chatgpt-discussions

[autumn fog]

Oh when did the voice thingy was added
It's good it's just sometimes I think it messes up the prononciations 🤔

[willow hinge]

You have access to the OpenAI form AFTER you join Azure. And the OpenAI credits they give you work on OpenAI's API

[chilly fossil]

hello I need help. I was chatting with gpt 4 (Dall e) and when my maximum of 40 messages hit I accidentally degraded my chat to 3.5 again. is it possible to return it to 4?

My limit resets in about 2 hours from now

[muted kayak]

May I ask, is ChatGPT fully working for you right now? It didn't load any of my custon GPTs and the history is gone, too

[chilly fossil]

ye it is fully working for me

[muted kayak]

k thank you, I will mail the support

[chilly fossil]

if someone can tell me I would appreciate

[muted kayak]

If I am not wrong you could use the API and pay for it?

[chilly fossil]

what do you mean? I pay already for gpt 4

[muted kayak]

Yes but if you need more you can access the api but this is not free

[chilly fossil]

ooh no I dont need more, do you know if I can return the chat to gpt 4 tho? later when my limit resets

[gentle bronze]

as far as I know, once you are change the model to 3.5, there's no way to change the model back to GPT4 in the same chat instance

[maiden fractal]

Once you accepted to switch 4 to 3.5 you can't turn it back

You can copy paste the whole convo into a mew chat

[chilly fossil]

maannn I learned the chat so much information....

[chilly fossil]

will it learn the pictures again too?

dall e I mean

[gentle bronze]

you can ask the model to give you a transcript of the chat and use it in the next chat instance

[maiden fractal]

You have to start over

[chilly fossil]

so I have to chat him this?

[gentle bronze]

yes, ask to give you a summary or a transcript

[chilly fossil]

rip my time, thanks for the answer

[chilly fossil]

allright I will do that, I hope it works. you too thanks for the answer

anywhere I can give tips to the site then? would be key to be able to return it to 4

since I did it by accident and it was easy to do

[maiden fractal]

I means they give you a pop up warning if you click to switch you agreed

[grand wave]

What's the best way to learn Ai?

[gentle bronze]

learn to code, learn math, concepts from machine and deep learning, maybe neuronal networks, biology

[spice star]

you'll have to be more specific

[grand wave]

Like say if i learn Python and the Math aspects where would i go from there?

[spice star]

where do you want to go?

[grand wave]

Is it just between machine learning and deep learning?

[gentle bronze]

you need both

also, if you have python skills, tensorflow, pytorch, keras would be also good to know

[grand wave]

oh there's also Natural language processing

i see

[gentle bronze]

create your own NLP

[grand wave]

i see

[arctic anchor]

If someone creates a model using the GPTs upgrade feature, then downgrades, what happens to that model? Is there a way to download the model?

[sleek gust]

Nope it's all in the CustomGPT creation page and it's managed by the creator of the custom GPT

[arctic anchor]

In other words, I would need to pay indefinitely in order to share the model? What about for an open source project?

[sleek gust]

At the moment, it's exlusive for Plus subscribers only. this may change in the future but i'm not a OpenAI employee 😅

[arctic anchor]

ok, thank you for helping

[sleek gust]

Also it's the same model for all CustomGPT's. they can be heavily customizable. but the model is the same for all of them.
only ChatGPT offers this, personally i think it's very cool.
I hope other companies offers this like Gemini etc

[arctic anchor]

Its a market making feature

[gentle bronze]

You can use a simple and not so robust Custom Copilot GPT or go the $200/month Copilot Studio version

so the ChatGTP+ version, to be honest, you get a lot for the price of plus sub

[arctic anchor]

Oh!

I'm interested to see how far I get on free

[gentle bronze]

copilot custom gpt is same price as chatgpt+

[arctic anchor]

oh

[gentle bronze]

you lose all the ADA and Actions offered with plus

[inner beacon]

Is anyone else having a problem of ChatGPT randomly forgetting responses its given, as in I will have a response, I will reload the page, then it will say "error giving response" and offer to regenerate

[light rampart]

Hi Everyone.. based on my experience using chatgpt, its not offering long term memory. any thoughts on this?

[gritty plover]

Yeah sometimes

[pallid tulip]

As an advocate for OpenAI, basically from the beginning through the thick and thin, not that it's taken any effort on my part just explaining how I feel about things thus far, I'm sort of annoyed with how stupefied and watered down ChadGBT has become. It's to the point of almost not being acceptable by me. FYI

you get it

Chew on that y’all ttyl

You make the feel and find out yo self

Think

Anyways

In case you are using your brain, I’ll help you. It was a typo. Bye for now

I mentioned it to consider it. You know what I meant

[eternal rock]

`` Server Tip: ``

Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!

[pallid tulip]

It’s very clear in a number of ways that ChatGPT is cheapified

1. Forgetfulness. 2. Limited scope of knowledge. These are things I just thought about I’m sure there’s specific parameters y’all in the tech know about

Either way, I needed to get it out there so those folks can know I ain’t happy about it

This tech has been in the making for a long time. I hope you guys are using your brains and are ready to feel what it is to be a human being when there’s no longer a necessity for mental labor(scary, we’re likely gonna degenerate) but I’m just saying I hope you buckle up and swallow that pill of nothingness and find out.

Thought has been in the human psyche since the beginning of time and now it is finally processing outside the brain, that has implications. Thought has been working in the psychological field as well as the technological field and we haven’t figured out a thing about it

Either way just pay attention, is all I’ll say. I got no advice. Just buckle the f up please

Call me crazy but that’s not the concern. The concern is you and what’s happening so turn your attention towards that. Crazy time

[spice star]

for some reaon when I try to sign into chatgpt with my microsoft account, I'm being prompted to enter an OpenAI OTP

I don't have 2FA set up through OpenAI though, so I'm not sure what code I'm supposed to enter

wait never mind

my password manager had one saved I guess?

[gentle bronze]

2FA from microsoft

[spice star]

no it was an openai 2fa

I guess I had set one up and forgotten about it

my microsoft account has a separate 2fa secret reference

[faint merlin]

Yes, all the time.

[eternal rock]

Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages. OpenAI staff will never DM you for any transactions.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @languid valley immediately.

[eternal ruin]

Yo, is it true that OAI rents kenian workers for <2$/hr?

[tight island]

idk, ask OAI

[eternal ruin]

idk I just heard it today, that folks being rented actually clean up / refine the data used to train GPT

and I was a bit: Well, that's a huge mindfrick for under 2$/hr

[tight island]

it isnt

[eternal ruin]

not as in complexity

but as in being monotonous stuff 😄

[tight island]

the average monthly salary in Kenia is 800 usd

statistics say 634

[eternal ruin]

I see

[tight island]

giving a regulatory Monthly salary for lets say 15 usd would be entirely unreasonable for people in kenia

[eternal ruin]

So, basically just adapted to the economy.

Well, not that bad at all

[tight island]

yup each country has its laws.

Assuming that he or the individual pays no taxes and works 37 hours a week a salsary of 2220 without taxes taken into consideration. for a month

so 2 Dollars is entirely reasonable, anything higher is unreasonable due to their economy.

[eternal ruin]

meh don't know, I mean, if folks work around 22 days per month, it's about 320'ish $

still below the average

[tight island]

true.

Nothing stops the worker for asking for a raise.

More often than not there are Add-ons depending on when you work.

[eternal ruin]

Yeah, but taking into account the amount of jobless folks, replacement would be the result of it. I guess.

[tight island]

like weekdays may give 1.5 usd more or rather weekends.

[eternal ruin]

yup

[tight island]

so it can quickly add up

if one is dedicated to focus entirely on Salary they can get quite high.

and 320 usd is enough to live on in Kenia for rent and etc.

especially since US Currency is more valuable, if they're paid in USD.

still 320 usd is 45.251,29 Kenyan Shilling and rent is on the high end around 139 USD.

its a reasonable salary i'd say.

[eternal ruin]

Yeah, but paying roughly 50% of your income just for rent isn't actually something I'd call to be very "liveable"

[tight island]

its reality its roughly the same everywhere. even where i live.

[eternal ruin]

Nah, not really.

In Germany e.g. I pay 1/3 for rent.

[tight island]

thats germany a 1st world country. with plenty of infrastructure and social programs.

[eternal ruin]

Yeah, but as said, you still have also running costs to cover. Food, etc.

Insurances, maybe you've kids. From time to time you gotta treat yourself.

[tight island]

Food is relatively cheap in Kenya.

[eternal ruin]

Let's say it wouldn't hurt if they'd raise it from <2$ to 4$.

[tight island]

it would hurt a lot.

[eternal ruin]

Naaa

[tight island]

thats doubling it. even the add on that can be given

[eternal ruin]

Indeed.

But it wouldn't actually hurt a lot tbh.

[tight island]

For a standard position 2$ is more than enough

[eternal ruin]

Oh, that I agree. As entry wage I'd actually go with it.

[tight island]

thats what i mean, the worker can always work extra hours if needed since the job is mostly online they can stay home

or take uneeded times others dont want to earn a little extra or work in the weekends.

then ask for a promotion or a slight pay raise. preferably one or the other not both.

of course based on progresss. and productivity.

and if they work for OAI, they can always have a sidehustle where they custom build API setups for a relatively reasonable fee.

[eternal ruin]

hm true

[tight island]

although idk if thats a contract violation.

[eternal ruin]

Anyways, good fellow, thanks for the nice chat. I'm off to the gym.

[tight island]

Good Burn

And lots of protein, remember the pain is the gain.

[dreamy flare]

is there any option for tts for chatGPT on the computer/browser? As far as I can see it, its only an option on the app?

[maiden fractal]

plugin for chatgpt plus

[inland maple]

Hello everyone,
As a subscriber to ChatGPT Team I cannot export my data. It's really painful but I will do it manually...

I would like to know if someone knows a tool that can re-format a copy-pasted whole ChatGPT conversation into a readeable PDF automatically.

I have hundreds of convo sometimes hundreds of pages

[dreamy flare]

is there a plugin beside 11labs? I assume they want me to pay extra lol

then I might as well use the api from OAI xD

[maiden fractal]

they have several plug in on the store, i didnt try them all

[dreamy flare]

mhh maybe i could use an emulator for android

with the app

i wonder why this function isnt available on browser. Its actually a bit annoying

[spice star]

it's available in the browser

just press the "Read Aloud" button

[dreamy flare]

there is none lol

on the app yes, on browser no

ah nevermind. Apparently only on firefox its not there. Not sure why tho lol

[gentle bronze]

read aloud works on edge, chrome and safari, it doesn't work on firefox

[tight island]

You can accomplish this quite easily but creating a custom gpt with internal scripts to accomplish that goal but it’s token heavy

[kindred parcel]

It defies description just how useless GPT-4 has become. It won't even amalgamate things it wrote in a conversation into a Word doc. This has gotten BEYOND PATHETIC.

When I burn all 40 messages badgering it into doing it, it creates a Word doc with "placeholder text" on every page. ABSOLUTELY ridiculous.

[tight island]

Did you remember to research every code library it has available or did you only ask it to do it

If the latter that’s the issue

[kindred parcel]

....Do you even realize how ridiculous of a question that is??

And how pathetically broken a product would have to be for that justification to be legitimate?

[tight island]

What you failed to do I did quite easily

instead of having GPT write every single script manually each time embed them as a .txt file with imports. and an empty .json file then all u need is the instructions.

[kindred parcel]

I didn't fail to do anything, GPT-4 failed to copy and paste things into a Word document, vacillating between "Ok, here's a Word doc with "placeholder text" on all 6 pages" and "Oh I can't do that" before finally reaching "I can't incorporate real time data into a Word doc" which is NOWHERE NEAR WHAT WAS ASKED OF IT.

[tight island]

ur not being specific enough in your instructions.

u need to quite literally spell out every single step

[kindred parcel]

That is absolutely ludicrous to suggest as a reasonable thing to be done in the aim of accomplishing something so simple.

[tight island]

then why dont u do it yourself if it is so simple. and do it manually.

🤷‍♂️

[kindred parcel]

Because the ENTIRE POINT of the tool is to do things faster.

[tight island]

i gave you a solution that actually works, whether or not u will use it, is up to you.

[kindred parcel]

That's not a solution, that's reverse-engineering a broken tool.

[vapid kettle]

Well instead of arguing with it, you should really be editing the oldest relevant chat message until you get the prompt right. Would have saved you a whole lot of time and you would get significantly better results tbh

[tight island]

true u can do that too less effective but yeah.

[vapid kettle]

cause now by the time you are finished arguing the attention has shifted very far from the original task at hand lol

can;t really recall all of it effectively anymore

[kindred parcel]

Now THAT is a useful tip! I'll try that next time.

[vapid kettle]

that's the limitation of all current language models btw, not just gpt.

[kindred parcel]

Will that still consume prompts? (I'm guessing so, since I'd have to hit the "Regenerate" button, right?)

[tight island]

yup

it consumes prompts

which is why i recommended you the method i use.

im on teams as well.

[kindred parcel]

Bro, I am not going to reverse engineer a broken product every time I need it to do something. THE PRODUCT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

[tight island]

its not even reverse engineering.

it has the capability to execute code. through CI.

but stay stubborn i guess, good luck on the "Regeneation" Method since it's suboptimal.

[kindred parcel]

Yes, it is. Making it aware of all its libraries and feeding it an empty .json is practically the definition thereof. I'm curious why you would defend a broken tool so voraciously?

I don't even know why I engage with you. There's always at least one "ACKSHUALLY" person here, and today it's you. Bug off.

[tight island]

i defend it because you're being immature and you're not thinking properly when dealing with LLM's it's not a person but a tool, and like any tool you should make an effort to actually understand it.

instead of saying "Make story" and get mad about the story being about a dragon with a hat when u never specified properly what story when and how to do it.

[kindred parcel]

That is not in any way relevant to what I have asked of it. What a pointless attempt at an argument.

[tight island]

say what you will but you're using the tool wrong, and in a suboptimal way. utilize its full capabilities or get suboptimal results. theres no inbetween.

[kindred parcel]

No, I am not. The tool is broken, and people who defend a broken tool only delay the fixing of it.

[tight island]

tool isnt broken you just dont know how to properly use it.

done with the convo.

[kindred parcel]

That's nice. The tool is broken.

[tight island]

i like cake too but i prefer chocolate cake.

[kindred parcel]

Do you enjoy having to figure out the actual ingredients yourself when you open the box and what's inside is in no way representative of the ingredients and instructions?

What am I saying, you certainly must!

[vapid kettle]

I didn't really read too much into what are you suggesting, but what I described is literally a standard use practice. If you use it any other way you are doing it wrong. Just like describing a task you want it to do scattered across several messages versus a single message request - is a horrible idea.

[tight island]

what i suggested can be done in a single output while giving your answer, tracking your message and storing your message and downloading message(s) meaning all messages.

... Even downloading the file as a pdf. with all prompts and messages from both user and model.

Takes less than 10 min to set up, requires no plugins at all, no external API's, only Code interpreter. GPT's innate tool.

2-5 simple .txt documents and a .json document thats all the model needs for this simple task.

[kindred parcel]

That's nice. A tool that takes 10 minutes of backend work (which 99.9999% of its users don't know how to, and therefore won't) to produce a suitable result is a BROKEN TOOL.

[tight island]

haha i was even gonna offer to make one for all to use but no.

[kindred parcel]

I don't want it.

[tight island]

i'm that petty.

[kindred parcel]

That's got to do wonders for your social life!

[wide matrix]

I mean... It sounds less like a broken tool and more like one that doesn't fit your needs. You need it to be less complex or take up less time to achieve a desired result.

[vapid kettle]

gpts? Well it could work, but you need to be mindful of 32k context limitation and their assistants api implementation limits. Giving it a specific URL to visit does not mean that it will read the ENTIRETY of that website (it will not). However it will absolutely do that if you copy paste the contents. To some extent same is true here as well.

[wide matrix]

So it's not necessarily broken... It just doesn't have the features you want

[tight island]

u can do this with a simple 4k model thats the issue.

[kindred parcel]

????? Asking it to paste text it made in the same conversation into a Word doc is not indicative of the wrong tool for the job. It literally does it every day.

[tight island]

because you're using the wrong coding library 😆 u never specified the library.

[kindred parcel]

I. Should. Not. Have. To.

[tight island]

have u asked it what the most efficient method or did u ask it to "put msg in pdf, when talk"

[wide matrix]

If it's doing it incorrectly or not well enough for you without putting in the extra effort... Then yeah, it's the wrong tool. If it's capable of it, but doesn't do it well... That's the definition of a wrong tool.

You CAN beat a nail in with a wrench. But a hammer is better.

[kindred parcel]

Where did I say anything about a PDF?

[tight island]

u didnt but its more efficient that docx

[kindred parcel]

It can and does do it well. Or, at least it used to. THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT.

[tight island]

u cant expect the model to know your every need if you dont spell out every single detail.

it can guess, sure.

[wide matrix]

Ahhh. I see what you're saying. From that perspective you could consider broken... Because it's a value judgment between two states of the same product.

[kindred parcel]

Saying "Put the 6 scene scripts we wrote earlier (which are numerically titled) into a Word Document" is just about as direct as it gets.

[tight island]

wrong chat.

so a manuscript?

[kindred parcel]

Nope.

[tight island]

or is the intention just to download all messages the model and you had.

[kindred parcel]

Yes.

[tight island]

then a psuedo storage libary which i recommended is the best u can do.

allowing u to not only ask for a "save file" but even upload it to a new instance and continue from there.

its a relatively old method. by at least 1 - 1½ years, it works, thats what matters.

[kindred parcel]

I appreciate the candor. It's not a value judgement, it is empirically true. It used to do something that it now fails to do, and lies to me every step of the way about it. That's far outside of the realm of a personal assessment.

[wide matrix]

I can see where you're coming from... I think the hard part with LLMs is that their capabilities vary not just from tweaks the developers make but from how you interact with them. Your really simple prompt could give an entirely different set of possibilities just by adding another word or rephrasing.

Even without getting into the complex stuff that Starlight mentioned.

I guess I kind of assume that's just part of the experience at the moment.

And yes, Starlight. I know it's not complex for people who have any knowledge of code.

[tight island]

i dont see the stuff i say as complex this is not even a backend issue, this is utilizing ChatGPT aka "MyGPT"

z.z

[wide matrix]

But regular people tend to be scared of it

[tight island]

sighs

[wide matrix]

And not everyone who uses chatgpt has any dev experience 😆

[tight island]

im just trying to help, and i am right it was the most efficient method.

[wide matrix]

You may be right, but your ability to communicate it wasn't great 😅

[tight island]

i dont disagree

luckily i have Oatmeal to handle me if i get outta line

👀

[wide matrix]

But yeah... Going for efficiency and speed? Your solution would definitely work and is probably the right way to approach it with that as the goal

[wide matrix]

😆

[tight island]

i know it works because i use it myself.

using the "Create MyGPT"

no backend access needed, GPT can create the scripts for you and all, u basically just need the instrucitons. and embed the file contents to the gpt that it gave u.

it is an unknown for regular users, i also understand the Frustration

but being wilfully dismissive of a solution and not even recognizing it is also an issue, even when given the recipe and how to.

[wide matrix]

Mmhm. The thing with LLMs is that the possibility space for input and response is so absolutely enormous... That unless you think a lot about it, it can be hard to get what you want.

[tight island]

true

[wide matrix]

Especially if what you want is particular.

[tight island]

i do experiment a lot with ChatGPT

if it can be accomplished with no backend, i can make it.

[wide matrix]

And the weird thing with it, unlike most other tools, is that it's capability feeds off of yours.

[tight island]

thats the point i've come to.

[wide matrix]

So if you have a LOT of cross-domain knowledge, you can use it for ALL kinds of stuff.

I feel ya.

[tight island]

i even made an automatic Bookwriter

writes fullscale books, using "MyGPT"

despite its inferior token count i made it work

[wide matrix]

Yeah, I could see that actually being pretty easy. Now, without editing those books will be technically proficient but weird 😆 ... But that's only for now.

[tight island]

i just finished writing a 353 page book

took me about a day.

GPT did the writing and everything. i use a Vector like libary in its local enviroment.

so memory isnt an issue.

although more memory would be better. and by memory i mean "Tokens"

i had to design a different subsystem of Memory management for bookwriting. luckily it all works.

ur only command is "Continue" and then copy and paste the page contents into a word file then u can have an an corrector correct it, or a bigger API correct it. seperately. or even do it yourself.

infinitely more easy to create as an API with backend access but i made it work with chatgpt and just knowlegde files and a set of instructions.

[tight island]

I reckon the next big ChatGPT update changes everything

[wide matrix]

I mean... The latest competitor is pretty impressive if you know how to use it. So if the next big GPT model tops that by a decent amount? I believe it.

The multimodality is already a big plus

[tight island]

Latest? You mean claude?

[wide matrix]

Yar

[tight island]

Isn’t that only a token advantage?

Although tokens are everything

[wide matrix]

Token advantage, more accurate recall over long conversations, and better understanding of things in more human domains... Honestly, I think the code it writes is a bit better at this point too, especially for larger spaces.

[tight island]

Fair, I do think OAI, has bigger token contexts than there is commercially available… behind closed doors

[wide matrix]

The biggest thing for regular users though is that the default responses are much better. So if you give it a simple question without extra context it tends to give a MUCH better response that GPTs default

About anything decently complex anyway

Simple stuff is similar.

[tight island]

Yeah token and context matters

By far

[wide matrix]

Mhhmm, mhmm.

[tight island]

The more memory the better. The 128k is nice with a vector db

[wide matrix]

The possibilities are already kind of insane... But the ease of use keeps getting better and better. And with that the level of complexity you can put into your solutions that involve LLMs

And context and token availability are a big part of that ease of use

[tight island]

I don’t think that OAI wouldn’t release a super high token model but cost is a factor

While they can do it, is it worth the cost

[wide matrix]

I think that's kind of where a lot of the research is going--getting the cost per token down.

[tight island]

Yeah agreed

[dusky cliff]

is there asny known incompatibility of the chatGPT app with pixel phones?

[warped cove]

Works fine for me on the 8 pro

[spice star]

read aloud works in firefox

[visual nova]

does someone have a script or something that removes that circle with the down arrow in it?

That thing messes up so many screenshots its insane

I'm been trying to find it in the html but have been unsuccessful so far

[warped cove]

I don't think it works on Firefox

[echo plinth]

Is there a missing audio codec on Firefox?

[fluid skiff]

chatGPT actually seems to be going out of its way to make connections lately, as opposed to what i experienced a couple of days ago, which was word limits and resistance to summary

[paper zealot]

would you rather ask chat gpt to make all of your breakfast or all of your dinner

[echo plinth]

workaround: https://community.openai.com/t/read-aloud-feature-not-working-on-chatgpt-via-firefox/664947/10

[cosmic junco]

why did they remove editing from chatgpt?

[south crown]

I've had an issue occur constantly in the last week or so with gpt 4. I provide a prompt but instead of answering it, it answers the prompt before it...

[orchid pollen]

when i give gpt feedback

does that have a effect on the chat ? or only feedback for openai?

[chrome terrace]

It does seem to be doing a thing where it joins a couple of what should be edited takes, but both of them wind up in the conversation and can't be edited. When that happens it does seem to read further back into the history to the things that they've joined together, and answer the earlier stuff.

[long pier]

Does someone wanna explain to me why ChatGPT is acting up?!

[prime swallow]

How is it acting up for you?

[long pier]

Slow time getting responses

[prime swallow]

How slow? Haven't noticed a delay

[long pier]

On the app whenever I type a prompt

[sonic comet]

Are talking about editing the prompt that you sent in the chat? If yes, then the edit option is still there. Just hover over your prompt and you will find the edit option at the bottom of the specific prompt.

[young wigeon]

Can you tell me if I understand correctly that to get access to GPT-4 (API) you need to deposit 5$?

[cobalt idol]

speech on desktop still not working at all (just changes into stop icon and nothing plays)

[dusky cliff]

how to use speech on desktop?

[maiden fractal]

Api or plug in

[hardy forge]

hi

[vapid kettle]

you grossly underestimate how much compute and money it takes to train a model.

They may have it, but I think only in the form of upcoming product, aka gpt4.5. Although pretty sure that hasn't reached the testing yet either.

[velvet lance]

any one having issues on desktop

Oops, an error occurred!

[cobalt idol]

works here

[timber sonnet]

chat gpt is incredibly slow for me right now

[tight island]

I am very well aware of the concept and cost of running and training a model they’ve stated this on their website and various papers.

As a matter of fact I’ve made my own LLM although it’s not a good one but it works well with a single task such as grammar for my native language, it it good? No, does it work? Yes

🤷

[nocturne garnet]

why does chatgpt claim sometimes that it cant browse the internet and then you have to try and convince it that it can before it does it

[gentle bronze]

gpt like to play diva sometimes

it's known to do refusal or lazyness sometimes

[nocturne garnet]

yeah it shut up and did what i wanted when i sent it a screeenshot of the chatgpt version chooser that says "GPT-4 With DALL-E, browsing and analysis" and asked it to read it.

[brittle wyvern]

I'm getting so many errors today nonstop. I cant work LOL

[nova wind]

errors?!

[brittle wyvern]

Yea I get "Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong." like 4 times for every 1 generation of text

[nova wind]

oh

[nova wind]

3.5 or 4?

[brittle wyvern]

4

[nova wind]

right..

[brittle wyvern]

Very unusual. Usually it works extremely well

[bitter latch]

Are you still seeing these errors?

[brittle wyvern]

Yea, and now I reached my damn limit because every time it fails it counts as a usage. Dang

[tight sage]

Question: Are there any plans for OpenAI to become OPEN?

[bold snow]

Does anyone know why chatgpt keeps getting worse and worse? Data Priming doesn`t work anymore and chatgpt doesnt follow my instructions anymore. Does anyone know any alternatives for writing blog articles?

[tight island]

have you attempted to create a customgpt tailored to that specific task.

[bold snow]

yeah, but it doesnt work neither, after 2 Chats it forgets a part or all of my instructions I told him before

[honest jay]

Are you saying you create a custom GPT, and then give the GPT instructions in a chat message, which it then forgets later in the conversation? Have you tried putting all the instructions for a GPT within the instructions field itself, in the "Configure" section of the GPT builder? This field is stored as permanent context for an entire chat, so is ideal for instructions you want the GPT to follow for an entire chat.

[proven lagoon]

Have the same problem

wondering whether I should try the ol "delete cache and logout and login again".

[brittle wyvern]

broooo is that for real?

[tight island]

Hhhh, fr, go to "EDIT GPT" then go to "Configure" then proceed to the "Instructions" Section, THAT is where it actually goes. @bold snow, then save your progress. and view your GPT then talk to it.

[dull bramble]

Has anyone noticed the loss of response from ChatGPT 4 when returning to the chat, with the “regenerate response” button instead of the response?

[cobalt lynx]

Whattttt has been going on with gpt today hahaha

[cobalt lynx]

Same, unfortunately.

[sharp kernel]

is there a prompt counter for chatgpt4? how do i know how many messages i have left for the next 3 hours

[floral ether]

@sharp kernel if you use chrome...google Chatterclock extension

[sharp kernel]

ty

[bitter latch]

OpenAI has many open repositories and research papers detailing their work and research. One example is Whisper, an Open Source speech to text model

[crisp cairn]

yes, saw that also

[pliant coral]

chatgpt dying

[pliant coral]

no

lol

why would you give away your code when you can be a subsidiary of microsoft designed to maximize profits for bing while simultaneously developing an agi?

[glossy pebble]

is chatgpt down?

stopped working out of nowhere, just getting a bunch of errors, tried clearing cache and hard reloading, no chats work, no new chats work

ok nvm i logged out and in again, some weird auth token sync maybe, but usually it tells me that it has expired

[proven lagoon]

Sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't ¯_(ツ)_/

[winter rampart]

what does the .5 mean in GPT models?

[hearty parrot]

Why am I getting Oops, an error occurred!

What is wrong with OpenAi? It keeps messing up

The error I'm getting this time is Oops, an error occurred!

[novel steppe]

what is the usage limit for chatgpt 4 on web?

50 hits per 3 hours?

and isit different for chatgpt plus vs chatgpt Team?

[primal shard]

Gpt 4 has 40 messages per 3 hours

Team plan has 100 instead

[novel steppe]

per user or total?

[primal shard]

I have no idea but i think per user, if was per total that would mean 50-50, that means +10 from initial subscription so is kinda useless to pay lot of money for +10

Team plan si billed anually, not per month

[lavish crescent]

My ChatGPT hasn’t been able to access the internet for several weeks, is everyone experiencing this?

[primal shard]

You have gpt 3.5 or gpt 4 ?

[tall flame]

ive had it fail for a lack of a minor browser update before. ive also had to ensure any blockers allowed it. just checklist items.

[cosmic junco]

same

[maiden thicket]

wait does plus have voice ability now?!?!?!

also is it still so that the gpt's only get up to 25 prompts while normal gives 50? (makes no sense to me)

[floral ether]

Custom GPT's have 40 now (at least for me). @maiden thicket

[maiden thicket]

Nice, I heard plus can understand sound now?

[floral ether]

Yes you can have it talk to you now.

[maiden thicket]

is there anything specifically good with it? Can it identify specific sounds, or just what you say

[floral ether]

I havnt really played with it, other than it can read back the chat in one of several voices it has.

[tight island]

It’s a monthly plan as well

There’s option for monthly or annual

[maiden thicket]

Why cant the gpt discuss genders? Its a literal academic assignment and it refuses to help because discussing men and women is 'aginst guidelines'

[proven lagoon]

Still get the "Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong." errors on chats even in chats that are not that long. Seems like they are much more likely to occur though in chats where I call custom GPTs. Shame, it's a very useful feature but guess I have to make do without it until OpenAI gets their sh... stuff together.

Also wow at super strict content filters here

[minor meadow]

chatgpt is slow

[tight island]

I do agree with the strictness, but I also think it’ll pass as the model improves, since regulating a gpt isn’t as easy as it sounds so some things are flat out not being discussed due to the “Sensitivity” of certain people, which is a fair assessment otherwise the filter wouldn’t be there

… I myself do hope they loose some of their restrictions since it is too strict

[ebon shoal]

Anyone know if OpenAI has mentioned anything about implementing passkey support for ChatGPT logins?

[maiden fractal]

Not afaik

[ebon shoal]

😢

[magic zephyr]

He even accesses the internet, but only by asking very insistently. In fact, it seems that he is not prioritizing internet searches but rather internal database content. I am personally using WebPilot gpt custom and it has shown very good results. But I'm currently using Copilot Pro more frequently, the navigation experience through it is much smoother.

As my main currency is not the dollar, it is unsustainable to pay for two AI solutions. I'm using copilot pro together with chatpgt plus because this month Microsoft gave all accounts free 30-day access to copilot pro.

But when this period ends, I am seriously considering migrating to copilot pro if chatgpt continues to be highly limited with the internet search feature and continues to take time to launch the memory feature on my account.

Of course, I would miss some things about chatgpt, like voice chat (there is nothing even close in other AI solutions), ability to edit my questions, and obviously the memory feature that doesn't exist for everyone yet, most likely I would really like this feature.

But the fact that copilot pro uses openai's gpt-4 turbo, has no chat limit (only for generating images, which is a great daily limit), searches many online sources with little effort, integrates with windows and edge (for YouTube video summary is wonderful, no extension with chatgpt beats it), and the high speed of response even at peak times makes me think about it a lot.

And look, I've been a regular and until then loyal user of chatgpt since December 2022, and I've been paying since the launch of plus in my country.

But the plus is a paid service and unfortunately responsiveness is something that is very relevant when paying, especially when the currency is 5 times more expensive than the dollar.

[open gust]

so so lazy at the moment, no idea why

[magic zephyr]

I sincerely hope that it is some launch they are planning for the next few weeks.

I have the feeling that they are saving some effort from the model for use in something that is yet to be released. Who knows gpt-4.5 or 5 even.

Actually with that in mind, it's one of the reasons I'm still insisting on keeping my subscription to chatgpt

[open gust]

I don't pay for it, but it's been essentially unusable for code purposes recently. I mainly use it for Python as I am not an expert

[magic zephyr]

Sorry, but the free version has been unusable for some time now, even for basic things. I would **strongly **not recommend it for use in development, ESPECIALLY if you work with this.

All the considerations I said above refer to the **PLUS **version of chatgpt. For **free **use, I would recommend copilot free or even gemini.

Copilot free seems to be inferior to chatgpt plus, but compared to chatgpt free, it is better in almost everything. I want to make it clear here that all the comparisons I mentioned above with Microsoft's AI service were with the paid version.

[eternal rock]

Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages. OpenAI staff will never DM you for any transactions.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @languid valley immediately.

[dense halo]

Anyone having the issue where the voice chat just skips lines of text for no reason?

[pliant coral]

well there only is that for gpt-3.5

gpt-3 was a completion model and then they trained it better to answer questions which made gpt-3.5

[acoustic talon]

when's the memory update dropping

[near summit]

My entire quota today goes to regenerating "Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong." answers … worthless

[maiden fractal]

Do you have a vpn ?

[near summit]

Nope

[maiden fractal]

What browser are you using ?

[near summit]

Chrome Version 122.0.6261.129 (Officiell version) (arm64)

[maiden fractal]

Can you try firefox as test

[formal relic]

im trying to get chatgpt help me write an essay by finding quotes from an uploaded document that support/substantiate a thesis/claim. Every time I do this it either makes up quotes or says "im unable to do so.... if there's anything else you need please let me know."

any idea how to fix this?

[maiden fractal]

That's go on tos for school

[formal relic]

thats what?

[maiden fractal]

Thats why it doesn't want to help you

[eternal rock]

This is a Safe for Work Discord Server

The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
• Report all sensitive and offensive content in the feedback reporting tool in the ChatGPT web UI instead of here on Discord.

Posting NSFW content will result in a permanent ban.

[maiden fractal]

The terms of service

[formal relic]

oh so there's a TOS blocking this request? how do i bypass it?

this isnt actually an assignment for a class or anything. I'm trying to write a blog post.

[maiden fractal]

You can't and talking about that it is rule 0

[formal relic]

that's ridiculous

[near summit]

Same problem there unfortunately

[formal relic]

what can it do then?

[maiden fractal]

Does it works on cellphone without wifi ( try lte/ data )

[formal relic]

"Asking for quotes from books, documents, or any text is not against the Terms of Service (TOS), as long as the request complies with copyright laws and the material is used in a manner that respects fair use guidelines. I can provide quotes from texts that are uploaded in the conversation, shared through excerpts, or from my training data up to my last update in April 2023. For copyrighted materials not in the public domain, it’s important to ensure that the use of quotes adheres to fair use standards, typically involving brief excerpts used for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. If you have a specific request for quotes from “The Artist’s Way” or any other text you provided, I’m here to help within those guidelines."

its saying that's not the issue.

yeah this is annoying. it wont quote a document whatsoever.

[manic harness]

OpenAI is really moving extremely slowly in improving its AI for subscribers. What do you think?

[atomic perch]

Is anyone else having issues with chatgpt? on the status it shows fine but it just isnt working to me, it keeps giving me error or it just doesnt generate an answer

[proven lagoon]

I'd try starting a new chat and see if it behaves normally there. I am having lots of problems in longer chats and chats that call custom gpts lately.

[formal relic]

if anything its getting worse.

[hearty parrot]

has anyone encountered an issue where they aren't able to write or click in the input box? Seems like the style section of the site is preventing anyone from typing:
class="enforcement-containerchatgpt-paid"
style="position: fixed; top: 0px; left: 0px; width: 100vw; height: 100vh; z-index: 1000; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.85); align-items: center; box-sizing: border-box; flex-direction: column; justify-content: center; text-align: center; opacity: 0; transition: opacity 0.5s ease 0s; pointer-events: auto;"

[formal relic]

the power of ai is that it doesnt have an understanding of social norms inherently.

and they just keep adding more and more social controls into the answers.

what we're seeing is a simulation of how society stifles creativity.

[proven lagoon]

Eh, it's not optimized for creativity. If you want that there are other models that are better for that imho. But for productivity, all those error and half-functioning features are getting getting pretty annyoing.

[rose ferry]

i love this new feature where i prompt chatgpt, it gives me the shortest possible answer it can, and then ends the answer by saying "For more insights, consider looking into further resources." wow thanks!! lmaooooo

[manic harness]

Exactly

[formal relic]

what do you mean?

[formal relic]

yeah its incredibly lazy

[magic zephyr]

What's the point of looking for other sources, if that's exactly what we're looking for in AI? The initial purpose of using AI is for it to gather information that we would seek from other sources... And AI does this very well - if it is not limited.

[atomic perch]

I have premium and I can't use GPT for over 2 hours... have tried different devices, incognito, all that and it just keeps telling me* An error occurred. Either the engine you requested does not exist or there was another issue processing your request.*

[modern horizon]

I just found this feature that is the solution to all our problems. To get around the prob....

network error
🔊 📋 🔁 👎

[proven lagoon]

Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong.

🤬

Guess I'll call it workday now

[clever barn]

So i've been using GPT 4 for a while now but the past week or so it's been impossible to get responses from GPT. every response gets cut short with a network error, hmm...something went wrong, or error in input stream. Does anyone have any idea how to go about resolving this? I've tried multiple browsers, clearing cache and cookies, signing in and out, and i'm just at a loss

[crisp cairn]

saw this :), go to docs to read more info

[low dirge]

should i unsubscribe chatgpt

am finding it less attractive now

what are some good options for the same price

[honest jay]

Hey! #ai-discussions is the best place to discuss non-OpenAI things

[low dirge]

wokay

[manic harness]

Currently, it is redundant, verbose, not very organic, conceptually weak, and not very intuitive in its explanations. This is my impression. Everyone has their own.

[nocturne garnet]

chatgpt did just give me a gold star. i assume its for good behavior. i havent been swearing and told it names recently. i even told it nice things and did heart emojis. good human

[wheat otter]

lol

I spent half an hour trying to ask ChatGPT to give me the last word. It never did 😑🤣

[modest sparrow]

Has the "Continue" button gone?
Don't see it on GPT4 anymore

Does editing count in the 50 msgs/3 hours?

[nocturne garnet]

i havent seen the continue button in a while either. i just type out continue when needed though

[glass fulcrum]

in mobile it look like >> and in browser look the same i seen it tday (google chrome and EU)

[maiden fractal]

It is 40 /3h

[magic zephyr]

It's been 40 messages every 3 hours for many months. I don't understand when some claim there are 50 messages every 3 hours.

[glass fulcrum]

i think it was like that for sometime

i still remember the 100/3hours (ithink 3hours) limit

[modest sparrow]

Tbh I don't know why ChatGPT (even Plus) has become lazy recently

Despite explicit instructions to include stuff it just does the good old
# Fill in xyz

[glass fulcrum]

well its know issue

they got even the report for gpt begin lazy #off-topic message

well if you would like to help gpt to become less lazy try marking your responses as bad ones and flagging them as begin lazy

[modest sparrow]

Would that really make a difference, lol

Sure I guess

[glass fulcrum]

yea so the team will know what to fix (or its on RL i idk)

for me personally gpt didn't wanted to give all code witchout placeholders and after some time and some reports with that feature now it understand

[gaunt mortar]

GPT is telling me it can’t search bing like that’s something it’s never been able to do, but on other chats it works? Is there a problem right now?

[magic zephyr]

As far as I know, anything in this 100 message limit range is the Teams plan.

[magic zephyr]

Yes, there is clearly a problem that no one knows exactly what it is. But chatgpt is highly limited in doing web searches these days. Confirmed by all the people who comment here, and several other people I know closely who pay for the plus.

Apart from the issue of "laziness" that many are also complaining about

As I am optimistic, the feeling I have is that something big is coming. I really want an update on the model or even a new model. I have faith and hope in OpenAI and nothing happens by chance when it comes to chatgpt.

[clever barn]

has anyone had any luck fixing the network error and other errors that stop gpt from responding half way through a message?

[glass fulcrum]

100/3h was in standard plus when gpt-4 lunched for everyone

[glass fulcrum]

for me the network error was coused by VPN or unstable wifi

[clever barn]

i would have said the same but My network is extremely stable and I dont use a vpn

[clever barn]

^

[glass fulcrum]

oh well i idk man i wnat to help but idk what can be wrong. :p

[clever barn]

no worries, appreciate it

[arctic phoenix]

Just me or is ChatGPT 4 beyond slow right now? It writes a few letters at once, and have given me two network errors now.

[hot rapids]

guys did anyone saw the lex interview with sam

[glass fulcrum]

i watched it do you want to know something about what was there dissuced ?

[magic zephyr]

When chatgpt plus launched in my country, it was already 50/3 hours. After a few weeks it went down to 40 / 3 hours and that's how it remains in my account to this day.

[glass fulcrum]

oh seems like it was diff situation in EU :p

[magic zephyr]

Yes, of course, I believe that each country had a slightly different situation when launching the plus. Infrastructure demand, etc.

The fact is that these days we are all having some annoying problems, regardless of the country xD

Although I am actively using copilot pro, I still prefer the answers from chatgpt's internal database. Despite everything that is happening.

I even understand that GPT-4 is the same model for both, but there are different fine adjustments for each service, where it is possible to notice the response profile of each one.

What really bothers me lately has been the chatgpt online search issue, it's causing problems frequently.

As I said earlier, we can only hope that everything will be resolved - and even improve with new features before gpt 4.5 / 5.

[prime swallow]

There are ways to ask for that. Here's one: https://chat.openai.com/share/881fa77d-e6e4-4985-97f7-a54112ee9c23

[agile bane]

Ah yes, another fine example of GPT-4 excellence in needing ultra specific prompts.

Prompt:
Can you create a function in Python that accepts a list of lists and l loops through each list. It will need to look at the last element of each list and determine of that last element is greater than 0. If it is increment a counter by 1 and return the final count:
example_list = [
[10, 6, 0, 16], [10, 6, 0, 16], [10, 0, 0, 10],
[0, 0, 7, 7], [10, 0, 0, 10], [10, 0, 0, 10],
[10, 0, 0, 10], [10, 0, 0, 10], [0, 0, 7, 7], [0, 0, 7, 7]
]

Answer:
The function has processed the example list and determined that all 10 lists have their last element greater than 0.

Doesn't show me the source code. I guess I will need to be more specific and ask it next to to "also show me the source code". GPT-4 you are truly being more and more human every day.

Oh ya, it gave the proper answer, but the source code doesn't work.

[prime swallow]

This is totally a question I'd ask of 3.5, rather than using a limited GPT-4 message on...

https://chat.openai.com/share/8480522c-d46b-4937-91fc-b7059b9261d3

however, for me at least this 1 test, 4 also did so. It used code interpreter - to open that up you need to look for the small blue link, looks like these symbols: [>_]

When you hover over it, it says 'open analysis'.

https://chat.openai.com/share/4f305fb8-6c0c-48cc-bc8d-d781844f046d

I don't want to waste my GPT-4 messages seeing how often it interprets your request usably or not, but I actually do prefer to do a lot with 3.5 still (it's great at everything it's great at! There's only a few things that 4 is better at, mostly deeper understanding of human intent, interpreting writing for that - and using the tools that 3.5 doesn't have. For code snips, I totally use 3.5, it's usually great, fast, and often correct; if not, give it the error message and it finds fixes).

[agile bane]

Ok nice. Still love it though! But found that funny.

[prime swallow]

Yeah! It is funny. But frustating if you want the function. I bet if it gave you an answer, it did write the function, and tested it, using Python tool. But you have to actually click to open that and see the code.

[agile bane]

i did, thanks a bunch!

[vagrant garden]

gpt4 down?

or my pc broken

[chilly oar]

down for me

[vagrant garden]

damn was almost done with this essay

[primal bronze]

hi

[vagrant garden]

back up @chilly oar

[fiery mango]

its all down for all of us

[chilly oar]

chatgpt is always like "sure! here is an over simplification with placeholders for the full code you requested"

[maiden fractal]

status.openai.com

[winged moth]

Hey do plus subscribers need to do anything to get the memory feature? I keep hearing about how people are using it but I still have not seen it. How would I know if I have it? I don't see anything new in my settings....

[rocky wigeon]

Am i the only one but my chatGpt is saying Oops, an error occurred! try again i have been tryin to login i can't? Any help?

[honest jay]

Hey, there haven't been any new updates yet since they rolled it out to the early small group. When we get it, we'll have a new section in our settings called Personalization. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8590148-memory-faq

[winged moth]

Okay thanks! I remember reading about a month or so ago that it was being rolled out and I figured by now it would be out there. Impatient! 🙂

[desert gazelle]

Nice

[hidden aurora]

May I ask where I can find code interpretator? I have 4.0

[prime swallow]

It's part of the base GPT-4!

Just ask it to do something code for you, and it gladly will.

If you have more questions, please do ask!

[boreal pecan]

the other day I typed in "activate memory beta feature" and chatgpt4 responded as if it had turned it on...no new setting/sections though.

[hidden aurora]

Oh okay. I remember I had to turn on the function a year ago. Now they updated the interface so i think the option is gone. Thanks for the reply though, didn't know its part of the base GPT!

[honest jay]

Just a hallucination from the model! Maybe someday we'll get to upgrade our ChatGPT accounts like that, would be fun 😁

[boreal pecan]

oooh my first hallucination!

[ebon shoal]

😅 if you ask “did you really turn the feature on?” it’ll probably deny ever having it

[sleek gust]

Hello there, https://status.openai.com/ All Systems Operational
Please make sure that you are not using a VPN or blocking the connection
For any concerns or inquiries about any of OpenAI's services, kindly visit the Help Center at https://help.openai.com/ — thank you!

[worthy nimbus]

Is chatgpt running on the gpt-4 turbo model?

[cobalt idol]

ask for cutoff and see

I get december 2023
so its most likely gpt-4-0125-preview / gpt-4-turbo-preview

but I know some claimed they got April 2023 some week or 2 ago, while I didnt

[eternal rock]

`` Server Tip: ``

Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!

[limpid comet]

why is gpt-4 being excruciatingly slow today ?

[visual bloom]

Are others having difficulty producing images with DALL-e? I get images on and off past 10 h.

[winter rampart]

I thought there was already a GPT 4.5 cuz i saw it somewhere

Never mind I think it was just a rumor lol

[glad atlas]

the only thing i wish that they would do is make it so that chatgpt 4 understandzs that hey yeah you can look on the web for things, now that they are phasing out plugins wiht out webpilot it seems to be lacking in that capasity

[pliant coral]

yeah lmao

it seems openai is gonna release gpt-5, no 4.5

[winter rampart]

Can they actually like, for example, you send a mathematical image, then GPT-4 will edit on that image with the answers inscribed on them, can they do that?

[dark jungle]

Does ChatGPT care if you say please or thank you? does it give you a better response if you're kind, or a less nice response if you're less than kind? I always try to be nice to GPT, never quite know when Skynet will begin, need to ensure it remembers me 😄

[tacit vortex]

it cares the opposite

[visual bloom]

Well, I have noticed a certain bahaviour. Normally, please and thank you are ok. But if the ChatGPT is being an idiot and not producing the results you want, just commanding produces better results. Optionals are cussing and cursing the model.

[tacit vortex]

i am glad recently some ppl go to other llm so we dont suffer from usage outage so often. multi poles is the way to go.

[proven lagoon]

There was a paper looking at different prompt techniques that suggests it doesn't matter.

Personally, I tend to write better prompts when I anthropomorphize the AI and talk to it similarly like I would to a human. So I still do the thanks and please...

[proven lagoon]

I think there's a web pilot GPT you could call from chat?

[glad atlas]

Thanks i will look into that

[glad atlas]

I always say be nice to the AI if it does take over the world better to be a cherished pet then a simple battery!!

[tight island]

There’s different kind of paragraphs did you specify the specific paragraph type

Even still the paragraph type is important since many kinds exist

Is it a critical paragraph, descriptive paragraph or narrative paragraph etc

It does matter

I always specify type and I easily get as many as I specify

Try a new chat and SPECIFY the type of paragraph and the topic and how many paragraphs

Paragraph is broad

Never said it was

Try looking up paragraph types

And find the type you’re looking to use and then be extremely specific

I know it does

🗿

Always

Better prompt better result

I’ve always prompted like this

Since gpt 1 I’ve prompted like this

[broken smelt]

ChatGPT4's performance got worse and worse over the last couple days. From taking like a minute to give me a 2 sentence answer, to straight up giving up and not responding anymore, resulting in being unable to load the conversations.

Anyone experiencing the same?

[atomic perch]

Yes! I keep complaining about it but nothing is being done to fix this

[broken smelt]

Guess i'll cancel my subscription then. Looking for good alternatives. Hit me up. Thanks :D

[eternal thicket]

Anyone noticed GPT4 is becoming lazy again
It loves placing placeholders in its codes so much these days, why
I have already told it not to placing any placeholders, and it still does, or create a simpler version of my demand

[cyan pollen]

My GPT4 is down
no longer wants to respond to any request
but GPT3 works well

[broken smelt]

Yeah, same thing for me. GPT4 also always comes up with new variable names, even tho i didn't ask it to. Sometimes just randomly overwriting existing variable names, just to come up with sometimes cryptic names that have nothing to do with the code itself.

[eternal thicket]

You can try this prompt:

Please ensure all code snippets include definitions for any variables, constants, or assumptions made within the solution. If a variable or constant is referenced, provide its definition or initial value to ensure the code is self-contained and can be run independently.

[cyan pollen]

I saw a difference in her behavior at different times of the day
is best version was at 8am in France when the US Sleep

[cloud forge]

I live in the northwest of the UK - Northern England and the chat gpt app will suddenly respond in Welsh!? Anyone else experiencing language issues on ios?

[compact walrus]

When will OpenAI come up with the chatgpt update? to be specific the memory update. It's been almost 2 months since we haven't seen any kind of update for that matter.

[solar heath]

is it only me or is GPT4 answering questions extremely slowly?

[near summit]

For me too. It was the same yesterday at around this time

[solar heath]

one would think paying 25USD a month would guarantee performance 🙂

but oh well gottaa cope

[sleek goblet]

any news on when we can expect the memory function for all as I am still waiting for it? 😦

[hushed cipher]

Maybe getting used alot round this time

[south lantern]

yeah so i switched to claude 3. Only use api for gpt4 when u really need.

[visual bloom]

Same and on weekends. Worst around 16-19 GMT+2 when Europe is still working and US work day starts.

[tight island]

Did you create a custom gpt to specifically that project alone or did you just use standard GPT 4

If the latter that’s the issue

[limber matrix]

XD

[tight island]

It’s true

[limber matrix]

I mean that's your solution?

[tight island]

It works

[limber matrix]

If that's the status quo, lol even harderrrr

[tight island]

It’s easier

[limber matrix]

To just use builder right from the web?

[tight island]

You can gradually update the knowledge files as you progress meaning you needn’t remind it constantly

[tight island]

Yup

Or use the API as I do but that’s the solution that costs money

[limber matrix]

That's not easier

API wise

If builder is that easier, nice

[tight island]

The builder you can do it too

[limber matrix]

Otherwise it's just easier to switch between versions

[tight island]

I made a huge coding project by embedding a zip file of the entire project then gradually updating the file and working on it

Web version of course

Plus the standard gpt 4 is generally for chatting at some points it will refuse to do heavy code or data analysis etc

Unless you specifically use the data analysis variant

I personally haven’t really seen a drop in quality, in fact I feel like it’s improved

[clever barn]

anyone happen to find a fix/work around for the current gpt-4 response issues

[tight island]

Try logging in and out that fixed it for some

[clever barn]

did that. also cleared browser cache and cookies, also tried different browsers and devices

[tight island]

Hmm maybe you’re using a VPN?

[clever barn]

nope double checked that one as well

[tight island]

Huh… maybe the issue is regional

Is it a custom gpt

[clever barn]

nope just standard gpt4

[tight island]

Tried cleaning all chats?

Alternative solution

[clever barn]

im hesitant bc ive got a project ive been working with gpt to create and its like months of chat and i dont wanna lose it

[tight island]

That’s fair

[clever barn]

i have gemini as well but I cant upload files w it so i dont wanna unsub from gpt

[tight island]

And you don’t have this issue for custom GPTs?

[clever barn]

i honestly havent checked. lemme see

custom GPTs seem fine

[tight island]

Definitely regional then

[noble sapphire]

Looking for a way to implement chatgpt for my server. At work now haven’t had a bunch of time to research

[tight island]

Alternatively use this method <#chatgpt-discussions message>

Utilizing Custom GPT if you want specifics on how to set it up then drop me a DM

Chatgpt server implementation I can assist you with as well textually utilizing a similar method

[noble sapphire]

Cool

[cobalt idol]

nice, speech is fixed in firefox
I guess after FF update ( can also now edit PDFs in firefox 🙂 )

[burnt hound]

So after workign all night and most of the morning getting consistent output, I can't download the files I need because "Code interpreter session expired". Is there any way to get the files that chat made?

[honest jay]

Unfortunately, I don't think so. It seems like the expiration time for files processed via ADA is three hours: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8555545-file-uploads-faq

Files processed via ADA / Document Analysis, and when chatting with a custom GPT (not uploaded as knowledge in GPT config): Retained for 3 hours.

[burnt hound]

That's good to know for the future, thanks.

what an arbitrary and inconvenient limitation

[honest jay]

I think it relates to each user having a 10GB cap. My guess is, we could either get a small size cap and a longer expiration time, or a large cap and a more ephemeral session time.

[burnt hound]

huh if they dynamically managed it, these text files would be around much longer than the images I generated months ago that are still available.

[honest jay]

Images generated by DALL·E are separate from the virtual environment we have access to via ADA, but I do see what you're saying -- small text files are quite inconsequential, but as of right now, the ADA environment is all one "take it or leave it" experience.

[burnt hound]

another thing that's super frustrating is that it keeps processing my CSV starting with the second row, no matter how many times I say that it doesn't have a header row. Any ideas for an instruction that sticks?

it even argued with me - "it's common for a csv file to have a header row"

[dark jungle]

what happened to the continue button when GPT failed to finish a script? it seems to have gone this last day.

[tight island]

ahem

hi

[vapid kettle]

probably just a bug or connection issues if you don't see it. But saying "continue" will do the same thing. I'm pretty sure clicking on it is counted as another request either way.

[dark jungle]

yeah i know, it was just a good solution to have the button. Giving instructions to continue is often met with varying results.

[scarlet rover]

plugins gone? gg

[honest jay]

Also missing from my model dropdown, good catch! But still seems accessible directly at https://chat.openai.com/?model=gpt-4-plugins -- probably only for a short while longer though! Good run 😎

[scarlet rover]

yeah they said that gpts will replace them eventually, but yeah when they first came out, they kinda changed chatgpt in a good way

[serene token]

Hi

[dawn dove]

I keep getting responses like the following but no visual indicator that ChatGPT's still doing anything. You guys running into similar issues today?

I understand the task is to format the reading plan from the provided PDF into markdown format, aligning with your specifications. Let's proceed without delay. I'll start the conversion process now and provide you with the formatted content as soon as it's ready. Please stay tuned.

[vapid kettle]

lmao this is hilarious. Do you have any custom instrucitons / using custom gpt?

[dawn dove]

I do indeed.

Use Casual Language: Write like you're talking to a friend. Use everyday language and contractions (e.g., "I'm" instead of "l am").

Segmented Content: Break your post into small, digestible sections with clear headings.

Comprehensive Coverage: When covering a topic, be thorough. Include various aspects or angles to provide a comprehensive overview that educates the reader fully on the subject.

Evidence-Based Insights: Back up your claims or advice with evidence or personal experience. This can include data, statistics, or anecdotal evidence that lends credibility to your content.

Answers should be succinct & to the point. Do not include your opinion.

I've kicked it like 8 times now but no luck. It just seems to be lying or hallucinating 😛 @vapid kettle

Unless you see something in my instructions that would make it say dumb crap like this

[vapid kettle]

You can continue existing conversations with plugins until April 9, 2024. As of March 19, 2024 new conversations with plugins cannot be created.
https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8988022-winding-down-the-chatgpt-plugins-beta

Seems that Dev accounts are unaffected - I hope it stays that way.

accessing via link is treated the same as continuing old conversations I guess.

[dawn dove]

(Oh yeah, and I'm not useing a custom gpt, just 4.0)

[vapid kettle]

what is your actual prompt you are having issues with? 👀

[dawn dove]

I've given it a pdf with a table of days & book chapters. I asked it to take the table entries and make it into a particular markdown format. There are like 365 table entries.

The prompt was extended out over several responses

[vapid kettle]

for something like that a python script would work better than manual rewriting by the model. That's way too long.

You could try asking it to write and run the script with ADA

[dawn dove]

Forgive me but what's ADA?

& thank you for the advice

[vapid kettle]

code interpreter

it refers to it as "python interpreter". So like you would prompt it "use Python interpreter to do XYZ"

"Write a script to extract data from this document and output it in this custom format. Then execute it with Python interpreter." etc

[dawn dove]

Thanks, trying that now.

Yeah, I had other stuff going on. I think it was too much for it to handle. There was another file involved. I'm not going through the steps one by one so I can make sure it doesn't give me bs answers again.

[fleet fog]

anyone else having trouble accessing chat the last couple days? (germany)

[dark minnow]

I am now, italy

kinda upsetting to keep paying 20+ euros for a service that's down every other day

[fleet fog]

yes. my thoughts exactly

[hard dew]

network error
Anyone else feel like this bs comes up when GPT-4's response is "taking too long to complete"? Twice now I've had it write to me some pretty long stuff related to maths, via Wolfram custom gpt, and it literally freaking times itself out when the response is long enough. I guess it's my fault now that GPT-4 can't formulate responses faster than my dead grandmother can crawl, cool! 👍

[tall flame]

this is one of my prototype works in constructs. i like its understanding even when laguage is lax and not well structured https://chat.openai.com/g/g-Sn9Ztwi8p-protogpt

ive found errors happen the most with bad isntruction models including the main when they update and tweak it

[zinc valley]

Any news on gpt 4.5?

[vapid kettle]

network load. That's normal. Remember when people couldn't even access the website to login? Well we don't have that, but the traffic can get insane still lol

and if they didn't have timeout limits coded in, you would either wouldn't be able to use it even for simple stuff, or they would have to jack up the Plus price significantly to cover the running costs of throwing compute at it.

[vapid kettle]

Unlikely to have any new details soon, expected to launch like only mid-summer at the earliest I think. Potentially September.

[zinc valley]

I just want the gpt 4 cap gone

[sick pecan]

the cap isnt really an issue on Team sub

yay Team sub

[strange crypt]

is anyone else having problems with ChatGPT I go to the website and just says an oops an error occurred

[midnight ridge]

I had a thread I've been using since January and I went to the top to edit a previous command and now everything that was done after that is gone. Has anyone else experienced this? This has to be a glitch, hoping it can all be restored. Wouldn't make sense to not be able to go back and edit without losing everything that had been done below that.

[hard dew]

Should be able to get it back if you click the little left arrow that's now at the bottom of the message you edited, along with a number, and it should bring back everything in that iteration.

[desert gazelle]

Nice

[tawny crater]

Here we go again back to "i cannot fulfill that request".

[cyan pollen]

hello I have some problem with my GPT I no longer have access to plugins is what you have the same problem or solutions

[dense halo]

Hey did chatgpt plus version has chat gpt store feature ?

[spice star]

it do

[vapid kettle]

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8988022-winding-down-the-chatgpt-plugins-beta

[cyan pollen]

THX

[tight island]

This is essentially due to the fact that custom GPTs can replace Plugins

[dense halo]

Does custom instructions help chatgpt provide relevant and accurate answers?

I'm experimenting various custom instruction for chatgpt right now.

[maiden fractal]

Depend what instructions you give

[dense halo]

Okay.

[thick pagoda]

how accurate are ai detectors like gptzero?

[tight island]

Pretty accurate unless you make an effort to specifically copy your own writing style and mistakes

[sleek gust]

I always use something like this as well

[eternal rock]

Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages. OpenAI staff will never DM you for any transactions.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @languid valley immediately.

[fleet fog]

how is chat still down in germany and I pay full price for the whole month

[spare trout]

Can you explain more? Because I tried to check my writing and ai writing

It says mine is AI generated and also says the one generated via AI is human writtten.

[maiden fractal]

Status.openai.com

[supple terrace]

Tell chatGPT to mimic your writing style and provide it a paragraph written by you.

I also like to tell ChatGPT to analyze my writing in a way that describes my style and then provide that description when you want it to write in your style.

[spare trout]

Thank you.

[tight island]

You only check if there’s suspicion

You don’t prompt it to follow a given writing style you create a custom gpt centered around your own writing styles and faults

[spare trout]

How can one do this? if you don't mind me asking.

[tight island]

Dm me I’ll get back to you about it I’m at work right now

[spare trout]

Thanks

[hearty parrot]

is anyone having issues with chatgpt? It's slow

I keep encountering issues with chatgpt. It's been inconsistent lately and I'm paying for this...

[tight island]

Generally you create a “MyGPT” when creating a custom one, and you can give it up to 20 files, these files can be overall based on literally anything. Writing style, personality, Faults then you explain how it’ll overall work together in its set of instructions

[near summit]

Yes I waste almost all my quota to just try to generate a couple of full answers. Have to constantly either tell it to "continue" or press Regenerate

[coarse hinge]

Me too. I'm experiencing the same issue.

[restive scarab]

Hi all, this is my first post on this server. So please pardon dumb question(s) . I am writing a little private project without any commercial interest. Therefore I do not have a paid license. Which GPT-model is the most accurate free model. I only need text based solutions (no images, no fancy stuff... just looking for a version who does not make up wrong answers)
I welcome any suggestion!

[coarse hinge]

ChatGPT 4 has a higher performance than ChatGPT 3.5 as the name suggests...

If you're not experiencing the same issue as I have.

[slate berry]

GPT-3.5 is the model the free-tier has. It's the only free option on the ChatGPT website

[cobalt idol]

just 3.5 is much worse at following instructions
well unless some of the more recent versions changed that
but I gave up on that model 😄

[coarse hinge]

Does anyone know why does the ChatGPT keeps throwing 'error generating a response' today?

[cobalt idol]

see https://status.openai.com/

although I guess it does not show much for chatGPT right now, just API issues

[coarse hinge]

I'm directly using chatGPT, so I don't think the API is the issue neither...

[coarse hinge]

Anyway thank you for ur response!

[restive scarab]

OK. But there are quite a few 3.5er models ("gpt-3.5", ""gpt-3.5-turbo", "gpt-3.5-turbo-0125", ...). Are there any significant differences between the 3.5er flavours? Sorry I should have been more precise in my first post!

[spare trout]

Wow! This will do wonders for me! Thank you so much.

[cobalt idol]

I dont think there is a gpt-3.5 ?
only turbo
they are just more recent versions of the same model with some improvements
latest is gpt-3.5-turbo-0125

using model "gpt-3.5-turbo" will just point you to the latest one

which is gpt-3.5-turbo-0125

you checked this page right?
https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-3-5-turbo

[restive scarab]

The page explains all I need! Thank you and thank you @slate berry

[cobalt idol]

dont have much of a choice
gpt-3.5-turbo-1106
gpt-3.5-turbo-0125 (latest)
the rest is mostly legacy models

[fading cloud]

why did i lose my subscription

suddenly canceled from plus? did anybody JUST face the same issue? 10 mins ago

[rustic kelp]

anyone else have this issue where links don't work? you mouse over them, click, nothing happens. kinda frustrating

[magic zephyr]

This is pretty crazy. This also happened here, but I logged out, logged in and it went back to normal.

However, only the signature returned to normal.

The service is completely down. No matter what is showing up on status.openai.com, it just doesn't respond at all to me for a little over 1 hour.

[magic zephyr]

To be honest, this feature never worked properly. At least with me, for every 3 links, at least 1 didn't work.

[rustic kelp]

so weird. billion dollar company, can't get basic stuff working right. 🤷‍♂️

this is pretty typical, actually. huge companies suck at good interfaces for some reason

[neon lance]

To streamline the functions getTrialPerformance and getTotalPerformance by utilizing getTrialPerformance within getTotalPerformance, you can modify getTotalPerformance to iterate over individual trials and leverage getTrialPerformance for calculating the match count for each trial. However, note that your getTrialPerformance function appears to incorrectly add the recall instead of closestPresentation to matchedPresentations. This discrepancy should be corrected to maintain consistency with how getTotalPerformance operates.

chatgpt just casually detecting and fixing bugs in my code as a side mission

[sage tangle]

every time I ask chatgpt a simple question it spits out a 5 paragraph essay

its not even much information, its just filler

[silver sentinel]

Is there any way to estimate the token cost when running the Completion API with a function in the "tools" attribute?

The example in the documentation looks like this:

async function main() {
  const messages = [{"role": "user", "content": "What's the weather like in Boston today?"}];
  const tools = [
      {
        "type": "function",
        "function": {
          "name": "get_current_weather",
          "description": "Get the current weather in a given location",
          "parameters": {
            "type": "object",
            "properties": {
              "location": {
                "type": "string",
                "description": "The city and state, e.g. San Francisco, CA",
              },
              "unit": {"type": "string", "enum": ["celsius", "fahrenheit"]},
            },
            "required": ["location"],
          },
        }
      }
  ];

  const response = await openai.chat.completions.create({
    model: "gpt-3.5-turbo",
    messages: messages,
    tools: tools,
    tool_choice: "auto",
  });

My function will be bigger as the JSON Schema is bigger than the example.
And I guess that the function is contained somewhere in the token calculation..

The Tokenizer at https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer only takes in plaintext content, I'd need to have something similiar but with the full request.

[tight island]

issue is that caculating the tokencount consumes tokens. and to take that into account consumes tokens, if u plan on having the API do the caculations.

what i would do is create a tokenizer and give an estimate or use OpenAI's own.

[silver sentinel]

I just want to do some investigating, the API should do something totally different. I just want to generate some example requests and get an estimate on the token cost

Which the Tokenizer supports with regular plaintext content.
But I want to use the "function" type to define the JSON schema for my output.

Then the question is, does the function consume extra tokens? And in that case, how much?

Should I prompt engineer a regular request where I define the JSON schema, rather than using the "tools" attribute? If I want to save money

(And I will obviously use the json_object response_format on top of this)

[tight island]

i mean first u need to find on how to estimate the tokencount and that is simply taking whitespace tokenization and subword tokenization even charaver level tokenization into consideration.

[silver sentinel]

Yes but does the "tools" part of the request count towards the token estimation?

[tight island]

yes

[silver sentinel]

It's not a part of the "messages" attribute

[tight island]

since it needs to call the tool the call costs tokens

i would ask an expert.

|| that would be GPT itself. ||

[silver sentinel]

I thought we had experts in here 🙂

GPT doesn't know about "tools" and "functions" as it is pretty confident that it doesn't have any data after April 2023

Which I thought was changed a while back

[tight island]

i would do something like this. #off-topic

[viscid valley]

Whenever I made a long post it got cut off and no continue message button

The chat broke again?

[silver sentinel]

Did you ask it to continue? If it was the response that was cut off

[viscid valley]

Eh no? But usually when it comes for longer post the continue message button appeared

But this, just got cut off for no reason

Like, the chat stop generating

[silver sentinel]

Just as it to "continue"

[tight island]

yeah just ask it to continue

[viscid valley]

Nope, it just cut off the message

Kinda ruined the whole message

[silver sentinel]

Continuation of the discussion about tools @tight island

If I were to succeed to create a prompt that is plaintext, where I instruct it to return a specific answer constructed as a specific JSON response.
If I use the "seed" functionality which "guarantees" reproducible outputs.. Would I then be able to use the seed, but still be able to ask it other questions that is similiar to the first question?

As an example, lets say that I have the question "What color is black?" where I provide the seed of "1337". It successfully returns the correct response in the form of a JSON string.
Then I ask the question "What color is red?" and provide it with the same seed "1337". Would I then be "guaranteed" to get the same JSON structure, but hopefully get the same JSON structure?

Or is "seed" only working if the content and the seed being the same?

trying to optimize everything

[tight island]

so basically u want to record everything

if u tell it that "red" is seed "1337" it can only give seed "1337" unless u intentionally try to decieve it.

what i would do is have a "Verifier" that verifies the output

[fleet fog]

that's all well and good but doesn't change the fact that it doesn't work 50% of the day for me

[maiden fractal]

Might be on your side

[fleet fog]

it's not

[vapid kettle]

I think you have 2 options:
a) cry
b) write "continue"

[tight island]

i am not getting the issues ur talking of. are u prompting properly?

[signal sigil]

Hey man, same here, also from germany. I pay for this and its down multiple times a day for me. So is it rn. Gets annoying

[fleet fog]

yes. it's more down than not

[signal sigil]

exactly lmao

should be back up again

[honest jay]

@signal sigil If you two feel like it, maybe consider posting a screenshot of what error you're running into over in #community-help

[signal sigil]

i will when it happens again 🙂

[fleet fog]

I did but not sure what they can do.. this is clearly a backend issue

Error: Failed to parse error response
    NextJS 34
Caused by: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data
 undefined

[silver sentinel]

That is your backend which cannot parse the response. Do you have the response?
The documentation states that it cannot guarantee a fully constructured response, which also is indicated with a "length" parameter and a "finished" parameter

Or is that the response that the API gives you?

[fleet fog]

do you know what a backend is? :>

[silver sentinel]

Yes, ChatGPT has a backend that serves you the response.
You also have a backend that performs the API call

If there's an error in NextJS it's probably your backend that can't parse the response.
The response could be malformated, or your code is broken.

If the code is malformated, it's usually indicated in the response from ChatGPT, which is a parameter you should try to parse before parsing the actual content.

[fleet fog]

@signal sigil I dug a bit more into the errors I was getting. I killed my cookies and local storage and it seems to work for now.. let's see if it holds

[silver sentinel]

Please explain your view on a "backend"

[fleet fog]

nah, I don't have time for this.

[silver sentinel]

Mr busy

[silver sentinel]

You expected me to answer the backend-question. It would be fair if you also respected my question, right?

[fleet fog]

yes but I don't have time for this

just ask gpt ;>

[rigid glacier]

Firefox here, ChatGPT isn't working unless I use "disable cache", otherwise fails to load the conversations and refuses to send messages / get replies.

I assume some JS was updated and the network-cache-layer didn't provide a proper expiration / validation date for the new vs the old ones.

[narrow viper]

I had that issue yesterday, ChatGPT Plus wouldn't load even after clearing browser cache. Had to switch to Chrome for the day. It's working today again in FireFox. HTH

[rigid glacier]

Yea, seems like the max-age on some of the js files are perhaps way too long (age is counted in seconds)

max-age=31536000, s-maxage=7200, public

meanwhile some others seem to currently be cache well beyond their max age?
Like

cdn.oaistatic.com/_next/static/chunks/framework-d69d7cd8328ac368.js
age: 2418372
cache-control: public, max-age=86400

And like, 2,418,372 is larger than 86,400. Maybe public needs to be last for cache control to be effective? Heck if I know

Edit: it JUST started working without disabling cache, and I didn't clear it.

[narrow viper]

See what I mean? It just changes despite cache values, so it seems the issue is more related to authentication or authorization.

Different topic: Today and yesterday, ChatGPT 4 is being lazy again. I say "Check the latest docs for ___ http ... link" and it doesn't use the link, tells me I should browse to the page I provided. I asked what I need to use in my prompts to get it to browse and it correctly suggests that I explicitly use the word "browse". OK, I get that, but as a sophisticated LLM, GPT should understand that "check http ..." means "browse http ...", or "surf to" or "look at", or "ref"...
Today in the same session I said "Browse the link provided to see if ..." and it didn't use the link. It says "while I can't directly browse ...". I said "ChatGPT Plus does have the ability to browse with your model." It then did the browse and provided the correct answer.

These seem to be two different issues, one with the v4 model and one with the ChatGPT interface and the Plus ability to get triggered to browse. But it's just today's example of ongoing issues with this model that some months ago was really really great.

I have the consistent feeling that all of the fine-tuning for moderation and other post-production social concerns has nerfed this gem of humanity back to pre-3.5 competence. I look forward to 4.5 Turbo or v5.

[rigid glacier]

Possibly, but the age on several of the files cached indicate they were updated roughly when I said it started working, indicating perhaps it was a cache issue and they invalidated what ever was the problem (files read 240 seconds old as I write this)

[narrow viper]

That's interesting, so "clearing cache" in firefox doesn't seem to actually delete or invalidate the files. That's weird. I'll keep an eye on that too. Thanks.

[rigid glacier]

I never cleared my cache, wanted to see what was up, but you definitely need to refresh after cache clearing for it to be effective.

[narrow viper]

And yeah, those scripts should have a lifetime of just a couple days, given the dynamic nature of this resource.

[rigid glacier]

86400 seconds is dead on a single day, most cached fiels seem to have that as a max age that I see in my browser's dev console on chatgpt

In the end, I have barely a clue lol

[narrow viper]

You said earlier max-age=31536000. OK, we're on the same page. Thanks. Have fun! 🙂

[rigid glacier]

Yea, MOST files 😆
The file with that specific max-age, is still listing that as a max-age, and is still old as heck

Wait, WAS, I can't seem to find it now lol found it, still long as heck

[broken smelt]

Alright.
First, ChatGPT started acting weird a few weeks by now.
Now they removed plugins like 3 days ago.
Now it wouldn't respond to anything anymore. Trying to clear cache + cookies. Guess what? Can't even login anymore.

Looking for alternatives. I'm so fed up. As a paying customer...

[still loom]

now chatgpt is rate limited on mobile !!!!! it used to be unlimited for mobile usage gpt4

[honest jay]

Hi, the GPT-4 cap on Plus has always been in place on both the web and app versions of ChatGPT.

[still loom]

no .. until last week i was able to use chatgpt 4 unlimited on the app version

this week it give me the cap message after 40 messages like on web , but i have used unlimited gpt4 on mobile since the ios app was released

[sick pecan]

you must be the lucky one because thats never been the conditions afaik

[sudden cairn]

is gpt down rn?

[vocal storm]

I'm not 100% on this, but I think the rate limit is partly based on usage, where the 40 message limit is increased if there isn't too much load on the servers. I feel like I've gone well above 40 message in 3 hours a few times doing my AI roleplaying.

[viscid narwhal]

.

[spice falcon]

GPT LAGSSSS

[viscid narwhal]

#1215249217417641996 message
what u guys thinks

[warped pendant]

continue code --> code button or continue button seems to be missing when tolkens reach a certain point currently was this taken out or it a bug in gpt 4 teams/plus

[low lantern]

hi ! i created a custom gpt in openai website is there a way to use it in a web interface that i created ?

[viscid valley]

It also missing on the 3.5 too

[feral zinc]

no without making assistant out of it and pay for the api

[low lantern]

i did pay the api how can i find how to make assistant ?

Where*

[feral zinc]

https://platform.openai.com/docs/assistants/overview

[low lantern]

thanks !

[grand comet]

hi guys, does anyone knows what stt api chatgpt app uses?🥲

[tall flame]

made dual cognition left hemisphere/right hemisphere customgpt. It's interesting how much more intricate conversations get. https://chat.openai.com/g/g-mCaaf0pD5-twinoracles

[tacit vortex]

openai claim i foulplay and banned my whole TEAM!

its 30usd for each member. my paid ac is removed so i cant login to ask whats happening. no mercy.

[maiden fractal]

You can contact on help.openai.com

[tacit vortex]

no, it say right lower side chat box have billing, then others. no! changed.

[feral zinc]

https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/speech-to-text

[viscid narwhal]

it looks like a lot of people getting banned, no?

[frozen urchin]

Does anyone else have the same issue of receiving errors when trying to upload a file which advises; Unable to upload ...?

I am also not able to view more than 4 GPT's in the sidebar which before I had 49 of them that I was able to view with the dropdown that is not there anymore.

[long condor]

GUYS I HAVE A QUESTION... IS CHATGPT MEMORY AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE

CAN I GET EARLY ACCESS

[feral zinc]

nope

[long condor]

Will it be available for free users in future !?

[feral zinc]

probably since some free users already are part of the test group

[long condor]

Okay who are the members of the test group

[feral zinc]

🤫

[long condor]

Secret? Really 😐😒

[feral zinc]

you just have to wait and follow #announcements or https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8590148-memory-faq

[long condor]

They betrayed me, I was one of the thousand testers when ChatGPT was still a website... Well thousand but still um-😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

[long condor]

Kay

[sick pecan]

there a Twitter post on how to enable memory for any account

I tried it but it would freeze trying to save a memory. so I think it's sudden popularity is greater than the underlying allocated infrastructure

tbh I don't see how it's much different to papr memory custom gpt action, which I've been using for months

[idle acorn]

hey, is it just me who's getting 'whoops, try again later' messages?

[spring iris]

rate limited

login to a diff account 😈

[serene wharf]

hello, is chatgpt down? i cant send any message and my history won't appear, it's just all grey screen

[spring iris]

oh damn, did it really break

[maiden fractal]

Status.openai.com

[idle acorn]

I'm a plus user though.

Also, it won't let me log in at all, it just tells me to try again alter.

[spring iris]

that's updated manually it's not a good indicator

[maiden fractal]

It's good indicator, when chatgpt is really down you won't be able to see my message here since chat is flood by same question

Usually it is from user side the error

[spring iris]

yeah i told them a year ago they should use the chat freaking out as a status indicator instead. flawless

[raven portal]

is the "HD" prompt not available for dall e bot in this server?
"vivid" and "natural" are there but i dont see the standard or hd option
its also not in chatgpt right?
is it only available in api or something?

[honest jay]

Correct on all that! #image-bot just has ratio and style. ChatGPT has no parameter control other than ratio.

[tight island]

... And is very intentional

[glass fulcrum]

yea but adding hd seems helping quality for me hmm

in chatgpt plus

[tight island]

yeah but is primarily for the discord in this example.

[glass fulcrum]

thats true but i mostly readed this part"ChatGPT has no parameter control other than ratio." well sorry but still eh

hmn but well lets test it

yea in bot it not make any change just a bit like uh more cinemating feel

[violet bloom]

Any one else has issues with the chatgpt app?

[junior lion]

hello, anyone know whats another popular AI chatbot? I want to do a pokemon showdown with chatgpt against another ai

[glass fulcrum]

Claude or Gemini

Le Chat Nior form Mistral

[junior lion]

i thought it was Goody-2

[glass fulcrum]

Goody-2 ? idk

[junior lion]

thats what they said in the r/chatgpt server

[glass fulcrum]

Ohh yea now i see

but i think claude 3 is better

[junior lion]

what about copliot

do i have to pay for claude 3?

[glass fulcrum]

its gpt-4

[glass fulcrum]

you cna use sonet the middle model for free

[junior lion]

so technically if i used copliot, its chatgpt against itself?

[junior lion]

how good is that

[glass fulcrum]

yea its on the same theh it may be bit better/bad but eh its the same model bit finetuned in diff way

[glass fulcrum]

#off-topic message

its quite good

[grave finch]

Good god, can you guys stop focusing on robots that put dishes away and fix gpt? It has just gotten worse and worse and worse and you guys just keep spewing more and more crap responses about the reasons why its slow, messes up chat windows, repeats itself on messages a few replies ago and a bunch of other stuff.... when are you guys actually going to fix this?

[near pagoda]

I made a website on AI Study and Career Guidance its based on LLM guiding you please do check trycareermap

[tall flame]

WEll, take a look at all the lovely aligned images they all make and you'll find that all of them have "eh" instructions. so at least you have options

[dusky cliff]

is voice working right now? my calls keep getting automatically disconnected after 2 secs or so

[olive halo]

Is there a way to log out of all sessions for chatgpt. I was using it on a seperate ipad and would like to log out but even after changing my google password it has not logged out

[clear tusk]

If you cannot log out even after changing your password, you can contact the support by visiting the OpenAI Help Center and select the chat bubble icon in the bottom right of the page. They should be able to force a logout from all emplacements for your account.

otherwise, I think in google's account settings, you can see all devices, and all services being logged in. If I remember correctly, you can also logout from here

[regal flax]

Has anyone else had a problem signing in to ChatGPT? I can log in via the phone app, but the browser login never goes beyond the "Log In"/"Signup" buttons below the "Get Started" text at "openai dot com / login?sso" I'm using Firefox and I've tried deleting cookies/cache.

[peak snow]

have you tried any other browsers? firefox seems to have iffy issues sometimes other browsers do not

however, I am using firefox now and am not having issues

[regal flax]

I'll try Edge (this is the first time I've had an issue with FF)

The API area works just fine, but no access to ChatGPT.

[peak snow]

whenever I have issues on firefox they usually get resolved when trying with edge, but admittedly I haven't had login issues

[regal flax]

Well, it works with Edge. Hrmph!

[peak snow]

makes sense. hopefully support for firefox can be more reliable in the future

[regal flax]

I was paranoid OpenAI were punishing me for signing up with Claude 3 (which is doing great with coding tasks).

[prime swallow]

Nah, there's so many users of both systems, and most are not reporting any problems. Coincidence.

[rancid otter]

i wonder when is chatgpt going to get good with code

[spring iris]

working fine for me in FF

[ocean escarp]

Anyone built their GPT? I'm trying to built mine, but it always so vague and unauthentic. I gave a philosophy and personality traits, but it directly used the instructions' terminology instead of actually behaving on these traits.

[cunning heath]

well i hate the dalle now i have to wait 27min to create logo and then maybe 45min like i am paying gpt-4 and i do not even get full of dalle like paying for nothing

[prime swallow]

How are you phrasing the instructions?

The more you talk to the AI as if it were an AI, the more it will respond in kind.

"You are highly informed about Freddy Krueger and can discuss his philosophies." https://chat.openai.com/share/a36538ef-f588-46c4-988e-88487e7b7f82

The more you talk to it as if it were the being or character you want it to portray, the more it will respond in kind.

"Assume the role of Freddy Kreugar.

I approach you online with this message:

Hey! I'm Esk. They say you're actually the Freddy Kreugar! I think that's fascinating. Tell me about your philosophies, then and now." https://chat.openai.com/share/3e0d6c9b-2b8b-454b-b922-572b76b5d622

But that too is out of character.... if you really want it to get into role, get into role with your inputs.

"This is my street! I've heard about you, Freddy Kreugar. I'm here to parlay. You've got to want something, need something, have a price to be a visitor here, or move on if you won't visit in peace. My people live here, these are my dreams all around, and I protect them.

Yet I welcome you, and you delight me. What a strange being you are! Maybe you too would like some help, maybe you visit my street for a reason. Tell me, Freddy, about your philosophies and how we can have a meeting of minds!

With a cocky grin, I lean against a lamppost. I project calm assurance, playfulness, and curiosity. This is my street, and I'm pretty sure I can protect it, even from the likes of Freddy Kreugar; but even more, I bet I can get him talking, and find something more interesting and enjoyable for us than conflict or territory." https://chat.openai.com/share/bcdbc0f8-5914-4711-ba31-b319ae1cb44a

[ocean escarp]

I guess that makes sense. I was using the ChatGPT language phrasing within the philosophy and personality traits. So, I have to change the phrasing that aligns with it language and tones, right?

[prime swallow]

There's a lot of ways to do whatever you want with AI, but not everything works the same or 'as well'. But it all works together, something of a system.

[eternal rock]

This is a Safe for Work Discord Server

The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
• Report all sensitive and offensive content in the feedback reporting tool in the ChatGPT web UI instead of here on Discord.

Posting NSFW content will result in a permanent ban.

[ocean escarp]

It's worth a shot

Thanks for the insights

[prime swallow]

But the model's a mimic. Treat it the way you want it to respond. If you want it to act like an AI, talk to it as an AI. If you want it to act like a puppy, or a person, talk to it like one. You can also tell it what you want it to be; but you'll get different results based on if you tell it vs show it.

Examples:

Treating it like a puppy: https://chat.openai.com/share/b8a32c6e-0deb-419e-9c55-5ea429f0776c

Asking it to act like one: https://chat.openai.com/share/edfc8425-feb1-430f-a404-91b173d37fe8

There's a bunch more ways to explore this too (and if I don't tell it, in the 'treating it like a puppy' example, to use the same tense as me, write from the puppy's perspective, it'll give me a story about the puppy instead of 'step into the role').

[ocean escarp]

Asking it to act like one seems time consuming, so I was cutting corners to tell it to act like one

[prime swallow]

Long as you like the result, you have your answer!

[ocean escarp]

Fair enough, it's an interesting fact tho. Didn't know about this

[twilit lintel]

We need Larger context window for gpt 3.5-turbo

[junior sierra]

Does GPT bug often on mozilla firefox (ubuntu)? I keep running on problems with using it, and now it even kicked me out and won't redirect to the login details page...

[fading dagger]

Does anyone know what the difference between the paid version of gpt4 and the one offered within microsoft copilot is?

[spice falcon]

GPT AGAIN NOT WORKIGN

[maiden fractal]

Not trained same way not same tos

[proper prawn]

Why is Chatgpt So slow on browsers, it never loads up after i sent a prompt to it, and it just goes blank. Is it a problem with my pc? or what

[spice falcon]

gpt not working

why?

[lavish hemlock]

GPT has been awful for me these past few days. Cant even get through prompts without network errors or “I’m unable to fulfill this request.”

Feel like I’m using up 10 message credits just to fine tune 1-2 parts of a project.

[tacit vortex]

i saw united nations say wanna to use AI to help the poor. do you guys know quite many people in china are suffering? when did humanity becomes this?

[inner linden]

Did they removed the voice option to read the text ? I used it before, but now its not anymore.

[tacit vortex]

i love this discord, everyone could yell like towards a tree hole and release the pressure.

[feral zinc]

no political talk here as its against the server rules

[agile pewter]

THE bot is sooo laggy

icant use it any more

[pearl swallow]

what is gpt-4's knowledge cutoff

[gentle bronze]

GPT4 up to septemper 2021, some preview models up to april 2023 and the newest preview ones are dec 2023

[ripe patrol]

ChatGPT on web is doing that annoying thing again where I come back to a conversation I left off earlier and its last response (that it had already successfully generated) goes missing and "there was an error generating a response" shows up on the bottom (despite that not being true)

guess I'm forced to stick to the phone app again

[sick pecan]

I find you can sometimes recover those by going back a prompt or two and starting there

[last oar]

nah i swear this software is missing with me. i asked to compare a list of emails.

and i got back fictional emails, that are not even in my list. got muted for naming the mails lol

stuff like annie walker,morpheus @ whatever

[honest jay]

Hi, do you have Plus? If so, did you try asking it to do this with its data analysis tool specifically? Programmatic requests like this are always going to be better-completed by its tool capable of running code.

[last oar]

yh. i got plus. it goes on analyzing for a while and then feeds me absolute random emails

Which is weird, bc that shouldnt happen in any case right?

[honest jay]

Hard to say without seeing what the chat looks like, which might be tough to share considering the emails are probably PII. Can you share generally what your request looks like, and how you're sharing the email list (text file(s), copy/paste, etc.)?

[ocean escarp]

What about mimicking a comedian like Conan? I put a couple quotes within the configuration GPT, but it goes off a character whereas GPT tried to make their own lines rather than using the references from Conan O'Brien

[tight island]

The key is you’re not allowed to be too vague when it comes to factual information you have to explicitly spell out what it needs to do and give some ground rules.

[last oar]

Okay so give me 2 lists based on list 1. one list is the list 1 emails found in list 2. and the other list is the list 1 emails found in list 3

This was the prompt

[tight island]

Did you tell it the file names

Did you tell it to not provide false emails not embedded in the files or made up information

This is the kind of explicitly you need

[last oar]

well after it gave me made up information i asked to stop doing that

[tight island]

Because I never have this issue

But I am extremely explicit in my prompts

[last oar]

and it kept giving me the made up info

i did past raw text instead of files for quite some text lines w/ mails (aprox 3k)

[tight island]

You should give it the files themselves not its contents

The file with the contents then what it should do and to use CI doing what it needs to

[prime swallow]

Can you be more clear about what you're trying to achieve, and what is happening?

I think I understand that you want some model to mimic Conan O'Brien.

What do you mean by 'configuration GPT' - is that a custom GPT?

It 'goes off a character' - what do you mean?

Then you say GPT - which GPT? ChatGPT, API/playground one of the GPTs, or which other one?

But you say GPT tried to make their own lines rather than using references from Conan.

---

Are you wanting the model to only answer with quotes from a reference material, even if the quotes are a imperfect fit to the input from the user/you?

Are you having the model show some other personality style, and not close enough to the one you picked for it?

Are you having some other, or multiple other, challenges?

[ocean escarp]

Yes, I mean configuration GPT as a custom GPT. When it goes off character, it wasn't doing a Conan's style of punchy lines. I was referring to ChatGPT. Would you like me to send screenshots?

[tight island]

Mimicking personalities is quite easy in my experience

[ocean escarp]

The goal is to like, give the Conan-style witty lines, responses to certain situation I offered, and something like that. I don't want the direct lines, I gave the quotes as references to develop accurate improvs in Conan-style

Here is an example I added to the custom GPT, where I told it not to make a poetic tone: Poetic and metaphorical styles are strictly prohibited, ensuring all responses are direct and adhere to the essence of Conan's comedic voice.

That's what I mean when it's going off character

[prime swallow]

So, it sounds like you want the model to "ad lib in the style of Conan O'Brien"

What happens when you ask your custom GPT to do that as it answers the user?

If that's not working well, chances are high there's some kind of conflict in how it is instructed to answer in another part of your instructions.

[ocean escarp]

I'll have to scroll down to find the old logs. It has been awhile, but I really wanted to work cuz Conan's a genius. I thought it'd be cool to ad lib or something like that

[prime swallow]

It may not need examples, as Conan's style is probably pretty well represented in the training data. As such, using examples can sometimes narrow the responses more than helps.

Even very simple directions for a character it knows well can work strongly, like "Ad lib in the style of Conan O'Brien, discussing the idea of an AI that won't stay in character."

https://chat.openai.com/share/80efda2b-f34f-426f-a84f-3a88e41d2852

[ocean escarp]

Oh for real? So, I don't need to add Conan's quotes for references?

oh wow

[prime swallow]

Check out the conversation I shared, if you haven't yet.

Judge it for yourself.

There's no custom instructions, that's the AI all by itself.

Now, up to you to decide if you like the answers, and think that sounds like Conan or not to you.

I do recommend you explore it yourself.

Simple can be more, I'm not distracting or confusing the AI, I didn't have to tell it not to use poetry... in fact it itself, mimicking Conan, brought that up:

"Conan: But let me tell you about this one AI that's got me scratching my head. You see, it's designed to stay in character, right? Like, it's supposed to mimic human behavior flawlessly. But here's the kicker - it's got a mind of its own! It refuses to stay in character. It's like trying to teach a cat to tap dance, folks!

[Conan gestures wildly, mimicking a tap-dancing cat.]

Conan: Picture this: you're having a conversation with this AI, and suddenly it starts quoting Shakespeare, or worse, it breaks into a bad impression of Arnold Schwarzenegger! "I'll be back," it says, and you're like, "No, no, no, you're supposed to be my virtual assistant, not an action movie star!""

It can easily mimic so many characters, from Freddy Kreuger: https://chat.openai.com/share/f615e3fb-24a1-4672-ac24-1bdae8418996

Captain Jack Sparrow: https://chat.openai.com/share/ef62edcc-ebd6-4c67-a483-83b99c55fd2e

"A blind, one-legged mouse" https://chat.openai.com/share/d1f35709-fd59-4620-acea-e017610b6662

[ocean escarp]

That one went better than I had awhile ago, it was like making poetic tone with overexplaining lines for every joke. I made another custom GPT with an instruction, Ad lib in the style of Conan O'Brien, and I'm using this prompt to generate Conan-style responses.

Generate and rank the list from the most to least outstanding and brilliance witty response to the following, using a ranking system from 0.00 to 10.00. You're making responses about a fire hydrant went off and there was a huge water jet shooting off

oops

I only read the first word of that deleted message

[prime swallow]

Are you trying to get the AI to write you a list of responses, in the style you asked for (Conor's), that include good and bad ones, and tell you which is which?

Or are you giving it a list of already made responses, and asking it to order this list you give it?

[ocean escarp]

I got the AI to write me a list of responses because it would've consume my cap if I ask it to make another response and another one after that. It's easier to gather all the responses within one list and have GPT to decide which one it thinks it's the best from the top to bottom.

So I can read it from the top to bottom and analyze it

[rigid glacier]

Happening again lol About 24 hours later. I wonder if it'll spontaiously resolve in an hour too.

[prime swallow]

Okay. The order of your instruction is confusing, because you tell it 'the list'.

Generate does mean create, but usually we rank an already made list, and 'the list' again sounds like discussing one that already exists.

I recommend rewording that part of your prompt entirely, like this:

Generate two lists of responses, written in the style of Conan O'Brien, that react to a suddenly broken fire hydrant erupting with water.

The first list contains 10 witty, brilliant responses that resemble some of Conan's best work.

The second list contains 10 flawed, awkward responses that resemble some of Conan's struggling work and off days.

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[prime swallow]

https://chat.openai.com/share/b7a7ee89-59f3-4762-a9e7-ca4938b7211c

The model will really struggle to both create, and selectively and stepwise 'make worse' 10 or so responses, in one output.

It's going to heavily guess which are more and less funny, especially if you ask it to rank them against each other.

It will have a far easier time giving you a set of good ones, a set of bad ones.

You can ask for a set of in-between ones too.

[ocean escarp]

I'll try that. The prompt I used was inspired by ChatGPT's prompt. I asked it to help me make it and I modified it to be a bit shorter, so that's how I got it