[Eve] New Unit Megathread

[trail quiver]

now is that worth it to you or not

[zealous swallow]

Eve?

[trail quiver]

yea

[harsh root]

Raven

[trail quiver]

everyone else is just shit no

[unkempt goblet]

even better than rh?

[zealous swallow]

Cope

[trail quiver]

no parts id think so

[unkempt goblet]

I see...

[zealous swallow]

Raven yes

[trail quiver]

with pierce involved dunno

[unkempt goblet]

I'll get at least 1 copy of each

[zealous swallow]

Eve is shit as far as i see

[trail quiver]

ive been getting up at 5 am every day for the past 3 days im not mathing

[unkempt goblet]

just another iron dps ig

[harsh root]

was hoping for water

I needwater for interception :/

[trail quiver]

is sequential dmg considered sustained dmg or no

[zealous swallow]

Nope

[trail quiver]

ew

is there any buffers for sequential?

no right

[zealous swallow]

None as well

[hasty nebula]

i think sequential is new

never seen it

[trail quiver]

im thinking that treasure volume is gonna release and that fixes her

[hasty nebula]

fixing a collab character?

unlikely

[trail quiver]

siren has it

[unkempt silo]

Cindy

[hasty nebula]

those 2 are top tier

would be odd to buff them more lol

[trail quiver]

true

if its B1 tho you probably wouldnt run with cindy

siren

god im tired

tho it applies to cindy too

[thick oracle]

Eve is mid

[zealous swallow]

Raven good

[thick oracle]

#1380852295247466563 message

[hasty nebula]

i heard eve's face was modelled after the ceo's wife

and they do her this dirty

[thick oracle]

Rip

Also we are pretty sure that eve is mid for campaign too I think

While raven is a bit more acceptable

[unkempt silo]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think sequential is just how targeting works.
Like if there's 5 enemies and u got 10 hits, it ensures that everyone gets hit 2x
1234512345
And not random where target 1 gets hit 3x at random order

[thick oracle]

Yeah it's shit Vs mobs

[zealous swallow]

Raven for campaign is just a nornal RL with no damage buff

[thick oracle]

She has burst skill damage AoE

[thick oracle]

Atk buff during fb

[slim dome]

So which of Eve's skills are repeatable?

[zealous swallow]

None

[unkempt goblet]

does eve only rly works in bossing? wut about raven

[slim dome]

That sentence came from nowhere?

[zealous swallow]

Raven for bossing too

[slim dome]

Hope someone can explain this clearly.

[unkempt goblet]

oh

[zealous swallow]

Just ignore it

Very scientific explaination

[ember kiln]

Where numbers

[zealous swallow]

[ember kiln]

Soline tier or Laplace?

[zealous swallow]

Eve?

[ember kiln]

Yeah

[zealous swallow]

Lemme guess

[ember kiln]

Well Laplace has pierce so I think Laplace is better

[zealous swallow]

Laplace tier when there's no pierce

Jokes aside, 240% x3x4 is mid

[ember kiln]

And AR

Not even a good weapon

[zealous swallow]

she can do 240%x6x4 during her full burst tho i think

[balmy warren]

at least Asuka got 18% AR + hitrate

[ember kiln]

For real hahaha

It's ok, Collab unit shouldn't be meta

[severe heart]

this is just in kim loves asuka more than his daughter

[ember kiln]

wait for Eva 3.0

Asuka Sniper pierce 60 shots per burst

[zealous swallow]

Well im a bit intrigued now

Cuz she has 60% crit rate

Lemme whip up a calc

[hot iron]

Add in base 15%

[candid raft]

maybe they're releasing gauntlet/wave battles and its gonna trigger her S2 repeatedly

[zealous swallow]

Ofc

[cosmic venture]

im pretty sure we discussed this for dot bready when she was posted

its generally x2, rapi has similar wording too

iirc?

[zealous swallow]

50%x2*

[hazy zephyr]

So stack Eve with Crit Rate because otherwise her skills don’t activate?

[unkempt goblet]

volume gets a use lmao

[pallid kite]

That “effects triggers repeatedly” means something right? SU won’t make Raven good but Eve trash, right?

[harsh root]

Why Eve is trash, I think Eve is good :/

[knotty herald]

Because summer event exist

[twin wharf]

Eve 1 copy unit, summer is saved

[zealous swallow]

first calc so take it with a grain of salt

with mast is too mid i think

lemme try with HelmTr instead?

[hollow hearth]

🚮

[ember kiln]

🚮

[hasty nebula]

dw eve i'll pull 1 copy of u

[slim dome]

still can't believe she's the main character in Stellar Blade

[heavy lantern]

and they made her this mid

[ember kiln]

Yeah you play with her around 20-30 hours

[heavy lantern]

My sweet girl, they butchered her. This can’t be the same Eve that beat the game

[slim dome]

Not even as good as Raven? The woman who was beaten so badly by Eve?

[hollow hearth]

please do raven 2

[slim dome]

This feels ridiculous. In other collabs, they clearly know who is the protagonist/popular character and give the strongest skills in the event. They don't do this in their own company's works.

[candid raft]

there's probably something wrong with the kit translation

[zealous swallow]

Raven is very clearly better just from simple calc

[hallow minnow]

Seems so dumb.. complete minor char compared to eve.. if anything i thought raven would be rei (aka the mid one)

[hasty nebula]

people said they loved raven's song

nobody said they loved eve's song

+1 for raven

[cosmic venture]

raven looks better imo

like design wise

so im not complaining

[bronze wagon]

raven is hotter so yea

[hazy zephyr]

Raven being a dramatic edge lord is so funny though.

[paper mirage]

Shift Up might be a hard company to collab with

[bronze wagon]

csm and rezero be like

[river grotto]

People acting like all collab units aren't A tier or S tier but in pvp only
Excluding evangelion of course but even evangelion has bad character kits like blue haired girl

[heavy lantern]

Thought the joke here was that they’re bad at collaborating with themselves since Steller Blade is theirs

[hasty nebula]

oh i see

unresolved hatred like sony collab with genshin

[heavy lantern]

Could be mistranslation, could be coping, we’ll see when after maintenance

[hasty nebula]

i think the issue is that they are iron

shift up's design philosophy with iron is that they suck ass as dps

[umbral heath]

how mid is eve ?

[cosmic venture]

surely itll be reverse bready

last minute nerf vs last minute buff

[heavy lantern]

Begging

[river grotto]

What's to buff if she's already the best unit for iron bosses?

[hot iron]

Can you do Miranda Mast(normal) s.helm Eve Rapi?

[river grotto]

Imagine if red hood buffs situation

[heavy lantern]

I didn’t run the numbers, @zealous swallow did

[zealous swallow]

What if she's duo AR?

[heavy lantern]

Pretty sure Rapi RH and RH (if there are parts) out perform her. Can’t say definitive any other units, and this is all speculative until after maintenance anyway, but for it to not be clear that Eve isn’t niche and this is their own IP is

[hot iron]

This changes everything

[cosmic venture]

13.65% is regular ar dmg ratio no?

[zealous swallow]

Shush

[cosmic venture]

usually we see lower ratios for dual weild

noah/soline/quency/k ect

[hot iron]

I hope actually.

[hot iron]

Regular

[zealous swallow]

Someone make an eve feedback post, quick

[hot iron]

AR is not a good weapon type

Better than smg at least

[cosmic venture]

im pretty sure theres already one

[zealous swallow]

Its for raven

[jade pewter]

here

Eve is so stronk we don't talk about her

[cosmic venture]

buff raven shes cooler

let eve rot

i want raven lb3

mommy come home

[hot iron]

@zealous swallow you able to do calculation for mirandaT, mast, shelm, eve and Rapi?

[zealous swallow]

Rapunzel?

[cosmic venture]

wats miranda t for?

[patent trail]

Snow White

[knotty herald]

Pump and dump, now we have
Pull and bench.

[cosmic venture]

theres no sw in that lineup

just banking on eve crit dmg?

[zealous swallow]

Maybe tmr

Ill do it on company time

[hot iron]

Rapi lol

Or SW but i wanted to keep the dpa constant in the comparison

[hybrid isle]

Just woke up. TLDR for now?

[hasty nebula]

so mid ppl are mad

[hybrid isle]

Wait I don't need to feel pressured to MLB?

[hot iron]

Good, not great

[knotty herald]

You will miss her butt

[umbral heath]

but you don't need MLB for that

[sick eagle]

Raven DoT can be dispelled or immuned, so there's that. MiheraOs's can't be

[zealous swallow]

That's too niche to be a problem

[cosmic venture]

I mean that was really just a problem because of boss matchup tbh, fire weak Indi isn't something I'ma take raven to

[unkempt silo]

Also...doesn't Raven just reapply the DoT right after? Cuz all she needs is full charge

Nvm, I reread, u'll lose stack

[severe compass]

We always have those surveys after collabs asking about the characters right? Wonder if majority of players said the collab characters were good as is? Because most of them are always mid or niche.

With Eve and Raven seems to be another case.

[cosmic venture]

imo mid/nieche limited banners are better for the game overall

having a unit thats only available for a limited time and claps everyone with no promise of return is not a good thing

[heavy lantern]

Sure, but they will 100% rerun Stellar Blade collab. Its their own IP and Stellar Blade 2 is coming out by the end of 2027

[spice wing]

Eve2 will be meta trust

[grand sparrow]

eva 3 will be meta first

[hallow minnow]

Both asukas were very good.. i expect most people (me to) thought she would be that or maybe better..

Who knows we will see in 7 hrs or so how good she is

Did people expect siren to do the damage she does.. prior to release? or were they just malding about "bad" buff numbers

[heavy lantern]

This is what I keep telling myself for Eve

[hallow minnow]

Time to 🙏🏻 🙏🏻 anyway.. i love stellar blade.. gonna be a bit of a letdown at this rate (especially if they don't do the ps5 owners a solid and give scarlet skin)

[hasty nebula]

calculate dmg under the assumption every shot is a crit

[cosmic venture]

I'm not sure about anything until su tells me they will tbh by that logic they shouldn't even be limited to begin with

[cosmic venture]

People who calculated expected siren to be about where she is

I think raon expected about 70% sbs?

[hasty nebula]

i believe her calcs were like 2/3 sbs

[cosmic venture]

Which is roughly what we see

[hot iron]

if you can stack alot of crits on Eve, she's should do very well in coreless bosses

[jade pewter]

I give her 55% of Rapi

or just rei 2.0

should be simple enough

dunno why people still obsessed with Scarlet

[river grotto]

Pull one copy and save everything for evangelion 3.0 ?

[hybrid isle]

Yes

And summer should be next

Skipping the Nier collab rerun ofc

[fluid canopy]

oh no eve is mid

i should skip or else

i think we need nikke that fix crit damage

[mellow ridge]

nah you need a dev for that

[heavy lantern]

My C7 Eve with 4x Black Atk, Ele, crit dmg lines will be meta

[fluid canopy]

eve roll doesnt need ammo, she needs crit dmg

maybe we put miranda with eve

[heavy lantern]

I don’t think anyone is really rolling ammo, since she has built in Bastion

[fluid canopy]

miranda-shelm-SW-eve-grave

SW ATK > Eve

because crit rate 1 ammo

miranda provides crit dmg

and eve provides built in crit rate

problem is, i think against providence, you need healer

[elfin gorge]

How much would ever need to crit every hit?

Eve

With 4 tier 9 crit lines she goes to95%crit right?

[fluid canopy]

well base crit 15%, eve skill 60%

that's 75%

give her 2 lines 11% then we rollin

[river grotto]

Helm gives 14% crit rate

[opal needle]

Doesn't Eve +50% ATK mess up with that?

[fluid canopy]

oh no, bricked

[river grotto]

She will need a lot of testing

[opal needle]

Crite Rate is 7% max per gear tho, you'll need serious luck to get 100% Crit Rate with OL.
It's possible, but be prepare to eat a lot of rocks.

[elfin gorge]

Just question, I should still pull her right? She seems like a really good iron dps, of which we don't have many

[fluid canopy]

well i suggest not to pursue crit rate then

crit damage all the way

[elfin gorge]

That's why u said 4 tier 9 crit lines, each one gyves 5% I think

That would be 95% crit rate

[fluid canopy]

then we wait nikke that has skill crit rate buff (only volume available)

[elfin gorge]

95% is still good I think

[hasty nebula]

seems like these last few patches we've been asking for a volume treasure

[fluid canopy]

75% minimum without ol gear

[fluid canopy]

good ol mast

[hot iron]

alot of crit from her as well

[elfin gorge]

But I guess that's only good If her skill deal more damage than what you could get going for crit damage instead

[river grotto]

Running mast as flex just because of that juicy crit rate

[fluid canopy]

maid mast has crit rate buff

[opal needle]

Tbh, I don't want to invest a lot of rock for Eve, I'll just slap 4 Elem and 1 Crit Rate and call it a day, unless she's revealed to be OP after testing.
1 Crit Rate is enough to reach 100% with the Maids.
Also we need to sacrifice an Iron unit to the Maids for the QTE anyway, and Eve seems like the best choice currently.

[elfin gorge]

And she benefits from the infinite ammo from maids too, since, 60 bullets

[ember kiln]

Guys what if she is dual AR?

[sick eagle]

Maids do make the most sense since Iron doesn't have a distributed damage damage dealer (yet)

[ember kiln]

Again, knowing SU standards that could be possible

[fluid canopy]

well Eve goes to maids with extra crit rate

but miranda has better crit dmg buff per burst

[hot iron]

miranda + mast

[fluid canopy]

problem is miranda doesnt have crit rate buff (only 1 bullet)

[sick eagle]

To be frank, if we're talking raids, Miranda goes with Snow White. If using Miranda with Eve, this leads to a Miranda + Snow White + Eve comp

[hot iron]

both gives crit damage and mast enuf to reach almost 100% crit rate

[elfin gorge]

Is people still using snow?

[hot iron]

if against boss with tons of parts

[opal needle]

Yeah, for Iron Weak Solo Raid, which happen very often (or not)

[sick eagle]

Yes. The problem was, literally, there wasn't an Iron Solo Raid to begin with.

For Union Raid, I'm sure those with built Snow Whites used her. Assuming they were able to use their attempt on Iron-weak boss (not always the case).

[fluid canopy]

then we have problem

Eve has built in ATK 50%, if she steals Miranda 1-bullet buff then bricked

[sick eagle]

Now there's one

[ember kiln]

[hot iron]

avoid dupes on Eve

[elfin gorge]

Get Snow White dupes :p

[hot iron]

eventually more SW dupes will come

[opal needle]

Or don't level up Eve S2

[ember kiln]

777

[elfin gorge]

Or don't pull eve

[fluid canopy]

skill 2 seem mid

10-4-10

buff ammo + atk

[opal needle]

I wonder if we need to lvl her her S2 to get the 3 ammo refund.

[elfin gorge]

Most likely

[hot iron]

if only s2 buffs crit damage rather than ammo

[fluid canopy]

please be 7 triggers 3 rounds

[sick eagle]

To make it work, assuming striving for Miranda + Snow White + Eve comp:

• Eve must take Ele + CrDmg + CrRate
  • Avoid Atk
• Snow White must take over 50% Atk
  • At worst, over 42% Atk if you can make Snow White proc the 5 seconds Atk self-buff... not advised

Then assuming everything else is equal (dolls, dupes), Snow White will have more Atk than Eve.

Sounds painful.

[opal needle]

And if we play Eve with SW, who is the Iron in the Maid team?

[fluid canopy]

raven + maxwell

team 5 either cindy brute force or laplace true damage

[opal needle]

Oh no, don't tell me I must build my Frima

[fluid canopy]

frima-dkw-laplace-ein-(burst 2)

[sick eagle]

The fact that Eve has to avoid Atk OLs to make it work likely precludes the idea entirely. Might as well stick Eve with maids while enjoying her own Atk OLs

No MirandaT partnering with her, but whatever

Also works out nicely if you hate Snow White and left her on the bench

• In this case, MirandaT can join Eve without issues

[fluid canopy]

well if you put Miranda + Helm + Eve

you don't need crit rate OL

because Helm provides crit rate 14%

[hasty nebula]

i'm not building 6 characters for a single raid this year lol

[sick eagle]

6 is a lot, are you including maids?

[hasty nebula]

i don't have mirandat

or sw

[river grotto]

Praying that eve is mid on paper busted in reality just like siren was

[hot iron]

on paper siren is alrdy busted

people saw the small buff% and said mid

but didn't realise the next meta b1cdr also provided low buffs

[ember kiln]

Yeah because most of us wanted a buffer not a sub DPS

[zealous swallow]

50% of a very buffed SBS

[river grotto]

Eve in few hours

Or probably more cause they will extend for sure

[burnt oracle]

Snake after sex sex sex sex consecutively many days now he got what he wanted he call her mid

[rich nebula]

skip

[rich nebula]

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[pallid kite]

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X · Jun 11, 2025, 8:38 AM

Some JP folk did meth and Eve is higher than Raven with either good crit dmg/rate lines

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1040640556071669814/1361640094926245990/IMG_4453.gif

[river grotto]

Yeah no shit

She's the main character

[fluid canopy]

Crit dmg per OL 20%++

miranda buff 80%++ per 20s

[cosmic venture]

what % of a not buff sbs vs very buff siren cuz thats what most people post

[fluid canopy]

Wait, OG Mast has bigPP crit dmg

skill 1: 50% critdmg every HP buff
skill 2: 23% crit rate but only first 30%
burst: crit dmg 22%

[hollow hearth]

google translation

[hasty nebula]

is rh carried hard by her self buffing b1 here?

[heavy lantern]

I mean she’s doing less than Mihara:BC off burst

[hollow hearth]

anyone knows who yudomira is?

[strange cypress]

Sounds like Ludmilla
Gotta channel the inner racism and pretend you're doing a thick Japanese accent.

[hollow hearth]

building raven should be cheaper than eve going max critical damage

[hallow minnow]

I mean this looks decent tbh

Why she called asuka lol

[hollow hearth]

ask google lol

prob w.asuka

[mellow ridge]

idk with how I roll OL crit rate/crit damage comes every time all the time

[hollow hearth]

8 line unit vs 12 line unit

[hallow minnow]

Fk load screen changes.. give me no charge damage/speed rolls on AR/SG/SMG etc

[river grotto]

So True

[thick oracle]

Nah this feels bait

Can someone resend kit my net is bugging man

[hollow hearth]

any chance?

when she burst it is 150% atk buff

[naive sky]

It's 100% attack buff during burst

Jp and KR are proper written

[hasty lynx]

For non electric enemies how strong is she even?

[jaunty hollow]

her ults = mulplier in skill 1 or 2 becomes double

not sure we gonna know soon

[analog grotto]

Eve and Raven doesn't look too bad as units. I can probably see them getting use in bosses.

Look pretty good actually.

I'm a little bitter about Lily being an SR Nikke and most importantly, another 40s B2 unit because Shift Up is too afraid to make another Crown.

[sick eagle]

This suggests Eve is meta albeit behind Cindy, RapiOs, and an Alice-fueled BScarlet

But what’s “crit damage max”?

And, who’s “Asuka lol”?

[analog grotto]

DAMN Eve looks strong! And so is Raven.

[hallow minnow]

Max crit damage ol? Idk

[heavy lantern]

I assume optimized crit damage ols
W.Asuka

[analog grotto]

Okay so Eve's desired OL gear is probably going to be ammo-crit. damage-base attack.

MAYBE Elemental damage replaces base attack.

What will Raven's OL gear be?

[sick eagle]

I’m suspecting Eve will be Ele, CrDmg, Atk. No ammo needed - maybe x1 for QoL at most.

• Eve has built-in Bastion vs Electric. Give her the actual Bastion, and she recovers so much ammo that it’s sick
• Put Eve with others that buff CrRate, she doesn’t need any on her OLs
  • Helm or pirate maids give her CrRate

Raven is more traditional: Ele, Atk, x1-x2 Ammo, x2-x3 secondary

[analog grotto]

Which Helm provides crit rate, normal (especially post treasure) or summer Helm?

I already use T. Helm in...everything, so I can squeeze in Eve.

[sick eagle]

Normal Helm. It’s for normal attacks only, though. So Eve would be still on 75% CrRate for non-normal attacks

So if that’s an issue, then could go Ele, CrDmg, CrRate… but then the CrRate is wasted with pirate maids

[analog grotto]

Wasn't there a cube for crit rate by the way?

If you don't want all crit rate OL slots, you can probably give Eve that to compensate.

[hasty nebula]

no

if we had crit rate cube that would be nuts for pvp

[analog grotto]

I thought we did. I think that was crit damage.

Or neither.

[hollow hearth]

asuka w, in east asian culture wwwwwwww means something like lololololol

[balmy warren]

warau
growing the grass

[burnt oracle]

But if i roll an ele, atk and crit rate all 3 lines without crit damage im still chilling right? Feel like she is easier to OL, instead of 2-3 specific lines she can go 3-5 etc?

[hasty lynx]

Since when is crit damage useful in this game

[ember kiln]

Snow with X4 ele atk and cri dmg

[hasty lynx]

Damn forgor bald white

Don’t tell me we gonna get Bald Eve Strats soon

[trail quiver]

its def bald eve

she hits 100% with volume too

we pray for volume treasure

[hasty nebula]

the jiggle is real

it's like her ass is about to fall off

[slow walrus]

the gacha jiggle is like 10x more

[hasty nebula]

i'll check it out but that's doubtful

which one is her gacha outfit? she's got 3 outfits

looks all the same

[hasty nebula]

looks like you're getting scammed if you pay for the gacha animations down to the pose and her hair are the same

[opal needle]

It's up for more than 5min, where testing

[unkempt goblet]

what a disappointment

[river grotto]

Peak incoming

She will be meta peak ssss

[elfin gorge]

So, skip raven then?

[sick eagle]

No. CrDmg is stronger for Eve. That's why in the bar chart, CrDmg Eve is way better than CrRate only Eve

However, that's... well, that's min-maxing. You can chill as much as you'd like, don't let this dictate how many rocks you must burn

You could go just Ele, with nothing else, and skate by cheaply and watch everybody else's more seriously invested Eve crush yours

That sort of thing

[sick eagle]

Aside from what I just said, I think no-CrDmg OLs Eve is pretty respectable, so yeah. That works for chill

[analog grotto]

SO what skills need to be leveled up for Eve?

[elfin gorge]

Wouldn't it be better to go for damage and just pair her with maids?

[sick eagle]

That's what I think too, but you would also gain the ability to deploy her away from maids

[hasty nebula]

dmg taken is in s1 as well as extra shots
atk% is in s2
nice dmg bonus is in burst

7/7/7 to start with

[stuck storm]

who is eve? i actually have no idea about stellar blade

[sick eagle]

Or if you got just one CrRate, that at least gets you 100% CrRate with maids if it's high enough %

[analog grotto]

So I guess it's suggested to go all in for Eve, leveling skills wise. If you really want to invest in her I mean.

[humble arch]

Or uhhhhhh skip?

[elfin gorge]

Question, is eve better or worse than red hood and rapi?

[slow walrus]

uhmm

[vapid lily]

Rapi unchallenged

[stuck storm]

OH MY GOD

[mystic hedge]

Eve Critical Damage is that high?

[stuck storm]

is eve guide available? kinda early though i guess

[hasty nebula]

too early

[hollow hearth]

nice rapi pull

[hasty nebula]

pilgrim + a mid

[stuck storm]

is eve that bad 💀

[sly cradle]

So it's 1 dupe and dip right?

[hasty nebula]

mid is mid

bad is bad

[stuck storm]

ic

[unkempt goblet]

mid = average

bad = get for collection

[sick eagle]

Eve didn't overthrow RapiOs for Iron. But RapiOs is technically fire. In some cases, RapiOs is forbidden from fighting for Iron (OC Infinity). But otherwise, you could just bring both, y'know

So RapiOs + Eve is potentially the strongest Iron B3 atm?
Aside from perfect Snow White situations

[unkempt goblet]

Rapios? is that a new cherrios flavor or smth?

hehe, am funni

[stuck storm]

i would buy that shit

[unkempt goblet]

same

[desert meadow]

I just call her rapipi

[unkempt goblet]

yeah

[sick eagle]

Rapi Operating System. Taciturn and never lets you down. Prefers red screen over blue screen.

[hasty nebula]

rapipi = sr rapi

[stuck storm]

imagine seeing nikke cereal at my local walmart holy shit

[unkempt goblet]

no that's just plain rapi

[hasty nebula]

sr version was called rapipi

[desert meadow]

Since when

[unkempt goblet]

never

[hasty nebula]

since the comics

[desert meadow]

All ive seen the ssr version be called is rapipi

[hasty nebula]

you know where the name originated from?

[unkempt goblet]

just casue tthe name used to apply to smth doesn't mean tthe nickname can't be applied to smth else now

nicknames, slang, and words in general have transformed in terms of what they mean and who are called them

[hasty nebula]

rapipi used in 2022

you think that's rapi red hood?

nah fam

[unkempt goblet]

nobody uses that term for sr rapi 3 years later

[stuck storm]

they just knew the future

time traveler exposed

[hasty nebula]

rapipi was used in a fan made comic to refer to the sr version of rapi

you might now know this

but to say rapipi = ssr version is false

[unkempt goblet]

since there is rapi: red hood, there is even less of a reason to ever talk about normal rapi, especially when rapi: red hood is now the current canonical identity

[unkempt goblet]

no, it's not

it's a nickname that was just moved over and adopted by everybody else

[hasty nebula]

yes for rapi herself

just noobs don't know

[ember kiln]

waiting for NO SCOPE LOCK tests

[unkempt goblet]

I think you're just finding a very hard time handling the fact that a nickname could apply to a different character, i apologize for your hardships

[hasty nebula]

i think you're not getting what i'm saying

[unkempt goblet]

but nearly everybody now refers to ssr rapi as "rapipi"

[hasty nebula]

yes

[unkempt goblet]

you keep trying to talk about stuff from 3 years ago

[hasty nebula]

cuz everybody is an idiot

[unkempt goblet]

when really itt doesn't matter now

[hasty nebula]

the only thing that matters is that people think rapipi is exclusively the ssr version

which is false

[unkempt goblet]

but you see, you're somehow making this small little thing such a big issue

[hasty nebula]

no you are

i was ready to move on 10 minutes ago

[unkempt goblet]

as if you're trying to stand on a podium and defend something so pointless

[unkempt goblet]

sure u were

[vapid lily]

Stop with the rapi talk just test eve

[unkempt goblet]

fair enough

[hasty nebula]

agreed

so any tests

by now some ppl should've done them

[slow walrus]

i mean for me it feels like she is around 50-60% of rapipi

[unkempt goblet]

compared to rh tho?

no parts

[hasty nebula]

60% of rapi is not bad

what's your ol like

[slow walrus]

but maybe 1 more crit dmg lines might change it somewhat?? im at 4 ele 2 atk 3 crit dmg atm

[visual gorge]

should I roll for eve, save for 2b, or cope for ssr Anis?

[unkempt goblet]

all 3

[visual gorge]

me wallet is getting dust

[vapid lily]

Heres my test for reference

[unkempt goblet]

rapipi is a pretty high bar for a dps but that's still... fairly low ngl

[slow walrus]

yeah this is about what i have as well

even mihara rapi on fire is kinda close

[visual gorge]

dang there's like no difference with or without pirates

[slow walrus]

yeah it was legit the same for me as well even if i didnt use pirates

[visual gorge]

team on the right is literally what I use except its RH instead

[unkempt goblet]

has anybody done testing with RH vs eve?

[hasty nebula]

was this on neutral content?

[visual gorge]

I don't mind going for eve, but I'm more campaign focused and wanted to know if she's usable

[unkempt goblet]

nope

[ember kiln]

stats?

[hasty nebula]

no don't bother for campaign

[unkempt goblet]

she's.. iron mihara

[spice wing]

shes meta for lobby

[unkempt goblet]

almost

better I think?

no wait that's raven

[visual gorge]

dang

[unkempt goblet]

raven is just mihara+

[visual gorge]

so she's just a show trophy unit?

[hasty nebula]

no

she's fully clothed

[unkempt goblet]

XD

[hasty nebula]

her shooting pose is really nice

but lobby is lame

[visual gorge]

bruh

[hasty nebula]

maybe if you buy an outfit for eve

[unkempt goblet]

raven has more use right?

[slow walrus]

im curious if this kit was made like a year in advance and they just didnt bother changing numbers

[unkempt goblet]

well looks like I'm saving $60

[hasty nebula]

it's a typical iron kit

[stuck storm]

do devs hate iron

[hasty nebula]

with ele% she will overtake many characters in her raid

[hasty nebula]

not if you're a support

[ember kiln]

what is a typical iron kit lol

[hasty nebula]

like liter or crown

[ember kiln]

last iron unit I saw was bsoda

[hasty nebula]

typical iron support is balls to the walls

typical iron dps makes people cry

like red hood release

[visual gorge]

so is eve or raven better?

[ember kiln]

[sick eagle]

REVEn is better

I think Raven might be easier to invest in, but Eve has bigger performance ceiling. And Raven has advantage against boss with parts. A significant advantage. Eve can't overcome this advantage

So choose your poison

[stuck storm]

porque no los dos

[hasty nebula]

raven can be good for union raid even

[vapid lily]

Rapi is this and Eve is 60 ele, 10 atk, 10 crit rate, 20 crit damage, 70 ammo
Edited : oh right forget to put doll on eve lol forget it then

[visual gorge]

because I don't have enough pulls lol

[hasty nebula]

if raven happens to strike gold with ele/parts

[stuck storm]

[visual gorge]

real

[ember kiln]

thanks

[visual gorge]

YALL I JUST DID 1 TEN PULL

HOLY SHIT

[visual gorge]

wait you might be onto something

[stuck storm]

[stuck storm]

good shit

[still basin]

me too

they're trying to butter me up after they destroyed my trust with unbreakable sphere

[cloud quartz]

max skill ?

[silver crescent]

whats the skill investments? 10/10/10?

[vapid lily]

10/7/7
No doll too meanwhile Rapi SR15
I think Eve is still good enough as a dps

[opal needle]

I'm dead for this SR, Eve took me 50 rocks just to get her helmet with 1 Elem Line, I don't have enough for Raven

[thick oracle]

Someone invest in eve pls

I'll give you a 1$ kitkat

[final cipher]

[thick oracle]

You

Show us

Kit is here

[final cipher]

Im waiting for more info

Too much fake info

[unreal cypress]

what's the verdict?

[thick oracle]

Invest 60000 rocks pls

[humble yoke]

[rotund stream]

They banned that guy

[final cipher]

Im waiting for Raven

I dont have enough rocks for both

[rotund stream]

Evistix
Forever missed

[humble yoke]

Pakmi

[lucid trail]

why short hair girl is SR

why why why why why why why

[hallow minnow]

She looks lower the RH.. let alone rapi rh

[lucid trail]

wtf she is frog

[final cipher]

[ornate thicket]

Rolled 3x 68.93 ammo ... should I cry ? Feel like it is wasted on her.

[ember kiln]

yeah ammo shit

[lucid trail]

she is hotter

[ornate thicket]

That is my luck any other unit and It would have been so good. Welp.

[burnt oracle]

Why wait, mihara came out and mid and u pumped entire retirement fund on her

Just gamble more

[final cipher]

[sly cradle]

No hope for iron

[harsh root]

I MLB Eve yeppe

[hybrid isle]

Ok I need that whale point emoji

[harsh root]

I'm not a whale bruh, I only have like Cindy's gacha skin :v I just go all in my savings.

[opal needle]

I just can't believe I dump the 90 rocks I saved just to get 4 mid Elem line, RNG is such a joke

[sly cradle]

[ornate thicket]

base line is 15% crit right ?

[lucid trail]

15

[harsh root]

• 60 from eve skill so 75?

[ornate thicket]

yeah if 15% base that is it. So one line of crit with Mast is enough.

[harsh root]

NIkke don't have crit rate cap right?

volume as burst 1 should be viable

[tired pendant]

If you had to choose who would you rather MLB between Raven or Eve? And are they on the same level as half anni/anni units like Mihara etc

[ornate thicket]

267.5% ammo ... I guess my eve is a MG now.

[strange cypress]

wdym cap?
I don't think we can go over 100. Not sure what would happen.

[tulip laurel]

Yeah I wanna know which better to core 7 raven or eve can only max 1

[humble yoke]

raven over eve for sure

[harsh root]

Eve

[ornate thicket]

none

[harsh root]

go all in for eve

[hybrid isle]

MLB is more than fine too

[zealous swallow]

Ikr

[hybrid isle]

No need to c7

Unless waifu

[tulip laurel]

I can mlb both already mlb eve . Gonna mlb first and see which better later

[desert meadow]

With summer right around the corner?

[ornate thicket]

^

[tulip laurel]

Oh yeah summer 😂

[hybrid isle]

And nier rerun if you care about collections / didnt get them on their first event

[tulip laurel]

I already maxed core nier cause waifu 😂

Sadly they are kinda weak

Almost forgot summer are op too

[terse maple]

what's the general consensus so far?

pull as novelty collab units, or pull as meta units?

[tulip laurel]

Mlb for iron weakness raid I think

[burnt oracle]

casual hardcore

[tulip laurel]

This ps2 mini game ain't mini at all

[ornate thicket]

She is good as a solo for iron. Damage is correct, Kit is self-contained.

Not optimized she is at 75% of RapiOs on element for me.

[tulip laurel]

Yeah can't beat rapi but fair enough the rate different

[ornate thicket]

I just like the fact that you don't need to have a preset roster to run her.

The last 5 units were a pain for that

[severe heart]

does she even need unlimited ammo since ar's reload is so low?

[thick oracle]

Put her in maids ig

[ornate thicket]

it helps with S1

she doesn't "need" it

[hybrid isle]

Yeah she should do just fine with maids

[severe heart]

now we just need to know if ele or crit damage stacking is better
I assume ele

[ornate thicket]

ele yes

[hybrid isle]

Frees you to go heavy with the crit damage OL lines , as you get the crit needed from them already

You mean stellar blade

[tranquil bramble]

Sorry for repeating, I assume for the lines she might need Ele, Attack, maybe ammo?

[light gale]

i bet is the same logic as last origin.

lets goooooooooooo

[minor storm]

I think crit instead of ammo

But prob too early to say it

[light gale]

nnow guys

so far hows eve cooking with her kit

meta or side dish?

[minor storm]

Idk, but doesnt seem meta

[light gale]

so no mlb

one copy is fine

[low ridge]

Eve hitting about 70% rapi on iron boss. Solid.

[humble yoke]

1 copy for collection and then save your mats to build raven first

if you really want to play iron raid

[light gale]

raven...

raven/

?

[humble yoke]

the unit that comes out next week

[hasty lynx]

[severe heart]

her burst only gets damage on level ups

[shell hazel]

Is she good

[light gale]

[light gale]

for now seems 1copy is fine for collection. other than that we wait till chiefs appear

[thick oracle]

Spam screenshots pls

Is sky testing

[hot iron]

Looks not bad actually. 10/7/7

[severe heart]

10/4/4 with lvl 15 blue doll. Dirt cheap rocks investments

nope cp diff

[hybrid isle]

I guess that's an option if you have a shit SW

[shell hazel]

Thx

[severe heart]

seems to be in line with projected sheet numbers
with better ols, skill lvls and a maxed doll mine can reach about 60-70% of my rapipi

[light gale]

so if i dont have a snow white builded at all. is she good in that snese? or still require more testing

[low ridge]

Eve hit rate tough. Could be great if there's no core. 1:1 with my rapi with zero core hits.

[severe heart]

mg units are also inflated in shooting range

hitscan core hits, really?

[hot iron]

70% of rapipi is actually very good

[hybrid isle]

The boss isn't available on stage 12 of the event right?

[hot iron]

She better eveb without core

[hybrid isle]

To check for core

[halcyon dew]

1:1 rapi sounds sus even without core

[low ridge]

getting 83% of rapi on ultra, not hitting core

rapid is pretty much perfect OL

[scarlet forum]

Couldnt find anything on pinned, is she good, must pull or skip?

[halcyon dew]

Do you have your eve OL stat?

[hot iron]

Its the crit that makes her shine in coreless

[tranquil bramble]

crit rate or damage?

[austere shoal]

skill priority?

[severe heart]

you'll need a single crit line (~5%) and maid mast to max out crit rate

[low ridge]

eve is 4 critc 4 critd 3 ele 1 ammo

[hot iron]

Her innate crit rate plus if roll crit damage or with miranda she deals quite high damage numbers

[tall fox]

grabbed no screenshots but he is
think he's testing vs rh soon

[low ridge]

trying different teams but can't really push eve above that 80-85 of rapi

[marble sinew]

JP Tier is already out

[thick oracle]

No way

[halcyon dew]

Where is snek tldr

[thick oracle]

If the damage output is tru3

Bro I need screenshots

[tall fox]

think sky's crown/siren/thelm/eve/rapi was 26b w ~55% ed c4 eve?

[thick oracle]

Tell SU to contact me as well

[tall fox]

wait you can rewind

[thick oracle]

Show SS of the damage diff be rapi and eve

And stats

[tall fox]

nooooo he didn't show the log just the final dmg

[thick oracle]

How come no one is full sending eve

[thick oracle]

xD

[low ridge]

that's kraken as a no core target dummy with no ele advantage

[severe heart]

those supports doe
it's like I'm going back to 1.x again

[low ridge]

ha, trying to figure out what compliments eve's crits best

obv pirate maids are great if you dont have ol lines

my rapi and eve are both 10/10/10, level 5 ol gear, rapi is 95% ele, 30% attack, 200% ammo from OL

eve has more lines so it pushes her cp higher

oh and eve is mlb, rapid is one copy, biggest reason

[sly cradle]

I see this web give everything SS

[vagrant basalt]

Rapipi once again beats competition to death, don't forget she's double role and element, and she still loses to basically no one in single ele in general

[burnt oracle]

Provisional tentative* ss tier

[low ridge]

ultra, so elemental advantage

[tranquil bramble]

assuming that she wants Bastion?

[tall fox]

@thick oracle 10/1/10 - he was messing around w skills n then got sidetracked later, has rolled since but was smth i skimmed yt vod for quick thing

c4
bastion 15
r15
ed 51.05
atk 19.4
ammo 27.84
crate 4.35
crdmg 12.52

[low ridge]

holy moly

[hearty linden]

Srry theres alot to read so imma just ask the question

What tier?

[low ridge]

more meta team, ultra

[tall fox]

@thick oracle same ols as here but 10/10/10

[vagrant basalt]

[spice wing]

Are you playing at 20 fps?

[tall fox]

"i lost 1.2b(?) on rapi 300m siren, 200m crown, negligible on helm"
not sure of his rh's stats
all tests are auto so far
@thick oracle

[earnest holly]

80 ele rh he said

[uncut goblet]

so guys mlb her or not yet

[languid sail]

She don't cost it

[hollow hatch]

Is the numba out yet???

[tall fox]

ol change, it looked like he lost dmg at first but auto jump timing messed it up a bit

c4
bastion 15
r15
ed 73.2
ammo 0
crate 0
crdmg 8.6

@thick oracle

[uncut goblet]

wdym

[tall fox]

that's bc they ARE his snake asked for someone to fwd them

[languid sail]

U can pull Eve once, but not mlb

[low ridge]

my best guess is that its the OL, my eve is at 60 cd

[uncut goblet]

ok ty got her first pull will save it

[low ridge]

i've been getting 80-85 since, that was an outlier on non elemental

[languid sail]

I hope they do Raven better

Honestly

[tall fox]

to keep people from needing to scroll directly, eve 73% v rh 80

[low ridge]

if there are core hits, rapi shoots up at least 20% more

[hot iron]

Midhood

The future is now, old woman

[tall fox]

she's p much lined up to be, her raw dmg from dots is higher than mihara people were saying i think

[hollow hatch]

Doesn't look that good
Sound like a sub-meta unit

[languid sail]

Btw she is not in line with Rap RH

She s lower

[tall fox]

well i mean yeah

[languid sail]

So u can use her for a specific content like raids only for bosses with parts

But solo target sucks

[kindred shuttle]

from Sky's test, seems better than RH

[tall fox]

i don't think partless raven will be bad bc of her base of what, like 600% dot/s?

• self atk and whatever else her kit had

[kindred shuttle]

her real damage is higher, but i assume he tests it on the training ground still?

[languid sail]

Some of u trying it on interception?

[hot iron]

Without core eve stocks even higher

[languid sail]

On mock battle

[tall fox]

yeah fire range, testing v ultra is kinda awkward w pierce even if it isn't permanent

i think it's more important to see how eve does w decent ols vs "god" ols for anyone wanting to go cheaper n treat as 2 different units, cuz cheaper looks similar to iron xlud

[hollow hatch]

Eve reveeww wen @rotund drift

Swipe if goood

[low ridge]

one more

full auto shooting range, exactly 70%

[final cipher]

[hollow hatch]

So not good

[hollow hatch]

Okay

[hybrid isle]

I was about to mention a scene, but it ended happening regardless

[dense ibex]

Hmm.. i can work with this.

[severe heart]

she's good then
remember when everyone was creaming about how good rh was back then?

[final cipher]

I'll wait for Raven

[jade pewter]

dunno why people cope so much with this Rei 3.0

[tall fox]

reisuka

[hot iron]

Sus when there's 0 elem

Ic

[vernal berry]

crit based kit
alas, elem multiplier cannot be beat

[tall fox]

it's scrolled down a bit

[hot iron]

Miranda+mast stonks

[hot iron]

Yea cos elem is its own multiplier

[severe heart]

eve is taller than rapi

and wider too

[hot iron]

What is lily even sitting on

[twin wharf]

My face

[severe heart]

the psychic projection of my face
(i'm a 30yo wizard)

[vernal berry]

I mean, those platform shoes on Eve.

[severe heart]

stop posting rabi

[thick oracle]

Rh lvl dps in the big 25 🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

[thick oracle]

Eve sucks ass 💔

Iron weak solo raid only unit

[thick oracle]

One copy and dip

[thick oracle]

4 ele 4 atk
4 crit damage

Filler
0-2 crit rate
1 ammo

[thick oracle]

4/4/1 -> 7/4/4 -> 10/7/4 (-> 10/10/7)
Early game -> Min -> Recommended -> Peak

[fluid canopy]

you can ditch ATK

Ele > Crit dmg > Crit rate

because she has huge built-in ATK

[thick oracle]

50% self atk buff?

It isn't a lot

[fluid canopy]

OL only gives 11% avg

per gear

[thick oracle]

That's a lot

Atk isn't diminished so easily over crit dmg I think

[burnt oracle]

Arima w 4 atk line 2

[fluid canopy]

if you want to put her with miranda, avoid ATK

because she steals 1-ammo crit rate buff

[twilit herald]

so one copy huh

[sick eagle]

It’s probably not that bad because of pirate maids. If Eve would steal from Snow White, just punt Eve to pirate maids. With pirate maids, there’s no room for Miranda because then it’d be a no CDR team

[hot iron]

pirate maids give some CR and CD so it's good too

[twin wharf]

Snake can you just group all the point into 1 pin ?

[hot iron]

eve burst only buffs her nuke damage, i don't think 10 is even recommended

7 should be enough

[silver crescent]

lets just hope raven is better

[jade pewter]

7/7/4 for the rei 3.0

[olive drum]

How's the cook

[high musk]

Doesn't matter, roll for that ass

[twin wharf]

doesn't even show her ass in lb screen

skip

[high musk]

Really?

[twin wharf]

lb screen show the last bit of the vid

aka her face

[fresh trellis]

is this even good?

[twin wharf]

ngl i thought he compares Eve with RRH, then goes "damn she's on par with RRH but still people say she's mid"

then come to the realization that it's RH not RRH

[fresh trellis]

can someone explain her burst for me?

idk wtf is her burst do

[vagrant basalt]

do dmg

[fresh trellis]

[jaunty hollow]

all passive dmg multiplier double, and burst dmg is like 4xx something x6 or something

[tropic elm]

so eve is meh tier? but it's so easy to get her, 40 pull and mlb already

[boreal hatch]

Tlde pls

[steady snow]

Oops wrong reply

[boreal hatch]

Omaigatoo

[thick oracle]

Ohhh that scaling is 100% from the start???

[steady snow]

Does she need 100% cr or does she still work better with atk ele ammo?

[fluid canopy]

ammo isnt necessary

devs want to try crit meta

you can choose beetween crit dmg or atk

[steady snow]

So she goes 4 ele 4 atk 2 cr 2 cd?

[fluid canopy]

well yes

[steady snow]

As long as it hits 100%, right?

[fluid canopy]

right

[steady snow]

Gotcha

Ty ty

[thick oracle]

Ammo necessary unless if you run in 100% ammo team (maids)

[fresh trellis]

YEA

[steady snow]

I ain't got any maids 🔥

[thick oracle]

Fixed

[fresh trellis]

oh f

already???

[hot iron]

10/7/7 is enough

[final cipher]

smh

not Iron believers

Go 10 10 10

[fresh trellis]

but what team go with her...

that's the problem

[thick oracle]

No I mean

Fixed my pin

[fresh trellis]

oh

[final cipher]

wait until SR @thick oracle

[fresh trellis]

wtf

how are you got so much

[tropic elm]

I don't think eve can beat rrh no matter how you build her.
her only fault is she is on iron.

[thick oracle]

Imagine building iron for 1 raid to be benched for 7 months again

[final cipher]

just be lucky

[fresh trellis]

[final cipher]

Even I build or not, Im still bricked

It's a thing for Iron players

[fresh trellis]

time to save for raven

• 1000 golden ticket still in safe

but

@thick oracle can i ask you smth?

[thick oracle]

Yes

[fresh trellis]

so, can eve and raven go together in the same team?

and who i prefer to pull?

[thick oracle]

Raven

[thick oracle]

Yes but it's not ideal

It may be probably ideal I guess in some team setups, it really depends on how your other teams shape up to be

[fresh trellis]

i see...

[thick oracle]

Like if you have

• Crown RRH RH

• Tove BSoda

• MirandaT SW MW

• team 4

• Maids Raven Eve
  For a team 5 sounds workable

[thick oracle]

Damn wait, are there not enough iron units for 5 teams?

[fresh trellis]

yea.....

if i remember

[thick oracle]

Oh well you'll need to find a solution somehow for it

[fresh trellis]

ok

[thick oracle]

There's Laplace

[fresh trellis]

oh hell nah

my nightmare....

[thick oracle]

Yeah I guess Laplace team 5

[fresh trellis]

ok~

also, why raven prefer to pull?

is she like buffer or something?

[unkempt epoch]

Raven is Dot dps

So maid doesn't buff as much

[thick oracle]

Oh hell nah are we gonna see that stupid SRosanna again

[unkempt epoch]

Back to SRossana

[thick oracle]

[fresh trellis]

OH FUCK NOOOOO

[unkempt epoch]

You want SRossana or Crust

[fresh trellis]

crust in fine

[thick oracle]

• Crown RRH RH
• Tove BSoda
• MirandaT SW MW
• Maids Eve Plaplace
• SRosanna Raven

[fresh trellis]

welp

[thick oracle]

They made srosa great again just in time for her rerun

[fresh trellis]

time to pull rosanna again i guess...

[unkempt epoch]

So just do SRossanna, Raven, DMihara

[fresh trellis]

[unkempt epoch]

[tall fox]

naw man it's been a full year, n mari's been out too long, it's time for a new b2

[thick oracle]

Yeah that's just filler

[thick oracle]

Yeah I mean there's summer soon

And treasures

[tall fox]

was gonna pop my molds and whatnot months ago, but i just need to know what's coming for tres

[final cipher]

Surely SW treasure

[hybrid isle]

where's cindy

[thick oracle]

Dead ofc

[hybrid isle]

[thick oracle]

Witness the first boss with no neutral team soon™

Welcome to elemental meta

[terse carbon]

whats eve best cube?

[tall fox]

isn't iron pretty close? or is it water?

[thick oracle]

Resilience bastion, why do people even ask this in 2025

[thick oracle]

Idk I think water still used Cindy

[tall fox]

sky was testing bastion and apparently her s2's bastion works on hit, so you might desync if you whiff

[fresh trellis]

because why not

[tall fox]

ah

[final cipher]

@thick oracle

[thick oracle]

What's this sync 400

Why troll

[hybrid isle]

[final cipher]

Ultra

[thick oracle]

Hmm

[final cipher]

[thick oracle]

Lemme check my clear rq

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1079397917435101247/1381337506741751908/image.png?ex=684b1acd&is=6849c94d&hm=845abaef1f4e5ae12c10829dd643ce91433b793aa96ae2ad74545d2da8f49884&

[thick oracle]

Were you funneling her?

[final cipher]

RapiB1 Crown Mats HelmT

[thick oracle]

Mats?

Maid mast

[final cipher]

Mats

Yeah

We dont talk about OG Mast

[thick oracle]

No I got confused as fuck cuz I've been playing Fortnite man

[unkempt silo]

Can I ask if there's any dmg comparison made now, and how Eve is performing?

[thick oracle]

65-85% of rrh depending on investments

Low and top end

[thick oracle]

This feels perfectly usable

[final cipher]

[hybrid spoke]

Were the comparisons to SBS assuming neutral on both? If so, that's not very useful

If she's 70% of SBS when SBS is neutral and she's on element, then she's garbage

[unkempt silo]

U mean the initial calc Raon did?

[hybrid spoke]

Ah, those numbers were from raon? Cool