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Showcasing new products then making the majority wait extended periods of time is just poor imo, don't tell until it's shipped and ready to use. Take a leaf out of apples book
using that logic you would only have access to GPT-3.5 Turbo for your Plus subscription yet you also get limited GPT-4, so really you're ahead already 🙂
Just to get your interest hahaha
Isn't this a typical commercial marketing tactic?
How can I use this server
be friendly, socialise about how awesome gpt4 is
you are already using
you're doing it
Chat GPT-4 with web browsing is removed from my list, and now I just see something called Web Browsing.
I'm been a Karen on this one idc, all new products once showcased should be shipped immediately to paying customers
same, it's presumably still GPT-4 since there's the cap message at the bottom
Ah
The furthest distance in the world is just watching others experience new things (lol)
#ReleaseThePlugins 😢
I haven't got time to be waiting round to get my hands on such technologies, I could be dead tomorrow, then ide have live in the afterlife knowing I didn't get to use GPT plugins
Looks like I'll just have to wait until the day all users can use the plugin
The "alpha" tag is not on the web browsing model, so hopefully it's better than before
Someone get altman in the chat, I need a word...
That’s a possible workaround. Thanks
But you may get access to Plugins in the after-life
You still gotta use them anyways
I'll probably be reincarnated as myself on the waitlist
Haha 😄
I'll die laughing here sooner or later
@cloud geyser Yes, but I want to know what the benefit is
Saudi is not a supported country
why is that?
literally just allow it for the country
We here for a good time not a long time
Using a VPN to bypass geographic restrictions is against the Terms Of Service. We don’t discuss that here.
then why are they banning it from Saudi Arabia?
are they raci /////sts?
I don't know, I only know the #rules
Some country have internet censorship. And openai product refer so lot of website. Country decide to ban it and Openai apply must apply country law.
Strictly sexist sir
Is it being very slow for anyone else? i asked it a simply hi and it's taking forever to generate.
saudi didn't ban chatgpt nor did they give a single F about chatgpt
the only censorship we have here is ||B||orn website
Keep it general public please.
You can always email support@openai.com to know the reason
don't wanna
Calm down sir, play with some oil in the meantime
🤣
wait
I already have an AI
Anyone know when the 32k is out and if u need to join a seperate wait list?
No eta for now
Ok
Hello, how do I benefit from this server
You can discuss and learn
By asking questions that you have interest
how would i do that when you wouldn't answer my simple question
I answered you didn't like my answer. So I suggest to send email to support@openai.com
Get a VPN already
as if they'll ever respond lmao
phone number needs to be american number
We don't discuss about breaking the rule inside the server
i don't have that
@inner trail I have a question. Do I ask it here on this page?
who actually cares?
If its about GPT-4 you can ask it here, if not find the appropriate channel
That's the rule you have agrees
this server has nothing to help me anyways
and even if I'm banned I'll just come back
Create artificial intelligence sites for free@inner trail @inner trail
Create artificial intelligence sites for free
I just want to know if it's been slow for anyone else today.
I'm getting this all the time on my laptop too. I can't figure it out. Its driving me mad!
it's been performing as expected for me tonight, are you using GPT-3.5 or GPT-4?
😂
Lmao this gotta be a bot
I think for your case you could ask in #ai-discussions or #off-topic
I'm just on whatever version Chrome is using. I assume it's the latest.
Hi, I'm Nekita. I don't know much English, but I hope I get along with everyone.
yes but are you using ChatGPT GPT-3.5 or ChatGPT GPT-4?
It is not even willing to write a few more words as a preset or access some open source GPT to disguise itself...
No idea. 😅
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ok then that's why it's slow, servers are busy. GPT Plus is faster.
😂😂
It was working pretty fast all day yesterday. I guess I'll just wait then.
The problem with this is that the assistant who is supposed to accompany me professionally. If I keep opening new threads here, the reference to the previous work would also be lost again
how can i give image as a input to chatGPT
you can't, image input is not available yet
any other alternate way of converting image and give ?
you could describe the image to ChatGPT
dude the nerd emoji is actually banned here
A lot of people abused it, so it's on the automod filter
lmao
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Thanks
dude there's soo many normal words that are banned here
there's no list for the banned words there
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He left lol. Anyway it seems to be going faster for me again.
hello everyone. i have a usecase and i wanna see whether i can use this tool to solve the use case. the use case is, lets say i have mobile app summary page as a image and i wanna give this image as a input to some agent (dont know any autogpt or any kind available) and agent needs to build the code in flutter for this image. is it possible?
Chatgpt cannot currently take in an image input, so that is not possible I don't believe
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while GPT4 is capable, that feature has not been made available yet (image recognition)
understood. any other way of doing. like autoGPT or any other way? if any hints from team would be greatly appreciated.
I don't know anything about autoGPT 🙈
I recommend you join autoGPTs server (if there is any)
English please
thanks!
Hey, has anyone found success using GPT4 API or ChatGPT for academic research? I may have an opportunity to present the uses and implications of AI in research to a few research scientists. I'm trying to put together examples and information that would help show off how they can use AI right now. Any advice or resources would be greatly appreciated!
It just sounds like you just want to do character recognition
yes kind of. not only that. assume that the image is UI design image.
What do you mean, like build an app from a description of the app?
what issue are you facing
It doesn’t work for some reason.
please specifiy, in chatgpt? the api?
what error are you seeing, please give me a proper description or else i cannot understand the issue
Okay hold on
?Who has Turnit In Instructor account
Yes the same ! @steel turtle
i use it all the time
Hi people
in our country its like a virus spreading everywhere,most people i know is currently using it
Do you find that people outside of tech/software/academia are using it? Regular people in regular jobs?
I have had a plus account for some time but do not see any GTP4 models in playground.
you can google for examples on how people have used the API to "chat" with a custom corpus. Not sure if this the king of thing you were asking about
the API and ChatGPT are separate products
to google has new ai tool as bard,everyone is racing against chatgpt
I was under the assumption that the advantage of the plus was access to work with the latest models in playground / API. What is the best way to get access?
the API is completely separate, to get access to GPT-4 in the API you need to sign up to the API waitlist at https://openai.com/waitlist/gpt-4-api
difference of gpt rn and gpt-4?
Ive been using the platform since December, how can I see my status on the waitlist for it. Is there a link to confim im on it?
No
unless you specifically signed up for the waitlist then you're not on it. Once you sign up to the API waitlist you will receive a confirmation email telling you that you have applied.
im thinking I put myself on it but with a dot in my gmail address which is without a dot on my account. Could that be an issue?
I see now it asks for ORG id : )
get your organisation ID here https://platform.openai.com/account/org-settings
hi is there any channel for chatgpt4?
you're in it
meaning of using it:)
no
This is not ChatGPT, you can access ChatGPT here - https://chat.openai.com/chat
any idea how long the wait is for api access if you are plus account?
there was a server for it with multi channels of the bot, and you can ask him anything about coding and he can provide an answer
and im sure that cost them an arm and a leg
being a Plus account has no bearing on the API waitlist. I waited 24 days for access, your mileage may vary. Some people waited days, others are still waiting.
anyone knows about this?
if someone ran that i feel for their wallet
i use gpt4 on a few things on my community and it adds up fast
it costs money to use
Whatever that was it wouldn’t have been free, GPT 4 always cost money whether you’re paying monthly for the chat or whether you have access to the API, which might have been The case with that chat bot which means someone was paying for it and letting other people try it.
Yeah maybe that'll pressure the devs into make it free for you 🙄
Regular mode is free anyway. It used to cost money before ChatGPT was released
H
does anyone know if there is a special place to get specific information on chatgpt instances? For example, lifespans, retrieving previous information in the same conversation thread, and so forth? And/or ask those questions?
yeah but it's restricted in our country, that's why im seeking for a way to use GPT-4
I found a small bug in your chat UI landing page for new users.
In chrome when you click onto one of the pre made prompts it applies the prompt into the input but does not know that there is now content there. So the submit icon is not in an active state to click. If you put add and remove a space it then the icon becomes active.
Setup a server in the US
file that in #1070006915414900886
was just thinking you could set up VPS and run it on it
but the phone is needed
Using a VPN or Virtual Server to bypass geographic restrictions is against the Terms Of Service. We don’t discuss that here.
find someone in the US to verify for you.
we don't help people bypass geographic restrictions here #rules Rule 0
Is the Divay bot that's that says that he is made by Discord real?
No
actually where is that mentioned in the terms?
Look yourself smh
I am trying 😄
I know mods always say it, but I dont see it anywhere in rules/terms that you cant discuss it
Not trying to argue, just wondering 😛
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In the tos
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What is the main difference between free and paid service of Chat GPT, why would you use paid?
He doesn’t understand logic don’t try to explain xd
“Why can’t I help people BYPASS on the official server” -some random
guess none of that specifically says that you cant discuss it on Discord
but just saying 😄
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Don’t bother asking he’s been told like 5 times lol
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you get access to GPT4, you can only do 25 generations every three hours though. Worth it for me, GPT4 can be incredible. And then the regular model of ChatGPT also works much faster.
but you can't if your country is restricted:(
Yes but its worse than GPT-4
Yeah I don’t know why it’s restricted in so many places. At least from openAIs end. I’m sure it helps cut down on the amount of people using it. Maybe there’s some liability issue that they only got sorted in a few countries so far, idk.
Thanks redF, what do you mean by 25 generations every three hours?
That's the current limit
Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like a rolling limit
When you generate something with GPT for it starts a three hour timer and you only get 25 replies in that time. I assume also just to keep the amount of people using it down.
if you do one prompt every 8 minutes you will never reach the cap
🫡
Thanks for that! I am still figuring out the lingo!
Does it tell you when you reach the cap?
W@OpenAI#6316
yeah and it will switch conversation to gpt 3.5
If I know I’m gonna be using it a lot later I’ll have it reply to me and then like 2 1/2 hours later, I’ll start using it and by the time I use up those 24 replies, the timer is about to end and it starts a new 25.
Hy guys
last thing we want is to sound uninformed!
Say talk about something new
Of course, it has to stop you somehow. It asks you to switch back to the default model
a single button will resend your message to the default model
No one can say like this
Like this
Does anyone with plugin access know if there is a rate limit on usage there too? Code interpreter as well? I’ve been seeing a change in screenshots where the 3 hour limit notice exists for each of these but I’m unsure if it’s true. Can anyone verify? I know for a while there it was unlimited in alpha.
@grizzled tapir
Company
saw these guys say it switched to GPT4 and with same limit
#1100731894452199535 message
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Much appreciated, thank you for confirming
Hopefully this implies a larger scale rollout is coming soon
yeah there are signs that it might be coming
anyone knows about "Fine-tune LLaMa model for specific use case"?
How powerful is turnitinai detection vs gptzero?
#ai-discussions please
ty
ah i only had the 3.5 i believe based on speed
also seeing on community forum that if you reach the cap on plugins with GPT 4 you just cant use it
I understand why they got rid of it. I was literally just using Chat GPT-4 with browsing, and then I'd start every prompt with "Don't search the web." lol
Meaning the cap is shared across all tools, interesting
Yeah I’m seeing that as well
It's a shame, 3.5 browsing seemed to function a little better than 4. Not context wise, but like. Actual searching
Default mode is useless
Not to mention Legacy was a bit more concise than Default
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This really is a shame because some things don't require gpt-4 level intelligence?.. like code interpreter
If I'm just editing a video or cutting an image I don't need gpt-4
text-davinci-002 was fine
hello, where can i report issues with my GPT-4 account issues?
browsing is still 3.5, is doing a multi-model approach where GPT-4 handles the browsing agent logic
so they still ding you for gpt-4 use lmao
i honestly have yet to come up with a sweet use case for browsing -- anyone have a good case?
seems slower+clunkier than just finding my corpus via search, then chunking it into a thread
there might be some different methods depending on your problem
check https://help.openai.com/en/collections/3943089-billing
im curious how browsing acts vs my method
Does Code Interpreter have a cap of 25 messages now???
apparently plugins are on GPT4 now with same cap (and cant use 3.5...reach cap you are done)
GPT4 is capped. so if you're using code interpreter plugin with GPT4 then yeah
Dear god, why would they do this?
They really need another paid tier higher than $20 per month to remove the cap of 25 messages every 3 hours. This is ridiculous.
I don't have access.
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A long time ago.
they did mention the following in the gpt-4 "release notes"
Depending on the traffic patterns we see, we may introduce a new subscription level for higher-volume GPT-4 usage; we also hope at some point to offer some amount of free GPT-4 queries so those without a subscription can try it too.
from: https://openai.com/research/gpt-4
Interesting
It would be fine if the GPT 4 code interpreter was really that much better than 3.5, but at least for all the things I am doing, I run into the same amount of problems. It’s not too big of a deal at 3.5, I just keep trying it figures it out eventually but with 4 it just runs out before I can get it.
I agree.
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OMG. They just raised the cap to 30 per HOUR.
not for me in GPT4 in chatGPT
why is the icon now pruple?
Icon art just changed for the drop down menu.
Check again, it says “Available exclusively to Plus users, capped to 30 responses per hour.” Under the model selection. They didn’t change the part over that chat bar yet
yep, they changed the layout
Our most capable model, great for tasks that require creativity and advanced reasoning.
Available exclusively to Plus users, capped to 30 responses per hour.
btw anyone even noticed they added 2FA in chatGPT settings? (it also applies to platform)
Any of you guys get plug-ins yet?
just logging out and in
yeah its needed for some plugins
yeah i have plugins
hey why is it purple now
lmao at the bottom it still says "GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours.."
GPT-4 has for me still 25 mess per 3 hours but purple sumbol now??
The “GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours.” Is still there,they didn’t fix that yet. But it says the new limit in the drop down
nope, not for me
ill spam it and find out for science
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Ngl I am a bit impaitent, but I want to contact chatgpt for plug-in access. It shouldn't take this long.
its only dev access still
i think wider rollout is coming, plugin model changed to gpt4 today
nothing like it in model selection for me
and no longer says (alpha)
This is the new text from the drop down menu:
Available exclusively to Plus users, capped to 30 responses per hour.
The old text at the very bottom of the screen is still the same:
GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours.
Changed limits to GPT-4?
guess it just didnt reach me yet
I don't care much for the new GUI/art design.
I have so far only updated the GPT-4 icon 😄
Do you have the new UI with the different 3.5 and 4 buttons?
nope
Let us know how that goes 😁
The new UI is pretty funky
are you all US?
On mobile at least, not sure about desktop.
maybe not in EU yet 😄
well
nope
looking at my activity i did 22 and got locked out of gpt 4 lmao
i haven't used it in a few hours
good news is the timer says an hour from now
I think sometimes it might also use message if it errors for some reason
guess it might be just per API call
whether it fails or not
What they say: visite the website
@tardy hearti agree
I think I'm ok with the new message/time cap.
Available exclusively to Plus users, capped to 30 responses per hour.
Mine doesn't say anything in the drop down. It still has 25 messages every 3 hours under the input box
I was hoping that after they remove legacy it might free up some space for more resources for 3.5 or 4
either thats this, or they did some upgrades finally
I agree, it's already much better than 25 messages at 3 o'clock.
honestly i was fine at 25 per 3
Interesting
are you also EU?
or not US
Guys, can you please tell me if anything else has changed besides this limit? I just don't have an update yet 😄
this is more then acceptable to me
Nope. Africa
can confirm I am US
I didn’t use my API free trial before it expired, is there anyway I can get it back
Nope. It's gone.
I definitely would be happy with 22 per hour instead of 25 per 3 hours lol
i mostly use the api because of the proper 8k context
but this is great for my daily quick questions
wonder if they changed the max input too, will test once i have more uses
aha, i forgot i tested the new plugins, that's likely where the remaining went.
those are part of gpt4 as well
i prob did 4-5 calls on that
Thank you
Oh okay. I don't have plugins for now. Not even sure I submitted wait list. Didn't particularly see any need personally. Now I use plus and gpt4 api to keep api cost down. It gets super expensive via api 😄
agree
👍🏾
source?
It's official, check the description of GPT-4, assuming your a plus member.
The new drop down menu on the site under gpt4 says “Available exclusively to Plus users, capped to 30 responses per hour.” It looks like they didn’t update the message over the text box yet though
i have plus but still "GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours."
chatgpt is driving me nuts these days with excessive parallel structures in every reply, every paragraph... 🥲
not sure what is the proper way to call this in english, but sentences like this: "I can't help her, I can't comfort her, I can't give her an answer", or "he has his dark side, he has his secrets, he has his pain"
anyone experiencing the same? or has any idea how to stop this kind or sentences? I explicitly asked for no parallelism but i keep getting them.
ok thx
Report it as a bug under the bug bounty program lol. It doesn’t say that kind of bug is excluded.
I send messages to chatgpt, but it shows error, does anyone know what happened with this?
lol
The 30 per hour message is gone!
I want to send the picture to this server, but it seems I can’t
Would that be the equivalent of when you get a check from a class action lawsuit for 3 pennies? hehe
Booo
Wait, what??? It is gone! What the heck is going on!
Someone check as see what the actual message cap is. lol
Date changed to May 12th update, no blog post yet
anyone know?🥹
And also some stars appear at the top as well?
This happens to me sometimes when the servers are busy
If the message cap is still 25 per 3 hours, AND we're forced to use Chat GPT-4 for the Code Interpreter... I'm gonna be livid. lol
I can’t chat with chatgpt now, it’s so sad
This situation has been for a week, it’s so amazing, looks like my account has been banned
I still can't access the plugin, I have registered for the whitelist 😢
Why does gpt4 have a purple logo with this emoji? ✨
No one knows
don't even have plugin access and been a member since release smh
It just happened
ya
Maybe reserving black for plugins of new versions?
Someone call the news. OpenAI changes GPT 4 logo from black to purple!!!!
they updated the whole UI
UI Seems to same to me
Didn’t the stars reffer for bard ? Google ai
When I reached the 25 message cap earlier. It wouldn’t let me use any of the other modals like pluggins, code interpreter and browsing as they’re all like to gpt4. I was forced to use the legacy modal and for the first time I had to use google to finish my tasks 😭😭😭😭
saw a tweet that they changed it
how can we send the feedback to the staff of chatgpt
probably rolling out the update
ok
official?
yoo
new udpate
no, just saw screenshots
got it
Can do #1070006151938314300 , contact support@openai.com or thumb down or up after a prompt
I don't see any new Tweets from Sam, Brockman, or OpenAI.
i can send you on dm, cant send tweets here
how do you guys get the browsing feature on chatgpt, i already have 4
Still waiting for plugins :/ ngl should be available for Plus members imo
May 12 version but no patch notes yet lol
If u dont mind
Me too, waiting for about 3 weeks now
its not the first time something changed and notes much later
If you refresh the page really fast, a little alpha menu pops up for a fraction of a second.
I don't know what to do, I don't know what to do
I don't know what to do
What is going on with GPT4? By each iteration it gets worse? It cannot even program properly now
LETS GOo
He tweeted we are so back
Thank you for your patience while we roll the features to all Plus users. These are the features we are rolling out over the next week. :
Web browsing: Try a new version of ChatGPT that knows when and how to browse the internet to answer questions about recent topics and events.
Plugins: Try a new version of ChatGPT that knows when and how to use third-party plugins that you enable. To use third-party plugins, follow these instructions:
a new update?
Plugins and web browsing for us plebs!!!!
WE ARE SO BACK
I believe they’re being rolled out slowly. I was fortunate enough to be part of the beta testers so I’ve had access to them for a while.
what!!! let me verify
Resele info are available now
Valid doubt. Did not expect this at all
Release notes (May 12)
If you are a ChatGPT Plus subscriber, enjoy early access to experimental new features, which may change during development.
Thank you for your patience while we roll the features to all Plus users. These are the features we are rolling out over the next week. :
Web browsing: Try a new version of ChatGPT that knows when and how to browse the internet to answer questions about recent topics and events.
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Navigate to https://chat.openai.com/
Select “Plugins” from the model switcher
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where is this from?
🤑
To enable Beta features:
Click on Profile & Settings
Select Beta Features
Toggle on the features you’d like to try
Anyone has that menU?
and where is that?
click on gpt version on the bottom
probably not out yet
Has anyone tested the Chat GPT-4 message cap to see what it actually is? 25/3hours, or 30/1hour.
Oh YES!!!! FOUND IT!!!!
Will be rolled out over the next week, but the brief wait is aighty, that's great news.
CONFIRMED!!!
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Thank you for your patience while we roll the features to all Plus users. These are the features we are rolling out over the next week. :
Web browsing: Try a new version of ChatGPT that knows when and how to browse the internet to answer questions about recent topics and events.
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Does this mean PLUS subs get plugins?
yes
POGU
Yeh buddy
nice
i had a feeling since the (alpha) tag went away
No, I couldn’t think of what to type in in time lol
Plugins will be available
hehe
If you refresh the page over and over again really fast you can see a little alpha tap pop up
i always regenerate because some answers are so bad ...
Solid compensation for getting rid of Legacy. But now they better work on the message cap for plus users
Please allow a way to use previous versions. By each update chatGPT4 gets worse (at least for programming). It is not even usable for what I am doing. I found out there was an update today because it seems incapable of doing things it was doing a few days ago...
So the plugins would also contain code interpreter right....?
I can't wait to get bugfree python code from GPT 4
not just programming. writing too. the recent update made chatGPT4 repeating itself within the same reply in 2 separate paragraphs. so dumb
We have 0 info, but that should be one of the easier plug ins to give us
yo ok, what's happening - apparently there's a beta to op-in to?
U can it using a Chrome Extension
It seems that it has 0 conversation capability. Before, if I said to alter something, it understood I was referring to a previous response. Now it doesn't even know what I am talking about.
New UI
was the number of messages also increased?
What do I ask the questions to the ai bot?
Really?
Thanks! However, I don’t seem to be permitted to post in the suggestion server🥹
Can anyone please tell me where I have to ask the questions
this is a discord server with humans
We thought they were going to, but it seems like they changed their mind about upping that the moment.
mine still has the new ui
GPT 4 also seems a lot faster
I still have an old interface and there are no new functions (I am a Plus subscriber). Maybe something needs to be done or just expect?
What can we do if the account seems to be banned
Check the #server-roles also
Someone update the announcements quick!!! it's been dry since Apr 26th.....
Yes. Example, I just asked to alter a python function, and it included imports that I already have previously in the code.
This might seem dumb, but it understood (previous to this update) that this is a snippet from the code, not the whole code, therefore including the imports isn't necessary.
Have you tried refreshing your browser?
same here - is there something we have to do? a beta to op in to?
Yes, I even tried from my phone. There's nothing yet, alas.
I assume that it will gradually appear in all.
i also not seeing anything new in my UI. maybe they are rolling out by region or something. i am in asia
is there a way to use gpt 4 model for the chatgpt plugin codegpt for IDEs? I tried selecting it and it says 'requires access' 'the gpt 4 model does not exist'
Well, I hope that within a few hours everything will appear and we can test the changes.
Check the GPT 4 logo. It must be purple
what's the reason 32k isn't open?
gg
The GPT-4 logo has changed, but the interface and functions have not.
i dont buy it, i have linked pastebins which contained data with unique identifiers in it. There is no way gpt guessed it. This feels like capability that openai is trying to shunt into the api offering which has a different billing model than a premium web subscription.
What were you doing on the account?
I already posted it!!!! SPAM!!!!! 😛
It looks like I'm not doing anything.
Who here can't afford Plus subscription and why? (Curiosity)
Well, that's very strange. You need to write to support. I just have never received a blocking, much less
It's really really good at hallucinating. I've had doubts a few times where it described pictures from my notes but it used the context + info in the notion link to figure it out
looks like it's just slowly being rolled out
in settings
So far, unfortunately, nothing is clear. So we just have to wait.
just gotta wait I guess
I was a plus member before, I didn't log in for about two weeks, and when I logged in again, the button to send messages turned gray and I couldn't send messages; After a few days, you can send a message, but after sending the message, it shows an error and no reply. How strange!
In my situation i was passing it a syslog output and it was calling out specific log line numbers and referencing things like my hostname
Where is this?
it's being rolled out over a week which is rolling out to all Plus users over the course of the next week.
you can try clearing site data and relogin
I wouldn't be normally able to afford but I decided to stay in my parent's basement instead of moving out so I save up on the rent...
if what you are saying is true, thats not hallucinations thats telepathy
Well it will probably be the same as with GPT-4. Gradually over several days.
there's some screenshots where it shows 30/hour
They seem to mostly be kids, or people from lower income countries.
One of the plugins most prob
I hope that limit change goes out soon. That mistake got me hyped.
same
Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com. What can I do about it? I am using chat gpt plus
Mistake?
do you have a product called NordVPN installed on your computer?
The previous historical messages are gone, and I can't find the button to upgrade plus
the nerd emoji is not allowed
why gpt always stop generate answers
disable the web protection feature and it will work again
plugins says beta for me now, not alpha
Thanks buddy
When they were updating the new UI, they left in a message that said gpt4 limit was 30 per hour, I assume they weren’t planning on doing that just yet and they took it out. But we saw, we know!
Oh annoying, why is this
Ah ok
Am I the only one who sees 3 tabs? "GPT-3.5" "GPT-4" and "Alpha"
Anyways, if not for these very specific things but calling out stuff like "On line 3145 you can see xxx yyy zzz" and when I look at line 3145 it is exactly what it is referring to. To me this just means the openai team is redirecting features from their all you can eat buffet via browser into they pay-per-use api to monetize GPT4.
I understand it, but just be honest with people
@manic dragon how much do you know about large language models?
Hi, excuse me?)
I guessed correctly, chatgpt would release plugin (likely this month) before bing does 🤣 though not that hard to derive
GPT is a Large Language Model - I'm wondering how familiar you are with the underlying tech. You're a developer right?
the inner-workings of how LLMs like ChatGPT aren't public 🫤
They are
Ya think all devs know about how LLMs work?
The architecture hasn't SIGNIFICANTLY changed.
how do you know?
No, I'm gauging some interest.
no one knows the inner magic 🤣 just the theory
@hasty egret I read a lot of papers.
I'm so hyped!
Yes, I'm more or less familiar. There are a lot of problems and questions in life and I don't get to fully immerse myself in it all. Only now I've got time to study everything related to artificial intelligence.
Let's end this. Search for "How ChatGPT Works Technically | ChatGPT Architecture" from Bytebytego on YouTube.
I can't wait to use plugins Ahhhhhhhh
@fickle gale cheers.
it's very likely the current architecture is not reflected in what was published.
@manic dragon want to play around with a system I'm working on?
it's like even if you read all papers on rocket, you still wouldn't be able to build one
found a pretty cool plugin just now, webpilot
Do you have access to plugins already? And what does webpilot does? 0_o
Will how complex modern stuff is I doubt one person alone can build anything revolutionary.
i have had plugin access for some time, but more plugins are showing up now
It's possible, but you need to get to know each other a little better 🙂
i know
Noted B)
I don't understand you 😄
it's so exciting seeing more pages show up on the store 🙂
I never learnt Ukrainian 😦
😦
this is a rather impressive plugin
@manic dragon so? Keen to play around with it?
it handles Q&A way better then what i built
what is going on..
@manic dragon I'm more interested in seeing how people interact for research.
Send me a message on Telegram, let's talk a little closer, and then we'll see 🙂
It has Telegram too. Hold up.
I can't wait for AWS plugin to come to ChatGPT. Imagine building enterprise grade products using just a prompt and AWS plugin. 🙂
zapier is on the plugins already
and super powerful
"Type 'perfect' to craft the perfect prompt, every time."
hmmm
it's openai so the expectations are high
I'm testing chatwithPDF now 
how come they changed the color? i dont have access to the plugins yet
how does it work for you
im gonna give it a super long pdf to test it
perfect prompt sucks in the two prompts i just gave it fwiw
I'll send a screenshot in #off-topic
for presentation?
wait.. ik about it, I have visited a site that shows how to install it, don't know much
I am building a discord bot and having trouble with what the parameter for the GPT4 model is
engine="text-davinci-003" is what I am currently using ... how would I update this to reflect GPT4?
u don't install it guy!!!
we can install unofficial plugins not from openai (I think)
Hi. I already have ChatGPT plus account and seems like no more waitlist registration are needed for chatgpt plus users.
Did you sign up for the 4 api and get access to it yet?
Yes I was sent an email that I received access this is why I was making the bot
When will I get web browsing and plugin version in my ChatGPT Plus account?
I guess I will have to cancel my subscription. This new update is simply awful. ChatGPT can't even differentiate between the number 3 and 5 anymore. I asked to create a tuple with 5 items, it created it with 3. I did the exact same thing before this update and it worked.
"rolling out to all Plus users over the course of the next week."
What use cases do y'all use for GPT that it seems better or the same after this update?
Code interpreter and wolfram alpha plug-ins coming within the week. However, I imagine you weren't actually going to cancel but wanted to vent and add some dramatic effect :p
Summarising research papers no noticeable difference. It's been about half an hour though, so no clue really
llms are historically not good at that, it's never been reliable for me on amount of things
No beta feature option is showing in my account setting. That's why, I'm asking. @fair iron
"rolling out to all Plus users over the course of the next week."
as the article says, "rolling out to all Plus users over the course of the next week."
i wish the mod team luck this week
Didn't notice that. Thanks
@ivory laurel - you mentioned that Code interpreter is coming next week? Was there a sign up or waiting list for this? Just curious.
again lol
you could always apply to join it 😏
Yes
i already have no free time
The cats already out of the bag with that 30 per hour cap. Just enable it devs, we all know about it, come on. I know you’re in here reading this.
There is a non mod called NekoMaid who does more mod work than any mod I've seen here 🤣
Neko Maid is a huge help to the community 🫶
How is it that I can input a bunch of text into gpt-3 and it accepts it, but gpt-4 complains about length?
I can actually give a concrete example.
This is my prompt:
"Create a list with a tuple inside. The tuple has 5 items, set the first two items to address. Set the last item to zip_code"
(below is a copy and paste of my code and example usage)
This is chatGPT4 reply:
"Sure, based on your request, you want to create a list with a tuple inside. The tuple should contain five items where the first two items should be parts of the address, and the last item should be a zip code. I am assuming that you want to split the address into two parts."
(modified the code)
- Did I say that the first two items should be parts of the address? No, I said literally the address.
- Did I say that the last item should be a zip code? No, I said literally zip_code
- Why is it assuming that I want to split the address into two parts? I don't, I didn't say that.
This is just awful... it can't follow basic instructions anymore
But PLUGINS gpt-4 doesn't complain either
The code interpreter isn't a plugin. Are you sure about that becoming available soon?
Ahhh
Wdym next week
The original plug-in blog post called the code interpreter and the browser first party plug-ins I think
Is that like a for sure thing
Yeah, they just posted it on their site.
May12th notes
I really need those plugins man
it's on their website: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6825453-chatgpt-release-notes
Yeah but they are still rolling it out, over a span of week or so - they mentioned it in the notes
if someone needs me, please ping me. I'm doing other things and am not watching this channel 
It's having a literal seizure. Website changes back and forth from new to old, gpt-4 can't read or understand anything, and plugins a querying random stuff that doesn't exist
It's inferring that "zip_code" means "Zip Code". A zip code is part of the address, so it's pretty confusing to be honest. Try putting literals in quotes like "zip_code" , and also try giving it an example of a list item. In other words, your prompt needs work.
my_tuple = ('123 Main St', 'Apt 4B', None, None, '90210')
# Create a list and add the tuple to it
my_list = [my_tuple]
# Print the list
print(my_list)
¯_(ツ)_/¯
And gpt- 4 with plugins having a limit is stupid. I have to regenerate like 10 times for one prompt because it has no clue what is happening
Here's some Python code that will fulfill your request:
# Create an empty list to store the tuple
my_list = []
# Create a tuple with 5 items, setting the first two items as the address and the last item as the zip code
my_tuple = ("123 Main St", "Apt 1", "New York", "NY", "10001")
# Append the tuple to the list
my_list.append(my_tuple)
# Print the list to verify the output
print(my_list)
Let me know if you have any other questions or if there's anything else I can help with!
Because I can't Discord soz.
Yeah it's a bad prompt
i agree
I'm not sure I understand the problem... it works?
indeed, prob prior context in the convo is causing issues.
so only limited code interpreter now
👍
If OP had just said "zip_code, which is a zip code" can almost 80% guaranteed marked performance increase. Although ofc we all bow to the prompt skills of webhead ❤️
i copied his prompt lmao
i was just showing standalone it works
sometimes if you have a lot of context history you have to prompt more effectively as it'll use previous data
... omg.
It's an ambiguous prompt - it has dual meaning without context. lol
Are we taking it literally?
it was a confusing prompt for sure
we have to think about how gpt4 takes it
Jonno wants me to reinterpret their previous code request literally, which means that they may not have wanted a tuple with 5 items, but rather a tuple with 2 items (address and zip code) inside a list....
`Sure thing, Jonno! Based on your latest message, I understand that you would like me to reinterpret the prompt literally. I apologize if my initial response didn't meet your expectations.
Just to clarify, you would like me to create a list with a tuple inside, where the tuple has 2 items - the address and the zip code. Is that correct? Let me know and I'll be happy to help you out with the updated code.`
for example on ops prompt
"Create a list with a tuple inside. The tuple has 5 items, set the first two items to address, the third and forth to "N/A". Set the last item to "zip_code" which is the zip code for the associated address."
would prob work more effectively
idk what they are doing with the data, i dont like using n/a
i usually make fake data if im doing charts/datasets with it
and then just replace
Can you tell exactly what happened?
It tries querying for things that don't exist, can't read text, doesn't obey, etc
I see but... I would like a specific example of that
If plugins will be rolled out next week should I subscribe again until Monday?
I inputted some text from a doc and asked it to parse it with a notebook plugin. It says there isn't anything to read, but tries querying anyways and gets back errors and then just stops.
The Chatgpt menu is back to normal again.
Now I have the old GUI/art again. Make up your mind OpenAI. lol
It kinda looked like Google Bard icon lol
If plugins will be rolled out next week should I subscribe again until Monday?
that's up to you, but the new features are for Plus users
Can someone explain plug-ins to me I've never used gpt 4 and I'm not a programmer yet.
So if I subscribe to plus next Monday I should get it
Someone said the cap is less sensitive, what did they mean
Probably referring to the 25per 3 hours
they already removed the conflicting 30 per hour text
@open flax providing tools that the GPT4 AI can use on its own. For example - here is a web browser, you can use it to surf the net in relation to serving the user's request.
Can It use yt ? Or insta or can it use a food delivery website /app?
There's a handy video demonstration available on OpenAI's blog https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt-plugins
Plugins plus prompt engineering most powerful ever
Definitely.
Sure I'll check that out .
Im so excited
Will the plug-ins that are being rolled out use GPT4?
over the course of the next week for chatGPT Plus users
but will they be using gpt3.5 or 4?
the website shows plugins below the GPT-4 dropdown menu
Is anyone having any issues submitting anything, either 3.5 or 4? I was wondering if there was an outage, but the website says it's all fine
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Gpt 4 icon was pink for few mins right?
Tried on my phone, my computer, different browsers, turned off VPN, logged out and back in, but still keep getting "something went wrong"
what browser are you using?
Edge, Safari, Chrome
is it happening on Safari?
All 3 on both devices
are you using a VPN?
I’ll buy it back tomorrow
Tried with and without VPN
Just to make sure
which VPN software do you have installed?
Nord
can you disable NordVPN web protection in settings for Nord?
Huh... I didn't think of that. It was working fine until this morning and that setting was on the whole time. Wonder why disabling it NOW fixed it
Thank you
because NordVPN software has a bug that prevents all page resources from loading, disabling it will fix the problem. It happens on both PC and Mac
That's good to know. Thanks again!
glad I could help 🙂
Believe it was purple but ye
Yeah, and some stars appeared as well at the top where model is located
anyone receive those juicy benefits yet?
im waiting with baited breath
to peruse the internet with my hot ai babe overcoming obstacles into the sunset
Does anyone know about the ChatGPT app, Monica?
yeah exactly.
It was pink ig
I thought I got plugins access but there was absolutely nothing
Sorry for the basic question, but how do I apply for plugins? How long does it take to get the access?
soon or never
My subscription is expiring today and i didn't even get the chance to use any plugins, i applied for it on the first day. Nothing
is there a thing such as gpt 5? or going to be?
not in the near future, most likely not this year
it says "All ChatGPT Plus users can now access plugins without a waitlist." in the website. Yet, I still don't have plugins! And yes I have Plus
So the update came out today and plugins appeared in a test version. (for Plus subscribers)
Now it remains only to wait until everyone has it.
and will gpt 4 at some point become free? like next year or smth?
Perfect
How long do you think the wait is?
I can't use them, im a plus user
I don't think GPT-4 will be free, it requires too much in the way of server resources to be free
Will Minecraft java become free?
Me too, it says that within a week access will be provided to all Plus subscribers.
😭 can there be exception for the poor
hopefully :))
lmao and my subscription is ending today 😄
xD
I mainly purchased it to use plugins and get early access or something
But guess what. They never replied to me
No one has answered me yet either.
sad
u have lot's of Alternative options. Use bing
bing moment :kek:
should I buy gpt plus.
Where can i find "Profile and Settings" ?
if you can't find the new features, you don't have them yet
I don't have them either
they said they'd roll it out over the next week
If you are a ChatGPT Plus user, enjoy early access to experimental new features, which may change during development.
Okay she's lying
Did the blog/release notes mention that? NO
wjere
bro the second sentence
"We’ll be making these features accessible via a new beta panel in your settings, which is rolling out to all Plus users over the course of the next week."
dude
BROWSING HAS A CAP TOO???
that's... bruh moment
you guys are getting browsing?
New toggle in settings
obv.
I was doing a meme
dude I've been waiting for plugins access for almost 2 months
you're too lazy if you're managing your emails, ordering food, and shopping through gpt
Almost two months for me too
and still waiting
and still waiting
Hit the message cap. Got booted out of the Code Interpreter. I'm not a happy camper.
Reverted to GPT-3.5
I'm curious how the heck did the youtubers with 100subs got access to it on the first day or week
I was hoping that it would use Code Interpreter with GPT-3.5, but no...
The Wolfram Alpha plugin is the only one that I find useful. But I've been really addicted to the Code Interpreter lately. It's pretty incredible.
It's tied to GPT-4 now, though. So it's also tied to a message cap. Really upset about this.
It only supports python tho
e
python is still quite good language to learn how to program... even in its current state as I don't have plugin access... it has taught me quite a bit
looks like OpenAI got updated 😁
are there any gptplus users that havent got plugins yet?
yeah thank god im not alone
according to their information plus users get beta features soon
they are rolling them out
noticed that indeed... model got updated today
"ChatGPT may produce inaccurate information about people, places, or facts. ChatGPT May 12 Version"
May 12 version seems to have been tweaked way too far
Well ive heard and seen screenshots of this new ui update but have not seen anything at all yet. tried refreshing and clearing cache and nothings updated for me...
it's not actually producing any responses, just explaining why it is struggling with things
what do u mean?
you can click the link under "send a message" box and it brings you to article what has changed
any previous version, same prompt = I get output of what I'm trying to do
this one, the output is just 'wow this is hard, here's some explanation, I can't do it though'
under the "send a message" box???
:/
"If you are a ChatGPT Plus user, enjoy early access to experimental new features, which may change during development. We’ll be making these features accessible via a new beta panel in your settings, which is rolling out to all Plus users over the course of the next week."
yeah if you have paid account
i do.
so as they state... they roll it out... just have to be patient
Got plugins and browsing within the last two days
was temp turned way the heck up??
OHH dude i did not see the "over the course of the next week"
LOL
Everyone's been waiting. Patience is a virtue 👍
yeah
Dayum
Tis for sure. i just didnt see the timeline. I thought everyone got it and I didn't lol
i was asking “can i even take a frickin bath”
If you feel like thats not enough, you can try signing up for the waitlist. My advice is to say you're a developer, and link your Twitter and GitHub. Then add some random garbage for the details.
I got mine a couple days after doing so
That is what i did. I signed up for the waitlist. Then waited for a whole month
Yea i did apply for waitlist about a week or two ago.
It might not even matter now with the new announcement.
yea exactly
When?
If it was a while ago, and you didn't get a confirmation email, I don't think you were on the list.
I applied around a month ago. I didn't get a reply after waiting for a week, so i reapplied. But never got any reply. you're one of the lucky ones
ooo interface updated for me
Damn
Yeah its nice.
And then changed it back to black
OMG i thought the same, you are damn correct.
But yeah we didnt get access
no
Its all aesthetics
yes
It's purple now
Let me reload the site real quick
Yeah you might need a refresh.
under "plugins enabled", its not loading any of the options though 🤔
they dont let up send screen shots
DM a screenshot
as I indicated
people make screenshots
it helps distinguish models then
but not sure why change GPT-4 when it already was some color, unless its different? ( maybe they just didnt like it 😄 )
What the hell?! It's purple again?!
it's good faith to read what I say before replying
It went from black to purple.
Yes, now its purple
Black was much better, i don't like purple
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me still waiting for api access 
Yea sir it’s called a mistake
Yes they changed it to purple again
Why did they make purple
All looks man
Black was better for eyes
What?!
I find purple to be pretty slick
I dont think they care about the eyes 😄
Same I like it!
Just my opinion
This is true tho!
Bruh how is purple bad for your eyes. it's just a 100x100 icon
this version is horrendous
I prolly think they'll change it to black again
u could make an extension that changes the color for you?
just outright ignoring instructions that were adhered to in past versions
ive been making tons of chrome extensions since i started coding with got
gpt*
sagiv give an example. let me see
😔
?
Nothing
I can't post anything but is like
create a markdown table from the data
exclude any explanations, instructions etc
at most before it would say 'sure, here it is'
now it gives me a huge block of text and doesn't do it
it provides its internal instructions but not the actual response
Damn I still didn’t get the beta after being on the waitlist for like 2 months
Rip, just gotta keep waiting ig
rolling out over the next week
Thanks babe
Rolling out only for plus users right? Or is it for everyone
Plus users
Thanks again babe
hi guuys! whats up
btw if it comes out next week, then what exactly does the may 12th update do (besides change the color to purple)
if you're a Plus user you will get Plugins and Browsing by enabling a Beta toggle in your settings
Go ask gpt
the update is rolling out from today, some people already have it
Ahhhh
why isnt the plugins loading? i press "no plugins enabled" and none of them load
although today for me is the 13th May 🙂
my plugins are stuck on "loading..."
Got it too but stuck at Loading too
thank god im not the only one
Ig that's what they mean by roll out over the week
Stuck in the future or stuck in the past? April is pretty far away at this point.
I meant May 🙂
Lol, just kidding. Nice, timezones then I assume.
Fairly interesting thing happening in two different GTP-4 chats. The chatbot has started to spell a particular word into the spelling as if it were spoken. The bot hasnt done this before. (not a english word)
Oh damn new update?? It looks like I have access to the web browsing thing, but not plugins. Are plugins being rolled out to everyone now too? Or only web browsing
Everyone with Plus over the week.
what word
In english "maybe". The word was "kanske" the bot spelled it "kansjé" which is in no way a swedish word, or a way in which a swedish person would ever ever ever spell it/type it in writing
lol
what did the new update change?
ah thanks - is it normal I don't see the beta features?
oh nvm i see roll out over next week
yes, it's rolling out over one week
we say kanskje in norwegian and shorten it like that because we are sort of lax on a "correct" norwegian, but we dont add that dot over the e.. so idk
its just informality tho
Why aren't any plugins loading after I've enabled them?
did gpt4 just got its message count restriction removed?
Right, the entire text is flawless, so if it were some norwegian in there I would have noticed. Except for this spelling that looks like its taken from some Slavic language. Very interesting.
I have "GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours."
nevermind then i guess :/
Just tried and not working
Logging out then logging back in won't speed up the new features, they're being rolled out over one week
Are chat gpt plugins not working atm?
works for me
Are they changing the gpt 4 model too?
I liked the black color for GPT-4, but purple looks nice too. Green was pretty bad.
purple looks sick
which plugin?
wolfram
how an I search posts I sent (across channels) on discord.
black and white logo gave an advanced model feel
ok that one worked for me too
I just got access to plugin, but the plugin store option is not showing and plugins drop down not loading. Does anyone else have this problem?
mine did the same just wait for a little while or close and reopen
Yeah
me too,
green looks more friendly but also less professional
How do you know if you have gained access to plugins? Will the options be located in the settings panel?
you get a email
LETS GOOO!!
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FINALLY
ITS TIME
e
lmao
A consequence of censoring the model
it's morbin time
Oh no, they're letting it onto the Internet
🥳 heck yeah
my answer just came from announcements
LETS GOOO
Is the plugin selector stuck on loading for anyone else?
how do i bypass phone verefication idh phone number
Better than BingGPT?
lol true but people ask this like every other minute here
get phone number ez
haha
bing chat sucks compared to real chatgpt
Hell yeah I can finally have a personal assistant in my desktop
with GPT-4, probably
SHEEEESH
yea it got nerfed hard
will I be able to send a website that has an entire book written on it and ask chatGPT to summarize it?
dont eaven have a phone
is anything known about when 4 or plugins will be given to waitlist people?
what is happening?
crazyyy
It's not long before the AI starts posting its opinion on twitter, on twitter
they should swap out cortana for gpt
its a rollout tho, over the next week so not everyone has access yet
Lesgooo I can finally use chatgpt in real time data
go buy one 🫠
why is gpt-4 purple/pink for me??
I'm a ChatGPT user but I can't find the plugins tab in the settings.
its not added to mine is it a matter of time ?
already happening
Y?
will wolfram be available
they said its rolling out over the week
i was going to ask the same 💀
whoops, got it
BUIAAAA
it looks cool tho
cant wait to create a twitter bot to spread misinformation
plugins lagging
damn
please include visual input as a plugin

its fancy!
ye but in the old chats with gpt4 it remains black
Why don't I have that Beta settings tab? Shouldn't all Plus users have it?
the fbi is already doing that lol
over the next week.
not for me lol, its also like that in old chats
it's rolling out over the next week
you didnt apply ?
i know. i am the fbi
bro they said its for chatgpt plus (paid users)
i have the beta section + plugins atm


