#gpt-models

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cloud bison
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But... I don't think its the Language Model part that is limiting it, I think it is the attached framework and access issues that are the primary inhibition.

mystic nest
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anyway, a never ending topic on what is AGI, so we can probably just have our conclusions to ourselves on this

solar mural
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hey is someone usign auto gpt here

torn escarp
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yes

solar mural
torn escarp
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no

wicked comet
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Agreed.

The initial question was ultimately to provoke some novel discussion.

Of course, all answers necessitate individualistic interpretations and subjective beliefs around the concept of "what truth is", "how new knowledge is formed", and "the current and future capabilities of GPT-4 and more broadly AGI".

None of which can really be facilitated within a fast-moving discord channel like this one. But glad to read it provoked some interesting but brief analyses*.

Thanks for taking the time to write our your thoughts.

marsh shale
wind urchin
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just search on guthub, but honestly, you're better off building something that actually works with langchain

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autogpt is a hype machine that does little

mystic nest
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yeah, just like all the "GPTs in your PC/Laptop"... now is like a survival gameshow...and let's see who will live to the end

burnt basalt
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salam a

cloud bison
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Gotta get to work on making androids, solve the human loneliness problem forever lmao.

wind urchin
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feels an episode of rick and morty vibes

silk patio
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whats the new pad next to the thumbs up in GPT4?

wind urchin
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ooo, I wonder when they will put chatgpt in an episode, like southpark did

mystic nest
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imagine a world where everything go through ChatGPT or alike

wind urchin
silk patio
mystic nest
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then turn out we are the chatgpt that role played humans

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nah,too boring.. hope they think of something new

wind urchin
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(I'm an android fanboi, so I'm semi guessing at that)

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there should be an iOS equiv 😅

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you will get 2 emails 1 confirming you have joined the wait list and another when you get granted access

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Source, Me, I have access

void bay
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Having issues with bank cards being rejected for chat gpt plus. Where can i get some infos as in why that is and whats to be done. Thank you

fair iron
mystic nest
wind urchin
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basically, there are a few reasons, 1 is the bank / card issuer has decided not to allow re-occurring payments to OpenAI, another is the details on the card do not match up identically with your details used for the account, and yet another is the card is not from a high street bank

lapis jolt
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What's going on with GPT4 the last few days, it feels way dumber, and it's also starting to hallucinate way more

fair iron
void bay
wind urchin
lapis jolt
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It's weird, it's subtle like. At first I was thinking it was a placebo effect, or in my head, but the more I use it I can't shake that there's just a lot of 'off' things that just felt wrong, I have to be much more specific about prompts, it starts to loop off of itself harder, and if it starts to go off into errant territory it starts to become harder to remove it from the wrongness, and I have to reset the entire chat a lot sooner rather than correct it

It's not like 3.5's lobotomizing where entire swaths of information and potential were removed outright and barriers were made in your face. It's like... the information is there it's just much harder to pry from it.

wind urchin
lapis jolt
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No not at all

lapis jolt
wind urchin
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I "think" the context limit was reduced to 4k to enable more people to use it, so... dunno if you think you went over 3k words

lapis jolt
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Also in prompts when it starts to go errant it's harder, almost impossible to get it to redirect once it's started. Like if it says one thing in a bulleted format, I'll say very clearly what I want it to do and "Don't do a bullet format, use this syntax." and instead it'll just give me another bulleted list

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Then i'll correct it again, and then it'll do it but forget critical details or do something only tangentially related

wind urchin
bronze wolf
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api

wind urchin
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🤔 what about it?

sullen vapor
barren hinge
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Anyone willing to help me out? I’ve been stuck on writing s prompt for s desired effect for about 3 weeks 😫

lapis jolt
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Well I was hoping others may have noticed it to before I do the suggestion or bug report. You know just to build a sort of case that this isn't isolated, or better still if this is an already known thing. But I haven't noticed anyone else talk about it. So a bit weird

wind urchin
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actual data makes a more compelling case than "It feels X"

lapis jolt
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Also, yeah I agree "it feels weird" isn't a very concrete argument and I'm sure can be dismissed out of hand.

wicked comet
junior iris
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is it just me or is the gpt4 model not performing as well as it used to before?

lapis jolt
wind urchin
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there is always the API... if you have access

wicked comet
wind urchin
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if you find you use GPT-4 for more than idle time tasks, I think it's worth applying for a key and getting yourself on the waitlist

cedar olive
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Any gpt news?

bleak sedge
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is gpt 4 broken rn?

cedar olive
bleak sedge
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something is up

mental burrow
hot edge
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How can i look up in googke this website

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Google

silent pier
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Will GPT-4 cost $0.06 per completion token or per 1000 completion tokens? The language in the faq isn't too clear

mental burrow
wraith ginkgoBOT
wind urchin
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prompt = input, completion = output

stable dagger
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How to report these kinds of issues? I make a new request and get the message "Only one message at a time. Please allow any other responses to complete before sending another message, or wait one minute." Even though the previous message is complete.

south whale
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As a non-AI programmer, new to the ChatGPT experience, what you said -- " AI ethicisists and developers for the most part are intentionally constraining the AI and not allowing recursive trial and error developments" -- makes me suspect that my emerging suspicions about how ChatGPT / GPT 4 is being 'trained' and 'fine-tuned' may well be correct.

Consider that, based on any set of 'knowledge' combined with any set of logic and evaluation rules there seem to be 4 possible responses to any prompt: 1. I don't know (or know how); 2. I do know, and here's the response; 3. I don't know for sure, but I can offer an X (hi/lo/etc) probability answer; 4. I have a 'fined-tuned' answer, but it is not supported by logic, data, or both.

I've found that ChatGPT (3.5 & 4) tends to give 'fine-tuned' answers that conflict with facts (data) it possesses, or with logical principles it (sometimes) follows. At first, I found this pattern in areas where 'fine-tuning' to achieve "socially desirable" answers was likely. But further testing reveals more extensive patterns of this type.

My concern is, that 'fine-tuning' to produce preferred answers is, functionally, teaching ChatGPT to lie.

One of the 'principles of the universe' I've long believed in is that "the truth" gores all bulls. That is, the actual facts, combined with solid logic, tends to deny that ANY popular answer is completely correct. The idea that a powerful AI would be programmed to evince a 'Joe Friday', "just the facts, ma'am" approach was exciting to me. But I'm beginning to suspect that ChatGPT is being trained more in the "tell me who it is, and I'll find the crime" (Lavrentiy Beria, head of Stalin's secret police) mode.

Comments?

stable dagger
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This started happening yesterday

lapis jolt
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I don't really understand the definition of tokens, I believe they're words, but I don't know how it relates to words you wrote, versus words in the overall history, versus words it write. Is there a writeup? There's probably an FAQ post about it isn't there?

wind urchin
stable dagger
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no

cedar olive
lapis jolt
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Do you know where I can find it? If not I should probably just google it

wind urchin
# stable dagger no

hmmm, only seen that before when someone had two pages open and were sending requests at the same time

stable dagger
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No what is happening here is like it is processing multiple of my requests instead of one. When I regenerate I get a new answer that I didnt see before, but it is from an old prompt

whole kettle
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Hey, is GPT 4 still in a comma ?

cedar olive
stable dagger
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Opera. I dont know if it is related, but I also noticed that crtl-enter stopped working. So I cannot move to a new line for input, it just submits what I have written as if I pressed enter instead of ctrl-enter -- it only occassionally doesnt work and seems related to this issue

wraith ginkgoBOT
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wind urchin
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Hey. Pricing of gpt-4 is also not clear to me. So we pay 20$/months for plus account. Then there is cost per token. So is it like [20 + tokens * cost per token]? Also how we can see how much we spend until now?

mild pendant
wind urchin
lapis jolt
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Is there any 3rd party way of getting access to the GPT4 api? Like how some discord bots now are using the GPT3.5 API if I'm not mistaken, for responses?

wind urchin
slate eagle
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if for some reason, you switched to a lower GPT version in a thread due to rate limiting, once it is available again, how do you set the GPT version back to 4?

wind urchin
slate eagle
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this thread is long, like 100s of messages long

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is this really the only way?

lapis jolt
wind urchin
slate eagle
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ah ok

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hmm im not sure about that though, i reference lots of previous messages & functions it has produced and it knows what I am referencing

wind urchin
lapis jolt
whole kettle
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GPT 4 has been fixed it seems! It's smart again, at least for the moment. Good job Open AI.

wind urchin
lapis jolt
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Oh wait your problem, not the one I was talking about. Sorry lost in my own world for a second. Duh.

whole kettle
lapis jolt
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Hmm okay then it was my problem too. Let's seee

prime osprey
deft ravine
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anyone know how I can input images and output text in the image

wind urchin
lapis jolt
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Yeah that's a GPT4 API thing exclusively, right?

deft ravine
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yea I know is there anything that uses gpt to do that

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any secondary website or something

wind urchin
wind urchin
whole kettle
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Oh boy, yes it's back. It can finally remember your initial prompts again and make suggestions based on the information you gave it, oh my God I missed GPT 4, feels good to have it back!

whole kettle
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This probably means the mods here and the team must be actively listen to our feedback and when there is an issue they actually take time to look into it, that's great.

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If that's so thank you very much guys, you're awesome.

pliant mauve
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I have chatplus subscription but i kept on getting defect messages when generating responses. "Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com". Does anyone know what i can do to resolve this issue. I have raised this in the chat a number of times with no joy?

wind urchin
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Is GPT-4 worth the money?

wind urchin
wind urchin
brazen badger
wind urchin
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also depends a fair bit on your countries price index, for someone in the USA... it's a couple of coffee's, so.. not a lot, but for others it could be a big chunk of money, I think it is worth trying at least once, just to see what the very latest AI can do

frail night
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hello, has anyone used gpt-4 for resume building? is it worth it?

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im considering buying it but have been super unsure

pliant mauve
frail night
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(all the promotions i've seen have been paid promotions)

brazen badger
brazen badger
pliant mauve
frail night
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How do I join for $20 a month ? I can't find the link

frail night
brazen badger
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But no I’ve never had issues, sometimes it can’t generate but I just reload

pliant mauve
brazen badger
brazen badger
wind urchin
frail night
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ty and is plus access to gpt-4? or does that require an additional purchase of tokens to use gpt-4?

wind urchin
frail night
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thank you. 🙂 ❤️

brazen badger
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Btw does anyone know if I’ll get plugins

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I signed up on day 4

fallow hawk
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I signed up 5 minutes after it opened and I don't have it either

pliant mauve
whole kettle
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Signed up a month ago and still nothing 😄

white pendant
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is chatgpt 4 gonna be free in the future?

pliant beacon
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3.5 should be just fine for resume building

plush arrow
pliant mauve
frozen spear
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Where can we go to discuss Auto?

sand hull
warped shard
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Is gpt 4 still limited

pastel estuary
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Idk when it will be updated to 2023

warped shard
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What about the amount of chats you can send

pastel estuary
warped shard
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Has it been fast for you

pastel estuary
warped shard
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Yesterday a lot of people were saying it got fast. Could that be a prelude to making it an unlimited

pastel estuary
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What?

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Anyways I hate that it’s 25 msgs/3h

warped shard
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Do you think that fact that it got faster could be them trying to scale up their systems in order to make it where you can send unlimited chats

pastel estuary
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Idk but hope

warped shard
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Yeah. I have a handful of plans for hobby application building iam planning to do once it gets unlimited to use

pastel estuary
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Cool u heard any auto-gpt?

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Abt*

warped shard
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Yeah it’s honestly pretty cool

pastel estuary
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U need a paid acc tho but I will fix it tmr

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It’s not that user friendly tho but who cares I can still use it

warped shard
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I honestly wonder how this technology will look like in a few years or so

pastel estuary
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Bro u have no idea 😂

warped shard
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This is like the early days of the internet

pastel estuary
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Voice AI, AI in general, etc. gonna be crazy

pastel estuary
warped shard
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Ppl are gonna be ai reincarnating artists like Michael Jackson

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True

pastel estuary
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They alrdy doing it with rappers 😂

warped shard
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One managed to clone drakes voice and make him sing a song he never wrote. And the music isn’t that bad

pastel estuary
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AIs making better music than the real artists lol and ppl thinks it’s their official song as well

pastel estuary
warped shard
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Yeah I wonder how they will all react to this. Combine ai voice technology with gpt 4 expertise in terms of lyric writing and music writing and you get a lyrical genius

warped shard
pastel estuary
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Also bruh you can eventually make a bag 💰 if voice AI getting this good 😂

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Wonder how school will look like in 20 years 💀

warped shard
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Iam predicting that someone is going to see this as an opportunity to build a platform where they have multiple ai using artist voices and gpt 4 to write music and offer a competitive pricing and marketing strategy to compete with Spotify or something like that

pastel estuary
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Probs

warped shard
hazy lintel
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trains

warped shard
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The teacher will have the central control of all ai systems that the students use. The teacher can tell the ai to prioritize key subjects for the students to learn and give the idea a list of agenda and topics to teach the students

pastel estuary
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It’s sad cuz our grand grand grand children will struggle to get rich cuz it’s like it’s getting harder and harder to getting rich

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World leaders says u will not need to own anything but someone has to own u know

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In the future

warped shard
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I heard the world economic forum made a prediction where that in the future none will own anything. The way that they phrased it is very weird but you can understand what they mean by it. You will have ai creatively planning and machines producing and iterating things to perfection.

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Little to no human involvement. But that’s way too far in the future

pastel estuary
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Yeah we talking 100y and further like everything u will think of the AI has alrdy thought of that

warped shard
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Exactly. Like you will rarely think or own something that is originally created

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Unless if we combine with ai

pastel estuary
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Maybe the fact that it’s been more faster lately it has smth to do with it

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Idk

warped shard
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Yeah. I honestly think they are trying their hardest to get to make it unlimited because they know that a lot of people will pay once that happens

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Everyone that is willing to pay is complaining that fact it’s not unlimited

pastel estuary
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@warped shard since the data cutoff 2021 it might provide alrdy existing “unique” name ideas and then it can be good to combine and take it as inspiration etc.

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Patience. It will pay off sooner or later. Also for Plugins u need to sign to a waitlist

night ermine
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wierd... it may not be worth it for everybody but to say that you dont feel the difference... it hallucinates a lot less. few times better for some programming questions and for learning languages.

warped shard
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Once it’s unlimited iam paying

pastel estuary
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Then if y don’t have money unsubscribe then resubscribe when it updates for ur preferences

pastel estuary
night ermine
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if you ask it if something is correct with GPT3.5 its a coin flip. GPT4 is much more reliable for these type of questions.

wraith ginkgoBOT
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knotty grotto
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please stay respectful in the discord

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no need to be rude

pastel estuary
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I don’t really mind I got money for it so 🤷‍♂️

night ermine
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they arent selling you GPT4 for 20USD... they are selling you a plus membership, and one of those perks is beta access to GPT4.

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if its the only reason you want it and nothing else matters to you thats on you to think over.

floral knot
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Ok, since this chat is active I'll be posting this here too: What if there was some sort of massive database where artists and coders can submit their works to so AI companies can license them before scraping them? Every 00000001th of a penny an AI company gets goes back to an artist whenever something is generated from their works. Both regular artists and AI artists are happy. Win win!

weary rampart
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No, you are paying for faster ChatGPT, the other features they just let you try.

pastel estuary
floral knot
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Lol how?

pastel basin
ripe forge
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is GPT 4 still really slow?

floral knot
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@pastel estuary Tell me how.

runic ember
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I keep getting errors with generating response all the time, does it work for you people?

weary rampart
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Yeah, I mean, that is the reason I have plus, I don’t care about the faster 3.5. I’m annoyed about the 25 messages and hope it goes up soon, but they do present it more as a trial bonus for being a plus member. The real product is the gpt4 api. If they advertised it as paying for gpt4, I’d be much more annoyed at the 25 limit

umbral fossil
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a man who annoys

runic ember
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I feel lucky if I get one response today... well spent 20$ 😦

umbral fossil
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where can i create images with text?

ripe forge
serene cipher
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the gpt-4 model preview on chatGPT is very limited, unlike the GPT-3.5 models which are the ones ChatGPT have always been using so far

pastel basin
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I mean plus gpt3.5

slow herald
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How do I get access to plugins and the new browsing feature? I selected I am using it for research and now I read I should have selected to be a dev? Would be really nice to test out plugins and web queries…

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I am on the paid gpt4 plan so a little annoying that I cannot access all features for weeks - does anyone know how to get access?

wise furnace
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Breathe in
GPT-4 is...
Breathe out
... in Beta.

slow herald
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This is the way 😄

hollow iron
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Is not 🤭

restive galleon
sand hull
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Gpt-4 api is cool as heck.

timber wasp
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Is it possible to access cleared chat gpt conversations?

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Or does anyone know the contact information of the developers?

knotty grotto
timber wasp
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Ok, got it thanks

wraith ginkgoBOT
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timber wasp
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does anyone know if there is a phone number?

knotty grotto
timber wasp
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do you know how long it takes for them to answer?

knotty grotto
timber wasp
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do you know an estimate? i am just in an urgent situation right now

knotty grotto
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few days for sure

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150 millions userwithin 4 month

jovial kite
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Hello machines !
Can anyone help me if I could get an exception to extend my wording limit in my Chat GPT? I am a lawyer and want to go ALL IN with AI. But there is a lot to teach :I

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Im talking about 10k-30k words, more if possible.

knotty grotto
vestal steppe
jovial kite
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Are you guys moderators or something in Open AI? Or can there be a possibility that I could still look for?

Thank you both for your response by the way.

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I have a HUGE case that Chat GPT is understanding but know I want to explain a bit more but for that is pages and pages of the case. It´s a personal case as well.

vestal steppe
jovial kite
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Could the chat store more than 100 pages of information? I mean could the AI process that amount of information in a single chat?

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If so I would input as before, by phases. But maybe I can run out of storage and everything was for nothing.

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Thank you for you time Dr. Lisa Su, I apreciate it.

upbeat dome
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Meticulously comb through the text and rewrite it line by line to minimize tokens.

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Use a website like Tiktokenizer.

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One strategy I have is, if there's a lengthy concept that comes up over and over again, I abbreviate it with an emoji. Then, whenever that concept comes up, I write the emoji and save myself 50+ words.

jovial kite
ripe spoke
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Hey, the answers that you get when asking chatgpt to write an essay should vary and be different each time.

smoky crest
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Also @jovial kite anything you enter into openai is no longer classified, don’t get yourself in legal trouble

shut herald
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anyone else has plus membership but cannot access GPT4? It has been like this for 2 weeks, and OpenAI just don't care I guess, but I care since I'm paying

smoky crest
shut herald
smoky crest
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If that’s what your trying to do

shut herald
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before I was able to say use GPT4 or 3 or legacy

smoky crest
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Lemme see

wraith ginkgoBOT
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shut herald
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It just says upgrade to plus on the bottom left

smoky crest
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Then upgrade to plus

shut herald
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I'm subscribed!

smoky crest
shut herald
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you are a genius aren't you

smoky crest
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Click upgrade then

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If you payed it won’t let you again

shut herald
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In the help bot it says some users have reported this plus bug

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I can't send image here apparently

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I haven't unsubsribed, and I was even charged on 13th too

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not gonna pay again for something that I can't access

wind urchin
shut herald
smoky crest
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Your slowing it down

shut herald
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at the end says someone will contact me within 30 minutes, but then here I am

smoky crest
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The more tickets = less priority they will help you

wind urchin
shut herald
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Thanks guys

wind urchin
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most of the people with Plus account issues have now been delt with, so there there is less stress on the system

shut herald
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Thought some admins check here, but probably not

smoky crest
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This mainly just community chat

thorny ermine
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anyone use gpt4 for calculus?

smoky crest
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Openai can’t math well

thorny ermine
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damn

smoky crest
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Lol Goodluck

wind urchin
gilded apex
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Anyone else have issues with descending order lists?

shrewd thunder
thorny ermine
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yeah

shrewd thunder
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if you are that **** then use wolfram

thorny ermine
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how would i use wolfram ?

wind urchin
shrewd thunder
thorny ermine
shrewd thunder
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but you are goign to fail your tests

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as you wont understand anything

thorny ermine
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well then thats kind of pointless

gilded apex
crude magnet
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Are there any useful image generation AI tools available?

jagged pulsar
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What upgrade just happened? GPT-4 is far faster, and it is making fewer errors than even earlier today

shrewd thunder
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then use the wolfram plugin

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to help you if you want to understand the concepts

wind urchin
smoky crest
shrewd thunder
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i wish they would provide the sourcecode for that

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at least just that part

hollow swan
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why isn't chatgpt working

thorny ermine
wraith ginkgoBOT
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wooden valley
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lol

hasty gale
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It would be neat if gpt4 parsed this server for inappropriate responses

hearty plaza
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Bro what happens to my chat gpt

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It won’t even load

smoky crest
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Tap the drop-down on the plug-in

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It says what it’s doing

hearty plaza
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Is chatGPT down ?

smoky crest
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No

shrewd thunder
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not that i want the sourcecode for how the gpt model recongizes when to use plugins

hearty plaza
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Mine is taking years to load for an answer

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@smoky crest

smoky crest
jovial crescent
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I want to check my coding assignment and it's a bit a lot, chatgpt doesn't allow me to input these many lines. Is there any work around for this?

zenith fox
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Do you know Pantone color cards?

shrewd thunder
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mmm i will ask i am pretty curious

sinful lichen
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what's your version?

smoky crest
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It responded is ∞ (infinity).

shrewd thunder
smoky crest
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Said source code was

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integral = Integrate[(x^2 + Exp[x]) * Sin[Pi * x], {x, 0, 1}];
limitSum = Limit[Sum[i^2 / (n^2 + i), {i, 1, n}], n -> Infinity];
result = integral + limitSum;
result

shrewd thunder
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are you joking

smoky crest
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It’s what the bot said

shrewd thunder
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what

shrewd thunder
smoky crest
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What’s the right answer

trim tusk
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Any plans for the cap to go above 25 messages any time soon?

smoky crest
trim tusk
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I’ve learned more from GPT-4 than I have from school

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School is a joke

fleet ice
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Just saw a TedX video about GPT4 from Greg and he said it doesn’t understand math very well. Time to go still

trim tusk
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I feel bad for people who have students debt. GPT-4 is only $20/month

hasty gale
trim tusk
hasty gale
trim tusk
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It will disrupt society too fast if we don’t contain it

hasty gale
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I can tell you as an engineer, and someone with a math degree, it sucks at both

trim tusk
fleet ice
hasty gale
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maybe itd be good at trading stocks or something

fleet ice
hasty gale
smoky crest
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Co founder

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He’s really cool

hasty gale
trim tusk
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I wouldn’t underestimate people who had had behind the scenes experimentation with these AI tools

hasty gale
fleet ice
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Their own teams begged to NOT release bard

hasty gale
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correct

iron stratus
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hello gpt
4

trim tusk
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All I have to say is that AI is going to outpace all humans. I don’t think anyone can argue with that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

fleet ice
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Besides Igor now left Google and probably is hired by Elon

hasty gale
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you never know, it may happen, or maybe we will integrate it into our lives

trim tusk
hasty gale
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I'd bet that google probably has the best people in the world in terms of machine learning, but they were really late to the party

trim tusk
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Does anyone know when the picture support will come to GPT-4 to the public?

trim tusk
fleet ice
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Does anyone know of Boston dynamics having any interest in GPT4?

hasty gale
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I know a few people that work on algorithms for image recognition. I don't think the issue that they have is in recognition of images, according to my colleagues it is more security related in terms of vulnerabilites

trim tusk
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Also, does anyone know why when I paste a URL from Genius with a song, then ask GPT-4 for lyrics analysis, GPT-4 will respond with the wrong lyrics? Sometimes even gives very concerning R rates lyrics that are nowhere found in the song

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@hasty gale did you make your profile pic with DALL·E 2? I did

hasty gale
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considering most people using chatgpt don't develop ML id say nobody knows

hasty gale
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its just a default

trim tusk
hasty gale
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may be wrong tho

trim tusk
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Also, does anyone know why OpenAI isn’t going to significantly reduce the cap anymore? At least, I’m assuming that because the message no longer mentions that

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It just says 25 message cap now.

lunar crow
hasty gale
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But you never know

trim tusk
lunar crow
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AI can't be creative, humans can
stuff needs emotion and meaning

lunar crow
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it's just not how computers work.

hasty gale
trim tusk
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We should move this to AI discussion lol.

hasty gale
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not really to what?

mellow solstice
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emotions are just goals injected into your consciousness for you to solve so AI can have creativity

lunar crow
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then yeah probably

hasty gale
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yeah i moved there

brisk heart
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is it just me or is the code block window so tiny on chatgpt?

smoky crest
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Just u

rare cedar
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How are you

brisk heart
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i have 27 inch screen

outer gulch
fleet ice
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GPT4 can write poetry; isn’t that creativity?

fleet ice
regal zephyr
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is there any way to get image recognition?

stiff flicker
regal zephyr
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thats literally what I am asking

tranquil pebble
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Hi How many devices can use with gpt plus in the same time

sand hull
tranquil pebble
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With one account subscription, how many devices can i use in the same time

sand hull
tranquil pebble
stiff aurora
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can we still purcahse chatgpt plus?

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declined cards all the time

tranquil pebble
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It's should be limited by i don't how much

stiff aurora
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tried all my cards

sand hull
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We can't really say any exact number here.

tranquil pebble
sand hull
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With paid access your sessions still expire, just you have priority access to getting logged back in.

fickle glade
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Hey guys, is it worth to get a paid version?

tulip summit
#

试一试

magic wave
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/ image

stiff flicker
maiden gull
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Wow what a scam. I paid for a 2nd account so I could have 25 more prompts per hour but it says I maxed out my gpt-4 prompts already and I just created a new account and upgraded it

cold ridge
maiden gull
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worked

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zenith beacon
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guys im lloking for an Ai that starts with "ph" i forgot its name , it has chatgpt4

zenith beacon
spark pilot
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I keep trying to login to CHATGPT but it gives me the following error: "We ran into an issue while signing you in, please take a break and try again soon." I've tried 1000 times. turned off vpn, cleared cached, tried multiple browsers, multiple accounts, private browser mode. Does this sound familiar?

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@spark pilot hi! btw!

median sedge
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The GPT-4 api does

leaden cape
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i said chatgpt

pseudo topaz
ember cloak
thorny valley
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AI is going to replace so many people both making it and not making it. It's not like it can be stopped because localized LLMs and other competing AI will not cease development. People should just be ready with some plans in place for when replacements will take place. It's just how it is unfortunately. If AI doesn't replace then other ways non-AI related will. There is no one way of getting rekt or success for the meantime but many many many ways.

leaden cape
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ngl i think GPT-5 will be the last LLM for quite some time

mystic nest
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it's the same for all technologies revolution, or even when robot/full self driving/etc get materialised, ppl just shift jobs 🤣 and likely, the ppl "here" wouldn't be affected that much

worthy parcel
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they are adding that functionality in the coming months

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gpt-5 is not being worked on.

worthy parcel
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not a rumor, said by the CEO himself in the recent TED talk

mystic nest
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if you know you need to change/update/upgrade, that resolve more than 1/2 the issue

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it's ppl that dont know

leaden cape
worthy parcel
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yeah plugins gives chat gpt access to the internet, files, dalle, and be able to execute code

leaden cape
delicate harness
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Hello everyone.
Stop fighting.

leaden cape
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what

delicate harness
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Can I say?

leaden cape
#

if the public thinks nothings happening they would most likely not care

delicate harness
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You are stupid!!!

worthy parcel
delicate harness
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About yours...

leaden cape
#

just because the CEO said it doesn't mean its true

worthy parcel
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???

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I mean sure but you have no proof

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and there is no reason to believe they are working on something else

delicate harness
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Can you hear from me?

worthy parcel
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they gave working demonstrations inthe ted talk

worthy parcel
delicate harness
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@worthy parcel
What are you talking about?

worthy parcel
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I was talking about them adding plugins to chatgpt, and this guy didnt believe me

trim tusk
#

Who here loves GPT-4

delicate harness
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@worthy parcel
I think it is simple.

leaden cape
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i said something about GPT-5 not plugins

worthy parcel
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oh

leaden cape
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🤨

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still dont get what @delicate harness is trying to say

fleet viper
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???

eager bluff
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When will chatgpt 4 release for free?

leaden cape
mystic nest
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when the cow comes home

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no one knows

tall scroll
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If you run out of messages in GPT4 and switch back to 3.5, are you just screwed? I see no way of switching back.

leaden cape
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click "New chat" @tall scroll

tall scroll
amber parcel
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Any news on plugins?

leaden cape
tall scroll
leaden cape
#

your feeling can differ from facts

spark pilot
#

Any help here please? I keep trying to login to CHATGPT but it gives me the following error: "We ran into an issue while signing you in, please take a break and try again soon." I've tried 1000 times. turned off vpn, cleared cached, tried multiple browsers, multiple accounts, private browser mode. Does this sound familiar?

amber parcel
leaden cape
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you can't change the model mid chat

amber parcel
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Never said that. Once GPT-4 runs out, GPT-3.5 is used from that point forward.

tall scroll
mystic nest
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if you ran out of limit, that session would become 3.5 like forever, need to start a new chat. at least that's the case previously

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manic flicker
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😀

amber parcel
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Howdy Ricky.

leaden cape
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that wasn't me but sure pal

amber parcel
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Never said it was, but I felt a reminder was needed 🙂

leaden cape
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ok?

amber parcel
#

👍

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tall scroll
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🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️

leaden cape
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gpt 4 is so much better than gpt 3 ngl

manic flicker
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Could you give me some suggestion for use this tools

leaden cape
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coding, translating, work

manic flicker
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Thanks

mystic nest
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if you are a student, the default is "homework" 🤣

tall scroll
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I use GPT4 to play a text based RPG, kind of like Dungeons and Dragons. It's incredible, really.

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And if I can't switch back to GPT4 I'm going to be sad. But I'll just start over I guess.

leaden cape
mystic nest
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you can ask 3.5 to do a summary of the actions, then paste that to the new chat, at least maybe it's not starting afresh

tall scroll
mystic nest
leaden cape
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mine don't get detected because its not in english and the tools arent trained to detected other languages

mystic nest
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and when I say homework, doesn't mean cheating, can use it to study and explain concept

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🤣

tall scroll
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I wonder if I could just copy and paste the whole chat into a new GPT4 chat... Might be too long.

mystic nest
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yeah, it's likely too long, you'd hit the cap again

leaden cape
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using chatgpt to fix your errors (grammatical and whatever) can be useful tho

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and let it tell you the errors so you don't make them again

crimson mesa
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Definitely can get it to not be detected, I’m a teacher and have researched this a fair bit. Just have to do a few extra steps and tricks. We won’t be teaching ‘English’ anymore but how to communicate with ai. I am all for it, finally a level playing field for neuro diverse students.

mystic nest
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yeah, need to look more on the good side of things. students will alway cheat anyway...

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with or without chatgpt

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"Six trainee lawyers who cheated in exam withdraw Bar admission applications" <= even at this level

glacial zealot
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Can you insert images into gbt 4 yet

crimson mesa
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School based teaching and education is a joke anyway, the sooner we enrich students learning with meta cognitive constructs of learning, critical thinking and creativity as core subjects the better

steel hill
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It just means that what and how we teach things need to change

mystic nest
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the problem is chatgpt still have hallucination problems, so education systems wouldn't allow it to be fully implemented

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at most as assist tool

crimson mesa
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They won’t allow learning full stop

steel hill
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It only hallucinates if it doesn’t have context

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If knowledge is there…is quite good

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But forget to pass in a variable to it..and it can make 100% of it up

crimson mesa
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Seriously all systems of current society are on the verge of collapse. AI is needed to simple produce a continuum. We are also on training wheels atm, I can wait till plug-in access, game over! Bring it on!

mystic nest
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it can be good for marking papers and explain the mistake 🤣 usually teachers dont give full explaination..some just "X" or big fat 0

steel hill
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I actually put a lot of work into grammar and writing for the GPT prompts

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Has a very small memory want to make the most of it

mystic nest
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I just hope it will change the "need to memorise" part of education, at least partially

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sneak in some chatgpt 4 stuff before mod comes in... gpt plugin will help a lot in many ways when it get released

steel hill
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My guess is shifts to assisted out of class work and unassisted in class

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As it’s just going to get better and harder to tell

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mystic nest
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I just watched a video on changing the Lexile Level of content, think that would be pretty interesting for educators too

wind urchin
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hey everyone

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do anyone knows about fiitjee?

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mystic nest
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I know some kids that are troubled by the "questions" itself when teachers basically ignore their reading skills which vary a lot

crimson mesa
# mystic nest it can be good for marking papers and explain the mistake 🤣 usually teachers d...

This is what I am talking about…I have 150 students, I want to give feedback, diversify content, extend, scaffold, moderate, modify, adjust etc…modern teaching, expectations and capacity to achieve all this is why there are not enough teachers right now. We need ai assistants just to meet current expectations. Also then we might move past the dumbed down curriculum and lack of student engagement. Anyone from open ai listening to this hit me up, might be good for you to have someone on the team that is willing and ready to adopt ai into education that actually has experience of what is needed

steel hill
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I see a lot of opportunities for creative people with good communication skills and some technical competence for future software development. Eventually the only requirement might be creativity, but GPT not quite there yet.

upbeat igloo
#

gpt4

steel hill
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What I have been finding, is I put so much effort into the English to explain what I want GPT 4 to write, that I am much clearer on the problem. Additionally, I’ve never had such well structured, commented, and documented code. Is a pretty massive difference in what GPT can do with excellent instructions vs poor ones.

mystic nest
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yeah, prompt engineering is a thing nowadays

steel hill
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GPT sometimes goes down the wrong path..and you need to be able to steer it… I’m guessing in a year or two..it will be much better, but that just means people will ask for more complex tasks.

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Still blows my mind though….it has some real creativity at times,

mystic nest
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we will see more complex use cases when the full multimodal features are made available

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patent salmon
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Hello everyone, I am not able to find the cancel button from 'manage subcription' tab. How do I cancel the subscription? Thank you for your kind help

mystic nest
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click on "My Plan" > "Manage My Subscription"

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you should see the cancel button

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unless somehow your UI is different from mine 🤣

patent salmon
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There is no 'Cancel' button here.

sand ice
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Hey everybody I'm doctor how can apply AI in medical sciences and what's the scope for future

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I need some insight bout it

patent salmon
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My payment method, bulling information and invoice is all empty idk why

mystic nest
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do you see the "ChatGPT Plus Subscription
$20.00 per month"?

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I mean the duration of your subscription

patent salmon
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how do i send screenshot here?

mystic nest
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you can do it in off-topic but make sure to mask your info

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but if like what you mention, there is no info then

patent salmon
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my plan is chatgpt plus usd20/month, I can still use gtp4. But, I find a way to cancel it

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can't*

brisk heart
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does anyone find any difference betwen chatgpt vs gpt 4? i feel its the same

mystic nest
brisk heart
mystic nest
patent salmon
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I did 3 days ago no reply that's why I'm here. Anyways I went to the off-topic section and asked there

mystic nest
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yeah, I saw ur screenshot, it's probably bug, so unlikely we can help

mystic nest
wind urchin
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Hey @waxen valley

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hey @serene cipher

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hey@raw sierraa

red hearth
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GPT-4 is very different in my practice.

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tulip frigate
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how good is GpT-4

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can it do maths

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better than previous 3

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stoic arch
#

what is chatgpt4?

deft spindle
#

This image shows a modern minimalist living room scene with sunlight shining on the sofa, a blue sofa, and a crimson sofa. Hope this meets your needs.

rustic grotto
#

Do you know the writer Borges?

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There are ethical considerations with using ChatGPT for medical purposes, but for what it's worth, if you're just doing science and research, it's worth knowing that ChatGPT can pass the US Medical Licensing Exam (without clinician input.) That might be useful for something you're doing. (Please consider the ethics and privacy considerations involved.) Do a google search for the article: ChatGPT Passes US Medical Licensing Exam Without Clinician Input (I can't paste the URL because of discord rules.)

mental kite
#

how do i know which one of these bots is lying to me? 3.5 says one thing and 4 says another
i'm trying to get it to read a pastebin link and 3.5 says it can and is while 4 says it can't do that?

fallen musk
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ChatGPT has no internet access at this time. So if 3.5 is saying it can read it, it's "hallucinating" (the jargon term for describing it doing something that it sincerely believes, but which has no basis in objective reality.)

mental kite
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i can't tell if 3.5 is actually reading it

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oh

#

i'm gonna go give it a piece of my mind for lying to me

fallen musk
#

It's also important to remember, it's a "large language model" or "generative pre-trained transformer" and doesn't have actual beliefs, thoughts, etc.

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The best thing to do is to press the "thumbs down" icon and explain it's telling you something that isn't true.

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OpenAI apparently reviews those, and the feedback that passes human review is added to the reward model. So it would be added as a "negative reward" to discourage it from doing something similar in the future.

mental kite
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oh idk i just cussed it out a bunch i don't really want the devs to see that in feedback whoops

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sorry

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we're friends now though again, no hard feelings from either of us

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i'll keep in mind for the future, thank you for your assistance

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🙏 💪

primal bolt
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"You've reached the current usage cap for GPT-4. You can continue with the default model now, or try again after 11:49 AM. Learn more" please fix this....

narrow reef
mental kite
vale magnet
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11

wind urchin
tacit maple
#

gpt is described as predicting the text users want to hear right? i understand how it processes text, but how do plugins fit into that? since it's not just predicting text anymore but actually having to solve problems n stufd

tranquil radish
#

we need about taxi app code

wind urchin
#

Anyone from Fiitjee?

tiny pelican
#

Everytime I try to use ChatGPT, I receive an error. I have tried everything. Nothing works. Can someone help me?

tiny pelican
wind urchin
#

Means close that app and then open it

tiny pelican
wind urchin
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restart your computer

copper mirage
#

🇮🇩

tiny pelican
wind urchin
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Okay Welcomne

timid hamlet
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@open crescent

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kir khar to kos nanat @modern mason

unkempt zephyr
#

anyone know how to fix the chatgpt errors? whenever, i input a prompt it replies with "Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com."

I don't know, what to do anymore

wind current
#

f5

unkempt zephyr
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still persists. deleted history/cache, restarted browser, restarted computer, etc.

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is chatgpt not available for free users, anymore?

pliant pagoda
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I'm on a plus subscription and chatgpt is not working for me either

unkempt zephyr
#

dang. i'm not sure, what's going on.

wind urchin
pliant pagoda
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You see anything in browser developer tools console?

wind urchin
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Btw, if you're a free user, this has nothing to do with gpt-4, so you should move to gpt-3 discussions.

lean trench
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Hello, how do I make gpt produce code without it ever saying no

pliant pagoda
#

I get this error:
No access token when trying to use AuthHeader

#

cleared cache, incognito, restarted modem. No joy.

unkempt zephyr
#

i just tried incognito and same thing occurs

pliant pagoda
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Where can you report an issue around here? Couldn't find anything on the website

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I'm on a paid plan, so I expect some kind of support option.

novel spear
#

A poem that describes the hard work and dedication of nurses,

Please present it in the form of poetry

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azure wren
#

Is the chat down for everyone else?

azure rune
#

it is working for me

unkempt zephyr
#

still down for me

azure wren
#

I just logged out and back in. It's working now.

limber violet
#

it is working for me, I'm in southern california

steel hill
#

Same , in CA too, sure they are in every data center they can find…

tired jackal
#

Why chat gpt doesn't work in Egypt??

supple violet
tired jackal
#

😢😢

#

In future it will work in Egypt??

agile bramble
#

there was a way to access it through discord

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but they took it down

tired jackal
#

Bruh

sonic plover
#

Has anyone tried to use GPT4 to search for old memes using the containing plot? Until now it looks like it completely fails with that task.

manic dragon
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Hello, does GPT-4 currently have a limit of 25 messages?

slate dragon
#

DAY 30 Waiting for plugins

pliant ocean
#

Guys I found how to get gpt 4 for free

sharp hornet
#

how

nimble vessel
manic dragon
#

Thank you for your reply. Hopefully the limit will be removed and I can get a Plus subscription.

wind urchin
#

There are some companies saying on Twitter that they have basically made re-skinned versions of GPT-4 that are free. However, it's highly disputed and a lot of people are saying that they're lieing.

fallow pond
#

hmm

pliant ocean
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Chat. Forefrontchat. AI GPT 4 FOR FREE TODAY ANNOUNCED ENJOY GUYS

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Chat. Forefrontchat. Ai

wind urchin
pliant ocean
#

Bro click the plus button and click gpt 4

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Click plus button then gpt 4 for free

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I used gpt 4 for free in this site

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100% freee

manic dragon
pliant ocean
#

Click plus button

tulip solar
#

Whats all this propaganda fr xd

#

Plus is 20$ a month "free" lol

manic dragon
mystic nest
#

he's promoting other website

manic dragon
#

He speaks for another chat room which uses the GPT-4 model

wind urchin
#

Lol, just because a button says that it's GPT-4 doesn't mean that it actually is.
Check what people are saying about it on Twitter.
It's highly likely that this company are lieing about it actually being GPT-4

Just go to Twitter and read what people are saying about it.

tulip solar
#

Which company?

wind urchin
#

Forefront

boreal ingot
#

Not a single tier app will offer to their random users to use gpt-4 indefinitely for free. Gpt4 cost a LOT of money and just a handful of people got their hands on the API. Any claim of people saying they found a workaround to work with gpt4 absolutely free is full of sh*t

manic dragon
#

Found the button, I'll check it now

tulip solar
#

Legit can't find anything but the news articles about forefront

wind urchin
#

The cost of API calls is way too prohibitive to offer this for nothing

pliant ocean
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Guys click plus button

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Then gpt 4 for free

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wind urchin
coarse yoke
#

How does ai impact in embedded software field

pliant ocean
#

Are you found

terse tide
#

hallow

tulip solar
#

This guy made discord today...

manic dragon
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Well I will say this - seems to answer the questions, you have to watch and follow it. Thanks for the information.

pliant ocean
#

Did you use gpt 4

wraith ginkgoBOT
whole kettle
pliant ocean
#

In only one site for free now

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I tested hardest math

manic dragon
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Followed them on Twitter. I will follow them and their updates.

tulip solar
#

It just... Isn't replying to me

hardy bough
#

Are you chatgpt

stiff thorn
#

is the gpt4 word limit really 25k cos when it writes code it always cuts off after like 120 lines

wind urchin
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This has worked for me

stiff thorn
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yea but does anyone know why it cuts off so early, and not when advertised

tulip solar
#

Bro the forefront AI just isn't talking to me like... At all?

wind urchin
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Asking for a few lines before it cut off means you can verify that it's actually continuing correctly from where it was

supple violet
stiff thorn
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oh

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ok

manic dragon
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It looks like the site has fallen a little due to the heavy load)

junior elbow
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chatgpt plus is expired but still able to use gpt4, is that normal?

dapper sequoia
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I agree

gray ether
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then there's me, who's in Italy and can't use it

dapper sequoia
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Woww thats depressing

manic dragon
gray ether
pliant ocean
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I don't think many people know about this site

tulip solar
manic dragon
tulip solar
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Forefront chat aren't even replying to anything

manic dragon
gray ether
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it was good while it lasted, now i can't go there anymore

pliant ocean
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NO site is working

tulip solar
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It might of been just the guys API key linked to a site....

gray ether
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but was it only banned by the Italian government or also by other governments?

tulip solar
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He prob ran out of credits

tulip solar
timber osprey
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Wow

gray ether
wind urchin
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Guys, does anyone else have issues with ''payments'' page?

**I got this error: **

The payments page encountered an error. Please try again. If the problem continues, please visit help.openai.com

I have a sub, but since yesterday I got this error, tried clearing cache/cookies, relog, even tried from another device, its still the same.

supple ibex
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Italy means what ?i,am chinese man

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i learn english in this

pliant ocean
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Guys, site works

young bronze
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Good morning everyone

wind urchin
cerulean obsidian
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Anyone has idea of Co-pilot X is out or beta waitlist?

young bronze
wind urchin
wraith ginkgoBOT
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sturdy summit
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/imegine prompt: cat students

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@wraith ginkgo

supple violet
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imagine is midjourney which has nothing to do with openai

wind urchin
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heh that prompt used to get a 60 second mute

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i think it still does if you don't typo

sturdy summit
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write a poem

golden magnet
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Hi all, I've deleted my account on ChatGPT site because I've wanted to sign up through a different method (previously I did it via google single sign on). My current situation looks like this:
I can't sign up via different method,
I can't use my previous email or phone because platform states that my account was deleted 🙂

In short it appears like my email address and phone were blacklisted 😄 Is it a bug or a feature?

knotty grotto
golden magnet
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Permanent means that my phone is remembered till the end of days and blocked?

knotty grotto
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Unfortunately you can't re use.

wind urchin
golden magnet
knotty grotto
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You can try also the solution of foxabilo

golden magnet
wind urchin
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gengar_cry Neko is just better at helping than I am

mystic nest
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support might take quite a while 🤣 so far no one have too positive experience from the email support

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in term of waiting time

knotty grotto
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And didn't expect to make world record

narrow cobalt
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What is it that causes such a big speed difference between output of GPT-3/3.5 Turbo and GPT-4?

boreal ingot
runic plume
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Are they ever gonna fix the issue where hundreds of user’s Plus subscriptions have disappeared after their last recurring payment?

Seeing so many folks that paid for Plus and are stuck using the free tier for the past few weeks. No word about refunds/extensions of subscriptions.

Emails to support and messaging the bot don’t work either.

mystic nest
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dont think there's any channel for that 🤣

icy sapphire
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Gpt 4

mystic nest
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openai employee probably would hide their identity even if they are in discord or they will get flooded

light cradle
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hello gpt-4

slender pivot
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I don't suppose we have any idea when the 25 message/3 hour rule might be raised

knotty grotto
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They don't accept DM

narrow cobalt
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Any other thoughts on the speed output of GPT4? Doesn’t seem like parameter size alone is responsible.

knotty grotto
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Please stop spamming every channel

stone jackal
knotty grotto
stone jackal
supple violet
supple violet
# stone jackal Why gpt4 no good?

well for example because it a channel for a specific model, not related to development which you need to do to make a passive source for income

supple violet
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gpt-4 is also the most expensive model and overkill to many use cases

boreal ingot
wise furnace
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I generally use gpt-3.5-turbo to test my prompts and then switch over to gpt-4.

whole kettle
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Ergh, GPT 4 just got dumbed down again, I suppose it's based on server stress.

pallid mantle
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I do not understand if gpt is dumber or not...sometimes it appear and sometimes not...as an example: for vba code it wrongs a lot for javascript less...may be it has been trained more on javascript...

supple violet
# stone jackal Overkill?

3.5-turbo can do a lot, gpt-4 is better but not worth the 20-30x more expensive cost for many tasks

pallid mantle
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then I try asking a question about holographic universe to gpt 4 vs gpt 3.5 it seams that gpt 4 is more specific and thinking about it

mystic nest
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for most ppl, if you pay a fixed subscription fee, you would want the best out of it 🤣 only api users feel the pain

supple violet
wise furnace
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I’m still in “how to use it” mode. Not “get stuff done with it” mode.

stone jackal
supple violet
boreal ingot
whole kettle
stone jackal
supple violet
whole kettle
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Perhaps my code became too complex for it, that could be the issue.

pallid mantle
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Asking small pieces of code works, then is up to you put them together...apart for VBA as I said

boreal ingot
# whole kettle Also, I can show you my prompts, I can assure you that they are anyhting but laz...

Are you using directly in the chatgpt chatbox or is it implemented into an app at the moment ?

Do you use different instances each time or are you trying to stay in the same instance for a while ? if so try using a new chatgpt instance to copy past much of the conversation and ask him to summarize it in about 300 character. Than open a brand new instance copy past the summary and ask the questions again. Can you see any difference at all ? Does it seems like the reply is more complete than what you had ? If so it was indeed a memory issue

whole kettle
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I'm thinking maybe it's because i have a huge number of instances perhaps that affects it ? Should I delete some ?

boreal ingot
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It could indeed be one of the reason maybe trying to stay between 10-15 instances max. More studies are needed about what affect the workflow on the website but it’s very probable too many chat is one of them

whole kettle
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Yeah well is there a way to download all the conversations before deleting them ?

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I mean, I have alot of stuff about the project in there and don't want to just delete it, may need it later down the line.

boreal ingot
untold stirrup
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How much RMB can I exchange for one dollar

fluid night
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Is your gpt working properly?

fluid night
whole kettle
fleet ice
fleet ice
boreal ingot
whole kettle
fleet ice
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Hmm…interesting; I have got tons of it; need to try what will google do with such a huge history email

native mirage
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how to use this

wraith ginkgoBOT
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fair iron
sleek sun
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i have 2k assignment, can gpt4 does that

unborn ermine
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YES

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It can do a whole lot of things

sand hull
sleek sun
unborn ermine
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That was not helpful

sand hull
# sleek sun does turnitin now can check it

Turnitin, GPTZero, AI text classifier, they can detect fairly well though not perfect. End of the day it's still plagarism and academic dishonesty and one wrong move gets you expelled so maybe just do your assignment like any other student.

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One of the most complex tools ever created, unlocking nearly infinite possibilities. And yet people instinctively go "how can I make this thing do my homework so I can fail the exam later".

grand ibex
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they keep making there models dumber

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its annoying

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they make so much money from plus and API and they still cant scale correctly

feral slate
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Hi everyone! I'm new here so please let me know if this is the wrong channel for this question.

I am using GPT-4 in a tool designed to assist the most active contributors/moderators of a community forum in answering user questions. In some cases, the user's issue cannot be solved by the community and they have to open a support ticket. From my testing, GPT-4 is by default pretty good at figuring out when this is necessary.

However, the process of opening a support ticket changed recently (after the knowledge cutoff in late 2021), so the generated reply will contain incorrect steps. If I include a system message with the correct steps to contacting customer support, GPT includes some variation of "If you are still experiencing issues, contact customer support by ..." at the bottom of every single response, instead of only when relevant as it did previously.

GPT's suggested replies are not shown publicly, so we can simply ignore irrelevant parts when writing a reply to the user, but I wonder if there is a way to provide additional context to GPT without that context becoming the solution to every problem?

feral lance
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So uh, that lowered usage cap was a pipe dream eh? I noticed they removed the message of expecting one 😉

dim chasm
sand hull
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Doesn't mean it can't get detected, also doesn't mean you should.

native flare
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how much gpt-4-32k?

gritty atlas
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is this free to use?

knotty grotto
unique karma
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I don’t understand why they capped gpt4 at 25 messages when I’m paying and there are now other websites offering gpt4 for free

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The cap is frustrating

knotty grotto
unique karma
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I see, but I hope they will increase the cap in the future

short musk
knotty grotto
maiden gull
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Does anybody else feel like GPT-4 has been dumbed down? It has been missing some simple stuff

mystic nest
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hard to measure or pin point if "dumb down" happened since it's generative in nature, so everyone mileage may vary

mental burrow
jade oasis
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Chat GPT for IPhone or MacBook Anyone have positive feedback? Even with alternatives?

mystic nest
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officially, there's only web chatgpt, so doesn't matter which device/os

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you mean api or the usual chat bot? if latter, just sign up "plus" paid subscription

jade oasis
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I know people are still using it and paying the fee but I am starting to see several other bots pop up and I figured I’d reach out and ask you all

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LLM’s or actually you could use BING

stable dagger
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OpenAI team - how do I file a formal complaint about the GPT4 message limit. I am paying for access and it has been limited for a month. GPT3.5 is so inferior, it is impossible to work with. And when the conversation is switched to 3.5, you cant switch back to 4.

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GPT3.5 sucks so bad at writing code.

mystic nest
jade oasis
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Open AI technically is no longer open. As mentioned, good luck.

stable dagger
jade oasis
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Do you think they’d have a bot? Lol.

feral slate
# mental burrow You could preprompt the model with new info. You could also try embeddings, but ...

Thanks! I'm already sending a system message (which is where I write the correct steps for contacting support) before the user's message - is this what you mean by pre-prompt? The problem is it causes GPT to think that contacting support is the answer to every question, which it did not do before.

I've also been experimenting with embeddings and vector search to find documentation relevant to the user's question and include it as context, but there's the same issue of GPT wanting to use that context in its reply even if it's irrelevant to the post.

stable dagger
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Well we could all cancel our Plus subscriptions. That would probably get their attention.

jade oasis
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Typo- you’d think they’d have a bot 😆

mystic nest
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they have like 140m users

stable dagger
mystic nest
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so you need to garner like 10m~30m?

jade oasis
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Again, there are no longer open. Private company/for profit I am not surprised. However, do you have access to chat GPT right now?

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They

stable dagger
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I tried Hugging Face / Chat-GPT-LangChain but it cant print code and its answers were too short and not the same as using chat.openai.com

mystic nest
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things may change, but chatgpt still the top chat bot for now and they are suffering from success 🤣

jade oasis
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WOW! That was quick! So there are bots here

jade oasis
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No one quit paying midjourney during their early days

gaunt cargo
covert lily
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how

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how can I use chatgpt?

serene cipher
unborn pulsar
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翻译以下文字:So uh, that lowered usage cap was a pipe dream eh? I noticed they removed the message of expecting one

covert lily
serene cipher
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@unborn pulsarOAI does not offer ChatGPT on this discord

serene cipher
unborn pulsar
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thx

leaden cape
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i can access chatgpt on a VPN 😎

knotty grotto
knotty grotto
# leaden cape how

It can trigger the security from openai and create a bug or access denied

leaden cape
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pretty sure the "security" is a cloudflare ruleset

lost viper
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Is it safe to use chatgpt for research paper?

mystic nest
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safe from plagiarism? no

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it can help you to find sources and references

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you can search in youtube for more details

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there are some tutorials on how to work with chatgpt for research paper purpose

serene cipher
# leaden cape how

VPNs are based on the premises that multiple users take the same public IP address, which causes the rate limiting to be shared among all the users on the same IP, this spreads the limits very thin

tight wave
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Can anyone tell me any ai for ppt

sand hull
serene cipher
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if you are use some sort of private self hosted VPN, it would work normally

wind urchin
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hemlo

serene cipher
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Cloudflare still doesn't appreciate VPNs tho

silver gyro
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Is gpt-4 get access of internet??

serene cipher
serene cipher
wraith ginkgoBOT
round mural
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how to use gpt 4 for free

grand ibex
round mural
quartz trout
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how to explain wisdom

weary dome
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Is poe inferior to openai because it doesn’t have multiple chats? Does it like any other features? I’m considering subscribing to Poe because I’m not in a country that can access openai (Hong Kong)

mystic nest
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I thought poe is just an interface to access different sources of chat bots?

oak adder
wind urchin
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Surprising as it may seem... this is the first time in my life that I feel overtaken by technology, for not understanding its transcendence.

If I wanted to create a digital driving school, how would ChatGTP4 help me TODAY? I would have to create the content, the tests, the digital platform, the apps, the payment gateway, the business model, the operations, etc.

mystic nest
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how about doing everything 20%~1000% faster?

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also of cos, depends if you have the team to do it or just outsourcing

limber frost
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what is about LLaMa +chat gpt 4 issue

noble sable
wraith ginkgoBOT
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noble sable
errant shard
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It seems to have the option to delete your account next to the export data. Does this imply that deleting your account deletes all your chats?

wind urchin
tacit steeple
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Do you know GPT4 dataset look like?

wind garnet
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cIAO

wind urchin
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Sal

mystic nest
noble sable
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Thanks for your reply. Yes indeed the number of users are estimated in that range. Most of them should be free users though, dont you think?

vestal fog
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#question hao nice

wraith ginkgoBOT
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mystic nest
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I edited it

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estimated paid users should be like 10~20% of that base

snow geyser
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what do you guys think chat gpt4 will do? 😬

low thorn
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Hei, any word on increasing the 25 message limit ? Its driving me crazy

mystic nest
noble sable
mystic nest
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cant link anything here