[Dorothy: Serendipity] New Unit Megathread

[unborn trout]

i tried several more rolls and i guess imma stop at here, 4 ammo 4 ele and extra 1 cdmg

thanks for the advice

[gaunt mulch]

Don't stop before 12/12

[chilly idol]

only rock mine owners can say that

im rock mine slave

[gaunt mulch]

Me who have been fishing for the line 1 on cindy for 3 weeks

[unborn trout]

[novel apex]

She's been great this raid.. nice to have an actual water dps.. now i need to roll higher on some ammo rolls and she's good for a while

[lapis thistle]

1 high ammo line should be enough in shotgun team right

[frigid pendant]

i got one and she only reloads once during burst

no manual play

shes staying hella bricked for a while

need to save rocks for anni units

[serene notch]

Cursed gloves

[frigid pendant]

this is like 40-50 rocks and its shit

ive gotten 4 rerolls on the gloves with the exact stats

line one crit rate line 2 attack

[ashen mantle]

What's her best cube?

[odd python]

bastion

than resilience

[serene notch]

Probably depends on levels and your team

Higher level cubes give elemental damage and reload speed gets better if you can stack it

[ashen mantle]

I want to build a stronk Doro

I think i can level to 15 one cube

[serene notch]

Bro went all out

Like it's rapi

If you went to 12/12 and are even considering not maxing the doll

Especially since I think all of doros damage counts as normal attack?

And it should be a separate multiplier from everything else

[ashen mantle]

Just need to choose her cube

[rotund geode]

this is why specializing in water weak is dead

whales have core max sdoro now to push you out

[serene notch]

Imagine maining water

Main electro like a normal person

There's like 30 electro dps

[frigid pendant]

your doro looks like my rapi

[uncut pasture]

Nice flexing chat

[soft basalt]

Summer Doro smacks Yan with one hand.
Pepper smacks Yan with no hands but with a pair of dangerous weapons.
Yan mid.

[serene notch]

Yan is so sex

[digital palm]

I sure love the rerolling system so much

[gaunt mulch]

why are you reseting attributes?

[digital palm]

[bitter isle]

Bazinga piece

[soft basalt]

Questing for black line DEF

[serene notch]

the bready tech

get fatter for extra def

[kind horizon]

I was honestly thinking why you hunting for black def line

[digital palm]

https://tenor.com/view/하루우라라-gif-26453523

[solemn pawn]

What's OL line for her?

What if only has 1 ammo line?

[rotund geode]

then you're already 1 overload line closer to what she needs

that's a good thing

[solemn pawn]

Is atk% OL is a must though?

I missing Elemental damage in one gear
I don't know if i need to sacrifice one line to get Elemental damage

No rock
Raid is come to an end

[bitter isle]

My doro accidentally got 3x hit rate

[soft basalt]

Not a must. Elemental Damage is the biggest factor for her, the rest are icing on the cake, though maybe some of the secondaries are better than others... like maybe Hit Rate can be beneficial

Atk is still a safe stat to get, it's good in all situations for her, so don't take what I said to mean you can replace Atk with CritRate and think it's comparable It's not

[solemn pawn]

Hope at least i can get elemental damage on the last day

[wooden pawn]

sdoro wants 10/10/10 as recommended?

[bitter isle]

Yes

[unique hill]

So like is this unit game changing type or am i gonna be fine skipping her?

[rotund geode]

depends on what parts of the game you're looking for to be changed

[soft basalt]

She shakes the tree a bit.

If Eve was the kind to run into the tree and faint without making it even quiver, SDoro shakes the tree and leaves fall. Maybe a couple apples fall too.

RapiOs destroys the tree

[unique hill]

RapiOs?

[kind horizon]

Rapipi

[bitter isle]

I wish my rapi had my doro OL gear rolls

[unique hill]

Oh yeah I have overspec rapi

[kind horizon]

You mean hit rate and charge damage?

[bitter isle]

😭

[lapis ravine]

Game changing is a strong phrase.

She doesn't.

[minor raft]

I don’t know. Her ass jiggle is truly game changing. Probably the best in the game imo.

[serene notch]

NTR jiggle

[kind horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245939636702810225/1395276135578996777/hTA42QT.gif

that's some gameplay

[open marsh]

[serene notch]

Dorussy

[wooden pawn]

man my rolls freaking suck man

2 atk, 2 ele, 2.5 ammo (one of them is a freaking 20% ammo)

ya know what that's good enough

-90 rocks

i think I'm just going to have to ditch this SR man, I don't have any rocks left to make my dps good XD

honestly... wouldn't atk actually be more value than elemental on sdoro? assuming she is used in every shotgun team in any raid

instead of a 20% chance for the line to be effective, atk is always good

alr pog I have 8 rocks, time to get more charge speed on my tove instead of ammo :D

[rotund geode]

no because she isn't the playmaker outside of water weak

[wooden pawn]

well isn't she a stable bursting b3 on the shotgun team regardless of element?

I don't have tdrake to use

oh well

I have her built as best i can

[unique hill]

Good

I don't want a repeat of the crown incident

[serene notch]

a busted dps isn't as bad as a busted support

worst case is electro getting at least one team in every SR because cinderella exists

[agile estuary]

Yes and no, ele dmg is the most valuable when it works every time, even our Meta/neutral dps wants it

When it doesn't work then sure atk is better than ele

But at the same time between the buffs provided on the team atk up is much lower value than ele

[wooden pawn]

I just care about water raid the least

and so I sort of just mentally place elemental on water dps as less value because I don't do water raids very much

[agile estuary]

yea but that becomes a self fulfilling prophacy right

u never invest in the few good/decent water units we have so u dont play water then u invest less into them

i understand ones that are actually not great but qeq/xlud/helmt/bready/doro are acceptable

at the end of the day its ur acc tho

[wooden pawn]

well the goal at the end is to get 4x atk and 4x ele

cause then i get best of both worlds

i was going to invest into my sdoro anyway

I just plan to probably prio atk 3rd line over ele 3rd line

[edgy mason]

do i need ammo or crit

[clear compass]

ammo ammo ammo ammo

[edgy mason]

are you sure

[orchid dagger]

@edgy masonyou'll want at least 27-28 ammo with bastion at the start of fb
this is with tove

[edgy mason]

thats too much ammo

[frigid pendant]

why tf are you asking for advice then doubting said advice

[edgy mason]

what if i use her for pvp

[half halo]

In pvp, do 34 ammo

[soft basalt]

Indomitable SDoro killing everyone

[half halo]

nope

[soft basalt]

doubt

[open bane]

just double down

always works

[agile estuary]

in pvp reconsider why ur using doro

[lapis ravine]

Alice for noobs

[open fable]

chat is she worth 12 lines at the cost of possible 150-200 rocks?

[odd osprey]

If you care about water-weak raids or are a heavy hitter in UR

[open fable]

i also heard crit = atk for her?

because of atk buff dilution

[frigid pendant]

im pretty sure you’d need to hit 300% attack for it to be diluted enough

so just add up the buffs and see if it goes over that

[dull gate]

Not really. Think of it like this. ATK% on OL = increases her base damage perm. Crit = Increases her ceiling damage occasionally.

[frigid pendant]

with tove theres now a 25% to crit so

[dull gate]

25% isn't 100%. So it is still occasionally.

[frigid pendant]

i mean ik

but it does make crit more decent than before

[dull gate]

Raising base damage also raises the floor with that ceiling, so both go up.

I think the best way to say it is: ATK% is on 2nd floor. Crit% is on 1st floor trying to reach 2nd or 3rd floor occasionally.

[frigid pendant]

well yeah i agree attack is still better cause its not rng based

[odd osprey]

OL ATK rolls don't increase base damage

They increase final

[scenic apex]

Much better reroll

[solemn pawn]

Holy

More than lucky

[frigid pendant]

[brisk field]

meanwhile my doro for this raid after eating dozens of rocks:

all she's got is ammo

and I still gotta reload once bc I run resil due to ele lines

[scenic apex]

Much better, but I'll have to cope with this without an atk slot

[frigid pendant]

why not run bastion?

[brisk field]

my bastion is lvl 9, resil is 15

[grave shadow]

stop bricking in pvp

[serene notch]

I got the crown brainrot and benched bastion

Just put your mg with crown and maids

Or cope with xlud burst

Easy

[frigid pendant]

bruh

13 and 13 is better than 9 and 15 wtf

[brisk field]

I barely use bastion, no need

[frigid pendant]

I always use bastion

my bastion is higher than my res

tho thats mainly due to the fact I get a fuck ton of them from raid drops

[grave shadow]

barely uses bastion but also can't use bastion cause level 9 vs 15

that's some self sabotage right there

[brisk field]

it lets me save batteries

why would I prioritize lvl 15 2 pve cubes that have high overlap

when picking the better one is miles more efficient

[serene notch]

Skipping bastion cucks your MG if you can't give them a reload speed buffer

But there's already 2 instant reload jutsu teams so it's probably not too bad

Someone like SBS might be an issue if you don't have enough ammo to avoid reloading in burst without bastion but you can just put her with maids and also never reload

[open fable]

sbs still reloads on auto

even with 110% reload speed

it just takes a few frames

it's unlike regular sniper/rl

[brisk field]

my sbs has enough ammo lines to not reload on resil

but like just barely

iirc I tested bastion vs resil on ele adv on some mgs without reload speed buffers a few raids back

resil won out due to ele

[chilly idol]

I dont agree tho

Cubes also give raw stats and ele

[hexed trail]

investment guide like elegg's?

[frigid pendant]

its like a 2% ele loss on res and maybe 600-1k attack vs gaining however much it is on bastion

also like… sg team always bricked

[chilly idol]

i take that loss ig, but when i was 11 bast and 13 resil i also did this

resil alrdy won

why tf would i bast to 13 when i could improve resil to 15??

better to up the ceiling then up the floor ig

[agile estuary]

15/15 is the way

[open fable]

yea, just finally 15'd my bastion today so I can up pvp cubes in peace

[frigid pendant]

i mean im just surprised you cant do both

i have bastion 14 and res 13

i could get bastion to 15 and res to 14 rn if i wanted

[chilly idol]

coz im saving for resil 20

[frigid pendant]

tbf thats why i havent leveled either

im also saving for level 20 cubes

[chilly idol]

[frigid pendant]

i get hella lucky on bastion drops tho

so maybe ill get it before 20 releases since itll be like a year or 2

[chilly idol]

lucky dog

[frigid pendant]

i have like 14 bastion batteries i think

and i didnt even buy bastion to 14 i got it 3 raids ago from drops after buying 50

[chilly idol]

[frigid pendant]

my res on the other hand is in a ditch at 13 but i dont bother leveling it cause 14 kinda useless

[chilly idol]

yea 12 and 14 are dead lvl iirc

[frigid pendant]

14 is just more base stats

so basically useless

i might push bastion up to 15 by next raid ill see

extra batteries still drop from raids right

ill wait for cube update next patch then and see if its worth bumping it up or not

distributed dmg or sustained dmg cube would go crazy

[serene notch]

If they add that and it activates bready I'm gonna cum

[chilly idol]

only if u can do it under 50sec

[serene notch]

I can do it if she's fat enough

[chilly idol]

[frigid pendant]

it should, just like hit rate cube activates modernia

[serene notch]

It would save her so hard

[frigid pendant]

oh damn shes cucked tho cause modernia is “in hit rate status” meanwhile bready is “gaining the buff”

joever

so she would run out of the buff

it would buff her dmg in her current teams ig cause bastion and res dont really help her

but watch it be lower than the pierce cube buff

[marsh moon]

I actually tested on gluttony before on fire trio mod team, and I ended up doing more damage with bastion 13 than with res 15 (just a minmax difference tho), I think it mostly depends on whether the boss has a lot of jumps or interruptions for it to make effect

iirc the difference between bastion and resilience depending on your ammo is around 600-1000 ammo spent (mg), idt an extra 2% ED will really make up for that even tho the diff is not that high

[odd osprey]

My S Doro actually dealt more damage this raid using level 13 resilience over level 12 Bastion

Not only element damage, but also that my max ammo was unfortunately the right amount to put her at like 11-13 shots at the beginning of burst every time with bastion

Meanwhile with Resilience, I could get her to reload before her burst

[chilly idol]

ofc not the diff is sooo small

[odd osprey]

Only managed to get 140% max ammo

[chilly idol]

legit error margin small so i will take any loss by just going resil 15 save for resil 20

then with leftover lvl bast from 11 to 15

[odd osprey]

Don't worry, element damage cube coming next month

[chilly idol]

[soft basalt]

Omni Cube, get all cubes to level 20 to combine into a lvl 1 Omni Cube which has all cubes' unique effects

First player to possess one will appear in a few more years

[odd osprey]

Available in Nikke 2™

[kind horizon]

No gold mileage

1% standard

.07% pilgrims rate up

Banner length 7 days

no standard banner addition

Nikke 2

[odd osprey]

Nah, go the Uma Musume route and do 0.5% rate up

[kind horizon]

You’re hired

[uncut pasture]

Imagine if they decide to change mileage and make these available for a limited period

[serene notch]

Limited mileage

We believe that being able to purchase Limited, Overspec and Pilgrim units with Gold Mileage Tickets detracts from their special status in the story. This is why, starting next patch, we will be introducing Limited and Pilgrim/Overspec Mileage Tickets.

[kind horizon]

That’s some infinity nikki type shit

[graceful folio]

Should I reroll the line of Doro? Which pieces should I do that. And should I reroll the stat? which one should I priority

[supple thistle]

Its perfect roll. Just only value left.
First Torso
Second helmet
Third boot or arm.

U want elem 19%+
Atk 9%+
Ammo 64%+

At least thats how i handle it

[chilly idol]

Ur arms ele value is alrdy very high, only 4% chance u will see improvement

[frigid pendant]

reroll torso first then boots, helmet last dont bother touching arms

actually only reroll torso and helmet, other 2 arent worth it

[graceful folio]

reroll value all stat ?

or just some of it

[chilly idol]

for helm and body all stats

aim for ele 20+

[frigid pendant]

all values

reroll till attack/ele is above tier 11

if you get a blue or black line perma lock it and continue

higher ele is more important than higher attack and the ratio is 1% attack = 2% ele

so if you drop 3% attack but gain 10% ele its worth it

[terse sand]

blabla app still got it

They only remove it in web version?

[grave shadow]

Nah works for me on firefox

[frigid pendant]

they readded it recently

apparently it was a bug

[serene notch]

Yeah it just happened to disappear for the duration of the banner that's most likely to bait people who don't know the value of dupes into pulling

[frigid pendant]

what… banner

its been fixed for over a week

🤡

[serene notch]

who pulls new characters like a week after the banner starts

we must gamble day 1

[frigid pendant]

if you’re judging your pulls frame one based off a user tool for dupes i think you have bigger issues

[chilly idol]

Bugged af, if i sync up 1 lvl i drop like 30k cp

[kind horizon]

Yep

If I increase core I lose cp

[magic breach]

Anyone test doro vs Soda with a no core boss?

[lapis ravine]

You trust Nikke?

[whole isle]

Wanted to ask, but should I get dupes for Dorothy? She's currently my best unit (Somehow, even topping an Alice with better gear)

[fair gull]

if you have 1k+ gold mileage go for it

otherwise nah

save it for anni

[soft basalt]

0LB is enough for you to enjoy her advantages until you eventually replace her in the distant future. You don't miss out on anything important by only using her as 0LB

Her biggest downside is as a seasonal limited, you can't hope for additional copies of her through luck/rng after her banner ends

But that's bait because she's not good enough to be scared of missing out on getting her dupes

[odd osprey]

However, if you have 3k+ mileage, she's the best unit in the game to C7 with mileage cuz you can't get spooked

[scenic apex]

18 rocks later, finally got ele

[soft basalt]

Final day before year long regret (or smugness)

[frigid pendant]

hard lock on the attack…

[chilly idol]

Have 2 peices like that on doro

Legit thinking just dumping line 2 atk

Costing me way too much already

[soft basalt]

Yeah, careful with rock sinkholes

I walked away from my SDoro OLs after a point and resisted trying to do anything more to fix OLs

Because I just knew it was going to eat three times more rocks if I kept going EVIL

[frigid pendant]

im just saying more so why hard lock a not blue/black line

but yeah i wouldnt personally be rerolling so hard on doro until i see absolute kits

been saving rocks so I can give them each like… 10 rocks

dont wanna go back to 0

[lapis ravine]

SR gone already

[open fable]

water weak tyrant for UR, still worth

[serene notch]

Brutal cope

[scenic apex]

Better to have another water dps at my disposal

[odd osprey]

Not actually cope. Neve was a strong F2P unit for SI Chatterbox due to pierce (put at side), so Doro should do dirty things to him

[novel apex]

So far i spent god knows how many rocks trying to get ele damage on boots 20% + and still 19% is the best in like 40 rocks 🙁

At least Emma/Eunwha are supporters so hopefully don't need much more then 1 rock to OL each bit of gear smh

[chilly idol]

roll ele on head?

[frigid pendant]

eunhwa is dps lmao

emma doesnt need rolls, just ols for base attack

[novel apex]

Yeah i saw her kit today.. atleast Eunwha is a week away

[jade elm]

is she 1%? i just use ticket instead?

[chilly idol]

🫃

[kind horizon]

Nah dawg if you send me 1000 gold mileage I can sneak you 1 copy

I’m a scalper now

[cosmic viper]

Yes

[chilly idol]

Alrdy powercrept, refund pls