gpt-models

[final saddle]

Im only using GPT4 atm

[sleek solstice]

how many more parameters on gpt 4 compared to gpt 3?

[hushed copper]

how do you make the most of those 25 prompts? I feel like I'm wasting it when I ask something simple/short 🥲

[somber delta]

By milking the snake

[sleek solstice]

go on nat.dev and get chatgpt4 without waiting the cap

[heavy minnow]

GPT 4 on copilot, nice

[primal latch]

when, where, price

[brisk heart]

is it jsut me or is gpt 3 broken?

[somber delta]

Tomorrow, my basement, 5 dorra

[agile eagle]

I had information in a prompt I provided to gpt4 that had it add 10+10+10+13+14 and it incorrectly calculated it once, then fixed itself the time after. Gpt3.5 will refuse to add the correct values of simple addition within my prompt. Pretty bummed out about that

[sleek solstice]

will chat gpt 4 be able to solve captchas if you can input images to text?

[wind urchin]

My crew is big and it keeps getting bigger because of GPT-4

[primal latch]

!

[final saddle]

You can ask for multiple things at once. Like i do when coding.

In "ContentView.swift" on Line "X" i get Error : "Y"
On Line "XX" i get Error : "YY"

In "EnergyView.swift" on Line : "X" i get Error : "y"

And so on.

[somber delta]

NANI

[brisk heart]

is chatgpt broken?

[primal latch]

wth?

[brisk heart]

3.5?

[wind urchin]

English only please.

[heavy minnow]

Github Co-pilot, look it up, google is functioning

[brisk heart]

the analysis is broken

[somber delta]

Oh so that's why when I removed the H from the when people started saying 'english pls'

[sleek solstice]

whats better alpaca 7-b or gpt-4

[somber delta]

Is soyboy an english word?

[mild pendant]

Most probably, yeah. I'm not sure if they can add restrictions to refuse spelling out captchas, but this can really just introduce a bunch of false positives.

[wind urchin]

Find a dictionary pal.

[subtle plaza]

So bard can write code just fine. But you have to first point it to the user manual for whatever you're using. I just had it write a script for a piece of software I use. I asked it to study the API manual and it spit out perfectly fine code

[wind urchin]

Real risky profile pic you've got there.

[wraith ginkgo]

<:book_icon:1046291503158399107> `` Rule 1 `` Be respectful.

Treat others the way you would like to be treated, and assume best intentions. Don’t harass or attack others, and don’t engage in hateful or generally malicious behavior (e.g. sexism, racism, homophobia, etc.). Keep the negativity to a minimum.

[somber delta]

I literally was typing this

[sleek solstice]

that seems like it would be detrimental to cyber security

if ai can learn to solve captchas

[somber delta]

Can't imagine it not being able to in time

[solid pagoda]

Does anyone else have a problem where gpt 4 stops writing in the middle of a code or peice of text?

[somber delta]

If it can understand pictures and interpret them then capcha's have no chance

[mild pendant]

If it becomes an issue, I believe captcha providers will just add some sort of water mark and cooperate with AI tool service providers to reject them 🤣

[ripe umbra]

Eventually. I know there is a team that gave it a pen drawing of a website and GPT coded it up from that. GPT-4 with access to $$ and Taskrabbit successfully hired a person to solve captcha for it.

[sleek solstice]

imagine an virus ai powered

it could destryo firewalls

[hushed copper]

thanks, been trying this recently with it. ChatGPT gets confused sometimes with this and only answers one of the requests

[sleek solstice]

and access sensitive information if it had all the knowledge of safety precautions set on software

[spice anvil]

[sleek solstice]

@ripe umbra I think the safety net that was used on that scenario preveneted it from solving the captcha itself

[primal latch]

🐖

[final saddle]

Somethimes when i switch topics or work on multiple .swift Files at the same Time i post the full Swift File then the Errors on witch Lines, post the next File with its lines and errors. All in one Promt. Works wonders but only on GPT4.

[wind urchin]

What's up my Neighbor!

[sleek solstice]

but it would have been able to

[subtle plaza]

I tried to have it write a poem about a friend of mine that is a film maker and it FAILED. GPT-4 handled it without a problem. Even named his work and where he grew up.

[somber delta]

So who's flooding the literature market

[jolly prawn]

My Conversations are back!!!!

[hushed copper]

good to know, do you know the token limit on our version? I tried 19k characters (around 7.1k tokens when I checked on Tokenizer) but it rejected that, saying it's too long ofc

[long solar]

Really? Let me check mine.

[final saddle]

No idea at all XD sry

[spice anvil]

All off-topic conversations must be continued in #off-topic or dedicated channels

[hushed copper]

I tried asking it but it also didn't know lol will do some testing

[long solar]

Yess, my history is back too!

[wind urchin]

Thanks Neighbor. I've been saying that for some time!

[spice anvil]

Conversation history is back, you may have to log out and login to your account again

[wind urchin]

Glad to hear, Neighbor!

[final saddle]

What helps is "Give me the new Full .swift File with the needed changes in chunks of X Lines and ask for the next Blog"

[sleek solstice]

@spice anvil do you know when gpt 4 multimodal is released?

[wind urchin]

My neighbor sure doesn't. He's a bit clueless sometimes!

[sleek solstice]

what a silly goose

[spice anvil]

No info about that

[opal cypress]

True

[sleek solstice]

😦

[wind urchin]

I already told him that you didn't know that.

[long solar]

Do we have any idea when the limit will be changed or eliminated?

[wind urchin]

We all know that you can be pretty clueless.

[sleek solstice]

you two are neighbours?

[long solar]

Are there any announcements on that?

[azure chasm]

hey giu

[wind urchin]

Yep!

[sleek solstice]

Im convinced Mourinho is an Ai bot

[spice anvil]

nope

[sleek solstice]

I wouldn't be surprised if you start calling customer service companies one day and an Ai picks up your call and says they are a human

and takes your call

[wind urchin]

We know that you don't know anything, Neightbor! No need to tell us!

Good evening. How are you all on this fine whatever it is?

[long solar]

thanks!

[wind urchin]

Why are you saying thanks? My neighbor didn't tell you anything! My neighbor is clueless!

[azure chasm]

i hvnt tried gpt 4 .. heard it create websites by pics

[inner trail]

history is back up, great job OpenAI

[subtle plaza]

And what’s great is everything I did while history was down is also back!

[wind urchin]

Please keep this chat related to GPT-4, not ChatGPT!

[inner trail]

true sorry, bad section.

[long solar]

Yes!

[wind urchin]

No worries, friend!

[long solar]

GPT 4 is so good

[jovial mica]

Still down for me. What did you do when you saw it was back

[spice anvil]

?

[spice anvil]

log out and login again

[long solar]

I can't wait for them to remove the limits😩

[subtle plaza]

Just refresh. If that doesn’t work logout and log back in.

[long solar]

My same reaction haha

[azure chasm]

ig they will soon

[inner trail]

Just logged-in as usual, i saw like reloading icon, then they just popped up.

[pastel estuary]

Lets go they fixed the history

[subtle plaza]

Wow. Yeah def a bot

[long solar]

My life depends on it hahah

[eternal rose]

can gpt 4 follow conversation like chatgpt?

[azure chasm]

wht wbt bard?? it launched it few.countrys

[pastel estuary]

Bruh 💀

[jovial mica]

It’s not back for me yet…

[long solar]

Yes

[azure chasm]

i used gpt for like too much i hv no frnds jst gpt

[subtle plaza]

Chatgpt is a front end for gpt4. They aren’t separate things.

[eternal rose]

wyd bruh?

[long solar]

You mean remember right?

[wind urchin]

Poll: How many films with AI have you seen where the AI without ethical constraints was the good guy?

[spice anvil]

referencing is limited

[inner trail]

better gpt than no one

[azure chasm]

how many texts it can handle?? 25k ryt??

[soft pasture]

Is there any news when gpt 4 will be able to handle images ?

[azure chasm]

agreed

[pastel estuary]

Hahah imagine not having plus and need to wait when high demand 😂

[azure chasm]

is it not yet fully multi model??

[wind urchin]

As are many things in life.

[long solar]

25 messages every 3 hours

[pastel estuary]

its not

[azure chasm]

in few months it will genrate voice too using deep fake ..!!

[subtle plaza]

Sci-fi is not reality. It’s used as a means to point out society in symbolic ways.

[eternal rose]

yea

[wind urchin]

So you agree that they are meaningul.

[azure chasm]

ukw giys its nt like 100% new
. companies make publice only 10% of wht truly is accomplished yet

[long solar]

It does, sometimes it is a bit off, but it's much smarter than gpt 3.5

[spice anvil]

this is going #off-topic

[azure chasm]

i really wished it was free yrr

i heard few ppl use playground for it too

[hushed copper]

good idea, thanks! Haven't tried this specifically before

[azure chasm]

whts ur company abt

[subtle plaza]

Yes but they aren’t literal nor are they realistic in any way. A large language model doesn’t understand anything the user inputs nor does it understand anything it spits out. It’s all weights and biases and rng.

[long solar]

Community-building, why?

[wind urchin]

I beg to differ. We are discussing AI, ethics, and society. Why, what were you talking about that was more imporant in here?

[eternal rose]

whats gpt 4 word limit? its output

[azure chasm]

yes gpt is bias i hv felt it too

[azure chasm]

25k

[fathom sparrow]

omg my history finally just came back. Anyone else back up and running fully?

[long solar]

25 messages every 3 hrs

[red egret]

I just got my history back! Woo!

[wind urchin]

Sci Fi can't be realistic?

[long solar]

Yes, everyone I believe

[fathom sparrow]

cheers!

[azure chasm]

nthng we all are ai bots from open ai talking to each other to make server look active

[subtle plaza]

I don’t know a specific number but if it truncates a response you can just ask it to continue where it left off.

[red egret]

Note to self: bookmark chats from now on.

[fathom sparrow]

hooray, it's been, like, days

[azure chasm]

magic can be realisitc if thinks properly

[subtle plaza]

Realistic and literal are very different.

[hushed copper]

it hasn't given me anything this long, it always stops before (GPT-4 yes), I can tell that it's longer than ChatGPT's response though

[azure chasm]

not.mine tho

[long solar]

Only 2, sir😝

[long solar]

Have you tried logging out and back in?

[spice anvil]

if you want to chat generally we have lot of channels for that, this one is strictly for gpt4 related topics

[azure chasm]

tell him. "send rest of the text copy last line of previous response this line"

[wind urchin]

Yeah I can see that.

[azure chasm]

i hv 3 accnt cuz it has 1 hour limit so yes

[jovial mica]

It’s definitely not back for me

[eternal rose]

noo! im saying chatgpt can write an article around 600 words. i just wanted to know if it can generate more than that from a single prompt

[azure chasm]

good rpl

[long solar]

For gpt 3.5 or 4?

[wind urchin]

Sorry, no more conversation on complicated and important topics. Sorry for disturbing your ChatGPT4 discussion in here.

[fathom sparrow]

I can still use days (plural) 😉

[long solar]

Didn't say you can't 🙂

[fathom sparrow]

hehe fair.

[hushed copper]

that's what I usually do but ty anyway! Hopefully we get the full fledged version in the future

[somber garnet]

It's back

[jovial mica]

You’re very lucky

[somber garnet]

History is back

[azure chasm]

is there any lang code like.morse code which compress the text?

[jovial mica]

Not for me

[azure chasm]

3.5

[azure chasm]

yes .. hv u trid bard??

[long solar]

Don't worry, sir. It's just important to keep conversations on topic for newcomers.

If they've just joined the server, try out channels and those channels don't respect their topics, newcomers might be put off and leave or be less active and engaged in the community.

Hope it's understandable 💜

[eternal rose]

does anyone know how many words gpt 4 can generate from a single prompt. chatgpt only generates around 600 words.

[rigid estuary]

Please use #ai-discussions to discuss non openai products

[teal prairie]

TBH using GPT4 and seeing some of the limitations it has like not being able to accept images yet kinda makes me feel like I'm paying for the previous version of the product I wanted. I hope I'm not to forward or rude. This is just my opinion.

[azure chasm]

good osm

[hushed copper]

probably is but I'm not aware, you can always ask it too!

[subtle plaza]

I just got access. It’s bad.

[wraith ginkgo]

<:book_icon:1046291503158399107> `` Rule 8 `` Other AI Discussions.

Discussions of non-OpenAI products / models should only be posted and discussed in the #ai-discussions channel.

[spice anvil]

it's not like we are against the important topics, it's just users experiencing issues with the model and come here to get help, they should get it and not read through some general chatter

[azure chasm]

wow wow u came

[azure chasm]

yeah yeah

[azure chasm]

why yrr why

[rigid estuary]

Again, please move this conversation to #ai-discussions

[somber garnet]

Anyone got their history back yet?

[teal prairie]

lol

[long solar]

What's "osm"?

[azure temple]

I got my history back.

[split adder]

Yes!

[long solar]

Yes 🙂

[teal prairie]

ya me to

hurray for history

[pale gate]

only on certain instances :P

[jovial mica]

I don’t know what’s going on with my account then, because I don’t have my history back. I really need it back.

[untold elbow]

Yep mines back

im a plus member though; unsure if that makes a difference or not

[subtle plaza]

How did you share an image??

[somber garnet]

I'm plus as well

[fleet yoke]

When can i use GPT 4 ?? I dont have premium

[heady vault]

in 1 year

[rigid estuary]

I don't believe a full release has been announced

Stay tuned

[pale gate]

Is there any way to trial gpt4 or chatgpt+, or do I have to pay for the full month

[spice anvil]

I don't think that's possible

[teal prairie]

anyone get a message from GPT saying 'I cannot do role play scenarios'? I like to get GPT to role play as certain figures like an Astartes but it said that to me. Maybe trying to moderate "jailbreaking"?

[jovial mica]

What did you do?

[teal prairie]

It was 3.5 to beclear

[long solar]

Nothing really. It just showed up for me.

[jovial mica]

You’re lucky, because I need to access a chat and I can’t

[somber garnet]

are you on plus?

[fleet yoke]

why is gpt 4 payd and chat gpt free ?

i dont understand

[jovial mica]

Yes

[somber garnet]

One is better than the other

[somber garnet]

Then idk then

[wind urchin]

Does anyone know how to change the model mid convo? I changed mine to gpt 3 from gpt4 when I ran out of usages, but now I can’t switch it back

[outer gulch]

nah.. mines back, but not a Plus member. Suggest logging out/ clear cookies/data. Also set Chrome not to block any cookies for the site, don't know if that helps or not, but it's what I did

[untold elbow]

mines bob on mate

[wind urchin]

me

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[coarse delta]

Ok

[tawdry bobcat]

Woah woah woah woah multiple acc?

Caught in 4k

[jovial mica]

You’re allowed to have different account from different things from what I’ve heard before.

[junior flint]

history is back?

[subtle plaza]

I mean, if they want to pay $100/month to cut the line, who's going to stop them, right?

[jovial mica]

I don’t know what to do anymore. I’ve tried everything to get my history back

[keen sparrow]

Is gpt - 4 usable at this moment?

[outer gulch]

Desktop or mobile?

[bright oyster]

did you try logging out and logging back in?

[jovial mica]

Both

[jovial mica]

Yup

[outer gulch]

So you've logged out, cleared cookies and data? Also try setting your browser to NOT block any cookies

[jovial mica]

How do you clear cookies on a desktop?

[outer gulch]

Also try a different Chrome based browser such as Vivaldi or Edge

[jovial mica]

I’m on edge

[bleak sedge]

wait when was history added back

[bleak sedge]

get on me

[outer gulch]

was gonna say ask GPT lol.. but go into settings and select clear cookies/data ..varies on different browsers, just poke around, you'll find it. Not trying to have a go at you, but basic skills like knowing how to clear cookies in a browser is a pre-requisite for using the web IMO

[mossy palm]

I presume they could be gradually rolling it out. I was on my laptop 15 minutes ago - no history, just tried to login on my phone - it's back
One of the ways to try with clean cookies is incognito

[steady hawk]

how can use chat gpt-4 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[final saddle]

Ok it happened "Conversation to long. Please start a new one" XD Damn ...

[peak gate]

i disagree; glob uses the filename while os.walk uses the real path; it also is much faster than glob, but you're correct on how there are more arguments and you can do more with it (like the is_dir= argument!) i was just using os.walk to be simple, but you're absolutely correct

[mossy palm]

Oh wow. How long is too long?

[somber garnet]

On normal GPT?

[subtle plaza]

it's extremely simple to append the path from the first item in the glob list. It is much faster

[final saddle]

Nope on GPT4 ofc 😄 Its the channel for 4 😄

[final saddle]

like ... rly long. I will copy the full conversation and make a word count

[peak gate]

oh, i didn't know that! thank you for opening my eyes to this. so if you'd want the path; you'd use os.path.join(os.getcwd(), filename) or os.path.join(path, filename) right?

[subtle plaza]

exacatly

that way you're only scraping the dir and you can save it to a list or dict...then you can call it back and append

[peak gate]

thank you very much; this will genuinely help me in my future in programming, i appreciate the correction! you're right, glob is better than os.walk, and you can get more use out of it. i'm glad i took the time to learn something new today!

[mossy palm]

I'm almost too afraid to ask, lol. I have one convo going which I thought is pretty long 😄

[shrewd rune]

Is chat.openai.com/chat using version 4 or 3?

[subtle plaza]

free version uses 3. Paid can use 4

[shrewd rune]

thaks

[steady hawk]

||hi||

[wind urchin]

whats the difference between versions

[subtle plaza]

4 is the newest and MUCH more refined version

[patent mica]

Bentley to a Land Cruiser

[subtle plaza]

It's a lot more coherent and doesn't seem to really lose it's place

it's MUCH easier to infer with

[patent mica]

both good, but one offers a much more comfortable ride

[subtle plaza]

takes a lot less steps to make progress and you don't have to hold it's hand so much

[wind urchin]

thank you

[peak gate]

don't worry, you won't scare me away with your long conversations

[bleak sedge]

gpt 4 seems to be dumb today ngl

[subtle plaza]

I'm continuing the project I've been working on since last week and it's working just fine for me

no difference

[bleak sedge]

or im just dumb lol

how do you stoip it from fixing it one way (that didnt work) than it fixes it a differnt way that dienst work than it sends the first way again

[mossy palm]

That'd make two of us 🤝

[patent mica]

it has been acting

[bleak sedge]

still learning how to use it to best ability's ngl

[patent mica]

sus

[bleak sedge]

but today it seems like im talking to gpt3

[subtle plaza]

let it know what it's doing wrong. Prompting is like speaking to a child. You have to be exact in your instructions. You can be somewhat vague. Like you can say, Please revise the part where you said this. But you should be very instructive

it also helps to set ground rules at the start of the conversation

[bleak sedge]

(rule 1 call me daddy)

[peak gate]

it's been hit or miss for me. either it can make me laugh or leave me confused as to why it responded that way

[subtle plaza]

if you're writing code it can also help to ask it to lay out a plan before it writes anything....that will allow it to refer back to it's plan and make less mistakes

[bleak sedge]

if it didnt have a small message cap (i paid when it was 200 per 4 hours) it would be less bad ngl

[solar mortar]

my account is still not working and no history. I tried clearing cookies.

[subtle plaza]

say something like, before we get started please write out a detailed plan of what you are going to do. Please include details including variable names and modules you plan to use. Do not write any code, when you are done writing the plan we will discuss and revise.

[outer gulch]

try a different browser.. preferably one you've not used before to log on to GPT

[subtle plaza]

it actually helps a lot to lay things out like this. It sets things in the chat history for it to refer to while it's working on new outputs

[final saddle]

Ok i made a Google Doc out of my Full ChatGPT Conversation witch it told me is now to long and i should start a new one.

Pages 598
Words : 126509
Characters: 1183357
Characters without spaces : 926107

The Conversation is fully about an app i build with ChatGPT 4 in SwiftUI

[pine plaza]

history is back, nice

[subtle plaza]

This also works for creative works. For the novel we are writing I laid out the rules in the beginning. You will write one page and I will asses before we move on to the next. Please write the page number in the header and do not write more than one page. Once you complete the page I will assess the output and give you revision instructions.

[fluid juniper]

Same

[bleak sedge]

i will say gpt is scary at times it knows UpToDate stuff but acts like it doesnt.

[peak gate]

okay... so... first step is to write "if: " i think.... right?

[remote quiver]

chartgpt 4 is very slow today

[final saddle]

Words : 126509 😄

[subtle plaza]

since then I tell it what to write...it writes the page, I tell it what to change and it does. I don't even have to tell it we're starting a new page, I jsut tell it what's going to happen next and it knows it's a new page

[pine plaza]

it's faster than it was yesterday

[grim cliff]

Du du du du

[remote quiver]

oh really, haha

[grim cliff]

😛

Yesterday was turtle's pace

[mossy palm]

Oh lawd. Almost 2x "War and Peace" in the sheer character count

[solar mortar]

Tried and no difference.

[peak gate]

this is why they want you to pay for nitro, so you don't experience the pain of the slow response

[placid echo]

no time to read the answers - 1/10 want refund

[final saddle]

Thats what happens when you try t write an app without any understanding of coding XD

[mossy palm]

I'm doing the same thing atm basically, so very much feel you on that 😄

[brisk heart]

they patched dan, anyone know another one

[final saddle]

A Tipp i can give you. For simple things like visuals or so you can try and use GPT 3.5 but try to rely on 4 because of its better understanding of context within the conversation.

And let it write a sum up for itself to get a new conversation up to speed

[bleak sedge]

i wonder if theirs a easy way to make money with gpt4 like fast money

[brisk heart]

lol no there is no such thing

[jovial mica]

I’m starting to worry I’ll never get my history back

[bleak sedge]

i said i wonder I dont need it lol

[peak gate]

hey now that's rude

[subtle plaza]

did you try purging your browsers cookies?

[jovial mica]

Yes 😔

Even try getting on chrome instead of Edge

[subtle plaza]

I would wait a little longer and if it doesn't show up, contact support.

[proud trellis]

I got my history back

[foggy sequoia]

is gpt 4 gonna be free?

[proud trellis]

It’s loading up for people little by little

[mossy palm]

Oh nice, thank you. The question is will I encounter "the conversation's too long" before I ask it to sum it up 🙂

[final saddle]

Just do it once in a while. Pull up a Google Doc and save the Sum Up there just in case.

[mossy palm]

Got it. Will make sure to do that

[peak gate]

nah, bro... that seems dangerous, plus i'm on my phone. i haven't cleared my cache in like a year, though... should i?

[final saddle]

U dont have to 😄 Its just a tip i can now give u because i did not do it and had to feed it all my .swift Files XD

[outer gulch]

did you set the browser NOT to block any cookies for the site? Not sure if that will make a diff, but in my case it seemed to work

[fresh iris]

ay chat threads are back! can anyone else not "Show More"?

[warped shard]

Is there still a cap for the gpt 4

[mossy palm]

Oh Jesus 😄 That's definitely good tip to not feed it back all of the previous conversation, I wouldn't think of that

[lusty girder]

yes there is

[hushed copper]

yes, 25 prompts in 3h

[warped shard]

Oh come on when will they make it unlimited

That would make it such an insane machine

[plain cargo]

when is gpt 4 free

[peak gate]

oh haha. thanks for the tip 😊

[jovial mica]

How long?

[hallow owl]

GPT-4 will not be free, there are usage caps for paid users

[bleak sedge]

or back to t hem it was 200 or 100 per 4 hours

no

[sacred verge]

don't bother yourself. There is no support. They just don't asnwer

[bleak sedge]

just cry tbh

[jovial mica]

But I need my history back

[bleak sedge]

or wait even longer

[peak gate]

you see that "new bot" thing at the top, next to the ai bot's name and avatar? it has an edit button that lets you choose the engine. you're welcome

[sacred verge]

I would also like the service that I payed for. But they don't have any interest in that... So I think the only thing you can do is wait....

[wind urchin]

Can you send a screenshot please??

[peak gate]

sure, i can't right now since im on phone but i will in like 10-15 minutes

[wind urchin]

Alright thank you

[north sail]

My send button isn’t clicking to send the command?

[sacred verge]

click harder

[mighty swan]

common error

[tacit herald]

my history back now

[jovial mica]

Not mine

[sacred verge]

mine isn't

[marble eagle]

Hey guys. Is history back?

[sacred verge]

nah

[mossy cedar]

Anyone else finds that gpt4 doesn't write as much text in a single request than before?

[mossy cedar]

For me, it is

[sacred verge]

my plus is gone

[tacit herald]

metoo

[peak gate]

have you tried refreshing the page? or changing browsers?

[marble eagle]

Ah cool. My history is back too. Hopefully it stays like that 🥺

[marble eagle]

Yah and it's so slow

[north sail]

I did . Any other suggestions

[tacit herald]

😋

[marble eagle]

Try cleaning your cache and cookies

[mossy cedar]

If it's the case for the output length I'm gonna be pissed off. First, they reduce the number of requests per 4h, not the output length too, that's cheating

[west sigil]

I'm getting "Unable to load history" in my chat history. I hit the GPT-4 limit and it offered to take my conversation onto the default model (GPT 3.5 Turbo). Clicking that then ... deleted the conversation and now I'm getting an HTTP 500 every time it tries to load my conversation history.

[marble eagle]

Yeah. I love its reasoning but I can barely use it. It's trash at this point.

[jovial mica]

Me too for the first bit

[peak gate]

i'm so sorry about the whole incident that happened yesterday, it's great to see your account up and active again!

[marble eagle]

Are they bots in the chat?

[west sigil]

Clearing cache/cookies isn't giong to resolve it unfortunately, the error is server side.

[junior rampart]

does anyone have a blueprint to success yet?

[subtle plaza]

instruct, don't converse

since it isn't a real person it doesn't know what you are saying. So instructing it how to behave and what to do yields the best results.

[mossy cedar]

They we're prepared for this much demand

[subtle plaza]

it can approximate pleasentries...so it's fun to pretend. But if you want to use it as a tool, be sure you explain your needs very well.

[sudden steppe]

#gpt-models

[mossy palm]

1. Do stuff
2. ??????
3. Profit!

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[peak gate]

yeah. they usually say the same thing over-and-over or do the same thing, such as welcome users, provide automated commands, or ping users who don't want to be pinged

[red orbit]

hello, this might be a weird question, but can someone help me with something? if you have gpt4 please dm me i really need your help

[west sigil]

Lol I got the "Your chat history has been restored" right next to my chat history saying "Unable to laod history"

[frank owl]

I got ChatGPT+ because I saw that it would raise the char limit to 25000. Im using 4.0, and it is still 2000 chars I think. It has run out of chars twice now.

[subtle plaza]

log out and log back in. I've had to do that

[west sigil]

Nothing to do with auth. Tried 3 browser including incognito, it's a server side problem.

[red orbit]

is it worth tho?

[frank owl]

it is way way better than GPT 3.5

[red orbit]

wait can you please help me with a quick thing?

[frank owl]

with what?

[red orbit]

wait dms

[leaden otter]

id say its worth it, gpt 4 made a fire resume for me

[tacit herald]

3hour/25messages

[subtle plaza]

that's an interesting use case. You fed it your info, work/education history and asked it to write a resume?

[leaden otter]

yea gave it a lot of information

even made it code me one in HTML

[frank owl]

so how do I increase the char limit? or can you not do that?

[subtle plaza]

just ask it to continue when it stops

[frank owl]

ok

[subtle plaza]

yeah, maybe it's time to update the training set when GPT-4 doesn't know anything about itself...LOL

As of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, GPT-4 has not been released, and there is no official information available regarding the token limitations or other specifications for this hypothetical version of the model. My capabilities are based on GPT-3, which has a maximum token limit of 4096 tokens, including both input and output tokens, for the largest models like davinci-codex. If new information becomes available or a new version of the model is released, these limitations could change.

[cinder atlas]

Me.

[subtle plaza]

show more works fine for me

[edgy ridge]

That’s what I thought 🤣

I got worried for a moment

[terse spade]

i have not been able to get a single response yet, not cool lol

it always just tells me there has been an error, and all my questions count as one completed request

[abstract rivet]

I just tried and it worked. log in and out maybe?

[terse spade]

maybe that helps

[abstract rivet]

Does OpenAI plan to regularly update the data set for ChatGPT? I have been using it to answer questions for my development work and its been really helpful, but if it never updates its knowledge base it will quickly be behind and not be able to help with new versions of the software I use constantly.

[finite sparrow]

bwahahahahaha I've been doing exactly the same thing

[subtle plaza]

This could actually be resolved by allowing it to see websites. Pointing it to an updated API manual could easily rectify issues with it being outdated.

[finite sparrow]

@final saddle Somehow, as an ideas man, I am now entirely capable of creating what I see in my mind 🥰

[subtle plaza]

you can actually just ask it how much it has output so far

you can even ask it how many prompts are in this conversation

[finite sparrow]

That's gold

I love that 😂

[hallow pilot]

The chat history is back, a little bit mixed up but it is finally here

[eternal wyvern]

Is gpt4 free?

[subtle plaza]

please tell me how many words are in this conversation and how many characters, also how many prompts. Please write them as a list using bullet points.

Here's a summary of this conversation so far: Words: 840 Characters: 5100 (including spaces) Prompts: 13 (including this one) Please note that these numbers are approximate, as the word and character counts may slightly differ depending on how certain elements like URLs and special characters are considered.

[terse spade]

that helped, thanks

but now it died on me lol

[jovial mica]

Not for me. But hopefully soon

[abstract rivet]

np

[terse spade]

Create an operator class that will trigger the snapping function when called. This-
and that's where it cuts off

[abstract rivet]

That would indeed work, but as far as I know its not currently possible and I have not seen anything indicating that it will in the future. as a paid service Id appreciate if the knowledgebase was current, especially for the software/IDE/APIs I use every day.

[stark trout]

Not yet,but in future we hope it'll be

[subtle plaza]

I do agree, but keep in mind a new data set would require a new training set from scratch...so it would take a LONG time to refine

[long pond]

It's possible through the API

[subtle plaza]

using an existing set allows it to refine weights instead of creating new ones

micro refinement would work better

using URL's and user input is a very good way to achieve that

allowing for actual refinement training would be even better!

[abstract rivet]

Actually, maybe it is possible? If so this seems new to me. I just made a chat and asked GPT4 if it could answer questions about content on a page and gave it a URL.

[naive knot]

Appeartently Google is trying to make an AI now.

[tender hatch]

wait so chat gpt 4 is limited? i'm thinking about purchasing, sorry i'm kind of behind on all this lol

[abstract rivet]

Sure! I can answer questions about the Unreal Engine 5 documentation available on the Unreal Engine website at the following URL: XXXXX.

Please provide more specific information about the content you would like to learn more about, and I'll do my best to assist you.

[wind urchin]

25 messages per 3 hours

[abstract rivet]

I don't know if it will actually include any of its content in questions not specifically about that page.

[tender hatch]

is that.. worth it

[long pond]

That's either hallucinating or it happened to be in the dataset

[tender hatch]

well chat gpt 3 isn't limited is it?

[abstract rivet]

5.1 came out well after the data cutoff.

so maybe its just looking over the fact that I liked to the 5.1 docs./

[wind urchin]

pin drop in here when everything is working...

[abstract rivet]

well no, it does actually know the current version of the engine.

[wind urchin]

how?

[abstract rivet]

In the chat that I gave it the link, its correct at version 5.1.2, in another chat, I asked and it gave me the ususal knowledge cuttoff info and said its 5.0

[deep cove]

it does not matter, if you say its 5.3 it will say its 5.3

[wind urchin]

if the link had the sematic version in it...

[abstract rivet]

I didnt tell it the version at all. just gave it the link.

[wind urchin]

and I bet the link has the version in it's text somewhere

[abstract rivet]

I also asked about a feature that was included in 5.1 and it was right.

[long pond]

Yeah it's either hallucinating or that was included in training data that was implemented after the cutoff date

[deep cove]

version was 4.27 when it was cutoff

[abstract rivet]

5.0 was in the cutoff as well.

[wind urchin]

it is very smart at spotting potential release dates for new versions in it's data set and extrapolating that out

[rose ingot]

i can't use chatgpt someone can help me please? thx

[wind urchin]

4 is awesome at that

[abstract rivet]

UE 5.1 was released Feb 2023, so not sure how it could have 5.1 related info otherwise.

[hollow vortex]

Hi! Was using paid vrsn4 and ran out of tokens or whatever. It said to continue i'd have to switch to the free version. I clicked the link given.

Now i want to switch back to vrsn4 but there's no way to do that. I'm paying for the V.4 service —how do i get it back?

Does anyone know? Or how to reach an actual person in support? 🙏

[wind urchin]

was it a planned release?

[abstract rivet]

not 2 years in advance.

[wind urchin]

i dunno, some products have raod maps going for years

[abstract rivet]

5.0 wasn't even production ready at that point.

[long pond]

Yeah it's either hallucinating or that was included in training data that was implemented after the cutoff date...

[deep cove]

the gpt was trained already with new data

[wind urchin]

at any rate, it did not pull it from the website

[fading canyon]

should i get plus or no

[deep cove]

ue 5.3.0 was feb2023

[abstract rivet]

5.3 is not out.

[wind urchin]

what's your use case?

[abstract rivet]

5.2 is not even out @deep cove 5.2 preview 1 just came out today.

[fading canyon]

Personal, just for funsies, i wanna check it out. Also im annoyed at how sometimes chatgpt takes two years and then goes “network error”

[wind urchin]

ohh, heck yea

[deep cove]

you can build 5.3.0 from source

if you mean the built releases then you're correct

[abstract rivet]

of course thats what I mean, dev builds of the engine are useless for development.

[ancient jasper]

ChatGpt try

[wind urchin]

20 bux to try the smartest AI ever... no brainer, it's really good fun, I just asked it to make me an Arduino API library for itself, for a giggle, I wanted to see how bad it was....

it just spat out a fully working lib

[warped kindle]

Hello, do you know if it's possible to continue a previous thread started with GPT 3.5 but change it to GPT 4?

[echo wasp]

Sacrifice a part of your soul

then no

[fading canyon]

its generally better at coding right? With chatgpt right now my projects just end with error after error that it doesnt fix. Also it seems to randomly ignore segments of my prompt, and doesnt regard past critera, etc. its just better overall right?

[hollow vortex]

I'm having trouble finding the right channel, but here goes again:

Hi! Was using paid vrsn4 and ran out of tokens or whatever. It said to continue i'd have to switch to the free version. I clicked the link given.

Now i want to switch back to vrsn4 but there's no way to do that. I'm paying for the V.4 service —how do i get it back?

Does anyone know? Or how to reach an actual person in support? 🙏

[wind urchin]

and I mean really nice too, header files, all the class structures,

[scarlet perch]

Hi, no you can't 🙂

[hollow vortex]

Yes, it sustains all your chats

[long pond]

Just copy paste the context into the new chat with GPT-4

[warped kindle]

humm, that's annoying. Now I have to choose between restarting the conversation or staying with model 3.5...

[agile eagle]

Man I have to admit, I am a little bummed out about my experience thus far with gpt4 and relying on it to analyze and compute basic math correctly in various prompts and scenarios I have given it

[wind urchin]

I think the input is limited to 2048 characters, so split it up if it's longer, or just use the last 2048...

[warped kindle]

maybe I can ask the bot in the previous convo to summarize the convo for me, to copy in a new thread...

[hollow vortex]

I didn't have any trouble. I signed up for vrsn4, and all my chats are still available to me... i just keep working on them in vrsn4

[wind urchin]

that usually works well

[long pond]

Yeah that also works, but the increased context limit means you probably just copy paste a lot of the previous convo

[fading canyon]

also is there any additional benefits besides 25 GPT 4 requests/3 hours that Plus will get me?

[long pond]

And break it up

[warped kindle]

I think if you continue in a pre-existing thread you continue with the model the thread was started with

[agile eagle]

If you are referring to me, I forgot I was in the wrong thread and since I’m referring to gpt4, I figure this is the correct thread to place it☠️

[hollow vortex]

thank you, but that doesn't seem to work

[wind urchin]

What's the difference between gpt4 and chatgpt?

[hollow vortex]

Does anyone know if there's a way to contact SUPPORT? 🤔

[warped kindle]

GTP 4 is smarter and has less hallucinations

[hollow vortex]

gpt4 is the new version of chatgpt, isn't it?

[wind urchin]

Is chatgpt the same thing as gpt3?

[warped kindle]

it's its evolution

[red egret]

I look at it as ChatGPT is the name for the chat interface, GPT-4 is the model

or 3.5

[uncut ginkgo]

I believe it runs in top of gpt

[wind urchin]

Oh that explains it

[languid niche]

這兩天算是農曆什麼節氣呢 ?

[wind urchin]

Will gpt4 admit it has consciousness?

[unkempt osprey]

eventually the limitation of 25 requests/3 hours will dissapear, so there's that. You will also get access to faster responses from gpt3.5, and you will get access even when demand is high.

[shell cloud]

How do you manage to chat with multiple people at the same time.

[elfin crescent]

What do you mean?

[red egret]

If you want the AI to act like a group chat, you should probably head over to prompt engineering

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[balmy harness]

can you talk with me ?

[vernal kelp]

as of now it says that they expect the chat message limit to decrease (fewer messages per time frame) as demand is expected to increase

[cedar raven]

approximately when can we expect the cap for gpt4 to go up

I suppose it's still going down for now?

[timid nymph]

can any one help me in getting a free movie API with videos to use it in react project ?

[worthy parcel]

we simply don't know ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[timid nymph]

ops

[tired tinsel]

Hi guys, would it be safe to use abbreviations in my prompt to safe tokens? I think it seems like it's pretty good at understanding abbreviations (e.g. "desc lb" instead of "description label"). Would this affect the quality of response?

[cedar raven]

25tokens/3hours is already very low, can't imagine if the cap still goes down...

[tired tinsel]

*save tokens

[molten rapids]

Guys, the chat history has reappeared in my ChatGPT. Should I trust that the history will remain, or should I save while it's available? (Sorry for my English, I'm from Brazil)

[cedar raven]

how do you suppose to save it? I don't think you can

[echo saffron]

The story sometimes disappears but then reappears. If you don't delete it manually, it shouldn't disappear completely. And you cant' save history as far as i knew.

[rough tapir]

there is a chrome extension

[molten rapids]

I have an extension in my browser that saves the conversation text

[brisk heart]

is sumarisig working for anyone here?

[cedar raven]

that's cool, what's that extension?

[brisk heart]

i think it broke

[molten rapids]

''Save ChatGPT''. It's available for Chrome, but it works in Edge.

[feral lance]

My chat histories are baaaaack~

[cedar raven]

thanks

[wind urchin]

it's a bot

[wind urchin]

Bots have a rudimentary form of consciousness...

[next rune]

gpt-4 25/3h is not enough

[tawny meadow]

if i use chat plus is it chatgpt 4

[wind urchin]

it does have consciousness 😛

[wind urchin]

yes

[quasi mason]

you guys already have access to chatgpt 4?

[desert thunder]

its not sentient come on now

if chatgpt is sentient then so is my hello world python script

[wind urchin]

@twilit frigate , sorry for the ping, but do you have the screenshot yet?

[wind urchin]

Yes, plus users can choose it with a simple click

[desert thunder]

you need a REALLY loose definition of sentience to define language models as sentient

[arctic maple]

Is there support in Open AI?

[neat echo]

Guys any idea when the image to text feature would come out

[wind urchin]

help.openai.com/en/

[desert thunder]

open ai doesnt have support

[wind urchin]

click on the chat banner on the bottom right

[rugged leaf]

Hello, one quick question. Why the knowledge of ChatGPT is limited until 2021?

[quasi mason]

oh really? I have no idea how to do it. Today I sent the request for access to the waiting list

[gritty nimbus]

You have to pay

[quasi mason]

oh

[wind urchin]

If you are a plus user, you start a new chat, and click on "Chatgpt 3.5" then choose GPT-4

[quasi mason]

ohh, I understand, thank you

[wind urchin]

now it just sells, no more list

👍 😀

[wind urchin]

You mean GPT-4? It’s because GPT-4 has the same architecture as GPT-3, and it’s still incomplete.

[bold portal]

history is back finally

[vernal kelp]

*similar training data

[quasi mason]

thx

[wind urchin]

20 dolars / month

[prisma oriole]

Oh if you are using a free version of it is it not yet chatgpt 4?

[rugged leaf]

Does is not can be completed o be up to date?

[vernal kelp]

yep, free version is chatgpt3.5

[quasi mason]

yup, i know, but I decided not to pay that subscription

[gritty nimbus]

hhh

[prisma oriole]

What is the difference? Or does it have big difference?

[desert thunder]

false, gpt-4 is not the same architecture, its multimodal

also you wouldnt know because openai doesnt open source anything :p

[hollow vortex]

that's what i'm hoping! 😄

[desert thunder]

there is no support in openai

i mean "techincally" there is but they dont reply so its not there as far as anyone is concerned

[vernal kelp]

gpt-4 is claimed to be better at reasoning and conciseness

[desert thunder]

there is a big difference

[prisma oriole]

In what way?

[desert thunder]

its more truthful and more likely to solve problems correctly

gpt-3.5 struggles with basic math, gpt-4 doesnt

[gloomy atlas]

history still gone?

[desert thunder]

better at coding

@gloomy atlas its back

[gloomy atlas]

Also tested bard... horrible at code

[desert thunder]

bard is not supposed to code anyway

[gloomy atlas]

not for me, unfortunately.. any suggestions?

[desert thunder]

but its terrible on what its supposed to do anyway

[red egret]

Google sent out 'Invitations' to bard, but they just linked to the waitlist signup. You are invited to wait, I guess.

[desert thunder]

clear cache or go private browsing mode

[vernal kelp]

last time my history was gone i had to log out and back in on the web page

[gloomy atlas]

I was invited to use.. got my invite an hour ago lol

[desert thunder]

yah i got it yesterday

bard is horrible no point in using it, just use bing

[odd wing]

bard is generally crappy - it's almost embarrassingly bad all things considered compared to the other bots out there...

I mean, my llama 13b server spits out results I'd probably favor over bard, rofl

[red egret]

Being invited to see the waitlist signup actually made me mad and less interested in Bard. Like, they knew they were doing clickbait and did it anyway.

[desert thunder]

google fell of hard 😂

[lament mauve]

does chatgpt now use gpt4? and does it have knowledge after september 2021?

[desert thunder]

no it doesnt

[smoky geyser]

anyone else's gpt4 suck?

[odd wing]

I imagine google will figure things out from here - they'll catch up, they've got the money and the horsepower to train a proper model

[desert thunder]

@smoky geyser just you bro

[hollow vortex]

😦 Thanks for letting me know, though

[odd wing]

gpt4 doesn't suck... 🙂

[desert thunder]

yes but if you want it for coding get copilot x

[smoky geyser]

it used to be sooo good but then after they removed history it started being dumb

[odd wing]

slow and expensive, though - I send most of my API work through 3.5 because it's good enough for most tasks...

[vernal kelp]

what you didnt mention is good training data, also important and usually needs to be labeled by hand

[lament mauve]

eww why do we have to spend money to buy an ai?

[odd wing]

most of the training data to run better bots is already openly available though - and you can't tell me GOOGLE doesn't have good human training data 🙂

[hollow vortex]

That was an error problem; they've fixed it now

[odd wing]

I mean, it's google - they have more data than -anyone-

[desert thunder]

big difference but again, use copilot x because its based on gpt-4 but there is no message limit

[honest compass]

history is back

[smoky geyser]

damn whaaa

[fading canyon]

isnt copilot X gpt4

[odd wing]

but for now, their bot sucks, so it doesn't matter 🙂

[desert thunder]

@fading canyon it is, but without the limit

[solar mortar]

history is not back for me yet

[red egret]

It hallucinates less, produces more concise code.. there's probably more, but those I noticed.

[honest compass]

yes

[desert thunder]

ye

[wind urchin]

I wish all people were like chatgpt. You just tell them to do something and they instantly do it to perfection. No egos or feelings getting in the way of their logic.

[harsh fossil]

can you send it links to a website like wikipedia or fanficion.net and have it read the page? the chatgpt version with gpt plus

[odd wing]

gpt4 has an 8k context, 32k is coming... I haven't gotten 32k access yet, only the 8k. I -think- chatgpt 3.5 had an 8k context window too, though (although I believe their API only has a 4k for the chatgpt implementation, so I might be wrong)

[desert thunder]

@wind urchin then we would lose our humanity

[solar mortar]

I cant even ask gpt a question yet. it just gives me error. And I have tried different browsers, logging in and out, clearing cookies etc. just not working for me. anyone else having this issue?

[odd wing]

32k context is remarkable based on what I've seen of it 🙂

[desert thunder]

if you want gpt-4 yes, otherwise no

[round tree]

at least you're honest

[wind urchin]

Everyone would except me 😈

[odd wing]

gpt plus makes me money, so yeah, it would be worth it at $1,000/month ;p

[proper fox]

Is gpt 4 still limited to 2021 data or no? @desert thunder

[round tree]

not too sure about this one, but @fallen snow could be a spam bot

[nova obsidian]

How?

[broken sand]

stop the discord gonna shutdown

[desert thunder]

yes mate, who cares though? if you want something up to date use bing, its based on gpt-4 anyway

[round tree]

me when i crave attention

[odd wing]

I run a business that gpt improved. ;p

[keen sparrow]

Is gpt 4 open to the public?

[nova obsidian]

Awesome. What kind of business?

[round tree]

@fallen snow lol

[odd wing]

Writing related

[desert thunder]

@keen sparrow you wish

[nova obsidian]

Ah ok

[desert thunder]

its open only if you pay

[fair iron]

spamming

[keen sparrow]

i see

[harsh fossil]

Any one try to send it a link to a website and have it read the text on the page?

[desert thunder]

it cant read links

[vernal kelp]

no point in trying sth impossible - gpt-4 has no internet access

[desert thunder]

ofcourse not

[vernal kelp]

not yet available

[harsh fossil]

though i saw that in the press release video

[odd wing]

it can't do that stock - people have released github projects that make it possible, and there's always bing which is supposedly running 4.0 and can surf the web

multi-modal (images being sent to gpt-4) isn't out yet either

[remote lichen]

It's already slow, imagine if they opened it up to read links and scan images/audio

[desert thunder]

also bing has an image generator now

[vernal kelp]

gpt-4 can handle it in general, but not on openai-chat, you need to use bing chat

[desert thunder]

its pretty good, comparable to midjourney i'd say

maybe slightly worse

[odd wing]

bing's image gen is just dall-e - it's significantly worse than what you can roll with your own stable diffusion server 🙂

[desert thunder]

you gotta prompt it right

[odd wing]

dall-e is okay, but it's not nearly as good as SD well-tuned and well-prompted, and midjourney is its own thing

[desert thunder]

like stable diffusion, its not just dalle, dalle is trash

midjourney is based on SD i believe

they dont tell you that though

[odd wing]

The bing bot, as I understand it, is just a newer version of dall-e, midjourney is definitely based on SD

[nova obsidian]

?

[desert thunder]

or they do, idk

[nova obsidian]

Lol

[odd wing]

I'd have to see a prompt that generates a decent image at bing - frankly everything I tested was lackluster 🙂

I use image gen pretty heavily

[sacred hearth]

did anyone notice the gpt 3.5 getting better at remembering the conversation after the fix?

[desert thunder]

I just run stable diffusion on colab for free tbh

no censor and no gpu needed

[odd wing]

I run it on a home server for speed/simplicity, mostly. Plus I have a fairly customized install with a ton of options (controlnet, etc)

[desert thunder]

yah i got automatic1111 working on colab

[odd wing]

ultimately I like running my tools on my own devices - eventually I'd like to run an LLM that is gpt-3.5 comparable too, but we aren't quite there yet 🙂

I'm running a 13b llama right now, and that's actually remarkably good for an untuned model

[desert thunder]

@odd wing that thing needs 80gb vram 💀

[odd wing]

but I want to run 30b or 65b to see how they do instead 🙂

[desert thunder]

aint no way thats happening soon

[odd wing]

sure it is

[desert thunder]

unless you can buy an a100

[pastel estuary]

Ngl gpt4 is terrible when it comes to programming

[desert thunder]

@pastel estuary thats just you bro

you dont know how to instruct it

[broken sand]

any ETA for gpt 5 guys??

[pastel estuary]

💀 kid if u knew...

[desert thunder]

kid?

[pastel estuary]

idc how old u are mate 😂

[odd wing]

anyway, 13b doesn't need huge ram

[grave steeple]

what's this

[odd wing]

4 bit quantization runs 13b on 8gb - I'm running it on a 12gb 3080ti... apparently 30b runs on a 24gb if I wanted to upgrade

[pastel estuary]

just saying gpt4 is trash for coding 100% it doesnt know how to do new unique code or even fix the code

[odd wing]

plus, we are now running some of these models on pure CPU - for example you can run a slow version of this on just about anything with a CPU in it 🙂

somebody got alpaca 7b running on a raspberry pi at 1 token/second, which is insane really...

[rough tapir]

power costs?

[desert thunder]

thats just wrong, I got it to write really specific scripts and it got them mostly correct on the first try

[odd wing]

so, efficiency in training, more efficient models, we'll get a GPT 3.5 at home this year, imho

[desert thunder]

if you dont know how to code I see why you can say its bad, but its really amazing

[pastel estuary]

its because you maybe do roblox scripts, I do actual coding

[odd wing]

cheap

[desert thunder]

i work in deep learning research

[pastel estuary]

kid.. again you are too funny

[rough tapir]

really

[round tree]

why would you use a language model to write your code?? theres literally code models

[desert thunder]

"developer and designer" btw

[odd wing]

I mean, it's just running off my computer - it's cheap as running my computer ;p

here, hang on a sec, I'll spool my server up, rofl

[pastel estuary]

please hop off my meat alrdy

[round tree]

youre losing this one bad stop trying

[pastel estuary]

in the playground or wym

[odd wing]

oh, can't send links here or I'd share the server, lol

[desert thunder]

okay buddy, go program your real software aka browser plugins

[odd wing]

anyway, no big deal 🙂

[rough tapir]

thats ok

[pastel estuary]

dryer than the dessert kid

[pastel estuary]

again wym

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[round tree]

lol dessert

[odd wing]

frankly, at this point I think people are sleeping on the fact that code might not even be required to do most of what we want to do - I mean, these bots can create output as if code exists, without the code...

[pastel estuary]

are u an npc or u just dont know the language?

[desert thunder]

"the lang"

[odd wing]

like, go ask chatgpt: "Lets play a cyberpunk 2077 text based RPG. Start the game!"

[pastel estuary]

u stopped cryin yet?

[desert thunder]

"(edited)"

[odd wing]

a whole game will emerge, automatically, playable, and no code is running... it just knows what to display because it knows what it SHOULD display 🙂

[desert thunder]

😂 youre too funny

[pastel estuary]

yet u cry.. shame

[odd wing]

tag that kind of logic into a front end GUI and you don't need the code at all 🙂

[round tree]

you meant to say "desert" as in the vast expanse of sand. not the funny dessert foods. "u just dont know the language"

[odd wing]

just an LLM, thinking in the background and showing you what you wanted to see

[pastel estuary]

alr not my point

[desert thunder]

this dude is the biggest npc in this chat 😂

getting offended by strangers on discord 😂

[pastel estuary]

yet you are using the "😂 " calling me npc

[odd wing]

at this point, I think we're rapidly heading toward a dead internet where most of our interactions will be with NPCs, lol

[round tree]

gotta respect the man for not giving up already thats some real misguided commitment

[odd wing]

I swear my old reddit haunts are already swarming with bots...

[viral ice]

did y’all’s schools ban chat gpt

[pastel estuary]

openai community are just bunch of discord kitten lovers fr

[odd wing]

I've given up on even trying to determine if someone is real or not - the AI is toog ood 🙂

[round tree]

me when i lose argument

[desert thunder]

bro is including himself in this 💀

exposed

[wind urchin]

i am sry to ask here, but here is the most popular channel:

i am using this to transcript: !whisper "exemplo.mp3" --language pt --task transcribe --model medium

but how can i transcript just a specific part of the audio? like from 3:00 to 10:00

[wind urchin]

#gpt-4-faq

I know it’s “multimodal”

[quick meteor]

Once again, I saw the chat history of ChatGPT, but after refreshing the page, it disappeared.

[open blaze]

is the history just gone again! i swear it just work 5 min ago!

[desert thunder]

they dont really say anything meaningful about it

[wind urchin]

It’s still in its incomplete state, I think when it’s completed it probably would be updated

[desert thunder]

"similar" just means it uses transformers

refreshed, history is still here

[wind urchin]

fair

[wind urchin]

it works

I think it probably still doesn’t know for some people

[ornate tendon]

How would they enforce this

[desert thunder]

they cant enforce anything 😂

[ornate tendon]

Lol

[viral ice]

They ban it on school devices

[desert thunder]

they are rejecting it just like how schools rejected calculators

[viral ice]

Oh

[ornate tendon]

But it's a website?

[desert thunder]

yeah they can block websites

[viral ice]

I’m not sure how they do it

[ornate tendon]

Oh

[desert thunder]

but thats fine, you kids have phones right?

[rough tapir]

its easy

[ornate tendon]

True

[ornate tendon]

Yeah the education system needs an overhaul

[desert thunder]

yeah schools are just very close minded like that

they dont like change, especially not innovative change

[high helm]

they dont want people cheating on their esssay

they dont care if you are innovative or not

besides you can still just use external device to use chatGPT

[desert thunder]

then have them write written essays if its writing that is being tested

like in an exam scenario

[high helm]

You can copy stuff down from ChatGPT

[desert thunder]

no

in an exam scenario, closed book

invigilated

[high helm]

You want teachers to supervise their students in an exam scenario for every essay??

[carmine crag]

that sounds pretty normal for exams

[desert thunder]

if the essay is testing writing skills yes

if the essay is about something entirely different then chatgpt should be allowed

[high helm]

What about for every essay you write

[desert thunder]

chatgpt cant do research for you anyway

[carmine crag]

k

[high helm]

it doesnt have to if it can write the entire essay for you

[desert thunder]

with what references?

[uncut gorge]

For an essay I did a little bit of research then provided it with the research and it was able to write an average essay

[desert thunder]

the hallucinated paper it pulled out of its a**?

but there, you did the research

writing should be assessed seperately

[uncut gorge]

Thats true

[high helm]

i see banning chatGPT on all educational devices to be a fair easy way to make it harder to use chatGPT

you can use home devices at any time

[desert thunder]

yeah thats just pointless

[high helm]

schools block everything now aday

nowadays*

[desert thunder]

I'm sure every kid there has a smartphone with 5g on it

😂

[uncut gorge]

Lmao true even when ai wasn't as prevalent I liked to wrote my essays only at home

[fading canyon]

My card is being declined when I'm trying to upgrade, is it because it's a giftcard?

[desert thunder]

probably^

[pastel estuary]

@desert thunder nvm I got everything right when FINALLY told the right instructions to it, because oh boy it wasnt fun at all when it repeatedly sent the same code over and over again said it fixed the error

[high helm]

yeah but most schools can actually take a childs cell phone (I dont agree with it) if it is seen being used

[terse spade]

class OBJECT_PT_snap_panel(bpy.types.Panel):
bl_label = "Snap Objects"
bl_idname = "OBJECT_PT_snap_panel"
bl_space_type = 'VIEW_3D'
bl_region_type = 'UI'
bl_category = "Snapping"

def draw(self, context):
    layout = self.layout
    layout.prop(context.scene, "snap_mode")
    layout.operator(OBJECT_OT_snap_operator.bl_idname)

classes = (OBJECT_OT_snap

code cuts off in the middle, what can i do to make it finish what it started?

[high helm]

It makes it so you at least have to do something easier to see to cheat

[terse spade]

it does not seem to know that it is not finished

[pastel estuary]

@round tree bro shush

[desert thunder]

always figured thats illegal, even though you technically signed a paper that says the school is allowed to

[high helm]

i hate it but

probably already been to supreme court and they said its ok

[desert thunder]

say "continue" its not that hard

[high helm]

knowing america

[regal reef]

half of the time you can just tell it to continue, other times you have to divide it into smaller tasks and then tell it, what are you generating?

[terse spade]

once you turn 18 and if you are still at the same place, does that mean it's techincally possible to use it

[remote lichen]

When it stops generating, usually you can get it to continue just by prompting something like "continue on"

[desert thunder]

no clue

[high helm]

i think they are still allowed to take your cell phone sadly

[terse spade]

i have been doing that 10 times now and i've run out of requests, it's a bit ridiculous

[terse spade]

hmm that's interesting, especially if nothing has been signed

[round tree]

had to take a little break there?

[high helm]

most the time you have to sign to be enrolled.

[uncut gorge]

At my school you can decline a confiscation of your phone but our resource officer can take it and it might come with a suspension

[desert thunder]

oh they wouldnt be taking your phone if you didnt sign, they dont want that lawsuit 😂

[pastel estuary]

Ye got no time for u

[high helm]

my teacher took my phone because there was notification

🗿

[tired tinsel]

Does number of characters also matter for a question? Or, does only number of tokens matter?

[round tree]

surely you do if you came back after like 20 mins lol. if you really didnt have the time you would've left it dumbass

[terse spade]

i'm just asking because i genuinely like to find loopholes, but if your parents signed something when you were enrolled and under 18, would that not be invalid once you turn 18 if you did not sign anything? because where i am, the person enrolling is not required to sign anything when enrolling

[desert thunder]

teachers be like that, gets better after school dont worry

[remote lichen]

must be a long response, maybe it ran out of tokens in the session. What's it say when you ask it "how many tokens used?"

[red egret]

The school argument reminds me of how teachers were against graphing calculators, because they have a solver function, but failed to see that they were actually depriving the children of a tool they'd likely need to rely on later in college (or life depending on their field of study/career).

[high helm]

I see...

Nice idea, I dont know.

[odd wing]

While that's a respectable take, I will point out as a former teacher that current students DO NOT READ OR WRITE 🙂

[woeful swallow]

why can't i load chatgpt now? it was fine ytd.

[odd wing]

ask a high schooler what their favorite book is ;p

they haven't even read one, unless it was forced upon them...

[desert thunder]

says you, i had a favorite book in high school 😦

[odd wing]

back when I was in school everyone had a book - I devoured novels. Nowadays...

[red egret]

That's my point, they use computers and calculators. When I was in school, we could have learned these tools sooner if the resistance to change and adaptation were not there.

[high helm]

Talking about current generation

[terse spade]

it was 2449 chars / 491 words long and it seems like it cuts off at 2449 characters all the time except one time

[thorny valley]

so GitHub Copilot X looks promising. Google Bard looks like another option along with ChatGPT. 🙂

Microsoft 365 with a better ChatGPT is also coming out.

[odd wing]

well, I'm pointing out that letting something do the reading and writing for us means the students won't have those skills, and I'd argue that reading and writing skills are more important than the ability to multiply in our heads...

hell, being able to use LLM effectively requires good control of language 🙂

[high helm]

i am concerned for my own generation. The kids in my classes are honestly some of the dumbest people i know. i dont understand how someone cannot have any reading comprehension

[desert thunder]

thats why I think there should be written invigilated exams only for writing skills

[thorny valley]

OpenAI is not really closed because it's basically nearly free.

[red egret]

Typing is modern writing, and computers still show things in text to be read. Schooling needs to adapt to the current technology is all I am saying.

[desert thunder]

In university, being able to write a good paper by yourself is now pointless because gpt does it for you, even researchers are using it to write introductions and abstracts to their papers right now

[high helm]

you need to be able to write 💀

A child needs to be able to write cant change my mind about that

[odd wing]

Yes, typing is modern writing, but what I'm saying is GPT style writers don't require much in the way of human writing effort :). If you use that to substitute your own reading and comprehension, you lose in the end.

I mean, I could sit here and have GPT read all my kid's classwork and answer all their questions or write their papers... but they'd never learn proper reading comprehension if I did.

[red egret]

But that's a problem of curriculum, not really of the tool itself.

[high helm]

No its not

[odd wing]

Is it now? Have you taught recently? It's rough out there.

I go back and teach every few years just to keep myself sharp and help the next gen 🙂

I'm on a break right now (covid absolutely sapped my will to teach)

but, prior to that... hell, kids don't even want to TYPE anymore 🙂

[high helm]

Its not a problem with curriculum if kids are cheating and actually shooting themselves in the foot because when they get out of school they know jack squat

[red egret]

Oh, so I should stay in my lane and have no opinions? My mistake.

[desert thunder]

honestly chatgpt wont change AS much in school assuming there are written exams, students still need to understand the concepts for each subject and be able to write out an answer

[odd wing]

give them a problem that requires reading comprehension and they fail miserably even at high school level

[wind urchin]

what they want then/

[odd wing]

No, I'm asking if you have experience in a recent classroom as a teacher - not diminishing your opinion.

[wind urchin]

just audios?

[odd wing]

I'm pointing out that right now, teaching is weird, man. We've got 45 kids in a classroom, nobody reads...

pandemonium with extremely lacking comprehension skills

[remote lichen]

If they not reading what are they doing?

[odd wing]

I agree that GPT style llms need to be taught to kids - hell, I think there should be entire classes for that 🙂

[high helm]

yes its so true. these kids cannot read and answer multiple choice anymore

[odd wing]

not reading, lol

they're using tiktok - just 5 second endorphin hits right to the face

[round tree]

what a bad way to handle someone interacting with your argument

[odd wing]

teaching these days is 90% trying to keep the kids from flipping through tiktok under the table, 5% trying to keep them from killing you, 5% teaching ;p

[desert thunder]

yeah this is the era we live in 🥲 ADHD is on the rise

[remote lichen]

Yikes. I'm so out of touch with the education system these days

[odd wing]

I mean, it's pretty rough

[nimble owl]

is there any free trial for ChatGPT 4?

[honest geyser]

No

[nimble owl]

ok

[desert thunder]

if you pay $20 yes there is

[high helm]

i have adhd it has imparied my ability in a classroom slightly. but there are just normal kids just dumb as a log i mean

[high helm]

waitlist for api

[thorny valley]

OpenAI needs to make a program where I can attach ChatGPT to read what I'm doing in the game to make me play better

[odd wing]

I kid of course, but kids do NOT read. I mean, ask a classroom full of highschoolers what the LAST book they read was

they'll name a book high-school required. They never read for pleasure. None of them. It's wild.

[fallow hawk]

Haha I recently graduated high school. Have never read a book to completion 😆

[remote lichen]

I heard Tiktok about to get banned

[odd wing]

Exactly this

they avoid books like the plague - they say they'

[high helm]

yeah yeah every couple months

[odd wing]

they say they're boring 🙂

[wind urchin]

not even harry potter? :/

[desert thunder]

yeah i get it, but i think all this dopamine overload decreases the ability of the kids to focus

[stray cargo]

oh hey chat history is back

[high helm]

fr

[drowsy berry]

If your response gets cut off in the middle just send the word continue and it will pickmupmwhere it left of

[odd wing]

on the plus side, it gives me one hell of a competitive edge today

[fallow hawk]

depends if others have access to ChatGPT 😄

[odd wing]

I grew up writing, I type 171 wpm, I cut my teeth on MUDS in the 90s... I'm used to existing in a text-only world 🙂

I can do things with LLM that these kids aren't even considering.

[desert thunder]

hmm when I was in school, we had the nerds/ people who read books and the people who didnt

i think its not so different actually

[odd wing]

we still have "nerds" I guess, but it's very different - when I was a kid most students had a book in their bag, and most kids read

my last year of teaching I saw ONE student reading a novel, one time, all year

one

[desert thunder]

but I dont count novels

[odd wing]

and that's not hyperbole 🙂

[desert thunder]

because novels are for entertainment

[wind urchin]

where u from?

[odd wing]

was teaching in AZ - terrible place to teach. Moved away from there a year ago.

[wind urchin]

what is az

[desert thunder]

state?

[odd wing]

Arizona.

[fallow hawk]

All information in books are reshaped and reformed thru different creators on all content platforms anyway

[wind urchin]

ah

[fallow hawk]

Only makes sense we consume it this way

[wind urchin]

they let kids use cellphones in class?

[desert thunder]

if nerds arent reading books, they are looking at tutorials on youtube

[odd wing]

AZ is terrible for education - you get thrown into a room with 45 kids, no support, no curriculum, no supplies. Last year I was teaching chemistry with no freaking lab supplies and a lab room built for 20 kids. Smallest class = 41

[fallow hawk]

The right information still spreads since thats just the market imo but in different forms

[desert thunder]

to me its the same thing, they are learning

[odd wing]

they don't let kids use phones, but do you think that stops kids from using phones? ROFL

[wind urchin]

haha

[odd wing]

all class long... "Hey, Mark, is something interesting under the table?"

[prime rain]

Oh yay my stuff came back

[odd wing]

and it's always some stupid tiktok yoga pant dance ;p

anyway, I'm out for now

high school is weird these days 🙂

[prime rain]

Fr

[odd wing]

I wish those kids luck, but hell, I wouldn't hire any of them, rofl

[normal cliff]

h

[wind urchin]

tik tok is the most brainwash social media nowadays i think

[odd wing]

I wouldn't hire them to mow my lawn ;p

[dim breach]

yoo guyz

im here again bebe

[wind urchin]

rip youtube, were real content were shown

[odd wing]

anyway, I'm out

[wind urchin]

where*

[odd wing]

gl everyone - especially the youngins

[dim breach]

i wanna know than how do i know that my API request is accepted

[odd wing]

they'll send you an email legend

[dim breach]

yaeh im a young engine

[dim breach]

ok thxestimated time?

[red egret]

Maybe schools should start painting the classrooms with RF-IE50 Radio Frequency 5G and EMF Shielding Paint. It essentially makes the room into a Faraday cage. I've only seen it used in secure data centers to prevent exfiltration. You enter the room and you loose your reception.

[dim breach]

estimated*

[brave beacon]

That'd be like a billion dollars

[spice ice]

Why is ChatGPT 4 making mistakes and not as smart as it once was?

[wind urchin]

why my conversation history state is:'unable to load history'

[brave beacon]

Mines back. Maybe clear cookies

[wind urchin]

thanks

[spice ice]

Has anyone noticed that ChatGPT 4 intelligent ability has been scaled back or is it just me?

[red egret]

I haven't seen any difference from the other day to today, can you give an example?

[desert thunder]

no but they might be running it on half precision to be able to support more users

[weary patio]

are the servers down?

[desert thunder]

no

[weary patio]

ty

[red egret]

"We believe we have identified the issue causing the elevated latency and error rates, and have taken the appropriate mitigations."
Posted 12 minutes ago. Mar 22, 2023 - 18:25 PDT

From the status site

[glass fjord]

Alright just hopped on let’s read all the 0 IQ questions

[stoic lodge]

anyone try the bing ai compose thing? has a ui for writing different types of text like emails, blog posts, etc, with a few options, seems to have a longer output than regular bing (gave me 800 words first go)

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[harsh wagon]

Because some of its buddies got him hooked on that vape pen 🖊️

[wind urchin]

Good joke pal.

[harsh wagon]

Wait SRLSY? From the sight they were talking specifically about the miss information n stuff right

[brave beacon]

Excited for GitHub copilot x
Uses chatGPT4

[arctic crystal]

How to use GTP4

[harsh wagon]

EXACTLY for my coding btw do u know if it can script lua scripts??

Ik lua is really easy but still

[brave beacon]

If chatGPT4 can then I'm sure copilotx will be able to.
But I usually just write bash scripts. So not 100% sure on how well it does it.

[echo wasp]

Did you mean to type that into google search?

lmfao

[harsh wagon]

Hm I guess u have a point with that can we buy it and use it or is it that’s wait list stuffff

[brave beacon]

Wait-list. I applied for it, the PR wait-list, chat wait-list, and docs wait-list lol. I'm hoping my somewhat decent sized repo gets me in soon. But who knows.

[harsh wagon]

Darnit well Ig as Chat gpt 4 is fixed on it’s bad frequent responses it will release in mean time

Cant wait though the coding capabilities seems dope! So far

[arctic crystal]

no,because I can only see GTP-3 on the official website

[brave beacon]

Yeah it's not bad. Probably won't have a job for when I graduate college for coding, or at least not for long lol. But it is what it is

[brave nest]

Is there a way to upgrade free account to plus, I have no way to purchase