suggestion-discussion

[limber elbow]

i play so many match and few match see naked player and stab them like 4 time , only lose 20% HP and report can't check they hack or not but im sure naked player sure die after 4 hit or real low after that

[worldly ridge]

from what I’ve heard from other Rangers forceful shot doesn’t really knock back at all

Like it’s so minimal that it’s not worth

[subtle blade]

Can we make it so warlocks need to hit their first swing after popping blow of corruption? Please? Or are we just supposed to never go in melee on a warlock without a shield? or put an actual duration timer on it (preferably less than the current 9 hours)

[simple crescent]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486240/remove-stats-from-cosmetics Remove Stat Changes from Cosmetics! Pls upvote

[sharp plaza]

if they made it so you if you wiff you lose the effect it would change not only warlock but rogue fighter and barb aswell

[subtle blade]

yes, please do that, why not punish poor decision making in attacks?

currently, either you get a shield, for your ungeared runs (hurrdurr btw) or you just straight up never go on a warlock without a shield. Doesn't matter if you've found 8 blues and he's in starter gear, if he lands that hit it's a guaranteed win for him... when using longsword*

[worldly ridge]

Rogue weakpoint/rupture still disappears if you hit a wall or shield

[sharp plaza]

I think the problem with that lies in the fact that the tide of battle would change to easily with one dodge and it would close the class advantage to much and aslong as you dodge the headshot I or don't get parried it shouldn't oneshot

[subtle blade]

so does warlock blow of corruption, so why isn't it as the description says? "next attack"

[subtle blade]

oh, so dodging 3 attacks while landing ones of your own just to them then finally hitting 2 hits and killing is good design?

[sharp plaza]

yeah honestly just space better not every matchup is meant to be on equal footing

[subtle blade]

5 attacks hit vs 2, "space better" Idk if I could agree with that statement when it comes to game design. but yeah...

[worldly ridge]

If you’ve played any other game other than this one you would understand the value of making other players waste cooldowns. All you need to do is wait for them to run out.

[sharp plaza]

it doesn't run out in that match up you either range him down or just be the better player its a class based game other than corruption I think warlock isn't a problem in anyway

[worldly ridge]

BoC doesn’t run out? I’m pretty sure it does.

[sharp plaza]

I don't think so its a one hit like rupture and weakpoint I think it just stays till you smack

[subtle blade]

it runs out, after 12 sec, but not being a problem otherwise? 2 magical healing is all i need to say

[gentle rapids]

Yeah it’s until you hit an enemy or object

[prime geode]

BoC expires over a time period if you dont attack, and if you hit a wall or shield it will be consumed.

[gentle rapids]

Does it have timer? I’ve never had it up for long enough to notice

[sharp plaza]

Im really not seeing the problem then if it runs out theres counterplay right there play off that cooldown if thats the only problem

[prime geode]

its around 15 seconds before it just expires, most the time people will just choose to hit the wall and get the CD to restart if they know someone is kiting away

[worldly ridge]

if they want to hit the wall then you get a free hit in lmao. and you can fight right there.

[gentle rapids]

I did that subconsciously without knowing it had a timer lol

[worldly ridge]

if the cooldown is gone you can fight them

[sharp plaza]

every class I play I get rid of it if its not gonna be used right away I don't like glowing

[prime geode]

if the CD is gone, you have bigger problems. They have pulled the magic out and are going to zone with hellfire and DoTs.

[sharp plaza]

I have yet to ever be killed by a warlock with anything but melee and only died to one wizard this wipe just because a chain

[worldly ridge]

Hellfire is one of the worst spells in the game, and CoP does minimal damage. It's only problem if they build healing.

If you ever die to Hellfire that is genuinely just a skill issue I'm sorry

[prime geode]

Well you are lucky then, I kill players all the time with hellfire. Controlling corners and doorways is just easy kills or zones them away/into you. At which point then BoC and they tend to fold

[rose ledge]

CoP is absolutely nightmarish with the right comp, too. Pop it on your barb with +100 mr and you're insane. And then drop it on a couple enemies, too. just need the gear to support it

[worldly ridge]

It's the slowest and loudest spell in the game. Everyone's movespeed is faster than it. If it's going through a wall you can hear exactly where it is way before it comes out of the wall.

[rose ledge]

But warlock is in a fine position, imo

[sharp plaza]

I think the only time I got hit by it was because I was invis and it was stand my ground and hope it bugs or die either way lmao

[rose ledge]

should also mention ranger absolutely poos on lock

[prime geode]

Sure its slow and loud, that doesnt change the fact that if cast in the right pathing, you are either cutting the fighter/barb from his team OR you have hit someone with it and 60dmg a second tends to crumple people.

ranger is broken sooo the shipt on everyone

[rose ledge]

well, ranger should shit on clothies anyways, despite the fact that yes it is broken

[prime geode]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/485794/bows-should-not-slow-on-hit

[blissful birch]

has it ever been suggested to add ores to the ruin map ?

[sharp plaza]

anyways putting this back out there we need some time of Fist type weapon https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486208/fist-type-weapon

[prime geode]

Fist weaps will come with the monk class eventually

[worldly ridge]

also the same amount of damage you can do with Hellfire can easily be done with one headshot from a Longbow/Crossbow. Much faster.

[subtle blade]

arent clerics already basically monks?

[slender void]

We really need to have shop keepers have a grey version of armor/weapons at all times. I'm pooling up money that I literally cannot use because I can't get maces, shields or helmets for my Cleric.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486252/grey-item-permanence

[prime geode]

not divine, the melee Ki punchy punchy punchy boys

[ornate snow]

Ranger needs a nerf but what class deserves a buff?

Imo I think wizards need more variety with spells

Or rework barbarian

[slender void]

Speaking of Cleric, we really need to put a healing cooldown for Lesser Heal so people cannot just chug potions and throw healing on their pocket Fighter/Barb like some wannabe pokemon battle.

[ornate snow]

Bard with the no casting spell kinda counters that

[slender void]

And that's coming from a Cleric main. It makes fights so one-sided and uninteresting. Either that or we need more sources of antiheal, Warlock's BoC just ain't enough.

[slender void]

That lasts for 3 seconds and removes a source of damage from the fight. It just becomes another pokemon battle, just without supports now.

[ornate snow]

Hmmmm yea there should be a slight cooldown maybe like a couple seconds

[subtle blade]

ehm, idm that, if they either make judgement castable while moving or give cleric an insta ms ability like most other classes have. They get bullied like crazy by zerging, wizards and rangers atm. And I wouldn't like if they make clerics even worse for solo/fighting... i.e make cleric a slightly more fighting class while pushing them away from full supports.

[slender void]

Making lesser heal less spammable would hardly nerf solo cleric. Solo cleric already has amazing 1v1 potential in melee fights with self buffing, and you aren't exactly spamming the heal during a mid-fight 95% of the time anyways. Again, Cleric main here.

[ornate snow]

Add eldritch blast to lock >>>>

[subtle blade]

again, cleric main here too. No, you dont spam it. And clerics arent bad for 1v1 in melee fights, but they're the only class that has no escape/catch up option. You can use smite to be on equal footing in melee fights w fighters/barbs, or use judgement to punish rangers/wizards who for some reason get close, but the problem is you have to play rock paper scissors with it, it's one or the other. You wont catch any class that doesn't want to engage in a melee confrontation as a cleric (slowest movespeed, slowest attack speed, slowest interaction speed)

[ornate snow]

Buff bind imo that would be better

[slender void]

That's just a melee fight issue for most classes in this game that use armor. That won't change much, but even then, you stiull have ranged options like Judgement and Divine Strike to deal with those classes. Or Bind if you're particularly accurate.

[subtle blade]

Fair enough, 0.75 sec is kinda oof xD

[ornate snow]

Bind them for like 2 sec make it so much worth

But imo give wizard and lock more spells (Ik lock is still in development I just wanna see more for him)

[subtle blade]

Both of those spells are among the shortest range "range abilities" in the game... Judgement 5 m range is a joke xD. A good rogue will take 0 damage from a cleric, no matter how good they are... legit, you can outrun it during the cast time if you pace properly, and using rapier you can outpoke a cleric with your higher ms... Same with bards, and rangers, and wizards, and fighters...

[ornate snow]

I’m pretty sure cleric has more spell options than wizard it’s just clerics spells aren’t as good damage wise more support wise which is unfortunate

[subtle blade]

Clerics arent bad, they're the most valuable class in the game. But it's not a secret that they're not being designed to partake in fights...

[slender void]

Still, spamming healing is not a healthy gameplay mechanic, it just isn't. It's not fun to play and it's not fun to play against, especially with the little-to-no anti heal we have in the game currently.

[ornate snow]

Exactly I just want to see more spellcasting diversity with some of the main spell casting classes like bard’s customization is amazing I want to see stuff like that on wizard and lock

[subtle blade]

I agree, and as I said earlier, yes, feel free to put a cd on it but atleast give them something else they can do then... but Imo I think they should make every class tankier to allow for more "skillful" playing. I don't like the 2-3 tap meta, or dying to a single trap because there's nothing you can do anymore if you get stuck in one (sure that's partially a skill issue, but rubberbanding and traps in doorways/above ground are kind of ruining any outplay there anyways).

[sonic sand]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/475021/rework-items-not-classes

[ornate snow]

Honestly make every fight longer and more survivable as every fight feels like just see who can hit more than twice and die first

[drowsy grotto]

Barb achillies strike nerf or entire rework

[sonic sand]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/474956/gearscore-based-matchmaking-no-more-noob-farming

[worldly ridge]

I think the throwing axes are way more powerful. Seen Barbs one shot with them unironically.

[dull halo]

Game is distance based or it seems to be that way. Wizards can fireball you from infinite distance, same with arcane blast. Rangers have distance and can keep a team back. When both are on a same team, it’s ungodly what they can do. Clerics, even barbarians get shredded by wizards due to lack of magical resistance in the game. If you don’t have distance in your team, yours basically screwed.

[tawdry parcel]

the fact that you as a new player with grey equipment have to deal with purple and blues on the normal howling crypts is just terrible. this is one of the major reasons why people will start leaving. please implement a gear score to limit this differenciation of gear. no point balancing anything will this is going on

[drowsy grotto]

Gearscore wont change much if a player just gets better gear in raid.

[tawdry parcel]

true but at least the gear will be much more balanced. instead of a full blue-purple guy you'll meet greys and one or two green items one blue at most. the balance right now is just terrible and even though we have played every single playtest and love this game we don't see a point continuing like this

[drowsy grotto]

But what if a skilled player purposely goes to low gear score with lvl 15's and slaughteres in goblin caves or something, or if my team brings insane gear and I don't.

And how does it calculate if someone has a purple with only greys after, will I go against purple geared players or low geared players. If it's based on the items what if I just bring an insanely strong one shotting sword and base gear?

[tawdry parcel]

fine by me. it comes down to skill then. right now skill is irrelevant. im met players who can't hit a single swing but once they do they kill me with 1 hit, 2 at most, while i need to hit 7-8 hits. (without a cleric in their team healing them)

[fiery ore]

people with gear score > 100 can only enter HR, people with gear score < 100 can only enter normals - problem solved

[drowsy grotto]

actually nvm that makes sense

[fiery ore]

HR shouldnt be free

[drowsy grotto]

but I think gearscore should only be an attribute on HR

[fiery ore]

that was just example, but something similar could be used

[mystic yoke]

I think gearscore is a baby brain take, do a stash score instead. If you are stacked and chose not to risk anything you should still get matched with squads that are rolling hard (as you could have and chose not to)

[drowsy grotto]

What if I have a full inventory of ruby ingots as a level 9 rogue

[fiery ore]

i think it would be easier to implement score with gear on character than in whole stash, you can have things for different classes in your stash

[mystic yoke]

Then you are doing some weird shit

[drowsy grotto]

Yeah but now you physically can not play the game without getting slapped by insanely geared players

[mystic yoke]

Unless just sell them and buy other gear???????????????????

[junior jacinth]

what about an arena map, team sizes 1v1-2v2-3v3, winning team can revive and loot

[tawdry parcel]

+1

[drowsy grotto]

can't level 9 and can't sell to npcs

[junior jacinth]

??? I've been playing all day on a fresh char and haven't seen a single person wearing more than a blue lol

[tawdry parcel]

then im jealous of your lobbies. not a single lobby of mine has non blue players

[drowsy grotto]

Christ, read upwards instead of just reading something out of context.

[junior jacinth]

lmfao? i did read

[drowsy grotto]

Ok so you can see that it's talking about gear rating instead of the current game, you clearly didn't.

[exotic parrot]

Can they make just grey and white loot buyable from traders and make greens spawn much more frequently in dungeon? It's just a thought because it is very discouraging playing with my buddies who don't play the shit outta this game. They can't ever get gear to survive a raid or get enough coin to buy a kit to run. It'd be nice if they could actually consistently find a green that might not even have an enchantment but at least decent base stats.

[junior jacinth]

the statement i responded to was not about gear rating

[drowsy grotto]

Yeah because you read it out of context, how stupid are you
go up through the chain of replies

[sharp fjord]

I really wish Ironmace would let us save and name custom filter settings. That way, when I'm searching for items, bouncing between each trade chat every couple of minutes, I don't have to reselect 8 things from the filter menus. I could just select my premade custom filter.

[junior jacinth]

bro the amount of salt in your diet is out of control, please touch grass

[drowsy grotto]

(He realised he was wrong so he's throwing random insults)

I don't know what ad hominem means but go nuts whiteboy

[mystic yoke]

So gain a level or learn your lesson and not do really weird shit next wipe. An extreme-case scenario that would never actually happen is a bad example of why a stash score limit would be bad

[junior jacinth]

of course you dont because youre an idiot

[drowsy grotto]

Yeah but similar things can happen, like finding a key on your second run ever
(which happened to me)

[drowsy grotto]

you're*

[gentle rapids]

Bruh

[junior jacinth]

this guy lol

[drowsy grotto]

also stash value doesn't do anything if you have only one set of strong gear and you just go in with it, since your stash value is technically zero.

[mystic yoke]

If you are risking your only set in a drop, I think that's fine?

[drowsy grotto]

No, the issue is then you're being sent to lower geared players because of your zero stash value, your idea only works if it also has gear value to go with it.

[mystic yoke]

Unless you run into another squad doing the exact same thing. Now they have two good sets and you have none

[drowsy grotto]

then it doesn't fix the 'issue'

[mystic yoke]

Running into highly geared players is fine, the only real issue is how consistent it is. That's all we really need to address

[junior jacinth]

lmfao greg is trying to come up with a way to make the game favor players like him. the ones that suck. yes, there should be some manner of separating experienced/inexperienced players, but stash value is not the answer. i can have a friend transfer all my loot off of a char to a mule and voila, my stash value is low. the answer should probably lie in either extraction success, KDA/team KDA, or currently equipped loadout value

[drowsy grotto]

You're stupid, if it was based off statistics on your raids that'd just lead to situations where you lose all your gear and only go against insanely geared players.
Go back to valorant if you want ranked, I just want to keep it as it is.

[junior jacinth]

i also think it's fine to have pubstomping 🤷‍♂️ i couldn't care less what my opponents are in, i like a challenge and i dont mind losing. gear is easily attainable

[tawdry parcel]

too complicated for nothing. it's simple. calculate the equipped item gear score and matchmake with equivalent or +- some percentage

[junior jacinth]

right but what when people queue in all uniques and legendaries only? they just get free lobbies to farm even more?

[granite plinth]

alright bottom line the game is great and growing in the right directions but right now the speeds and time to kills you can achieve have a hard diminishing fun return even on the winning side, and the slow paced charm is lost. if scaling can explode into 1 taps, you are playing an entirely different game with gear

[tawdry parcel]

no, they don't queue until there are players to populate the lobby like in every competitive game

[junior jacinth]

but this isn't a competitive game ;/

[mystic yoke]

I don't really see how a simple value calc of a stash is any more complicated than a value calc of your current gear... honestly I would be fine with no change at all, killing a fully purped out squad is a huge comeup

[tawdry parcel]

since it's high risk, it's competitive

[drowsy grotto]

That's dumb

[junior jacinth]

fully agree. 1 juicer squad can definitely bite off more than they can chew and get swamped for it

[junior jacinth]

dude do you just sit around to call people dumb/stupid? is that all you have to contribute? contribute or fuck off you grub

[tawdry parcel]

stash doesn't matter. i don't care what kind of items you have stored, i care what you wear when you're fighting me and things to be balanced

[drowsy grotto]

You have a brain injury, I'm saying the idea is dumb.
Again, please learn to read in general.

Also saying a game is competitive is saying all players are put onto an equal footing, it's a test of skill. This game technically isn't since you could go against an entire lobby of ruby silver wearing fighters hypothetically.

[exotic parrot]

Holy crap someone understands, nobody wants to say it because theirs always someone who says "Get Gud". The game's playerbase will eventually tank because there is no fun to be had starting off in the game unless you're cracked as hell at the game, and even then you'll have to play like a little bi*** just to scrape up some gear.

[mystic yoke]

I'm pretty bad and seem to do just fine building a stash. The game has tons of learning curve, if you are still taking damage from mobs at all then you have not really learned how to play yet, just keep trying it gets better.

[marsh musk]

Please let us share items between characters!!!

[junior jacinth]

this x10

[tawdry parcel]

see now you're just lucky. me and my party are more than good with a thousand hours on mordhau and a bit more on tarkov. we know how to move, we know how to fight. yet, as i said, if you need 10 hits on someone and he only needs 1-2 there is no skill there

[exotic parrot]

Yo, I play HR goblin caves when I solo, I don't get hit by PvE. Thanks for assuming everyone who has a complaint about gear scaling is trash.

[drowsy grotto]

777

[junior jacinth]

i hear you man and it doesn't feel great to get stomped by some juicer squad, but i think there's a bigger discrepancy around class balancing than there is around gear balancing. aside from named items, gear HELPS get kills but it isn't the sole deciding factor in most cases

[mystic yoke]

Well you are saying the game is too hard to build stash unless you are cracked, and I know for a fact I'm bad and can still build a stash really easily. So either you are absurdly unlucky or even worse than me lol

[feral jay]

Rangers shouldn't default spawn with traps actually an instant death sentance or giga spacing for a ranger they should need to buy them from merchants to use

[exotic parrot]

I think both are equally as out of wack atm, or close. It would go a long way in at least making more low tier enchanted gear spawn in the normal lobbies, because my casual buddies don't have a good time getting carried and brought gear constantly instead of just finding it in raid, or trying to do that with bullshit gear and them getting wiped by caped main characters like me.

[exotic parrot]

I CAN build a stash, but I also play a good bit and like the game a lot. You seem to be determined on me being horrible.

[mystic yoke]

So your friends are bad and need more experience with the game, which is what I was saying earlier....?

[exotic parrot]

I mean, they just need to hit a critical mass of playing, but that's what I mean. If you push the casuals away from a game like that the playerbase will stagnate.

[mystic yoke]

I guess. It would be a shame to see this go the way of the cycle 🥹

[exotic parrot]

Also to be fair they do decent enough, it just really sucks for them surviving like four raids in a row and not be able to find anything good for their class in normals and then eventually donate the couple scraps of gear they do get to super geared teams. And yeah, Cycle was a decent game, that shit was a shame.

It just sucks only having fun in solos or rogue ratting solo on crypts.

[mystic yoke]

What I do is just farm nothing but gold, gear I almost exclusively get with trading from other players. I hope your friends don't give up!

[exotic parrot]

I enjoy hr solo because it actually drops gear in chests and mobs. But for the most part I be buying blues and purps on trade chat too.

[crimson flax]

I enjoy hr solo to see people complain in game discussion later

[finite burrow]

Please make it so when you buy a race it applies to both genders not just one..., also allow us to right click report people in the trade chat for ad's

[exotic parrot]

That's good, glad you're enjoying it.

[tidal nexus]

make the rubysilver cap all class instead of only rogue and ranger (normal one is all class)

[sinful anvil]

THRUST "Attacks through armor gaps, ignoring 15% of the targets damage reduction when attacking"

Suggestion: Fix this passive to properly reflect that it ONLY applies to DAGGER WEAPONS!

❤️

[mystic yoke]

I enjoy HR solo because all the goblins are red and red is my favorite color 🥴

[prime geode]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/485794/bows-should-not-slow-on-hit

[exotic parrot]

Nobody want to talk about how that's not fun no matter how you spin it.

[unkempt flax]

What if the trading room was passive and you just listed your items like a flea market but people could filter through the assortment without a flood of messages?

And while you're in lobby people could trade you for items you've assigned a price to in your stash

[void moss]

I suggest u fix ur shit game and the annoying fucking trash crashes...

[cold gust]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/481394/high-roller-ante-should-be-rewarded-to-players-inside-dungeon-or-returned-on-ext

[austere wind]

Add more dialogue on characters. Bard singing, mage spell voice cast like tormentum detonos or similar latin words for magic missile or fire. Also warlock can voice spell magic. Archer can say more english words like take this im ready to break ur brain. More voice acting on characters will be very nice.

Rouge can whisper also in latin. It will be very scare to be in a dark room and u just start listening bunch of wispers. From a team of rouge's hahaha

[robust lark]

Dont fancy that myself

[flint rover]

Bruh take away voip. im so sick of the constant teaming every match in goblin caves

[somber wind]

Game would die

[ornate river]

Just made this vote up boiz

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486334/feint-cancel-attack

[somber wind]

More representation when voting so we can know if a group of 80 is a vocal minority similar to when we'd get suggestions on the discord (If you remember a suggestion could have 80 upvotes and 200 downvotes). The currenty suggestion voting system isn't representative of the communites collective opinion.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486337/downvoting-on-suggestions

[random condor]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486346/client-dc-issues

[prime geode]

game will die faster with dudes in blues and greens with rings and capes rolling normal lobbies too. And the downvote option did nothing other then also bring the people that felt the abusive mechanics and features are "fine" because its MY class and Dont nerf MY class/ abused mechanic. This is a PLAYTEST period, where BIG changes and RAPID changes happen to test and correct to IRONMACES foundational philosophy of their gameplay pillars, not just the salty players or the silent majority that actually do agree but are ignorant of where to make their voices herd the most clearly... AKA the suggestions on their website. Downvotes are the reason we dont uuse the other channel.

[somber wind]

I do not disagree, however gearscore is not the solution. I've said it before and I'll say it again; the potential of either being a scavenger or somehow killing someone above your league to jump leagues up is a major facet of the game. What needs to happen is a way to make it less common that you fight those people, I've suggested at one point that Level 14 and below and Level 15 and above should be separated; I go into more detail here: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/472908/new-user-filter-for-level-14-and-below

When it comes to downvotes, this is an opinion thing at this point; as a developer when you don't take into account both voices your game can filter those people you're ignoring out of playing it. This happen with The Culling and a few other games that were decently popular where they took too many suggestions that large parts of the community didn't like but a vocal minority felt was important.

I understand you want your voice to be heard and to not be stifled by people disagreeing with you; I feel the same way but there needs to be the back and forth so it appeals to the community instead of just a small part of it.

I can all day think that people are dumb for wanting Duos but if the major part of the community wants it then it should happen (just an example though).

[short heath]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/472659/matchmaking-balance-calculation-suggestion

Almost just as many up votes as duos has, community wants it.

[somber wind]

My point is that all votes on the suggestion form is invalid without having downvoting as an option.

[short heath]

Also, @somber wind give a single reason why you think it would be unhealthy for the game.

[somber wind]

I already did.

[somber wind]

To expand on what I said before, downvoting is required to show both sides of the coin. We've seen many suggestions in suggester before that has an ok amount of upvotes and an insane amount of downvotes; an example: #d-and-d-suggestions message

If that suggestion was on the suggestion form it would just have 56 upvotes. You wouldn't see the 459 people who disagree.

[short heath]

Where? I don't see any objective reasoning going into anything you've said that relates to GBMM being unhealthy.

[prime geode]

Okay, for my post : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/485794/bows-should-not-slow-on-hit < The first 2 people who comment did not upvote and disagree, thats what the comments are for. They where Wrong with their opinions as "use a shield" and "just dodge" are not valid to the massive slow the bow outputs with the damge and safety at range. And many ranger mains would downvote it to oblivion because "nothing wrong with rangers". That being said, sure there are many people that wont like the bow nolonger slowing on hit, and IM would never implement that as a possible solution if downvotes where in play.

[somber wind]

So I can make some clarifications then; Gearscore will force equal players to fight eachother, it removes inequality which obviously is a good thing but it also removes the ability to loot gear that is leagues better than yours and instead only minorly better. It's a major facet of the game to either scavenged from other fights or end up getting lucky. I do think there is a problem with pub stomping right now, but gearscore will make things less enjoyable.

[short heath]

So, the only thing you can even think of is that you can no longer get rich quick.

[somber wind]

I do see your point but it's alot less quantifiable which makes it harder to distinguish as the developer.

[short heath]

Sounds like a MASSIVE W for the whole community if that's the only potential downside to GBMM.

[somber wind]

You would be correct, and that shot of dopemine is something excessively enjoyable.

[short heath]

You can still find blue and purple gear that gives dopamine hits just the same in no-ante runs. Very poor argument.

[somber wind]

The other downside is that fights will be a little bit more stagnant and the timer on the dungeon would need to increase.

[somber wind]

So? Looting it off a corpse is more fun. You know you're taking from someone, they no longer get to have it.

[short heath]

Lul? Brother, you clearly do not play HR if this is another thought process of yours. Dungeon timers are already way too low.

[somber wind]

Timers have been increasing already, right now they feel perfect to me tbh

[prime geode]

Yea, I totally agree that it is impossible to quantifiably view the impression of the suggestion, BUT thats why its the suggestions. At the end of the day, IM has to digest what we find as the issues, and compromise the suggestion, the players solution with what fits within the design pillars or can be quatifiably reviewed in the backend statistics. IE: Rouges having the hand crossbow, Great suggestion, but everyone forgot the powerhouse dps with ability to hide in unreachable locations.

[short heath]

If you think hell timer is perfect right now, you're out of your mind or don't play to go to hell at all.

[somber wind]

Yes but before you could easily see if an idea was both good and the right way to go about it. Now you can only see if the idea is good. If an idea has traction but also alot of pushback then you know that there's SOMETHING here that's right and you need to piece meal it.

[somber wind]

What, are you talking about the amount of time it takes to fight a boss or something? I don't feel rushed anymore in Hell, I used to before the like last last last update before they increased the hell timer.

[short heath]

Yes, bossing is still atrocious if there are multiple teams to deal with and you're attempting to loot, especially based on the RNG of where rings go.

[somber wind]

Idk I feel like it's fine, that said I wouldn't be against us getting a triple escape portal from killing a boss to cut down on the time of managing a portal after; I'd be fine with the timer being increased instead of that though. I normally just bring Trolls blood just incase the circle ends up messing with the arena or for the treasure hoard.

[strange skiff]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486203/item-forge

Item forge without ruining RNG aspect. LMK what you guys think

[ornate river]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486334/feint-cancel-attack

Let's add feinting to make those melee pvp moments more interesting.

They've got it for spellcasting and bows why not add melee feinting. The ability to push f and cancel your attack mid swing

[untold stream]

lol

[sly veldt]

would love to have a goblin or any vendor ingame to take gold with and buy items

[white grove]

Gear locked dungeons but the best loot you can pull is green. Give the kiddies their kiddy pool

[arctic lagoon]

yes

[strange skiff]

love to hear it. Help spread the word if you'd like and maybe we can get it into the game

[serene tundra]

get rid of hunting traps

[naive walrus]

Suggestion: Has anyone suggested maybe trying a wipe without trading at all? Boost the amount of items and item rarity that the traders have, as well as increase the price of items. Could be a very fun experience that may solve some issues that people have with sweats just having perfect gear sets and pub stomping people. Would make gear feal more important and worthwhile

[somber wind]

Thoughts on something like this being a modifier? Note that the maximum possible % using all pieces of gear would be 18% if you got a perfect 2% roll for the same consumable on your Head, Chest, Legs, Boots, Gloves, Both Rings, Amulet and Cape.

• Untouched <Consumable> X%; This provides a chance to NOT use up an item. Rolls a random consumable (Including Thrown Weapons) and Rolls 1-2%. Example: If you have "Untouched Protection Potion 1%" you have a 1% chance upon drinking a Protection Potion to keep it instead of it being used up.

[tender olive]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486354/new-smaller-dungeon-with-smaller-lobby-size

Had an idea that coincidentally sort of addresses the trio/solo issues. Not super fleshed out, but I want to see people's thoughts.

[drifting trench]

SUGGESTION: As a cleric you should not be able to heal a dead ennemy.
OR: As a Mage you should not be able to haste a dead corpse as well

[hot wolf]

Phantomize through doors.

[prime geode]

this requires a perk and the perk does 10% less damage with those weapons.

[tulip hill]

I feel that phantomize through doors would make it too good of a disengage tool
I would rather see them make it so the warlock can end phantomize early

[prime geode]

^^^

[ornate river]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486334/feint-cancel-attack

Let's get feinting in the game, being able to cancel your attack before you finish your swing. Would make for some great melee pvp encounters

[abstract swallow]

Longbow isn't even the best ranged option for Fighter unless he's running with a Cleric to give him Divine Strikes.
Also, being able to end phantomize by re-pressing the key would be very nice.

[proper sundial]

fighters do have alot goin for them but taking bows away isnt the call tbh

[ornate river]

What do yall think about feinting?

[prime geode]

I would just like more parry options for classes without access too shields, I feel this would fit the same role as a feint.

[abstract swallow]

Right attitude, wrong direction. The devs want to minimize micro/execution skill in melee combat.
Feinting specifically is bad when trying to build a straightforward melee system, since it creates a foundation of uncertainty and deception for combat.

[prime geode]

still salty the rapier doesnt come with a parry option but the longsword does, same with the Zwie.

[ornate river]

Running upto someone and baiting that first hit by attacking then canceling. Would make combat more skillbased

[tulip hill]

I don't think it should be a core mechanic
maybe as an ability but I just don't feel the fighting in this game supports the idea very well

[ornate river]

You can cancel spells and arrows, I just think it would be so cool if you could cancel before you actually swing. Rather than just having combat being a timing thing.

[tulip hill]

you can cancel spells and arrows because those are things you can hold
once you attack with a sword the attack is happening, you don't ready your attack with a sword

[abstract swallow]

I could see "abilities take priority over attack animations" as a possible way to lean into this, especially with some skills like Victory Strike being impossible to execute mid-combo due to their required animation.
But I'd rather those abilities just not have a required animation in the first place.

[ornate river]

There's like 1 second where you pull your arm back to swing

Like an instant cancel to get the animation of you lifting your weapon to attack would be enough.

[proper sundial]

mordhau it and just turn your body so it hits faster

[tulip hill]

depends on the weapon
some attacks some out almost instantly

[ornate river]

I can confirm that doing that actually works, right click with the barb axe and basically 180

Yeah I get where your coming from for example it would be hard in daggers.

[pliant swallow]

cave troll aggro needs to be fixed, he lunges forward on almost every attack, has fairly strict dodge windows and is gigantic, no need for him to be able to get me up against a wall and then just reset back to full hp because his arena doesn't have proper boundaries

its just a nightmare to farm for that one reason, getting into a good rhythm, pvping in the actual fight itself and getting an advantageous circcle just to lose because his hp went back to full again

[tulip hill]

not to mention anyone with high agility would have a smaller window to use the feign

[prime geode]

this is 100% not the play, we dont want another mordhau/Mortal online with spinny attack bullshit

[ornate river]

Yeah but that fair enough.

[pliant swallow]

and considering how high roller troll is EASIER than than normal troll, no reason to every try and do normal cave troll

[proper sundial]

i was saying you can get around certain animations by doing that already

[violet sorrel]

we need gear restrictions running into geared players while im try to level a character makes this game impossible you can do everything right in a raid kill a team or 2 and get wiped by a full kit team i feel like gear needs to be set to highroller normal raids should have a gear cap of green gear so that its fair and not a elite team running thorugh every fight 2 tapping people

[pliant swallow]

dragging will always be a thing in any first person melee game that uses the camera as a combat tool

[ornate river]

Nah we don't, why you tryna stop me from taking geared people's stuff as a naked rogue

[prime geode]

Yes but IM does a very good job at limiting it. Currently it is fine, also if you just click attack instead of holding really does make the attack patterns throw people off.

[untold musk]

Ban the use of 3rd party soundboards such as "Activation of Hunting Traps" to fake players.

[prime geode]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/474956/gearscore-based-matchmaking-no-more-noob-farming

[gentle rapids]

Fuck that GBMM is wack af maybe level based matchmaking but that unnecessary anyway

[shrewd ledge]

gear based matchmaking isnt really ideal, but i do think there should be a push to try to take away the full purple and legendary teams out of the normal pools

[prime geode]

okay GBMM is not "wack af" thats 5-11 slots of + additional stats or stat changes. Most the time with a premium stat change, really changes the game from a skill to that of luck and gear. Imagine fighting someone with +1 all attrabutes on ever piece of gear and its all green. thats +11 to EVERYTHING, you are not killing that person in your 2-3 gearpieces of any piece you found in the dungeon.

[gentle rapids]

Then get gear of that tier or get better

[prime geode]

to get gear you need to survive, and you dont because everyone else has it, and they cant get better when they keep getting rolled due to a GEAR DIFFERENCE not a SKILL DIFFERANCE. This just shows how much of a toxic shitbag gamers are that they think because I cant roll a lobby with my premo gear anymore then its not fun.

[finite burrow]

does it really happen that often though? even if you naked or some shit just die and go next

[lusty crystal]

Add a gearscore system or this game will continue to be hot ass

[prime geode]

Its about the frustration and the vibe killer. Theres nothing worse then KNOWING you would have killed that 3man if they didnt have blues with capes + jewelry. While you just quit to play something else because this shit aint fun. If its a skill issue then sure GIT GUD but the gear has stats on it, and people min max those stats. YOU have 1% chance to win, and thats mostly luck, then skill.

[prime geode]

yes it really does, as a 3man of experianced (playtest 2 and on) DaD gamers. Theres geared 3mans that just run down everything and everyone. This has also only become a problem with the release and increase of gear availability.

[pastel dune]

yup lotta trihards around these days

[prime geode]

Wouldnt be mad if it was HR either, but this is fkn NORMALS and half the time they dont even go to hell.

[pastel dune]

gear locked queues should be a thing

[finite burrow]

idk what you would even do to fix that though gear locked or gear based matchmaking sounds kinda like a shitty band aid fix

[pastel dune]

well then its a griefers game

[exotic elm]

armet should be better than hounskull

[tame torrent]

let rogues use a buckler, get rid of tumble or make it better.

[upper hearth]

Floor spikes should no longer damage Warlocks in Phantom

[finite burrow]

tumble is pretty bad

[tulip hill]

pretty sure they don't, I swear I've ran right over them before

[tame torrent]

[somber wind]

Thoughts on this?

[livid mason]

that would encourage hoarding and apothocaries again

[somber wind]

how about restricting it to only throwable? Like Explosive Bottles.

[livid mason]

maybe ok

[prime geode]

My shit opinion is to have a GS that is based on Quality, Stat desirability (IE: Knowledge on casters or str on melee fighters), then the roll of the stats( high roll defense or got +2/3 all stats) Add all this up for the player then the team. If you exceed the "average player" by XX% then you are just forced into a HR lobby or maybe just skip right to a hell raid.

[abstract swallow]

The more systems you apply to a gearscore calculation, the less effective it becomes and the easier it is to exploit

[somber wind]

Subtracting the fact that I dislike GS, I feel like that'd make alot of people angry forcing them into things like Hell or locking them out of specific map configurations.

[finite burrow]

i don't mind that weird consumable chance thing prob would be funny

[abstract swallow]

If my Bard having a +3 Weapon Damage Drum pushes me up significantly, that's not going to help anyone, and the only people that will benefit are pubstompers that will have optimized gearsets calculated by outside tools.

[prime geode]

Well currently there are alot of angry people bringing in their minmax kit to a normal dungeon too.

[somber wind]

That was my thought too, you're not guaranteed and it might be better to just use it for offensive things like Throwing Axes.

[prime geode]

this is a moot point as stats dont apply to weapons or utilities unless you are holding them in your hands.

[somber wind]

You get farther with sugar and honey. Something that has been proven in game design is rewarding good behavior does ALOT more for a game than punishing bad behavior. (Good/Bad being decided by the developer) So we need to find a way to reward the good behavior more.

[abstract swallow]

So just kill them and loot them?
If you want to encourage bringing appropriate kits to dungeons you need to tax higher end gear to make people bringing it in dependent on reserves of cash or actually making a proper return on investment/risk.
Until they're paying higher repair costs for bringing Epic+ gear into Low Roller there's not only no reason for them to stop doing it, they're actively encouraged to farm LR overgeared because it's the most effective moneymaker

bow fatigue won't happen, devs said they don't want stamina systems
the only nerf ranger needs is tripleshot getting a scaling cooldown based on how big a bow he uses it with

[livid mason]

You think forcing geared players to pay an an entry fee to regular crypts and having naked pay none a good idea?

[abstract swallow]

You have just described a durability system... in reverse.

[tulip hill]

wait!
I just had an idea for the gearscore debate
what if instead of your lobby being based on the quality of your gear, it was based on how many times that gear has made it out of the dungeon
it would be like a winstreak based matchmaking that you couldn't reset by resetting your winstreak
the only real way to bypasss the system would to obtain a fresh set of god gear, making intentionally stomping low gear lobbies stupidly expencive as you would have to constantly buy/find new high quality gear

[somber wind]

@livid mason Thoughts on this modifier?

• Inherent Item Attributes +X; Increases the inherent stat(s) on the piece of gear it's rolled on by X. Rolls 1-2. Example: Riveted Gloves have +1 Strength by default. If the Riveted Gloves had "Inherent Item Attributes +2" it would increase the +1 Strength on the Gloves to +3.

[abstract swallow]

That'd seriously kill momentum for new players/fresh wipes, especially if it were a strict threshold. Escape once, get trounced by people in full shop kits before you're level 5.
It's also just a huge bummer in general, escaping with gear only for it to be 'toxic' for playing with your friends is much more problematic than something as simple as permanent max durability damage on repair would be.

[somber wind]

To clarify, it only affects the item it's rolled on

[prime geode]

just win KEKW, dont get hit and kill and kite the whole dungeon, or JUST RUN LOL.... its never that easy and as stated above the difference of a geared player and non geared player is a HUGE stat differance and the skill of killing them and taking their loot is only 1% of it, they have to misplay the whole fight. Which if they are in that gear in the first place they KNOW how to play and fight. So your skill level could be the same or even better then them but the +11 Instances of stat changes MINIMUM this is just greens in each slot. You dont get to fight, you get 1/2 shot, while doing maybe 10% of their hp.

[tulip hill]

if that's the case what about gear that doesn't have any inherent item attributes?
also how is this different from just getting a +1 strength on riveted gloves?

[abstract swallow]

it literally is that easy, I've killed multiple sweatsquads as solo Wizard/Ranger this wipe
the rarity damage squish only made it easier and more intuitive to do
if you're worried about gear difference, adress that instead of killing the game's progression and bracketing apart the playerpool in the primary gamemodes
redo the AR curve and make armor advance in rarity with diminishing returns like weapons do now, for starters

[somber wind]

Because it's compatible with +1 Strength rolled. This also would be a dead stat similar to Spell Capacity on a Barbarian Helmet. This also would be interesting on things like raw hide gloves with more than 1 inherent attribute.

[finite burrow]

the AR curve is probably the worst when it comes to gear you can feel helpless against someone with like 70% pdr

[tulip hill]

at lower gear levels you are constantly swapping out your gear anyways, keeping you in relitivly low score lobbies
as for your concern on gear to be "toxic' for playing with your friends" could you clerify on what you mean by that?

[prime geode]

WIZARD AND RANGER LOLOLOLOL.... Go fight a geared squad as anyone else in greys and whites and tell me how many you win.

[abstract swallow]

Okay, I've done it as Fighter and Rogue and post-nerf Bard?
All you've done just now is out yourself as begging for this whole gearscore thing because of your massive, embarrassing skill issue.

[tulip hill]

hmm
for things like rawhide, it does provide something unique
you end up getting two +1s where you otherwise might have gotten a +2 in a single stat
as for rolling dead stats, I strongly believe they should prevent specific rolls on specific gear
nothing feels worse than getting a blue with two dead stats rolled on it

[pastel dune]

pretty sure only way to effectively prevent griefing is to seperate lobbies by gear. my idea is if u bring in more than 2 green gear items then you're queue-ing into a green gear lobby etc. @tulip hill

[somber wind]

Yeah 100% I do think we should also have a little more restriction on rolls. If a modifier has no functionality on a class even with unique items for them it shouldn't be rollable.

That said, fighter does exist.

I'd be interested to see how these bad rolled stats affect us when we get Wands, Scrolls and Artifacts.

[prime geode]

I am not begging for shit, I am discussing the opinion of a GS and how it would be implemented. The fact that your outing yourself as a shitbag that likes to just pubstomp and think everyone should just get good gear and play better, while IM is actively addressing the gear disparity by changing weapon damage, the AR curve, increasing loot in the dungeon and activly listening says alot about you aswell.

[abstract swallow]

basically, the system you've proposed with gear becoming 'radioactive' naturally discourages people from playing together if they don't extract from scratch all in the same sitting/continuous sessions
you've either got to commit some of your very limited stash space, which is so restricted because the devs espouse a 'use it or lose it' philosophy, to holding onto radioactive gear to play with elsewhere, or you drag other, less geared or prepared individuals up into higher 'radioactivity' brackets-- and if you try to balance this system across teams or the lowest 'radiation' level in a group all you do is promote stompsquads bringing sandbaggers to pull down their level with naked-kit support classes

[ornate river]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486334/feint-cancel-attack?fbclid=IwAR0f9quHmoD1D8hofe_KurT_FFxmHY7MDB9hvl4hTlpe3KqxQYajab_Fjb4

Let's add feinting to the game to make for some spicey pvp

[abstract swallow]

It's not gonna happen man, they've patched all 3 versions of animation cancelling.

[gentle delta]

knowledge rings would be nice, seems strange all attributes have a necklace and ring except for knowledge ring

[somber wind]

The ring exists but doesn't drop yet. I think they're waiting for more casting classes or something.

[gentle delta]

ah ok ok

[formal wadi]

Gonna need to agree here. You can't just say "skill issue" when you get one-tapped if you make a mistake but need to hit the enemy much more to win

[ornate river]

But that's because it was an exploit not a feature

[tulip hill]

does normal gearscore not have the same problem? playing with someone that has better gear than you will drag you up into a lobby where all the enemies will outgear you as well

[abstract swallow]

Normal gearscore has similar problems, but you've managed to do even less than gearscore because your system actively sabotages players that have escaped in default/shop kit while providing an exploitable out for pubstompers to avoid it (gear cycling/washing).

[tulip hill]

if you escape in default/shop kits I would expect you to have pick up other gear
as for the cycling, while possible, would be far less common
though this comes to where we have differing opinions
I don't believe this game should have strict gear based segregation
while extraordinarily difficult, anyone who does manage to outplay someone who outgeared them gets their gear and the huge hit of dopamine from actually pulling it off

[crystal prism]

The only change I want is stop putting ranged classes next to melee classes in high rollers no reason if I’m melee I should spawn across from a Ranger or wiz that just sits across map from spawn and ticks away at your

[abstract swallow]

I don't think it should have any sort of gear segregation other than what players choose to do, it's why High Roller was such a celebrated concept because you chose to do more dangerous content for higher reward. It was a natural outcome of good incentives: If you want a challenge, or if you want higher reward, you willingly step up to the plate.
Now that GC/GCHR have utterly gutted lobby diversity, absurd lootbuffs have cranked the game to the point that an organized team can have multiple Epic pieces before ever hitting 10/15, and trading has become drastically more optimized it's no wonder that the only geared gameplay we're seeing is people 'punching down' into Low Roller. It's all they're incentivized to do, so why would they choose slower, more dangerous, and not particularly more rich lobbies?

The pubstomping problem is a bunch of other issues stacked on top of eachother, and I'm half tempted to get Kurt to write up another huge wall of text about it because GearScores are NOT the answer, and if the sources of the problem aren't adressed AND any sort of matchmaking/gearcap gets implemented you'll see lobbies get even more toxic/uninteractive.

[tulip hill]

oh dear! it seems I have mistaken you for someone else
I thought you were in favor of gearscore based matchmaking
you're probably very correct in saying the problem is a lot more complex and any sort of matchmaking won't address the actual cause
thank you for the reasonable responses and I apologise for misunderstanding your position

[finite burrow]

well i'll say one thing, we definitely need a right click to report feature in the trade channel for people posting ad's for certain things...speaking of accessibilty of gear

[abstract swallow]

all good man, you're by far one of the most good-faith people in here
you make people like me who are here to cause problems look bad

[bronze fjord]

reverse +3 all atr, nerf strenght hp gain on higher amounts, nerf wizzard invis idk make a smoke trail or something when someone is runing while invisible

[finite burrow]

idc about +3 being removed again, it is kinda dumb that str doesn't have diminishing returns on health till like 50 str or some shit. Don't you think wiz kinda needs true invis though? i feel like they would just get shredded otherwise

[formal lake]

Requesting staircases be reinstalled in ruins to go to crypts

[finite burrow]

the staircase feature was pretty cool

[bronze fjord]

i think its too strong when barb can run on full speed while invisible they could leave true invis when you are crouching or slow walking

[finite burrow]

i agree it is pretty dam strong on team mates but on himself i think its necessary

[bronze fjord]

🤔 damn thats harder than i thought haha

[abstract swallow]

imo all positive (16+) main attributes should have the same bracketing they do for being under 15, just twice as slow
the fact that a Fighter gets less out of every single stat in the game compared to other classes is just silly

[finite burrow]

fighter's don't really get less though its just the fact that fighter starts with 15 of every stat like 15 str so they are at like 0% phys power bonus whereas things like ranger and rogue are in the -% at like idk 9 starting str

[glacial moon]

My suggestion is a Announcement 📣 where IM’s has decided to put in a extra class for their favorite gamer (DenSandeKrystal) and as a test we will give him a special class called The Goblin King - You will be able to find him in eu servers for now where there is a 5% rarity to meet him in your goblin cave. 🫡🔥 Best of regards IM’s and happy hunting for the goblin king!🤴🏼 Sorry guys it was a good dream which I just had tho.

[ornate snow]

Add eldritch blast to warlock or a longer range quicker spell to actually give warlock ranger viability

[sharp badge]

there should be an option in the find players menu for players from last game

[shrewd hedge]

Potions should restock every game. You shouldn't have to afk waiting for a restock just to play the game.

[ornate river]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486334/feint-cancel-attack?fbclid=IwAR0f9quHmoD1D8hofe_KurT_FFxmHY7MDB9hvl4hTlpe3KqxQYajab_Fjb4 let's get feinting in the game for spicy melee combat

[remote wing]

Make haste only for the wizard, barbs are 2 shotting everything with a wizard

[sharp sandal]

sometimes 1 shotting

[olive jewel]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486429/let-players-dip-drawn-arrows-into-fire-sources

[wispy dagger]

GEAR SCORE MATCHMAKING - so tired of haviing greys to just have a dude in all purples smack me once in EVERY ROUND

[coral ice]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486442/3-man-portals

[elfin harness]

This is needed very badly. It hasn't gotten too out of control since the wipe, but it's only a matter of time.

You can't have a game like this and not have Any matchmaking. It's not sustainable, and it's gonna scare off your casual playerbase.

[wintry egret]

the cheater problem is a massive issue please fixs that whack shit

[paper warren]

Make rogues Creep perk give an extra two steps for stealth 🙂

[wintry egret]

already have the ability to one shot without gear and you want more, typical rogue player nothing is ever enough

[vernal lotus]

Normally I’d agree with feinting but idk doesn’t feel like in this game

[woven marsh]

Invisibility needs to break aggro immediately on use

[empty valve]

Rogue shouldnt get the damage buff when exiting invisibility if he's revealed by enemies

[lusty fractal]

LOL yeah sure dude rogues 1 shotting without gear

[abstract swallow]

all a gearcap/gearscore system would do is let pubstompers have captive audiences full of new/lowgear players to slaughter
the moment you introduce any system like that there will be tools that tell people what their bracket is and how to optimize it, it's been the case in every MMO that's tried to gate PvP by gear since the dawn of time

[outer turtle]

Potions of Protections (Common) should be allowed in stash. Health, Clarity, and Invisibility can be stashed however the Protection isn't allowed to be. Makes no sense.

[limber elbow]

Why the game keep force us play high roller can't find any match in solo goblin

[midnight timber]

More magic resist needs to exist in the game or the base dmg of wizard spells needs to go down. Getting dropped by single fireballs or half of the balls of a magic missle is just lame and not fun game play

[magic jackal]

6v6 gamemode on high roller crypt 5 :^)

[south jackal]

i think some type of gear based matchmaking is needed. going naked for money runs isn’t fun when theres an all purple team in every norm lobby

[turbid geyser]

Nerf crossbow plz :c

[granite fog]

The Howling Crypts' circle needs to be at least 50% slower (or make final circle take 3x longer before instakill) because I can't tell you how many times my team hasn't had any pvp until final circle and we have no time to even loot or rez a teammate. I swear Ruins takes longer, or at least it's a smaller map but same time so it feels like there's way more time

[south jackal]

crossbow is chillin imo shit is hard to hit with and takes long asf to reload. u jus need btr movement

[stark trail]

the time that I have to wait to buy potions form the alchemist is meaningless like why? I'm playing non stop why do I have to wait!

[heavy edge]

they really need to improve their matchmaking, i kid you not fighting the lobby everyone has regular except 1 team wearing all purples clearing the lobby with ease. that should not be happening

[mystic yoke]

To force you to be more careful and not use as many potions in a drop, probably

[heavy edge]

4th game in a row jumping into a match where just 1 team has far superior loot than the other teams. fighting other teams with equal loot is fun and easier to accept when i die, but fighting another team that is far superior in loot and its all 3 of them not just 1 really kills it for me. Make those players play against people with that kind of gear or closer

[gentle rapids]

No, get better gear bozo

[lucid compass]

More channels for the godamn Trading Market. Would be 2x easier to sell things if there wasn't 1.2 million people per channel

[prime geode]

crossbows should not 1tap a full hp player

[long dawn]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING GOD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE INTENTIONAL TEAMING IN HIGH ROLLER GOBLIN CAVES ITS GETTING SO FUCKING OLD DYING TO DUOS AND TRIOS THAT ARE FULLY GEARED

[granite plinth]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486483/old-rusty-key-comeback upvote if you like the idea.

[elfin vigil]

This had to be the worst idea ever lol less channels can be better , more would only spread offer and buyers

[worldly zenith]

I think warlock needs to have a diffrent starting loadout

[gentle rapids]

I want them to have a shortsword off rip but they don’t even get it in their weapon pool

[worldly zenith]

thats the issue with warlock his weapon pool dosent have any weapon that is weak enough to be in a starting loadout

[gentle rapids]

Yeah… it’s all swords and shit

[elfin vigil]

Bardiche? Lel

[worldly zenith]

bardiche wouldnt be in a starting loadout

[gentle rapids]

Like all heavy two handed shits

[worldly zenith]

they should allow lock to use an arming sword or somthing

[gentle rapids]

Yeah arming or I was saying shortsword cus it’s smol, I guess they get falchion but that 100% would be too broken off rip

[stable bough]

Queuing in normal dungeons can be a problem for new comers when they are up against teams of players with full purple/leg. Adding the Zero to Hero mode would make the game much more enjoyable when the season has begun for sometime and make the game evergreen and not wipe waited/hyped:

Zero to Hero:

• The only mod available until lvl 5 (less ppl will quit the game), level 5 unlock normal games.
• You start with no gear, you may keep it all if you successfully extract.
• You still can sell your gear to vendor, bank it up or even trade it at lvl 10.
• Start with Ruins, then B1, then inferno. 15 mins each (to give plenty of time to loot / fight), 45 minutes total. The lower you go, the better the rewards ofc.
• Merge B1 and B2 from other games to fill. B1 with max 12 players, Inferno with max 9 players.

Normal games / high roller:
You may use your gear in bank

This will allow players who wanna start from scratch to do so and will not have to wait for the game to wipe. This will prevent over geared players to ruin the experience of players with starting gear and give a safe haven to new comers.
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486125/make-the-normal-games-zero-to-hero-and-solve-the-gear-and-wipe-problem

[cerulean nexus]

Bigger money pouches, or a bigger stash would be nice

[granite plinth]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486483/old-rusty-key-comeback

Bring the purpose of Old Rusty Keys but limit its purpose so it is something comparable with golden key making golden key not the only key that can be used for treasure hoards resulting it to decrease its demand and price will drop slowly and to avoid the infamous scams of golden key trades that is happening right now.

[lucid compass]

Its a win/loss topic fs

[steep turtle]

hey bozo, how do you get better gear? is it by extracting loot to sell to traders an merchants or is it dying to a purple/gold kitted team evey round?

[gentle rapids]

Idk figure it out, if you can’t get any gear then get better at the game, you don’t have to fight the mega juiced players and if they chase you that’s just bad luck

[tardy zenith]

dont fight fights you cant win?

[ebon idol]

He can't win any fights.

[steep turtle]

lol "idk figure it out" is a similar response i was expecting. just get better. you sound like a total douche with response like that. if you're wearing purple in normal dungeons you should hang it up. go to high rollers where there is equal strength fighting back..... they wont tho cause theyd find out they are not better. its even free now @tardy zenith so do they have a number above their head that says 1000 defense and offense or am i missing where you can just tell people are full kit vs not? aside froma cloak it is the same gear with different ratings and you cant see rings and pendants or level of weapons. right?

[tardy zenith]

you can kill purples with greens if you know how to play the game

[steep turtle]

everyone can say what they want or typical get good bs but it will kill the game as a whole. is what it is

[gentle rapids]

Get good bozo

[steep turtle]

typical

[stuck perch]

Let the stats of the caster affect the duration of buffs on other targets.
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/485200/let-the-stats-of-the-caster-affect-the-length-of-debuffs-and-buffs

[tulip hill]

I'm honestly on the fence with this
on one hand, I like buff duration being a personal stat as it makes it an important stat for most classes to have, not just for their own buffs but any buffs their team mates might apply on them
as for debuffs, reversing the dynamic of this stat would be extremely powerful for any affliction that deals damage, and given that those afflictions also scale with damage stats that would make DoTs much more oppressive

on the other hand, being able to build specifically for support would be nice, though support mechanics in the game are already extremely potent

[bronze plinth]

It would definitely enhance your experience if icons would blink in yellow whenever a trade occurs while you're watching something else by alt-tabbing. this would allow you to stay updated on your trading activities without missing any opportunities.

[stuck perch]

For buff duration, you could either let both the stats of the caster and the target apply (with the base duration of buffs adjusted to reflect this) or you could take the average of both the caster's and the target's buff duration stats. One of these two should satisfy you as far as buff duration goes.
Debuff duration on the other hand could substract the target's debuff duration from the caster's debuff duration applying the result to the length of the debuff.
This would both keep the original purpose of the stats and also let players build specifically for support. Support mechanics are already potent, but with gear debuffs will fall off, some debuffs are already insanely short that it's a wonder they're used at all even before debuff reduction comes into play. We have cleanse that's supposed to clear debuffs but very little use for it in this manner because debuffs don't last that long.

[rugged nexus]

if u want mm on same level go play cod . The hell man. Thats not that kind of a game. Just get good or leave it

[swift thorn]

I think there should be a listing feature added to the trade market that allows you to put items up for sale on a list without having to be there when it sells and if and when an item sells you will get a notification in lobby that a listing item has sold and then can go and collect said gold. I say this for a few reasons, 1. Sometimes I don't have all day to sit in the trade market trying to sell things, 2. This would help out with your stash being crowded until if and when being able to upgrade stash storage becomes a thing, and 3. This is also just an all around good quality of life update in my opinion. Thanks for considering this and I really hope whoever reads this agrees with it. Have a nice day.

[stuck perch]

💯
This game is not made to provide an even playing field. Portals are made to split your party up, narrow corridors provide advantages to some classes over others. Being down a team mate or even being a solo or duo player in a 3s map isn't fair but it's glorious.

[stuck perch]

👎 Having to be there means people can't just dump stuff on the auction house and forget about it. if you have something worth selling you have hawk your goods. If you have better things to do you either sell cheap or come back later. This keeps the economy and inflation low. If something like what you describe is implemented, inflation would cause the economy to explode. Resellers and scalpers would also have an easier time than they should gaming the economy.

[limber elbow]

another shit buff for ranger place 2 trap near , can't do that in beta test now they put 2 trap on the same place and i call it's door 3 trap 1 trap flying and 2 trap on the ground best buff

[hidden cosmos]

Remove the "reset timer" for items such as Potions and Bandages. Make it so that basic Utility items for certain classes are always available. It is extremely frustrating, especially at low levels, that you have to buy your potions in advance rather than just be able to buy potions in the moment in order to have a stock, or if you run out of potions you have to wait Half an Hour in order to buy potions again or are forced to hit level 10 to then spend 15 extra gold on potions.

It feels horrible to go into a dungeon without any heals. Or come back from a loss streak and then try to buy potions only to see that you have to wait 30 minutes for it to restock.

[stuck perch]

The problem with that is players then bring 30 healing pots into a match.

[hidden cosmos]

Potions dont stack. And how does that prevent people who are gold horders or people who just get out casually to buy and stock potions every single 30 minutes or just trade chat spamming potions?

Regular players arent spending and bringing 180 gold worth of potions and 50 gold worth of bandages into a dungeon.

[stuck perch]

It's a significant enough problem that the devs felt they should nerf potions has a whole in the previous patch.

[hidden cosmos]

The nerf to potions wasnt because of how many of them people were bringing, it was because they would bring multiple potions of different qualities so that they can stack the different grade of heals to then heal to full within seconds.

Now it makes no sense to bring so many potions. Now you just bring in small batches of higher grade potions.

[stuck perch]

That's only part of the nerf. If that's so removing potion stacking would have fixed the problem. they also completely revamped potion and bandages over this.

[tulip sundial]

This isn’t gameplay. Tarkov doesn’t have this problem, and they have an auction house style trade system

[paper citrus]

Would turning off voip in the waiting lobby remove the teaming up before a match? Would be an easy fix for pre games. You’ll have to wait till your in a match to talk to players and see if they decide to team up?

[ebon idol]

Doesn't really make a difference. The only problematic teamers are the ones that meet before they even que up.

Everyone else is still betraying and considering the actions of the moment before actually going through with the teaming.

[swift thorn]

It could work if after a certain period of time listings are taken down and the item is returned to the player like after 3 days and you have to wait a certain amount of time before you can list it again.

[paper citrus]

But if their main concern is pre game team up then turning voip off in lobby would fix their issue. In game ppl need to weigh the good and bad of teaming with a rando at the time and if they can trust someone. That shouldn’t be punishable since there’s no guarantee that you’ll escape or get betrayed. It’s more authentic

[ebon idol]

The lobby is not what they mean with pre game. Pre game is before you even press the start game button. It is pre que with your friends.

In the lobby you should already be matched with strangers.

[restive portal]

Please Make a "Auction house" type place to sell stuff. I want to be able to just list an item and Wait for it to sell or for it to be able to sell while Im offline, would make trading/playin the game so much funner and Not have to spend 2+ hrs in the Trade post looking/debating for a piece of gear

[brisk marsh]

Any reason why we don't have shared stashes?

[paper citrus]

Well you can’t do anything about it. Leaving and joining a lobby just to play solo with your friend and then spawning across the map from eachother. That again isn’t a guarantee to be with your friend or even spawn near eachother.

[paper citrus]

Maybe write script that would not allow friends to be in the same lobby when running solo. That would have to assume they add a friends list.

[ebon idol]

Would people still abuse that by just not adding each other as friends? Probably

[paper citrus]

At that point what can you do? Let there be a waiting time before reque. Increasing in time whenever you leave a pregame lobby.

15-30min wait for que would kill that quick.

[gentle storm]

REMOVE BARD

[paper citrus]

Really need official controller support with the ability to keybind the buttons please 🙏 Thank you ☺️

[real trellis]

If you are sick of getting no-stat greens or getting cast speed on a spear, here is the suggestion to boost https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486522/remove-dead-stats-and-make-items-roll-as-many-stats-as-they-should-by-rarity

[rugged nexus]

Less portal on the map but the portals should be 2 person / 3 persons portals

[granite plinth]

^^^upvote this^^^

[elfin vigil]

Ok but reduce loot quantity a bit to balance out

[elfin vigil]

Sounds good maybe to try , probably should be a fixed fee of 15g per item + something like 10% of sold price

[real trellis]

I feel like there are enough bad or borderline useless stats like knowledge on an axe or item equip speed that loot could honestly stay as is. Just because purples would be guaranteed to get 3 rolls if my suggestion is taken, there is no guarantee they'll be good rolls.

[elfin vigil]

It would up the chance of them being good tho so reducing loot would balance

[real trellis]

You could still get like +1 move speed +1 resourcefulness and +0.9% max health on something

not worthless but still a bad roll

[granite moon]

Whats your opinion on changing the loot system so any useless stats dont get apllied to weapons

[real trellis]

I think it should be very strictly defined as to what is 'useless' such as cast speed or physical healing on a longsword. anything else like knowledge and magic damage bonus is fair game

[gentle rapids]

Well everything Is useful to one class but it would maybe be nice to get 3 attributes you know can benefit the same class, so stuff like cast speed on a felling axe wouldn’t happen

[real trellis]

The standard should be "cannot help with anything ever no matter what applicable class is using it"

cast speed on 2h weapons or maces (clerics can't use an offhand casting tool), physical healing on any weapon, magic damage bonus on a longbow

There is no situation where those kinds of things can ever help

[granite moon]

Lots of instruments have useless stats

Like damage on a lyre, mag damg bonus on anything other than a drum, etc

[gentle rapids]

Yeah it would be nice to see attributes aligned with the items not just random rolls all willy nilly

[real trellis]

basically yeah. I don't want to see "only bis stats can roll on items" but less literal useless stats.

[granite moon]

I agree with Dousiq on the fact that it should be confined to strict rules

[real trellis]

If you get knowledge on a longbow, tough. hold it out while you open portals and use shrines.

If you get will on a fighter helmet, too bad. You'll be slightly more magic resistant even if it won't make that much of a difference.

[granite moon]

Most enchants are useful in some way, which makes it even worse once you get something 100% useless

[granite moon]

And buff duration! Longer sprint

[gentle rapids]

Well most merchant are selling white tier stuff but yeah when the occasional green/blue come around

[real trellis]

Strength on a spellbook? Too bad, you'll have a couple more hp while you're holding it and that might save you from a oneshot

Everything should have a THEORETICAL use case even if it isn't BIS

[real trellis]

haha I need you to help me pitch a purple helmet with will on it to fighter trade because no one will buy it

[granite plinth]

🅰️ 🇳 🇹 🇮 🇬 🇴 🇱 🇩 🇰 🇪 🇾 🇭 🇴 🅰️ 🇷 🇩 🇮 🇳 🇬 https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486483/old-rusty-key-comeback#comment543310 Basically bring back old rusty key treasure hoard but is absolutely lesser chance of getting high quality loots and reduce the number of looting loot piles!

[real trellis]

The main problem with loot piles wasn't the loot quality it was wall-hacking looters who get in there without a key or just loot from outside. If they can figure that out I fully support bringing back super juiced treasure hordes

If you're going to spend 1250 gold on a chance to get good items you should have a chance to get them

[granite plinth]

true, but the situation we are in right now are people using it to exploit or scam people such as they request 200g upfront then 1250g at the next trade once u trade them the initial gold they will leave. Same with people buying they will pay 1250g for the key then they will tell you they will pay the remaining silver balance after the next trade then they will run as well and you got ripped off because gold keys are around 1500g+ now.

[real trellis]

I think it's hilarious that items are sold for more than 1250

[granite plinth]

the economy is bad right now so they need to balance things out as well but yeah you have a point

[real trellis]

We need event currency back. Valentines candy and whatnot was a great way to store more gold than you otherwise could

Your only other option is to buy up stuff that has a higher value than 50g/slot

all I can think of in this case would be rubysilver bars and powder

Back in the old PSO days they used to use Photon Drops as currency when trading player to plaer

You could use photon drops for various upgrades for your gear so they were always valuable

Tokens of Honor are 1 slot and sell for 60 gold so you could potentially hoard those but you'd waste a lot of gold buying them and who would actually sell 'em

[winged mortar]

+resources?

[real trellis]

Resourcefulness boosts normal interact speed so if you have a weapon with +resourcefulness you just hold it while opening doors or chests

What I want to see is +luck on gear

from 1-3 per roll, not enough to go crazy just something to take with you when you're gonna use a luck pot anyway

[winged mortar]

I feel like resourcefullness should = luck

[gentle rapids]

Ranger weapons shouldn’t slow people wtf

[real trellis]

100%-85%-70% or so

On a 45 dmg longbow that's still 45 - 38.25 - 31.5 or 114ish on bodyshots which is a crazy amount of damage to be putting out at range in such a short time

[gentle rapids]

Ranger moment

[zealous fog]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486596/make-the-bard-simpler-and-nerf-it

[gentle rapids]

Just make ‘em do 10 damage

[real trellis]

Nah rogues and rangers already have it easy when it comes to speedily opening chests they don't need to also have the best luck, not to mention bard already has a luck perk they don't also need 5 luck from having 20 resourcefulness

[gentle rapids]

They got 20? Sheesh

[vivid warren]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/481886/stash-sort-up-button-qol🇺 Ⓜ️ 🇦 🇰 🇪 🇮 🇹 🇪 🇦 🇸 🇾
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/485873/add-game-replay-for-cheat-expose 🇫 🇴 🇷 🔨 🇨 🇭 🇪 🇦 🇹 🇪 🇷 🇸

[granite plinth]

🅰️ 🇳 🇹 🇮 🇬 🇴 🇱 🇩 🇰 🇪 🇾 🇭 🇴 🅰️ 🇷 🇩 🇮 🇳 🇬 https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486483/old-rusty-key-comeback#comment543310 Basically bring back old rusty key treasure hoard but is absolutely lesser chance of getting high quality loots and reduce the number of looting loot piles! UPVOTE WE MISS OUR TREASURE HOARDS IN RUINS // PLEASE BRING BACK RUINS ALIVE ITS DEAD RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE IS NO TREASURE HOARD TO FIGHT FOR

[tulip hill]

Just had my hellfire cast backwards and kill me 😔

[gentle rapids]

What da… how?

[tulip hill]

if you fire hellfire while close to something it will shoot in a random direction

[rugged wolf]

so dropping rings and necklaces just despawn?

[tulip hill]

they have the tendency to clip into the floor and with how small they are they end up completely unreachable

[rugged wolf]

mm yes

[gentle rapids]

Hmm

So we can chalk that up to warlock not finished yet? I guess

[soft acorn]

I had the same once I casted hellfire in front of 2 goblins and it bounced twice 180 degrees and it killed me

[versed nebula]

Here is my suggestion : https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486581/remove-bard

[terse marten]

Remove Fighter

[gentle rapids]

Bruh why y’all signing this goddam?

[tulip hill]

remove classes :)

[versed nebula]

We have to do this

[terse marten]

give every skill a point or ability a point and we use the point buy system

[gentle rapids]

Bro please try and rub the two braincells you got left together, classes aren’t getting removed

[strange skiff]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486203/item-forge

Item forge to get the rolls you want without killing RNG ^

[gentle rapids]

Add goblin tinkerer from terraria so we can waste all our money on rerolling our weapons

[mighty folio]

@ruby apex 😄 lmao

[tulip hill]

could give the goblin merchant a service tab

[gentle rapids]

<.< tru

[gentle rapids]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486658/dummy-dungeon this should be low on the devs priorities but it should be an option in the game

[stuck perch]

Or the current system of hawking gear with filters works fine.

[low osprey]

Lets get a friends list/Guild in this game!

[grand peak]

So instead of a dungeon that's "gear locked" based on how high quality your kit is as people have said, what about a dungeon were everyone HAS to go in stock? A lot of people love the zero to hero thing, and this would ensure everyone's almost on the same starting ground (minus character level).

[stuck perch]

vote it up
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/470766/friends-list-please

[low osprey]

done

[ruby pendant]

I don’t think I have seen a single suggestion suggesting to remove the ability to cheese enemies on the stairs… gotta add some new movement with the PvE every boss can be cheesed by a grey rondel dagger rogue. Should they be able to kill the boss? Absolutely! Should they be able to stand in one spot and left click for 30 seconds straight stabbing toes? No! It’s lame! And it turns these big awesome boss rooms into big open PVP spaces with 0 PvE interaction.

[quartz pasture]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486672/training-dungeon-lower-tier-drops-limit-gear-to-gray-max-for-dungeon-variant

Title says it all, basically a dungeon that anyone can use that has a significant reduced drop rate and a gear cap for new players / people learning classes / players leveling

Gear would be capped at bringing in lowest quality vendor gear / starter equip
Loot in dungeon would cap at white
Maybe reduced players in lobby

[low osprey]

I agree with this, Every high level streamer just finds ways to cheese the AI. Makes it WAY less difficult

[ruby pendant]

I think it is important to allow some level of cheese, but the stairs man I’ve been abusing ever since I found out. It would make for more interesting group encounters if the boss actually was able to tank damage, or not dead within the first 20 seconds of when you spawn in and find every boss dead on the floor by a set of stairs lol

[slate oar]

Bro.. Do something about people selling gold for $$ in the Gathering Hall... Please....

[silver umbra]

is it just me or are barbarians insanely good in solo dungeons

what am I missing fellas, 3 headshots, 2 body shots with arming sword on fighter and I look and he has barely lost 1/3 his life, he was in base gear

[quartz pasture]

This is a you issue tbh. Barbs are pretty easy to bait whiffs, as a fighter you can look up and deflect their axe shots pretty easily. Barb is strong but it's not the strongest in solo (rogue or ranger takes that imo)

[silver umbra]

solid advice, will give it a go

unless horseman axe, then prob run

[versed nebula]

Here is my suggestion LETSS GOOOO https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486581/remove-bard

[crisp pendant]

Give a Luck perk to Rangers!

OR magic arrows!

[silver shard]

Here is my suggestion! https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486684/buff-resting-heal

Buff the resting healing. takes way to long

[prime geode]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/485794/bows-should-not-slow-on-hit

[gentle rapids]

👍

[prime geode]

thanks for the upvote 🐼 🐼 🐼

[ornate magnet]

What do you think about this improvement in the system of providing equipment for auctions?

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486685/improve-the-equipment-search-system-on-the-auction

[subtle blade]

nerf wizard... magic missile 400 base dmg leg hits no loot equipped, nice

[gentle rapids]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486658/dummy-dungeon practice range?

[versed nebula]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486581/remove-bard Go delete Bard

[gentle rapids]

👎

[ornate magnet]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/472738/add-the-old-tavern-as-a-practice-location

[gentle rapids]

👍

[prime geode]

yea gotta agree, having access to the tavern with your party where you could all buff, use booze and see the damage would really help. Would also like to see a veriety of dummys from naked to super juiced fighter man with max AR.

yup thats the one LOLOLOL

[gentle rapids]

I was wondering if there was an existing one made one cus I didn’t see it

[ornate magnet]

Arena with the opportunity to test your equipment - that would be great

[prime geode]

yea the search function on the suggestion site is kinda as usefull as the filters in the trade, they function but could be done way better. Like I want to search for wearable slots not specific gear.

[gentle rapids]

I just need to practice my dog ass aim with franciscas lol but yeah just a general no risk area to fuck around would be nice

[split vessel]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486690/big-gold-pouch add a larger "bag of holding"-esque gold pouch

[crisp hatch]

Rare gold sacks would be dope

But not buyable. Has to be found in gold key room

[boreal rivet]

how do we get ***** banned. he keeps going into vc and saying racist and homophobic things then leaving...also keep hearing stories of him changing his name and tk'ing groups he meets in here for gearsets.

[civic yoke]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/483658/multiple-audio-output-device-support nice little feature for content creators

[timid palm]

why the fuck does the bola guy hit you even when you're fucking on the left side or behind him I'd like to see anyone throw a bola from that fucking body position like why did you allow the giant centipede which is a semi boss get beat by running around it? yet you won't allow it for archers or bola guys, it really pisses me off when a bola guy throws a fucking bola through his own fucking head @keen onyx

[young spade]

bring the high roll fees again, there is none serious fights going on the high roll at the moment as i'm geared. I'm killing like 300-400gold geared people

[near gorge]

cleric should use spells from their maces not a staff

[timid palm]

or when an archer shoots an arrow behind them that's coming out of a bow that's aiming in the fucking other direction

[prime geode]

yea they can do that when they remove all the geared people from the normal dungeon. Otherwise might aswell just go into HR Naked and make money, at least when you die to the geared squad it doesnt feel like bullshit.

[young spade]

as my experience i lost my excitement to this game after that patch. There is no point to go high roller and loot. Why would i go to loot when i'm already geared? i was happy to do pvp when there was fees. You are talking about the noob geared people killing normal players

[nocturne vapor]

I'm sure they don't want to keep new players from their game, hopefully they add a gear cap to normals or whatever

[subtle blade]

@ me when they remove trap or atleast fix it to a balanced state

[young spade]

excality i'm talking about this. I don't want to kill these players. I'm looking for experienced players against my enemies to loot and fights with them.

[nocturne vapor]

The current situation in the game is just going to encourage ar-ehm-tee

[prime geode]

its not about experiance or skill, its 95% just gear. I can be the best pvp god but it doesnt matter when you get 1/2 tapped by blue and green man with jewelry and capes. I get the desire for pvp, if you really want that then just go naked and bum rush people while they are fighting their first room. But fees just brought way more geared people to the normal dungeon and not into HR. They could have fixed this with a simple gear check and waive the fee for geared players or teams, incentivizing them to wear some gear and go pvp, loot, or enter hell.

[young spade]

In my lobby you won't be survive 5 second, i don't want noobs against my enemies. This is my problem not yours. I want stronger eneimes against me to get better loot. Why would i spent few hours to get like few items since i can kill 1 person and get big items.

Also when the fees went to 0, all geared people is disappear in my lobby. So whats going to be happen to fix my problem? do you have any suggestion?

In few weeks you are going to be the good player too, and you will look for to fight against geared people. But you won't find any people geared people in your lobby to fight with it. You will lost your exciment too, alright?

[prime geode]

okay well enjoy your geared running of normals and ruining the game experiance for alot of the community. Remember a person with ALL GREENS has +11 INSTANCES OF STAT CHANGES. Meaning you are at a massive disadvantage in whites or below, and the possiblity of killing that better geared gamer are 5%.

[young spade]

Fix my problem bro

I'm looking for to fight with against geared people in high roll, what are you talking about? " your geared running of normals and ruining the game experiance for alot of the community" ????

[prime geode]

BRO thinks that because people are know how the games works and how much the gear actually play into it, while you just want to pubstomp and use the guise of "fight equal geared players"

[young spade]

This is not the person you are talking about. I don't care about your problem. I'm suggestion to my problem whats going on after new patch.

[prime geode]

I am telling you your answer they are all in normals you degen

[pearl plume]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486708/party-restrictions

[young spade]

Geared people in the normal games atm?

[prime geode]

EVERY FCKN LOBBY

[young spade]

Oh well then the game goes to bad

[nocturne vapor]

just wipe it again

[unique barn]

Cosmetic Suggestion: A cosmetic option that would show how much gold you own, displayed in the background of the lobby, the more gold you have in your stash the bigger the gold pile behind you gets.

[gentle rapids]

Maybe when the game comes out chief

[livid mesa]

BUFF CHEATERS

[lethal trail]

why do clerics get a reskinned lightning strike

[brave notch]

Melee combat is unsatisfactory. Imo maybe getting hit needs to slow the enemy harder or something.

[gentle rapids]

Just cus, at least the damage isn’t the same

[gentle rapids]

nononononononono weapons slow enough

[brave notch]

Idk I just keep seeing if it comes down to a 1v2 let’s say the 1 is a fighter or a Barbarion. The 2 has one of them poke him with a bow or curse of pain while the other steps up and falls back based on who he goes after. And he just gets juggled. I’ve been on both sides of this and maybe I’m bad but I don’t know how you logistically win that. And it’s also unfun

[gentle rapids]

Well 2v1 is already a losing fight unless you can nuke one of them, it sucks ass that people can just run away but increasing weapon slow is not the way

[woven marsh]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486725/swap-wanderers-luck-and-jokester

[woven marsh]

Are you high? Or is this a troll post? The weapon slow is already outrageous.

[unkempt flax]

Minor gripe.. but I think stash organizing would be a lot less annoying if you could swap spaces. Right now if you want pouches up top you have to move all the potions/bandages/etc out of the way first.

[woeful vortex]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486727/possible-solution-to-slow-progression-and-improve-gear-disparity

Put some thought into this one, would appreciate opinions

[gray vault]

add 4 player

[brisk spindle]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486738/add-a-death-log could you guys upvote this if you agree? I think it could be a good idea :)

[brave notch]

I’m serious in my experience rogues who x key are able to still escape the final swing of my combo despite me landing the first two hits. Maybe they had some cracked agility but it’s kinda wack

[supple crater]

REMOVE THE FUCKING SPIDERS

Bouncing on spiders and you can't move anywhere until you die is great game design

[brisk spindle]

Perks are swapped between characters like that because they will probably add in a future a perk tree when you can learn perks from other classes

[brisk spindle]

just press S and hit them

[supple crater]

most anticipated reply ever

[woeful vortex]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486727/possible-solution-to-slow-progression-and-improve-gear-disparity

any opinions on htis?

[brisk spindle]

I am not sure if it would solve that problem so I will stay neutral fn

[woven marsh]

It’s pretty good. I think this in conjunction with gear limits in normals vs HR would be great, and go a long way to disrupt the Pareto Distribution that is really significant in the game right now.

[woeful vortex]

I don't think the gear limits would be needed, there would be nothing to gain for any fully geared team going into normals, unless they came across other fully geared teams to take things from. Green only, Blues for killing the bosses. Or go highroller and get blues easily and possibly better gear. It would remove a lot of incentive to going normal. The a-holes would always do it but I would always prefer a method of discouragement to just outright prevention.

[gentle rapids]

GBMM is bad for the game

[ashen summit]

Skill issue

[karmic pulsar]

Please for the love of god make cleric either faster OR do a bit more damage he’s such a dookie class as a solo only good as a team mate healer but he’s always in back getting the junk loot and every other character loots and moves faster than him he’s just healing the boys. Please I like him but can’t run goblin caves as good he always get smoked by anyone with range weapons. 🫡

[ashen summit]

Also skill issue

[karmic pulsar]

Nope you just play cheap broken ranger don’t ya lol

[ashen summit]

Play cleric but ok

[karmic pulsar]

No you don’t

[ashen summit]

15 cleric rogue and lock

[karmic pulsar]

Okay so your not max level your not a real cleric don’t wanna hear anything from you. Rogue is so easy can just turn off brain and fight same with warlock you can cheese every hell boss

[ashen summit]

15 is all perks it’s max

[karmic pulsar]

My point is cleric can’t do work solo he needs help, and he moves and loots way to slow like a 87 year old man

[ashen summit]

You take +5 healing blunt dmg and 2 armor perks go smite and spell

[brisk spindle]

Could you check that? https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486738/add-a-death-log

[old depot]

Morale Boost could apply to all killed target, but take it down to 5-8%.

[woven marsh]

No what I mean is making it so you can’t equip blues and above outside of HR’s, or in Hell. As it stand now, streamers and the like can just go into normals in full blues and purples and there is usually only 1 team like that in a match. Mobs are normal, so they aren’t really a threat. So the only real risk is going red. Restricting gear in normals would put everyone on a more even playing field, and keep one team from dominating every lobby they go into.

[woeful vortex]

I know what you mean, but at the moment there's a value in doing that from either fighting bosses or hell enemies, chests especially with luck+bad can get you purples EASY in normal, and there's no risk as mobs are easy like you say, and there are no teams that are a real threat. If you change loot pools so that there's blue max in normal, from bosses only really. There is nothing for them to gain, it would at least reduce the number of people doing it. I don't like the idea of GBMM or restrictions to gear, it should be a last resort if anything.

[ashen summit]

Ngl I wiped 2 full blue/purple teams as a base kit warlock before so I do t tho k it’s a gear issue in the sense you’re talking about…. Skill issue

[regal heron]

Gold bars valued at 500 gold exchangeable via The Treasurer. 2x2 Item same as bars of cobalt ext.

[woven marsh]

That’s not a BAD idea, but I think a side effect would be that it would restrict people being able to find gear that would empower them to start doing HRs and Hell runs.

[stable moon]

Please can we get updates/downtime on a sensible time that is not peak time.

[woeful vortex]

They would be able to get full green gear from normal without fighting bosses, bosses giving blue for those who put in the work without having to go HR for it, once you have some green sets going you can use them to progress into HR. There is also the trade available to acquire gear, making money might be more worthwhile as you would be able to sell more of the green equipment for more.

[lone crescent]

Still no Ranger nerf and still no fix for traps skill check

[bleak dagger]

nice +3 all was a mistake from the beginning

[woeful vortex]

I could also see a level limit on gear working, so you can't equip certain quality until you reach lvl caps.

If we go down the route of gear limits for normal, we get an issue of min maxing where players will be buying the best possible green gear for huge prices to go and stomp everyone just the same

[stable moon]

Please can we get updates/downtime on a sensible time that is not peak time.

[arctic lagoon]

they removed trap skill checks??

[somber iron]

does anyone think 'alt looking' should be in this game?

[lone crescent]

This happened to me today (my clip) https://youtu.be/6q3-dM7e9Tc?feature=shared

[arctic lagoon]

ohhhhh, thats for removing it, not for when it hits you

[stable moon]

Please can we get updates/downtime on a sensible time that is not peak time.

[lone crescent]

I died once cause i missed the skill check while i was trapped

[arctic lagoon]

they full removed skill check when hit by traps, it was from a bit ago

[lone crescent]

Yeah but i still got the skill check even while I'm trapped sometimes and I'm not alone

[sand breach]

I think all stats should be nerfed to +1, why build anything apart from all stats right now?

[lone crescent]

It happened only on Barbarian tho, maybe only with low interaction speed

[arctic lagoon]

the skill check thing should def be reworked, its WAY too fast also it shouldnt eat my lockpicks if i cancel it

[toxic oar]

Free HR has been a blast - back to dead lobbies and 5 minute queues

[lilac silo]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486758/communicate-attribute-bonus-ratio-ingame

[soft finch]

Run judgement and smite, you can outfight barbarians with a tiny bit of dodging

[somber iron]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486760/alt-looking-or-head-look take a look and let me know your thoughts

[indigo grail]

make the swarm close in slower in the goblin caves, it feels like i have no time to move or fight

[glacial solar]

really need to pull your head out of your ass ironmace. The All atty adjustment is hot garbage. literally removing fun from the game patch after patch

[vernal lotus]

It’s early access they’re trying to make it the best version it’s kinda makes sense early access would have bad things so they can change them

[ashen summit]

Yo yea

[untold stream]

it makes sense to see lots of changes on early access, but its not when the changes go against the core idea of the game
not refering to this patch tho

[somber iron]

lets gooo scroll down a bit i made a suggestion ticket on the website go vote!

[ashen summit]

We bouta be playing dnd rust

[lilac silo]

idk how it's "removing fun", it's just adding build variety
+3 (and even +2) all is so overpowered that if you're NOT stacking it on every piece of gear, you're doing it wrong. +10/+15 points of total attributes is so valuable, and you could get that on several slots, why would you ever take +3 STR over +2 All?
now you actually gotta choose between +2/3 of a single attribute you care about, or +1 all
more interesting decisionmaking tbh

[gentle rapids]

Well said but kinda pointless cus that shit was clearly bait

[earnest osprey]

Hey Iron Mace! Is there anyway we can stop changing metas every week? I would like to play out and build towards metas. But everything changes every single week. And if we are going to put a patch out every single week. Can we at least do it at down peak hours? Instead of peak hours? Thank you for reading and hearing me out.

[gentle rapids]

Idk what you mean? The cleric bard X (tank of choice) meta hasn’t changed

[graceful sleet]

frt

[earnest osprey]

I didnt come here to argue with people about views and wants. I came here to suggest. Argue with a wall bro im out.

[grizzled token]

ban the people who team in goblin caves

[cursive pine]

maybe dont do a game update at 3pm every fucking monday!???

[grizzled token]

tired of getting killed by a minimum of 2 super geared people working in tandem regardless of HR or regular

[lost dune]

https://youtu.be/R1AZvZ5DrZY?si=yuhuyUZL_0OzgAyB
Should limit gear during raids. Or at the very least limit blue and purple above from normals. Isn't as fun for an average player or new player, there is no outplay. We have to stop gatekeeping if we want the game to thrive.

[indigo grail]

why wouldnt they? mondeys are typically a unplayed day everywhere

[grizzled token]

like, good job guys, you killed the wizard in starting kit and didn't even loot the blue sellables he had amassed before your cowardly teamwork in a SOLO mode

ban everyone who does this

[low charm]

I have been saying this ever since starting on play test #3:

[quick aurora]

+3 all is a nerf to wizards for all classes. Will gives magical resis so everyone having will from the +1 +2, and +3 was a great way to nerf wizards for geared players. no one wants to get will on a class it doesn't help. +all gear was a great way to help people with magical resis. Don't take that way

[stable moon]

Can we get updates/downtime on not peak times.

[zealous silo]

stop nerf wiz , it's dumb af, everybdo complaining bout rogues and rangers, but wiz going to the ground wtf, stop advantage the braindead classes

[graceful sleet]

wiz going to the ground. right. my homie 2 shot a 75 reduc fighter. right

[gentle rapids]

It’s two spells chief chill

[indigo grail]

this is facts the wizard needs a buff not a nerf, if any class needs a nerf it should be the rouge with their broken amounts of speed and stacked damage

[zealous silo]

fighter weakness is magic ...

u wont 2 tap a barbarian for exemple

[graceful sleet]

no shit weakness is magic but think about that rq being 2 shot in less than 5 seconds

[cursive pine]

because every other major game developer figured it out. do that shit at 5am not broad daylight

[austere bramble]

+3 ALL STATS only on chest and pants. anything else only +1

[indigo grail]

i could see that shit, but it happens different times for different time zones for me its at 12

[low charm]

Can ironmace implement some sort of gear-score based MMR in normal dungeon lobbies? for obvious reasons this should not affect HR lobbies becaues that is the risk you take when you pay the ante. However it is so infuriating to watch a squad of 3 who are rocking full purple kits steamroll their way through a normal lobby filled with people who are trying to lvl alts/starting the game.

The problem i have with this is the game seems to be designed where skill can be offset by gear and at some point no amount of skill will be able to bridge the gap between fully geared teams who aren't there for any reason other than to descimate the lobby. HR lobbies are there for that exact reason. And with the reduced price of the ante a lot of undergeared players are going in. So as a long time player of this game I don't see why something like this has not been implemented yet.

[vestal ore]

If y'all are interested, take a peek at my newly added suggestion. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486787/potential-working-idea-for-spell-scaling-with-attributes

[lost dune]

@low charm facts

[glacial sphinx]

thought about something like that but its also pretty restrictive, spells have very different properties and the scaling should differ based on that, even though they may be of the same level

[low charm]

this is how it used to be and the consensus among streamers and high lvl players is that this was the better option

[quick aurora]

The game was in a great place with the high roller and +all I hope they see that with this. I think this change is only going to make wizards stronger as a wizard main. don't hard nerf wizard hard without bring +3 all or +2 all back

[granite plinth]

honestly, this 'patch' does not look like its worth the 2 hour down time.
just got off of work and now i cant play today because graysun really wants that new loading image.

[vestal ore]

True. I just hope we dont end up in a situation where you have to scroll through a massive wiki page just to understand how each and every spell scales differently

it literally changes nothing if you have the single brain cell required to use a keyboard and switch off what you need. It only saves time, and doesn't hurt anything. How did you even reach this consensus?

[solemn needle]

how is this? There is the item comsumption timer 🤔

[prime geode]

they are throwing axes, knives and firebombs

[granite plinth]

putting stuff away slows you down a lot

[glacial sphinx]

yeah imo the real problem is just the amount of added damage, I have suggested before removing it from all pieces except weapon and jewelry. Because percentage scaling is much easier as it just leaves spells relatively the same in accordance with their base value

[sonic axle]

15g ante for high roller not 50

[solemn needle]

True but still you need to hit them.... is skill issue (just like spells) is true that if they hit.... you are screwed

[vestal ore]

patchnotes is on a whole other plane of existance bro what is blud waffling about 💀

[solemn needle]

[prime geode]

this change just made them faster at throwing them. More chances of getting those hits and chasing that naked timmy while you run them down with that cape and jewelry

[low charm]

i may be mistaken but i dont think consumables have a movement speed reduction unless you use them (other than weapons like knives, axes, lanterns)

[woven marsh]

Well last night I came up behind a geared Rogue and smacked him 4-5 times in the back of the head with a Kris and rupture only for him to turn around and 2 shot me with his Kris. So while I appreciate your anecdote about how great you are at the game, yours is an atypical experience. If you go into a few lobbies and get killed right away so you can follow the geared players, you’re going to watch them stomp lobbies 9 times out of 10.

[granite plinth]

bro, switching or putting away utilities slows you down a lot. patchnotes is absolutely right in saying this is gonna screw over anyone that tries to run while downing a pot

[solemn needle]

very fair point -

[woven marsh]

Nope.

[vestal ore]

if you are already pulling out the consumable to use it, are you not slowing yourself down in the first place?
The way I see it. If you need to run away or keep distance, I wouldnt be wasting time to pull out a consumable. Does this system not already punish people for trying to use utilities out of position? I dont see how it really is going to end up affecting things to a significant degree. we'll just have to wait and see

just because I dont see it now, doesn't mean im saying it wont, nor am I arguing. Just sharing what I think

[woven marsh]

Lol. Nope.

[prime geode]

anyone telling other players what THEY EXPERIANCED needs to have their account deleted

thinking that geared gamers taking 5-6 hits to the head and turning and 1/2 shotting the attacker has not played this game, or is a cheater avoiding the chads.

[vagrant root]

More needs to be done about teaming in the goblin caves.

[quick aurora]

+3 all is a nerf to wizards for all classes. Will gives magical resis so everyone having will from the +1 +2, and +3 was a great way to nerf wizards for geared players. no one wants to get will on a class it doesn't help. +all gear was a great way to help people with magical resis. The game was in a great place with the high roller and +all I hope they see that with this. I think this change is only going to make wizards stronger as a wizard main. don't hard nerf wizard hard without bring +3 all or +2 all back

[low charm]

but how do you prove that it wasnt a natural teaming experience or premeditated?

[ebon sleet]

Some kind of larger gold bag would be really dope, make it crafted from ruby powder take up a 2x2 slot and its hold 250 gold

[vagrant root]

we get it you can't win a 1v1

[vestal ore]

+3 was definitely too much, if it was locked behind a specific gear rarity, that would be better. but as it was, +3 was just busted irregardless

[hoary dew]

Absolutely

[hidden thicket]

I think including the Timezone for the patch time would help a lot

[quick aurora]

they need to add another way for people to get magical resis then. a geared player should be able to

[vestal ore]

when will ironmace fix the stat debuff duration. It literally makes bad effects last longer on you. Proven by clerics perk that lowers his debuff times. the stat just makes life worse for whoever has it equipped

[sinful anvil]

Can we get an updated "Known Bugs" please?!

I feel like my friends and I have been reporting the "THRUST" bug on rogues for weeks, since it was broken 2 patches ago.

[lost dune]

Yeah I agree with u. Hars to believe he killed TWO with base warlock unless those 2 were fighting each other and 3rd party them. On a full warlock vs 3 purple team it's very hard to believe with outplay. That's like me saying I played barbian base kit against 3 purple archers and killed them all 🤷‍♂️ which we all know is very hard to believe

[vestal ore]

100%, magic is in a tough spot rn

[woven marsh]

You know how I know you’re wrong? When you look at his gear and see +50% physical power with and extra 10 weapon damage, 120HP, and 30%+ PDR you get raw data that indicates the exact reason why the event occurred.

[quick aurora]

a person should have to not have as much damage to get more magical resis. magic resis is the problem.

[prime geode]

wheres your fckn yt with your 6k gold you shitter

[lost dune]

😇 just gonna have to believe me

[prime geode]

oh thats right you dont got those clips you hypocritical dickrider

[vestal ore]

I agree. They have to be careful though. One slight overtune, and magic-damage classes & items become useless. Currently, they are definitely way too useful, at least with medium to chad gearsets. I find low gear magic to be tolerable at the moment

[low charm]

it would be significantly more believable if you said "i killed 2 of 3 in a full purple squad" but to outright claim you killed 2 parties of 3 with a base kit warlock its so outrageous that THAT would make you an outlier and any input you give does not apply to the masses

[vagrant root]

No

[quick aurora]

I think after you get passed a point in damage you need to get resis or hp. Any ranger trying to max their dps and have no resis or hp should get 2. shot killed.

[low charm]

this is a bad take. one of the advantages of drawing out a fight with a wizard is eventually they run out of spells. if they can spam fireball over and over again will be the most toxic atmosphere and everyone will run wizard fireball spam

[vagrant root]

Clip or it didn't happen

[low charm]

can you give examples?

[prime geode]

where are you clips patchnotes?

[quick aurora]

you need to get survivabiyty after you do so much dps. everyone just wants dps. if you can 1 shot a wizard as a rangers. if that wizard gets next to you he should 2 hit you in mid ranger if he is geared

[prime geode]

any idiot can tell you pacing and downtime are required game mechanics to any pvp game

[low charm]

so you think wizards should just be able to unlimitedly spam spells constantly? thats outrageous lol maybe increase the quantity of spells like zap/haste/invis/ice bolt. but not unlimited spells like fireball/chainlightning

[prime geode]

I have the best Idea, Ban Patchnotes from playing DaD. All problems solved.

[quick aurora]

a wizard should only use spells in pvp or with high teir mods

[royal patrol]

I've got a lot of hours in on ranger and one thing that I would like to see is starting gear that matches my skill perks. IE. If I select a spear/crossbow build, there could be a starter vendor that I can buy the lowest tier spear and c-bow for zero gold.

[low charm]

exactly! you have to take time to use a consumable and it does not refresh all of your spells which gives enemy players time to advance/or retreat

[granite plinth]

🅰️ 🇳 🇹 🇮 🇬 🇴 🇱 🇩 🇰 🇪 🇾 🇭 🇴 🅰️ 🇷 🇩 🇮 🇳 🇬 https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486483/old-rusty-key-comeback Basically bring back old rusty key treasure hoard but is absolutely lesser chance of getting high quality loots and reduce the number of looting loot piles!

[low charm]

we could discuss subclasses or choosing your starter kit

[woven marsh]

The game is based on Dungeons and Dragons, not Call of Duty.

[prime geode]

someone has a hard time finding basic shit dont they patchy

[low charm]

well your suggestions are exclusively based on a pvp orientation of gameplay. thats not what this rpg is aiming for

[woven marsh]

You should just learn to code, then you can make the exact game you want to make yourself feel good.

[low charm]

"good" is subjective. but if you dont like that state of the game you dont have to play until they utilize the mechanics that you are looking for

[quick aurora]

I love how they are just testing stuff all they time. Their is going to be another wipe in like 2 weeks watch

[low charm]

no they expressed that the last wipe was shorter than all future wipes will be so i expect another month out of this run at least

[low charm]

i think the preemptively wiped the last time because they wanted to make significant balance changes and they needed to have a clean sheet in order to see a more acurate representation of their changes

[quick aurora]

Not with how much they are changing gear

[royal patrol]

Subclasses could work but might be complex to appease the diversity of weapons available. I think others have suggested a starter vendor with all the weapons based on your class. This is likely the easiest to implement. Much like the "service" option on certain merchants.

[low charm]

you might have a point

[quick aurora]

Not with how much they are changing gear

[slate tartan]

They said they will be wiping frequently until s1, they did not say this

[quiet narwhal]

I suggest you add the loot containers name at the top of what you’re looting. They all say “treasure chest”

[low charm]

Early Access Wipe #1
Hi @everyone, The Early Access Wipe #1 Update will commence at <t:1693245600>. 
When the patch starts, you will not be able to login to the game and players in-game will not be able to enter the matchmaking pool during this time. Players in a match or in-game will have 30 minutes to complete the match and exit safely.  The servers will return to full service 2 hours 3 hours after the start of the patch.

All character levels, items, gold, and skills have been reset. This first wipe occurred much sooner than we expected due to challenges we faced from exploiters. We have learned from this experience and have updated the game and our services to be more robust against these adversaries. In the future, it is our hope to have more time between the Early Access wipes and to give more ample notification.

[low charm]

"more time between Early Access wipes"

[slate tartan]

Read the next paragraph

[quasi belfry]

How does everyone feel about HR Solos 25g and HR crypt 50g?

[low charm]

We also want to let you know how we plan to use this Early Access period going forward. We will be doing frequent balance updates during the upcoming weeks as we adapt and learn from your feedback. We hope that together we can find the right sweet spot in supporting multiple paths of having fun.

[low charm]

"balance updates" not wipes

[low charm]

i dont think the cost really is an issue. 50g isnt hard to come by its the gear that limits most in playing HR solo or otherwise. imo changing the cost for solo players doesnt really do anything. now i think that having a system in which if you get out of HR lobbies you share the pot of gold would be interesting but idk how they would implement that

[quartz pasture]

Suggestion to try and give players a more equal footing place to start / train. Basically just a gear capped low loot dungeon. Please consider voting on the site 🙂

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486672/training-dungeon-lower-tier-drops-limit-gear-to-gray-max-for-dungeon-variant

[quasi belfry]

cost def does something as if its free theres 0 reason to play normals, and with 50g lots of geared players are slightly decentivised to play hr bottle necking the normal dungeons with higher geared players

[vestal ore]

My opinion is to keep HR free but locked with power level. Like needs 500 Item power to enter. Gray equipment values 20 item power, Blue values 100 item power and so on

[small furnace]

So did we not like HR being free? I see no explanation for why they set it back. I thought most people (including geared people) seemed to agree that HR being free was a good thing.

[quasi belfry]

this is dumb and convoluted

[quasi belfry]

I think free hr wasn't bad, but again it makes being lvl 15 the lvl to contest in a pvp setting

[low charm]

yes free is different than 25 or 50. youre absolutely right in the free HR lobbies was an issue. it meant that risking your HR gear was fruitless when the majority of the lobby was naked because it was free

[brittle bronze]

Quick opinion from an M.S. in Psychology that works as a mental health provider at a correctional facility: Regarding desired behavior change - it is far more effective to focus on incentivizing desirable behavior rather than disincentivizing undesirable behavior

[vestal ore]

Thats why either power level lock or 25g enter

[low charm]

i think we flip this. no gear limit on HR but cant be above a certain gear score for normals

[small furnace]

That's always the case. I feel terrible playing any class if I'm not level 15 lol. It's why I hated the fact that levels got wiped.

[quasi belfry]

uh..ok

[low charm]

bringing politics into a video game... classy

[vestal ore]

Yeap agreed. Locking minimum gear lvl to enter HR so nakeds cant enter and locking Max gear lvl so full tunned players cant enter normal mode

[quasi belfry]

That wouldn't be bad

[quartz pasture]

If you guys scroll up to view my suggestion I posted a moment ago gear capped dungeon was literally what it was abt 🙂

[low charm]

i think the gold pot of HR lobbies would fix a lot of the downside of having naked running around in HR lobbies. also it would incentivize pvp in HR because the less teams get out the more your share of the gold pot would be

[sweet creek]

Fighter starting kit should include a grey crossbow
Wizard haste and invis should only have 2 stacks a piece
Protection potions should block magic damage as well as physical
ALL keys should drop at significantly higher rates, people are only using them as stores of value now and not to actually open anything with because its not profitable in the slightest
Bards should not be able to open gold chests with their songs
All classes should default loadout include a health pot and a bandage

[vestal ore]

And still free HR entrance of course

[maiden oak]

Add Belts, different types determine set amount of slots where you can put additional utility items. theyll have armor rating like the capes, and stats to add determined by quality as well.

[river sparrow]

Add a golden bar for 100/200g that u can buy/sell on Treasurer and change it with people

[vestal ore]

Its a good suggestion tho. In my opinion it would "solve" the HR player base a bit. Of course they needed to test that first

[subtle gull]

Do you guys feel like ranger should be nerfed or reworked? If so how?

[sweet creek]

this is a good idea, or a chest you can store in your inventory that stores a lot of gold

[low charm]

i just think the naked aspect of HR isnt really an issue if there is a reward for getting out other than keeping your loot. whats the point of the ante if the gold goes to nothing? you know?

[subtle gull]

@main maple I like that idea

[maiden oak]

make chests you can craft with rubysilver or cobalt that can store different types of equipment in your stash.

[vernal hedge]

trap should be trigerable be attacking, shooting or throwables
maybe even if when triggered itll apply the full dot but you can just attack it to destroy it instead of interacting

[vestal ore]

But letting nakeds enter the HR makes the normal dungeon with less player base

[low charm]

tell me youre a wizard main without telling me youre a wizard main lol

[sweet creek]

right, rangers are really the only answer to wizards right now, i dont want to see wizards get any more out of control than they are right now in HR lobbies

[low charm]

but they have to pay an ante which over time will cost them significantly

[vestal ore]

GIVE THEM STEALTH ABILITY !!!!

[vestal ore]

Right yeah makes sense

[sweet creek]

give them magic too, fuck it

[vernal hedge]

and a pet wolf

[vestal ore]

Magic is not for Ranger. GIVE THEM ALL SORT OF HACKS but no magic pls

[sweet creek]

rangers should be able to fly i think

[vernal hedge]

improved vision would be an actually pretty cool one

[maiden oak]

poison tip arrows maybe? might make the survival bow reasonable again

[vestal ore]

The pet wolf would be awesome tho

[sweet creek]

for 10 seconds

[low charm]

rangers having a mark ability wouldnt be bad. giving them stealth would be WAY too strong. and i think all classes should have a sprint option

[vernal hedge]

would be cool if with druid or a class we eventually get someone with a pet/companion/summon

[quasi belfry]

I don't think any class should have sprint lol

[sweet creek]

hell yeah rogues with sprint would be sick

[wicked berry]

I feel like you can have +3 all, just make that the cap you can receive from +All type enchantments. so you can get +3 all on 1 item or +1 all on 3 items. after that it doesnt benefit

[low charm]

why not?

[vestal ore]

Rogue cant have sprint tho ahahha way to fast to outrun them

[maiden oak]

was hoping to see a necromancer class, would be cool to be able to res mobs you cleared and have them fight on your side for like, 30 seconds or something

[quasi belfry]

Mobs wont have any lethality. You can pretty much kite them as is, +it would just be a sprint off to start every duel much like ivis off vs rogues

[vestal ore]

As long they dont make the pets overpowered would be nice

[vernal hedge]

or use this has a good time to get data on how people react to a nerf like this mid wipe that leaves legacy items

[vernal hedge]

would be hard to have it be balanced in goblin caves im guessing but who knows, maybe make it extra squsihy vs players

[vestal ore]

Now you try to buy a +3 all item you pay 10 Keys 5 unique named item and a kidney @vernal hedge

[wicked berry]

yes however i mean over all for game play balance. +1 is pretty big in this environment. so having a cap prevents the stacking up to obscene numbers

[subtle summit]

they can which is why they did it. For data.

[sinful anvil]

🇵 🇱 🇪 🇦 🇸 🇪 🔴 🇫 🇮 🇽 🔴 🇹 🇭 🇷 🇺 🇸 🇹 The ROGUE Passive "-15% damage reduction when attacking" was broken 2 patches ago and now ONLY applies to dagger weapons - Please update the tooltip to reflect this if it was intended / add to your patch notes that you gutted this passive on purpose!
Try it yourself: Equip dagger + Thrust passive --> Swing weapon and watch the "Thrust" Buff appear + the -15% penetration ---> Now, repeat the same process with a rapier - you'll notice that it DOES NOT apply. I have shadowplay replays that show that this WAS working correctly at LEAST 2 patches ago and was either shadow nerfed or broken by accident!

[subtle summit]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/479719/barbarian-perksskills-need-rework
anyways, this is still relevant 4 patches later lol

[low charm]

if you can already kite mobs the ability to sprint wouldnt change anything in regards to mobs. the sprint in my mind would be dictated by stamina which in turn would be dictated by armor weight. this means that fighters in full plate armor cant sprint like a rogue/ranger/wizard (who need the ability to disengage) and classes like barbarian have a means to catch all the squishy classes

[maiden oak]

update the game, just got the notification.

[woeful vortex]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486727/possible-solution-to-slow-progression-and-improve-gear-disparity

could be a good way to slow down gear progress and get more value added to all tiers

[vernal hedge]

I regret in the 2 I sold
@wicked berry in the context of the nerf now I guess it's arguable, but in a normal wipe with +1 being the max, items with good rolls of other stats will be expensive so I think they should let it be has organic has possible and not cap it has it would require high investment, and we wont see bards with 150hp anymore anyways

[wind leaf]

agree, i feel like they refuse to think and just let the playerbase decide on changes + they break the market constantly themselves

[pine comet]

We are sprinting, our normal movement is us sprinting, if you press shift you start walking though

[trail mulch]

i feel like now that HR has a fee again that we will see more blue/purple geared palyers in low games again and i think thats ruining the fun IMO if you run into teams that you literally cant do anything against

[coral ice]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486442/3-man-portals

[low charm]

i disagree. now that HR has a fee we will see less geared players in normal lobbies. the patches before proved that this was the case. you seldom had kitted teams running in normals because HR had a reason to pvp. you were almost guaranteed good gear off pvp kills. now you have so many nakeds running around in HR the consensus seems to be that you might as well steamroll a lobby of alts rather than risk losing your gear to a lobby full of nakeds

[sinful anvil]

I honestly think that now more people (myself included) can see the value of running High Roller - as a rogue - I was able to profit about 250-300 a run - easily - 500-1000 with luck potion and some good sellables - I think we'll see MORE people running HR in general now because they've had a chance to dip their toes in and learn the map / mobs and how to profit!

[low charm]

thats currently the state of the game right now tho...

[sinful anvil]

I played roughly 12 hours yesterday helping my noob friends level and 80% of the norms lobbies were being dominated by all purples - So your argument is moot here.

Lying? I was one of those people in all purples lol

They're not level 15 yet so obviously I'm going to que with them in my good gear to help carry them.

[low charm]

facts. i literally played 13 hours yesterday off and on and had MAYBE 5-10 runs where there wasnt a fully geared squad steamrolling the lobby. this is a serious problem. and ignore PatchNotes they have been trolling conversations for the past hour and a half

[trail mulch]

way to many people have gearfear and dont want to take the extra risk of running into other high geared players, so i honestly think having a fee again, be it "only" 50g, will bring alot back into default lobbies with no/low geared players just to get the adrenalin rush of killing others even if the other people had 0 chance anyways. atleast that was my entire experience before the 0g fee was in the game. i ran into blue/purples almost every game in crypts OR they should add a hell queue for a fee instead of having HR have fee

[sinful anvil]

Yea, I've been watching - it doesn't really matter what he types at the end of the day, the people who are actually playing the game know whats up

[gentle rapids]

That’s nice 🙂 👍

[jagged flicker]

Can y'all upvote this for me? They updated the elf girl to a new look, but I paid for the old one;

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486846/add-classic-elf-girl-to-the-store

[gentle rapids]

What did they do?

[jagged flicker]

looks different, just want the option for the old look.

[gentle rapids]

Pics? Like how is it different

[sinful anvil]

12 hours was actually an understatement, I think I played from 8am until 3am last night - my eyes are still red.

[low charm]

he did not claim that. he didnt even say that he lost or won. he just claimed that he had good gear and brought it to help his buddies. didnt say if it worked or not

[sinful anvil]

Exactly - and lost that gear I did - many times - to groups of fully geared double fighter/cleric in purples! haha

@low charm we now know his "Agenda" as per that comment.. he's butt hurt - simple as that - likely a HR rat!

We call those "Circle huggers"

[gentle rapids]

Salty about the ante going back up to 50g?

[low charm]

@sinful anvil facts

clip it or it didnt happen

[sinful anvil]

It would be too hard to see the clip as he lives in the darkness praying to stumble on a blue

[trail mulch]

all i did was trying to get gear. im by no means a good player, but so far i played to level 17 with friends, be it duo or trio, but we constantly spawned either next to a 3 team or ran into a blue/purple team pre 0fee HR. i literally just talked from my personal experience when i mentioned my worries about HR fees returning

[gentle rapids]

Well the game is called dark and darker can’t really blame the rats for hiding in the pitch blackness

[sinful anvil]

You're correct, there's absolutely nothing wrong with circle hugging.

[quasi belfry]

nah fr must be fun playing 10 hrs a day lmao

[sinful anvil]

clips or it didn't happen 😉 hahaha

[quasi belfry]

Why would i be jealous when ill live past 50 lul

[sinful anvil]

Show us your "epic" game play!!! it must be entertaining if you're making the big bucks gaming!

I didn't realize that playing smoke bomb stealth skeleton rogue was so profitable in viewership

[jagged flicker]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486846/add-classic-elf-girl-to-the-store Can y'all upvote this for me? They changed the default Elf Girl skin we paid for, I just want the option for the old one available.

[sinful anvil]

(jk, perry is making a killing!)

[quasi belfry]

great link ty for that

[ruby ginkgo]

We need valentine back

[quasi belfry]

why we have keys

[jagged flicker]

appreciate the upvote if tru

[quasi belfry]

def upvoted

[gentle rapids]

What did they even change?

[glass galleon]

How did they change it?

[quasi belfry]

she doesn't call me "her cutey wootey roguey poguey'" anymore 😭

[low charm]

link that channel then. ill bet everything youre either a minor or an adult living with their parents and averaging 5 viewers a stream "i get paid to play video games" lol

[trail mulch]

a friend who only uses the female elf said that it had clipping issues, so that might be fixed now

[quasi belfry]

he's satire

[low charm]

oh 100% just playing their own game against them lol

[jagged flicker]

Oh uh, less blonde, rounder face. Different.

[languid spoke]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/485518/add-class-passives-and-enable-more-build-diversity

Add class passives and enable more build diversity:
Rogue - Lockpicking
Barbarian - Can break chests and doors
Fighter - Can equip all weapons (-% power for non-fighter specific)
Wizard - Rest is Meditation (maybe half as effective?)
Ranger - Detect recent footsteps / Enhanced hearing
Warlock - Small % Life steal vs. cursed targets
Cleric - Requiem (rez with higher hp/no cost) or Holy Aura (armor/magic res talent)
Bard - 50% faster swapping between weapons and utility items

[quasi belfry]

not as hot 😡

[jagged flicker]

I just want the cute one I paid for

[trail mulch]

cant tell if meming honestly

[quasi belfry]

i feel awful

[low charm]

facts! when we have players that are 300+lbs you arent being inclusive!

[jagged flicker]

Yeah loose trousers clipped funny

[graceful frost]

I like this. But something different for wizard and def the hearing for ranger

[low charm]

can we all agree that rogues need SILENT footsteps when invis? foot slapping on floors shouldnt even be a thing for that class lol

[jagged flicker]

I like the idea of nerfed class passives.

[languid spoke]

something like that would go a long way. tired of taking lockpicking on a rogue and taking 10 years to open chests as a barb

[tulip sundial]

Lmao @ all the sweaty nerds complaining about the female elf mode change instead of the broken game

That’s what needs to be fixed, and not all the other glaring issues

You know if you spent half as much effort actually talking to girls as you do complaining about the player models you’d actually pull some tail instead of sweating down here in the dungeon

[jagged flicker]

oshi im sorry was this not #suggestion-discussion

[sinful anvil]

Using "Creep" - If you test it with your buddies while not wearing shoes, you can literally be on top of them and they can't hear you! I feel like it's a pretty powerful passive choice at this point - though, I have a hard time giving up the "Thrust" -- "Dagger Mastery" combo (It still sounds like your feet are slappin to you, but not to anyone else!)

[frosty thicket]

Ive never crashed on any map except for ruins. 3 crashes in the 5 games ive played on it. I have hundreds of hours logged in the game, and have played ruins in past playtests. I don't know what changes were made to it but something is bricking my PC whenever I attempt to play on it.

[rigid cape]

Make Power of Sacrifice being able to cancel if put on self

[woven marsh]

I'm glad they brought in the duos mode, but ruins needs to be fixed. It is in a sad state. Latency issues, game crashes, etc. The invisible walls is also a shitty addition.

[nocturne vapor]

bring back the candy merchant

[real tide]

fix the trade system

[polar ferry]

Haven't run into these yet

[vivid lantern]

i wanna see a class like a jester where they have a bar of insanity and when it fills up it makes them take damage overtime, yet strengthens the higher it is. they control their insanity by doing little skits like juggling some balls or something of the sort

[stable moon]

Can we get updates outside of peak times

[polar ferry]

You'd die way to easily, like interesting concept but yeah you'd die way too easy

[polar ferry]

They're in South Korea it is out off peak time for them

[gentle rapids]

Nah his time zone is the only one you’re wrong

[polar ferry]

Damn my bad bro lol

[jagged flicker]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486846/add-classic-elf-girl-to-the-store Today they updated the Female Elf to it's current version. But I liked (and paid for) the old version. Could I get the old one as an option please? I can send comparison pic. Pls Upvote.

[gentle rapids]

All good just don’t make that mistake again 😤

[sour eagle]

Is anyone having issues updating the game?

[polar ferry]

You got it chief

[gentle rapids]

Then do pls idk what the change is

[sour eagle]

I click update an it just won't move stays at 0%

[jagged flicker]

cant post images here, sent u a picture of the comparison.

[gentle rapids]

Uh…

oh it was like, yeah I agree now that Ik what the diff is

[jagged flicker]

can't post images on the suggestion site either sadly.

[gentle rapids]

Nah I saw it all good 👍

[jagged flicker]

appreciate u

[gentle rapids]

It’s gonna be a tough change to see but she fugly now lol

[polar ferry]

Oh but now they're compatible with more clothing lol

[gentle rapids]

Im not sure what that means tbh

[polar ferry]

I've got no idea, only guess would be maybe less collisions with body parts

[gentle rapids]

What where they not compatible with before?

[polar ferry]

Yeah fk knows they never really elaborate on some of their patch notes

[stuck perch]

Such a thing would be impossible to balance properly and there's numerous players out there that prefer to play in games with people that have better loot than them. They consider a challenge with a nice payout but also it's not the presence of better geared players but rather the density of them which could be solved by reducing the number of players back to what the maps originally allowed 9 for gobo caves and 16 for crypts/ruins.

[gentle rapids]

Yeah some are vague af

[vivid lantern]

itll probably be like the warlock, its tough to manage without gear

[polar ferry]

Well I was more thinking when you're doing the things to drop the insanity, you're now defenseless

[polar ferry]

Wouldn't be impossible, you just give the option to play in open mmr

[zealous silo]

stop killing the game , now the purp+full geared cleric+bard are back in normal games, chasing every naked they see, BRING BACK FREE HIGH ROLLER FFS

[vernal lotus]

Bruh it’s early access and actively tested y’all gotta chill all these rough spots are for the overall health of the game

[vivid lantern]

mmr would be stupid, do you guys see any looter shooter extraction games with it?

[stuck perch]

It would be impossible to create a gear score system and balance so that it could be used in an effective MMR system. You're better off offering better incentives to players with good gear and also not making the maps so crowded with players that you keep tripping over over-geared players.

[polar ferry]

Oh no 100%, just saying not impossible, you just put points on different coloured gear then have a total and base the brackets of those totals, I'm not saying I'd want mmr match making I'm just saying it is possible

[cobalt void]

can we have the opportunity to buy at least one green potion of clarity from the Alchemist, even if it is 15/20g

[tulip sundial]

People are going to keep doing it regardless of whether or not hr is free. They just like to pub stomp for free with no consequences. IM seems pigheadedly opposed to gearscore, even if it would be a good temporary measure until they figured out something else

[void scarab]

Should add in an in game fighting/practice ring. Where you and friends can go in and practice movement skills/fighting.

[polar ferry]

Would love this also allows you to try different gear combos

[void scarab]

Let you see different weapon strengths and etc as well with test dummies.

[stuck perch]

Consider that a higher colored item isn't necessarily better than a lower colored item, if the higher colored item has bad stats compared to the lower item that has good stats. For example such a system would rate an blue Armet (fighter only helmet) with an additional spell capacity bonus as better than a green Armet with an all attribute bonus. This means that not only would players want good gear, but they'd would only take gear with good stats for it's color, or they risk getting bumped up a bracket and having to fight players with better stats on their gear. lower tier gear with great stats for their tier would be worth more than higher quality gear with lower average stats.

[odd bay]

Can we please get more altars in these maps ? its makes it so pointless to carry a heart, by the time I find an altar theres blue portals coming up and makes it pointless

[polar ferry]

I wouldn't wear a higher colour that doesn't have good stats so if you want to risk being bumped a teir for wearing shit rolls that's your own choice, that not a balance issue that a personal issue

[stuck perch]

Then there's items that are great for one class but ok on another, do you punish a player who takes in an item that's cool for their class but great for a different class? And it's not just higher colours with shit stats, but also higher colour with "ok" stats. Players will put tons of effort getting a character super lean for a given bracket and that's not something that's going to be good for the game or even provide the "even playing field" the MMR system proponents want.

[spark sonnet]

Can we please change the elf faces back to the original, these new ones are not it.

[mental raptor]

Could we please get a stash expansion for reaching level 20 on a character?

[uncut crest]

that is a good idea

[stuck perch]

Honestly I'd rather get a new game+ option for leveling a character to 20.

[uncut crest]

that is a good idea too if u would get like some extra stats

[polar ferry]

I get it wouldn't be easy to implement and everyone will have an issue no matter the way it went I just don't believe it would be impossible, difficult 100% but not impossible, but I am more for what you were saying less crowded maps and more insetive for higher geared players to go else where, so if you want to fight a geared person you'd know where they generally go

[modest ivy]

It would be nice if they didn't remove the cost for hi roll AFTER the wipe because of exploiters on gold piles... only to turn around and add it back not even a week later. What were they even thinking doing that?? The market and people with high rolled gear is even worse than before the wipe....

[stuck perch]

That and less crowding on the map means if you play smart you can avoid the geared team and play around them.

[polar ferry]

Definitely if you make it a little easier to avoid ppl would be nice, not saying 100% guarantee but a decent chance

[stuck perch]

For balance reasons I don't think you could get extra stats from it, what I think you should get is the option to reset your character to level 1, but you either get to pick a subclass or the option to multiclass with another class you've also leveled to 20.

[exotic parcel]

I'd love a "report message" in the gathering/trade hall - full of sellers, and not the kind we want

[stuck perch]

Even a block option without having to look them up and click on their portrait.

[polar ferry]

They just need to work on their report system in general, only options ATM are cheating or offensive name and that's only if you get to spectate them so if they seem sus but they kill you right at the end and use a portal there's no way to report them, no way to see last played with, other than your team mates

And even then you can't report last team mates, what if you played with a random and they started using cheats, like yeah you could get yourself killed and spectate them but no one wants to do that

[stuck perch]

There's the #1056520745330675763 channel for instructions on that but an in-game option would be great.

[unique field]

Can we please get a gold bar that the trader sells for like 1250 gold that you can sell back to the trader at any time for 1000-1100 gold? A dedicated item for value storage would be infinitely better than using gold keys or something else. Either that or just expand the trade windows so i can do my trades in one go instead of having to research peoples actual twitter account to know if i can trust them with 2000+ gold trades.

[junior minnow]

Does anyone else think barbarian is kinda op at the moment?

[polar ferry]

Yeah but like you gonna remember some of those odd usernames after a match like ingame would make it so much easier

[stuck perch]

Yeah, I'd also imagine players trying to dodge that by having a name with a series of l|I characters.

[polar ferry]

Eh does alot of DMG and has decent health but slow af

[junior minnow]

Not really hard and cleric with horseman’s axe is crazy

[polar ferry]

Yeah exactly, I get games in early access but that should be amongst the top of the list imo

[junior minnow]

I just believe that fighter is way slower and a lot more squishy, while also not doing as much damage

With the recent pdr nerf I feel like I am unable to match up against barbs with a decent cleric, I simply get out healed and am to slow to chase

[stuck perch]

There's going to be cheaters and exploiters regardless, I think the size of the problem needs to be weighed. They're already looking at banning cheaters and stuff through their own means.

[polar ferry]

Idk about that one, a fair few ppl put fight up near the top as strong characters

[junior minnow]

I agree no doubt fighter is in a very strong spot, I’m specifically talking about how fast and Tanky barb with horseman’s axe can be

[polar ferry]

Oh yeah you'll never get rid of all cheaters but to make it less and also not just for cheats, for things like toxicity, like yes there's a karma system but there's 0 punishment for it

[white kettle]

having a starter dungeon with a timer would work wonders for protecting the new players as the game goes on

[polar ferry]

Yea I feel like that's just the horseman's axe more than anything though quite a strong weapon

[junior minnow]

@polar ferry that’s exactly what I’m talking about tho

[stuck perch]

Punishment for the karma system is something that's player enforced. If you know you're dealing with a low karma individual you could refuse to trade with him or demand more advantageous prices. On top of refusing to group with him.

[junior minnow]

I always get killed by that class with that weapon even if I land a very successful parry, they are to fast and just run

[somber wind]

Bard's looks need to be reverted, they look like a predator now

[polar ferry]

Well I don't think that the barb class just the weapon

[somber wind]

Warlock also looks like he has cancer now

[polar ferry]

Yeah I suppose but like most other games still have an actual game punishment for toxicity, like oh no people aren't playing with me coz of my karma isn't really much of a punishment because there's always gonna be someone that will still party with them

[somber wind]

On the upside, Rogue female looks like a Goth Latina

[polar ferry]

I'm interested to see the new character mesh coz I live in Aus so haven't been able to play since the patch, coz work and all that

[lament saddle]

Female elf looks ugly af now pls fix

Edit: female ranger is also ugly pls revert

[somber wind]

Alot of it is just a downgrade

Female ranger looks like they put a male head on a female body

[lament saddle]

fr. she looking like a they/them

[somber wind]

A friend of mine said that she wasn't sure if the female ranger was female and had to take the shirt off to check LUL

[lament saddle]

Even the female elf is looking like a dude, pls revert

[stuck perch]

Maybe, but if it limits their options in trade or gathering hall, it's fine. Toxic people can go play with toxic people for all I care.

[jagged flicker]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486846/add-classic-elf-girl-to-the-store Today they updated the Female Elf to it's current version. But I liked (and paid for) the old version. Could I get the old one as an option please?

[polar ferry]

I mean yeah same but I do like seeing a toxic person being punished lol, as much as I like sturing the shit myself sometimes I'm never like offensive

[willow fulcrum]

Anyone else not liking the changes to consumable belt? It locks you in a swap animation and i can't immediatly fill in a new bandage or whatever

[jagged flicker]

ew animation locking

[somber wind]

[Extremely Bad]
Bard Male
Bard Female
Warlock Male

[Bad]
Ranger Male
Ranger Female
Wizard Female (Lighting problem, if fixed would be fine)
Warlock Female

[Fine but Different]
Fighter Male
Fighter Female
Barbarian Male
Barbarian Female
Rogue Male
Wizard Male
Cleric Female

[Better]
Rogue Female
Cleric Male

[cobalt void]

cleric needs faster interaction time, just a little, cant get gpld in groups

[strong cloak]

if u use th foot stomp you can crush them without weapon UM its REALLY easy >_>

[stuck perch]

Thing is, a lot of people are only occasionally offensive like when they're provoke or some other dumb stuff. Aside from illegal stuff I don't care if I don't have to be in their team.

[polar ferry]

Mainly when I mean toxic I'm thinking more like intentionally team killing or you know hate speech and stuff like that, like the occasional banter is whatever I love banter and a bit of shit talk

[analog barn]

Add a begginner pool till like level 5 where everyone you fight is level 5 and below.. once you hit 5 then you get thrown into the wolves den but at least would give new players a second to learn the game before full purp squads start wiping them.

[cloud forum]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486907/make-gold-not-go-into-stash-but-let-it-go-into-your-personal-gold-vault

[stable vessel]

Can we get one of the vendors doing jewelry trade in? 3 of 1 type of jewelry for a random roll of the lowest color traded or higher

[abstract oracle]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/485744/market-improvement-or-rework

[lament saddle]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486897/female-elf-skin-is-ugly-af-now-pls-fix

[sage needle]

Revert nerf mage ignite @granite plinth . Literally nobody plays it bc u need a very good equipment and is very risk and u nerf it more... no sense at all

[jagged flicker]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486846/add-classic-elf-girl-to-the-store

[rough mesa]

why would this even be in a priority for fixes in this game? this is why suggestions in this server are shite

[gentle mica]

I would like to suggest adding US Central Server

[signal vapor]

is there a suggestion to revert this

Now, after using a utility item, you will automatically grab the utility item in the next slot.

[bold kettle]

make a limit to how much thrown useables you can carry. tierd of 30 throwing axe barbs every game

[polar ferry]

There is a limit, your inventory space lol

[bold kettle]

no

all you get in response is no, sit down

[polar ferry]

Wym lol seems fine to me

[vernal lotus]

Limit to thrown useables doesn’t suggest a limit to arrows, curious

[polar ferry]

Honestly though I haven't really ran into a barb using more than 4 axes

[crystal cosmos]

Do you know if they intend to add new races to the game dnd themed, because I'd love to see a tiefling race

[polar ferry]

Got a feeling no because of copy right issues

[jagged flicker]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/486901/revert-automatically-grabbing-next-utility-slot

[polar ferry]

But I'd say they'd probably ad more races but more generic ones that wizards of the coast don't have right to