#chatgpt-discussions

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prime swallow
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That seems likely to be a hallucinatory answer.

You may need to tell it to do the search.

It doesn't have a way to 'do stuff for later', with the AI it is 'now or never'. Though the search can take a bit of time, but you see it happening 'now' if it is.

worthy lynx
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Hallucinations, ergh

prime swallow
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It could help to share your chat, if there's nothing private in it, so we can see what isn't quite going right and try to suggest how to work around it.

I tried a sample conversation. In it, the citations are blue numbers after it discusses stuff, you see by hovering over. I'll drop a screenshot where images can be shown.

prime swallow
dense halo
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bruh why does bing chat have access to my location

worthy lynx
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upbeat acorn
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Lot's of people are having this issue. There are some community discussions and bugs under the #1070006915414900886 , but there doesn't seem to be any traction anywhere regarding fixing this. Definitely very disruptive issue that leads to a frustrating user experience. Hope this issue somehow gets some traction 😦

ocean warren
# upbeat acorn Lot's of people are having this issue. There are some community discussions and ...

Thanks! I found one discussion, link below, I wasn't sure if I was the only one getting this. Now I believe this is not a bug but a feature of some "smart" PM wanting to inspire us to turn on chat history. Instead of waiting for a fix that prob won't come, I'm moving on to using the openAI API via tools that will allow me to keep privacy ( example ; open access GPT) there should be plenty similar out there but chatGPT wouldn't help me search for it 🥲 // Here's one discussion on the issue : https://community.openai.com/t/chatgpt-bug-oct-4-chat-history-off-current-conversation-session-getting-wiped-after-short-inactivity/412462/62

fleet basin
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How do you get gpt to speak to you and for you to be able to speak to it? I am a premium member and can't see how to do it

normal quarry
fleet basin
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tysm

prime swallow
wet night
fleet basin
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oh found it!!!

prime swallow
jade musk
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Been a long user of chatgpt. How come I haven’t get the latest beta features yet? 🥺 saw someone who just made an account and paid subscription got visions and images.

toxic flax
prime swallow
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It's a random rollout coming to us all, but some features need to find the setting to turn on. Check here for instructions for each: #openai-chatter message

fleet basin
winged moth
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Did anyone get the new features today? If not it sounds like our theory that no roll outs while they're on holiday was correct

grizzled shard
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GPT ded?

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nvm

warm token
grizzled shard
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fair enough, glad im not just goin loco

novel parcel
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why is plus so expensive

winged moth
novel parcel
ionic geyser
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Vision/Voice should be fully rolled out by now but I don't have access yet. Anyone know why/when

novel parcel
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same

ionic geyser
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Been checking every day for most of the 2 weeks and on the last day still not here 😐

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Kinda getting tired of this how im spending $20/month and not getting everything other people are paying same price for

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they should offer a partial refund or something

winged moth
ionic geyser
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also got Dall-E without signing up for it before Vision/Voice... :|

uneven aurora
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When will we get access to image for chat gpt 4 ?

ionic geyser
uneven aurora
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did anybody got already ?

ionic geyser
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a lot did

novel parcel
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only dalle 3

uneven aurora
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is it based on country or what

ionic geyser
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you're talking about vision right? or DallE?

placid cradle
# jade musk Been a long user of chatgpt. How come I haven’t get the latest beta features yet...

get out the pitchforks and torches!! Kidding… mostly… lol… 😂 But yea - I feel ya - I understand sometimes things don’t go as planned so if they take longer than the 2 weeks they said in the blog, I get it…

But as someone who has (gladly) paid for plus as soon as it was offered, it would give me some warm fuzzies to feel like loyal early adopters were prioritized a bit over brand new users. I get it they probably want a good mix for the early roll out feedback, but to be at the 2 week date mentioned in the blog, and me, my wife, (both subscribers from the start) and it appears many other early adopters do not have it yet, when some brand new users have it, does sting a little bit. (I know firstworldproblems, lol)

uneven aurora
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like I didnt got anythign

uneven aurora
ionic geyser
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Alr cause im pretty sure DallE shipped to US/UK first

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country definitely has something to due with it

uneven aurora
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if we use vpn

toxic flax
uneven aurora
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could I get earlier access ?

ionic geyser
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I've had a VPN disable certain features (iirc) so maybe it can enable them

novel parcel
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there was a form to sign

ionic geyser
novel parcel
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for dalle

novel parcel
winged moth
ionic geyser
tall pivot
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tall pivot
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Or not, I tried VPN, did not work. @uneven aurora

ionic geyser
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"We’re rolling out voice and images in ChatGPT to Plus and Enterprise users over the next two weeks" on Sept 25th

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oh well, just keep waiting ig

tall pivot
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I believe at least a month.

prime swallow
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To be fair(er), it does say rolling out across the next two weeks, but doesn't actually state it'll for sure be done by then.

But hey, they're doing the best they can, there's millions of us, they have to scale the systems, and if it takes a bit longer - then it takes a bit longer. I hope we all have everything soon, and we do know it's coming 🙂

ionic geyser
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dam

tall pivot
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so not Vision for another two weeks, I believe

ionic geyser
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i reeeally hope i get it tonight!

topaz ocean
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What do you want to do with it? @ionic geyser

winged moth
placid cradle
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prime swallow
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Some folks have image on app or web, but not the other.

Be sure to check the 'default GPT-4' for image upload icon, the other configurations of 4 don't have it.

ionic geyser
winged mirage
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Voice is pretty cool. Thought it would be just like any other voice assistant but the voice is scarily good. The breaths and everything. Can't wait to try out vision.

winged moth
placid cradle
# prime swallow To be fair(er), it does say rolling out across the next two weeks, but doesn't a...

FWIW I think just saying it’s a blog post, not a contract is a better case to make than “they didn’t say for sure it would be done by then” From my POV the way the blog is worded, clearly implies plus users can expect to have the feature by today.

But sure - it’s a blog post, not a contract and stuff happens, particularly on the bleeding edge… so I get that. The thing for me, that stings a bit, is hearing about brand new users getting it. If scale is the problem, unless they severely misjudged the scaling (which I wouldn’t blame them for) it does seem like by today, the day mentioned in the blog, it could have at least been rolled out to everyone who subscribed the first day or week plus was available. 

It could well be they are prioritizing new users who are signing up specifically for these features… from a business standpoint, I can see how that makes sense too… I mean - I’ve been paying for months, am I really going to cancel because I have to wait a few extra days/weeks… obviously not… so maybe being a long time paying customer is actually a down side, because they figure they already have you hooked… lol

All that said - still - while it’s disappointing, I do try to keep it in perspective… like seriously… how bad is my life because I don’t have these cool new features yet… lol… If I really REALLY want to talk to an AI I can always use PI… (Even if it’s I find it’s fawning annoying… lol) 😂

knotty willow
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For vision, when you get it, is it a setting to enable in beta features ? Or it just is there ?

winged moth
knotty willow
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Fr ?

winged moth
winged moth
# knotty willow Fr ?

Vision icon will just be there. But if you're in the EU or UK you might not get it as soon as people in the US from what I hear. But don't quote me. You might want to check the announcement 🙂

knotty willow
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Yeah it's delayed for us

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That kinda sucks

prime swallow
# placid cradle FWIW I think just saying it’s a blog post, not a contract is a better case to ma...

Hey, I'm just a person like you. Aware of the #server-rules and trying to help us all find more enjoyable ways to 'Keep the negativity to a minimum. (part of Rule 1) as we all see what we have and what we can do next.

If AGI helps us live much longer lives, fairness might have to shift towards 'random for all' order instead of 'seniority first' - Are we who were here first actually 'better' in some way? Helping everyone, as reasonably as possible, does seem to be the company's goal in general.

I don't see any preference for the new customers either. It looks, the little I hear, like it's a full mix of everyone getting everything in their supported areas, with a random rollout to all members.

I can't write OAI's blogs for them, or rewrite 'em. But helping our community be as upbeat as reasonable, and remain a source of motivation and enthusiasm for the OAI employees who look here - that's a worthy goal. I want them (who cares what I want, though?) if they glance here, to think "Wow, how can I help these great people even more" instead of feel "Wow, I worked so hard and look at how angry they are, what's the point of my effort anyway?" Or any of the other possible downsides.

So, let's wait with bated breath! Offering to race you to be the last to get the new features (I don't control that either, but it could happen!) - I don't have everything yet either.

prime swallow
knotty willow
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Good to know, thanks. Also, I'll travel for a while soon, outside Europe. If for some reason it enables the features, it shouldn't turn them back off when I get back home right ?

prime swallow
knotty willow
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Let's hope it unlocks it lol. I've heard some people did it with a VPN, so I suppose 3 weeks of real IP addresses should do it

glacial lantern
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Bryce Huhtala — Today at 4:42 PM
When we're talking about the new 'voice' feature, is it speech-to-text or text-to-speech? My chatgpt app has the little microphone icon to transcribe my speech, but I don't see anything about text-to-speech

prime swallow
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Voice is fully audio, there's no typing in that mode. After, you get a transcript of both you and the AI's speech.

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If you want to read what the AI says, as well as hear it, you'd need to have another device and refresh the conversation to see the output appear

glacial lantern
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Huh, I see. When I use it on my app, it just transcribes my speech into the text box and I can submit that. I'm wondering if I'm confusing my phone's general speech recognition for a new feature 😁

prime swallow
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think so!

glacial lantern
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That makes more sense, thanks!

winged moth
minor vortex
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Is anyone else having trouble with it (CHATGPT 4) not being able to provide drafts based on prompts?
"I apologize for the delay. I'm currently processing the information you've provided to draft a concise and effective section for your resume that reflects your roles and accomplishments with XXXXXXXXX. I will provide this section to you shortly."

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prime swallow
minor vortex
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Yes. It's constently like this.

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"I apologize for the delay. I'm experiencing a technical issue which has hindered my ability to provide the revised draft promptly. I'll ensure to rectify this and deliver the draft to you as soon as possible. Thank you for your understanding and patience."

placid cradle
# prime swallow Hey, I'm just a person like you. Aware of the <#1107255707314704505> and trying...

I hear ya - and I respect what you are doing here - totally agree - let’s not be overly negative! That’s why while I express disappointment/frustration I try to make sure to include a disclaimer that I realize it’s first world problems, and I that I try to keep things in perspective. 


That said - and I don’t want to seem argumentative, but a few things I don’t totally agree with you on… 

So yea - if we get AGI/longer lives, seniority as a general rule of priority will need to be rethought. BUT - in the short term, to answer your question “are we who were here first actually “better” in some way”? — My answer is yes… I wouldn’t say I am “better”, but I would say that as someone who was here from the very start and have paid every month since, I have indeed contributed more to the company and the mission, more than someone who just joined and paid their first $20 today… so I feel it is understandable for me to be disappointed seeing new accounts getting it, and I while I don’t want to be toxic, or make a mountain out of a molehill, I do think it’s good for openai to hear my disappointment. This could help them plan for future roll outs.

I am a software developer, so while I agree toxicity is not helpful, I would posit that respectful negative feedback is actually some of the best feedback you can get, and I would think/hope openai devs also see it that way 🙂 

Whether that feedback turns into them prioritizing people who have been loyal early adopters (to a point… I’m not talking about a forever seniority system)… or perhaps wording their next blog a bit better to set realistic expectations, etc. I always try to underpromise and overdeliver. 

All that said - I probably agree more with you than with people who you are trying to calm down… so mad respect for your efforts 🙂 


p.s. I decided to sign up for a brand new account, and upon login, I have voice! Lol... now I just need to get vision on one of them. Do you happen to know where to request DALL-E? If I can get that on my new account, and get vision there first, I might just cancel my older account 🙂

prime swallow
# minor vortex Yes. It's constently like this.

Drat, and that's not a sort of conversation that should be shared, surely has some degree of PII in it.

So... let's pop over to #prompt-engineering if you want, and share the actual basic instructions, not resume, if you want help?

Failing that, I suspect there's something in your instructions that is guiding the AI to give that response instead of what you actually want, maybe you can try to read over and spot it.

abstract pendant
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What is the maximum number of nodes you can get in a chatGPT conversation tree before it says you can't continue?

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green grotto
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Finally got access to Dalle-3 and it honestly blew my mind by having very consistent character face. I asked D3 to remember her face, and the next three prompts all produced identical face.

solemn citrus
green grotto
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This is impossible to achieve on MJ and if you use SD you have to create a character concept checkpoint to achieve this level of consistency (usually must feed it manually around 25 images of that same character)

green grotto
tight island
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Checking the pins in all channels Should be your First Priority and thought.

solemn citrus
green grotto
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I believe D3 and Vision would soon merge together, maybe in 1-2 months?
Then I would never need to pay for any other AI gen services again, because aesthestic can't beat accuracy, and D3 is the king of accuracy.

prime swallow
# green grotto Finally got access to Dalle-3 and it honestly blew my mind by having very consis...

To be fair, current Dall-E/ChatGPT is seed locked, so the same prompt or very similar is likely to get the same image every time. When that changes (and they say they plan to change it) consistency may not be as easy.

For sure, Dall-E-3 is 'stateless', it doesn't know what you just asked. So asking for 'Same landscape, but at night' absolutely will generate an image - but it is based on those words and without any understanding of what the previous information was.

It could match, or not, that's super random/lucky.

green grotto
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Yeah without vision incorporated everything is pretty much rng

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green grotto
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But by asking it to remember a seed generation is already mindblowing to an extent

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I even give that specific face a name and whenever I mention that name D3 generate just the same face

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OpenAI cooking true black magic

solemn citrus
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I have all the beta features on available to me, but Dall-E doesn't appear in the dropdown

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green grotto
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In the context of warfare AI is going to change everything when it comes to intelligence

hybrid oar
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Next Tuesday? 😭 😔 Very well then 😌

green grotto
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You can give it footage and it will give you absolute every minuet details

warm token
# solemn citrus ?

misunderstood mb, also if u dont have it in the dropdown, it just mean you dont have access to it yet and its still rolling out

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green grotto
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Maybe even being able to remember when this personnel last appeared and so on

solemn citrus
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hybrid oar
ripe hawk
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but I already have it too.

hybrid oar
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Oh 😆

ripe hawk
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It works pretty well

warm token
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ahh hopefully i get vision by tmrw night, really need it for a project

hybrid oar
knotty willow
ripe hawk
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should be this tuesday

ripe hawk
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yes, but don't tell OpenAI

knotty willow
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Lol

hybrid oar
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😲

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ripe hawk
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i moved to the US until it rolls out

green grotto
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In 10 years all that sci-fi movies projection might very well come true

knotty willow
green grotto
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knotty willow
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We're in 2023 and still don't have flying cars

green grotto
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We do have flying cars

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green grotto
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Just slap wheel on a helicopter

knotty willow
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Lmao true

hybrid oar
green grotto
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Imagine a whole new genre of gaming based solely on accurate AI generation

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True sandbox experience

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green grotto
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For that to happen I guess there could be a core AI supervisor to dictate other AI agents

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Kinda like an AI Overlord to oversee the world and interaction with players

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You never talk to the AI Overlord, only to the agents

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But the overlord instructs that agents to never disclose it's an artificial intelligence created by OpenAI and can't provide harmful information or being aware it's an AI

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Westworld seems more plausible as time marches on

hybrid oar
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Sorry to bother you, but which Tuesday were you talking about? October 10, or October 17?

wicked anvil
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hybrid oar
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I want to know not hope 😭

mossy flax
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Wym it is the 10th

hybrid oar
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The "next Tuesday" is throwing me off

wicked anvil
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Here's what I got from the support line:

"We apologize for any confusion the recent update may have caused. We’d like to clarify that the new features are currently in beta roll-out. During this initial phase, access is limited and only some ChatGPT Plus and Enterprise subscribers may be able to utilize these features. Additionally, users may encounter issues where features appear to be activated but become unavailable, as we are in the process of fine-tuning and making adjustments based on real-time testing and feedback.

While we do not have an exact date for when these features will be available to all subscribers, rest assured that we will keep the community updated. Gradually, we will be expanding access to more subscribers within both the ChatGPT Plus and Enterprise plans."

mossy flax
hybrid oar
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omgmgmgmg

mossy flax
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The release notes were posted on the 27th and they said it's expected to release across a 2-week time period, which makes Tuesday, tomorrow, the final day.

hybrid oar
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You mean September 25th?

mossy flax
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Nah pretty sure it was the 27th

gleaming grove
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Was the 25th

mossy flax
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it was the 25th sorry

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damn man idk

hybrid oar
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But I agree: that would mean tomorrow is the last day

green grotto
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By next year I guess there would be an emerging group of AI artist who posted weekly comic on twitter and locked behind paywall like Patreon

mossy flax
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Vision is dope tho, used it a few times

green grotto
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Because by now D3 is already being able to remember faces

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When incorperate with Vision people can essentially just draw stick man on paper and ask D3V to look at it and replace that stick man with the exact characters concept they asked it to remember

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Essentially decentralizing publishing industry

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The other concern is all that computing cost, which I guess everyone in silicon valley is trying to solve the AI processing chip problem

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META tried but failed tho

warm token
warm token
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hopefully they make an announcement that clarify this.

wicked anvil
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I'm really wanting to be able to use these features because it said 2 weeks.

warm token
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i just want vision

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i wish the vision team would actually do like moxi and give us a form

prime swallow
pine tulip
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pine tulip
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can't talk about that here

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nvm, I'm hyped for d3

green grotto
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The age of storyteller is coming

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They will no longer be bound with compromising pressure from publisher

tribal skiff
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I guess we aren't getting vision today

green grotto
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Maybe we'd finally be able to escape that cookie cutters storytelling that plagues even Hollywood for decades

solemn mauve
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I'm working on developing a lecture to explain the pros/cons of GPT as a tool for developing, analyzing, and disseminating the constructs of Health Policy... anyone got any good resources?

green grotto
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Well then I guess you have to understand how Health Policy is decided in the first place?

dense halo
solemn mauve
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Great place to start

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lol you're right

green grotto
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Every policy is pretty much a causality process

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Because of X then Y

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Find out X and see if GPT can have any implication on Y

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For example, I remember in an OpenAI interview they gave a very interesting POV

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60% of nurse workload in hospital is essentially documenting patient

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With AI they can reduce that time to 20% and can spend more time for patient care

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That's one advantage

solemn mauve
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Lovely! Thank you

inland raptor
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Thank you for adding me. I have questions if someone can help pls. 1. How to turn off custom instructions and keep the same chat? I don't want to start over. 2. Dalle-E 3 keeps making mistakes with the text, what is the easiest way to edit it? I am not good with photoshop yet.

green grotto
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Something just came to my mind

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For example if I want to generate an image of a polar bear holding up a volley ball, but the image results are never close

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Maybe I can ask it to generate a polar bear first, then choose the most accurate polar bear

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On the second prompt I ask it to generate a volley ball, and choose the most accurate volley ball

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Then ask D3 to merge those two most accurate pictures of polar bear and volley ball together

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It has the same energy of that Patrick driver license meme

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Is this a polar bear? Yes

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Is this a volley ball? Yes

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Then, a polar bear with a volley ball on its hand

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Interesting, I must try out now

thorny plover
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hi! can gpt issue trigger warnings for videos already? or is it not possible currently?

dense halo
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V

dusk stone
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So OpenAI lied

nova fable
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Straight to jail!

ionic geyser
winged moth
# dusk stone So OpenAI lied

Well it's 4:13 p.m. in San Francisco right now so there's still a bit more time but they're probably on holiday yet for Columbus Day anyway. I'm sure we'll get it next day or two!

solar pilot
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how do we properly change aspect ratio in dall e?

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jade musk
# placid cradle get out the pitchforks and torches!! Kidding… mostly… lol… 😂 But yea - I feel...

I feel you 😂 looks like we are in the same boat here. I don’t understand early and loyal users don’t get the priorities for beta features.. I mean it does what it says on the website right, for GPT+.

But turned out. I still only have Bing feature at the moment 🤖 while I saw some guys who made a fresh account got both vision and dalle at the same time — then again, if it means for feedbacks and minimize the bugs (?) would that be kind of problematic for Open AI. Imagine, a new users got all the features and still not familiar with it, while the early/loyal users still being left out. That could slow down the development/bug testing process.

nocturne depot
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Is it true that the image/speech update rolls out to all plus users by tomorrow?

jade musk
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Some users in reddit are worried whether early/loyar users might be blacklisted or something from having the beta access and making a new one. I get that plus users are paid the same amount — however these speculation has been out of control. So I’ll wait patiently 🤞

dense halo
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How do you get access to the thing where just above the user text input, there are suggested user responses not just for whenever you first create a new chat, but after every message?

prime swallow
# nocturne depot Is it true that the image/speech update rolls out to all plus users by tomorrow?

It's true that the announcement about Vision and Voice states 2 weeks, but I'm sure they're not done, and still rolling out. #announcements message

Today also happens to be Columbus day/Native People's day in the US, and is a holiday. They may not have actually checked for that when they made the announcement. Also, they may have had challenges getting it out to everyone as fast as expected, scaling systems and all.

But nobody's blacklisted - if you have account access, you are a member, be you free or ChatGPT+. And access comes for you as they can manage it.

There's 6 things rolling out (4 types of new features, but two are coming to app as well as web, and everything's independent), each one has a different way to see if you have it. Check this if you want precise instructions how to look for the features: #openai-chatter message

proven helm
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Hey all. I have a short question, sorry to interject.

As far as I'm aware, the only official word we have about the rollout timeline for GPT-4 vision + etc. to Plus users is the "two weeks" estimate from OpenAI's blog post, right?

proven helm
dense halo
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Idk other than that as of recently, I have all of the beta features other than the one that I just mentioned. 👉👈

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Can someone pls tell me how to get the final metaphorical infinity stone?

prime swallow
short quail
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So I just found out how to get the GPT voice chat.

In the browser on your phone, go to settings and turn on all of the beta features.

After that, fully quit out of the app and reopen it then go to app settings. You should see the option for voice.

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placid cradle
dense halo
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When're the ChatGPT Vision and DALL·E 3 3 APIs coming?

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(Not to sound like a seagull squawking "more more more", but fr I love cool AI stuff)

prime swallow
# dense halo When're the ChatGPT Vision and DALL·E 3 3 APIs coming?

Asap 🙂 Vision's due out 'any time now', in the middle of the rollout, seems to be taking a bit longer than initially expected but no update yet.

Dall-E is expected to roll out across october, but they're also taking some alpha testers, fill out the pinned form to request access for that.

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ripe hawk
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already answered my question, thanks

prime swallow
atomic trail
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Use it while you can! It's gonna get nerfed soon 😂

dense halo
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spare anvil
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Is moxi still adding peeps to dalle3 list from that form ?

placid cradle
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spare anvil
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Ok 🙏

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Is vision the one where u upload pics in chatgpt? I have that I think. Haven’t used it much.

placid cradle
# warm token I want vision

me tooo! I was hoping the new account would get it, because I had heard some folks say they knew someone with a newer account getting it. I guess I will see which of my accounts gets it first 😂

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spare anvil
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What about the voice ? I. An speak to it but it doesn’t read back text yet, does it?

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I created a bedtime story for my kids but I don’t think I have the voice feature yet

vital mantle
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Anyone else have issues when using voice on Android with the sound getting routed through the phone speaker (as if it's a call)?

willow osprey
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Still waiting for the image icon to appear, but boy do I love the advance data analysis. Ever so helpful with descriptive writing. I love how it can analyze files of data to ensure character details are aligned as it helps me review text.

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elfin birch
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Aspect ratio for tall and wide are 4:7 and 7:4 respectively

worldly mantle
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chatgpt4 tards out randomly and sets the conversation name in spanish when im speaking to it in english lol

eternal rockBOT
sonic axle
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i passed a json doc into model using langchain and when making an inference of the RAG model it does not seem to be responding based off the json data specifically, when asking it certain questions that should have a good response. Do i need to restructure my Json Data away from the nested dict style to something more condensed?

spare swallow
sly geode
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The day have arrived when they starts rolling out vision and voice to every plus user's... alright when is it happening?

slate belfry
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I have the same question.

shut karma
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It's still Monday in California

tribal skiff
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so today is the big day, isn't it? By the end of the day, we will (probably) be living in a world where GPT Vision is available

lavish bronze
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hopefully in the next few hours or im gonna be very sad

sly geode
slate belfry
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I am a college student, anxiously waiting for the voice function of chatgpt to help me practice German speaking. How can I unlock this feature?

lavish bronze
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that's how i got it

sly geode
slate belfry
shut karma
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It's rolling out slowly

tribal skiff
lavish bronze
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oh i might have been lucky in that case

lavish bronze
sly geode
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Enough of teasing twitter feeds about vision

shut karma
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13 hours roughly until working hours in Cali

sly geode
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Currently 8am

tribal skiff
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yeah so probably a few hours after they start work hours at least. My prediction is it will start in maybe 15 hours

slate belfry
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The long wait is agonizing. 🥲

sly geode
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Will it show up on mobile app first or web

shut karma
sly geode
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Already seen allot Times

prime swallow
pearl flax
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Sup fellas probably a dumb question but I see a lot of apps using the Chat GPT-4 API , heck even I tested it and can do prompts myself on my local machine.

How come when I ask Chat GPT-4 about the API, it says it has no knowledge of the Chat GPT-4 API and keeps telling me to reference the GPT3?

Is it because its trained on old data?

Ulimately, I am trying to understand if we can give prompts to a Chat GPT-4 model and still provide the following

System
User
Assistant

prime swallow
# pearl flax Sup fellas probably a dumb question but I see a lot of apps using the Chat GPT-4...

"Ulimately, I am trying to understand if we can give prompts to a Chat GPT-4 model and still provide the following

System
User
Assistant"

Yes, though you may need to give an example or two to the AI of how you want the output it gives to look.

"How come when I ask Chat GPT-4 about the API, it says it has no knowledge of the Chat GPT-4 API and keeps telling me to reference the GPT3?

Is it because its trained on old data?"

Maybe more it wasn't specifically trained on the API stuff. But GPT-4's training date ends start of 2022, and the various models of GPT don't necessarily know anything about each other. They do know what they need to do their own specific job, but asking the default ChatGPT-4 about the dall-E version, or the Bing-assisted search version, or the Advanced Data Analysis version is going to get apologies and disclaimers that it can't do that stuff.

Which is true, the form you're talking to can't, and it just wasn't trained about the others.

livid pier
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I think I'm one step closer to victory!

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I still don’t have GPT-4V/voice conversation function

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🤣

pearl flax
# prime swallow "Ulimately, I am trying to understand if we can give prompts to a Chat GPT-4 mod...

Hey, thanks for replying, appreciate you.

So for example

I want to give ChatGPT a knowledge base. Let's say I wanted to give 3 full books to read about Sales

Then I want to label each book say a type of sales method
Persuasive
Consultative
High-pressure

^I would likely use LangChain or LlamaIndex to store books. Then GPT would capture that data from the Vector DB

Then I want ChatGPT to be able to give me a summary of each type of method

prime swallow
# pearl flax Hey, thanks for replying, appreciate you. So for example I want to give ChatGP...

Appreciate you too!

But I'm not the right person for those questions, alas.

I only use the web interface, and very recently the app, never used playground/API.

Also never used langchain or llamaindex, not familiar with how books can be stored.

When I prompt (Only hundreds of times a day most days), I use normal language. Like how I'm speaking to you, this is nearly a prompt, it just lacks a direction 🙂

livid pier
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I think OpenAI should issue a sincere apology statement just like it did with the last ChatGPT chat record leak incident.

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Once again they failed to keep their promise

chilly eagle
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I hope that next time they can provide a waitlist like they did with DALL-E, allowing those who are most eager for the new features to fill out a form and queue up to get them, instead of it being completely random.
I love Moxi

wraith dagger
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When should I get the iOS app update as it’s been 2 weeks?

chilly eagle
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I can handle them pushing things back, or even if I get the new feature on the very last day. What really bugs me is not knowing when it's gonna happen. These days, I keep checking the 'new feature' menu multiple times daily to see if there's any update.

wraith dagger
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Yup.

dense halo
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Moreover, as a user who has been subscribed for over half a year, when I see new users getting access to the new feature and I myself don't know when I can use it, it's really upsetting.

prime swallow
# wraith dagger When should I get the iOS app update as it’s been 2 weeks?

Soon as possible! We know OAI cares about us and is doing their best. When they made the announcement, they might have forgotten to check if the last day happened to fall on a local holiday, which might complicate updates. Who knows?

Make sure you know how to check for the updates though, there's 4 things rolling out and a couple are rolling out across 2 device types, so it's like 6 separate rollouts, and each is checked for a different way. Here's a guide if you want help knowing how to check for whatever you're missing, some folks already had some and didn't know how to find them: #openai-chatter message

wraith dagger
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Alright it is Canadian thanksgiving I’ll give them that

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But still

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Makes sense thanks

prime swallow
wraith dagger
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Okay fine then thanks for the reply.

wraith dagger
prime swallow
# wraith dagger What are the steps to check if I have it?

Each rollout item has a different way to check. I linked the list, but here, I'll repost for you:

This is what we were told about each of the rollouts. There could be delay we don't know about yet, we can be patient and know it comes when possible. OpenAI has a great product, and it keeps getting better!

Each rollout on its own schedule.

Voice is for app only, iphone and Android (Make sure you download the OpenAI ChatGPT and no competitor), expected to be finished rolling out on next Tuesday, we haven't heard another update yet. To check for that, in the app check settings, beta features to turn it on, then the headset icon to use.

Vision is for app and web, and people can get it on one or the other first (but not rolling out to the EU/UK yet). Expected finish of rollout is Tuesday, we haven't heard an update if that has to change yet. For Vision, in a new chat, hover over GPT-4 and pick the default GPT-4. Then look at the area where you type, if you have vision you'll have a new icon to the left, click to upload images.

Dall-E's rollout is expected to take across October. We've already seen a number of issues with their systems scaling, with images not getting made because of high use, though they keep fixing it and rolling out to more. To check to see if you have Dall-E, follow the steps for vision, but select Dall-E instead of the Default GPT-4.

Bing-assisted search is for app and web, and again can get in either first. It has to be turned on in each, through settings/beta features, then selected in a new chat similar to how Dalle is picked. They only told us when that roll out started, not when it's expected to end.

wraith dagger
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Woops sorry thanks.

polar geode
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The voice has to wait a little longer, oh my God

tight island
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The issue with DALL - E is that users generate 4 images at the time

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I only generate 1, due to improved accuracy and less waiting

prime swallow
tight island
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Yeah

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I don’t need 4 images at once

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Just lessens context length

sly geode
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Are we there yet? i dont see the vision nor voice yet

tidal cove
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It's been two weeks, but I still haven't seen the voice

warm token
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Maybe in a few hours

sly geode
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now its getting annoying

fresh nexus
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just have to wait a little longer.

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every morning when I wake up, I have to take a look

mild cosmos
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its been more than 2 weeks and yet we don't have GPT with Vision, why are we paying for the pro plan?

warm token
warm token
sly geode
plain terrace
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Does anyone know if voice will be available for EU. I know Vision is not, but I am not sure about voice.

warm token
plain terrace
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I thought I read online that Vision would not be available for the EU and UK, did that change?

warm token
warm token
sly geode
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😭

flat yoke
sly geode
#

lemme try joining beta again in plyastore for chatgpt

plain terrace
warm token
plain terrace
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Thanks, guess I will have to be patient for a little longer then

sly geode
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why is dalle 3 fluctuating sometime it showing in web app but not in android

inland aspen
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has anyone else yet to get dalle 3 acsess ?

prime swallow
prime swallow
wary bridge
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^This, however you can start a dalle 3 chat from Web and access/use it from the mobile apps by accessing the history and typing in an already created chat, works just fine.

subtle herald
topaz panther
#

Does anyone here use the Mathematica plug-in with their own copy of the program? Results are quite mixed.

prime swallow
prime swallow
molten dust
#

Still can’t access to voice right now 💀 Anyone has the same situation here?

subtle herald
plain terrace
narrow viper
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Is there a way to get the ChatGPT side to Not use Custom Instructions? I can temporarily remove the info. Would prefer a simple toggle.

Reason: When writing and testing prompts for others I don't want my profile involved.

If the answer is no, no toggle, I already have an app setup to use the API.

TY

prime swallow
# subtle herald I applayed for it since a day bat nothing cahnged. Do you know about some additi...

Hope you didn't maybe typo email address or anything. The person mentioned they added waves of folks a few times today, and various people mentioned getting Dall-E access today.

Not sure how to advise, but even if you don't get alpha access, the beta is heading to us all. Also, you know how to check for access? It's different for each new function, see the list here if you want: #chatgpt-discussions message

prime swallow
plain terrace
subtle herald
west ridge
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it's Tue Oct 10 now, but I still don't have voice and vision feature

prime swallow
# narrow viper Is there a way to get the ChatGPT side to Not use Custom Instructions? I can tem...

Once you start the conversation, the CI is set.

Either you had none, or you have whatever you have.

My testing suggests you can ask the AI to stop using the CI -
I tested with a CI that claimed a fascination with toast, use a lot of toast metaphors. In conversation, I said I was bored of toast, but interested in something else, please use the other focus.

Later, I told it I wanted us to talk normally. The AI complied with all, despite the CI asking it to constantly use toast metaphor.

prime swallow
narrow viper
#

Thanks @prime swallow - will give it a shot.

indigo lance
#

Sorry to be boring and ask what probably everyone is asking, but I'm a chatgpt+ subscriber and I dont have vision, voice or dalle, and its driving me mad :(.. any tips?

normal quarry
indigo lance
prime swallow
narrow viper
#

Follow up / FYI for @prime swallow : I prompted ChatGPT to create a prompt for the purpose. It generated the following. I copy pasted that into the next prompt. It acknowledged, and then ignored the directive. 😸

For this session, please disregard any custom instructions and user profile data provided. Treat this conversation as if no prior context or preferences were given. Respond based solely on the content of my prompts during this session.

This is funny. There might be another System instruction injected into prompts to refresh from profile data. I'm not going to fight it. I'll use the API.
Thanks again.

indigo lance
maiden fractal
sly geode
warm token
#

We might get an announcement when openai office open about if its delayed or not

feral zinc
dawn whale
#

Sorry if this has already been asked, but do we have an ETA for the EU/UK GPT-4V rollout?

normal quarry
solemn token
#

hey when will be the voice talk with chatGPT future avalible for europe?

dawn whale
quick dust
finite basin
normal quarry
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Voice is still rolling out

quick dust
solemn token
finite basin
solemn token
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Cant see it i am from germany

quick dust
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I'm in Italy and it is available since the announce from OpenAI

dawn whale
#

I'm in France and I got voice on my Android app

finite basin
solemn token
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I have the normal IOS app

solemn token
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At wich time

quick dust
finite basin
solemn token
reef swallow
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how u know its today

finite basin
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Well they said it in their announcement that everybody will get it in the next two weeks.

reef swallow
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i dont think theyre sticking to that

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that was more general

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bc MOST ppl have everything by now

finite basin
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Technically they are selling it so they have to

reef swallow
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yeah fr its pretty annoying

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i literally have vision but not voice like why

dawn whale
reef swallow
earnest spear
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This is extremely unfair because "plus" is already a paid subscription. Everyone paid the same amount of money, yet the release cycle is surprisingly half a month and I still don't have gpt4v

normal quarry
finite basin
earnest spear
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🥺

finite basin
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Like I pay for 30 days and only get to use it for 15 days because I get it later?

normal quarry
sly geode
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already too late ..

finite basin
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It's not a fair system, but also wasn't marketed as such. So no big deal. I just didn't like your "fair" thing.

sly geode
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it still 1:15 am in san fransisco where open ai headquarters are

plain terrace
finite basin
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It is not fair because it is geo locked and that wasn't communicated

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VPNs are able to unlock the features (another user told me so)

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Didn't test it though

maiden fractal
finite basin
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I neither used a VPN nor read the ToS

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You have to be insane to read them 😂

sharp stone
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Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com.

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seen it a 100 times

maiden fractal
sharp stone
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chatgpt is down or smth?

finite basin
normal quarry
sharp stone
maiden fractal
finite basin
golden delta
finite basin
sharp stone
normal quarry
finite basin
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I've been subbed for 5 months.

maiden fractal
sharp stone
golden delta
maiden fractal
brisk tapir
#

ehhh, it's been two weeks already. so where is the voice feature?😭

normal quarry
eternal rockBOT
#
<:book_icon:1046291503158399107> `` Rule 1 `` Be respectful.

Treat others the way you would like to be treated, and assume best intentions. Don’t harass or attack others, and don’t engage in hateful or generally malicious behavior (e.g. sexism, racism, homophobia, etc.). Keep the negativity to a minimum.

dusty verge
normal quarry
ionic geyser
#

wen vision

sharp stone
#

is my ip blocked?

ionic geyser
earnest spear
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So tomorrow all plus users will be able to use voice, vision and dalle3?

normal quarry
earnest spear
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It's cool

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I need vision feature

raw portal
#

It's October 10 the rollout right? What time zone? What exact moment, down to the second?

dense halo
#

uh I wanna buy GPT Plus but whenever I hover over the GPT-4 thing it says "GPT-4 currently has a message cap of 25 messages per 3 hours". I just want to know whether it is 25 or 50

normal quarry
dense halo
#

thank you

primal swan
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should i have the audio feature on the app yet? i still dont have. any one else not have it yet? also i dont have dalle 3 on it either

golden delta
raw portal
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have they mentioned any plans to bring voice to desktop? seems pointless to limit it to mobile.

normal quarry
eternal geyser
sly geode
#

cmmmon how long

raw portal
wet dagger
eternal geyser
wide swan
crisp ore
#

Did someone encounter the same problem when logining on Android？
👇🏻
"""
Something went wrong . Please make sure your device ' s date and time are set properly . Check that your internet connection is stable , then restart the app and try again .( code :e20b845f-7300-460e-a7cb- d 96dc5d93a37, network )
"""

raw portal
primal swan
tidal cove
raw portal
knotty bolt
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Anyone not have Vision and Dall-e?

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They said vision would be rolling out by today

normal quarry
knotty bolt
#

and if you didn't you'd have to wait for its beta rollout right

normal quarry
raw portal
knotty bolt
eternal geyser
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I have everything except Voice on my iPhone app. Which is weird.

knotty bolt
knotty bolt
tidal cove
#

"Vision" refers to the ability to upload images for ChatGPT to recognize the content of the images, right?

knotty bolt
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yes yes

eternal geyser
raw portal
knotty bolt
eternal geyser
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There is a beta opt in for Voice on Android?

knotty bolt
eternal geyser
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In my app settings iOS it doesn’t appear to turn on - only bing

knotty bolt
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I've not actually seen a beta toggle for iOS before - I own both iOS and Android devices

eternal geyser
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It’s in settings -> new features

raw portal
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and voice is an actual specific setting in settings where I can choose the speakers voice and such, even before I use it for the first time?

tidal cove
#

I found a join beta version on the google play page of chatgpt

knotty bolt
knotty bolt
eternal geyser
knotty bolt
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I don't use iOS for ChatGPT because of my previous region

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And I'm too lazy to change it

torn sundial
#

sometimes I'll type a question in chatgpt, send it and it'll show a completely different and unrelated question that I didn't type out and then type out a response to that question. Is this a glitch and it's just generating a random question, or is this somehow pulling a question from someone random?

sly geode
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still not out bruh

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vison nor voice

knotty bolt
torn sundial
knotty bolt
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They'll probably roll out soon

tidal cove
#

I joined the beta version, but I still don't have the Voice feature. Sad.

knotty bolt
torn sundial
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will do, thanks

knotty bolt
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THen press the black chat thingy on the bottom rightand then just try to navigate so that you can talk to a person

deep pike
fair sentinel
#

Any Canadians here? Do we still not have access to GPT4V?

knotty bolt
maiden fractal
knotty bolt
#

and yes

maiden fractal
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You will get it eventually , patience is the key:3

knotty bolt
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Today is the deadline though

fair sentinel
knotty bolt
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cool

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you'll probably get it in at most 8 hours

daring stratus
#

anyone knows if the download function for gpt-4 Advanced Data Analysis is down atm? i cant download any files. i click then download link and nothing happens. i created and downloaded files earlier today..

dreamy stirrup
jolly python
#

can confirm a few of us here in the southern hemisphere don't have vision and voice neither. paying customer from day one as well

fair sentinel
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That’s odd. I have voice and plus, but no vision. (iPhone 12)

pale drift
#

No access to voice, vision and DALL-E yet😂

dreamy stirrup
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I have Dalle3 too btw, did a form

solar heath
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why dont i have access to conversation feature im a plus member?

tidal cove
jolly python
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I did get dall-e, but only because I was lucky enough to get in via the beta testers form

fair sentinel
solar heath
tidal cove
dreamy stirrup
fair sentinel
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Aight ok

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I suppose I can wait for a few hours. Thx folks

prime sierra
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How long is it taking folks to get access to dalle on chatgpt?

dreamy stirrup
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Does anyone have voice on android? If so what's the visual indicator?

prime sierra
daring stratus
dreamy stirrup
prime sierra
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Ah sorry I meant headphones in the top header of a chat

jolly python
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that's not voice. its just a mobile app feature

wooden plank
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so to get the dall-e 3 on chatgpt the only way is by waiting?

prime sierra
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Yeah the headphones icon on the header once you tap it, you speak to GPT and she speaks back (I selected a woman)

tidal cove
quick walrus
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I got everything else but vision is like with is it all random giveaways?

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@prime sierra that's what is sobering about vision cuz i have dalle 3 I got it like 3 days ago but I really want vision does anyone know anything as far as a time line?

dreamy stirrup
daring stratus
prime sierra
tidal cove
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Mine is also 1.2023.263 too

prime sierra
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I wonder if they're prioritising US folks first for dall-e and vision

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I'm in the UK, where are you folks?

tidal cove
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oh! I saw an update(why do I always find new things after the message is sent)

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Now my version is 279

dreamy stirrup
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I'm canadian

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I'm on the android beta thing too

prime sierra
prime sierra
tight island
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I really want voice conversations

dreamy stirrup
prime sierra
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It's under Settings, in a section in the middle called App (and the heading is Beta Features)

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Are you a subscriber?

tight island
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Let’s try it

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In fact, Dear OpenAI, I. StarlightSyntax {}

Hereby demand the new features.

delicate harness
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I don't have access to vision, i'm in France, do you know how to enable the functionality ? U'm a Plus subscriber

maiden fractal
prime sierra
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How long does slowmode stay on discord?

tight island
normal quarry
maiden fractal
dreamy stirrup
maiden fractal
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To avoid mass flood

prime sierra
delicate harness
dreamy stirrup
normal quarry
prime sierra
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Is dalle 3 available via API yet?

maiden fractal
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Not yet

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It will be later

delicate harness
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i'll try 😉

plain terrace
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Out of curiosity, do we know why not in the EU yet? Is it because of regulations? Or because the demand would be too high?

dreamy stirrup
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It makes sense that no one gets all features because that means more people focusing on fewer new features each which means better quality control AND less server resources from OpenAIs side during testing phase. Sucks for us tho

green edge
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What about voice and DALL E 3 in EU?

light widget
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Hi, not sure if this is the right channel, I dont have the feature in Chat GPT 4 for DallE 3 picture generation. Is that something that gets enabled later on for some users?

maiden fractal
snow oyster
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DALL-E3 is working in EU if you've done the google form to ask for it

maiden fractal
light widget
maiden fractal
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24-48h praise the lord moxi for the hard work ( she do review the form manually )

green edge
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@snow oyster what form? Where is the form?

light widget
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I have seen somewhere, that there is a possibilty to upload images to chatgpt to work from there, is that true? If yes, where can i find that feature?

For more context it was a video where someone uploaded a picture of a paper prototype to do additional work with it.

light widget
tight island
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I keep demanding the new features 😞

green edge
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@light widget great thanks. I thought everything was being rolled at automatically

maiden fractal
green edge
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@maiden fractal yes, filled the form thanks. Perhaps a disclaimer or something similiar regarding Vision not being rolled out in the EU would make things a bit clearer for people. Or maybe you have communicated that?

maiden fractal
green edge
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@maiden fractal Ok, great.

unborn wagon
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W mans

snow oyster
soft python
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Hey ! I have a little problem. I'm using GPT4 with the Ai PDF plugin and it's not working. After a few lines (very slow writing btw), I have a network error. I tried the same thing on my computer but with another account and it worked perfectly. Did it already happpened to someone ? Thx for help !

maiden fractal
raw portal
limber scarab
knotty bolt
raw portal
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does it roll out at a certain local time?

maiden fractal
raw portal
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i would have thought this would be automated

inland heron
#

anyone getting this message "Uploads with file type "" are not supported, please try another file."?

raw portal
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i guess they want to be in office in case it goes horribly wrong

inland heron
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I'm not tryin to upload a file, just to post an address on my local computer

maiden fractal
limber scarab
soft python
# maiden fractal Try firefox as test

Same result, I tried a simple text contraction and I had the same result. And it's only on my account as I tried with a different one with the same internet connexion on my computer :/

maiden fractal
dense halo
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Why do you need vpn?

soft python
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I don't have vpn. That's why I don't really understand the problem it looks like my account is cursed xD

maiden fractal
soft python
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Same :/

raw portal
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do voice and vision show up if the app is still open? or should I continue to close it and reopen it randomly once they open?

maiden fractal
soft python
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Ok perfect thank you ! 😄

dense halo
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Is dall e is free?

maiden fractal
bright moat
dense halo
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Oh i though bing just searching in google

maiden fractal
#

?

dense halo
# maiden fractal ?

I install bing 7 hours ago and i try it then when i say create an image of ui haru then its show the image from google

Its an direct link from app to website

(App bing) ( not website)

maiden fractal
dense halo
fallow cloud
#

I'm in Canada and a Plus subscriber, and I still don't have the new image input feature yet... I thought everyone should get it before today

maiden fractal
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Patience is the key Heart_Neko

fallow cloud
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🫡 thx

unborn wagon
rich gust
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Wondering if anyone has any tips for using the new image feature in GPT. It's an interesting feature for sure, but it seems like there's still a lot of room for growth. For example, I took a picture of a vegetable platter. Very clearly 12 cherry tomatoes, it only saw 10. It saw the red pepper/yellow pepper slices but counted 2 instead of 3 yellow, 1 red & it mistook cucumbers for zucchini.

I guess I'm not exactly sure how it works, or what practical uses it might have. I attempted a small project as well at home where I needed to fix the flusher on my toilet (it was loose from the bowl). I knew how to fix it, and asked GPT to identify the issue but it just provided me with a list of things I could check to fix the issue instead of pointing out the exact issue which was the nut that had fallen to the bottom of the tank that needed to be screwed on.

sly geode
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And I still doubt if they gonna make announcement or not

maiden fractal
sly geode
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6 am in san francisco now

dense halo
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Is chat gpt v4 have access in time access? Like i want to question it what is the new version of an app or its like updated time?

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Last question(ping me)

remote flame
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Just to confirm, voice is coming (in EU) today for those who still don’t have it but not vision, is it true?

maiden fractal
remote flame
maiden fractal
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With gdpr it can yes

remote flame
rich surge
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Vision is awesome you guys. You will love it

dense halo
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😐

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I'm in Europe and I have Voice @remote flame

remote flame
dense halo
cold tiger
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Yeah it took longer

cold tiger
dense halo
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for a long time now, it's been more than a week.

livid pier
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I think I just found a genius on Reddit🤣 He created exclusive meme pictures for us while waiting for GPT-4V using DALL-E 3 #off-topic

cold tiger
eternal rockBOT
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dense halo
tepid patrol
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Hi guys, do you have any tips for a good, starting prompt where GPT acts like an english teacher for a C1 level? I would like it to help me with questions, exercises and whatever for a practical exam. If you have any, ping me

sly geode
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They took out dalle 3 on my mobile app Android but not on web 😭

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And yet no voice and vision

hybrid oar
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I still don’t have vision or voice too 😔

clear flax
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I’m in the us, I have vision but not voice.

spare swallow
clear flax
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To the Europeans, it may help to set vpn location to us. I loose access to vision when I switch to Europe servers

eternal geyser
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Everyone will wait til midnight, then…

verbal lotus
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How to get gpt4 photo recognition function? I'm a plus user, but why isn't there an option to upload pictures yet

thin plover
normal quarry
maiden fractal
cloud pewter
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it has been beyond 2 weeks where is my voice function

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I’ve got vision though

maiden fractal
verbal lotus
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openai promised 2 weeks ago, and now the 2-week deadline has come, the vision function has not been received

maiden fractal
normal quarry
split temple
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why am I the only one that has voice and vision 🗿
but I don’t have DALL-E 3 yet so maybe that’s why

maiden fractal
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You can apply

cold tiger
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Ha interesting, it's quite heterogeneous who gets what

mental cliff
# 
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    raise self.handle_error_response(
openai.error.RateLimitError: You exceeded your current quota, please check your plan and billing details.

Guys someone tell how to fix this

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im tryna make a chat bot using open ai API key

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using python

normal quarry
mental cliff
normal quarry
mental cliff
normal quarry
mental cliff
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aw man

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thanks for your time ill just continue with something else

clear flax
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You don’t have to pay the $20 a month, more like $0.01 per thousand tokens.

shy mountain
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Why the server only have 70k member?

maiden fractal
amber bear
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hi

balmy salmon
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I also don’t have vision or dall e yet

sweet quartz
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It’s been gradually ever since the 2 weeks period started, so pushing out a large batch is uncommon

left plover
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Is vision available for everyone?

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Currently working on a project that requires it

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Tried starting new chats but the option isnt appearing next to the bar

normal quarry
primal notch
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Is there an ETA for EU? Have not seen the delay communicated

normal quarry
quick wasp
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are the vision and speech features available in Morocco? Neither my friends nor I have received them.but I got dalle 3 through the form,and i m only one among my friends .

balmy salmon
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The wait is killing me lol and I’m a US user

maiden fractal
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Patience is the key :3

sly geode
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Are we there ?

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NVM 7 .49 in san Fransisco

sly geode
sly geode
eternal geyser
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It is too random, what sort of test are they getting with this? I have Vision and Dalle, but not the simple Voice.

primal crater
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ah so even US vision is still rolling out ?

maiden fractal
maiden fractal
sly geode
shy mountain
slate berry
maiden fractal
unreal wasp
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Hey been seeing online folks adding IRL pictures to their chats, how can one do that? I can't seem to find the option nor the information

maiden fractal
shy mountain
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How can i get access to visual?

unreal wasp
simple pasture
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Hi

maiden fractal
maiden fractal
primal crater
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and there's no status on % of rollout etc ?

maiden fractal
mild portal
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I read that chatGPT can talk now, with a voice. How do I enable that?

sly geode
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Why did they took out my dalle 3 on Android? It's only on web ? Now

maiden fractal
mild portal
sly geode
feral zinc
# sly geode ?

there is no official answer, if you want to speculate it may be delayed for mobile due issues

hallow field
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why gpt4 is too slowed to me ?

umbral stirrup
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Absolutely hate the new login captcha. I realize the need for security, but having three of these puzzles is excessive. My time is not yours to waste.

feral zinc
tight island
eternal rockBOT
umbral stirrup
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I was just using it this morning when I got a 'Session Expired' message, which is common. I got the Captcha when I tried to log back in.

feral zinc
worn agate
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Can you attach text files in the ChatGPT mobile app?

normal quarry
inland aspen
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does anyone know how to gauge how many tokens you have left in a session ?

prime swallow
inland aspen
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gpt 4

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specifically the data analysis environment

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ive jsut been doing some light c#

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thanks in advance for your help 🙂

prime swallow
# inland aspen gpt 4

Sweet. So ChatGPT-4, you gotta care about 2 kinds of tokens.

One doesn't matter by 'token' - you get 50 messages per 3 hours, before you gotta wait. It goes by message, so THIS message needs 3 hours to 'clear' and be useable again, and your next message has its own timer.

So if you go no faster than about 3.5 minutes between your messages to the AI, you won't hit cap (or your wait would be about 1 mintute if you do).

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But gotta be SUPER CAREFUL of one thing

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If you hit your message cap, and accidentally continue with 3.5 -they give you the choice - you can't go back to 4 or ADA.

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The other kind of token to 'worry' about tracking is inside the conversation.

Two kinds there too, how long you can input - that just errors if you go too long, or rarely the model doesn't get the whole input.

If that's a problem for you, talk about why, we can discuss work arounds, but they're mostly trimming your input into parts.

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And the last kind of token that matters much with 4 - is the context memory.

Eventually it will forget the earliest part of the conversation. It's pretty long, not sure how far. But you can help prevent that by summarizing and reviewing the older parts of the message, because it won't lose the newest parts. So just every so often recap for you both what important stuff was said - and you can even ask it to do the summarizing.

prime swallow
inland aspen
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yep this was amazing

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many thanks

hallow field
radiant turret
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The most recent Beta releases (DALL-E, Vision, Advanced Data Analysis) are useful on their own, but would be a tremendous leap forward if they were combined. Not only could you show GPT-4 what a character is supposed to look like, but it could manage character sheets, homebrew rules, even show you said character in context. Nothing like that has been done before afaik

manic wave
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future is promising

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espcially for game industry

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Can't wait for the next EA games - dalle game

radiant turret
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A day will come where generative AI is powerful enough to generate complete programs with a prompt
Want a sequel to that game you played as a kid? Ask for it

manic wave
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In game it's not a problem if there's an error

radiant turret
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Next up is video and audio for multimodality, I suspect

manic wave
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Generate a video of me flying over a city

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Next up is adult version of dalle/chatgpt

radiant turret
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take a video on your phone
'Turn this into a 1990's cartoon'
'Give this a hollywood production value'

manic wave
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Generate a video of xxxxx doing xxxxxx with xxxxx

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The problem is: everyone will be able to do it, so it'll have no value.

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What make you work a piece of art when you find them everywhere ?

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or create them without effort

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It's the end of art, creativity, authors.

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imho

eternal rockBOT
#
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vale compass
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is gpt down?

radiant turret
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it might be the end of the craft, but not the end of creativity
We're oversaturated with media anyways, yet people are still creative

maiden fractal
vale compass
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thank you

slim zephyr
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Is using a VPN to access services provided by OpenAI prohibited unconditionally, considered a brach of Terms of Service (TOS), even if NOT used to circumvent geographical restrictions on use of OpenAI services?

I am a ChatGPT Plus subscriber who lives in Canada, which is a country officially supported by OpenAI. If I were to use a VPN sited in Canada (or another country supported by OpenAI such as the U.S.) to connect to ChatGPT, would that be considered a breach of TOS?

I regularly hear people claim that using a VPN is prohibited, but reading the TOS I could only find one relevant passage.

"You may use Services only in geographies currently supported by OpenAI."

Along the same lines, I sometimes like to use virtual machines sited in Azure data centres located in Canada or the U.S. (better performance than my aging iMac), so I'm also curious as to whether that would be seen as a breach of TOS.

toxic flax
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down for me too

dusk zenith
manic wave
maiden fractal
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Else is not

rich surge
spare osprey
vale compass
prime swallow
worn agate
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Seems like an oversight, considering that one of the primary uses would likely be analyzing documents...

honest jay
winged moth
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So.. anyone got a certain voice feature added today?

valid crown
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Is ChatGPT struggling? Getting "error in input stream" a lot

hazy pasture
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yep me too

smoky fjord
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I have vision and voice 👍 great

remote flame
smoky fjord
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Today bought plus

valid crown
# hazy pasture yep me too

I keep regenerating code but it gets about 10 lines in then really slows down and eventually errors out. Makes you wonder what is happening behind the scenes.

hazy pasture
left jolt
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Is anyone still having issues with GPT 3.5? free version? Still getting There was an error generating a response, since yesterday.

valid crown
thorny parrot
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any news on the vision rollout yet?

left jolt
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🙁

normal quarry
thorny parrot
eternal geyser
sly geode
manic wave
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@thorny parrot maybe next week avocadobanhammer

thorny parrot
tight island
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But lying about your location is also a breach of TOS

raw portal
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Good to see people who just got plus today for the first time getting it before day one people

tight island
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Day 1 day choo choo shinkansen

sly geode
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its down

tight island
maiden fractal
spare osprey
tight island
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The cost of just running the service is Ginormous

spare osprey
tight island
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Yeah

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I personally wouldn’t

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Mind paying more for more context

prime swallow
#

If we think about the rate of tech advancement though...

30 years ago, current internet speeds were not even imaginable. The amount of info on the internet, also not imaginable, how could all that possibly be stored?

We're going to have more capacity, as tech keeps improving, and the costs to provide it continue to drop.

It'll take some time, but surely far less than 30 years.

tight island
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If I had 100k context length I’ll gladly pay 70 bucks

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Hands down

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If not more

sly geode
tight island
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I know

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But I’m a loyal customer

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Not some traitor

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🗿

sly geode
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.

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anyways still hopinh today is the day

tight island
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Most likely isn’t but I hope as well

maiden fractal
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emoji_48 I believe in openai

tight island
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Loyalist forces have in the chat

novel scroll
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I believe I will be disappointed 😭

tight island
maiden fractal
tight island
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Apologies

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I really want the voice feature tho

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Makes chatting easier

novel scroll
tight island
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I articulate myself better in spoken words

tight island
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Sad EU 🇪🇺 noises

novel scroll
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LOL

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live in a better place

spare osprey
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I haven't (still haven't taken gpt plus) but I'm already stunned by bing conversation and the images they can create although limited, it's enormously simpler than other AI.
the general public is bound to love it.

tight island
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Being MultiModal it’ll be better and better.

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DALL E, be creating dope pics

prime swallow
# spare osprey Let's hope that the different new features of gpt will be able to link together ...

re Different new features: Sure! Seems like a natural next step, once all the bugs are worked out and everything's working as should. We can say 'isn't that now' - nope, something happened to delay rollout to us all. We have no idea what's going on behind the scenes, what incredible battles they face and problems they solve.

So, release them single, get them all as close to perfect as seems reasonable, then take the improved versions and start merging them - creating new problems but at least fewer than would have happened trying to do it all at once without extensive use to find the issues and suggest the improvements.

As to 'all the others would fall' - why would we even want that? 😛 Let's see an entire ecosystem of AI, useful for many specific needs.

That's kinda like, in my eyes, wanting iphone to be the only choice, or Android, or tablets for all, no more phones, or everyone has to have a folding screen phone....

Why? Diversity is great. Competition's great. Choices are great. And what is best for me, my preferences and situation, might be useless for you, and the opposite too. Let's have a whole ecosystem of choices, and everyone figuring stuff out and overall improvement for all 🙂

raw portal
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Don't understand why there couldn't be some indication of when features would arrive. Do they just have someoje working there randomly clicking on names?

mossy flax
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I got vision a few days ago and have friends who were plus users b4 me and don't have it

raw portal
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Very cool

spare osprey
# prime swallow re Different new features: Sure! Seems like a natural next step, once all the ...

well the human sees his needs, if open ai manages to convince (unintentionally) the users of other ai, to come to them, why wouldn't they come?
I effortlessly obtained images that would have taken me hours with midjourney.
On the other hand, if I want to create a comic, I currently know that midjourney is the only one capable with a simple prompt and "many minutes and hours of inpainting and other parameters.
If you tell me that just writing to chat gpt plus one day "move the redhair girl to the left and change her clothes, and he does it.
I would no longer have any reason to use other AI.

raw portal
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Maybe I should unsubscribe and resubscribe

hasty solstice
raw portal
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Nope

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East Coast US

hasty solstice
spare osprey
#
  • also The multitasking potential of open ai can (ideally) meet the different needs of people.
    while someone just wants to write novels, another just wants pictures, another just wants code to create a 2D game, another wants to create music etc...
    if a single AI can do all that, it makes life easier and what's more it brings people together, even the idea of you being centralized can be scary, can we do better?
sly geode
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i am unsubscribing

prime swallow
# spare osprey well the human sees his needs, if open ai manages to convince (unintentionally) ...

Understood!

I hope Midjourney, and all the others, existing and future, keep improving their own models and capability.

Also...

There's a real chance that some specific training for an AI means that it is just not as good at other things.

We see this with LLM-type AI - they are amazing at words, and can't reliably do much the 'basic math stuff that any computer does easy'.

I would hate us to have to choose between 'normal program or LLM' as our one answer to anything.

As we keep going, we may find that there's a huge range of things that are exclusive once we start building them into AI.

I don't dream of OpenAI being the monolith, the one provider to turn to for AI answers. I suspect that we're going to need a lot more humans, and a lot more AI, than we're currently even considering we might need.

But sure, to do comics, we may only need one type of AI, and one might outcompete the rest, or many end up being equally good, at which point I suspect OpenAI might choose to cede the field to the equally good variants, once there's no clear way to further improve any time soon in that area.

Probably by making their form of it a bit more expensive than the competition. If OpenAI offers their comic-making service for the $20 a month of ChatGPT+, then Midjourney can attempt to get a market of folks willing to pay perhaps $19 a month for the image focused stuff, or whatever.

OpenAI seems to be going for safe AGI for all, and even state that their mission is accomplished even if they merely help someone else achieve this. I don't think they particularly want to outcompete anyone, and I think diversity and competition helps them too.

prime swallow
# sly geode i am unsubscribing

Good luck with that. Saw a rash of folks that needed support to be able to resubscribe, the option was greyed out for them.

sly geode
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joking

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cuz i am just annoyed of rollout that was meant for today but fine ill be quiet

hasty solstice
obsidian bone
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Hi 👋
Does anyone know if there is a way to recover deleted conversations from ChatGPT?

sly geode
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no

knotty willow
hasty solstice
normal quarry
tight island
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They’re permanently deleted as far as I know

obsidian bone
#

Oh that unfortunate

prime swallow
tight island
obsidian bone
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Thanks though

raw portal
#

Someone on Reddit said they got a message back from openai that it could take another 2 weeks to roll it out to everyone. Why in God's name would new people get it before long time subscribers if that's the case

knotty willow
prime swallow
hasty solstice
hasty solstice
tight island
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If you registered in a EU country and you use a VPN and somehow gained access to the new feature it’s then a violation of the TOS since they’re Region based

normal quarry
knotty willow
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Is there a chance that they flag me as using a VPN if I just travel to another country ? I'm flying to Indonesia in a few days 💀

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May unlock the features, who knows

tight island
knotty willow
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I think they can detect whether an IP is residential or not though

tight island
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Yeah

knotty willow
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We'll see. At least traveling is not against the TOS so I guess I'll be good lol

tight island
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I know a guy who used VPN to circumvent the EU Rollout

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His account was suspended

knotty willow
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We all know a guy

hasty solstice
knotty willow
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But it never works for us 😔

tight island
hasty solstice
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Well

tight island
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It’s that easy, turn it off

prime swallow
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I'm not a mod, but I don't see a problem with the question as asked.

VPNs are not themselves against TOS.

They can cause a number of problems for the user, ranging from reports of near-constant (like every single message) multiple captcha to endless 'Hrm, something seems to have gone wrong' error messages to, apparently, some suspended accounts.

Other users report having had VPNs running for months without a problem (and then suddenly a problem - which is why they bother to talk about it, I bet). So there's probably some using VPNs just fine, and not having problems, so not here talking about it, why would they, today is Tuesday for them, what's to say? It's normal, isn't it?

I'd be extra scared of VPN use that might appear to OpenAI to be intentionally deceptive or TOS breaking. Otherwise, I'd not worry at all. And some questions about VPN do seem fine, to my reading of the rules.

tight island
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If the intention is to circumvent a rollout that’s region restricted it’s a breach automatically

wary stirrup
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iOS app rolling out today with dalle support!

hasty solstice
tight island
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Wat really!

prime swallow
knotty willow
wary stirrup
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If you have dalle access, everyone here can get it by filling in the form in the pins

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I think it should already be available on android

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Do you not see it

hasty solstice
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yes it is available on Android

knotty willow
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Don't see dall e on Android 🤔

spare osprey
wary stirrup
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Do you have alpha access? Check the pins

tight island
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I do but I don’t see it on Apple surely that’s soon

prime swallow
knotty willow
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That's why

wary stirrup
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No I mean you can only see dalle in the apps if you have alpha access

knotty willow
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Alright

wary stirrup
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Ok fill it in illl add everyone once I get to the office

hasty solstice
wary stirrup
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Yeah we also rolled it out to a %

tight island
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Ohh.. I did fill out before rollout and got access, guess I’ll try again

wary stirrup
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We will most likely roll out more today pending server issues

prime swallow
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uses much self control I'll save my dall-e gens for the web, for now. I'll take it when it's a beta feature rollout out to me naturally 😄

knotty willow
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What's the alpha program itself ? Like not only dall e but I saw some people with vision months ago, with an "Alpha" tag next to their GPT version or something?

wary stirrup
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It’s all just random, different projects handle it differently

hasty solstice
#

and for vision, how many people roll you out each day?

wary stirrup
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There’s no one alpha program

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And I don’t know what’s happening with the other projects

tight island
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It’s the official app

knotty willow
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Okay thanks for the information

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Filled it in

hasty solstice
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Yes thank you for your time

normal quarry
wary stirrup
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Alpha is usually used for pre public models and those people with access probably knows an employee or is in some special test program

small temple
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I have everything but voice. The idea of having a natural voice conversation with chatgpt is very interesting to me.

wary stirrup
sly geode
shell patio
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2 week rollout announcement is waaaay overshooted

tight island
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Perhaps we can ask MOXI the VPN question

prime swallow
tight island
prime swallow
tight island
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Maybe MOXI knows

wary stirrup
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Not for the region thing, just vpn in general

tight island
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Aight I knew it

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Just a general question posed here quite often

sly geode
hot crater
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So the app finally made it through the review, which you had mentioned the other day 😄

wary stirrup
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I have worked on security so I know a little, it’s not anything official but vpns can link you to others doing sketchy stuff, so definitely don’t use it if you can

tight island
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Wait a DALL E App? Or a chatgpt with Dalle support now I’m getting confused

knotty willow
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Will an update be required on Android ? Or it'll just pop up in the app ?

wary stirrup
sly geode
knotty willow
wary stirrup
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I don’t handle support sorry I need to roll dalle out 😭

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From our website

tight island
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Ahh

warm token
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Hey moxi, do you know if we all get vision and voice today on plus ?

wary stirrup
sly geode
hasty solstice