[Dorothy: Serendipity] New Unit Megathread

[golden nimbus]

I like how her three piercing shots sound different.

[clear compass]

Replace with volume

[digital palm]

Replacing Bsoda on Tove's team also means you have a 100% up time of tove's burst buffs

Main issue with this team is healing, which will likely be the main issue the team will have for Solo raid

[lapis ravine]

What is pierce range exactly

[cosmic viper]

Basically increases the bullet size

Imagine it like that

So like usually you'd hit one guy

But with the pierce range increase u can hit 2 guys now who were side by side

[deft dagger]

Thank you Snake

You're the captain

[pearl saddle]

My brain isn't braining with this game

[deft dagger]

[kind horizon]

download more ram

[pearl saddle]

How does one do that on mobile fr😭

[kind horizon]

let tove build a fire with it

[pearl saddle]

Nah im giving it to elegg

Free boom game

[lapis ravine]

U cant even do it on pc

[grave shadow]

To add to this here's some other stats people don't realize:
SG(no CDR) vs CDR
9 vs 14 full bursts

on SG comp
10s buffs have 50% uptime
15s buffs have 75% uptime
has 45/180 secs spent outside of full burst

on CDR comp
10s buffs have 76.9% uptime
15s buffs have 115% uptime
has 42/180 secs spent outside of full burst

-# only considering buffs that activate on burst or full burst conditions

[pearl saddle]

Ya can atleast upgrade ur pc to get more
With mobile ya just gotta get a new phone fr

[lapis ravine]

Phone powercreep is insane

Cus its basically low level pc

It gets outdated fast

And also planned obsolescence by Apple/Samsung

They do that shit btw

Dont do software upgrades if nothing breaks - programmers

[silk ruin]

Security updates tho

[kind horizon]

Yes updates for ||the manufacturers bank acc's financial|| security

[ocean ermine]

Good enough?

[grave shadow]

just need ele on the helmet and I think you're set

unless you feel like chasing for 4 atk as well

[ocean ermine]

thanks, i don't think i have enough rocks for more atk line

[grave shadow]

yeah it's expensive to do

[strong walrus]

I’m not sure why tbh. All I did was ask a question after noticing this and was met with hostility. I’ll take my dumb questions elsewhere

[rotund geode]

those comparisons were great i don't care if the comps aren't exactly to people's liking

[agile estuary]

its what makes rh burst and nihil hit more things

[deep sparrow]

SO is Dorothy any good?

[deft glen]

got all my lines, just gotta reroll some stats to get 90% ele, 40% atk, 200% ammo

[brave hare]

does anybody have 0 ammo

can you test if with bastion tia naga and reloading at the end of bsoda burst

if you only have to reload once

or twice

[fair gull]

I have no OL

I can test in a bit

doing towers

[brave hare]

tyty i think she gains as at burst 10

[fair gull]

oh uh do I have to upgrade her skills?

[brave hare]

i think so for a good test. 7 prob fine maybe like 1-2 shots difference

[fair gull]

oh yeah attack speed I forgot

in that case I'll let somebody else test it sry

I guess I can start investing her rn

let me restart game

[fair gull]

only once

let me get a clean vid where the boss doesnt jump

xd

[brave hare]

ok tyty

prob gna get rid of my ammo line for ele

dont rly care too much for water not trying to spend too many rocks but also not trying to brick my account not having her acceptable

[fair gull]

here

losing a little bit at the end

lmk if you wanna see anything else before I ol her

feeling lucky

[brave hare]

na ur good tyty

prob good with 0 ammo with noir

[fair gull]

whats the 12/12 build for dorothy?

3 ammo 1 hit rate

or 4 ammo

[fair gull]

💀

[brave hare]

3 ammo

[half halo]

Lucky now?

Famous quote of all gamba addicts

[open fable]

https://tenor.com/view/rev-up-those-fryers-gif-20383865

same energy

[swift beacon]

Is this worth MLBing

[odd osprey]

If you like spending mileage, yes

[swift beacon]

i just hate her burst animation like wtf

Hopefully she’s an all around so that i can use her everytime

[serene notch]

NTR

[swift beacon]

That’s the most realistic butt I’ve ever seen in nikke

[white edge]

after this event, we will have to wait 6 months for another good butt

they always do this, buff butt on major events

[swift beacon]

Hopefully 🙏🏻 and new unit not gatcha

[ruby imp]

I thought your pfp was Heat Abnormal

[kind horizon]

her lobby is the only thing that kept me from spending mileage to mlb

thank you schizo doro

[swift beacon]

Who was that other girl in her mlb

[kind horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

play overzone

[swift beacon]

it should’ve been like mihara overspec tho, focus on the boobs

[kind horizon]

mihara only got that lobby going for her

gotta give a 1% unit something

[deft dagger]

[bitter isle]

Meta doro

[swift beacon]

she good even on mirro container? isnt it for electro

[kind horizon]

hold your horses his doro is core max

[half fossil]

is his Cindy too? then its a fair game

[open fable]

his doro is also crazy neutral (52% atk OL or sth)

[rotund geode]

and still less cp than cindy

[open fable]

element lines give the most cp so his doro don’t have a lot

[chilly idol]

im really considering coz of that butt

[bitter isle]

I would mlb if it removed her dress or something. No reason to bother for mlb lobby and 6% attack increase

[swift beacon]

sadly his animations on full burst dont contain any butt or boobs

[kind horizon]

you want schizo lobby that bad?

[open fable]

you mlb her because if you don't, you can't do it for at least 1 whole year

good lobbies are plenty when there's 160+ units and tons of event lobby cg's to choose from

[kind horizon]

the only limited i regret not being able to mlb is summer mary

[open fable]

with only 5 slots

[kind horizon]

imagine having more than 5 lobby slots

the misery

the pain

[open fable]

she's also now the gold standard of water dps

while mlb vs lb0 is +6% only, that +6% can mean a lot especially if you have good lines down the road

it's a real bummer that the 1% limited leaves a bad aftertaste

[kind horizon]

my non limited pilgrims (yes have to make that distinction now) still don't have good lines hhahahhaa

[open fable]

everyone should have good lines on meta hypercarries like rapi/cindy/sbs at least

and now sdoro

[kind horizon]

i have good lines, just some blank spots too

sdoro

eh

might as well start saving rocks for whatever's coming after elegg

[open fable]

you save for 3rd anniv, which will have 3 1%

[kind horizon]

at one point we gotta normalize skipping pilgrims/overspec, that'll be it

[open fable]

su will make sure they're unskippable, but at that point might as well quit the game and give su the bird

[kind horizon]

yep

[lapis ravine]

@agile estuary are u alive

[agile estuary]

no

wat need

[cosmic viper]

why is

pierce radius

kinda ass

[open fable]

it's a niche thing, but when you get the chance to use that niche it feels good

[fair gull]

@midnight spire

[midnight spire]

@fair gull

[soft basalt]

[chilly idol]

[uncut pasture]

[steel sand]

How good is doro ok her own? No shotgun team

Idk of build her rn or wait until I have shotgun team

I'm still not into raids I'm barely finishing my campaign , interception and tower teams

[frigid pendant]

she is good but if you dont have core units done then focus on them

[steel sand]

So, she needs shotgun team working first

Or by core units you mean in general

?

[frigid pendant]

in general

she can work without the sg team

[cosmic viper]

Sg team makes her one of the best

In Other teams she is still good

[soft basalt]

I'm still shaky on where to position her relative to others, but the minimum is she's as good as Winter Ludmilla, though it doesn't seem like Summer Doro should ever be considered for offbursting

Still, it's a unit that seems like a heck lot more stable to invest in than say Eve

Does Summer Doro outtier Raven?

[half halo]

[echo ocean]

what is the best shotgun team with s dorothy and t tove? duo bunny? b soda? t drake?

[half halo]

highly depended on boss

if it deals too much dmg, you need Tia/Naga or Blanc/Noir to answer

boss has core = Tia/Naga must, else just Blanc/Noir for more shooting time (lower offensive buff btw)

if it's UR and you have high sync (500+), just run Leona + DrakeT

[orchid dagger]

next is kraken, kraken has core (hidden without pierce, which sdoro has)

[echo ocean]

thanks, but that still left 1 more slot to be filled. would it better if I fill it with b soda or t drake?

[half halo]

B Soda

[ebon shadow]

Kraken is also a boss that can be 4 manned so

[verbal topaz]

Do we 10/10/10?

[open fable]

yes

[half halo]

1010F NA

[lapis ravine]

Shes quite good

[half halo]

no this is meta

fml

rolled it on my friend acc

while mine eats 30 rocks already

[uncut pasture]

[white edge]

How many % of minimum ammo I need?

I know 3 lines

but like, how many %?

[frigid pendant]

iirc a good amount is 180%ish

[white edge]

Change or keep? above 180% if change

[frigid pendant]

id probably keep the attack, do you not have other gear thats worse off to reroll on?

[white edge]

all have ele or atk or both

Stupidity is expensive to reroll

[frigid pendant]

the rest are 9/12?

[white edge]

yeah, like that

[frigid pendant]

just keep the attack then

its better to reroll for higher ammo stats

imo

[white edge]

Hmm, I have 81% and 64%

doesn't count this ammo roll

[frigid pendant]

oh you only have 2 ammo?

[white edge]

yeah

this one is the 3rd, if i take it

[frigid pendant]

so if you reroll this its 4 ele 3 attack 3 ammo?

[white edge]

2 atk

[frigid pendant]

hm

[white edge]

I mainly use her for raids

[frigid pendant]

the ammo is probably better since i dont think 9% attack beats out 4 more bullets per mag

[white edge]

campaign already have a solid team

[frigid pendant]

especially cause she has so much attack already

i can math it rq

whats the other attack on her

[half halo]

she shoots 3.0 AS over 10 15s

so 30 ~ 45 shots

[frigid pendant]

if we count just this attack its 172.36/163.36 which is only a 5% attack increase in FB

[half halo]

[frigid pendant]

yeah id argue the ammo is much better

[half halo]

bastion = 24 on no Soda
34 on Soda

[frigid pendant]

you need 280% max ammo?

wait thats not counting tove

[half halo]

24 = 10 + 10 + 4 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 33 shot.

well just minus tove ammo

-6

[frigid pendant]

so she needs 211% max ammo

[half halo]

so 18 with Tove for 10s

[frigid pendant]

not counting bastion

[half halo]

34 = 10 + 3 + 10 + 3 + 10 + 3 + 4 + 3 = 46

[frigid pendant]

gotcha

[half halo]

with Tove, make it 28

211% with Tove + Bastion = never reload

[frigid pendant]

so you'd always reload outside of FB?

[half halo]

well you would need to reload before FB

[frigid pendant]

[terse sand]

how to clear qte?

[twilit tusk]

so we aiming for atk, ele, ammo then crit?

[kind horizon]

we aiming for rocks

[frigid pendant]

4x ele attack ammo

prio is 1x ammo then everything else

[half halo]

shoot it

[terse sand]

i cant clear qte during helm burst

[half halo]

then use 2nd strongest water DPS

Rapi

[swift beacon]

still mlb?

[uncut pasture]

Yeah don't trust those ranks

She's the strongest water unit by far

[bitter isle]

So they're telling me I shouldn't mlb her but I can hmmmmmmm

[rotund geode]

what a wall of text

do you need dupes? answer: what for?

2% more stats who gives a fuck get dupes if you want to be the very best in soloraid otherwise what are you doing

[swift beacon]

sooo would it be wiser to say since rapipi is SSS on all aspect except for PVP, that’s the only time were we can or ADVISE to MLB / go for dupes??

[rotund geode]

no

why would you get dupes for 1 character

[kind horizon]

rapi is good enough to warrant dupe hunting if you're overflowing with gold mileage

but that was back then

now? idk lol

things are grim

[swift beacon]

thanksss snek!! am also confused about the logic of buying 1% pilgrim rather than pulling

[kind horizon]

cuz it's highly likely you won't even get her in 200 pulls so just save gems for 2% characters

[swift beacon]

I regret that time cuz i all went out mlb cindy and my mind was like 600 tix for mlb rapi is kinda expensive

[kind horizon]

oof

[swift beacon]

I think i got lucky like 30 pulls i got doro so like i just save 170 pulls by lucky

[kind horizon]

yes it's called gambling

advice is to not engage in this kind of retarded gambling

and save gems for 2%

you do what you want in the end

[swift beacon]

ahhh this is where i kinda save gems, like when normal banner like arcana, d etc i just save

Is sanis still worth mlb thov

[kind horizon]

lol

[swift beacon]

I think she’s like the very useful niche, like even after 2 years summer she is still relevant and stood the time

hopefully dori is like that

[grave shadow]

The best way to look at the dupe angle is essentially:
Can you afford to burn gems/gold mileage for the dupes?
Do you still have resources to guarantee another unit after the current banners?
If not are you okay with completely missing out on said new unit

It is always best to get 1 copy no matter what if said unit is recommended or meta

but you never have to get dupes to make them work unless we're strictly talking about maldy strats that require certain thresholds to run without relying on healers/defensive support (not that this situation comes up often anyways)

[cosmic viper]

Dupes are always cosmetic unless the unit has treasure

The number of competitive minds here is pretty low

[uncut pasture]

[swift beacon]

So nikke is still not having this time yet? I’m kinda traumatized of how for example RAIDEN is sooooo OP but u need her at C2 to be fully utilized

[grave shadow]

that's a genshin/mihoyo problem

[subtle heart]

nikke is different, mlb only gives a minor stat boost

[grave shadow]

dupes in every other game has never affected gameplay directly beyond more damage/stats

[subtle heart]

in nikke the only time dupes (2lb) makes a significant change is treasure as stated by snake, and even that shouldnt be too hard to get if you save your silver mileage tickets

[uncut pasture]

MLB for lobby

[swift beacon]

Ooohhhh this is new to meeee can u point where snek said that onee

[subtle heart]

right here lol

[swift beacon]

The only treasure i have is like helm since her output is like beyond comparison

[cosmic viper]

For reference, I always go for lb0 on any new unit as f2p

And I'm a competitive player in a top 10 level union

[swift beacon]

Ahhh okay thanks hahahaha sorry my bad discord is laggy in my end and msgs are disappearing

[uncut pasture]

Top 12*

[cosmic viper]

Top 10 level

Top 1 soon

[ruby imp]

Nvm

[uncut pasture]

for top 1 we need Sdoro core 7

[cosmic viper]

Damn he deleted

[grave shadow]

for reference snake is always out of gems

[cosmic viper]

I have like 40k rn

[ruby imp]

I forgot you were Global

[cosmic viper]

Is fine

Not like global is a lot better

[subtle heart]

goodluck with lb0

[uncut pasture]

global best server

[uncut pasture]

You don't need dupes, you need a whale C7 who can hit water weak

[grave shadow]

need a sync 900 whale

[uncut pasture]

[swift beacon]

Did they release elegg skill? Hopefully doro and elegg will be good teammates synergies

[uncut pasture]

#1392825966572867665 message

[swift beacon]

Thanksss krub

[kind horizon]

Elegg gonna suck em dry

https://tenor.com/view/line-sticker-sticker-laughing-laugh-lol-gif-26198702

[digital palm]

"But if you close your eyes, does it almost feel like nothing changed at all"

[half halo]

I see fire

inside your comment

[soft basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/saitama-one-punch-man-gif-22096414

[frigid pendant]

i get hella pissed when that happens

[swift beacon]

Is there a nikke that is considered to be worth the dupes? Like it increases attk exponentially

[soft basalt]

None. Not even SDoro.

The actual worth comes from competing with fellow humans, if you’re trying to defeat their scores or beat their pvp teams.

So if you’re concerned about competing, you’d look at what dupes they get, and that’s your standard

I think I’ve seen 0lb compete fine for 3%, with mlbs being the next level up, then there are the all-mcb whales

I’m not sure what it’s like for union raids, but since it’s synchro based more than anything, even a 0lb whale that focuses on synchro level will whip the butt of an all-mcb that doesn’t have high synchro

There’s also rocks luck and rocks wallet for OLs

The numerous factors make it redundant to ask if dupes are worth it, the dupes alone are unable to give you the power to compete or win

[agile estuary]

lets say ur an rng and skill god so u take top score -24%

ur well within top 50

last time top score was like 36b? so lb0 across every unit u could be somewhere around 26-27 asuming exact same rolls + consoles ect and no hp threshold to survive the boss which becomes hyper specific to boss

[soft basalt]

That’s partly why I mentioned he should look at what dupes his target competitors get

Sometimes the higher hp and def do enable crazier dps aggression, sometimes influencing comp viability

[odd osprey]

Dupes get more powerful the higher the sync level, so longterm they are great for UR, and they're vital if you're going for top SR ranks

At the same time, if you have to ask whether MLB is worth, it's safe to assume you're not competing for top ranks

Dupes for casual/F2P should only be for waifu value imo unless a unit is truly SSS tier (atm, only Rapi and Crown qualify by my standards)

[rotund geode]

i still wouldn't dupe crown or rapi as a casual

over time you can blue cp story and all their power amounts to nothing

[half halo]

look at those noobs above

if you chase dupes

max core Electric team so you can run healer less

[odd osprey]

Rapi being effectively dual element means that power makes twice the difference of any other DPS in raid content

But yeah, I wouldn't suggest it, either. Just saying that's the only time I feel it's justified for meta reasons

Most DPS units are ultimately going to be used only 20% of the time

Rapi will be used 40% of the time as a DPS and 60% of the rest as a B1

Supports will get knocked out by natural powercreep, and, aside from Gatrix' valid mention of Rouge, usually won't get enough of a power spike to be worthwhile

[rotund geode]

if you say 'meta reasons' then i say core max everything

core max has every advantage over lb0

[odd osprey]

That's not feasible for 99.9% of players

Nor practical

Can get in top 50 without C7ing everything

[rotund geode]

the thing i was replying to was for a casual player and what are casuals going to do?

go from 8,45% to 8,34% with a few dupes on rapi? doesn't matter

[odd osprey]

Makes more difference than getting dupes on Trony

That's my point

Unless waifu, the only time to dupe would be someone wanting to take advantage of gamebreaking units

Even casuals may consider that (look at Uma Musume and how people are rerolling for Kitasan Black even if F2P)

Just cuz someone's casual doesn't mean they'll 100% ignore meta

If ignoring meta entirely, just skip all units except waifu

Don't even grab a copy

[uncut pasture]

[odd osprey]

That's what I do on most gacha games

[uncut pasture]

wait I didn't read what's happening here

I just wanted to send the emote

[odd osprey]

Anyway, my personal suggestion for dupes would be:

Horny? One copy for butt jiggle.
Pinne OTP? MLB for burst animation.
Top 30% casual? Skip
Top 10%-3% (new player or casual vet)? One copy.
Top 3%? One copy if generalist, MLB+ if aspiring water god.
Top 200? You should know the answer yourself

[kind horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1276539854057898059/1388042188398657597/MikaDance2.gif

[serene notch]

Dupes are like 2% stats each and while it's usually more than 2% damage because how how high defense works it's still not that much unless you C7 something

Dupes are a scam and if you feel the need to ask if it's worth it, you probably can't pull enough dupes for it to really impact your rank

Only pull for dupes with your dick if the lobby is hot

[odd osprey]

Basically that

[kind horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265128506950422709/1357353974004453587/4x.avif

That’s the way

Reason why I don’t regret mlb eve

[odd osprey]

I have several union mates who have struggled this year with banners cuz they emptied out mileage due to pressure to MLB collab units

[kind horizon]

But have so many concerns with mlb doro

[kind horizon]

Wait till they hear there’s another collab soon

[odd osprey]

Meanwhile if they'd saved mileage and only gotten one copy, they'd have over 1000 mileage still

[serene notch]

Dupes stats are a pretty nice bonus if you waifu someone because even trash units like bready get significantly better if you whel for like +10% damage from MLB

[odd osprey]

Imagine calling Bready trash when Brid and S Neon exist

[chilly idol]

first few dups are also a bit more than 2% coz of bond lvls, right

[serene notch]

I pulled SNeon on rerun to goon to her hand

I wanted to use her in coop as a joke but now you have to actually try in coop

[odd osprey]

Just have a union where four others can carry so you can screw around

We let a union mate basically always use Elegg cuz we can get top 10% without Crown

S Doro may make water-weak co-op scores actually high

Maybe can't just use double Rapi Helm anymore

[serene notch]

Elegg has a distributed damage buff so you can run triple pig team

Need to find pigs for b1 and the flex slot tho

[swift beacon]

welp thanks for this

[open fable]

honestly whether dupes is worth it or not depends on your budget

[agile estuary]

all the dupes are worth more than 2%

because lb 1-3 has bond level flat stats (this % to character value scales since theyre flat, eg co-op cares alot more than sr than lvl 900 ur)

core include lb3 + bond stats in their 2% so theyre taking 2% of 1.08x%-1.09x%

[ebon shadow]

iirc, core levels don't include bond stats in their bonuses, but I might be wrong on that
I know for certain that core levels scale the bonuses from recycling room

[serene notch]

if you need to pull up all this dupe lore and what is or isn't included in all core levels, you probably shouldn't get dupes just for the stats

[agile estuary]

i was told they did

[ebon shadow]

I would have to retest to confirm, the console bonuses being affected by core levels I'm 100% on since that's hugely relevant in the current co-op meta

I know I tested bond level stats, and I vaguely recall it not being affected, but since I'd always just max bond a unit that's meta it's not been something I've had to actively recall since I tested it like 1.5 years ago

[rotund geode]

if a dupe gave 5% more stats i would still laugh at it

sure x10 it is significant but i'm not pulling an entire copy for marginal gains

[novel apex]

gonna mlb/dupe for elegg.. need to farm some gold tickets after this unexpected 1% limited 😡

[frigid pendant]

my union gets top 100 every time so its a bit less chill with this but its surprising that we’re kinda lax and can still get high scores

[terse sand]

is it really 2%/dupe though? i got this old ss from before they disable it in blabla, lb0 > max core only 18.5% atk gap

[open fable]

doll+flat OL stats?

[agile estuary]

theres more to it like dolls/equipment stats right?

but from base it should be 2%+extra (as mentioned above bond for getting lb and other things that dip into core)

[terse sand]

blabla not count stat from doll iirc, atleast at that time, cuz my cp was lower than ingame

[agile estuary]

which group is doll

[fair gull]

Group B

[frigid pendant]

wait why did they remove the sliders

those were nice

[serene notch]

because people found out how small dupes are and stopped pulling them

[fair gull]

its the 3D elements

[serene notch]

they made the sliders 3D?

[half halo]

they make it unable to slide anymore

[frigid pendant]

[half halo]

we could have it allllll
But they slided it in the deeeppppp

https://tenor.com/view/adele-rolling-we-could-have-had-it-all-gif-7179244

[grave shadow]

it's a joke about ceo saying 3D to 2D interactions causing bugs and issues

[lapis ravine]

Top 100 doesnt need any dupe.

Unless ure from Japan

That one ur fault for choosing Japan

NA also doesn't need but very maldy

Easy in SEA/Global

[patent furnace]

chat? yes? c7

already mlb

[chilly idol]

[patent furnace]

220+free pulls from those pull

i never c7 any pilgrim but limited got me fomoing

i usually c1 pilgrim max

[frigid pendant]

unless shes your waifu no

mlb is more than plenty

[digital palm]

If you have a deep pocket for what's coming next then yeah

[frigid pendant]

and 3rd anni will probably have more universally broken units

[patent furnace]

yeah im not worry about $

[digital palm]

That's what I did with Summer Anis and I cannot wait to C7 Overspec anis

[chilly idol]

midoro

what to do?

invest in doro or just drop her and keep pumping rocks into s.eggs?

[rotund geode]

remove gear from xlud and put on sdoro seems to be the play here

[patent furnace]

17% ele

[mystic cipher]

should I pull for dupes or nah?

[rotund geode]

you should c7 her it's the only way to be number 1 in soloraid

[chilly idol]

i know it is 17% ele, that is why i asked

[frigid pendant]

just make doro have 50/20 with 2 ammo and she should perform better

you also have to keep in mind range is so much free fodder for xlud

[chilly idol]

how much % ammo ? she alrdy have 3 lines...

[frigid pendant]

no like your ammo is fine

but she needs like 2x ele and 2x attack

[chilly idol]

need sr hall or something to have some good testing ground

[frigid pendant]

then she should be better than helm

[chilly idol]

why atk tho, isnt 4x ele better than 2 ele 2 atk?

she alrdy buffs her atk by a lot

[frigid pendant]

i mean yeah

i just say that to be an even spread

4x ele def better but might end up being more rocks than 2x ele 2x attack

just depends on how the luck goes

you have a lot of water investment so id say take the L and unbrick her

[chilly idol]

uuuh, then it is better to let her be bricked tho?

[frigid pendant]

no cause shes on a completely diff team from the others

so you’d see noticeable gain from fixing her

[chilly idol]

ooh u mean drop her to sg team

[frigid pendant]

well yeah thats how she’s normally going to be run

[chilly idol]

yea, i just wanted her in water team but she kinda sucks in there for me

[frigid pendant]

i still think over team dmg will be much higher with doro on sg and the water dps with crown than forcing doro in

now when shes invested she’ll still be better than xlud

but itll probably be a while till you see that

cause again if you ignore the bias your xlud is probably like 20-30% better

not as big as what’s shown here

[chilly idol]

well those 3 were full auto

[frigid pendant]

ik but xlud gets stupid amounts of dmg with perma core

having better base OLs also means there’s more dmg for elegg to buff

vs doro

[uncut pasture]

Then why doubt go ahead

I wanna see that C7 sdoro

[kind horizon]

[digital palm]

I would C7 if I had deeper pockets

[hardy timber]

Hi what her skill priority

[odd osprey]

@lapis ravine Unless you have a source, I'm doubting you on that

[deft dagger]

shit

[odd osprey]

In the first place, an the likelihood someone could get to a power level sufficient for top 100 without ever getting dupes is absurdly low

[deft dagger]

[odd osprey]

bait

Oh, you were using an expletive because you forgot to sync. Thought you were calling her bad

[deft dagger]

wrong thread LOL

[lapis ravine]

Me

[jagged horizon]

Just the usual case 777 then 101010

[odd osprey]

Literally all of your units are LB0?

You get top 100 with no treasures?

[odd osprey]

S1 is buffs, S2 is damage. Burst is lowest priority if you need to conserve since she's mainly off-burst

[hardy timber]

Ohhh

Dam I went and lvl her burst first

[half halo]

[half halo]

read the thread again

[kind horizon]

this doro thread not elegg fyi

[serene notch]

i play doro off burst

let my bready and selegg burst instead

[hardy timber]

Oh wait this message is elegg 💔

[hardy timber]

I thought selegg burst is better if it let it collect ghost first

13*

[serene notch]

it is but i wanna use her as a regular DPS

reading can't stop me

[hardy timber]

Fair

[serene notch]

i wish we had a real testing mode

firing range fucking sucks

[slate moth]

brother we barely have a functioning game

[serene notch]

here's off burst doro if you're curious

it's uh

not good

selegg be like mihara 2

[hardy timber]

Lol

[serene notch]

the strongest doro bready team is probably crown mmast

because crown mmast

also nobody can say doro is jobbing to bready because she doesn't have enough ammo anymore because she has infinite ammo now

Doro comfirmed bready tier

[lapis ravine]

No

Not all

But you dont need MLB all

Actually

To be more honest

It was easier back then before they start doing this double 1%

U can skip some units and get copies for the good ones

Like XLud, etc

But now not worth except carry DPS

Altho rn that acc has 510k gems and havent been injected with $5/monthly anymore, and casual so top 200 at most.

[odd osprey]

Oops, I blame Shinonono S Doro is 10/10/10 no questions

[odd osprey]

Solo Raid Museum

[rotund geode]

i hear great stories about how f2p lb0 can do wonderful things in raid

then i look in the ranks and they can't be found

[bitter isle]

There are too many heavy spenders

[molten hatch]

Its all ols

[hidden jasper]

you can always find me on global

but even ftp has some pilgrims with mlb+

[rotund geode]

sure

find you where? https://enikk.app/soloraid/26

[molten hatch]

He rank 24

[rotund geode]

pretty good

most lb0 but cindy core 5 is sus

[molten hatch]

Thats entirely possible for f2p considering how much lb0 is there

[hidden jasper]

1200 tickets

[molten hatch]

Actually more sus he doesnt have more lbs on bis other nikkes

[rotund geode]

gamer move

[molten hatch]

Seems low lb even for f2p

[rotund geode]

so he's cheating? time to report

[hasty steeple]

OMG LEO HI

[molten hatch]

Do i know you ?

[molten hatch]

No hes just cracked

[rotund geode]

red hood and rapi are pretty bis i'd say

[molten hatch]

His ols are supreme

https://tenor.com/view/doro-gif-1748499123257475241

[rotund geode]

he should have a good roll here and there

[hidden jasper]

yep

always top 50

rolling all elemental

[molten hatch]

Ive seen his blabla, his nikkes are scary

[rotund geode]

do you get top 50 all elements?

that's crazy

[kind horizon]

do you ignore pvp since you have so many rocks leftover for raid units

or are you just ultra lucky

[hidden jasper]

ignore pvp

[kind horizon]

ah makes sense then

[hidden jasper]

I get 2400-2700 gems and I'm satisfied

solo raid is more interesting to me

[kind horizon]

you're still in c4-10 range despite that

pretty nice

[odd osprey]

Bring Drakem Miranda, and Helm down to LB0 and he wouldn't be there

[molten hatch]

Only run r nikkes wouldnt be there too

[rotund geode]

i think it's fine if it a few silver mileage nikke have higher cores

[obsidian isle]

damn, yapper final boss is here

[molten hatch]

Who is you

[obsidian isle]

https://tenor.com/view/sybau-syfm-china-lazerdim700-gif-4816927433298118447

[open marsh]

[misty fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1124757580242223256/1124760866131300552/birbfrimahammockze.gif

[frigid pendant]

tbf its next to impossible for anyone to have all lb 0 so

[molten hatch]

Ye

All lb0 you stuck on that lvl 160 wall

[misty fog]

damn, this tsukino guy is so nice

[molten hatch]

?

Guys so whats best sdoro team ?

[rotund geode]

it is easy if you want it on purpose

but who doesn't want to improve their characters lol

[open marsh]

doro, rouge, soline, rei, poli

[bitter isle]

Siren, crown, rapi, helm

[molten hatch]

Ooooo so no tove?

[frigid pendant]

you cant rig off rates on rate up banners lmao

[rotund geode]

you can choose not to limit break

[frigid pendant]

yeah but thats just stupid

[rotund geode]

it is lol

[frigid pendant]

if its on usable units anyways

[rotund geode]

but it's not impossible

if you wanted to you could have all lb0

[frigid pendant]

if we ignore the ones to get past 160 wall yeah

but no one who chooses not to mlb is fucked

[molten hatch]

All lb0 = azz sync = what unipn would want you = no union chips = bricked cubes = byebye sr

Also no advice

[misty fog]

wdym, octo gave you the best team

[open marsh]

hidden tech

frfr

[rotund geode]

you can be in a top 10 union with a brick account just by having a few friends

[molten hatch]

You guys are trolls...

[rotund geode]

why are you saying that while trolling

[molten hatch]

[open marsh]

i gotta use tactics for our 1v1

[open marsh]

thats pretty much him already

[bitter isle]

You can always win in life if you have enough connections

[rotund geode]

i thought so lmao

[obsidian isle]

why u do the yapper like that

[molten hatch]

I just wanted to know the sdoro comp

Since i dont have tdrake or t tove and have limited resources so im trying to figure out the final team so i k how to allocate them

[open marsh]

if jiggle gets into top 10, he will qualify

[molten hatch]

Seems as though there isnt a set decided team yet

[open marsh]

[open marsh]

just dont use sdoro

[molten hatch]

Ty for this ill test it out

[obsidian isle]

but this yapper is the carry tho

[open marsh]

[bitter isle]

I mean I run this this is like overall best units team and you were asking for best team for doro so it's almost the best team for overall I would maybe change helm for mast maid depending if you need healing

[calm mirage]

How many copies do I need? I am not doing anything high end

[solid depot]

"need" is a strong word

you already answered your own question

if you're not doing anything high end then one copy is fine

[open fable]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-i-don’t-need-it-i-definitely-don’t-need-it-thirsty-gif-17101453146721253330

[grave shadow]

1

if you need more copies then whale harder

[solid depot]

is dorothy better with traditional supports like crown or should she be going with the shotgun team?

[grave shadow]

is strong even without SG comp so it works out for her

[solid depot]

well then what would be the comp for co-op

[grave shadow]

depends who you can get for 5th slot imo

and their built/unlucky ele %

[solid depot]

still siren/crown?

[grave shadow]

I'd say so?

[patent furnace]

shes only good for 5th slot?

i guess mlb it is

[grave shadow]

I don't think tove angle works out here because there's no good 15s 5th slot buffer

[grave shadow]

no you're reading out of context it's in regards to coop

[patent furnace]

no im reading correctly i think, she might not be use in coop.

[odd osprey]

She could definitely be used

Especially against Blacksmith/Chatterbox

Delicious cores

[soft basalt]

For 5th slot with Crown, probably can be used. Crown, Siren, SElegg, might be good enough burst gen speed even if the B3 bursters are two SDoros

But worth starving your wallet for, unlikely

[odd osprey]

Speaking of burst speed, where does S Doro fall within SGs?

[kind horizon]

81 rocks for this

Kill myself

[torpid widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1008297576698744833/1364070165355958272/hoshino.mp4

[chilly idol]

Only body ele line and values on some and u done

Mine 50 more rocks

[kind horizon]

Gimme 100 rocks pls

https://tenor.com/view/jinki948-firepice-seal-get-up-look-around-gif-25017322

[chilly idol]

I have 0

Im also a rock mining slave

[bitter isle]

She needs that much ammo ?!

[kind horizon]

How’d I know I just tried rolling for ele dmg and kept the ammo lines

[lapis ravine]

I mean if u use Crown it wont hurt much with fewer ammo

Like 2x + resi

But if ure not using Crown

Enjoy ammo deficiency syndrome

[kind horizon]

Can’t hurt having more boolets

[lapis ravine]

Idk what her team will be in this raid

Tia Naga or Crown Naga

If Crown Naga then it's probably Doro + QQ

Or Doro + XLud

If Tia Naga, then probably Doro + XLud for more damage taken

If Tia Naga then 3x ammo is needed

[agile estuary]

r u putting crown in sg team

[lapis ravine]

I dont think SG team is good in this raid

It has perma core

[agile estuary]

i mean sg team is basically buff doro for this raid right

[lapis ravine]

Doro is the only recent unit in game that actually scales fully on core damage

A waste not to pair with Naga

[agile estuary]

tia tove naga doro bsoda?

[lapis ravine]

Well actually XLud and QQ somewhat do too but QQ alr has core dmg and XLud has a bit of skill dmg

[agile estuary]

then u get to have standard crown xlud helm elegg

QQ stick in maids

like usual

[rotund geode]

shotgun + tia naga was already a thing so that sounds like an easy doro team

[agile estuary]

then u even have a bready to flip into maids or dot team

[lapis ravine]

I dont like it that much

[agile estuary]

i dont not like it

[lapis ravine]

Tove Doro is a bit counterintuitive

Doro wants to burst more

[odd osprey]

?

Tove isn't the problem

B Soda is

[lapis ravine]

Maybe Tove Doro Dolla is better idk

I mean if u want it

[agile estuary]

everyone wants to burst more

but her kit does work with 15s burst cycle

[odd osprey]

Tove/Crown/S Doro/X Lud/Siren

[agile estuary]

15s burst buff, on full burst steroid

[lapis ravine]

I still think Doro will either go with Crown Naga or Tia Naga idk

[rotund geode]

need a -5s b3 character for sdoro so she gets more personal bursts

[odd osprey]

Vesti

[lapis ravine]

We alr have

[agile estuary]

i mean tia tove naga is tia naga

[lapis ravine]

Arcana Isabel

[lapis ravine]

Yeah but CDR where

[agile estuary]

i think considering doro to be in team 1 over siren/crown/xlud/helm/elegg or sg team is a macro decision across the teams

[lapis ravine]

If any its Tove Crown Doro X CDR if u want to funnel.

[agile estuary]

you're shifting dps for gains outside the team while the team is ~equal

[lapis ravine]

Which is actually Doro's best funnel team

[agile estuary]

tove grave doro drake cdr

[lapis ravine]

I mean

If u have 3x max ammo

Sure

[agile estuary]

[agile estuary]

but yea i think its this for siren crown

its actually a pretty good team all 3 buff eachother

[lapis ravine]

Not using Naga means Tia Naga is forced to happen

[agile estuary]

siren with 3 mg

[lapis ravine]

Idk if thats ideal

If u do that

Who are u pairing Tia Naga with?

[agile estuary]

i have so many duos/offburst

[lapis ravine]

SG on a full core boss?

Thats a waste

[agile estuary]

how do i fit crown naga with elegg

if i dont, where do i put elegg

[lapis ravine]

[agile estuary]

who is my grave even going with tbh

[lapis ravine]

Idk

Liter Grave Doro HelmTr SElegg?

Well HelmTr is a bad choice there but whatever

[agile estuary]

like if i have
crown team 1
maids QEQ
cindy team
dot team bready?
grave team/sg team?

[lapis ravine]

If u use DoT team it will likely take Liter

[agile estuary]

if i dont dot team who cold be there

what would a grave team look like

[agile estuary]

i prob wont have both doro and helm, one of them has to be in crown team right

[lapis ravine]

I mean if u take SRos Liter team

It will be like

Liter SRos Bready something something

[agile estuary]

im not running a crown team with 1 decent dps (xlud)

itd be like xguillo

who also kinda fits in dot team

[lapis ravine]

Idk about XGuillo

Likely she will go with Maids if SBS Alice is not better

[agile estuary]

i think maids is QEQ+1

guillo can flex whereever

QEQ stole maids every water SR, from matH to BS

[lapis ravine]

Well one way or another

I dont think SG team is good in this raid

I mean the usual Tove team

[agile estuary]

i think tove team is just doro carry

[lapis ravine]

Usual*

[lapis ravine]

For neutral yes

OG SG comp is fine

[agile estuary]

it feels like a slot pressure problem to me

[lapis ravine]

Water weak I doubt

[agile estuary]

like if i could use crown with every unit i would

[lapis ravine]

Wont Tia Naga actually beat Crown team in this raid

Because of core

Idk

[agile estuary]

its also 2 slot vs 1 tho

for example a fair comparisonish is like crown elegg vs tia naga

[lapis ravine]

I think Doro will be with Crown OR Tia Naga

[agile estuary]

i dont think tia naga wins that

or crown+some buffer

[lapis ravine]

I think SElegg will go with Liter SRos/Grave

So she can eat Liter's buff

But Im not sure tbh

Crown SElegg may be the play

Something like Siren Crown Doro HelmTr Selegg

But Liter SRos Bready X SElegg is not too far fetched too. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of suitable X here.

So maybe

Maybe SElegg does with Crown

[agile estuary]

siren crown x helm selegg feels pretty good

[lapis ravine]

And u do something like Liter SRos Bready Raven Mihara

[agile estuary]

i kinda like xlud as X but doro probably works

[lapis ravine]

[agile estuary]

u can also drop srosanna and slap bready into maids with QEQ to free a slot

and run a grave team

if no dot

[lapis ravine]

Don't forget ViperTr too

[agile estuary]

does viperTR even live without crown

[lapis ravine]

Someone said Liter ViperTr SRos

[agile estuary]

i think it was shino

[lapis ravine]

[agile estuary]

but im not sure she lives without crown

her entire value is dipping crown s1 right

[lapis ravine]

Btw does this boss need Water

[agile estuary]

theres ele qtes

to be seen if we "need" to do them

im told theyre pretty long tho

[lapis ravine]

Then Elec team will eat one Water unit

Idk who

[agile estuary]

but yea i think sg team will have to either have doro or be benched

theres no other carry water

sg team without doro doesnt beat sbs alice in water

sg team with doro will clap sbs alice

[lapis ravine]

I have a feeling Rapipi Tia Naga XLud QQ will be a thing.

For peasants, that opens up SBS Alice on Maid comp

Whales will have more interesting setups

• Siren Crown Doro X X
• Liter SRos Bready X X
• Rapipi Tia Naga XLud QQ
• Maids X X
• Elec. Comp

Can be the casual comp.

I mean, who here has built Phantom and XGuillo anyway?

Well I personally dont have Bready so thats that

[kind horizon]

Can I play with my 0/0/0 no ol xguillo?

[lapis ravine]

[kind horizon]

[serene notch]

does that comp even work?

tia reenters

[kind horizon]

Smh whale card revoked

[lapis ravine]

I mean Rapipi is B1.

[serene notch]

hol up does she actually go b1 if there's a reenter b1?

[lapis ravine]

Does this boss core hide behind shell

[serene notch]

it's supposed to activate if no b1

[lapis ravine]

For the whole fight

[lapis ravine]

Reenter isnt counted

[serene notch]

big if true

[lapis ravine]

Why do I feel like it will be Crown Naga

[serene notch]

tia 🚮

[lapis ravine]

Tove Leona might be a thing.

If can survive.

• Siren Crown Doro X Naga
• Liter SRos Bready X X
• Maids X X
• Elec. Comp
• Tove X X X X

Can be another casual comp.

[serene notch]

Ah yes

The strongest water team

The electro team.

[lapis ravine]

Will Asuka be used in this raid

I think some people will use her

Bet

Perma core right

Bet

[serene notch]

Mg go brrrrrr

[lapis ravine]

Full force Rapipi Grave Asuka Rei Mod comp

WAIT

No water

😦

[serene notch]

Use rem instead

[lapis ravine]

Now thats ultimate trolling

[serene notch]

Xlud is busy being in a real team

[lapis ravine]

Well uh

We dont have water cdr

I mean we have 2

But

Doro Priv and MilkTr

Tho I wonder if Elec team will get yeeted

For Asuka comp

[serene notch]

milk redemption arc

[brave hare]

balice or priv was used on that for mat-h

[bitter isle]

If milk had better cdr she would be meta so they gave her the worst cdr in the game. She would probably be used in shotgun team with tove and attack buff and crit dmg would be bonus but because cdr is so ass it's a bonus and attack% is main buff but it's also ass so noone plays her

[lapis ravine]

Guys I was lied to

The boss omly has 40% core uptime

[kind horizon]

Then what we do

[lapis ravine]

Tove Crown Doro HelmTr Siren

Liter SRos Bready Raven Mihara

[kind horizon]

motherfucking tove doll stuck in sr11

And no bread

Yikes

[lapis ravine]

Hmm maybe

Siren Crown Doro HelmTr SElegg

Liter SRos Bready Raven/ViperTr Mihara

Rapipi Maids SBS Alice (OR) QQ XGuillo
Tove Tia Naga BSoda Drake
Electric Comp. + Grave + XLud

Here you go, casual players friendly.

[lapis ravine]

XGuillo = Since when am I casual friendly

[kind horizon]

Is no ol 0/0/0 xguillo enough

[lapis ravine]

No.

Then do this:

[kind horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[lapis ravine]

Siren Crown Doro HelmTr SElegg
Liter Grave QQ Raven/ViperTr Mihara
Rapipi Maids SBS Alice
Tove Tia Naga BSoda Drake
Electric Comp. + Mari + XLud

[kind horizon]

You won’t believe this, but I also don’t have maid mast but thanks I’ll use the other 4 and try

[lapis ravine]

Nah, just go sleep.

If no Mast.

Don't even.

[kind horizon]

100% instead of 3%

[lapis ravine]

Bed that way, Sir.

[kind horizon]

[lapis ravine]

Siren Crown Doro HelmTr SElegg
Liter Grave SBS Alice Mihara
Rapipi Maids QQ Raven
Tove Tia Naga BSoda Drake
Electric Comp. + Mari + XLud

Might be better though. Depending on stuff.

Siren Crown Doro HelmTr SElegg
Liter Grave QQ Raven Mihara
Rapipi Maids SBS Alice
Tove Tia Naga BSoda Drake
Electric Comp. + Mari + XLud

I mean not a good cook but for 3% is enuf.

If no Bready, XGuillo, and Phantom.

And MirandaTr.

And SRos.

If no MastM, idk what to do.

Just use Blanc Noir + Tia Naga, then.

[rotund geode]

3% is free with those comps it's pretty much all meta

[kind horizon]

I have lb2 anchor but mast is too drunk to come home. I’ll manage somehow bro

[chilly idol]

how about giving doro her own private team?

[serene notch]

i don't have built raven

i should build viper

[orchid dagger]

no normal doro

[serene notch]

[chilly idol]

just let mih burst and u put in something like mod as off burst lol

[serene notch]

bready is my strongest water dps but i don't have a second sustained dps for sros

[lapis ravine]

Sure, Tove Crown Doro HelmTr Siren.

Yeet SG team.

Replace with a better comp.

[rotund geode]

we need sprivaty for sdoro

[agile estuary]

i kinda like qq with maids for reload tho, they buff pretty well. i kinda wana drop sbs alice

but yea we have quite a few variations now

my initial instinct tells me to go helm xlud elegg with doro sg

[chilly idol]

not this one but thx ig

will try something on reset

[odd osprey]

No such thing as casual friendly when it's water-weak

Too many units with medicore ceilings

[lapis ravine]

Liter SRos Bready Raven Mihara
Siren Crown HelmTr XLud SElegg
Volume Maids QQ Phantom/XGuillo
Tove Grave Doro BSoda DrakeTr/DrakeTr RRH(?)
Elec. Comp Phantom/XGuillo

[odd osprey]

Bready comp and electric comp will both die for casuals

Need healers

[lapis ravine]

:deluggi:

[odd osprey]

Guess Blanc works in electric

[lapis ravine]

[orchid dagger]

water weak has so many variations shit's unreal

[odd osprey]

That's why I like water

[chilly idol]

how come u pumping out teams lol

[odd osprey]

Also, no Raven

Viper

[lapis ravine]

Yiks forgot RRH.

[odd osprey]

Siren/Crown/S Doro/X Lud/S Elegg
Rapi/M Mast/Bready/Quency/M Anchor
Liter/Grave/Helm T/X Guillo/Mihara
Cindy/Rouge/Phantom/Mari/X Maiden
Tove/Leona/B Soda/Drake T/Noir

Siren/Crown/Helm T/X Lud/S Elegg
Liter/S Ros/Bready/X Guillo/Mihara
Rapi/M Mast/Quency/Phantom/M Anchor
Cindy/Rouge/S Anis/Mari (Rem?)/X Maiden
Tove/Viper/Leona/B Soda/S Doro

[lapis ravine]

Bready cope.

No Bready here.

[odd osprey]

Then bricked

[serene notch]

Bready skippers destroyed

I warned you

Pig summer

[lapis ravine]

Nah.

[soft basalt]

Nice, someone with worse rolls than me. I feel better now

My strategy for this Solo Raid is

anticipate that outside of the top 200, almost everybody will have horribly trash Water OLs and units

sneak in and take top 3%, and save for next Solo Raid

[kind horizon]

Ye same Strat for me

Sneak in 3% and chill

Water units besides helm, quency, xlud, sdoro, maids too ass to invest anyways

[brisk field]

3%? I'm gonna see if I can sneak in 1%

[serene cairn]

I might be stupid who is qq, quency?

[odd osprey]

Yeah, (Q)uency: Escape (Q)ueen

[serene cairn]

Figured

Thanks

[uncut pasture]

pure yapping chat

[soft basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sink-cute-pet-bath-gif-17353374

[agile estuary]

top 100

[brisk field]

[lapis ravine]

[lapis ravine]

Global?

Oh wait NA

Well rip

In SEA even top 100 dont have some units

[unborn trout]

if i already have 3x ammo and 3x element on rest of the gear. should i keep or change?

[open fable]

change and get another line on line 1

unless no more rocks

[chilly idol]

why u rolling if u alrdy have 4 ele and 3 ammo?

[unborn trout]

i uh.... fishing for all 2 good line

[chilly idol]