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fooled indeed
This plugin can also use OpenAI API to provide translation services or directly call ChatGPT Plus to translate, but the latter is obviously much slower
The translation ability of GPT-3.5 is indeed very powerful, but it is a pity that sometimes it will unconsciously add its reply to the original sentence to the translation result, and it will not change after repeated teaching, unless I add a reminder in front of each sentence
Immersive Translate
interesting, but that sounds like something that can be solved with fine tuning
Oh, I have written many versions of the prompt words, but the effect is always mediocre. I really don't want to type the prompt before every sentence, even if I copy and paste it. Because it's fine once or twice, but it's exhausting to repeat.
You are a life saver, Can confirm, same issue, Works in Firefox, not brave (currently.)
Interesting, someone added the GPT-4 API interface to Galgame
I set temp to 0.2 and incremented it from there and it still gives me random nonsense even though I feed the current time haha
GPT-4 is handling it just fine
Are they going to increase the message limit for gpt-4 since legacy 3.5 is gone?
if you don't mind sending the messages, I can try to help =)
25 messages even after months of gpt 4 release is crazy
Sometimes, the conversation is longer, and even GPT-4 will be confused (for example, some things I requested are missing in the output)
i don't think there are much correlation between those two things tho
yeah i wish they would remove the usage cap since they removed 3.5 legacy
I cut off how much context I feed it.
un momento, is it okay to ping you in API discussions? Seems more appropriate there :D
sure, please do
That's really weird
barely no one used legacy so it has no significant effect on anything
it still has a limited context, double of what 3.5 has, but still, not infinite
i only used gpt-4 and 3.5 legacy for programming because they are both a lot better than 3.5 turbo
and i suspect a lot of other people have the same experience
it is normal, any model will "forget" things that are too far on the chat history
because it is literally not present anymore on the data the AI has about the conversation
legacy was behind plus and it was not available in api so the usage was insignificant, most likely less than 1% of global usage
Speed seems a bit improved now compared to past 18 or so hours
A multi-eyed monster in the form of a muscular giant
So it's better to urge Nvidia to hurry up and fulfill their promise of dedicated graphics cards for large language models
Is anyone else getting the error "failed to fetch user settings"?
yeah im sure it doesn't have too many users but its just dissapointing that now my Plus experience is so much worse for programming problems. Turbo doesn't understand my problems nearly as well as the other 2 models. Ideally GPT-4 would get the usage caps removed because it blows both legacy and turbo 3.5 out of the water for programming tasks
This is a chat room, you are in the wrong place
I'd even be willing to pay so much more money for a Plus chatgpt subscription that doesn't have GPT-4 usage caps. I guess I could use the API but its nice to pay a fixed cost every month
and not have to count/worry about tokens
Unfortunately, I've almost spent my conversation count...
higher usage tier sub is coming or its included in the business subs
Uwu my pleasure
That will cause OpenAI to be more afraid of web page reverse engineering. If someone wants to, they can use unlimited dialogue to do something
Ok, it's not just me
How can you do that?
Oh oh oh no! I also encountered this problem!
The error message is like an avalanche
I'll be straight, you have to use it A LOT to get past $20 in API usage.
hmm really? might be worth checking out then. Are there any good frontends for it? stuff that works for programming?
You mean wrappers?
Anyone here getting the user settings error
yeah just something i can paste my api key into and get a chat gpt like experience
Seems new
Oh I see. I'm sure there are some but we can't really promote third party tools like that since your API key is sensitive.
You could always use playground though
'All Systems Operational' lol
Though I lowkey want to make a simple tkinter gui now
Looks like OpenAI doesn't know what's going on yet
Hey! Quick question: I joined the "Plugins" waitlist a bit ago. How long should I expect to wait until I get access to them? I assume there's probably a bunch of demand and at this point it probably takes less time to wait until the full release, but I'm curious how much time it has taken other people to have access.
I think it's up to you to tell them what you want to do with the plugin or if you're an early plugin developer
I applied on the afternoon of the second day after the plugin was launched, and there is no response until today
on gpt4
i see people complaining here about the 25 message cap, if you do that with any sort of context you'll burn through money on gpt4 api
Where do we find plugins / how do we use them? I know they got released but I havent seen anything on them since
Doesn't matter, I don't use a lot and don't need a long context
im getting Failed to fetch user settings
i went through 60 last month
Thanks for the answer! I applied a few days ago myself so I'll assume I won't get access for a while
i think almost everyone does
you hacked into my account?
how did you know?
😭
i do test a lot of projects though so
Many people have complained
¯_(ツ)_/¯
including me
The error message is like an avalanche
I guess it depends on how much you use it.
It is not easy for people who use a small amount of conversations, but once the limit is reached, it will be extremely painful, as if rejected by the world (laughs)
Me too. I got “failed to fetch user setting”. I thought it was Text Blaze that caused the problem!
Its happening to a bunch of people
Hey huys. Is there any way to implement free chatgpt chat on my own website ? Like, a bar hanging there to "try" the feature?
If you still have free API quota, you can try to generate an API key, but I don't recommend you to do this without paying, it may cause the official to think that you are abusing the API and seal your account
sure if you pay for the api
thats a good advice
thank you for that. Its a simple thing to do?
You can go to Youtube to watch the instructional video
ok thanks
does the gpt-4 API seem slow to anybody else right now?
It seems like it could be done all the tech is there, just has to be combined
Yes, the gpt-4 API seems slow to many people at the moment.
it is slower than usual today indeed
SlowGPT
it is not turbo
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When will plugin be available tho?
ya, dat have a different BPM
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My account says that it was blocked, I am trying to find the support team email or something as I am trying to get it unblocked, I believe that it was a simple misunderstanding, I was trying to get a translation for something and ChatGPT really didn't like it apparently
When will the plug-in be publicly available
#ReleaseThePlugins
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Not really when the primary use is gpt-4. Especially when I have summarisation tasks.
chatgpt is done rn right? or is my thing jus broke rn
Your thing is broke rn
well shoot
Tell me, I did it through the curl bot, but he does not remember his previous words, how can I fix it?
Great, ChatGPT4 is taking too many requests
same error on my end :p
;(
I just got access to the plugins but I have some questions on how to use them. Who could help?
Guys please stop using chat gpt I need to read the end of the fan fic
Pretty sure you cant
To me GPT-3.5 feels braindead after using GPT-4 for a while
Relatable
is me or chatgbt 4 is down
also sometimes I like the human speed of GPT-4 even though that may not be intentional, and sometimes I don't
How does one acquire access to the plugins?
So is it impossible or is it possible?
It's a human, we all have a personal GPT employee
GPT4 says "We're currently processing too many requests. Please try again later."
sign up for their waiting list
it's down again!
yeah same...
Thank you!
hope thjey do not decrease the 25 message quota
I would die
50 would be enough for me
25 is nothing they better increase not decrese it
or at least make it 2 hours or 1 hour
Would plugins be able to provide the model a more up to date information?
since 2021 is starting to show its age...badly
There's a google plugin
Especially for coding
gpt 4 is down
yeah it is showing it age when I asked a question for microsoft al for business central
How am I supposed to do my fiverr projects now, whaat
LOL
finally i can sleep
its 2pm
anyone else getting "We're currently processing too many requests. Please try again later." on GPT4 only?
everyone
Sorta weird considering we literally pay for this no?
its down like a clown
I came here looking for the same thing. Chatgpt got everyone to do something they would never do
not enough
download microsoft edge
I already have access to bing's AI but I prefer GPT-4 a bit better
i need to pay my doubts
me too having the same problem
Bing ai is gpt 4
I think it's just down
lol ok, well one of the things they are advertising is constant access, irrelevant of how many people or "requests" they are processing. So I think I'm right in thinking that is' weird
pretty sure bing uses the standard model
But the language model is different right?
the training data is different
Yes
are you sure?
No, it's the same gpt4, bing can use bing searches though, so it is realtime
it doesn't have the same understanding as GPT4 and reasonsing from my use
Chat gpt is advance
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it's the same model, you can look it up. The config is different, temperature and initial system message are different
is gpt-4 down
seems so
We're currently processing too many requests. Please try again later.
I see thanks for clarifying and the link
yes, gpt-4 is down. and they should offer some sort of token pack or something in excahnge
thanks
Yep me too
Omg omg chat4pt is not working for me, am I like the one ???
||jk I can actually read a chat before typing||
@compact kayak ?
Is the paid version of chatgpt the same as the one on Bing?
It's down
this chat is filled with all sorts of different topics. why would you assume that somebody is going to scroll through in hopes of finding the topic they want to discuss?
We're currently processing too many requests. Please try again later.
this isn't reddit
No not really. I think the paid ChatGPT is much better
🙏
GPT4 is better at responses. But I find Bing is much much better at citations haha
No, I prefer the paid version. It’s definitely better. Sometimes I’ll use both simultaneously to tweak things, but the paid chat is worth it
Anyone else getting "We're currently processing too many requests. Please try again later."
I noticed Legacy 3.5 is gone
Yes
today, only 3.5 default and 4, they did something today
Thanks
yes
I keep hearing the same things but dont know the difference. Feels like the output config is just different - one is smaller on Bing and the other is on larger
Killed legacy?
seems so, it's not on my dropdowns anymore
Hi, good day. I bought ChatGPT Plus today I wasn't able to send images to GPT-4 or to GPT-4 generate images for me. It's normal?
Same they did say it was to be depreciated soon
Yeah thats normal. You can only send or use images with API
been on a plus a while, asked to be listed for this feature multiple times, still don't have it, is not rolled out for everyone
Text only
Yesterday was the last day to use the legacy version
ooh okay! thanks!
Ok, thank you guys
any idea how long "We're currently processing too many requests. Please try again later." usually takes?
Usually only a few minutes
awesome, thanks
no one knows, don't think anyone here works for OpenAI, all are volunteers
varies, last outage was about 6 hours
interesting
oh snap. Okay, just trying to plan for it. I just started using it yesterday. So much to learn, its exciting.
Hi everyone ! Receiving this message "We're currently processing too many requests. Please try again later" while i'm paying for chatgptplus any ideas to solve that problem ?
3.5 working fine
Someone here has gotta work for them if this is the official dicord? Also welcome @sly grotto I use it every day lol, google is right to be worried
gtp-4 down so just wait
ty, an idea for how many times it gonna takes ?
I wish i could move my conversation to another version.
idk but i think they started to fixing so its should be soon
keep regenerating until it will offer you the option to downgrade
I feel u, had to restart a prompt on a very long covo I use for assignments
@floral topaz oh thats cool, ill try that. thanks
"PAIN"
truth, haha
is gpt4 down
seems that gtp4 is back for me but only on new conv
it's alive now for prev convo
👍
ye
Yay, that was quick.
delet this
No
Hey, has anyone found success using GPT4 API or ChatGPT for academic research? I may have an opportunity to present the uses and implications of AI in research to a few research scientists. I'm trying to put together examples and information that would help show off how they can use AI right now. Any advice or resources would be greatly appreciated!
Anyone else feel that GPT-4 has been better in this latest update of May 3 version.
hard to gauge this, been the same more or less for me
Yeah same for me, but i can feel a little bit more creativity in the responses, not sure how and why

Try searching for an app that uses GPT4, but allows it to connect to google to do this task for you. I know one app but moderation wont allow me to say which one that is ....
where tf is the legacy model ?
actually have used it specifically in getting sources for a given topic and maybe an outline, its honestly a great way to get started.
It's gone forever
discontinued after may 10th
Yup, i liked Legacy too
What was their reason to remove it?
How so? Legacy just seemed like a slower version of 3.5 which it kinda was
It was very old i guess
Legacy was pretty fast yeah
hmm sad
interesting I thought it was slower than standard welp i guess i cant cross check anymore
i have never used standard so im not sure
legacy is kinda dumb compared to the other two though
ohh really ?
Hello, has someone experienced and account termination ? It is an error and I can not find any link where I can request the reactivation of my GPT4subscribtion.
i thought the satandars one was the dumbest one
I'd say so, legacy is a chimpanzee to gpt4.. well smarter chimpanzee
standard*
yeah i know gpt4 is way more smart but i thought that legacy was better than standard
not just faster but also better
Is it working well right now?
Why’s it saying 'working' in a light green box and shows code
/queen
im so spoiled from gpt4 i hate when my 25 messages are up. like bro ill pay 100 dollars a month for unlimited messages whatever it takes, i cant go back to garbo 3.5
Can't you use the api instead?
i have no idea how to get an api or use it. i dont have experience with python.
/question
I do feel the same, atleast they have to make 50 messages for 3 hours - 25 is way to less
why did openai charge me 24$ instead of 20$? :DDDDDDD
taxes?
Are you from US?
is it working well guys?
all previous months it was 20, and im not in the US
you don't need to use it programaticaly. There's a "playground" on the openai site where you can use it like chat. But there's still a waitlist
For me is not
certain taxes like vat don't need to be collected in different countries until you hit x revenue and plus is pretty new product
that sounds cool. but i still dont know how to find the playground or where to apply for the api. i tried have gpt explain it to me but it is still stuck in 2021 and doesnt even realize it is gpt4 lol.
and payment provider fees
this is my 3rd payment for chatgpt plus
first time overcharging
which country are you in? $24 sounds like 23% vat
also you can download the invoice pdf which will show it
step up your game, OPEN AI, im not paying 20 per month to have all these limitations with using gpt-4 , and then not even have access to plugins , Why wouldnt i just use BARD, Atleast give us unlimited access to gpt-4
cant even finish a project cause every 15min or so of convo i get capped for 3 hours
It is what it is
lol use 3.5?
Then don't pay $20 monthly, use GPT 3.5 which is free
lol, try starting with 4 then go to 3.5 , its clear gpt4 is much smarter
plus im in the middle of a project, you cannot switch it to 3.5 while maintaining the same level of help
git gud then?
if you want to go around in circles use 3.5 , i mainly use for programing
i bought it just because it's cool lol
you should really be learning to code without gpt silly....youre essentially a script kiddie
sucks i cant get access to plugins :/
Lmao, truth is spoken
so theres no access to plugins even if you get gpt plus?
Nope
You have to join waitlist
but that could take forever
I know, its taking forever for me already
wait someone said Bard is available? if theres plugins maybe ill look into that
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How do we utilize plugins? I saw they announced it but dont see a place to add plugins or use them?
I remember OpenAI's lies about "Expect lower cap next week as we adjust for demand" for GPT4 lolololol.
This was in March btw. MARCH.
in fairness
openai is seeing a growth no other company ever has
with the scale of hardware they need
no doubt about that but there's no need to lie to their customers who hand their money to them
I joined the waitlist on april 20th but no gpt4 key yet. granted I do not have the chatgpt plus service. Is that why my wait time is longer?
ok
Do you think OpenAI has intentionally been slowing down releases to calm down the AI risk panic with the 6 month letter and all?
Because that panic happened after they released GPT-4, Plugins, and Code Interpreter within a very short time span.
Or maybe they just have trouble scaling at their massive level of growth. I have no idea.
I'm a subscriber and I've been using GPT-4 to generate summaries of studies from links, which has been extremely beneficial. However, for the past few days, I've been experiencing an issue where the system switches to GPT-3. Even when I inquire about it, it claims to be GPT-4 but no longer provides me with summaries from links, stating that it is incapable of doing so. Then, when I ask about the version again, it reverts to stating it's GPT-3. This situation is highly frustrating.
Has anyone gone through this here to help me resolve?
You're wait time is not longer or shorter, the waitlist just takes a long time usually.
it took me more then a month to get api access
and I am a plus subscriber
It's never been able to grab links unless you had the internet model.
Gpt4 is unaware it's gpt4.
Thanks been wondering
Okay, if you're right, he simulated very well having read the links and even replied as follows: "According to the link you passed...", or "I couldn't find what you're looking for in the link.." and many cases bringing summaries. I'm not an expert in depth, just another common user. If he didn't read it, he only simulated it, he fooled me perfectly. I also didn't know that GPT-4 doesn't know it's GPT-4.
Agreed. It's balancing context better.
Are you sure GPT4 is unaware of itself? When's the last time you tested?
That seems to be changing for me and I can call it GPT4 now and it knows I'm addressing it.
At first, I agree -- It wasn't aware GPT4 is released and referred to it as a "hypothetical model", now it stops complaining about that and operates if its released.
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it's still an llm and will respond differently at times.
i asked it two different ways and got two different answers
just now
GPT-4 still has the same knowledge cutoff as the previous models, as seen on https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4 (This cutoff being September 2021)
As a result, it isn't aware of its own release or existence. You can inform it, but it's not knowledgeable on it to start with
Why didn't they release GPT-4 with 2023 knowledge
It would make much more sense, since its a newer model
The browsing models allows for updated information! The main issue with making an up to date model is you'd need realtime filtering of 'bad data', along with biases and misinformation, which is kinda impossible for now 😅
Ok well 60 days ago the response to this was pretty consistently about hypothetical models and a standard canned response about GPT4, but now it responds hello every time... so I definitely see a difference 🤔
User:
GPT4, say hello
ChatGPT:
Hello! How can I assist you today?
Based on context, it likely understood that you were referring to it as GPT-4. It is aware of its own knowledge cutoff and the current date
have anyone noticed that opening the plugin store in the chatgpt website then closing it will cause high cpu usage within the web page?
Try a fresh conversation, asking when GPT-4 was released, or try asking it to say hello as if it were GPT-5 (which does not currently exist)
Maybe due to scripts running on the client side, interesting though 🧐
so want to share this, it does sometimes know
seems pretty unoptimized🤔
i just asked it three times, two times got the 2021 cutoff excuse
this last time i got this, brand new convo
GPT-4, or Generative Pre-trained Transformer 4, is a state-of-the-art artificial intelligence model for natural language understanding and generation. It is an advanced version of its predecessor, GPT-3, and is developed by OpenAI. GPT-4 is built on the transformer architecture, which is a type of deep learning model designed to handle a variety of tasks, including machine translation, question-answering, and text summarization.
GPT-4 is trained on a large corpus of text from the internet and can generate human-like text by predicting the next word in a given sequence. It is capable of understanding context and can engage in conversation, answer questions, or provide recommendations based on the input it receives.
As an AI language model, GPT-4 has been used in various applications, including chatbots, content generation, virtual assistants, and more. It is important to note that, as an AI model, GPT-4 has its limitations, and its knowledge is based on the training data it has been exposed to, with a knowledge cutoff in September 2021.
i have zero scripts, no plugins, nothing
Well sure, if I give direct context, it'll give me the canned response we expect. I think it's... considering it less as a high context variable when used or something.
But you're right, that doesn't directly translate into awareness of self, probably a bad call on my part to relate it to that.
system message seems the most likely to me
It definitely used to complain when I called it GPT4 before, LOL
they may have added it to the system due to that
GPT = fine. GPT4= offended, canned script 😄
I asked GPT 4 for a pickup line it gave me but GPT 3 didn't
yep i asked it a few questions and threw it off
Interesting, a lot of the information within this output seems generic though, maybe a hallucination? Either that or system message as the two of you mentioned
Btw, #1050184247920562316 would be the best place for this sort of thing (and then linking the message back here) as to not clutter chat. I won't be deleting your message but just letting you know for future reference 🙂
it thinks its gpt3 still
when it first released to chatgpt plus users, they didn't include the gpt4 info within the system message, and everyone is asking if its really gpt4
GPT-4 just told me to use it to plagiarize text by pasting it into it when I asked it for a list of features 💀
- Paraphrasing: I can rephrase text to convey the same meaning with different words, which can be useful for improving readability or avoiding plagiarism.
you can call it Bob, and it will still say hello
User
How do you know about gpt4, it came out after 2021
ChatGPT
I apologize for any confusion, but as an AI model based on OpenAI's GPT-3 and with a knowledge cutoff in September 2021, I don't have direct knowledge or information about developments such as GPT-4 or other advancements that have taken place since my last training data. I can't learn or know about events, technologies, or information that have come into existence after this time.
The ability for me to refer to GPT-4 in our conversation is based on the context of your questions. Given that GPT-1, 2, and 3 exist, it's a reasonable inference to discuss a hypothetical GPT-4 in the context of those existing models. However, I don't have specific information about a real GPT-4, if it does exist after my knowledge cutoff.
For the most accurate and up-to-date information about GPT-4 or any other recent AI developments, please refer to the latest releases and publications from OpenAI or reputable news sources in the field of AI.
ah yeah good point kesku, will move on 🙂
LOL yes. But that doesn't change that 60 days ago, if I called it GPT4 I got canned script and if I called it bob I didn't. It's weighting of context is getting better.
OR someone directly changed the programming to weight it less, I'm far to dumb to spot which 😄
I am curious of the constant training, i have noticed minor differences recently
in how my existing responses work on my api related things for gpt4
its really intresting
Guys is this not pretty problematic? Encouraging unethical use when asked to provide a list of features?
the beauty of llms
it tells you what you prompt it basically
I just asked it to list what complex tasks it could perform though
on that note it saddens me how many people in here are here to cheat on homework 🪦
with no previous convo
That is quite odd, especially since you didn't specifically ask for such information 🧐
If you get a chance, maybe forward your findings to the form at https://openai.com/form/model-behavior-feedback
GPT 4 has less limitations
I will do that, thnx
Thank you very much!
saving that link
I'm not exactly sure "avoiding plagarism" is unethical in itself
it's amazing how moldable gpt4 is to your use case with system instructions
i made it as a proof of concept read a modmail and categorize it for me
I think you might be identifying some emotions to the statement that weren't there. Sorry if that's rude to say, I don't mean any judgement i the statement.
In PhD college level classes, you generally get at least one entire class, sometimes more, on how to provide scientific value without plagiarizing those that came before you. One of my classes was actually CALLED "Avoiding Plagarism"
👀 semantic analysis?
just been doing lots of fun proof of concept ideas
yep, it works as an automod pretty effectively too
makes pretty good decisions
i don't let it make any actual changes, but been playing with it
Agreed, it does vary and context does matter for this sort of thing! Always best to forward anything that looks suspicious to the appropriate team at OpenAI though
They may find no issue with the gen, or they may find it can lead to something malicious
That does sound cool, kind of like Discord's new OpenAI-based automod
i have a fully 'working' reddit automod i built with gpt4 lmao
except i don't allow it to make actions, it just displays what it thinks should be done
agreed, and 100% a good call. More just adding value and hopefully provoking thoughtful conversation.
Thanks for all the good work you do @sweet thistle ❤️
i can't do the same in discord, i take privacy serious on my users and won't let it scan messages 🙂
even if it's "open" they aren't agreeing to send everything to be stored on openai servers lol
please help me i want use chat gpt but i have "Oops, an error occurred!" before load my page....
Totally fair, balancing privacy and convenience when using this sort of thing is important!
Have you tried GPT-4 with some test conversations or just singular messages when doing this?
yep
i tried the discord variant with some friends
but the reddit one is far easier to implement as the rules section is api grabbable, as well as post context and comments
Ah yeah that is fair
Idk, suggesting to use paraphrasing to avoid plagiarism reads as unethical to me but I see your point
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i am considering rebuilding the reddit one with langchain and putting it on github, as it could be useful for someone
the raw api call is somewhat ineffective
Especially because it suggests it would paraphrase a text that would otherwise be plagiarizing, aka you still plagiarize it just with a layer of AI inbetween
Maybe slide it into #1037561385070112779 too 
once i move and have more time to test my home assistant langchain i will put that in there
its actually hilarious
gpt4 if it can't determine what light sometimes just turns all the lights on
its so impractical
but it adds a bit of charm
Could be interesting to make use of something like langchain with maybe the turbo model, idk 
This sounds very interesting .. I didn't even know it existed.
yeah the turbo model works pretty well on the home assistant one as long as you get the friendly device name right
if you don't 😅
i've been on the "what would i have dreamed of 10 years ago that's now possible, even if impractical" with this
I imagine image recognition may be of use in this sort of thing when publicly available
yes, image would be helpful
right now i roll my own solution for that but its' pretty janky
I'd love to just use passthrough on my Varjo headset and use GPT-4 as a personal assistant in AR 😆
Is this a GPT thing or an API thing? I've had a lot of disappointment with the maturity of smart home tech in 2023 lately, every thing I look at seems like it was put together with sticks and gum
Clyde and the new Automod are both pretty cool! OpenAI's services have been very helpful in all sorts of places 😄
home assistant is great
its more gpt not identifying my light list and figuring out what i mean based on the input list
if i wanted to not release this and make it just for me i'd hardcode better friendly names
but im having it pull the list from homeassistant every time
Ahh ok yeah that makes sense. And thanks for the breadcrumb on Home assistant.
home assistant basically takes all the ecosystems and gives you full (very complicated, at times) control
but once setup its easy 🙂
Decently structured restful API?
So cool, you are the man. Thanks my dude. I've got my Saturday focus session booked to explore it. Thanks 🤘
cant link it here, but google home assistant api, they got good documentation
Or woman, apologies if misgender! ❤️
its a pretty cool concept to play with an ai model against
because for a home assistant, if you hook it up to an internet search you basically have a google home on steriods
Yeah I bet an older model could easily handle it too, if you give it clean data (like you mentioned with friendly names)
i think the hard part is splitting up the system instructions better, i really should do that
i am curious kesku, what about you - what do you use gpt 4 for
Just a tip: if you would like others to use specific pronouns when communicating with you, there are pronoun roles available in #server-roles 😄
i am curious about what one of my roles means, but i'm just not going to ask
ProTip thx. Added my roles.
I've been tinkering with it on a private server for my own stuff in relation to discord bots and semi-automated modmail haha
Beyond that, I've mostly been trying out the browsing models
i cannot wait to try those
LOL you are avocado role @tardy heart
yeah im not sure what that is 😂
Don't ask questions... just accept what you are, now 😄 This is your life.
Role for members who were here before the server revamp!
jealousy increases, narrowing eyes
it means you were in the server before it was overhauled last November. I have one too 😉
Oh! I've also been making use of the better context of GPT-4 to make my LaTeX documentation stuff a faster job
I've been using the 8K model, and I've been able to show samples of how I structure all my LaTeX so the model can follow it on any other inputs I give
aand we're back from a mute
still trying to memorize what times me out here
the browsing model looks fun, i've built my own attempt at it in python using spacy and beautifulsoup lmao
Oh nice lol
id imagine browsing model will consume a lot more tokens
and thats with me trimming things
Anyone compared Palm2 to gpt yet?
What is Palm2?
Googles LLM - competitor to chatgpt
Is that Bard?
I don't know of anyone who has, but if you do try it yourself feel free to share your findings in #ai-discussions
It’s like a framework for LLM’s so Bard is a product of Palm2, but it just had a massive upgrade
Ah i see, never heard of it before
Will do!
V2 only released yesterday so it’s pretty fresh!
Okay thanks, i will take a look
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I would hope V2 would be released pretty quickly after all the bad press Bard got recently. I haven't explored it though, interested in how its operating.
Abstract
Yep, I haven’t tried it myself yet but the initial panic release of Bard wasn’t a good look.
when will gpt-5 release
The email that’s from googles internal team that ‘AI has no moat’ was very interesting though - as in open source will win, so what’s their (and OpenAI’s) competitive advantage?
Not for awhile IIRC. Last I saw, OpenAI is encouraging a pause and reduction in complexity of models and better explainable AI before going into bigger models.
few months ago people are asking when will gpt4 release, now people are asking for 5🤔
damn
OpenAI is a nonprofit. Google is not. Big difference on their goals and motivations, I would say.
OpenAI is forprofit now too
OpenAI is not nonprofit
wait opener is non profit
https://openai.com/blog/introducing-openai - "OpenAI is a non-profit article intelligence research company"
There’s nothing wrong with being for profit. I work for a nonprofit and it’s never as clear cut as you’d think
Same as Midjourney. Research Nonprofit 🙂
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They're a capped-profit company now 🙂
lol
Thanks Dino ❤️ Might want to remove the old link from your live site then my dude
Or at least be transparent in the fact it's changed 🙂
I'm a volunteer and don't work for or represent OpenAI. I don't choose what goes on the site 
It’s actually all very confusing and I think they’re confused themselves. How I read it is they’re different companies with different structures? Capped for profit is weird anyway
Oh, you aren't provided any feedback mechanisms to forward to the OpenAI team? My bad, sorry I assumed I guess.
Thanks again for your volunteer time regardless 🙂
the 990 from 2019 isn’t crazy in terms of how much people were paid
as far as nonprofits are concerned i’ve seen a lot worse since i chronically look up 990s
LOL, true that. Also, I think LP is still considered non-profit
Like, they are still a 501c3 charity, they are just classified in the LP category so they have more range of motion with money
Here in Aus it’s all about tax reduction and working around confusing legislation. Not sure about the US but I’d hazard a guess at the fact the you probably get major R&D tax write offs as a nonprofit, which would be like 50% of the companies costs. But then they took on private equity which confuses things. So structurally speaking they just do whatever is in the companies advantage.
Just a guess, tho
Nope, I was wrong. They fully shed the nonprofit status. Disappointing.
🤷🏼♂️ I doubt it was ever for ethical reasons, anyway
Seems to me that google’s attempt at a moat is the seamless use of AI assistants across their software for productivity purposes.
OpenAi CEO said they stopped being nonprofit because they weren’t getting much funding, which was important for them to be able to build and scale their LLM’s.
But it doesn’t mean they’re not ethical… you can make profit and still do the right thing.
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Hold on, is the limits on GPT-4 removed?
I no longer see the 25 questions per 3 hours (or something like that) limit with GPT-4 anymore.
It makes sense to me that OpenAI would become a for profit cuz top universities like Stanford were not able to build LLMs as powerful as they want to since they are costly and Stanford is a not for profit institute. So even top universities research was limited by income .
I mean to answer that
they can charge money by tuition or something from international students.
it's the way faster.
Could someone confirm if the limits have been removed from GPT-4?
ethan mollick has. the comparison is on his twitter
Thank you
We should always be thankful to OpenAl , they created huge opportunities and raped useless companies, at this point the world will getting much better, more jobs will be created, and we are one step closer to freedom.
im skeptical on the more jobs part lol
I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords
i still see the cap
It's called the future of AI.
no chatgpt is horrible at making minecraft in three.js
Freedom... isn't that gonna be the other way around?
But whatever that's never gonna happen 😉
love it, instead of being afraid of it. embrace it, instead of hatreds.
True though
use it for what it is
the freedom will come to us, check Open Ai. com to find out more information
seems like the reaction of a first time chatgpt user🤔
Lol
are all new discussions using GPT4?
yes, you are gpt4 too
Hello everybody, It is nice to be here sharing with you, im very exited!
sweet

Ill talk to the new user about chatgpt and how good is it and etc and talk about this server in dms
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Unhelpful anyways
Cool. Just FYI- successfully prompting GPT to break its own rules is actively breaking ToS. Most can do it, and there are several jailbreak prompts out there.... but that doesn't mean that you should use them or share them 🙂
Yes, I received a termination notice today as well. I only use ChatGPT for educational purposes and had been a Plus subscriber since beta. Could someone please help?
I went on help.openai.com to submit an appeal as suggested in the termination email, but I do not see an option to appeal anywhere on the site
you can get banned for such a simple thing?
i mean like isnt the only reason there is a message limit is because of servers so removing a version of gpt would allow for more servers to be open so they can handle a higher load?
idk i could be wrong but thats what i think
start by toking about Robbin's basic pathology tenth education
It's stupidly easy to patch
it works by making chatgpt translate something to english
filter what it responds with not what it thinks...
(done with gpt 3.5 please verify about 4, also not official openai website, some other one)
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Yeah... I guess you missed the subtle hint to stop talking about using GPT unethically 😂 Thanks wolfson for being more blunt about it LOL.
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you found out what? lol.
Did anyone else read about the AI town they made with GPT?
/info
Its an amazing read for the intellectually curious. Think GPT roles assigned for an entire town full of NPCs
Google "Generative Agents: Interactive Simulacra of Human Behavior" to get the link to Joon's research

Entire town of NPC's driven by AI - as if it wasn't annoying enough trying to figure out where to go next, every NPC in the game can go on and on forever about nothing in particular. Great.
It was actually surprisingly wholesome and really sweet.
💯, me too
My user interface is so different. No more drop down menu to select GPT4. Is there any way to use 4 now?
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No what's that
So the code interpreter just got changed to gpt-4-code-interpreter instead of code-davinci-002
which is upsetting because I talked to it a lot.
#gpt-models Is colonization on Mars feasible?
It got changed
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test
/help
invest two skill points into intelligence
That’s not my strong suit bro just tell me
Can I get it for free or nah
Try to Ask the Ai that
there's bing's chatbot which uses gpt-4, can't recommend much else
look at other people who've done it and see what they did?
I think/I hope his about me is not serious
his about me is a pretty obvious joke
guys im going to participate in a contest and I cant find a story topic. Is there a prompt that writes such a good story topic that u know?
123
gpt 4 gets all ap macro answers wrong lmao
Opera GX has integrated ChatGPT into its Browser. Love it :)
@lament notch Embrace the plugins with a warm smile
no one else here has them for now 😭
Luck
just like how lucky you are with that face 😁
Waitlist I think
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Plugins waitlist will give you code interprer
Well, have you seen any code interprers waitlists or code interprers WITHOUT Plugins??
They decide to give you access
what channel?
hi, I recently created my account and I have never been able to get a response from the chat gpt bot and keep getting the error message, "Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com." Even after refreshing the page, reopening the page, and creating new chats I still get the same message. I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me.
do you have a product called NordVPN installed on your computer?
no i have never installed a vpn on my computer before
ok then do a fresh install of Firefox and ChatGPT should work on that
i just use google chrome but i could try it on firefox if that will work
try Firefox and let me know how it goes
my chatgpt error I waited for about 5 minutes no results came out that I was looking for, does this know how to prevent the error that I experienced?
what is the error message?
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what I asked to chatgpt there is no response and answer
where are you located? do you get any error message or is it just not responding?
I have get this email, what should i do?
Dear ChatGPT customer,
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Thanks for your understanding.
Best,
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where are you located? Which country?
in asia
yes, not responding answer
asia is not a country, which country specifically?
could you try with a fresh install of Firefox?
I am in Asia and I am not comfortable disclosing my country.
ok then I can't help you, sorry
sorry ,I need your help. I am from China.
China is not a supported country, you won’t be able to use ChatGPT or the GPT API.
nope, I'm using a safari. should I use firefox?
I just want you to test with Firefox so we can work out if it's a browser problem
But I have already paid
the email you received says you are being refunded
ok ,fine
i just tried using Microsoft edge and i received the same same message, for some reason it won't let me download firefox on my computer
Microsoft Edge is a chromium browser in the same way Chrome is. The reason I asked you to test with Firefox is that it is not chromium based. I think your problem is a browser issue but we won't be able to confirm that if you can't test with Firefox.
tr with with console
just a question but why would mine be an issue with my web browser when I have friends who use google and get results from the bot?
okay, thanks for the advice
because the Google is within a browser it's like engine in a car
because you have an extension or plugin that is preventing all necessary page resources from loading, you need to debug which extension, plugin or add on is causing those page resources from being blocked.
still getting this error on GPT4 - anyone else getting this?
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is there any way i could download firefox because it says my computer isnt compatible
do you have a product called NordVPN installed on your computer?
I don't know, I can't really provide computer advice, I can only help you troubleshoot ChatGPT
disable the 'web protection' feature in NordVPN settings and everything will work again
what did you change that its identifying you as a threat consistently?
Why is OpenAI the only site that is seen al a bad actor>
it's a bug in NordVPN, it's not a problem with ChatGPT
its not a feature is a bug is what you are telling me, that only impacts OpenAI?
it affects any site using Cloudflare to load Javascript page resources
what are the specific paths that should be whitelisted?
have not seen it on other CF sites with JS
it's not something you can whitelist, it is a bug within NordVPN's executables I have pulled the issue apart in great detail
is there an open ticket with cloudflare on this?
it's not an issue with Cloudflare, it's a bug with NordVPN which has a poorly conceived web protection feature, you will need to take it up with NordVPN, nothing else causes this issue
Hello can anyone see this message?
what do you need help with?
I’m fine thanks for asking
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hello word
I see that the former GPT3.5/4 web browsing alpha’s are now just “Web Browsing”? It looks to be GPT4 instead of 3.5 though - any thoughts or can any confirm this observation? Thx!
I have not received the plugin so far...
Yeah, and for me at least they also enforce the GPT-4 limit
Is it the same for you?
v-for
I saw on the Internet today that many people can use the plug-in. I am a subscriber like them and applied for the plug-in, but I still can’t use it. 😦
Need to wiat, it depends on OpenAI teams
I saw it!!!! The web browsing feature will be coming soon to everyone! And it is based on GPT4
What are the calling methods for the classes created by spring @Bean?
Hello, i have pro version but it says it isnt' upto date with the currunt information
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do we have a robot to provide the gpt4 service?
Always has been
there is no GPT on this Discord, you can access ChatGPT here - https://chat.openai.com/chat
so if im in china i cant use?😫
thanks
do we have ChatGPT application for mobile?
no there are no official apps from OpenAI
Thanks
use vps
Where did you see this news?
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yooooooo
does anyone have access to gpt4 wolfram plugin?
Mind telling me how you got it, by applying?
apply here - https://openai.com/waitlist/plugins
Chatgpt suddenly doesn't work, the text input button is grayed out, the history cannot be refreshed, the plus upgrade button is no longer available, and there is no notification of a ban. Do you know what to do?
I have the same bug
are you using a VPN? what country are you in?
yes。I am in china
China is not a supported country, you won’t be able to use ChatGPT or the GPT API.
I dont use VPN - Serbia. I do not see an option to choose gpt-4, Im a premium user.
I changed my account and it's ready to use。
try with a fresh install of Firefox
hi'
THis is on Chrome, fyi.
yes, but to debug a browser issue test with a non chromium browser, Firefox

OK, works on Firefox
then something in Chrome is blocking all page resources from loading, you should disable plugins and go through them one by one to work out which one is causing problems. In the meantime using Firefox is a good workaround.
ty
I wonder if there is another way to get the code interpreter plugin except applying for that
there isn't, you need to apply
but that is so difficult and time consuming
what do you mean? on the Plugin waitlist form?
Ha
hey, does anyone knows if there is a way to train a custom model of GPT with Microsoft 365 files (from Azure Open AI) ?
yes but no
anyway use embeddings, head to #dev-chat for more info
hi! I wanna ask. Is there difference in generation time between gpt 3.5 and gpt4?
yes, gpt4 should be much slower than gpt3.5
apply here https://openai.com/waitlist/plugins
gpt4 is slower than gpt3.5? why is dat?
Don’t you ever say bye bye!
the model parameter is larger, so it uses more computing power
Guys just use bing if you want GPT 4
bing feels nothing like the gpt4 in chatgpt and in the api tho🤔
My plus account is not directly logged in by the Google account, but by the official portal. How can I know how to get the news, because my plus account cannot log in to the Google mailbox
when you get to the question "Which plugin are you primarily interested in? *" then choose Code Interepreter
so if any website saying it provide chat gpt4 but the generation time is fast, so its not gpt4?
"How do you want to use plugins? *
I want to try plugins in ChatGPT"
just compare it to the gpt-4 api
or ask it to generate some sentences that ends with "apple" and see how well it performs
if it gets it 8/10 the time then its gpt4
if lower than 5/10 then its 100% not gpt4
cant compare, I dont have the api key
btw, whats the diff between regular gpt3.5 and the gpt3.5 legacy?
legacy is the old version
its slower but slightly better than gpt-3.5-turbo(the new version)
and its deprecated now, so you cant use it anymore
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Hi all. Can gtp4 or even 3.5 be connected with some form of avatar and speak back to you?
just connect the output to some text to speech ai or api
you could do that with the API if you can build an application
Thanks guys. I’m not savvy with this stuff at all. it’s for my kid. Where would I go to research?
if I subs to gpt plus, is there any gpt 4 limit usage?
you can use bing and it will speak to you
Yes it is, 25 messages / 3 hours
Is gpt4 always available? Or there is a down time?
Thanks I will look into this
there has been rare downtime, you can check https://status.openai.com
ok thank you for the answers
i got the gpt4 api, but how can i let it recognizes image?
image input is not available yet
sadly
By the way, there is a lot of hype around plugins, but Vision Gpt-4 is very quiet, although vision is many times cooler than any plugin.
plugins are overhyped
🤔they are buggy atm
on the other hand we have absolutely no information about vision
i think basically because it is still in learn mode more than 3.5 is.
hey i can't buy chat gpt pls why? it says card diclaned but it works normally fine and have on it more then enough money
imagine cat in sky
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Cam I use the token for auto gpt
the GPT API is a paid service, you will need to add a payment method
Ok
but gpt4 gives the better and more accurate answer(?)
1
anyone notice gpt4 is very fast this morning well for me anyway
will openai notify me through email if i get through the waitlist? or will i just see an option suddenly available to change models on chat.openai.com ?
I got notifcation before, so you would get!
thank you!
i feel like GPT4 is less smart today...
How does GPT is aware of the present date when it's not connected to the internet? I got answers with
'Last Updated: May 12, 2023'
Same for me, when I asked about current date
the system prompt have the current date included
there's a frontend sitting in front of the "chatgpt" machine learning system itself
Metadata
Hello there, i would like to ask last month i just subscript for my individual account but recently i saw the "organizations" billing that we could subs for an organization do anyone know the difference? thank you
has gpt4 become more stupid recently?
lately the responses to instructions arent being followed that well
or is it just me
is forefront actually as good as the open IA
what are you asking it to do and how big is your context?
Best thing is to open a company account using your company email and phone contact + banking details then you can use the company to pay for access.
pretty big contexts, it seems to forget earlier conversations compared to previous versions
hi, is there anyone who know how can we decode the unisat signature and message on backend and verify it?
yea, the public demo version of GPT-4 seems to have a reduced context size, I'm only going of anecdotal evidence here, but it seems to be similar to 3.5's 4k token context, the API version is the full 8K
If you are an Operations Director, how do you plan for operations
GUYS I JUST USED BARD, AND HOLY CRAP. ITS WAYYY BETTER THAN GPT
I could totally be getting it wrong as I do regulary send it 3k token's of code and get 3k tokens out...
I also have access to Bard and it's at best a 3.5 equivalent with a tiny context ... full power MEH
this is not the place to discus it, however
Discussions of non-OpenAI products / models should only be posted and discussed in the #ai-discussions channel.
in #ai-discussions sure, but this is for GPT-4
Like the competition? Not gonna mention any bots just the war
ok
@wind urchinIf gpt4 takes over and search engines becomes irrelevant then how will the internet be sustainable?
Doesnt article writers news outlets and THE COMPANY THAT RUNS SEARCH ENGINE earn from ad revenue?
I mean blocking ad block users is easy but how r u gonna deal with this?
same as it ever was... I never understood this question, if you have a product or service then you should make sure your produce or servcie has a fantastic web presence and great information stack online ready to be scraped by the AI's learning new things, it will be exactly like SEO but for AI's. Get your product details easy to read with quality info and the AI will read them and use them
Ok but what about article writers? They arent selling you a product. They are selling you a service that is held together by ad revenue and sponsorships. So If Ai scraps that data and just gives me the info I need then how will the article writers earn money? This include news outlets too
Hello I'm a AI beginner. How can I generate images?
It's all down to the value of the information, if you are producing high value info that users can't get anywhere else, you have a value proposition. Times change and information processing changes, we've had auto article generators for decades! Most of the online product advertising space is taken up by earlier versions of web scaping bots publishing articles already. You need to offer a service that others are not, that has always been the case.
On my Account, I guess? I saw browsing with out alpha and are staying with GPT 4, its just a guess
how fast is chatgpt 4? And is this true that we it is limited to 25 prompts per hour ?
25 prompts per 3 hours and GPT-4 is slower than 3.5, depending on the time of day and the load, the speed varies from 5-10tokens per second to over 40
Would not this run news makers out of business? And if that happens that would also run Ai out of business because gpt4 learns from public information
I dont get your answer
My first language isnt english
sorry
GPT-4 does not make news, at best it aggregates past information. If as a news organisation you report accurately on current events you will always be the source the AI uses to generate it's news from. That sounds like a reasonable business proposition to me.
Thats a good argument because Ai data base isnt updated every day so that you will still have to go to news makers website and get the latest news and watch ads. Also not a lot of people read old news anyway and news makers dont earn a lot of money from old news. So you will still have to watch ads and keep news makers in business and save time by telling gpt4 to give you a summary of the old news
This is why Plugins are a thing, if I were XYZ news I'd be working on a GPT-4 news plugin so that my company got picked as a users live news source plugin
What do you mean by plugins
#1100475811720601691 #1100473149574877234 They are add on elements to the base AI
Wow, gpt4 is lightning fast now
to give it current events relevance and added abilities
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hateful! I still can't access the plugin... I'm envious of people who can use plugins...
Weird that access isnt given as a pack. E.g. api chatgpt 4 + plug-ins.
API access is for a different subset of people
They cant release the plugins until other chatbots get competitive vs gtp-4. Its a no brainer.
When bard and bing ai are equal to gtp4, thats when we will get plugins
So the war is real lol
gpt 4 so slow today xD
I think Google's latest model is about to become a strong competitor to GPT-4.
That has nothing to do with plugin release, it’s being rolled out slowly because of demand constraints and safety applications, it will be released slowly in a phased deployment as said by openAI
Google also demoed their plugin functionality
I did my best
I tweeted to Greg to give everyone Plugins
Aren't these plugins also accessible as open-source? I am particular interested in code interpreter
Rolled out slowly to all twitter accounts that blasts up the hype? 😉
There's not been a technology race like this for decades! I'm loving it
In a sense, Nvidia, AMD, and Intel are all doing this kind of competition, but they are not on the same track.
so true
I have plug-in access so do several of my colleagues and we aren’t in a position to create hype. yes maybe that’s part of their strategy but overall it’s harm prevention and controlling demand
Absolutely it’s very exciting and this is just the beginning, once we get the unrestricted models released with no “As a AI Language model” hard coded answers things are going to get very interesting
But we seem to have gradually taken for granted and commonplace what they compete with, and we are more interested in GPT, a fresher technology (laughs)
Will enigineer prompting always be a thing over time?
This is what the initial model looks like...but losing the safety constraints would be dangerous, it would very likely result in instant pollution of internet resources with noise from AI
The hub of all of this is GPT-4 it is the standard against which everything will be measured, it gives OpenAI a free advert any time anything else is made as they will always be compared to it. The trick is to release new features just as anyone else gets close... do that for 12 months and you pretty much have this in the bag
To be honest, for me, as long as my description is accurate enough or I provide a suitable example for GPT, then I can also be a prompt word engineer. In my opinion, this profession is difficult to develop very professionally
I dont think so. Engineer prompting exist atm (imo) to optimize the chatbot. And with every improvement of the chatbot, the degree of "special prompting" diminishes.
In a sense, prompt words are refined natural language
how is prompt engineering different from learning to talk?
The AI's will become better prompt engineers than people.. need to be wary of that as a career path... for now.. it's profitable, but the next gen of AI's will have read and seen what works and what does not and will be better prompters than people... I give it 6-12 months as a way to make money
prompt engineering is an optimization on prefix tokens
that is absolute non sense, not sure if you realize that.
🙏🔥 thx guys
Learning to talk would be an optimization on weights and biases
I see that OpenAI seems to be marking GPT-2 stuff with GPT-4.
I don' think so, it's about understanding the language and reasoning with it.
Understanding language, at least for neural networks as we understand it now, is optimizing the weights and biases of a neural network until it produces an observed understanding of language
You realise there is already an automated prompt generator?
(or pseudo-understanding, depending on your POV)
that is not true, you just gave a description of the mathematical property of gradient descent.
that has nothing to do with reasoning.
Basically, think of prompt engineering as the best way to start the conversation, but learning to talk would be dependent on understanding of language
I have created an javascript game where I can sell it fast if needed I can convert it into Apk
Please tell
which everyone should learn and understand to discuss with a fellow human being.
Hello 🤗
so if i use the company account i can use the chat.openai for chatgpt 3.5 or 4 ? or is this just for playground only?
note i just get approved for the waiting list to playground too
Anyone here?
#off-topic for non AI and in this case GPT-4 related queries
how is that different than asking ChatGPT to generate a prompt?
Please any tell
100%, prompt engineering is an important aspect of generating good outputs, but it stagnates like a log curve over time
IDK, I'm not the creator or maintainer of it
Thanks
it can be interesting to investigate the source code, as it might does exactly what I just said.
you could also ask bard to create a prompt for chatgpt or vice-versa.
Understanding language is done using learning (optimization over weights), Prompt engineering is to optimize the output based on giving the AI the best way to start its token generation (optimization over prefix tokens)
sounds like a salesman pitch
I'll take it as a complement
Already happening and losing the safety constraints is inevitable, it’s just a matter of time and already those with the resources to do so have private models where they are unaffected by restraints but on public ones
there is also a legal framework being put in place that will limit what folks running private models can do.
this is more #ai-discussions stuff that GPT-4
I once gave GPT-4 a dialogue between two characters in a novel, and asked GPT-4 to summarize a character's setting, personality, language style, and expression. GPT-4 performed brilliantly after two rounds of modification. I then added a little extra to the text of the GPT-4 summary, and then sent it to GPT-4 in another conversation, and let it play the role to talk to me according to the prompt words, and the effect was surprisingly good , which is almost the same as directly giving GPT-4 the original text of the novel to let it imitate
That method is being used by writers right now, super powerful
song writers also, had a famous person in the other day asking about lyric generation
my jaw was on the floor for about 30 mins
Yes, I'm using it for some fanfiction too, but I'm still experimenting with more efficient cue words and improving GPT-4's understanding of existing plots without changing the model...
The 8k model is powerful, but it will still be difficult for novel creation, and I have not applied for the GPT-4 API, let alone the 32k model
I really should be doing more with my GPT-4 API access.. hours in the day problem
I remember that I did the same thing for GPT-3.5. It barely showed a little interest after reading a part of the original text of the novel. It was impossible to output high-quality content like GPT-4 after reading the refined prompt words.
Hey, I glanced at the results of Google Translate and knew it had no idea what I was talking about
It seems that GPT replaces traditional translation is an inevitable trend
Loooool pls don’t tell me you believe that
How will legal bodies control private models ran on local systems that’s lunacy
The cat is out the bag already it’s way too late to start regulating, things will unravel as it progresses
Indeed, it's like that leaked AI painting model that many people are using to generate illegal content
Of course, it was inevitable. It’s a very similar situation to Napster and early music streaming where there was gigantic outrage for the music industry attempting to create a legal framework to limit music distribution, instead it failed embarrassingly and piracy is bigger than ever and music streaming completely revolutionised how we distribute music to people
I opened chatgpt plus on March 25th, and at that time, a fee of $20 was deducted. I have not deducted the fee again until now. My card balance is sufficient, and chatgpt plus can still be used. What is the reason for this?
are you sure you weren't billed again around the 25th April?
You are really good enough
sure
They give you a 30 day grace period before charging you again
The last time I heard this kind of thing was when some people ordered members of some platforms in the early stage, but somehow they became "permanent members"
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I did not close my subscription, and the balance in my card is sufficient without any deductions. Should I ignore this matter?
can you still access GPT-4?
yes
Would you like to try to bind a new bank card and use it to pay once?
sounds like a glitch with billing, the honest thing to do would be to email support@openai.com and explain the situation and ask that it be remedied.
I just received access to the apikey for chatgpt4 a few days ago
API access and ChatGPT are separate, the $20 monthly fee for GPT Plus is different to the pay as you go billing of the API
I will email support@openai.com and explain the situation and ask that it be remedied.
What's the difference between free and premium!?
u can use plug in and gpt 4
the plus has got access the gpt 4
/gpt
This is not ChatGPT, you can access ChatGPT here - https://chat.openai.com/chat
Chatgpt 4.5 should be really faster than this 4
gpt4 access, much large limit as well as server priority when servers are busy
Hello, i have an issue with gpt plugins, look like they migrate to gpt4 model, but the model have no longer acess to the plugins.
anyone facing the same issue ?
👋
only me who cannot shift + enter on the first prompt that i write with gpt 4?
I remember that this problem happened to others before, I suggest you restart the browser and try
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hey, anyone here has dealt with embeddings and uploading them to pinecone? I want to calculate the average embeddding on a running basis. hows that achieved any idea?
Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!
AttributeError: 'report.area_activity_report.area_activity_report_789' object has no attribute 'model'
dumbells deadlifts pull-ups etc
chumba wumba gobbledy goo
life isn't fair
it's sad but it's true
chumba wumba boggledy glee
when your poor legs are stiff as a tree
What do you do when your stuck in a chair ?
finding it hard to go up and down stairs
what do you think of the one you call god
isn't his absence slightly old ?
maybe he's forgotten you
chumba wumba gobbledy gorse
count yourself lucky your not a horse
they would turn you into dog food
or into chumba wumba gobbledy glue
🔥 song
please stay on topic and post other stuff to #off-topic
oh i was just singing sorry
Gpt4 is wayyy smarter compared to yesterday, what is happening ?
You cannot train gpt4. fine tuning api is not available
Example?
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Well, I am building a security with spring security 3, and while yesterday he was the DUMBEST chat I’ve ever add in my life (he was struggling to point to an obvious mistake I let for test), he is actually single handled a huge problem I had today
GPT4 feels like it has been downgraded these past few days. It has become fast but gives generic coding solutions unlike when it was released.
Same conversation thread?
(original message was deleted, leaving request up so others can learn)
Please don't share information or talk about how to use GPT unethically in this server. It's an easy way to get the collab of this server taken away, and a lot of us are using it to solve major social good issues.
Plenty of non OpenAI hosted discord servers around GPT & AI that don't have as strict of rules too, btw. Those are great places where its safe to talk about jailbreaking and heavily monitored by admins to ensure no illegal activity ensues as a result of the jailbreak or "Go outside your box" attempts to use GPT
(which is a break of TOS and not my fault if you do it and get banned, as a general disclaimer LOL)
Okay noted
so nice to hear 
could you maybe share a bit more about how you are solving major social good issues?
Gpt 3 told me a joke about men but it didn't tell about women
how do i chat with chatgpt guys im new here on openai discord
Hi guys, how to get access to 32k context GPT4 model? I have api access to gpt4, but if I try to use "gpt-4-32k-0314" in model request, I have error "The model: gpt-4-32k-0314 does not exist"
Check the aiempower link in my bio. I hesitate to say more than that because even know I do the work for free and receive no money from it, it's self promotion and technically super close to a rulebreak, so I want to be respectful of the rules of this ecosystem
@mint pebblehi im new aswell
You can dm @open crescent and they will check your case
Bro i just typed the f word but differently 🥲
this is a G rated server
is gpt-4 free
No, but you can try chatgpt 3.5 for free
Does anyone know of a third party service that allows GPT to analyze a Git repo?
hi robert.
👋
may i dm you if you dont mind i need some guidance
just ask here, I can't accept individual DMs
ok sorry for asking
Guys i made a godly song based on that one family guy song:
Chorus:
Koopa Troopa Fodduley Doo
Your life is unfair, gods arrival long due
You still think he exists?
Even through the sorrow, crimson mists?
Verse 1:
Life can be a real kick to the shell
Sometimes you're up, sometimes you're in hell
But when you're feeling down and out
God's existence is something to doubt
Chorus:
Koopa Troopa Fodduley Doo
Your life is unfair, gods arrival long due
You still think he exists?
Even through the sorrow, crimson mists?
Verse 2:
When life's got you feeling blue
And there's nothing you can do
Sometimes you just want to shout
And let it all come pouring out
Chorus:
Koopa Troopa Fodduley Doo
Your life is unfair, gods arrival long due
You still think he exists?
Even through the sorrow, crimson mists?
Chorus:
Koopa Troopa Fodduley Doo
Your life is unfair, gods arrival long due
You still think he exists?
Even through the sorrow, crimson mists?
#1050184247920562316 please
please don't, I have asked you not to do this before
ok sorry i just couldn’t resist
if you sing it the way it’s supposed to be sung it becomes fire
ok i will stop
Good day, good fellows
Can someone explain me 1 thing?
If I'll take ChatGPT plus then I'll get access to gpt-4?
Yes
if you subscribe to GPT Plus you get limited access to GPT-4, 25 messages per 3 hours
Thank you! And after limit it will be old good 3rd?
if you hit the limit you can opt to continue in GPT-3.5
Wen plugins for paid subscribers!!! Been on waitlist for so long and still nothing 😤
I have been waiting for 29 days, just need to be patient
Does anyone know the principle of the "WebChatGPT" plug-in, is it to stuff all the web search results to GPT? But I didn't see the complete content in the input content. GPT should not be able to read the URL by itself without a plug-in...
Note, I am not talking about official plugins
Not shipping plugins and the 25 message limit on model 4 is seriously holding the service back, what am I paying for 😂
officially you are paying for access to a faster GPT-3.5 and the ability to log in when servers are busy, everything else is a bonus
Way over priced for this alone, plugins and unlimited model 4 usage would be worth the current fee
$20 USD is a bargain, do you realise how much you could spend on GPT-4 API even with the current caps? Your expectations are not realistic.
Make limit cap to 50 other than that im fine
Hello, I apologize in advance if this question has already been answered here. I try to have longer dialogues with ChatGPT 4. I want to use ChatGPT 4 e.g. as my assistant in a new job in the future, I had ChatGPT write code for a neural network, and a few other things that need a longer exchange with ChatGPT. My problem is that ChatGPT keeps losing touch with our conversation. I then ask which is the oldest understandable message and it becomes clear that ChatGPT no longer understands the entire context. In the QuickSilver SuperPrompt I noticed a command /periodic_review - But even if I use this and also add an interval like /periodic_review every response, ChatGPT loses the reference or after a few messages, the reference is lost. Does anyone have an idea what I can change? Unfortunately, it is hardly possible to start projects with ChatGPT. This week in particular, it feels like it has become even more difficdult.
Based on current API usage cost you have a point on the unlimited usage but still disappointed with lack of plugins
Plugins are being rolled out to people on the waitlist, you just need to be patient, plugins are Alpha now, you're not guaranteed access even when they go to beta
Would love to know requirements for the waitlist, literally filled form out in the first minute 😂
the only requirement is patience 🙂
No requirements, if you are a lucky guy you will get access, if not wait forever.
you could maybe start a new thread and recontextualise with the important parts or the result of the back and forth. you can use https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer to get an idea of how much you can fit (I believe gpt4 has 8k context?)