panther]

For the love of god remove the "are you sure" when i press escape to leave the market

YES IM SURE

[silk escarp]

Add spell:

Misty Step-
Spell type, recharge duration, spell amount, spell sounds and casting characteristics including casting time etc. Identical to invis.

Description:

After a short delay, teleport a short distance within sight,similar to the casting style of a lightning strike or zap range (other side of door, slightly higher ground, relatively low otherwise unreachable area, behind enemy etc.)

Balance suggestion:
Have a sort of small arcane plume of smoke/trail traveling in the direction of the casters intended location as if "floating" from casting location to intended location. (Trail would be similar to rogues ambush essence upon revelation after hide except arcane-y)

[jolly leaf]

There is this good suggestion about a rework of rogue and landmine especially #suggestion-discussion message

[jovial tinsel]

this doesn't address Hide or "landmine meta" which only effects solo players.

the real answer to hide / land mine meta is allowing torches to dispell hide early. If you walk to a door with your torch they cant just jump your ass.

[jolly leaf]

Well if rogue can't one shot people with a Hide/Ambush combo then the Landmine meta is adressed, no? Have you also read the message after the suggestion?

[jovial tinsel]

you should die to a rogue who cut throat you out of ambush imo. He got you, thats the class strategy. Just like you wouldnt take a fight with a bard who just debuffed you with the flute. Rogue really only takes advantage of landmine if they guess what room you want to go through next and beat you there. The easiest way I get kills is using creep, following a player until he thinks hes safe, and I just wait for him to swap to something other than his weapon and loot. You are dead, you literally cant fight back. If hide gets removed or nerfed into poo, you will see more players playing this way, and it will get complained about just the same

[jovial tinsel]

^

[jolly leaf]

Well when a bard debuff you, you are aware he's here and you can step back. A rogue who Landmine don't let you that chance that's why it's stronger and way more unfair. That's why imo Hide purpose should be change from getting an attack boost after Hide to reduce damage after Hide but increase action speed so you don't do a lot of damage but can stack your poison on the target.

And remember that the game is balanced for trio, the Poison Rogue will probably be weaker in solo but way more usefull/stronger in trio (and duo)

[jovial tinsel]

Rogue is arguably not that good in solo to begin with. The higher your GS goes, the more you pwn light armor, and the more armor pwns you. Its just the great equalizer, no class can survive a well kitted rogue, who played his game perfect. If rogue wants to kill plate players he needs to design his character for it, which will make him weaker against classes like Warlock, druid, wizard. If rogue wants to kill casters and maybe rangers, he needs to change his spec, which will make it impossible to kill characters like Fighter, Cleric, Barbarian. Im just saying its not all that good, though its been a long time since rogue was "something to complain about".

I'm all about the poison "spell" idea, but I would rather that not replace hide or trade it for a worse version of hide, Rogue can have both, why not?

[jolly leaf]

Well some people won't have the same opinions than you on High GS rogue, but even like that, most people don't play with high GS so rogue is a issues for most of the player. I agree that rogue even with Hide can't kill everyone unless he have the good build. But still the issues is not on if he can kill this class or not it's how they kill them, and Landmine is really unfair and not fun for the class who get killed (A full plate fighter who get kill in 4 sec and can't do anything about it, that's just toxic for the game)

Lot of people blame the invisibility but the real problem is the Ambush/Damage you have right after the Hide. That's why imo Hide should stay but the purpose should change to helping you applying your poison and reduce your damage when invis break

[floral inlet]

I just think barbarian crush should be innate or is it too op? cuz it defeats the purpose of being a "barbarian" tbh

[jolly leaf]

Well no class have stuff like innate ability so yeah it might be too broken

[jolly leaf]

Maybe they could make door or chest have a impact resistance so really big weapon can crush them. Even with 2 hit it might be faster than opening them with certain class

[quiet bison]

Buff barbarian

[jolly leaf]

Nerf the class that are too strong instead of buffing

[quiet bison]

Nerf rogue again

[jolly leaf]

Rework rogue, for sure. The Landmine is unbalancable. Look at the for a good suggestion about a rogue rework #suggestion-discussion message

[frank herald]

need more context on itemlevel bracket, comp, etc

[atomic whale]

Me: purple armors, legendary arming sword, enemy light armor and blue longsword, thats what I remeber, I used all plate armor, do not remeber enemy tho, i have not checked his stats too much, but ye i was triggered at that moment

[dusty wagon]

STRONGLY suggesting Ice Abyss gets changed so ranged options cant be chucked from wyvern platform into rooms. Literally old ruins map level of rangers in the rafters. Its very obnoxious getting shot at from a whole tile over, big streamers/dnd content creators abusing this oversight in full legendaries in normal lobbies

[median peak]

please make the wyvern less RNG, atm i can kill it in 5 min with longsword one run and the next i cant damage it at all because it just refuse to do some moves

only ranged can beat it every time which is very lame

[pastel onyx]

ur ass, thats the problem
dont blame the "balancing" for a fumble, just get over it

[atomic whale]

Higher tier armor is balanced if its so easy damaged? ok tell me more xD

[pastel onyx]

what armor were you running

[atomic whale]

fine cuirass purple
all armor was purple, all plate, have you not read? Classic chatter

[pastel onyx]

idk man, i think you mightve just fumbled, he also mightve been stacking a luh bit of true phys (just a thought)
i say that because you didnt remember what he had mostly, so he couldve been stacking

[glass mesa]

gelatinous cube @keen onyx

[earnest swift]

they buffed fighter because of the new players and now old fighters are abusing it and its back to old meta with fighters being jack of trade master of all and i hate it

[ripe turtle]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568934/emote-suggestion-for-longsword-duelists < Emote suggestion for Longsword duelists.

[midnight whale]

make rat door jumps less punishing so that the laggy ass servers dont get you killed.

Skill based mechanic? More like luck based mechanic.

oh wait nvm sorry i forgot we dont do druid bug fixes....

[uneven rain]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568088/make-druid-playable-again

[glass mesa]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568947/add-the-dd-gelatinous-cube-to-the-game

UPVOTE ME THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT !

[stiff pike]

Do i have to get the last swing on the troll quest to complete it?

[wind sand]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564860/gifting-of-redstone-shards-to-other-players
UP VOTE! so that we can buy other people legendary edition on steam!

[glacial sphinx]

Whats the point of giving every class the same amount of total base stats when you then create a huge difference in the amount of stats they get from gear? Why does a Wizard hat have only grant 1 magic power but a dark grove hat or an elkwood crown gets two real attributes and better defenses? Give it knowledge and magic power or something at least and increase the headshot reduction to 8%.

And same for Wizard shoes, lowest armor, no real stat, low move speed. Completely unusable. They should be 8 movespeed. Darkleaf boots have 6 movespeed, two real stats and better armor.

[jolly leaf]

They're aware that some item are bad. But gear will change in the futur there is different new system they want to try. Also the fact that darkleaf boot are better than wizard shoes or stitch trunshoe is only really true for the few first rarity. Most of the double stat item are either limited to certain class or have two stat that are not really good together

[valid oak]

yes better than now, rogues now are no skill cancer class

[valid oak]

yes

[inland raft]

Do a better job at keeping high latency players from the servers.. it's killing my games :/

[meager jasper]

Do it. Let the rogues get reworked into something that isnt insufferable

[reef quartz]

When transforming for Druid, you should be able to fill out into a space rather than getting transformation blocked. Unless this is an I tended skill expression. It should only cancel in actually small spaces where it’s impossible to transform.

[atomic whale]

After playing HR for more than week, I came to conclusion, that Entry fee should be removed.

And there should be penalty for dying in dungeon.
Plus, it could be greater.

[jolly leaf]

Have a look at that, it's a Rogue rework idea that I find awesome #suggestion-discussion message

[jolly leaf]

I think it's more to avoid clipping through the floor and ground

[reef quartz]

That’s why it should fill you into space in the map. Like. Ounce you off walls a bit if you transform into something bigger

[jolly leaf]

What's the thing you would like to add or change the most in the game right now?

[midnight whale]

remove some of the gbmm from oce already so that it isnt dead outside of peak hours please...

[jolly leaf]

That should be fixed with the new matchmaking system that should be released within the next few week

[midnight whale]

oh? had not heard anything about this? got a link to the changes or info?

[jolly leaf]

The most viable source of info would be in the last dev Q&A on Onepeg's channel (a few week ago) but we got info on that a bit from announcement or Graysun in the general chat

[midnight whale]

ah fair enough, i guess ill have to have a look, thanks dude.

[jolly leaf]

To make it short, the main goal would be to counter pre teaming, it should also improve gear and skill gap and make matchmaking faster. We don't really know how it will work but I have my idea

[granite plinth]

1 a class based around loot and trinkets so the more they pick up the more buffs they get.

2 - Ranger feels like a weaker fighter with longbow and a weaker bard with surv bow. Caster classes get very little Ms penalty with spell books -10 vs bows -30 -40 -50 possibly introduce a perk that halves the ms reduction of bows in your hand for ranger.

[jolly leaf]

1 The class are linked to Dungeon and dragon class so we already know the future class and I don't know if we're going to have more class than that.

2 Yes pls. But the real answer imo would be to nerf or remove ranged weapon for class other than Ranger.

[granite plinth]

I hate to say remove because it’s nice having competition for range that said when you’re fighting a pdr fighter and hit them 5 times with a longbow and their health goes down by .3 and you get hit once to be at half health really feels just gross lmao

[jolly leaf]

Yes I feel you but unfortunately range is really strong in this game and when you tends to allow multiple class to use ranged weapon or at least not nerf them when they use it then two thing happen : People over use them and the game become ranged only and it penalizes class who don't have any (or really few) range option like Barbarian and also Ranger as it's the only thing they have and other class are stronger than them with ranger weapon most of the time

[dapper gull]

Rework ice caves or remove it

[jolly leaf]

Mind to say why?

[dapper gull]

The map is boring, no one plays it, and it’s just a quest map. Literally everyone who queues it is just farming for AP in HR or just doing it to complete quests. I rarely ever run into anyone

I think the different mobs were a good idea but it’s too annoying to deal with the PVE while looking for pvp so no pvpers run it

[remote whale]

Hope they add a bat or harpy form to druid

[quasi fern]

@midnight whale just lower gear score to 124

[viscid swift]

If you spawn on the west side you have 2 champions and some wolfs to kill. If you spawn more on the east side you can kill one champion and leave the map. Most of the time there is no point traveling west because mobs are dead and people with loot are already gone. There is nothing more to do, killing mobs (other than wolfs) is not rewarding.
Abyss is also bad. If you are not planning on killing dragon, just go inferno instead. Easier mobs and better loot.

As mentioned above, you play ice cave only to do quests and farm AP.

[midnight whale]

For what? What would this solve?

[quasi fern]

@midnight whalemore people in 124 lobbies

[midnight whale]

During peak hours, during off peak hours 124 is either dead or filled with Chinese teamers and hackers.

[quasi fern]

ya thats OCE for you suck have you try to play eu or is it laggy?

[midnight whale]

Every other server is too laggy for me unfortunately, I'm in the middle of the ocean.

[quasi fern]

ya that sucks

[midnight whale]

I just wish they'd do ping locking already, they tried it and then removed it.

[quasi fern]

hmm it did have ping lock for a few weeks

[midnight whale]

Yeah almost immediately removed despite that being a great time for us. Id take extra dead servers over constant teamers and cheaters lol. They could just remove some of the queues for us.

[quasi fern]

get spud to ask about it lol

[midnight whale]

Knowing spud, I guarantee he's on it already tbf. Bros been addressing this issue for ages.

[quasi fern]

ya he was super happy with ping lock

[midnight whale]

So was i lmao

It was a great time, we had our server back. It was quieter, but ill take that over cheaters and teamers.

[quasi fern]

happens on EU very late night

[midnight whale]

Idk why they can't just stay on their own servers

[quasi fern]

@midnight whale no clue

[ripe turtle]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569096/bardiche-artifact-suggestion < New artifact weapon suggestion. Leave a vote if you like it!

[twilit fern]

I have a few pictures of a spot on gob caves where you can kinda clip through a wall who does one report that too?

[static gazelle]

Ironmace, Gib Drow

[jolly leaf]

Don't know but you can #report-a-bug

[static gazelle]

Can also hit escape while at the lobby and click submit a ticket and there is a report a bug option

[steep willow]

5 games a row cheaters and u said it is anticheat in this game bullshit

[naive shore]

warlord minions have a tendency to teleport just outside of boss room and fuck me, I suggest a change to that

[static gazelle]

I also had that happen its pretty common I found

[jolly leaf]

What's the thing you would like to add or change the most in the game right now?

[rustic moth]

Can we have an extra emote wheel for ingame? too many fun emotes, not enough room

[ripe turtle]

emote loadouts?

[crimson palm]

I am once again complaining that I never got my nightmare skeleton skin reward from s1 even though I earned it. Please allow me to claim my reward

[jolly leaf]

They're was timer to claim the reward. They said that if you didn't claimed it when it was possible then it's too late

[crimson palm]

How was I supposed to know that they didn’t send an email to me or a letter to my house.

[jolly leaf]

Well I didn't say it was fair or anything. If I remember right they didn't even say it was timed, a lot of people was like you. That's sad but you can't get them anymore, they apologize about that and probably change how it work now

[crimson palm]

There’s literally no reason. The claim needed to be temporary and there’s literally no reason they couldn’t have just added it to my account without me needing to press a button.

[jolly leaf]

I don't think it was intended tho. If they apologize it's probably because it wasn't intended and they couldn't give the reward back

[crimson palm]

They can though. When I logged on and was too late to claim it my account had an notification that was unremovable that was for claiming the rewards,

There’s some record of the people who achieved it there’s no reason they couldn’t give it out

[jolly leaf]

They didn't let hundred of player lose their Season reward for fun. There is probably a server side or code issues that make it impossible for them to give the reward.

[crimson palm]

Can players see the ranks they achieved in previous seasons?

[jolly leaf]

I'm not sure, I think so

[crimson palm]

Then they know. That I earned it. Why can’t they give m the reward.

[jolly leaf]

I'm not a dev mate, if you want to have an answer then #discord-help

[crimson palm]

Nah they just say the same things you did.

[uneven thunder]

Remove Dagger Fighter Please

[jolly leaf]

Revert the Weapon mastery. Right now Fighter is a better rogue and a better ranger

[uneven thunder]

Dagger fighter was still good with weapon mastery -10 phy bonus. More nerf

[jolly leaf]

Imo they should nerf it more yes, but i'm not sure it would be playable at all. And it's will probably make it even less worth for other weapon. Someone said that ealrier and it's very smart imo #game-discussion message

[brazen garden]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569157/arena-betting-and-setup
Arena Spectator Gambling, along with bonus spectator actions

[brave wigeon]

Waiting in crypts 13 minutes for inferno to find the boss you are looking to fight isn't there again is pretty bad. This drags your gameplay down.

[median mural]

Kill the boss that is there. You will eventually clear the quests by playing normally the intended way

[jolly leaf]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons Rogue rework to replace Landmine. Read the comment to see how Hide should work with Poison rogue

[raven rune]

they seriously need to remove the frost effect on the ice map its actually ridiculous

[reef quartz]

I agree a bit. The slow effect is incredibly strong with even one hit. I think they should either reduce the effect by half or simply prevent it from stacking.

[tough flame]

holy bolt please... :(

[queen igloo]

When in Warlock's Blood Pact, outgoing VOIP should be pitched down -25% to emulate a demon voice.

[eternal fable]

Why can people phase through SOLID doors when they get there at a certain point? The hitbox is physically in front of them and POOF they phase through solid fucking objects

[queen igloo]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569195/warlock-immortal-lament-tweaks

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569196/warlock-infernal-pledge-tweaks

[eternal fable]

So why does warlock Hydra just get to pressure for free, nonstop, no cost? Health cost means nothing if they instaheal to full.

Make warlock spells cost recoverable health, make the only health they can heal recoverable health, and make it so they can heal all of the damage their spells deal. At least this way, if i CHAIN LIGHTNING THE GUY he cant just heal all the damage back without health supplies. This is absurd.

[pale dawn]

simple solution would be to not be able to heal from hydra with curses

[silent fern]

A room people can load into, to test damage numbers, with an AI to learn how to dodge all the different enemies without risking gear

[pale dawn]

i wish they would focus the most on polishing the game at the moment, there a bit too many things that just cuts the fun out of it

[elder sigil]

There should be more fire in inferno, like have fire or lava on the floor instead of blood, its kind of weird when the maps name is INFERNO but the only fire you see is on torches

[foggy sun]

MORE EMOTE SLOTS

[civic terrace]

Is it intentional for Skeleton mages (out of combat) to protection bubble monsters that im in combat with? I just died to a nightmare death skull because it got bubbled at 1 hp and the skeleton mage was through a door

[pale dawn]

I think its a bug because I've witnessed the same thing and the mage didn't even move, sometimes the bubble doesn't show up but you hear the sound.

[fallow scaffold]

i know how to solve ruins leave it as is hell revert it back so you can get even higher by more classes then add a full ass dragon that comes down a fries anybody above ground level

[jolly leaf]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/564808/rework-of-warlocks-healing-mechanic that's exactly the suggestions I made

[jolly leaf]

Don't hesitate to upvote it and send it when you see someone asking for a warlock nerf

[rain rune]

druid pig transformation that lets you shit all over the floor which slows you down if you step into it

[subtle blade]

Add roll backs on games with cheaters.

[smoky ledge]

Druid transformations are a big problem of the game rn. That gameplay is imo toxic and not fun to play against.

I would love to see, that if you pick that insta shapeshift perk, they would be limited to certain amount of uses before campfire refill.

It would limit that toxic gameplay and still keeps the class viable.

[fast maple]

i want to suggest that druid be a viable class, cheers.

[smoky ledge]

Is it not?

[fast maple]

pritty weak

[fast maple]

Animal forms deal very weak damage. I do more damage with a bardiche on a warlock in starter gear compared to using agility for panther form or strength for bear form. I'm not talking about a crazy gamer build, just a decent amount of strength to deal a little more damage in bear form compared to starter gear warlock which hits faster than bear. There is no useful scaling on any spells either, despite having many perks that provide magic power, only one spell scales from it. Druids are outclassed by all other classes in specific roles, making them a noob of all trades, good at none—except for running away. and having sustain which is pritty cool i think. treant nerfed up the bum, spell charge reduced from 3-2 Lol. was actually 4 but the treant often need to be ressumoned! he gets stuck agro on a mimic or something stupid a lot of the time, or stuck on terrain or too slow have to resummon, now u get one shot, one moment onie opportunity dont miss ur chance to summon him correctly. but maybe im dumb, but panther so weak, bear so so so slow, and most spells suk... so mostly playing as human form with spear. better off playing fighter then, or something like that, warlock because has sustain still like druid tho and magical spells i guess. but idk, i am dumb and always wrong tho

What's the strength of a druid for you? The instant shapeshift? Does it create an annoying hitbox or something? I'd be happy to forgo that if the shapeshifts had some actual power. As someone suggested, changing from instant shapeshift to reducing shapeshift time might be an option, but that would be a waste of a perk slot. It would have to be a blanket reduction in shapeshift time because it wouldn't be worth a perk slot for me. The forms are either slow, can't transform most of the time, or die in one hit while dealing minimal damage like a 30-damage headshot in panther form.

Sorry if this isn't well thought out; I'm sick and tired right now.

[midnight whale]

stop mobs from standing in doorways when no longer aggro to the person who put it there, makes no sense that you just go to open a door and oops, you cant move through now.

[smoky ledge]

I see your point and i get it. The problem i have is, that nomatter what i do, i can not run from druid, if he want to chase me and i almost can npt catch it, when he does not want to.

So the whole gameplay shrinks to a war of atritipn where he slowly drains my resources when his are untouched.

Amd if i get an upper hand, he vanishes. If he gets an upper hand and i want to reset, i cant, because he can catch up with me.

I hit him, he phantomise, turn into bear, when i try to make distance, he pounces in cat instantly, i try to hit, hes bear again, or he run as a mouse.. etc etc.. Its just annoying that they can do that indefinitelly. Thats why limiting number of shapeshift uses whem using the insta perk would limit this.

[fast maple]

I think that's a good point, I am too lazy to constantly shape-shifting like that. A limit sounds 👍

[fast maple]

oh i also just want to say though before i forget, the shape shift is very janky though, and he must be lucky to be able to consistently do it when he needs, something i've seen other players reccomend to others is that to stand on them, because it prevents them from transforming, if you havent tried it already that is in the mean time

[smoky ledge]

I will have to try it.. 😄

[fast maple]

goods lucks i hope it works for u

[onyx cliff]

instead of a limit, maybe a cool down. one thing that sucks about wizards is nobody wants to spend half the game sitting down so be good if they can fix that

[fast maple]

well i think by limit, i think that sounded like a cooldown sort of, like only a certain amount of times within a time period, or i had many other ideas how this could work but tricky to type them all down and accurately explain it

one idea is something like charges, or a dynamic casting speed over a short term, say for example after 5 seconds of not shapeshifting its an instant cast, but incrementally the closer you get to that 5 second wait, the cast time is faster for the shapeshift

[smoky ledge]

My first thought was resupply them by campfire, or some form of meditation spell.

[fast maple]

oh i think in that case, little bit too anti-fun, but we want to prevent spamming it, i think one of these cooldown things would work for that

[smoky ledge]

But druids were always pain to balance in every game. In actuall D&D (like Dungeons and Dragons) it was also painfull process and in other games, it struggles too

[fast maple]

oh also depending on what class u are, and what form the druid is in at the time, u should normally defeat him as a melee class if he is not bear anyway and u stand right on him as a bear, i think what i heard many say is how druid cant go toe to toe against any of the other melee classes usually, i just say what other people say because i dont think my actual experience is too relevant cos im too noob

[onyx cliff]

yes, avoid campfire time. something like, after 3 fast transformations, you will transform slow for 30 seconds or a minute.
Maybe there could be HP penalty instead, after some transformations, it takes a toll on the druid and saps his life to continue. Like kassadin in LoL, can keep casting R at higher and higher mana cost.

[fast maple]

yeah like the kassadin one, my favourite idea is the dynamic cast time/cooldown thingy 🙂 🙂 🙂
but obviously not 5 seconds, just an example

[smoky ledge]

Oooh... having like 5 stacks of transformations made as a buff that would recharge over time.

Sounds good actually

[onyx cliff]

yeah so you can use 5 and they slowly regenerate.

and if you struggle sometimes transforming, it can help to jump before you transform in the druid, gives a bit more space for the new animal shape.

[fast maple]

yah dats wat i mean with charges

[livid olive]

Add a rock, just a rock that can be picked up. Is it useful? No, not even in the slightest. But you have a rock the others don't.

[pale dawn]

Why not make it to distract goblins and kobolds by throwing it, but only them they are dumb anyway

[hushed surge]

How about changing the mob density on frost caverns for solos its kinda way too high.

[hidden hemlock]

Lobbies should automatically start once that map rotation ends. If players can't que up for that lobby any more just start the run

[jolly leaf]

The game is balanced for Trio and they don't plan to balance Solo or Duo at all

@hidden hemlock A new matchmaking system should be released within the next few week. It should change a lot of thing and fix that kind of issues

[hushed surge]

Ahh that makes sense, thank you.

[dusk fern]

If that's the case then surely there shouldn't be a timed map rotation? At the very least we should be able to pick what maps we want to run.

[brave quiver]

nah

[jolly leaf]

Unfortunately we don't have enough player to do a "Pick the map we wan't" matchmaking system. It would split the playerbase too msch and make lobby totally empty. At least that's true with the actual matchmaking system (It's complex but there is a reason why they can't do it now even with the actual player base) but if the new system work how I think it will then we may be able to choose maps or have a reduced timer before rotation

[lapis ember]

Paladin.

[jolly leaf]

Planned but not soon

[lapis ember]

Paladin now.

[jolly leaf]

Play Cleric then, closest thing to Paladin

[lapis ember]

Cleric != Paladin. Need Paladin. Give smite to Paladin. Cleric now actual Cleric. Paladin more weapons. Greatsword, Great Idea.

[jolly leaf]

Great Idea but not planned for now. Sorcerer and Monk before Paladin (That's what planned by the dev)

[lapis ember]

Sorc good. Wizard actual identity. Monk interesting. Hard to balance. Paladin bring balance. And Retribution. Unholy Acts in dungeons. Paladin must Purify. !

[jolly leaf]

Sorcerer should be release next season (hopefully with the wipe, but probably more within the season)

[whole hull]

Quest Progression Idea:
Problem: Everyone dislikes quests in some way, mostly because they have to be repeated, each and every one, by each character created

Solution 1: (more QoL than a overall solution)

• Most quests each week come in sets of 3. We could maybe make the first 2 of each group shared between characters, while still requiring the (Main) 3rd quest in the group to be completed by each character created.

Solution 2: (My fav)

• Do away with individual character quests, or severely cut down on them. Or maybe nothing at all
• Untie Merchant item availability from merchant reputation, and only let reputation reflect pricing discounts, sell price boosts, and roll modifiers
• Add Community Wide quests for each merchant, that when completed, would unlock various gear tiers for that merchant for the entire community. This could replace or supplement the current quest system, while also giving the community something to talk about, as well as provide unique advertising opportunities as to where the current state of the game is.

My group and I love Dark & Darker and the Ironmace team and can't wait to see what you have in store for us yet!

[elfin vale]

buff rogue lol

[deep lily]

Please consider giving rangers a quiver that can carry 3-4 stacks of arrows, the only class that needs to sacrifice a lot of inventory space to function well

[jolly leaf]

That's planned, but not a priority. Then need to fix the code of the inventory system before adding backpack and quiver

[granite plinth]

Hot. Upvoted.

[finite dagger]

their code is terrible, the game performance is terrible, the devs are incompetent

[jolly leaf]

[foggy sun]

Bard needs new skills, ten spell is the only thing runnable on him right now. Barbarian needs new perks because axe perks are so meta that unless you spend a fortune on a new build, it won't work. Warlock needs magic healing nerfs, his self sustain is actually insane. After fighters' new buff, ranger is now irrelevant (the fighter can just run a long bow with no dmg nerfs), And druids movement is comparable to rogue in the old days of ruins. He can just jump whole modules in seconds, go through doors without opening them, and he has better movement and evasive ability than the rogue. Long story short, they need to make sure the old classes are not getting left behind in the content department

[foggy sun]

Quivers are in the works already

[red kite]

Make affinity account-wide and have the option to skip quests already completed on another character for no reward

[elfin vale]

awesome suggestion bro keep up the great work

[zenith wolf]

What if Druid had a utility spell like Druidcraft (Tier 1) that could toggle switches and torches? It could provide some interesting utility to the class.

[jolly leaf]

This -> https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem Would be awesome to have new things to do in the dungeon next season

[median mural]

This is supposedly what the 2 extra inventory slots is for. A quiver and another 'bag category specific' type slot

[uneven rain]

skill issue TBH

[short parrot]

Any chance there's plans to ad a server for the African region? South African players are having to play with a handicap of 150-200ms ping with no alternative and its not a great experience

[uneven rain]

Druid needs some sort of scaling.... The only gear worth buying on druid is dex/action speed so you can stab with a spear faster. Animal forms have become for movement only, which leaves the class feeling very stale. Sure, exceptional druids can outplay other classes, but it feels like there is a lack of class identity for druid. Shapeshifting scaling is an absolute joke now, cant catch warlocks in panther form anyways. Without PCJ we arent even that mobile. We are just spear stabby boys. Clerics heal better and fighters stab better, we are left as a low tier, kind of zoning support class.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568088/make-druid-playable-again

[jolly leaf]

Imo druid should have a Shapeshift that make his spell scale or have a better base effect. Like an Owlkin form from WoW

[uneven rain]

especially for players in under 25 GS lobbies, panther is a joke now. I literally do double damage as a chicken than i do as a panther. How does that even make sense. More damage to punch someone in the head. And without panther chicken jumping, we have a really low MS so we are actually pretty slow. I can only win fights by zoning really well and thats going to be rough on new players especially

im not saying we didnt need a nerf, or that the zoning playstyle isnt effective, but it would be nice to at least have the option to build shapeshifting again and not have it be trolling

[jolly leaf]

Maybe the different form should have more base damage but less scaling. So it's better with low gear and not broken with full agi build

[uneven rain]

higher base shapeshifting damage, lower scaling. NGL the 40 agi panther builds doing almost 200 dummy damage is obviously too strong... but these nerfs have made forms basically useless and that gives me the sads

[jolly leaf]

In what way? What nerf did what to the different forms?

[uneven rain]

panther base damage and scaling and bear scaling. Bear just sucks anyways and is super situational and the damage it was doing needed a nerfd

panther did like 25 base damage in white kit, now does like 17 or 18 i believe

[jolly leaf]

Yeah ok I remember that they nerfed both for phanter but it feel like scaling are still kinda op. And I don't see what could be done for bear, imo the move speed penalty is too high

[nocturne shadow]

Yeah I noticed a lot of skills and perks feel like auto-includes. Thoughts on increasing spell memory and or making more things passive? Even changing the structure of the skills/perks to make things automatically unlock at certain levels. That way perk choices will actually matter. I feel like a lot of the time I’m really only getting to customize with one out of the 4.

[distant solar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1ebhiwi/open_letter_design_document_to_ironmace_community/

I've created a small project to support the game's continued success. Thanks for reading!

[static gazelle]

Wish we could get other plate armor choices when it comes to Copperlight, Cobalt, and Rubysilver, Gold, and Frostlight this isn't me wanting to have the best of the best options just I like wearing other helmets than the ones there, same with the Cuirasses. also plz let fighter wear champion armor let me have the drip

[granite plinth]

fix your ladders

[dusty wagon]

Buff HR ice abyss loot its literally normals crypts tier

[jolly leaf]

The map might have less Lion's head/Gold chest than Inferno indeed

Actually not really, seem to have one less chest than Inferno. And it's the same drop table

[dusty wagon]

ay maybe very bad luck consistently then ig, or maybe because mobs take longer to kill it seems like less loot

[hushed surge]

skill issue tbh

[weary oar]

Bring back 24-124 Druids ability to play the game in a way that shape shifts are viable for combat

[karmic fractal]

use white weapons - theres your secret

[weary oar]

Ah yes let me just wield a spear in bear form… I said shapeshifts my guy

[karmic fractal]

If i have to spell it out... use white weapons so that you can wear blues and purples everywhere else to juice your str or agi.

[weary oar]

Brother it isn’t worth it still I can land all my shots and dodge near perfect and a Druid with a spear in 90% of the cases where he can hit his shots will win

[karmic fractal]

That sounds like a you problem, respectfully. Druid is probably better in the 124 bracket than they are anywhere else, because you scale with stats better than anyone else, and dont care about your weapons almost at all

weapons are like 3x as expensive in terms of gearscore as other pieces. Druids ability to stat stack and still get good damage out of animal forms is something nobody else can do

[ionic delta]

Please change high roller back to skill based matchmaking and remove the 100 gold fee

[chrome dragon]

I think they should replace the little jumps up and down onto the wyvern stage with just a ramp or staircase.

[unique pulsar]

I think they should fix eu servers🥲

[summer locust]

Remove melee magical damage = balance

[clear compass]

Would love a 5v5 or 10v10 battlegrounds capture the flag.

[jolly leaf]

Maybe with the Arena

[hot hemlock]

Tfw it was never "skill" based matchmaking

[rose flume]

I SUGGEST BANNING EVERYONE WHO PLAYS BARD

[dusk fern]

I would love a PvE mode. Even if I can only use the gear I earn there in PvE.

[ember swan]

Add a gear score back to HR? 299 seemed decent honestly.

[analog garden]

Can you add an a channel in the discord to add a temporary voice channel?

[modern mango]

Lute gear score increase is needed to preserve the intent of sub 25 lobbies. Bards can currently bring epic quality lutes into sub-25 gearscore lobbies and deal well over 100 damage on headshot.

[jovial swan]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569550/ambush-is-overcentralizing-and-problematic

[cedar totem]

Nah dude losing your whole kit to void because of shitty jump momentum mechanics and lag is fun and rewarding

[glossy tapir]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569559/updated-spells-and-perks-my-vision

[arctic zodiac]

Weapon reach must be visible on weapon's stat.

[cedar breach]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569569/add-undeaddemonbeast-bonus-damage-as-a-random-attribute

my thought would be if they added craftable weapons that needed goblin ears/bones/skulls that add damage bonuses for different mobs

[uneven rain]

this is a ridiculously bad take lmao

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/568088/make-druid-playable-again

druid sucks, lets fix it.

https://youtube.com/shorts/YEaOcat97iE?si=H3WFPDGoCZcdDsTx

[karmic fractal]

Very insightful yes, thank you

[uneven rain]

lol my brother, if you think panther damage at like 40 per hit, while being slow af, is poor scaling..... i dont know what to tell you lol. Shapeshifting is dead and no proper druid is building for bear/panther anymore lol

[stoic pagoda]

its all about scaling the rat damage 15 per hit yessir

[modern mango]

Door to the gold room should not open for you if you did not deal the killing blow to either troll or cyclops. The room should be a reward for those who actually engage with the content.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569591/the-door-to-the-gold-room-on-gc-should-only-be-interactable-by-people-who-landed

[karmic fractal]

He said "druid is weak in the 25-124 bracket. I pointed out that that is druids best bracket, because even in the 600 gs bracket, your scaling doesn't get much better and everyone elses is insane. So yes, i stand by my statement. That doesn't mean druid is op or above average.

Context is important, and "lol bad take" means nothing

[ionic delta]

ok so what was last season

[dusk fern]

Have dev's said anything about adding dwarves?

[jolly leaf]

Yes. They want to add it but it's complex. They're teared between making the dwarf or other type of race like that someday and removing stat on skin to make it more fair to people who can't have skin that have specific stat anymore. Because if they remove stat they can't add Dwarves as it would have a huge advantage due to the smaller size/hitbox

[dusk fern]

That makes sense. Dwarves could just have a slower movement speed to compensate.

[uneven rain]

im answering you. 125 is arguably the bracket where druid is weakest. Your forms do considerably less damage than any other weapon attack at that level. You dont have enough dex to make spear really fly. Cant keep up with anyone building MS even in panther.

above 300 GS is where druid shines, but 125 and under 25 he is easily bottom tier

[zealous cipher]

Make a cosmetic skin that gives luck. That would be cool.

[jolly leaf]

Why not but what's the negative effect?

[tawny python]

i need 12 arrow on the chest with to kill figther with a grey longbow

[jolly leaf]

Yes, Ranger is broken! (No)

[shell robin]

there's brackets for 300gs?

[jolly leaf]

Nop

[obsidian monolith]

Add storage. jewelry box + med storage + quest item storage

[fossil helm]

Add one more free character slot, allow players to be able to have a main class and be able to playtest others, 2 slots is reasonable

[karmic fractal]

buy the game

[jolly leaf]

^

[fossil helm]

i did, still feel like allowing new players to have 2 toons to expirament is reasonable

[karmic fractal]

giving 90% of your product away for free is also pretty reasonable

[fossil helm]

u can simply disagree, my suggestion is still made

[jolly leaf]

Would have been ok if they didn't had the ability to use gear in normal and partial acces to the marketplace. With more character slot right now people won't buy the game

[fossil helm]

I disagree, adding 1 slot would not deter ppl from buying when there are more than 5 classes

also unless either one of u are devs idrc what u think

[jolly leaf]

You are in #suggestion-discussion where people discuss about suggestion. If you want to make a suggestion you need to go here https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

[fossil helm]

this is a suggestion box, so diagree and move on, ur not changing my mind

discuss and calling someone wrong for their suggestion are not the same, this is not a debate

[jolly leaf]

This channel is made to talk about suggestion. Not make suggestion dev don't read the channel

[jolly leaf]

Well I didn't say your suggestion was just trash. I agree with you but not in the actual context, that's debate. But anyway, have a good day/night

[fossil helm]

thanks for the link btw

[jolly leaf]

[worn canopy]

Search an item on the market by clicking on it instead of punching in every last detail. Or show similar items and their prices under "List an Item" so you don't have to research them at all. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569772/item-search-for-marketplace

[jolly leaf]

I'll upvote but you should use the research bar on the suggestion website, pretty sure there is already suggestion for that and they may already have godd amount of suggestion. Might be better to push those one

[worn canopy]

Yeah I saw something similar with 14 upvotes. Thanks for the upvote.

[jolly leaf]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/556098/marketplace-add-search-in-market-button This one i guess

[vestal cloud]

please devs rogue landmine is ruining the fun of this game for even the rogues it isnt fun to play against the fact that they have silent footsteps and true invis is insanley op it needs to be nerfed i know people who have quit this wipe mainly because of the rogue issue right now i know it might be hard to rework rn bt just remove creep atleast they need to have some type of audio q something to counter play them

[jolly leaf]

Imo the issues is not the creep or true invis, it's the fact they can use that to insta kill you. There is this really good suggestion to add a new build to rogue and replace landmine (without removing Hide) https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons Look at the comment too and upvote if you like

[vestal cloud]

bro they arent reworking rogue rn yes its a good suggestion but removing creep is a good thing too do while they work on it

[jolly leaf]

They already tried removing creep and they add it back. If they remove creep imo it will be because of a Rogue rework not just only this particular perk. And who know, a lot of people complain about rogue lately maybe they'll think about reworking the Rogue and I would love it to be like that suggestion so I push it when I see someone complaining about rogue

[rustic zealot]

Hi,

Please make a new discord channel named #RecentlySlain

This is where players will come to tell you what is wrong with your game immediately after being killed in-game.

[cloud briar]

Make the fighter's Swift perk lock you to only wearing plate armor (capes are an exception).

Everyone just runs loose trousers and lightfoot boots because they negate the MS losses so easily, but this doesn't fit thematically.
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569785/make-fighters-swift-perk-lock-you-to-only-plate-armor

In addition, armor values should probably be adjusted to move more armor from your chest, head, and hand slots to the legs and feet slots, since plate legs and plate boots have a worse armor rating to MS ratio comparatively.

[jolly leaf]

That's a good idea

[cloud briar]

TY. I honestly wouldnt mind if they had to buff Swift more to make this change work

[somber elk]

No Lanter nerf yet

[shell robin]

would it be worth it then? plate boots are so bad and loud

[jolly leaf]

Well they give strengh is quite a good stat

[shell robin]

ye but then you're still pretty slow. I think depending on what type of plate gear you're wearing ig it would depnd

[cloud briar]

I think it would be worth it since your getting up to +10 movespeed from the perk while getting to go maximum defenses, but I wouldnt be suprised if it still proved unoptimal in this movement speed meta. you are also absolutely right that plate boots are still extremely bad and need a buff in their own right

[shell robin]

yeah, might be worth it if you use like falchion and shield, but I think you would get more ms out of loose trousers and lightfoot boots

[cloud briar]

i think maybe increasing their AR slightly and bumping them up to 3 MS would put them in a better spot

the sound they make alone is a huge downside thats hard to evaluate, so stat wise they should be stronger compared to other boots

also the fact that boots are your only slot you can get ms from, while you can still easily get armor from other slots, incentivizes running speed boots and getting your pdr elsewere

[cloud briar]

like I said, if it still proved to not be viable, I wouldnt mind them buffing swift/plate even more to help bring back that armored tank fantasy

[shell robin]

right, I think they would have to buff plate boots, or make some other kind of boots that are also plate. or maybe they could make a perk that makes it so when you're wearing all plate armor you get increased defense. That way you can run light gauntlets and chapel de fer

[cloud briar]

platepants could also use a buff, as well as more plate options in the legs slot

[shell robin]

you think plate pants are underwhelming?

[cloud briar]

Yeah, when you look at the armor/ms they give, they're very weak compared to other slots and even other leggings. at legendary rarity they give about 5 armor per point of ms you're losing, where as most other pants are giving 7 or more.

this ratio only gets worse at lower rarities, and most players arent running all legendaries

leather chausses suprisingly have one of the best armor ratios, giving over 9 per ms at legendary rank

[jolly leaf]

Maybe like glove a Light and Heavy plate pants could be cool

[cloud briar]

plate leggings would need to give 18 more armor to be on par with most other leggings

[cloud briar]

yeah definetely, the more unique and interesting options the better

[graceful rampart]

it is no where a game that has a class named fighter can 3 tap you with ranged weapon and whenever he's in bad position he sprints/secondwind. Class identity please or change class names

[cloud briar]

dark leather leggings also need a buff for them to ever be worth running, since leather leggings can give you close to the same armor and MR (through the will it gives) while also giving you much more ms and the other benefits of will, like buff/debuff durations and magic power bonuses which are useful for tank warlock and cleric

[cloud briar]

ironically enough, composite bow fighter is actually one of its strongest builds in dnd

doesnt mean its healthy for this game tho

[graceful rampart]

Sometimes, i cant see how balance team see their game.I hope they p^lay it at least ...

[jolly leaf]

Well there is no real balance team they talked about it in the last Q&A and it seem that for the past year balancing was really chaotic due to the fact the no one really had the lead or any experience in balancing a game. They were just testing the idea of someone on day, then the idea of someone else the other. They said that they've fight a lot about balançing (and that explain why some change keep being remove and added back). They've learned from there mistake and no I think only Terrence is in charge on balancing. And yes they're playing the game. IM is a quite small team

[graceful rampart]

im amazed of that fact that this game has a small group of people on it but it is disturbing to know such game genre has no fixed/experienced balancing team.
This game by nature is heavily reliant to balance that is not easy to maintain by just passion i hope it'll change in the future, i hope they dedicate a good team to work on it, at least it doesnt seem like chaos if it's just counted people are on it ..

[jolly leaf]

Well they have a really weird history. They're litteraly a bunch of dev that quit an other game compagny to make this game. They've start with less than 20 people and almost only dev as i'm aware. They started hiring more people to help them where they lack experience like 6 month ago and most of those people only start to really work as fully autonomous part of the team

[cloud briar]

They should add more dynamic melee and movement skills to the game. Rangers have things like Quickshot and Multishot, which have unique animations and fundamentally change your bow attacks.

All melee classes usually get is an additional effect applied to their next melee hit, ex: victory strike, blow of corruption, Achilles strike, rupture, etc. The only comparable option for melee attacks is shield bash, which needs some changes of its own to be more effective.

Things like a whirlwind attack for barbarian, where they extend their weapon and spin 2 or more times. Or a charge skill for fighter, that gives them increased movespeed but limited turning abilities during its duration, while also letting them extend their weapon forward for a lancing attack if using a pole-arm. In addition, buff shield bash so your shield actively blocks during the animation, and make its damage scale with the base armor of your shield instead of just being a flat 25.
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569801/make-melee-skills-more-dynamic

[dense stream]

Parkour course in all the lobbies

[odd nymph]

Can you add a right-click button to search for this item in the market, so that everyone can quickly view the item price in the market and adjust it accordingly, instead of repeatedly clicking on the item information to filter through the listings?

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569803/add-a-quick-button-to-search-for-item-in-market

[cedar breach]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569569/add-undeaddemonbeast-bonus-damage-as-a-random-attribute
what yall think?

[jolly leaf]

Someone made the exact same suggestions a few hours ago and -> #suggestion-discussion message

You should upvote that one instead https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/556098/marketplace-add-search-in-market-button

[worldly storm]

Please for the love of god let us choose the map we wanna play on the player base is large enough to be able to do it again Im so tired of wait for the map I wanna play it’s horrible

[jolly leaf]

Well i'm not sure the player base is big enough. Almost certain it's not. But a new matchmaking system should be released within the few next week and it might fix that. They said it should come out very soon but didn't talked much about what it'll change. Based on the little we know it might help about your issues tho

[twin frigate]

Could we get a training room added? Something where we can spawn different enimies and bosses for us to practice learning the boss fights and mob attack patterns.

The new player initial experience is already kinda rough, and this would allow those that haven't been playing long a risk free way to engage with the PVE content and learn how to clear that aspect of the game.

Also, being able to practice boss fights would be extremely helpful, especially for those crypt bosses. It's already difficult for new players and even some more experienced players to learn these bosses, and given the fact that you have to play through the first floor of crypts, then make it to inferno, just for a 1/3 chance to engage with the boss you're actually trying to learn is a little rough.

[solid fable]

Toggle input in options, like toggle crouch.

[jolly leaf]

Well we should have a player hub where your can try your stuff on dummy and other player without risking it. But I don't think it'll allow to train mob and boss. The game is said to be rough and unfogiving. It's part of the experience to struggle learning boss and monster

[jolly leaf]

But yes we could have little change to help, like knowing in advance which boss will be in Inferno (Like in the lobby before joining crypt, a little icon to say which boss you'll find)

[twin frigate]

The addition of Arena will already act as an additional training ground for the other core aspect of the game, PVP.

I don't find it unreasonable to add something for players to train on the PVE aspect of the game. And considering the fact that actively creating more seamless content engagement options for the community is crucial for player retainment. This would be important for reducing attrition, and as we all know, game health is tied to player count, and without new player retention, the game will die.

I believe tarkov is a good example here as well, there's many reasons why, but it's good to note that more people are actually playing the PVE tarkov right now rather than standard.

All in all, I'm just saying it would be a worthwhile addition.

[uneven rain]

these freshies will never understand the first playtest where there was no google info, and one pve hit meant death. Those were the days

[jolly leaf]

There is a middle path between that and what he want but yeah I feel you I come from the beginning of World of Warcraft where Judgehype and other wiki wasn't thing and you had to learn everything by yourself and speaking/playing with others.

@twin frigate I really understand you about the retention part but imo the game was meant to be hard an unfogiving, i'm not against making thing a bit more welcoming or easier bit all the question is "Where do you stop at making the game easier". Imo a Sandbox mode where you can summon boss won't make a lot of sense in DnD first of all, it will reduce your play time if you don't have to struggle a bit learning PvE. I agree things could be done but imo not that. Imo what should be done to retain PvE people would be adding more interesting PvE content, like in this suggestions : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/554235/dark-and-darkers-content-problem

[remote whale]

bulk buying potions/bandages should be a thing rather than clicking the two buttons 10 times

[worn lava]

when they change the gathering hall to be a physical place people go to to hang out and find groups i believe they could also add in a magic summoning room that's big enough to have a magic summoning circle in its own spot for each monster in the game summoning a monster to fight and train on and learn mechanics if they don't do this they could always add it in the future more ideas more changes and things they can add it will only take longer to actually add it in the game

[twin frigate]

I'm not advocating for additional solely PvE content or a PvE mode for that matter. In fact, I don't think this game currently has enough content to even warrant a PvE mode.

I started playing during the very first play test on steam, and I've been playing ever since. The mystique and allure that drove us in during the earliest days was solely due to it being something new and different in the extraction genre. We shouldn't apply the same model of thought to the same product at this point, otherwise you'll fall into the same trap tarkov fell into with its own issues with gaining and retaining new players.

Saying "git gud" and "I had to so should you", only serves to further alienate newer players.

What I'm suggesting isn't impractical, or even impossible, it wouldn't even change much other than give people more experience with PvE, as when it comes time to actually try a run on their own, they still have PvP to contend with.

[remote whale]

new spell for bard, summon a large rat temporary by playing the flute

[gloomy storm]

can we get some sort of testing area outside of the spawn area / ingame dummies. like an area we can access from the waiting table and make it so we can see our stash from this area and swap out gear for testing

[meager jasper]

lol get rekt rogue

[jolly leaf]

For all the people who are happy about this rogue nerf. Yes it nerf the rogue issue but no it's not a good nerf. The problem is not Hide or Creep, it's the landmine mechanics and that's untouched. Yes rogue will pretty much become useless now (especially the pickpocket build), but that's until the next time he get buffed. We need landmine rogue to be reworked by something like this -> https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/563627/rogue-rework-suggestion-master-of-poisons (Read the comment too and upvote if you like the idea )

[remote whale]

Throwable oil jars or any elements

[lusty stream]

Removing rogue's true stealth and making creep not silent is a direct nerf to stealthy gameplay and pickpocketing, which nerfing that playstyle, and thereby discouraging that playstyle is then encouragin the opposite playstyle, the landmine playstyle, because moving around is nerfed through these changes, and sitting by a door is kept the same. I think most people would agree that the part of rogue that's been an issue is the landmine rogue, not the pickpocket sneaking around rogue.

[sonic oracle]

What if they just removed Ambush or made it like 15-20% speed boost with no damage buff? Keeping pickpocket builds alive while nerfing damage invis builds.

[jolly leaf]

#suggestion-discussion message I talked about that just a few message ago

[meager jasper]

No. The issue is that a landmine rogue could walk up to you completely invisibly and silently. This is a nerf to landmine and you're coping if you think it isn't.

But for what it's worth I think the playstyle should be completely removed. I don't think it has a place in the game. It's completely anti-fun for everyone who isn't a rogue.

[glossy arch]

Make it so when you click on an item to sell it automatically searches the rarity and rolls.

[meager jasper]

Rogue should be where all the fast duelist/knife fighting pvp playstyles go. Slayer should never have been a fighter perk, it should be a downsideless perk for rogue.

It's real dumb that the fighter is currently just the better fighter with rogue's weapons.

[brazen token]

Make barbarian armor, particularly chest armor, lighter. A dedicated melee class should be able to wear their class-specific gear without hating themselves, the same way other classes can do so and not hate themselves. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569863/make-barbarianspecific-armor-lighter

[remote whale]

Add in an engineer class who can scrap gear and trinkets mid match to make items mid game ( scrap axe or blades, throwing blades, a wood/scrap wall that takes time to build and a batiste big damage single shot)

[amber perch]

why do wizards not have magic sword in squire?

[jolly leaf]

Need to do the first Alchemist quest

[amber perch]

ah i see thanks

[slender niche]

Fixing door free-reset/stalemate gameplay forever: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/569870/autoclosing-doors