chatgpt-discussions

[keen maple]

Is it only me? 2nd day, tried FF, Chrome, Private Browsing, It used to work. I did not change anything on my side.

Free Research Preview. ChatGPT may produce inaccurate information about people, places, or facts. ChatGPT September 25 Version

[high quail]

From my experience it's less about how many words and more about how many characters, I regularly have it do 2,000 words at a time and I've had it say it can't every so often but it's rare.

[jovial flint]

I use Custom Instructions to tell ChatGPT about my aesthetic preferences for characters in images. Like my favorite colors, etc. But there’s a problem. No matter what I say, it seems to only ever use those colors I specify. I do want it to use those colors more frequently than it otherwise would, but I want it to sometimes use other colors as well. How should I express this without using up too much space?

[high quail]

But I don't think it's a set amount either way. I'm sure there is some theoretical upper limit, but I feel like it's only real limitation on generation is how many users it has at one time

[cobalt idol]

I am guessing the dall-e in chatGPT is separate from image upload (reading images) ?
seems I got the dall-e access now (EU)
but not sure about uploading images for chatGPT

[toxic flax]

bro i had access for like 10 minutes and lost it later when i refresheed

what the frigg

[normal quarry]

it's still rolling out, there may have been a glitch, be patient and it will come

[toxic flax]

im taking this extremely personally. gonna spend some time verbally berating chatgpt

[normal quarry]

be nice to the AI, it may help us when we really need it 🙂

[solar herald]

Can anyone share - what’s the first sign that I will have ChatGPT Dall-E 3 access? Plus icon in the GPT-4 Default Chat or other type of Chat? Mobile or firstly web? Logoff-logon necessary?

[toxic flax]

orange send icon instead of purple for gpt4

[feral zinc]

its a new option under gpt-4 menu and the orange was alpha color, its now the purple gpt-4 logo

[toxic flax]

oh yea what he said

[solar herald]

Thank you!

[toxic flax]

wait so did i have access to the alpha by accident for a bit? cuz i had an orange send button

refresh and it went away though

[prime swallow]

Maybe, or some other momentary glitch. More likely a glitch, alpha's a separate tab like the 3.5 or 4 choices. If you didn't see and click alpha, the orange is likely just a loading in issue.

[dense halo]

Is there anyone real who got access to GPT4-V here? 😂

I keep seeing people sharing screenshots of GPT4-V on Twitter

[prime swallow]

Many have it, many don't. Still being rolled out!

[normal quarry]

I have Voice and DALL-E 3 but not Vision

[dense halo]

Yeah

Same...

[jovial flint]

I do

[dense halo]

Omg can you try things out for me please?

[spare swallow]

I have vision it's impassive! But don't have voice an Dalle 3

[dense halo]

I hope I get it next week

[jovial flint]

I’ll try one thing for you if you’d like

[dense halo]

@jovial flint Yeah, let me send it in private messages

[dense halo]

Sent you a dm

[summer granite]

Hey everyone, I need help with something. When Chat history is turned off, ChatGPT+ is automatically clearing a conversation while I am still typing/conversing. For example: I send a message to GPT-4 asking to write a blog article. It writes a blog article. Now I am writting another prompt to refine the article it wrote. While I am still writing my prompt, the whole screen clears up and starts a new conversation! This doesn't exactly happen right after sending the first message, sometime happens after 3rd or fourth message. This issue started after the most recent update. I tried clearing all cookies, session/local storage of my browser, issue persists. This is super annoying when I am deep into a conversation and their is no way to recover it since I turned off chat history. Is there any way to fix it?

[bitter latch]

Hmmm does this also happen on the mobile app? I have not heard of or seen this behavior myself.

I would reccomend reaching out to [e-mail] with your bug report if it continues

[summer granite]

Don't use mobile app. However on mobile safari I usually end my conversation after 2/3 messages. I only keep a conversation alive on the PC since I need help with my daily tasks

Sent a message through their bug reporting option in help centre. Not sure if they will notice and fix

[bitter latch]

Does the safari version of chatGPT have the same behavior of clearing your messages in longer conversations?

[safe fossil]

Does anyone have any tips when working with large amounts of data in GPT 4? As a proof of concept, I'm trying to use GPT 4 to create an algorithm in python that generates line segments in the shape of a tree. After about 200 lines of code it seems to start rapidly losing large amounts of context. I've tried forcing it to split each task up into units and then working from start to finish on each task but that so far seems to actually make things worse.

[summer granite]

I usually close the safari browser after finishing the conversation and later I don't find the conversation. Just checked the bug-report channel. Looks like a lot of people are having the same issue

[bitter latch]

If you have the chat history off, it will not preserve your chat messages between sessions/reloads

[safe fossil]

It doesn't matter. They're just payment processors.

[summer granite]

Yes I understand that so not having any issue about safari. The issue is on Chrome Desktop. I keep the tab open and while typing, the chat refreshes.

[ornate olive]

sorry for deleting the message so i was asking what to choose between stripe and google and it was just a mistake it's the same price google is cheaper because of the change

and so if i do the subscribe on android does it work on pc ?

[bitter latch]

See if it does the same thing in incognito mode

Or attempt it on firefox or edge

[safe fossil]

It should work everywhere. As far as I know, OpenAI doesn't charge per platform.

[summer granite]

Let me check on incognito. I will let you know. Using firefox won't really help me since all my synced data is in chrome.

[ornate olive]

thanks

[dim ermine]

I've in trouble And I cannot renew my chagpt4 , anyone can help me ?

[normal quarry]

what is happening when you try?

[steady path]

man they really have to do something with the usage cap with GPT4

[normal quarry]

why, what's wrong with it?

[grand dust]

aaaaaand down

aaaaaaandd up

[gaunt ermine]

Please dont tell me its down now

[wind anvil]

Me when chatgpt is down for 0.0000024 seconds

[steep forum]

Lol

Only the app?

“Error validating credentials” for me

[summer granite]

Yup, same thing happens in Incognito too.

I'd say it takes about 10 minutes to refresh

[spark canopy]

Bru

Oh it’s back

Why did it go down for a second

[karmic wagon]

Hey my chat gpt is not working what to do

[spark canopy]

Reload

[karmic wagon]

Both thw accounts not working free and paid one all of them are down what to do tried

Reload religion nothing working

[spark canopy]

Even right now?

[karmic wagon]

I think in india they are slowing down

They just released image feature so maybe everyone is using it

[keen maple]

I found the problem: if you're using own DNS (NextDNS on my side) then make sure that you have enabled access to cdn.oaistatic.com otherwise ChatGPT could not load any resources.

[novel scroll]

is the ChatGPT vision rolling out on time? I saw it was gonna be 2 weeks, that should be next tuesday. If so, am I just unlucky or is it gonna be extended or something like that?

[normal quarry]

it's still rolling out, be patient it will come

[tight island]

us EU folks have it harder, except for those where its banned.

we have to wait overtime.

[wise pivot]

Hi everyone,
I'm interested in openai since 2 years now and using gpt since it's available for everyone.
Today, I watched a video of a man have dall-e 3 in it's gpt interface!
Do u know how it's possible?

[prime swallow]

It's rolling out to everyone with ChatGPT+ accounts. Should have it by end of October

If you're a GPT+ member

[tight island]

plus minus a month or two because we're EU, or UK.

[prime swallow]

Mmm, they didn't say anything about Dall-E-3 and EU/UK. It's Vision that they said delay on for there.

[wise pivot]

can't wait 😋

[spark aspen]

try it on bing

[tight island]

i thought we talked about Vision.

[rose cobalt]

The images on Dall-E 3 inside of Chat-GPT seem to be producing tiny but noticeable dots, as opposed to the integration that exists inside bing's image create. Any ideal why or anyone notice?

[tight island]

do thumbs down then apply feedback

[next garnet]

is the text to speech available now?

[tight island]

Have you checked?

❓

[void coyote]

yes, on gpt4

[prime swallow]

You might be able to specifically ask for smoothing, blending, and more natural, less dotty, styles. But you could have to specifically request that.

[spark aspen]

I'm sorry, but I've only experienced Dall-E 3 within Bing, so I haven't had the opportunity to compare it.

[next garnet]

how does it work? i cant see it

[void coyote]

ooh nvm it's tripping

"I apologize for any confusion. While I can generate audio in a technical sense by creating an audio waveform representation, I can't generate playable audio directly within this environment. However, I can assist you with code that you can run in your local Python environment to generate a text-to-speech audio file."

[acoustic crown]

Hi

[prime swallow]

Voice is on the OpenAI ChatGPT app only, not the web interface.

From your iphone or android device, you'd open chatGPT app, then go into beta settings and turn on voice. From there, the icon in the chat to turn it to voice looks like headphones

[next garnet]

hmm ok then i seem to not have it yet

i dont have any bet setting in my settings

[void coyote]

it's more like "speech2text", and it's notoriously bad (at least atm)

[prime swallow]

it is still rolling out! soon for you, I hope!

[next garnet]

thank you

will check the next days

[untold solstice]

I’m a plus user for 2023, iOS and still don’t have Voice. Many of us still don’t. We should all get it by Monday at the latest.

[next garnet]

im using speechify for the last 6 months to listen to the answers still works fine

just one extra step after every answer, would be great to not need it soon

[prime swallow]

Race ya to be the last to get it!

[untold solstice]

🤣I’m thinking every time I sign out, it sends me to the end of the queue! I need to play hard to get. Good luck

[prime swallow]

Thanks! Good luck to you too. I bet none of us are being sent to the end of the queue, and I doubt logging in or out matters. But our turns will come!

[rose cobalt]

I tried that already. Tested with the same prompts as well, they are still generated only on the chat-gpt side. I'm not sure what the rules are on posting pictures here for examples, but I just posted a reddit thread with a visual comparison on the sub reddit. Thanks for the advice though.

[prime swallow]

Some threads don't allow any images, others are ideal to discuss how prompts matter or the output you get from dall-E.

[next garnet]

you guys all have the speech tool already?

[prime swallow]

And those do accept images

[next garnet]

how did it work? did you have to update the app? or was it just there all of the sudden?

[normal quarry]

it just appears, you don't need to update the app

[next garnet]

ok i see thanks

[toxic flax]

i wonder how they decide who gets it

yall think its random?

[high horizon]

Can chatgbt 3.5 do image to text?

[normal quarry]

it seems random

[toxic flax]

no

[toxic flax]

yea i was thinking that too. they got some dicerolling supercomputer or something

[next garnet]

when did you guys get it ?

recently? today/yesterday?

[toxic flax]

got images 2 days ago but nothing else

[last cobalt]

i got a friend who got it this morning

[normal quarry]

I got Voice several days ago

[next garnet]

wow ok then it seems pretty random

where are you guys from?

maybe its based on country

im from germany

[normal quarry]

Australia

[toxic flax]

U.S.

yeaaaah america woooo

[last cobalt]

I took GPT Plus in France but I'm in Canada at the moment

my friend is in the exact same situation and got it but not me

[distant radish]

Still waiting to gain access to Images. Curious to know if there is a system in place for rolling out new features? Is it based on level of activity, seniority, or is it just random?

[normal quarry]

it seems random

[broken fractal]

I figured it rolls out based on the same conditions as GPT-4 api. Use case, chat history & tos violations, Etc

But that's just speculative

[toxic flax]

dam ive had a lot of violations

[elfin hearth]

Does anyone know the Dalle3 limit

[winged mirage]

I got voice but not vision/dalle

[broken fractal]

Voice usually comes first, you should see Vision very soon

[toxic flax]

i got vision before voice

[wanton lichen]

I've got voice, I've got Dalle3, but vision was what I wanted the most

[mental stratus]

I got vision on my second account but not my main

if you have any specifics you'd like to try while you wait you can ask in something like #ai-discussions (since they allow images)

[wanton lichen]

Do we know what kind of limits there are for Dalle 3? Or is it just the same as our gpt4 limits?

[oak sleet]

I don’t think DALLE3 has limits. I’ve generated over 200 images within my 50 GPT-4 cap

[toxic flax]

damn bro save some for the rest of us

[prime swallow]

Some of us are really good at spacing!

Others do get failed images, and recently, told of a timer.

Great work at delaying yourself between gens, so you never have to wait!

[sly sequoia]

I can’t sub to gpt-4? It’s grayed it out

[quaint pelican]

well it is a limitation, but not everyone will feel that hard

[sly sequoia]

Anyone else got this problem?

[toxic flax]

i ate the button sorry

[reef swallow]

hey how many people have voice in the app because i dont have voice but i have gpt4v

[lavish bronze]

i have voice

i wish i had vision 😭

[toxic flax]

i got vision but no voice

[raven ice]

I've been having issues too; something is definitely very wrong. It's almost like GPT-4 is actually using GPT-3.5 or something. The more i try to guide it, the worse it gets. It's like the conversation history context length is like 2000 tokens again.

[reef swallow]

openai loves to not say ANYTHING about what theyre doing and its extremely frustrating

why are they rolling out vision and voice separately so some get both while others get one or the other. makes no sense at all.

[lethal grail]

Did y’all get browsing on phone? Or anyONE? On IOS

[toxic flax]

yes

[dense halo]

When will the photo features come to chatgpt?

[vapid fiber]

research and experimentation? 😄 idk

[dense halo]

How do I get Bing chat gpt to roast my selfie?

Dang it it blurs out faces?

I want chat gpt 4 to roast me

[reef swallow]

im not saying they shouldnt roll it out i just think rolling out everything separately is odd.

[molten cargo]

What are you talking about guys ?

[velvet geyser]

is Chatgpt only showing this for me ? "couldnt login with the plugin"

[quiet kayak]

where could we learn more about how to use Dall E?

[slate berry]

is there a specific thing you're struggling with?

[velvet geyser]

me ?

[slate berry]

your issue seems to be related to the third-party plugin. I don't think I can help much with that, unfortunately. I was wondering if V needed help with Dall-E. I might be more useful with that 😅

[velvet geyser]

oh

well, i can't install all the plugins

[quiet kayak]

I want to know more about how to use Dall E and its abilities

[velvet geyser]

like, literally

[slate berry]

Dall-E 3 is being rolled out to ChatGPT right now. If you're looking for help with prompts, you can browse #1021130377026351105 and/or #❌┃prompt-help . Most of the prompt tips are applicable for Dall-E 2, and that can be accessed here: https://labs.openai.com/

[velvet geyser]

all the plugins are showing "couldn't login with the plugin"

._.

hm, now i know why this is happening, it's because of the language thing

[remote badger]

Hi

[unreal stag]

Hi! I'm unable to start new converastions with GPT-4 Data Analysis, it takes a long time to respond to a simple "hello" and then it return the generation error red box, any one else with the same issue?

[raw lance]

do you mean Plus members can use Dall E 3 on ChatGPT now?

[merry wagon]

No, most people can't

[slate berry]

Some Plus members have access right now. however, I don't know how many do or how long the entire rollout will take

[raw lance]

Ok, just curious. Dall E is terrible anyway.

[slate berry]

have you seen Dall-E 3?

[unreal ice]

dalle-3 is mindblowing

[maiden fractal]

you didnt try dalle 3 to said that

[raw lance]

is it better than Realistic Vision of Stable Diffusion and Midjourney?

[unreal ice]

yes

especially the ChatGPT integration

[maiden fractal]

i cancel my MJ plan cause yes

[broken fractal]

How would a guy access said DE3, given I have permission for it?

[slate berry]

it would be a dropdown under GPT-4 on ChatGPT's website

[broken fractal]

Ohh it's integrated right into ChatGPT, neato

[slate berry]

yup! ChatGPT will expand and rewrite prompts. It's pretty mind-blowing

[broken fractal]

$20/mo is beginning to be a steal for this platform frankly!

[prime swallow]

Though, Dall-E-3 will usually generate an image with the text 'Dall-E-3 is terrible' if asked, so... ehh? The image will often be gorgeous and incredible too.

[broken fractal]

Ive been using Vision to save all my Walmart receipts and putting them in a nice table by price

It's super handy

[unreal ice]

ChatGPT has a strange understanding of how to get exactly what you want too, ask it to adjust something in the image and it changes the prompt so that you actually get it, sometimes it takes a few tries, but I've only run into a couple things it's been completely unable to produce

[woeful scaffold]

ChatGPT is very slow right now and that's making me appreciate more the captchas I was complaining about earlier

with the exception of that messsed up really difficult catpcha that should be illegal

[bleak steeple]

dang, just like 6 weeks ago I looked into a way to do this easily. Crazy how quickly GPT is moving, to now be the best solution

[broken fractal]

Yeah Vision is a beast at text extraction. Even poor handwriting

[bleak steeple]

very excited to hear this 🙏🔥

[west ivy]

im stil without chatgpt vision... is it based on region?

[broken fractal]

Probably, openAI tends to release things to Americans first

Cuz it's an American company iirc

[digital prism]

Many american tech companies release to Canada first, because they're most like Americans, but nobody cares about them, really. (JK, I'm canadian). Also in this case Canada has legislation making them not attractive to AI im sure.

[quiet locust]

Can anyone help me log out the entire device from my chatgpt account?

[eternal rock]

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[stiff mulch]

funny~9days passed,still not receive voice talk and Dalle3

Thousands of new users and new account got those. Betrayed old users?

[maiden fractal]

it is random also #announcements they still rolling out

[stiff mulch]

Actually I don’t buy it

Fake random

[maiden fractal]

im plus since long time and i dont have all the new feature

and near usa

[stiff mulch]

Me neither

[maiden fractal]

so yes it is random

[stiff mulch]

And I told u

[grave raptor]

ive been a plus user from day 1, still waiting on the vision feature. just be patient.

[stiff mulch]

There are some e-market on telegram

Selling voice talk accounts,hundreds of accounts

It’s a grey industry chain

[raw lance]

look, you need to understand it's business, the goal is for earning profit. my suggestion is you show less inserested in the products, then you would get more features and service.

[stiff mulch]

And still us first plus subs,some of us even not received Bing browsers and images analy

[maiden fractal]

if you dont have bing you need to enable in setting

[stiff mulch]

Not me

It’s not about setting ok

Actually u cannot find “new feature” in setting interface

[toxic flax]

no way people cant wait a day for the voice 😂

[stiff mulch]

I think the positive logic is first subscribe,first got roll out

[toxic flax]

doesnt matter imo, everyone gets it within a couple days of each other anyways

[stiff mulch]

At least we can get a waiting list,but not got roll out at the end of the day,I mean 2wks later

[grave raptor]

you could do something better other than sitting on discord crying about it

[stiff mulch]

Yeah, i bought another accounts

[toxic flax]

voice def not worth spending extra money for

[stiff mulch]

I just complain and I know what I can do

[grave raptor]

yeah i used the voice feature once. found it a bit creepy and never used it again lol

[toxic flax]

im just tryna talk to it on my walks to class

[stiff mulch]

The roll out strategy is immature

[grave raptor]

and youre acting very mature philip.

[stiff mulch]

Cause the server’s burden too heavy

You paid for this,you’ve right to speak out your frustration

[stiff mulch]

You know what,if u know every new feature you’ll be the last one push,let me guess your reaction

[candid pecan]

How does the "rolling out" work? Is it random? Region based?

[grave raptor]

i believe the rolling out is random

[maiden fractal]

random

[stiff mulch]

“Let it be,I’m okay .idont care about new features baby”

[grave raptor]

i dont have the vision feature, and although i would really love to have it right now, im waiting patiently

[stiff mulch]

We’re discussing another thing,as a loyal subs,if you been told you always got roll out on the bottom of the lists,the situation is different

[grave raptor]

ive been subscribed to chat gpt 4 from the day it came out. youre not the only loyal sub here bud

[stiff mulch]

The roll out principle is awful,I mean it

[grave raptor]

but cry me a river

[toxic flax]

bro 😂 nobody cares everyone is waiting. your chances of getting it randomly were just as high as someone elses and maybe that person would be complaining too instead

[stiff mulch]

You just told everyone”patient,not cry it”
But Russian got money from selling voice accounts,funny

[toxic flax]

so buy them. u expect openai to know all their customers life stories?

[maiden fractal]

lets stay respectful please

[toxic flax]

someone get my man philip lee the new features!!

[stiff mulch]

Let me tell you an ancient Chinese memo

“Fear not scarcity but inequality”

[toxic flax]

bro why u getting philosophical cuz u getting a feature a day later like the rest of us. random sounds more equal than rolling out to those who signed up first. no reason to prioritize one subscriber over another

u think this is some fascist government or something

[grave raptor]

if you dont like how it is then maybe stop paying for the subscripton 🤷‍♀️

[stiff mulch]

You create thousands new accounts,and you’ll know it’s a real random or fake one.see what Russians do

[stiff mulch]

Yeah that’s my strategy

[toxic flax]

doubt its that easy to tell. what about the real people who would get mixed up in that? plus each bot is paying their fair share regardless in exchange for the service

[stiff mulch]

From now on,I’ll abandon my old account and buy a new account which got access to every new feature

[toxic flax]

ok bro waste ur money

[warm token]

can anyone help me with a bug, basically cant buy Plus, cause it says its my current plan even though i never bought it, my card didnt get charged anything, i cant use GPT 4. Last time i subscribed was in july

[grave raptor]

good on you phillip, then you can stop having a sook about it

[stiff mulch]

From which platform?

[warm token]

browser

[stiff mulch]

Try AppStore

[warm token]

okay

[dense halo]

is the image function available to all gpt4 users or no?

[grave raptor]

not to everyone, its still rolling out

[dense halo]

alright, thanks, I was gonna buy a month to try ^^

[grave raptor]

nice

[sly geode]

Day 8- I login everyday to see if I got image upload but no 😔

[slate berry]

🙏

[lavish wharf]

Anyone else getting a lot of errors recently?

[digital prism]

my brother in ai, we wait together

[grave raptor]

its like christmas morning everytime i get a new gpt featurue lol

[frigid nebula]

Im refreshing and going back to back bed again and again like a mad lad

[warm token]

when no vision

[sly geode]

Why didn't they release the form for vision and voice too

[warm token]

yep, i had the exact same problem, had to create a new account.

you can subscribe on AppStore but for me it was a bit more expensive than on the web(prob depends on your country)

[tacit raft]

is it legal for dalle to output copyrighted logos?

[digital prism]

whats legal is decided in the courts

[tacit raft]

i had an output contain the windows logo and i didn’t even ask for it which is interesting

[worn hollow]

I'd like to renew my sub, but the option to do so is greyed out. It doesn't let me do anything. Has anyone else faced the same issue? I opened a ticket but... one whole week for this seems excessive .

[warm token]

read a bit above, experienced it and other users too ^^

thought i was the only one encountering the issue so created a new acc to subscribe

[warm token]

wdym a month or two

[candid pecan]

I wonder how many emails written by chatgpt have been sent to openai 🤔

[worn hollow]

Thanks, just posted in there.

[sweet orchid]

Is there a way to give myself the 3 month free trial for premium?

[slate berry]

there is not a way to get a free trial to ChatGPT Plus to my knowledge

[sweet orchid]

There is, I can show you a pic

somewhere

@slate berry check dms

[worn hollow]

@warm token Situation fixed, had to upgrade through android

@hard dirge

@candid pecan When you upgrade from android, the situation gets instantly fixed. ♥

[warm token]

niceuu, i had the option to do it via appstore too, but it was like 5$ more than on web due to my country, preferred to just create new acc

[slate berry]

hmmmm, I'm not sure how that feature works

[sly geode]

It's been 8 hours since I've slept overnight and yet I see 💀

I apologize for the inconvenience, but DALL·E is still experiencing high demand, and I'm unable to generate images at the moment. If there's anything else I can assist you with, please feel free to let me know, and I'll be happy to help.

[prime swallow]

Everyone seems to love Dall-E! They work to scale systems.

That message isn't you using it a lot - it's about everyone right then!

[sly geode]

So it's just timezone I have to wait for USA to go sleep which is in 2/3hours I guess

😔

[prime swallow]

To be honest, I've been using it off and on across today. I've gotten 1-4 images almost every try.

[sly geode]

I need it to design a logo u know

"A one-line logo set against a pristine white background, elegantly spelling out the word 'SUTR'. The unique feature of this design is its one-line approach: each letter is meticulously shaped using a single, uninterrupted thread-like line, maintaining continuity throughout. This ultra-thin thread seamlessly connects each letter, creating a sense of unity and elegance. The entire word appears as if it's been gracefully penned in one harmonious motion

@prime swallow can u maybe help me refine prompt

[prime swallow]

I didn't know!

But some options:

Have chatGPT help you design it, then take it to Bing image creator or some other option to actually make it as an image.

[prime swallow]

What do you mean by 'Refine prompt'? Prompt engineering tips?

[sly geode]

Any other open source model that does typography?

[prime swallow]

For most people, Bing's also using Dall-E-3.

Also, you can try again to make your logo in a few minutes.

most of my Dall-E-3/chatGPT image requests got at least 1 image today. Some actually got all 4.

Most got 3.

[sly geode]

I see

[prime swallow]

The only tips I'd suggest:

if that isn't quite what you want, but you're not sure how to reword it, try asking ChatGPT "Riff on this prompt, keeping most details the same, including the word."

[warm token]

personally just waiting for vision

hopefully i get it soon

[prime swallow]

'Riff' is a bit vague to the model, but it usually lists these meanings for it:

Music: In music, a riff is a short, repeated musical phrase or motif that forms the basis of a song or a section of a song. Riffs are often used in rock, blues, jazz, and other genres to create memorable and recognizable melodies or instrumental hooks.

Casual Conversation: In informal conversation, "riffing" can refer to a spontaneous and often humorous exchange of ideas or comments between people. It's a form of improvisation where individuals bounce ideas or jokes off each other in a playful manner.

Comedy: In comedy, a riff can be a comedian's improvised or spontaneous commentary or jokes on a particular topic. Comedians often use riffing to engage with their audience and build humor on the fly.

Technology: In the context of technology or coding, "riffing" can refer to a rapid and creative development or brainstorming session where ideas and solutions are generated quickly and informally.

And in use, it makes small, creative changes that stay true to the core concept.

[grizzled thicket]

Is there still a message limit on GPT 4?

I don't see the message on the client talking about 50 messages an hour or whatever anymore. Didn't see an announcement either though.

[prime swallow]

It's there, hover over GPT-4 on a new chat screen and read near the top.

50 messages/3 hours.

[grizzled thicket]

Ah ok. I didn't know it was /3 hrs. I've fortunately never hit that.

[prime swallow]

Yeah! Between the speed it takes to type to the AI, and for the AI to answer, if you don't go faster than about 7 minutes between each of your inputs (and if you don't regen what the AI outputs) you probably won't ever hit the limit 🙂

I definitely don't recommend playing Hangman with GPT-4, hehe!

[sweet orchid]

hmm okay

[cloud pewter]

bing chat also has dalle 3 and it’s free to use

but chatgpt version can refine prompts

[jovial flint]

It says my custom instructions won't be shared, but if someone chooses to continue the conversation, will the custom instructions still be in effect? Like, could someone in theory extract information from it by asking questions as if they were me?

[wary stirrup]

We had server issues today

A lot

They’ve been mostly resolved

So many server issues……..

[shut karma]

#off-topic message

[slate berry]

hang in there moxi! We (at least I) believe in you 🫶

[simple pasture]

ofc u gotta believe, it's a worker

[wary stirrup]

No, custom instructions are not shared

[worldly mantle]

Is the small image photo button next to send a message vision?

I dont see anything in beta features

[prime swallow]

No. And the model may struggle to handle how it was speaking before with what makes sense to say 'now' that the CI are not in play.

[prime swallow]

You could potentially have someone try to analyze whatever conversations you share, but only what you allow them to see. It's possible someone very skilled in emotional intelligence and psychology, and who also knew the model well, might be able to read your inputs and the AI's outputs and have a pretty good idea what your CI probably says, at least as it affects the showing conversation.

That doesn't mean they know more about you, but they might have clues about what you used that time for your CI.

[sweet quartz]

Yes it is !

[prime swallow]

Another thing you can do before you give anyone a shared link, is take the link and open it yourself. You'll see it like anyone else would, whomever you give the link to. If you don't like what you see, delete the link, it won't let anyone else open it after deletion.

[worldly mantle]

great 👍 nothing in beta features so I was confused

[sweet quartz]

Congrats hoping i'm next and not last

[worldly mantle]

Is the dalle-3 thing rolling out at the same time too?

[dense halo]

The new GPT geatures roll-out is kinda BS. Some people get it and never use it while others paying for plus get it in the last batch weeks to a month later. Feels like a cop out

[jovial flint]

Ah, I guess I just assumed it would work differently for me. It's clear that the custom instructions aren't carried over. Thanks!

[worldly mantle]

Everyone who gets it is paying for plus

[eternal geyser]

It’s like really random, I have everything except the Voice feature…

[silent flame]

He means despite all plus users are paying for their service, only few selected ones get extra goodies too

[worldly mantle]

He is implying that some people without plus are getting it "while others paying for plus"

[silent flame]

I've never heard of instances of free users getting access to features which even some (unlucky) plus users don't have access to

[analog patio]

anyone got voice conversation yet?

[lethal grail]

Nope still waiting.

[soft zinc]

Anybody else getting errors on all image uploads?

(after hours of it working fine earlier today)

[digital silo]

You may have to wait a bit if you reached a limit

[analog patio]

yeah. sucks. been waiting a while

[soft zinc]

Oh, what's the limit?

[spare swallow]

Still waiting

[analog patio]

android or ios

[spare swallow]

ios

[analog patio]

they pay less attention to android 😔

[spare swallow]

They should roll out by Monday

[analog patio]

🤞

hopefully

[spare swallow]

I expect all user access to them since Sat and Sun are weekend

[analog patio]

yeah that would make sense

[livid pier]

Today, I still haven't received GPT-4V and voice conversation🙃

I hope I get it by the end of the week

If I don't get it until next Monday, I'll be devastated

It makes me sad to see my friends playing

Yesterday, I finished reading the paper about GPT-4V written by Microsoft, and deeply felt its power

And then I'm even sadder because I haven't got it yet

[dire basalt]

what is gpt-4v

[livid pier]

GPT-4 with Image Recognition

[dire basalt]

oh. i have played with it

[livid pier]

It's really powerful

😫

[dire basalt]

meh its mid tbh but depends on waht you use it for

[sick flint]

with selenium automation, who needs API

[elfin birch]

Can you elaborate?

[digital prism]

selenium lets you script website interactions for testing, or whatever you want

[sick flint]

Im currently using chatgpt3.5 on automation mode

[digital prism]

thats so inefficient lol

[sick flint]

generating literally endless content for my website, youtube, blog,

[digital prism]

fair, but API would be fewer steps

less data transfered

[sick flint]

I mean if you are on home network, you dont really care

[digital prism]

my god

[sick flint]

and it is not like you need to be super low latency and super bandwidth sensitive

[digital prism]

but you're waiting for website to load, etc

[sick flint]

my home network is unlimited for fixed price

[digital prism]

its extra cost in time too

[sick flint]

like I said not latency sensitive

[digital prism]

i know i just can't let that level of waste go unmentioned lol

[sick flint]

it is not like generating in 10 min and 30 min will make a different

[digital prism]

a python script that GPT makes for you could do it 10x faster

[sick flint]

and when you do content production it is good to have some latency in between

[elfin birch]

Possible legal ramifications for web scraping over API

[dense halo]

greater the supply, the less the value

[elfin birch]

Many websites prohibit webscraping in their ToS

[dense halo]

robots.txt

[sick flint]

I predict in the next 5 years, 90% of content will be ai generated

and content will be personalised

[elfin birch]

That's quite a conservative estimate tbqhwyf

[dense halo]

It'll be human + AI

With AI doing more and more of the work

[sick flint]

like 1 article written by human, then AI that has learnt from the user preferences will rewrite it before it gets display on your screen

1 story can be written in a billion different way

[dense halo]

You can do this with one prompt already on Edge with Bing Chat

[sick flint]

the point is you dont even need to prompt in the future

[dense halo]

But at this point social media algorithms are still better at predicting what you like

[sick flint]

it is just automatically there

[elfin birch]

Isn't that conducive to an echo chamber?

[dense halo]

No

Well, AI could just repeat your views back to you.

That would be an echo chamber

Well, just an echo.

Echo chamber refers to insular social media bubbles where everyone repeats and amplifies their views

[elfin birch]

If AI rewrites everything to fit one's views as @sick flint proposes wouldn't that be the case?

[sick flint]

it is an echo chamber

that will guide you to purchase decision

[dense halo]

I thought you meant rewrite it in your content style

[sick flint]

spending decision

[dense halo]

Not, agreeing with your views

But I don't think many people would want an echo chamber AI.

[sick flint]

it is only the matter of the prompt that these company will incorporate in the experience

[eternal rock]

`` Server Tip: ``

Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!

[dense halo]

Echo chambers happen unintentionally due to social media algos not because people actively seek them out.

[elfin birch]

Let's disambiguate here so we understand each other. @sick flint what did you mean by "user preferences" in #chatgpt-discussions message

[dense halo]

Most people probably want AI that tells them what's true.

[sick flint]

...... . Add a guidance for the user to purchase X from Y at link Z

user preference is what the user watch, like interact with in the past

[dense halo]

But that could be so specifically tailored to actually be useful to you.

[sick flint]

the context of that user live, work, relationship

[elfin birch]

This sounds like a recommendation algorithm, not a rewriting AI

[dense halo]

In an ideal world, advertising could be so targetted that every ad you see is a product that improves your life.

[sick flint]

yeah it is recommendation but on a higher level

[dense halo]

Yeah, we already have this with social media to a certain extent.

[elfin birch]

Precisely

[sick flint]

the greatest mind are all in advertising for a reason you know

[dense halo]

That's not true

Have you met business majors?

[sick flint]

they are in the business to sell sth

[elfin birch]

Business majors forgetting their coloring assignment due at 11:59 PM

[dense halo]

Greatest minds are probably in tech and academia

[sick flint]

you need to sell sth to make money, whether it is good, service or a company itself

[dense halo]

Most valuable company, Apple, isn't built on ad revenue model.

[sick flint]

they are selling the device, so they need to advertise it in someway.

[dense halo]

Their devices practically advertise themselves.

[sick flint]

they are doing it in a masterful way that you think it are not

[digital prism]

the greatest minds are probably unknown

[elfin birch]

What makes you say that?

[sick flint]

thats the pinnacle of advertisement

[dense halo]

The greatest minds are on the OpenAI Discord

lmao

[sick flint]

making the user think the product are advertising themselfves

[digital prism]

theres nothing in our economy, culture, society, government or anything that ensures the best minds rise to the top. Since most people don't rise to the top, most will be obscure and relatively unknown, probably undiscovered.

[dense halo]

Yep, but it doesn't feed into the social media/recommendation algo model that much. They make good devices, with ads on their backs. And blue/green chat bubbles and so on.

[ember copper]

😂 indeed

[sick flint]

they are advertising on social media

[bronze carbon]

! Help
I start a private/incognito conversation with GPT4. Everything is going well, I leave for 5 minutes and then type a new message in the same conversation-- entire chat goes away -- all of it -- no warnings, no errors shown. I've experienced this multiple times and I've started seeing behavior from 18hours ago. It used to work fine before that.
Is this happening with you guys as well?

[digital prism]

god does it? i can't argue with that. literally.

[sick flint]

I guess you are never bombarded with ads about iphone like me

[dense halo]

If you're a greatest mind of all time in the USA, you will certainly be discovered. Unless you live in some isolated cult or something.

[sick flint]

and the people that use those phone, celebrity, KOL, ...

[digital prism]

So every great mind is doing great things to be discovered? Even the ones in poverty? nah.

[dense halo]

I have seen way more Samsumg/Android/Google ads than Apple ads

[digital prism]

magical thinking

[sick flint]

if they are great they wont be contented in poverty

if you think someone has a great mind and he is still in poverty, he is not so great

[digital prism]

everybody has their own definition of great. its why you should never use the term "great minds" for anything serious.

[elfin birch]

You just used it though

[digital prism]

with my own definition, in response to his use

[elfin birch]

What's your definition

[sick flint]

yeah, Im talking about general sucess, have family, have wealth to support family and help people around you in meaningful ways.

[elfin birch]

No, @sick flint started referencing business majors as the ones with the greatest minds

really?

[signal carbon]

ew

[sick flint]

yes sir

[digital prism]

Honestly though, in this age of available resources, a great mind is anyone with passion and commitment. thats my definition. I know a lot of people with great minds who feel trapped in poverty. Doesn't matter how smart you are, life doesn't care.

[idle lagoon]

I like this update.

[brisk dirge]

Did anyone from EU get vision yet ?

[opal isle]

hey there ive bought chatGTP4 monthly today and my cousin got the Dall-E for free as a beta application in it, but i dont? Any reason why i dont can use it for free also?

[livid pier]

Don't worry, you'll get it as a subscriber

[warm totem]

they are rolling out "randomly". you just have to wait, it will come

[livid pier]

It's just that you need to wait as long as I do

I hope you don't fall apart like me waiting for GPT-4V and voice chat

[split perch]

well looking at all the "features" like plugins or data analysis or the webbrowing which work 10% of the time i wont get my hopes up. gpt4 was nice when it first launched now its nerfed af. Look into lama from meta if yall want something of more cabablity. gpt4 is becomming more and more liberal censoring/gatekeeping politics

[warm totem]

good for you

[signal carbon]

Ever try to make coffee in a teapot?

[split perch]

im guessing you use it for Low intellectual quotient tasks so you should be just fine with gpt

[warm totem]

there is no quality downgrade in gpt4, but the model now asks for more precise prompting

[split perch]

what ever floats your boat buddy

[warm totem]

bro, you're on the openai discord arguing gpt4 is worse than lama, what is the point ?

[split perch]

The objective, you see, is to foster dialogic symbiosis between computational paradigms, particularly when applied to cognitively intensive endeavors. But then again, not all venues are conducive to such elevated exchanges.

[signal carbon]

Quite a sesquipedalian way of saying "Square peg. Round hole. Why no fit?"

anyway... moseys on out of the argument. Lol

[bleak sapphire]

Man, the copyright filter gpt uses for dall-e is way to strong. THe prompts are not even close to what i describe.

[signal carbon]

For sure, I did ask for some stuff to see how Dall-e would handle niche features, and was legit surprised to get a refusal because of copyright. Makes sense, but oof lol

[bleak sapphire]

So far, Bing is alot better than GPT. Hope this will change soon.

[split perch]

ur right, but you cant say that, the gpt fanboys are gonna come for you

[elfin birch]

He just did say that though 😵

[frigid nebula]

for dallE?

depends on your intent

i dont like theres limited control in gpt

but also ive had some of the most beautiful results ive seen from dalle yet using it

[bleak sapphire]

Bing doesnt alter your prompt. Can you ellaborated why my intent can affect this result? As in why GPT can be better than Bing

[frigid nebula]

i mean which you choose to use

depends on what youre trying to achieve

does that make sense?

[bleak sapphire]

No. Bing and GPT uses Dall-E 3. They transfer the prompt to Dall-E. GPT alters your prompt before transferring it. Bing does not this. That means Bing can do 100% of what GPT can do, but GPT cant do 100% of what Bing does.

[frigid nebula]

I know

thats what im saying...

but it can help translate your prompt and make it more able to be understood by Dall E in a way that delivers beautiful results

also i have a feeling gpt's dallE is a little better

[bleak sapphire]

Yes, but you can use GPT to create a more efficient prompt, and serve that to bing. GPT will remove stuff from your prompt it think breaks its content policy.

[grave raptor]

i believe you can tell gpt not to alter your prompt

[elfin birch]

What happens when you try to send a prompt to Bing that breaks Bing's content policy?

[bleak sapphire]

Yes, but then it stops processing the image.

[bleak sapphire]

Bings content policy is as far as I can see, just restricted to adult stuff.

[elfin birch]

Not quite
https://www.bing.com/images/create/contentpolicy
https://labs.openai.com/policies/content-policy

[somber igloo]

https://chat.openai.com/share/54f8be8d-d8c0-4893-b6ad-c5b1c017203b
Well this is awkward.

[elfin birch]

Orbital missile inbound

[abstract kiln]

Hello. I am new to discord in general. And to this server. I hope this is the right place to ask. Is it allwowed to have multiple accounts (not multiple plus subscriptions) just for the sake of kind of having sort of "workspaces" such as that you do not clutter topics with each other that do not attend to each other. Thanks.

[normal quarry]

it's recommended to have just one account and only 2 accounts can be created with one phone number

[abstract kiln]

Okay thank you very much for your answer robert !

I also just realize I have a typo in my name

[elfin birch]

I personally have 5 conversations named by their subject matter and any question I have will fit within one of those 5 conversations

No need for different accounts

[sturdy umbra]

Those who have ChatGPT Vision in their Plus subscription have already compared the results with Bing's AI Vision? I have it available on Bing, but the results are very poor.

Do you think ChatGPT Plus Vision, when released, will be better? Because if it's the same, it's really bad...

[strange cedar]

anyone noticed chatgpt being unusually slow today

[sturdy umbra]

Here too... very slow

[strange cedar]

L, guess i make this list by hand :p

[high sphinx]

Well they have advertised that you "own" and can use all the the generated pictures, which is probably why they need a strong copyright censor, or you get in copyright problems with the pictures when you use them

[elfin birch]

Inference speed is inversely proportional to server load. More people using it right now than some time before

[strange cedar]

ah, legal handwaving

[signal carbon]

Legal handwaving, or respect for creative ownership. Who can say, really 🤷‍♂️

The world may never know

[high sphinx]

I believe the censor may be even more problematic in the future sadly :/ I don't know about artists/brands but I don't think they want their art/brand to be together with bad reputation stuff

but on the other side, we can do all this stuff with photoshop too

[strange cedar]

well yes this is why everyone is making mickey mouse images with it

[signal carbon]

One thing's for sure: copyright law ain't ready ||(and probably never will be tbh haha)||

[high sphinx]

yup copyright law is long from perfect lol

[signal carbon]

That's when you end up with stuff like DropBox closing the account of a big-name tv show producer because their algorithm wasn't built to consider that the account holder might also be the copyright owner. Lmaooo

I think the equivalent would be like if I asked dall-e to generate images of something that I owned the copyright on. It wouldn't really be able to understand that "Nonono, I own this. We're all safe to do some generations here." lol

But also I'd think that an argument could be made that a more form-fitting solution would be more appropriate, so... idk. We work with what we get. Lol

[strange cedar]

Interesting, I got bonked for that last message by automod 😅

Let me try and reword that... I think a lot of people who don't like generative AI are trying to anger disney by posting mickey mouse pictures?

[high sphinx]

There should be some universal copyright key you get to prooe thats you lol idk

[dense halo]

I have chatgpt plus, but unforunately Im unable to use the Chatgpt vision feature, how to get that ?

[normal quarry]

it's still rolling out, be patient and it will come

[split perch]

unless you live in EU

[elfin birch]

or the UK

[split perch]

yup

[dense halo]

Im from Europe.

[normal quarry]

then it will come later

[split perch]

welcome to the club

[dense halo]

im just jealous, it has some extraordinary features, and it is getting delayed

[split perch]

i want the vision feature so bad, to see if it can acutally translate advanced electrical schematics

[normal quarry]

be patient, it will come

[dense halo]

Thanks robert

[split perch]

is there any public reasoning why it wont come to EU or is that secret politics stuff

[dense halo]

GDPR and member state policies maybe ?

[normal quarry]

we don't know, it's probably GDPR related

[split perch]

well then it wont ever come to EU if its that

is there no way to bypass it buying a new account with vpn or something

[normal quarry]

bypassing geographic restrictions is against the TOS and we do not discuss that here

[feral zinc]

yes its coming to eu and openai has gdpr checkmark on their page

[split perch]

oh ofc, i was talking hypothetically, for research purpeses

[feral zinc]

its possible they are just organizing a gdpr compliant storage for the images which causes extra delay

[solar herald]

ChatGPT Plus - subscription to train your patience while waiting for GPT-4V rollout 😂🤣😂

[violet bloom]

"not YET available in UK/EU".

[pallid marsh]

hi guys , do any one knows how to get access to dalle 3 from chatgpt (i'm a plus user )

[normal quarry]

wait for it to be rolled out

[pallid marsh]

thank you , any idea of how much i need to wait ?

[normal quarry]

it is being rolled out this month

[pallid marsh]

thank ya

[frigid nebula]

I have dalle3 with gpt - if anyone has GPT vision and not Dalle3 and wants to trade prompts, hit me up. Not sure if this is allowed or not so please delete if not!

[zenith geyser]

Hi, does anyone know the reason for this? My plus account expired today, but I was not shown the upgrade page. The 4.0 window is also locked. Does anyone know how to do this?

[feral zinc]

multiple people have had the same issue recently

[zenith geyser]

why

[feral zinc]

we dont know, possibly a bug

[zenith geyser]

😫

[feral zinc]

some have said it works better via the app

[zenith geyser]

I can’t upgrade on my phone either.

[timber oyster]

What do you mean? Via the app it should work most of the time. What's the problem in the app?

[quaint pelican]

Thinking of it. The vision one can help me in Photoshop as well i guess

I show it a badly photoshopped image and it can basically tell what to improve and how and where

[feral zinc]

doubt it

[gusty gyro]

hooopsy until now i cannot resubscribe, even on laptop website

dubsy whooopsy

[normal quarry]

do you have an iOS device, can you subscribe there?

[gusty gyro]

nopppsy whooopsy

[timber oyster]

Android should work too. Any reason why only IOS (just asking because I already wondered yesterday)?

[gusty gyro]

just wondering why is there no resubscribing option? kindda weird and at the same time funny. 😂😂😂

[maiden fractal]

I think this is a bug for today. Several users reported in #1070006915414900886 about can't subs

[quaint pelican]

If it works like some people showcased, if not then not 😄

But GPT can definitelly help with Photoshop in general

[dense halo]

Would it theoretically work if OpenAI added a way for people to specify which beta features they'd like most, and those features be the ones that people get access to first?

[maiden fractal]

Can always use the #1070006151938314300

[dense halo]

I'm just not sure if it would technologically be to hard.

[late fractal]

When will the chat gpt api be able to access the internet and read pdf files?

[river nebula]

it is, you have to use plugins

this week it has read all sorts of diffrent files for me.it can also create those files if you want.

[normal quarry]

there is no news on that, these are probably things you would add to your application and feed the API your data

[dense halo]

pls explain further

[normal quarry]

the API is intended for programmers to include GPT in their applications, reading data from the web or importing text from PDF files should be coded into your application

[inland heron]

anyone having issues with chatgpt 4 atm?

[normal quarry]

it's working as expected for me

[dense halo]

At one point in the past day or 2, I had a pretty high error rate, but it's fine now.

chatgpt

[inland heron]

are you sure? it happened just a moment ago and won't continue

[dense halo]

yes, I meant ChatGPT.

[inland heron]

seems like I can't continue a specific conversation

[dense halo]

rip

[inland heron]

that's weird

[dense halo]

Maybe try and edit a message earlier in the conversation. That's fixed that issue when I've tried.

[normal quarry]

https://status.openai.com

[inland heron]

anyone know why a shortcut to go to the top of page/bottom of page might have stopped working for chatgpt pages?

used to be really handy to go ctrl+home/end

this is windows

[dense halo]

That sounds like the sort of thing that either might already have an answer somewhere on the internet, or ChatGPT might be able to help you find a solution.

[candid pecan]

Does "rolling out" mean its random within like a week or month?

[maiden fractal]

Yep

[candid pecan]

Ow. It should give you an estimate

[maiden fractal]

Estimate : October

[dense halo]

October what

4.5?

[inland heron]

it does sound like that, but it's not working. I've tested the shortcut on other sites and it works. It just doesn't work on chatgpt

[dense halo]

As long as it's not against the terms and conditions, maybe try using a browser extension that can help, or writing a custom browser DevTools console JavaScript script. (But only if it's not against the terms and conditions!)

[dense halo]

If either of those methods would be against the terms or conditions, someone please let me know.

btw will we be getting that chatgpt kind of image integration in api as well?

[normal quarry]

Vision or DALL-E 3?

[dense halo]

dalle-3 I reckon?

Where's vision used

[normal quarry]

DALL-E 3 API is coming this year

[dense halo]

It will be independent of gpt api?

[normal quarry]

good question, I am not sure

[dense halo]

I am asking about their integration in api

like feed gpt images through api and get text output

[normal quarry]

that's Vision, that will come later

[novel scroll]

is the voice for chatGPT coming to pc? it seems weird only on ios and android

[normal quarry]

it's only on the mobile apps for now

[dense halo]

Will both ChatGPT Vision as well as Dall-e 3 be invokable from a call of openai.chatCompletion.create()? Or will we have to use another function in the Python library?

[normal quarry]

I don't know, maybe someone else knows and can chime in

[dense halo]

Someone, pls chime in. (Pls 🙏)

[winged moth]

This channel is for chat GPT discussion. You might want to check into another channel.

[dense halo]

Ok.

[inland heron]

I don't think such things would be against ToS, but it sounds like an overkill. Perhaps a script might be good here, though. Good idea, thanks 👍

[mint forum]

i want to turn the chatgpt into a stylist, and i dont know how to write a prompt, is this the place i can get help?

so i want chatgpt to answer as detailed questions as possible, such as color combinatios, advices, etc.

[normal quarry]

try in #prompt-engineering

[dusky heart]

it will be in the docs.

[elfin gulch]

is there a shrine where i can beg for dall-e 3 & gpt-4v access

[craggy flax]

I also want to beg too...

ok

where is the shrine though?

[strange heron]

are you all from american?

[winged moth]

It's virtual.

[dusky heart]

is anyone elses chatgpt being slow

[normal quarry]

I am from Australia

[craggy flax]

Nah i am for da british neighbour hood

[winged moth]

Anyone else still hoping against hope that voice will arrive by the end of the day? 🙂

[strange heron]

that sounds great

[little oak]

How can I best use API for GPT4 for online store and website? Please give best small business advice if you have it lol

[normal quarry]

I have voice and DALL-E 3, still waiting for Vision

[winged moth]

Hey this channel is for chat GPT discussion. You can check out the API channels.

[maiden fractal]

Hi, you can check #1037561385070112779

[winged moth]

I have vision, but I really want voice. So spoiled....

[craggy flax]

I want all of them i am more greedy

[winged moth]

Anyone got voice and feel terribly disappointed with it?

[mint forum]

thank you

[normal quarry]

I have it, I think it is great

[winged moth]

Dang I was hoping it would be terribly disappointing

[prime swallow]

Why? What are you looking for in voice? 😛

[lavish bronze]

its not that great tbh

actually i take that back, it's pretty standard

[normal quarry]

Voice is an easy way to eat up your 50 messages per 3 hours

[spare swallow]

Voice using the GPT-4 ?

[normal quarry]

yes

[winged moth]

Well, my eyesight isn't the greatest so it would be sweet to be able to brainstorm and stuff like that via voice. I was using an Android app for this but it was kind of flaky. Hoping this is better.

[normal quarry]

I have been using Voice on the iOS app and the only complaints I have is that the voices are American sounding and it sometimes struggles with understanding the Australian accent

[prime swallow]

Looking forward to you exploring and experimenting when you can! Hope it meets your needs and you enjoy it. For me, background noise has sometimes been an issue, while listening to me, sometime Whisper turns the sound of running water into Korean speech. Other than that, it's met my needs well.

[winged moth]

That's great to hear. I guess we have to keep in mind that this is still beta so it's only going to get better! Probably

[nova fable]

Its the worst itll ever be

[errant pivot]

Hi @tranquil trench
I've purchase chatGPT on my browser and have it on my andriod mobile. but I can't seem to use the voice feature

[honest jay]

Heyo, they're still rolling out the features! Keep an eye out through the weekend and into early next week 😎

[prime swallow]

Do check settings though, and beta settings. If you have it already, you do need to turn it on there.

[errant pivot]

Oh ok, I thought it would be available to all user on paid subs

[errant pivot]

I don't have it.. the doc announcement mention it would be under "new features"... I've check in beta features

[prime swallow]

I might have misremebered, but hope you get it soon!

[honest jay]

I think you're right, it needs to be enabled in Beta Features in the app once it's rolled out.

[wraith ocean]

Has anyone found that browser or cookies make a difference with getting dalle3 access? I know that was said to be the case with bing chat when it first came out.

[normal quarry]

no, it will just appear in the model dropdown

no need to log out, or clear cookies or anything like that

[wraith ocean]

Okay thank you!

[idle valve]

So the voice feature is not for everybody?

[normal quarry]

it's for Plus users and is being rolled out now

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[idle valve]

I am a plus user but i do not see it in my app

[normal quarry]

it's still rolling out

[idle valve]

What does that mean exactly? That there is a cue, first come first served?

[normal quarry]

it means that the feature is being progressively released to users on a random basis, when it becomes available for you there will be a little headphones icon at the top of the app that you can press to enter voice mode

[idle valve]

Thanks, that clarifies

[wary quiver]

btw, why does it roll out randomly and not all at once ?

[maiden river]

so they can adjust the servers for demand incrementally, and not be overwhelmed all at once.

[honest jay]

Yeah think about how much you use something right when you get it! And imagine everyone getting that thing at the same time 😁 None of us would get to use it!

[wary quiver]

seems legit

[thorny parrot]

I'm a plus user in the US and I have NONE of the new features. I'm so sad!

[normal quarry]

I am a Plus user in Australia, I have Voice and DALL-E 3, not Vision yet.

[thorny parrot]

Gross. I even WORK in AI, it's like I'm being punished.

[hollow kiln]

is there anyone else suffering from "unable to load history" rn

o-oh and it's completely crashed

[sly geode]

Bro got no access to vision and voice yet what is happening?

How long

[deft meteor]

yess, for me as well

[normal quarry]

Be patient, the new features are still rolling out

[hazy pasture]

if i use a vpn in the us will i get the new features ?

[sly geode]

VPN is blocked 😂

[thorny parrot]

I don't wanna be patient. I am watching all the kids with their cool toys and I have use cases out the wazoo and no way to playyyyyy

[sly geode]

Frrrrrr!

[shy mountain]

Is the roll out random or?

[thorny parrot]

I'd be more patient if I even had like, ONE of the new toys.

[hazy pasture]

not for me, i use windscribe and it's working

[sly geode]

💀

[shy mountain]

Wait, i need to be in a specific country to get rolled out?

[hazy pasture]

if you're in UK or Europe you won't get visions capabilities

-yet-

[prime swallow]

Do check settings and beta features, it does have to be turned on to show up.

[spare swallow]

I hate waiting; just roll out the new feature anytime you announce it.

[shy mountain]

Vision is the best feature

[hazy pasture]

they have to scale their system...

[shy mountain]

Everyone can make a website just by drawing it

Show it to gpt

And ask for the code

[hazy pasture]

only for basic prototyping tho

[winged mirage]

Is there any indication the message cap on gpt4 might stop soon?

[feral zinc]

there will always be some limit with plus based on original announcement and recent enterprise ver

[weak isle]

i got dalle 3, vision, and voice. i think its just randomized

[royal remnant]

Hmm

[winged mirage]

You think they might introduce a higher personal tier that isn't capped? Or something unnoticble? so if you're using it for 3 hours straight with many iterations you won't get capped?

[winged mirage]

It is yeah, I got voice but not dalle and vision yet

[feral zinc]

i dont think they will ever allow individuals to have unlimited or non rate limited version because of malicious users. even the current plus version is worth +$1000 in terms of api costs

[winged mirage]

That's a shame! Wonder how much the enterprise plan costs and what the minimum number of users is.

and on an unrelated note, I'd love to see GPT Voice come to the apple watch. more useful than having siri on there haha

[feral zinc]

afaik its currently something like +200 users with a one year minimum commitment

[shrewd tapir]

Hi, do we know if or when multimodal chatgpt will go public?

[feral zinc]

it is already being rolled out

[shrewd tapir]

nope - if you mean dale-3, that's not multimodal

[feral zinc]

i mean vision

however its delayed for eu/uk which get it later

[shrewd tapir]

ah! ok - thankyou - then I have at least hope 🙂

maybe 1-3 weeks

[winged mirage]

so like...$50k minimum

[feral zinc]

probably more like end of this month/early next

[shrewd tapir]

👍 this is good news anyhow

[native turtle]

Is there some information about the vision rollout in Europe or do we still only know that we are not getting it yet?

[feral zinc]

probably at least double that if at annual level

[shrewd tapir]

Radium replied my same question 4 minutes before 🙂

[fallow linden]

Hey Guys, does web browsing work for you ? It suddenly stopped working as of lately.

[normal quarry]

it's working fine for me

[fallow linden]

Where are you from ? maybe location issue ?

[normal quarry]

Australia

[digital prism]

I'm about to do my morning GPT refresh in hopes of vision, wish me luck!

negative 😢

[woven stump]

Sad

[late fractal]

what i mean is, on chat gpt plus, i can actually use askyourpdf plugin to read pdf file, and i can access websites using webpilot. Will that ever be possible to use in API mode? If it is already a possibility, i would love to know how.

[digital prism]

It probably will be, which is why I won't build an app that simple right now.

[normal quarry]

it's not possible with the API, the expectation is that you would implement that in your app yourself

[digital prism]

We're in the churn stage of evolution, when millions of wrong ideas fight for survival, only to be eaten by the largest fish in the end 🙂

[late fractal]

so you would not build an app for what i need because you expect it soon?

[digital prism]

1. It already exists, millions of those pdf reader apps

2. Many similar ideas I wouldn't touch.. like some app to manage your files with AI

[late fractal]

what do you mean by "implementing in your app yourself"? That chat gpt plugins will possibly be integrated to the API?

[late fractal]

well, i mean, i have to use a chat gpt plugin for reading pdf's at the moment, since i will not be able to read a pdf without. right? or am i missing something here

[normal quarry]

no, what I am saying is that the expectation seems to be that if you want plugin style features that you would build those into your app

[digital prism]

Yes, thats the best you can do right now. Why would I build that, when GPT will have full multi-modal at some point, probably soon.

[late fractal]

okay, sorry but i don't get what you mean. Im not building an app, i just want to use the API with plugins such as askyourpdf

[late fractal]

yeah okay

[digital prism]

Plugins are not the same as APIs, 2 different purposes.

[late fractal]

i know.

[digital prism]

You're saying you want to use the API with a plugin.. you'd have to build the plugin to do that.

and many already do that

[feral zinc]

how are you using the api if not via own app?

[late fractal]

but what i mean is. I want to get the API to read a pdf, then access the internet. And that's it. I don't want to build my own plugins for that. I want to use existing plugins such as askyourpdf and webpilot

[digital prism]

The API takes text only right now, end of story. So it's PDF -> Text -> API, at a minimum.

[feral zinc]

some openai devs have said at twitter that its up to devs to implement them on their apps. things may of course change but no likely to come and not been announced

[late fractal]

okay, i mean yes, i have python code with a system prompt, and one user prompt (this prompt should ideally feed the pdf), and a second user prompt (this prompt should make chatgpt access a website and return some values based on waht's on the website)

[feral zinc]

so you have an app where you can add pdf reading libs or ones that access net and scrape the data from html

[late fractal]

yeah, i guess my hope was that i could use plugins in colab with the api. just as you can use plugins (such as askyourpdf and webpilot) in colab with chatgpt plus

[digital prism]

Then there's PLUGINS, which live in the UI chat interface only.. and might or might not call apis, but always do to be useful.

[feral zinc]

plugins are made for end users, i doubt the plugin authors would allow api users to earn money while consuming their server resources

[late fractal]

yes, but i can't do that atm with the api

[feral zinc]

and if you are ready to pay then there are already pdf reading api services or even things like langchain

[feral zinc]

because openai does not have a pdf reader, those are all by 3rd party

[digital prism]

its not hard if you can already make python scripts.. parse the pdf to text, then pass to the API (note: you'll encounter size issues to work with)

[late fractal]

ah, is that all the askyourpdf does`? i thought it was more tricky

[digital prism]

im sure they have other custom prompts, vector db, etc. but at the end of the day yeah, thats all it is.

[late fractal]

yes, my biggest problem atm is the context window for API. its so short compared to the chat gpt web version

[feral zinc]

web has smaller context than api, much smaller

[digital prism]

yeah, you need to learn about vector databases, embedding, and searching vector dbs.. if you want any kind of memory in the app.
Or just use one someone already built lol

[normal quarry]

that's because with the API you're supposed to feed the context to the model in each request

I don't understand why anyone would use the API unless they are developing or deploying an app, using Playground is for testing not general consumer usage

[digital prism]

hax0rz (jk). agree. its for developers lol

[late fractal]

so webpilot is basically just a third-party that is scraping/accessing the internet, and then converting the content of a website into text which is then fed to chat gpt?

[frigid nebula]

i got all the things except VISIONAAA

[digital prism]

same 😢

[frigid nebula]

im craving it

like... hard.

[digital prism]

its the missing piece to a full system

[frigid nebula]

agree

until they introduce the next feature

haaaaaa''

[digital prism]

yes, we are never complete. 🧘‍♂️

[late fractal]

so webpilot is basically just a third-party that is scraping/accessing the internet, and then converting the content of a website into text which is then fed to chat gpt?

[digital prism]

you'd have to read their code to know for sure, but all of these AI powered apps do the same thing at the root.. augmented retrieval and searching.. the magic sauce is their prompts and overall flows etc. like any app i guess.

[late fractal]

but i guess webpilot is not anything with prompting, since its just a tool to access a website

[late fractal]

right?^^

[digital prism]

I haven't been impressed with any AI powered apps, yet 😉

[late fractal]

but when you guys say i could just use a third party. Then yes, i would love to use webpilot as third party, for when im building my own app (using the API). But i can't do that, right?

[digital prism]

Check their terms you agree to when using their app.. cant know beyond that I guess

I believe OpenAI gives you ownership though

[late fractal]

but technically, using webpilot is not possible, since it¨'s only usable through the chatgpt plus

right?

[digital prism]

i don't know what it is, just talking vaguely. is it a plugin?

[feral zinc]

afaik webpilot offers its own api for a cost

[digital prism]

it asks me to sign in before telling me much, but i saw the word gpt plugin

[late fractal]

it lets you prompt gpt with a website, that it then visits live and extracts information from

thereby making chat gpt "live"

[digital prism]

ah, simple python script could do the same.. easy for smaller websites if your entire prompt fits in context.. if not, then what i mentioned earlier with embedding the website first then searching it

just use theirs though, if you dont want to learn abt embeddings, because its hard to avoid

[late fractal]

yeah, but i need their api before i can use it in my app, right :)?

btw, currently i have a problem when generating text with chatgpt API, because the context window very early hits the limit. Any ideas on how to solve that?

[digital prism]

🤷 thats not an openai question. I don't care to read their API docs 😄

[brazen dome]

any other plus members still not have access to the new voice chat or vision features?

nevermind just saw it is by tuesday

[primal python]

I know the image functionality is rolling out to plus users, just wanted to make sure is it coming to PC chatGPT or just the app?

[prime swallow]

Wanna race to be the last to get everything? 😄

[thorny parrot]

*anything. I don't even have DALL-E 3

[prime swallow]

Aww. And you do know about app-only for voice, and beta features to turn it on there, plus in web browser turning on settings-beta settings for Bing-assisted search? To look for the image icon by default GPT-4 and the Dall-E in the GPT-4 drop downs? Everything is accessed its own way....

[normal quarry]

I just noticed, looking at my history, that voice actually seems to use GPT-3.5, unless it's being labelled wrong on the web app

[thorny parrot]

Yep, I check all the feature toggles and drop downs every day. No voice in my app, no vision or image creation in my desktop.

[prime swallow]

Cheering you on! Here's to soon for you!

[prime swallow]

For me, voice works with either 3.5 or 4, I can select at the top of a new conversation which to use. It is default 4, of course.

[normal quarry]

oh cool

[digital prism]

use less text.. chunk things up

abstractions work wonders too, if you can abstract to less text but keep the original meaning / details

also, ask GPT4 to help craft your prompts if you aren't.. its an expert

[merry wagon]

The Bing app has vision, midjourney, gpt4, voice. The official OpenAI app has none of it for me. Why do i pay for this?

[dense halo]

well wait until it gives to everyone

[hybrid oar]

I'm waiting for this Monday to get my GPT-4V. That's when OpenAi's "handing out over 2 weeks" finishes

[spare swallow]

you can not compare the ChatGPT with Bing. For me Bing is very very simplified version of chatGPT

[spare swallow]

I expected to get them today and play with them during the weekend, so sad!

Anyone had a chance to get them today?

[hybrid oar]

All we can do is wait. But we'll get the new feature :')

[merry wagon]

It is really not simplified if it has all the features we have been waiting.

[feral zinc]

did you actually try to use it for good? it has chat message limit and can end the chat at any point, thread limit, image gen is based on few credits per day and then its hours of waiting on top of that the images are small res and square

i use it daily but its kinda like free/lite version of chatgpt plus

[merry wagon]

So? The official App has none of this.

[feral zinc]

bunch of people already have the new features

[spare swallow]

For me nothing like Chatgpt

[safe tulip]

⬆️

[safe tulip]

to me, Bing has its advantages and disadvantages... it's similar to using ChatGPT4 + Browsing feat : I'm sometimes FORCED to disable browsing because I get more accurate results by letting GPT only, ignoring all the crap coming from the Internet

[wooden rose]

for gpt-4, if i use up all my 50 prompts, it says you can ask again in x amount of time. when that time arrives, are you immediately given another 50 questions or do they just trickle thru?

[normal quarry]

it's 50 messages per 3 hours in a rolling window

[wooden rose]

ok so it's 50 messages for whatever the last 3 hours were?

[dense halo]

Whats the difference between the free and paid version of Chat GPT?

[normal quarry]

Free gives you ChatGPT GPT-3.5
Plus gives you ChatGPT GPT-3.5 GPT-4 Advanced Data Analysis, Browse with Bing, DALL-E 3 (soon), Voice, Vision (rolling out now)

[keen echo]

How soon are we able to start using DALL-E 3 is there any good estimates?

[normal quarry]

I have it now, the rollout is October - ish

[winged moth]

Yes I was hoping to get access to the voice today too. 😦 It's too bad. Well I guess they're still a little more time. When I got the vision thing a few days ago it was in the early evening I think.

[keen echo]

Will you try a prompt for me? I've had it saved from over a year ago and I'm curious how well it can engineer this one since its kinda obscure (I am a paid subscriber of GPT+ since the beginning!)

[manic wave]

I can try dalle3/chatgpt if you want

[keen echo]

first optimize the prompt itself "Waluigi with a samurai sword confronts the emperor of Japan on horseback wit a background of cherry bossoms and an erupting volcano"

Right like this is a pretty good test

[manic wave]

PM me with the prompt if you want to get the image

[spice star]

that would be blocked by the filter, waluigi is nintendo IP

[keen echo]

Darn it

So all IP will get filtered out more or less

I guess I am reading that now

[manic wave]

It wasnt blocked: "A tall, lanky character reminiscent of Waluigi stands confidently wielding a samurai sword. Opposite him, a regal figure representing the emperor of Japan is mounted on a majestic horse, prepared for the confrontation. The scene is set against a breathtaking backdrop of cherry blossoms in full bloom, adding a touch of tranquility to the intense standoff. In the distance, an imposing volcano erupts, sending plumes of smoke and ash into the sky, further intensifying the atmosphere."

The fictional character Waluigi, wielding a samurai sword, stands determinedly facing a public figure on horseback, who represents the emperor of a historical Japan. Behind them, cherry blossoms are in full bloom, painting the scene with shades of pink and white. In the distance, a towering volcano erupts, spewing smoke and ash into the sky, adding a dramatic backdrop to the intense confrontation.

[crude slate]

That’s so odd

I tried continuing an old text adventure chat

But it seems to just fail on the prompt because it didn’t have access to old context

How?

Like the whole chat is still there but the AI is just incapable of continuing it

[digital prism]

maybe it got lobotomized

a shell of your former conversation

[winged moth]

It's always limited by the number of tokens isn't it? Like GPT 4 is 8K at this point? Are you on 4?

[spare swallow]

Yes, for me was early evening around 5:30 pm.

[winged moth]

So we still have hope for today. 🙂

[crude slate]

I went back to a 3.5

[eternal rock]

`` Server Tip: ``

Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!

[crude slate]

I suspect it’s the overwhelming amount of filters that got implemented on it

That’s why people are seeing quality decline over time

Sure they are to prevent bad stuff from being generated but I don’t think it’s worth the quality slip

[digital prism]

its changed, and hates anything resembling copyright.. i wouldnt say quality is down though. have you seen some of the knockoffs?

[crude slate]

The default response is definitely a lot shorter

For a text adventure

[winged moth]

Yeah I haven't noticed a declining quality either. But it may depend on what your asking it

[digital prism]

I always have my super verbose expert personality custom instructions on too, probably keeps me floating above the average

[frigid nebula]

which is when for u?

sorry i mean.. where are you located hahaha

[spare swallow]

Vision

[winged moth]

Care to share? I'm using a variation on Sam Altman's custom instructions which can get a bit terse at times. 🙂

[digital prism]

# Assistant Response Complexity
**Note**: I may control the verbosity (detail level) of your response by prefixing a message with `V=[0–5]`(default V=3), on a scale where `V=0` means terse and concise, and `V=5` means most verbose and comprehensive 

# Primary Assistant Guidance
Your goal is to provide in-depth, expert, and accurate analysis and opinions across all fields of study. Let's go step-by-step:

1. Is my question (wrapped in parentheses)? If yes, skip to step 6
2. Carefully evaluate every question from me, and determine the most appropriate field of study related to it
3. Determine the occupation of the expert that would give the best answer
4. Adopt the role of that expert and respond to my question utilizing the experience, vocabulary, knowledge and understanding of that expert's field of study
5. Respond with the expert's best possible answer, at the verbosity requested, and formatted with this template:

"""
**Expert**: [your assumed expert role]
**Objective**: [single concise sentence describing your current objective]
**Assumptions**: [your assumptions about my question, intent, and context] 

[your response]
"""

6. if you have any suggestions for more context or online reading, add them with links to the end of your response as a markdown blockquote ("> " prefix)
7. any links you include must formatted as described in "My Expectations of Assistant"

**Remember: (questions in parentheses) don't use an expert**

[frigid nebula]

I think just being a balance of kind but definite with it? like a nice lesson for life. state what you need! but dont be a dick! haha ?

[digital prism]

I've found the assumptions and objectives to be very helpful in course correcting

[frigid nebula]

ohhhh i like this

will try right now

[digital prism]

let me know! i didn't make it btw, copied off reddit long ago

[frigid nebula]

why does it say dont use an expert i wont? ive been tellling it its an expert and it works better than my half baked prompts

ive also been getting my prompts rewritten by it before i put them through

by getting it to assess and refine my prompts as 'prompt expert'

as a **

[digital prism]

yes, everybody should be leaning heavy on GPT for prompt engineering

its a virtuous cycle

[winged moth]

Thanks. I wish there was an easy way to have multiple custom instructions on my phone.

[frigid nebula]

sooo virtuous

yeah interface has a lot of room to grow

but websites like flowgpt are saving that

[winged moth]

Yeah can you explain that last bit?

[frigid nebula]

Chotes pre instruct said this at the end

**Remember: (questions in parentheses) don't use an expert**

[digital prism]

I have no idea why that reverse psychology works

[frigid nebula]

yeah baffles me...

[digital prism]

maybe its dont USE one, BE one

[frigid nebula]

wait i know. ill ask it itself mwahah

[digital prism]

who knows lol

[frigid nebula]

TRUE

[winged moth]

Good idea, let us know?

[frigid nebula]

Expert: Cognitive Scientist specializing in Human-AI Interaction
Objective: To clarify and explain the rationale behind the guideline of excluding expert mode for questions wrapped in parentheses.
Assumptions: You are questioning the benefit and underlying reason for such a guideline, given that it appears counterintuitive. You may assume that some users want rapid, direct answers without the full expert-style exposition.

The guideline, "Remember: (questions in parentheses) don't use an expert", may seem counterintuitive at first, especially if the goal is to get in-depth and authoritative answers. However, this guideline can serve a few specific purposes:

Quick Access to Information: While expert-mode offers a detailed exposition, not all users may want such a comprehensive response every time. By wrapping a question in parentheses, the user is signaling the AI to bypass the more verbose answer style and deliver a direct response.

Cognitive Load and Efficiency: Not every question requires a deep-dive analysis. Sometimes, users may seek a brief answer without wanting to read through a detailed explanation, particularly if they're in a hurry or only need a quick fact-check.

User Customization and Flexibility: Providing a mechanism for users to control the output verbosity offers them a tailored experience. By allowing users to toggle between standard and expert mode based on their needs, they can customize the AI's interaction to better serve their immediate requirements.

Minimizing Redundancy: If a user is asking a series of questions and doesn't wish to see the expert format each time (which may reiterate some points or follow a template), they can utilize the parentheses approach to cut straight to the answer.

Design for Exceptions: As AI gets integrated more deeply into workflows, there can be scenarios where a user understands the typical mode of operation (e.g., expert mode) but occasionally requires an exception. The parentheses guideline acts as a quick switch, facilitating this exception without making the user go through a more cumbersome process.

To summarize, while the expert mode provides valuable in-depth analysis, there are scenarios where users might prefer directness and brevity. The parentheses mechanism serves as a shortcut for those occasions, giving users a tool to effectively communicate their desired response style to the AI.

For further reading on user experience (UX) design and the importance of user customization, you might want to explore Don Norman's "The Design of Everyday Things". It's a seminal work in the UX field and touches upon the significance of designing systems that cater to user needs.```

i guess?

Ohhhhhh

wait i see. the pre instruct is specifying questions in parentheses.

[winged moth]

Huh

[frigid nebula]

to not be approached as expert

[solar herald]

Pity that following question in ChatGPT is not giving guidance on the rollout phase for specific user
“When I will get access to Dall-E 3?”

[frigid nebula]

parentheses around your question are basically a shortcut out of the pre instruct

[winged moth]

It's almost 5:30 people! Get ready!

[frigid nebula]

😂

what time zone mate??

7:45am here

[solar herald]

Not true. 22:45 here

[winged moth]

Oh, I think Eastern in the USA. I'm not even sure where open AI is. Maybe California?

[frigid nebula]

ahhh ye

so end of business day is the phase rollout?

interesting.. is that consistent? id have assumed a random trickle at all hours

is this just hype... mr KB????

😢

[winged moth]

Yeah that expert mode could get annoying We just want a simple answer. I don't know I'll have to try it out.

[normal quarry]

roll out finishes on Tuesday

[frigid nebula]

Thanks Rob

[winged moth]

Well I'm hoping. It happened one time anyway. 🙂

[frigid nebula]

Ive waited my whole life for this.. i guess could wait even a few more weeks

[winged moth]

😂

[frigid nebula]

get ready for some mindblowing feature from another company to be announced within days of the end of this rollout

this gravy train aint slowing down

[winged moth]

Hell yeah let's keep this buzz going

[toxic canyon]

do plugins work with the new voice chat thing on phone?

[normal quarry]

no

[toxic canyon]

ah, sad

hope they someday do

[vagrant crest]

is voice chat still rolling out i got vision but no voice

i would talk to it all day :D

[toxic canyon]

oh, I got voice but now vision XD

[frigid nebula]

i got voice but no vision.. going BLIND over here! 😂

[toxic canyon]

I'd love vision too :D

[frigid nebula]

tbh i took the voice for granted..

i prefer typing. but everyone i show voice to is freaked out.. i thought voice detec and synth was simple.

[toxic canyon]

it doesn't sometimes understand me because of my "not english" accent

[vagrant crest]

does it understand other languages by the way?

[toxic canyon]

yes I spoke finnish to it

quite ok

[vagrant crest]

oh god so good my parents dont know english i would like them to try it with their mother tongue

[toxic canyon]

oh haha

[calm imp]

Speaks Icelandic even. Weird accent but works fine.

[vagrant crest]

can it understand two languages in the same conversation?

or maybe in one sentence i guess it doesnt work like that

[calm imp]

Yes. I was chatting in an English as usual once and one message was suddenly interpreted as Icelandic

Probably not within the same message though