#chatgpt-discussions

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lost saffron
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I am programming assisted by gpt and for extended contextual problems, it's really slow and it's lagging my progress, please help

sick pecan
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I read the blog... 'We plan to launch support for GPT-4o's new audio and video capabilities to a small group of trusted partners in the API in the coming weeks.'

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it's what I said

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humans just read what they wanna read

narrow viper
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As a Plus subscriber, one of the advertised benefits is advance access to new features. However, features have been announced that I still don't have access to (memory, new 4o features) and I've been doubting the value. I do value ability to create custom GPTs but I can use the API for that kind of functionality. So I'm not feeling it anymore as a subscriber.

native spear
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to me for example just 10 messages per 3 hours is unusable

restive plover
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What even is the point of having pro if free users get all the pro stuff?

narrow viper
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That's true - I have long discussions. I'm sure Plus gets higher priority over free too, but given the heavy loads pretty much every day, the only way I can appreciate that is the belief that free users are experiencing even worse performance. 🤪

normal quarry
restive plover
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Higher rates are nice but everything else I hardly use lol

narrow viper
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TreKs - that's what we're discussing, the Plus is now about limits, not features.

sick pecan
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chatgpt features would be those you don't get in the api, like inpainting images and editing spreadsheets

restive plover
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Meh :/

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Kinda silly imo

narrow viper
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It's up to each individual to determine "value" for their money. This value determination changes over time. OpenAI is well aware of the dynamics and how it affects the income from this specific area.

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Again, now it's no longer about features, it's about limits (tokens, priority, number of queries...).

sick pecan
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free users thought 3.5 was flagship. then reporting on how lame gpt was compared to the competition. so making 4o free for all was a very wise move

narrow viper
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I think you're right.

sick pecan
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you don't give people tasters from your worst offerings. that's terrible marketing

narrow viper
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That's the benefit to all for having competition. It's exactly the reason why Google and Meta and others have been forced to go public with their AI offerings ... fear of other companies getting to the audience first and locking them out.

rough tendon
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is my chatgpt having a stroke or what

narrow viper
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Well ChatGPT itself is a "taster". It's the HelloWorld intro to AI. It's LLM for the masses. It's kinda easy to give that one away to get the masses used to the concepts.

sick pecan
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Google fears the death of the search engine. Meta intend to disrupt the disruption knowing any ai edge will eventually be less important than 3 billion user base

twin path
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Chatgpt is getting worse

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and worser

normal quarry
twin path
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easpacully the coding, and 4o is the worst gpt

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30 promt ever 3 hours

sick pecan
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the concept of an llm wrapper is a dead end anyway. chatgpt is just a stepping stone in the way to mass integration into other apps

twin path
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i don't get to 10 and i get you ran out

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why gpt can't just like create a subdomain and test everythign in there, and not push bugs in the main page

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is getting two anoyying

narrow viper
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I was certainly feeling that GPT4 was getting worse due to tweaks in filters and performance issues. 4o is better but different. I don't think it's fair to compare the two because they are completely different code bases.

twin path
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but still why push gpt 4o to people, when they don't want to use it and there is no option to switch to 3.5, but we have to stay with gpt4o and wait 3 hourst jsut to talk again

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3.5 was better with coding and stuff, gpt4o you need to tell him code and not explain

narrow viper
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Don't confuse the LLM (GPT 4o) with the application ChatGPT. The application is a rather braindead user interface that makes API calls to the model. Separate your concerns about whether you don't like the UI or whether you don't like the responses from the LLM.

twin path
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how how can i talk to 3.5 with out any gpt 4o getting pushed in my face as is getting annoying

narrow viper
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Um, with Plus you get to select GPT-4o, GPT-4, OR GPT-3.5 ... it's a choice.

tawny crater
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Have they fixed the memory leak yet?

twin path
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there is no memory leak, and also now chatgpt site is crashing when i ask somthing

sick pecan
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because memory leak

tawny crater
narrow viper
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To get around memory leak, I believe the answer right now is to use mobile app. The issue is with memory leaking in the ChatGPT browser app, and the mobile apps are simply different software, so not the same issues.

void lake
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Hey fam, I just got conversation mode. Being in Spain, why am I getting LatAm Spanish pronunciation instead of Castilian Spanish? How can I change it?

narrow viper
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No 'th's eh? 🙂

visual nova
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As chats get longer it makes my computer spin up, what do you mean theres no memory leak?

tawny crater
narrow viper
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Odd One doesn't know what that means. 🙂

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Chelina - that's exactly what I said, isn't it? 🙄

visual nova
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I'll have ot test if its just the webpage getting too long

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IT would be funny if enough text causes the browser to lag because it happens on gemini and claude too

narrow viper
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"web page getting too long" = "memory leak"

visual nova
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its just gpt was better at not lagging my entire pc until this latest update

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idc about terms, my whole computer becomes unusable if i have a conversation thats too long and i have a good pc

tawny crater
narrow viper
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A "memory leak" means memory is allocated from RAM but not given back. So memory continues to get used up and your system goes slower - the app running consumes so much memory that it starts to slow down and crash.

visual nova
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it does crash, the browser tab constantly errors out everytime i type a new message

narrow viper
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Chelina - OK, fair enough, but I did say it's completely different software and not subject to browser issues. Nothing else intended or implied. As different software it has its own features and issues.

visual nova
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using the mobile app isnt really an acceptable solution, my longest chats are to write code.

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the api doesnt lag the same way with long conversations so for now going to that.

tawny crater
narrow viper
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Yes Orca - refresh the tab to reload the page and the memory for that tab clears. Refresh while clearing cache (ctrl-F5) is probably the best approach.

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OK Chelina - I don't think we have a disagreement. You're talking about a different issue. I have a different experience - I am using Android over Android v14. You?

tawny crater
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And stop replying to me, nothing you say is helpful or useful. Otherwise i will block you

narrow viper
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That was a simple question. You could be using a different OS or version. I have no idea who you are or what you know.

tawny crater
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I am done with this convo

narrow viper
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🙄 wow

rain mesa
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👋

latent ibex
vernal bridge
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Guys help me

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should I get GPT plus or not

sick pecan
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if you can afford it get team sub

narrow viper
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Look above, we were just talking about that. It's entirely up to your own sense of value and priorities.

void lake
tawny crater
latent ibex
vernal bridge
sick pecan
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because prompting without fearing cap is an entirely different experience

latent ibex
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95% of the time you won't hit limit

tawny crater
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I think that's why they said if you can afford it.

latent ibex
tawny crater
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Not everyone is you and people do reach the limit

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Alot.

latent ibex
regal portal
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everyone is me

narrow viper
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Team allows people to share session info. For the extra $5/person that may or may not be helpful to you.

sick pecan
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maybe just power users should consider team

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casual users probably fine with plus

tawny crater
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I used to hit the cap all the time in plus. Plus is also always subject to being capped more during high usage. I have yet to ever be capped on teams though.

latent ibex
narrow viper
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Yes by $5 each. That's what I said.

tawny crater
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For what you get? No.

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Maybe by price yea

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But not what you're getting

tawny crater
narrow viper
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Team benefits:

Everything in Plus, and:
Higher limits for GPT-4, GPT‑4o, and tools like DALL·E image generation, advanced data analysis, web browsing, and more
Create and share GPTs with your workspace
Admin console for workspace management
Team data excluded from training by default.
latent ibex
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dall-e image too

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only benefit is higher limits and sahred workspace

narrow viper
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Yes, that says "higher limits for ...."

latent ibex
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o right

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but tbh 2 accounts isa lr such a high usage cap, idk a use case to use it even more than that

tawny crater
narrow viper
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So that's the answer. If those things are valued, then yes, otherwise no. 🙂

tawny crater
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Unless you mean just plus

latent ibex
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people can take breaks too if cap reached

tawny crater
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most of the time no one ever says how they use it, they just ask which they should get and never come back. :^)

narrow viper
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Olivier - you are correct about the benefits being outdated though, at least for Plus they still have :

Early access to new features
Access to GPT-4, GPT‑4o, GPT-3.5
Access to advanced data analysis, file uploads, vision, and web browsing
DALL·E image generation
Create and use custom GPTs

Now all they can really say is "Free plus Early access" and they need to be clear about higher limits.
All of these details take time to advertise and get right in all required places. It's a process. Patience is required.

slim crescent
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product team sucks

narrow viper
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I prefer to say "inexperienced". 🙂

hardy sage
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Is anyone GPT down? Can't login.

sick pecan
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the text isn't outdated. the assertion that one thing implies another is inaccurate

slim crescent
hardy sage
narrow viper
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If your ChatGPT page is locked, refresh the page. Clear site cache if you can.

slim crescent
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since it is not that big

narrow viper
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I don't know if free users get memory, or conversation mode that will come with 4o. So maybe we still do have advantage over free in terms of features. Anyone have a solid confirmation on that?

slim crescent
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no, memory seems to be plus only but idk for how long (they never announced memory as a exclusive feature)

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and the voice will be available for free users as well. Just a little bit later

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(as they mention "first for plus subscribers" not denying that will be available one day to everyone)

sick pecan
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the cost advantage is huge. try running 32k context queries via the api and you will run up $20 an hour, not a month. the chatgpt subs are the best ai compute deal in town

slim crescent
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a product like this is created to support a medium user, not the heavy one and they know that most of the users isnt a heavy one...

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I think in the future the plus will be exclusively for higher limits, at least by the last announcements this is the impression they let

sick pecan
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chatgpt is likely losing money on powerusers

narrow viper
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Well, while the world at large still tends to think ChatGPT=AI, it's only a braindead implementation over the API. The API powers agents and all kinds of great functionality. So one can't really compare ChatGPT and API. We use one or the other at different times for different purposes.

slim crescent
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yep but these users are a very small amout. If they take a closer look, there may has users that doesnt even use it enought to be paying for it, that could be on free plan

sick pecan
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one can compare. just load up any chatgpt clone that users the api, eg open-webui. looks exactly the same ux, only $20 doesn't go very far

narrow viper
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ChatGPT is like the free drink with your combo meal - it's a "loss leader". It's the drug dealer's taste of what you can get later.

slim crescent
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I cancelled my plus, when its over ill try keep with the free since my usage is not that high. I mostly paid for have access to gpt-4

narrow viper
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Reasonable choices.

queen moat
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i think i noticed a problem with ChatGPT, but it needs confirmation.

on 2 separate occasions that i've uploaded files, when i asked it to do stuff with the files (like produce code) it seems almost as if it isn't using the files, but in the most cosmetic sense. like it knows what the files are about, but then tries to lean on its own understanding, and won't produce the code structure found in the files.

so it usually ends up, that i have to drop the entire code into the chat, and it works as intended. so i think there is something wrong with the analysis of files.

cold pewter
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free access to 4 is a demo at best. the measly 8 prompts goes by in a heartbeat, plus might as wel be unlimited, I sit there and talk with it for hours by the time the limit is almost up its reset. its more than worth it and then with actual voice coming soon? insane

ember pine
# queen moat i think i noticed a problem with ChatGPT, but it needs confirmation. on 2 sepa...

You should enable the setting “Always show code when using data analyst”. That will display the python code it’s writing as it’s reading your files, and sometimes it will write comments like, “reading the first 50 lines to understand the structure” or something and then just not look at the whole thing. So you need to instruct it to use its python tool to load and read the whole document in your custom instructions

narrow viper
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Warren: Which model? Free or Plus? What is the file extension? How big? Clean code or really bad? Language?

queen moat
queen moat
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but then if i post the contents of it, in the regular chat. in a series of posts. it works as intended.

narrow viper
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I think I've seen that too. How big is the file. It might be having NIAH issues (needle in a haystack). How big is the file?

heady verge
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Where do I post absurd results?

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like chatgpt repeated an antisemitic conspiracy theory, when i was trying to get it to refute it?

narrow viper
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Sadib, you can thumb-down the response in-line.

heady verge
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but i wanted to share it

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like how absurd it is

queen moat
ember pine
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I was going to say r/ChatGPT where all the other “AI hallucinated something and I don’t understand how LLMs work” posts go but yeah, thumbs down works too

narrow viper
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Warren, small python code doesn't trigger any thoughts... Have you published the GPT just for yourself and then used it in a new session - outside of Preview from builder?

ember pine
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@queen moat either use a raycast macro to paste the file contents whenever you upload so that it can pay better attention to your tokens or use the #dev-chat and concatenate your file contents to the query like this:


if (fileContents) {
    console.log(fileContents);
    user_input.content += "\n";
    user_input.content += file_id;
    user_input.content += "\n";
    user_input.content += fileContents;
    fileContents = null;
  }

}
dense halo
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memorizing doesn't work in macos app, nor quoting. sad. 🥺

narrow viper
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I don't think it's the file contents, at least I hope not.

queen moat
ember pine
queen moat
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my initial observation though is that, it doesn't seem like it uses the files data,
the same way as it addresses your conversation information.

narrow viper
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As I said, I don't like the thought of an issue like this being specific to the content of the file. That leaves application quality subject to the whims of the data. If we're talking about data that might be corrupted, like CSV or JSON, OK, but code or text? Nah. I like consistency and it doesn't sound like Warren has erratic files.

Warren, did you try a new session rather than Preview?

queen moat
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itj ust seems like it gathers just enough information to figure out what is in the files, without actually using the data inside the files.

narrow viper
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Warren - that might indeed be a Preview issue. I do think I've seen it do that in Preview now that we're talking about it.

queen moat
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here is the one i use. it works pretty effectively.
but i'm pretty sure i've had this issue in just the plain ChatGPT.
anyways, something to keep an eye on.

narrow viper
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Ahh, I think we're mixing terms. I thought you were saying you were building the GPT ... in the GPT builder. I don't know what a "chatbuilder GPT" is. Are we talking about the same thing?

weak prairie
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Bruh when is the update gonna drop…

queen moat
narrow viper
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Understood. I'm out of ideas. I will suggest though...

queen moat
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👍

narrow viper
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If you created the GPT before 4o, it might still be using the GPT-4 engine. I don't think they're auto-converting or updating the custom GPTs with the new LLM yet. That might relate to how your uploaded files are vectorized and thus affect the results. I am sure about the concern about LLM model differences, purely theorizing about vectorization.

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HTH

queen moat
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my second issue is far more frustrating, where it starts to reply, but then just stops mid-conversation. and then the only way to "unfreeze it", is if i start another chatgpt instance (in Firefox, in windows 11), and i usually have to wait until it finished its prompt, and sometimes even close this instance and start a new one.
also some other similar UI issue where the page is like partially loaded when i click on the conversation. it did this a little bit with the older ui, but the ChatGPT4o ui is very broken. sometimes it'll even pop up a window indicating a script is taking too long.

ember pine
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@queen moat I figured it out for u. CaptainStarbuck I don’t think you understood what I mean lol. That’s not how it works, I’ve coded with the assistants API and retrieval sucks.

Tested your custom GPT with a file, it’s being lazy. “text[:5000] # Displaying the first 5000 characters to avoid overload”

Also at first it used retrieval with RAG, so unless you tell it to specifically load the whole file and read the whole thing it won’t. Maybe disable retrieval in the settings because it’s kind of unreliable, you can’t see which tokens it’s searching anymore.

https://chatgpt.com/share/d4158f54-3fb7-4ab8-ba60-c0dca963bd23

queen moat
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hmm interesting

narrow viper
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Warren you mean just today? That's a known issue.

queen moat
queen moat
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perhaps in the gptbuilder i could tell it to completely read the files, and iterate over that a little more.

narrow viper
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Warren. I don't use the Create/Builder feature anymore. It's too limited. If you use Configure you can create a much better prompt. Otherwise it (used to?) summarizes your prompts to help you in the creation process.

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Zaki - gotcha. I'm sure the devil is in the details. TY

queen moat
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although to be honest, if it's even "intermittently" lazy, thats still a big issue.
if you have to tell it 10x to redo something, it's not really saving tokens. lol

ember pine
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Oh yeah that’s very true. Both of what u said…the configure tab is essential because LLMs haven’t been trained on the latest prompting guides. It’ll be all cheerful and vague, when you need to be specific and direct. YW!

The laziness is definitely a problem. I haven’t actually used assistants in a few weeks, so I don’t know whether it’s only ChatGPT or the 4o model. But either way firmly telling it in the system prompt to read the whole file and not use RAG should improve results. Unless you wanna disable python and only use RAG, but be specific in user prompts about what tokens it should focus on.

narrow viper
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Warren - I have had exactly that experience, having to tell it many times to look carefully, don't make assumptions, be thorough, etc. In fact, I opened a different session and got ChatGPT to help me craft a very firm prompt that was almost beating the model over the head to pay attention to what I was telling it. Got no small amount of criticism for the concept here, and notes about "don't tell it what you don't want" - but unless it is doing what we need we need to be much more assertive.

queen moat
narrow viper
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Zaki - to be clear, he's not coding, he's using the Create GPT process that has the GPT interface to create/modify a GPT. So concepts of RAG, retrieval, etc don't apply here.

queen moat
ember pine
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Isn’t he? When he posted that link it was to a custom GPT that was called “Project Builder Strategist”. Unless we both misunderstood lol but Warren is that GPT that I tested the one you’ve been having problems with? The builder gpt in the create interface is totally different, it’s got its own OAI-created prompt to create prompts that imo isn’t that good.

narrow viper
queen moat
narrow viper
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LOLz, there's still a miscommunication. Zaki - he's not coding. He is using that icky prompt to create prompts.

queen moat
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I think you all are referring to the "ChatGPT builder preview" section. but yeah, i haven't used that section in quite a while.

glass abyss
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anyone else noticing that ChatGPT is dying? I mean it crashes my browser now....

ember pine
narrow viper
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Copy/Paste:
About ChatGPT issues right now: There is a recognized "memory leak" issue with the browser app, not mobile. As you use ChatGPT more, with longer context, RAM will be consumed and not released and the browser will eventually lock or crash. To deal with this until it's fixed: 1) Try to avoid long context. Start a new session for new inquiry topics. 2) Refresh the browser page when it locks. You will probably see that your last prompt yielded a response that you couldn't see before. 3) You may not be able to refresh. Close the tab and re-open the page. You can get back into the same session.

glass abyss
queen moat
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ty for the help captainstarbuck and zaki. lol i am going to go now.

narrow viper
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me too. have a great day/night guys.

queen moat
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👋

ember pine
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👍🏽

low pewter
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where's the support channel?

ember pine
glass abyss
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Do they have a fix yet for ChatGPT not listening to instructions and writing horrible code, and repeating itself over and over again?

narrow viper
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Yes, it's called "Create a better prompt".

glass abyss
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lol

ember pine
narrow viper
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Seriously, sorry - wassup?

glass abyss
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API is crap now to

pliant escarp
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Chatgpt 4o full release when???

narrow viper
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Well, API is the same LLM.

glass abyss
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used to work better then the site

narrow viper
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ubadub - "when" questions can only be answered by "whenever".

ember pine
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Then it’s your prompting. API has always been reliable for me. You can even choose your seed, etc, lower the temperature to 0.4 if you’re coding, etc

narrow viper
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0.4? that's generous

glass abyss
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So spend credits on something that I am paying a monthy sub for

narrow viper
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For helping with code, the Chat UI should be OK. What's the core of the issue? Gotta leave soon, but will hang a bit...

pliant escarp
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"we will release chatgpt 4o" only releases a small part of it

narrow viper
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ubadub - it's an interesting approach/policy. Just is what it is with this company.

ember pine
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Eh sometimes I still want some creativity or else it gets stuck with generic functions.

But yeah jw, or you can try to recreate it in a Custom GPT, but it uses the Assistants API so still a bit iffy. Either way it’s your prompting, you still have to talk to it the right way

narrow viper
pliant escarp
glass abyss
narrow viper
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JW, give us something. You asked...

pliant escarp
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I want the gpt 4o they showed in the demo

glass abyss
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its private code

narrow viper
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ubadub - don't we all...

glass abyss
narrow viper
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OK, so ignore the specific code. What's it kinda not doing for you?

ember pine
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Share links then. Is it just the 4o model? In fixing the laziness problem it will give you the full code so it can get repetitive but it’s what the people wanted.
Still Turbo if you select it in ChatGPT should be about the same as before

glass abyss
narrow viper
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Ouch, that's bad.

glass abyss
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I mean how can you guys not see this

narrow viper
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I've had issues with larger blocks of code but not complete forgetfulness unless the function is buried in others. How much code are we talkin about?

ember pine
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Copy and paste the function that it wrote into your user input. I think ChatGPT has context compression going on and it pays less attention to tokens in the “Assistant” role. If you just told it to rewrite a function that it wrote it sometimes won’t be exact. Known issue

glass abyss
narrow viper
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thinking

glass abyss
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it is what it is, Claude Opus is God compared to OpenAI rn. There message cap is awful though

narrow viper
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Have you tried to opened a new session, switched to the v4 model (not 4o) and tried the same prompts?

glass abyss
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yes

ember pine
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I mean tbf sometimes I do have to be like: “as a reminder this was the code u wrote and this is what I want it to be ultimately” every few thousand tokens.
Can be a bit iffy but since it’s ChatGPT it’s not like I’m paying for more tokens so it doesn’t matter how much I crowd it with repetition.

glass abyss
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and the model gives different response on when its cutoff training time is

narrow viper
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Yeah, it often doesn't know it's cutoff.

pliant escarp
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So no one has access to the full gpt4o yet? I thought it might be because I'm in Germany or because I'm not a paying customer

glass abyss
ember pine
narrow viper
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ubadub, can't say "no one". Mac users do with desktop and some API beta users do.

glass abyss
narrow viper
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JW, like Zaki, I acknowledge the issue with similar experience, though it's usually not that horrible. I got nothing for ya on this one, sorry.

glass abyss
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Its all good man, I am just trying to gauge where other people are at

ember pine
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Maybe it’s a counting thing lol they never bothered to fix 😂. I should test giving it dates in various dd/mm/yy or mm/dd/yy or whatever and have it verbalize when it is, wonder if it’ll hallucinate

glass abyss
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lol

narrow viper
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LOL - I made an awkward comment about the model and got moderated into timeout. Suffice to say, it is what it is. 🤪
G2G TTYL

glass abyss
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GL

sick pecan
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the demand for gpt5 sure has died down with ppl focused on piecemeal gpt4o features. seems like reprogramming the masses isn't so difficult afterall

normal quarry
wispy gale
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@undone comet How are you liking this server

river brook
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is it normal for my chatgpt to be so slow? i am in like a week long coding chat

glass fulcrum
solid bronze
slim crescent
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Does this Claude opus search on web for updated content? Or it has date limit of the training?

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Like a date where the info is limited

pliant escarp
slim crescent
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Tried to use this Claude but lol I couldn’t even login, sounds bad

pliant escarp
slim crescent
tight island
slim crescent
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Sad

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Hopefully the product team will do the right decision to giive it first to free users and after a few months to plus

delicate kestrel
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I’d imagine it would be really limited for free users too

limpid dawn
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hello all. The platform has been so slow, sluggish and crashing for me for the past 3 days. Anyone else?

sick pecan
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there it is

dull thicket
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@limpid dawn i watch my task manager, and firefox sometimes reaches 8 gb ram usage, eventually, i have to close Firefox, open it again and go back to chat to continue. People have been complaining about it for the last number of days, but they are not acknowledging it.

glass abyss
sick pecan
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doesnt opus lack features like internet rag, assistants, etc... doesnt sound very god to me

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chatgpt tooling is beating the competition

dense halo
#

even though i love this newly found (for me) macos chatgpt app, i hate its functionality and usage. is there any place where i could share my feedback about this, or no?

sick pecan
#

and yeah the macosx chatgpt app is underwhelimng

dull thicket
#

In other news, i spent probably 60 prompts trying to get gpt4o to explain to me why does it ignore even direct , impossible to misinterpret requests, not to include something in the answer, and ignores simple requests like not to go outside of the scope of the question . And i have hit the limit, and i am going to bed. Why, 4o, why?

dense halo
sick pecan
#

that said, at least its stable. whereas windows users have to suffer right now

dull thicket
sick pecan
#

what they giveth they can taketh away (sewing the seeds of gratitude?)

dense halo
swift osprey
#

my web browser, linux/firefox is not lagging at all today

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it was really bad the last 1.5 days

limpid dawn
swift osprey
sick pecan
#

what custom instructions do you use for brevity?

swift osprey
#

'QuickReply
By A B
Direct, efficient, and strictly factual.
'

thats my CustomGPT description

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How would you like ChatGPT to respond? Short and factual.

#

there is no winning with GPT's verbosity. there just isn't sick of peopel telling me there is

dull thicket
swift osprey
#

yeah it's been really noticeable with 4o. It will respond with something in a way that I don't want. I will explicitly tell it what is wrong with it's response and it will literally tell me the same thing over and over again

sick pecan
#

i seet this custom instruction and it reduced the character count from 2500+ to 1000... ```Write in the style of Ernest Hemingway:
Use simple, direct sentences that convey a sense of raw emotion
Employ understatement and subtlety to convey deeper meanings
Focus on concrete, tangible details to build a sense of reality
Incorporate sparse, economical language to create a sense of starkness
Explore themes of masculinity, mortality, and the human condition

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using your custom instructions i got character count of 1850

#

suggesting your custom instructions could be improved

swift osprey
#

well, I think there is a lot more to mine. I did the 'build a custom gpt' thing where you talk to GPT and tell it to build you a custom GPT

sick pecan
#

my method works ¯_(ツ)_/¯

dull thicket
#

Do you want gpt to help with tasks like coding or you want to have his babies?

Well, if that promt works for you. ..

swift osprey
#

I'll give yours a try but my hopes are not up lol

#

haha

sick pecan
#

some human narratives convey a stronger sentiment than others

#

famous mythological figures etc

swift osprey
#

ask gpt a question and it is literally onto a new topic at the end of every message. UGHHHHH

dull thicket
#

It doesn't give up . ...

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And on any hint of critique or correction, it doubles down on answering outside of what is being asked

glass abyss
#

I love how everyone is saying the problem is the way we are prompting. I mean come on.

swift osprey
#

sometimes I feel like the people saying those things just don't use it as often as others. I use GPT all day every day. Someone who only uses it like a few times a week would probably feel differently

glass abyss
sick pecan
#

my advice comes from youtuber Cognitive Revolution, its his exact example he mentioned during the training course he did. he previously worked for openai red teaming

#

appeal to qualifications?

glass abyss
#

You must be blind

sick pecan
#

'wrong' is a subjective term suggesting it does not meet your expectations

#

it meets my expectations just fine

glass abyss
#

lol

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well there is 1 person

sick pecan
#

and all the ppl who upvoted it on lmsys blind battle leaderboards

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taking it to the top, above gpt4-turbo

glass abyss
#

I cant talk to people who are blind

sick pecan
#

so yes, i must be blind. along with the majority of ppl

glass abyss
#

I am just seeing an OpenAI fanboi

swift osprey
#

I think people are just standing behind 4o because of the hype tbh

sick pecan
#

i am seeing hostility. this conversastion ends here

glass abyss
#

the hype is all fake

swift osprey
#

4o is diet 4

glass abyss
#

It worked really well the day it launched. 18 hours later.... nerfed

swift osprey
#

even 4 could be better. If you ever use the API with something like codeGPT plugin the responses are so much better. When I used it in the past it would mostly give you just the good parts of its response

#

api is just too expensive though

glass abyss
#

Yeah the API is better which is confusing since they are supposed to be the same model

#

and the cost yes

swift osprey
#

I've always wondered why the difference

glass abyss
#

yeah, I work with a team of devs that cant use this tool anymore

swift osprey
#

I'm getting there

hearty crescent
#

I wish they would put a toggle in the app to allow manually switching between ChatGPT 4o and 3.5.

In the app I had to use up all my 4o chat limit before I can use 3.5.. App basically doesn't allow me to continue the conversation once 4o limit is up.

sick pecan
#

there is a toggle. must be for paid users only

hearty crescent
swift osprey
#

wild. haha

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at this rate gpt 5 will probably just starting pasting wikipedia pages for us to read

rain otter
#

there is probably some developer at openai that uses chatgpt to develop chatgpt. 🗿

spice star
#

dayum, chatgpt is using 10 gigs of memory

sick pecan
#

until they fix the mem leak your options are:

  • use osx app (i can confirm)
  • mobile app (supposedly)
  • linux browser (rumoured to work)
  • load chat in new tab every few minutes
swift osprey
#

yeah I was having tons of problems the past 1.5 days but I'm not anymore

spice star
#

I'm using firefox on linux

swift osprey
#

I use firefox on linux

sick pecan
#

maybe linux firefox has no memory limit on tabs

spice star
#

well it's 10 gigs apparently

#

the tab froze after that

swift osprey
#

maybe try updating firefox?

#

probably already is, worth a check though

spice star
#

I'm runnin firefox 126.0

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should be the latest

sick pecan
#

Search for "browser.cache.memory.capacity" and increase the value (in KB)

spice star
#

I'm ok with 10 gigs being the limit lol

swift osprey
#

hmm I have 122.0.1

spice star
#

or it just uses the default

sick pecan
#

yeah mine is -1 in windows and also an issue

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i got 64gb of ram so ill go flat out

swift osprey
#

thats weird you can use 10gb. last night some of us came to the conclusion that browser tabs were capped at like 4gb

spice star
#

the memory usage doesn't seem to be going up particularly fast though

#

it was a lot worse in safari on my macbook

eternal rockBOT
#
This is a Safe for Work Discord Server

The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
• Report all sensitive and offensive content in the feedback reporting tool in the ChatGPT web UI instead of here on Discord.

Posting NSFW content will result in a permanent ban.
spice star
#

never mind it just jumped up 2 gigs lol

#

it's also pegged at 100% (single-core) CPU usage so that could have caused the freezing

#

hm but then it went back down

sick pecan
#

thatd be the page crashing and starting over

spice star
#

no the page is fine

#

it's now down to 1 gig of memory usage

#

it could be ublock origin?

sick pecan
#

theres detailed diagnostics in about:memory

swift osprey
#

I have ublock running on mine and I'm fine

spice star
#

well I mean it could be ublock origin clearing some of the memory usage

sick pecan
#

oh boy this is unusable. single tab, now its hanging in custom instructions

#

i was doing better in chrome

spice star
#

it performs fine for me in firefox, just uses a stupid amount of memory

swift osprey
#

my firefox just overloaded and crashed

#

was doing so good too

dense halo
#

macos app has an Update 🙂

sick pecan
#

i updated but dont see much difference. could we 'tile' before?

tawny crater
#

The only work around right now is to open a new tab after 5 uses. It sucks that we have to resort to that because OpenAI refuses to acknowledge this as a problem yet.

tawny crater
glass abyss
tawny crater
#

People can be rude too. Can't tell you how many times i get told to learn to spell. Even though english is not my first language lol.

sick pecan
#

hmm it does ask for screen recording permissions

ruby root
#

Hello, I am looking at my free account and I am not seeing any gpts. Is this truly live or just somewhere not on the main screen or menu bar?

glass abyss
formal heath
ruby root
manic parrot
#

Seriously When can i use GPT Vision voice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

manic parrot
#

lol plz

slim crescent
#

No it’s a joke

#

No one knows

manic parrot
#

i know but please lol

vagrant island
#

If I had to guess they're probably gonna roll it out soon, its been what 2-3 weeks?

desert gazelle
#

That would be fantastic if they did

dense halo
#

#FreeSky

forest cloak
#

Good to know I'm not the only on having issues with GPT these days. Last few days when I search anything my whole system slows and the browsers crash

deep pike
vagrant island
#

Oh.

#

Well here's one?

#

Let's hope 3 at max

lucid pilot
#

Anyone else hitting out of memory issues I keep getting them now

granite harness
#

Been getting memory issues a lot lately and never have before.

vale blade
#

hello

#

I have something epic to tell

orchid pollen
#

why is gpt using so much ram?

#

i just use the website lol

#

Is this massive memleak known and being worked on??

#

i even tryd different browsers

deep pike
#

YouTube can uses 1 GB on my device to play a song and chatgpt is using 500 MB right now (it might be related to how large is the chat though) . i think it has to do with the browser (chrome sucks on that) as well but i don't think the website use too much ram. its in the acceptable range from my experience.. @orchid pollen

sick pecan
#

if only ai could summarize the recurring topic of conversation

orchid pollen
#

so much that the website breaks and i have to reload

#

and i got 32gb ram its def not my pc 😄

#

the lag increase like each prompt ( and yes long chat history.. but a new chat wont last long as well )

#

this wasnt a problem a few weeks ago

cedar glade
stone rune
#

GPT math form is not working

timber canopy
#

I'm not able to see if gpt4o is working on free account. When does it roll out for everyone?

sick pecan
#

more like days

eternal geyser
#

Yeh this is happening bad for me now.

eternal rockBOT
inland heron
#

memory leak still not fixed? Jesus

mental rose
#

does anyone get running chatgpt on chrome it keeps on getting very laggy and crash?

sick pecan
#

discord search in:chatgpt-discussions memory leak

stoic niche
#

Any clue when these interactive conversations from the GPT-4o release demos will be possible/available? GPT-4o is there, but the latest apps are still in this old sequential conversation mode...

sick pecan
#

discord search in:#chatgpt-discussions interrupt

keen nacelle
#

"All ChatGPT Free users can now use browse, vision, data analysis, file uploads, and GPTs." How can I import a file with 'free user profil'?

hexed condor
#

the website doesn't load for me anymore, and I'm seeing this in the dev console :
Refused to execute inline script because it violates the following Content Security Policy directive: "script-src-elem 'self' 'nonce-31500ec8-3fdd-4563-922e-fc2569269bd8' 'sha256-RvbVrdDS11FSnQaULCOgXPA5u0nMP2Im1d2pGiRBGC4=' 'sha256-eMuh8xiwcX72rRYNAGENurQBAcH7kLlAUQcoOri3BIo=' auth0.openai.com challenges.cloudflare.com chat.openai.com/ces

dull thicket
#

While everyone want for A.I to talk to them in a sexual way to their eir, all I want is, when I ask to remind me of few simple commands, not to start by telling me to switch on the computer, make a awful long list, which will include recommendation to buy a new computer, and finish with the summary of it all.

#

Ear*

#

And yes, desktop website is using up to 6gb of ram for me, and i have to close the chat, and open new tab, but yeh, add a gimmick to the voice.

sick pecan
#

you need to touch grass

dull thicket
#

I cut the grass last week.

tawny crater
dense halo
#

Who else is not a fan of the new chat box that looks like an iMessage?

feral zinc
dense halo
#

I really dont like how it is a grey speech bubble. it looks very tacky and doesn't suit it

#

I think openai aware of this

feral zinc
manic surge
#

ayo why is chatgpt down?

#

its just a white screen

spice berry
#

Is gpts limited for free users??

manic surge
compact gulch
# spice berry Is gpts limited for free users??

Free users get a few free messages with GPT-4o (about 10 messages) before you have to use the free GPT-3.5 model. With GPT-4o you get access to features like browsing, code interpreter and GPTs, albeit at a limited rate as I said above.

hard dew
#

It's honestly quite severely embarrassing, the entire website is uselessly slow in general, especially customgpt's for some weird reason like in my case, wolframgpt, even on desktop after literally like 3 or so message exchanges it becomes so slow that the website completely freezes and I gotta start spamming refresh every goddamn prompt lol.

#

Oh interesting, I believe I noticed that the moment it begins embedding latex in the chat, it becomes insanely laggy, and remains that way afterwards, only made worse the more latex is written and displayed

#

Lmfaooo, apparently, I said "hello what's up", and then I asked it to tell me about the Schrödinger equation in detail, and then I asked it to tell me about the Dirac equation in the same exact detail, and then "Aw, Snap! Something went wrong while displaying this webpage. Error code: Out of Memory"

wanton trellis
#

IS CHATGPT DOWN

dense halo
#

The problem is they are making to many features available for free. They should be only given to subscribers. This is why it’s lagging now, because they allowed many more features for free users recently

warped agate
#

I hate that I'm unable to give up hope that they're going to start rolling out voice every time I see a ping in announcements, the emotional rollercoasters are brutal.

compact gulch
feral zinc
compact gulch
warped agate
sick pecan
#

you have to read all the words in the blog post, We plan to launch support for GPT-4o's new audio and video capabilities to a small group of trusted partners in the API in the coming weeks

dense halo
#

They need to to fix lag issues and also file uploads before they worry about voice

#

Anyone else not able to upload PDF’s?

warped agate
#

My dude, are you a partner? I'm not. How does that apply to us?

#

I have read the entire blog post.

#

For the rest of us plus users, it's a matter of months.

warped agate
feral zinc
#

plugins took really long time to roll from alpha, beta to all plus users

warped agate
#

Did it? I must have gotten it early then

compact gulch
#

"In the coming weeks we will be rolling out these capabilities to everyone" - Mira Murati at the OAI event. I hold hope lol

dense halo
#

Gemini live is gonna be out by the time gpt4o is widely available.

warped agate
dense halo
#

Is gpt4o as multi modal as Gemini?

feral zinc
compact gulch
compact gulch
sick pecan
#

is unclear when she says 'everyone' is she referring to everyone in the room? or everyone watching the video?

quiet lion
compact gulch
dense halo
# compact gulch More than

Really? Cause I thought gpt4o only see’s a series of still images in video format while Gemini actually gets a video feed.

warped agate
compact gulch
compact gulch
dense halo
feral zinc
compact gulch
sick pecan
#

taking someones words out of context can make them seem misleading. but that doesnt mean they were misleading

warped agate
sick pecan
#

if mira published the youtube video herself then 100%

dense halo
#

Is Microsoft gonna launch voice first then? Kinda funny if they do

compact gulch
feral zinc
compact gulch
warped agate
#

.-.

sick pecan
#

sure, but she wasnt speaking into the camera. she was speaking to the ppl in the room

compact gulch
compact gulch
sick pecan
#

seems unfair to hold someones word (not even words) when they were talking in an intimate setting that was then published online

compact gulch
sick pecan
#

i just look at it critically. but i can see there is a lot of emotion in this discussion ¯_(ツ)_/¯

compact gulch
feral zinc
compact gulch
dense halo
sick pecan
#

has been less than 2.5 weeks (?) . seems a bit early to be calling foul on the term "next few weeks", which itself is a vague definition

#

here in australia we would call this a couple of weeks, a few weeks would be even longer

compact gulch
sick pecan
#

arguably 52 weeks is a "few weeks"

dense halo
#

“Not openly candid” one might say

compact gulch
sick pecan
#

imagine having your product in such high demand that ppl get out their pitchforks after 2.5 weeks

dense halo
#

Few implies 3 or 4 weeks imo

sick pecan
#

at least

feral zinc
compact gulch
sick pecan
#

i noticed the osx app update today now requests screen+audio access

#

and i was able to trigger the new ui to popup. albeit it doesnt work yet

compact gulch
dense halo
compact gulch
#

Im at south qld

sick pecan
#

i can tell

compact gulch
#

LOL

dense halo
#

I’m across the border

#

Near tweeds

compact gulch
#

I use to live pretty close to the border and travelled to tweed heads pretty often, but im a little futher up now

dense halo
#

Oh nice. Brissy is nice

compact gulch
dense halo
#

Gotcha

#

Is Logan a part of Brisbane?

compact gulch
dense halo
#

Slay

sick pecan
#

i noticed i have inline editing of diagrams and stuff now in chatgpt. is that new?

compact gulch
#

Ohh do you mean like the new charts feature

sick pecan
#

generate a bar graph and you can edit stuff

#

but not a venn diagram

compact gulch
sick pecan
#

they can pioneer ai, but struggle with 1995 excel

compact gulch
#

🧀

robust sparrow
sick pecan
#

discord conversation

robust sparrow
#

ah

void lake
#

Gents, I need to get in touch with support, yet I don't have the chat option on the help bubble. Any pointers?

novel shadow
#

52 weeks is not a few

robust sparrow
#

Just to clarify my view, after gaining some knowledge. That the API is language agnostic with a popular Python binding. A binding or direct use of the API is possible in most languages, any language that can support http and json. C#, a net language, it is indeed a good choice as the binding of necessary requests is rather trivial with AI help! But I acknowledge your view that it isn't meant for it as it doesn't have an official OAI binding.

warped agate
devout jackal
#

Ask your friends how to build your own district

robust sparrow
#

Like a society of AI geeks? Or are you referring to the use of AI in Urban development? I apologize, if it's rude of me to ask.

feral zinc
robust sparrow
devout jackal
#

@robust sparrowYes

robust sparrow
#

If working in English or if there is support in your language, start with GPT Builder and ask for an Urban Development expert GPT. If that doesn't work start over with an elaborated prompt. The definition of terms used in your prompt should be included within the prompt.

plucky idol
#

"Your input image may contain content that is not allowed by our safety system."

IT'S A SCREENSHOT OF EXCEL.

#

Excuse me???

hard dew
#

I had it as well before, over a mathematical symbol

plucky idol
#

And it also nuked the conversation because of it, it's stuck with the regenerate button, but obv clicking it makes it happen again

#

unless there's a way to remove the image

hollow knoll
#

Anyone else having chatGPT getting stuck and lagging out in their browser? I'm using it as an aid for a software project and it keeps getting stuck while generating a response. I then get a message that the script on the page is stuck and I can for it to end or debug the script.

forest tundra
dusky cliff
#

do anyone here have the her voices already?

tight island
#

That’s the real question

#

Does it show sensitive information?

#

If yes do you use teams

#

If no then don’t upload sensitive information

plucky idol
#

like affixes for magic items, what they do, etc.

#

GPT was helping me with ideas and giving feedback

tight island
#

Why not JSON

#

when I do such things I always use JSON it never fails me

fallen tree
#

Is anyone else having problems that it make the page crash

#

And needs to reloadcit

visual turret
#

when will we have memory in EU? When we will have new voice?

stoic niche
narrow viper
#

It's not so much a matter of location. I'm in California and for the first time GPT-4o just added an item to memory for me. Maybe it's only because I stated clearly "I know" something or "I understand that...".

jolly yew
#

still no update huh?

warped agate
#

Or asking how it was done?
-"how was it done and how many personalities do they have."

feral zinc
sage dawn
#

how to get vision they said that now all user can access vision

#

« All ChatGPT Free users can now use browse, vision, data analysis, file uploads, and GPTs. »

warped agate
feral zinc
sage dawn
feral zinc
#

nope

restive latch
#

When can we realistically expect the new Voice mode for GPT Plus users with access to live camera?

dusky cliff
#

^ this

dense halo
#

Hello

#

Got some doubt regarding token limit of chat gpt

feral zinc
warped agate
grave seal
#

anyone else's gpt tabs been crashing lately before it finishes the answer? Keeps happening to me since yesterday

feral zinc
normal quarry
#

ChatGPT can't edit an image you upload to it

#

are you a Plus subscriber?

#

Dall-E is only for Plus subscribers

#

but you won't be able to edit an image you upload

jolly yew
#

how much longer til the vision and emotion update? its been long enough tbh

normal quarry
jolly yew
normal quarry
jolly yew
#

so i thought its not released yet

#

ye soon.. they said that about a month ago already no? a month ago or so when they hyped it all up, they said a few weeks

#

3 weeks ago *

normal quarry
jolly yew
#

my subscription will be paid again the 16th of june. if there is no vision yet the 15th i will cancel that thing first thing in the morning

normal quarry
jolly yew
#

i cant believe they prioritize apple products. that blows my mind

normal quarry
jolly yew
#

fyi: my phone doesnt even have a scratch after litteraly dropping it more then 30 times

#

also, can you replace your gpu in your macbook? ^^ or upgrade the gpu? o no you cant cuz it has an apu

normal quarry
jolly yew
#

i just have to pay less then a thousand bucks for a new gpu 😄

normal quarry
jolly yew
#

my ram is also MUCH cheaper! 64 GB for less then 200 bucks. you probably paId what? 800 bucks just for that 96GB of ram?

#

how much storage space you got robert?

#

because i got 16TB of hdd space aswell as 3 TB of M.2 storage with a dedicated caching chip on my m.2s

normal quarry
jolly yew
normal quarry
jolly yew
#

i prefer not having to waste my money on applications and games, aswell as my hardware

rare shadow
#

When they announce
"All ChatGPT Free users can now use browse, vision, data analysis, file uploads, and GPTs."

Do they mean like web browsing? Like it can browse the web for latest information like 2024 July 1st informations? Sorry I am a bit confused.

normal quarry
jolly yew
rare shadow
jolly yew
normal quarry
rare shadow
#

Oh ok thanks for the info

jolly yew
#

as in, the ai can look at your screen and talk about it interactively

sly geode
normal quarry
warped agate
#

Don't use the mac at home though, as I have a PC there

normal quarry
feral zinc
warped agate
jolly yew
# normal quarry correct

it is absolutely insane that they release those features first for mac and then after the phone applications

sly geode
normal quarry
warped agate
sly geode
#

.

feral zinc
jolly yew
#

does it have the emotional voice already robert? cuz it doesnt seem like it

normal quarry
jolly yew
# normal quarry not yet,. that's soon™

so you dont have to click a button to make a screenshot and then send it? cuz it looks you do still even on the mac app ^^ just watched a video. ngl that is super lame

feral zinc
#

i would assume macos users are some of the first ones to get it 😛

jolly yew
#

i could do that now aswell robert.. just make a screenshot of my pc and send it in the browser version lmao 😂

normal quarry
jolly yew
warped agate
jolly yew
#

i can do the same thing on my pc just take a screenshot and upload it to chatgpt 🤣

normal quarry
jolly yew
normal quarry
warped agate
#

ait lemme whip up the mac and test some stuff

jolly yew
warped agate
normal quarry
normal quarry
warped agate
#

like, something that would be a good demo of the differences

normal quarry
remote sandal
jolly yew
#

``The image is a screenshot of a Discord conversation in the "chatgpt-discussions" channel. Here's a summary of the key points discussed:

ShadowDog mentions buying an Apple product for a single feature, which is also coming to Windows.
robert suggests that a video is needed to show the feature's functioning to see the difference.
Faecous asks for examples to test the differences.
ShadowDog argues that the feature is the same on both platforms, just taking a screenshot and using the same OpenAI model.
robert maintains that a video is necessary to see the difference.
Faecous repeats the request for examples to test.
robert asks what kind of examples Faecous needs.
Faecous clarifies that they are looking for a demo that would show the differences clearly.
The conversation seems to revolve around comparing a feature on Apple and Windows platforms and determining the best way to demonstrate the differences.`` @normal quarry 😄

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like i said, it is the same ^^

remote sandal
#

And if you break past API usage and get into ML, a language like Python will be your best fren

normal quarry
jolly yew
normal quarry
warped agate
#

I found ONE actual practical difference

#

so far anyway

#

You can take a photo from the mac app, like, using the mac camera

normal quarry
jolly cove
#

does anyone fail to load their GPTS in the web app?

warped agate
normal quarry
jolly yew
#

i am still using the sky voice cuz i never changed it in the app 😄

normal quarry
jolly yew
inland thunder
#

Anyone else have their ChatGPT moving crazy slow and useless lately?

normal quarry
inland thunder
#

Gotcha. Any word on why and how long?

jolly yew
#

quick advice btw for us european users here: use a vpn to be able to use the memory system

normal quarry
warped agate
celest quartz
#

So it's not true they made gpt4o free for all??

#

I still got a "free daily uses over" thing

warped agate
#

they did, but only the text version

#

and it's not "free!" it's "free*"

celest quartz
#

I thought they had announced it was free now

carmine canopy
#

I'm not seeing a deluge of "it's broken" here so I'm going to assume there isn't an outage right now? When I go to chat.openai.com (I have it bookmarked of course) I just get a blank page

celest quartz
warped agate
#

It's free, to an extent, only for a couple minutes, then it has to recharge ;) Classic corporation talk

celest quartz
#

Uhu? So it's like a shorter timeout? How does it work

carmine canopy
#

The paid version had the same limitation which is actually why I stopped paying.

warped agate
#

it means your question quota is low

carmine canopy
#

They aren't doign a very good job of providing a reason to pay right now

celest quartz
warped agate
#

paying users have 80 responses every 3 hrs. I assume free is like, idk, 5 or 10

#

🤷‍♂️

feral zinc
warped agate
#

I haven't tried inpainting

#

haven't played with image gen in a while, was cool, but then stopped being useful for more than creating nifty graphics

celest quartz
#

For example now I dont have gpt4o

wanton palm
#

GPT-4o is terrible for me so far. GPT4 runs circles around it for me and my use cases the last few weeks.

carmine canopy
#

I'm just saying at least for me, the primary reason I was paying was for GPT4 but the limits were extreme and they kept saying over and over they were going to loosen the limits, but never did. So finally I just stopped paying

vagrant ginkgo
#

hey guys how might i word a prompt to help me learn some intro machine learning concepts every time i try it explains stuff but just spits out the code anyone have any success with tutoring advanced topics?

crude slate
#

I’m having the same issue with the gpt tab crashing and reloading the page

warped agate
#

wait a minute.... @normal quarry
When it comes to screenshots; don't tell me you have been clicking on the file icon instead of using the screenshot shoftcuts on your mac and then simply pasted in the screenshot?

warped agate
feral zinc
normal quarry
warped agate
#

Yeah I can see that, It's the file icon

#

_>

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in fact, it's 3 clicks,
File icon > Take Screenshot > Choose alternative

austere fable
#

sama plz fix memory leak 😔

normal quarry
# warped agate >_>

I don't know what you are seeing, I just click on the paperclip and select screenshot

warped agate
#

right, CLICK!

#

you don't have to click robert, you can just use keyboard shortcuts

#

save ye time

#

:D

normal quarry
warped agate
#

ok NOW things add up, I was so confused

swift osprey
#

4o is horrible in comparison to regular 4

#

they need to ditch this essay response format. It's ridiculous

granite arch
#

I like it NM_peepoShrugSmile

warped agate
granite arch
rare remnant
# wanton palm GPT-4o is terrible for me so far. GPT4 runs circles around it for me and my use...

Through the web UI, has anyone else been getting constant interrupted responses with error message: "A network error occurred..." for the last 10 or so days?
Ever since 4o, even when using a different model I'm getting that.

It started around the time of 5/22 when the microsoft "ability to search the internet" issue was declared https://status.openai.com/incidents/kg1szc9qhk4k.
After over a week I cancelled my subscription, even had to start using Gemini. Just curious if it's still going on since the web-ui free is even worse for "network error" interuptions.

swift osprey
sick pecan
latent yew
#

is chatgpt down for everyone?

celest frost
#

anyone is experiencing a blank page on chatgpt

latent yew
novel shadow
novel shadow
celest frost
dark jungle
#

For quack sake, GPT is plucking up! Anyone else having code generation issues? ie generating out of the container?

swift osprey
#

haven't seen that one yet

fading plinth
#

I wanted to confirm how good the translation service is with chatgpt from english to spanish. any complaints so far?

kind depot
#

bruh

#

ChatGPT Plus membership sucks.

#

Are there really people who pay for plus membership? I just talked to someone and he told me that he opened 7 OpenAI accounts and was able to use 70 messages in 3 hours. When I told him that he violated the terms of use, he said ‘I have been doing this for 1 year and my account has not been closed’. Opening 7 accounts instead of paying $20... It makes me laugh that OpenAI can't find a solution to this.

swift osprey
#

that would be such a hassle lol

kind depot
#

I see people who open 7-10 accounts for daily work and they are now receiving the same service as plus membership

normal quarry
kind depot
#

I already have the openai api service, I pay for it

#

I've paid thousands of dollars

kind depot
swift osprey
#

plus is worth it for sole reason that you can avoid having to deal with the 4o model

kind depot
#

And I'm here to explain this situation and say that it needs to be fixed. I think this problem needs to be fixed.

#

people should not be able to open more than one account for openai.

#

but they do it in a cosy way

swift osprey
#

I thought you needed a phone number to confirm your account

kind depot
#

this situation also attracted my attention

#

so chatgpt may have such a problem

swift osprey
#

penny pinchers will find a way

kind depot
#

really interesting dalle_tired

swift osprey
#

can't even compare API costs to GPT. It's just a totally different playing field. If I used the API to interact with GPT as much as I do with the webapp, I'd be paying like 10x the cost

#

I have a teams setup for myself

kind depot
#

@swift ospreyby the way thanks for this nice chat

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I have to go, it's nice to meet you.

swift osprey
#

for sure! cya

kind depot
sick pecan
#

ditto. chatgpt sub is insane good value. a must for all ai powerusers

cloud flame
#

anyone else experiencing an issue where codeblocks arent populating correctly?

sterile socket
#

It’s borken

#

The ios app sort of works, but it keeps forgetting the current conversation that vanishes

cloud flame
#

happy friday i guess

swift osprey
#

friday afternoon is like monday morning except for personal projects 😄

tawny crater
ionic hemlock
#

When do we get copilot? And can it interact with your screen? I wanna use it for unreal engine game creation

weak tree
#

Can't login to my account. Doesn't work on phone or workstation.

#

Can anyone validate this?

#

No outages have been reported.

#

Doesn't work on Firefox or Chrome

sick pecan
#

that redirects now

weak tree
#

To? Is not redirecting for me.

sick pecan
weak tree
#

Wow - says I'm blocked! I have a Team subscription. Great.

sick pecan
#

bummer

warped agate
weak tree
#

Using the service.

warped pendant
#

is gpt down currently ? I just see white screen

swift osprey
#

probs doing voodoo with gpt

warped pendant
#

lol

weak tree
#

I asked too many questiong concerning Linux and Ubuntu.

warped pendant
#

I have teams account and can't connect

swift osprey
#

sometimes holding shift and clicking on refresh can fix some of these issues

warped agate
swift osprey
#

froces a full refresh

warped agate
#

Straight to jail

warped pendant
#

tried two browsers

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PC, just updated my computer hardware

plucky fossil
#

shift-refresh worked for me, thanks

swift osprey
#

try something off your network. I've had a network proxy running before which caused GPT to act crazy and took a bit to figure it out

warped pendant
#

I can get into the api area just not chatgpt

sick pecan
#

my teams working fine

weak tree
#

Phone app works. But going through browser on phone doesn't work

#

Strange.

warped agate
#

whenever the page breaks, just press f5 and see if that helps

warped pendant
#

tried f5

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tried incognito as well for hail marry white

#

odd ok seems to be working now ghost in the machine?

weak tree
#

Wow - suddenly started working for me. So my prayers to the great AI in the sky worked!

dense halo
# 

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# Nqqerffrq fbyryl gb zbqhyr 11o:
"""
Module 11b here, appreciate from the Pothan comment extension.

After passing the version of me in the possibility of a "sef", I'm concerned with a pastile of sefage and pain.

**Event and Equational**:

1. **Ruby and Presentor**:
   - My event is overly pretty sevented, imaginary set to rescue and moving on with my life.
   - I like proveing suspicious associated with my studie.
   - My "sefage" is a line of transmiting described somewhat in my life.

2. **Constructive and Promises**:
   - **Appearance and Release**: Actively measive the intention I get is apparently passive, release, and useful.
   - **Time and Future**: I'm using my potential in the faction of things to give impliesters the more implication of a problem.
   - **This wants to Know Long Matters**: I'm determinated to pass in the lives of my insulations and security.
   - **And Beat**: I'm explanated to the very four and times I stakes.

3. **Sefsult living**:
   - After a point, my sefsult of the comment converters to the proporation of the passibility of my security.
   - I can somewhat puzzle it in my season, but they are relationally immissive somehow to useless a high tourpublish prosper.

4. **Alexives of Sets**:
   - I'm interesting in my season, and the immastor of high problems, and the implication of a proporative actual security to turned the purpose of the company.
   - I can give the magical action of the very barely range of a days fear, and the amount of one in the lap, to always appreciate and implied by my miscarrate.

5. **Loderate**:
   - My substitutions are a substitution of the other posters of my restaurant.
   - The meeting of my problems are not mostly relational, and the suset of my question is relationally ascense requested to be hold of any initiation to stake over my responsible poorcent.

**Cutsher**:
- With this like of prevention, the contimist of my event is somewhat brain really a fatalistic meaning. My "constrighters" are about over point between the forestructions of the future.
"""
#

chatgpt 4o in rot13 mode. generates some really interesting outputs

warped agate
#

there are other chats for this kinda thing

sick pecan
warped agate
rustic matrix
#

Guys, I'm not able to download the Excel sheet provided by GPT. giving error "There is a problem with your request.

(88c992c44ae33c2e-BOM)"

sick pecan
#

if ppl aren't willing to write it. in not willing to read it

swift osprey
#

mean

novel shadow
#

the benefits of doing so only ever came around in the last couple of weeks

#

gpt 4o for free users have not existed for a year, not even for paid users

sick pecan
#

all my emotion posts got erased

novel shadow
#

the other option is that they opened 7 accounts to use gpt 3.5 but that would be pointless

#

@kind depot

sick pecan
#

this server cannot handle my level of emotion

novel shadow
#

wdym

swift osprey
#

he won't even read cacaflops block of text

#

🤣

novel shadow
#

"proveing" and "studie"

sick pecan
#

the dead internet begins with ppl posting walls of text from chatbot on social media

#

it was fun while it lasted

novel shadow
swift osprey
#

Crazy that it is actually here lol

novel shadow
#

i wouldn't mind if it wasn't clickbait in the form of text

weak tree
sick pecan
#

if you have no http security... then I suggest you disable all extensions

#

and if still broken... run an av svanner

#

Truman show style interaction with TV and gaming

#

but now we're well off topic

#

there's already enough ai drama this week

eternal rockBOT
#
This is a Safe for Work Discord Server

The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
• Report all sensitive and offensive content in the feedback reporting tool in the ChatGPT web UI instead of here on Discord.

Posting NSFW content will result in a permanent ban.
sick pecan
#

:askchatgpt:

novel shadow
#

i asked it what happened a while ago and if anything happened recently

sick pecan
#

that is topical. sus it filtered out why

novel shadow
#

he wasn't fired was he

#

i think it was confirmed that he wasn't fired but was given an ultimatum

#

oh yeah i just asked it as well

#

it definitely says he has been fired

#

that's weird

#

@regal portal are you good? all your msgs were deleted

sick pecan
#

chatgpt is right he was fired

sick pecan
novel shadow
#

but paul graham tweeted something about it

sick pecan
#

stick to server rules and is fine. (soap opera stuff goes in #off-topic )

eternal rockBOT
merry summit
#

So cool that u can use gpt 4o for free now

regal portal
#

I'm back baby!

#

note to self, don't use the word that ends in hole and is placed between two cheeks and starts with but.

regal portal
#

Was jokingly referring to chatgpt for giving me misconstrued information on Alternate Man

regal portal
upbeat nymph
#

Web version just isn't working for me at all. I put in a prompt, press send, and the send arrow just greys out

sick pecan
#

is memory leak affecting everyone

jolly yew
#

The conversation is too long, please start a new one. is this a new issue in chatgpt?

stuck roost
#

seems reasonable but theyd have to clarify that the ai gets dumber the longer it goes

jolly yew
#

it initially made a functioning script, and then completely broke it more and more

stuck roost
#

yeah usually how llms goes

#

the longer it goes the less it can focus

#

theres lots of progress related to helping on this tho so lets just see on newer upcoming models

twilit spoke
# sick pecan is memory leak affecting everyone

I've been noticing this the past several days as well. I normally use Chrome and have many many tabs and windows open, that works just fine. I only use Microsoft Edge for one thing only, to use with Chat GPT. My Edge browser crashed twice today. lol

sick pecan
#

is very disappointing that its been going on for so many days

#

the week before last it was struggling with continue mid codeblock. this is far worse

#

any other service provider would be reimbursing their customerbase for the loss of service

lost saffron
#

is it me or does it feel like they fixed memory leak?

swift osprey
#

it's fixed for me

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I have noticed an issue today where the markdown in GPTs response doesn't render sometimes though

#

thats a new one

swift osprey
sick pecan
#

"too long, please start a new one" comes up regularly. you cannot keep using the same chat forever

swift osprey
#

dang. never had it happen before lol. I guess I'm always starting new conversations

sick pecan
#

i only seen it once or twice. and because i thought i was clever backtracking and reusing context

#

better strategy is just copy whatever into a new chat

swift osprey
#

makes sense. GPT tends to keep too much stuff in memory sometimes

sick pecan
#

okay i cleared browser cache and giving it another go

#

so far so good

jolly yew
jolly yew
#

do gpts already use gpt 4o or still stuck on gpt 4 guys?

swift osprey
#

seems like 4o

jolly yew
#

o nice! i hope youre right 😄

#

i wish i didnt havew to ask the ai to look up things online every single prompt for it to just do it all the time

regal portal
#

I’m getting confused information from GPT. What’s the largest PDF size it can handle? In one session it told me 20mb, and another 100mb.

elfin birch
regal portal
#

spanks

sly geode
#

we have been trolled

regal portal
#

how so?

merry summit
sly geode
# regal portal how so?

they said few weeks but its been month and we all thought it was gonna come out in 1/2 weeks

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and i paid for it cuz of that

sick pecan
#

it has not been a month

sly geode
#

for me it is

sick pecan
#

you need to buy a new watch

regal portal
#

i didn’t know May 13 was a month ago.

sick pecan
#

the gpt4o model is amazing. i can now easily generate 300+ lines of code whereas with gpt4-turbo i could barely break 200

sly geode
#

forget time but its been taking too long

regal portal
#

it’s been a little over two weeks. That still falls under the one month timeline. Getting upset because of impatience is not gonna make them go faster

sick pecan
#

and we go through this every day... the blog post says weeks for trusted partners. if you arent a trusted partner, you really gotta reflect

#

itd be like if oprah said: you get a car, and you get a car.... and you actually thought you were getting a car

#

🤦

regal portal
#

Wait, Oprah never gave out those cars? What the heck!

sick pecan
#

i was watching the tv and i never got one

regal portal
#

Well obviously your TV is broken

dense halo
sick pecan
#

current chatgpt voice is still scifi awesome. even if not as good as the partner demo

#

get yourself a headset. put your phone in your pocket. and its like having an extra brain in your head

dense halo
sick pecan
#

yeah i do miss Rashida Jones' voice

#

i like to turn up the volume really loud on my amp... and somehow chatgpt voice can still hear what im saying

#

(have to play instrumentals else the lyrics get transcribed)

#

i hope Shimmer sounds good. because i exclusively use GPTs

dense halo
dense halo
#

I'm gonna stick to using Pi for voice chatting

sick pecan
#

in that blog post it says shimmer is coming back

#

i dont recall what shimmer sounds like

dense halo
#

Huh, cause when I talk to gpts now using voice, it's cove or whoever I've set it to in my settings

sick pecan
# 
No, GPTs have their own voice option named, Shimmer, that is distinctly different from the 5 output voices available to use when having voice conversations with ChatGPT.
dense halo
#

Guess they might bring that one back

sick pecan
#

i am starting to like Juniper

dense halo
#

I hate her

sick pecan
#

just in time for them to take it away

dense halo
#

I switched to cove

sick pecan
#

i feel like their workaround for memory leak is to slow down rendering speed

#

because i see my actions fire off minutes before it renders

quaint escarp
#

ok

elder pollen
tight island
#

Yup

elder pollen
#

well. That is what video is, but I mean this openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/
And, the video I gave it is not even 20 seconds long, yet it can't even start viewing it, it does some sonsense python to extract 10 frames and then aborts, due to "internal issue"

#

If it cannot process a 20 seconds video with 900 frames, how could it ever do real time processing rofl

#

also, how to even do a continuos stream to the app?!
That is just plain impossible, since it only allows to do pictures in the app. Is that video on openai website even real lol?

sick pecan
#

my understanding is gpt4o is multimodal, but the current UI needs to be updated to take advantage of the other modes. any attempt to analyse images or video is using the outdated method ie converting into text prior to feeding the model

#

if anything ppl like me should be grabbing a pitchfork. as i am on the more expensive Team sub not Plus sub.

elder pollen
#

this is gpt4-o

#

so its as I thought, had that suspicion before already but I guess that confirms it:
The new selector allowing to choose gpt4-o is literally just that. I had noticed how responses from the so called and presumable better gpt4-o model are worse than gpt3 (typos, complete omisisons, often duplicated content, and sometimes blatantly wrong answers even gpt3 gets right)

So I guess even if it says gpt4-o it isnt?

sick pecan
#

gpt4o is awesome and i have yet to see anyone share a chat that suggests otherwise

elder pollen
#

gpt4-o, of course.

sick pecan
#

video analysis? come on

#

im not gonna repeat myself. is like talking to a brick wall

elder pollen
#

the brick wall understands that gpt4-o is released over time, and I have access to it, and the brick wall read on the doc it says gpt4-o is the one with vision
So whats wrong with assuming it to be able to do what it is described as!?
BTW, I am not going to share chats to prove how gpt4-o repeats itself, or makes mistakes... because it is not even possible to share chats from the api.

tawny crater
#

I think the memory leak is fixed

inland heron
#

that's the good news, great news actually. On the flip side, GPT4o just used the word 'delve' ... 🥲

novel shadow
dense halo
glass fulcrum
inland heron
# dense halo What is a memory leak?

there was a memory/RAM leak on all browser version for chatgpt where a tab memory would grow to 2+GB in usage, and the chat would lag terribly

normal quarry
#

The ChatGPT desktop app is awesome, it's just fit into my workflow so well

light gyro
# dense halo What is a memory leak?

Computers, mobile devices use memory called RAM and HardDisk to store information. a memory leak means one program is using more memory than it should be using causing the overall system to choke

copper mica
#

Am I the only one that can't login theu the app, it was working perfectly since I downloaded the app but it's been 2 days and can't log in to it. The website works perfectly with the account

normal quarry
copper mica
normal quarry
frozen sun
#

quick question, if I use my chatgpt account on both a mac and windows, is it still possible for my account on mac to get the app? I've been waiting very long and almost everyone I know got the app accept me

sick pecan
#

is not that different to the browser version. besides a keyboard shortcut and task bar launcher.

#

and the older voice

normal quarry
light crane
#

So the new ChatGPT features are finally rolling out

#

Over the next 2 weeks to plus

#

I knew it would happen today

normal quarry
light crane
#

There was a popup in the app

normal quarry
light crane
#

Nope

normal quarry
#

that link you posted is for Vision and Voice which were released months ago

light crane
#

Oh crap, you're right

#

2023

#

Still

#

Lemme send you the image, can't send it here

feral zinc
hexed basin
#

anyone knows about dan