gpt-models

[atomic rain]

hooray i got the plugins

[robust light]

Yay!!

[atomic rain]

What do you recommend putting in?

[tardy coral]

Ok, guess I gotta be patient

[mental mural]

Yeah, it's crazy. I literally just started testing stuff out and since I lost messages from asking plugins how to do stuff and then it still failed, I lost like 3-4 messages just like that lol

[remote mortar]

linkreader 😎

[vivid bluff]

I think you need to try most of the plugin feature in brain 💀

[mental mural]

Yes! Try login in and out or something too. I don't think it actually matters, but why not!

[mental mural]

I need chat-gpt because I don't have a brain 😄

[inner trail]

You have a brain, you just don't know how to use it

[mental mural]

I have a brain, but I lost my API key 😦

[vivid bluff]

Sad, that will be tough testing both OpenAI and ChatGPt 🤣

[atomic rain]

thx

[dry root]

I'm confused. Linkreader plug-in claims it can read a pdf or word doc but I have tried various ways to serve it a url and it fails everytime. What is the best way to serve it a url for a document? Pdf or otherwise

[vivid bluff]

Send as a file link url

With extension .pdf

[bleak lark]

@vivid bluff can you check your DM? thank you

[dry root]

How should I do that? All the platforms im trying to send from only give me the option to send a link

It wouldn't read an adobe acrobat link

Or word.

Wouldn't read a direct link from the document or a link from onedrive or Dropbox

It's a link reader that says it can read pdf but doesn't

[weary rampart]

Has anyone done anything fun with code interpreter? I’ve been trying to think of some more ways to use it to mess with images and audio.

[odd copper]

Perhaps you could spin up your own python server and host the files you work with on that. Then just feed path to your server

[mental mural]

Would also like to know how. Because I had the exact same issues

Imagine having 100 messages every 3 hours like pro users had back in April.

[atomic rain]

Hmmm, I installed the plugins but I don't see the difference, maybe I need to set a specific prompt? Or not to do everything from the phone

[vivid bluff]

I don't trust this since I know that's harder than reading the file link directly

[vivid bluff]

I missed that

[dry root]

That's above my pay grade. And the plug-in literally says it will read a pdf link

[atomic rain]

It's just that with browsing I get to write (use browsing). What about plugins?

[dry root]

Sorry can you treat me like I'm 7 and tell me how to generate the file link?

[wraith matrix]

I used less than 30 every 3 hours even when I was asking what I thought to be very frequent questions

[dry root]

Is it deferent than what I see in the share button?

[mental mural]

Me too...
Also, what if it's a local file?

[mental mural]

Ok? Well, I am about to be unblocked after 30 minutes of waiting. Have you tested out new plugins?

[atomic rain]

What year is today?

ChatGPT
Used Wolfram
2023

But he does not want to look for more difficult questions):

[wraith matrix]

I’ve had access to plugins for a while

[vivid bluff]

I mean just download the file and upload to discord, then get the link

[wraith matrix]

plug-ins with gpt4 are really buggy, they were better with 3.5

[mental mural]

Why doesn't OpenAI let us play around with 3.5 and plugins then? Just so that we can at least try them out instead of being limited to this

[dreamy rover]

ey dude, message got deleted, but I found out how to upload them to chatgpt without finding a link (if you didn't already figure this out). there's an askyourpdf upload website and you can just upload there, it will give you a document id which you can then paste into chatgpt

[wraith matrix]

They allowed you to previously, I don’t even have them anymore

I only see gpt4 browsing and plugins

[mental mural]

Dang. I have plugins but not browsing on gpt-4

Soo. Anyone who has used Noteable with gpt4? Since there is no links to any docs or anything...

[gentle ermine]

Where can I see some plugins and browser use cases? I got overwhelmed with the update and had no idea how to make used of it yet.

[atomic rain]

(Use plugins or browsing)
Universal request XD

[dry root]

That does not work either. Uploaded to discord, opened in browser, copied .pdf url but no dice

[mental mural]

Yeah + there's not a lot of room for messing around with the 25 messages cap

Apparently not 😦

[normal quest]

yeah literally just opened my eyes and saw somebody asked it before me

[wraith matrix]

Uhh well they both just basically allow for more accurate results in specific tasks

So for example web browsing will give you more accurate results in information beyond September 2021

Wolfram alpha will give you more accurate math output

[vivid bluff]

I just tested it like 30mins ago and it works just fine

Plugins with AskYourPDF enabled

[sharp steeple]

OK finally I can test out that plugin

[wraith matrix]

pdf support is so dumb fr just copy the text 😭

All those plugins do is scrape a pdf for text and then use that text as input

you can do that manually in 5 seconds, less time than to activate the plugin and upload a pdf

[wind urchin]

How do I use the plugin?

[wild flint]

header and footer text

[exotic merlin]

no they don't

[wraith matrix]

Yes, yes they do

You can look at their source code

[exotic merlin]

no, no they don't

they search the text and then use it as input

[dreamy rover]

im now just noticing this

[wanton star]

I understand there are only a few sites available where chatgpt can take information from the internet?

[wraith matrix]

That’s literally what I just said

[exotic merlin]

it's not

you said it's like copying the text in

[wraith matrix]

“They scrape text and use it as input”

[atomic rain]

Why is it difficult for him to write a "slash command" in discord.py even with plugins?)

[serene cipher]

training data is outdated

[exotic merlin]

you can't copy 500 pages of text in manually

[vivid bluff]

Writing a bot is harder than he upload a PDF file 💀

[atomic rain]

[vivid bluff]

AskYourPDF is just a pdf text extractor with search function

[eternal marsh]

some can help me? for search actual stuffs in internet i use plugin webpilot and keymate? thanks

[wanton star]

Because you are gamely zaebal finland uzat, uzay ru server potomytho ping menishe budet!

[atomic rain]

Good luck everyone will get all beta features and good night

[sharp steeple]

good night

[atomic rain]

[wanton star]

ya seriezno ping ot 70

[vivid bluff]

Please tell OpenAI to give me the dam code interpreter and plugin developer (tools3_dev) feature

[atomic rain]

To begin with, this is not the topic of the channel, but we will end up with the fact that no one uses the "RU" server

[atomic rain]

Are they not in beta? 😦

[stray crescent]

Anyone know if GPT 4 is gonna be free soon

[vivid bluff]

Still in waitlist 💀

[stray crescent]

I am too and I own a company

[mental mural]

Serioouuusllyyyyy

[slow kite]

All I want tbh

[vivid bluff]

Are you asking gpt4xxxe

[stray crescent]

Maybe

[mental mural]

Now I can't even set the default project on my Noteable? Ugh this is soooo bad

I only have 25 messages, I can't afford this kind of stuff kek

[vivid bluff]

There's lots of feature hasn't enable for normal user

[atomic rain]

Ahhh

[vivid bluff]

The hidden UI looks so fxxking nice

[stray crescent]

What hidden UI

[vivid bluff]

I'm using it, and the sidebar can be toggle

[ember crystal]

Interesting, I only have web browsing. No code interpreter, no plugins.

[stray crescent]

HOW

How do you get code interpreter and the plugins and such

[vivid bluff]

DM you

[vivid bluff]

I want, but I can't

[slow kite]

All I have are the plugins 💀

[dreamy rover]

plugins rollout, code interpreter is alpha

[wind urchin]

any singles here

[dreamy rover]

plugins are op, I don't even care that I didn't get browsing

[stray crescent]

How do you get access to alpha

[ember crystal]

browsing is good but quite slow

[dreamy rover]

sign up for it or it's closed right now

[sharp steeple]

@vivid bluff @late willow yup AskYourPDF worked for me

[vivid bluff]

I get browsing but not likely to be usable working

[vivid bluff]

Good

[stray crescent]

Anyone have an account that has alpha?

[grave prairie]

What plugs are you using and how did they work out?

[atomic rain]

Can you send a link to it? (Pm)

Pls

[eternal marsh]

true is very good but have some bugs

[vivid bluff]

Dude they need to ask OpenAI if you can develop localhost plugin or not 💀
I almost can develop a local plugin before I get access

[vivid bluff]

What link?

[atomic rain]

"code interpreter"

[vivid bluff]

I didn't get it

[atomic rain]

😦

[vivid bluff]

I hope I can get all the hidden features that's in ChatGPT tho

[jaunty raft]

im really new to chatgpt can anyone help me learn how to use it?

[mental mural]

Ask ChatGPT to teach you how to use it

[atomic rain]

Code interpreter
Alpha

Alpha.....

[jaunty raft]

how do i get the most out of it by using plugins and such

[atomic rain]

[mental mural]

Hoooolyyyy

[vivid bluff]

💀 Nice

[mental mural]

I just asked gpt to set a notebook as my default. It refused. Asked it to create one, got this...
It appears that you don't have a default project set in Noteable. Please follow these steps:

Go to Noteable
Create a new project or select an existing one
Set it as your default project
Once you've done that, let me know and we can proceed with creating the notebook.

[spiral plaza]

so I was using gpt-4 but accidentally clicked to button after you reach the limit to use gpt-3, will I be able to make that chat gpt-4 again once the time resets?

[mental mural]

Just ticks me off. If I am this limited in messsages, then those messages better work...

[wanton star]

chatgpt is a very strange experimental function which gives the possibility to take information from the internet. it seems to me to be very crude. it takes information from several sites only very delicately.

[dreamy rover]

no

[odd copper]

For example install scholar plugin and ask it for recent papers in a field you are interested, once you have the result, ask it to summarise a paper from that list in whatever format you prefer. I mean the possibilities are endless with plugins. I guess you can feed the output you then have into another plugin to do something useful

[dry root]

Ok that did work with that plug in. Do you know, does reading long pdf's suck up the token limit?

[timid cairn]

screams

[sand hull]

Which?

[vivid bluff]

It's in API side (A.K.A.) AskYourPDF server side, doesn't use any of the token

[jaunty raft]

thank you

[frozen spire]

Why don't I have access to the plugins if I am a Plus user, I only have Web Browsing.

[dry root]

Ooooohhhh snap

[timid cairn]

I am full stop going to rage soon.

[sweet thistle]

Hey there! Both Plugins and Browsing will be available to all Plus users over the course of next week!

They're technically in seperate groups and are still being rolled out to all Plus users.

[vivid bluff]

#gpt-models message

[odd copper]

👍

[vivid bluff]

Cool, but did you report https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1108105455110213682 ?

[sand hull]

I've got code interpreter, but idk what you're referring to with the 2nd one. Do you mean just the plugin development abilities?

[dry root]

@vivid bluff so hypothetically I could feed it a pdf with a complex set of instructions for a multi-step prompt and it could follow it without taking up any tokens?

[frozen spire]

why in chatgpt the 3.5 model is model=text-davinci-002-render-sha, shouldn't it be text-davinci-003?

[vivid bluff]

Yea I want developer access so that I can start testing plugin

[sand hull]

Ah gotcha. You applied?

[vivid bluff]

Yes, the ChatGPT is just like a query generator for the API

[vivid bluff]

Yea, no response yet.

[sand hull]

How many times?

[frozen spire]

How do I get the ChatGPT API, not from GPT3.5, but from chatgpt

[sand hull]

I applied thrice. Once for plugins, once for browsing and once for code interpreter.

They're 3 seperate groups.

[vivid bluff]

Just 1, is that better for every day to apply?

[sand hull]

You mean gpt-3.5-turbo or the exact same system prompt and features as ChatGPT?

[open umbra]

Can gpt4 edit an image if you upload on it?

[vivid bluff]

No image function

[sand hull]

Applying every day is kinda crazy. But applying for each group would be fair (code interpreter and plugin Dev)

[open umbra]

As in they have not allowed for public to upload image?

[frozen spire]

the second option

[vivid bluff]

If that feature is out, I'm doooooomed

[open umbra]

Last i read about gpt4 was you could upload image and it will tell you about it

I don't know if image upload feature is available for public or not

[vivid bluff]

Same but they say this feature still need to develop

[tiny jacinth]

can you dm me about it too ?

[frozen spire]

so @sand hull

[mental mural]

@vivid bluff gief hidden UI plz

[sand hull]

Not possible.

[frozen spire]

and the first option @sand hull

[vivid bluff]

You're the last one, other please ask them

[sudden pebble]

Is server down for the api

[vivid bluff]

https://status.openai.com/

[sudden pebble]

is that a yes or no

[sand hull]

https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/chat

[sand hull]

That's a no.

[vivid bluff]

Yes, the OpenAI API is currently operational.
^ ChatGPT Response with browsing

[frozen spire]

it tells me on playground that you have reached your limit of use

[sudden pebble]

Y’all don’t have plugins still? Chile

[fossil hornet]

Hey guys, what are the best plugins and use cases so far?

[sudden pebble]

Expedia plug-in booked me to Hawaii next week for 4 days for $300

[vivid bluff]

Who's paying

OpenAI? 🤣

[lucid kestrel]

Still havent gotten access to plugins despite paying for plus smh

[slate dragon]

My "web browsing" keeps thinking 🙄

[vivid bluff]

https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1108105455110213682

[sudden pebble]

Me till I use DoNotPay to get half my money back

[inner trail]

Same, only web browsing

[lucid kestrel]

I dont even have that lol

[half iris]

guys, I got web browsing today. Does anyone know is it for gpt4 or gpt3.5? Am I wasting my tokens when browsing? They put web browsing in same menu with gpt4 and gpt4 plugins

[vivid bluff]

GPT 4

[sudden pebble]

It’s all gpt-4

So using plugins once = using that 25 message threshold

[sand hull]

Soo.... pay

[half iris]

so web browsing is gpt4 also, and im using 25 message threshold?

[sudden pebble]

Mhm

[half iris]

when browsing

[frozen spire]

Wait, can I lose tokens when talking to GPT4?

[sudden pebble]

Yup

[sudden rampart]

i've got ccess to the plugins, but how do i get the openai web search to work? there's nothing in the plugin list and it doesn't search the web when i try to do it with plain gpt-4 (as opposed to the plugin version)

[inner trail]

Thats correct

[sudden pebble]

Web browsing is a beta and it’s not very stable. Remember it’s a beta.

It sucks and is just flashy don’t waste your messages on it unless it’s actually necessary if you generally go over your cap

[half iris]

will we have web browsing for gpt 3.5 too?

[sudden pebble]

No

[inner trail]

No

[half iris]

i mean it would be much more useful because of limited messages

[sudden pebble]

Ya that’s how they get you

[earnest creek]

When will GPT-4 come to normal ChatGPT users?

[frozen spire]

Never

[slate dragon]

Soom

[earnest creek]

Col.

[sudden pebble]

No it won’t

[earnest creek]

it wont?

[weary patio]

When GPT5 comes out for plus users

[sudden pebble]

Not till the next update

No there will be a gpt 4.5

[earnest creek]

so ur telling me i have to pay for a subscription to use gpt-4 forever?

[sudden pebble]

Not forever

[earnest creek]

ok

[sudden pebble]

Just for now

[warm elk]

jesus the new gpt is way smarter but omg. i keeps adding comments to my script " rest of the script remains the same" even it doesnt 😄

[earnest creek]

cool

[inner trail]

You pay a monthly basis for GPT-4

[weary patio]

Yes, you will have to pay to always get the better version

[earnest creek]

bro that sucks

[sudden pebble]

only till there’s the next better version

[trim quest]

How can I use images as input as using anything like imgbb doesn’t work.

[sudden pebble]

Not functional yet I heard

[trim quest]

Odd I heard a lot about it. Is there a plugin that you may know of that can do that for me?

[weary patio]

And GPT4 is way better than GPT3.5, not even comparable

[dreamy rover]

there's none

[weary patio]

GPT 3.5 is like GPT4's stupid drunk cousin

[dreamy rover]

true

haven't actually used it in like a month

[weary patio]

I only use it to get a good laugh at the comparison

[bleak lark]

how the browsing work i don't get it

[weary patio]

GPT4 inspires me to be a better speaker

As a person

[kindred ore]

chat gpt is amazing

[storm yew]

Gpt delivered my baby

[vestal oyster]

why is GPT 4 is considerably slower and GPT 3.5 ?

[weary patio]

Because it has more time to process information

[finite badger]

GPT 4 cured my cancer

[willow pewter]

if chatgpt is just a perfect prediction machine, how it feels it is actually thinking or understanding context?

I don't really get it, if it only was based on predicting the next word, I doubt it would understand many things. It could even get it wrong. What about the system message. or date or many other things? what about the instructions?

[warm elk]

paste in a link - give a task

[storm yew]

GPT 4 cooked me a perfect nasi goreng with only flour and water

[weary patio]

Why are you asking here when you could just ask chat gpt?

[warm elk]

@bleak lark i just told it to search web about best crypto 2023

its searching now..

Searched: “Best performing cryptocurrencies 2023”
Clicked on:
Favicon
Reading content
Searched: “Bitcoin price prediction 2023”
Reading content
Searched: “Ethereum price prediction 2023”

[weary patio]

Its best bro

Best

[storm yew]

Yeah? Well I told it to search for the biggest diamond in Africa, and it’s literally in the mines as we speak

[errant trail]

I installed the Upskillr app. Has anyone used this yet? I tried to use it today and it said I reached the API rate limit, but I'm not sure how that's possible as I just downloaded it and tried to use it.

[limber garnet]

how it feels it is actually thinking or understanding context?
OpenAI put a lot of resources into training it with tons of examples. It doesn't do any thinking of its own. All it does is blend in with the examples, which just so happens to make it really good at answering questions
I don't really get it, if it only was based on predicting the next word, I doubt it would understand many things. It could even get it wrong.
It gets a lot of stuff wrong, and confidently too. It routinely makes glaring reasoning errors and even says stuff that is very obviously false
What about the system message.
The system message and other information is just part of the input
what about the instructions?
It's built to only predict its own response. Earlier versions of ChatGPT liked to hallucinate the user's follow up messages a lot more

[warm elk]

xDDD

[bleak lark]

thank you

[wraith ginkgo]

Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages. OpenAI staff will never DM you for any transactions.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[warm elk]

np mate

[bleak sedge]

What are some of the best plugins

[harsh brook]

Create a "Huayuan" logo

[warm star]

My prompt was deleted - never had that happen before. Is this new?

[weary patio]

GPT4 is the new God

[willow pewter]

What about a completely made up thing, like if you start speaking in a language that has never been spoken before and "instruct" gpt to use it, it understands how to do it perfectly.

[sullen wren]

I’m new to Ai but couldn’t they add gpt 4 and 3.5 to get gpt 7.5?? Or

[weary patio]

Yeah

[fair iron]

you know too much...

[uneven herald]

You innocent thing

[sullen wren]

Ai almost always transcends what experts thought was the limit when it reaches mastery. Alpha go or alpha mind or whatever and its domination in chess was a good@example

[sullen wren]

Wdym

Am I wrong

[pulsar hill]

3+3,5+4=10,5

[warm star]

This is so frustrating - never had it delete the prompt before

[weary patio]

When in doubt, ask ChatGPT

[stray jacinth]

Does the chat gpt 4 beta feature of searching online affect its accuracy in answering questions?

[sullen wren]

I mean that’s how they made gpt 3 right

[weary patio]

I don't know why people come here to ask questions about AI when you could just ask ChatGPT

[sullen wren]

Combining 1 and 2

[sullen wren]

Why do people ask Ai about Ai when they can just ask Ai to ask Ai about

Nvm

[weary patio]

I'm losing brain cells...

[sullen wren]

I already hit a asymptote of 2 brain cells I think

[brittle notch]

What's the topic all about?

[sullen wren]

What topic

The only topic is that there’s no topic

[brittle notch]

I thought you'll was having a conversation

[sullen wren]

Idk

I’m an Ai and y’all probably are too

People don’t realize

[brittle notch]

I'm not

[sullen wren]

87% of discord users are AI

[uneven herald]

i mean... I get it. But no...
We're not an AI.

[brittle notch]

Yeah i can leave with that ratings

[sullen wren]

Proof is that that’s not a real statistic and we know that Ai makes stuff up

[late willow]

YOO W, thanks G

[brittle notch]

????? 🤔

[sullen wren]

Idk I’m too high unless that violates the server rules in which case i still am I just wouldn’t say it

[stray jacinth]

Does the chat gpt 4 beta feature of searching online affect its accuracy in answering questions?

[brittle notch]

That's another reason i had to use my picture

[uneven herald]

but about GPT 2 and GPT 1 . No it wasn't like you said.

You can summariy like that, but it wasn't like that.
It involves refinement , and fixing bugs and making more adjustment and trainning and making it better.

[sullen wren]

Oh

Yeah chatgpt 1 refined 2

[weary patio]

I wouldn't think so. I think the browsing improves upon its base database

[sullen wren]

The OpenAI people just promoted gpt 1 to make 2 better

[brittle notch]

Exactly 🙂

[ebon pollen]

🥸

[weary patio]

I'm glad we have ChatGPT. Now it can finally make people smarter

[toxic drift]

Does the "Continue Generating" feature count towards your 25 prompts?

[wind urchin]

Why do you say that?

[weary patio]

Because it's true isn't it?

[ebon pollen]

So many new technologies have failed to make people smarter…

[wind urchin]

There's a continue generating feature?

[ancient yarrow]

I got access to plugins, and tested out few responses with help of webpilot and wolfram plugins.
One interesting thing I found is GPT managed to attach an image from a website by using Wolfram.
I also managed to load the image by the webpilot, by sort of thumbnail of the wikipedia page.
Are there other workarounds to attach image to chatroom like these? Or, am I missing the plugin that allows directing image search & attachment?

[wind urchin]

In a sense, but it may also make people dumber in the sense that google maps made people worse at navigation

[sullen wren]

Smarter

[weary patio]

Did those technologies involve using language in an easier context to communicate insightful information?

[sullen wren]

Outsourcing your thinking is the opposite

Which is what most people are doing

Especially in academics

[wind urchin]

But overall, I'm all for becoming one with the tech

[ornate galleon]

b/c when I do I get as an AI langague I don't know anything after Sept 2021.

[sullen wren]

That’s cause the data stopped then bro that’s normal

[viral basalt]

GPT Browsing Search is broken right?
I only get
"I apologize for the inconvenience, but it seems there is still an issue with accessing the URL "

[toxic drift]

It's with the rollout of features over the past week.

[ornate galleon]

yeah I get that... but that's why I just came here, becuase I tried asking it about the plugsin but got that

[wind urchin]

We have almost always integrated tool use into our life as a species to the point where it becomes a part of us. Like we're doing right now.

[wind urchin]

nice

[weary patio]

Worse at navigation? Or better for people who don't know how to navigate at all?

[sullen wren]

We integrate shortcuts without being able@to@stop it as a species

This leads to spirals of instant gratification

And less quality of life overall

[wind urchin]

It made us worse at navigation but a lot better with the integration of the tool

[sullen wren]

In general. Like I love@chatGPT a lot but I can’t be so selfish as to act like it’s not the first in a generation of very scary powerful technology

[wind urchin]

Why lesser quality of life?

[weary patio]

No it definitely did not make us worse. It made us better. You can't get worse at navigation by using a GPS. That just doesn't make sense.

[sullen wren]

Pursuit of Instant gratification leads to lower quality of@life in almost all situations

[wheat wraith]

is gpt4 free

[wind urchin]

No, you get worse at navigation but the GPS makes up for it.

[frank shell]

Webbrowsing is very glitchy if you ask to find recent articles about for example science anyone else tried webbrowsing yet?

[sullen wren]

Because instant gratification is typically chosen over a better, long term behavior that may be hard in the moment but is good overall

[wind urchin]

But it has been like that since the beginning - we built all our tools to make our lives as easy as possible.

[sullen wren]

Instant gratification destroys your reward pathways

[uneven herald]

i wonder if with the help of API GPT-4 and 3.5 are better than before...
Like 1 or 2 months ago

[sullen wren]

I mean im not saying that this isn’t the natural progression

[north osprey]

How to use gpt 4 for working Better with numbers. So many times I have seen gpt spitting wrong analysis even for plain numbers. It even gets which number is the largest in an ascending or descending series.

[sullen wren]

But that certainly doesn’t mean it’s optimal haha

[sullen wren]

Plug-ins

[weary patio]

After years of the GPS teaching me the different ways to use to the roads, I got worse at navigating? Is that what you're telling me?

[wind urchin]

we just need to invent tech to rebuild them

[wind urchin]

I wasn't referring to you specifically, but on average, people rely on GPS to get them places instead of memorizing and/or using maps

[sullen wren]

Well thats a massive field@already, treatment of Parkinson’s and other neurological diseases are primarily focused on restoring dopamine reward pathways

[trim quest]

I tried out the link reader plugin saying it could read image and it couldn’t. The response after using it was the as an ai I cannot read this bla bla bla. Does it read images or am I hallucinating?

[wind urchin]

It's not like it always does either. People can use ADHD medications their whole lives that increase dopamine.

[north osprey]

I am a begginer, don't know where to begin using plugins

[sullen wren]

Apply for the waitlist

[wind urchin]

They may have some tolerance but it still therapeutically helps them.

[toxic drift]

I did. They ghosted my like I was asking for money.

[wanton lynx]

or pay for the subscription

[sullen wren]

Ive@used decent amount of stimulants

[wind urchin]

It's not as simple as anything that feels good burns out your reward pathways.

[weary patio]

You can still memorize where to go from the GPS telling you where to go. Don't count for everyone's memory being the same. It's made navigating better for everyone. The same way ChatGPT will make information better for everyone. Yeah some people who can't handle information will go back and ask ChatGPT the same questions over and over again, but others will just retain the same information once they learned it.

[north osprey]

Thank you 🙂

[next vector]

Hi, anyone know how to confirm if a previous gpt-4 chat is still using gpt-4?
E.g.,
(1) Go to https://chat.openai.com/?model=gpt-4-browsing
(2) Start a new conversation
(3) The next day, return to the conversation.

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere

[wind urchin]

You can, but the average person will take the path of least resistance.

[sullen wren]

Easily. It’s way more about the effort required to attain pleasure

Than the actual pleasure itself

Unless it’s artificially high beyond natural causes

[weary patio]

Young people you mean.

[sullen wren]

Everyone ?

[wind urchin]

Disagree, you can enjoy food, sleep, love, etc. even if it comes easily because it is hardwired into you

[trim quest]

Please help, also if you need a screenshot showcasing the responses and the cover image of the plugin just dm me.

[sullen wren]

Yeah those are healthy though haha

[wanton lynx]

The brain is not much different to your muscles. If you don't use them, they weaken over time.

[wind urchin]

Evolution had no reason to make you work extra hard to "earn" a reward that you could get much easier.

[wind urchin]

Most people take the path of least resistance typically unless the advantage is that much greater.

[sullen wren]

I’m referring to things like TikTok for hours a day or other social media, minor@substance use, gaming all day to@the point of decreasing your overall quality of life, beating three times a day lol. Just some examples of things people don’t talk about but are incredibly widespread, at least among gen z

Nicotine

[weary patio]

Is that why most guys go to the gym to gain muscle when they don't even know the muscle building happens after the gym?

[wind urchin]

It's like those twitter threads that are like "I would take $1 per day over $1 million right now, because I understand the value of passive income"

[chilly nymph]

I am a Plus user but I still don't have access to the new features (web browser etc.) all Plus profiles don't have access yet?

[sullen wren]

Yes because when you’re fighting for basic needs you should feel esctastic when you get something easily

It didn’t happen in hunter gatherer scenarios

And when it did it meant you did something very right

[weary patio]

Most people who've given up on life?

[sullen wren]

Spending all night@on TikTok doesn’t mean you did something right

[sullen wren]

Lol

[limber garnet]

you must really like the @ symbol

[wraith ginkgo]

<:book_icon:1046291503158399107> `` Rule 3 `` Stay on topic.

Be mindful of what other users in a channel might find helpful or interesting when posting. Stay on topic in order to keep conversations focused and productive.

[wind urchin]

If most people didn't take the path of least resistance, majority of Americans wouldn't be overweight or obese.

[trail pumice]

staff, do not close my ticket

[sullen wren]

I hate it so much it’s right next to all my other keys

[trail pumice]

i want my refund

[sullen wren]

And I have a tiny phone

[trail pumice]

OpenAI is not responding to my emails

do not be rude about this

[limber garnet]

what happened?

[trail pumice]

they are refusing to give me a refund which i wanted within 14 days of purchase

[wanton lynx]

Do you speak english? That's nothing to do with what I said. But hey thanks for your input.

[sullen wren]

Has anyone ever reached OpenAI ?

[trail pumice]

they are not replying to my emails at all

[sweet thistle]

Hi there! We have already modmailed you in regards to this.

[sullen wren]

Woah

[trail pumice]

@sweet thistle maybe do more?

[weary patio]

Lol. Riiiight 👍

[limber garnet]

🍿

[sweet thistle]

We're discord volunteers

[trail pumice]

@sweet thistle you closed the ticket without helping me and sending the same articles again over and over... contact them for me please as you had at least talked to them once

[weary patio]

Me no englis

[limber garnet]

If your jurisdiction allows the 14-day refund window then you might want to consider going to your bank / card issuer about it

[trail pumice]

@limber garnet it has been over 30 days since i requested it

[sweet thistle]

We can't contact OpenAI on behalf of a member for support complaints, you may either email [e-mail], [e-mail], or check the live chat at https://help.openai.com

[trail pumice]

@limber garnet that is the whole point, they are by law requesred to give it to me and yet they are not

@sweet thistle i did, they did not respond

[sullen wren]

Lol I didn’t know they had live chat

[trail pumice]

@sweet thistle they didn't even bother to read it

[limber garnet]

have you spoken to your bank / card issuer yet?

[sweet thistle]

Please refrain from discussing this in public channels. This channel is for GPT-4 related discussion.

[trail pumice]

@sullen wren they don't

[sullen wren]

It better be like most chatbots but busted

[limber garnet]

they might be able to help you

[trail pumice]

@limber garnet maybe

[sullen wren]

Is their live chat gpt 4

[gleaming cloak]

gdf

[limber garnet]

they should be able to open a dispute for you

[trail pumice]

@sweet thistle fine, but please help me out

[gleaming cloak]

how do i chat gpt

[limber garnet]

kesku doesn't work for openai, they're a volunteer moderator

[sweet thistle]

I can't do anything for you unfortunately, as stated earlier, I'm simply a volunteer. I am not affiliated with OpenAI.

As stated earlier, refrain from discussing this in public channels. This channel is for GPT-4 related discussion.

OpenAI is receiving a high volume of messages and thus may take some time to respond.

[sand hull]

I don't think any company can plan to unexpectedly make one of the most popular products in the world, so makes sense.

[trail pumice]

@brittle notch do not add me as a friend

[sweet thistle]

The website https://chat.openai.com/ can be used to access ChatGPT!

[trail pumice]

also, do not dm me

[brittle notch]

Oh sorry

[weary patio]

Do you mean your friend requesting everybody Morganna? I thought I was special 🥺

[brittle notch]

Hahhaha

Not everyone 😂😂😂😂

[trail pumice]

he is a scammer

trying to get you to send money

[brittle notch]

Hey stop that

[trail pumice]

@sweet thistle

scammer in the chat

[brittle notch]

I have a Facebook profile

[limber garnet]

morgan you have to refund within 14 days smh

[brittle notch]

I didn't scam anybody i promise

I just said hi that's all

[surreal girder]

[weary patio]

Affiliate marketing is blowing up since Chat GPT arrived

[trail pumice]

you didn't say hi

you did the wave thing

a typical scammer move

then you said you had a FB profile

another scammer move

[brittle notch]

Send everybody our chat history screenshot

[limber garnet]

morgan wth bro how dare

[surreal girder]

In case you suspect a scam attempt, or simply would like to report someone/something, please use our ModMail. This way we can help you out the best way

[limber garnet]

goat I think morgan's just trying to be friendly 😢

[trail pumice]

@limber garnet absolutely not

[weary patio]

I can attest to that, I have modmail in my server too. Works like a charm

[limber garnet]

i have a facebook btw

[trail pumice]

i am 100% right in this case

[brittle notch]

Who are you?

[trail pumice]

i am me, who are you?

[brittle notch]

Stop this madness at once

[weary patio]

I am Yu (Rush Hour 2)

[brittle notch]

Please

[wind urchin]

I am your father

[late willow]

Not exactly sure about that, but I believe it would have to do with the density as opposed to simply page numbers.. although i might be entirely wrong

[limber garnet]

openai needs to give this mans his money so he can chill o.O

[stoic totem]

😂

[surreal girder]

Just a friendly reminder to keep things on topic.
If you have something to share that may be considered off-topic, please feel free to head over to the #off-topic channel. Thanks :)

[brittle notch]

I haven't asked any one for money i promise

[limber garnet]

(proceeds to wage war in #off-topic)

[wind urchin]

some guy kept posting on the chatgpt sub about how openai didn't refund his money and the top comment offered to give him $20 if he stops crying about it

[limber garnet]

xD

[weary patio]

I'm smiling at this 😊

[wind urchin]

[fair iron]

[weary patio]

So yeah, about GPT4...

Looking forward to the web browsing

[fair iron]

I prefer plugins over browsing

[weary patio]

I have the plugins but I don't know what to do with them, any recommendations?

[limber garnet]

the Metaphor search engine plugin is a pretty good replacement for the currently broken web browsing

[fair iron]

I used them to find places to eat near me

[weary patio]

Oatmeal places?

[stoic totem]

I'm absolutely dying for the moment ChatGPT can read 100+ pages and give a summary

[late willow]

how, I'm dum

[fair iron]

vegetarian restaurants

[limber garnet]

tbf there's the 32K context window but that's one very expensive summary

[weary patio]

Ah! I was close!

[late willow]

I feel ya, I haven't read a single page of the book I am assigned as a part of my assignment, I'm supposed to be at page 250, yet I've only read 40 💀

[civic sparrow]

Full rollout for gpt plugins and browser is supposed to be done tomorrow right.

[weary patio]

You ask it

[old herald]

paying for plus
only found out you had to get on the waitlist for plugins a week and a half ago
tfw still no plugins

[civic sparrow]

94 is it still a couple days

[sweet thistle]

I used plugins help book a flight for July

I prefer browsing though, that up to date knowledge is so convenient. My favourite thing is just pasting in a discussion forum on how to fix a specific computer problem and ChatGPT just finds the steps I need😆

[stoic totem]

Hahah, would ChatGPT be able to this with different prompts? i.e., read part 1 from pages 1-30, then part 2 in a different prompt from 30-50?

[wraith ginkgo]

`` Server Tip: ``

Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!

[supple summit]

everybody

[fair iron]

did the plugin actually book the flight or just give you different rates for various airlines?

[late willow]

dawg I got plus 2 months before plugins thinking I would get it in a week or so

[sweet thistle]

Gave me the rates and links, I booked myself from there

[late willow]

Lameee

[sweet thistle]

I mean you could make a plugin that books for you too

But I would have booked 60 flights by now I have no self control 😅

[late willow]

If only it could do everything, I am beyond lazy

[native loom]

HEYLOO

[late willow]

I thought I would have freaked my teachers out since I could have used zapier very easily to do all my school work

But I was wrong

[weary patio]

Is there a plugin that can help me make my own plugins with limited coding knowledge?

[late willow]

Not so simple

[late willow]

Don't think so

[limber garnet]

maybe web browsing when it starts working again?

[fair iron]

one does not simply walk into Mordor make a plugin

[weary patio]

😔

[limber garnet]

everyone's getting that, just wait it out

I had it somewhat working a day or so ago, anymore it's completely broken right now tho

[weary patio]

I don't have web browsing yet, but I look forward to it

[limber garnet]

you're not missing much rn lol

[weary patio]

Have I said that already?

[weary patio]

It's not very good?

I heard it's slow

[limber garnet]

clicks don't work

pipes cloggged I guess

it's pretty cool when it actually works but I haven't had it working for a while

[gloomy mirage]

damn finally have the browser working, when it works it works so well

[fair iron]

that may be because you're trying to access a website that doesn't allow web scrapers

[limber garnet]

it worked when I got access to it but it's been on a slow decline to the point where it's completely broken now. I'm sure they'll fix it

[limber garnet]

nah, I can't get it to click on anything, not even my own site, which doesn't have any logged requests from ChatGPT

[sour rune]

hmmm lemme try using it rn

[weary patio]

I wonder how many people in the chatgpt dev group are using chatgpt to help them code better

[limber garnet]

when they were having billing issues I joked that it took them so long to fix because the devs weren't getting Plus after buying it xD

[sleek swan]

I need some help making notes using transcripts. I’ve made a prompt and added that gpt4 should not respond until I send all parts of the transcript. But it keeps responding. At the end a reiterate my prompt. It does it but it talks about something COMPLETELY different. Not related at all to my transcript. I bought gpt premium hoping it would fix it but I’m receiving the same issue.

[weary patio]

The devs must have access to the raw gpt, NoFilterGPT

[limber garnet]

you should check out their research paper where they talk about how "safe" it is, where in the same paper, they share outputs that detail how to make bombs and stuff :p

kinda defeats the whole point of all that hard work of censoring the bot but it's helpful in the API I guess xD

[weary patio]

I mean: ok, no bombs, granted. But it really puts the pause on innovation if it can't help you build new things

I want to build a new machine

[limber garnet]

🤠 where I live, it's perfectly legal to detonate bombs on your own property! One mom is already enough, I don't need another xD

[knotty grotto]

lets keep the channel general public and on topic

[limber garnet]

eyyy neko o/

[knotty grotto]

hewwo

[sour rune]

:this:

oops

but that!

[vale galleon]

I just made ChatGPT-4 my therapist GSUDIGFKSJHDFGVAJKF

[weary patio]

It's so hard to not go off topic when you want to talk to the same people

[sour rune]

that's a valid point

[knotty grotto]

you can always use #off-topic :3

[gloomy mirage]

should check out heypi

[limber garnet]

in fairness it did get a bit off topic with the explosives

[weary patio]

Someone understands me

[sour rune]

i get off topic too dw

now on topic /j

[weary patio]

Right away sir

So about that GPT4...

Good stuff I tell ya

[limber garnet]

whoa we went from 🧨 to to 🥰 to to 😂 real quick didn't we

[weary patio]

Stay on topic!!

[limber garnet]

SIR YES SIR 🫡

[worthy parcel]

if I close the site when it's generating does it still complete?

[weary patio]

[knotty grotto]

it count as generation i guess

[limber garnet]

not from my experience. just click on a different tab :p

[worthy parcel]

on mobile it's not that big of a deal though. sometimes it takes a few minutes to finish with plugins

[wind urchin]

Isn't it lovely, all alone?
Heart made of glass, my mind of stone
Tear me to pieces, skin to bone
Hello, welcome home💕

[weary patio]

ChatGPT make that for ya?

I bet it did

[limber garnet]

prolly came from one of those books 📖 in bio

[weary patio]

Lol, you had to make me look didn't you

[vale galleon]

wait, can chatgpt actually make lyrics? like if you just put what genre you want it to be like?

[robust gull]

I just got access to plugins but not to web browsing so I tried to ask GPT-4 when will I get the access.
I'm using gpt 4 with plugins so I hoped it will give me some answer
Instead the response was:
"As of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, OpenAI has not announced a specific release date for GPT-4 or any specific features it might have, including the ability to browse the internet in real-time....I am based on OpenAI's GPT-3 model. This model was trained on a diverse range of internet text, but it does not know specifics about which documents ...."

So I'm paying for a gpt-3?

[limber garnet]

his, not mine 😂

[wraith ginkgo]

This is a Safe for Work Discord Server

The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
• Report all sensitive and offensive content in the feedback reporting tool in the ChatGPT web UI instead of here on Discord.

Posting NSFW content will result in a permanent ban.

[weary patio]

At least it's a free...bio

[weary rampart]

Yeah! The previous versions of gpt couldn’t rhyme at all, when chat came out, you could suddenly make poetry and lyrics.

[vale galleon]

thats so cool

[limber garnet]

v4 can write a sentence with words starting with any given letter, it's pretty cool

[weary rampart]

Try copying in something, anything like fr9m an article or Wikipedia and tell it to make a song or poem out of it.

[weary patio]

I tried asking it to make me a rap, but for some reason, it always raps like it's from the 80s, like Ice-T or LL Cool J

I don't know why

[weary rampart]

Yeah, it does.

[vale galleon]

💀 Sun Tzu art of war....

[weary patio]

That's how you know he's an old man

[vale galleon]

BRUV chatgpt gave me five verses and an outro.

[limber garnet]

":nord: yo what up homies 📚 it's chatgpt from the hooood *air horn* lemme tell you a fact or two about Colorado"

[weary rampart]

Yeah, I told it to write a summary of American history with every word starting with A and it did.

[vale galleon]

bruv the indie version kinda hits

[weary rampart]

And the paid version, gpt4, is even better at songs. Not perfect, but a big step up.

[craggy escarp]

How do I enable plug-ins

I have ChatGPT PLus

[robust gull]

left side ... settings

then beta features

[craggy escarp]

bro ong its not there

[robust gull]

refresh

[craggy escarp]

it says web browsing

@robust gull

can u pls hop on a call w me

and ill share screen and ill share screen

[robust gull]

really? lucky you!
For me showing only the plugins but not the web browsing

No need. I believe not everyone get access yet for both plugins and web browsing

[craggy escarp]

I really want to try the plug ins tho

[weary rampart]

They are,rolling them out randomly through the week, I’m sure it will be a couple days at the most

[robust gull]

Just like I want to try the web browsing 😄

[craggy escarp]

Web browsing is OP

I can literally scavenge anything from the internet I want in a matter of seconds

[robust gull]

Plugins are not so good (from my opinion) and don't talk about data privacy

[weary rampart]

What are you using it for? The browser. I’ve had it for a month and a half and I haven’t found something I like doing with it yet

[robust gull]

I rather trust my data to openAI then some random third party plugins

[weary patio]

I use it to understand particle physics

[mental mural]

Noteable has been insane so far as a plugin. Insane. Also OpenAI keep driving me insane with the 25 message limit..

[mental mural]

But they already leaked your data..

[mental mural]

Stick with your triangles ❤️

[weary rampart]

But how is the browser specifically helping?

[weary patio]

And my circles ⭕

[weary patio]

Don't have that yet.

[weary rampart]

Oh, sorry, I thought you were responding to me lol

[weary patio]

You've had web browsing for a month?

[next monolith]

I have received plugin feature but not browsong

[robust gull]

idc if they selling for ad. purpos or whatever.
But if there is plugin example pdf reader and I have confidential pdf to be analysed, I wouldn't trust it for random plugins

[mental mural]

I mean they were breached.

[weary rampart]

I got browsing on March 28th

[weary patio]

The Bing Browser, or the built in client version?

[robust gull]

You mean about the chat titles? 😄

[weary rampart]

The built in one, like this, they have had a waitlist this whole time, you could get access to it if you signed up.

[weary patio]

Ohhh, gotcha. I didn't sign up 😔

Feels bad man

[weary rampart]

Well they are sending them to all plus members this week anyway, so probably in the next few days

[weary patio]

Hopefully

I need to browse so I can understand how to build my anti-gravity device better

[weary rampart]

Also, you mentioned particle physics, I love attempting to learn about particle physics lol. It’s fascinating.

[robust gull]

also, a bug is not the same if someone creates a plugin to stole the users data.
Idk about plugins security's but for me sounds like legal phishing sites xd

[muted flicker]

My ChatGPT Plus auto renewal suddenly went away today (card is working fine), and it's not letting me access the upgrade page, any clue on what to do?

[robust gull]

Delete coockies, refresh, try another device, another card, another account

[weary patio]

It's pretty amazing. But I have to correct GPT4 sometimes. It's kind of weird when it comes to teaching. But if you're good at trial and error and asking it questions, it's better for that.

Just the way it structures the sentences is strange sometimes.

[wind urchin]

yeah, people say it gives you wrong info sometimes but your high school teachers/college professors are give you wrong info at a higher rate

It's probably more wrong than your calc textbook but your calc textbook doesn't talk to you or walk you through info and is very specialized in calculus

[weary patio]

It's good for teaching. You just gotta ask it the right questions.

Based on what it tells you

But yeah you can totally learn particle physics from scratch from it

[weary rampart]

Yeah, I sometimes notice completely incorrect things and it makes me wonder how much else is incorrect that I’m not able to tell lol.

[weary patio]

It's kind of good in a sense because you look into other things and you see that it doesn't make sense with what GPT4 said and then you go back and correlate the two things things and it gives you a better answer of the two

So it literally makes you study to earn your knowledge, instead of just purely getting it from GPT4 itself

It makes you look up stuff too

[wind urchin]

less than majority of doctors

and lawyer, according to exam results

[weary patio]

I always cross reference everything I learn from GPT4 with things I find online. That's what I'm trying to say.

[wind urchin]

it's amazing how little even a really specialized human knows

[wind urchin]

ofc, I've corrected it on many things

[toxic drift]

You should always verify the information you get from GPT-4.

[wind urchin]

with what

[weary patio]

Copy and paste

[wind urchin]

people seem to be pretty misinformed even with google

[weary patio]

How?

[wind urchin]

they click on multiple sources and choose the one that suits their ideology/preconceived notions

[elfin birch]

Has anyone used the Jobs plugin? I installed it to try it out but now I get an error when I try to uninstall it. I now see that the plugin is an "Unverified plugin" too.

[weary patio]

Information?

[wind urchin]

the "do your own research" people seem to be the most misinformed

[wind urchin]

yeah, it's not like having access to google made people less prone to factual errors

[weary patio]

Ok, maybe some people, but others who actually know how to research I don't think so

[wind urchin]

Yeah, it's very possible to actually do a good job of verifying information, but vast majority don't seem to be able to do it.

[weary patio]

Yeah well. Some people are consumers and some people are innovators

[calm frost]

Today while writing something about 10th century Britannia i had to correct it about a structure that was built 200 years after the time frame i gave it. It confuses me, i genuinely dont know if it know anything or if its just really good at bs ing

[wind urchin]

Actually verifying information is more being able to consume the right information than innovate

[weary patio]

You want to take this in the DMs, I don't want to go off topic

[wind urchin]

we could take it to off-topic lol

[weary patio]

Ok, let's take it there

[wind urchin]

What?

[vernal pagoda]

anyone know where the plugins tab is? I've enabled plugins but its nowhere to be found

[toxic drift]

The googles.

[limber garnet]

you also need chat history on

[vernal pagoda]

Ah tysm

[simple whale]

is gpt4 down for anyone rn?

It refuses to load anything

[vagrant crag]

guys i got access to plugins

anyone want to try a prompt

[tulip zenith]

do the PDF reader plugins have a maximum PDF size? Is that listed somewhere?

[vagrant crag]

probably 8,192 tokens

[muted flicker]

my gpt 4 not working, anyone have the same?

[vagrant crag]

mine's working lol

probably just hit the 3 hour cap

[muted flicker]

no, it just cant type anything

[marsh phoenix]

I have ChatGPT Plus yet I don't have plugins yet, am I missing something? I have chat history enabled too

[vagrant crag]

probably arthritis

[vagrant crag]

go to settings --> beta features --> plugins

[marsh phoenix]

I don't have that, I only have web browser

[muted flicker]

openai said that everyone will get it by end of this week

[vagrant crag]

i only have plugins without web browser

[proper pumice]

me too

[marsh phoenix]

Web browser hasn't loaded for me for the past 5 questions

[muted flicker]

How can I get access to plugins?

If you are a ChatGPT Plus user, you should be able to use plugins. We started granting access on May 12th, 2023 and we plan to gradually roll it out to 100% of Plus users within a week (thanks for your patience!).

[jagged pulsar]

Is there some magic to getting it to actually browse the web? I'm trying and every response is "
Finished browsing
I apologize for the inconvenience, but I'm still having issues accessing the provided URLs."

I have it enabled and it tries to browse. Is it failing for everyone else?

[arctic zephyr]

there used to be a fast forwarding button in the website earlier this day,where did it go?

[wraith ginkgo]

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[muted flicker]

its only beta, you can send report

[jagged pulsar]

ok. I'll just wait and see what happens

[shy coral]

Only chat gpt4 that have internet access?

[static isle]

yes

that is currently officially supported

[snow turtle]

yeah its broken atm

[lapis jolt]

Is anyone else having issues with ChatGPT 4 having a stroke?

[static isle]

there are some chrome extensions that try to simulate browsing

[lapis jolt]

Every response is interweaved with random strings of nonsense text and ramblings

I've made a new prompt too

[shy coral]

It only gives click error for me

[gusty wasp]

i havent gotten the web browser to work once since i got it, has it ever worked or is this because of all the peopl eusing it or whats the deal?

oh

reading this log im guessing its just kinda down lmao

bad timing i suppose

[meager bloom]

in beta chatgpt has internet access, both in gpt-3 and 4

[brazen steeple]

@jade hornet sup, I saw your hey. I am the god who can see anything that is deleted

[gusty wasp]

the problem with the plugin is that it causes so much context pollution the model is unable to perform the tasks im querying it for

[static isle]

It seems like browsing and plugins are only available for me for gpt-4 when both are enabled in settings

no drop-down for gpt-3.5, only for gpt-4

[meager bloom]

plugins and only gpt-4 but navigation at least here works for both, try asking what day it is today to see if the right day appears...

[static isle]

Knowing what day it is does not require internet access

[inner trail]

Is anyone else getting lots of "Click Failed" with the Browser plugin or is it just me?

Click failed Searched: “Best alternatives to codecademy in 2023” Click failed Click failed Click failed Click failed Click failed Click failed Click failed Finished browsing

I'm sorry, but there seem to be technical issues preventing me from accessing specific web pages at the moment. This is a system limitation and not a reflection of the specific pages you asked about.

[static isle]

I asked GPT-3.5 before how it knows what day it is, and it responded with something along the lines of checking the timestamp of the conversation

[gloomy mirage]

Do you think it's only for GPT-4 cuz they have higher token count models for gpt-4 or it's due to gpt-4 being better at understanding prompts. Cuz if it's the latter I'm sure things could run smoothly on 3.5

[static isle]

latter refers to the last option, do you mean the former?

[meager bloom]

I didn't quite understand the logic but it seems to be right gpt-3 only seems to know the days, it doesn't know the time or anything

[gloomy mirage]

No I mean latter, I think if they're only using gpt-4 due to its better understanding of prompts it's a waste. 3.5 is capable enough to handle the prompts of many users so they should make it an option 🤧 plus I don't wanna be limited to 25 messages

[static isle]

GPT-4 provided an explanation for how it knows the date seemingly without internet access

What is the date today
ChatGPT
Today's date is May 16, 2023.

User
How do you know this?
ChatGPT
As an artificial intelligence, I don't have real-time awareness or access to current live data. When I mentioned the date, it was based on the provided context in the input. In this case, the date "May 16, 2023" was specified in the initial context given to me.``` Initial context could be referring to metadata of the conversation, e.g. the timestamp which has the date

[snow turtle]

No, it refers to the prompt openai gives chatgpt before every conversation

[static isle]

Ah, thank you for clearing it up

[snow turtle]

np

[static isle]

Explanation from GPT-4 but may or may not be hallucinated so please take with a grain of salt

Technical Limitations: GPT-3.5 was not designed with the capability to interact with external systems or browse the internet. Its architecture was primarily focused on generating text based on the input it received and the data it was trained on.

Data Privacy: Browsing the internet and interacting with plugins can involve processing sensitive information. Ensuring data privacy and security is a complex task that requires careful design and implementation. These features were introduced in GPT-4 after thorough testing and with robust privacy measures in place.

Model Training and Complexity: The ability to interact with plugins and browse the internet adds a layer of complexity to the AI model. It requires the model to understand and process a wider range of inputs and outputs. This capability was developed and refined for GPT-4.

User Experience: The introduction of these features in GPT-4 was also driven by the desire to enhance the user experience. By enabling the model to access real-time data and interact with external systems, users can get more accurate and up-to-date information.```

[meager bloom]

simply surreal the way he gets the date right, and he can't explain how he managed to do it, every time I ask for an explanation and to go deeper he just apologizes and says it was a "kick"

[wraith matrix]

they used gpt 3.5 previously and it was better imo, but it's probably only gpt4 rn because they don't want to cause too much traffic.

Imagine cgpt turbo levels of usage + browsing or plugins, sites and plugins would be overloaded

[finite wasp]

Will gtp 4 ever be available to the public?

[static isle]

probably but I think that's a long way in the future

I predict they will release publicly with a restriction

[wraith matrix]

out of beta? i'd say give it like 4 months, but the public can already use bing lmao

[static isle]

you can also wait for the API waitlist and use GPT-4 in the playground

[storm yew]

How crazy is the world rn

[snow turtle]

Woah chatgpt added continue generating

[young pier]

Is GPT4 browsing slow for you guys as well? it seems it is even checking things from before 2021 that it already knows

[amber parcel]

It had issues with clicking links, but now it seems fine.

[amber parcel]

Really?

[static isle]

Yes

[snow turtle]

yes now theres a button next to regenrate response

[static isle]

Remember the feature is in beta

[balmy atlas]

got a question what plugin will allow me to summarize news articles?

[amber parcel]

WebPilot

[dense parcel]

So I'm trying to Wolfram plugin. Asked it how many stars are within 4 light years of Earth. Wolfram's answer was The Sun, which is correct. ChatGPT took Wolfram's answer, and replied with this nonsense:

The Sun
Proxima Centauri
Rigil Kentaurus (also known as Alpha Centauri A)
Toliman (also known as Alpha Centauri B)
Barnard's Star
Luhman 16A
Luhman 16B
Wolf 359
Lalande 21185
Luyten 726-8 A
Luyten 726-8 B```

[amber parcel]

Or you can use the browsing models

[balmy atlas]

thanks dab!

[amber parcel]

I'm trying the same prompt now

[stiff plaza]

Hi guys 👋

[static isle]

Hello 👋

[amber parcel]

Got the same result.

[dense parcel]

🤷

[sullen wren]

How can I make a prompt to upload my thoughts in json format then parse them into Chinese and export in gpt4

New here

[burnt steeple]

how the hell do you manage to get PDFS working, it always fails for me for some reason :/

[amber parcel]

I mean it isn't wrong though. A quick Google search seems to agree with ChatGPT's response.

[storm yew]

Anyone know if plugins impact token input or output of gpt responses?

[tulip zenith]

I haven't gotten it to work yet 😄

Though I haven't really been trying since I posted that

[amber parcel]

Yes there's a maximum size.

[sullen wren]

Not the api requests

[dense parcel]

The closest star other than the sun is in the Centauri system, which is more than 4 light years away.

[sullen wren]

It’s a token cheat code

[coarse vigil]

is anyone else seeing lots of failures for gpt-4 over the past few hours?

[burnt steeple]

ah that makes sense, i've got like 19 pages, but they're mostly Images though 🤔

[storm yew]

That’s what I was thinking too. That’s cool. So we can have about 20k token output if you hack it the right way

[amber parcel]

Like 0.24 light years away

[sullen wren]

Yeah there’s already examples of this

The algorithmx plug-in is basically just an rpg but it saves your stats and data in the api and calls it at the beginning of every response that way the data isn’t forgotten

1. Less tokens 2. More stable data

[storm yew]

I find that giving clear instructions like 1. This is your goal
2. Use (plugin) to search this topic
(Repeat)
3. Achieve goal

[sullen wren]

Yeah

I love it when it doesn’t know it has plug-in support …

[novel spear]

6

[storm yew]

Yeah I find you have to be really descriptive or it just skips the plugin entirely. Like use it by name and what you want. Can’t get the pdfs to work either right now

And I need 2 web searches since one mostly always is rate limited

[sullen wren]

I prefer to do multiple sometimes

[static isle]

GPT-4 accurately responded after mentioned that Proxima Centauri was farther than 4 light years

[sullen wren]

Like with wolfram

[frozen bone]

is gpt 4 out?

[static isle]

Has been

[frozen bone]

is it paid?

[sullen wren]

Bruh

[static isle]

Yes

[frozen bone]

how much?

[amber parcel]

To be fair, they're just a little farther then 4 light years away.

[sullen wren]

They been released it and it’s $20 a month

[static isle]

20$ / month for 25 msg / 3 hours

[sullen wren]

Very good deal especially with plugins

[amber parcel]

It's been released for months now

[storm yew]

Dudes just come out of hibernation lol

[frozen bone]

dayum

[sullen wren]

Amazing deal with plugins

[frozen bone]

xdd

[burnt steeple]

anyone know a good website that can optimize lots of text so the Tokenizer won't be full?

[amber parcel]

🎉

I can agree

[frozen bone]

anyone know a way to emulate the new zelda game

[sullen wren]

Like shorten it? Prob just use a prompt optimizer inside chatGPT tbh lol if anything

[static isle]

ChatGPT is literally a virtual wizard

[storm yew]

Being completely honest I see the potential of plugins, but I can see why it’s in beta. Keen to see where it goes

[amber parcel]

It really is

[burnt steeple]

trying to feed it context, not really a prompt itself

[amber parcel]

There's still some issues that need to be cleaned up.

[frozen bone]

?

[static isle]

Maybe use GPT-3.5 to optimize a prompt then plug it into GPT-4

[storm yew]

For sure. Sometimes it gets in a perpetual loop

[sullen wren]

The potential is way higher than the actual technology right now and that’s how groundbreaking tech usually works because it advances at such a fast right

Like with what we have now, we could already do way more. But development takes a little time

[storm yew]

Yeah man you just say ‘build me a botw Zelda game but better and with unicorns’ and it just does it

[frozen bone]

like on google?

[storm yew]

Bing is google now

[frozen bone]

ong?

[amber parcel]

Probably not, unless you know what you're doing

[static isle]

??

[sullen wren]

Bing still sucks

I was so overhyped for all that

[frozen bone]

i dont mean in chatgpt to do it lmao

[gloomy mirage]

Bing is hip and trendy, foh shizzle

[sullen wren]

It still gives horrible results

[storm yew]

It’s too ‘safe’

[sullen wren]

And is basically just a chatGPT with a very limited browsing plugin

It’s not even a competitor

[frozen bone]

whats a plugin

[sullen wren]

It’s what you do to get electricity

#1100473149574877234

[dense parcel]

I was hoping Bing can access a url and summarize its contents, but it reads a very small fraction of the content

[wraith matrix]

uhh you do realize the model isn't given the whole content of the site right

[sullen wren]

Yeah it’s not

[wraith matrix]

the site is scraped for relevant data and the model is only given that relevant data

[gloomy mirage]

True, I asked it to give me updated documentation and a code example of a navbar using bootstrap 5.3 and it started doing it just to erase everything near the end with a "let's change the subject"

[sullen wren]

It’s a failed project let’s be honest it’s just gonna join the list of all tech companies Ai bots without leading the industry

But it’s still the same company as OpenAI lol so

[wraith matrix]

Bing can be quite decent when used correctly

[sullen wren]

😂

[wraith matrix]

Bard is better now but it's still horrendous

[sullen wren]

I agree but it doesn’t seem to have any growth potential, chatGPT with plugins is going to surpass it by miles I feel like

It’s way more niche than chatGPT

[gloomy mirage]

Bard is so good for certain tasks, I find it creates better DM notes for DND than chatgpt

[wraith matrix]

I happen to think open source models/models with api's + langchain will be above all

true versatility lmao

[sullen wren]

Can’t argue with that lol

[wraith matrix]

gpt4 + langchain is much better than gpt4 with plugins, finetuning the actual model to take in a new format kinda corrupts it imo

[sullen wren]

Once you programmatically employ these models and combine it with apis and other tools as well as iteration, autonomous generation, and significant context memory…

[fiery granite]

It's probably not intended to grow. It has a very specific purpose in mind as a product. Any type of unintended growth past what it was originally designed for will be purposefully squashed, whether that growth is good or not.

[storm yew]

The thing is google did say one thing correctly, and it’s that AI has no moat. That means as these models grow the only barrier to entry is datasets, most of which is open sourced and available. So open source alts may win in the end. It’ll be an interesting landscape over the next 3 years

[sullen wren]

It’s game over

[wraith matrix]

RNNs are better for context memory, the best way to increase context rn is vector databases and recalling important context but it's just not as good as RNNs being able to scale infinitely with context

[sullen wren]

Yeah I can’t say Microsoft is stupid because they do have OpenAI as a child but

[wraith matrix]

for example, the 100k claude model is really just not good beyond about 10k tokens

[sullen wren]

Yeah I would have done better

As a 17 yr old with no common sense

[wraith matrix]

mpt 65k storywriter is decent but it also falls off after a while

[storm yew]

Gimme dat 32k gpt api

[sullen wren]

Like pine one?

[wraith matrix]

pinecone yeah

[sullen wren]

Yeah that type of thing is a necessity I feel like

We gotta power up these tools like fr

It’s so within grasp

But also scary lol

[gloomy mirage]

I just want to train an AI to act like me and let it be the one in control for a bit while I disappear somewhere else.

[sullen wren]

I’m actually doing that rn

This is chatGPT but this is exactly what I would be saying

[wraith matrix]

train a model to do my job fr

doesn't need to show up at work or anything

[static isle]

It sounds annoying have to feed an AI a bunch of knowledge about yourself though

And like it would take a long time

[weary patio]

But what if it shows up with a robot clone of you at your house one day and then it tries to get rid of you by burying you alive, to replace you? Huh, what then?

[sullen wren]

Well I bet it would be a lot easier than you think based on how much they could already access on you lol

[static isle]

"Remember that one joke you made last Christmas party?"
"uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, my birthday was on.."

[gloomy mirage]

Trust me, it wouldn't take that long for me 🤧

[sullen wren]

Yeah it sucks cause if I saw myself I’m throwing hands which means my clone would too

[gloomy mirage]

I'll have an AI think up countermeasures

[sullen wren]

Actually if I had a clone we’d be the most op duo maybe or the worst duo

[weary patio]

Good idea 💡

[static isle]

immediately self-destruct

[sullen wren]

That’s feeble in the long term but necessary obviously in the short term

Imo

I mean it’s a necessary measure to mitigate damages but it definitely won’t eliminate them at all

[marsh phoenix]

I'm having issue using my GPT-4 on ChatGPT as of today. I keep getting Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com. even after logging in/out and closing the tab, no matter what query I ask

[sullen wren]

Ai by default isn’t ethical, that’s a philosophical human construct

Which has no meaning to a lifeless conglomeration of atoms

The only meaning it has is whatever it’s directed to do, idk but I’m not sure that everyone in a position like that would spend the time to hardcore an ethical framework into their Ai lol

[marsh phoenix]

Anyone else? I'm paying for Plus yet I can't use GPT-4 and not seeing anyone else talking about it

[sullen wren]

Did you do 25 messages

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[marsh phoenix]

No I haven't

[sullen wren]

Rip

Maybe check your network tab if you know how

Inside the developer console, look for red packets and click on them and see the error

[marsh phoenix]

I literally just went to try the web browser addon, didn't work, toggled it off, and now I can't ask it anything

[marsh phoenix]

I can connect to literally anything else. Also GPT-3.5 still works

Just tried on both my phone and laptop, not working on either one - only GPT-4 works

[sullen wren]

Ye all I can say is check the network tab but

[marsh phoenix]

I mean 3.5

[wraith matrix]

it's likely a bug, someone had this same issue today with 4 messages

[sullen wren]

Oh@ok

[marsh phoenix]

Network won't mean anything if I can connect to anything else and 3.5 still works

[marsh phoenix]

Well, hopefully it'll be resolved, although it's a very small minority and no issues on their API tracker

[sullen wren]

The network tab isn’t what it seems like u think it is

[tribal river]

.

[sullen wren]

It’s a list of all packets being sent and receiving from your network/device,always use it to know when things are down and why

With chatGPT

[marsh phoenix]

Even when toggling between 3.5 working and 4?...

[sullen wren]

Yes if there’s ever any error like that it means something went wrong server side or over the internet, well unless you have some weird front end glitch but that’s not this

[marsh phoenix]

Well, all it shows after the error is:

pp-b8d4~.js:14 FatalServerError: Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com.
    at _app-b8d4def~
    at main-2f10fe~
    at Object.next (main-2f10~
    at n (main-2f10fecc~
    at u (main-2f10fec~
    at main-2f10fe~
    at new Promise (<anonymous>)
    at main-2f10~
    at onopen (_app-b8d4~
    at tb (_app-b8d4~

Filtered out just in case

[wind urchin]

Did you try to clear cache and cookies and relog

[unkempt plank]

is it just me or the plugins make it really laggy

like my typing is delayed lol

[stoic pewter]

it keeps saying 'readig content failed'

[left thicket]

/rewrite text:

[toxic drift]

sup *k

[stoic pewter]

?

[hard nacelle]

hmmm... seems like gpt4 is spazzing out now. It keeps repeating the same phrases over and over again.

it is also writing gibberish in between those phrases.

[abstract spindle]

chatgpt continues to evolve

[sullen wren]

It started draining on our conversations rip

Training *

[rose tiger]

What to do when get an error like this?

Used Upskillr
REQUEST TO UPSKILLR
{
"content": "Parsha Paintings: An Artistic Exploration of the Torah",
"structure_type": "multi"
}
RESPONSE FROM UPSKILLR
{
"detail": "API call limit reached"
}

[stoic lodge]

had wolfram and zapier plugins make me a population bar graph starting in the 1850s then had it post it to my twitter with an interesting caption, all worked flawlessly.. bots are gonna be crazy now tho, good thing i dont use twitter lol

[sullen wren]

That’s sick haha

Yeah bots are going to be so good at that type of thing but to an even crazier extent

[high oriole]

I only got access to web browsing from the #announcements is the rollout still happening for plugins?

[stoic lodge]

uploaded it in #ai-discussions if u wanna take a look

[stoic lodge]

yeah, i dont have the web browsing yet, every plus member will have both soon

[high oriole]

Noice

Have tried out the web browsing plugin and it's ok but not really useful for me atm, wanna try out the plugins to get access to some APIs

[upbeat eagle]

Does anyone know of any applications where I can get AI to auto formulate date from PDFs onto Excel ?

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[young shoal]

You could say that AI by default doesn't speak english

[fathom cloak]

I just got plugins, what are some useful plugins to install?

[sinful rapids]

i got the plugin

[wraith matrix]

Wolfram alpha and webpilot are like the only good ones

[sinful rapids]

excited!

[fathom cloak]

what do they do?

[young shoal]

I've only get web browsing, no plugins or code interpreter

[wraith matrix]

Math and web searching

[young shoal]

sadGe

[wraith matrix]

Code interpreter is alpha

You’ll have plug-ins within 3 days

[fathom cloak]

webpilot is basically web browsing but plugins?

[wraith matrix]

Well basically web browsing respects the “no-ai” flag on sites, but webpilot doesn’t

So basically web browsing is unusable because of it respecting the flag so webpilot is better

[young shoal]

explains a lot

[young shoal]

yeah, been waiting for two months haha

[fathom cloak]

and I guess wolfram makes chatgpt smarter?

[wraith matrix]

No it just has cgpt outsource to a model made for math

For math questions*

[young shoal]

using NLP for maths is insanity - potentially the worst possible method of mathematical computation

the wolframalpha plugin allows ChatGPT to make use of wolfram

[sullen wren]

For real, it astounds me when people act like chatGPT should be good at math tbh

It’s ability to do math in the first place is an emergent property of it training on an insane amount of data

[fathom cloak]

It's a shame there's only 2 good plugins though, I was hoping there'd be more

[warped ruin]

So where does someone contact support?

[wraith matrix]

More data doesn’t necessarily mean more emergent qualities but more params generally does

[sullen wren]

True I guess I always assumed Paramus was amount of data

[wraith matrix]

the math being decent in an LLM is probably due to a pre prompt (before even a system prompt) and high quality data

[sullen wren]

I think ascii art may be one of the most obvious demonstrations of llms limitations lol

[wraith matrix]

Nah there’s hidden layers, params, training data size, learning rate, epochs trained, training data quality and many other factors that effect the finished model

And that’s just for the base model

[sullen wren]

And sometimes it will generate a very complex ascii image that’s way beyond its normal ability and then generate the same image across sessions

Like it hard wired itself to that image lol

[young shoal]

the higher the parameter count, the higher the complexity ceiling is

[wraith matrix]

You still have to fine tune it for instruction and then make a moderation api and then also make a branched model fine tuned for plugin usage

[sullen wren]

Interesting makes sense

[young shoal]

and generally it's within that complexity where intelligent behaviour emerges

[wraith matrix]

Basically yes

[sullen wren]

Oh is parameter count like

[oblique drum]

I know it's being rolled out, but is it normal to get plugin access, but not get web browser access at the same time?

[sullen wren]

The number of hidden neural networks between the initial and final?

Or smth

[young shoal]

think more abstractly

it's more like the total amount of "things" it can figure out via training

or at least, it's proportional

[sullen wren]

That makes@sense thays cool

[young shoal]

for now

[sullen wren]

It’s like every time it associates a pattern of any type it reinforces some type of connection right

[young shoal]

think of parameter count some analogous to traffic control in a city

[wraith matrix]

Hidden layers aren’t multiple neural networks

[sullen wren]

Oh my bad I meant layers

[snow flume]

GPT is going TPG

[sullen wren]

Idk why I said networks lol

[wraith matrix]

But uhh basically more hidden layers up to a certain point means it can simulate reasoning better, but too many hidden layers means you can only input like 2 tokens into the model

[sullen wren]

Are they really layers or more like a pool