[Diesel: Winter Sweets] New Unit Megathread

[finite plover]

pull but skip

[floral falcon]

I already mlbed

[finite plover]

I know

but the OL can wait

[floral falcon]

And she is like 2nd bis elysion tower dps

Helm aint enough

[hexed barn]

I ran outta fucking credits ol’ing her

late game is absolute piss

[finite plover]

for bossing yes

for mobbing

meh

HelmTr - XMaiden - Diesel probably fight for 3rd best mobber

first being TVesti

for bossing, she is definitely 2nd best after Rapipi

[hexed barn]

It’s elyshit tower

Not that hard to be second best to rapi

[floral falcon]

I would rather invest my shit into vanilla queen diesel

And not cuck anis

and vesti not worth it except for pvp

[floral falcon]

hit rate useless right?

[floral falcon]

bossing

mobbing

[analog coral]

Diesel op

https://tenor.com/view/upkg-ff-upkgff-gian-gian-singing-meme-gian-singing-gif-5409083318264661328

[nocturne plume]

unless ur her teammate

[nimble flame]

so she's about as good as mihara on element

that's pretty fuckin solid tbh

to be as good as a half anni overspec

[silk oracle]

Arguably better since she buffs teammates, too

[finite plover]

What causes the huge cp diff here

You keep forgetting Diesel's damage taken smh @granite grove

MiharaBC has strong offburst dmg

compared to even Rapipi

thats why she looks strong with Diesel

reality is

Diesel beats both

[floral falcon]

only 1 atk line

and 3 empty lines

go ahead laugh

[finite plover]

give full OL for both

[floral falcon]

you mean stats in total?

oh she has 2 atk lines nvm

[finite plover]

I still think Diesel deserves SSS. We might see her in Neutral.

[floral falcon]

so mihara 20 atk 85 elemental diesel has 46 atk 86 ele

[finite plover]

for instance in Iron we might see something like Liter Nayuta Raven Diesel Mihara

[finite plover]

[floral falcon]

the other rolls suck

[finite plover]

Can you run Rapipi Mihara

[floral falcon]

I need like 100 rocks to fix mihara but all of them went to diesel

bossing?

[finite plover]

yes

[finite plover]

But both suck at mobbing.

[floral falcon]

aight gonna let it auto

[finite plover]

dafuq

Diesel will lose because less burst gen then

did you auto Diesel?

thanks though

[floral falcon]

yes auto every time

im not that autistic for tryhard union range math

[spiral rover]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1pfwglo/mega_guide_diesel_winter_sweets_review/

[gloomy fern]

Got this reroll

[lyric tundra]

nice

now remove that HR and get an atk%

[gloomy fern]

I have the same for another piece

Just gonna get more expensive

[lyric tundra]

ah yeah

black line cr on 3rd is gonna be rough

-3 rocks, -50 locks every reroll

ngl locks harder to get than rocks

[shut hemlock]

Is ur diesel not max skills?

[lone merlin]

10-10-10

LB0

[shut hemlock]

Hmm how did mine do more dmg

[lone merlin]

LB1

plus you have an ammo roll I guess?

[shut hemlock]

That doesnt make up for the ele and atk gap

1 ammo roll but she doesnt need ammo

[lone merlin]

What's your Rei investments tho?

Mine's 7-7-7

[shut hemlock]

Thats probably it then mines maxed

Still like a 15 sync gap idk how many stats that is

r u running resilience on diesel

[gloomy fern]

Nah it's good enough. As shown in the pins, getting crits is acceptable

So me getting a black crit rate slot is a mini win

[drowsy folio]

Indivilia

[rigid crystal]

i used all my crystals and no diesel, wat do, should i spend mileage

[finite plover]

Killed?

Faster than Mihara or no?

[silk oracle]

How much mileage do you have?

[drowsy folio]

killed, i didnt test on my acc so i dont know the diff between Mih

[runic trail]

on my end i tested nvidia w thelm comp, and mihara wins by a wide margin, doing cmcccm rotation

[obtuse igloo]

imagine getting ur debuff despelled

[silk oracle]

Does that mean that Mihara + X Diesel would be strongest pair?

Rapi lost to both

[lone merlin]

Yes

lvl 15

[spiral rover]

srosaT when

[inner crypt]

Rapi is b1 in those ss

[runic trail]

for rapib1+diesel+mihara comp, i tested it on SR and its great tbh (bursting first with thelm here)

[spiral rover]

rapi b3 still win over the 2, but xdiesel should do less than mihara

[inner crypt]

Sadly in UR you cannot split rapi in iron fire and b1

[upper crag]

with current support (favor attack damage heavily), Diesel won't be able to beat Mihara, also Diesel even buffs Mihara more during Diesel's burst

[hollow kayak]

SR only unit 🥀

i hope they save anis so this winter isn't a complete disappointment

and by save i mean make her really fat

[sacred lily]

Does the sweat taste better between belly folds?

[hollow kayak]

You can add some crumbs for flavor

[hexed barn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315285264947613726/1445375138479603832/bready_burst_sc.gif

[hollow kayak]

Kind of sad they put the camera on top so it focuses on the same cow tits every character ever has instead of her unique assets

But it's okay

[silent schooner]

Chubchasers are in the minority, so this is the farthest compromise SU can go

[sacred lily]

I mean if the camera was at the bottom her belly was gonna block the tits

[hollow kayak]

Yes. (And that's a good thing!)

[hollow kayak]

Every time they make a fat bitch everyone instantly cums and then the lobby is mid or the unit is mid and everyone uncums

You'd think they'd get the hint after Elegg and Bready both blew up

[sacred lily]

Hey at least the fat enjoyers have something

Still waiting for the 1st femboy NIKKE

[silent schooner]

There were a lot of femboy NIKKE, you know

It's just that they're all dead

The second their brain was put into NIKKE body

It's in the lore

[sacred lily]

Yes I am aware of that actually

Waiting for a pilgrim outlier

It's destined

[silent schooner]

Never unless SU is willing to tank their income and will never regain it back

JP, KR and western chuds sperged out hard enough when they added Pascal to the game even if it's genderless

let alone adding literal male into the game

And I'd rather it stay that way because the moment their income tanks, that's when I know EoS soon will no longer be a tongue in cheek meme

[hexed barn]

Let’s hope there’s never gonna be a persona 5 collab

[hollow kayak]

(my lawyer has advised me to remove this joke.)

[obtuse igloo]

diesel buffing mihara just means diesel should be valued a little higher than that dmg

[finite plover]

Can you test how much dmg she gives to Mihara

You can try Siren Crown X Mihara MastM

X being Diesel or a non buffing B3 like idk XMaiden?

Cus both are RL

[leaden ridge]

rrh can be a test to it since she also not buffing anything to mihara, but generally ur not gonna put diesel bursting first or mihara in the crown mmast team (if u can run the miranda for SR), what more is that xdiesel in this team cant really compare bcs its hard to pull off a full 14fb rotation

ran cmc mmc, mmast all to mihara

[finite plover]

Siren XBrid Rapipi Diesel Mihara will be the strongest Indiv team?

or no

[finite plover]

She does buff MIhara.

Through Siren.

Siren gives burst gen.

It's indirect but she does in fact buff Mihara.

That's why I specifically mentioned RL.

[leaden ridge]

i mean theres no point to see how much she buffs mihara with how her hit would like to shine

[finite plover]

It's to get to know how much damage improvement she gives to someone with good off-burst damage.

But anyway,

since Diesel can't go first.

And Mihara also can't go first.

It's pointless pairing them together.

[leaden ridge]

this kinda hard to survive to the end ngl

damage loss from covering and potentially clunkier burst gen

[leaden ridge]

heres with raven

[finite plover]

heh its weird the damage taken doesnt give that much

maybe its because of Crown

ok it actually gives plenty cus whole team gets more damage

[hollow kayak]

what bloats damage taken?

[silk oracle]

Nothing. It's a debuff

[obtuse igloo]

Nothing, we have very few sources

There's like Blanc sros novel siren(5% basically rounding error worth of dilution) then xlud wasuka

If anything distributed DMG dilutes DMG taken up more than DMG taken up dilutes it

[silk oracle]

afaik nothing overlaps in the formula either since it's not a buff to Nikkes

That's what makes it basically always good

[obtuse igloo]

Dist DMG up overlaps

And other applications of DMG taken up

[silk oracle]

Oh right, distr dmg

Forgot about that

Obviously other applications do

[scenic sorrel]

if someone can give a short summary: diesel vs mihara in fire weak bosses, what are the differences in strengths and weaknesses for each?

[silk oracle]

X Diesel pros

• Buffs team damage via damage taken up debuff.

X Diesel cons

• Must burst
• Debuffs team (minorly) if insufficient part regen rate on boss
• Oversatured sus dmg buffs means that team sus dmg and atk dmg buffs are weak.
• As a seasonal unit, she will not enter wishlist for dupes.

Mihara pros

• Able to be on-burst or off-burst and still deal healthy damage.
• As an Overspec, she can be used in two manufacturer towers.

Mihara cons

• Selfish, providing nothing for team.
• Best position in fire-weak SR is with Miranda, which requires balancing ATK stats of units as well as dealing with atk targeting during FB.

Shared pros

• Deal healthy damage even without core
• Very receptive to ATK buffs & OL lines

Shared cons

• Picky about burst order. Both want to burst second, but Mihara just loses damage during first FB if she bursts first. X Diesel will have DPS loss for the entire battle.

[finite plover]

Can anyone test Diesel vs Cindy damage?

Just like flex team damage test.

Something like... Cindy Rouge/Liter Diesel Nayuta Mihara

[silk oracle]

Not the same comp, but using RH to buff X Diesel in neutral: #1445576042172387358 message

Not sure if you wanted fire-weak or not

[finite plover]

so pretty equal?

Cindy better huh

[shut hemlock]

Rapi b1 >

Will still need to test with a teammate on element since diesel dmg taken might mean more team dmg

SR5 bond 6 2 star 30atk diesel vs sr15 24atk c2 bond 40 cindy

[weary hedge]

testing from sky's stream 54b vs 51b

ig I should of sent this into brid thread

[inner crypt]

Accurate

[uneven birch]

can i post in #emoji-sticker-suggestions ?

[cinder drift]

Does X diesel want to burst in the first or second rotation?

[fallow swallow]

Second to get the better sustain damage buff

[wheat cedar]

Sure

[finite plover]

@obtuse igloo

Wrong chat.

[velvet gorge]

10>10/10?

[runic trail]

replace grave for brid and check again

this is for UR right ? brid rn is a top supporter for fire raids, buffs equal to crown both diesel/mihara, even with low burst gen you may have better scores using her instead of grave

only need skills 7/7/7 > 7/10/10 > 10/10/10

havent tested it, but i think skyjlv did some tests on his livestream

[silk oracle]

Not much

#1445588944862449825 message

I got like +700 mil on SG comp at sync 628

At sync 400, that's gonna be smaller

Honestly regret doing 10/10/10

It's another +5% damage taken up to do both skills to 10 from 7 iirc

If you think +5% damage taken is worth gold mats, go for it

Caster's ATK buff in burst

Diesel wants ATK more tho

I always consider dupes more worthwhile for seasonals since no spooks

Good for building mileage

Cuz I don't pull on 1% more than 30

(if that)

Ah right, it's 40

[runic trail]

test running now thelm instead of rei, and check the dmg

[junior loom]

is this shooting range ?

i mean the boss has core

so diesel is at a disadvantage

my 94/25 full 10 sr5 diesel deal 2.2b dmg on a Liter Grave Rei Mod Diesel comp in SR

i think it's good enough

that's like almost the amount of dmg an okay-ish invested absolute trio gonna do

[weary hedge]

no core no parts

diesel should probaly match rapi

12/12 rapi 104/50 vs 91/43

[junior loom]

fire Raven sound like an apt description tbh

[weary hedge]

this raid

[junior loom]

this trigger me so much

[weary hedge]

also c4 vs c1

[junior loom]

we only get 1 rapi per year, relax chief

[hollow kayak]

super anis is only allowed to be overpowered if they fix her art and make her really fat

[runic trail]

hmm it was a nice diff for me, guess it depends on investment and etc

[rugged oracle]

Have anyone test?
Liter-Brid-Rapi-Diesel-Mihara
Vs
Liter-Brid-Rapi-Rei-Mihara

[exotic venture]

Is she worth doll SR 15

[river sentinel]

I forgot if I ever gave her a SR15 doll

[faint swan]

did something change between last pins

asking because we got fresh pins here

[ancient mango]

gonna update the main post image with a gif so #1046549179918458890 thumbnails look cleaner

but pinning the skills images on a separate message so they can be read without having to wait on a gif

[faint swan]

the first post after the main image is the kit with 2 images

were they outdated

or this was just faster

[ancient mango]

I didn't notice that post since it wasn't pinned but as it so happens they are kinda oudated lol

looks like there's a typo on the old image

and also a part of S2 has been rewritten for clarity

[wheat cedar]

Blame discord and their inability to be able to modify the images without removing all embeds