suggestion-discussion

[upper sonnet]

I think people really underestimate how much money maintaining servers globally 24/7 with good netcode is yeah.

[peak canyon]

but honestly V rising doesn't even feel like Early Access. that feels like a full game

[zinc beacon]

?? Read your message, then read my message.

Btw Check out Stunlock Studios, the developer of V Rising. they have 3 dead live service games trying to do what y'all have suggested.

[glacial sphinx]

Imo, they need compelling cosmetic MTX. So far the best one is the food stuff while resting in my view. And even though I'm not a huge fan of the skins having stats I can't realistically say they affect gameplay so I think they're fine as long as they have the same model size/shape.

I think for cosmetic MTX they can consider doing something like PoE with having custom hideouts -> custom taverns in this game, or even a place you can join like a map and screw around in with training dummies etc.

Another thing could be some cool looking effects like a fiery halo (not a light source) that activates if you kill X amount of people in a single lobby or something. Cloaks with your own colour/symbol on it etc, ideally without making it hard to recognize the gear people are using.

[upper sonnet]

Still the Class idea was a bad one. Good they went back on it. I still think people failed by not saying anything about it even though they mentioned it a shitload.

[zinc beacon]

Did they stick with those game? Nah they killed it and move on. Each game had microtransactions and skins btw

[upper sonnet]

They mentioned they wanted to follow 'DbDs model' like several times in interviews and QnAs. I think I'm the only one who ever said "Wait a minute that may be a bit of a bad idea"

[lucid flower]

The system can work if you put enough time into the actual game and add content

[zinc beacon]

Hey bud? this is an adult conversation okay? IF you aren't going to look into or understand what I said, then please stop @ing me

[upper sonnet]

I guess no one here played DbD so they didn't know what that entailed

[lucid flower]

Dbd's way of doing things ended up with an community full of diehard fans with anger issues.

[upper sonnet]

Real

[zinc beacon]

Dead By Daylight has a proven succesful monetization system.

Is it perfect? No obviously not. But it has kept the community engaged for what 6 years now? and continued providing content

[lucid flower]

Same with siege and for honor...

[upper sonnet]

At least the devs here are no where near as bad at balancing as DbD

[lucid flower]

So if Dad does this we might end up with an shit community

[zinc beacon]

if DBD did not have the killer releases that it did have, it would have stopped updates at least 4 years ago.

[pulsar lava]

Already have a shit community with people like you in it

[upper sonnet]

Like I know people thought PT5 was a bit rough but DbD is on another level, it's unreal. And yeah I mentioned that before: It leads to making New player experience harder and harder as the game goes on. So only people who stick around are the vets.

[lucid flower]

Just take the criticism Jesus dude

[zinc beacon]

But it's proven to keep the game alive long term. It verifiably works.

It's not perfect, but DBD Would have died at least 4 years ago had it not been for it.

[pulsar lava]

You haven't provided any constructive critcism whatsoever you're complaining for the sake of complaining

[upper sonnet]

DbD is able to only trick get new players with their Crossover IP characters. Each time they get a big IP they get a big uptick of new players

Like the Resident Evil crossover sold like hot cakes so they made a second one and that was the biggest uptick in player count in the games history

[zinc beacon]

Yeah and?

DBD would be dead if it did not focus on adding monetized content. Yeah or no?

[lucid flower]

Do you want crossovers or not? DbD system would include tons of crossovers

[upper sonnet]

...but then the players started dropping like flies and it's back to where it was a year ago. I don't think DaD could fit in crossover IPs without it seeming super corny. Like the recent 'The Boys' Crossover for Warzone

[zinc beacon]

Back to where it was a year ago... so... still a living and thriving game?

[upper sonnet]

I wouldn't stay thriving

[pulsar lava]

It's not dead, which is an improvement over most lvie service games

[lucid flower]

With a bunch of toxic degenerates that tell you to kill yourself over a video game

[upper sonnet]

but alive yes, it's just not a sustainable model especially for a Korean company who likely won't know how to negotiate these contracts.

[zinc beacon]

38k players on 1 of 4 platforms? How is that not thriving?

[graceful frost]

True, I wouldn’t want crossovers I don’t think. Would really really ruin the immersion

[pulsar lava]

I dont think you guys realize this but a live service game is the hardest type of game to keep alive. Most die within months

[zinc beacon]

What is the mark of success if 38k players on steam, with 3 additional platforms is not considered a thriving community?

[lucid flower]

What about tarkov? What did they do right?

[upper sonnet]

DbD even had some contract disasters like their Stranger Things DLC

They had to delete the entire DLC because agreements with Netflix broke down. People kept the characters if they bought them but it's now impossible to play them ever again.

[zinc beacon]

Yeah and? You keep talking about the negatives. But at the end of the day, DBD is alive and well, and how many live service games have died since it came out?

over 99% of live service games fail. They fail fast and quietly.

[pulsar lava]

They did a 60 euro game with option to pay 100 for extra stash slots and don't give any refunds whatsoever lol

[peak canyon]

Tarkov is actual p2w

[upper sonnet]

I was saying that complex contracts with popular IP for crossover promotions is probably something a small SK studio would have big trouble maintaining lol

Tarkov's model sucks, I will say DaD's package was a lot better. I like the beta access idea.

[zinc beacon]

I don't even want cross over characters. I don't think it's even necessary to keep your core audience engaged.

To attract new players? Yeah obviously it's proven to work. DaD isn't going to have any crossover opportunities.

Maybe with like Dungeons and Dragons or some fantasy IP.

[pulsar lava]

LOTR crossover

[peak canyon]

I do think the success of DBD isn't just becuase of their live service moddle tons of DBD clones have come out and all died

[upper sonnet]

I hated the LOTR Magic crossover but that'd be pretty great for DaD

[lucid flower]

It's the high detail crossovers

[upper sonnet]

It's the IP crossovers yeah

[zinc beacon]

Yeah, wanna know why those DBD clones died?

Because they couldn't compete with DBD. On release their content was significantly smaller than DBD and they couldn't update with content patches on a regular basis, the community became quickly disinterested at the lack of progression systems and left

[upper sonnet]

none of the others get big name recognition like Ringu or Wesker from Resident Evil. The most successful ones were actually the ones that did get a Big name IP like the Friday the 13th game (before development died because of legal BS) or the Texas Chainsaw Massacre game

[lucid flower]

Behavior literally made an competitor to their own game and failed and it even came with an terminator crossover. Plus DbD is really easy to obtain

[upper sonnet]

Oh yeah I remember playing that. It was fun but horribly marketed and balanced.

[slate oar]

TL;DW?

[autumn stream]

too long, didn't watch

[peak canyon]

yeah I played that, that wouldn't too bad I enjoyed it actauly

[zinc beacon]

Dude stop talking to me because you don't know what you're talking about.

Crossovers are not necessary, you keeep talking about Fortnite, crossovers and battlepasses.

The reason Death Garden failed was because it had a lack of progression systems, lack of variety (only 1 killer with skins), lack of map (lack of content), and it never updated with a signficiant content patch.

[upper sonnet]

I will say Terminator is kind of a damaged brand and no one cares about it that much anymore

[zinc beacon]

Death Garden literally proves my point on what makes a live service game fail.

[upper sonnet]

Death Garden was just very trim on content and got no advertisements

[peak canyon]

Termintor is a classic man, that theme song will never get old

[upper sonnet]

They didn't have the song in the game though

[zinc beacon]

No marketing, 1 killer, 1 map, no content updates, had 1 update with a terminator skin that no one cared about, no progression systems in the game.

Everything DBD isn't

[lucid flower]

Definitely more than one killer from what I remember

[zinc beacon]

You remember wrong then. There was 1 killer with different skins.

None of the selectable killers worked differently, they just looked different. The guns and equipment you selected determined how your killer played, not what skin you selected.

[upper sonnet]

There were 4 killers, each survivor had different skills you couldn't swap so they were basically new characters, and a few maps actually, just not enough. But it's not like DbD didn't launch an even worse state. It's just the industry is changed and you need a much bigger impact on launch to survive a live service

And no you're remembering wrong lol, each killer had their skills and unique weapons. I don't blame you though.

[peak canyon]

the Terminator wasn't his own killer it was just a skin, I think they were 2 killers when I played

[sly bough]

There is any way to check the integrity of the executable that we are installing?, I also check the behabior in VT and VMRay sanbox :
https://www.vmray.com/analyses/_vt/77765c2bf9a1/report/overview.html there not much confidence in the executable and it has malicious behavior.

[upper sonnet]

They're false positives bro

Just send a report to your anti-virus and they'll mark it as a false pos or tell you if it's something to worry about. This tends to happen with hot code.

Everyone who reported it got replies saying they're false positives so far so.

"Keylogger" is always the funniest one that pops up a lot with anti-viruses

[zinc beacon]

When DBD launched it was an incredibly small team with not a lot of operating costs.

They weren't actively going through a lawsuit, they were able to launch on steam, the community at first wasn't that large. The game picked up because the game was unique.

The devs were actively listening to feedback, they released 1 free content patch (Nurse.) Then had paid content (Michael Myers) and the rest is history.

I'm arguing that having paid gameplay content is a viable business strategy for long term success of a game. Since DBD is undeniably a successful project.

[upper sonnet]

Aye, it COULD be good but honestly it would take a lot of reworking with the Class and Blue Shard balance. Likely would need to adjust everything so it doesn't take super long to unlock a character, but still a decent amount of time for cosmetics.

The grind in DbD to unlock a free character is long but I think it's actually shorter lol than the prospective one in DaD right now. You of course can't buy licensed characters with in-game currency but still, that's a contractual obligation not a choice for the devs.

With the backlash it's honestly probably just easier for the devs to rip that out and then just make some minor changes for the cosmetics and focus on that

[hollow delta]

guys why they dont make it to be able to see how much exp i get from killing mmobs or to see the level bar inside of the game it will be better i think

[upper sonnet]

You can see the level bar already

it's on the WiP Skill tree screen

[hot hemlock]

"Inside of the game" clearly means mid dungeon run lmao

[mystic river]

make fighter bald

[torpid jetty]

Guys my game keep freezing like non stop my system very good but for some reason its unplayable im in EU Frankurt Server , how do I fix this?

[south wren]

change to US EAST server

[dense solstice]

be able to shift hover loot to move everything at once rather than click each individual item

[ember canyon]

is the blacksmith launcher causing troubles for anyone?

[carmine vale]

idk about now, but getting to play new killers was extremely grindy when I used to play DBD. I bought with in-game currency a couple of them, grew bored of both and quit playing killers. i really don't know how it feels to grind for classes in dad bc i haven't bought the game yet, but if it feels any like DBD did, i'll probably end up quitting sooner or later aswell

[short spear]

pls give us the potion stack back

[zinc beacon]

The grind is extreme, I think it's way too much obviously. But the whole argument is moot since they're remvoing it now I guess?

But i find it worrisome that they apparently have no long term plans of success now. So... I guess that's what people wanted? For the future to be uncertain.

[carmine vale]

Nah bro, if you offer good cosmetics regularly for a decent price people will always buy them

[carmine vale]

btw, where did you read that they are removing it?

[zinc beacon]

People keep saying this and I don't understand where they're getting this idea from.

This isn't a game with an appealing aesthetic to general audiences. There isn't going to be waifu anime skins you can buy for $20-50 like Genshin, League, Valorant, Overwatch, etc. This game has to do something more than simple cosmetics if it's going to last.

This game won't have cross over cosmetics either.

Terrence said they're rethinking how they're doing classes in #q-and-a Doesn't know if they will monetize it still or not, will be a team meeting apparently.

[carmine vale]

I can see what do you mean with this, but I think you're approaching it wrong.

Yes, it is true the aesthetic is not appealing to general audiences. And yes, there won't be anime skins.

But I think you're underestimating the vast ocean of oportunities that classic fantasy offers when you talk about diversity. You can add races, you can crossover with other popular fantasy universes, like LOTR, like D&D... you can add features to add to your character, you can add emotes like they're doing, weapon skins, object skins...

Idk, I think that if you really want to focus on cosmetics to make your game last, you can do it no problem at all. But of course, adding paywalled content is just an easier way to do it.

[drowsy juniper]

Bolts and arrows should not be junk items! There are classes that don't spawn with ammunition that can use it and would benefit from being able to store it!

[zinc beacon]

While D&D and LOTR crossovers would be neat, I can't imagine it would cause a flood of new players to come in like... say Spider-Man or Darth Vader you know? It doesn't have the same wide spread draw.

I'm not arguing they can't add more races, emotes, equipment skins (which are debateably p2w btw.)

Do most people buy emotes though? I would consider that filler cosmetic if we're being honest. The kind of junk you'd put in a battlepass just to say you have a big long pass.

[oblique karma]

Why do we need warlock with 1 good spell, when we have mage with a shit tons of it ?

[autumn hemlock]

warlock is just trash atm

[carmine vale]

You're right, it won't cause a flood of new players to come in to the game but... does the game need that flood? Let's be real, DaD is not going to be a top 3 Twitch game viewers-wise. It's more like a niche game that will have its relatively small community, like DBD does. That doesn't mean the game won't be succesful. Did the Myers DLC bring a lot of players to them? I don't think so. And that's fine.

You're kinda right about races, weapon skins, they're debatable p2w. It is very hard to skin something in a game and don't give it some advantage/disadvantage over the default. Particles will always make the sword easier to spot, or make it a bit harder to identify, that's inevitable.

You're also right about the emotes, they're a bit of a filler cosmetic, but they always add-up. Make bundles that are more expensive with them + a race, for example, and you will eventually sell them.

[zinc beacon]

You're correct that I don't know how much income Ironmace needs to reasonably justify continuing development on the game indefinitely.

No one in this server really knows the answer to that question except the dev team.

If we want Ironmace to continue development for 6-12 months. I think that's a safe bet.

If you want development to go longer than that then, there needs to be a solid monetization system in place beyond the initial buy in.

[wispy swift]

The balancing since last play test as made it boring to play as a solo cleric, at least before even with basic skills it was enjoyable to play solo

[zinc beacon]

I'm not sure what that answer is tbh. Classes being purchasable was not p2w in my eyes when you could play 2 earn it. I just thought the Grind needed to be reduced.

Things are pretty fluid right now, and the decisions Ironmace makes in these first few months with monetization will ultimately determine how long we will be receiving content updates for this game.

[rough mesa]

make a discord role called PingAlerts, make it so people can decide if they want to get a At Everyone ping or not, stop using atEveryone, please?

[carmine vale]

I think you're right here. I don't necesarilly think they needed to remove that feature, but just lower the unlock requirements.

Yep, it will all come down to how IM manages these things in the upcomping months, all we can do is hope.

[meager jasper]

I have more problem with the races being locked behind payments than the classes. I think classes should be paid for to incentivize the devs time on working on them, tbh. But the races do actually provide an advantage.

[hot hemlock]

The races provide quite literally nothing, as much as they are buffed they are debuffed. And they arent pay gated theyre just fast tracked with money. Everything is free to earn

[jagged ibex]

please add optional matchmaking que so i can play with random people, I have no fkn friends that want to buy this shit

[meager jasper]

That's like saying a wizard who has an extra +1 int in d&d but a minus is strength isn't getting anything bud. That's just not true.

It may be minor, but it's an advantage to specialize.

[hot hemlock]

So give me a class that doesnt get nerfed from the debuff that gets buffed from the buff

[zinc beacon]

You know it's not locked behind a paywall right and is earnable in game?

The devs are changing how the grind system is going to work anyway. I swear no one that is complaining pays attention to the actual dialouge happening with devs.

[zinc beacon]

There's an in game gathering hall chat where you can just invite people if that helps. Or just invite randoms in lobbies, that works too for me.

[kind wasp]

suggestion: 1 stash for all classes, but you can get storage containers and upgrades to your stash

[meager jasper]

Buddy I spent the entire first day playing and did not get a single stone. Pretending that level of grind is anything other than a paywall is silly.

[cloud sun]

1: Being able to drink potions and bandage yourself while sitting down.
2: Barb crusher perk to open coffins.

[hot hemlock]

If you cant extract 25 times in 1 day and you played all day maybe rethink your playstyle?

[zinc beacon]

Hey dude read my full message?

"Devs are changing how the grind system works"

Do you just selectively read what you want?

[cloud sun]

You get progress on stone by extracting.

[zinc beacon]

oh damn, I just realized how many games you must have lost, lmao.

[vernal elk]

why are the mobs so fucking tanky?? evven in goblin caves

[kind wasp]

take it slow, take em 1 by 1

especially when low geared

[pulsar lava]

Lol I only played a few hours yesterday and I have a stone already

[weak wasp]

Can we get a perk specific to the long sword for parrying / reposte seeing as Shield Mastery got nerfed and it actually requires skill to do

[meager jasper]

No you didn't, buddy. Matches are about twelve minutes and you need 25 extractions to get one. Also could people stop spamming me?

[hot hemlock]

Im at sub 10 hours and I have 32 extracts but yea man gl on getting your stones

[pulsar lava]

maybe if you didn't die to PVE you could get some stones 🤷‍♂️ skill issue

[meager jasper]

I had one early today, finished last night with 23.

Stop spamming @ me, please.

[opal coral]

Any idea if they're going to expand party sizes eventually? 3 kinda seems like the max for the current dungeons, but I would love to see a 4 man party dungeon.

[kind wasp]

i remember them saying something about 3 people not being enough to defeat a dragon boss

[soft finch]

There's this thing called the gathering hall to do just that

[clear apex]

Is there any sort of friendsystem to invite friends more convenient than typing their username ?

[hot hemlock]

I mean I do like the idea of queueing with randoms but then whats stopping me from running the dungeon then murdering 2 people ill never interact with again and minmaxing loot

[zinc beacon]

The report system I guess.

[hot hemlock]

Report system does nothing when im not requesting random people to join lol

[zinc beacon]

You just asked about queueing in a team with randoms? But your saying it doesn't matter when you dont queue with randoms?

that doesn't make sense to me lol

[hot hemlock]

So what hes asking for is like in Apex, where you queue solo but get paired with random teammates

[kind wasp]

with voip, this would be awesome

[zinc beacon]

then you asked whats to stop you from PKing your teammates, then i told you, then you said it doesn't matter because you dont do that anyway

[kind wasp]

and maybe turn team damage off or some sort of punishment for killing teammates

[hot hemlock]

My understanding was you were refferencing the Current karma system, which just flags people who are using the party finder via invite system

[zinc beacon]

which is the only system we have atm

[hot hemlock]

Yea but since it only shows people who are inviting/invited. Then having a system where no invites are required it would be completely useless

[serene snow]

what give us XP and how much does each thing give?

[kind wasp]

killing but mostly extracting im pretty sure. you can check spellsandguns wiki for details i think

thats already a thing, like 2 playtests ago...

[zinc beacon]

so then... add report functionaility to this hypothetical non-existent system?

[shadow wind]

Warlock should have one Spell, that can be modified with passives. More damage, knock back, reduce armor/mres, slow, reduce heal. Also the range of Pain could be a little longer

And the Hellfirehitbox could be slightly bigger. Make Pain dot stackable

[timber yew]

This has probably been beaten to death, but there should be one allowed character for each unlocked class you have. If you unlock all 8 classes, you should have 8 slots for characters, not 7. Thank you.

[craggy kayak]

Can we please get a quiver for ranger/ and can arrow not cost 1 gold per each

[woven radish]

Monsters shooting through walla gonna stop

[neon furnace]

A Shapeshifter class that can steal abilities from other players. When the shapeshifter steals the ability it is locked for a period of time for the other player. The shapeshifter can also mimic in game items like barrels, crates, urns and if broken by a player will give them a debuff to move speed and strength for a period if time. The shapeshifter would look like lizardfolk in appearance

[vast wagon]

Please add more bandages to the surgeon / potions to the alchemist

Buy 3 gray bandage and if y die u just shit outta luck

[crystal cairn]

How much do you plan to F*up the Ranger Class ?

• Inventory Managment Horror right now
• Heals not more stackakable
• Arrow Reloading
• Reloading making you instant slow while other have the Speed Boost of their Live
• Arrow taking Space as FFFF
• Money eating for Arrows,Traps, Heals
• 10 Arrows = 10 Gold......Awesome.
• alway have to worry about the Arrows and collect them back...if you miss a shot
• Arrow flight Speed needs to be changed to be faster
• if you find Arrows you cant save them in the stash
• people now just drink a Armor Potion, and they straight up face you without any fear. Untill you have shoot down the Shield they are on your back and just 2-3hit you. wow GG
• I shoot someone 3 Arrors into the Head with 15%DMG boost Perk, not enough.

what kind of Class has that punishment ???
since Playtest 1, Im Playing Ranger.......this class is litterly Patchd to Death.
With any other Class,you can enjoy your loot and get back in.
with Ranger you have to spend half of the money you made.
and it should not matter what Bow you have, we should have 10-15 Arrows without having to reload.
after few shoots everybody insta rushes you, bcs they now you will Reload and be slow as FFFF. Weapon changing also Speed Punishment.
I dont see any other Class like that, Ranger is low weight, so how is a Barbar or Fighter with his Heavy Armor faster then a Ranger.....
while other Classes get Double Jump to abuse the Map ?

the high Tear Ranger Player say that its the worst class right now, especialyl for Solos. I agree with that 110%.
but if you just get bum rushed, what is that for a skill please ?
the whole attributes what makes a Ranger are almost taken away ?
that class is not a tank....and cant take much Hits in close combat.
NEXON must be working now on Ranger Class

[compact barn]

Hard to agree Ranger is the worst class in any sense lol

[vast wagon]

If u think ranger is bad its gotta be a huge skill issue

[still sky]

Just allow me to pull my shield up, that's all I want, just to be able to use the shield in a timely manner, let say, in a realistc manner.....Please, that's all I ask

[molten copper]

Ranger is great still. If you want ranged without inventory management go play a wizard.

[livid osprey]

When it’s comes to the shop, I’d suggest not having any status effect at all. Skins no status effect is better.

[rapid dagger]

In goblin caves there needs to be multiple blue portals on the last circle because half the time i kill people but die anyway because the portal is above or below me

[edgy light]

how i can make a suggestion?

[ancient rose]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

here's a good one

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471081/feature-to-recruit-invite-strangers-to-your-party-in-a-raid-as-teaming

[humble oxide]

I think in non goblin cave maps the blue portals should spawn in clusters of 3, it feels so bad leaving your team behind and then if they die there's like survivors guilt in a way. Like when you're with your team and it gets down to the end, it just becomes a competition among your own team to escape it kinda ruins the aspect of team work

[shut sparrow]

why is there no option to change special interaction

[ionic bobcat]

Make the founders edition come with more shards

[snow nova]

did you get an awnser ?

[main lily]

Dear Ironmance,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to express my strong interest in your game, "Dark and Darker," which I recently discovered. The concept and gameplay truly captivated me, and I am eager to experience the immersive world you've created.

As an avid gamer and enthusiast of your work, I was thrilled to learn about the availability of "Dark and Darker" for purchase. However, I wanted to bring to your attention a concern that many fellow gamers and I are facing here in Argentina.

The current pricing of $35 for "Dark and Darker" is indeed reasonable for the value it promises. However, when factoring in the substantial 75% in taxes that are applied in Argentina, the total cost becomes significantly higher and potentially prohibitive for many passionate gamers in our country.

I kindly request your consideration in offering a special pricing arrangement for the Argentine market. A price that takes into account the local economic conditions and tax regulations would greatly contribute to making this fantastic gaming experience more accessible to a wider audience.

By adjusting the pricing for the Argentine market, you would not only make the game more affordable but also demonstrate a commitment to your global community of players. This gesture would undoubtedly be met with immense appreciation and enthusiasm from the gaming community in Argentina.

I understand that pricing adjustments may require careful consideration and evaluation from your end. However, I firmly believe that such an initiative would result in a win-win situation, fostering positive relationships with your Argentine fanbase and potentially even increasing overall sales in the region.

Thank you for taking the time to read my request. I sincerely hope that you will give this proposal the consideration it deserves. I look forward to hearing from you regarding the possibility of a special pricing arrangement for "Dark and Darker" in Argentina.

[young wagon]

Make a lobby FPS cap my pc is cooking with 80+% GPU usage in lobby

[main lily]

Thank you for taking the time to read my request. I sincerely hope that you will give this proposal the consideration it deserves. I look forward to hearing from you regarding the possibility of a special pricing arrangement for "Dark and Darker" in Argentina.

Wishing you continued success and innovation in your endeavors.

Warm regards

[weak wasp]

Let me know if you manage to get it working

[patent mauve]

They had 3 way escape portals on crypts, people camped them too much.

[humble oxide]

yeah I remember that but tbh I prefer that to only solo evacs. Like you might make it out loaded but ur friend dies and then you're just like sorting your huge run, selling items, ect while your friend is tilted or the other way around. My opinion is you should be able to either leave as a team or die as a team

[glad fjord]

nerf the giant centipedes poison attack move its never fucking misses

[humble oxide]

skill issue

[copper mesa]

please give the ranger a quiver or something to hold more arrows why are we getting such a huge inventory tax when no other class does not only do we get inventory tax but we also have to buy arrows and we cant even stash them.. seems like too many nerfs

[ancient rose]

there is a suggestion about regional prices

you'll get a big discount soon man, i assure you :)

[carmine pond]

Umm, outside of Gameplay, mechanics, classes and the such: As QoL-Change, the ability to buy the game via PayPal on the official DaD Site.

[dense tide]

Can we please have the ability to store arrows and bolts into your stash, this will help not run out of bolts for crossbow, its already hard enough to find some from PVE.

[wet remnant]

How do I actually go about posting feedback and a suggestion?

[stray pecan]

i feel like this game would benefit from a mode similar to hunt where if youre a 2 person party you can opt into servers with only partys of 2 or less and if you opt into the 3 person party servers you get a small XP boost.

[terse pier]

and if you go into 3s as a solo you get a huge boost, that would be cool

[stray pecan]

yesss exactly

[covert geyser]

Why is there a max of 7 characters when there is 8 classes... this needs a change.

[somber wind]

You mean how it's riddled with hackers?

[shut thicket]

How do you make a suggestion?

[dusk olive]

It got better

[regal prairie]

Allow non bards to play bard instruments that drop in the dungeon poorly for the hilarity of it

[clever talon]

Please make a chest of some sort allowing us to put items inside of it to save space in our inventory. Also can we have bandages and potions stack again? I dislike having to put potions in my 4 slot after I use one. Thank you for the amazing game.

[normal lava]

Can we buff warlock armor set bychance? It has too much movement speed penalty for it's armor type.

[small nest]

how do I put something in #d-and-d-suggestions

[normal lava]

That's been disabled i think

[pulsar pivot]

they should sell gold in the in game shop

[tranquil plaza]

how do i make suggestion ? current versio of game is TOO dark

go back to mix of beta 2 and 3 that would be perfect

[hushed plover]

this

[small nest]

I want to be able to have a free campfire as a ranger again. that shit was fire, just make it a ability or something that takes up one of the 2 slots, for team players n such.

[untold badge]

The bard songs need more info on who the songs affect… some of the songs say that they effect x x and x and others like the invisible song have typos but yeah it’s extremely unclear what the songs do.

[somber wind]

I would be fine with the idea of for in the future when we get our equippable pouches that there is a Potion Pouch which can only hold potions and has a small inventory of 4 slots but potions can stack like before in there. Special inventories for pouches I think would be ideal.

[somber wind]

The problem is the risk with hackers is alot worse in this game. It's not like in TF2 seeing 1 every 5 games is ok.

[trim dock]

📢 ⚠️ 🇫 🇮 🇽 🇨 🇷 🇴 🇸 🇸 🇧 🇴 🇼 🇧 🇺 🇬 ⚠️ 📢

[somber wind]

You cannot suggest on the discord anymore Baxton, you do it here now: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

[night current]

what is cross bow bug?

[rancid garden]

Has anyone suggested more specific keybinds? I.E being able to set binds for a different pots, torch, throwable, etc.

[trim dock]

mostly happens with hand crossbow but can happen with any. it shows the animation and sound of the crossbow firing when you attack, but no projectile is fire. This can repeat up to 5 times before the crossbow ever actually fires. very frustrating.

[night current]

@trim dock oh wow that sucks lol

[pastel fiber]

Revert health pot and bandage stacks change

And take out crossbow skellies

[somber wind]

That's not a solution, they did it for a reason and some good ones:

1. With the removal of the weight limit, they needed to curb the amount of potions players were bringing in.
2. Players were bringing 30 Health potions into High Roller creating a really gross meta.

[jolly quail]

ISP is blocking access to darkanddarker website, also getting ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR and havent been able to connect ingame for 8+ hours.

[short crystal]

Anyone looking to upvote a suggestion to improve the trade window?

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471116/rotation-of-items-in-trade-window

[lavish fable]

Can you please remove the stat increase/decrease from skins, pretty bad idea for something cosmetic, I would always rather extra armor than magic resist so the skeleton is pointless

[jovial skiff]

I could've sworn it was in the playtests but people are telling me it wasn't

couldnt we use scroll wheel to do different attacks before?

[lavish fable]

No you are thinking of mordhau or chivalry

[jolly quail]

I dont remember this ever being a thing

[jovial skiff]

i did get mordhau as copium maybe im just trippin

[sick cargo]

the server is fixing now?

[lavish fable]

It's disappointing isnt it

[woeful elm]

Who in Argentina hates you!?

On a more serious note, I hope this tax issue is resolved soon.

[jovial skiff]

for sure but still loving it untill i get wall banged by the damn bugs in hell

[lone nest]

indeed it is. Decieve and starsiege help me through the DnD waiting times, both decent

[summer bolt]

on ruins the first 6 portals to open are single, and the last is a 3man portal

[lavish fable]

I meant mordhau being disappointing lol

[jovial skiff]

oh yeah, it was definatley i still have it on my homescreen but had entirely forgotten about its existence till u mentioned it lool

[pale ruin]

Petition to rename curse of pain to testicular torsion

[jovial skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/the-ole-dick-twist-gif-13184993

[sinful thicket]

Please make the "sit down to regen" faster. It slows down the game soo much. Like having a 15 minute add break while watching a movie.

[lone nest]

surely duo que has been suggested right?

[steady moat]

I'd love to see a permanent progression system for a base of operations instead of the tavern table. Something other players can see when they join your party that you can use your gold to spice up. Something so you can have 4k hours in the game and not only have a level 1 no gear to show for it at the start of a season.

[summer bolt]

Any way to track player stats?

[jovial skiff]

Bump on that losing everything end of season is whacko, it does lead to a lot of items that have been stashed goin cheap last couple days are always lit

[sweet canyon]

I'm simple man, give Wizard starter spell book with staff, thank you. Edit: also clerics if you all support us in these endeavors.

[whole bobcat]

Add a friends list in game.

[fringe pendant]

How can I do a suggestion with the suggester bot? I want to suggest to have a training field next to the tabern, so you can go and take a first impression of the character you are about to play, also could be useful if you can test warlock or bard before "buying" it

[steady moat]

You don't have to buy them now, they are walking that back

[jovial skiff]

bard smells funny warlock seems kinda weak i havent played warlock yet though

[fringe pendant]

but i want to test before going to the dungeon

[flat relic]

Bard needs some quality of life changes imo
since you can juggle a bunch of different songs/instruments, making it so that when you try to use a certain song it equips the needed instrument rather than needing to have the correct instrument equipped first before selecting the song
It would make it so much more convenient

[steady moat]

You can just do a run with base free gear though right?

[jolly quail]

This please for the love of god

[fringe pendant]

yeah but its not the same as if you go to hit a dummy to see the damage etc..

[jovial skiff]

there is a dummy in the pregame lobby you can test on

[toxic pulsar]

yeah we need this

[fringe pendant]

pregame lobby could be as long as a 3 seconds if u are last joining

i want to test it and try things against a dummy to see how it works or how i want to play it

[slender birch]

why did they make it so bandages and potions dont stack actually a terrible change

[covert stag]

So what are the newest bugs so far

[fringe pendant]

and i want to do it with enough time, pregame lobby isnt enough for testing, right?

[lime drum]

Hello,

First off, I have been loving the game, thank you for coming back.

I was wondering if there would be any sort of like town / home base / upgrading area, or if storage was going to be raised in the future as well

[steady moat]

As a ranger I dig the reduced health item changes lol. I'll take any advantage I can get

[trim dock]

It makes fights more of a true battle of attrition, rather than just being about who brought more potions. You need to pick your fights more carefully, because you cant just infinite heal after every fight.

That being said, I think they should still let potions stack in the stash, and buy multiple from merchants. I dont see any reason on further limiting our already very limited stash space.
sry @covert stag i pst the wrong dude

[covert stag]

E
Oh hi gandalf, I saw you murdering people as a barb last lobby

[fickle thorn]

battle of attrition, or battle of who has cleric?

[trim dock]

well i play solo so not my prob lmao

[trim dock]

good point though...maybe nerf cleric heals to compensate?

[grim ruin]

Anyone else getting annoyed from people advertising websites where you can buy gold for real money?

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471126/enable-reporting-players-in-the-trading-post#comment532310
Give an upvote and terminate scumbags

[fickle thorn]

@trim dock who complained about that bandages and healing pots stack? who was that person? you can bring still same amount of heals, its just tedious that you have to fill more space, and drag them back into quickbar..

[trim dock]

no actually. you can not bring the same amount, you can only bring 1/3 of what you could have brought. its too much healing for a game like this.

You should be forced as a player to either go in with a bunch of provision, which means far less loot to extract, or go in bare bones and hog all the loot. SHoudnt have the best of both worlds.

[spark nimbus]

will the druid be a summoner class that sounds fun

[jolly quail]

ive gotten a few surg kits

[trim dock]

more of a shapeshifter than a summoner

[fickle thorn]

@trim dock there was not too much healing in game to begin with... its just made cleric even more mandatory if you want to have any solid group... (cleric was already even before the strongest class in any group) , its just hindered solo players or comps that want go triple damage etc...

[polar sedge]

buff wizard again. invis buff is appreciated but it needs more.

[trim dock]

i wont argue that cleric is nearly mandatory, its true. but like I said i dont think about it too much because imm a cave goblin lol. But thats a completely separate issue from stackable potions.

[slow stream]

as a wizard player i play ranger when i want to turn my brain off and gain infinite gold this sounds like a major skill issue

rangers are a plague espeicially with good gear

[trim dock]

thanks for the clarification. do you think its more rare? and did you find them in high roller? atleast in normal i havent found any. they were always rare in normal but i dont remember it being THIS rare

[slow stream]

unless you play solo ranger class is too strong imo

[jolly quail]

All of the ones i found were in normal castle inside of breakable crates think I found 3 total and all of them were at least green quality

[trim dock]

good to know! hopefully they are still in goblin caves too, because thats where i would get mine

[shell pier]

Can we bring back the stacking of potions and bandages?

[jolly quail]

Yeah ive been having insane luck with breakable crates giving green or blue items so make sure you dont skip them!

[fickle thorn]

no, "there was too much healing in game, and fights are more "MEANINGFUL NOW " LMFAO

[shell pier]

ahh

[crystal cairn]

yea sure, your Brain has also a Skill issue.
Infinite Gold, yeah you got me good with that joke....
I roast you in a 1vs1 with your Magical Mage 😂

[hushed plover]

what crossbow bug? dm me please

[late roost]

never played bard, that seems hella annoying this is a good suggestion

[slow stream]

THIS!!!!

[bronze mortar]

I Cant make a suggestion, So Ill put it here Let us report the absolute goblins that spam "buy real gold 1000 = 5.99" in trade lobbies so we can get these robots banned. It wont stop them, but it'll cut their purses $35 each account they remake

[trim dock]

1 hour down! 1 more hour until we are back!

[solar cedar]

Toggle crouch is needed IM

[autumn tiger]

Put Cloak skins in the cash shop and make classes free

[jovial skiff]

i never found one in the play tests and ive found 4 since i bought the game like 20 hours ago

[thorn geode]

Or at least sell a storange container like cauldrons for your pots that can hold X amount of potions and take up X amount of stash space

[trim dock]

yea - i like the idea of a cauldron for pots! jewlery boxes for rings and necklaces. stuff like that, its a great idea

[thorn geode]

Mhm, even being quest locked or something difficult to obtain would be cool - although obviously it's taking credit from tarkov for that idea lol

[trim dock]

yea holding crouch is not friendly for people with weak hands like me lol. I got tendonitis or something

[thorn geode]

But yeah, the stash/inventory/merchant interface to be needs reworked edit: maybe reworked is a strech, maybe made more user friendly or streamlined. Also dude same!! on both my wrists on the outside. I feel that

[trim dock]

agreed lol tarkov had some good ideas (and plenty of bad ones) but i like stash cases like that. and yea i got on a wrist braces and i got some bengay and tiger balm for it lmao. I need some compression gloves or something maybe idk.

[thorn geode]

My own fault though, i chose to work at a job where I swing a hammer all day repetitively and im 140 soaking wet. body wasnt ready for the punishment haha

[trim dock]

i feel like kyle in the world of warcraft episode of south park, if you ever seen that

[thorn geode]

HAHAHAHA YES

I've used tiger balm, mostly i just use an ACE wrap wrapped right above my wrists, i dont go across the palm with it and wear a brace over it. really comfy and gives me enough support that using a hammer is manageable

and lots of ibuprofen

I should ask if yours is carpal tunnel related?

[trim dock]

oh damn true. that sounds rougher than what I do. I work from home so im typing all day, then when i get off i type all day playing games lmao. I drive alot which I feel like it can be hard on the wrists as well, and before that I was a student so I was typiing and writing all day. just years and years and years of using my hands and wrists all day is finally catching up.

Ibuprofen is definitely king lol. and I honestly dont know because im neglectful and havent had a doctor look at it. I just know tendonitis runs in the family, my dad and grandpa have it so i guess the curse has been passed to me.

ill have to buy some ACE wrap and try it out. ive been using some cheap velcro carpeltunnel wrist brace, i dont even know what brand or where I got it. its been working decent, but sometimes i feel it more in my fingers than my wrists so it doesnt help there

[thorn geode]

Okay that definitely sounds like carpal tunnel, you should see a dr because that can be fixed fairly easily iirc

[trim dock]

Yea... i need alot of things checked. that is good advice though, definitely going to make that a priority when I do schedule my next visit

thanks for the info! its not fun. it messes with almost all my hobbies, which are either video game or music related lol. everything I do is with my hands

[ripe haven]

This is what we needed today. #d-and-d-suggestions message

[trim dock]

ive barely been practicing piano because of it... which is ironic i know because i still fight through the pain to play games lol

[trim dock]

not a bad idea

[trim dock]

do you know the site to leave suggestions? i would post that there

[ripe haven]

Idk anything except that we needed offline mode six months ago

[trim dock]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

[ripe haven]

Thanks

[trim dock]

np, gl!

[ripe haven]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471138/lanoffline-mode

[thorn geode]

Factual

[austere obsidian]

Let rangers keep a stack of 30-60 arrows in the secondary weapon slot next to the bow so I can get them out of my inventory and make money pretty pls

[sacred bough]

Would love to have a sandbox or a offline raid where i can optain no items and loss no items wer i can learn the map and learn mobs and bosses. Having a hard time to figure some dodge movents out

[thorn geode]

Yes I agree, it's hard to test things without basically just griefing a run in some cases

[glossy linden]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471139/quivers-for-rangers

[ripe haven]

Wat I would suggest is simply removing the stash for sandbox mode.

[glossy linden]

I suggested quivers, dont remember arrows taking up inventory space in testing back in febuary could be it was a thing back then as well but since arrows are definetly a thing i think this would be a crucial addin

[tight elbow]

wizards and clerics really need to start with a grey spellbook instead of a staff, the staff is so bad

[sudden thunder]

Imagine getting a barricaded room spawn with no way to get out

[tight elbow]

staves can be good if you find a green/blue quality or better with some decent stats, but the grey one is one of the worst weapons in the game atm

[tight elbow]

cleric spawns with a weapon, and wizard has enough spells to clear some trash mobs. I see your point tho. It just feels bad trying to use the awful staff when all of your other gear is equally as bad. Feel like a spellbook on spawn would be a nice QOL change

[glossy linden]

the only thing is that spawn items are supposed to be trash and swapped asap

[tight elbow]

fair enough

[sudden thunder]

To me it feels like staffs aren't as bad as they were before with cast speed, but since you are mentioning it I assume they still have different cast speeds?

[glossy linden]

that sword the fighter starts with is dog water

[tight elbow]

the cast BAR is the same speed, but the animation post cast is much faster with the book than the staff

[sudden thunder]

ah

[tight elbow]

not that the staff is unusable.. and I get that starter gear shouldn’t be inherently good. but damn the staff lets me down sometimes

[sudden thunder]

Guess there's also the problem that staffs are more likely to hit a wall or something that blocks your cast

[wild wolf]

The most dogshit damage at start is rogue without any hesitation

[tight elbow]

I found myself hoarding grey spellbooks from the alchemist so if I wiped I would be able to throw that in my cast weapon slot at least (cleric)

[wild wolf]

rogue feel like with gear u oneshot boss without u stab 10 time and player still running

[sudden thunder]

I don't think starting with a staff over a spellbook is something that needs to be changed. But I do think that higher rarity staffs should maybe offer something that spellbooks don't to make them more of a choice, maybe a chance of higher number of modifiers versus spellbooks?

[tight elbow]

the only reason i’d ever use a staff over a spellbook is if it had some really good +magic dmg or cast speed stats. other than that I’m picking spellbook every single time. So I agree

[stiff burrow]

would really love push to talk back

[wild wolf]

where did u saw that casting time is the same but animation is different by the way ? cause book feel a lot faster

[tight elbow]

they’re working on it apparently

[tight elbow]

just from personal playtime, I’ve played mostly wizard and cleric and it’s just plain obvious. other wizard/cleric mains say the same. I don’t have concrete numbers or information, though

[wild wolf]

i dont feel that way at all it feel ten time faster and faster than the blue ball too and it should be logic btw

[tight elbow]

ah I see you edited your original message. the book may have a faster cast speed, but I’m not 100% sure on that. I definitely know that the animation is faster

[wild wolf]

but to be fair it would have be possible there is a lot of mechanic hiden and counterintuitiv thats why i asked

[feral gull]

Would be awesome if they made the emojis available for users or server boosters

[slow stream]

cast speed no but the casting animation after you release is faster

[wild wolf]

ah make sense well its faster at the end

[slow stream]

its really good yeah

[tight elbow]

👍

I’ve played a lot of wiz and cleric so that’s how I felt

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a caster player choose a staff over a book either. Unless the staff had crazy stats

[pulsar crag]

guys i'm trying to login in my account and nothing so far, anyone with the same bug ?

[echo badge]

Just messaging here cuz the rest of the chats are literally filled with crack heads crying, aside from the stuttering, is this worth the buy?

[wild wolf]

man this is worth the buy at 1000k %
Compare to all the game nowaday this is the surest buy
this game promote real fun with mechanic that put u in laughable or punch the screen in every game with wtf situation everytime
sound design is great coop is great, u can ever coop while no mic

[fringe sequoia]

Stuttering is fixed and yes if you like the gameplay loop then yes

[indigo grail]

should add a spiked ball and chain mace

[wild wolf]

thats a good idea probably hard to make the chain mace

[restive panther]

Hi, Im from Argentina. The price here is ridiculy high 😦

[indigo grail]

it depends on what style theyd go for with the chain mace

[echo badge]

Okay, thank you, actual people with more than two neurons. I loved the game play loop of the test but now it's on a weird site I never heard of, and it's been silent for months, just wanted someone who can put on pants probably to inform me before I spend money.

[wild wolf]

i mean for the animation will be weird without physic, if u strafe while attacking and the chain dont move aswell

[indigo grail]

if they do it so when idle he simply holds the ball and chain that makes the physics a lot easier to deal with and less of a hassel

[wild wolf]

what do u mean silent for month ? there is announcement on the discord and every streamer talk about it

[indigo grail]

another dope weapon to add would be the katars for the rouge class fighters

[wild wolf]

true like in D2 u have some good idea sir

[bright ore]

how do i create sugestion?

[indigo grail]

exactly

it would have a decently fast attack speed aswell sense it was usually dual wielded

[wild wolf]

it probably something that dev would like cause the game feel D2 all the way with the ui and stat

[ocean sedge]

If you played the playtests then you know what getting yourself into. Is on darkanddarker.com (yes, DaD has its own site now). 35usd is the base price, which is a bit steep but I opt for the more expensive option because you want them to have money to fight nexon. They have been silent because legal problems, tldr: nexon doing some corporate bullying.

[indigo grail]

i would definitly like to get one of their opinions on both the katars and chain mace

[wild wolf]

guys would u like more keybind possibility for spell and utility ? (the game feel optimise for any platform thats awesome but more possibility would be cool too

[ocean sedge]

+1, please give us spell hotkeys.

[wild wolf]

yeah i was feeling that way before but now even more with the bard u have 400 apm if u want to cast all buff

[indigo grail]

it depends on the playstyle and how people utulize keybinds personally i dont need them it would be interesting but i like the current keybinds and system for spells and skills

[indigo grail]

added keybinds for the bard would actually be sick

[summer drift]

Login queue system?

[wild wolf]

yeah bard feel insane with all those spell now

[summer drift]

I'm a happy bard boi. Self buffs, party buffs, buffs for everyone

[indigo grail]

i havent had the chance to try hium as of the new early accessrelease

did they add more songs or spells

[wild wolf]

its insane now lol best class u have 3 more instrument and 4-5 spell per instrument + cool passiv totaly change gameplay

[summer drift]

Which passive?

[indigo grail]

wait there are individual spells for each instrument

[summer drift]

👍

[indigo grail]

i think i need to get my hands on the bard immediatly

[wild wolf]

yes and u have to select with utility cause ur instrument are in the utility and select the good spell and u can run both spell cast circle, so keybind are far more appreciate than mage

there is some insane buff insane damage spell realy thats a great class now also watch jaygriffin trhow tambour in people face thats funny

[indigo grail]

thats actualy really dope, how do i get more blue stones

[indigo grail]

i remember it being not the best when he first came out, he was kinda meh

[wild wolf]

u get them by simply survive from a run and depending ur action in and if its higt roller or not ( u need a shit ton of run)

[indigo grail]

oooh ok that makes sense

[agile wadi]

Would love an option to mute all audio in the warmup/waiting lobby. Getting repeatedly attacked while waiting for the lobby is too loud

[pastel fiber]

People are still gonna do this lol, it just takes waaay more space

[tranquil plaza]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471117/too-dark go upvote 🙂

[upper sonnet]

no

[solid orchid]

Quality of life change: Would be fantastic if you could drag and merge coin bags. Bag with 23g dragged to bag with 22g = bag with 45g and bag with 0g

Bag with 20g dragged to 42g bag = 50g & 12g bags

Having to manually take out bunches of 10 is a bit of a pain.

[stray void]

i suggest that skills cool down times be displayed when picking between them.

[graceful frost]

yeah it used to be like that but they removed it

no clue why

[cold root]

the game needs VOIP back in pretty critically to draw streamers/content creators and fix the server issues as new players are gunna bounce right away. having a blast but these are so critical right now

[normal oxide]

I suggest that the currency gain from escapes is adjusted. 1 shard after 25 escapes, cool. Another shard after 50 escapes, ok. Another shard after 100 escapes… eventually it will be impossible to get a currency in a reasonable amount of time. The gain should be linear, not exponential. If it’s staying exponential, maybe increase the amount of shards you get when leveling up a tier.

[soft finch]

How are those critical issues? Can't be to draw players, as their servers are so overloaded with players that it's causing issues lmao

[fair oasis]

it doubels to 100?!?!?! does it keep doign that???
ugh, 25 was bad enough,, that sucks a ton...
I was coming in here to suggest it not go up at all, 25 wins is crazy, maybe even up by 5 at MOST??, like 25, 30, 35, etc

[coarse topaz]

Thoughts on swapping warlock starting weapon with crystal sword instead of staff

Something that feels slightly better to bonk with. ideally it would be falchion/crystall ball but I don't wanna get too crazy

[rose flint]

at the end of every raid, players in a party should have a free trade menu to evenly trade loot from each others inv for those who survive

[somber wind]

Which makes it much worse to do of course

[pastel fiber]

also weight limit was never a thing

[somber wind]

It was in the plans, if you look at screenshots from the tests it was always going to happen; push back from the players got it removed from the roadmap

[pastel fiber]

ah, well the "they removed it last playtest" kinda threw me for a loop, but gl hf 😄

[queen sable]

is the curse of pain for warlock not going its full animation distance a bug of it not going all the way or the animation going too far

[tight vale]

Suggestion to make spell capacity also increase the number of spells you can equip, giving a reason to possibly choose that over raw damage at lower levels (or at all), to maybe reach 6 equipped spells, or more with a high level + kit character.

[urban jungle]

You can take a second spell slot

[mossy dock]

Bring stackable potions back this is ridiculous

[queen sable]

wrong chat :X

[wheat tartan]

Friend list.

[arctic lagoon]

judgement needs to be a projectile, hit scan free 25 damage is BULL

[midnight sapphire]

If you walk backwards from the cleric it cancels it and puts it on cooldown

[arctic lagoon]

how was i supposed to know this

[obsidian portal]

If you try to reconnect and the game doesn't let you you should be able to keep your shit, 7th time today I open a blue portal and I just crash soon as it opens up, won't let me reconnect no matter what

What's worse is you can't level if you fucking disconnect it just doesn't count any of that match towards your progress

[olive hare]

Anyone know of any plans to nerf the ranger? atm is unbeatable if they start a fight more than 3m away

[tight vale]

yeah, but that kind of sucks to have to do, skill slot is already mandatory to have any spells at all

[raw mica]

Would be sick if there was a solo or duo version of the other maps, not just the goblins caves. Maybe make it so what you queue up with the other people in the match are also the same team size, solos/duos/trio etc. The other maps are so much better than the goblin caves. That specific map is too vertically challenged and the crypt and ruins are so much better.

[soft finch]

Did you ever try playing the other classes to understand how they work?

[arctic lagoon]

everyone besides cleric

[gray skiff]

Can someone explain what these shards are that I keep hearing about? Havent played yet. Just curious

[sullen plume]

Set an option to show in game ping

[vernal ether]

Achilles Strike for Barbarian really needs to be rebalanced or removed, there is no way to tell that you have been hit by it, and you are always strafing when fighting a Barbarian, so whenever I get hit with it I just die instantly to it. Massive armor-piercing damage is not fun. Add a very clear warning to stop moving or at least make it so they have to actually hit the leg with it lol

[subtle sedge]

for spells give a range indictor

[tawdry pine]

Duos would be nice

[worthy citrus]

Maybe make the warlock not consume health on spell cast. In a game where health is so valuable you make a class that uses its HP. how are you supposed to survive with that???????? Also hellfire is so fucking slow and really is the only damaging ability worth using...

[fast stone]

Rework the Archer / Arrow situation Pls make them some cheaper or Storagable

[patent mauve]

Agreed, I think the damage while moving should only apply to leg hits.

[fervent tundra]

I would love the Races to just be skins, i want to use the skeleton skin i got from founder's addition but -10 armor is such a huge debuff

[crystal dune]

Reduce Magic damage scaling on Bard. He killed the entire Lobby with din of darkness dealing 20dmg per Tick and doesnt even need Line of sight

[gusty scaffold]

Bro they gotta bring stacking potions back. This change only makes running a cleric even more mandatory than it was before

[void sable]

please do not wipe the game as a general mechanic, it's fun to go into a full loot game and kill people who are fully geared. It's NOT a bad thing that people can go into a game fully geared, that just gives lower geared people an opportunity to steal it

[gusty scaffold]

Wipes are supposed to be every 3 months. Thats a really long time.

[void sable]

what's the point of that? it's a full loot game, why wipe any progression someone can get

[brave ember]

Typically what happens is people get bored and player count drops. People like the progression. Often games in early access wipe to introduce new mechanics and features.

[merry kestrel]

Also games like this with tiers of equipment often have people who will be in higher tier gear in low tier lobbies to just newb stomp

[brave ember]

Im in favour of this, germs eat giants.

[void sable]

yeah this is a good thing, it means you can get high level gear if you outplay people... that's the whole point

[merry kestrel]

Yeah. Outplay the purple axe barb with your grey arming sword lmao

[dawn flower]

Second Wind should just end if you take damage

[void sable]

skill issue if you can't...

[merry kestrel]

Lol ok buddy, you just want ez kills.

[brave ember]

Skill asside (bad take imo) but if you end up by circumstance/opportunity you can get cheeky fat stack of gear when your in average/entry gear.

[merry kestrel]

Introduce half loot loss like eve online and albion online.

[wooden iron]

Any chance we can get a female voice line for clerics, when using a skill? ^-^

[void sable]

yeah easy kills against a full gear bozo

[brave ember]

I'd want a refund for this game...

[merry kestrel]

You're going to lose everything in 3 months anyway m8

[void sable]

half loot loss? LOL... bro there's a reason this game is popular and it's not because it's "fair" or whatever reddit usually likes to play

[brave ember]

Fine by me but the loss/reward is gone if I cant take some top gear inventory from someone...

[dawn flower]

You mean remove barbs only counterplay? sure

[grand bane]

report for teamers on goblin cave when

[upper sonnet]

just kill both of them ez

[floral vapor]

Different price for latam

[lone crescent]

Devs approves teaming in solo if the team gets formed with a random without premade

[neat fulcrum]

fix the Hub voice chat, it kicks you out if it cant form a voice chat

[tepid pawn]

For a Wizard Unique my friends & I want them to make a chicken staff! Like for instance when Druid is released he can turn into a bear to mess on somebody but maybe a chicken as well that can run and fly away.. so then maybe just maybe I can turn a lil'bastard into a chicken w/limited controls(compared to druid form) and then murder chicken

[crimson flax]

walk backwards lmao

[ocean sedge]

The point of second wind is a skirmish recovery. Doing that would kill the ability

[reef elbow]

Need to improve loot. Can hardly find a singe blue in the normal dungeon anymore.

[stiff saddle]

Nah loot tables are fine. Just go deeper or do high roller

[rugged eagle]

This is intentional

[supple igloo]

Main reason this playtest feels only 30% fun compared to the other ones is just simply loot. Id MUCH rather have a wipe every month and have the old loot tables. If you dont go Hr you basically are stuck with 90% grey 9%green and like 1% blue. And with all this lootpool dilution by Bard and Warlock specific items its even worse.

Ive played 10h every day Hr, non Hr, Hell non Hell and the loottalbe just feels unrewarding. the only time i have found good loot is with 150 Luck from luck potion in Hr hell.

And that is a place 90% of the playerbase will never see.

Wich is just not fun. HR is already full of hyper sweats that are just gonna get more and more stacked. So other players have 0 chance of getting anything there, not even talking about going to hell lol.

The last playtests you could have at least gotten a good basic gearset with good green +2 stats for your class. And it feelt good. Not i dont even wanna open any chests no more since i know there is a 90% chance of getting grey boots...

[rugged eagle]

My guy just pickup trinkets sell for gold and buy loot with it

You can be in full purple and never leave caves easy 100g a run

[supple igloo]

but thats just not as fun. idk if thats just me. I have 4k gold on 2 characters but i dont wanna sit in trade chat for 2h waiting for some good gear

[rugged eagle]

True trade chat sucks rn

[supple igloo]

i wanna play the game. I wanna go fight and loot chests. and kill people with gear. PVP is unrewarding since 90% of players just run grey basic gear. Its just a death spiral. I cant get gear from chests, nor can others. So i cant get gear from Pvp either.

[rugged eagle]

HR caves has had some geared pvp for me

[supple igloo]

So either i go HR Hell with 2 other sweaty teams and probably die. Or i jsut accept that i dont get any good loot and try to have fun that way. Either way. IMO the loot last playtest was perfect for me.

[reef elbow]

I know its intentional. Would much rather have loot like it was in playtests. I get they want to force people into hell and high roller, its just not fun. You go there and cheese the mobs by attacking them on a ledge or standing on something to get easy gear. Would much rather everyone have the chance to find good gear in normal dungeons. Because as it stands now you won't find shit.

[visual pulsar]

We hear your grief but other players are climbing and getting gear etc. Even solo ones. So it might be time to change classes or gameplay approch. Tho he is sweaty AF watch Jaygriffyah, he solos wizard and does solo Hell. It can be helpful to watch and learn from those who are progressing if you feel stuck.

[supple igloo]

it just should not happen that you kill a Wraith and all you get is 2 pairs of grey boots. Thats just my opinion. At that point its just not worth my time.
Same with Hell Minibosses. If i kill the Centaur and i get 1grey one green im frustrated.

Like is said legit 90% of this playerbase will never ever reach HR hell. 70% of them will never even go into the normal hell

This game will loose players when they just keep on dieing without having the chance of getting any good loot to compete.

[rugged eagle]

Idk ive been doing caves hr with 0 cheese and its fun

[reef elbow]

I've actually went caves HR a couple times and mostly only found greens and a mediocre blue as well

[rugged eagle]

Cant speak for crypts yet but i enjoy low gear fights so im a fan of the changes

[thorn solar]

Could make a trader room for selling pendants and rings. They're untradable as is

[supple igloo]

Man i dont have any issues with progressing XD i have good gear i have 4k gold on 2 lvl 20 characters. Im talking about fun here haha. I have gold i have gear i dont have fun.

Im missing the fun of getting good gear from looting. Even getting a green with a good roll has gotten SO SCARCE. I have gotten 3 good greens this whole day. its insane

[rugged eagle]

Trade in utility

[supple igloo]

same tbh

[visual pulsar]

Okay I understand. Yeah the gear has not felt as good. I have only been playing ruins because crypt feels like trash. High Rollers is really the only option, if you have 4k gold then youre wasting your time not playing in HR honestly. High rollers is when the game begins, non-hr is like a place to learn the game. Have you tried the lucky potion yet? I havnt but I am assuming it gives magic find increase but Idk. I wish loot drops were bumped as well but if you have that much curency saved up you should be in HR and feel an increase in your gear finding.

[supple igloo]

The thing is . if i die once stupidly. I loose my god gear. That means either going grey gear into HR Hell to get stuff back. Or sitting in Trading post for 2h. Wich is both not fun.

Usually it was like this:
You have a god set
You go HR +Hell
You die.
You have no more gear
you go normals until you get a decent green/blue mixed gearset with decent rolls after some games.

With that you go HR bc now with good teamplay oyu can compete with other players there.
And now you go get your blue and purple gearset and farm good gear for boss farming or HR hell pvp etc.

[cinder perch]

What is the command to send a suggestion to the channel?

[rugged eagle]

Luck potion seems like bait nobody knows how good 50 luck is atm

[supple igloo]

Now you cant do that. You cant get any consistent grey / blues in non HR. you either go naked rat into HR and cheese bosses or you go farm gold in normals with trinkets and sit in trade for 2h

[supple igloo]

luck potions are op. The only way of getting good stuff. And you make the 50 gold back instantly after 5 chests.

[rugged eagle]

Fr? Mine changed nothing and bard perk is 100 and did nothing

[visual pulsar]

Maybe the drop nerf is by design for Lucky potions then. But the game is already challenging enough. I dont see why 100g in-game pay wall for HR and a $50g for lucky potion is really nessesary. They will flesh things out im sure, they might just be good ideas that arent playing out how they envisioned rn.

[supple igloo]

no but what im saying is. I can get 20k gold no problem but i cant get gear for that gold. What use is 4k gold to me. if icant get gear XD No one is selling god enough gear for hr man. I dont want to sit in tradepost for 2h its not fun.

[rough elm]

Training , and quests are still missing those could be the key for the game loop being boring for good players (Basically giving u enough shit to do until next wipe)

[supple igloo]

Last play test. if more people can find decent greens in non Hr and sell them in Trade chat. with 4k gold id just insta buy a good green/blue set for 500 go Hr and go next

[visual pulsar]

I thought HR would have better gear in it. its only $100 to play in there

[rugged eagle]

I found 1 purple a run so far in caves hr

Not sure if lucky or what

[visual pulsar]

Ruins has higher gear drop. I have found 4 blues in there today and a handful of greens. I usually dont put it all on at once for a run. Have not done HR yet tho with my limtied time

[vernal ether]

His counterplay sucks to fight and is super imbalanced. It's really just a play
The most damning part of it is there's no tell when you've been hit by it, so you can do almost nothing about it

[static gazelle]

What is yalls thoughts on another Treasury item like the coin purse, say a "small chest" something along the lines of a 2x3 long ways, that hold say coin purses, so a 2x3 that hold a 2x5?

[rough elm]

Shouldn't a normal hell (Floor 3) dungeon have just a slightly more better item drops than a HR ? then it would explain why u can't get good rarity items in HR

[thorn solar]

treasure chest is a great idea. would make bigger trades possible too

[low violet]

a Quiver would be great for rangers. you shouldn't have 6 slots gone from holding arrows, having a small quiver sounds balanced, maybe only 2 stacks of arrows would be good. or maybe not starting with a good quiver would be good.

[void stag]

https://i.imgur.com/Cey4gHg.png

is there an exploit with buffs im seing double of the same buff stacked 3

one bard cleric and fighter

[solid orchid]

The rate at which you obtain blue shards is ridiculously slow.

[calm dove]

Give us a small "account wide stash" I'm thinking trade window size box. This is just to trade gear to other characters. In order to prevent bad actors abusing it. Make it to where items put in the account stash are branded and can't be sold at auction.

[loud schooner]

A form of storage such as "chests" that could be used to store items such as money/valuables, weapons, armor, and healing items. They could be purchased w/ gold, built, traded, or earned through quests would be a great addition.

[unreal wadi]

I'd like that a lot. More inventory tetris is fun for me.

[static gazelle]

It's been like 2 playtest since I've made a suggestion would someone care to remind me how, please?

[vivid vessel]

move speed meta is a bit much it's impossible to catch some classes clerics need a significant buff in that regard, rogues and bows need to be nerfed over the board. also plis longer matches ❤️

[vagrant kelp]

gotta say the auction is such a time sink and its not a fun one either youll spend 70% in auction looking for gear. i dunno what the devs see in this type of old school trading but just like the reason we not riding on horses anymore and use cars bruh there is a reason games dont use that trading system its just borderline boring bruh for trader and buyer both sitting afk spamming same msg for hours X_X

atleast as a bare minimum add some way to post your item for a bit of gold to auction for a day making it dissapear from inv and if no one buys it you get it back no one wants to sit there for hours like some brain rotted vegetable

[idle cedar]

Solo Goblin Caves High Roller should be a little bit easier. Without full lobbies and you with some really good weapon, it takes a lot of time to clear, and the zone shrinks too fast.

[nocturne viper]

Pots stackable for Christmas

[reef elbow]

Bro just went high roller goblin caves. Literally not a single portal spawned lol. Just three of us in there and no portal for any of us. Great game. Even waited until the very final circle and absolutely nothing. Never heard a single portal open. What the absolute fck

[rough elm]

@vagrant kelp isn't that people's problem that they sink that much time ? Ur sinking time cuz looking for a way to sell the item by trying to sell more than it is. Sell for actual price or lower and instead no one buying (A.k.A being for hours) u will see ppl buy stuff almost instantly. Seems like it' you and most of the people problem that complain about sitting in auction house for hours i remember there was same discussion in the last playtest and previous ones lol Edit: Hording good items until inv is full --> Trying to sell for overpriced price --> Complain about shitty auction system which is not --> Ur problem.

[feral hedge]

sounds like you need to touch grass bud. You just said you have 4k on two level 20's and the game is 2 days old. Go pet a dog, talk to a woman, ANYTHING. you cant play games for 16 hours a day every day and expect them to continue being fun.

[lament verge]

remove deathbeetles and spiders, or at least lower their health they should be 1 tap

[static gazelle]

So figher has some more competive utilitys to that its not just Sprint and Second wind, have Shield slam have a pushback/knockback effect, would be great when getting stuck in cornors or when having to push another fighter or barb out of a door way.

[feral hedge]

agree those death beetles are so cringe lol

[visual pulsar]

Just used a potion for the first time. Very first chest was a blue true damage headpiece with healing. Found 2 other blues and maybe 5 greens, no cap.

Confirmation bias for me. They work very well. With the amount of gold I have I wont be running without them anymore. It closes the gap of the poor loot in this Ver. A bit silly tho, it makes non High roller rounds 50% of a HR in cost just to get loot.

[feral hedge]

we should have higher and lower quality arrows/bolts eg: better flighting to affect trajectory. different arrowheads that specialize in armor piercing/bleed effects etc. also make it so i can store arrows/bolts and not have to go to the god damn woodsman after every single damn extraction

[visual pulsar]

Also found 2 green bangles and a bunch of white trash treasure and 2 potions. I NEVER find potions or bangles inside of chests unless it is a unique area or something.

[obsidian portal]

nerf hunting traps in the heat of the moment you step in one and dont notice they'll do a third your hp easy

[feral hedge]

and make them useless?

[buoyant jasper]

yeah, either make them for damage and a slow effect or make them do like 10 damage and trap you

but make it 10 true damage so armor doesnt kill the effects

[obsidian portal]

Make them stick you in one spot either for a set amount of time or till a teammate breaks you out

if you want a damage based floor trap go caltrops rogue

[feral hedge]

yeah that could be fair, its just that the archer is so underpowered once a team closes a gap and gets into cqb the trap is really your best bet to be able to run away

i disagree fully on that, a bear trap is gonna do alot more damage than some silly little tacks lol

[vast acorn]

the Warlock shouldnt die from casting curse of strength while using the 1hp perk, lets have a real glass cannon lol

[feral hedge]

maybe just dont go chasing down archers?

[obsidian portal]

I wasnt chasing an archer i was running from a goblin got itno the next room got trapped and then it just bled me out for a third my hp

[feral hedge]

fair enough, not trying to be an ass. im just sayin, go step in a bear trap and tell me how you feel after vs stepping on a nail...

[buoyant jasper]

for balancing purposes tho

[feral hedge]

i cant say its not overly damaging but also think 10 hp and sticking you in place doesnt do a bear trap much justice

[obsidian portal]

ok but a third hp

[feral hedge]

if you were to remove the large chunk damage you would have to add a bleed affect that gets worse the more you stuggle

[buoyant jasper]

i could honestly work with that, like something achilies strike does?

[still sky]

Add report a player for sus activity

[cinder folio]

Need a sound when opening a portal

[feral hedge]

so say you keep trying to walk away you cut yourself up a shit ton, or you stay calm and disarm it right away and it does minimal damage while keeping you in place for enough time that the archer can escape

[buoyant jasper]

bingo

[static gazelle]

A potion crate would be great for the stash, make it priced not overly high, but much higher than a gold purse, this crate would take up say 2x3, and hold 2x4, or maybe 2x5 worth of potions.

[feral hedge]

^

any word on if/when voip comes back?\

[soft lagoon]

Bard needs to have a wheel for his instruments instead of having it on the belt locking all spaces for potions...

[feral hedge]

we desperately need some form of communication in raids with randoms

[fallow lintel]

voip when?

[upper sonnet]

When their lawyers fix their EULA

[visual pulsar]

I wish the Skeleton cosmetic was +5 -5 instead. It is objectivly worse. Physical damage is very common, most players are not spell casters as well. Love the cosmetic but its "pay to lose" lol

at least it makes it more unique and everyone isnt running around as a Skeleton. That i gues would kinda suck too xD

[lime drum]

hi please nerf giant centipede 36 arrows is an absurd amount for one mob to take to kill,

Something I would really like to see implemented is the idea of expanded storage

[azure radish]

Can i make the arguement that for the time being, Warlock should be free to play as it is a work in progress?

[final flare]

The discord should add text channels for every class, in order for people to discuss gear, strategies and stats

[azure radish]

#1026916693806686208 this exists! 😄

[final flare]

I swear I looked for 10 minutes before writing this

[azure radish]

ive done this too, so many chats to keep track of

[visual pulsar]

Voice chat will be returning.

[azure radish]

Adding to some of this, Having characters be unlockable by playing or with money is fine so long as they are actually finished. It feels a bit bad spending the currency on warlock with how WIP it is compared to bard or other classes.

Long made short, I suggest making warlock free for all users until it comes out of its WIP state.

[obsidian portal]

Change which instrument is the block / parry instrument flute has the smallest hitbox it is only viable against longsword downswings and even then msot of the time it clips your hand hitbox

its more insulting than not having a block at all lol cuz its just punishing yourself going for one

[tight gale]

I have a suggestion, let my game update

[obsidian portal]

lower the amount of minions in the maps way too many games feel like there was no pvp everyone just struggled to get loot and make it to extract and not die to the ridiculous amount of ads in small rooms with plenty of shit to get stuck on

[static gazelle]

I still feel judgments cast time should be increased to 1 full second, thoughts?

[hollow lava]

Don't know where to put this but I just want my feedback out there.

Classes locked behind Paywall is kind of lame. I'm fine with everything else 🤷

[static gazelle]

If I am correct, I think they said they will be reverting them back to free

[hollow lava]

I hope so

[mild birch]

put otto in the goblin cave lobby

[dim shore]

How do you make a suggestion

[static gazelle]

I think they have someone comb through this thread, and then take some and post them in the other one for us to vote on

[dim shore]

@eager sable Make a trade channel for things that all classes can wear like leather armor. Currently its very time consuming to wait in each channel because people dont know which channel to post in.

[woven marsh]

How do we actually make suggestions?

[dim shore]

its some command

[woven marsh]

@eager sable Make the Ruins a 2 player map. 7-9 parties of 2. There needs to be a map for duos

[queen sable]

goblin caves shouldn't have you spawn in a corner with two goblins right there to body block you

[serene crystal]

a looking for gruop chanel in discord

[peak dune]

@eager sable I wanted to give a suggestion about rarity pickaxes, I used a blue one and I didn't see any difference from it to the common one, my suggestion is to have some kind of advantage according to the rarity of the pickaxe

[serene crystal]

your 100% right with that one there the duos and a map for duos

[granite plinth]

can we please make it so that if u use a spell in the lobby it doesnt disappear when u start the game its the most stupid thing in the game rn

[hushed plover]

make utility items such as lanterns, pickaxes and potions stack in the stash

[lime drum]

why do monsters hit u thru the doors in this game

[somber wind]

I do agree with this, at minimum all WIP characters should be free to founders both now and in the future.

[left moon]

im not sure i like the idea of poison or the dark swarm affecting invisibility spell. i guess you could argue if im in the swarm im already making fatal mistakes but sometimes I want to be invisible in the swarm.

[obtuse verge]

nerf death beetles

[cobalt talon]

Lower the trading fee cost.

Its not profitable to sell mid gear items (blues&greens with not the best rolls) After time spent you're making max 7 gold after fees based on how the economy has valued said items.

This creates a boring looting experience after killing a player because its all the same crap. And the difference in gear for players is either starting stuff, or high end nice rolled gear.

I hope a dev can see this because a simple change like this will bring alot of life and activity into the economy and thus the gameplay/looting experience.

[woeful elm]

A larger variety in craftable cobalt/rubysilver gear would be cool.

[twin flint]

Blacksmith Launcher needs a "minimize to system tray" option!

dont get me wrong- everytime I see the blacksmith launcher my pupils dilate, heartrate increases, and I begin to salivate...
"Its... finally here..." I whisper to myself; hair stands on skin and goosebumps form...
Like a crack of lightning, my will snaps! I close VScode and abandon my studies for these DARK DARK DUNGEONS CALL TO ME!

but yeah it would be nice if the Blacksmith launcher would behave like BattleNet and the bajillion other game launchers I have intsalled

[visual pulsar]

We should really be getting patch notes. I get youre indie anda small team with a ton on your plate. But it is very weird we dont get to see patch notes. It is expected and best practice for any dev team

[vocal fossil]

Warlock can't solo neither group pvp.

[wooden scaffold]

death beetles op

[chrome epoch]

I agree, I think there have been so many small changes and I just experienced one by dying to ghost kings jump attack because they removed the blue spark particles on it. My group and I were waiting on that for indication purposes. We even debriefed it before attempting it lol. We need more transparency with how a lot of things in this game works including unexplained stats, mechanics, etc.

[glacial sinew]

weapon durability that lowers when you hit an object. or breaks eventually.

[visual pulsar]

Yes, especially since this dev team has consistent history of "miscommunication" (like yesterday turning off the server, or the GoFundMe debacle). They have proven that without the Bureaucracy and red tape that large companys like Nexon have (this is a quote from their legal docs) that they can absolutely move things along faster. But we are also seeing the negative side effects of a team that is high in their passion stat and low in their professionalism. With so much on the line and a BIG community at the ready, they need to tighten the ship.

[still sky]

Never ever will you have a successful game if you can't at least get the god damn basics right....that's it, meshing, hit boxes, movement...ffs I know you are using AI to make this, but at least go through the code and correct the simple mistakes it makes...holy cow.

[elder haven]

goblin cave= annoying

[left moon]

why does it cost gold to trade? i already paid the fee for the guild. I wanna sell items extremely cheep but theres no point in giving somone a good deal if it costs me money everytime

[plain basin]

remove chat delay, cant have a conversation in general chat

[sly folio]

Y'all think there should be a scoreboard at the end of the game that shows stats like dmg, healing, kills, assist, and etc.

[hollow steppe]

can we nerf highroller goblin dungeons fr? How is anyone supposed to play when the mobs+zone make it impossible if you get a bad spawn

[honest flame]

?

[misty barn]

please add a way to parry or even just if 2 swords hit each other it cancels each others attacks out

[arctic lagoon]

can we freaking not have enemies that have ranged attacks that give major debuffs go through shields??/

[thorn solar]

If the devs could let us know when the wipe will be, that would be great. Is it in 4 days when the 'next season' starts?

[woeful elm]

Agree, we gotta know when we get our best gear out in the final hour.

[tranquil plaza]

Where did you find that info dork ?

[final oasis]

.

[static gazelle]

Slow effect on ranger should be toned down, to easy to back step

[plain yew]

Please make big coin chest because 1.8k gold in pouches takes up 6x6 stash space. I beg, please need gold chest that cost like 100G but lets you store 500 gold, maybe make it a 2x2 space? idk

[static gazelle]

Also, as a fighter main, and a vivid user of the Falchion, it needs nerf

[hidden trellis]

remove rouge double jump, they need to lose their obsession with a class that mains sitting in corners. humans that equate that to fun should not be allowed on the internet

[exotic briar]

wheren is voip?

[versed moss]

On the "High-Roller Leaderboard" tab

[plain yew]

Rogues are squishy. Playing as a bard w/ cleric and fighter make rogues the equivalent of a fly

I don't think it needs to be changed at all, sure, they're bad to go against as a solo, but still

[spark torrent]

I think bard should be able to place where he does his music skill checks at on the UI because i find it difficult to look at what i'm doing if i have to look at the bottom of my screen i wish there was a slider to move up and down so i can still somewhat be looking at stuff as i play

[viscid cloak]

NEED HELP press play on launcher, says stop, then says play again, wont launch

[gusty scaffold]

The potions stacking change was totally unnecesary, and it indirectly buffs cleric which did not need to be stronger

[hidden trellis]

they added a bit of unncesary things in the last playtest and in the early release that kinda kills alot of the fun

[still sky]

JUST RAISE THE GOD DAMN SHIELD

JUST RAISE IT !! THAT'S IT STEP ONE IN GAME, ALLOW ME TO RAISE THE FUCKING SHIELD

[nocturne grotto]

any fix for not loading in besides restarting

[reef cosmos]

NERF DRUM DMG

[late dome]

🫵

[still sky]

lmao.... I have never seen such shit in my life....Spawned in, two rooms, kill the mobs....THERE IS NO WAY OUT, lOOKED EVERYWHERE, SPAWNED IN A PLACE THAT YOU CAN NOT EVER GET OUT.....ffs, the more I play the more I realize I can shit a better game....wtf is going on right now

[undone harbor]

Add more stash space, please I'm begging you https://i.gyazo.com/d75a5c0203484fa05d6f0b87e8607a3c.jpg

[errant canopy]

Make duos ong

[jovial swan]

Hear me out:

Quarterstaff (aka The Stick)

Substantial Buff: Movement speed reduction reduced from -35 to -15.
Minor Nerf: Min damage output reduced from 24/28/30/33/36/40/44/47 to 20/24/27/30/33/37/41/45.
Minor Nerf: Max damage output reduced from 24/29/33/36/40/44/47/49 to 22/27/31/34/38/42/45/47.

[hidden trellis]

voip needs to come back so i can torment you and your friends while i kill you

[coral reef]

Friends list, there is a block list but no friend list

[crimson palm]

the bard music descriptions need to be more specific on who the spell targets, it is not always clear who the target of the spell is

[plain yew]

Ew. Bringing trash politics into a game chat? That's disgusting. Get over it. If you can't counter a rogue w/ double jump you suck at whatever class you're playing. As a bard I've killed multiple double jump rogues.

It's a perk that can be countered easily, and wastes a slot for them.
If you can't debate game features without being transphobic then please dont msg anything at all.

[earnest meadow]

holy shit that was so perfectly able to describe my feelings towards that

[cunning depot]

Nerf cave troll, stop buffing it

[kind wasp]

we should be able to store crossbow bolts

[kind wasp]

people are defeating it by throwing drums at it.

[jovial swan]

You guys think hub worlds would be great for this game? Kinda like how Sherwood Dungeon had them?

[cunning depot]

and? I've learnt to beat it in nearly all the playtests versions, yet they keep buffing it to counter whatever I've learnt. I refuse to not kill cave troll with non-fighter class 🤷 they nerfed crouch strafe strat by adding some goofy instant overhead slam. And now they added so big AoE to it so it counters it even more. Like what? Only rogues and rangers can kill the cave troll now? thats ridiculous

[kind wasp]

i can kill it pretty easy with barb

[cunning depot]

clip it

[kind wasp]

alr i will next time i kill it

[wet jewel]

How to solve the game crash

[austere obsidian]

Let us stack potions and bandages again so we don't have to spend 5 minutes resting every game.

[plain yew]

Atleast let us stack them in the stash, lol

[queen sable]

just got my first triumph level. Even if i play as a sweaty try hard non stop for the next two weeks i honestly doubt I would be able to afford anything using in game currency

[proven garden]

change the warlock class from a jewish start to a pentagram

[sudden thunder]

Add a tech support channel for all the people with issues regarding installation of the game and whatnot

[placid idol]

game should add a friends list for quick invites n that

[proven garden]

why is the Warlock symbol look like a jewish star

[floral flare]

Its early access now, need that bigger gold pouch/chest or gold bar crafting

[vernal carbon]

there should be quivers for rangers that could go in the cloak spot. that way the rangers dont miss out on inventory space for the arrows

[ancient grove]

MORE STASH TABS

[magic root]

make the crystal sword a 1 handed weapon. the wizard already holds it in just 1 hand but its classified as a 2 handed weapon.

[full valve]

Make rogue hide have 10 seconds movement by default. The 40 seconds cooldown is way too much. A dungeon is 10 minutes length, which means you can stealth 15 times max if you just use stealth and go out of it right away in order to start the cooldown. All in all, a rogue casts stealth 2 or 3 max 4 times in a dungeon, which is way too low for such a class defining skill. My suggestion is make 10 seconds move by default (not requiring a skill). Lower the cooldown to 30. Reduce the duration by 10 seconds.

[glacial sphinx]

no, shorter CD would make them too annoying, hiding is strong enough

[dim karma]

give back archers unlimited arrows, annoying every dungeon i have to spend 20 gold for arrows, and if i want to fight cave troll boss you need 113 arrows so 113 gold to fight it 🙂

[full valve]

Shorter CD won't make anything annoying by increasing the capability to cast stealth from 4 max times to 6 max times

If not 30, at least 35 is reasonable for the longest cooldown in the game and one of the most useless skills ( when you don't take stealth, but even when you do, you incapacitate yourself by having only 3 perks )

[crimson palm]

if you beat the troll, does it not pay more than 113 gold?

[dim karma]

just seems a little unfair since every other class can do it alot cheaper

[crimson palm]

but can the ydo it as easily as ranger?

[dim karma]

most classes can buy a green/blue weapon for 50 gold where archers have to spend 100 for a bad green bow, and no you have to fight cave troll the same way as everyone else dodging every attack

[crimson palm]

so, why not use a spear then or a rapier, if the method of fighting is the same

unlimited arrows was op, maybe you could argue they should lower the price of arrows i might agree with you there or make arrows found in the dungeon (that didnt come from another rangers spawn items) storable in the stash

[dim karma]

actually arrows are not storable in stash which makes it even worse

[crimson palm]

thats what i jsut said

[dim karma]

spears are 100+ gold

[crimson palm]

i said they should make it possible to store arrows you find, the arrows you spawn with shouldn't be storable just like every other starter item (because you could die purposely to store them)

[crimson palm]

only a green spear is 100 gold, you can buy a grey one for 10 gold, if your talking about green items and other classes bring green items well then they're also risking money

[kind sorrel]

reduce lobby wait time by a minute plz

[gentle minnow]

Specifically stash, perks, customize and the shop all start to needlessly use most of your gpu while the rest of the lobby doesn't. I find my gpu having to work more just on these tabs in the menus than actually in the matches itself.
Can we please at least get a 60fps frame cap in these tavern menus?

[cursive swan]

WE NEED MORE RANGE ON SOME BUFFS AS BARDS send help

[crimson palm]

bard spells need better descriptions to clarify who is and isn't targeted by the spells and whether or not they are a channeled song.

[fallen geode]

Tbh spell description is allover the place atm. Some even have damage numbers, some dont for some reason.

[stuck hearth]

Would love to see a map for duos. I play primarily with just one friend right now and it would be great to have a map that is duos only like Goblin Caves is solos only.

[ancient rose]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/

[hallow copper]

Kind of surprised there isn't a stats page to see overall trips into (and out of) dungeons, monster/player kills, etc. Unless I'm super blind and missed it..

[unkempt vale]

Sell a Flint Lock skin in the store for Hand Crossbow

[dense fjord]

I feel like the barbarian is op rn but I don't want a nerf for him what I want is to be able to parry. Cause when I play rouge and I go in to attack someone I get in about 1 or 2 hit in before they turn around and clobber me but if I was able to parry the attacks that are coming at me, and the opponent doing the same, I think it would make the pvp and pve aspect more engaging then it already is. Now if they are swinging a great sword I shouldn't be able to parry it with 2 little daggers. Having the ability to parry would ,imo, would make the pvp and pvp more engaging and much better. It would also allow non melee focused classes able to defend themselves when someone gets in close like when I have a crystal sword as a mage, I should be able to parry a few attacks, not as much and a more melee focused class would be able to though.

[misty minnow]

Should a general stash between characters be implemented?

[slender solstice]

are you joking?? they nerfed barb into the ground with the movement speed reduction and potion stack reduction. walking backwards during a fight or even walking at all while wearing a chest piece and weapon in hand now feels like your shoes are tied together. the Barbarian is advertised as the strongest character in the game so you shouldnt be surprised that your getting out dps'd when your backed into a corner. during the April playtest for example the barb felt like you could actually move around and there would be intense and fun melee fights between fighters and barbs that were often very close. Now however i find myself being a pin cushion for archers and wizards from across the room that i have no chance of closing the distance on because im a fucking tortoise now or ill get into a fight with Fighter who can just pop move speed, side step my attacks and counter without fear of getting hit.

[dense fjord]

nuh uh

[pallid epoch]

Add Goblin Playable race. Reduce several stats and make it to where it gives slightly better loot? Or nothing. I'd be happy with goblin in any capacity

[prisma sonnet]

have devs said why they dont put 3 man escape portals in the howling crypt map? i think the 3 man escape portals are awesome in the ruins

[normal thorn]

I'd assume because the intent is for you to go deeper, not just escape
Hence why there's 3-man down portals but not 3-man out. Though I don't recall if 3-man out spawns on the next floor or not tbh
Since ruins has no other destination tho, it makes some sense to give parties a guaranteed escape at the very end.

[prisma sonnet]

ooooo

[jagged flicker]

I'd like to be able to heal strangers w/ bard but the Tranquility is currently Ally only. My suggestion would be Player only. So mobs are exempt.

[blazing acorn]

suggestion: make “luck potions” give you luck that is actually noticeable. i’ve leveled a cleric and rogue both all the way to 20 using luck potions in most of my geared runs, and literally cannot tell any difference in loot.

[stoic mesa]

So, having played about 15 games of Warlock now, I think I've got a handle enough of my first impressions of what we have of the class to maybe throw some suggestions out there and see what other people think. I'm no master, this is just my take as your average Dark and Darker enjoyer after a bit of time /w the class.

The Good

• Physical Design: I mean, our Warlock models are certainly the correct base models to give us for the character's thematic.

• Weapon selection: It's interesting to have a spell-caster that can utilise a broader array of weapons. I myself have personally enjoyed running a Crystal sword, but I like the idea of being able to bust out a longsword at a given notice, and lop someone's head off because they've gotten too close to me.

• Armour selection: Again, much like the weapon selection, having the option to pick up some slightly beefier armour is a nice option for a Warlock, as it really gives them a surprising amount of survivability when piloted with any degree of competency. You can get away with more than a Wizard can, but you're still not the tankiest of fellas around. It's nice to occupy that middle ground, especially with slightly higher HP you get as a 'lock.

• Phasing: I mean, I get to tell Barbar's, Fighers and Rats to piss off and not hurt me until I'm repositioned. What's not to love? Easily the strongest ability the lock's have access too, and by far and away one of the best 'decision time' buttons there is.

• Curse of weakness: Amazing debuff spell. Probably actually a bit too strong at the moment at a 20% reduction. Suggestion: Drop % reduction from 20 to 15%. As locks get more stuff and people learn how to play them better, much like the Cleric's bind, this could become an absolute nightmare spell for people to play against. It should be debilitating, but not crippling. If not reducing the reduction, maybe up the HP cost. It's still quite cheap atm imo for the debuff it gives.

The Meh

• Spell selection: This DOES also come under the bad, but we'll get to that in a minute. At the moment, the Warlock's spell repetoire is.... a bit underwhelming to be honest. We don't even currently have enough spells to fill out the hot-bar really, and of those that we do have are very much bottlenecked by skewed numbers. There's also the issue that the 'lock's most important spell is simultaneously one of the most underwhelming. Pain-ing your target when you have the correct talent on to restore HP helps to contribute to that good survivability I mentioned earlier, and even can remove the need for healing items if you play your cards right.

The bad

• Fire: Lock's 8 HP cost spell is, quite frankly, a bit of a joke. Whilst it does AMAZING damage when it hits a target, you almost never want to use it, especially when you're in a party. The problem the spell has is that due to its slow speed, it essentially is relegated to area-denial or clearing enemies out of specific slots. Good vs mob train, awful in most pvp situations as its effect can be achieved with explosive bottles etc. Suggestion: Up the travel speed so people at least cant walk backwards away from it!

-Pain & Agony talent combo: This is currently required for locks. Good heals, but pitiful DPS overall if not multi-targeting. Suggestion: Make talent part of spell, otherwise you've only got 3 slots to pick from as the combo is essential to keeping yourself able to spam spells in a fight. Managing your curse is key to staying alive and doing decent dmg, so at least let us pick other things. Perhaps also up the tick slightly?

There's other stuff to talk about, but I don't have the character limit! The positives are great, but the lack of variety in spells, and the weakness of several lock spells means that you have to work twice as hard to get half the result a semi-comptent wizard would get. It's a promising begining, but I feel the class needs some serious work before it'll be competitive vs others!

[grim fiber]

use a sword like the others xD

[vagrant kelp]

decent way to sum it up. love the design and concept of warlock right now this middle man between mage and melee as well as the balance between using ur hp to cast and healin. i do think the healing on tick damage should come without needing to pick the perk it is essential to the point you cant pick it without trolling

[gray skiff]

Man doesnt understand economy. If the arrows were free rangers would have more money. If they had more money they will have more to spend on bows making bows more expensive. Arrows being free will not save you any money since they will just drive up bow prices

[pure niche]

It would be nice if the party leader in the lobby didn't have to wait for everyone to click ready and then start the game, if it could be like when everyone has clicked ready it just starts looking for a game.

[vale knot]

PLEASE add bigger gold storages like my inventory is entirely filled with gold

[astral swan]

Add a coin chest that cannot be carried into raid, it can be bought for 500 gold from the treasurer, a 2x2 or 4x4 chest that you can store 10,000+ gold

[spice stump]

please consider giving us enough character slots to make 1 of each class with a hold the line edition purchase at least ( including bard + warlock )

[jovial arrow]

make it so that if you cant pay trade fee you can't enter trade chat (tired of seeing "One of the traders does not have enough gold to pay the trade fee.")

[zenith fern]

Give us the option as button to target myself with abilities. Because in its current state I cant use my abilities on allies or enemies when in fact the ability for some reason does not want to target the enemy, no matter how close or for how long I keep my crosshair on the enemy or ally.

[stable rose]

so.... my best warlock runs have been without using any spells and running all the perks that have either nothing to do with spells or at least give some passive bonus...... kinda yikes moment when i play the warlock the same way as a i do barb and fighter and experience easier success than trying to use the spells. which, ive already reported this in the bug forum, but the soul collector perk is def never being consumed, or not working somehow. even when trying to proc it with the dark reflection ability-which explicitly states that its dark magic damage- it does not consume the 30% bonus dmg buff. just a psa for any1 wantign to try warlock- from a guy whos made it to lvl 13 with 500 gold now

[summer drift]

Bard is in a great spot right now

[cinder folio]

Yeah bro its also every class that can solo cave troll without gear

[pseudo gulch]

Nice economy change. 1 dead and no money for better gear. 0 loot on the map. Goblin cave farm simulator. Could you change to previous value of loot?

[misty minnow]

Should the Wizard and cleric start with a spell book instead of a staff?

[cinder folio]

They would need staff + book then

[soft finch]

Skill issue

[late dome]

[autumn haven]

should be able to send items to other characters on your account

[misty minnow]

Yes for wizard, cleric has a mace

[golden sparrow]

Starting with a book would be a huge buff unless they buff the staff

[misty minnow]

I guess they could make a basic type of book that just loads spells slightly faster and doesn’t get in the way, but has no other buffs

[eternal cradle]

what is wrong with people accepting party invitation and immediately leaving? They should put a penalty for that

[misty minnow]

The problem with the staff is not the lack of buffs, or even the casting speed, it’s that it gets in the way when you’re trying to cast

[golden sparrow]

The cast time on book is the fastest in game, at least it was in the last pt

[misty minnow]

They could just make a basic type of book that does not have this buff

[golden sparrow]

It's not a buff, it's the animation

[misty minnow]

I see. I guess they could just prolong the animation.

[golden sparrow]

No thanks, keep the book animation the best

[plain basalt]

Suggestion for ironmace: keep being amazing

[misty minnow]

Hi meant extend the animation for the starter book, but not for the other ones

[golden sparrow]

That sounds like a lot of work for the devs just to make the staff even more useless lol

[misty minnow]

Or I guess they could just shorten the existing animation of the staff

[golden sparrow]

Or change the cast animation so that the player doesn't swing the staff when they cast. They could have the cast animation be more like a "poke" with the staff so it doesn't hit walls and cancel the cast

[gray skiff]

Idk how it is with actual spells, but it says its consumed "when casting dark magic " I dont think a perk proccing counts as casting.

[pure niche]

"This channel is for discussing suggestions and feedback."

[merry kestrel]

Zwei first attack should be a stab

[soft finch]

Why?

[merry kestrel]

So that i can get a hit in before it gets stuck on walls.

[soft finch]

Have you considered not fighting in super tight areas with your massive sweeping weapon?

[late dome]

We should be able to equip 10 rings, one for each finger, or perhaps some toe rings as well

[merry kestrel]

But i need to swing my massive sweeping weapon to assert dominance

[soft finch]

Then do it where it won't bounce off walls

[merry kestrel]

But goblin caves is nothing but walls!

[rugged eagle]

I'd love this since we already have skeleton

[soft finch]

Nah there's plenty of rooms in gobbo caves where zwei can work

[slender solstice]

Barbarian melee combat is a total joke now lmao i move at a crawling speed. All a fighter has to do is wait for me to swing, back up at the speed of a normal person to dodge, and they are rewarded with a free headshot

[soft finch]

You need to hit them twice with starting gear they die

They need to hit you like 6 times

[slender laurel]

I cant hear anything thats behind me unless i turn around? my sound isnt in surround sound but stereo like always, how do i fix weird audio

[hoary beacon]

is it me or rangers do too much damage? headshot does 50+ dmg and leg shots slow you for 90% and they can use melee weapons if caught out like the spear for example.

[edgy cape]

can we have pink torches

[snow pewter]

add 2fa options for our accounts pls

[livid nest]

So I have downloaded blacksmith and the game, the game is up to date but, the update button doesnt change to 'start' or 'launch'. Whenever I click update it instantly gives me a notification that the game is ready but the update button stays there.

When I try to launch the game from a folder, dungeoncrawler.exe I get this error 'XAudio2.7 is not installed. Make sure you have XAudio 2.7 installed. Its available in the DirectX End-User Runtime June 2010' I have tried installing directX again, even searched XAudio2.7.dll files and replaced it in system32 and sysWOW64. Updated windows, Updated GPU drivers, reinstalled blacksmith and Dark and Darker 3 times, checked files integrity (Scan and Repair). I ran out of ideas, every other game works perfectly fine. Please help, I've been struggling since yesterday.

[keen lotus]

can we have a warlock spell that revive monsters ?

or bard actually with the flute

[cosmic terrace]

Can we have a warlock spell similar to the wisps attack? Lower damage but reliable

[granite plinth]

Game without stolen code lol

[hushed arrow]

How do I get acces to make suggestions in #d-and-d-suggestions ?

[crimson palm]

It is like that right now…

[little moss]

why would i check insinde the cadavre when i'm trapped

[sly kayak]

Thoughts on a perk for certain classes to stack consumables up to 2, so that there is a cost associated with sustain rather than inventory clutter?

[merry kestrel]

New general perk, all consumables and throwables gain +1 stack limit

[limpid pelican]

Rangers are ridiculously broken. They need a severe nerf. Shouldnt be able to 2-shot a fighter or barb while also running at super sonic speeds.

[stoic hull]

I feel like its not fair to make it to the end and then get unlucky that the extract spawns below you. what do you guys think?

[winged mirage]

would be nice to get a blue on each floor yes.

[soft finch]

Put your weapon away and run my gamer, extracts are not guaranteed

[ember hearth]

Yeah 1 guaranteed portal on the final small circle would be nice, probably will encourage some intense fighting in final bubble too esp in caves.

[sudden nest]

probably already been suggested however game needs to display a players preferred region in the player list

[arctic shadow]

nty

[soft finch]

At least in goblin caves I believe there is one

[plain basalt]

Swap the radial spell caster menu for a hot bar

[stoic hull]

one guarenteed yh but it can spawn level below you

[soft finch]

Best practice is to preemptively try and clear all mobs in the region before final circle and stay on top floor as it's easiest to go down instead of up

[flint yarrow]

Can someone please help me- don’t know where to report a bug, I don’t see it already listed somewhere, but crossbow bolts are not recoverable on bodies. They go through bodies and stick to floors/walls.

[rugged falcon]

#report-a-bug

[crisp nymph]

There should be a right click report option in the trading, to report the gold sellers

[lyric yew]

It would be nice to see how many spectators you have after they took a dirt name like a little 👁️ counter for the number of dead people spectating.

[stoic hull]

whats wrong with people trying to sell gold

[crisp nymph]

For real money. It's usually hackers.

[stoic hull]

doubt its hackers but id just be wary when buying from people in any game

[crisp nymph]

It's not allowed lol, don't do it at all. It's real world trading, against the rules

[stoic hull]

i know some poeple in third world countries make a living from sellinf in game currency, i saw it in bangladesh a guy would just sit there and play 8 ball pool all day and he told me he sells the money

[neon furnace]

Can we lower the hitbox on fireball it is much bigger than actual fireball

[radiant oar]

Warlock feels kinda weak

[vital rampart]

please make it so alchemist sells clarity potions 🙏

[azure sky]

Eh, the current fireball is fine. Its large explosion but does jack shit damage

[faint vigil]

does upgrading to the founders edition give another 5 bluestone shards ontop?

[gilded silo]

How about a hardcore version of each dungeon where it doesnt show the map? hence not showing circle...

[azure sky]

I would assume not, since when you buy the founders edition straight out you also only get 5

[trim hollow]

Does anyone know when I can buy Chaf cash for red stones?

[thorn solar]

Please consider raising the number of character slots so that each account can have at least one character of each class

[granite plinth]

cleric lesser heal tier 2 pls 😦

[rustic kettle]

Future Content --> 2v2's Elven based dungeon , 5v5's Orc based raids? pogChamp

[lost carbon]

I miss the 3 layer system from the first day of Playtest 5. Would love seeing it return even though people complained a lot

[soft finch]

There was no three layers, it went from Ruins to catacombs, it didn't go further into hell iirc

[lost carbon]

Would still love to see it

[soft finch]

Bruh lmao

[summer drift]

Imo daily quests shouldn't have anything to do with pvp or highroller, they should be simple time sinks that anyone can complete to incentivize new players to learn the game and keep playing

"Collect 5 bones or skulls"
"Kill 10 skeletons"
etc
Assuming daily quests are on the table

[small nest]

I wish we could still stack bandages

[rigid sundial]

I would love to see a friends list addition to the game, it would make inviting friends a whole lot easier (I'm sure the devs have thought of this and are implementing this soon)

[small nest]

there should be a future map where there is no zone like max 15 players and its about as big as the goblin caves. except theres a time limit of like 15 minutes before the caves collapse. so you dont have any threats other than players mid match, but if you didnt make it out by the 15 minute mark you'd insta die

[soft finch]

No zone would make portals even harder to find lmao

[small nest]

exactly

it would make players have to search and most likely encounter pvp looking for a escape, obviously I think the map should be smaller than the normal maps, like 3/4th the size

[soft finch]

Without a circle pushing people together pvp would probably actually be rarer

[small nest]

smaller map, maybe less portals. would cause players to go lookin for those portals around a small map, bumping into each other

[proud spoke]

Can we add patch notes to the start screen, like we had in last playtests.

Mostly to detail the fact that troll loot is now a shareable pile. So many people tried to kill me after I kill troll, often resulting in them not seeing the loot pile, or trying to loot it and dying to some other player/ fog anyway.

Easy full inventory of greens/blues+ for anyone who gets a decent circle

[gloomy nacelle]

Wizard should be able to wear occultist set. Either that or give wizard a wizard only set.

[lethal salmon]

Lockpicks should be purchaseable from a merchant

[kindred rivet]

Add in the damage numbers to the game not just on target dummies.

[merry kestrel]

All weapons and (most) armor should have a grey option permanently available at the merchants.

[hot plume]

we neeed a ping system

[west coral]

we need a way to transfer items between characters (with a gold cost or smth)

[weak vine]

They should make holy purification do damage to people with skeleton skins

[merry kestrel]

Bludgeoning weapons should deal extra damage to undead enemies.

[gloomy nacelle]

if they did that then i'd want them to also be immune to poison.

[weak vine]

I mean that would make sense 🤷‍♂️

[high wyvern]

agree on this one a little too much, what if you bust your ass in highroller, kill the lich/ ghost king, and get a unique bow, guess your SOL if youre a barb, rogue, cleric

[merry kestrel]

Sell it on the market for mad cash

[high wyvern]

true. but what if you wanna hoard it, use it on a all blue/purp gear on a ranger

[west coral]

maybe you actually want to use it tho?

[merry kestrel]

Have a friend help transfer it over, only costs 30 gold

[west coral]

i mean yeah but they can make a way to do it straight up

[merry kestrel]

Fair. 30 gold delivery fee would be the same same.

[high wyvern]

yeah i guess that kinda subs it a bit, but what if you dont like playing with others often, either antisocial, or only plays with groups to do difficult tasks

[west coral]

and what if u didnt have friends?

[merry kestrel]

Fella, do you know how easy it is to make friends in the class channels?

[high wyvern]

I guess if youre charismatic enough, but my luck is when i hop into an lfg they dont wanna use mics, and they die from their causes and blame it on others and leave

[inland trout]

warlocks skills need a bigger hitbox

[merry kestrel]

Warlock self heals need a balance pass first. They scale linearly with healing power.

[inland trout]

im point blank hitting people with them, and it goes straight through them doing nothing

[inland trout]

is this a good or a bad thing?>

[crisp nymph]

Bad, for the game. If someone has let's say +7 magical healing power, and their spell lifesteals 1hp every tick of a dot then they would heal 8hp every tick of the dot. Scale that up with insane gear, and they are healing upwards of 20 hp every tick.

[inland trout]

jeez

i just want for forgiving hitboxes and a little more range on my spells

[dark skiff]

How about a trade channel in the discord?

[inland trout]

there's already a multiple trade channels ingame, that work fine lol

[red rock]

I made a suggestion to add more training dummies in the beginning area as most of the time ( especially now so close to EA release ) you only have like 6 seconds to run to the middle of the area
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471387/add-more-training-dummies-closer-to-players-spawns-in-the-beginning-area
uppvote it 👍

[merry kestrel]

Please show advanced weapon stats on the tooltip, such as impact and stamina

[lethal light]

Stamina?

[merry kestrel]

How much impact you can block

[lethal light]

Ohhh, it’s the same for all the weapons and shields :3

[merry kestrel]

Not what i heard, spear is lower than shields and longswords

[lethal light]

You can’t- no wait- that’s not-

[upper sonnet]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471394/delete-magic-staff-from-the-game-until-its-not-awful Upvote because the Magic Staff is awful and makes starting as Warlock or Wizard painful

[kind wasp]

we need a flea market kind of trading thing instead of what we have rn

[blazing bough]

NEED TO WAIT THE FINAL CIRCLE LAST LONGER

[wary condor]

I like the ruins map but the incentive to play in my opinion is lost when most want to play on the howling crypts. I think they shouldnt be seperate maps but make the Floor 1 Basement 1 basement 2 model again and just make the ruins map more of just a small easy buffer before the crypts so that most the game is still played in the crypts but we still get some fights and gameplay in the ruins.

[blazing bough]

I killed 1 or 2 people for the exit so many times just to die from the last zone, it's not enough time late game for fights. let people fight late game

[jovial tinsel]

Rangers should be able to pick up their own traps if they haven't been triggered.

[mossy cypress]

there should be a fill option when queueing, so that you can still play the 3 player game mode and not have to be solo or rely on other joining through invite menu

[autumn musk]

Game coming back to steam or no?

[granite moon]

100%, this

[kind wasp]

[granite moon]

killing people late game isnt rewarding cus you dont have time to loot

[mossy dock]

Bring stackable potions back

[woven marsh]

I don't complain much about the stuff that is in this game; on the whole the game is a masterpiece. The Cicada monsters in the Goblin Tunnels need to be removed. They have shit loot, they deal way too much unavoidable damage, their targeting distance is nuts. There are already bats and acid spitting dragonflies; there is no point to having them in there. There's plenty of monster diversity in the caves.

[signal mango]

damn, suggestions are closed? I wrote up a whole post with math n shit

[undone bison]

Is there anything planned for item rotation system in your inventory and stash just how tarkov has it?

[lofty dew]

idk if its just my play style but as a more support based cleric it is painful trying to level up. earlier today i was level 5 on my cleric while my friend made a brand new ranger and he caught up to my level in like 6 matches, i think that using support based spells and abilities should be rewarded more xp than it is right now because levelling is painful, i haven't played much bard yet as i want to get my cleric levelled up but i assume bard also has a similar issue.

[wary epoch]

this drum shit is broken, remove it

[proud jasper]

how can I make a suggestion about a class?

[merry kestrel]

What

[inland trout]

Is warlock dark reflection good?

[granite plinth]

buff worm loot its crazy that it can drop cracked golden braclet only and other shit items i can get better loot killing skeletons

[wind harbor]

the high roller circle closes way too fast after the first circle it's nearly unplayable

u actually arent allowed to loot after first circle

[stuck perch]

Can we get the ability to transfer gold to and from different coin purses by stacking them like we use to?

[gusty scaffold]

Revert healing items stack size. Everyone is still running inv full of pots its just a tedious change

[sudden geyser]

vendors selling 3 bandages and potions really screws people who can't survive a round

[digital shuttle]

Cap on specific characters per team…. Ran into two triple cleric teams with + 45 armour from perks and blessing themselves to +9 will/agility/strength

[woven marsh]

THIS

[woven marsh]

This is fixed it they make it a duos map.

[sick idol]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471427/attack-speed-stat

[nova laurel]

god please yes I hated every single test because of the godawful start

[cinder folio]

agree,

[distant gate]

literally just about to suggest that, maybe like trading house, Pokemon GTS style market

[unborn steppe]

more players per map pls

[keen sage]

50 blue portals at the end of every map, lost 2 purple sets because i cant find a blue, or some rat takes the last one, very annoying

[normal lava]

Would be nice if they added some stairs like goblin dungeon.

[limber kiln]

I'd personally like to see them add some more time to the final zone OR just not have the zone insta kill you at the end - let it kill over time.

So many end game fights not happening or getting end game kills with no time to loot.

[rustic zealot]

Players need to be able to clip through spiders and flying monsters but should take small amounts of damage if doing so.

[stuck perch]

Small flying monsters, the doombat in B3 shouldn't allow players to clip

[indigo basin]

Does anyone know if guilds or guild houses will be coming in the future?

[sharp siren]

You must hear rogue's footstep when their invisible or it is just unfair

[rustic zealot]

Great. Why should a player get stuck by a spider or flying creature? I'll wait for your logical answer.

[wind harbor]

storm should scale in dmg instead of insta killing at the end that is extremely braindead

[fair gyro]

I suggest more character slots

[terse dawn]

u do

[sharp siren]

Maybe there's a bug to report then, because i swear sometime it doesn't, i had a couple of experience me and my group weren't walking, listening to sounds on other room, then suddenly a rogue appears behind our mage. and i repeat, it didn't happened only one time, but a couple

[fair gyro]

IDK how the dark works, but I've thought that it would be better if like the farther from the circle the more damage it does and also maybe so its not so hard to see in atleast later inthe game would be better

[terse dawn]

while crouching its very quiet but ive been in situations where a rouge invis and we start swinging and i hear something to my left and hit em

[arctic lagoon]

npc poison should not be fatal or at least not as strong as it is

[sharp siren]

fair enough, but sometimes "very quiet" seems unbalance to me. maybe i'm the only one

[arctic lagoon]

GOBO MAGES CAN TAKE HALF MY HP???

[ocean sedge]

@woven marsh haven't looked at bard buffs yet, are the bard drums songs opop?

[tidal basin]

Please make the mobs weapons hit off objects instead of through them like how us players weapons react to hitting a wall

[crystal lotus]

do you need lockpick for goldenkey ?

[rose lily]

Open up more voice channels

[still sky]

Getting 1 shot through a shield, can we get this shit fixed.....smh.... just the basics

[lunar solstice]

Why are there so few channels for teaming up? you guys need triple the channels

[green beacon]

woodsman should have a service tab that lets us exchange arrows for bolts and bolts for arrows. no gold, just 1 to 1 exchange of ammo

[obtuse verge]

PLZ PL ZPLZ PZL ZPL ZPLZ FIX BODY COLLISION IN THIS GAME

[sinful thicket]

please add a 2 person queue... We have solo and trio queue. Why not duo? doesnt make any sense.

[toxic pulsar]

tfw no bard auto instrument swap

[gilded vale]

bro ive died to storm so much on gob caves theres too many levels and storm doesnt close next to any stairs and instakill is so annyoing

[proud spoke]

Always try to get to the highest level near the end, its easier to drop down a level than find stairs to climb!

[gilded vale]

thats true, alr thank you

[ruby canyon]

they should slow down those beetles or reduce their dmg or just remove the slow effect they do

[tepid parcel]

How do I start a suggestion or maybe I should search because im sure someone has suggested cooldown timers be a part of the skill descriptions

[pallid epoch]

Dude nerf Rogue double jump, playing against 2 rogues flying in circles around me is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in any video game

[gilded vale]

how about just nerf rouge

[empty trail]

How do you guys feel about them giving warlock a flachion for it's starter kit? At the moment starter warlock is insanely hard to pve with because staff is terrible in melee but it feels like they are pushing warlock to be a melee caster hybrid similar to cleric.

[stoic hull]

faclhion would be op

[wicked smelt]

How do i submit a suggestion?

[upper sonnet]

Crystal Sword would be a lot more balanced for a starting weapon

[lapis sierra]

The vertigo caused by bats need a serious reduction, I have never felt motion sickness before from any games I have ever played, but I just encountered 5 bats back to back and my head is spinning and I'm holding a bag because I feel like I'm gonna vomit any minute now.

[polar storm]

honestly allow warlock to use another one handed weapon, I think a dagger or short sword would be fine

[woven lantern]

Offer Name Changes for IRL Money. That’s not pay2win and just qol

[fossil musk]

Make the name Eollin allowed in game and not considered inappropriate, unless there is something I am misunderstanding its not considered a foul word

[spring vine]

please make potions stackable in the stash. or allow us to expand stash. or just make a separate stash for potions!

[gritty hare]

How do I make a suggestion?

[honest owl]

I think headshots are a bit too powerful (in melee) and even the best quality helmets don't seem to make a big difference

[crisp nymph]

The trading filter of item type should be for slot (Weapon, Helmet, Gloves, Cloak) , rather than what it currently is (Cloth, Leather, Axe, etc).

[patent bison]

Damn. If I feel sick enough to be holding a bag I can't even look at a screen.
How did you manage to type that? 😂

[arctic lantern]

Can the end circle rules be changed? At current when you survive till the end after the map is completely enclosed by gas it seems after a certain amount of time you just instant die despite the amount of health you have. There wass no warning or indicator that this would happen so instead of extracting lower I died and it killed me and my friends.

[lapis sierra]

through sheer spite

[patent bison]

Fair enough.
It is rough. I fought one in goblin caves on my ranger and had to switch to melee cos there was no way I was hitting anything with a bow with that status effect on me

[lapis sierra]

i definitely like the status effect, i think its a cool status effect and gimmick, i just despise how over the top they made it

and placing 5 bats at the same place is definitely cruel

[patent bison]

I didn't know there was a spot with 5. One was rough enough for me. Can dodge it when there is one but 5? That'd be me dead lol

[lapis sierra]

as a fighter i just held my shield up until they had grouped into 1 spot, then i circled them while slashing

it probably wasnt helping my motion sickness that i also had to run in circles on top of everything spinning

[patent bison]

I think bard has a spell that does the same thing to people?

[green estuary]

Races and classes can't be bought with red shards, keep these only for codmetics. Basically paying doesn't give grind speed (probably suggested i assume)

[patent bison]

Apparently thats already going to be changed. They are going to be made free like the other classes.

[green estuary]

Free or just grinding? I'm okay with grinding them even though we paid for the game. just not paying to speed up the grind

[patent bison]

Like, unlocked by default. No unlocking needed. Like the other classes

[green estuary]

What about races?

[patent bison]

As far as what I read from Terrence, the change will be for classes only.
Its still being sorted out and discussed by the dev team.
I can't post images here but if you just search for posts from Terrence you can find it.
Could also add search term of "class" or "classes" to narrow it further.

[floral herald]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471456/subscription-model-to-createjoin-guilds

let me know what you think about my suggestion, it's an idea to sustain the company and the playerbase without any pay2win aspects

[patent bison]

Can't you post to suggestions? Or paste the text here?
Not gonna click links I don't recognise.

[floral herald]

that is the suggestion page lmao

Is there a way to post somewhere else?

[patent bison]

#d-and-d-suggestions

Or just put text instead of links.
Links are not allowed on the discord unless from a trusted source anyway. Its in the rules

[urban depot]

My friends and other people are talking about the progression system for shards and how long it takes to get them, maybe the requirement should be reduced for avg players?

[patent bison]

Check the above conversation.

[floral herald]

No idea how to post there.

[arctic hound]

Suggestions looks locked atm, no posts since last playtest

[lapis sierra]

they probably got troll suggestions like
"i suggest you release the game already"

[arctic hound]

Yeah bunch of dingbats did that alot

[patent bison]

Didn't realise it was locked. But yeah, coulda just posted the text here by now. You making that link look more and more sus even if it is legit lol

[arctic hound]

I'd like to suggest a <Made by Playername> on crafted items so us smithery nerds can get the brand out there.

[patent bison]

Love it

[floral herald]

I'm pretty sure it's the official suggestion forum through the darkanddarker website??

[patent bison]

Is it? I dont know lol
But honestly would have been less time and energy to just paste it here.
And easier for people to read.

[lapis sierra]

i might not be able to play goblin cave until they lower the vertigo, im scared of running into bats that someone have kite into ordinary corridoors

[wind harbor]

add duos

[mint pagoda]

Remove class-based market, just let me search for the things i want

[solar meadow]

cool suggestion
mobs cant swing through solid walls

[dawn patrol]

Please uncouple the mining speed from resourcefulness or perhaps make it a separate skill that can be improved with playtime. There is no reason why mining on barbarian should be agonizingly slow for no reason.

[proven plover]

Is there currently a way to gift this game to a friend?

[vagrant stone]

can we undo the changes to meditate so its not so nerfed, it was fine before

[coarse night]

HOW ABOUT make it to where there is some actual loot in the dam dungeon theres just junk all the time like locked chests should have at the very least green piece of gear like whats the point of playing the game if your never getting enough loot to be able to come back from dying in normal dungeons wheres theres super geared people taking your shit all the time

[keen fog]

When you have a shield on both weapon sets they both show up on your back, minor of courtse

[keen fog]

make an account with their email then buy it like that

[storm cargo]

how does a goblins bola do 40 damage? the point of a bola is to tangle up your targets legs, not to murder them. just a thought

[lapis sierra]

since this is where ironmace take their suggestions now, i guess i will leave a link to my suggestion
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/471463/reduce-bat-vertigoconfusion

[lime grail]

Yea dude the bolagoblins are mega broken

[compact barn]

Parry the bola fools with a longsword and chop them in half!

[storm cargo]

also maybe for the ai they shouldnt be able to shoot a bow if you are literally beating their skull in, if I were a 3 foot green guy with a walmart kids foam blaster bow that for some reason has the average floridians blood on the tip, I dont think I would be able to pull back the string when my skull is more broken than bethesda games

[floral herald]

Can't understand this, please use more metaphors

[summer cipher]

We definitely need stacking of bandages/potions, maybe just make it to where they dont stack when on the utility hotbar?

[storm cargo]

I couldnt if I tried, but if you really cant understand, if a ranged ai is being attacked by a melee weapon, their firing animation should be interrupted when they get hit. This would go for the goblin mages, goblin archer, goblin bolaman, skele archer and skele crossbowman. Skele mage I think is balanced cause hes kinda like a mini mini boss yknow

[floral herald]

Just joking haha honestly I think it's fine it makes you have to kite intelligently. Although bola goblin is insanely hard to might as melee I could see that needing a nerf

[storm cargo]

Idk man just my opinion

[red remnant]

I would love to see +luck on gear

[languid spoke]

resting to recover health is too slow. the main problem is it's not fun. at all. make it take longer to stand up or something and double or triple the recovery rate.

[gloomy nacelle]

there needs to be a rarity limit to gear in normal goblin caves, getting tired of rogues in full blue and purple just ruining the match for everybody. also double jump was a mistake just remove it already.

[patent bison]

Just a tip for building up gear.
Don't wear the first piece of good gear you find. Save it until you get some more and can go in with a few pieces. It makes a much bigger difference to be wearing a few pieces, rather than just one and then dying and losing it.

[wise turtle]

What you proposing is called rating system, devs said it's never going to happen

[lucid vortex]

I want to be able to jump over goblins. As ALL classes. Thoughts?

[wise turtle]

Bonfire and bard songs are useful because of this. But I agree , they should make bonfire dirt cheap

[gilded ether]

Matchmaking takes roughly 15 seconds. I wouldnt mind a low-roller queue with less loot and maybe 12 or 15 players, would rn have no effect on queue times for normals

[solar meadow]

quivers for arrows, quiver could hold 30 arrows but you can only carry 1 quiver and other arrows would stack like normal

[woeful aspen]

Buff warlock please

[solar meadow]

warlock is actually really good you may be playing them wrong

[woeful aspen]

In pve it's good but pvp is really hard to do any kills

[eternal nebula]

Halve cave troll health!

[oak orbit]

Make it so we can drop a bag of gold over another bag and it automatically fills one of them to 50

[rose stag]

Locking warlock and bard behind paywall/grind is really unfortunate. After a few hundred hours I’m still not even halfway to unlocking the last class

[gloomy nacelle]

It used to be like that but they removed that QoL for some reason

[tame eagle]

People are joining the solo high roller dungeon as a team and farming the boss making 1-2k gold each a run should probably do something about that

[granite plinth]

They can shoot through walls…

[ebon idol]

And what exactly should they do about that? How would they even know who "teamed" and who didn't?

[tame eagle]

probably fucking disable the shit dungeon

[granite plinth]

How though?

[frosty marsh]

❤️

[ebon idol]

Cry harder