q-and-a

[hardy hinge]

I've only played on steam deck

its the closest to controller lmao

[austere vale]

Lol

Ok thanks

[weak mauve]

Thanks for the info 👍

[tepid turret]

how do i swap to fist

[flat kernel]

X

[rancid rampart]

if i have a ring with true magical dmg or additional magical dmg and i'm not magic user, lets say i'm ranger, does it still do that magical dmg to enemy ?

[whole sluice]

Lemme test right now

Nope, doesn't add any

That being said, I would want to test it on a wizard crystal sword

Then it might

[rancid rampart]

that would be great if it worked with crystal sword
do you know what the difference is between additional vs true magical dmg

[whole sluice]

True bypasses resistances/armor

[woeful kiln]

Do we have a listing of modifiers anywhere?

[charred harness]

hey think i might be dumb but how do i duel wield?

[whole sluice]

Need a primary and secondary weapon

Not all one handers can be duel wielded together

[whole sluice]

No, we might get one later

[charred harness]

ok thanks

[woeful kiln]

Gotcha shall stare at the market and write everything down lol

[empty badge]

The jumpcrouch is a bug right? Pretty sure it messes with the hitboxes a bunch

[little onyx]

@whole sluice Can you answer a question for me, the light yellow texted items are the unique?

[barren mist]

how do i use my wand as cleric? and the spellbook

[scarlet lance]

Anyone have idea how to kill lich I mean what to do with his IK thing?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[little onyx]

May I PM you with a observation

[whole sluice]

Press E (By default) to select a spell. Equip a casting item (Spellbook/staff) then right click you

[whole sluice]

Sure

[whole sluice]

There are two auras

Red and blue. If you get the blue one, everyone needs to group up and hug. It spreads out the damage. Red, the opposite. Get away or you'll asplode

[barren mist]

Thank you!

[scarlet lance]

OOooooh

And what ybout the second one?

[chrome spruce]

what does agility do

[whole sluice]

What second one?

[whole sluice]

Increase action speed, and physical interaction speed

[limber bane]

So is EXP based on everything you kill? and is it reduced when you die before you exit with the portal? or how does the exp work

[whole sluice]

XP is earned by doing pretty much anything. Killing players, killing AI, opening chests/corpses/portals, escaping, taking a down portal. The largest chunk of xp is going down to the bottom floor followed by escaping.

At first glance it doesn't seem like dying has an effect, though that is not got a large data pool for it

[chrome spruce]

but what is physical interaction speed

and action speed

[whole sluice]

Opening doors, turning off torches, opening chest etc

Action speed is like attacking, swapping weapons etc

Drinking potions, bandages

[chrome spruce]

ahhhh ok

[restive juniper]

How much of the rogue perks/skills stack? Will Ambush, backstab and weakpoint stack or is there like a cap? or is it just a bit bugged?

just did this combo on a ranger for barely a third of his hp

[whole sluice]

It stacks and is disgusting and needs to be nerfed

I can punch someone from behind in the head for over 100 damage

[dark gale]

why the minigame for exit a beartrap start at random times? D:

[restive juniper]

thats exactly what i did with the 6 gold rondel from weaponsmith, and yeah barely a third of the rangers Hp.. seems like it sometimes doesnt connect properly 😦 it was from behind aswell! Oh well im here for the testing we go AGAIN! 😄

[fathom island]

The Ambush perk for a rogue. When it says 'released from stealth', is that from crouching or from the hide ability?

[whole sluice]

Invis pot or hide

[fathom island]

Ty!

[hardy hinge]

I just saw some dude glow orange and run around what is that?

[whole sluice]

Haste

[hardy hinge]

ooo

[golden cedar]

im assuming you cant use quickshot on crossbow

[whole sluice]

Correct

[golden cedar]

thanks

[tribal kayak]

So uh...what mechanic can be used to allow the Cleric to actually be useful outside of a heal bot?

[golden cedar]

bless, protection, ale, smite

[whole sluice]

Smite Donking people

[golden cedar]

in that order

you will hit harder than base barb

[tribal kayak]

It just feels so cumbersome

Being dependent on a combination of 4 abilities, all with induction times just to be effective solo

[spare wharf]

how to open the golden door

at the top of the tower

[whole sluice]

Need golden key. RNG drop from mini boss below it

[hidden mortar]

There a way to increase magic damage or just willpower +?

[whole sluice]

Mostly WP and purple stat items with +magic power/damage

[robust tapir]

is there any kind of database about the game? I'm specifically looking for drop chances, loot tables and item list (with it's stats and possible rolls based on the rarity)

[whole sluice]

Nope

[tidal sundial]

Nope

[whole sluice]

WAY too much changes between playtests to have anything accurate

[fluid iron]

Anyone know if ranger needs strength or agility? Does the bow scale with str?

[whole sluice]

Dmg with Str, Attack Speed with Agi

But Str also gives HP, agi also gives interact speed

[fluid iron]

Thank you!

[whole sluice]

Sure thing

[normal lion]

The intro guide video in the 📢announcement says the first escape pillar appears at 7m 20 sec, is that correct? And is that time left or time passed?

I tend to almost never see them

[whole sluice]

Sounds about right. Time left

It will spawn somewhere in the current white circle which is really large to start

[errant oar]

How do you beat a fighter who has sprint? There's nothing I can do to escape

[ocean oak]

yooo

what is the purpose of longsword alt attack?

parry?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[ocean oak]

And I suppose I have to time it, right?

[whole sluice]

Yup

[normal lion]

of course 🙂

[whole sluice]

The weapon itself is the hitbox, the exact mesh. There is no cone, so you have to intercept where the other attack is coming from with your weapon. Very tight window

[normal lion]

Shields are same, cant just hold them up and hope

[ocean oak]

Gotcha

Yesterday tried to block skelly, got oneshotted

So whoopsie xd

[whole sluice]

Whoopsie

[golden cedar]

nimble hands doesnt seem to do anything?

[whole sluice]

Paassive attack speed when using bow

[golden cedar]

how much?

[sacred canopy]

does pavise do anything besides blocking?

[whole sluice]

Was 5% last time, I assume it's the same now

[whole sluice]

You can deploy them

[sacred canopy]

does not seem to be very useful..

[whole sluice]

Put one down in a doorway and have them choke on the swarm 😄

[golden cedar]

does wuickshot benefit from attack speed

[sacred canopy]

oh huh, its unbreakble?

[whole sluice]

Useful for setting up on the top of the tower and play keep out with range

Nah, you can break it

Othrerwise it would be too much griefing

[sacred canopy]

and you lose it as well i presume

[whole sluice]

You can pick it back up

[sacred canopy]

feels kinda meh. you can't break traps btw?

[whole sluice]

You can, disarm them

[loud carbon]

Is there a difference between the spellbook and the staff at their base forms?

[sacred canopy]

you can disarm as any class?

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[whole sluice]

Yes, the lower your AGI the slower it is and if it's too low, you have to do the minigame

[sacred canopy]

oh huh

i wonder what damage do they deal tho, feel kinda strong

[sly pelican]

Is it just me or is ranger burst fire insane? I can Insta kill almost anybody with it and there is little to no counter play

[sacred canopy]

well, technically you can cover from it or use a shield as counterplay, but burst fire is probably the best ability out there. ability and class balance overall is kinda on blizzard level

[sly pelican]

Even with shield it is pretty hard to stop, have to look up into the ceiling lol

[sacred canopy]

honestly i wish this game had dark souls mechanics for movement/combat and procedural generation for dungeons

[normal lion]

its 2nd playtest, give it time. Dont judge the Q4 2023 release on this 🙂 Just help make it better

[hard canopy]

How do you get the Golden Door to open in the middle?
Multiple Lockpicks and the Lockpick skill didn't allow it.

[pliant briar]

How can I dual-wield as a rogue? I can't equip two daggers at the same time

[runic iron]

there is off hand dagger

[zenith solar]

Golden Key, Its dropped by the New Skeleton Mini Boss, The Bezerker Looking thing. It has a chance to drop. You can also find people selling them in the trader.

[hard canopy]

Thanks 👍🏿

[magic widget]

does will do anything as off now?

[valid swan]

Hi, for"sharpshooter" perk, does it work with every bow or just with longbows ?

[whole sluice]

Magic resistance and magic power

[magic widget]

tyvm

[whole sluice]

Any non crossbow, bow

[valid swan]

Ty vm

[whole sluice]

You're welcome 😄

[proper tree]

What do campfire kits do exactly? Just came across one.

[whole sluice]

Heals you and your party if you interact with it, restores spent spells and skills

[civic shell]

fellow rogues are you guys liking weakpoint attack or Rupture more?

[whole sluice]

Rupture you mean?

[proper tree]

Nice! Cheers.

[civic shell]

yeah im braindead

[whole sluice]

No worries

I take both

And rupture imo

[civic shell]

thats what ive been doing

[whole sluice]

Because you tear through armored ppl

[civic shell]

although i do still feel like a hide build is better when solo

[whole sluice]

Agreed

And is more fun

[civic shell]

trueee

[whole sluice]

I really hope they tap more into the 'rogue' aspect and not just assassin

Because he's too stupid strong right now

I can punch people for over 100

And that is just dumb

[civic shell]

Bro i accidentally punched my barb with weakpoint rupture activated yesterday and almost 1 shot him

[whole sluice]

😄

[civic shell]

its actually crazy

[whole sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-omg-omg-omg-auwai-gif-23814790

[civic shell]

maddcow so do you think i should run rupture hide since im running solo's rn?

ig 20dmg over 5 seconds is kinda crazy

[whole sluice]

Does get physical resists though

But I feel Rogue is an all in class

Hide when you can, but once engaged you stay engaged unless you stack move speed

[civic shell]

yeah true

[whole sluice]

I feel their poison should reduce healing instead of do damage

[civic shell]

hmm interesting

I think the poison just shouldnt stack

that way you can get the same dps by being less full engagey

[fathom island]

Do escape portals appear on floor 3?

[civic shell]

Oh other thing about rogue rn, MOST of the perks are incredibly bad

Pick pocket, trad detection, hidden pocket

all useless in comparison to the others.

[civic shell]

yes but theres fewer

[whole sluice]

Yes

4 of them

1, 1, and then 2

[fathom island]

Ah okay thanks

[civic shell]

also does anyone know how much quieter the silent feet or whatever actually makes you?

[whole sluice]

I mean, just use lightfoot boots

They're the best in game anyway

[spice bay]

Better than using armored boots?

[whole sluice]

Pretty much. The +move you gain is worth the minor armor you get, plus they are the quietest by a good amount

[spice bay]

Makes sense

[rotund cradle]

Even though there is no difference I love my stash of blue tier spell books

[errant oar]

So if level 15 gets you your final perk slot, what happens at level 20?

[whole sluice]

New char? 😄

Yes

[errant oar]

So nothing lol

[light elm]

So is there no way to transfer items to your other classes?

[whole sluice]

Pretty much 🙂

[whole sluice]

Nope

[light elm]

hmm, I wonder why they went that route

[sinful trench]

How to avoid dying in one hit to the lich king?

[whole sluice]

Magic resist, str/hp. But if you're talking about the wipe mechanic, if you have a blue aura, everyone needs to stack on you. If it's the red one, you need to disperse (MMO mechanics)

[sinful trench]

Wipe mechanic ?

[whole sluice]

Yeah, it has a mechanic that will kill you if you don't do a certain mechanic

[sinful trench]

Interesting I need to watch a video or something

[golden cedar]

deos brewmaster prevent the movement speed penalty of ale?

[whole sluice]

Thats not a movespeed penalty for being drunk, just for holding the ale

[golden cedar]

ah

do crossbow bolts fly faster or have less drop?

[rugged axle]

https://youtu.be/ym3r6OAjsGc - How to Kill Lich 3m video

[golden cedar]

which classes can use crossbows?

[lavish elk]

Fighter and wizard I think?

[whole sluice]

Fighter wiz I think

[gaunt sparrow]

Ranger can too

[golden cedar]

do crossbow bolts fly better than bow arrows

[outer elbow]

are spells and skills the same thing? or will other classes have their spells in future? -ie i just saw a rapier with + spell capacity- but no class except wizard and cleric has spells right?

[lavish elk]

I prrsonally think they drop harder, but I have not used them enough to know for sure.

[sinful trench]

thx nice vid!

[whole sluice]

Easier to randomize rolls with crappy stats then to make exceptions. However, they did mention they want to multiclass eventually

[outer elbow]

you mean be able to have a char with multiple classes in one? ufff interesting mechanic in this type of game

[whole sluice]

It's a D&D thing of which this game takes heavy influence

[golden cedar]

omw to multiclass fighter cleric

[whole sluice]

😄

[golden cedar]

does second wind outpace base rogue?

[whole sluice]

Base, yeah, but depends on your own gear as well

It adds 20% to your speed

[lavish elk]

As far as healing? Probably not? Its what 4-6 hp a second or so?

[whole sluice]

Oh, I thought you meant sprint

Sorry, lack of sleep killing brain cells

[golden cedar]

I did, my bad

how about haste?

isnt that a 14% speed boost

[whole sluice]

It's a flat 20% regardless of your move %

[unborn mica]

Is there a way to consistently dodge the skeleton archers and mages if your close to them

[rugged axle]

Strafe but no they fast

[golden cedar]

so sprint and haste are identical?

[whole sluice]

To be honest, haven't delved too much into recent Wiz changes

I think haste is faster

But I'd have to check

[elfin atlas]

I would like to ask how does the "Physical Power Bonus"
affects damage?

[whole sluice]

It's a % modifier after all base damage is calculated

[patent radish]

Anyone figured out who to sell Silver coins to? It says the Treasurer is interested in them but he won't buy them. The only person I found who would buy them is the Armourer but he won't pay for them

[gaunt sparrow]

You buy gold coins from Treasurer with silver coins

[lavish elk]

Its a barter, you "buy" gold coins with the silver coins.

[patent radish]

Gotcha thanks guys

[eternal wyvern]

how do the homing missiles work? also, what does "revive spells at a rate of 40 spell costs over 10 seconds" mean if it only replenishes 2-3 charges from what i can tell per meditation use?

[gaunt sparrow]

every spell has an amount of cost per charge

so when you regain the # of spell cost (which you get by meditating and campfire) required for a slot, you get that slot back

[whole sluice]

Think of spell cost as 'mana' and each spell has a total pool

[gaunt sparrow]

for instance, say revive has a cost of 100 for charge, and a campfire gives you 120 spell cost. you will get a slot back after the fire, but if you only get 80 from the fire (sitting late, for example) you won't

charge=spell slot, sorry if that was confusing.

[whole sluice]

Pretty good explanation, thanks 🙂

[grand falcon]

Quick question, is the devs hiring? 👀

[gaunt sparrow]

This channel is for discussion about game mechanics, but you may find some information about that at IronMace Studios ' website

[eternal wyvern]

i get that, but where can i see any of that? i couldn't even find where i can see the damage or any stats of the spells

[whole sluice]

Doesn't show it. It just rounds and does the backend math for you

[lethal wren]

So quick question: I can check the stats of armor and loot when I'm in the middle of buying and selling, but in the Dungeons, I can't seem to see the stats for those items. Is it possible I can't because of the Steam Deck? Or is it just me know knowing how to get those looked up during my dungeon run?

[whole sluice]

Not sure tbh. Thats more of a tech/steamdeck and I don't have a clue, sorry 😄

[gaunt sparrow]

You have to mouseover the items in your inventory to see their stats. If that is not working with the steamdeck then I am not sure how you would accomplish that.

[terse hazel]

When you're close to an enemy player you'll get a prompt to use your interact key for pickpocket.

You will then start an ACTION (so it breaks stealth) like when you're opening a door and the bar will slowly fill.

Once it's full it'll take one random item that is not equipped out of the enemies inventory and put in yours.

If the enemy has no items in their inventory that you can take it will not even do the bar and just let you know that there are no items.

You can take any size items so long as they are not equipped. It does not let you pick what item to take, it's completely random, and you do not see their inventory.

You cannot use it on teammates.

So yes, it seems Useless

[lethal wren]

Thank you, it's just the steam Deck bugging then. Cause I can't use the mouse button, but the touch screen can move the items. I can see the stats after a run, when I'm in the merchant menus.

[errant oar]

does the "nimble hands" perk for the Ranger just mean you get faster firerate? How much faster is it?

[whole sluice]

Yes, 5% last playtest so I assume it's the same now

[errant oar]

ok thanks!

[plain geyser]

What is the point of double wielding daggers? Does it have any advantages?

[lavish elk]

Combos and stat bonuses.

[paper panther]

Not unless the second dagger has good bonus stats

[whole sluice]

Stat sticks, animation cancel, combo exchanging. For instance on Rogue, Right, Right, Left (Spam until you want big damage) then Right

Because the last hit in the Castellion dagger gets a huge bonus

[plain geyser]

Cheers for hte info

[whole sluice]

For sure

[vague cipher]

what is the gimmick with the lava monster boss on level 2?

50 arrows did not kill the white ghost

[whole sluice]

Avoid the puddles underneath, move a lot, melee is rough

It will take a LOT more than 50 arrrows 😄

[vague cipher]

Do you kill the lava monsters or the ghost first?

[whole sluice]

Lava monsters are immune when they have the shield up

[vague cipher]

Ok thank you for the info

[runic whale]

can you rotate stuff in the inventory?

[gaunt sparrow]

no

[runic whale]

ok

[eternal wyvern]

i hope that in the future we will get to know what our spells actually do, guessing how much damage etc they do is really lame

[elder coral]

@whole sluice I appreciate all the help you are giving to the masses 🎃

[whole sluice]

Aww thanks 🙂

[quasi pelican]

how do you get purples and oranges? and how does the loot work with the 3rd level?

[wary osprey]

pick fruit trees

[whole sluice]

Purples are rare loots from the first floor you are on, and increased on the next. Oranges are SUPER rare on the first floor, but a little better down below. Loot works the same. There are chests and mobs and each has their own loot tables

[quasi pelican]

so chest on lvl 2 and 3 has same loot table if its the same type of chest? just increased chances?

what about mobs, its a bit confusing what they are supposed to drop

[whole sluice]

All Inferno Wood chests have the same loot table which is different than Level 2 Wood chest

Same thing. Mobs have their own loot tables. Most of them are fairly similar, but skullbats have more jewelry, lockpicks and lanters/throwables for instance

[quasi pelican]

i see, thats very helpful, thanks

[wary acorn]

hey im new to the game, how does the blue portals spawn - is there any system to it?

[whole sluice]

All portals spawn within the bounds of the current white circle. You can see when they spawn in the top right corner

[wary acorn]

alright - thanks for the quick answer

[whole sluice]

Sure thing

[tired saffron]

Is the ghost king scream power debuff meant to last for a solid 5 minutes

having -80% physical + magical power cripples you for the whole level afterwards

[bronze gale]

Hey guys, does the Recurve bow shoot faster than a long bow?

[tired saffron]

yes

[whole sluice]

Yes. Surv Faster than Recurve. Recurve Faster than Long

[bronze gale]

Oh sick, cheers dude

[wary acorn]

i guess clerics can't heal themselves with their healing staffs? 😄

[wary osprey]

they can

[whole sluice]

They can, just don't aim ALL the way at the ground

[lavish elk]

One of their spells can.

[wary osprey]

only their lesser heal

[whole sluice]

The large heals don't heal you though

[bronze gale]

One more thing, if there a difference between windless crossbow and crossbow?

[whole sluice]

Yes, reload, damage etc...

[bronze gale]

Cheers

[lavish elk]

The big crossbow is... hard to use because of the reload time in my opinion.

[whole sluice]

Crossbows in general are really only useful to start a fight or finish it

It has a lot of up front burst

It's just not designed for sustained dps

[lavish elk]

The small one isn't too bad its fast enough you can get a few off before closing.

The big one you chuck it once and switch,.

[eternal wyvern]

is there a benefit to dual-wielding daggers?

[whole sluice]

It's a choice. Less movement speed but can be used as stat sticks, animation cancels, and combo threats

[eternal wyvern]

what are the combos? so far i only got to mash mb's and it didn't seemfaster/beneficial lmao

[whole sluice]

Depends on the weapon. Each weapon ha a 3-4 attack combo. It would look like this. Right Combo 1, Right COmbo 2, Left Combo 1, Left Combo 2, Left Combo 3, Right Combo 3 etc...

Some weapons do more damage but have WIDE swipes which makes it ahrder to use in hallways or against shields. Some do less damage but are easier in hallws/aiming for the head/around shields

[eternal wyvern]

i see, thanks, what are the mouse-button sequences for the combos?

[whole sluice]

Left click for left weapon, right click for right weapon

It's easier to try it out then to explain tbh

You'll see

[vague cipher]

anyone know about how many arrows it would take to kill a floor 2 boss? OR what their HPbar is

[mossy yew]

theres no matchmaking for this is there

[mint heart]

Bear traps seem a bit overpowered

It should wear off after a duration and not allow someone to just endlessly beat your ass lol

[pine wigeon]

is there anyway to split a stack of 100g into two 50 stacks?

[wary acorn]

is there friendly fire ?

[ember moss]

@mint heart Just aim the brear trap and press the action key, you can unlock quite quickly

[gaunt sparrow]

Yes

[mint heart]

you cant unlock before getting killed lol

[whole sluice]

You can buy gold pouhces, they hold 50 gold each

[gritty chasm]

Hey Madd can I pm you

[whole sluice]

Sure

[pine wigeon]

i see

[gaunt sparrow]

Not at the moment, but there has been discussion about introducing solo lobby queues, possibly expanding teams to 4 (you may have noticed some concept art with 4 adventurers) and I would presume with those introductions, some sort of elo system might be implemented.

[pine wigeon]

also how do i get a stack of 50g

i see other people have 50g stacks

[ember moss]

@pine wigeon buy to the tresorer a gold pouch

[pine wigeon]

ty

[ember moss]

You can fit 50g in it

[restive juniper]

You say DWing daggers would make me slower but when i check stats details, the movement speed stays the same with or without dual wield. Is it only certain combinations that affect movement speed like dagger+rapier?

[golden cedar]

how does lockpicking work

[gaunt sparrow]

You engage the lock (f) and then must hit spacebar at the right time when the mini game circle appears

[mint heart]

There just needs to be a duo queue its so hard to win as 2 vs so many 3 mans

[golden cedar]

what is the red spot

[whole sluice]

No, that doesn't change while in 'stash' mode. Check in a mission

[whole sluice]

It's a crit. For now the only thing it does is instantly open the chest or door/complete the mini game

There are thoughts that it might, may have, or implies that there are better success events tied, but nothing concrete

[gaunt sparrow]

I believe it will eventually grant better rewards, but it just opens the chest like the yellow area currently.

Yes, what Madd said

[dapper herald]

is there a guide on each stats? like spell capacity / healing physical etc

[worn jungle]

does spellbook/staff quality affect spell damage/healing?

[whole sluice]

Not currently

[gaunt sparrow]

There is no guide yet, but you can check FAQ channel here - it has useful info.

And of course you can ask in here

[whole sluice]

Check fopdoodles on the menu or #❓faq

[serene sequoia]

what happens after taking down portal

[dapper herald]

stats on fop is only basic, i wanna know what does physical healing , magical healing etc means

[gaunt sparrow]

As I said there is no advanced guide yet.

[whole sluice]

Phys healing applies to potions and bandages

Magical healing is spell related healing

Right now there is no formal 'guidebook' but that is something I've wanted to work on for a while

Same with a wiki

[dapper herald]

how about the spell capacity

does it works on like secondwind

[whole sluice]

A lot of it, however, is that things are drastically different from even just a month ago. But having enough of a basis is good enough for me

Spell Capacity is not functioning correctly, and no, Second Wind is a skill, not a spell

[gaunt sparrow]

You go to a space box where there are space whales, and then once everyone has either left the previous level via blue portal or arrives in space as well, you will spawn somewhere in the final map.

[dapper herald]

or only on spells like wizard / clerics

oh i see

does physical bonus works on bows?

or melee only

[gaunt sparrow]

Yes it works on bows.

Any weapon. Even fists I believe.

[dapper herald]

ohh good to know that

[gaunt sparrow]

Strength increases damage as well

Str jewelry is very good

[dapper herald]

ya

[fallen citrus]

When they implemented class leveling are perks and skills going to be the only unlock? Or will you be able to allocate attribute points per level as well? Tailor your build if you will.

[whole sluice]

To be fair, str scales damage by a multiplier. Str/Phys Power is better for larger slower weapons

Flat damage is better for quick weapons

[whole sluice]

Don't have any info on that yet

But yes, phys is all attacks outside of part of the Crystal sword and spells

[barren seal]

How does the pickpocket work for the rogue? It says you can steal from enemies in dungeons

[vast monolith]

For the golden door do I just need the key or do I also need a rogue

[gaunt sparrow]

It will steal a random unequipped item from a nearby enemy's bag. It does break hide.

[glossy leaf]

What qualifies as an "Long-range weapon" for the sharpshooter perk for ranger?

[gaunt sparrow]

Anything ranged, I believe. To distinguish it from spear, sword, or rapier.

Spear has a reach, which could be interpreted as short range, so they specify long range.

[versed elbow]

please tell me the end product wont have wipes considering how many levels to the dungeon they plan to add and the trading feature with other players / dying will keep the game fresh

i cant deal with another wipe based game

[whole sluice]

You have to be next to an enemy with the skill equipped. Then a new button will pop up that allows you to take something from their inventory. If they have nothing, you will be told so

[whole sluice]

Just need the key

[whole sluice]

As NOs said, any Bow/Crossbow

[versed elbow]

or is that info not public yet

[whole sluice]

This project is barely 10 months old, it's WAY to early to even tell what it's going to end up like

[versed elbow]

i just dont want to see it end up being a tarkov clone because of all the tark players flooding devs with requests is all im worried about

i love it the way it is rn

[whole sluice]

I wouldn't worry about the Devs. THey seem to ignore the general 'chatter' and go for their vision

[versed elbow]

thank god have fun in the dungeon :4evil

[whole sluice]

It speaks volume that they didn't cash grab Early Access after exploding in popularity already

[versed elbow]

just reading pestilys chat and everyone wants wipes movement realistic damage magic removed its full omegalul mode

elp im gonna get back to the old grind with my mind at ease

[whole sluice]

Yeah, ppl be dumb sometimes 😄

[distant belfry]

What if their vision is to have wipes like in Tarkov?

🤗

[dapper herald]

does magical dmg stack up on poisoned weapon?

[versed elbow]

uhh lets get back on topic sorry for starting this madcow :kekw

[bright rivet]

I'd like a pure pve mode personally, but tbh the games really quite fun as is.

[whole sluice]

No worries, appreciate the restrain 🙂

[dapper herald]

anyone know if magical dmg/true dmg stacks on poisoned weapon(rogue skill)

[slender spire]

how do i enter a portal? dont you just have to walk in? just died because i couldnt enter

[whole sluice]

I don't believe it does, but I can't 100% confirm

The test dummy never shows more than 6 damage for me with + damage stacks added to it

The fact it shows 6 and not 5 🤷

[gaunt sparrow]

open the grave, once the portal expands fully, you just walk in and touch it

you can steal other people's portals as well, if you're quick about it

you only need to interact (f) on the grave. touching the portal teleports you

[granite forum]

Do portals spawn entirely randomly or is there a trigger for them like player deaths / kills?

[slender spire]

i walked back and forth in it but did not enter

[gaunt sparrow]

they spawn randomly once the circle closes in by a certain amount

[gaunt sparrow]

perhaps that was a bug. if you have a recording or a description, it would be helpful to report.

[slender spire]

sadly no recording. I can report it if you think it is helpful. simply here in the report bug channel?

[gaunt sparrow]

Yes, please be as descriptive as possible about what you were experiencing.

[slender spire]

ok, will do. thx for the info

[gaunt sparrow]

for sure 👍

[raw quarry]

Do skeletons take less from piercing and more from bludgeoning

[whole sluice]

No

There is no damage resistance by type currently

[errant oar]

what does a campfire do

[rotund cradle]

Heals and restores spells

Campfires are great!

[errant oar]

oh epic

[rotund cradle]

Very good if your plan is to go to the lower floor

[errant oar]

im too scared for that lmao, i tried it one time and got eaten by a big ass wolf within 10s

[modern dagger]

Ive seen like 100 people ask with no answer, can you pickpocket in the tavern

[whole sluice]

No

[modern dagger]

👍🏿

[visual cloud]

Where i can read about stats? Will, knowledge, resoursefulness? What is it?

[whole sluice]

#❓faq Or Fopdoodle button on menu

[brazen marlin]

Armor scaling seems a bit broken, no? Every point of armor acts as a multiplier of previous points of armor, meaning low armor builds give very little protection but if you stack enough high end armor you can become super resistant to physical damage, no?

[viral radish]

hey how did u kill ghost king?

[brazen marlin]

It seems like if your build was able to, in theory, hit 450 armor you'd be almost immune to physical damage?

[whole sluice]

There is a cap, even with the shrine buffs

But that is why there is true damage and pentration abilities

Also magic counters phys resistance and phys attacks counters magic resistance

You'll never be immune for a specific type of damage

[brazen marlin]

What's the cap on armor or phys reduction?

[whole sluice]

95% seems to be the cap but thats with the shrine. Not sure what the theoretical total you could even get is. Shrines add a flat 30% on top, so 65% without?

[wary acorn]

how much health does it take to use the ressing shrine?

[brazen marlin]

Is it an intentional design decision for armor to be worth very little until you get endgame sets then it becomes exceedingly strong?

[whole sluice]

25-35%ish, not sure if it's flat amount or %

Crap gear is crap gear, doesn't have anything to do with scaling

All greys is like 1 decent purple chest

[brazen marlin]

Well, I'm not aware of any other game that has additive damage reduction like that, because it's usually avoided because of how insanely broken additive, percentage based, damage reductions are.

[whole sluice]

That being said, this is more a discussion than answering questions, you might be able to get more out of the #game-discussion channel

[brazen marlin]

sure

[whole sluice]

Thanks 🙂

[gaunt sparrow]

None, you just need to equip (hold, put on your belt and select) your teammate's soul

[whole sluice]

Are you sure? Clerics have a perk for the spell res, but the ressing shrine still costs HP?

Testing it right now, one sec

[gaunt sparrow]

The player being resurrected does not have full health, but I'm fairly sure it doesn't cost your own health. I could be wrong

[whole sluice]

Yeah, went for 108 to 87

So 20% or 20 hp

[gaunt sparrow]

Oh well, slap me with a fish, I've just never noticed

[whole sluice]

😄

I knew it did it in previous ones, but things are always changing haha

[gaunt sparrow]

😝

[whole sluice]

Good to keep me honest

[gaunt sparrow]

Same 😂

[brazen marlin]

Is there any way to get considered for invitation to the internal playtest? 😛

[whole sluice]

I wish 😄

[little lily]

I think it is 20%. I just raised a party member last run as a wizard (75 base max hp) and it looked like I lost about 1/5th of my HP instead of more than a quarter.

Didn’t check the sheet though.

[tired saffron]

best answer is "beat the living shit out of it with good weapons"

[maiden delta]

skeletons sword swing clipping through the door and killing me 💯

[tired saffron]

you can kill the golems at range from outside of the arena

take a cleric

mandatory healbot

[viral radish]

will try this

did your group have 3 legendary weapons?

[tired saffron]

nope, purples and blues

you can jump to dodge stomp

[void thunder]

Anyone know what the damage bonus for headshot is?

[tired saffron]

the scream will kill you if it happens early - it's 5 minutes of -80% power

[whole sluice]

150%

[tired saffron]

doesn't go away after the fight

[whole sluice]

lIMBS ARE 50%

Caps

Limbs

[viral radish]

so rng whether it screams early?

[tired saffron]

seems to be

[desert glade]

what does knowledge do?

[whole sluice]

Currently not much. Magical Interact Speed is about it for now

[desert glade]

thx

[sand sparrow]

no effect on casting speed currently ?

[viral radish]

thanks for the info

[tame willow]

Does the rogue skill pick pocket let u steal belt items or something?

[whole sluice]

Oh ya, they added it this time

It does do casting speed

Thanks

I need the sleep 😄

[whole sluice]

No

Just from inventory

[hard galleon]

Does bardiche benefit from the axe specialization perk?

[whole sluice]

No because it's classified as a pole-arm

[slender leaf]

Any tips on not getting hit by the 2nd arrow from the double arrow spam from skeleton archers?

As a rogue or anything without a shield the 2nd arrow almost always hits me

[gaunt sparrow]

Yes, find cover. Also jumping as it aims will cause him to shoot above you when you land.

[late sentinel]

Does the barbarians "crippling shout" slow enemies? or is it just the dmg reduction

[celest mural]

just damage reduction

[late sentinel]

yucky

[soft oar]

Does the wizard have another method to replenish spells?

[whole sluice]

Go left and then right and then left. AI uses predictive movement so jiggling back and forth misses more than just going the same direction/speed

Also ducking at the moment you hear it go

[whole sluice]

Campfires/meditate

[soft oar]

Other than meditation i mean

Oh campfires too

Nice

Thank you

Never got one but good to know

[mint heart]

Okay this ist he third fuckin game in a row that has crashed is anyone else having this issues

[wraith bolt]

no

[mint heart]

im a big ole sad boy

[soft oar]

Been playing for 4 hours in a row and i haven't crashed

[hard galleon]

I've had 2 crashes today

[spice plover]

how do you use the pick pocket skill on rogue?

[gaunt sparrow]

rangers start with one, and you can buy campfires

[soft oar]

Well the only time i got out of the dungeon alive was my last match so i haven't bought anything yet kek

[gaunt sparrow]

Be next to an enemy, and using it will steal a random item from their bag. If they have nothing, you'll get a message and get nothing.

[gaunt sparrow]

Well congrats and good luck on your future runs.

[soft oar]

Thank you

[spice plover]

its not on q or e though

[soft oar]

If you buy stuff and die in the dungeon u lose everything right? Both inventory stuff and equipment?

[sand yew]

Is the Lich supposed to cast both Blue and Purple Aura within ~1 second of each other—on the same person? 🤔

[twilit moat]

You lose everything on your character at the time and would restart with the base gear you receive at the beginning of the game but you keep everything in your stash.

[soft oar]

Hmm I see

Thank you

Makes sense i guess

[restive juniper]

The Sharpshooter perk, is it for all ranged weapons or only long bow?

[maiden delta]

wizard so strong from the jump for pvp but that pve painful

[sour grotto]

what key to unequip weapons and consumables so that i can move faster?

[whole sluice]

X by default

[errant oar]

am i doing it wrong or can you not "sheathe" a bow like you can sheathe a sword to pull your fists out

[whole sluice]

You can sheath anything and pull out your fists

[errant oar]

when I press the button while holding my bow nothing happens

[whole sluice]

You probably changed it in the options

Should be this one

At the bottom of quickslots

[errant oar]

nope i just checked and it's still X

[whole sluice]

Do you have anything else as X?

[burnt badger]

what advantage does a magic ball give a mage?

[errant oar]

lemme check

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[errant oar]

nope just sheathe

[whole sluice]

Hmmm, not sure then

[errant oar]

prolly just bugged

[burnt badger]

so basically magic ball is just good for halls?

[whole sluice]

Do you use a qwerty?

[errant oar]

yeah normal qwerty keyboard

[whole sluice]

Hmm.. not sure

Maybe report bug?

[errant oar]

I'll do that, thx

I unbound and rebound the keybind and it works now

[soft oar]

At this point a crystal sword is better anyways tho

I think

Doesn't swing and you can still have the melee dmg

[spice plover]

how do you use the pick pocket skill on rogue?

[golden cedar]

is there a way to report players

we got killed by a cheater

[whole sluice]

#report-wicked-mod-only

[golden cedar]

I dont have permission to send messages in that channel

[whole sluice]

I would try to get a Warden to help you out with that

[little lily]

Magic ball is good because you can use a dagger in your main hand to have a melee weapon without much of a swing arc.

Also it has a low movespeed malus so you can stay mobile.

[dry plover]

What does spell capacity do ?

[weary ermine]

I have a question regarding the rogues “Poisoned Weapon” skill.
Does the dmg stack to 20 and will tick for 4 seconds or does the dmg and the timer both stack so you still deal 1 dmg every second?

[dry plover]

timer

they fixed it

its not only timer

[whole sluice]

Nothing currently

[whole sluice]

It will stack and refresh per hit I believe

[spice plover]

what about the pick pocket skill? theres no indicator so how do you use it?

[wary acorn]

can clerics cast healing spells with anything else than the staff?

[whole sluice]

Have it equipped, be near an enemy, and then you can interact with them to steal something from their inventory. (Not equipped) If they have nothing the game will tell you

[burnt badger]

Is there any reason to run a Crystal Sword, Crystal Ball or a Spellbook as a Wizard currently? Cant notice any differences

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[burnt badger]

thanks

[fading stag]

Anywhere else to get golden key other than the skeleton under the tower in that one map?

[whole sluice]

Nope, just the one guy 😄

[fading stag]

ehh for why I play like 10 times and never get that map

[wide jungle]

Isn't there only one map?

for Dungeon level

[whole sluice]

There are several variants for each 'floor'

[marble root]

There are 2 different levels you can spawn in and 1 deeper floor

[ionic onyx]

Where is skeleton key found?

[whole sluice]

One on of the maps with the large tower in the middle, there is the Golden door on the top floor and the key is a random drop from the Skeleton Captain at the base of the tower behind a set of double doors Sorry. That is for the Golden

The Skeleton key can be found in one of the 2 variants of the bottom floor in the NW corner. There will be a section of 5 doors

The middle one has up to 3 items that spawn in it with the room with the casket and the Wraith

It will be on the floor if it spawns (RNG)

[crude lantern]

MaddCow out here writing novels

[whole sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/no-idea-you-have-no-idea-gif-13406460

[crude lantern]

We appreciate it ❤️

[whole sluice]

And I appreciate you all for being curious enough and not too prideful to ask questions 🙂

I believe that a more informed gaming community is a stronger/better one

[crude lantern]

Ok so... can you take a look into #989065208087576596

the one I posted that is slight above

i've been having this issue 2 days in a row, night time (my GMT +4 timezone) only. Like midnight

[whole sluice]

I can let the @lone crane know so they can forward it to the correct people to have eyes on it 🙂 Unfortunately, I'm just a cow and don't have much pull 😄

[crude lantern]

The right cow in the wrong time can make ALL the difference in the world...

[whole sluice]

❤️ the reference 😄

[crude lantern]

lip quiver

Time.... Mr Cow....

[whole sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/prepare-for-unforseen-consequences-gman-gif-25112140

[crude lantern]

anyway, thank you

[whole sluice]

I gotcha

[lone crane]

whaat

[crude lantern]

You heard the man Warden

forward it

[lone crane]

i agree

i shall allow it

[eternal wyvern]

is there a group-based matchmaking system? i noticed that most of my solo runs are cut short by encountering 3-man groups more often than not

[crude lantern]

no matchmaking at the moment i believe

[analog wave]

get friends

[whole sluice]

Nope, everyone is thrown in first queue first serve

[lone crane]

!ban @analog wave 10min

[sand sparrow]

I have a sage worthy question, does the protection from evil cleric perk cut the duration of ale. It shows up as red when you use it so I'm thinking the dizziness is a "debuff"

[hushed coral]

Whats the difference between ranged weapon and long range weapon? since ranger has two perks called Ranged Weapons Expert and Sharpshooter

[lone crane]

😔

[keen hound]

does "Spell capacity" give one more resurrect for clerics ?

[crude lantern]

one is long and one is not-long

[whole sluice]

The only thing it 'dispells' is the blurry vision. The debuff is just how the game considers the 'buff'

[whole sluice]

No, spell capacity is not functioning in this build

[soft oar]

spell capacity isnt a thing rn

[keen hound]

aw

[whole sluice]

Long Range = Bows/Crossbows

[sand sparrow]

Great, thanks again cow

[hushed coral]

So for example a long bow would fit in the long ranged category? and a short bow would fit in the ranged cat?

[keen hound]

then this helpmet is bobo

[crude lantern]

i believe that if it's a bow/crossbow it will be fine, of any type

[whole sluice]

Anyword with Bow in it is long. Recurve Bow, Long Bow. Survival Bow. Cross Bow. Windup Crossbow 😄

[severe prairie]

how do u extract from the down portal area

[crude lantern]

the last circle should have 3-4 blue portals

[whole sluice]

There are 4 blue portals that will spawn. They will spawn in 1, 1, and then 2

[hushed coral]

Ok ty! i was just maknig sure

[faint chasm]

What does the pickpocket perk do for rouge?

[crude lantern]

you know what im gonna reply to that

so i won't reply

[whole sluice]

If you have it equipped you can approach an enemy player in a match if you are within touching distance. A prompt will come up where you can 'pickpocket' them. You will then 'steal' one item from their non-equipped backpack. If they have nothing to steal it will let you know

[wide jungle]

@whole sluice You should add these reoccurring questions to an advanced FAQ in discord

[crude lantern]

or there should be better explanations in the game for skills

or perks

[whole sluice]

Hehe, I wish. I'm not that powerful 😄 If anything, I would be considered leanbeef 😄

[wide jungle]

(ideally long term ^)

[burnt badger]

How many character slots in total are you able to create?

[whole sluice]

At least 6 😄

[subtle leaf]

Why can't I spectate my team mates when I die?

[soft oar]

Probably bug(?)

I can

[little lily]

You can it just seems to take a really long time for the spectator camera to kick in.

[ionic onyx]

Where is skeleton key found?

[fallow kayak]

My understanding is that multiple potion of healing of different qualities, stack, can someone confirm this?

[ionic onyx]

Yeah, u can stack 3 of the grey, 3 white etc

Seperately

[fallow kayak]

IE: One grey, one white, one blue, would have their effects be additive, rather than just extend duration

[whole sluice]

I think he means the healing 'buff'

[sacred canopy]

how do you raise your hands in the air

[fallow kayak]

I do

[whole sluice]

Last time you could stack them in the previous playtest, I haven't confirmed it yet for this playtest

[fallow kayak]

Could you stack ale in the same manner?

[whole sluice]

No. In the first public playtest they would stack with the same rarity though. So you could have 200 Strength Cleric 😄

But that was QUICKLY fixed after the playtest 😄

[fallow kayak]

I'm about to test ale, with a +5,+7,+13,+15 etc

[whole sluice]

Lemme know what you find out

So much to test, so little time 😄

[fallow kayak]

doesnt

best ale overrides the others

[dry plover]

does pickpocket do something ?

[whole sluice]

If you have it equipped you can approach an enemy player in a match if you are within touching distance. A prompt will come up where you can 'pickpocket' them. You will then 'steal' one item from their non-equipped backpack. If they have nothing to steal it will let you know

[dry plover]

That's pretty useless

Is it random item too ?

[whole sluice]

Yup

And yup

[subtle leaf]

Is it true there will eventually be a forest map?

[whole sluice]

Its memey 🙂

[atomic summit]

One Question I have in mind - Since i did miss the first playtest.

Will we keep anything for the next Playtest? What ever that might be - or a fresh start for everyone next time.

[dry plover]

nope

fresh

[weak plaza]

Difference between Spellbook rarity? The rare spellbook costs much more than a normal one however there are no visible stat differences

[reef pumice]

does basic firecamp given to ranger reset cleric spell also, or u need to use better tier?

[atomic summit]

Alright! Thanks.

[whole sluice]

Nothing on rarity atm

[whole sluice]

Yup. Campfire rarity only effects how long it takes to 'deploy'

[soft oar]

Yeah it's written with blue instead of white

[full storm]

where do i find golden key ?

[restive juniper]

How much HP does the wraith have?

[atomic summit]

Speaking of Spellbook. Whats exactly the benefits from the Spellbook or the magic crystal ball?

[fallow kayak]

move speed

[whole sluice]

The Golden Key is a RNG drop from the skeletal captain underneath the tower that has the Golden Door. This is only on the map with the large tower in the middle of the map.

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[soft oar]

Cow u got macros on some copy paste messages?

[whole sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-maybe-gif-20413224

Also a fast typer 😄

Or I'm a cleverly disguised bot

[pastel shoal]

floor 2 bosses reset hp when u leave room?

[soft oar]

Mad lad

[whole sluice]

You mean Madd Ladd 😄

[atomic summit]

So the ball feels kinda useless, since you're even slower as with the staff. But good to know, thank you!

[soft oar]

Sounds about right

[opaque rapids]

I used the resurrection spell on a downed friend and nothing happened. All i did was use my staff to cast the spell on him when he was downed, is this the incorrect way of going about it? Could definitely be user error if thats the correct way of doing it.

[soft oar]

U can dual wield a dagger

[whole sluice]

Make sure it uses the entire animation and your staff doesn't hit anything to fizzle it. It takes a good 20ish seconds

[atomic summit]

Wait what? Never heckin mind then

[vale fulcrum]

i am sure its been asked, but what do base stats actually do? is there a detailed description available? yes, i already checked pins.

[soft oar]

#❓faq

I had the message copied but it was on pc

Phone kinda wack

[vale fulcrum]

so does strength give rogues damage?

[whole sluice]

Yes, because it effects Physical Power

[soft oar]

More health and yeah more phys dmg

[whole sluice]

Technically Agi does to, but only because it affects Attack Speed

[main salmon]

I don't really understand the soul heart mechanic. My ally's soul never seems to drop when they are the first to die in a party of 3. Is this intentional or possibly a bug?

[soft oar]

You have to remove the chest piece

[whole sluice]

Did you remove their chest armor?

[main salmon]

I see haha

i did not

[whole sluice]

It is good to see again 🙂

[soft oar]

First time it happened I went to browse on internet while the safezone was closing on me

[vale fulcrum]

does str help with rangers bow damage?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[soft oar]

Yeah

[vale fulcrum]

not sure if their bow damage counts as phys

ah ok

[whole sluice]

Str improves all physical damage

[soft oar]

It's still physical dmg

[whole sluice]

Also makes you look more chad

[pastel shoal]

what about emotional dmg ;-;

[reef pumice]

Kinda random, but what's happening if you extract with a soul (friend or ennemy) does it dissapear ? can you sell it maybe?

[whole sluice]

Goe away

[vale fulcrum]

is there a detailed breakdown on the stats? as in 1 agi gives x, y, and z of each stat?

[whole sluice]

Goes away

You set it free

[whole sluice]

Not yet. Something I'm hoping to work on

[vale fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-okie-dokie-sounds-good-gif-19741335

[soft oar]

Emotional dmg is when ur cleric takes 20 seconds to revive you and the spell fizzles cause the staff hits a wall

[whole sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-gif-24423348

[soft oar]

And then leaves u cause the safezone is closing in

[atomic summit]

And I thought it would be emotional dmg when a trio gets solo'ed by a lonely cleric. Bonk of death.

[soft oar]

Well that can't be emotional damage cause they are already dead inside

And outside

[atomic summit]

But i feel that hitting a wall with a spell... <.<

[soft oar]

Me too, it was a personal experience i was talking about

💀

[atomic summit]

Yeah - I feel that. Alot. Either as mage or cleric...

But nothing is worse than to hit the wrong target with your spell.

[sand sparrow]

keep talking smack about cleric, and you got a smite coming your way

[soft oar]

Well my cleric hit a skelly with a shield and i died cause of it, that was quite the emotional dmg as well. And on that same death the fizzle revive happened

Double emotional damage

Tbh i hit her with a fireball beforehand though

[atomic summit]

Well... It was funny watching a spider running around with a shield because enemy cleric missed his fighter friend. The paiiin.

[whole sluice]

All must be baptized in the Dark and Darker world. First, you will be joined with a fresh Wizard who upon seeing the cosmic power that they hold, launches a plume of heat and fire across the very air and directly into you and your buddies face.

Dusting yourself off you decide to go with the order of Holiness instead of pyrotechnics. However, upon being ambushed by a Rogue with purple hands you melt at the sight of a dagger piercing your throat. In an opportunity to pull out your lovely holy caster decides to save your soul from the depths and causes it to arise. Your soul gently falling back lower into your body and you begin to feel your body embrace your soul once more only for the Holy Pilgrim to sneeze and flinch and cancel the spell. Your soul, now forever lost as you see a Ranger about ready to loose an arrow into the skull of your once former friend.

[soft oar]

I had 0 casts left on magic missile and i was tryna bonk the skelly with the staff, it was one hp and then the shield of death(mine) saved it

Top 10 anime betrayals

[sand sparrow]

Ive been wondering about this, what happens to the your hp if you buff strength and take a hit. When the buff ends the totals just move back according or is it free hp? and can you die from this?

[soft oar]

I'm pretty sure the total moves back but in case of low hp u won't die, though it could be fake info cause i never experienced it

[sand sparrow]

thanks, sorry for asking weird questions

[soft oar]

Guess we wait for enlightenment from our friendly sage

[night kiln]

On a cleric does the weapon damage from a staff increase the healing for teammates?

[whole sluice]

I don't know enough to make a confirmation about this process

I have my feelings on how I think it works, but I want to test it specifically to do so

[whole sluice]

No

The only thing(s) that increase spell/heal damage are will power, magical power bonus, and +magical healing stats

[soft oar]

Actually an interesting one

[atomic summit]

Do Potion effects "stack" Or should you wait before using one while anothers effect is still effective. I am not 100% sure myself.

[whole sluice]

No, it gets replaced

So wait for it to run out

Unless doing so is inconvenient

[atomic summit]

Well... Good to know!

[sacred canopy]

there's no toggle for crouch?

[whole sluice]

Welp, I've got some errands to take care of. Try to be good little evil Dark and Darkerers while I'm away 😄

[fallen radish]

What does the little red skull next to a name in the death thread indicate?

[zenith hawk]

why when i press ctrl+z it opens the pause menu?

[little lily]

Killed by a headshot.

[proper tree]

Negatory, just hold whatever keybind and pray that a Ranger doesn’t loose an arrow into your noggin when you unwittingly bob up.

[gleaming bone]

I was able to stack cleric protection with a shrine protection today

didn't test with potion on top of it, I should have

[dark gale]

the stash gonna reset next playtest?

[gleaming bone]

yes

[gloomy garden]

how to use the cleric res?

[zenith hawk]

aim the body and don't move

while the spell is selected with a staff

[gloomy garden]

twice now and it didnt work, is there something im doing wrong. havent moved and fully charged

[little lily]

You need to have enough room to swing the staff to complete the cast.

Too close to a wall or the floor and you'll bonk the terrain and fizzle your spell.

[gloomy garden]

ahhh

[little lily]

That goes for all spells too. It can be really hard to cast in confined quarters if you're using something with a big swing arc for a casting implement.

[sly pelican]

That is why spell book is so much better

Faster cast and movement speed as well as no space worries

[little lily]

Yeah I like the book and orb + dagger. The sword has this super wide sweep that bonks on everything.

[green dawn]

what skill of lich its blue ?

[little lily]

Not sure if the cleric can use orbs and books though.

[novel basin]

cleric can use spellbooks, but not orbs

[prime canopy]

Does Warcry give you temporary hp? Not just an increase of max hp?

[visual dagger]

yes

[visual dagger]

cast speed is the same for all just different animations .

[prime canopy]

Last question, how does impact power work exactly?

[dusty compass]

someone else commented this but maybe itll help
I think the blocking mechanics need to be thought out a bit more.
With the inclusions of "Impact Power" and "Blocking Power" on weapons and shields respectively, blocking, which was already kind of a gamble to do sometimes, just isn't all that great of an idea.
Blocking is now most of the time beat out by any heavier weapons due to the high impact stat for these weapons, and from my experience playing as Barbarian with the "Smash" perk, shields are actually just a detriment to those using them as you can quite literally hit the shield, stagger the user, and hit them in the face before they can swing on you. Blocking things like daggers or arming swords isn't really that useful either as the blocking system can be a bit wonky, with the defender needing to be very precise about where they're blocking. It's also worth mentioning that if you're blocking, and not actually blocking an attack, you're basically just eating free damage, and thus, you'll lose a fight even against something like a Rogue if he gets too many free stabs in.
Honestly, as much as I love the system of, "if your body part is sticking out it can still be hit", I do think both that and the impact system cannot coexist together as both of these systems when combined create this huge crater for blocking as a whole where either you're stabbed in the head by spears, longswords, or daggers, with that shield doing absolutely nothing, or you're blocking a swing from a heavy weapon and your shield is getting blown through.

Honestly, a simpler defense mechanic would to just make blocking block attacks in front of you with a more forgiving window, but add in some sort of stamina for said block. The current impact system could be rebranded to inflict higher amounts of stamina drain instead of just straight up beating the shields altogether

[burnt badger]

Is the map static this playtest? and if so, is there a full one available to look at?

[mint heart]

Hey do you guys know if its a bug you can cast healing spells on dead bodies

it has got me in a bind several times

[dusty compass]

its not tiggy. you have to be more precise

[visual dagger]

it's static there is some variations tho and now we don't have full map picture yet

[visual dagger]

atm you can cast healing on everything

[granite thorn]

How do you dual wield?

[prime canopy]

There are specific weapons that are equipped in the secodary slot

So you can't dual wield 2x rondel daggers, you need a castello dagger which is a dedicated off-hand dagger

[granite thorn]

Thank you

[dapper herald]

is there any tips to see some good stats for market, chat is way too fast

[quick sluice]

rouge stealth perk can i walk while invis?

[visual dagger]

without perk you can't but there is a perk that allows you to take 10 steps

[quick sluice]

yea i mean the stealth perk

thanks ❤️

do they hear me walk tho?

[whole jetty]

What do the higher tier campfires and hunting traps do differently?

[quick sluice]

ig heal more and dmg more?

[visual dagger]

i'm not rogue player but i think they don't

[whole jetty]

tooltips don't say so was curious

[meager crater]

how do the dungeons work? does level 3 change everytime?

[wintry finch]

how do avoid lich lightning zap circle thing

[visual dagger]

there is variations of it

[meager crater]

gotcha they do need to change the portals spawning inside the ghostr kings room though that part is rough'

[calm iron]

does the rogue's bonus damage after leaving stealth work when a wizard casts invis on you?

[brave sparrow]

what do the rare spellbooks do over the common spellbooks? there aren't any stat differences stated in the tooltip

[lavish elk]

Purple is the first tier that effects anything, lower tiers are all the same.

[brave sparrow]

so the two crystal balls that the Alchemist sells are the same even though one costs 30g and the other 46g?

[gritty hedge]

how much is the golden key worth

[visual dagger]

yes

[keen panther]

Go out and in so you see the stuff show up before it starts scrolling

[wintry finch]

figured the attack out

mitigates based on number of enemies / allies in circle

spreads it out

[fading stag]

What is skull key for

[visual dagger]

for opening skull gate's

[elfin token]

Guys what does the Ranger - Nimble Hands perk do excactly. It says when using a bow change your shooting position so you can shoot faster. Does it auto change the stance so you shoot faster or is there a keybind ?

[abstract needle]

Fire rate increased on bows, the ranger also holds it different affecting the parts of the screen you can see

Automatically as well

[elfin token]

i see, thanks ^^

[abstract needle]

Np 🤠

[meager crater]

does spell capacity currently work?

[sinful trench]

How do I use the golden key??

[visual dagger]

no

[vast monolith]

I havent gotten the chance to use it yet but id assume you move it to your utility belt (where you hold potions, bandages, etc.), hold it in hand, and then try to open the door same way you would with a lockpick on a locked door/chest

[sinful trench]

wait which door?

[marble root]

The top of the tower in the middle, the map with a circle outside

[sinful trench]

Ohhh wow ok gotta check that out

[marble root]

It’s a 1 time use and I don’t think you need to use it like a lock pick, it just opens it

On the base floor of the tower there is a room with the new mini boss which has a couple chests I. To

[flint crater]

So besides letting you cast magic, what else does the Spellbook do?

[marble root]

All wizard items basically only let you cast spells but some have higher dmg for melee

[flint crater]

So basically the staff is better since i can hit things with it still?

[pliant storm]

I believe the book gives faster casting.

[visual dagger]

well you can hit an object when casting as well so in small hall you might be better off with spellbook

[visual dagger]

it doesn't

[quartz kelp]

The book has less of a move speed penalty tho

[flint crater]

Oh do we know if our characters will carry over after the playtest to the next one or to the full game?

[visual dagger]

it will not

[carmine sedge]

anyone know how much HP the lich has? I shot it with a 40~ longbow over 30 times

[proven adder]

does the crystal sword increase spell damage?

[sacred canopy]

whats that weird slowness debuff i occasionally get when hit in pvp?

[austere cipher]

Hey guys is do you get anything class wise after level 15?

[terse hazel]

How do you link an items information in the trade menu?

[visual dagger]

no

[visual dagger]

that's slow debuff when u get hit

[meager crater]

is it just me or is the starting dagger pitiful

[visual dagger]

all starter items are

[meager crater]

i feel like the dagger is just worse taking mobs tanking liek 12 hits'

[sacred canopy]

when does it occur tho

[tough compass]

When you get hit...

[thorn shard]

what benefit does dual wielding on rogue give

[marble root]

If you are talking about the boss on hell floor, it regains health if it resets. You need to stay in the room the whole time

[marble root]

I think the stats if they are purple stack, you can go rapier + Castillo for poke/swipe attacks

Also the Castillo dagger has a damage buff on the last hit of the combo

It does like 23 23 then 40 dmg

[thorn shard]

i see

[fading stag]

what is skull's gate & where do I find it

[marble root]

Don’t know for sure if u duel wield if the attributes from purple+ rarity work with the other weapon i.e physical dmg on rapier and it applies on Castillo dagger

[marble root]

In the hell floor I don’t remember here exactly the door is tho

Not in the boss room tho

[fickle solstice]

what is the purple circle on me on the 2nd floor boss?

[marble root]

If it’s the lich it’s a dmg bubble that 1 shots regardless of gear. You need to mitigate it by going near your teammates or the spawned Skeleton

[grand socket]

Is there a way to tell the difference between a single escape portal or a 3 man portal?

[marble root]

There willl be one for a one escape portal and a three will have 3 connect to eachother

The three are all individual tho so u need to open all 3

[grand socket]

So no matter what, two people can't go through one portal?

[dusty falcon]

yep. one portal per person

[fading stag]

How do you get the t5 gear

[grand socket]

Yo, why are my characters naked? lol

I just made him and he has nothing, not even starting gear. This a bug?

[balmy sphinx]

how to complete red portal

[marble root]

If t5 you mean “unique” which is the light yellow color, I think it spawns only on bosses

[brittle patrol]

is there any buff to dual weilding if theres no stats added to the weapons

for rogue

[whole sluice]

Some of the benefits of dual wielding is using the second weapon as a stat stick, animation/combo cancelling and increased versatility in using the end of a higher damage combo at a specific time. For example on Rogue, going Right, Right, Left (Until you are done poking straight and want a high damage finish) Right.

[tough compass]

On the back of this, i tried a left-left-right combo, but it just did stab-stab-slash rather than the expected backstab animation with the off-hand dagger. Was this simply mistiming?

[brittle patrol]

sharpobject i think ive seen your name in game lmao. also ty madd

[tough compass]

I've not been Sharpobject this time round, i've mained my bard - DoItForTheVine :p

[whole sluice]

Going Left, Left, Right, means you do Combo 1 Left, COmbo 2 Left, Combo 1 Right (Not 3)

[tough compass]

Figured it might be. Thanks

[prisma quest]

is the rogue's invis skill with 10 steps perk bugged? i've had multiple instances of going invis and crouching but the invis instantly breaking when i move

[whole sluice]

Some people report it that way, I personally haven't had that issue tbh, but that doesn't mean it might or might not be there. However, a lot people move without couching or walking which would, in fact, break it

[wicked summit]

can you not split while trading?

[whole sluice]

Nope

[prisma quest]

ok thank you, ill post a clip in the bug report area just in case, im trying to look for what causes it in the clip but i got no clue lmao

[whole sluice]

Please do, thank you 🙂

[lavish current]

How do you fight the lich, what map is he on? And is there a good strat to fighting the ghost king?

[whole sluice]

The bottom (Second floor) Fore more details on fights like that I would recommend the discussion channels for those that have beaten them.

[lavish current]

ty

[prime vigil]

is there a setting i can turn on so that trade chat doesn't move when I scroll?

[whole sluice]

No, the whole trade channel thing is really new so please provide feedback about it in #feedback-hidden-archive

[maiden delta]

can you not kill the ghost king by shooting him outside of room?

had 2 rangers firing into him for like 2 minutes

[whole sluice]

You're not 'supposed' to

[maiden delta]

so is his hp pool actually that high? we were spamming for a long time.

wasn t sure if it was reseting

[whole sluice]

The bosses can reset and restore their health if they are not approached correctly

[maiden delta]

gotcha

[prisma mist]

What is spell capacity ?

[whole sluice]

Nothing right now. Not curently implemented

[grand socket]

How to sheilds work? If you hit them enough do they lose stamina or something? Or can a person block forever with a shield?

[whole sluice]

There is a stability on the shields and the heavier the weapon the more stability is taken from the shield

[robust tapir]

Is there any information about the monetization model the game is going to possibly have? I do know the game is in early stages but I do imagine there has to be something somewhat discussed about it

[grand socket]

Ahhh interesting, what happens when the stability runs out? They just drop their guard? How long till they can bring it back up?

[whole sluice]

Nope, sorry

[whole sluice]

The shield gets staggered and need to have mroe testing for more specific info on duration etc,,,

[gaunt sparrow]

There has only been this which is published in #❓faq "How much will the game cost on release?

• This hasn't been decided yet. We are leaning away from the F2P model and will likely have a packaged release on Steam. We will plan to price it accordingly with other similar games on Steam after doing more research."

When more information is confirmed, the #❓faq channel will be updated I'm sure.

[robust tapir]

Thank God it's not going to be F2P

[sacred canopy]

pay every session 🌝

[livid ginkgo]

Anyone know a way to make trade chat stop auto scrolling? It's very hard to read items and right click people to request trade

[grand socket]

Is there a map of the dungeon anywhere?

[whole sluice]

Not currently, there was a video that put together parts of an older variant of the map but things changed since then

[grand socket]

Ahhh I see. I'm guessing nothing about the map is randomly generated? Only the loot onside chests?

[whole sluice]

Correct, the map(s) are static, but there are variants of the different floors

[grand socket]

What do you mean? Variants how so?

[tawdry ember]

how do you change what the vendors have

[grand socket]

I think they change stock on a timer? Not sure

[tawdry ember]

i heard last play test you could go to character screen and it changed

[whole sluice]

Floor 2 has a few different maps from the map pool that it can be

[whole sluice]

Timer or completing missions

[tawdry ember]

misssions??

[whole sluice]

Rounds, raids, journeys, lives etc... whatever you wanna call it when you play 😄

[tawdry ember]

ahh ok haha

[grand socket]

That's red portals, right?

[tawdry ember]

also what does nimble hands do for ranger??

[surreal lava]

yo what are the knew ghost guy with the halberd type thing?

[whole sluice]

Floor 2 is technically the first floor you spawn on. When you go down it's B3. B1 isn't in the game yet. However, there are different variants for both of these

[whole sluice]

Passive attack speed with bows

[tawdry ember]

ahhh ok and spear doesnt count as long range right?

[whole sluice]

Correct

[surreal lava]

are any of the AI going to get health reductions in the next patch? this playtest I found myself dying to them more and just hitting and hitting, maybe more of a headshot multiplier on them?

[woeful wasp]

is everything gonna get wiped november 1st for the next play test?

[whole sluice]

Most likely not. To be fair, you are technically on floor 2 of 3. The map you start on is B2. B1 isn't in the game yet.

[whole sluice]

Yes

[surreal lava]

oh ok, tysm

[fading stag]

Mister maddcow, do you know where the skull gate is

[whole sluice]

Bottom middle of one of the B3 variant maps

ENORMOUS sized door

[fading stag]

South of the boss room?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[fading stag]

Okay thank you

[whole sluice]

My pleasure

[grand socket]

I escaped with good gear, but I want to go back in with my starter gear, what do I do?

[whole sluice]

Put it in your stash, to get your starter gear you need to die

[grand socket]

But then I'll be naked, right?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[grand socket]

So I have to get naked, go die, then I get starter gear back?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[grand socket]

That doesn't seem well designed lol

[whole sluice]

🤷

I don't think they want you to get loot, get free stuff to start, and do again

[ionic bear]

i have a question. When i try to find a game the game said : already try to find a game

[whole sluice]

Starting gear is to help you when you have nothing

[pale nova]

Well the other option is keeping your starter gear in your inventory and extracting with it so you have it

[whole sluice]

You got out, thats not nothing

[whole sluice]

Might be bugged

[ionic bear]

hmm

[grand socket]

Yeah but I don't wanna gamble my stuff yet lol

[ionic bear]

how to fix?

[whole sluice]

Then keep old stuff, or go in naked and see what you can get out with

[whole sluice]

Restart most likely

[ionic bear]

i restart the game and steam nothing helped

[grand socket]

I'm suspecting by launch they'll add an option to jump in with starter gear, like how Tarkov you can just go as a scav

[pale nova]

You have 3 options pretty much.

1. Use the gear you aquire.
2. Keep your starter gear and extract with it in your inventory.
3. Buy new starter gear with the money you made from the run.

[grand socket]

I assume option 4 is just jump in the game naked, die, get free starter gear again?

[pale nova]

Yeah I guess you even have 4 options