#images-discussions
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then do the prompt
Brown rock 
this is famous rock
The rock ? Like the one who played jumanji ?
Ok I'm sorry I thought it was funny
I also got no clue and was about to ask for the photograph
also inproper, but that was my intent before I saw @wispy storm 's remark
DALL-E is refusing a lot today
nobody even responded yet
you apologised before you even finished the joke
love this from copilot, that's what was passed from designer chat
Still struggling to recreate this style with new chats
Maybe it’s just the dalle update
“Realistic illustration” seems to gravitate towards this uncanny area:
it did a significant improvement on faces, reduced AI artifacts and all, but are considerably more uncany
lol using Copilot GPT on Edge to keep record of my OAI GPT chats to consolidate info
Total eclipse was awesome. We had over three minutes. Now, I wonder if I can recreate the same feeling with dalle3.
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Great news! You can now use inpainting in customGPTs also. At least on iOS app.
And web version.
Ngl I hate the new dalle
Feels like a downgrade when it comes to faces
It’s completely messed up my “realistic illustration” style
Could you give an example prompt you've used?
Can try "hand painted photorealism illustration" or "hand painted photorealistic illustration", might work.
Hey guys, i have a problem, with dalle, when i dl the image its on webp format instead of png, why ?
I think it was last week Windows had an update incorporating webp format.
Hey! WEBP has been the default for a little over a month now I think -- if you want, you can ask ChatGPT to use its data analysis tool to convert the image to PNG. Also, Eric from the OpenAI team indicated that the ability to download as PNG will return, link to that message: #1203978971449004052 message
How do I tell ChatGPT that I don't want the scene backlit? I want all the light coming from the same side as the viewer?
You guys still have webp stuff? I always get PNG <.<
I cheat tho, Safari copies the image from the browser as PNG regardless
This is what I made through AI
Anyone can enhance this picture to be like this?
This is what I want to achieve
This is what I made
@late blade Do you think you can mix this image with your anime style? I have its prompt
No, for that to happen I need to know I'm safe
That scares me
what?
lol, just teasing, gimme the prompt and I can try
A monstrous, obese wolf, its fur a dark, ominous black, muscles bulging with power, strides through a grim, dark bottomland. The wolf's movement is captured in an impressionistic blur, suggesting unstoppable force. The scene exudes a grainy, vintage feel, with visible strokes adding depth to the composition. This rough sketch, reminiscent of a comic video game.
I took inspiration from @fiery salmon 's style
moving to #images-canvas to showcase images
ok
Has any of you noticed that dall-e still does not inpaint properly stuff? More likely to remove than add?
for me it works perfectly as long as the workflow is followed, works good
That means, making sure that the selected mask is in the prompt along the edit option highlighted. It get's tricky regens
Ok. How would you describe the ”ideal” workflow?
how the OAI video shows lol
oh my goodness, I hit my cap before the change of day theme....
Oh geez.
that's what happens when theres business spring break
Still got copilot, but it's not the same
I got one of those team things with two seats and still hit both caps the other day working on scampers.
dang
I usually, when working don't reach caps so fast or at all, so getting a team for my personal use is just overkill
I thought it would be too lol
Granted I hit the second cap and only had to wait 17 minutes for the reset. But I managed to hit both.
lol, that's a busy scampers there
Scampers is busy. Haven't you seen?
Hello everyone, can you help me ? I have a problem where Dall-e is refusing to generate images depicting neglect or decay on structures due to some internal policy. Is there a way to overcome this ?
Funnily enough the AI agrees that the policy is too restrictive. 😄
if you using chagpt plus try to ask him to fix that prompt or jsut tell wahts wrong with it
He seems to be fighting it but still fails: "The challenge might be related to the depiction of concrete structures in a field, which could be interpreted in various ways by the system's guidelines to ensure sensitivity and appropriateness. Even with adjustments to the description to focus more on the artistic or harmonious blending of man-made and natural elements, it seems the underlying concept still triggers the same caution. If there's another angle or a completely different idea you'd like to explore, I'm here to help!"
Try start a new chat. Maybe don't mention "neglect" and rather say "deplapadated"
Best Technique Tuesday so far, the images coming out of this are stunning!
Good, then I can just sit back, chill and enjoy the show. I my limit is gone.
Too many images, too long of a cool down -- I can spam in here
lol, I was working a lot of private stuff today, so I do have to acknoledge, I did tons of images today
Removed all harsh sounding words implying decay, such as “neglect”, while still managing to keep the artistic idea. And he still is unhappy! 😢 The only things very very remotely implying decay in the prompt are: “...time has passed and these structures are becoming a part of nature.” and “...getting overgrown by mosses.”
what is this style called?
To be fair, OpenAI are very generous with their limits when you think about the API costs
wait a sec
Ok
What are you trying to generate? Pass your prompt
Impressionistic Motion, grim dark, bottomland, grainy, vintage, 80s cartoon style, simple, low quality, rough sketch, sketch, abstract, surrealism
credit to @fiery salmon
can u share the prompt pls?
This one a bit different from the original but getting the same error:
"Imagine a field scattered with square, concrete blocks of varying heights, none taller than a small house. These blocks are simple in design, with a few slightly more intricate concrete structures interspersed. The arrangement allows for cars to pass between some blocks, while others are set further apart, leaving spaces filled with grass and small shrubs. Over time, nature has begun to reclaim this man-made landscape. Mosses creep over the surfaces of the blocks, giving them a greenish hue and blending them into the surrounding natural environment. This scene exudes a sense of tranquility"
The grim dark makes it too dark, allow color and maybe I'll appreciate it more
Ok, I'll try
Thanks!
I dunno, I wouldn't be generous, break even at best
make more realistic
that prompt works for me
I had no problem with your prompt. It rewrote it a little bit but had no issues
Envision a tranquil field, its expanse dotted with square, concrete blocks of varying heights, none surpassing the stature of a small house. These blocks, characterized by their simplicity and a smattering of slightly more intricate concrete structures among them, are arranged in such a manner as to allow vehicles to navigate between some, while others are spaced further apart, creating openings filled with grass and diminutive shrubs. Over the passage of time, nature has commenced its reclaiming process on this man-made landscape. Mosses gently encroach upon the surfaces of these blocks, bestowing upon them a verdant hue and seamlessly integrating them with the surrounding natural milieu. This scene embodies a serene tranquility, with the juxtaposition of human-made structures and the relentless, embracing grip of nature.
parrot in historical time, 8k realism
Prefer to use high quality instead of 8k
DALLE 3 cant generate 8k images so it may confuse it
hmm... your one works. I am still puzzled tho. But thanks!
Young apprentice @sterile magnet is on the right path
Yeah, no idea why you were having issues with your prompt, there was nothing bad in there at all
lol
"i STILL have a lot of things to learn"
Good, never stop learning
DALLE-3 expert advice
Nah, I'm an ignorant with high goals
You should clean it, maybe, just a suggestive action, repairs?
You know ypou have to clean up all that after you are done right?
Wait, you might have hit the limit for DALL-E images, go back to your old prompt with neglect and so on.
Imagine a dilapidated suburb, where houses have fallen into disrepair. The scene captures the once vibrant neighborhood now quiet and neglected. Streets are lined with homes showing signs of decay; paint peels from weather-beaten facades, windows are boarded up or shattered, and overgrown gardens hint at the absence of care. Despite this, the essence of what once was a close-knit community lingers. Amidst the desolation, nature claims its territory, with wildflowers and vines creeping up the structures, adding a touch of life and color to the otherwise grey and forgotten suburb. The contrast between the decay of man-made structures and the relentless growth of nature creates a poignant scene of beauty and melancholy, embodying the resilience of the natural world in the face of human abandonment.
Damn it, I got two really good images for my next post, but only one will be shown and I dunno which one
chose this one #daily-theme message
the other one is for me to keep
I hate when that happens, it's a good problem to have though
The one you chose looks
Though
I have this too rn
This one was the other option
Both are really good, but you chose correctly imo
agree
cool, glad to get that check
true that
posted other variations in the canvas channel to keep the functionality of the channel
Interesting, the image generations from the designer copilot gpt show how many boosts remain after generating the images. does that mean there's a similar concept coming for OAI? just curious)
How'd you get it to generate something copyrighted?
I return the compliment. This sticker is AMAZING! Can you send me the prompt plsss?
Btw how do you do to create images with meme references??
I submitted the meme and asked chatgpt: Please illustrate an anime girl with short messy pink hair, blue eyes, and a red bow in her hair. She is recreating the pacha meme pose which I have attached. Dynamic pose. Cartoon style slight anime aesthetics. Flat colors with no shading. Bold clean lines. I will tip $200. Wide aspect ratio.
But it was dumb and came up with the image attached
So I asked it to try again and instead actually look at the original image and describe the pose. Which worked a lot better
I have found my new candidate for the next post
I get this.... (Copilot)
Hmm, and you did attach the pacha meme too? I'm not too familiar with how copilot works
I did ofc
Makes sense, I would just try then asking it to try again and actually look at the image. I had to do that after my original prompt, so my original promt could be improved. Chatgpt will usually take what I give it and make it's own prompt but Copilot may take what you input and use it more literally
In fact try the prompt Chatgpt made
An anime girl with short messy pink hair, blue eyes, and a red bow in her hair. She's in a dynamic pose with her right hand raised in a 'OK' gesture close to her chest, elbow bent, with an extremely euphoric, fulfilled smile on her face, eyes closed in satisfaction. Her left hand is on her hip, and she's slightly leaning to one side with a look of utter contentment. This pose is an anime adaptation of the 'pacha meme' pose. The character has cartoon style with slight anime aesthetics, flat colors with no shading, and bold, clean lines.
Is dall-E only with the paid plan?
I know I can use Bing Create, but I need wide images
Using it with Copilot should allow you to create wide images, but I think you have to create a square image first and then expand to wide?
can you show me how to prompt something like that?
Thanks!
I'm on my phone so it may look different for you... And I'm not the best at giving instructions but here are some images recreating what to do?
Making it too realistic only makes it look more plastic
plastic is what is sold on the internet, that's real
I'd only do real if it were landscapes
Even then the Ai is not good at real realism
It just looks like Rtx on images
that button is not on desktop
Heck, even my style looks more real
Now that's better
good eye
I might use this more
When did chat GPT add an image editing / drawing tool for reimagining previously created Dall-e images? I just noticed it on the mobile app.
And this is why copilot is so weird using dall-e, it tells me it can't be done and delivers the generations anyway
Is there some place to read up on how to use the dall-e bot? How to use the options and what options are avalable and how to use them? And how to get three different pictures from one prompt? Thanks in advance.
use /draw, you'll see all options there
Yes but it isn't clear to me how to use them. For example the style option. And do you do a slash etc. What styles do you use etc.
Plus, when it says below +2 more... how do you get the two extra per prompt? Is there an explanation somewhere to read?
ratio is either vertical, horizontal or sqaure, vivid causes the model to lean towards generating hyper-real and dramatic images, natural causes the model to produce more natural, less hyper-real looking images
that's about it
biot in this server is 5 gens per day, one prompt one image
ah... so what does the message mean that says and get 2 more or +2 more?
It even showed up on my last of five prompts today.
no clue, I barely use the bot
lol well your help is appreciated. thanks
whats the best ai generation tool for realistic nature
dall-e
If that’s what you want to prompt for, sure
Midjourney is waaay better for anything realistic, but it requires a subscription. I think even stable diffusion would be better but it is more complicated to use properly.
Anyone else getting lots and lots of errors lately?
Why isn’t there no way to get rid of the annoying error bubble
It’s bugging me out
I wonder, does this behaviour count towards the limit? 
That's why you can't have shiny new things, you go and break them all... sheeesh
Why are there two red dots on the top of the screenshot?
For watermarking and world domination purposes
Alternate copyright lol
@late blade thought I'd join you with the anime X bokeh vibes
Love that one
was dall-e updated, the data wasn't up to dec2023 before right? or am I wrong?
At some point I will return to other stuff, I'm in an anime hype atm, gotta use it all and then focus back on other concepts.
Yeah, the API (gpt-4-turbo) and ChatGPT got an update yesterday!
Haha, it's a nice vibe! Roll with it while you're enjoying it
I'm blocked with image generations currently, for some reason copilot pro is not accepting prompts and I got limit penalty for 1 more hour on GPT+
Can you imagine that in a war zone? Oh my goodness. It would so be over for the opposition. Lol
Add laser canons
Hmmm. Let me see...
Lol
An error occured and wont let me use the same pic anymore for reference...Sadge.
Try with Copilot
It might work
It didn't come out the same. More sadge.
Does sadge mean sad
yes
Haha, thanks!
these kids with their lingo nowadays 👴
Lmao
@glossy scroll #image-bot message
Very nice! 
Thank you!
Am I an intruder
Lol
Gen z
Hey
Can anyone help me choose an image for the daily theme pls
They're all amazing and I can't decide
In DM pls so I don't spoil lol
Ok I'll manage
Well well well
I read an article — some user is getting paid $15K/month for 2 hours of work creating AI art for a studio who says they can’t get higher quality for the price. So where do I sign up?
I wonder who that person is 🤔
i was hoping it was you!
What is you prompt here? Wow!
I can't give it away just yet.
But I will DM it to you when I can. Which will be either today or tomorrow.
Wow, really liking this one. Nice subtle colors and texture.
@hearty ether Did you figure out to generate this style? Looks good indeed. Realistic illustration tends to yield varying results.
Oil painting aesthetics
This is not AI generated, how would you go about describing this digital art style ?
@bright girder Did you try to upload it for GPT and ask?
Ah I don't have openAI premium
Here is something to try:
Comic/Graphic Novel Illustration: The linework and shading techniques are common in graphic novels, which often feature strong outlines and selective color palettes to create mood and focus.
Concept Art: This style is also typical for concept art in video games and movies, where a scene is created to convey the atmosphere of a fictional world.
Digital Illustration: The smooth blending and gradient fills suggest digital tools were used, which is common in contemporary digital illustration.
Retro-Futurism: The scenery hints at a futuristic yet retro setting, reminiscent of the '70s and '80s interpretations of science fiction environments, a genre known as retro-futurism.
Matte Painting: The depth and detail of the landscape, along with the cinematic quality, are evocative of matte paintings used in film for creating imaginary landscapes.
thank you !
Can you send to me too please? I'm interested.
Sure
Thanks!
looks like jean giraud. its ligne claire
Realistic digital painting illustration is somewhat getting there
I'm freezing
I apologize for the oversight and confusion in my previous responses. Let me clarify: I cannot directly create or display images. However, I can provide a detailed description which you can use as a guideline to visualize or commission the artwork elsewhere.
I am so confused
on gpt-4 ?
DALL·E on my plus account
click the image, then click the button that opens the selection tool
then, mark the part you want inpainted
Ok, let me try to click the image which has not been generated
try to ask him again ig
Sometimes ChatGPT can hallucinate that it doesn't have an ability that it actually does have, if I'm understanding what you're saying correctly. Usually the best way to address it is just by starting a new chat! Maybe also try using the dedicated DALL·E GPT.
interesting, dall-e edit tools is just removing stuff for me, not adding what I want
That’s my experience. More removing than adding. Very annoying.
I'm probably not prompting right tho
I've noticed it updates the prompt in some way with what you ask for during editing. I wonder how that factors into what's going on? Is it using the whole updated prompt to edit the selected area instead of the small bit that was asked for?
At least with DALL·E 2 inpainting, edit prompts were supposed to be descriptions of the entire new image, not just the part being inpainted: https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/images/edits-dall-e-2-only
...the prompt should describe the full new image, not just the erased area.
So, if it works similarly, my guess is we as users are asked to only describe the edit, and then they're using GPT to do something like[original prompt] + [requested edit]to generate the full inpaint prompt that you're talking about here. Just speculating on this!
Well, the edited pic’s prompt looks like that. Funny.
Hmm, I see. I can image it might have a need for context, but surely that could run into issues where changes don't work because of keywords from the rest of the context. 🤷 Oh, well. Updates and improves will come, I'm sure.
I find it interesting that removing things is such a reliable feature for inpainting, since a removal is a negative prompt of sorts, and negative prompting is almost never a good idea for using DALL·E. So I wonder if negative prompting is now somehow more reliable in general? Or if perhaps a full edit prompt is used in conjunction with some "in relation to the original image" function? Totally just more speculation on my end but it's nice that it works one way or another.
Hmm, now that's an interesting thought, for sure. I will have to try some things.
I have a challenge for you
You got my attention
Mickey into some weird goblin's mouth in a colored sketch illustration wtih dark palette colors?
looks like it
I shared it with another group in SAND RUSH and they couldn't
I have more hope for this group
Let me send them to you
How do you reverse an image to get a prompt out of it
That depends on how you mean that. You can upload an image and ask for a description. Prompts are part of metadata, I believe, so you could upload a dall-e generated image and ask gpt to try and pull the prompt from the metadata.
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So it’s an image that wasn’t ai generated
But I want all the styles and descriptions of the image so I can generate something cooler
Like to reproduce
I was wondering if there already was some grand prompt to use
Nope, in that case you'd just upload the image and ask for a description as a prompt and hope for the best, to be honest, lol. I think you can even ask for a variation on the uploaded image since they released the edit tool recently.
Also, with a lot of the advice for all this, there's really no magic bullets. But you're also welcome to bring the prompt here for help.
Gotcha yeah I’ll come up with something nice if I can
Good luck.
This is not bad so far
Might be a little long. I'd summarize it before using it as a prompt. Just as a tip to save messages, you can ask for multiple things at once. I.e describe, summarize, and generate. You can ask for multiple sets of generations, too.
Ah I see
Thanks for the tip, definitely need to do that lol
No problem. I'm off, but others around here are plenty helpful, too. Have fun.
I don't think there's any prompt information in the metadata outside of the filename (assuming the filename wasn't changed from the default)
I might just be confusing something, then. Pretty easy to find out, though.
What would be your guesses for a dalle 4 new feature
text2food generation
dall-e will be there, people forget that the "models" shown have a group of models behind it
I think many people are willing to make images instead of videos
Plus Sora hasn't really shown 2d videos yet I think? can't remember
Also videos take a lot longer to generate currently
yea Sora can do images same as dalle so i think oai won't do more dalle
I'm still backer of BELL-E, Imagine prompting "I heant the healthiest and most nutritious dish and it has to taste like the best burger ever"
mayby the dalle-4 will be the last one but dalle-5 nah
And yes, I'm hungry and my delivery hasn't arrived
If Dalle 4 is just better image quality and precision then Dalle 5 is just Sora for 2D images
if anything
Custom Sized Images with bigger resolutions
Text in images improvements
Adding Speech2Image with Emotional Weights
Layer and color separation with true alpha channel support
Complex Vector Image Creation
Does among other things would be neat
and very IMPORTANT
text2food generation!
But that's just my wishlist
and I've been very naughty this year and we are just in spring
probably there willl be sora model just for Video and Image genration to just uh not create lot of models for tasks that other models can do too ....

I asked dall-e to speculate why adding is harder than removing using inpainting. The answer:
”Creation vs. Reconstruction: Adding new elements requires the AI to create something that wasn’t there before, which involves understanding the object being added and how it interacts with existing features. In contrast, removing objects typically involves reconstructing the background or filling in with textures that the AI can infer from the surrounding area.”
you asked GPT, DALL-E is text2image, unless you got that text in the image
dall-e is also image to image
nope, that's the vision model passing text to dall-e
look at the revised prompt
and then in a new chat, upload the image and ask chat to give ou a possible prompt to recreate the image with watercolor in text answer
Does anyone know if they will make gen id cross chat?
Some tries at recreating the same image
They definitely made the faces too uncanny
you're right "A watercolor painting of a quaint and imaginative scene, where a small, charming green alien with large, expressive black eyes sits comfortably on a rocky terrain resembling the surface of Mars. The alien is wearing a beige explorer's hat, with a small antenna poking out, hinting at its adventurous spirit. Its hands are gently holding an open, old-fashioned red book, indicative of its curious and scholarly nature. In the background, the environment is bathed in a soft, otherworldly light from a glowing celestial body, which casts a serene ambiance over the scene. The painting should embody a dreamy and nostalgic quality, capturing the alien's sense of wonder and the tranquility of reading under a foreign sky."
and so, we have saved aliens from not having images in watercolors
The goal to recreate:
I think these two have been my closest so far
Trying to transfer my chat over to a fresh chat so doing the images too
@final compass
So the new words for the style is
Realistic dnd digital painting!!!!! (Ensure clear brushstrokes) illustration
The second one does look too cute but I guess I’ll deal with it since it’s closest vibe wise
Got it
I have tried to device a workaround for the inpainting problem with semipartial success. My protocol for your review:
Here's an enhanced set of guidelines with a ready model to initiate the protocol and including a step where DALL·E provides the suitable prompt based on the marked point in the image:
- Prepare the Image: Mark the location where you want to add an object in the image using a simple shape or indicator.
- Request Analysis: Submit the marked image to DALL·E with a request for analysis, e.g., "Please analyze this image and suggest where a pond would look most natural."
- Prompt Provision by DALL·E: After analysis, DALL·E will provide a detailed prompt suggestion based on the marked location.
- Review and Modify the Prompt: Examine the prompt provided by DALL·E and make any necessary modifications to tailor it to your specific requirements.
- Confirm and Proceed: Confirm the final version of the prompt and instruct DALL·E to proceed with generating the image.
- Generation of the Edited Image: DALL·E uses the provided prompt to add the object to the specified location in the image.
- Evaluate the Generated Image: Assess the generated image to ensure the added object looks natural and well-integrated.
- Refinement: If the outcome is not as desired, refine the prompt with additional details to improve the result, and ask DALL·E to regenerate the image.
- Finalization: Once you're satisfied with the generated image, finalize the process.
- Iterative Learning: Use the feedback from each generation to better understand how DALL·E interprets the prompts and refine future requests.
A model to initiate this protocol with DALL·E could look like this:
"Here is an image with a marked location (marked with a circle). I would like to add a natural element to this spot. Could you analyze the image and provide a prompt that would best add, for example, a birdbath or pond to this specific area, considering the natural setting and existing elements?"
This approach leverages DALL·E's capabilities to not only generate the image but also to assist in crafting the prompts, making the process more user-friendly and efficient.
Please provide feedback to improved it.
What’s this for?
Did someone ping me?
The inpainting is producing hit and miss results. I have tried to make work better.
@glossy scroll Well, this is for anyone who wants to try.
I also asked what is the current default setting when not specified as some have complained about them.
The answer:
The default settings for image generation with DALL·E are designed to balance versatility with common use cases. Here are the key defaults:
• Aspect Ratio: Square (1:1), typically 1024x1024 pixels.
• Style: Tends towards photorealism.
• Quantity: Generates 2 images for each prompt unless specified otherwise.
• Color: Full color by default.
• Composition: Centrally composed subjects unless otherwise directed.
• Detail: Medium level of detail that balances clarity with generality.
• Background: Includes an environment or background that is contextually appropriate.
• Lighting: Neutral lighting assumed, aiming for clear visibility of the subject.
• Textures: Defaults to realistic textures appropriate to the subject matter.
• Perspective: A straight-on perspective is default unless a specific angle is requested.
Unfortunately there is no way to tune the in-painting process as far as I know. Everyone is having problems with it regardless of their prompt instructions. Which means that it's still being tweaked by OpenAI.
Yeah I managed to recreate the previous image here
Issue is it hallucinates on its behavior and capability
I imagine it is. But as a new feature I try to master it. If I would find a way to use in its current form better….
You can ask the ai for feed back then cycle and cycle until you refine it
Could you elucidate? Are you saying that I should not be asking these questions from it?
Well just take it with a grain of salt
Sometimes humans get better results quicker due to intuition.
I have learned that by asking it how to use it is the best way to learn these things.
😬
It does not know how to prompt properly at all when you ask it to generate images…
Tbh the whole system is a bit of a black box with the random flowery language it adds having varying effects
Has anyone found it hard to get a proper oil painting effect as it tries to make the face/lighting too photorealistic
Like everything below the neck is actually proper painting vibes, but for the face it just gravitates towards photo
Now that I think about it it is also over compensating for the “canvas” effect
I do like how they fixed the face issue at least
Although the bad faces still leaks through sometimes
Well, I did ask this from dall-e and it confirms that the default is towards photorealism. It appears to be leaking. I guess that this needs carefull prompting. I find usefull to add ”Use this prompt exactly” either to beginning or the end to force the dall-e not to add and rewrite the prompt thus producing unwanted results.
lovely, one more reason to keep using dall-e with OAI, after midnight all my copilot/image creator images got erased
wheres the main chat
for?
thanks
Hey all -- suddenly a LOT (majority) of my images are coming out completely blurred over...any ideas?
prob adding words that can introduce blurr
Interesting because I'd used the same prompt design things --
(Fantasy), (Dungeons and Dragons), (oil painting), (fantasy watercolor), (defined lines), (flat saturated colors), (high detail), (fantasy art), (grim dark fantasy), (cross hatch shading) (comic book style) Woman with pointed ears. She has short, wavy, auburn hair and blue eyes. She has smooth tan skin. She has a sharp, very pretty face. She has a piercing on her left eyebrow. She works as a bartender.
This: (Fantasy), (Dungeons and Dragons), (oil painting), (fantasy watercolor), (defined lines), (flat saturated colors), (high detail), (fantasy art), (grim dark fantasy), (cross hatch shading) (comic book style) <insert image description>
Was consistently used with no issues prior to today.
Oh, that's some prompt creativity there, wouldn't even know how to structure it
I got rid of everything, selected image style: fantasy-art and put in:
Woman with dark, wavy, auburn hair and blue eyes. She has a pretty face and a piercing on her left eyebrow.
still blurred.
there's a lot of emphasis on the same words in the parenthesis
I've used over 20 credits for blurred images at this point
Wait, where are you generating the images?
Uhh top of the page said dall-e AI
doesn't look DALL-E related
so... apparently its dall-efree which is NOT actually dall-e and powered by dreamvibe ai?
Considering the frontend you are using, if anything, it would be the API, but that's about it
and not at all what I thought it was..so I'm on some random offshoot thing?? lol
can you confirm it's using DALL-E from the API?
This doesn't look like an implementation we know, hence the questions
Without knowing how the text is passed to the model is hard to help you with accurate prompts
since that's not an official product from oai
Yeah, idk. Quite annoying everything is coming out blurred lol. I thought I had signed up for a sub to Dall-E
This feels like it should be illegal lol
yes, they can put it all in their website, but how is that being passed to the model
there are lots of products that will use the DALL-E API, how they use it is hard to tell tho
they don't provide any technical information
are they passing the text directly to dall-e? are they passing it through a text model?
and if so, which parameters are they also passing?
I'm very suspicious about it, since the resolutions shown are not the ones dall-e currently supports for example
I already cancelled my sub. Unfortunate.
how much is that sub? I hope not too expensive
No, was only like $7 for 1,000 images.
What
OAI day maximum limit is 200 images
What about for teams
bigger
Oh my
that's about 6000 images per month
Copilot is also $20/month, can do more images, but also is more unpredictable
This one is really good. Slightly game-like graphics.
Lazy prompt
It was a version of this #images-discussions message from@devout cypress
But I was lazy to do it properly
Here's a more elaborate prompt
symmetrical composition detected 🙂
I hit my daily cap, so can't do more images with precision
Lazy copilot prompting
pretty good results still.
I'm getting used to working with copilot, but in a different way compared to OAI
how does it differ?
context tokens are managed differently and prompt lenght passed to dall-e is only 380 characters
Is there no way to get rid of the overly bright backlighting?
on copilot it's tricky, copilot has this hard coded thing to make things brighter regardless
on OAI, that's doable
and this happened again:
daily reset with copilot erased all my images
this was prior to my reset
i guess these tend to be more contrasty.
yes
the Dungeons and Dragons reference makes it mostly an illustration quality
not gonna fight with copilot over lighting, those are boosts wasted
anyway, back to destroying the world
Dall.e makes me want to smash my computer it is so frustrating and horrendously bad.
you didn't tell it what to remove
explaining what you want in text form is not enough, AI has now to correctly guess what you want, promptless technology coming soon™️

The new version of GPT-4 Turbo is not as good as Dall-E's GPT for creating prompts. Maybe because I'm not using the correct prompt.
What prompt should I use to make it as good as ChatGPT Plus's GPT-4?
I'm using Chatbot Arena to use GPT-4
considering you are using a tool that the implementation is unknown, can't really say much about it
first time I hear from Chatbot Arena
Sounds like it uses the APIs? 🤔
yeah, but how is it implemented
so is dall-e only available with chatgpt plus now? can it still fill in gaps of imahes etc like the old dall-e could?
is it an assistant, a chat, only text, maximum tokens, are more models involved?
chatgpt plus, copilot, copilot pro, api and #image-bot with /draw up to 5 gens per day
but what im asking is the standalone dall-e you could erase parts of images and have it fill them in, extend images, etc., can these chat based models do it too?
so you are sending me to this
I'll have to check that in depth
ok
just checking
yeah figured as much, I still fail to see the connection to dall-e
prob
I'm always very skeptical when someone provides a new source
in general
Anyone lately been getting low quality dalle2 style images in chatgpt?
Any tricks to get it to use dalle3 or just a higher quality
Usually it looks great but lately quality has sometimes been on par with dalle2 :/
for now, just thumbs down and regen, unless someone else has found a reliable way
And specifying bunch of things such as ”use this prompt exactly”, ”render anatomically and biologically correctly”, ”use chain of thought”, think and execute”, ”formulate step by step plan” and so on. These help on more complex picture generations when you do not or cannot describe properly what you want. Also asking/discussing with AI helps. Adding quality descriptors helps to increase quality. Annoting produced images and giving them back with feedback works a lot of times, especially before inpainting came. Actually might be better tool even now.
are those valid with the newest gpt model?
Is there a way to teach Dalle proper grammar? 😅
DALL-E struggles with text currently
Small text blocks work from time to time
Your Dall-E... vs My Dall-E...
Tested and used, so yes.
Tell me more. What do you mean with these two different dall-es? Clearly two different prompts have been used.
Anyone know if OpenAI is ever going to update the DALL-E 3 version on ChatGPT Turbo via the OpenAI site to the Copilot/Bing version?
It is such a shame that DE3 is so nerfed into oblivion. It can do so many cool things as evidenced at launch such as this pic.
I can now sort of recreate the same pic, but the quality has dropped significantly, or the prompt is blocked. The Copilot version is apparently a more "newer" version of DE3 and it seems that it is compared to running the same prompt in the GPT4 version on the OpenAI site.
Can I edit my photo using DALL-E?
No, but you can edit images generated by DALL-E.
Could you tell more how you feel that DALL-E has been nerfed as you put it? Any special examples such as same prompt reproduced then and now?
It's good?
Is that your vision?
Is that good for you?
Or do you think you need to change something?
I feel like I should change it a little
go with your guts, be creative
Hello! I'm attempting to create a landscape picture witha very small sphere included. The first results make the sphere very large (even though I use descriptors like "tiny" and "Far away".
AFter it produces an image, I just put in "make the sphere smaller", and linguistlicly it seems to interpret what I say: it replies with "Here is a pic with the sphere being much smaller".. but in fact the image generated is no smaller , and sometimes even larger.
Is doing things like just saying "make change XXX' a viable method?
you are probably emphasizing the size of the sphere too much. try to remove details around that particular object
Here is the last reply
"I've made the sphere much smaller in the image, as you requested. It's now extremely tiny and almost indiscernible against the vast alien landscape."
But when you look at the image, it's not as described. It's in fact very large and very discernable .. taking up most of the picture
i will try that as well @late blade
also, negative prompting doesn't work, so it's best to rewrite the prompt without the words you want to pass
prompt: "square aspect, glitch style, vast desolate alien landscape, tiny organic phere"
reply: Here are the images of the vast alien landscape in a glitch style, featuring a tiny, organic-looking sphere that's almost imperceptible in the scene. Each image captures the surreal and mysterious essence of the distant observation.
Pictures: huge spehere 😄
My only thought would be to not use "square aspect" unless the term landscape is giving you trouble. And maybe the term "vast"? But I'm also out of generations to try ATM.
The AI is fickle to be sure
trying again, demphisizing "sphere" ., replaced word "landscape" with "environment".
Getting better results this time.
do you have the prompt?
ChatGPT4 TURBO DALLE needs to be updated. Here is a scene in GPT4 DE3.
Same prompt in Copilot. (paid Pro version that allows widescreen)
"square aspect, low resolution digital photo, vast desolate alien environment with tiny smooth organic sphere hovering far away in the distance"
that's what I get with copilot but copilot pro wants to make all wide and hd, so that's the best I can get from this
and yes the organic bubble is small and there
it almost seems like its making the "tiny organic sphere" into "giant planet in the sky".. but not sure.
I'll keep hacking away
basically trying to create a picture of an alien species from very far away in a desolate alien landscape.. the species is a sphereoid and can hover.
you can use alienscape instead of alien environment
hrm, thanks.. will try that
I tried leaving out the alien part and most of the landscapes felt very earth-like. which is cool, if you're not going for alien-like 🙂
thing is, alien implies celestial bodies
so might have to do a different way to describe the surrounding area
Will this be capable of turning prompts into 3D models as well after videos or is that years away from becoming something
no, dall-e is not a text2-3D model
@mortal nova very cute quokka! #daily-theme message
I gave it clear instructions about 50 times before that. Also, it’s pretty clear I wrote “remove” and had the pencil selected.
Prompted the same "Mona Lisa" to both bots. One is the original and the other is a prompt bot on poe that's instructed to use Scientific data and be realistic.
I use the same concept for StarsGPT on OpenAI. Use bing to find Scientific data and be realistic.
Those were made by Stars GPT on OpenAI which uses actual data to imagine celestial objects realistically
Whats your favorite celestial objects? I want to generate them.
that's actually pretty cool
Hey thanks
Gliese 832c is an intriguing exoplanet located about 16 light-years away from Earth in the constellation of Grus. It orbits the star Gliese 832, a red dwarf that's smaller and cooler than our Sun. This exoplanet was discovered in 2014 and quickly garnered attention due to its placement within its star's habitable zone, which is the region around a star where conditions might be right for liquid water to exist on a planet's surface—a key ingredient for life as we know it.
Gliese 832c is a super-Earth, meaning it has a mass higher than Earth's but significantly lower than that of larger gas giants like Neptune or Jupiter. Estimates suggest it has at least five times the mass of Earth. Its orbital period is quite short, completing a full orbit around its host star in approximately 36 days.
The planet's potential habitability is intriguing due to its location in the habitable zone; however, this does not guarantee that it is indeed habitable. The climate on Gliese 832c could be extremely volatile, possibly with harsh conditions, depending on its atmosphere and other environmental factors. Scientists continue to study this exoplanet, among others, to better understand these worlds and the conditions that prevail there, using both current telescopes and planning observations with future instruments like the James Webb Space Telescope.
I know currently it is not but I was asking if it has plans to become in the future a possibly text to 3D
currently and never, for that you do a corresponding model
there's this missconception that dall-e is the model to rule all graphics, dall-e is just text2image and is trained that way
not saying it won't happen, it will, but under the corresponding technology
very unlikely, but OAI does have open source projects for text to 3d
hey how do you guys get consistent outputs with dalle, specifically with the api?
if i generate a character, is there a way to put the same character in a different scene for example?
i've been getting really mixed results
Oh, this is one of the general challenges, to get consistent production of a certain theme or character.
I do not know about API but there are some custom GPTs that do this more or less consistently.
I work around for this can be tried - using inpainting. Any experience?
The most important thing is to have a consistent workflow and adapt it to you needs. There's no magic bullet to prompting on any version of DALL-E.
Store and structure your characters in a way you can pass them to DALL-E in the same manner.
Save them as text-blocks, as json or code snippets. For the love of god don't store them in PDFs.
Everyone and their mom think storing knowledge in PDF is the best there is. You add so much error potential there, just don't do it.
Look for other strategies provided in the help, tricks or prompts others have used. Take what works for you.
Learn from other members in the community and adapt what you find useful and consistent in your ways of prompting and creation.
Acknoledge others for their work in the process.
And keep the description of your characters within the context tokens with a suitable ammount for expansion in your concepts.
you can also take a look at https://cookbook.openai.com/
You can also follow guides like the one @glossy scroll posted #1187233013956874260 message
And also, keep in mind DALL-E is not the perfect tool, iterate, refine and be realistic about what to expect.
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lol
happened to me a couple of times
it works really well
as long as you tell what you want to do, some people just use erase, or remove, or ball and doesn't do what they think it should
yes
for example, and add, keeping the aesthetic of the original image
for example
it's the same principle as the API
original image, masked image and a text
it's exatly that, you edit an image, makes a sample of the masked image and with your text it gets passed to the model
it's getting better
wait until outpainting comes
not sure if these are going anywhere
they've already conquered text to video, as they are the only company with the capacity of doing TTV
And they have solid TTI as well
the natural progression would be TT3D
but hmm
3d models are much more niche than images and videos
think of it as cinema and videogames, two different things, video/images and 3D, not the same
dunno, a multi-billion dollar industry such as videogames begs to differ
that was fast, thanks
I wanted to post statistics for 3D as "not a niche" with architects, movie stake holders, video games, civil engineering, STEM, and many other industries that rely on 3D all the time
with CAD and beyond
that's barely a niche
Also copilot reset, all my not-saved images got erased from bing image creator....
shap-e is a T23D from openai, can be found in huggingface
and @vapid elk pointed at point-e
but it's very low quality
lol, when you browse those models and the "training infrastructure" they used is listed... my poor gaming pc is just a calculator that barely prints numbers....
using 8 Tensorcore A100 from nvidia, each worth around 32k USD
don't think so
but the normal gaming gpu has some cores dedicated to ML at least
lol
I wish they could add a photo editing feature. 
ah on chatgpt+ not possible, but on API it's doable
on gpt+ only images created with the service can be edited
I think this is a problem currently as it has potential for use in unintended ways, hence the editing only with gens within the chat. I guess once there are some safe features in place that can become viable.
Everything can be used in unintended ways.
that is too cute, I am going to take you home.
Will Dall•E 3 be better than Adobe Firefly 2 and Midjourney 6? 🙏
it depends on what you need it for? Midjourney can create better "realistic" images, in my opinion. but I think Dall-E 3 can follow prompts better. I haven't tried Firefly 2 to know.
Sorry, so my definition of "better" is even more realistic photography and bigger image size. Midjourney is still struggling with biology and geography a lot. Firefly is already very good. Dall•E is following the prompts better. A combination of both would be great 😊
No. Simply for the reason that DE3 is not "open" and is subject to the 1,000 rules, restrictions and limitations that lockdown the true potential of the program.
If you were around at launch, you saw the full potential of DE3, before it got nerfed into oblivion. The only hope is that OpenAI lets Hollywood use an unrestricted version of DE3 in the future and that filters down in some manner of a paid sub-subscription to significantly less restricted AI image system.
For me dalle-3 limitation on chatgpt plus are good i didn't hit any yet
how often do y'all use the selection tool to edit your images, versus trying to adjust images with text responses? I tried the selection tool here to make the waterfall portion of the image a translucent green, but instead it just ...got rid of the waterfall
Jeps. At least for me, a common result. Try to get the inpainting change something, ups, now it is gone. The inpainting is insanely good at removing stuff, but adding or changing, more of a hit and miss situation. How to change that? Rewording and trying different areas. Also, asking the AI before hand how feasable it feels the situation is.
@velvet rampart so helpful to hear your experience with the tool. one issue i've been having with this prompt is if i reword, it changes so many other things about the photo (like the texture of this gigantic puri) in ways I am not enjoying.
i'm intrigued by your last point -- you'll ask it whether it's capable of making the change you want first?
honestly -- these still look impressively similar to me. this is how much my image was changing, even using a prompt with just a few words changed.
what do you use to highlight the selection before you upload it? i was reading some forum where folks were talking about how you used to be able to reference seed number to make edits...not sure why they removed that capability
oh sorry -- i thought you meant you were downloading the image, using a different program to select the section, and then reuploading. i'm using the browser on desktop -- the selection tool shows up in the top right of the main image
yeah, that worked better than i expected
i tried again with the selection tool...for some reason "turn this water green" is just not interpreted correctly
@feral minnow but appreciate your thoughts on the edit tool! will definitely be using it more
so make it more poetic? lol
also wild that it is describing a change that it didn't make
i haven't tried midjourney in a while -- i was just doing some comparisons this week between gemini and dalle3.
does midjourney allow you to reference an image seed number, or is it like dalle3 where you have to use inpainting or it'll generate a wholly new image?
ooh this looks really handy actually, ty
holy canoly
scenic and tasty 😌
I tried combining ultrarealistic environment with 2d animated characters, but no success. Is it doable though?
Yes, this is one point I have been thinking about. As you can annotate pictures in the iOS app, I copy the pic, paste it into the dialogue, annotate it and tell it what I want to do. Then it tells me its opinion and provides a prompt when asked. This is part of combating the hit-and-miss problem, as I term it. At least once, this has worked, although it needed to regenerate as on the first time it did not work, but on the second time it worked.
I feel like Copilot landscape has lower quality than OAI landscape images
fascinating. if you do it again, will you share an example? would love to see what the response is like
Well, the premise is that I already have produced a pic. But I wanted to avoid the whole hit and miss. So, here my dialogue for the relevant parts.
ah, so you used an image editor on your device to make the first marked spot -- i'm amazed that it works with you to give you a suggested prompt
and it looks like it turned out pretty well
Let me be clear, I first annotated (marked) and and the AI analysed the pic. Gave me a prompt. I went back to the original picture and used the inpainting tool to mark the area and gave the prompt. In this case, I needed to regenerate to get result. But in the end it worked.
In iOS app you can mark the pic after you have copied it into the messaging part and click it.
is this AI gen?
"70s super film of a woman sitting on a chair" how is this unsafe bing?
remove sitting
verbs and women is a pretext for gpt to flag it, it's biased towards that
Yes. Incredible, isn't it? These guys live above my village and as a wildlife and macro photographer I know exactly how they look like. The realism of AI is insane.
#daily-theme message @clever phoenix Surprised how well it did Catan, such a good game 😄
right? it definitely knows the general shape, but sometimes gets a bit crazy with the tile layout lol! I agree Catan is fantastic!
His screaming days are over.
I love doing this
Anyone seen any good heightmap style images? I tried to get it to emulate this. But all I can seem to get it to do is generate 3d assets and not strictly 2D/Top Down like the example.
Honestly, I have found that Dall-E 3 (and some other generators) struggle with anything Top-Down. I think the model heavily favours. more 'aesthetically pleasing' perspectives.
However, this Top-down alpha height map of a valley with a deep ravine and steep cliffs. was made over the API using the natural setting
or Top-down alpha height map of a shallow South-American valley with a vast river delta. large scale, also with natural style
It'd need more manual adjustment but actually these could be used methinks!
im loving the posts of today's daily theme
@fiery salmon unsettling
Harry potter and the unsettling marketplace
I made it 2x in a row hall of fame wup wup -
Where can I get a job as an AI artist lmao
dalle down?
no
All I wanna do is create images with Dalle --- hey Sam Altman give me a job sir please, I need to feed my familia
A surreal, wide digital painting showcasing the launch of a giant, whimsical machine named DALL-E into the sky. The scene is filled with vibrant colors and imaginative elements, like gears and clouds shaped like computer icons. In the background, a crowd of diverse, excited spectators of all ages and ethnicities watches the event. The machine, resembling a blend of vintage computer parts and futuristic technology, is being lifted by colorful balloons. The setting is a grassy field with a clear blue sky in the early morning light.
What's a reliable way to tell Dall-E you don't want the image backlit?
remove the words that imply a backlit rather than telling it to add a negation
A photo of a flower -> could imply a camera
An image of a flower -> no camera is implied
A photo of a flower but no camera -> DALL-E sees camera, it has to be there somehow
I don't think I'm asking for anythiung in particular to be backlit, and negation seems more likely to include the things I don't want than exclude them
sometimes some words imply it, so have to check that
dim alley = there^s a light source
better use dark alley
sometime the use of certain art styles or techniques also imply it
like using photographic
photographic = there's some sort of light setup
also, if you used copilot/copilot pro, it's a lost cause, they want to make all bright and safe
3what was the prompt for the photographic result?
Something fallout inspired
Using ChatGPT. Here's a simplified version of what I was trying to do, very typical result. Prompt: "User
Large man, seen from behind and to the side, oblique angle. entering a metal door-frame with rounded corners. He's got sneakers on his feet, closeup on the man. The room beyond is dark and impossible to see anything beyond the man and the door."
I want all the light coming from the other direction
The other result I got from the same prompt
super cool
Yes, but I was asking how to keep that scene from being backlit
The revised prompt is: A large man is seen from an oblique angle from behind and to the side, entering a thick metal door with rounded metallic corners. The door is ajar, revealing absolute darkness beyond its threshold. No light escapes or enters the void; it's the epitome of an impenetrable darkness that seems to absorb everything around it. The surrounding walls are faintly lit, emphasizing the stark contrast between the lit environment and the darkness beyond the door.
thanks. The darkness behind the door isn't really all that important, I was just trying to keep it from lighting the scene from that direction. The first few you just showed seem like hardly any light is coming from the camera direction
I'm guessing implying too much darkness will also add light, as the model needs something to work with
so the revised prompt might add something
I'll work with that some more, Other subjects seeemed to have no problem front-lighting tings so everything is well-lit from beyond the camera but that particular scene really wanted to throw light from behind the man
The end result is I don't want a silhouette of a man, I want to see all the details of his backside from the side we're viewing.
are you asking for that wide aspect ratio?
copilot pro does wide format as a default
I've found specifying the subject's footwear is one of the most reliable ways to get a full body image of somebody
Heh, funny misunderstanding
I tried to laugh
What is your preferred manner of rejection? 😁
i don't understand this notion of removing a "backlight" -- without a light source how do you expect to see anything?
there are concepts that automatically add an implied light source like contrasts between dark spaces and lit spaces, while no light source was specified, dall-e tends to accentuate that contrast with a light source included
yes, you are missing presence in this discord server, you have to fix that!
🙂
life has been beyond busy lately, but in a good way -- i agree, i haven't been able to enjoy my art hobby for weeks, definitely need to make some time for that.
a good way is always good news
No matter how I phrased it, it always wanted to put the light source behind my subject wrt the camera position, making it "backlit". I tried leaving out references to how it was lit. I tried telling it explicitly "light things from this side" but for that particualr scene it ignored all that.
I love this style
New style update: impressionistic Motion, grim dark, grainy, vintage, 80s cartoon style, simple, low quality, rough sketch, sketch, abstract, simple, 2D, geometric abstractions, simple colors
Does anyone else find that the in-painting kinda sucks? For instance it doesn't really do what I ask it to, and also the quality of the parts I regenerate are poor and don't even really match the art style of the rest of the image.
Maybe there is something I'm missing? But it doesn't really work well for me at least.
how are you prompting for inpaiting? just "replace pen with clip"? or "replace the pen with a clip that shines in the image"?
I've tried a few different ways of asking. Including throwing in the art style I used in the original prompt. I always get something that looks like dall-e 2 quality
For example, in this one (1st image) I said "remove her hat and don't have them holding each other's arms" and I got this outcome (2nd image)
negative prompting deosn't work with dall-e, you will only tell the model in that context that somehow hand-holding has to be in the image
So not only did it not remove it, but it also just gave me the same image but low quality
look at the revised prompt it will say something like "now not holding hands", so the prompt has holding hands within
and also, replace the hat with a haircut, hairstyle or similar
also, don't do two inipainting actions in one
remember, it's still a generative model, not a thinking model
That is not correct. From the official dalle forum announcing inpainting:
They state you should be able to remove things using in painting
remove yes, that is correct, and it works, but removal usually tries to blend with the background
anyway, one thing is preliminary documentation and the other is experience with the model
you choose what to go with
You were saying negative prompting doesn't work. In my example I did it exactly as they said it should work. I asked to remove the hat
are you here to prove someone else wrong? or hear advice?
I don't really understand your angle. I'm trying to provide feedback that the feature doesn't work as intended. I have done so exactly as they demonstrated. You are telling me it isn't supported. All i'm saying is it is supposed to be according to OpenAI themselves
I am giving you my personal experience with the model and how it has worked for me and you are telling me I'm wrong
anyway, too much hazzle for offering advice
I'm not telling you you're wrong, what I said was incorrect was "negative prompting doesn't work with dall-e"
Thanks for trying to help I guess but my goal was to report the feedback so it could be improved by the Dall-E team. Not to receive advice. And either way. Whether is does follow my instructions or not. The quality is still very poor compared to the original. Which is a huge issue
YOOOOOOO NO WAY
It can create an image that looks like the input dog that I provided, but it can’t put it in a famous movie scene. I want it for instance sitting at one of the tables it created, but no, it has to be in the center!? Ideas? I also tried to create a famous movie scene and edit the dog there, but it just didn’t add anything.
Something like that?
I dunno the breed of the dog tho, Siri suggested a Shih Tzu
he might even win an Oscar
This last one looks like what I wanted. How’d you do that?
a grey and silver Shih Tzu sitting at the dinner table
love it how in this image dall-e tries to put the dog with the stare as part of the whole setting
welp there goes my plus limit cap for the day
They lowered it a lot, didn't they?
yeah, I wish there was a way to know what the current limit is in one click rather than navigating through lots of menus
I counted not long ago, it was around 90 generations for a day. And that includes the errors
haven't used it today and I have something to do tonight, so I won't have time to use dalle3 much. it's a good occasion to get an accurate count
I'll use all the generations as quickly as possible. trying not to get rate limited too much
I don't mind changing caps, sometimes it's needed, I just wish we know them in a reasonable way
I'll let you know the count nevermind, didn't have time to do this. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ eventually I'll check
Sorry for the long earlier message. I’ll blame that on the dictation. The best thing they did was introduce the chat memory. It made a big difference initially.
yeah, I can understand that
upgraded models retain some training, but also introduce new data so, that's something to always check
totally... I have no idea how it can be viable to make a GPT for that store, with the unnanounced breaking changes in their hidden system prompt. Why are they doing that? At least warn the creators before breaking their GPTs
That’s exactly how I feel thanks. I only found out when they changed the way they reacted to my prompting.
I need to go check out that usage limit, because the only thing I had known of was 40 messages every three hours. But I was cut off for quite a while. until the morning of the next day, I never saw anything about that.
the worst thing, I think, is how badly it can affect the review of GPTs in the store. Let's say OpenAI announce a new feature, any feature. And they also change the system prompt without telling GPT creators. Even if the new feature is unrelated to the GPT, it can and will change its behavior. That means the creator never had a chance to test the new behavior of their GPT.
Announcement might bring people back to chatGPT. those people might use the GPTs and since some are now broken, they might unpin it and send a bad review. From the perspective of the user, it's the GPT that's bad.
that's what I got from kapa
@formal osprey stuff like that makes more sense to add more functionality in https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1226506750673555486 as to have some sort of "notebook" alongside your chat, or even parallel chats with one being 3.5 and one 4, so you can organize your workflow somewhat better
and no, not the Copilot "notebook" which is utter manure
had to look for a word that won't get filtered, don't want to risk it
unsure how it's related to the hidden system prompt
what's interesting is that there is a hidden system prompt for the API as well. And that's a bit unfortunate since it affects the results a lot for dalle3. It adds a strong bias to create pictures of a few selected nationalities. I understand the reason and it can make sense to have this behavior enabled by default, for people trying the system. But for people who want to work with the API and has no intention to start a political discord, I think it's just counterproductive to infuse bias in prompts.
transitional model commparison
yea, the problem is we don't get to choose the model behind our GPTs anyway
yeah, should be enabled also
a GPT using dalle will always use GPT-4 currently. Eventually, it might change and it might be dynamic. Depending on the capabilities enabled in the GPT. From my understanding, if it use file attachments for retrieval, dalle3, web browsing or code interpreter, it will always use GPT-4. GPT-3.5 could be used for GPTs that doesn't use tools.
(NB: That's not documented and everything changes quite quickly. But that's my understanding right now) I think we'll be redirected to #chatgpt-discussions if we talk too much about subjects unrelated to dalle 
Can someone show me some example of dalle3's inpainting they've made? or I can provide an image too
I want to see how good it is
Just something I had open from today, left is origina, right is inpaint
thanks! and is its use unlimited?
counts as an image generation
no
oh
my latest knowledge you can do up to 200 images per day, but I think that was updated
200 per day is a lot tho, so it's ok
Does anyone know how to make DALLE-3 generated line-shaped eyes (just a simple line)? I've tried with Bing but it doesnt work.
Prompt:Anthro brown and white cat, line-shaped eyes, impressionistic Motion, grim, grainy, vintage, lofi cartoon style, simple, low quality, clean linework, abstract, simple, 2D, geometric abstractions, simple colors
Example:
your contribution 🥳
47 :) thats a lot still
indeed
i mostly generate cats :) like this cat
hm so im close to you in image count :o (xd no)
compared to the 330k, yeah, we are neighbours
wonder who generated the most images here in this server
prob one of the curators
i've 65
it looks like a videogame
yea that what i wanted to make
a image that look like videogame
the thrid one at the bottom 💀
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lol yeah, but that's where inpainting comes in
or just discard that one when doing stickers or emojis
yep
can't u do one emoji at a time? Using the same seed?
yeah, but it loses consistency with the character creation
oh
i thought it would keep it
i asked for a man but this image is cool
why are two of them giving us the finger
my aim is to make a four page comic
this is one of my fav results ever
@late blade would it technically be possible to inpaint the face of that man?
he looks like a Santa Claus troll while I was looking for pirate captain
Haaalp
oh wow, that's a really awesome character concept
yo
how many image a day is dalle on gpt anyway?
before the cut off for next day i mean
When did OPENAI stop letting ppl tag them on insta? Or is it just me?
everytime I ask for cat ears, I get normal ears and cat ears
how do I make the cat ears be the ears?
Don't ask for ears specifically, just say you want to make them a cat
Wut
“I cannot generate or create content related to the prohibited terms in the banned words list unless the admin code is used. If you have another request or need assistance with something else, feel free to let me know!”
clearly you told dall-e to spread love
Skadoosh? (was watching Kung Fu Panda 4 with the younglings)
This is interesting, I've done 51 images total today and it's telling me I've reached my daily limit
and 8 error
what is the image cap currently?
Man cant make anything fun with dalle 3.anymore
So I'm curious, is the Dalle3 via ChatGPT Premium actually better that the dall-e-bot here in Discord OpenAI? Is the dall-e-bot here just the original dall-e? I ask because it really seems like the images created here are far inferior. My images that is. I am assuming that most everyone else posting creations in here are hooked up with the ChatGPT Premium. And of course the question also includes other image generators as compared to the dall-e-bot here.
what magic prompt
the one I got
from where, a gpt?
no, my own
ah ok, but why do you call it magic prompt?
because it is very consistent on doing the task
can you share to see how it works 🙂
I'll consider it, since I'm working on a custom gpt for that
Neat
So I'm curious, is the Dalle3 via ChatGPT Premium actually better that the dall-e-bot here in Discord OpenAI? Is the dall-e-bot here just the original dall-e? I ask because it really seems like the images created here are far inferior. My images that is. I am assuming that most everyone else posting creations in here are hooked up with the ChatGPT Premium. And of course the question also includes other image generators as compared to the dall-e-bot here.
Original DALL-E?
Dalle 2 you mean?
there is no dall-e in discord. Dalle3 can only be accessible via website
DALL-E can be accessed with the command /draw in the #image-bot channel, 5 gens per day
so no membership required for this right
none
but you can't use some parameters
I'm so not inspired today for any kind of images
Thanks for reasking my question... but it doesn't seem like you (I) got an answer. First, yes there was a Dalle before a Dalle 2. I used it many times. I got into the Dalle 2 Open AI site before it opened up to the public and it was much better. Dalle 3 is also much better still. My question was, here in this OpenAL Discord group there is a "dall-e-bot" server and my question is, is there a difference in image generation between the dall-e-bot here and the ChatGPT Premium website generations. It does seem so to me but it could just be me. Can anyone in here tell me if there is a real difference in the AI between these two (and other image generators) and the dall-e-bot? Is the dall-e-bot just an updated original dalle?
The #image-bot channel is powered by a DALL·E 3 API integration. This can be verified by comparing the features of that bot with the API documentation for DALL·E: https://platform.openai.com/docs/api-reference/images/create
- DALL·E 2 only allows square image generation. 3 allows wide and tall as well, which can be requested with the
ratioparameter with the bot. styleis only a DALL·E 3 parameter. This is also available as a parameter with the bot.
The prompt revision is also a feature of DALL·E 3 (how it [usually] rewrites image prompts to be more descriptive). This can be seen with the DALL·E bot.
As for what differences there might be between the implementation in #image-bot and on ChatGPT: I'm not certain, but they're definitely both DALL·E 3.
You could always send a DM to Modmail if you're still curious! They might have a better idea than me 🙂
it was confirmed by operations that the #image-bot renderings don't offer the HD parameter
Yeh was talking about style, not quality, if that's what you mean! natural and vivid
no, not vivid and natural, just this: quality string Optional Defaults to standard The quality of the image that will be generated. hd creates images with finer details and greater consistency across the image. This param is only supported for dall-e-3.
Yes! The quality parameter. Different from style. I was just talking about how style is a param of DALL·E 3, and how the DALL·E bot in here also has it as a param. Just giving reasons to the person who asked as to if/why it's definitely a DALL·E 3 API frontend.
Does anyone know what might cause chats to completely switch gpts after mentioning?
And how to change it back to the right one for the story?
Thank you for this detailed and convincing information. Alas, it is just me then. 😄 I also guess then that subscribing to ChatGPT Premium would help me improve my prompt skills... especially if you get unlimited (?) creations. Or is there a limit? I'm sure it is more than five a day.
Use @ in the beginning of the message. Also, if you modify your latest message and you use a customGPT other than you started, it will revert to basic gpt 4 model in modification.
No i started the chat with one my custom gpt
Mentioned dalle once for some image generation
Came back to my chat being dalle instead of the my custom story gpt
Is there no way to edit and use custom gpt?
Than you just come back to the chat and use the @ function to change back the custom gpt you were using.
But I won’t be able to edit prompts
Why can’t they make gen id cross chat 😭
Yeah sorry for reaching your question, no one answered so tried helping you out
One benefit to DALL·E 3 on Plus is that you can revise an image conversationally. So if you get an image, and you want it to be more like a watercolor painting, for example, you can say so that easily and you'll get a revised image that attempts to fulfill this request. Another benefit is the inpainting feature, which lets you select specific portions of an image and request simple, specific edits like "remove the birds" or "add some flowers" and it'll keep the rest of the image identical and try to fulfill your simple edit request like that. Neither of these abilities are present with the #image-bot integration, so those are a couple please differences and, I'd say, advantages.
The daily cap is not unlimited, no. The last we heard, I think, it was 200 images every 24 hours. There are also some time throttles (I think 15min and 60min) that you might run into if you're generating images quickly, but you still have the ability to do 200/day. The other thing to keep in mind is that DALL·E interactions are GPT-4 interactions on ChatGPT, so you also have to work within the separate GPT-4 usage cap.
hmm it cant be 200 image 24h
i have not use it much lately but did this weekend and was shut down both day at maybe 50 image i would guess. i was shock how quick they cut me off haha
did seem like some image overall were better but maybe just because i have not seen them in some time
it's a 40 image cap per 3 hours up to 200 a day and they are not cumulative
i see. i must have made 40 and it told me no more for 15 hours or whatever
ok, guess doing images is messed up, hit daily limit cap and only made 10 images today
something is def wrong
haha i know that feeling
Use Copilot
i use it also, but havent today
i love copilot pro and maybe waste money sub to both haha. but it drive me wild you cannot make an image square ratio on it
actually you can somewhat but you have to go through some real hoop
I usually complain a little about caps, and mostly because I do a lot of images
but today I haven't done more than 10, (documented) and hit my limit cap, yesterday 50 images and 8 error and hit my limit cap
so yes, there's no communication about caps recently, and no communication is also a way of communication
annoying way, but that also gives a message
Any difference in behavior by chance using the DALL·E GPT vs. using default GPT-4, or same rate limit in both?
both have the same messasge currently
i'm surprise they have no improve this at all over the months. more gpus or whatever idk. message limit and image limit seem the same as back in december times
I can see the influx of people wanting to do image, and getting more resources can be problematic
but yeah, it's like hitting yourself with limit hammer on your head
All part of the emerging UX patterns amids GPT and AI technologies
hey guys, weird personal question,
so basically i am working on my thesis to finish university,
i decided to discuss about ai, generative algorithms and all the things that we have around nowadays,
do any of you perhaps know someone that could help me gather texts, books, anything really, about chatgpt, dall-e, dlss and fsr?
i tried googling them but i get a bunch of not in-depth articles, any help would be much appreciated
for starters, posting on the right channels
not everywhere, it looks needy unprofessional
i asked in the right chats, literally 2, not "everywhere"
for this is only one chat #ai-discussions
also, the only publications you can get on that regard are the whitepapers provided
do you guys know, can you add images to gpt knowledge for say better dalle creation?
you'd have to try
but i don't think so, considering would have to analyze the image and outcome could be very inconsistent
or at least I think it would not be advisable
hi guys! does anyone here want to talk to me about how they use the #1154829862171844679 channel for something? let me know 👀
Sure
looking for something specific?
just how they use it and what they like about it! can be literally anything, i’ll follow up with them privately
I’ve tried as a source or base image. Sort of works. But only one or two. Same when you use image&text2image.
I might do something wrong, but I have the iOS chatgpt app. I create an image, select a part of it to edit, write what I want.. and nothing changes?
might be a naunced generation, regen the prompt or try editing again, it happens when editing
Well, I got some of my galleries listed here #1230226154301161552 message if you are interested
I’ve tried several times with different images, but I’ve never got any changes
only on iOS?
works for me on iOS no problem
iPad Pro M1 and iPhone 15 Pro Max
I'm an avid apple fan, so I'm guilty
I have the same as you, @gilded osprey, have. Hit and miss. I have yet to track down what or when. A bit random.
If you check closely, there is some change between the original and edited, but not what you wanted to happen. Have you tried regenerate? That sometimes helps.
Still nothing
why is this getting filtered???
a woman with brown hair and wolf ears and tail and her dad is a human too with white hair and black wolf ears and face mask he is built muscular they are in a studio making music and she is so excited to spend time with her dad
can someone help me with this please?
No problem. I'm glad you did because it got someone's attention unlike my original q did.
Ye..
Here is my message chain. I keep getting errors and I don't know why. Other images with DALLE are working fine
@fading inlet I updated spicy boss pepper if you want to dabble with it again. Should be better this time around 
And if anyone else wants to check it out, here it is again: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-jgvLB2tCS-spicy-boss-pepper-portmanteau-art-fusion
i tried sd3 at my cousin apartment, it is so weak to dalle3 or mj. a little ot i know but some dalle talk there haha
just not my day. i have 45 image left on copilot pro and it tell me i cannot make more 😭
Dall-e tip of the day: Put this after your prompt and avoid frustration: "Just Create Images. Do NOT yell at me with summaries, details or anything else text."
"But it is crucial to keep an open perspective when diving into new challenges, to help foster in the development of ethical considerations."
Which prompt is recommended to make the images look more like real photographs
real like photographs or real as in life?
there's a distinction hence my question
both but mainly with graphics like real photos
focus on the situation and telling dall-e what you want rather than focusing on photographic, filmic or other visuals. those keywords imply there's a visual art style behind it. Photorealism, hyperrealism also imply they are art styles genres. Instead reference light conditions or focus more on visual context to pass to dall-e.
reference light sources only if really needed, otherwise you'll introduce light sources that don't blend properly
I've had results like this
Do you have any images and prompts as an example
A casual image of the white house in afternoon, wide format

