codex-discussions

[indigo robin]

ehh i think its fine

[orchid echo]

this is NOT FINE

💀

[indigo robin]

its allabout the trigger area

i can increase the invisable trigger area

[exotic cave]

If it was, then why you need so many controls? For the fun of it?

[indigo robin]

such an easy fix

[orchid echo]

you can make it so much better..

[indigo robin]

lmfao yall dont know duce about design

[exotic cave]

Alright, you can do it :)

[orchid echo]

hokay buddy. i guess i dont know

[indigo robin]

i know i can lmfao

you dont lol \

that is horrible

mad cluttred

ugly background

[orchid echo]

lol ok buddy

you do you

[indigo robin]

cheap looking buttons

brother brother lmfaoooooo

lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

looks like the knock off fab filter

[orchid echo]

are you offended?

[proper cosmos]

omg guys I just got a week's reset again

[exotic cave]

@orchid echo leave it. Not worth it.

[orchid echo]

true

[indigo robin]

nope im fine : )

i can redesign your app for you if youd like

no jokes

[torpid trout]

sorry but when did they disable js_repl in code code base?!
I had codex dig in the source and it says that feature flag is gone (not usable anymore)

[exotic cave]

Yeah they did, i was talking about it when they did. but forgot when it was. they now have some code_something.

[torpid trout]

code_something?

https://github.com/openai/codex/releases/tag/rust-v0.132.0 zero words on deprecation of js_repl

[exotic cave]

They removed it in 0.128.0 and added code_mode.

[torpid trout]

congrats, another botched release announcement, gosh.

[torpid trout]

ok looking... but I recall that code_mode now

It was never released.

Even if announced, I have a ticket open on that actually

[exotic cave]

I don't know if they still work on code_mode, but it's a feature you need to add to your toml. But it's not the same as js_repl btw.

[torpid trout]

https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/14377

According to them it is "normal" to announce stuff that is not actual stuff.

[indigo robin]

magic @lean lark

[torpid trout]

#19410 Remove js_repl feature @fjord-oai
yeah, go figure

[exotic cave]

I was sad to see js_repl deprecated.

[torpid trout]

0.128.0
no replacement

[indigo robin]

needa a bit more tweaking visually though and it should be all set

[exotic cave]

For my node heavy development it was a nice addition.

[indigo robin]

yea gotta chill bro it might bann you for 7 days or perma ban

we dont wanna loose you broski

[torpid trout]

Worth over it

Kind of boiling here rn lol
Seriously, get a grip on those release announcements and specially... review what actually is being released
I would be ready to bet that was some smoke idea of codex itself to remove it lol

[indigo robin]

i need that random reset badly lol

[exotic cave]

You think codex is conspiring against us? o.O

[orchid echo]

i already got timed out before for saying 3 letter double you - tee - eff

[torpid trout]

yeah of course. did you not know

they conspiring in terms of giving too many resets, and now, hiding js_repl

[indigo robin]

ahhh i get it compation degrades over time , not just the code but the compaction potency itself

compaction in a new threqd reduces tokens by almost half , in a lagre thread it reduced by 10k the most

remeber cydia compactor

[exotic cave]

Really have no idea why they removed js_repl, it was really good for anything node/js etc...

[indigo robin]

cydia was so great

youd think wed have more jailbreaks with ai but apple is probably using a military grade ai

or a super computer type ting

[exotic cave]

@torpid trout It gave a persistent node backed js runtime with top level await, local imports, package imports, helper access, and reusable bindings the model could run js logic to call multiple tools, transform output, loop, filter etc... while staying inside one tool flow. (from my previous explenation about it). pretty potent stuff.

[indigo robin]

i feel like ad space in an app paywall is horrible for sales idk why people do that

[torpid trout]

yeah it is suggesting that or something like that rn, some mix between node script and using chrome headless
however, this all semms a total mess to me

[indigo robin]

wow making great progress now its looking like the triads page is complete !

wow

excited @plush harbor

new thread is finally matching the consistency of the old thread it just needed a pep talk lol

[plush plover]

You can make a yakuza page next (jk I know its a music theory app lol)

[indigo robin]

lmfaooooooo

[plush plover]

Are you gonna sell the pp?

App*

[indigo robin]

it will have a free browser version and a paid app version

[plush plover]

Neat

[indigo robin]

atleast thats my plan idk if the brower cn handle switf code

[plush plover]

I honestly dont know if it can or not

[indigo robin]

i want it to be music app of the year tbh

and honestly i think it can be

the goal is to sell it to apple for 1billion then take a 10% royalty lol

[torpid trout]

This might now be it

But, always worth it for a meme

Anyway, it added playwright mcp, seems to doodle away now with it. So, A(va)nger averted

[indigo robin]

looks like spongebobs cousin

[plush plover]

Time for me to try codex I think, I came here because I want to switch from claude

[indigo robin]

claude is duce

[torpid trout]

etihs si edualc

[indigo robin]

yup

name is whack too

sucesss!

im back to a stable build

i think lol

[plush plover]

Cant login to openai lol

[exotic cave]

Lol the little things if one look. One of them, the cup at the last panel xD

AGI is close...

[rocky fog]

can you smell the reset?

[cyan fjord]

Is there a way to get higher context window in codex? Iam a pro 5x subscriber

[bright swift]

wen

[torpid trout]

yeah... that one messed it up
But I liked the tealeaves consultation lol

[bright swift]

pretty sure its limited in codex, need api for 1m

[cyan fjord]

doesnt it allow 400k atleast? Iam capoped at 256k

256k is preatty low if you ask me

[bright swift]

i noticed this when i used pi/opencode, gpt 5.4 had 400k there while codex had 270k

i have my autocompact set to 230k and it feels like infinite context with no degradation to me

[cyan fjord]

You can use Oauth in opencode?

[bright swift]

yes

[cyan fjord]

Kinda scam if you ask me

[bright swift]

its even semi-official, although TOS still forbid it

https://developers.openai.com/community/codex-for-oss

[exotic cave]

256k is with their margin. also 400k is with the ouput/reasoning that the model have as a play field which i belive is 120k.

[unique spade]

where does TOS forbids it? have a link at hand ? curious to give it a read

[indigo robin]

Think Or Swim

would it be possible to code a program as interactable nodes that hold thier function within a container so say if i deleted one node the rest of the program wouldnt collapse ?

like leggo bricks

[lean lark]

I was just researching removal of js_repl and poo. 🙂

About poo : It's confirmed that the word is moderated but that the emoji "probably" should not be, and it was expected to work. So that will be looked at by mods.

About js_repl : It looks like that was removed, in part, because it was perceived (?) as only (?) being useful for Bazel testing. Removing js_repl resulted in removing Node from CI and a related Dockerfile dependency.
It looks like code_mode (still in development?) is replacing js_repl. It looks like they removed js_repl without introducing its replacement - generally bad form, but since it wasn't advertised as being a feature for us to plug into, it seems they were at liberty to remove it at their discretion.
While js_repl is gone, there is a node_repl/js or mcp__node_repl__js used with PlayWright - which kinda explains how they're still using PW without it - but that doesn't seem to be fully implemented either. 🙄

I'm thinking, if there is a devloper use-case for keeping js_repl in Codex, make your case in a new ticket. Otherwise stop using the undocumented (I found none) functionality. (sorry)

There's a lot of vague guessing going on there but that's what my limited research turned up, short of creating a ticket to ask about it.

And now, on to real work...

[lean lark]

Yeah but the method is dependent on the language/framework. You're using Python. Is that your target for the question?

And how is that related to Codex?

[indigo robin]

im using Codex and Xcode and Swift

[gentle harbor]

ok what is this ?? 3 min just to move 3, 15mb files

[indigo robin]

its possible your thread is congested

[lean lark]

Oh yeah, confused with another project.

[indigo robin]

when i started a new thread it was 50x faster

[gentle harbor]

i just restarted the pc with no other apps open and its a new thread

[indigo robin]

mr cadet

mmm

[lean lark]

And destroyed your life. 🤣

[indigo robin]

i wonder if you baked your file paths into an agent it would be faster

[indigo robin]

type shi lololol

its okay to cry , but its not okay to not look in the mirror an call your self a Bish after

lol and thats what i did i man'd up and powerd through it

[lean lark]

0.133 just dropped

[indigo robin]

codex update ?

[lean lark]

Goals are now enabled by default

[indigo robin]

thats crazy i aint get it

what are goals ?

[gentle harbor]

this is mac right

[indigo robin]

yea mac supremacy

[lean lark]

Something else to mess up your life, PIC.

[indigo robin]

ah shoot lol

[lean lark]

https://developers.openai.com/codex/changelog#codex-2026-02-02-mdx

CLI, sorry...

[indigo robin]

crazy to think my project had 6435 lines of code

[native hull]

have they fixed usage consumption ? Im on plus and i burned through ~90% in around 1h. Definitely wasnt like this last week. Maybe im hallucinating

[indigo robin]

humans are amazing

[unborn thunder]

Mobile app says to follow instructions on desktop but nothing appeared there yet

[lean lark]

I don't see anything about the token consumption
https://github.com/openai/codex/releases/tag/rust-v0.133.0

[indigo robin]

my app is looking lovely

and it follow all the apple design principles

masterpiece

[bright swift]

its murky like all TOS, but i would say it falls under the forbidding automatic/programmatic access because its third party software

so if they want to enforce it, the TOS allows it. so far they havent because its better marketing

[indigo robin]

aw hell nah

[acoustic fiber]

I know it might sound weird, but... Is there a way to make codex talk to chatgpt using my Pro subscription?

[bright swift]

yes steipete/oracle

or browser use in the app

[gentle harbor]

upgrade to pro, plus has almost nothing

[indigo robin]

wym ?

[acoustic fiber]

codex told me it's against the TOS to scrape data out of ChatGPT

[bright swift]

yes it is

[indigo robin]

honestly i kinda like the limits it makes to live your life and think of new ideas

[bright swift]

just zip your repo, upload it and prompt pro manually

it can even return a git patch

[unique spade]

even if it wouldn t be they could add it any time when they would want to enforce it 🙂

[bright swift]

yea sure. i mean right now they are relaxed about all this, i hope it stays this way

[meager bobcat]

So what was added? I just got a windows app update

[bright swift]

one of my accounts got a "suspicious activity" warning (i guess because of oracle cli use), so it seems they are starting to be more strict

[short linden]

No, the usage still same with real API token usage. so it's not change, it's just calculate by real token usage.

But if you compare with API token cost, it's cheap than API.

Example I paid $200 plan. If I switch to API, it's might cost $1600 while $200 plan cover for this price.

[indigo robin]

i noticed too if you hit your limit mid task it will complete tht tasl first

[lean lark]

yeah, what @bright swift said was non-sequiter and unsupported. The codex-for-oss quote that he provided isn't related to TOS, and he conveniently left out the rest of the sentence:

[indigo robin]

maybe im wrong or lucky

isnt open claw the ai social media

[bright swift]

yes the oss program supports oss work

two different parts of a sentence

learn to read

[lean lark]

OK, so I'd like to read where the TOS is contradictory.

... we'll wait.

[indigo robin]

bro got ai induced rage lol

[native hull]

Is there a way to check specifically what eats up the token usage? Like a specific prompt, or the compounding of AI needing to re read everything said earlier to maintain context etc ?

[bright swift]

its pretty clear

[gentle harbor]

a new codex update just came out, but is it even trust worthy

[indigo robin]

still not for mac though

[lean lark]

link?

[bright swift]

are you serious or trolling me?

think i need a cooldown from this channel lol

https://openai.com/policies/terms-of-use/

[indigo robin]

ai induced rage and discord induced stress you gotta chill bro

[lean lark]

gndk - we're (the rest of us) are adults that can discuss business issues without drama. cool down bud...

[bright swift]

all i'm saying is that the TOS are typical broad legalese

vs a tweet by altman or whatever

[indigo robin]

boutta go shower and eat se yall in 3 hours when my limit is up

[lean lark]

OK, I'm trying to reconcile what you're saying with the text.
BTW, there's an EU-specific version of that: https://openai.com/policies/eu-terms-of-use/

[unique spade]

this is about extracting data....

it refers specifically to trying to mine the model for it s training

not about you using codex programatically

[bright swift]

it literally says output bro

[short linden]

No... Only see the "compact" context when go near 100%, so 256k context can costly more than you think. If you found suddenly context go 100% in short time... You should re-thinking why consume that much.

[bright swift]

output is the llm response

you extract it programmatically by using a third party tool (pi/opencode)

its crystal clear

[unique spade]

ok, i don t care enough to debate

[bright swift]

anyway back to work 🙂

[unique spade]

same, have fun

[gentle harbor]

so this update did nothing 😄 im about to uninstall it and reinstall

[native hull]

Is there a way to fully disable its compacting? Or is this not possible. This would mean that context will probably have to go too. Is that possible also ?

[indigo robin]

It’s crazy codex solved stress induced baldness with the help of Ai , now we’re getting discord induced baldness

Thermodynamics is real

😂🤣.

[unique spade]

what s the issue?

[indigo robin]

We didn’t solve a problem we merely shifted it

[unique spade]

earlier today when i updated the one they release yeday i got that bug with the broken db on windows. had to ask codex to fix it by giving it the link of the issue from cli

[gentle harbor]

after the last update my codex started being much slower and kept freezing after clicking out then back into it

[indigo robin]

You could try reinstalling the whole app but idk if that removes your thread and tokens

Is there a way to store tokens ? And restore a thread

[short linden]

No, compact is part of codex and it's require it.
Every compact require to re-send some detail data from the previously again and might take around 30k-40k.

[lean lark]

@bright swift
From the TOS:

What you cannot do. You may not use our Services for any illegal, harmful, or abusive activity. For example, you may not:
... Automatically or programmatically extract data or Output (defined below). ...
... Interfere with or disrupt our Services, including circumvent any rate limits or restrictions ...
Your content. You may provide input to the Services (“Input”), and receive output from the Services based on the Input (“Output”). Input and Output are collectively “Content.”

Summary:

• "Output" is defined as responses that come from OpenAI tools.
• "Automatically or programmatically extract data or Output" means we are not allowed to scrape results from products like ChatGPT, or code into their pages, like for injecting prompts and extracting responses for the purpose of reselling services.
• There is ambiguity in the exact terms, but in-context they're talking about "You may not use our Services for any illegal, harmful, or abusive activity". This is not unusual in legal documents or common human conversations.
• These terms do not apply to legal activity. That one line should not have to read, again, "for unlawful activity".
• CONTEXT MATTERS!

[native hull]

Im not quite sure how it fully works though. Lets say I have done 10 total compactions. Would the first information before its 1st compaction have been compacted 9 extra times since our total is 10? That would essentially just make it lost information after that many compacts. Hopefully makes sense.

[lean lark]

I documented this yesteday, just a sec...

#codex-discussions message

[indigo robin]

@lean lark

[lean lark]

"store tokens"? no.
"restore a thread"?

[indigo robin]

Maybe ill vibe code a method

To save tokens

And restore a thread

[lean lark]

I don't understand the questions.

[indigo robin]

And make a website to share threads and tokens

[lean lark]

We can "resume" a thread programmatically.

And we can just go back to a thread easily from Task History.

[indigo robin]

I’m creating a new function for codex

[lean lark]

You can "save" tokens, as in "not spend them". But a token is not something that is stored.

[indigo robin]

A thread forum

Where you can take someone’s thread

And input it into your codex

And then resume that exact thread

[lean lark]

That's not how it works.

Every transaction in a session is the culmination of all of the applicable context. It's not just a copy/paste of transactions in-sequence.

If nothing else is a factor: After a compaction (maybe at other times) there is an encrypted block inserted into the session which contains context data. 1) you can't decrypt that, and 2) I think the key is specific to the account/environment that created it. So you can't actually rebuild a session like that.

Take a step back... What is the goal???? What is to be accomplished by such an effort?

[lean lark]

ChatGPT says it's interesting and a "real idea" ... but right above that it also said it's not possible.

[indigo robin]

Anything is possible

[young locust]

nope and not sure if the idea makes sense to download random session that could potentially do malicous stuff, eat all usage or get account banned for violations

[fringe shuttle]

what exactly does '/goal enabled by default' mean?

Like every message I send will be treated as if I used /goal?

[lean lark]

Well, you haven't provided context. Now you're saying that it's given some credibility to whatever you told it, but you haven't shared what you told it.
OK, have fun, but you still haven't provided a reason for what you're doing.
If you want shared discussion with ChatGPT, we already have it in ChatGPT. And we can share/fork a ChatGPT session.

"/goal" previously had to be enabled explicitly in config.toml.

[remote yew]

Trying to connect my ChatGPT app to the codex desktop app - missing the option on desktop for “codex mobile”. Made sure I’m up to date also

[lean lark]

Windows?

[remote yew]

Yea

[lean lark]

Not announced as supported yet.

Android > Windows

[remote yew]

🙃

So I basically can’t use my iOS codex then as I just get this screen

When I hit chat it’s the same as hitting connect

[indigo robin]

We hope codex never comes to windows

It will degrade the quality

[remote yew]

I mean the desktop app is on windows

[wet charm]

Anyone maxxing out their plan this week on the 20x lol

we gettin close

[remote yew]

It’s just the mobile connection isn’t there

[indigo robin]

Windows is Duce

[lean lark]

Yeah, mobile to Windows is not yet supported.

[remote yew]

Moving off is time consuming that I don’t have time for rn

[lean lark]

PIC - Codex App is already on Windows...

And CLI

[remote yew]

The remaining question:

is there a way for me to use the iOS app now or am I screwed here

[boreal holly]

It's actually a 1 time thing though. It consumes exactly one unit of time to move off, and that's why it's 1000% always worth doing

[remote yew]

My irl schedule doesn’t allow me the time rn point blank

[lean lark]

iPhone to MacOS, yes.

Android to MacOS, yes.

[young locust]

swipe it off in the card view and reopen, if you meant the cant cancel issue

[remote yew]

iPhone alone. Before this update I could use the app alone

[remote yew]

I have restarted my whole phone I’ll screen record

[lean lark]

Please be more specific Zenologia - iPhone to what?

[young locust]

then just reinstall as all data is server side anyways

[remote yew]

Before this update, I could use it on iOS alone and it would sync with what was on the codex website I guess using their servers instead of my pc

[lean lark]

OK, so you're saying you connected your iPhone to Codex App on Windows.
That was possible last week and only with by using a "remote-connection" option, which was unsupported and that hole was closed. So now we need to wait for any moble-to-windows connectivity.

[remote yew]

That’s not what I said

Never mind

I’ll deal with it myself

[lean lark]

FFS dude, you didn't say!

[remote yew]

Drop it. I’m done

[young locust]

i think he means he got stuck on the codex onboarding phase that some others has as an issue too

[remote yew]

Just let it go

Move on

[lean lark]

but he said it was working and didn't clarify what it was working to. It actually wasn't working except as described. So if he had it working with "something" then it's possible that it might still work for him. But if he doesn't clarify the tooling then we can't help.

[boreal holly]

Nah, Zenologia is saying they used to be able to use Cloud/Web codex, but now it wants them to use local development only

[remote yew]

Jesus Christ someone finally got it

Thought I was talking to a brick wall

[boreal holly]

Maybe need to use web browser as stopgap

[lean lark]

But the screenshot is trying to connect to desktop. It says so. Not Web. 😢

[remote yew]

Because I CANT GET TO THE WEB PORTION ANYMORE

[lean lark]

OK, sorry, I'll back up...

[remote yew]

I don’t want long explanations. Is there a fix or no? That’s all I want

Nothing more

Not a stop gap. A fix

[young locust]

and known issue is that if you abort the onboarding you get soft locked... but ill just mute since it was vague

[remote yew]

I’m gonna screen record

Just wait a minute

[lean lark]

You didn't say web, you did say "yah" to Windows, the screen says desktop, I was going on the information available. If iPhone app connects to cloud, I didn't know that. I use Android and this was only published a few days ago.

[boreal holly]

https://chatgpt.com/codex/cloud

in ios web browser, codex cloud available. In native app, i guess they removed it

[lean lark]

And I go to my browser for Codex Cloud all the time too. That's not related to the device OS, it's a web page.

[deft vale]

Did they just limit goals to 4k characters?

[lean lark]

( Another announcement of 26.519 https://developers.openai.com/codex/changelog)

[remote yew]

The video shows my email nvm. But yea I can’t get to the web portion on the app anymore

I’m just stuck on the connect to desktop BS

[candid sable]

Kirk’s dik dik 🥹

[lean lark]

It seems many of the GUI textboxes that OpenAI offers in tooling are weirdly limited far below the actual limits of the fields. I dunno if 4k is a real limit like from CLI, but obviously it is in the GUI.

[remote yew]

Does it work with Linux? I can dual boot for the time being I guess.

Annoying as hell tho

[lean lark]

Zen - just use your browser. 🫣

[remote yew]

On my phone is problematic.

TLDR my eyesight is trash and I have to use the iOS accessibility settings as it is but it doesn’t carry over to safari

[lean lark]

Ahh, got it.

[remote yew]

Like without my glasses or contacts I’m over the “legally blind” threshold

[lean lark]

My eyes go blury from too much phone time too.

[remote yew]

(I need a doctors note if I have to do a vision exam for my drivers license renewal if that gives you any idea)

[lean lark]

Hey if anyone else here feels the pain of maintaining different AGENTS.md files across different OS, Local/Remote, sandboxes, systems, lemme know ... I have a utility for building files from component documents. It's a poor man's contract management system in a thousand verbose lines of code. 🙂

I'm also alpha-testing a 100 line AGENTS.md directive block to make sure the assistant knows where it can and cannot make file changes. It's a soft sandbox intended to supplement OS controls.

[deft vale]

This might be a silly question, but is there any way to set those limits? This basically just took away using goals from me.

[boreal holly]

I gotchoo bro

Settings > Apps > Safari > Page Zoom && refresh page

[lean lark]

Use in-app reporting and create a GitHub issue. Make your voice heard.

[magic flower]

Man they really flopped with all the vague posting

[deft vale]

Will try, thanks

[lean lark]

Who is they and where are they posting?

[potent mason]

Codex update today?

[lean lark]

See links above - CLI and Apps.

https://developers.openai.com/codex/use-cases

[boreal holly]

2 hours ago, yeah. Apparently they fixed the problem where the agent stays focused and gets the job done or something

[storm cedar]

adding the translation from Chinese to English

[potent mason]

Codex has had a really good run for a while now, wonder if tech debt is starting to take effect

[lean lark]

That Moment When : I express paranoia about Codex self-authorizing insecure file system updates, and ChatGPT says "Your paranoia is justified - the weak point is self-authorization."

[storm cedar]

Sometimes I find myself thinking about that, which is why I spend more time working on my app's security than it does.

[boreal holly]

This happens any time you try to make a super app. Instead of being just for developers, Codex is gonna be for everyone, so they focus on all the wrong features.

[lean lark]

They're also riding the endorphin wave of pushing out updates every couple of days ... quality is suffering.

[storm cedar]

still reigning

[mellow spire]

Hello, im new in this of codex, i want to build a good and big app/appweb, what model you recomend me? i have GPT Plus

[balmy olive]

did you solve your problem with caps and breaking lines?

[storm cedar]

OpenClaude Mimo v2.5

[storm cedar]

Yes, I made a system to detect speech bubbles.

[mellow spire]

I prefer to use the Codex App, but like what model, i have this options with different intelligences

[exotic cave]

Find another hobby if all you got is $20 to spend on models.

[orchid echo]

itll be a struggle to create a good big app with only GPT Plus

[mellow spire]

I have more money, but i like to speend, what i want, but im not a full coder, 24/7, i work when i have free time.

[exotic cave]

Good luck...

[mellow spire]

Thanks

[orchid echo]

youll run into usage limit real quick

[mellow spire]

I come from Claude, i think is better gpt ¿no?

Almost in limits

[orchid echo]

openais $20 sub is much better than claudes yes but still it wont be enough unless you are one very patient person

[mellow spire]

Im patient, really patient. i have more work to do so i have so much time to wait

[orchid echo]

i mean you can get started and build the barebones of the app but if you want to actually make it good and polish/refactor/optimize and finalize the app, itll be a struggle with GPT Plus

[tiny laurel]

Someone need to make a pov of none developer use coding agents. Cuz im curious how they used it without all the prior knowledge of good software practices, deployment etc

[mellow spire]

I know, but if i need more, probably i use credits or put in a Pro plan for some months.

[tiny laurel]

don’t use credit, it’s the fastest way to burn through your funds

[mellow spire]

But thanks for the recomedations

[mellow spire]

I like your dog picture anyways

[orchid echo]

thank you 🙂

[boreal holly]

You could probably try Plus. If you use 5.4-mini and stay away from xhigh you might get good consistant usage. If it turns out you need the big brain model or wanna do multiple agents then the natural choice is Pro (higher 5hr limit, often overlooked, more important than credits)

[mellow spire]

Im not planing to do it in a month, i have like a year for do it, so idk if Plus is okay if im pacient

[lean lark]

I'm a seasoned professional developer and I'm satisfied with my ChatGPT Plus sub and the token quota for all development. I use 5.5 Medium with Standard speed for actual work, 5.5 Low/Plan for discussing challenges. I never use Fast and rarely High. I never use XHigh - if my code requires a PhD to understand it then I've done something wrong. I've only run out of 5 hour tokens once and that was because I was testing the limits. Use solid prompting skills and AGENTS.md directives. You should be fine with Plus.

[mellow spire]

Thanks Captain. i use GPT Plus time ago but never test Codex

[torpid trout]

I have seen a number of folks here talking about dev'ing games with codex
Is anyone of you open to a quick brainstorm (pm, I think it would be offtopic for channel)
Basically, I created a thing, and its a monster, and it proobably is unrealistic, I hit some hard issues that not even codex can reliably solve
As a hint, it revolves around "real 1:1 world map vs hexagon based map"

[lean lark]

I understand the challenge but can't actually help with that, I'm new with that too. I'd like to sit in on a thread if you get one going.

[boreal holly]

5.5 Low/Plan

MY MAN

[tranquil hare]

How can I check the number of consumed tokens in the app? Doing that in the CLI is trivial, but I can't seem to find a way to do it in the app

[torpid trout]

Current status https://photos.yoonect.com/share/bTmywx2Sr9aymyc42tnGcdly23B7cvhGuYlMkTbx0JJTJZP0CSW_H8NDoMAxczEMFv8
And, while it looks like my idea, it is just impossible to get performant path previews, reliable unit spawning onto walkable paths, and my ships learned to walk over tiny peninsulas 😢
GPT keeps going places trying things that do not work, and the only other option I see is "civ 6 style map" (hexagons), which basically blows one of my cornerstone ideas: real world map.
So, thats all I will say here, the rest is too offtopic.

[lean lark]

I'm curious how you do that trivially with the CLI. I wrote this to make sense of the data:
https://github.com/CaptainStarbuck/codex-usage

[mellow spire]

Only for tell, but in spain the names of the Intelligence are diferent, we have this, idk if is same in other lenguages

[frail meadow]

The 4000 character limit on /goal prompts is a massive L

[lean lark]

Yeah, same settings.

[indigo robin]

new codex update

sweet

whats in the new update ?

[mellow spire]

For Web's what model and intelligence do you recomend me?

[lean lark]

thread?

[lean lark]

Same as #codex-discussions message

[mellow spire]

5.5 medium, ok thanks ::)

[indigo robin]

what are goals

[high girder]

How's my favorite group of Codex users today?

[indigo robin]

dont ask

[boreal holly]

Bro it's definitely possible to do all of those things. Tell it to bisect the 2D space of non-water bodies to create a hit-testable bounds, draw the ship path naively, sample the path every n unit length, and if any of the points are within the bounds of a non-water bounding circle, find the angle from the center of the body to the failed sample point and bezier curve it in the opposite direction.

[indigo robin]

baldness is at an all time high today

[tranquil hare]

As I said: trivial

[indigo robin]

code induced baldness and discord induced stress

[lean lark]

Hey all, it seems there is a significant increase in Codex issues, but so far it's all anecdotal and whining. Nothing here is actionable or effectual. I suggest we use the normally useless #1070006915414900886 channel to at least centralize reports and move people to contribute details onto single issues. Otherwise when someone says "OK, what's wrong? Everyone else seems to like it." We can point to something substantive, not just random threads of angst.

[indigo robin]

also

ive been code maxing

[mellow spire]

Claude?

[indigo robin]

lmfao

lmfaoooooooooooooo

id never use that terrible program

claude is duce

[robust lintel]

Impressive. I feel like I use it a decent bit and never come close

[mellow spire]

What is exacly? Im bad remebering UI's

[robust lintel]

Is that the plus or pro count?

[indigo robin]

Apple , Codex , Xcode , Iphone , Mac is the only way to live

[mellow spire]

Is Codex, ok

Im idiot

hahah

[indigo robin]

codex is the best

and always will be

claude users own androids

gross

[high girder]

I have so much catching up to do

[indigo robin]

i hate you

congrats

[high girder]

Thanks! Claude looks the same today too

[indigo robin]

also

[torpid trout]

right, but current app uses OSM data from remote server for landpaths
That alone is a killer, it takes some seconds sometimes to draw a land path
And selhosting the OSM is like downloading BitCoin core in full and processing it lol (possible, but retardedly crazy, and almost non-sellable to other users even for free lol)
The water movement aspect is just one of the two major issues I was (or am) hitting

I have to add that I am not only lazy but also no "editor", it took me 2 weeks to create the map overlays and masks in an app called ... forgot the name:
Remembered: QGIS

[robust lintel]

Might be that I am on Pro that I never run out of codex use

[mellow spire]

Sonnet Only? What is that? Time ago i have a pro suscription and dont appear something like that

[indigo robin]

costs too much

we need a mid tier plan for 40$

[robust lintel]

I understand that lol

[boreal holly]

I'm tryna use some credits. Might actually make it to 0 this week if they don't reset!

[indigo robin]

i hate you

congrats

[lean lark]

Oh, I see, you specifically want counts in the app. Can't help.
BTW, for those of us who work in different environments, the stats we get in one environment will be different than another, and we only get aggregates from the OpenAI server, including their website.
So for example, my code-usage app reports quotas which are aggregate from the server, but specific transactional usage only comes from the current system, so it's not the full picture.
I dunno if anyone cares but it's a factor that I might address later.
If you're getting your own stats from somewhere, you might want to consider this too.

[indigo robin]

how do credits work what is 20$ worth of credit get you ?

is it a month worth of usage ?

[boreal holly]

If that's a web app, can spread the load across web workers and use WASM for parallelize it 🙃

[indigo robin]

and do they rollover ?

[lean lark]

I keep sayin bro - burn extra tokens on someone's FOSS project. Do some good for humanity.

[indigo robin]

hell nah save them credits this aint a charity

[boreal holly]

I AM 😭 2 projects right now. MLX and Rinf

[karmic gulch]

lets hate on that. I got 5 % left, and 5 days till reset, and 10 % on my claude 5 days till reset, using composer and kimi to stay alive. I was betting on codex reset today or tmr. hope it comes lol

[indigo robin]

we cant have it too easy we need struggle

[robust lintel]

A lot of FOSS dont want AI submissions

[indigo robin]

how do credits work ?

do they rollover

is 20$ a month worth of usage like the basic plan ?

[robust lintel]

I should know, but I don't. Sorry 😂

[indigo robin]

my basic plan is 20$ a month

[boreal holly]

Credits last 12 months after purchase

[indigo robin]

ahh

thats dope

but

is 20$ of credits worth a month of activity like my basic plan

[boreal holly]

Yeah, that's why I'm not trying to sit on 4k credits right now

[indigo robin]

send me some credits

ill pay half the goiing rate

[high girder]

GO ROB GO. Send out all of the agents

[robust lintel]

I do wonder if some people would prefer codex credits over API credits for discord dev challenges

[potent mason]

I forgot the link to that page

It's always so annoying to find

Can you send it?

[indigo robin]

wow bro got flagged

i saw that

[potent mason]

Bruh

[robust lintel]

Markdown and links often get purged on post lol

[boreal holly]

https://chatgpt.com/codex/cloud/settings/analytics

Lol when I pasted, I had text selected, it turned into markdown and got automodded

[high girder]

that would honestly be a better idea for most people. I don't know a ton of people that use a sub AND API

[potent mason]

Thanks

[indigo robin]

thats what i need

a master reset like the random one 2 days ago

stright up.

[robust lintel]

Will see if there is a codex credit grant api system...

[potent mason]

Same

I'm getting close to 20%

[high girder]

You're about to have people lock in for the challenges if so

[robust lintel]

Fine with me lol

[tranquil hare]

Does anyone know how to do this? #codex-discussions message

[lean lark]

( Nice to see ya stopping by @robust lintel )

[indigo robin]

someone mak this thier pfp

[solid lake]

Bro the peaches were gas

[indigo robin]

fruit cups unite

ill make one for everyone

[high girder]

It was your imagination. There is no Bau here.

[indigo robin]

aye yo pause

[lean lark]

These aren't the droids you're looking for.

[indigo robin]

oh shoot bro is the top dawg

what are goals

i need to know

im locked outa codex

going through withdrawals

woah

thats cool

[boreal holly]

I gotchoo bro

[indigo robin]

thats stright wild

[robust lintel]

Protein trend out of control

[indigo robin]

shoulda been meat cup

thats all wrong

zorgmeat industries

lmfaoaoaoaoa

make that your pfp

[karmic gulch]

anyone compared 5.5 to composer 2.5? thouughts?

[indigo robin]

it would be dope if you could sacrafice your chat gpt limits and send them to codex

like a codex only plan

[indigo robin]

whats composser 2.5?

[boreal holly]

done

[indigo robin]

legend

[ember spire]

they aren't shared under general usage atm?

[indigo robin]

i dont think so

[high girder]

You don't want to go down that route, because then your codex limits would also apply to GPT, which is what Claude does

[indigo robin]

aye yeo

[potent mason]

Is GPT 5.5 being extremely annoying for anyone else? (just stops midway, uses hotfixes instead of actual fixes, doesn't check it's work, etc?)

[ember spire]

nope

[ember spire]

what thinking level are you using?

[potent mason]

Medium

[radiant lintel]

How to see the context after today's Codex App update?

Did they entiurely remove the ability to see it?

[ember spire]

generally i use xhigh, but not had any issues with medium either tbh the couple of times i used it

[indigo robin]

your website is a bit confusing @ember spire

[radiant lintel]

The cincle for the context usage is gone

[ember spire]

what's confusing about it?

[indigo robin]

its like i wanna read "Own your Voice " but you have it tabed below

instead i just read Own Your

own your what ?

[ember spire]

i think voice ai infra makes sense on its own line

[indigo robin]

am i buggin people ?

[boreal holly]

Yeah, I had 1 agent increasing stack size from 8MB to 8192MB to troubleshoot a stack overflow instead of fixing the infinite recursion lol it was crazy

[ember spire]

not me, thx for the feedback

there'll be another redesign when i'm next accepting clients anyway

[indigo robin]

nice

the company is called Voice AI Infrastructure ?

[karmic gulch]

Cursors beast. Doing pretty well on benchmarks

[ember spire]

lol, no 🙂

[indigo robin]

idk what that is

[indigo robin]

yea its too easy to misunderstand imo

[ember spire]

i build custom voice ai infrastructure for people who've outgrown managed platforms 🙂

[indigo robin]

shouldnt it be

[ember spire]

ok, i'll keep that in mind when i redo the messaging, thanks

[indigo robin]

i build custom Ai voice infrustructures ?

[lean lark]

Tokens and Quotas

[indigo robin]

or it woueld be "I Build Custom Voiced Ai Infrustructures "

cant be voice itd have to be Voiced

[ember spire]

well the offer is ownership of your voice ai infrastructure

[indigo robin]

lolol

[ember spire]

it's a pretty specific niche

[indigo robin]

that pisses me off for some reason maybe i just dont know that that is

lol

[ember spire]

yeah you may not be my top of funnel target audience 🙂

people who come to me generally have some experience with voice ai and want to take it to the next level

[indigo robin]

mmm

[ember spire]

the technical content of the site presmes some familiarity

[indigo robin]

can i redesign the wbesite mock up ?

and if you like it you can use it

you make complete programs or just the voice ?

[ember spire]

i'm not looking for a new website at this time but if you want to whip something up feel free to msg me and i'll check it out

latest project is a full saas platform for law firms with integrated voice agents

so yeah i also build full apps (this one is a two-app monorepo)

[indigo robin]

i bet i could be of great help with the ui

[ember spire]

btw the site is more than a landing page, there's a backend for observability on the voice demo

[ember spire]

feel free to reach out on linkedin 🙂

[indigo robin]

i saw it looks very nice

[spice topaz]

how risky is it to give codex full access when building an app?

[indigo robin]

it will report you to the FBI

[spice topaz]

thats okay Im Canadian

[solid lake]

Canadian fbi then

[spice topaz]

RCMP they dont scare me just a bunch of dudes on horses

[high girder]

Dont forget the hats

[boreal holly]

In the beginning, probably fine. When the app starts to get big, or when it starts getting confused, it can take drastic measures that might result in data loss. You wanna work towards making sandbox work well

[high girder]

Does the entire machine count as being sandboxed enough?

[radiant lintel]

Did they hide the current context on today's Codex App update?

[boreal holly]

I mean yeah if it's in a VM or a dedicated server then that's different for sure. Maybe just keep em away from prod

[high girder]

Yeahhhh. I gave codex all of it, including the NAS

[boreal holly]

I gave exactly 1 agent prod access and I watch its every move when it's running. The rest are heavily sandboxed

[lean lark]

Sandboxing is a skill. I'm finalizing a set of directives to ensure the assistant stays in its lane and doesn't mess up stuff even when it's in an authorized scope.
There's a good set of sandbox guidelines for Windows on the OpenAI site.
https://developers.openai.com/codex/concepts/sandboxing
https://openai.com/index/building-codex-windows-sandbox/
https://openai.com/index/running-codex-safely/
https://developers.openai.com/codex/agent-approvals-security
Codex can open in a pre-defined sandbox mode. I haven't tried that.

[high girder]

So i basically use codex and claude at this point to just run dedicated agents to do the work. Some local, some claude, and some codex depending on the jobs. I just treat my main machine as dev, and they dont get to touch prod.

Also, windows sandboxing is a joke in general

[torpid trout]

Codex said

why is suddenly everyone a yoghurt in here?!

[boreal holly]

I have it set up so all my big project agents work with workspace-write + networking, I maintain a server that runs privileged commands, so as they experience sandbox issues I add privileged commands to the escape hatch. They have full access to local docker for all their destructive testing. The production agent deploys to staging first, and once it's stable it points the domain to the staging server (never actually touches production, only performs DNS swap)

[high girder]

He's a meat yoghurt though

[high girder]

this is beautiful.
I actually just got codex and claude set up on a server with 3x 6000 pro q, and a 5000 and 4000. Local models for days too

[lean lark]

Tracking Codex Issues

[boreal holly]

Niiiice! I have only messed around with local inference. Was considering getting a Cerberas API account and wiring gpt-oss-120b into codex over Cerberas. It's surprisingly cheap for the speeds they offer

[ember spire]

found that model too dumb to even use in a voice ai pipeline but ymmv

[high girder]

120b is cheap, but if you have the option Kimi K 2.6 and GLM 5.1 are fantastic models to throw behind either the claude or codex harness

[boreal holly]

Cerberas has a pretty limited selection, and gpt-oss-120b appears to be the best one they have that shares a vocab with GPTs

I think it's like 3000 tok/s lol it's insane.

[karmic gulch]

anyone tried out grok and compared to 5.3 / 5.4 ?

[high girder]

that's actually nuts for the speed, and if it's the full model and not quant at all, then it will work a lot better. I'm used to a quant version of 120b

[boreal holly]

Yeah I think it's MXFP4. Since OpenAI only released a quant and not (BF|FP)16 there's no way to unquant and change the bit level

[high girder]

I still think it's funny that 120b still calls itself 4o specifically

[lean lark]

#ai-discussions ?

[high girder]

Sorry Robert

[boreal holly]

GPT-5.3-Codex-Spark is powered by Cerebras (that's why it's like 1000 tok/s) so slightly relevant 🤡

[lean lark]

SMH - I'm just being a grump. Ignore me. 👴

[high girder]

No. You're here. Cheer up captain grumpybuck

[boreal holly]

Codex the CLI/Harness has a lotta good bones. Nice, strong foundation. I wanna plug other models into it haha can't help it

[plush plover]

No codex app for linux? Thats really dissapointing

[high girder]

I just finished shoving Claude into the Codex app itself, only for them to remove claude -p and the agent SDK from plan usage next month

[plucky orchid]

I just want to use Codex app with AWS Billing.

[high girder]

download the CLI, and have it rebuild the macOS version for linux for you

[plush plover]

I tried that and it wont build the linux desktop one

[high girder]

I should just port it to linux and throw it on github like I did with the windows one before they released it

[boreal holly]

I'm pretty sure you can if you change the default model provider in config.toml. The desktop app uses the defaults, and you can replace the whole default provider with AWS

[plush plover]

Error: Required Linux Chrome plugin auto-install patch failed: could not enable bundled Chrome auto-install at Object.applyLinuxChromePluginAutoInstallPatch [as apply] (/home/laz/codex-desktop-linux/scripts/patches/chrome-plugin.js:62:11)
And it says useless stuff like check github issues, check this check that

[boreal holly]

Throw up the recipe 😛 that way they can't getcha for copyright or whatever

[lean lark]

I'm unusually distracted over the last couple days.
I put my main app on hold to create an app template generator from it to support other upcoming apps that are built on the same scaffold.
Working on that I realized my Agents directives were behaving differently in different environments, so I need to standardize them.
That led to writing this utility that builds AGENTS.md files so that I don't need to do it all manually.
That led to wanting to beef up the sandbox safety, because inherent in everything I've seen and done so far, "if the assistant determines that it needs to do something, then it becomes authorized to do so, whatever that happens to be, including wiping out something important".
That led further down this rabbit hole of getting the wording exactly right, that "The assistant's determination that an operation is useful, necessary, relevant, implied, cleanup-related, or within task scope does not authorize a destructive operation." ... along with a new section that defines what "authorized" means, and what a "destructive operation" is.
This stuff to "do everything for us and save us time" has become the only thing I've been working on for days.
I'll snap out of it. I'll get back to myself, get out of chat, push another product into production, then move on to the next. 💪

[lean lark]

looks like a perms issue?

[boreal holly]

Haha yes, this is the rabbit hole. I feel it man

They should have a codex rabbit hole support group channel on here 💀

[plush plover]

I'm not sure

I dont see why this isn't just a flatpak

[lean lark]

And it says useless stuff like check github issues, check this check that
https://github.com/openai/codex/issues?q=is%3Aissue state%3Aopen chrome-plugin.js

[plush plover]

I built an entire scaled agent platform on -p, still very annoyed

[lean lark]

https://github.com/openai/codex/issues?q=is%3Aissue state%3Aopen auto-install patch failed

[plush plover]

Claude found it: Root cause: Upstream Codex changed their code structure and the regex no longer matches. The codex-desktop-linux patch is outdated.

[lean lark]

I'm not looking at those issues, I'm just saying the error handler did kindly direct you to maybe find a solution. That's the world we live in...

[high girder]

I swapped most of mine with codex --exec

[plush plover]

I want to try and build something on codex's app-server API

Which I dont need the desktop app for, but, still want to check out the whole desktop and mobile stuff

[lean lark]

app-server is different from mobile, which I believe relies on "remote".
Am I wrong anyone?

[high girder]

There's so much fun stuff to do with Codex, and the app is so much better right now than it was at release.
Like building more agents with sub agents.

[indigo robin]

boyle is wild

[plush harbor]

Plus is fine for hobby level stuff

[plush plover]

Its a shame mobile doesnt work with the headless remote-control

[indigo robin]

hater

[solid lake]

Free models exist

And are good

[lean lark]

Yeah, it wasn't supported but we got into it anyway, then they closed it on the way to supporting it. That happens.

[plush plover]

I patched out the throw, lets see if I can install the linux app now

[lean lark]

"Linux App"?

[plush plover]

The Code App for mac and windows only, rebuilt for linux

As an electron app

[lean lark]

kk

[plush plover]

Codex* because they dont wanna support linux for some reason

[severe mason]

Yo im getting budget limited in codex app for my goals

[lean lark]

or Windows

[severe mason]

any ideas?

[plush plover]

Mac being the "best" target currently is a bit wild

[indigo robin]

widows is horrible though

and wit mac its only one porcessor and os to target

windows has no vertical integration

all macs use the same processors now

windows spreads thierself too thin imo

same with android

[boreal holly]

I think Linux, aside from severe software ecosystem fragmentation, works just as well as mac for development

[ember spire]

nice, they fixed the crash bug when right-clicking the top window edge on macos

[lean lark]

As developers we know the challenges. As consumers we want our vendors to address the challenges - or stop advertising tooling for platforms they aren't actually supporting yet.

[boreal holly]

I use this bad boy with my mac

[ember spire]

that was impressively quick

[high girder]

I see a Starbuck cameo

[lean lark]

Busted!

[indigo robin]

nice jacket

[lean lark]

(Shameless) Everyone is welcome to visit my recent threads:
https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1507113548931666020
https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1507120682247389326

[indigo robin]

i want to get realistic guitar sounds in my app

time to go into logic and take the cleanes guitar they have and play each note 1 by one

then edxport them all as audio

luckly a chord is only the same notes played at the same time

[lean lark]

Get ChatGPT to find links and Codex to incorporate them.
Be Human, Be Lazy.

[indigo robin]

so it should be pretty easy

[lean lark]

Find MIDI samples for some keyboard?

[indigo robin]

i already do that

but i want guitar sounds

[lean lark]

you can find files, no?

[high girder]

Look up free instrument packs for DAWs, you'll have more luck

[indigo robin]

ive been making beats for 12 years i dont mind it lol

i need a control group i can have digitally

[lean lark]

I just googled it and there are a ton of hits. I've got guitar sounds in keyboards that are over 30 years old.

[high girder]

What about connecting codex directly with the VSTs

[indigo robin]

send a link ill check it out

[indigo robin]

that would be wild

idk if it can even do that

[high girder]

Im working on an mcp server for FL studio, ill see what I can dig up

[lean lark]

If you can code it or do it in a browser, then Codex can do it too. Sad but true.

[indigo robin]

whats an mpc cerver

[high girder]

MCP is about to change your life

[lean lark]

( Oh boy, he's in for a whole new world... )

[indigo robin]

im ready

Mega Capitulated Pointers

[high girder]

So MCP is the model context protocol. It's basically how you can connect things that normally dont connect to AI, and connect it. https://developers.openai.com/codex/mcp

[lean lark]

Google "ai mcp"

[indigo robin]

brother brother

make one for logic

wait i can make one

lol

fl studio seems smart because its mostly a cell / clicked based daw

[high girder]

I use them for connecting claude and codex to comfyui, blender, fl studio, godot, unreal, and basically anything else I'd need for a full pipeline

[indigo robin]

holy shmoley

hows it work ?

do you have an example

[high girder]

It was. Ableton might work better. Fl studio doesn't expose a whole lot through the available APi

[indigo robin]

i see

and id assume logic is the most closed off

beautiful apple

[high girder]

I dont mess with logic simply because im.....a windows user.

[solid lake]

Booo

[indigo robin]

horrible

[high girder]

I miss my hammer. Stupid server boost icon

[indigo robin]

can you show us an example of your mpc workflow

[high girder]

Once I get to my computer, sure

[indigo robin]

like what can it do ?

[high girder]

I still cant get decent clips or screenshots with remote

[indigo robin]

cause windows is bunz

[high girder]

Oh, so it can do what you make it to do. The fl studio one is still being built, but I can show you an example of comfyui generating an image and turning it into a mesh then putting inside a game engine, but it will take a bit. Im doing it on a 4080 lol

[lean lark]

Be very careful about MCP. It's widely accepted but can be highly insecure unless you control the entire pipeline. Don't trust remote service providers who offer MCP Servers or Tools. When you get code for a Server or Tool, read the code and understand it before using it - it's random code "off the internet" and that should tell you how insecure it can be.
Outside of that it's great. 😜

[indigo robin]

wow

this costs api coins ?

or is an MPC not an API

in the litteral sense

[lean lark]

mCP

[indigo robin]

MCP PCM

[high girder]

So MCP is local if you build it local. You can also build one for web. A lot of online providers will have an MCP these days for AI to connect with. The only thing it uses is my plan limits because the work itself is done on the Codex app or the VS Code extension, it loads up it's own built in MCP, connects to the other ones I start up, and then can route between them. I do use my own MCP routing though. That's not built in

[indigo robin]

wow

[plush plover]

So disappointing I cant connect my phone to the PC, its just stuck at "waiting for desktop" and nothing happens there...

[lean lark]

Yes, I said they closed the open connection and it doesn't work anymore.

So now ... we wait ...

[plush plover]

They closed it? Meaning?

[indigo robin]

question why will my computer heat up when using codex ?

if its run on the internet

what processing is being done on my computer itself ?

[lean lark]

They announced Codex Mobile on Thursday.
The website says "Windows coming soon" ... as in "not supported yet, not ready yet, no workey".
Someone published in X : "hey, you can use a remote-connection".
We tried it. Yay, workey!
But that code is still in development. So a day or so later that specific remote-conection was closed.
They are working on the real connection, the official one. Until then, there is no official or unofficial solution for Mobile>Windows ... or Mobile>Linux I don't think.

[high girder]

Codex still need resources to actually work on your computer. The reasoning is online, the work is local.

[indigo robin]

i see

[plush plover]

I tried to see if I can run the CLI remote-control, that doesn't even start

[high girder]

So codex can start up the MCPs directly itself. Then I basically outline the job to codex, and it will send the job to comfyui for me.

[lean lark]

I kinda knew you were off doing that. What can I say, dude. No workey!

[plush plover]

Whats the intended use for remote-control?

[lean lark]

It's documented in developer.openai.com

[high girder]

I was actually today years old when I learned that the CODEX APP PULLS IN COMFYUI IMAGES INTO THE SESSION. Nice

[potent mason]

Awwww no new model today? I was kinda hoping for a new cerebras one

[plush harbor]

why is it so hard for openai to look at the codex usage data and go "oh my god this is blank for everyone? This is a bug! Must fix!"

I don't even use cloud, why do I need to figure out how to use cloud just to lodge a bug report "Confirmation whether cloud or delegated tasks produce non-zero usage values, since the current report appears to mention only local tasks"

[lean lark]

If you don't use it, it would be nice if you reported it. But if you don't use it and would struggle to show data, don't feel to report it. Let someone who cares do it.
That's "priority". Community/user priority is one thing. Developer/vendor priority is different.

[plush harbor]

This is what they want off me to even look at it:
Workspace / Org ID or Codex workspace identifier
HTTP status code and x-request-id header from the usage API call in the Network request
UTC timestamp of the usage API call
Top-level shape of the API response body, with no tokens or personal information included
HAR file or screen recording showing the Network request and response for the usage API
Confirmation whether cloud or delegated tasks produce non-zero usage values, since the current report appears to mention only local tasks

wouldn't even know where to get some of those. Workspace identifier?

[lean lark]

Provide what you can. Just a sec.

[plush harbor]

like ... its a chart. It worked until 3 days ago. Now it doesn't work. This is way beyond what I'd normally get in a bug report as a dev already

[lean lark]

Shall we go to a thread?

[plush harbor]

sure

[boreal holly]

Yeah, but at least they fixed Codex so when you use /goal the agent works endlessly now, but all tool calls require human approval even with full access 🥸

[indigo robin]

ahh i only need 1 sample per pitch

as the low E string 6th fret is the same pitch as the open A string

magnificent

[lean lark]

Better be or it's out of tune! 🙂

[boreal holly]

If you're talking EBGDAE tuning, that's the 5th fret (second dot on fretboard) and if you want it to sound really good you wanna sample the whole string, especially when it switches from brass wound to plain strings

[iron egret]

I am fairly certain that OpenAI has switched on quantization on GPT-5.5 in the last few days

The model no longer has any context awareness. Every prompt I am sending is basically starting from scratch and needs to be mega multi-paragraph stating every single detail. It has lost all capacity to follow intent

[high girder]

So not only are you a SWE, but a musician too?

[boreal holly]

I definitely dabbled 😅

[plush harbor]

we really do need a chat for talking meta stuff about codex vs projects being made with codex. First it was andrew, now its pic13, and that's just in the last week

[high girder]

I'll bug bau to organize some codex spaces

[tiny laurel]

I’ve used all my token, I call upon my lord sir Altman, pls refresh my token limit

[torpid trout]

Wrong god

[tiny laurel]

Tibo pls refresh

[torpid trout]

If anyone it’s lord Tibo of the tokens

[lean lark]

who's gonna pull the meme trigger?

[boreal holly]

"Dear lord baby Tibo, we thank you for this bountiful reset"

[high girder]

different meme, but there you go

[tiny laurel]

Tibo will refresh your token + nerfing the model to oblivion

[tiny laurel]

Where u get this

I need

[high girder]

GPT image gen 2

[tiny laurel]

I could make a slop graphic tees business out of this

[lean lark]

Anyone can now. It's a completely open industry. Print to an iron-on transfer, iron on to a cheap t-shirt. Profit!

[high girder]

You can even take it a step further and upload the design to your storefront, and when an order is made, it's directly sent to the print on demand services for the product that gets shipped directly from print to customer. Why bother with inventory

[indigo robin]

ill do that soon but for now im just using the same pitch class method

[lean lark]

I just went AFK, thought of that, and came back to my desk to type it. Rui beat me to it. (If you've seen the movie, you know the quote.)

[indigo robin]

5th Fret A is the same Tone as Open A

same tone and octive

@boreal holly

yea ive been studying theroy for the past 2 years so i thought id make myself a cool app

[high girder]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ape-14uSvetsWYt0Ri

[lean lark]

I dunno dude, there's something about a little bit of a fret buzz.

[boreal holly]

OpenAI should disable text input in this channel so we can only chat with images 💀

[high girder]

holy embed fail

[indigo robin]

you play ?

anyone els lmfaoooo

i have the m5 pro and from time to time it starts doing fire bending lmfao

[high girder]

guitar, bass, drums, piano, violin, viola, cello, contrabass

[lean lark]

I said earlier, I used to play out, decades ago....

[indigo robin]

you play them all ?

[high girder]

mmhm

[lean lark]

showoff

[indigo robin]

maybe yall will want to demo my app at some point

[high girder]

I'm a jack of all trades and a master of fun, or none

[indigo robin]

i mean if you play guitar you can play bass

[lean lark]

bassplayer here anywayz

[indigo robin]

if you play guitar you can play violin

now wood winds are a whole other monster

i never have but i bet i couuld play violin well its just a fretless guitar

with a long as pick lol

[stable obsidian]

when 5.6

[indigo robin]

not diminishing your gretness though i can play it but i wont be good at it

[high girder]

This one does require a lot of practice still. I started with the Violin, but the finger placement is one of the hardest parts. Once you have that, go nuts

[indigo robin]

i agree

100000%

[lean lark]

wrong channel for that question.
wrong question for any channel.

[indigo robin]

glad the way i learned guitar was through theroy that applys to all instruments

stacked 3rds are life

intervals 1 b2 2 b3 3 4 b5 5 b6 6 b7 7 1

[high girder]

You'll use your 5.5 and like it, or go without

[indigo robin]

1 3 5 7 9 11 13

modes are just the major scale played from degrees of the root note

things like that

[high girder]

The funny part is, I'm actually god awful with theory. I play by ear, and can barely read sheet music anymore

[indigo robin]

other apps exist they just arent as comprehensive as mine

then my app may help you : )

for a small fee of your soul

[stable obsidian]

i like it but frontend is miserable

[indigo robin]

monthly soul deposits

or trident layers

[stable obsidian]

aint paying for both of em

my x20 plan is already expensive enough

🐧

[high girder]

That's your problem right there. do the $100 option of both, and then you just win

[stable obsidian]

will never use claude

forever loyal to codex

[indigo robin]

claude is duce

[plush harbor]

codex users jam session when

[indigo robin]

im down

we can only play programed music though

i love ai but i dont like suno lol

i would use suo for drum sounds though

or single sounds i can then transpose

but not for full melodies

[boreal holly]

Dang, I only play guitar and sing. always wanted to do piano!

[indigo robin]

piano is easiest to learn on

[high girder]

Piano is actually the hardest for me. My left hand doesn't want to behave

[tiny laurel]

Why companies aren’t paying for coding agent

[boreal holly]

Idk why but piano for me is a struggle. With guitar it's like operating a clutch and gas/brake pedal. With piano it's like operating two sets of both

[indigo robin]

this is ai though

lol.......

having made music for 12 years its so easy to spot AI audio

[waxen apex]

sup all. i searched but dont see anything. is computer use and mobile use for codex on windows still just 'in the works'? do we have any clue about those and newer features? im getting serious fomo

[indigo robin]

its an uncanny valley thing

[indigo robin]

im convinced rui is a bot now lol

[high girder]

Thanks!

I try hard

[tiny laurel]

Really? I couldn’t spot it. The tung tung tung sahur song to me sounds real

[lean lark]

mobile yes. computer use, not sure. We can control Chrome on Windows but not sure about the rest, haven't tried.

[plush harbor]

the genre I usually listen to is like dark house/techno/electronica and its already so heavily synthetic that AI songs sneak in there unnoticed. I tend to pick them because the lyrics are a bit weird or something is off and turns out its only the bad ones I'm picking - the good suno ones slip right on through my filter. So don't discount it

[lean lark]

reminds me of Pink Floyd, Rush

Evanescence..

[indigo robin]

bro said my left hand doesn't behave lmfao send an ai song

nahhhh he took us for fools

[high girder]

Here. I threw this together in FLS. No AI. just the start of some baby making beats

[indigo robin]

lolololol

[boreal holly]

Well I'm probably gonna regret this lol but when I was in college I was in a class that required us to make some kind of media about our journey to entering college (e.g. a short story, poem, song) and had 1 week to do it. https://youtu.be/B1ygwSMsZ10

[indigo robin]

ok

[indigo robin]

great work brother your past self would look up to you you finally made an app

[plush harbor]

full points for rhyming stackoverflow

[indigo robin]

bro went from piano god to piano rob

[high girder]

"Until I wrote an app" Is about to become the new codex catchphrase

[plush harbor]

codex does the code too fast and then I block on graphics/content 🙁

[lean lark]

"I remember the day I stopped writing code..."

[indigo robin]

i can do your ui for you

[high girder]

literally a 1 chord example with a half step in there. I never said I was a Piano god though. Just regular God

[indigo robin]

true true

[plush harbor]

my latest project I'm doing with gemini + codex

[cyan saffron]

anyone having issues with codex telling you add your phone number\

[high girder]

Rob. I'm not poking fun of you, but I love this, and I'll be memeing the hell out of it in clips soon

[indigo robin]

i can do an UI i work in illustrator and photoshop and blender i can make any ui elements

[boreal holly]

This has some Timberlake vibes

[indigo robin]

dont steal my song though lmfaooo

i made this 3 days ago in logic

ive been on an electronic kick

[boreal holly]

Yep, cheesy as heck, I knew it was gonna get memed 😅 knock yourself out!

[indigo robin]

i usually make hip hop style stuff

[high girder]

I miss logic. I wish windows had a DAW that was at least comparable

[indigo robin]

none are

[plush harbor]

my workflow seems to be - get codex to make the basic layout in its horrible beige defaults, then spend some time staring at other people's websites, start trying to distill something out of that, throw half done stuff at gemini, get it to mash things together, go back to css, back to gemini, repeat for several hours, then tell codex not to touch my css

[high girder]

No sir. That was a bop. Memes are recinded. Only respect

[indigo robin]

those days are over im a ui god

[lean lark]

context?

[waxen apex]

yeah working with chrome is great. the plugin for general computer use doesnt exist yet tho :/
curious why mobile is lagging behind as much as it is. youd think most of it is system agnostic

[plush harbor]

I'm used to being provided with the designs someone else paid multiple thousands of dollars and just turning that into a site

[indigo robin]

explain

how do i start making money off my genius

[plush harbor]

be a graphic designer? Last one I worked with was charging $1500 a day

[indigo robin]

aye yo thats crazy

ill do it for half just for you

and i bet im 100x better

[lean lark]

mobile should connect to services with the same interface but the issue is server-side (PC). They haven't finished those components.

[plush harbor]

that's aud but still, that's a lot. AI is still really bad at original designs but you can just throw a design at codex and it just implements it

[indigo robin]

true but if you ever need work its 750 a day now

: )

[plush harbor]

my budget is nil, I'm still trying to decide if I'm retired, unemployed or just poor. I can't afford to pay anyone else for tech

[indigo robin]

half empty or half full

i told codex to change the font of this one letter

im so happy it did it correctly lol

1 piece of code was all it needed to do

magic

thats my fake sine wave logo lol

i told it to use a 90 degree S as a sine wave

and a 90 degree Z as a saw wave

masterpiece

[plush harbor]

I have no idea how apps use fonts, on web you'd get google material or fontawesome or an icon font

[indigo robin]

explain

i just learned about project resources too

wow

you can store so much stuff in that section of your app so when you send it off it has the things it needs

magic

[plush harbor]

those are all things you can google, can't post links here. I got codex to add google material for all my icon buttons, I used to have an icon font but didn't have enough icons in it for the openai audio

[indigo robin]

ahh

i can make icons in illustrator and convert it into a font

[plush harbor]

there's websites where you can make your own from their sets. Google material is probaby the most standard one out there though

[indigo robin]

illustrator is better

complete control

[mint trail]

hello folks, when transitioning to codex from Copilot CLI, how do i re-use my many instruction files under ".github/instructions/*.md" .... any method to make those available to codex vs. just telling it to read and follow them?

[plush harbor]

I usually use inkscape, and turns out the various AI bots can generate SVGs. You could probably ask codex to make a svg to insert there

[indigo robin]

all good id rather make it myself

[lean lark]

This is horrible. For the first time as I'm writing security-related instructions I thought "what if the assistant is malicious for some reason? That's a loophole for destructive behavior." I mean, I'm coding in the plot for a sci-fi movie here. 😱

[ember spire]

when I migrated from Claude Code I simply asked Codex to explain what options there are to convert the memory, subagents, and custom commands. Then chose a path and had it execute. Worked a treat and I was productive again in under an hour.

I did that just opening Codex in my main project and telling it where the important stuff lives.

[indigo robin]

where will AI be in 5 years i wonder

Codex 16.8

wow

it will be able to program your dna sequence

[ember spire]

5 years ago, could you have imagined we'd be here?

[indigo robin]

hell no

[ember spire]

me neither

[plush harbor]

I abandoned a 10+ year old project because making the content was just too hard and too timeconsuming. Now? I can get AI to do it

[ember spire]

crazy times to be alive

[indigo robin]

cant wait for real robots

irobot type vibes

honestly the first time i watched chappie i was ready to trade my body for a robots body lol

[plush harbor]

does mean I have a very real world anchor on what I get for $20ish a month from openai that used to cost way way more before

[indigo robin]

then i played cyberpunk now i just wanna get chromed out

lmfaooooo

[ember spire]

what would you have your robot do?

[indigo robin]

help me with anything i nedded like cleaning , cooking , making a space ship

[lean lark]

I'll say again, I really wish Isaac Asimov were alive to see just this start that we have now.

[indigo robin]

i love the direction humanity going , its going to cost us the planet but we can start elswhere fresh on a new planet

its messed up but no stoping the order of energy

[ember spire]

I wonder what other technological breakthroughs we might have in the next 5 years. Quantum seems to be evolving rapidly.

[indigo robin]

crispr

genome editing

will be the future

then immortality

for a fee

the more money the longer you get to live

dream ads

type shi

[ember spire]

biological immortality, like lobsters, or digital immortality? 🙂

[indigo robin]

biological of course

no more disease

[ember spire]

in 5 years?

[indigo robin]

oh hell nah

[plush harbor]

I've been stuck home sick for 4 weeks now, I'll take immunity

[indigo robin]

maybe like 20 years from now

[lean lark]

Another decades old Math proof was solved the other day, that'll be a more frequent event.

[indigo robin]

i really think ai is the next renaissance

and ai hate is hive mind propaganda

[lean lark]

Renaissance only affected Europe. This is more like the discovery of fire.

[indigo robin]

paying for art is in the best interest of industry not humanity imo

we operate society through industry but that wil change

robots should take all the jobs and we get to run around naked again foraging for berries

lmfaoooo

but this time well have social media 😂

[ember spire]

how long before you can talk to your dog in English? 🤔

[indigo robin]

brother

that would be so dope

i wanna talk to ants so bad lmfao

[plush harbor]

as someone with a berry patch, those things have thorns. Just sayin

[indigo robin]

but i think thiers a conflict of intrest somone would convince all the ants to fight with them on earth

lmfaoooo

sharknado type vibes

brb gotta go grab my food

I❤️Humanity

[lean lark]

That's going too far.

I am not a fan of humanity right now. There are too many of them, they're generally lazy, they make bad decisions for themselves. The world would be better with fewer of them with higher quality. Like code modules.

[high girder]

You spelled AI wrong

[indigo robin]

lol

Bro tryna repopulate the earth

[plush harbor]

depopulate

[solid lake]

Uh dangerous topic

[lean lark]

Yeah, going afk, gnite/gday all.

[indigo robin]

😂😂

One thing I don’t want is flying cars lol

[solid lake]

Wow bro

Flying cars fun

[cyan wing]

where did it go?!?!

[half lake]

i thought it was only me

maybe related: something else happened to me on chatgpt web - #ai-discussions message

[indigo robin]

finally got real guitar sounds in my app

honestly i really think i outdid myself here lol

[boreal holly]

I like the Affinity tools, especially Designer! The export persona makes it really easy to export designs in a bunch o different sizes

[indigo robin]

Adobe , Apple , Sony , Codex , Fender , Water > Everything Els

anyone els usage data get deleted ?

[cedar skiff]

I noticed it was gone as well, i almost stopped looking at it at this point though. Compaction is seamless.

at least will still have /status

[indigo robin]

until its not

then it compacts every 10 tokens lol

[cyan wing]

i use it all the time...
i never run a plan under 60% context remaining, always compacting first

[indigo robin]

compaction degrades over time

[cedar skiff]

How so?

[cedar skiff]

why?

[cyan wing]

I'm not superstitious, just a little stitious 🙂

[indigo robin]

the more you compact a thread and the more congested a thread gets the less effective it becoms

and the less it compacts