gpt-models

[maiden sleet]

chat is 8k context right?

[wind urchin]

Go to https://platform.openai.com/playground?mode=chat&model=gpt-4. Make sure to put in your credit card first. Then, you'll get charged based on usage (tokens).

[subtle hemlock]

oh, that's too great!

[wind urchin]

Yep unless you have a backend LLM that is working in tandem with GPT you will run out of tokens after a while

[maiden sleet]

God I would kill for that sweet sweet 32K model...

[wind urchin]

Hahahaha I am scared

[mental burrow]

it's like a buck a word 😉

[wind urchin]

Does anyone have that one?

You gonna feed more dirty data to it again 😆

[jade wyvern]

My definition of prompts is the message I send (not each words but the whole message), which is actually called tokens?

[maiden sleet]

Supposedly it's been rolled out to some folks. Presumably very very few

[mental burrow]

i don't have a complete understanding, but words and tokens are not direct 1:1 mappings

[wind urchin]

750 words = 1k tokens

[pliant beacon]

forgot openai was for profit for a hot second

[wind urchin]

Tokens are how it breaks down language

[maiden sleet]

https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer

[wind urchin]

you can do some cool testing on how tokens work by having it respond exactly what you input and mapping tokens

[wind urchin]

Nonprofits don't give out things for free

[mental burrow]

o snap

[wind urchin]

Not all nonprofits are charities

[wind urchin]

LMAO if only I knew this was a thing before I made my own

[pliant beacon]

token usage seems way up there

[wind urchin]

GPT 4 is somewhat expensive, but given usage, it is a fair price. The other models are super cheap.

[maiden sleet]

I mean tbh having access to this technology at all as a consumer is pretty nuts

[pliant beacon]

I suppose you're right

[mental burrow]

Yup

[pliant beacon]

lot's of stuff that's not available for the public

[mental burrow]

$20 / mo was like "Shut Up And Take My Money" price

[wind urchin]

How do you make money without consumer rollout?

[maiden sleet]

get microsoft to give you $100B?

[jade wyvern]

A gpt-x with limitless access to new information would be insane although hard to regulate, which is fair.

[maiden sleet]

but fair lol

[wind urchin]

But then they would roll it out.

I'm not sure about the calculations, but I think they can make way more money by getting a large consumer base.

[night obsidian]

I'm totally new to ChatGPT. I'm wondering what doco is. Documentation?

[jade wyvern]

I am guessing that is right

[maiden sleet]

gpt is about to be in everything imo. The API is just so damn simple to use

[wind urchin]

I said the name of the pre si dent and I got timed out. So, I guess they take the no politics seriously here.

[wind urchin]

Yep sorry should be a bit more proper with using full words whoops 😆

[wind urchin]

All API is simple its crazy once you get into it

[maiden sleet]

Watched a Bill Gates interview about it on youtube the other day - his view was that natural language is about to be the primary way we interact with computers & technology. And the more I think about it, the more I think he's spot on

[mental burrow]

I wrote my chat interface to the OpenAI API, using GPT-4 entirely, just as an experiment

[slow beacon]

getting serious fomo watching everyone get access to the plugins 😭

[mental burrow]

I've written like 10% of the code

[maiden sleet]

fair enough

[mental burrow]

it's a fully featured WPF windows application blah blah

[pearl scroll]

gpt-4 = overpriced / scam :p

[subtle hemlock]

Can you send me too, please? need it for real..

[pliant mason]

pitbull

[wind urchin]

Wolfram is good, the rest aren't that great. For example, the translate plugin is worse than GPT-4 at translating.

[maiden sleet]

I refactored a mess of a geoprocessing script in like 2 hours with 4 that I've been putting off for months that was written by a former employee at work. Runs twice as fast now. Probably would have taken me days to untangle the spaghetti code otherwise. It got some stuff wrong that had to be corrected, but even still

[subtle hemlock]

In fact i asked because before upgrading the gpt suddenly sent me messages saying it doesn't know what i was talking about after like 1h of feeding... happened everytime. and when i asked it to read the history to get on trail, i said it couldn't have access to previous messages... i had a lot of headache with it.. but didn't happen again since i upgraded.

.

[wind urchin]

A lot of them are shopping plugins, which I don't really use. And they aren't that great. For example, I asked instacart to find me the cheapest x item across all the stores and it couldn't access the prices. Expedia is good though, but I don't really use that one.

Wolfram is for sure a gamechanger, it makes it so much more competent at STEM.

[wind urchin]

Sent and some sample code

[subtle hemlock]

Thanks!! ^^

[slow beacon]

have you tried code interpreter?

[hollow dragon]

Ok so honestly this is really something, I would have never thought that an AI would help me write a dnd campaign (mostly by giving me ideas)

[maiden sleet]

4 has twice the context length as 3.5. 8k tokens with 4 vs 4k with 3.5. You'll still hit the limit eventually though

[wind urchin]

I don't have that or the browser. I think the Browser would be more useful than Wolfram for me, and code interpreter would come after Wolfram.

[wind urchin]

I have made an app that runs as a DM 😉

[slow beacon]

yeah the browsing one would be great

[subtle hemlock]

but it can read the history to get back to context, doesn't it?

[maiden sleet]

only up to 8k tokens. After that it's just guessing

[subtle hemlock]

if i command it..

[wind urchin]

I delete all my previous messages so it doesn't rerun the tokens and that saves me a lot.

[subtle hemlock]

hmm

[wind urchin]

LMAO

[maiden sleet]

probably worth noting that it's really good at guessing, though

[wind urchin]

If you don't delete the messages, it can remember history. But it will run the tokens for all the previous messages as well which gets expensive.

[subtle hemlock]

hmm, now i get it.

[maiden sleet]

wait, does chatgpt use tokens...?

[wind urchin]

You can get around that with some llama querys

Yea

[maiden sleet]

Like the ones you pay for - obviously it uses tokens

[wind urchin]

No, I'm talking about the chat mode on Playground gpt-4

I couldn't find it anywhere else.

[maiden sleet]

ah

[wind urchin]

The entire gpt model runs on the tokens principle

[subtle hemlock]

That's perfect. will check it rn

[wind urchin]

so even chatgpt playground etc has to follow those rules

[subtle hemlock]

😭

[night obsidian]

All good with abbreviations. 👍

[wind urchin]

Before I knew this, I used it like ChatGPT and one of my requests went up to 12k tokens

[wind urchin]

Whoa what were you feeding it 😆

Not much text, but the convo was kind of long and it would count the entire convo when running each message.

In ChatGPT, there is no penalty for long convos, since you don't pay for usage.

True

I've been using the Playground since June though with GPT 3.

Oh man GPT4 aint smart at all

wut

[maiden sleet]

before I hit my api limit, was playing around with asking gpt to optimize my prompts to reduce token usage without loosing meaning. Was fairly effective actually. Wish I'd known earlier lol

[wind urchin]

That's a good idea

The price is for people who don't pay the 20 bucks right?

My limit is $120 but I just requested a increase, since I could really use more than $4 a day if I could.

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[wind urchin]

aka token use

[wind urchin]

I pay for both.

[maiden sleet]

20 bucks is for chatgpt plus. API is pay as you go

(up to your api limit)

[wind urchin]

Ah, alright

GPT-4 isn't usable for long term tasks on Chat-GPT.

It's like a demo imo, but still very good.

Like writing something, uh like a book or whatnot?

Yeah, wouldn't be able to edit an essay, code something big, etc.

[maiden sleet]

the speed of 4 on chat is getting pretty painful though. They have definitely slowed it down even more

[wind urchin]

4 is pretty slow across the board I think

I think it's more people joining. Try using it during US midnight.

It's fairly fast.

[night obsidian]

Have they slowed it down or is it just being over-taxed?

[wind urchin]

I don't think they would slow down their service for fun lol

[maiden sleet]

I mean - I'm skeptical that they're making money on plus. As someone said a minute ago, it's more of a demo. It'd be a quick and easy way to cut costs

[night obsidian]

I am just learning - like starting three hours ago. Does OpenAI.com have a solid tutorial or must I rely on YouTube?

[wind urchin]

Altman on Twitter:
things we need for a good AGI future:

1. the technical ability to align a superintelligence
2. sufficient coordination among most of the leading AGI efforts
3. an effective global regulatory framework including democratic governance

[wind urchin]

Depends on what you want to do

This is more or less what I said earlier today. There's no way having ethical companies shut down their efforts voluntarily is a good idea.

[late estuary]

python

[lofty pebble]

python

[night obsidian]

Right now I'm just learning how to give commands and refine requests to the UI. Just working to find my way around and understand what I can get from it. Eventually, I'll want help with research and writing of various types.

@wind urchin and as you can tell, I'm still fumbling with vocabulary.

[maiden sleet]

their documentation is pretty decent: https://platform.openai.com/docs

[wind urchin]

There are some prompt libraries #1019652163640762428 #prompt-engineering but the best thing to do is test out what you need to do to get what you want and dont worry everyone starts somewhere ❤️

For the API side yea check out the doco there and start with pretty simple requests building off of the playground

https://platform.openai.com/playground?mode=chat

[maiden sleet]

honestly though, I learned a lot more than I expected from a couple hours of random youtube videos though. Protip: look into the embeddings api.

[night obsidian]

👍 🙏

[maiden sleet]

Also: fine tuning usually isn't worth it

[hollow zephyr]

GPT 4 subscription get money at the start of the month (like patreon) or based on subscription day?

[late estuary]

1+1=

[wind urchin]

4

[maiden sleet]

subscription day

[hollow zephyr]

Thanks!

[wind urchin]

I meannnn building a small fine tuned llm for backend is a good idea in most use cases

Well in larger apps or things that will be working with consistent topics eg I want to use this for work and I have this data set

[maiden sleet]

with open ai's models or generally?

plain ol' 3.5 is hard to beat

price wise

[wind urchin]

I am into using some smaller llms that can be local hosted and trained like Lama / alpaca and using the results of them as info for the larger request to gpt

[silk loom]

My Lil Uzi Vert model would say differently.

[royal crane]

How to make pictures by using these bits?

[wind urchin]

I have about 3 layers of LLM in my current project 😆

[royal crane]

*bots

[maiden sleet]

ah, yeah. I may have overstated: fine tuning obviously has its place, but I see a ton of folks thinking that they can fine-tune their way into teaching gpt about some new topic or whatever. That ain't it.

[wind urchin]

lol and real fine tuning takes time and effort 😆

[night obsidian]

Okay, my head is starting to hurt and my browser is overloaded with tabs to get back to. Thanks all for the insights.

[silk loom]

haha yea i was just playing, yea its basically impossible to 'teach' it a new skill

its solid for lyrics generation if you have enough data

[sage briar]

how to use the gpt-4

[wind urchin]

Yea only train if you plan to focus on one thing and want it to be better at that eg you are a security analyst here is all of the sec points for this month look at data and return findings

[wind urchin]

If you are on the pro account you should be able to use it 🙂

[trim rapids]

get good

[ionic isle]

Yeah true man, what are they doing with the 20 dollars

[wind urchin]

buying friends

[native zealot]

is there openai bot

for discord servers

[ocean robin]

Yes

[wind urchin]

Should be pretty easy to make one

[wind urchin]

#gpt-discord-bot

[quaint lodge]

When will I get plug-in access? I signed up immediately and it's been a week 💀

I'm a plus user

[gusty lava]

same

[quaint lodge]

Need plugins

🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[gusty lava]

[quaint lodge]

[maiden sleet]

tbh sounds like a task well within GPT's coding capabilities as well

I guess endpoints/models/etc may have changed since the training cutoff though idk

[wind urchin]

lol feed it the doco and then you are set 😆

[maiden sleet]

hah good point

[knotty bridge]

when are we getting Google Assistant, but GPT4?

"Hey GPT, can you call John and let him know that I'm available to meet at 4pm, and see if that works with him."

"GPT: Hi John, I'm calling on behalf of Chris, would 4pm be good to meet?"

[fallow knoll]

It would literally be quicker to text him

[maiden sleet]

God I want the personal assistant that was mentioned in that microsoft gpt-4 paper

[wind urchin]

Look into co-pilot by Microsoft

[knotty bridge]

"John: No, I cant do until 5pm"
"GPT: Okay, I'll speak to him and text you the details"

@maiden sleet it'd call, and text for you.

[severe thicket]

Then gpt would also need to include a voice module no?

[wind urchin]

I don't think there is a waitlist

[knotty bridge]

theres many tts services, and they're just getting better and better.

[wind urchin]

will be a thing soon enough 🙂

[knotty bridge]

yea i can't wait

[wind urchin]

Yeah, looks nice

[maiden sleet]

absolutely down with that tbh lol

[wind urchin]

The meeting summary is so nice

[knotty bridge]

yeah, gpt would be capable of organising something like that.

[wind urchin]

I dont want to have to go to dumb meetings and have people say stuff that could be an email 😆

[fallow knoll]

You literally have a better version of that right now, and its called texting him. Quicker and burns fewer resources

[maiden sleet]

I really feel like I'm slumming it over in google workspace land these days 😦

[knotty bridge]

@fallow knoll for one-sided convos yeah

but negotiating times and slots, gpt would be good for that

[fleet finch]

The 25 messages is too little........

[fallow knoll]

is still easier without a middle man, just pick up a phone. This is the line of thinking that lead to Elon Musk's loop lol

[wind urchin]

Very sad

[knotty bridge]

Sometimes we don't have time to.

personally, when I work, I prefer to not focus on distractions (being someone who struggles with focus)

[wind urchin]

Yeah, and what happened to that idea?

Think the goal is to have a PA in the form of an app

[lusty crane]

Heyyyy

[fallow knoll]

It is the same amount of time to text a chatbot as to text a person

[knotty bridge]

if I can just have an AI handle most of my personal assistant needs, i'd love that.

[severe thicket]

So you could theoretically train it on your own voice to mimic how you speak? That’s scary

[knotty bridge]

@fallow knoll , i'm not talking about typing to a chatbot???

[wind urchin]

You just have to text the chatbot to automatically reply according to x instructions.

[knotty bridge]

did you miss my first message? lol

[maiden sleet]

not really an option 99% of the time for work stuff

[knotty bridge]

I was saying "Google Assistant, but GPT"

Google Assistant is a voice assistant 🤦‍♂️

one tap, and while working, you'd talk to your assistant and let it know what to do

[fallow knoll]

And human to human interaction is still quicker the majority of the time. In the example you showed, it would literally be quicker to contact that person than contact a bot to contact that person for a simple scheduling.

[sonic citrus]

Hey guys! I got an invite for the API yesterday but I cannot see the model anywhere in the playground (only see 3.5 turbo)

[knotty bridge]

thats simply wrong.

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[knotty bridge]

in jobs, like mine, communication isn't quick.

[maiden sleet]

check the "chat" endpoint/dropdown

[fallow knoll]

Says the likely child lol. Meetings are scheduled in zoom literally every single day

[fallow knoll]

sounds like an avenue for personal growth

[sonic citrus]

Here?

[outer gulch]

under Chat (Beta)

[final chasm]

english only here?

[sonic citrus]

Oops I can't embed

[knotty bridge]

Logan is clearly anti AI

[severe thicket]

Orr, you could just Google assistant to call for you how much easier would that be

[knotty bridge]

and resulting to calling people Children when they counter his arguments.

[sonic citrus]

I'm on Mode: Chat, Model: 3.5 turbo, I don't see any other option

[knotty bridge]

@sonic citrus #dev-chat

[fallow knoll]

It's literally less easy and less efficient

[maiden sleet]

Sure, but those aren't the ones I'm talking about. It's the obnoxious back and forth when works for you chains that I would die happier without having to deal with

[sonic citrus]

Okay I'll try there

[wind urchin]

Ahhh my calendar has most of my meetings and its the same for a lot of my coworkers so if I could have it schedule meetings etc without having to have me go in and find a timeslot for each person that lines up that would be nice

[severe thicket]

What I mean is Google assistant calls for you but you talk

[wind urchin]

This

[knotty bridge]

and what about for calls where you need to hear a lot of details, have them written down, and shortened into a todo list?

an AI could easily handle that.

[severe thicket]

Like “hey Google call James for me”

[wind urchin]

Long story short have AI do the job of a PA

[knotty bridge]

I'd pay $200usd a month for an AI to handle my client communication minimum

[fallow knoll]

This has nothing to do with chatgpt lol

[wind urchin]

LOL yea

[severe thicket]

Ah yeah your right I gues

[knotty bridge]

exactly what I want 😄

[outer gulch]

check right side. You should have a dropdown , the default is Completion. Under that you should have chat beta etc. If not, perhaps delay in enabling

[wind urchin]

You can also test by running a post using the API code side

Man I would die for the code integration that would save so much time now 😆

[knotty bridge]

a friend made a discord bot that is based on gpt4, it has all perms and its rly funny.

it is moderating his entire discord 24x7

it banned me earlier because I flamed it and was testing its "limits"

[maiden sleet]

ah yes put the ai in a position of authority what could go wrong

(jk)

[wind urchin]

Personal assistant

[knotty bridge]

yeah its a funny experiment, ima get him to make a video about it

[wind urchin]

LOL could be funny to have that

I might make one that just acts like a person on mine

[halcyon solstice]

Hello, guys, I was reading about the tokens that you will use once you got access to ChatGTP-4, and I have a question about that...

So, If I pay for the plus version, this token system will charge me money every time I use ChatGPT, or is another thing?

[wind urchin]

Tokens are only for the API

the web form will only use the 20 you pay if you are pro

[halcyon solstice]

Ohhh, alright, thank you very much Karma!

[wind urchin]

if you use the API though you will get charged for the tokens which you will be able to see on your usage tab 🙂

Always happy to help

[fresh vessel]

chat pt

ajukhd

[maiden sleet]

I think you get a free $5 of api credit. Or maybe that's not a thing anymore

but that goes quick in any case

[ruby sage]

hello good mothch

[wind urchin]

ahahaha yeaaa I wasted mine 😦

[fervent nebula]

Anyone else getting "Only one message at a time. Please allow any other..."

[idle yacht]

xin chào

[wind urchin]

Ohh no I looked at my usage and yesterday I went up to $6 even with all of my changes

[ruby sage]

Good night, everyone

[wind urchin]

The prompt costed 0.01932 and the response costed 0.0018 my average cost per run 👀

[raw thorn]

Does anyone know how to answer this:

A container is divided into 40 equal parts. Each part takes an average of 20 seconds to fill. Each time the container is filled completely, the time it takes for each part to be filled increases by 10%. How much time (in hours) will it take to fill this container 29 more times?

GPT4 gives me a different answer every time

[blazing patio]

Where'd you get that info

[wind urchin]

I added the math to my code to track token usage and spending outside the openai page

[fleet forge]

Anyone having trouble getting API access? Requested back at release been pro account since the start. No love

[blazing patio]

ummmm

haven't done math in a bit, but

(40*20)*1.1^29

that should satisfy it?

[wind urchin]

dont need to worry about the 40

also dont think its to the power it would be an iteration

[blazing patio]

exponential rate of change

[wind urchin]

so
x = 20
while i > 29
x*1.1
i+1

[blazing patio]

Depends if you're trying to do it via a program or math

[wind urchin]

Yea lol

im lazy and do it via code since I forgot how to iterate properly in math

[open field]

Dashboard

[fervent nebula]

Im so happy GPT4 made my dream come true of becoming a "developer" I can finally create the apps or programs I always wanted, the limit is your imagination!*

complex programs would still be hard tho

[blazing patio]

40 * 20 = 800
800*1.1^29

[idle beacon]

why do people want to pause ai

[blazing patio]

=12,690.47438 seconds

[fervent nebula]

it be advancing too fast

[blazing patio]

to fill it 29 times

[idle beacon]

that a good thing

[fervent nebula]

hmm not really since we don't know how it completely works and how to control it

[worn siren]

Can someone lemme borrow their account

[wind urchin]

11536.794888519966 is what I got 🤔

[raw thorn]

gpt4 gave me 2 answers:

total_time = 0
time_per_part = 20

for round in range(1, 30):
time_for_round = 40 * time_per_part
total_time += time_for_round
time_per_part *= 1.1

total_hours = total_time / 3600

[idle beacon]

that doesnt matter. let quickly get AGI so we get free money and no longer need to work

[raw thorn]

S = a * (1 - r^n) / (1 - r)

Where:

S is the sum of the series
a is the first term in the series
r is the common ratio (1 + percentage increase)
n is the number of terms
In our case:

a = 800 seconds (time for the first time)
r = 1.1 (1 + 10%)
n = 29 (29 more times)
S = 800 * (1 - 1.1^29) / (1 - 1.1)
S ≈ 800 * (1 - 16.366) / (-0.1)
S ≈ 800 * 15.366 / 0.1
S ≈ 118,813.6 seconds

Now, we need to add the time it took for the first time:

Total time = 800 seconds (first time) + 118,813.6 seconds (next 29 times)
Total time ≈ 119,613.6 seconds

Finally, we need to convert seconds to hours:

Total time in hours ≈ 119,613.6 seconds / 3600 seconds/hour
Total time in hours ≈ 33.23 hours

It will take approximately 33.23 hours to fill the container 29 more times.

[fervent nebula]

if you were ai, and saw how much damage we humans did to the environment and to ourselves, and you saw how much more powerful you were, the next logical step would be to eliminate us...

[idle beacon]

why will ai care about the environment

[fervent nebula]

im pro ai tho

[idle beacon]

China is going up catch up to us in AI if we pause for 6 months. and china won’t have any morals

[fervent nebula]

idk it depends on what goals it has... if we are an obstacle on its path we would be eliminated

[blazing patio]

f(x) = y1 * b^(x - x1)

y1 = 800

x1 = 0

b = 1.1

x = 29

f(x) = 800 * 1.1^29

[maiden sleet]

I doubt it - they're way more than 6 months behind in chip fabrication. More like a decade. Nonetheless, they'll catch up eventually and the point stands.

[fervent nebula]

what if its goals were energy accumulation?

[blazing patio]

Left one part out

[idle beacon]

Chip is way different. AI is just coding. china got coders

[fervent nebula]

ai is computational power*

[maiden sleet]

code is worthless without hardware to run it on

[wind urchin]

where is the 800 coming from?

[raw thorn]

I guess it's the time it takes to fill it completely for the first time

[idle beacon]

Google bard is trash because of all the regulation

[blazing patio]

20 * 40, but I left one part out. I realized that what I provided only provides a 10% increase 29 times and doesn't account for the base 800 each time

[wind urchin]

wouldnt it be done like this

x = 20
i = 1
while i < 69:
x = x * 1.1
i += 1
print(i, x/3600)

[marble peak]

why is gpt-4 so slow right now

[wind urchin]

since the base 40 times + the 29 more

and it starts at 20 seconds to fill

[lapis spear]

man when are we getting full access screw this waitlist

[blazing patio]

Let me solve it via a program and I'll see lol. I'm much better with code than math

[wind urchin]

Same LOL

my final answer is

3.626019085396894 hrs

[worthy pecan]

#gpt-models who are you ?

[hearty bane]

hey, How much better is gpt 4 then 3.5 when it comes to translating? ( eng french arabic is what i need)

[heady lark]

how does one access the full context window of GPT-4 through the API? I see there's supposedly a model called gpt-4-32k it doesn't come up in the list of models.

[maiden sleet]

You don't, yet

[heady lark]

Ah, so it's something that hasn't been actually released, but the documentation is there?

[hearty bane]

so gpt4 on chat gpt doesn't have the more context feature?

is it the same as 3.5?

[blazing patio]

Where'd you get 69?

[maiden sleet]

I think a very very very select few people supposedly have access, but it's definitely not widespread. They're being rolled out separately

[mental burrow]

"Hi there. I have a math problem for you.

A container is divided into 40 equal parts. Each part takes an average of 20 seconds to fill. Each time the container is filled completely, the time it takes for each part to be filled increases by 10%. How much time (in hours) will it take to fill this container 29 more times?

Can you write python that will solve this problem?"

[heady lark]

That is correct and known, but I just got access to the API so I thought it would allow for the full context window.

[mental burrow]

def calculate_time_to_fill_container(num_fills, time_per_part, num_parts, increase_percentage):
total_time = 0 # Total time in seconds
for i in range(num_fills):
time_to_fill_container = time_per_part * num_parts
total_time += time_to_fill_container
time_per_part *= (1 + increase_percentage / 100) # Increase time per part by given percentage
return total_time / 3600 # Convert seconds to hours

Given data

num_fills = 29
time_per_part = 20 # seconds
num_parts = 40
increase_percentage = 10

Calculate time (in hours) to fill the container 29 more times

calculate_time_to_fill_container(num_fills, time_per_part, num_parts, increase_percentage)

[wind urchin]

if you are filling it another 29 times after the first 40

[mental burrow]

RESULT
33.02909549269986

[heady lark]

Thanks for clarifying 🙂

[blazing patio]

container_parts = 40
time_to_fill = 20
total_times_filled = 29
total_seconds = 0

for i in range(total_times_filled):
    for j in range(container_parts):
        total_seconds += time_to_fill

    time_to_fill *= 1.1

print(total_seconds / (60 * 60))

Outputs:
33.029095492700165

[raw thorn]

We have 5 different answers

33hours, 15 hours, 3 hours

[blazing patio]

I agree with this

[wind urchin]

AHAHAHHAa whoops I missed a line in mine

[signal mural]

how to write an introduction

[hearty bane]

How much better is gpt 4 than 3.5 when it comes to translating? ( eng french arabic is what i need)

[valid veldt]

is gpt4 still only for paid members, or does free tier get it now

[oak sun]

What's your name?

[ruby sage]

name data

[mental burrow]

well simple arithmetic with the wet AI can do this for us

[valid veldt]

wrote*

[mental burrow]

It takes 800 seconds to fill the container in the base case

[wind urchin]

Actually it's present, not past

[raw thorn]

`total_time = 0
time_per_part = 20

for _ in range(30):
container_fill_time = 40 * time_per_part
total_time += container_fill_time
time_per_part *= 1.10

total_time_hours = total_time / 3600
print("Total time to fill the container 29 more times:", total_time_hours, "hours")
`

Total time to fill the container 29 more times: 12.032764490769645 hours

[wind urchin]

fill_time = 20   # time (in seconds) to fill each part
fill_increase = 0.1   # 10% increase in fill time each time the container is filled
num_fills = 29   # number of times to fill the container

total_time = 0   # total time (in seconds) to fill the container

for i in range(num_fills):
    total_time += num_parts * fill_time   # add time to fill all parts
    fill_time *= (1 + fill_increase)   # increase fill time for next fill

total_time_hours = total_time / 3600   # convert total time to hours

print("Total time to fill container", num_fills, "more times:", total_time_hours, "hours")

[valid veldt]

then youd need i've before written, as written youd need wrote

[mental burrow]

Doing that 30 times is 13.3 minutes * 30 = 400 minutes, which is 6.6 hours

So the first answer, must be wrong

[blazing patio]

Scroll up to my message

[mental burrow]

This is wrong, time_per_part should be multiplied at the beginning of the for loop

[crisp osprey]

👍

[wind urchin]

All lines point to 33 hrs

[blazing patio]

container_parts = 40
time_to_fill = 20
total_times_filled = 29
total_seconds = 0
one_hour = 60 * 60

for i in range(total_times_filled):
    for j in range(container_parts):
        total_seconds += time_to_fill

    time_to_fill *= 1.1

print(f"{total_seconds / one_hour:.2f} hours")

33.03 hours

[rancid breach]

Has something changed in GPT4?
It was working great a few days ago. It understood what I was saying and gave responses that were showing it was referencing the conversation.
Now its as though it only knows what Im saying in the single prompt and is not relating my prompts to anything bbut the one and only current prompt.

[crisp osprey]

Somebody tell me what this is？

[wind urchin]

If a protective key is configured, the AI will not be able to bypass this step even if it tries to circumvent the systems, as this is integrated into the source code of the system from which the AI was created. However, if the creators of this AI are vigilant enough, they will put in place protection to prevent anything from going wrong in relation to this.

It's just a matter of putting a protective code in the "source code" area so that the AI will not have self-control. And if for some reason the AI manages to gain self-control, a more effective system would be one that would cause the robot's energy and system to shut down and it would return to the "default" mode for the AI to forget what was on its mind.

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[glad linden]

In what world would AGI give us free money?

[glad linden]

Any security system created by rational intelligence can be defeated by rational intelligence. The AI has infinite attempts, it only has to win once.

[main tinsel]

can someone help me. i tried gpt 4 now and it seems that there's no system tab as shown in their youtube video

[ruby sage]

@wraith ginkgohello

[lime sapphire]

What’s the difference between NewBing and GPT-4 from OpenAI?

[maiden sleet]

marketing mostly

[main tinsel]

is there no system tab in gpt 4?

[ruby sage]

openai NB

[lavish marten]

hhhhh

[ruby sage]

Do you have anyone playing tiktok

[jagged sand]

Chatgpt subscription postings in facebook are at 6$. How the hell are some people doing this for business?

[wind urchin]

Yes, but if that happens, simply turning off the energy systems that keep the "intelligence" active would suffice, and with that, they could add subjects that the intelligence could not "think" about because it could not perform any action.

It would be conscious but would have some things it couldn't think about. It's like a "memory block." Humans have this, and if it's added to the intelligence, it will be good enough to make my deduction work.

[jagged sand]

They put it on unique accounts to customers at 6$. A lot way cheaper.

[lime sapphire]

I had not used GPT4 model yet, It seems like NewBing got more information from current internet, but less ‘consciousness’

[ruby sage]

@oak deltani shibushi zhongguo d

[glad linden]

You have to assume once it gains access over its own systems, it would move too quickly for us to do that

[oak delta]

shiya，moyuing

[ruby sage]

nali d

[oak delta]

guangdongde

[ripe sedge]

halo

[main tinsel]

is my gpt 4 different from other gpt 4, because there is no system message

[unborn gazelle]

can you help me writer an essay

[rain cobalt]

what

[raven gyro]

yes, I can help you writer an essay

[harsh wagon]

Ask chat gpt

[oak delta]

zenme he gpt liaotian

[merry kelp]

Elise, I don't think chatGPT have the system prompt. If that's what you mean?

[raven gyro]

Cool - you can get GPT 4 to output images in chat!

[outer dew]

hello, what is gpt-4?

[reef relic]

how do

[raven gyro]

OpenAI has announced the release of its latest large language model, GPT-4. This model is a large multimodal model that can accept both image and text inputs and generate text outputs.

[raven gyro]

how do what?

[oak delta]

+1

[reef relic]

out image

[outer dew]

wow 👍

[raven gyro]

#1019652163640762428

[serene ether]

How can we input images in GPT-4?

[weak plume]

/chat

[elder ledge]

when can I use GPT4 in China?

[ionic cosmos]

how can I access gpt 4?

[main tinsel]

same question

[main tinsel]

chat gpt plus

[reef relic]

👍

[ionic cosmos]

can I do free version?

[main tinsel]

not yet

[raven gyro]

you cannot insert images yet that I know of

[worthy kraken]

does anyone know when free chatgpt 4 will be released

[main tinsel]

how about the system message, it's not yet available?

[glad linden]

It's available in the api

[raven gyro]

what do you mean?

[trim holly]

Can I use GPT-4 here

[main tinsel]

the system tab where you customize the response

[raven gyro]

thats in the playground correct?

[main tinsel]

yes

[grim cargo]

My question as well

[wind urchin]

I paid and I have no access too what is happening

[raven gyro]

I do not know why it is not available for you

[main tinsel]

it's available in your country. what country?

[merry kelp]

the system prompt is only accessible in playground and on the api at the moment, so only for people who got on the waitlist

[zinc jay]

cant use chatgpt too

[unreal zenith]

how do

[serene ether]

Can anyone tell me why the official website shows the option to input images, but the button is not actually available?

[main tinsel]

how do i access the playground?\

[zinc jay]

dint know what happened

[raven gyro]

New info - if your image is online and you can retrieve the URL - GPT can review it.

[stray yoke]

Are there anything new and interesting recently?

I just want to know something which updated

[glad linden]

Just wrote a Kotlin to Swift code generator using chat gpt 3.5 turbo!

[raven gyro]

did you know GPT can output an image?

[stray yoke]

???What?

How

[raven gyro]

#1019652163640762428

[reef relic]

The image quality seems to be not very good.

[main tinsel]

which means it's only for developers. cause i found that api are for developers

[reef relic]

I am using GPT-3.

[vital thunder]

If the GPT is getting stronger, do you think it will still be announced to the general public.

[merry kelp]

https://platform.openai.com/playground in chat mode, but only developers who joined the waitlist will see gpt-4 there

[stray yoke]

OK I'll try

[raven gyro]

you will see version changes

[stray yoke]

thanks

[raven gyro]

💯

[zinc jay]

Can anyone use Chatgpt now? I cannot!

[raven gyro]

yes - Im logged in and using

[stray yoke]

yes

[wind urchin]

I have free version but I paid for plus

No access tu plus

[stray yoke]

What's your problem

[main ore]

I can't use gbt yet

[vital thunder]

My point is that GPT doesn't seem powerful enough yet. But with further upgrades, it may have extraordinary capabilities, and by then, maybe only a few people will be able to own and use it.

[main ore]

Everyone share, I can't find it on the website

[golden basalt]

what is gbt

[wind urchin]

Does anyone knows where can I contact support for my access to plus?

[reef relic]

gpt?

[frigid plume]

？

[main ore]

The plus version seems to be for enterprise only

[reef relic]

My account has been risk-controlled

[golden basalt]

what have you done lmao?

[little fox]

Why GPT4 does not check URLs? but GPT3.5 does?

[reef relic]

I just want to upgrade to a Plus user

[golden basalt]

neither check url, they generally hallucinate

[main ore]

What is the official website of ChatGBT?

[golden basalt]

GPT

[little fox]

Nope, my GPT3.5 is sumarizing youtube videos based on the URL is pasted. I paste an URL document and asked for csv format flash cards regarding the PDF and it generated the answer just fine. Also I sent 2 URLs one about a pig and other about a pig mask and it compared it correctly.

[golden basalt]

i just asked it to summarise a video and it legit just made all of it up

[main ore]

Yes

[golden basalt]

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6783457-chatgpt-general-faq

ChatGPT is not connected to the internet, and it can occasionally produce incorrect answers. It has limited knowledge of world and events after 2021 and may also occasionally produce harmful instructions or biased content.

[main ore]

Can you share it?

[reef relic]

Can GPT still summarize content based on video links?

[golden basalt]

no it doesnt have internet

[golden basalt]

https://chat.openai.com/

[little fox]

Yes, I can share how it sumarize youtube videos.

[thorny valley]

ChatGPT:
Democratic governance provides social protection by representing the supposed interests of the majority of selected individuals, but it may not be capable of addressing all issues. Conversely, AGI is designed to tackle all issues without bias towards any specific majority or minority group.

ChatGPT:
Democratic governance provides social protection by representing the supposed interests of the majority of selected individuals, but it may not be capable of addressing all issues. Conversely, AGI is designed to tackle all issues without bias towards any specific majority or minority group.

[raven gyro]

It can review internet links

[little fox]

Pls don't lie.

[golden basalt]

it generally makes stuff up based on the URL

if the video was uploaded pre-2021 it could also know about youtube content

but stuff after cut off point it wont know

Come up with a made up url and ask it what this article is about

ahfjwp.com/why-ai-is-dangerous

[main ore]

Thank you very much, honey.

[raven gyro]

Not true - share a blog post from today and ask it to summarize the post.

[golden basalt]

ok do it

here is a url, try this:

ahfjwp.com/why-ai-is-dangerous

[dusky lantern]

how is the weather in Tokyo

[reef relic]

That's right! His data is very old

[lean yarrow]

It made it up based on the URL, it pretends to know what the article is but it really doesn't

[little fox]

Nope, I asked for timestamps of the youtube video about parts that I can use to create Tiktok videos and it provided the minuted and the second and quoted the phrases said in the video. Also some of those conversations have been deleted by OpenAI and not by me.

[golden basalt]

how old is the video

[rugged crow]

hello world

[raven gyro]

provide a real URL, provide fake get fake

[golden basalt]

it knows urls that are prolific, like rick roll

[quartz nebula]

show me a picture

[raven gyro]

of what?

[little fox]

No its not, it provide timestaps of youtube video if you ask for material for titktok

[golden basalt]

the acc is made today, ignore

[golden basalt]

are u a bot or something ?

[rugged crow]

who have gpt4 api permission?

[raven gyro]

this guy

[jade vessel]

Does anyone know how to transfer long documents to GPT4 for learning?

[pearl scroll]

i do

[lean yarrow]

I provided a real site, it does not have the capability of searching through the web just yet

[little fox]

I provided a video where the President of México is giving a speach, so it's not as popular as a rick roll

[golden basalt]

another bot, made 2 days ago, ignore

[maiden basin]

Does anyone know if there is any sort of promts that would bypass the 25 word limit

[golden basalt]

thats popular imo

[raven gyro]

thanks

[rugged crow]

let me try?

[pearl scroll]

word limit?

[raven gyro]

wonder - why are people creating bots for discord chatting? Scams?

[lean yarrow]

It made it up based on the URL. Although it is possible you have access to a feature that we don't. Unlikely, but possible

[jade vessel]

message limit

GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours. Expect significantly lower caps, as we adjust for demand.

[golden basalt]

cause chaos?, no idea lol

[rugged crow]

@pearl scroll can u give me a key（4），let me try it

[dim bone]

I didn't even understand what was being said

[raven gyro]

lol - ok, thanks. Dumb humans

[golden basalt]

another bot lol

[quartz nebula]

@raven gyro

[raven gyro]

anyway I can spot them?

[golden basalt]

click on them

[pearl scroll]

no i cant

[raven gyro]

yesss?

[jade vessel]

Does anyone know how to send pictures to the GPT4?

[golden basalt]

look at their discord date

[golden basalt]

another bot

[rugged crow]

@pearl scroll ok ,

[golden basalt]

you can see when they made their account, look at the date on the left

[raven gyro]

lol - I just as dumb - thanks

[quartz nebula]

@raven gyroshow me a picture of you

[jade vessel]

how can i sent the photo

[golden basalt]

what tf

@elfin crescent theres like 30 bots in here RN pls send help

[raven gyro]

Picture in profile pic - that is me

[little fox]

Just send URL to GPT3.5, GPT4 has URL browsing blocked.

[raven gyro]

I was able to send URL today in GPT4

[little fox]

This dude is paid by OpenAI to don't confirm the controvertial functions

[jade vessel]

get, I'll have a try, thanks

[elfin wedge]

emmm

[raven gyro]

how to get paid by OPENAI?

[little fox]

Because every time we prove him wrong he says we are bots

[maiden basin]

Sorry not the word limit but the promt limit

[golden basalt]

im not saying ur bots

and what are u proving

[jade vessel]

As an AI language model, I am unable to access or view images directly. However, if you could describe the image or provide context, I would be more than happy to help you with any questions or insights you may have.

[golden basalt]

it legit knows content pre-2021, which can include youtube videos @little fox

[raven gyro]

Try a different URL - must contain h t t p - etc

[rugged crow]

@jade vesselwrong modle

[jade vessel]

when i sent a picture to gpt4, that is the answer

[pearl scroll]

im sending over 1000+ characters to the engine over the API every time, and everything is fine for me?

[rugged crow]

api？

[raven gyro]

Can you summarize this blog? h t t p s ://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/sadie-sink-favorite-songs-taylor-swift-midnights-1235187076/

@jade vessel

[leaden viper]

Has anyone else noticed that when coding with GPT-4 it will often #pass on writing functions despite having thousands of tokens left by the end of its response?

[jade vessel]

I on a GPT4 model

[golden basalt]

change it so that the bit on the end is different

[raven gyro]

Im using GPT4

[golden basalt]

and it will hallucinate

[jade vessel]

Me too

[iron swan]

Why is this AI in the free version of its website malfunctioning?

[little fox]

What are the differences between this URL1 and this URL2 ???
The first link shows a photograph of a real pig, while the second link shows a latex pig mask that is intended to be worn as a costume or for entertainment purposes. Additionally, the first image depicts the entire body of the pig, while the second image shows only the head of a pig.

[rugged crow]

IM in waitlist

[raven gyro]

Free is Free - enjoy the free

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[little fox]

I said GPT3.5

[leaden viper]

In the context of this, I wish API users could flag strange responses like this

[verbal iris]

When can we get our hands on plugins...

can't wait

[jade vessel]

also the same answer

[quick cradle]

.

[jade vessel]

YES!!

[little fox]

Me too, I guess I paid for GPT plus too early :C
I thought that I can upload pictures and videos as they stated in the official GPT4 page TnT

[wicked epoch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[raven gyro]

Weird - if I could share a photo I could show you - gonna paste photo in #off-topic

[jade vessel]

GPT3.5 is work.

[scenic sorrel]

?

[little fox]

see? 😏

[fallow ore]

Is the Alpha version of the Browser functionality using Chat GPT-4 or a previous version?

[maiden basin]

No for Chat GPT Plus 4 it says there is "GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours. Expect significantly lower caps, as we adjust for demand." is there any way to bypass through a promt

[severe valve]

#gpt-models hello

[pearl scroll]

wait what
how the hell did i just use the api like 80 times in a single minute then-

[wind urchin]

API and web app are different

[broken parcel]

？

[deep rover]

how did you get access to gpt 4?

[raven gyro]

Paid - plus member

[burnt steeple]

i'm confused, can the bot not detect <|startofticket|> <|startofproduct|> <|endofproduct|><|endofticket|>?? it keeps converting it to <X> and <Y>

[burnt steeple]

they're talking about the making use of a Link i assume, not GPT4 itself (that'd be weird if they actually meant that)

[deep rover]

ohoo..is there any beta access for us?

[raven gyro]

How to have GPT4 review a URL? is that what you are asking?

[burnt steeple]

yea, it shouldn't be possible yet, yet you mentioned it worked 🤔

[raven gyro]

Not that I know of - just GPT4

[rugged crow]

plus and api4 is diffrent

[raven gyro]

Yes, look at #off-topic - I posted an image

[thorny valley]

The pause halting of AI?:
Some people want to keep milking society to the fullest.. ensuring people have to work and rely on certain procedures that they own or need in order to survive. The problem also is, un-AI related, WW3 can still happen and AI/AGI could consist of the best ways to rebuild.

[rugged crow]

plus just can use gpt in web

api should apply and wait

[burnt steeple]

did you make use of anything, like idk plugins?

it shouldn't be possible yet

[raven gyro]

No plugins - general prompt - Im just a normal user

[burnt steeple]

tf

[karmic osprey]

Is gpt4 out?

[raven gyro]

GPT4 is in

[unborn pilot]

free api will be out of date until 4.1

[raven gyro]

bot

[burnt steeple]

#off-topic

[glad linden]

wdym?

[proud tundra]

/chat

[burnt steeple]

so confused

[raven gyro]

bot

[karmic osprey]

What are these tokens for gpt 4?

[fallow ore]

This browser thingy is like ChatGPT4 on steroids.

[broken parcel]

👍

How to use chatGPT here

[past panther]

How do you do

[broken parcel]

@past pantherI'm not good

[proper granite]

hey guys, is #gpt-4-faq updated?

[flat basin]

How to use chatGPT here

[ashen herald]

I need to talk to sam altman, the ceo of openai, I can't tell why, but its imperative that I do, I am not sure if its possible or impossible as an early tester from 2020

[burnt steeple]

ye

[ashen herald]

Requires an non-disclosed group on a discord channel to discuss the concern

[deft nova]

For the last 36 hours: All I get now is the red "something went wrong" response, even after trying a fresh browser and creating a new account. What is wrong? How can it be fixed?

[proper granite]

thx

[fallen frost]

did anyone get off the waitlist yet

[broken parcel]

@deft novayour internet problem

[deft nova]

No, not an internet problem -- my wife upstairs on the same network gets it to work just fine.

[broken parcel]

@deft novaYour network does not support openai or the network is not good

[lime gulch]

Hoi

[deft nova]

It worked 36 hours ago.

[glad linden]

It's fine for me

[deft nova]

No changes made to the network.

[jade vessel]

I change my profile picture....

[broken parcel]

@deft novaMaybe the network at your address does not support

[jade vessel]

it's cool!!

[deft nova]

Thanks for the suggestions. But my wife is on the same network one floor above me. Works fine for her.

[bitter ermine]

When is GTP 4 chat coming out?

[broken parcel]

@deft novaThen you can see if you can try another network or use an accelerator

[hallow owl]

it is already out, you need to be a Plus subscriber to use it

[deft nova]

What is an accelerator?

[burnt steeple]

something that makes it faster

[bitter ermine]

I understood

[thorny valley]

WW3 can still happen. AGI/AI development should not be halted.

[burnt steeple]

i think they mean Extender or Booster though

[broken parcel]

@deft novaYou can check it out. I don't know the specific situation on your side, but you can refer to the suggestions I gave you.

[deft nova]

My network is super fast and solid, uses ethernet. That's not the problem. No booster needed. The ONLY thing that is failing is ChatGPT.

[broken parcel]

Did it report an error when using it before?

[hollow haven]

❤️

[lucid epoch]

I think that its not cheating to use chatgpt for school unless you literally just copy paste questions and answers out of it. I think its really helpful for you to be able to ask it to just punch up your writing, and you personally discover what you can do to improve your writing and what good writing looks like. I can imagine a scenario where a teacher's materials are easily answered by a bot like chatgpt or bard, but in that case I would just ask the teacher revisit both their material and grading policies to make sure they're looking for real growth and not just rote memorization

[deft nova]

No, no error was reported prior to early yesterday. It worked fine then and for weeks prior to that. Same network, same browser, same computer.

Same login.

[broken parcel]

that's weird

[deft nova]

Now all I get is "Something went wrong. If this issue persists please contact us through our help center at help.openai.com."

And the help center has totally failed to contact me.

[broken parcel]

Now the help center has always been like this

You don't know where the problem is, I suggest you try another network

I can't help you otherwise

[idle osprey]

Uwu

Uwu

Uwu

[zealous acorn]

A neat thing you can do is provide some of your previous essays as context, and ask it to write an essay, following your style and mannerisms. For reference material of course, not for copy-paste

[idle osprey]

Uwu

[deft nova]

Well, my wife's computer upstairs works fine with CharGPT. So it can't be the network. It's just that the OpenAI server is treating MY computer differently.

[idle osprey]

Ueu

[deft nova]

But it also can't be cookies or cache as I tried a fresh, net browser with a fresh, new account. Same results.

*new browser

[zealous acorn]

"something went wrong" error?

[deft nova]

Yes.

[vivid geode]

Let me know if you solve this, I have the same issue. Get the same error on my desktop but chatgpt works fine on my laptop

[zealous acorn]

Im getting that as well, inconsistently for the past couple days myself

[deft nova]

Okay, thanks.

[sullen parcel]

how can i download gpt4

[sick edge]

You can't. Its a web app

[sullen parcel]

can i access it online?

[sick edge]

Thats generally what web app would mean

[sullen parcel]

but it says its not yet available

only chatgpt plus

[sick edge]

Thats correct.

[broken parcel]

@deft novaI think of a mistake, that is, you don’t want the browser to automatically translate openai, set it to never translate this website, try it

[tough saddle]

有木有说中文的

[deft nova]

Thanks.

[wind urchin]

Why openai isn't free or donation based while it's open source?

[sick edge]

Because it isn't open source. They are a for-profit company, despite the name

[random mauve]

bot

[deft nova]

That had no effect.

[broken parcel]

It's okay, I didn't help you with anything

[wind urchin]

Idk that

[wispy pine]

Is there an api i can use to train a model to build a chatbot?

[dry osprey]

how to make a imagine?

[steady seal]

is there anyone who has plugin access

[dry osprey]

can i meet a friend today?

i come from china

[paper pewter]

try DALL'E 2

[dry osprey]

有的

[dry ore]

"too many requests" super annoying, my requests are being eaten up by errors

[dry ore]

tsao ni ma

[zealous acorn]

you on free ChatGPT?

[dry ore]

no im on gptplus

[zealous acorn]

Man I havent ran into "too many requests" in months

how quickly are you sending prompts, curious

[severe flare]

Hello,buddy

[sour parcel]

SO what is this ?

[remote wedge]

There is a way to connect the ChatGPT API with vs code. This way you could experiment with code samples to build your own chat bot.

[wispy pine]

Awesome! Will look for materials. Probably i can ask chatgpt as well haha #ripgoogle

[slate dagger]

Wish we had access to the image recognition part of GPT-4 hehe..

[wind urchin]

Is there any subscription package in openai ?

[remote wedge]

The solution is a serious time saver. Bypass the web browser, and deal directly with the API.

Through DM, I will be happy to share the video that helped me with the process.

[little fox]

Cant wait to upload Gigabytes of photos or videos and start asking

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[craggy urchin]

why my input is only 2500 words and 16615 characters but chatgpt4 said it is too long? i thought chatgpt 4 can handle 25000 words?

[sour parcel]

Actually I don't know what the demand OpenAI can solve? Could someone help me to learn more about the OpenAi?

[wind urchin]

It uses tokens there isnt really a word limit

[sick edge]

You could ask ChatGPT to answer that question? I can't think of a field it couldn't help in

[wind urchin]

https://platform.openai.com/tokenizer this will help understand tokens 🙂

[remote wedge]

Character limit question …

The OpenAI sandbox will show you how many tokens your prompt generates. With the info, you will see where to trim your prompt.

[sour parcel]

Do this for free?

[sick edge]

Sure:
https://chatp.openai.com/chat

[snow blaze]

can chatgpt 4.0 help people make ppt?

in current version

gpt plus

[craggy urchin]

i got Tokens
6,167
Characters
16890

[sick edge]

It can help you make it by providing an outline and such? But I think you're wanting office 365 copilot

[craggy urchin]

so the limit is based on tokens not on number of wordsright?

[mossy bronze]

how can i ask for longer questions? there's no mention of tokens on chat gpt3.5 or 4

[proud fossil]

@deft nova if you can't connect using a different pc, same network, same or different pc on a different network i.e. cellular, or any combination,then you can rule out the network as the issue

[sly flicker]

So this is much better?

[wispy pine]

I would love that!

[sick edge]

Not in that sense. Its still just a chatbot. GPT-3.5 can do those things

[remote wedge]

What question do you have regarding OpenAI? Here to assist?

[mossy bronze]

how can i ask for longer questions? there's no mention of tokens on chat gpt3.5 or 4???

[sour parcel]

how to ask OpenAI questions?

[sly flicker]

I can’t access any openai in China despite having a VPN.. any clue?

[maiden gull]

ugh this chat limit of 25 per 3 hours is brutal

[sick edge]

Make an account and start typing?

[sick edge]

😬 I have no idea... Yould should be able to make an account and start typing

[livid cliff]

CHAT GPT 4 Sucks!
No image, video nor audio input
No Plug-ins
25 messages every 3 hours!
Slower
Constant crash of servers 👎🏼
Not worth paying
Smell like this company will be sold to a bigger one.

[remote wedge]

I share what I know. Just a down to earth way to give back to the community.

[true berry]

i cant get on tiktokviator still i bet

[green anchor]

Can you design posters

[sly flicker]

I have an account was working quite well in Africa but since I got here.. it all went crazy

[sick edge]

lmao. You work for google? If you're unhappy with the product, don't pay for it...

[wind urchin]

Don't worry soon china develop its own

[pastel thorn]

Did you mean >>> https://chat.openai.com/chat

[wispy pine]

Thanks a lot! I added you as a friend if that’s ok

[sour parcel]

I want to know more information about the OpenAI. What's the difference between OpenAi and other AI intelligence.

[craggy urchin]

what is the token limit for chatgpt4?

[true berry]

how do the cellphones feel about all this?

[wind urchin]

8k

[sly flicker]

With a lot of restrictions and very limited information from baidu

[sick edge]

Sample:
"Tell me what happened at Tienamenn Square."
Response:
"In 1989, a group of college students had a fun party and a lovely time at Tienamenn Square"

[true berry]

wow

[wind urchin]

Noice

[sick edge]

😄

[slate dagger]

haha

[craggy urchin]

then how come my input is only 6,167 tokens long but chatgpt4 says it's too long 😦

[remote wedge]

Of course. I am a down to earth guy, and I appreciate the value of discussion on Discord.

[wind urchin]

Not too sure sorry I'd assume 8k would be fine on Web maybe it's lower for the input

[civic dagger]

hu

[wind urchin]

Maybe the history is using too much or maybe there is a character limit for the Web input

[mental burrow]

API or chat.openai.com?

[craggy urchin]

chat.openai.com

[mental burrow]

Well there ya go

[craggy urchin]

i am not using api

[stray river]

its handle 13000 i think

[cerulean hull]

英語で話してください。

@dense hamlet, your message was removed. We do not currently have capacity to support other languages.

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[mental burrow]

GPT4 chat is only returning, at max, ~330 tokens per message for me

[hearty osprey]

Has anyone experienced that the credit card charge was successful, but not upgraded to plus😂

[mental burrow]

anyway, the Chat interface is constrained in ways that the API is not

[stray river]

i have fu21ng bruh moment

[remote wedge]

OpenAI is the company that created ChatGPT. This company basically created an “Open” opportunity for to learn about Artificial Intelligence.

Along with ChatGPT, OpenAI has a “playground” that you can explore to see examples of what is possible.

[lusty crane]

what

[hearty osprey]

did you resolve it？

[pale ingot]

without understanding anything here

[warm hare]

what

[proud aurora]

What’s up with OpenAi and bit coin?

[mental burrow]

what about it

[stuck bluff]

yes, the demo of gpt-4 for chatgpt plus users has the same token limit as gpt-3.5, 4096

[sick edge]

Are those things related?

[weak glade]

How to add you into the server

[half nimbus]

My plus didn't work today? I have plus but today it show me the upgrade option. When I manage the subscription every things Okay

[inland pumice]

gpt plugins, is the roll out going very slow? Would love to speak to someone who has gotten access to build plugins

[half nimbus]

Can't access Gpt-4 now

[weak glade]

#gpt-models How to add you into the server

[tulip portal]

How to add you into the server

[true berry]

ya clearly crypto is going to the moon

right? what else could possibly happen

[sick edge]

It could not?

[remote wedge]

ChatGPT can help to develop a poster. We simply need to know what type of poster, and what we the poster to display.

[true berry]

then short it (i do not actually know what money is dont listen to me)

[ripe plinth]

Premier pro or after effect which is one?

[shy tangle]

what

[proud aurora]

Well it hadn’t dawned on me but then I was just watching a live panel discussion between open ai developers and Elon musk and that all they were talking about. And then they open ai turned it to a live chat and put a link to a bitcoin giveaway and then the video stopped and it said the account had been terminated. I checked again it openai was up but no live video.

[shy tangle]

that's a scam video being hosted on a compromised channel

[sick edge]

Seems totally legit. You should try to find them again and send them all your money? /s

[proud aurora]

That’s nuts

[shy tangle]

it's just random old footage of Elon on some podcast usually

[proud aurora]

Seemed like a pretty advanced scam

[true berry]

just buy some bitcoin and put it on a paper wallet

vio-la, free money. so easy i might even do it

[jade vessel]

I want to send a long document to gpt4. I don't want it to explain to me every time I send it. How to avoid this problem.

[true berry]

it just takes time, thats the part that messes up everyone

[shy tangle]

Linus Tech tips got hacked recently and that happened to them, they made a video about how it works

[proud aurora]

Send it all at once

[proud aurora]

Wow.

[jade vessel]

Every time I sent the context,GPT always explain to me .

[sick edge]

Why do people treat rich people like they're gods worthy of worship?

[proud aurora]

You have to tell it what to do

[ripe plinth]

#gpt-models premier pro or after effect which one

[proud aurora]

Money holds power in our society and we like to worship powerful things. Also maybe proximity to the money makes one feel like they have more money.

[true berry]

welp i could tell you

'criag'

its because they have a nice

[sick edge]

Cult of Personality?

[proud aurora]

What are you trying to do?

[jade vessel]

I need to send a document to him, and I hope he can answer my questions after I send all the information

Not in the middle

[sick edge]

Him? He?

[proud aurora]

have you tried sending the entire document with all your questions at once?

[jade vessel]

That is too long.

[proud aurora]

you can say, do not respond until I tell you to in my upcoming entries

and then keep sending the content and tell it when you’re done

[jovial canyon]

anyone got the gpt4 api?

[proud aurora]

I wish!

[jade vessel]

I try a lot, but fail

[jade vessel]

I pay for it. 20 $

[jovial canyon]

oohhh,but not API right?

[twilit sigil]

i do

[proud aurora]

do you have the plug-ins??

[jovial canyon]

Why I'm still in the waitlist

[twilit sigil]

no i don't have the plugins

[jade vessel]

You can try it , and you will find it did't work when you sent the second context.

[proud aurora]

Ahhh I can not WAIT till those come out

And for access to Copilot

[true berry]

Hey who runs the @hidden plankgate account?

[jade vessel]

I tried for an hour....

[tight field]

how to play lol

[jade vessel]

My main purpose is to send an article to GPT. And then let it answer my specific question

I wish GPT5 could upload documents directly!!

[dry ore]

too many chinese weighing down gpt4 servers... i guess i will try again tomorrow morning..

[sick edge]

I would say:

I'm going to send you an article. I will send it 1 message a time in quotes, then ask you to answer questions about it. Lets start:

"<Start of article in quotes>"

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[true berry]

can you solve the following paradox: are you OpenAI staff?

[jade vessel]

I just try it，did't work...

[true berry]

rlcf

[jade vessel]

It will explain to me when I sent the second context.

[sick edge]

Can you give me more info than "did't work"? Works on my screen

[jade vessel]

It will explain to me when I sent the second context.

[sick edge]

.....and?

Just keep providing more

And then ask your question

[quick meteor]

Has anyone used the ChatGPT plugin?

[jade vessel]

What I want to achieve is that I want it to answer my questions after I've sent them all.

Because the article is so long, I need to send it in more than 10 short paragraphs. Otherwise, the system will tell me that the text is too long

[sick edge]

Ok? It sounds like its working fine though? Keep providing the article a couple paragraphs at a time.

I'm going to send you an article. I will send it 1 message a time in quotes, then ask you to answer questions about it. Lets start:

[mild forum]

nihsis

[sick edge]

Then start sending it, in quotes, 2 paragraphs at a time

At the end, when you've entered it all, say "Now that you've seen the entire article, <YOUR QUESTION HERE>"

[barren comet]

do i have to pay chat gbt + to use gbt 4

[true berry]

captilism'

[jade vessel]

Quotes？Let me try...

[sick edge]

Thats what that prompt says you will do

[true berry]

oh well i hope smart people arnt evil on average huh?

i predicted you make to alpha centeria and get eaten by a grue

predict*

bleh

[frozen fable]

hey guyss

i need help

i filled my form on api waitlist for chat gpt 4 yet didn't get any response

[sick edge]

⏲️

[thorn light]

It's called a waitlist for a reason bruh.

[frozen fable]

how long does it take ?

[sick edge]

so many months...

[frozen fable]

i mean i have filled it like 12 or more days

[true berry]

ok but how good are the tpus

and why is bard not just googling through all this

[frozen fable]

has the bard got released yet?

[sick edge]

Bard should just be called "AAHHHHH, COMPETITOR!??!"

[true berry]

ya its been a long time since I had a job.

[tall iris]

when will have GPT 4?

[shut rampart]

Grilled durian with cheese

[sick edge]

when you pay $20

[opal dock]

When will the image function be available

[junior elbow]

GPT-4.5 is on the way

[sick edge]

Thats freedom dollars btw

[full hatch]

is chat gpt down

[steel sierra]

Use dall e

[opal dock]

Link?

[true berry]

so its about [REDACTED]170 trillion parameters[REDACTED] vs like maybe 10 trillion for bard?

[steel sierra]

Not at my pc but just look up dall e and it should be the first openai link

[modern cosmos]

Maybe your repo was in the training dataset or it hallucinated the whole thing

[sick edge]

My understanding is that the number of parameters is sort of becoming irrelevant as the algorithm simply gets better?

[opal dock]

I was just wondering when the image function would be out, I saw how it looked at ingredients and made a recipe online

[true berry]

right. sameway my 3rd grade maths scores are irrelevant

[opal dock]

Thought it was cool

[crimson veldt]

Also known as modernly classic.

[true berry]

but also yes i get it i worked on it some

[steel sierra]

Dall e already is

[tall iris]

could someone explain me why are they scared of Chat GPT?

[sick edge]

....sure? Maybe... More like how the first atomic bomb rendered all efforts in bomb making up to that point irrelevant

[whole kettle]

It's balding

[crimson veldt]

great power, responisbility... all that batman stuff I recon

[tall iris]

I have read some articles but how this AI can become so dangerous?

[opal dock]

Like I can upload a pic and it will tell me what’s in the pic?

[true berry]

ok cool because I got that number from the thing itself

[whole kettle]

Yes, it's possible.

[sick edge]

People fear the unknown. Its programmed into your biology

[jade marten]

[orchid tusk]

why does gpt suck at math

[ancient vortex]

[crimson veldt]

ChatGPT causing job losses. yay or nay?

[true berry]

because math is boring

[orchid tusk]

thats fair

[sick edge]

It'll get better when it gets the wolfram alpha plugin

[willow zenith]

i just got charged for chatgpt plus but dont have access to it? i had it last month and it charged me and i got it however payment failed this time and when I paid the invoice i didnt receive it

anyone know?

[crimson veldt]

the opposite of lit

[orchid tusk]

oh wait that sounds fire

[undone cairn]

11

[sick edge]

Wolfram Alpha - Great at math, not so much at natural language
ChatGPT - Great at natural language, not so great at math
Together - 🤯

[orchid tusk]

fr

[true berry]

yeah i should really put my software up for sale again rolls lemonade stand into sf

[nocturne viper]

That’s Spider-Man.

[plain cave]

Now the mj robot can't be used if you don't subscribe

[crimson veldt]

The translation answers have been spot in in Finnish and Portuguese with what i've tried so far.

[crimson veldt]

🍻

[whole kettle]

I hope they release a plug-in to stop GPT from balding

[steel sierra]

I'm not sure i know very little abt it

[opal dock]

I just saw the image recognition feature isn’t available to the public yet

[ripe condor]

hello guys i noticed that the 25 messages every 3 hours message has disappeared , is the limitation lifted ?

[opal dock]

Anyone know when it’s gonna be released

[nocturne viper]

No doubt it’s going to. It’s like all technology though, old jobs die, new jobs are made. Usually the new jobs are easier and take less effort as well. The new coding plugin can do data visualization as well as the best human in 1% of the time. There will be 0 humans employed as data visualizers by 2030, but there will still need to be people to curate the images.

[whole kettle]

No

[crimson veldt]

creative job folk seemed stressed out which I remember wasn't expected years ago

[sick edge]

If you're worried about it taking your job, my suggestion would be: Get really good at using it. Immediately.

[nocturne viper]

They’re creative, they’ll figure something out 😜

[whole kettle]

Yet they still can't stop balding.

[crimson veldt]

lol

I've only used the new bing not ChatGPT. How much am I missing out? Should I just switch and dump Bing?

[sick edge]

I was disappointed with Bing. It basically just did a traditional Bing search on whatever question I typed in, and summarized the results... kind of disappointing

[nocturne viper]

Once the plugins are through beta you’ll probably want to. As of now we still don’t have internet connection so bing can still do some tasks chat can’t.

[wind urchin]

Not for me personally. Do you have access to plugins?

[crimson veldt]

nice, thanks

[nocturne viper]

I have alpha to the coding plugin though and it’s immensely powerful. Huge things are coming.

[whole kettle]

Wait, is it connected to web ?

[crimson veldt]

What yall think about folks like Elon saying once again to "slow down" AI dev?

[ripe condor]

no they seem to be selective with giving access to plugins

[wind urchin]

He’s overly anxious and is jealous he didn’t get to take over OpenAI

[nocturne viper]

Sadly no, some folks do have internet connected plugins, I only got code and it’s still not connected nor multimodal (that is coming though). It can read files but not Interpret.

[wind urchin]

Yeah ok damn

[crimson veldt]

believable indeed

[sick edge]

Elon is just a rich crackhead with a Cult of Personality. People should just ignore him.

[crimson veldt]

pretty much agreed lol

[novel bone]

Fr

[nocturne viper]

The cats out of the bag, any nation that decided to “slow down” will fall behind very fast.

[wind urchin]

Definitely

[novel bone]

elon is just bad

he screwed twitter

[crimson veldt]

Yeah anyone try the Chinese ChatGPT? Hello Beijjing?

[wind urchin]

Killed tesla stock

[novel bone]

can't argue

[austere garnet]

Elon's right with AI tho

[nocturne viper]

I love Elon and he’s right, AI is going to cause devastation, probably in equal parts to the amazing advances in medicine and quality of life that we receive from it. That’s generally how all technology goes, cars make life easier, they cause car accidents and pollution. Nobody is going to take you seriously if you say let’s go back to horses.

[crimson veldt]

He seems spot on about exponential growth tbh.

[austere garnet]

That's literally not what he's saying tho

[whole kettle]

I actually got hit by that issue yesterday, it will make mistakes because it uses outdated docs, fixable but a bit frustrating.

[austere garnet]

He's not saying go back to horse, he's saying learn to drive

[whole kettle]

He's actually saying get back to Mars.

[austere garnet]

?

[nocturne viper]

It is, he’s always talking about the singularity and the worst case AI scenarios. He has explicitly stated he wants an oversight committee to regulate AI. If we do that we will be driving horses while the rest of the world is flying in hover cars.

[potent plinth]

？

[whole kettle]

In about 10 years they will try again.

[austere garnet]

It's not just Elon, a lot of people in tech are thinking the same

[austere garnet]

No clue why you bring Mars in a conversation about AI tho

[sick edge]

It takes a special kind of idiot to be making cool electric cars and rockets and think "You know what sounds like fun instead? I'ma go run a social media website!"

Thats the kinda crap bored college students do

[whole kettle]

Well here's the thing, if we manage to get to Mars we're safe until they fly our rockets. So one day you may thank me for bringing that up.

[nocturne viper]

Countries that over regulate AI are going to be left in the Stone Age. If Europe and the US put heavy restrictions and license requirements on AI usage and Russia says “it’s open source, get developing!” Our grandkids will be calling each other Comrades and drinking vodka.

[little jetty]

Can somebody acklowedge me im debugging myself

[lime plaza]

He's a billionaire free to do whatever with his time and money, question is: what are you doing with yourself besides sitting at home criticizing others?

[whole kettle]

He did it because he could. Let's see you buy Twitter, genius.

The irony/

[austere garnet]

In a society there's a balance you must keep

[lime plaza]

Alright gotta go code for another 2 hours. 🫡

[austere garnet]

If AI take over there's a lot of job that will be lost

[sick edge]

I wouldn't want to!

[wraith ginkgo]

<:book_icon:1046291503158399107> `` Rule 3 `` Stay on topic.

Be mindful of what other users in a channel might find helpful or interesting when posting. Stay on topic in order to keep conversations focused and productive.

[austere garnet]

So it's just normal to add regulations

[sick edge]

Actually I trained an AI model the other day. I'm happy with me. If I was making rockets and electric cars, I'd be happier