#q-and-a
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what’s the difference between spellbook/crystal ball?
So it's not good to run just that unless you never fight in corners or halls
I get your point so both have different uses makes sense
thx for answering all those questions 🙂
What are everyone’s thoughts about the Exp gain for doing specific actions?
While leveling a barb and my buddy on cleric I seemed to level WAY faster due to killing things while he stayed back and buffed me. Do you not get much or even any exp at all for healing and buffing allies?
No, every weapon has a combo that you can see damage wise on your character sheet in detail. Some weapons have bonuses to combos. The Castillion dagger is one such one. It gets like a 30-50% increase or something, I'd have to look
You get nothing for healing/buffing. To power level cleric, go to rooms with skull bats and AoE kill them all
It's not ideal, but it helps
In general if you only heal you'll have a bad time unless you go to the bottom floor over for the XP jump
Because just going down 1 floor gives a large chunk of xp
Even if you die
Interesting, thank you
What I did on Cleric was kill stuff
Also, for stat people, here is some things
Is this on purpose? Like to dissuade full healing builds?
Is there any idea what the depth of stats and weapon bonuses are going to be. Such as significantly deeper and build forming to in a comfortable place
Not really, we aren't even in Alpha development, this is super early in the development. I'm sure it'll be worked on
Yeah, makes sense
Right now there are for sure diminishing returns for things, but absolutely stat thresholds to
The green stuff in that is what stat changes what
does +magic damage and +true magic damage apply to each magic missile invidually?
Yes 😈
Does true magic damage apply to the poison dots of rogue tho ?
I don't believe so
like I think it's 4 dmg per stack so if you have + 2 its 6 ?
But the dummy doesn't show poison/rupture damage ticks so it's hard to verify
But I'm pretty sure it doesn't
okok good that would be too OP i think
imagine building a full poison dmg build lol and hitting once , the guy takes 60 dmg from poison
make sense it should not be modifiable
it does, but the dot is shown at the bottom of the dummy for some reason
Is there a detailed list of mechanics anywhere?
I found out throught hotfix notes that campfires restore spells
Not currently
Sorry, had some birds in the house fly in 😄
u have to use the ancient scientific method of fucking around to find out xD
Damn dude sad to see knowledge and resourcefulness are nearly entirely useless right now
Very much so, and not used enough
Hard nerf to spellcasters
Not really, because they are still good without them even
@whole sluice u can be my second senpapi now after @digital quiver uWu
very nice
It'll just be rebalanced and tuned when they are inline
I think wizard needs a slight buff IMO
Maybe casting magic missile while moving?
God no
u will also recieve the uwu daddy msgs daily xD
Magic Missile while moving would be sick
Wizards just need to realize what they do well at and stick to that. They play too much like a frontline battlemage when they aren't equipped like on
^
does crouch/slow walking make any sound to enemies?
Yes, but reduced. Also it's based on footwear
I think wiz is great where its at currently. with all the spells at their disposal you shouldl be able to dispatch 3 man teams provided you know how to work the environment to your advantage and know how to use invisibility to reposition properly
yes, u can reduce it more by holding shift or fucking around to find out on your own!!!! 😡
Yeah I don’t do that I help my allies and attack from afar but magic missile projectile speed makes it feel very hard to use against anything but PVM
Magic missile is awesome. Even IF they dodge, you are focing people to hide for the entire cast time
This gives your team chances to reposition/withdraw
True but your allies too because friendly fire is massive lmao
If they are dumb enough to charge, you kill them
ty, so is it same as when you hear ally footsteps its 100% same for enemies?
RUSH EM BOYYYYYYYYYYYS
No, your own footsteps, and your allies, are exaggerated. Similar to games like Hunt Showdown
oh ok
I really wish you couldn’t buff enemies as funny as it is during combat
so with the nerf, how to make rogue good?
Or slow allies
Even with the nerf they'll still be great
Maybe im wrong but in my experience it seems like our wizards need to be more conservative with their spells
and i think ranger's improved hearing is broken atm
Like... That one ability and slight damage nerf doesn't make them bad
fucking around to find out? lol
By being wise 😄
I always save fireballs for pvp shit is massive
why nerf swift and barricade?
Until my fighter runs directly into the AOE after I’ve warned him
Because they were overtuned
Find a new fighter 😄
Can’t he’s also insane in pvp
Or tell him to stack HP and Will so he can sit in your fireballs
I just haste and invis him
madcowqq Do you know what a ranger should be building? is it agility only /// what do u build for rogue pvp
I’ve given up on DPS he two shots anyone lmao
Depends on what bow you use tbh
is he insane if hes eating fireballs XD
barricade is just not good now tho
Longbow benefits more from AGI than Str for the most part until you hit certain thresholds
ive been using longbow but the slow mobility murders me
thats it my wisdoms telling me to move to korea become closer lol
It is
haha 😄
elaborate
Sniper bow needs slow move for balance
guys, how can I stop sucking at the game? I'm afraid to buy anything and use it because I die so much 😦
I just say fuck it we ball
what class are u playing
buy stuff, use it die, gain experience understand more
yeah that makes sense, so str build is the survival // recurve bow ig /// this makes sense UwU/
Not here for discussions and trying to convince people, just answering questions 🙂 You can hit up others in discussion challenges with fighters for more clarity
Everything getting deleted in two days so time to fuck around
Just play and use everything, get over gear fear and you'll eventually improve.
Personally not a fan of recurve. Long or Surv is the way imo
im just glad i have more days to fuck around and find out
I've tried Fighter and Priest so far. got them both to lvl 15
Do you know anything about the mechanics of spawns for the skele key?
Fighter needs gear to survive
is it big ol red?
Does anyone else never get gear fear in this game but do in tarkov?
It spawns on the ground one of B3 variant maps. 10% chance
continue to play and don't be afraid of losing. You can't be instantly good with only theory. You need practice AND every advantage that gear can offer you
also play in groups
Sometimes spawn in a skeleton boss, if im right
I’m just not afraid of losing stuff in DnD for some reason
The one with shield
so its on the ground and not a drop by a rare spawn or something?
dont be afraid to buy that slightly better weapon, the gold comes and goes
You're thinking of the Golden key which is not the same
Correct
ahh i see, cause my fighter friend with gold equip he was super fast, crazy tanky hp // armor and still killed ppl like crazy meanwhile me i just get rekt by a rush rogue or something
hello beautiful sages does the pavise shield count as armor on your back when wearing it on your back
May be i am
Oh shit Fr?
Rogues in general fuck things up
how do you get golden key?
Different keys
No, and it doesn't protect from hits either on the back
Whats the best way to determine priority stats/itemization for each class?
Anyone figured out how much health do the bosses have?
I'm probably in a wrong channel but are there any guides on classes here? Like which skilss are best, etc.
Right now experiment. Basically HP for dmg/HP, AGI for attack speed, Will for casters
Aw damn. That would be an interesting concept
Is your hard work catalog'd somewhere I've been just reading your message history for knowledge and its a lot of info i was unaware of.
There is more to it than that, but it's a 'rough' start
Golden key is from L2,it opens centeral chamber when its locked
If i recall correctly
Nah, having no worries about getting hit while crouched from behind too strong 😄
In my head mostly 😄
F
O i had a question, is there a breakdown on what knowledge wisdom and those stats do for casters?
Knowledge doesn't do much right now
Games up everyone, go... Play.. Have fun!
Thanks for sharing, was getting mixed reports of skeleton mages / champions dropping em. appreciate u senpapi #2
I gotchu
Can’t share it here but there is
Tell my boy krapst i said uwu daddy IYKYK ;P
Yeah, I'll telll Terence 😄
:))
whats the cooldown\ difference between rupture and weakpoint attack?
Is weakpoint worth now?
15 and 20, or 20 and 25
But 5 between them
YES. Even nerfed it's still strong
weakpoint shorter?
50% more dmg is 50% more dmg and they take more dmg for 5 secs? very good
Weakpoint has longer I believe
Is Duel wield barb a thing?
Anyone got a clue on how much health do the necromancer/ghost bosses have ?
Is warcry good on barb over reack attack or rage>
do you mean the normal ones in the dungeon map or the hell boo
Hell bosses, necro that summons skeletons around him and the ghost boss surrounded by flaming golems
lich isnt very tanky but its hard to get hits in at all
Does anyone know how the pickpocket rogue perk works? On paper it sounds pretty useless.
the ghost boss i have no idea
I die to the blanket every time.
If you have it equipped you can approach an enemy player in a match if you are within touching distance. A prompt will come up where you can 'pickpocket' them. You will then 'steal' one item from their non-equipped backpack. If they have nothing to steal it will let you know
quote the maddcowqq
We've engaged it with 3 decently geared rangers and each one of us got in like 2 triple shot rotation and multiple regular hits before we eventually died to his arena wide aoe, so I'm curious how close we were as there's no health indicator
Sounds tough, did you all leave the room together at some point?
Useless. Plays the chest opening animation, you steal a random unequipped item from their inventory.
Because I have heard he can reset health if everybody leaves
Is there ever a situation its worth using? Because it doesn't sound like it.
Nope we were in the room the entire time. Circle forced us in.
Damn
i havent personlly used it i favour the more dmg heavy sneak build
Pickpocket will stay useless unless you can choose items
And even then it’s super niche
I can picture youtubers doing some funny stuff with bear trapping the players and then stealing their stuff. But that's just content. Otherwise it is useless.
can anyone give a break down of what each stat does? like what is will or knowledge amplify?
Check the guide in game, bottom right on main menu
search from: MaddCowQQ and you will see the a excel posted that shows stats, if it has green it affecs if red doesnt or if nothing doesnt
or just scroll up far enough it wasnt that long ago
thanks
@whole sluice i just lost my gear 😦
to the server crash wtf
rest of my party kept their gear but me
i had yellows and golds 😦
fuckign sucks
how did my party keep their loot but i didnt
even stuff i was dropped by them they kept its like we never went in the game
🤷 Dunno
Will there be a way to rotate items in inventory in the future
If there is going to be it would make sense for it to only be for a few items, but I wouldn’t count on it
What does +2 Spell Capacity do? I'm on mage and only have the default numbers
Has there been any mention on spectator mode being fixed/adjusted
Spell capacity is not functional in this playtest
Magical healing is from spells, physical is from bandages and healing pots
ohh thanks
I found the plaque describing the heroic feats of @whole sluice and his victory over the Lich. What a gigachad.
im so hyped for streamer items!
i mean more like playerspecific items they dont have to be streamers ig if they are a legend on the discord
does higher rank gear have any hidden stats or is it better to run white gear that has better stats than blue gear ?
cool for those that loot me maybe, but i'll stick to uncool stuff than 😛
Hey maddcow training dummies are showing poison ticks
Yeah, someone was telling me it was below the dummy
Or it wasn't in when I tested a long time ago
But good to know so I can test things 😄
How to pick up players soul?
take of their chest piece
take their chest armor off to get to the soul.
and you need to have their soul in your hands to use it on the altar
You can't pick up enemy souls, but what the others said is correct. Remove their chest armor and take it
uh.. anyone else stuck in 'trying to find a match'?
are you slowed while swinging 2h
Everyone is slowed when attacking with any weapon
Link to patch notes? Heard there were some nerfs
cool
Thanks didn't scroll up enough
However, I do believe the slow is different for different weapon sets
There's been a lot of announcements since midnight lol
Hey what’s the advantage of using a wizard a spell book? If you have zero stats on the book, wouldn’t the staff be better since you can actually attack with it?
Faster move speed
I think the main benefit is ability to move faster
Staff sucks in hallways because if you hit a wall it can fizzle, also move speed is different
Casting animations are different for each spell foci
Ah! Yeah I’ve found that crystal ball and rondel dagger is really fun
Just to change it up
Ey guys how do I highlight/advertise my items on the "TRADE" tab? Im left clicking, right clicking, crying, middle clicking what do I do :D
Shift click
It says on the page before entering a trade channel how it all works
thank you kind and most handsome stranger, I cannot read and have the patience of a dying old man
much appreciated
Hah, no worries 😄
are we meant to be able to kill things through chain doors or is this abusing a system?
err iron doors
okay
I know that knowledge is supposed to increase buff duration I believe
I think it's knowledge anyway
But not sure if it's working, it wasn't at one point
Sorry
It's will
Will effects buff/debuff durations
However, I don't believe you can see that total on the character sheet currently
So I don't know how much each point/threshold would work
But having higher will would effect that
Sounds about right
Thats a good ting to bring up about the screen I would like to see them add
Ya
Would also like to see a total +phys, +true Phys damage total etc...
so is the lich and the ghost king on the same map??
Same floor anyway
But they won't both spawn in the same iteration
Because there are 2 variations of the bottom floor
And each one has a different boss
Pretty sure the boss is tied to the layout variation and not RNG
But, small sample size and not what we went in to test
but the ghost king is way harder right?
My friend and I can't queue into matchmaking, even solo after the hotfix
🤷 Haven't played around with them much tbh. I know that people were exploiting earlier, but dunno
If you are NA East its a server issue, try NA West
Servers getting hammered after restarting. NA East is generally the most popular
Any reward at level 20?
Nope
does the barbarian carnage buff apply when you kill AI or just a player
How does a cleric replenish his spells?
a campfire can give you back spells IIRC
Where can I go to learn about the stats and what they do>?
does anyone know what resourcefulness does?
Fopdoodles button in the main menu lobby area
Regular Interaction Speed
Which floor?
Thank you madd
thanks gamer
Sorry if this was answered before, but I've noticed that you can get knocked out of invisibility early as rogue or wizard without the step counter being expended, or the timer running out. Is there some other things that can knock you out of invisibility?
Are higher level campfires going to restore more spells or restore it faster? I am thinking the 2 campfires for resurrection spell is going to take too much time to actually pull off.
Interactions can knock you out
Wizard is time based only. Invis can be broken by doing any actions
No, higher tier campfires only change deploy speed
Is there any idea of adding a bigger backpack or being able to purchase a bigger backpack?
Understood, but sometimes I see as a wizard, I cast, move like a step, and then its over, even with walking. Same with rogue. No interactions
Backpack space will eventually be tied when backpacks are put in as well as resourcefulness working correctly
Not sure, if you have video footage I could take a peek, but hard to tell without seeing what is happening
Also weight will be a thing but not sure how that will work either
Thanks, I'll see if I can capture some footage today. I'm thinking theres some in-game variable for whats happening, and maybe someone knew about it (number of people lookiing at you, amount of light hitting you, nearby enemies, etc)
Nah
Is there a way to interact with a trap through a dead body?
Is there a plan to make traps reduce movement speed instead? its not nailed to the concrete.
If anything it's prally server latency issues
Nope, known issue for the first one about trapping bodies
Which wizard spells considered "arcane"?
Magic Missile for sure, and I'm 99% sure invis and haste
magical interaction speed?
Supposed to be shrines and portal stones, but I don't think it's working as intended
are you supposed to be able to sell silver coins to the treasurer?
You 'buy' gold coins
From him
think currency exchange
what is the cooldown on reactive shield?
can someone explain how the lockpicking mechanic on the rogue works? i tried lock picking a chest last night and i was honestly confused, i was getting anywhere from touching the red to staying in the yellow parameters and it seemed like it just keeps resetting?
You have to hit space
If you hit the 'red' it opens instantly
If you hit the yellow portion, it allows you to continue
Anything else and it just succeeds when you are done
does the progress reset if you get outside of yellow
Yes, cuz you missed
i have keys rebound.. is space for jump hotkey?
Question regarding the merchants: I see they have hearts. Do you eventually get better wares or prices with them?
Is there a difference between a blue staff and a white staff? They seem to be the same, anything implicit?
How do you avoid the Lich boss targeted aoe one shot?
Reputation, quests are not in currently
Nope
I see, thanks
Blue/Purple aura everyone needs to stack on eachother to disperse damage, red get away from eachother
What's better between book, orb and staff? Just take the fastest movespeed one?
The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.
Oh so it spread damage, thank you
My pleasure
Yes - jump hotkey.
ty s
I assume the timers on the merchants are also currently meaningless? Their stock changes every time I come back to the lobby regardless of timer.
They reset based on timer or escape/dying from missions
Oh, okay'
how does the rogue pick pocket perk work? "you can steal an enemy's item from the dungeon"
Sorry for the questions, not familiar with the Escape from Tarkov genre
Also the orb lets you cast while fighting with a dagger as it's a one hand option
I tested that you get one random unequipped item if they have one It breaks stealth as well
If you have it equipped you can approach an enemy player in a match if you are within touching distance. A prompt will come up where you can 'pickpocket' them. You will then 'steal' one item from their non-equipped backpack. If they have nothing to steal it will let you know
No worries 🙂
does the enemy know they got pickpocketed? haha
If they see you not killing them yeah
It needs to be instant imo, otherwise why not kill them and take it all 😄
Yeah, currently yes
If they pay attention to their inventory they will see it disappearing
how do I link items in the trade chat
Shift right click
Thanks, the trade chat and trade rules did not include hotkey tips unlike the stash page. I had to type every item's name lol
The page before entering a chat channel explains how to link 😄
Is there a way to buy multiples of items from merchants at once?
Nope
Early development is early development
Madd do you have any idea if proximity voice/text chat will be coming in the future?
They said they are looking into it
how do you cast spells?
Just curious - could you not get the enemy stuck in a bear trap - pickpocket their shit and run?
Equip a spell foci and right click
If they don't see/hear you in a trap sure, but only rangers can put traps currently
Hmm i am but doesnt seem to be doing anything. Im trying to cast lesser heal
So takes 2 people to take 1 item, when you could just bop them and take all their stuff 😄
What do you have equipped for casting spells? Staff or book?
true - only reason to do it is to embarrass them lmao
I want to reverse pickpocket with notes that say, I was within 1 foot of yo and spare your life
oh i just have mace and shield... its the default setup 😮
Staff and book are for spell casting
Swap your gear
Clerics have a staff default gear
ahhhh i see
Press 2 to equip your staff
So uh, odd question. Does the dog in the tavern have a name?
how long is the playtest for?
Otto
Ends Tuesday Morning EST
If you go to pet it shows the name
oh, of all the times I never seen it. I tend to use the emote while looking up and down.
Have the devs said anything about possibly a text chat ingame? Strictly for your teammates only?
Not that I've seen
Aw. Kind of awkward switching between the game and discord. Me and my mates are all deaf so voice chat is out the window lol
heh. I think they will do something
Waht does Pick Picket do?
If you have it equipped you can approach an enemy player in a match if you are within touching distance. A prompt will come up where you can 'pickpocket' them. You will then 'steal' one item from their non-equipped backpack. If they have nothing to steal it will let you know
😄
Plus 5 physical power. How does it factor into damage on a weapon?
5 Physical power is 'roughly' 5% more damage. However, most stats have thresholds that change per point. What is your physical power before equipping it?
Worth dual wielding? or just use best damaging weapon? (on rogue)
Oh shoot, I was asking for a friend so he could argue a higher selling point @whole sluice
So I’m not sure the stat overall. But I appreciate it!
Depends. Dual wielding gives animation cancels, combo chamberings, etc...
Sure thing 😄
Did they changed lich boss? I had 151 hp, sticking together with my teammates and the purple rings one-shot me
Why were fighters nerfed
I would guess cause they were and probs still are the strongest overall class
they just made them so much slower by nerfing swift that I don’t even wanna play it lol might as well play barb
how big of a difference does trap expert make?
isnt barb slower?
does quickfire work with crossbows?
no
yes
Even with the nerfs to fighter I still can't fight them as barb.
So fighters are being shifted into being a jack of all trades. So yes, Barb is stronger at specific things that barb does better. Fighter is just the best 'all arounder' which is what they are designed for
That doesn't make one better/worse than the other, it's about about how you use them
theyre a lot like the sword and shield from monster hunter
@whole sluice on the Lich, when he casts the spell under you, you need to stack right?
their versatility is deadly
yeah that was a bad take ngl im just salty they nerfed that swift perk
stupid question. what is the Q ability for clerics?
Exactly.
default is a big aoe dmg to undead, very good for PVE
AoE undead dmg
how big of a difference does trap expert make?
ty!
kk thanks SObad
looked like heal ;P
why jack o lantern doesnt sell bows ?
how come when accepting a trade request, the trade window does not load? I've clicked Yes on so many requests
I can attest to this as there have been times as rogue I would use stealth crouch and take maybe 1-2 steps and stealth would break(while having the stealth perk)
It’s a bug you have to reload your game
And you were only crouching or only walking and not default 'sprint'?
If you have footage upload and show to #989065208087576596
I was holding the crouch key, sadly i do not have footage. as i dont record. Sorry.
yeah, this is a common bug it happens a lot. You just randomly get out of the stealth
How do you equip dual wield as a fighter? Is this feature even in the game yet?
You have to equip a primary and a secondary weapon
No weapons are both
Search their name on the right and ask them to trade fixes it sometimes
ahhh, i see, thanks !
What changes from a white Spellbook to a blue Spellbook?
nothing changes
Your hopes being dashed because it does nothing 😄
damn, thanks!
@cedar steppe may i ask you what ur perks are as a cleric while killing lych?
If a bow has 45 damage and the stat to add 5 damage, does that mean the bow does 50? Or was that already calculated in the 45
can I ask how to not die well swinging my axe as barbarian xD
So it would do 50 then.. nice
Swing then move, use buffs
Whats the difference between a staff and a a book for a cleric?
You move faster with the book, but you can't use the book as a melee weapon.
To be fair, prally more because it doesn't reflec t your Physical power as well, unless you have less than 15 strength in which case it'll do less
@sonic solar thanks man
na I was saying that because my attack speed is so slow a fighter can run up to me stab me three times in the head then move out before I get a single swing off
You might need to work on your positioning and movement then, see attached #dnd-content message
Man literally printed a receipt 🤣
It was partially the axe I was using the double sided battle axe is just bad
Barb is very high risk high reward. Need to be able to position well, speed is key and knowing when to swing and when to back up. Its not your traditional "i can go 8 rounds" barb, its closer to "theres a good chance you wont win this, back off"
Does pavise block arrows when it's on your back
I believe of all the starter kits, barb has the best one
No 😦
Damn
Thatd be broken as shit tho tbf
Which barb skills are best?
WHERE CAN I FING GOLDEN KEY NOW?
Kill the skeleton boss
or buy it off flea market
Oh is that where it drops from? The dude behind the double doors in tower?
Skelly with big shield and horned helmet
Yes - there is a few of those bosses on the map - Unsure if the one in the middle has higher drop % - I did find one on him tho
Cool ty
Drop % is 10%
Until you get bad RNG and don't get it after 15 times 😄
Has anyone beat the lava monster yet? I’m curious on it’s loot pool
The B3 ghost king boss or the lava monster in the lava?
The lava monster in the lava
Hey Madd, the death bat things seem to get glitched into the floor when killed with a downward swing
Ghost king is the one that spawns skeletons in right? @rugged axle
It had a legendary necklace you know
Thats lich
Sadge I was hoping it would have a bandage for me
how high can u stack gold in stash @whole sluice
If I shoot at lich then leave the room does his health go back to full? I noticed he kinda resets
Currently? 14.5k if you fill your entire stash AND peronsal inventory with money bags
Lava Monster is an ordinary(albeit awesome) inferno(B3) monster. It can drop epic grade equipment.
Is there anywhere that lists the Wizard damage for Fireball + MagicMissile?
Like actual Attack adamge Number (Integer)
any idea when the east servers will be fixed @whole sluice
🤷 Sorry
So does anyone know if lich resets when you walk out the room? Or can you just shoot him, walk out, shoot him walk out
And no death? Lol
He resets HP pool
shot
Did you end up killing him?
How much raw hp does lich and ghost king have?
just not by playing with him in and out of agro range
And skeleton boss on b2
is there a point in not using spell memory as a wizard? i assume there is no "base spell"?
Correct, unless you want to be Battle Mage with no spels 😄
does anyone know what will does?
i guess that's a joke, don't see any other skills that would benefit a no-spell memory build xd
Magic Resist Resist Rating Magic Power Bonus Magic Power
what do i do with my 2400g?
and my Ferrari
what'S "window can be used" mean in the ranger perk
Give it to me
Can use spear
Does +magical damage still do anything for rogue?
that's a weird way to say a spear can be used
Buy overpriced legendary and candy corn
Its a missed translation from Korean to English
oh lmao
No
how does mob aggro work? Had a big shield as ranger and thought I could block while mobs finished the guy off, nope mobs aggro shield guy 😦
Aggro is roughly first person to come in proximity, but they can shift randomly
Is US East up yet or still fixing?
does cleric level up through healing/buffing allies? or do you have to kill things
What is the best starting setup for the fighter?
Idk if it is a bug but the zone ended in that maze thing and no escape portals spawn in the maze ive come to notice
happened to us
we were forced to go down
we tried going down but died to storm idk
my friend had to die because I was holding all of our loot and the only blues were in bosss room
he died opening it for me
What's the best strategy to kill the lich with a ranger, cleric and fighter party?
Does the shied not block some attacks?
Pretty sure you need to point your shield towards the attack, kinda like in Chivalry
How does pickpocket function? Do I have to be stealthed? Can I loot pickpocket normal enemies or only human enemies? Is pickpocket just a noobtrap?
It doesn't explain how to use it
yeah its weird I've been doing that but it still doesn't block everything. Maybe a bug?
Noobtrap dont use
U only get 1 random item
Pickpocket someone after killing them
Oh that's less exciting than I thought
If an armor piece has +weapon damage does it still apply?
Its worthless
How To Kill The Lich Boss Guide + Treasure Hoard Loot
https://youtu.be/ym3r6OAjsGc
Gotta kill stuff
Yes
Cool, ty
No worries
Is xp for kills only or also extract/treasure?
Not treasure, extract yes
One sec lemme get my list
XP is earned by doing pretty much anything. Killing players, killing AI, opening chests/corpses/portals, escaping, taking a down portal. The largest chunk of xp is going down to the bottom floor followed by escaping.
That being said, opening portal stones I don't think gives XP this playtest, but not enough data for it
Bless you.
Can anyone confirm the bosses HP(lich and ghost king)
How To Kill The Lich Boss Guide + Treasure Hoard Loot
https://youtu.be/ym3r6OAjsGc I also just posted a Ghost King video.
thank you
i didnt understand shit
thanks strel
Hahaha purple orb needs to be dragged onto a monster else it kills you. Stack together for purple aura it splits damage to group, i rec killing some archer skeletons but mainly focus on lich.
To be fair it was less guide and more just showing how to do it.
you dont really present the lich kits or talk about strategies there however
i d be happy to know more about the boss
so he only has 2 moves?
the orb and the aura?
Yeah my apologies the Ghost King video is an actual guide i was still learning to edit last month
Yup and he shoots a magic arrow but those are his only big moves
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https://youtu.be/uKULTFV9HRM in this I actually explain the mechanics of the fight but its part of a larger video talking about the map. It is timestamped at 3:03
if u have an in-depth vid of taking on the lich, i'll gladly watch
hey how does the crystal sword work it seems like its just worse then the staff
3:03 is the mechanics explained
Crystal sword has different cast animations, but does both Phys and Magical damage (The only weapon that does magical dmg. btw)
Is there anything that let's clerics heal more? Like for instance will?
There's straight buffs from purple+ item bonuses.
Do your stats increase with levels or you only get perk slots for now?
No stat increases
Stats don't change
Will and +Magical Power
Hoping stats never end up increasing from levels.
is there a write up on each attribute and what they do?
Personally, I like the idea of 'floating' stats every 4/5 levels. So at level 4/5 you can take 1 stat from say Strength, and add it to Will
That way you can slightly customize, but still retain total stat totals
Check the fopdoodle button the main menu or #❓faq
ahh yes its in faq lol classic im that guy
All good 🙂
That'd be neat, particularly if you are allowed to respec it.
Straight additions to stats from levels is what I don't want to see.
@whole sluice thanks, appreciate it. The current stats explanation is pretty good, but tends to still leave out a few key items. Like rogue poison and bleed. Still don't know what increases the damage for those.
And I almost like your idea. I feel every five levels should allow you to allocate your points differently by +/- 2 but never giving you more or less points.
has anyone played around with drinking ale on a cleric with brewmaster perk? seems like alot of str not sure how much it translates into raw physical damage but that plus smite could be interesting combo
The boss fights rn are incredibly easy. The litch has 4 or 5 abilities and the ghost king literally only has one mechanic that you have to worry about and it’s super easy aswell
Phys damage I believe effects them, however, I need to test the dummy
Str. is 'roughly' 1% more physical damage per str
Yup
Not bad if you are running a battle cleric.
can you drink 1 of each quality ale? lol the bonk cleric making his way
No, the strongest sticks
Battle Cleric with Smite + Judgement and no spells is pretty good. Use the Flanged mace and go bonkers
Oh, @whole sluice do you know if the Perseverance perk works with bleeds and poisons?
I didn't notice any exceptional change when I was effected.
@analog topaz here's the issue with making it harder, the time you have in B3 with the difficulty of the current enemies is a bit mismatched. If the bosses are harder, the time in B3 needs to be increased imo
Which one is preserverence?
-3 from all damage cleric perk.
Not too sure, haven't tested combat interactions
I initially looked at that perk and it seemed bad but if it interacts with bleeds and poisons like that pretty interesting
Hmm, my hope was that it would more or less negate most dots due to the numbers being fairly small.
play with coop= get out every single time
play solo = hide in a corner and get lucky or die
if you play solo turn off all the lights behind you and keep the doors open so you can flee into the darkness
I understand but the ghost king is a literal bot
but you can 1v2 or 1v3 in this game
I've been running at groups this test as a solo and I'm starting to be able to fight 1v2 more.
Yeah, same! I've started to develop some tactics to fight a little smarter
Isn't strength also max hp so the strong ale effectively gives you a 30 hp buffer?
Also they can make it harder and make it take longer. The ghost king is dying in around 30 seconds. The litch I wouldn’t touch that much but he’s still extremely easy.
Yes, but he was specifically talking about DPS. Each str. is 2HP
Oh gotcha
how can you and your group escape at the same time?
triple exit portals
Find 3 portal stones relatively close together, or wait for the 2nd to last circle shrink where portal stones pop up in groups of 3
can you cast spells on yourself as a cleric? (if so, how?)
Cast at your feet. You can't use the big heal on yourself
Can also cast looking up
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Sad I can't post them D':
You can cast on yourself looking anywhere as long as you're not looking at a targetable entity.
Damn teammates moving at the last second.
Howdy, Been playing a bit of cleric and just wondering if two things are supposed to be in the game or are bugs. Cheers
-Lesser Heal healing dead mobs
-No being able to cast holy light on self.
Holy light is that way, yeah.
And targeting is really janky, I've put protection on an enemy fighter before because of all the strafing.
Not using holy light is intended, lesser healing is related to targetting which is somthing they are trying to fix
wow that was quick! thanks
I tried playing cleric, I got spell memory on E. When I use use, it just opens a select wheel. But I tried every button, can't find how to use the selected spell
I can’t sell anything on my main character, getting the result code 10 error even when I restart is there any known fix?
Someone with the same problem as me? I get 50 FPS when there's open places or crowded. If not, I am 144 FPS
Personally I take those items into a dungeon and drop them, let some other poor shclobb deal with not selling it 😄
Any ideas on why I can't put an item in trade?
Does a second weapon's stats apply when im not weilding it?
for example on my ranger if my sword has ++ true physical damage, does that add it to the bow when im using the bow?
right clic raises the shield
does the ressurect with cleric work? just tried it in a game and it did nothing
MaddCowQQ — Today at 3:02 PM
Right click
Also need a spell foci equipped
Like the staff/book
oh ok nvm
😄
thank you xD
You have to aim it at the corpse and cast, it's like 20 seconds long
Can't move or anything
Secondary (Duel wield) yes, second set, no
aww that sucks, thanks madd
It’s every item in my storage
Not sure then, sorry. Don't help much with tech issues
No worries
its just me or cleric takes 10 hits to kill a simple skeleton?
Basic mace sucks, and smite helps a huge amount.
Does the damage bonus of Ambush apply if attacking out of an Invisibility potion? What about wizard invis?
Protip: The greys you start with are actually worse than the greys of the same item type you find
have not seen 3 person portal yet
they only spawn at the very end
How does one kill the boss on the second level with a duo team? I play cleric, my friend plays fighter. 🤔
I keep having major issues and want to make sure it's a skill issue and not equipment or wrong class
Heard using melee js a pain.
Which boss? Litch or Ghost?
Has anyone made like a newbie's guide for this game? I read through the "quick and dirty" game guide but I keep getting slammed undergeared and outranged.
Is perseverance on cleric good, the -3 damage from all types. It seems to small to matter but dunno if it's something where when it's being used helps a lot
The ghost you can prob solo
Does magic damage stats on cleric apply to the in hit magic dmg skill?
Focus on getting out with gems. Buy decent gear from the merchants and level
Its better in lower damage frequent attacks. It really depends on if it works on dots which I am not sure of.
How hard are the lava monsters to kill with melee?
Are there set points where I can go out that I can aproach to leave or do I have to pray to stumble over one of those out portal pillars?
Portals only.
Unironically until you have good gear, and good gear is defined as purple gear with relevant bonuses to your class, you are going to suck no matter what because the starter gear is very bad. Focus entirely on looting as much as you can and getting out ASAP. Buy purples from vendors if possible, otherwise use the trade channel and pray you find some good items cheap from people.
What's your estimate of their hp?
fucking 16 damage, YOU NEED 10 SHOTS TO KILL SOMEONE
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Is armor rating based on whole body or body part?
probably wrong trader
im trading with other players x)
Entire
Can't post in the chat or can not add to the trade box?
so no helmet but god tier chest negates head too?
woah. so no body part specific armor
Yup
You still take 150% more damage in the head
@whole sluice You got any idea on this one?
ive been bashing barbarians in the chest for no reason then lol
right just making sure armor on boots matter
Haven't tested tbh. If I 'had' to take a guess I'd so probably works, but not sure
how does pickpocket work ?
If you have it equipped you can approach an enemy player in a match if you are within touching distance. A prompt will come up where you can 'pickpocket' them. You will then 'steal' one item from their non-equipped backpack. If they have nothing to steal it will let you know
If you can get close enough and not be seen and not be murdered, you get an interact option which fills a very slow progress bar. When the bar fills, you steal one random item of any size from the targets inventory. If they have nothing, you get nothing. It is entirely not worth taking at all.
Are there any plans for custom lobbies with friends do we know?
obviously with no progression#
is the cleric perk against harmful effects active? what does it work against? or what are harmful effects counted as?
I'd guess any red status effect.
Hey just a quick question, are the lava monsters in the 2nd level supposed to be able to hit you from anywhere?
Aggro'd one and ran away (because I didn't have range) and i was being attacked throughout the map
If I got a piece of armor that has +5 true magical damage does it apply that bonus to melee weapons or just mage spells
Spells + Crystal Sword
Is U.S. East back up yet or no
i run the 5% blunt damage boost, 20% undead damage boost, improve healing by 5, and reduce damage by 3. i think its nice, ive definitely had some close calls in PVE and PVE that i can say i would have died without the reduce damage perk
i also run cleric with all heavy armor and do a pally style gameplay
is crystal sword hiden stat that powerfull ? stat vise ball + dagger beats it
Is there one of those treasure hoard piles on the inferno floor and if so on what part of the floor is it
what do spell books and crystal balls do whats the difference
Magical damage has very few people resistant to, it combines both stats. Granted, you aren't going to be amzing with it, but people underestimate the total damage
Yes, slight lower than halfway on one of the variants
The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.
200 g for my Reinforced Gloves W or L?
in the trading menu how do you put the little item displays in the chat
Shift Click
I didn't do it I declined.. how much gold do they go for?
I sold both of mine for 600 g each
I see.. what about Epic Double Axe, Felling Axe , and Spellbook? any idea?
nope
ah well alr
75-200 if rolled well.
hey guys quick question. can you dual wield axes on barabarian and if so how?
Guys, can I have a quick rundown on how shielding works?
do the anchient scrolls do anything?
Vendor trash... For now
Need a primary and secondary
Can't dual wield the same thing
shame got a (normal) one
alright thx
Can rogues use a crossbow or any range at all
50 coins for 1 slot instead of 10
Throwing Knives
Okay so as a rogue on level 3 how do you solo clear
???? You don't
Cus ranger it's easy but rogue it's like do you just take cheese mele fights
Hide and survive
I love solo ranger i buy 12 beartraps with trapping perk and either trap doors/turn off torches but even better ill trap dead player bodies so it hides the beartrap and wipe entire geared squads (got a unique plate pants) while theyre all just fucked in my traps looking down i just triple shot their heads its so fun
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I might have missed it, but do you know the hp of lich, ghost king, and the skelly boss on b2?
Not off top of my head. Haven't been doing any boss testing this playtest
Where do unique items drop from how do people even get them?
Technically they can drop anywhere, (Bugged loot tables) but primarily from bosses on the bottom floor
what are the good stats for ranger like knowledge, strength etc
Gotcha, thanks! Any advice/guides u can point me towards for fighting the bosses? Every time i try i get wiped
@amber totem agility probably the best
aight ty
how can I use a spear whit a ranger class ?
Perk
what is the best class
Love the trade feature but needs to be tweaked so you can stop it from scrolling when viewing items
How do you avoid the lich's slow moving projectile attack? it just 1 shot my whole party and it followed us around we couldnt avoid it
I think someone was saying you have to stack colours
Anyone know where to use skull key in floor 3
what on earth does that mean
During the fight you will get aura's put on people
of diff colours
some you have to run away - some you have to run towards you team
if I am thinking of the right boss
iF IT'S BLUE/PURPLE, STACK TO SPLIT THE DAMAGE
Caps -.-
like group up?
yeah stand on each other
Whats the point of dual wielding on say a fighter or barb? It doesnt seem like you can swing both weapons at once and if you alternate you miss out on your other swing animations not to mention you lose more movement speed by holding a second weapon
okay thanks!
Is there a Meta 3 stack at this point? Cleric seems necessary
Duel wielding for anyone allows you to chamber combos, use the other for stat sticks, and animation cancel
Can you explain the 'chamber combos'? Does swinging the one hand cancel the other's during windup?
No, so lets say you are using 2 weapons with 3 combos. The combo is 'remembered' if you switch to the other attack. So you could Left Combo 1, Left Combo 2, Right Combo 1, Left Combo 3
thats pretty nifty
still seems like a stretch for barb with axes combos being very straightforward
im bummed about the prospect of losing another 25 move speed to hold a hatchet
does iron will perk make you take no magic damage?
if you look at your stats when its enabled it looks like it gives you about 10% more magic damage resistance
I see and Best perks for barbarian? I'm currently using Two Handed Weapon Expert , Toughness , Axe specialization , and Smash
correction more like 15% -- I go from base 11.6% to 26.7%
could anyone tell me what the resourcefulness stat does
is it consistent for a barb to die instantly with the 10% hp perk to a single head shot from a fighter with a bow?
Depends on bow stats
Regular Interactive Speed
ahh thank you
So it might be gotcha
What perks you use btw?
10%hp damage up with low hp, axe damage and no chest.
I see.. I use 10 hp , two handed expert , axe specialization , and smash. Using a two handed axe weapon you become op lol
plus you can easily loot chest and break through doors w smash
Barb just feels unplayable to me
why is that?
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Sorry
Is magic power bonus a straight damage bonus or a multiplier?
Multiplier
Can people see me when im invisible as a rogue? I feel like people can see me
No, but if you vanish in front of people they can see it
So I am completely invisible then, got it
Any idea how long the initial effect last?
The thing that gives you away when you first use it
Right thank you i'll assume it's 4 seconds
So currently I'm running a 22str +15 wep damage and 12 true physical damage bow build. How does true damage factor in. I feel like I do the sameosh damage going with just added physical than true
True damage bypasses all resistance/armor
That being said, your 'secondary' weapon set does not count for your stats
I think he might be able to see those numbers on the dummy - I dont recall if true damage shows tho
Everything is totaled
Yeah I know what true damage is. Just doesn't beneficial over + damage strength or added phys
Depends on quantity
If you have like 20% phys power increase and you do 10 True damage, with no other modifiers, you'll now do 12 True ion addition to everything else
I tested with same numbers on true and added physical. I hit 2 more on a headshot than with true. But maybe dummy doesn't show true proper
True is mostly better against armored players
But when everything is low, true doesn't do much more
Yeah that's my thoughts. Wondered if anyone else had tested
Ranger is silly busted with a full set of +dmg and a legendary longbow
To be fair, every class is 'busted' with full set of +dmg 😄
Yeah but most classes have to get in melee.
And with crouch jumping you can juke like a king.
when you play solo, you don't get matched against solo players?
Nope
Anyone know about how much HP the lich has? Also has anyone seen full map layouts posted?
if a rogue has a dagger that has +3 additional magic damage, would that stack with his poison making it deal 7 per second instead of just 4 per second per stack?
I love running around the corner, hiding and then using stealth to walk back around the corner
What Perk is best for Barbarian... Berserker , Savage , or Carnage?
where do we find skull key? I know it's rng drop but
Can someone give a rundown of the Ghost King mechanics?
@whole sluice do you know the general location? I remember someone talking about the corner of floor 3
Yeah, its on the floor on one of the B3 maps in the top left corner
what does the skull key open?
The skull door
does Quickshot work on crossbow or no?
Also on the same map variant
where is said skull door
No
ah okay thanks
oh I know where skull door is, what about skull key drop? @whole sluice
what about quickfire?
MaddCowQQ — Today at 5:30 PM
Yeah, its on the floor on one of the B3 maps in the top left corner
or is it just true shot that works with crossbow?
Now
I don't even think quickshot does either
It just naturally has a high velocity
... technically yes
There are some versions where they test different lighting so technically they are different, but same layout
@whole sluice Does it do more damage to shoot a fireball at the feet of someone holding an average shield or directly at the person
Haven't tested enough spell stuff this test with the changes to shield
My guess is direct
But not 100%
I would suggest until more is known to hit he shield - worst case you still get the splash damage I am thinking
okay thanks
Im new to the game, how do i cast spells as a cleric, i know that u have to equip your staff but idk how to select spell and use it
Hold E to bring up the dial to select the spell then hold right click to cast the selected spell
Ok, heading out for a bit to go trick or treating. Please hold all questions until the end of the discussion 😄 Take it easy and good hunting fellow darkers
have fun, and thanks for the help
Thanks for all the work you are doing
im quite new to the game, what are decent perks for barbarian?
What Perk is best for Barbarian... Berserker , Savage , or Carnage?
So is there no statistical difference between tiers of crystal orb/spellbook below purple?
does anyone know if the crystal ball has any hidden buffs? i know the spellbook increases cast speed, but not too sure about crystal ball
Sorry, I mean like a grey orb & a blue orb are exactly the same strength?
guys may i ask you what to do if the game says "already trying to find a match"?
i restarded 10 times and nothing happens
can i get a quick explanation on how pickpocket works for rouge
try searching for a game in another region and play a game. Then after you die, re-search in the original region
thank you
worked for me idk if it'll work for you
Do Axes do more damage than swords? I was using a Horseman's Axe, 17 weapon damage, -30 MS and felt like I was doing much more damage than a falchion at 26 damage, -25MS
on a fighter
You press your interaction button. It does the interact bar. You get one random non-equipped item. If they have nothing it will tell you before you do the bar step. It breaks stealth at start
oh so i do have to be behind them gotcha
is there a way to pause the trade chat, it moves so quick cant even see the items when you hover
no at the moment there is not
if people would use the chat for weapons only it would help
but everyone is just spamming in trade chat 1 so
is the eu server down?
thats how itll be in main game, everyones gonna sit in the samechat
Nope you can be in front too but they will stab you
yeah well it's new feature at the moment leave a feedback about it so they will see it
no there is chats for armour/misc and stuff
its just everyone is using chat1 (weapons)
Scrolling pauses it for me
mine keeps rolling
its not really hidden, but you can hold another weapon while you are holding the crystal ball. You can't do that with the staff or book I'm pretty sure.
They should be split by class and type and only let you trade items fitting that chats name
yes but that would mean too many options
Hello. Is there a way or how to prevent the Lich boss attack that does an AoE circle under you and crazy damage after a short while to targeted person?
it just shouldnt let you link armours etc in weapon chat
this is Q and A section move to discussion if you going to talk about it thanks
grouping up to mitigate damage between all
We just tried that and it did not work. 3 of us were left with 10% HP or is that how it goes, with 3 to mitigate?
I guess it was better than the 1-shot I received with ~130HP the previous game. But it's very difficult to understand how to prevent that. Seems crazy inconsistent and heavily RNG
Because we've also received 90% damage and barely made it when it's been only 1 guy in there. Thus the question and confusion about the situation. Sorry for spam.
here comes the boss cow
The damage is spread out and then will auto heal you from the spell effect
how does the pickpocket perk work?
When you are next to an enemy you can interact with them
it will steal 1 random item from their bag
if they have no items, you get nothing and it notifies you.
only in the dungeon and not lobby right?
Do you get 1-shot if you're in it alone then? Cause that's what happened when I had ~130HP, not that much spell res though. And like I mentioned before, we then grouped up and were all left with 10% HP left, but that also happened on a singular member (Maybe he had higher spell resi, but I don't think any of us really do)
Is there any consumable for this, also what if he just spams this multiple times at you? Seems very, very inconsistent somehow
Yup
I believe you will get 1-shot if you cannot mitigate the damage
It splits damage evenly by all in the area when it goes off
You can survive if you have enough HP/Resist, but most of the time you won't have that
Skeleton champion melee attacks seem to pass through most targets, would it be correct to assume this is a bug currently?
The sword has no collision right now
Nope, you can pre pot during the fight, but in general having good gear is generally required
Stack Will+Str/HP
In other words it's a gear check boss then?
So, probably? Not sure if that's intended or not. It still does damage and will break stuff (as I'm sure you've noticed, like doors and barrels)
Thanks a bunch for the detailed reply @whole sluice. Much love! We'll continue trying and improving our mechanics.
What do you gain behind level 20 compare to 15?
nothing
satisfaction, but that's it
Having trouble finding information on the higher rarities of crystal balls/books do they provide any other stats or just more magical properties
atm only epic or higher matters since you start to get extra stats from it
Crystal swords, however, do gain phys/magic damage for their melee hits
yes Im in love with my crystal sword
Under utilized for the aggro haste/invis wiz 😄
whats the difference between +physical damage and +additional physical damage (or magical)
if i as a ranger equip + additional magical damage, does that mean ill be doing that magic damage with my physical attacks?
It has to have base magical damage to gain additional magic damage
Right now the Crystal sword is the only weapon in the game that benefits from +magical damage increases. (Spells don't count, but it works for them to)
Even if it says +True magical damage?
Would it make poison stronger?
so then whats the difference between (+additional magical damage) and (+magical damage)
Nothing really right now
ah i see
I believe it used to however that was changed at the beginning of this playtest.
youre awesome maddcow, always have the answers for me. much love.
I don't believe it did, but I need to test against the dummy more but hard to do when lobbies are instant 😄
Thanksm ok, heading back out
Be well for now
Q: Does campfire reset Cleric's Revive spell?
Yes, however you need 2 campfires to do so
I think they are proc gend, the rooms are all the same however they appear to be in slightly different layouts sometimes. at least on the original map
if a rogue has a dagger that has +3 additional magic damage, would that stack with his poison making it deal 7 per second instead of just 4 per second per stack?
currently I believe that was changed from last playtest as the damage scaling was to high. As of right now, no.
Do you get less xp if you die?
You get XP for escaping.
Oh, so no xp for mobs?
You get some XP from every action
Stronger mobs give more XP
Escaping gives a lot of XP
Going down gives XP, etc.
ahh, thanks! ^^
I believe you even get XP for destroying barrels.
(Could be wrong about that, though, please correct me if I am)
Doing stuff gets you XP, the XP you lose on dying is the escape XP.
Not sure, that's a really hard one to work out.