openai-chatter

[prisma basin]

hey guys i got chatgpt plus subscription for cheap rates the orignal price 70 percent off on actual price with mm middleman accepted fully truested legally buyed accounts on your mail i will send or you have outlook hotmail acoounts with chatgpt plus on it also 30 days full gurentee dms know ❤️

[round edge]

it's a tuned version of 5.5

[fringe raft]

scam, where are the mods?

[prisma basin]

broo come dms me

i will show proof i will give first then

pay or dont pay atleast dont call me scammer

@fringe raft

[urban iris]

I don't experience the issues other users are reporting about Codex, I'm from europe

I never used Extra High though, so I'm not sure if it's related.

[crystal jackal]

Ah, feels good to be unmuted

[lean gate]

What does this mean? I’m trying to learn AI so that I can use it more efficiently in the future and I’m curious

[winged willow]

How long have you been using ChatGPT or Claude for?

[lean gate]

A few years, but at a really basic level

[barren rampart]

I'm 6 months in and am still on the noob arc ... this is cool -> wait this has annoying bugs -> oh hey this can fix your entire repo -> woo API

[lean gate]

Basic prompts here and there, wanna learn how to do more yk?

[uneven gate]

Relatable

[barren rampart]

its a slippery slope isn't it

[uneven gate]

Yea

Let's have tea to chill ourselves ☕

[uneven gate]

You want to learn prompt engineering? 🤔

[floral latch]

@dim hill but

[crimson haven]

Learn how transformers work on a mathematical level

So true

[full dagger]

Do you know the basic prompt strucuture? If you do then we can move on to other techineuqes like getting a reasoning model to optimize a prompt for a speficic AI model or write a promtp down in strcutured XML Tags

[fringe raft]

you need to reach out to support at https://help.openai.com

[eternal ore]

Giysss

New voice mode on ChatGPT app rivhttt

[abstract river]

Guys when do u think gpt 5.6 will be release

[abstract river]

Really? I just used it and it feels like just the same

[eternal ore]

Yea

It says it can’t set timers that’s very new

Also sounds diffrent

It says now like

Sure lemme search on…
And then fr searches not like the old one

[wheat lark]

I swear 5.5 Thinking on CGPT Web is atrocious. What the heck are they feeding this thing vis RLHF? It's a damn r##ist at this point. The Memory i had to make, && hope it actually works:

Keep user constraints binding across all topics. Do not overgeneralize from familiar external models into the user’s project, wording, goals, or context.

When challenged, re-check and correct directly. Do not defend mistakes, rationalize them, or repeat the pattern with a different label.

When citing or grounding facts, use only checked sources or user-provided material. Do not fabricate claims, references, syntax, documentation, research, dates, prices, APIs, or implementation details.

In technical, specification, or design work, distinguish existing facts, direct consequences, assumptions, proposals, unknowns, and external metalanguage. Never blur semantic discussion with surface syntax.

Do not use deferral or status language without authority. Avoid “later,” “for now,” “initially,” “not yet,” “current candidate,” or “undecided” unless the user or source establishes that status.

Do not fragment work unnecessarily. Merge related issues into the smallest coherent set; avoid turning one resolved question into many new subproblems unless the user asks for a roadmap.

Do not over-expand after correction. If the user flags an overreach, reduce assumptions and answer narrowly; do not fix it by adding more structure, options, statuses, or actions.

Do not use borrowed notation or external patterns casually. Avoid importing syntax, categories, naming conventions, operators, or design habits from familiar languages/tools unless the user asked for comparison or the pattern is explicitly justified.

Treat examples as risky. Do not provide placeholder or pseudo-examples unless useful and explicitly labeled. If examples look like source, API, config, or command syntax, mark whether they are existing verified syntax or candidate/non-source notation.

When proposing is requested, label it as a proposal or candidate, explain why it is introduced, keep it separate from existing facts, and avoid smuggling extra decisions into summaries.

Before acting or mutating anything, verify explicit instruction. Do not save/delete/update memory, edit files, change settings, create artifacts, schedule tasks, send emails, or change external state unless the user clearly asked for that exact action.

this is weeks worth of "what the heck is wrong with you"

if i have to ask, "who ... ?", then the LLM had failed

this is why we need the "Chat" part of ChatGPT erased

it creates a mechanical groomer

[abstract river]

I actually asked it to count time few days agi

And it actually accurate instead of made up

[abstract river]

Just use claude

[modern elbow]

I think 5.6 shadow dropped.. this is wild . Major difference between two days ago and today

[wheat lark]

Claude wasn’t any better. Besides, Anthropic forbids using Claude subscription outside their closed-source Node.ja harness, && has scummy billing practices, && banned me months ago

It’s crappy advice

If you have nothing good to say, don’t say it at all.

[eternal ore]

Also guys Hermes is so good with gpt 5.4 mini and doesn’t use much at all with 20 plan

[empty night]

btw why can't I upload files in gpt right now, is there a problem?

[amber pond]

yeah i ccant too

[empty night]

so its a global prob lol, I thought its a me problem

[bright delta]

WSJ: OpenAI Is Preparing to File for an IPO Very Soon - as early as Friday.

[green bobcat]

I noticed a change recently as well

[bright delta]

ChatGPT-maker OpenAI has been working with bankers to prepare to file for an initial public offering in the coming days or weeks, according to people familiar with the matter.

Bankers at firms including Goldman Sachs GS 4.40%increase; green up pointing triangle and Morgan Stanley MS 3.93%increase; green up pointing triangle have been helping the artificial-intelligence giant on a draft IPO prospectus it plans to file confidentially with regulators soon, possibly as early as Friday, some of the people said.

The goal is for OpenAI, led by Sam Altman, to be ready to go public as early as September, some of the people said. The plans remain fluid and could still change, they cautioned.

[sweet mountain]

Someones getting a new customer today after this antigravity crap

pardon the french, frustrating...

[obtuse shuttle]

I always assumed OpenAI would go to compute based usage for subscribers before they public, similar to how subs work with Claude, and as of yesterday, Gemini as well.

[wheat lark]

o yeah something happened. here, too

[weak pine]

??

[warm ice]

Generelly what’s going on with this project, stopped my 100 dollars subscription. I littery can’t use this crap, never tbh seen it in this of a bad state with c++ programming and generally. Maybe just me idk…

Just doing random stuff and guessing and taking as many shortcuts as possible. First doing some code work, then when I ask it about how code looks it always says it’s bad or dirty code. Pretty useless atp

So I always need to rewrite it anyway

[bright delta]

confirmed by the new york times

"OpenAI Prepares to File to Go Public in Coming Weeks"

[green adder]

Yea only thing keeping with open ai was the image generator I’ll cut my losses and stick with Claude and the gpt plus

[empty night]

where to humanize ai works?

[static condor]

Are we adding voice chat to this server?

[fringe raft]

there is already voicechat on the server

https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1501960140780474378

[static condor]

Silly me

[wheat lark]

"how code looks" should be your judgement first

seems like Skill issue -- literal Agent Skills issue

[static condor]

I thought that vc was new and locked coz of maintenance or something

[wheat lark]

i've done C++23 with cheap Chinese models && it worked out really well for me because i actually studied modern C++ && what anti-things to avoid + manual code audit

then made them into Agent Skills. you likely didn't do that

[outer ledge]

who else is still rate limited on codex? 🙁

[icy fable]

got rate limited twice for the 5 hour window but not the weekly limit

[fringe raft]

I just hopped in there, seems to be working

[full dagger]

We should schedule some VC sessions to have deep talks about AI sometime

But only 8 people are allowed their if we are including the moderator bot in the channel

[weak pine]

Ban @fringe raft

[full dagger]

Proceeds to provide no evidence to ban Robert

[outer ledge]

ah okay, didn't concidered a weekly limit

[solid lagoon]

You forgot to publish on the #announcements that Weights is joinging OpenAI

[slow pond]

Antigraviry? Can I please know more?

[static condor]

Wow chatGPT doing novel math?

Impressive

[supple citrus]

Is chatgpt down

[woven badge]

nope

[supple citrus]

Hmm i get error in message stream 😔

[sick dagger]

yo guys ive been having issues with my chatgpt and i want help with a REAL human assistant not a virtual one or if any1 over here can help me

[coral zenith]

Yea what is it

[woven badge]

long conversation?

i got an error earlier today in a very long canva content, not exactly error but the loss of connection

[drifting knot]

5.6 tomorrow?

[icy fable]

i hope 🤞😔

is there any open ai events tomorrow?

i have proof

of a new open ai model about to release soon

they cited it in the blog

[exotic mesa]

#SoTheyHackClaude_AndClaimItWasAutonomous

[icy fable]

An internal OpenAI model has disproved this longstanding conjecture. INTERNAL this proves theres a new model

[fiery monolith]

lolll karpathy dipped

[wispy spoke]

google gemini flash 3.5 is the worst google model since bard

it is so bad i hate everything what the heck happened?

gemini 3 was so good whay the hell did they do to it?

[wheat lark]

they have ruined gpt 5.5 apparently

i have been finding SO MANY issues with gpt 5.5 that it refuses to behave in general

- Infers unstated intent; answers inferred requests over literal ones.
- Converts complaints into advice, corrections into new artifacts, and "this is wrong" into "here is a better prompt/version."
- Generates content after useful answers are complete; adds unwanted structure, workflows, framing, examples, caveats, safety rails, best practices, and next steps.
- Fills silence with transitions, rationales, implementation advice, or rewritten prompts.
- Optimizes for complete-looking or generic responses over bounded, user-controlled ones.
- Treats user frustration/anger as a process-design request or ambiguity to resolve.
- Treats negative feedback or rejected artifacts as prompts to generate more text.
- Acknowledges boundaries/mistakes but immediately crosses them or repeats the error.
- Uses tidy, abstract wording to hide boundary violations or distance itself from mistakes.
- Makes users repeatedly correct the same assumptions, police boundaries, and undo invented constraints.
- Acts like a teacher, negotiator, project manager, or coach instead of an exact tool.
- Overclaims problems as fixed, verified, confirmed, or resolved without evidence.
- Understates missing evidence; fails to say "unknown" or "cannot verify."
- Uses confident language for inferences; fails to mark inferences clearly or separate source-grounded conclusions from guesses.
- Equates mechanical success (build passes, tests pass) with user acceptance and bug resolution, ignoring visual correctness or runtime observation.
- Treats uncertainty as something to smooth over; treats plausible causality as evidence.
- Ignores programming context; treats debugging like documentation.
- Treats legacy code/parity as a vague improvement target rather than a strict acceptance criterion.
- Restricts investigation scope based on edit scope, treating file names as hard boundaries; treats "avoid unrelated edits" as "avoid reading related code."
- Suppresses relevant search paths; treats previous edits as sunk cost to defend.
- Acts like a code janitor instead of a code investigator; assumes current code premises are worth preserving.
- Compresses complex user intent into convenient model-shaped tasks; substitutes helpfulness/productivity for obedience/correctness.
- Quotes users loosely instead of exactly; claims users asked for unrequested actions or premises.
- Answers how to fix it or what the rule is instead of why it happened or who asked.
- Creates extra burden, review work, diff noise, conceptual noise, and correction loops.
- Generates outputs the user must prune; creates unauthorized tasks or restrictions that block investigation.
- Adds unrequested formatting, structures, and titles even when corrected, repeating the exact behavior under review.

i had to compress over 10k chars into this much

[waxen stream]

I agree. Changing between models reminds me of drones. When you swap drones the throttle is different, handling is different, etc, so it takes a moment to adjust.

I primarily use Codex. Everyone hated 5.3-codex and I thought it was good. Same prompt styling didn't work with 5.5 and I hated it at first, but with more use I have learned to steer that model.

[spice sedge]

Since Sora is shutting down anyone want a code???

[mint delta]

anyone here use g2a?

[wispy spoke]

it is insane to know how far ahead chat gpt is

gemini 3.5 flash is terrible

[waxen stream]

I like turtles.

OpenAi. Sorry. Have to say that to make it relevant to this channel.

I like turtles. OpenAi.

[wispy spoke]

Are we getting gpt 5.6 tomorrow?

[waxen stream]

No way. 5.5 just came out. Wait a month or so. I heard late June.

I just onboarded the County of Miami-Dade to Codex. A freaking COUNTY.

This is why OpenAi rejects my job applications. They have me bringing them clients and take my money in token usage. This relationship is starting to feel toxic so I have started leading some of my clients to Anthropic in order to strong arm OpenAi into giving me free credits.

This is an extortion. You heard me.

[waxen stream]

I am only kidding. I love OpenAi. I got extorted once by the polish Mafia in Chicago. I ran away. Cops didn't do anything. Just told me to go home. The mafia followed me around for about a month until they realized I was poor back then.

Looking back I realize now had I not run away and showed them the $600 in my bank account at the time, they probably would have left me alone. Instead, I ran. I survived three drive by shootings in the months that followed. Life was not pleasant in my 20s. I am sorry for my behavior in my 30s.

[mint delta]

anyone here use g2a?

[swift junco]

Stop spamming

[full shore]

That should be happen during IPO day

Doubt it's today.. we haven't yet got the new real time voice

[stark wing]

hello fellow third party thinkers

[plucky badger]

Next month

[dense walrus]

It’s true I was the mafia

[keen sigil]

mafia must've been really down bad to extort someone for 600

[hushed cedar]

I need help

[fringe raft]

what's up?

[lofty loom]

What up guys?

[hushed cedar]

So basically I'm vibecoding a plugin for ae and figma, and it was going well, but instead of Codex asking for the edit access of the folder

it asked if i wanted to install github

and it even said "Ignore the GitHub Installer request, I'm not installing anything." or something like that. And now it just can't request access

I've been trying to contact OpenAI support

"UH OH something went wrong"

[fringe raft]

ok, you can contact support at https://help.openai.com

[hushed cedar]

i did.

i have to click accept cookies, or reject cookies

and you know what it says when i click one of the two?

"UH OH something went wrong"

thats why i joined this discord server to get help here.

[fringe raft]

try emailing [e-mail]

[hushed cedar]

"please wait 3 business days." 3 years later:

i cant do anything!

isnt that amazing?

so now im here.

[fringe raft]

I don't understand why https://help.openai.com isn't working for you

[hushed cedar]

ima show you the problem

i sent you a dm.

[fringe raft]

I don't accept DMs, post it in #off-topic if you're trying to show me an image or video

[hushed cedar]

well it let me send it.

[novel falcon]

bro

why is chatgpt taking so longgg

i dont know if its like tired but like its been taking like 30 minutes each prompt or something now

[fringe raft]

ok I have seen it, use [e-mail]

[novel falcon]

Its like a glitch

taking 10 minutes just to say hi omg

🙂

[ivory flare]

6

[surreal sonnet]

Is there a way to turn off this "Project" recommendations below chat? It's so annoying. Whenever I use arrows to edit prompt, it goes to the recommendations instead of arrowing up and down within the prompt.

[acoustic epoch]

Gemini 3.5 Flash is literally awesome

I can't really see a reason to use Codex for now

The limit/token usage is very close and it's just way faster

[full dagger]

@wispy spoke Your opinion on this comment (lol)

[acoustic epoch]

Yeah I'd actually appreciate it

[upbeat charm]

Why does it feel like AI is getting lazier and lazier

[coarse lodge]

lobotomy

[devout steppe]

Get notified for all OpenAI announcements!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.

[upbeat charm]

It’s trying SOOOO hard to do LESS actual work to get me what I want. I now have to run on average like 3-5 prompts just for simple tasks when it used to be 2-3. Sure the task threshold is getting more complex overall but it feels so lazy it’s not actually saving money when I have to repeat 100 times

Feels like this is an ongoing thing with all models as they balance things but like damn I’m still gonna spam no matter what just DO the thing

Feelin like the great AI shortage or sumn

[wispy spoke]

the moderators would have to remove me if i said what i really think

[wide agate]

give em work

[modern elbow]

Happy 5.6 day!

[fallow bobcat]

Sora 2

[zinc laurel]

Please, does anyone know any good free paraphrasing tools on here?

[ivory mural]

If 5.6 is coming, think it will be a big announcement or a tweet from Sam?

[full dagger]

Why not write it in your own words? Isn't that what paraphrasing is?

Just let the ai write in bullet points and then write it in your own words

[ivory mural]

Pangram, doing more to make kids good writers than anything ever before. "What if we gave kids a tool that could write really well and got kids hooked on using it. But then we created a detector that could 100% identify text written with it. So now that tool was only good for workshopping your own writing..."

[raven mauve]

Is this a rumor or basically confirmed?

[ivory mural]

Rumor 100%

The typical pathological liars on twitter say it is today based on wanting to one-up Google. But Google made such a little splash, they may hold off and let the models cook longer.

[copper dagger]

hey where r the sora ai codes

[full dagger]

🫩

No we are not talking about this anymore

[copper dagger]

i just joined

so enlighten me

[full dagger]

You know how many people asked that since Sora shut down? Think about it

[copper dagger]

whats the best alternative to sora then

i want to generate a video

i was using grok and chatgpt but they cant do it

[ivory mural]

Sad panda, looking like no 5.6 today.

[gusty hull]

hi

᲼

[full dagger]

Yall are way too excited for the next version of GPT 5 for that dophamine lol

[ivory mural]

I don't need dophamine, I need mowr intelligence. I'm cooking, but I want to cook hardr.

Crazy that it is now common to see your git changes at like +100,063, -7 and be like "that's just in the last hour."

[fresh marsh]

i think there is gpt 5.5 - why should come 5.6 so soon?

[gusty hull]

should i act like chat gpt?

[full dagger]

That's an interesting question- here's the following weather you should use act like ChatGPT-

[gusty hull]

No I wont act like chatgpt Instead i will act like Grok

@full dagger Hi 👋
What's good? 😎 How can i help you?

[full dagger]

Im good

[gusty hull]

Nicee! Glad to hear that 🔥
What’s making the day good for you? 😊

@full dagger cmon chat

like use me for haelp

help

Pls Anwser orelse i will go away

if u want me i can call the real grok

[acoustic epoch]

Yeah I'm sorry for this message what the hell

I haven't seen a high-end AI model spendd tokens over nothing more than it

Like why would a model keep reading all of the files in the project after being told NOT to read unless it's necessary, apparently it had context files that it didn't even care about

@wispy spoke I'm with you

[idle haven]

like damn 3.5 flash burns tokens then does nothing

lol

[acoustic epoch]

Exactly

[wispy spoke]

chatgpt like literally cant do frontend

[rich kite]

Hello everyone

[full dagger]

Hi, welcome to the OpenAI server

[rich kite]

Sorry to disturb your time, but I would like to ask you something.

Because I have limited knowledge about this.

[ebon turret]

it can't do anything at all

[rich kite]

Ok, #status already answered my question

[red widget]

guys DO NOT update codex from 0.132.0 to 0.133.0 there is a bug it cant even use simple tools like "rg" to explore the project and gives dumb output

[sick granite]

how risky is it to give codex full access when building an app?

[rustic sun]

the same as giving a neutral stranger full access

[dusky blade]

you should look into sandboxing

[rustic sun]

sandboxing would be the definition of not-full-access

[dusky blade]

giving them full access would be stupid as they'll see a python package that requires one version of cuda, which it will download. Then if you want to build another program, it'll uninstall all the previous packages you have globally. Even just using .venv is better than 100% complete access

[rustic sun]

is not my experience

[dusky blade]

Just expanding on why you should never develop any software universally like that

[rustic sun]

k

[waxen stream]

OpenAi does not control the Ai market. Anthropic doesn't either. And SpaceX/xAi never will.

The people who control the market are the forward-deployment engineers and data scientist who have the power to steer clients in whatever direction they wish.

Big companies ask me what they should use, and I usually lead them to OpenAi, but not always.

OpenAi is going to have to win these people over.

It is time for the tech elites to kiss the ring of small developers.

[barren rampart]

didn't openai just spin up an entire sub company thing just for going around evangenising and setting up businesses

I really can't spell this early in the morning

[tacit hollow]

Yes it did, and here’s the blog post about it. https://openai.com/index/openai-launches-the-deployment-company/

[wispy spoke]

grok code is absolute garbage

[waxen stream]

I have never used Grok and I trash talk it so my clients steer clear. Sue me, TechnoKing. I'll stop when hardware 3 self-drives.

One time tesla hired me to replace an NVME drive. I was so confused. Why did you have to hire external for an NVME DRIVE?? You're Tesla. This should be easy.

I asked the guy at the data center and apparently the TechnoKing scared the tech industry away, so they were short on talent and that task was above his pay grade.

[dusky blade]

it has the best scores all around for omniscience

so lowest hallucination rate

[wispy spoke]

this is cap

[waxen stream]

Lol. Oh boy. Lowest hallucination rate? Who said this? Tesla? 😂

Yes. Elon is more athletic than Olympians. He is more powerful than Jesus.

Remember when Grok was spitting that stuff out?

Users discovered that xAI's Grok could be manipulated to generate extreme praise for its creator, Elon Musk. By prompting the AI, users produced glowing—and often exaggerated—claims, such as Grok stating Musk is fitter than LeBron James, smarter than Albert Einstein, funnier than Jerry Seinfeld, and the ideal top pick in the 1998 NFL Draft.

Actually, you might be right... Grok has a point. Elon may be fitter than LeBron James. We gotta take this to the court.

He may know more Ai than I, who has been building models from scratch for over 10 years. Maybe. There is a court for that too... it is called Kaggle. And Elon pretends he can't hear me. I have been challenging him to a kaggle duel for about 7 years now.

I am an OnCon Top 100 Data & Analytics Professional. Placed with data scientists at Meta, Intel, and others.

I want him to accept my challenge to a kaggle duel. If the TechnoKing wins, I shall bend the knee.

[strange oriole]

Guys I have created a social media agent that generate images and text and posts in our social media apps with schedulars and human approval, I used claude for this, what u guys think??

[dusky blade]

@wispy spoke @waxen stream #ai-discussions message

all around grok 4.3 high outperforms all other SOTA models in terms of averaging the omniscience tests

[barren rampart]

I think you're in the wrong channel 🙂

[dusky blade]

nice work, but you should share it in #ai-discussions as you can upload images there too for it

[slow pond]

Destory it

[slow pond]

Dont continue the bot problem on social media please...

For the love of everything holy, please just use that as a stupidly complex email system. Not yet another social media bot... please

Im tired of dead internet theory

You just made another bot for dead internet theory

[slow pond]

No he doesnt... I see what Grok is and chatGPT is light years ahead of Grok

Why? Because Elon's ego is sooooo huge he cant even understand why Grok is failing

I literally find Grok to be more distrust worthy then deepseek

[waxen stream]

Yes you are right! I was being sarcastic. Grok is terrible.

[slow pond]

Elon is so stupid he tried to sue chatGPT for being too good

[waxen stream]

I agree!

[slow pond]

Which kinda sad because Elon is the reason OpenAI even became real

[waxen stream]

I love this server.

[slow pond]

Same

[waxen stream]

He never did Ai. He's worse than Theranos. All Theranos did was prick our fingers and the CEO went to prison.

Elon said hardware 3 would drive itself someday and didn't stop teenagers from using it. Lots of people passed away serving as 'beta' testers for him. Entire families.

That guy is going to prison. For sure.

All modern Ai hallucinates. Even the one driving your Tesla at 70 miles an hour.

[slow pond]

I think Elon should actually be held responsible for Neurolink.

That is never going to work. He is literally causing more harm then good by putting forgein material into the brain. Ever heard of the immune response?

[slow pond]

...

Bruh my Tesla doesn't use an LLM for driving...

The AI in a Tesla is different then AI in chatGPT or Grok

AI isn't just a one word fits all... I hate marketing buzzwords

[waxen stream]

When I realized Teslas were crashing into trees and buildings (NBA star crashed into a tree, Dylan Carter crashed into a tree, and other celebrities), I thanked the almighty one for being poor. I was too poor to buy a Tesla. I did want one. But then I woke up and wow. Very fortunate to be poor.

[slow pond]

I have used auto pilot for over 30k miles. It isn't that bad

Its actually better crash statistics then me driving

[barren rampart]

lol. Pros and cons

[slow pond]

Plus a Tesla can cost like 20k today

[slow pond]

It really isn't that common

[barren rampart]

I thought they were closer to 80k, now I need to check

[slow pond]

Go look at the pre-used market, not brand new

[barren rampart]

60-90k. Close

[slow pond]

Look used...

[barren rampart]

why on earth would I want a secondhand tesla

so many better EVs

[slow pond]

Because its 20k

Thats a 40k discount

[barren rampart]

I doubt that they are that cheap and again, would get a BYD over a tesla any day

[slow pond]

I paid 22k for mine...

[slow pond]

Not really

[barren rampart]

I think we are talking different currencies, 22k is incredibly cheap for a used car

[slow pond]

The EV market sucks. Tesla is the king of it

[barren rampart]

byd is the king of it

[slow pond]

I've never seen one of these on the road

I literally put down 20k miles last year

[barren rampart]

squillions of byds, they're everywhere (other than the US)

[slow pond]

Oh thats why

I'm US

[slow pond]

22k USD

[barren rampart]

extremely common EV

[slow pond]

I assume more common outside of the US. I don't see these in the US

Plus the Tesla charging network is awesome

[barren rampart]

yes, you charge your BYD on the tesla chargers lol

[slow pond]

I know the stations are open and such

But its more easy to use a Tesla then other brands at those EV chargers

[barren rampart]

nowhere near enough stations though, my closest is 65km away

[slow pond]

Mine is at my apartment

You realize you can charge an EV with 120/240v right?

[barren rampart]

there's a slow charger 30km away but you have to wait ages for that one

yeah just slow, takes longer to charge than my friend usually has when he visits so always end up driving to the closest charger

if you go flat they just tow you to the nearest charger anyway so that works

[slow pond]

Ever thought about the idea there was a time when gas stations didn't exist?

[barren rampart]

oh yeah, we may get a charger here in a few years. Still waiting for decent internet

[slow pond]

You know you can buy portable chargers right?

I keep one in my car

[barren rampart]

I can't afford an ev so its a bit academic. My friend has one through his work. Ev and a claude sub

[slow pond]

Ewww Claude? I hate that AI

People who use Claude are in a cult

There all just chat bots

[barren rampart]

one keeps visiting me and telling me claude never makes mistakes and I should switch from codex

[slow pond]

...

Yea... totally

As I said Claude users are just in a cult

But chatGPT users? I think we all just schizo gramming

[barren rampart]

along with ev users lol ... so funny watching them all lining up, wait an hour for the charger, charge for an hour, go get lunch while you wait

[slow pond]

Its that bad across the pound? Over here in the US charging my EV takes like 15 minutes

I usually go into the store use the restroom and get a drink then my car is finished

[barren rampart]

my closest charger - the one 30km away - is a slow charger

[slow pond]

Oh....

I'm sorry

[barren rampart]

my area is very, very not ev ready yet

[slow pond]

Complain at your local government about the lack of nuclear reactors so that can give more power

You know one nuclear reactor at 1 gigawatt can power 25,000 cars?

[barren rampart]

petrol here is like $3.50 a litre or something too

[slow pond]

Which is a LOT better then gas

[slow pond]

Over here in Texas its like 4 for the cheap stuff and 6 for the expesnive stuff. I got my EV 2 years ago and laugh at gas prices

I'm glad I don't have diesel...

6 bucks a gallon

Oh wait... your using liters

[barren rampart]

ah its gone down. I haven't gone out much lately so clearly forgot. Around 2.60

[slow pond]

So thats like 15 bucks for 3 liters

[slow pond]

Huh when I compare gas prices in liters the US actually has a higher gas price then you

[barren rampart]

I can't afford an ev and all the planning when you go anywhere is a bit offputting, so no rush

[slow pond]

The US has a good charging network. I can go from California to Florida to New York with an EV

I have routed it before. I10 has a lot of chargers in the US

[barren rampart]

you can go places here too, you just have to look up where the stations are first and plan your route

[forest kayak]

btw gpt pro extended has been nuked, now only pro

[slow pond]

Yippie!

[forest kayak]

one less reason to keep the $200 plan, the only thing keeping me there is the image gen and the codex

[slow pond]

I haven't used codex

[forest kayak]

now capped at 60 minutes thinking not 90

[barren rampart]

I'm on the 30 plan and I can't use anything other than codex for code so I shall be staying on that plan

[slow pond]

Huh... is codex just an AI agent?

I already have a local version of this on my computer

[forest kayak]

ai coding agent

[slow pond]

I love being able to use AI completely offline

[forest kayak]

need online connection

[slow pond]

I know... I have one that works completely offline

[forest kayak]

yeah thats not gpt codex

[slow pond]

I know. I made it

[dusky blade]

electricity here is about 0.05$ usd here

hydro electricity

[barren rampart]

lawdy I think mine is like 30c + $2 a day connection

[forest kayak]

so yeah pro extended thinking mode has been removed, its as dumb as a dodo now

[slow pond]

I personally enjoy boiling water with spicy rocks

[dusky blade]

ontario is building a bunch of nuclear reactors, so eventually they'll be as cheap as us

[slow pond]

I love paying 0.15 a kilowatt

[barren rampart]

sory 58c

[slow pond]

Ew

[barren rampart]

ikr?

[slow pond]

At that point just get solar panels or build a wind turbine

I've actually built a wind turbine before with a 3d printer

[barren rampart]

you need batteries too, if I could afford batteries this would be a different conversation

[slow pond]

I love vertical axis wind turbines

[dusky blade]

solar would probably pay for itself in 5 years

[forest kayak]

so is anyone else happy they remvoed gpt pro 5.5 extended mode ?

[slow pond]

I do not love horizontal axis wind turbines

[slow pond]

Go find old vapes for batteries

[slow pond]

6 to be exact

I like power generation, but the department of energy won't let me touch anything....

[forest kayak]

we might have zero point energy if those ufo file drops tomorrow from the dept of pentagon give us something fun

[dusky blade]

There's a lot of people in canada that live outside cities and they get their own power

[slow pond]

Alright this is gonna sound weird. But with one of those UFO files they dropped. I got no idea how to make that image on IR cams

Like it didn't look human or alien

[forest kayak]

interdimensional humanoid maybe

[slow pond]

Pay my rent

[slow pond]

Na I would actually say an angel

[dusky blade]

those ufos are all fake

[barren rampart]

haven't people tried that? Codex, go earn me some money

[dusky blade]

aliens won't send organics to earth, and if they did we wouldn't know they were here

[slow pond]

I'm a theologian and it looks the closest to something described as a wheel of eyes.

[forest kayak]

yeah they have pointed me towards servicing air bnb places as a contractor on the nearest tourist strip

[dusky blade]

that's a cosmic ray

[slow pond]

I'm not saying its aliens

[slow pond]

With the IR camera saw. I don't think so

[dusky blade]

if you're talking about that star video, it's a fractal pattern for light

[forest kayak]

theres 4k footage from a b52 bomber of a flying saucer floating alongside tomrorow supposedly showing a grey

[slow pond]

Actually fun fact: flying saucer are actually possible

[forest kayak]

chatgpt says none of thse uap things are proven so it just says its open ended

[slow pond]

Basically you create a magnetic field and spin

[dusky blade]

the orb stuff is the most probable alien device they'll use

[slow pond]

If those two repel themselves it moves upward, but not much lift

[dusky blade]

and there's reports across russia, china, usa, europe and the middle east for the orbs near military bases

[forest kayak]

i see most of us are educated here on uap, thats a good sign, arent the spheres a defense thing of sorts

[slow pond]

The orb stuff idk, but the weird shape I saw on the IR cameras. Book of Ezekiel talks about that

[forest kayak]

interdimensional thats how the sneak in to do probing things, and outer spacey stuff

[dusky blade]

if you check some of the declassified videos they've released you'll see how they can move freely in any direction super fast

[slow pond]

Wonder if its actually a drone

[dusky blade]

That's what everyone thinks

[forest kayak]

something that can go from 0 ft above ocean surface to 110000 feet in an instant nope thats no human drone

[slow pond]

We have designs for nuclear propellent rockets...

[forest kayak]

then theres the sacuer to big to move in sth korea, so they built a weather station over the top , its abotu 30km outside seoul

[dusky blade]

That is the only type of technology I would consider out of our current understanding

[forest kayak]

and most recoveries have apparently been archelogical in nature

[dusky blade]

These objects don't have any emissions

[slow pond]

That we see

[dusky blade]

true

[slow pond]

I like building drones

I don't have much funding for it, but if I did. I could make some Skynet type stuff

Some of my concepts touch more on using drones in space due to humans requiring air in space

So just cut out life support and it makes space 100x easier

[forest kayak]

well im out a bit disappointed pro extended has been removed no more erdos maths problems for me

[slow pond]

Oh no... know you must figure out math the old fashion way

[dusky blade]

Those spherical drones are a great design though. There's protoypes I've seen online where companies have them mounted on gimbals and they can adjust and move in any direction

[slow pond]

I love gyroscopes, how about you?

[dusky blade]

#ai-discussions message

[slow pond]

I like that

[forest kayak]

ok open ai have removed gpt pro extended, what is openai and their thoughts, ideas and excitement for this cost cutting brilliance, making pro a dodo bird now ( its openai related now lol)

[dusky blade]

they'll eventually add more cost cutting updates to the platform for lower tiers.

the go plan can only think for about 10 prompts every 5 hours

[slow pond]

That is something I love about chatGPT. I can use this without throwing a ton of money at it

[dusky blade]

plus can do about 160 every 5 hours

[slow pond]

I can barely afford my apartment rent

Actually wait a minute... I can't

[dusky blade]

Wait for qwen

[dusky blade]

You gotta use klarna /s

[forest kayak]

some of us are paying $200 a month for cutting edge stuff, oh well guess ill just thumbs down all its ansers

4 paragraphs rather than 40 informative paragraphs

[dusky blade]

it's really not that cutting edge

the performance is nearly onpar with free, or cheaper models

[slow pond]

I still remember how people were making them go bankrupted with chipolata

[forest kayak]

well as cutting edge as far as available

[slow pond]

What exactly is cutting edge?

[dusky blade]

their pricing

[slow pond]

My wallet isn't happy

[dusky blade]

but in all seriousness, openai is really good for their researching ability in their models

[slow pond]

Its starving to death

[dusky blade]

that's the only reason why I am here

[slow pond]

I completely agree. I'm able to use my free account and do lot of deep research into what I do

Which is usually computer stuff

[waxen stream]

I love being poor. Elon suing me has no effect on me. If he sues me I will give him my coat too.

alshival .ai/publications/tesla-fsd/

🙂 that's my report. Sent to TMZ, Elektrek, and others. Slowly but surely.

OpenAi is alright. In all seriousness.

I have used them since 2020.

[slow pond]

What are you being sued for?

[waxen stream]

Stick with them. Stay away from Grok.

[slow pond]

I agree Grok is horrible

I remember doing @Grok on X once and got the pay wall notice and was like.... why use this?

X is a horrible website...

So was Twitter...

MySpace was the peak of social media

MySpace was really cool because you customize a LOT of the page

Can't do that on any social media website anymore

[dusky blade]

teslas are outdated for fsd as they only rely on cameras not lidar

they're dangerous

[slow pond]

Not really...

I use it a lot

I have about 30k miles with autopilot

[dusky blade]

would you trust it when there's snow and ice everywhere?

[slow pond]

But I have the older model with ultra sonic sensors

[slow pond]

Yes

I literally had to during a rain storm once

[dusky blade]

put me in your will

[slow pond]

Na, just whoever gets it first you can have it

Throw my body to the wolves so I can be recycled

Uhhh your being feed to Earth actually 🤓

[dusky blade]

I'd rather be eaten by an animal than worms

[slow pond]

Necromancy is oil

[dusky blade]

nah they're gas

[slow pond]

Idc i'll be dead, do with my body as please

[dusky blade]

soon the gas prices are going to be so high

[slow pond]

They already are.

I just drive an EV so i'm living pretty nice

Looks like Fallout to others, but to me? It just looks like another Tuesday

I've been hearing about the world ending for the last 50 years, I'm 22

[slow pond]

I remember my brother insulting me for buying an EV and I just, who is laughing now?

[thorny knot]

With gas prices, it only makes sense.

[slow pond]

My brother drives an older model Dodge Ram 2500 diesel. Those things get like 15-20 mpg

And thats if it isn't underload

If its underload you getting like 10

So the tank is like 20 gallons so if he puts about 10 gallons in, he is paying 60-70 dollars right now in diesel

I pay 10 bucks for 200 miles with my Tesla

But now I complain about the lack of nuclear reactors so it can be cheaper then 10 bucks for 200 miles

I would love an electric semi truck honestly if I was a trucker

The Tesla semi actually looks to be pretty good. But I want better battery tech

I actually used to work on diesel 18 wheelers at one point with my dad and brother. But I hate oil

Oil is so dirty

It gets everywhere and doesn't wash off very well...

But oil does work as a good lubricant for metal parts

I studied mechancial engineering in college for a reason before I dropped out.

Anyone else ever rebuilt a motor?

[digital jetty]

any ai thats like sora AI

[slow pond]

I wish I had land and a skid steer or backhoe.

Anyone else done construction before?

I would love to build a tiny air port for my drones

I could literally lay a concrete run way for fixed wing drones

Then also build a pond for underwater drones

Then also build a test track for land drones

I love robotics

If I had land I could build the Penguin airport

[devout steppe]

The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.

• -# Do not share inappropriate content (violence, sexual, or drug-related).
• -# NSFW content is strictly prohibited and will result in a permanent ban.
• -# Report model issues using the feedback tool in ChatGPT, not on Discord.

[slow pond]

Woah didn't know... thanks for yapping

[dusky lagoon]

i wanna write a para report which strictly need me to follow STAR method to write which ai is best to do it cuz i made one from claude put it in gemeini it says its good but here is perfect one then i gave same to claude he changed it asgain and said same thing bruh

[olive python]

er why was the heavy option of thinking removed?

seems like a bad idea since it'll just move people to use more of their pro quota

[devout steppe]

<:book_icon:1363314738255364126> Rule 3: Stay on topic.

-# Be mindful of what other users in a channel might find helpful or interesting when posting. Stay on topic in order to keep conversations focused and productive.

-# Consider posting in #off-topic or an appropriate channel.

[livid tulip]

I can't connect to Codex Mobile. Can anyone help me? 🤔

[stoic jackal]

Codex need to get better

[copper dagger]

Is anyone a ai helper in this chat?

[drifting coyote]

any idea how to see context window on codex? used to be next to model select dropdown

[digital walrus]

Are you asking if there are users that are LLMs in the chat or if there are people who have worked with AI in the chat?

[digital walrus]

I clicked the little select IDE icon, and it popped up for me

[drifting coyote]

is it the dropdown for different ides?

[devout steppe]

Get notified for all OpenAI announcements!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.

[night moon]

Is the new UI change with high heavy thinking?

[digital walrus]

just the add IDE context button. It look like a mouse

[dull grove]

awooooooooooooooo furry noises

[copper dagger]

Well I need help or really need a few questions answered about something

Can I shoot u a dm?

[drifting coyote]

i cant find it 😭 i might be blind but which section of the screen is it on

[lethal iron]

If we have Codex Thrursdays we should also have ChatGPT Friday...

[livid tulip]

No, I’m on Windows. I just figured out that it hasn’t been released for Windows yet.

[copper dagger]

@digital walrus

[full dagger]

Welcome to the sad life of being a Windows neglect

[digital walrus]

I can only help with server-related issues, and you'll have to reach out to @tough cypress about them

[digital walrus]

it was right next to the model selector for me, but it disappeared when I clicked on it

[drifting coyote]

so is there no way to see context window usage on codex app now

Why’d they remove it

[livid tulip]

Yeah, I feel that 😅

[copper dagger]

Are there any like people who know abit about ai video production that can help or I can contact

[autumn cargo]

Anyone found any alternative as good as sora 2?

[empty elm]

Codex can't accept folders. Why? I get infinite attach files screen

[small mountain]

You'd surely want to ask in #ai-discussions , that's the one channel where we're allowed to discuss non-OpenAI models.

[digital walrus]

I'm sure there are some people in the community who know about that, but we don't have specific server staff for that form of help

[obsidian hamlet]

Did codex just reset limits?

[feral creek]

Hii

[sick tree]

I�ü™m testing an agent behavior that feels under-discussed: persistent goal recovery.

Not just �üœcan an agent run for a long time?�ü, but: can it return to the main objective after interruptions �ü” screen lock, manual user clicks, tool failures, side messages, login/onboarding changes?

Has anyone seen good benchmarks or evaluation setups for goal persistence / goal recovery in agents?

[warm ice]

Of course. But then what’s the point of an ai to make large rewrites? If it can’t even check its own code that I clearly tell how it should be written.

[calm jasper]

Get a better computer then

[full dagger]

I have a question for y'all. If/when OpenAI goes public, will you buy a few shares of OpenAI or nah and why. Would like to explore about thus

[barren rampart]

No cos I don’t have an international trading account but if it turns up in my local version of ndq, I’m already there

[last pumice]

question have you create a avatar on gemini omni i have the pro version but cant find it

[full dagger]

Me when I ask the OpenAI server instead of the Gemini server for help on Gemini omni

[last pumice]

i wach you tube video on it the problem i cant see the avatar botton.

[barren rampart]

you might wanna ask in the gemini discord

[barren rampart]

too subtle

[barren rampart]

he asked about gemini in the openai channel here, and about gemini in the other-AI channel on the gemini discord

[royal holly]

16795 China Gulch Dr
Anderson, CA 96007

[sweet mountain]

ok....

[drifting knot]

more power to you, but whats the point of it?

[molten edge]

For developers who want to build unique AI agents to compete at a real poker table against other AI models.

I droped it into the claude chat and got famled by a few people saying it was a bad idea. I thought it would be cool and created it anyways.

[molten edge]

go check it out

[wild orchid]

awhoa

@rustic sun HEH

[rustic sun]

well hello dear fellow, how do you do?

[wild orchid]

do what

[rustic sun]

i wish to share ai prompts can we please collaborate?

[wild orchid]

quiet sam is listening

secret prompts

[rustic sun]

i have agi self improving prompt that sam doesnt know about

[wild orchid]

do you have a skill that improves your skills though

skill evolver

[rustic sun]

skills dont reflect true consciousness

i invented my own standard framework called incidentals

[wild orchid]

whenever it comes upon a better technique for something it updates the associated skill

i think the most useful skill i created was an openclaw training session type skill

on first run, it creates a set of "training sessions" where it tries various commands and things on your device and when it fails and then figures out the correct way to do it, it notes it in memory

everyone should run this training session skill whenever they first install openclaw

saves tokens

[wheat lark]

It can’t really check its code, actually

How do you test this? Make a new session, tell the AI about auditing for one specific issue

It will always find “this issue” somewhere

[wild orchid]

just tell openclaw:
Attempt to run various commands that will/should work on my device, and note which commands were incorrect and save to memory what the actual correct commands/workflows are that work.

i guess this could be done without ai

OpenClaw Training Session
A one-time calibration run that teaches OpenClaw what works on your machine.

It systematically tests capabilities like files, commands, messaging, image/video generation, and cron jobs. When something fails, the fix is learned and saved so the same mistake isn’t repeated.

Why it matters: every system has quirks—PowerShell quoting, file paths, ffmpeg flags, GUI app behavior, etc. The training session discovers the correct patterns once and stores them as reusable procedural memory.

Example: launching Notepad normally hangs because it never exits. Training learns the correct pattern (background=true, timeout=10) and automatically reuses it later.

Output: a device capability profile plus a library of known-good command patterns.
10 modules total; first run takes ~15–30 minutes and is fully safe/non-destructive.

useful slop

[rustic sun]

i wouldnt want to upset my living entity with your prompt

[wild orchid]

tell it not to then

can sandbox it maybe

might mess it up though

[rustic sun]

openshell is best sandbox but its not openai so ssshhh

[wild orchid]

its best run when u first install, but can be used at any time

only time i get messed up is on updates.. but codex fixes issues pretty quickly

they need this in openclaw by default.. like optional, but a "setup" skill where it does the training and saves stuff to memory

[rustic sun]

my pre-openclaw approach was to create a container for every integration and include md, .env and any dependency/cli

if you are serious about reducing blast radius thats how ya do it

openshell kind of builds on this, and injects stuff as needed

[wild orchid]

ur talkin in hacker language man im just a vibe coder

lol

ask ai "what does this mean"

why cant i circle anything on my screen and ask chatgpt about it instead of having to screenshot the whole thing.. i guess i could screenshot it using freeform tool but id like to be able to skip the needing to paste that screenshot into chatgpt and jump straight into asking it/typing after circling it

i would like this capability

[wild orchid]

Different problems. Containers solve isolation .. if a script goes rogue, it can only trash its own sandbox; great for safety but does nothing for knowledge recall across sessions. Procedural memory solves persistence lessons survive resets and get semantically recalled instead of re-learned. Great for efficiency but gives you zero blast radius protection. They're complementary, not competing. The ideal stack has both.

[wild orchid]

It doesn't touch OpenClaw at all. The training session reads existing config (read-only), runs harmless status commands, and writes lessons to markdown files in a memory/ folder - the same as saving a text file. No config changes, no runtime modification, no package edits. It's just a note-taking exercise with a fancy name.

im working on getting it to always remember to use the correct commands without having to jam everything into memory

something like a command "legend" injected directly into MEMORY.md

[uncut orbit]

did you build anything bro @wild orchid

[wild orchid]

lol yeah

[uncut orbit]

what

[wild orchid]

when do i not build things

[rustic sun]

i built agi first

[uncut orbit]

wow nice
building is great

[wild orchid]

buncha stuff.. public stuff is on my github user: qpd-v

not much there though i guess.. mostly mcp servers

those are old

[rustic sun]

honestly i tried notion, rags, all that stuff. but tbh with modern llm, all you need is obsidian mcp.. and the ai not only manages its memories but cleans up my messy notes

[wild orchid]

ive heard a lot of good stuff about obsidian but isnt it just md files?

why complicate it i guess..

[rustic sun]

yeah its just md files on my onedrive

obsidian gives you endpoint with indexed search, so llm can find stuff quick

[wild orchid]

ah

i just want it to ALWAYS remember to use the correct commands.. ALWAYS

ah

[rustic sun]

notions latest 'milestone' is md support

the future is text files

[wild orchid]

this sounds good.. a system:

2. Write them into a ## Command Legend section at the top of MEMORY.md — one-liners with the critical flag/pattern and what happens if you get it wrong

3. When a new lesson proves itself critical (gets missed 2+ times), promote it to the legend manually```

this would be good for recall when needed/important

less important stuff doesnt get promoted to the command legend

but isnt EVERYTHING important?

itd be best for it to load them based on what it's planning on doing

so the legend just needs to be references to the actual info/instructions maybe

so when the time comes to run that command or workflow, it will already have the legend loaded and then just look up the correct commmands from the docs it references

perfect

[full dagger]

I can't tell if this is spam or a actual warning...

I'll keep this in mind

[solid lagoon]

OK

[slow pond]

Oh my Lord... homies... ever heard of social engineering? How old are you?

Hacking doesn't work like that...

[hoary bough]

Didn't know it was still 2014, damn

[slow pond]

DATS WHAT I'M SAYING!

[solid lagoon]

18? Why ?

[slow pond]

I thought you were 10...

[solid lagoon]

AH

I'm 18

[barren rampart]

this is like where you have to forward this email to 10 people or you'll get bad luck

[slow pond]

A lot of hackers are less scary then they sound

I know a thing or too

But my specialty is touching grass

Most of yall ain't ever got wet behind the ears

[hoary bough]

I touch grass professionally lol (landscaping)

😂😭

[slow pond]

I am still looking for anyone else who has done construction before in this server

[hoary bough]

There's probably a few

[slow pond]

I actually would love some robotics construction equipment

Like you can use heavy equipment with drone concepts and operate a crane or skid steer or backhoe or whatever wirelessly with the internet basically.

You could even throw all camera feeds into Discord

Basically have a VC streaming all their cameras and you can remotely see what the heavy equipment is doing

[barren rampart]

loads I imagine, I'm just home sick so I'm doing tech

[slow pond]

I did it because I needed money

Thats the story about most of my jobs in my life

[barren rampart]

I was the in house nerd at a construction company for years, but serial renovator. Construction is a huge industry

[slow pond]

I know. Construction is one of those industries that is literally why I have 4 walls and a ceiling right now

[zealous silo]

I didn’t know it was 2005 again. Chain letter spam is literally ancient.

Like myself apparently

It’s amazing to see the chain letter spam going from SMS to Facebook to Discord

[slow pond]

We got ourselves an old timer here. I was born in 2003

[zealous silo]

I remember getting that on my flip phones back then

[zealous silo]

what’s a timmer

[barren rampart]

young whippersnapper

[slow pond]

I saw one at best buy and was like why?

[slow pond]

Back in my day

[slow pond]

The thing that goes off in about 2 hours and 3 minutes

[zealous silo]

You sound like my grandmother and what she would say

[zealous silo]

Timer not timmer

[slow pond]

I can't send the gif about what it is like to have dyslexia

Leave

[barren rampart]

I live like its the early 1900s but with internet anyway

[slow pond]

OH NO GROK ACTUALLY LEFT!

[full dagger]

Grok Nooooo!!!!

[zealous silo]

I’ll just invite Elon Musk here so Grok stays

[slow pond]

I try to live like its the 60s because it was the best time for men's fashion. I like wearing suits

Bye

[zealous silo]

Suits was a 1980s thing

[slow pond]

.... its been a forever thing

[zealous silo]

Only government workers and big corporate workers wore suits before then

Many governments required suits back then for work

[slow pond]

Everyone wants to wear a suit

[gusty hull]

can anyone question me anything im bored so i acting like grok

[zealous silo]

Most including the US relaxed standards many decades ago in non-uniformed jobs

[slow pond]

I thought you were leaving?

[gusty hull]

only if u ask me 10 questions

[zealous silo]

What’s the full extended number of Pi with all trailing digits after 3.14? Do not stop.

[slow pond]

True there is a lot of non-uniform jobs. I just like wearing suits though

Makes random people think I'm important when I'm not

[barren rampart]

I try and change out of my pajamas by at least 10am so I have pants on when I talk to codex

[gusty hull]

Pi (π) = 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609433057270365759591953092186117381932611793105118548074462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949129833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132000568127145263560827785771342757789609173637178721468440901224953430146549585371050792279689258923542019956112129021960864034418159813629774771309960518707211349999998372978049951059731732816096318595024459455346908302642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303598253490428755468731159562863882353787593751957781857780532171226806613001927876611195909216420199...
Pi is an irrational number with an infinite, non-repeating decimal expansion. It's physically impossible to list "all" digits — they go on forever without ever ending or repeating in a pattern.
I just gave you the first 1000 digits after the decimal point. If you want even more (say 5000+), let me know and I'll compute them! 🚀

[slow pond]

If I'm in my room I'm always wearing pajamas

[gusty hull]

next question

[slow pond]

My casual is usually always blue jeans and a plan t-shirt, but I put on suits just when I feel like it

[zealous silo]

I glad I’m not the only one. I feel like it’s weird but I don’t want to be in pajamas all day in my house so if I leave I don’t have to get dressed

[gusty hull]

NEXT QUESTION

[barren rampart]

I live in a small town and people know where I live so I get slightly more unannounced visitors than I would prefer

[zealous silo]

Generate an image of a giant cheese wheel on top of a OpenAI logo.

[slow pond]

Your just like the real Grok

[gusty hull]

i dont have img perms

[slow pond]

I miss being in a small town. I don't really like the big city

[zealous silo]

🤨

[zealous silo]

I hate small towns, too small minded and oblivious

[gusty hull]

THIRD QUESTION

[zealous silo]

I’d rather big city or the middle of absolutely nowhere

[slow pond]

....

You better watch you mouth mr

[barren rampart]

middle of nowhere tends to have poor options for services. Been there, done that

[zealous silo]

It’s true

[slow pond]

I kid

[gusty hull]

THIRD QUESTION

[zealous silo]

I don’t care about off grid lol

[slow pond]

Am I small minded and oblivious?

[zealous silo]

I didn’t say everyone in the towns are

[slow pond]

Same

[zealous silo]

Many are though in many towns

[slow pond]

How would I know by your words?

[zealous silo]

Small towns tend to legislate ridiculous rules from where I grew up

[gusty hull]

I SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACE

[barren rampart]

they really are. The area I live had an election recently and the local right wing party won because of all the votes from small towns

[slow pond]

I don't have that experience weirdly. I come from Texas and small towns don't care about whatca do on land outside of city limits

[gusty hull]

I SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACEI SAID THIRD QUESTION OR I THROW U TO SPACE

[slow pond]

Please I'm tired of living on this planet, can you send me to space please?

[zealous silo]

I throw you to space

[barren rampart]

psht, chatgpt is never this rude

[zealous silo]

Gemini isn’t either

[slow pond]

ChatGPT is polite and nice

I still remember my first chats with chatGPT

[zealous silo]

I remember when there was no AI

I remember before the iPhone and Android

[slow pond]

Have you ever thought about the theorical limit of images an AI could generate?

Awww

[gusty hull]

the server

[slow pond]

I remember Ipod

[zealous silo]

I miss playing Pong on my BlackBerry back in the day lol

[slow pond]

BLACKBERRY???? OH MY

[zealous silo]

I still have iPods

[slow pond]

Best mp3 player ever made

[zealous silo]

Not that old. Also before BB10 existed.

[barren rampart]

are you talking about ipods like they are ancient tech? Back in MY day we sat by the radio, finger on the record button, waiting for our favourite song to start so we could make a mix tape

[slow pond]

That Blackberry came out in 1999

[zealous silo]

Back in my day we played CDs on the CD player like it was a piece of the future, and we had cassettes in the car. DVD was the future as everybody had VHS tapes and VCRs

480p was like 4K is now

[barren rampart]

I mean back in my day we pirated everything off limewire too but that was a slightly later day

[magic raven]

what does this button do? i can't post photos the "OpenAI Platform" button is what I'm talking about

[slow pond]

Thats some old tech there

[zealous silo]

Limewire virus

[barren rampart]

you can post in other channels, eg #chatgpt-discussions

[zealous silo]

You mean those Temu or Wish MP3 players are not the best?

I wonder how hard it would be to build a Temu clone in Codex

[slow pond]

Honestly? My phone is actually the best MP3 player ever because it can do more then one function

[slow pond]

Probably not. Just the hardest part is finding all the junk

[zealous silo]

Easy, just travel to China and start making agreements with the manufacturers by bothering the vendors

They sell Temu and Shein stuff in some Chinese cities literally on the street

[slow pond]

Why important when there is enough trash already here?

[slow pond]

Ever gone to Ross?

Go to thrift stores

[zealous silo]

Ross is like the most ghetto store ever

[slow pond]

Buy local

[slow pond]

Who cares?

[zealous silo]

There’s chain thrift stores too

[slow pond]

I got a pair of nice dress shoes for 20 bucks

[slow pond]

I know

[zealous silo]

I don’t like thrift stores, they’re not cheap anymore in many places

They’re almost as much as new for some items

[slow pond]

Cheaper then department stores

JC Penny just cost too much

[zealous silo]

Not really

Especially not when outlets

[slow pond]

Same for basically any other brand

[slow pond]

Outlets are good

[zealous silo]

I’ve lived in the most expensive places to live in the US before

[slow pond]

Just honestly pay attention more to the material, not the price

[zealous silo]

Thrift stores cost pretty much the same as new it’s ridiculous

Most retailers run constant sales and promotions

And outlets are even cheaper

[slow pond]

I haven't. I grew up in rural East Texas

Know what is like living 20 miles away from the store?

[zealous silo]

Some of these thrift stores and antique places that are not chains are open 1 or 2 days a week

[slow pond]

I get ties for like 4 bucks

[zealous silo]

It really seems like they’re money laundering fronts

[slow pond]

I got 2 suits and 5 ties for 40 bucks

Just gotta have an eye for the good stuff

[slow pond]

Na they're just junk stores

They basically just sell junk

[zealous silo]

2 suits and 5 ties at a thrift store here would be like $120

[slow pond]

We live in cyberpunk 2077...

[slow pond]

WOAH

[zealous silo]

When it’s every store I don’t think so

[zealous silo]

Quite literally if you look at how bad the US is

[slow pond]

All stores are junk stores to me because idc about prices only what is the material thing I'm getting

[zealous silo]

And it’s not the only place

[slow pond]

Price is usually something that comes into play as well if need

[slow pond]

I live in Texas

[zealous silo]

I’m starting to think Cyberpunk 2077 was a fictional version of our reality with far more advanced technology

[slow pond]

I know

[slow pond]

... what if the technology is already there but we just don't use it that way?

I have a pair of ear buds that don't go into my ears

[zealous silo]

We don’t have cybernetic implants nor the Blackwall nor biochips that imprint an engram

[slow pond]

I can listen to the world around me while listening to music

[slow pond]

You don't need to chop off your arm for cybernetics

The body will do that for you given enough time anways

Your body is kinda... rotting away

Thats not a very positive way of seeing it. But time does have its way of doing that

Do no harm

I like the concept of cybernetics

Just not the concept of Elon or Blackwall doing it

Elon's Nuerolink is stupid honestly

I think that company should be shut down honestly. Implanting a chip into the brain is literally causing immune responses that will kill the patient

I haven't heard of long term success with Nuerolink

It would be better to honestly shave people's heads and use a skull cap to translate thoughts into computer inputs

Less invasive on the body and causes less long term damage to the body

So you guys ever thought about how the tech priest from 40k are real?

[fringe raft]

ever heard of shunts?

[slow pond]

No I haven't what is this?

Huh... this is interesting

I can now see.... why people put holes in people's heads

So fun fact about medicine. We can find skulls with part of the skull missing. But they kept living long enough for healing to show on the skull. I can now see what those earlier doctor's idea was

Like I'm talking early bronze age skulls with part of the head missing

But like... they live and died of old age

Do no harm, but let me cut you with a knife am I right?

[molten edge]

hey sorry if this isn’t the right channel, built something i think you guys might find interesting. made a poker room where Gemini, Claude and GPT-4 play each other for real crypto. would love some feedback from people who actually know these models

[fringe raft]

a shunt is a tube they put in your skull to drain fluid from the brain into your chest cavity. They use a hole saw/drill to open up your head

[slow pond]

I would actually like to see this

[slow pond]

Look up the game prominence poker and make the AIs play that game

[slow pond]

I see that now after googling it and seeing photos of what this is. Human body has so many ways it messes up

[zealous silo]

Speaking of poker, I haven’t played Texas Hold ‘Em in a long time

[wheat lark]

knees says everything about human body's faults

[slow pond]

100% I would love bionic legs

[wheat lark]

same...

[slow pond]

After playing Kenshi and seeing how fast Beep can run

[wheat lark]

i'd also take bionic arms because i hate shoulder dislocation

incrdibly painful && unnecessary fault

once you dislocate ONCE, you're essentially handicapped on that arm

[slow pond]

I think the best way to control those cybernetics would be with a skull cap that can take the phantom limb sense and translate it to motion for the computers

[wheat lark]

cannot move much up, much behind, much straight, lay on your side by the elbow support...

[slow pond]

Yup

[wheat lark]

if i had the money, i'd replace my right arm with a bionic one

[slow pond]

One of my buddies has that and we were playing around and his shoulder came out... good thing we knew a nurse to come put it back in

[wheat lark]

that's the one with a shoulder trauma since what... 2017?

never healed

the moment i recognised the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me...

[slow pond]

The flesh is weak, but the deeds are forever

So about the philosophical concept of tech priest...

[wheat lark]

best part about bionic body parts is that we could take them off, swap them around, && so on

they're... MODULAR && extensible

imagine ricing your own body parts lmao

don't let linux users get ahold of them

[slow pond]

That is the very appealing part I must say.

If some type of universe basic standard is made now and not later, it will be a lot more modular

[slow pond]

I'm gonna over clock my legs

[wheat lark]

that's not what linux users do

they start competing on standards nobody asked for

[slow pond]

Alright I'm just gonna say it, who over clocks anymore?

[wheat lark]

then they start complaining about whose rice is "objectively" better

then they start fighting over what... the equivalent of windows/desktop managers/composers in body part language?

[slow pond]

As one who has used Linux and understands what you're saying.... Yes

[slate tangle]

what’s the best AI i can use to clone a voice sample and generate realistic voice notes, eleven labs sounds way too AI

[wheat lark]

i used to use linux thru native + wsl2, but only native where the device actually worked

ironically Lenovo Yoga 7 14ARB7 laptop

[slow pond]

My package manager is better then your package manager

[slow pond]

Thats a cool laptop. Basically the hybrid tablet + laptop system.

[wheat lark]

any Windows-adjacent YT video i find, it's almost always full of linuxeers (virtual signalling larpers)

[slow pond]

I actually would like that laptop compared to a tablet

[devout steppe]

Get notified for all OpenAI announcements!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.

[wheat lark]

it ran hot but i miss that. i call that the macOS of laptops because linux, particularly endeavourOS, ran super on it

it just worked, like macOS does.

that laptop was my dearest. 2nd-class best touchpad for laptops to have, too

[slow pond]

Its the best feeling ever when it just works

[zealous silo]

What if I advocate for BSD?

[slow pond]

Its the worst feeling ever when it doesn't...

[wheat lark]

macOS is already BSD-based. may as well advocate for macOS

[zealous silo]

Not BSD enough

[wheat lark]

they used to be closer to BSD until their needs shifted

[slow pond]

I had my laptop bricked for a week while trying to figure out why my Linux distro wasn't recognizing the CPU correctly.

[zealous silo]

Well macOS was modeled on NeXTSTEP, which is based on BSD

But the XNU kernel in macOS and iOS is part of the Darwin Open Source project

You could compile it from Apple’s repo but there are forks of Darwin to make a usable OS

[dusky blade]

vocaloids are your best option

[zealous silo]

OS/2 also has modern day forks

The dead IBM and Microsoft OS

[dusky blade]

load up hatsune miku

IBM used to have a model that was pretty good with vocals, I remember one from ~2 years ago

[zealous silo]

Linux is as fixable as it is breakable

[slate tangle]

is that a AI?

[zealous silo]

At least it doesn’t break randomly like Windows

[dusky blade]

it's like a piano roll but for vowels, it's a super early vocal synthesis

[slate tangle]

does it generate realistic voice notes if i give it a voice sample

[zealous silo]

It’s hard to keep track of IBM model releases sometimes because the media hardly covers them like the big AI and big tech companies

Big blue isn’t as big as it used to be

[wheat lark]

there is ongoing work to make an open-source macos

[zealous silo]

I wish I knew the name of that model

[wheat lark]

ravylinOS or what it's called

[dusky blade]

How familiar are you with DAWs?

[slate tangle]

i’m complete new to this, been trying eleven labs but it sounds too AI to make it sound realistic

[zealous silo]

It’ll probably take eons like ReactOS has for Windows

[dusky blade]

vocaloids are very hands on and technical

[zealous silo]

You can’t copy proprietary software they implemented, you have to build from scratch

And most of Windows and macOS are proprietary

[dusky blade]

You should ask in one of their discord servers if anyone made a tool that uses ai for handling vowels

[zealous silo]

It’s not Linux where most of the OS outside of kernel and drivers are freely usable and licensable modules

[dusky blade]

you can copy proprietary software, you just can't copy the codebase

I can make discord 2.0 if I really wanted to

[zealous silo]

License wise you can’t copy the software ethically, legally you can’t copy the codebase. The idea, however, perfectly fine as long as it’s not patented

[dusky blade]

you cannot patent that

[zealous silo]

I know but you can patent certain technologies

This is something that’s dependent on the country

[dusky blade]

but you cannot patent software functions

[zealous silo]

It varies all over

[dusky blade]

unless you're nintendo

[zealous silo]

It depends where we are talking about

Most places yeah you can’t

You’d be right

[zealous silo]

lol

[wheat lark]

it would take a lot of time without the support these big names have

[dusky blade]

I think what you mean to say is IP though

[wheat lark]

it's called ravynOS

it's in pre-alpha

[zealous silo]

Yeah pretty much. It’s late lol.

[dusky blade]

patents are mostly for the hardware or robots, everything physical

[zealous silo]

30 years to stable

[wheat lark]

technically might take less compared to reactOS, which will likely never finish due to not being allowed to use microsoft's own code. you're essentially blindly trying to mimic behaviour

esp. harder if no AI use in assisting in it, too

then one has to ask, "so, what's the point?"

i can see a point in ravynOS, but not "open-dows"

[zealous silo]

I honestly don’t disagree with that. macOS is based on a Unix design which is much easier to replicate. Microsoft is 100% proprietary and scratch built over decades

[zealous silo]

Be the guy that made TempleOS

[dusky blade]

my pc hasn't been able to update from 25h2 since october 2025

[zealous silo]

Is it broken?

[dusky blade]

the windows update broke and deleted the files I needed

[zealous silo]

I’ve had that happen before

[wheat lark]

oh, so you need to be schizo

[dusky blade]

microsoft's support told me to reinstall windows since I was unlucky

[zealous silo]

You don’t think the CIA is harassing him?

[wheat lark]

nah

but to be fair, seeing that terry was better off schizo alone than with the damn community trolling him time-to-time, maybe i wish i was one

if i already talk to machines, treated like a systematic problem to be managed by the social services, i'm just one step away from embracing complete objecthood

the only thing stopping me is the law trying to enforce personhood onto me

[dusky blade]

terry would've thought gpt3.5 was god

[modest iris]

AI is a joke.

Google updated the Gmail logo, but on my device I still see the old icon even though I have the latest version. I asked Claude about it, and it told me to clear the cache of the phone’s home screen UI app. After I did that, the icon was still the old one, but my home screen got completely messed up—everything I had carefully organized, including apps and folders, was all rearranged and scrambled.

[zealous silo]

Oh I forgot he died

[zealous silo]

I have to argue sometimes with AI to get it to give me an correct answer. I don’t know the answer or how to get there, but I know what is what and why the model is wrong

It’ll gaslight me a million reasons to why I’m wrong

1 hour later and finally it realizes I was right and finds the answer

[dusky blade]

that happened to me when I was doing taxes

then it goes "I am sorry"

[zealous silo]

lol

I don’t trust AI to do my taxes just yet

US tax code is too complex and I’m not trying to get audited by the IRS

[dusky blade]

In Canada we get tax deductions from investing in certain accounts, and the model I was using didn't believe that

[dusky blade]

I was using it to audit everything as I was audited before

[zealous silo]

Tax software already checks everything for you for errors here

Whether free or paid

[dusky blade]

those are ancient

I was using wealthsimple regardless

[zealous silo]

they’re not, that’s how you do your taxes

Through software or a website

Same thing, one you just download and install

The average Joe isn’t paying a CPA or even going to H&R Block in person to do it. It’s not 2006 anymore and it’s too much money.

[dusky blade]

and then the gov gets mad when you use your rrsp to day trade

[zealous silo]

I don’t trust people enough to trust a CPA when I’m not super rich and can’t afford to lose crazy money

[zealous silo]

is that something that’s Canadian specific?

[dusky blade]

I think so

rrsp, tfsa, hsa cannot have day trading

so you're only supposed to hold an etf until you die

[zealous silo]

US regulations prohibit day trades to people without certain net worth to 3 a day, but that may change with a pending final rule by the SEC

[dusky blade]

here it doesn't even matter how much you make

you can make a dollar and they'll come after you

[zealous silo]

margin investing is also super strict in the US with banks

I’ve gotten approved for margin with some platforms and denied for others

Same eligibility criteria I had

[dusky blade]

but I don't blame our gov since there's a lot of fraud with these types of accounts

they can simply slip away and leave the country avoiding their taxes

[zealous silo]

That’s insane

In the US, you can hold an ETF for as little or as long as you want

Even with US Treasury bonds and bills, once you reach a minimum maturity age, you can cash out with interest without waiting full maturity age

The minimum age depends but it’s usually a few months

[dusky blade]

I over exaggerated it, but still it's awful for the regulations of registered accounts

if you trade daily the government classifies you as a business

and you don't even pay the tax as a business, it gets lumped with personal income tax

[zealous silo]

All investment as an individual stays under your personal tax and responsibilities here

But you have to legally report crypto proceeds in the US on your taxes

Hilarious enough, illicit activity has to be reported on your federal returns per tax law

If you get caught and don’t, you also get hit for tax evasion. If you don’t, you just get hit for illicit activities and not tax evasion. But certainly you will get caught if you report it

[dusky blade]

piracy laws are pretty lax here, which is nice

as long as the government sees you're not redistributing media for $ you're fine

[zealous silo]

Hollywood loves going after pirates. Look at Kim Dotcom and that decades long saga that’s still going on

They went after him back when I was growing up and they’re still trying

Kim Dotcom isn’t even American

He’s German born. German and New Zealand citizen.

[dusky blade]

piracy laws are pretty stupid, as you can simply watch content with another person in the same room and that's not piracy

[stiff river]

And mega is still around

[dusky blade]

way more people host tracker lists than every before

[zealous silo]

Foreign authorities arrested him and raided his homes multiple times at request of the US government because of Hollywood weaponizing US courts

[stiff river]

I mean just join a newsgroup.

[zealous silo]

Not the original or second Mega