[Anchor: Innocent Maid] New Unit Megathread

[rain topaz]

So they are basically units who need full build otherwise don't use them

[finite falcon]

Like most support cores, yes.

[rain topaz]

[zinc onyx]

i want my mana resources back

[rain topaz]

I'm using my grave and Mari 7/7/7

[zinc onyx]

shit unit

[hoary trench]

Yeah, the sea maids died to code barrier QTE fail

[finite falcon]

I'll be curious to see how many Distributed Damage units we get in the next few months that synergize with Maids

[hoary trench]

Also felt like they bursted slower, normally Helm would burst right before the failed QTE nuked team

[zinc onyx]

the rest survived right?

[hoary trench]

Instead nobody was bursting, and the one whose burst just ended was BS Scarlet's

Yeah, the rest did. Breakthroughs diff

[zinc onyx]

u have helm t in the middle?

i burst 0.5 sec before kraken hit his qte

[hoary trench]

No, BS Scarlet. Was Helm, BS Scarlet, Rapi for center three

I do that too (burst just before failed QTE nukes team) when it's Crown, Helm, BS Scarlet, Rapi, Noah

Lot faster burst gen

[finite falcon]

Because another legitimate issue is that while getting to 100% reload speed is fantastic, a lot of the Maid damage buffs are locked to Distributed Damage units (which are still pretty rare and usually don't make up most of a unit's damage anyway. SBS is just unique in that she's always churning out Distributed Damage from her basic attacks rather than only her burst)

[royal berry]

From Womb test about, Alice Sbs combined damage are almost the same, if Maids get copies this duo would deal more damage.
The difference is just the other 3 nikkes where Crown just core hit the range boss entire time where the Maids especially Mast would miss core more, Anchor looks to have no damage herself where HelmT does have, and Rapipi cant utilize Maids kit.
So whatever math before said here, look pretty solid

[karmic tinsel]

so on paper maids are good, in reality they need a manual sniper rifle to spam burst gen?

[hoary trench]

Code barrier QTE fail death

Don't mind these screenshots, pretty meaningless and idk why I shared them

[clever cargo]

Hey, so how good is the duo actually?

[finite falcon]

And the only remotely viable Distributed Damage units right now are basically Dorothy (who barely shows up in Solo Raids atm), Scarlet BS, and Escape Queen Quency

[zinc onyx]

the rest is pretty healthy

[hoary trench]

Duo looks pretty good

Just expensive as hell

This isn't one of those duos where you go 10/4/4 and get away with it

[finite falcon]

Assuming Neutral damage and the carries are Distributed Damage, it looks like the rankings are something like Crown comps > Maids > Tiga > Bunnies

[rain topaz]

Yeah reason why I told him to replace helmT with privaty

[hoary trench]

It's 10/10/10 or close For both

[rain topaz]

Anyway shooting range boss sucks because permanent core

[finite falcon]

But you have to 10/10/10 both Maids, and since their ATK buffs are Caster ATK, they benefit a lot more from dupes than standard units

[rain topaz]

What if I wanna test different bosses?

[finite falcon]

compared to a support like Liter who only needs 1 copy and minimal investment to see value

[coarse sonnet]

do they need specific OL lines

[karmic tinsel]

I wonder if SU is aware how expensive all the skill investments are becoming
at this rate is there any books left for collab?

[rain topaz]

They don't, 4 rocks it's ok

[finite falcon]

Their personal DPS is low enough that their OL lines don't matter as much as just making sure that they have OL gear for stats

[clever cargo]

You know, is funny how this 2 last banners are basically just Sbs support

[finite falcon]

their reload speed buffs take some time to stack up though, so you'd probably want at least Anchor to have a few Ammo lines for burst gen

[rain topaz]

Let's say, gears leveled, doll and consoles are important things for them

[karmic tinsel]

and before both was a sbs rerun

at the same time as Rapipi

[clever cargo]

Wasn't her damage originally a bug?

[karmic tinsel]

yes charge damage bug like Harran

[zinc onyx]

small indie company

[rain topaz]

So, who else is leveling their maids?

[hoary trench]

People will have books once skill reset window comes out

That's what veteran competitive raiders simply wait for now to move around skill levels

[rain topaz]

Honestly skill reset shouldn't be the solution cmon

We need more books

[hoary trench]

It's not like we have 0 other invested characters and can't pay for sea maids' skills, it's that we have too many skill invested characters now

[zinc onyx]

SU: "use cash shop"

[clever cargo]

Maybe we get over-overclock simulation room?

[finite falcon]

It's not, but bluntly skill books are kept as scarce as possible to keep people buying book packages

[hoary trench]

Some of it is my fault, like I invested a bit in Snow White skills a couple months ago...

[karmic tinsel]

not to mention some smoge collab units that eat books too

[hoary trench]

[finite falcon]

30-day Supply Chests help a little bit if you have an awkward number of skill books / mats and you need to level things out

[karmic tinsel]

uhh I think that's next week

[zinc onyx]

need a bottleneck to milk players

[finite falcon]

but yeah, books will likely almost always be kept scarce

[rain topaz]

Nobody is surprised, this is a problem since day 1

[hoary trench]

Is it a loss to conver those to skill books instead of credits or core dust?

I never checked those numbers

[karmic tinsel]

well once you hit like sync 551 it's not worth it, your outpost covers it just fine

[finite falcon]

I've never done the arithmatic directly, so I can only speak to how it feels rather than how efficient it is

[coarse sonnet]

just 1 copy is good?

[rain topaz]

[zinc onyx]

u guys doing those discord sign in? it have some free books every week or so

[hoary trench]

Yes though she uses caster's atk buffing too so will scale with dupes

[finite falcon]

but on the occasions where I HAVE gotten that 30-day supply check package, it's pretty convenient if you're say, low on a particular type of book and you just need 20-30 of a particular type to get that next skill level

[hoary trench]

Well, we'll see what happens in Solo Raid. Surely I would not be the only player screwed on sea maids skill mats. Others will be in the same boat (pun not intended)

[karmic tinsel]

nah more like virtually everyone will be screwed in not getting helm phase 3

[hoary trench]

That, I will have I'll even have Helm burst lvl10

If I decide I'd use her burst

[rain topaz]

One copy is enough, it's never recommended to pull more than 1 in permanent banners or for f2p people

[coarse sonnet]

i forget about them most of the week 'cause the reward is so miniscule

[hoary trench]

Maincord added a reminder role you can claim, they ping you every day to sign in

I use it, haven't missed a single one since then

[karmic tinsel]

all jokes aside, the day campaign comes out is the day the game almost dies

because it's almost certainly when collab comes out at the same time

and also when mast but not anchor is added to the standard pool

[hoary trench]

??? They wouldn't do that, surely

[gusty lily]

Why not anchor too? lol

[hoary trench]

It'll be both added

[karmic tinsel]

that's why I went all in to get one copy of anchor

[gusty lily]

lol what is that logic

[hoary trench]

It won't be the first time they waited for 2nd character banner to expire before doing a patch

[karmic tinsel]

anchor goes on for a week after when a maintenance/update happens

[hoary trench]

So I was expecting that

[gusty lily]

So we getting collab next week?

Where do you know

[karmic tinsel]

patch notes

[gusty lily]

patch notes out already??

Sheesh

[hoary trench]

20 days on Maid Anchor confirmed

[oak hound]

patch notes where

[karmic tinsel]

if you pay close attention to when the event ends

[hoary trench]

So Feb 25 the banner will end

[gusty lily]

Oh that

[hoary trench]

When's the patch?

[gusty lily]

in 2 weeks as usual

[karmic tinsel]

probably morning of the 18th

[heady condor]

This event finishes in 2 weeks

[karmic tinsel]

at least for me in utc -5

[hoary trench]

... RIP, GG NO RE

[hoary trench]

Well, maybe the patch at end of EVA collab will add her

Surely?

[heady condor]

I wouldn't count on them being added until after Eva

Both mast and Anchor

Collab should bring Rapipi and Mana

[rough wing]

[hoary trench]

Wait

What if it's worse?

What if ShiftUp does us dirty and doesn't add anybody for EVA patch either

[rough wing]

[heady condor]

Then they can go get fucked

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sad-blade-runner-gif-27204562

[hoary trench]

No Rapi Hood in pool for all the EVA banner pulls

[oak hound]

so what is she godly or shit

[rough wing]

i will fly to korea to have a word

[karmic tinsel]

no standard wishlist either
so people will be stranded for this solo raid, and Massive Object Q Upgraded

It's like Rapipi doesn't exist

[rain topaz]

[karmic tinsel]

the most optimistic case: SU lied about the collab

we get a filler event + chapter 35/36

and a week to breathe before the collab starts

[heady condor]

Ooooor

We get 1 dead week

[gusty lily]

We got a dead week

[heady condor]

And collab starts the 26th

[gusty lily]

In the form of an extra week of hard mode

This maid shit should’ve been 2 weeks

[oak hound]

this kinda feels like anchor and mast are skips/bait/breathers for all but the sweatiest

[rain topaz]

Yeah is weird

[gusty lily]

They’re just whale bait

[oak hound]

neither are meta breaking or offer anything incredibly special

[gusty lily]

and will be quickly forgotten once Eva kits drop

[oak hound]

that's what I suspect also

[karmic tinsel]

what's to say eva 2 isn't bait for half anni 10 weeks after it starts?

[oak hound]

I think i'm gonna save my gems for eva 2 so I can get one copy each then save for half anni

[rain topaz]

We have 2 weeks or hard mode

[gusty lily]

What’s to say half anni isn’t bait for the anni that starts 6 months afterwards?

[rain topaz]

They are giving us a lot of core boxes

[gusty lily]

It’s so half cooked man

I can’t even

[rain topaz]

So what now?

SR starts in a few hours

[oak hound]

yuck

[rain topaz]

Normal people can't build them in time

[hoary trench]

Sip tea, watch people murder each other for Helm treasure maintenance kits

[oak hound]

honestly i'm so sick of SR

I just one and done it for gems

[rain topaz]

[karmic tinsel]

what about your pfp favorite item

[royal berry]

If u take away sr in mind and settle with 3%, its pretty chill no pressure on these units

[karmic tinsel]

but if you're going for top 0.5% or better? probably really tough

[oak hound]

barely a reason to get .5% or better other than showing people you can swipe harder than them

gemwise it's probably more efficient to just buy packs

[karmic tinsel]

I barely swipe, mostly just passes and gacha skin

[royal berry]

u can go for 0.5%, how much gem difference is that, prolly not enough to cover the scam cost of these banners

[oak hound]

that's what i'm saying

I'd understand swiping and whaling for a crown tier unit that changes the face of the main campaign team

but whaling skill books and rolls on maid mast/anchor so you can get top .5% on the valentine's solo raid?

[royal berry]

that hurts bro dont say that

[oak hound]

sorry

[rain topaz]

I'll try my classic top 200 without them

But lately I'm being pushed out of this top, maybe I'm becoming a bad player or maybe people are swiping and taking my places

[karmic tinsel]

not even actually
more like the fomo for the solo raids after it

it's not like they even do that much damage to mat h anyway

most of that is like xlud or quency or even phase 2/3 helm

[rain topaz]

If matH has permanent core xlud gonna be the mvp

[hoary trench]

I have all treasures now. Even Viper's

As for leveling Drake skills or rolling OLs, I think I can get away with just 10/4/4 T9Ms if she's just going to buff SG team and not do much else. Idk if that's how it'll pan out for Drake, but I should be able to run something

So I'm not feeling any pressure there I'm more of a "it's cool if I make top 3%" than trying for top 200

[ashen wharf]

She is very reliant on stat

U cant compare using shooting range

Yes it does drop over 50% damage

With level 200s

Lmao

Their atk is just 35000

Go think

As I said before release

The maids increase sbs damage

At the cost of team damage

And I said it would only make sense for wind weak

But when no core, theyre op

Maids will only pair with Rapipi or Alice at most or, less ideally, Electrics

[royal berry]

this effect is massive 👀 if indi comp has sth similar they can just outlive the blast at any stage

[placid trellis]

What makes them situational?

[royal berry]

in case the cook here slow, there is this guy who also cooking if you guys need some different insight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2fjTfg_I4Q

[placid trellis]

I guess they are unglued from SBS-Alice during wind?

[royal berry]

there are also the new Eva girls who're expected to be Wind element, so SBS maids + ? still remain to be seen

[hoary trench]

Funny if EVA girls bump the maids out of BS Scarlet team

[rain topaz]

Then half anni banner kick Eva and maids

[obsidian nest]

that's not what was said

the are particularly good in that situation

not that they aren't good when there is a core or when there isn't distributed dmg

[glacial shore]

The casters ATK you were getting is of the lvl200 units

Need to OL them for caster's then forget it

[twilit vessel]

Think we need ammo on anchor? For sometimes we run B3 non SR/RL

[glacial shore]

Not needed cuz you'll have Alice in team

If Alice isn't in team then yes

For burst gen

But don't think that happens

[twilit vessel]

Well look like sbs benefit the most here

[rain topaz]

Yeah yeah I explained that thing, and I said better wait for a good test, also your name xD

[rain topaz]

Yeah SBS stonk, Alice her personal slave forever

[dry crater]

What if I dont have rocks

[ashen wharf]

Tia Naga's weakness is clunkiness

[glacial shore]

There's only 2 ways to get rocks

[ashen wharf]

they feel super clunky often

• 0.5s reenter

sucks hell

they force slower rotations

imo that makes them weak

[glacial shore]

Isn't the real weakness the fact that they don't even buff SBS main DPS output

[dry crater]

I tried auto and they seem worse than Helm Crown

[rain topaz]

So 10/10/10 otherwise rip bozo?

[ashen wharf]

Have always been

[glacial shore]

I'm not sure why but they should be very close overall

[ashen wharf]

I alr mentioned BEFORE RELEASE

10 10 10 material or brick

its as simple as that

no need for testing

[glacial shore]

The point was that they're the same level

And now crown is freed

[rain topaz]

Then brick, bye

[ashen wharf]

all testings only confirm my hypothesis

[rain topaz]

[royal berry]

they are very close, just look at womb dps breakdown above

[ashen wharf]

• Mast Anchor being the 2nd best pair even for core content because Tia Naga is clunky to use.
• Mast Anchor has a lot of QoL benefits.
• Mast Anchor needs 10/10/10 to compete.

[rain topaz]

Wait for Tia treasure

Becomes B1 not re enter

[sacred sentinel]

dudes
they KNOW

[glacial shore]

To powercreep this pair, it may take a while imo it is kinda strong

But knowing shiftup braindead brainrot meta fest, I can only hope it's very fast

[ashen wharf]

SIR I ALR SAID THAT

u never believe me

smfh

my mental math is one of the best

[sacred sentinel]

10/10/10 for both
by the time they get truly powercrept

you can just reset

[obsidian nest]

the clunkiness does shoot them in the foot p hard for these specific pairings

it's fine if the main DPS is RH

but Alice has a hard time being a battery if there isn't a double hit in comparison

[sacred sentinel]

the itty bitty committee blessed me

[twilit vessel]

This will never happen with dps

[obsidian nest]

also my results are extra skewed by my randomly getting 3 ATK on initial bind on both of them

[glacial shore]

Just reroll them off

For the tests ofc

[obsidian nest]

tfw supports have more ATK lines than my RH and SW

[ashen wharf]

anything that doesnt have high uptime sucks with Tia Naga

[glacial shore]

Still struggling on iron 😭

Wait your SW doesn't even have 3 atk?

[obsidian nest]

nope

hardstuck on 2

[glacial shore]

How the heck do you cook so hard on sw teams

[obsidian nest]

it's called malding

https://youtu.be/0iBtzsb8-RM

[glacial shore]

Bruh

That is insane

[copper ingot]

erm. for some reason I think getting a perfect tove shotgun team where tove does not her stack more than once is rarer than this

joke aside, Miranda phase 2 treasure probably helps you save 3h of grinding this one run from now on

nice

[ashen wharf]

Tbh this song sounds weird to me it feels forced. shud have just used SBS's VA.

[glacial shore]

Getting 7 crits is definitely

Harder

Definitely

[sacred sentinel]

it finally happened
I ran out of skillII/burstII books

[obsidian nest]

Crit malding on yulha back in the day is harder

Bc you can actually ruin the run yourself really easily

Tove teams for the most part is just fighting tove stacks

[ashen wharf]

yeah Miranda is OP

[rain topaz]

[obsidian nest]

At least post soda

[ashen wharf]

the treasure Miranda

but I dont want to invest

in them

I didnt invest in Exia and I was bricked

this is less important than Exia anyway

[hoary trench]

How many maintenance kits to level that pause button?

[sacred sentinel]

recent must-roll shit killed my book stockpile
shitup learned how to make actual decent kits instead of 1.0-tier shit

[obsidian nest]

0 because just press it

Pausing GD is better safe than sorry

[hoary trench]

Hopefully GD never comes back for over a year

[obsidian nest]

Imagine losing that run bc too lazy to pause and GD spazzs to some stupid direction and I miss QTE

[rain topaz]

Grave digger wind weak soon

[hoary trench]

Next year, consecutive boss battles. 6 minutes of fighting, two GDs back to back

[twilit vessel]

No electric raid this year. Just do miranda

[ashen wharf]

Mana wasnt

and the momentum was new but to be expected

if u never chase MLB ure good forever

[sacred sentinel]

was talking about books, not rolls

rolls are actually generous if you're f2p
it's the books that you have to worry about

[placid trellis]

Chasing lb0 this year has reduced my stockpile by 40k, including the gems gained

I shouldn't have pulled Mana, and I got housing into pulling water maids although they only cost me 70 pulls overall

[heady condor]

maids only took 48 pulls thankfully, but I feel like the worst is yet to come for me

[twilit vessel]

Not only skill mat shortage. I don't even have material enough to upgrade OL+5

[sacred sentinel]

shitty phase 2 helm vs moderate investment mast anchor on wind weak

[polar ruin]

how moderate is it

[drifting current]

well i mean i guess they do make elysion tower easier

[sacred sentinel]

not 10/10/10 because I ran out of books

[drifting current]

i pulled cuz they are cute

[sacred sentinel]

helm doesn't have ols and 1/4/1

I'm skipping eva II's raid because fuck that shit
my books are gone

so yeah like people said crownhelm gud

[royal berry]

They are pretty close

[sacred sentinel]

crown naga isn't that realistic in raids I think

my shartgun likes tianaga

[twilit ruin]

one more pair, and can ditch tia to put naga with crown forever

[winged shore]

can just run helm+ too with crown right

[hoary trench]

Helm+ is nice, I think I'm going to do the same for all treasure units

[twilit ridge]

Tia going to team 3 is so sad

when tia/naga went to the sg team you know is kind of over for them almost.

yeah lmao, they dont want to add core boss also

[tough cove]

So who burst first? Mast or Anchor?

[glacial shore]

It should be obvious but mast cuz she has higher atk buff

[tough cove]

I have been busy and having a headache make me want to shut off my brain...

well, I got the Macho from 50 pulls total.

[hoary trench]

Maid Anchor skill priority

There is a Normal Priority and an Infinite Ammo Reload Speed Priority (IARSP). Normal priority is suitable for all players. IARSP is only for highly competitive Alice maximizers who already know how to make very rapid shots on her.

Normal priority:

• Minimum: 4/4/4
• Recommended: 4/7/4
• Max: 10/10/10

S2 > Burst > S1

Infinite ammo reload speed priority:

NOTE: For infinite ammo reload speed effect, where Alice instantly recovers ammo while firing, you need 108.85%+ reload speed. This is achieved with LV7+ resil cube and Maid Mast S2 level > Maid Anchor S2 level while adding up to 17+ levels.

• Minimum: 4/4/4
• Recommended: 4/8/4 (with Maid Mast S2 LV9+)
• Max: 10/10/10

S2 > Burst > S1

[mellow siren]

does anchor need OLs? or can live without?

[glacial shore]

Caster's atk

Just ol her

Don't

[mellow siren]

ahh

[glacial shore]

Reroll

[thorn cloak]

Pin this?

[hoary trench]

I can't pin but if others do after OP or whoever agrees then sure

[thorn cloak]

Caster's atk, Just ol her, Don't Reroll

Pin this also

[tough cove]

Me spark doll with rate of 3.3%...

[hoary trench]

Idk since I don't have a LV7 S1 but the main offense buffing offered by it is +dist dmg

LV1->LV2 numbers

So possibly +4.14% dist dmg for LV7->LV10

Could be higher if they bias it to the back of skill leveling though

[polar ruin]

if you’re really on budget, focus on s2 on both mast and anchor

anchor s1 and burst is mostly healing

yes there’s caster atk buff in there too but the reload speed is on s2

[hoary trench]

And only helps BS Scarlet herself in the presumed best sea maids team comp, though she's the star of the team anyway

But if you're at 7/10/10 odds are you're going to be super tempted to go 10/10/10

[polar ruin]

you refreshed that?

bruhge

[fervent bramble]

i know a guy that have coop coin problem

most of units are already maxed

so i never need to buy those

[hoary trench]

Even if not maxed, I only occasionally buy those

Because, I think the bond rank attributes basically suck lol

[fervent bramble]

pil and abnormal mostly

[magic kettle]

S2 only needs to be 9 for infinite ammo as a note

for those wanting to save skill mats

Only take S2 to 10 if you're the type to take S Anis burst to 10

[twilit vessel]

So which B2 ded after these maid?

[drifting current]

thanks as usual

[magic kettle]

Depends on boss, but Mari, bunnies, or Grave are most likely

[twilit ridge]

grave no way lol

[magic kettle]

Mari is first in line if no core/pierce is uneffective

Bunnies if pierce is strong

[dense plover]

Nihilister i think

[fervent bramble]

bunnies are flexible, i dont think they're going anywhere anytime soon

[magic kettle]

For most players, agree

For top scores, not so much

Bunnies have already been dropping in use in SR

[fervent bramble]

because we only look at top 50

that's bound to happen

their ceiling is low

[magic kettle]

Mhm

People without Mari will also not stop using bunnies, period

[fervent bramble]

also, the introduction of dolls deal a big blow to healers in general, we see more and more no heal just tanking comp

a big part of bunnies is survivability

but now, dolls and cores do that for you already

[magic kettle]

Yup

[fervent bramble]

leaving them with mediocre dmg buff

though this is strictly top 200 talking

[magic kettle]

I'm definitely not saying that anyone reset bunnies or anything.

I don't even think seamaids are worthwhile for casual players; too expensive considering collab and half-anni approaching

so I advised using top score meta as reference for thought

[fervent bramble]

yeah

and these 2 bitches cost me 280 pulls for 1 copy each

definitely left a sour taste

[sacred sentinel]

blanc still has a job in cindy's comp

but noire's FAT BROWN ASS is now unemployed

[royal berry]

r u gonna delete this messagE?

[tacit garnet]

depend on mood

and bot

[dry crater]

@royal berry why cant I get infinite ammo

Alice's ammo still drop

[tacit garnet]

ammo still loses on 3rd FB?

[polar ruin]

mast reload speed need to be build up

[dry crater]

3rd burst

I know what Im doing

I checked and it's 38.24% + 38.82% rld spd

Plus 29% from cube

107% smth

Ammo still drop

[hoary trench]

ShiftUp teasing us with snap reload

[polar ruin]

isn't the threshold 109-110%

[brittle rover]

[polar ruin]

i got infinite ammo on 4th burst

mast anchor mast anchor

with 10/10/10 loaner units

[hoary trench]

That's 33% of 12 or 13 full bursts, seems still really nice

There will still be the other 66%

[polar ruin]

4th burst onwards = infinite ammo

the buff list is too long

[dry crater]

107.35%

[royal berry]

Best Full auto Kraken comp on Anchor banner
Helm fills Anchor's Storage, big HP shield: https://fixvx.com/arcana0993/status/1887239876271386867
Mast instead of Crown also work according to the link, however, you need extra investment on mast for her to survive, similar investment you put on Anchor

[hoary trench]

Is that enough for infinite ammo? 107.35%?

[polar ruin]

pretty sure the threshold is 109-110%

[hoary trench]

Then what's sneakily giving you the extra 1.65%?

[royal berry]

its still dropping watching sky vid he said, but not significant?

[polar ruin]

it's shooting range test with 10/10/10 loaner units

with resil cube on alice

45.12 mast 40.04 anchor 29.69 resil
114.85% total

[hoary trench]

SSS tier Math defeats SS tier Math

[polar ruin]

so you need to reach 80-81% combined between mast 3 stacks and anchor

[hoary trench]

He's short of that somehow, as if he's at LV9 skills or something

[dense plover]

What makes fire and wind weak diff? Grave?

[hoary trench]

Or maybe he missed a stack - 3 bursts = 2 stacks?

Needed 4 bursts?

[royal berry]

hayde said ancho s2 10, mast s2 8

[hoary trench]

If that's fine tuned perfect reload speed for infinite ammo, that'll save quite a few skill mats

For Maid Anchor S2 LV10 and Maid Mast S2 LV8

[polar ruin]

this is because anchor's reload speed buff is after FB ends and after 3rd FB

so only 4th FB and onwards is full reload speed

[tacit garnet]

threshold is 109%

I don't recall who starts the propaganda of 107% but it's a hoax

when you have lower than 109% reload speed but you still try to shoot to0 fast, you will end up with 1s dead time

[royal berry]

@tacit garnet so this will hit that threshold or i have to read prydwen review?

[tacit garnet]

read prydwen review

[polar ruin]

:kaka:

[tacit garnet]

[royal berry]

@hoary trench u can just put a small note about this potential breakpoint in both threads maybe prevent unwanted book wasted

[hoary trench]

Yeah, editing as we speak

[tacit garnet]

if only you read the "However"

[polar ruin]

[tacit garnet]

we are writing

Helm's review

who is Anchor

a butter's brand?

[dense plover]

Wouldnt it be like 75%?
3 fbm rotations are not max stacked

Then the remaining 9-10 rotations are fully stacked

[hoary trench]

Yeah that was before I realized it only kicks in in 4th burst, oops

[tacit garnet]

eh isnt it

• 3 full burst: Gaining 109% reload speed? Cuz Mast is drunk every B1, not B2

[polar ruin]

anchor's s2 triggers after fb ends

[tacit garnet]

so by the time you reach 3rd FB, you have

oh

[polar ruin]

and need to stack 3 times for the reload speed buff

[tacit garnet]

damn, then it's all 3 FB without

Infinity

[polar ruin]

crown + priv still stonks

[hoary trench]

Updated, please check to see if the changed skill recommendations are acceptable in both threads

[polar ruin]

[tacit garnet]

not really

[sacred sentinel]

it's shit

[royal berry]

do the quick math as long as 2 s2 combined = 18, we good?

[tacit garnet]

I would leave it at 4 but the heal sounds nice on papah

[royal berry]

10 8 this 9 9 that

[hoary trench]

Maybe but idk the numbers

[royal berry]

10/10/10 or go home

[hoary trench]

7/10/7 is easy yes and most impact, if rather get most bang and accept lower dmg output elsewhere from kits

Infinite ammo Alice is the biggest bang possible tbh

[royal berry]

small mis-information, the fame already reach far and beyond

[hoary trench]

Even if it takes 4 full bursts

[tacit garnet]

what's reload cube lv 7?

[polar ruin]

29.69

[tacit garnet]

29.69 + 15.04 x 3 + 34.63

109.44%

[brittle rover]

[tacit garnet]

this is lv 7 Anchor

lv 10 mast

[hoary trench]

What you said makes sense if the reload speed % and growth are identical on both characters

Is it?

[royal berry]

https://dotgg.gg/nikke/characters/anchor-innocent-maid

[tacit garnet]

seems like we don't need to push anchor s2 to 10 either

[brittle rover]

is s2 lvl 9 on both essentially the same as s2 lvl 10 mast and lvl 8 anchor

[hoary trench]

Aha

[royal berry]

i know to use thi site to get the number at lv8 and lv9, but im brainfarted now i cant do math, actually i never do math

[polar ruin]

anchor s2 to 10 is for caster atk buff

[hoary trench]

LV8 + LV8 = infinite ammo Alice?

Editing

[tacit garnet]

both lv 8

[polar ruin]

not enough bro

[hoary trench]

Not editing

[royal berry]

both lv9

[polar ruin]

[tacit garnet]

both lv 9 is my first recommend

[brittle rover]

what about mast lvl 9 and anchor lvl 8

[polar ruin]

stop pushing it

[tacit garnet]

but somehow lv 10 Mast requires lv 7 Anchor

[royal berry]

see 9 + 9 = 18 , 10 + 8 = 18
thr golden 18

[tacit garnet]

scaling is fun

[polar ruin]

the scaling on mast is higher

coz x3

[tacit garnet]

10 + 7

[brittle rover]

10+7 is cheaper

is it also better in terms of buffs or nah

compared to 9+9

[tacit garnet]

10 + 7 or 9 + 8

9 Mast 8 Anchor

[hoary trench]

All edited to LV9+ + LV9+

[polar ruin]

for sbs, mast level 10 is better (+distribute damage)
for everyone else, anchor level 10 is better (caster atk buff)

[tacit garnet]

the perfect number is

17

10 + 7 or 9 + 8

but must priotize Mast > Anchor

[hoary trench]

Aha

[tacit garnet]

so, no 7 Mast 10 Anchor lol

[royal berry]

the squeeeeze

[tacit garnet]

yes

[hoary trench]

Oookay... the math squeeze is big, that's a lot of savings

[polar ruin]

just reload speed

[tacit garnet]

they want Tempura

[brittle rover]

which one is better buffs

[tacit garnet]

[polar ruin]

mast goes brrrr

anchor goes brrrr

[brittle rover]

since cost-wise they're basically the same

[hoary trench]

Editing to follow what Anyone said

[tacit garnet]

you don't

[polar ruin]

you can't

[tacit garnet]

just tank it

delay phase 2 as long as possible

[royal berry]

dont just listen to anyone on the internet

[tacit garnet]

listen to me

I'm anyone

[polar ruin]

crown helm

[tacit garnet]

Macho

[polar ruin]

i mean really

if you really wanna minmax kraken sure go try it

[tacit garnet]

dew it

[polar ruin]

maybe that +75% distribution damage on sbs is crazypants good

but you'd be lacking helm's burst gen and crown's offensive buffs in exchange

[tacit garnet]

just gen with infinite alisu

[polar ruin]

not fast enough

[royal berry]

anchor > mast standalone for auto kraken with helmT, big juicy shield

[tacit garnet]

you will lack the shield

so expect to eat a lot of dmg

[royal berry]

wym

[polar ruin]

in that vid, it didn't even use up the storage overheal first

[royal berry]

shiet keep healing

[polar ruin]

that's kinda bad

???

you can just.. slot them back in before you do campaign?

[hoary trench]

@royal berry @tacit garnet I finished editing, I hope for the last time I simplified the recommendations to match and eliminate confusion

[polar ruin]

[hoary trench]

And removed the "Imo" because it's no longer my own numbers

[royal berry]

but favoring Mast
with Mast s2 higher than Anchor s2

idk i dumb it down to my profound ape sentence

[hoary trench]

Edited it

I was secretly thinking I should've considered Discord literacy levels the first time around

Shortened the note a bit

I think most will understand the > sign

[tacit garnet]

now p3 her

[royal berry]

helmT s1 is competing with maids for skill books

[tacit garnet]

S1 is okay at lv 7 8

S2 is bigger issue

[hoary trench]

Thanks for helping me correct my initially misinformation post about skill priorities, it now looks better and like a professional wrote it

Also, big savings on skill mats if you run the minimum skills.

Sorry about anyone who already jumped at the initial information

[tacit garnet]

10/10/10 units x6

don't sorry me

I'm rich

[hoary trench]

Rich in name changes, too

[royal berry]

broke on skill books cant jump on any recomendation anyway

[tacit garnet]

time to change my name into Nobody

[hoary trench]

I hate nobody and fear nothing

[brittle rover]

full auto all water units relevant skills lvl 7 (except anchor s1 lvl 6)

helm gen so fast I squeezed in an entire extra sbs burst

[tacit garnet]

in shooting range, use Naga

[polar ruin]

poor sod missed out the dress helm skin

[brittle rover]

maids also had benefit that sbs gets carrot when off-burst

so that team actually had a bit of an advantage

[tacit garnet]

3 atk 4 ele

[brittle rover]

naga looking to be pretty close to helm actually, 2mil halfway

[tacit garnet]

can't relate

[brittle rover]

auto hurts alice way too much

and gen speed too

I think helm team got a full 10 sec extra sbs and 3 sec extra alice

eh sbs still did more with helm

unless sbs also misses core a lot in auto

[polar ruin]

most of sbs' damage comes from s1

which doesn't care about core

[brittle rover]

that's 7/7/4 helm and 10/10/7 naga

[hoary trench]

Edited the skill priority pins again, now the recommendation prefers saving mats

[royal berry]

Where is anchor?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002089691539046430/1336554185260404807/image0.gif

[brittle rover]

maids did worse than crown priv

[royal berry]

Thats not how you should act here

You suppose to glaze new unit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002089691539046430/1336554185260404807/image0.gif

[brittle rover]

well sbs did more dmg, so if manual and better invested maids prob win

also prob if I don't use rapipi there

kinda happy I got lazy and didn't hunt for 4th atk on rapipi

she doesn't steal carrot if no crown

[royal berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1266603319267430463/1336124911932018689/image.png?ex=67a54dcb&is=67a3fc4b&hm=b4beb268e5f67f33c9f2b7d542937326e876b2a7c53a24b8a9185f6bfe4e4ef0&

Thats my picture

[brittle rover]

oh god

rapipi steals carrot again if I max advise her

shit

altho sbs is SR10 and rapipi is SR12

so maybe I could tweak it with dolls

or just don't care about it

realistically are we ever gonna run rapipi with bscar alice in same team for raids

[hoary trench]

Carrot wars

[royal berry]

where are these initial lines on my dps

[fervent bramble]

i only know recently that the first time OL will always give lv11 lines

if you lucksack on 3 lines that's a lot of cp padding

[brittle rover]

meanwhile me:

[fervent bramble]

def instead of hit rate for me

first line too

[brittle rover]

at least def is usable for pvp

[faint kestrel]

So you have to manual and have them ultra invested for them to be as good as it was thought ?

[tacit garnet]

manual who

[royal berry]

they cost the same amount of skill book you put on crown-helm, arguably cost less in term of rocks cuz HelmT needs some good lines for more damage.
but then the only downside is they are not as universal as crown-helmt

they 2 banners aim for Raid players to optimize their score

[hoary trench]

Elysion Tower dominance though

[fervent bramble]

dwife anchor mast rapipi flex b3

elysion tower sound insane rn

[hoary trench]

Ingrid; How do you like them tactics?

[tacit garnet]

better than Tetra

[fervent bramble]

nah

[tacit garnet]

they are still with Arisu

[fervent bramble]

Misillis eat the dirt now

[twilit ruin]

Misillis went from the comfiest tower team to the bottom of the 4?

[brittle rover]

full manual wind-weak, water units skills at 7, except anchor s1 at 6

core hit rate I'd say is around 75%, couldn't stay on target all the time

kinda sucky with alice

also it feels like inf ammo isn't that important

I lose maybe 1 alice shot worth with my current s2 lvl 7s maid team

[tacit garnet]

cuz you are on auto

[brittle rover]

I'm manualing

I didn't do the unsync cursor thing that sweats do

[tacit garnet]

if you manual Alice, then infinite ammo vs non infinite is 1s delay EVERY reload

so if your Alice has low ammo too = rip

[brittle rover]

my maid team reload is very fast at 7+7, I lose maybe 1 shot, max 2

[tacit garnet]

how fast do you define it? #1331893588568707092 message

cuz this is 105% reload fast

mine has 24 ammo so I only lose 1s reload over 10s fb

if you have lower ammo and reload 2 times, that's 20% dmg loss

[brittle rover]

I have 3x tier 11 iirc

[tacit garnet]

then 1s

aka 10%

the only time you have 0 down time is when you have 40 ~ 44 ammo alice during FB

impossible lol

[brittle rover]

the reload is definitely not 1 second

I barely see the bar, lemme check again

[faint kestrel]

I'll probably have to ask for raid teams from now on but I just can't justify such specific units lol

Not like I have so many gems anyways I would.have to luck out on one and mileage the other one

[brittle rover]

it's nearly instant

I see a frame of the reload bar at halfway

[hoary trench]

Hmm

The main difference is with infinite ammo shooting, Alice can keep spamming shots endlessly unless the reload speed buffs drop

[fervent bramble]

if you cant afford them just skip, collab is coming

[hoary trench]

But if you’re okay with these small hiccups to reload very quickly, then that can be cheaper on skill mats

I don’t want to rewrite the skill priorities again though, I’ll just assume infinite ammo Alice is something most players want

There’s a raid skills cheatsheet already out with both sea maids and it has traditional skill numbers

Like 4/7/4 for Maid Anchor and 7/7/7 for Maid Mast

[brittle rover]

2 reloads during alice burst

I lose like what, 2 shots total with 2 reloads?

although it did take the 4th burst to get that fast

[hoary trench]

That’s very instant, hmm

4th burst is expected to be needed

Fine

In light of this video I updated the skill priorities again. Two sections, normal and infinite ammo reload speed priorities

[brittle rover]

[glacial shore]

How is wind 50/50??

Wind is like a 100/0

[brittle rover]

tbh for auto alice or slow alice players, I don't think there's actually gonna be a diff

since they can't even get a shot off during that split second reload

[glacial shore]

I'm pretty confident that for wind it's maid duo for SBS, no questions asked

[brittle rover]

for giga mald, bigger diff

[glacial shore]

Cuz it maximises SBS damage

Fire and electric I agree can be problematic

[brittle rover]

if they can beat bunnies in almost any content then they ain't leaving

can they beat bunnies when using ammo-hungry dps tho, I feel like with the reload they still can

[tacit garnet]

0.533s

[dense plover]

100% reload is infinitely better than whatever amount of ammo noir gives

[tacit garnet]

what's your total reload speed?

[brittle rover]

alice max reload cube + both maids lvl 7

[tacit garnet]

https://somewes.com/frame-count/

use this tool to count every frame (or just jump to 250 and 282)

[brittle rover]

I should be at 103.14% reload speed

idk if there's any rounding

[tacit garnet]

yeah, but at 105% reload speed it will be longer

[brittle rover]

I reload slower at 105%?

[tacit garnet]

as shown from my record

the rule is very simple

• The frame when you shoot your last bullet
• The frame when you shoot first bullet of the new mag

[hoary trench]

Reconciled the skill priority with the raid skill investments guide I saw. I now quit

[brittle rover]

does this mat h have perm core btw

did anyone stall through the boss yet to find out

[tacit garnet]

iirc, the reload goes like

0 => 100%: Highest to lowest

100% => 108.99%: Lowest to highest (may be)
109% => 0

[brittle rover]

[glacial shore]

Maids are better for sbs

Hence SBS gets maid duo

Total team damage sure but not SBS damage I'm pretty sure

[gusty lily]

isn’t total team damage the point

Why bother only boosting sbs if the whole team damage suffers

Unless your cracked boosted sbs can overcome the whole team dmg that was lost

[glacial shore]

The point is that crown can buff that much to other mega dps

[glacial shore]

SBS is crack boosted cuz of ele

It's wind weak raid

[gusty lily]

I guess if you’re aiming for top 200 this hyperinvested forced duo makes sense

3% cope plebs like me can live without em

[glacial shore]

If you want 3% this duo isn't even necessary to pull

[gusty lily]

That’s what I’m talking about

In a world without collab

I’d have goon pulled anchor to mlb

But sadge we don’t live in such a world

[wintry isle]

Skibidi

[rain topaz]

toilet

[brittle rover]

My sbs did 2.6 with crown helm and 2.2 with maids

[wintry isle]

Prygwen said macha good so I believe time , time to build helm

[brittle rover]

Although maids do get better relative to helm when maxed, idk if that's enough

My question is who to pair with crown helm instead

My water dps are mid, and don't wanna have too much water on a team due to needing water on others

Cindy or rapipi maybe?

[wintry isle]

Quency Escape queen

[brittle rover]

My quency kinda sucks...

Also might need water elsewhere

Helm, maids, doro?, xlud,

Who else

Priv would be on doro probably

Quency for 5th?

Not building xguillo or phantom

Leona seems cope, but maybe

Oh right tove

Ig I could pair crown with quency, she needs the gen too

[wintry isle]

Quency and maids cooking

[gusty lily]

It stink

https://tenor.com/view/10-gif-10454989151391905331

[fallen ember]

is OL gear needed for her?

[sterile vale]

for raw stats, yes. but don't reroll. upgrade to OL and keep

[fallen ember]

feet too?

[sterile vale]

no, feet not needed

[fallen ember]

[atomic gorge]

so what now

[fallen ember]

What now, what?

[atomic gorge]

is anchor a skip

[snow fractal]

Just tested the maids myself, I found both 7 on their S2 is enough reload speed to be virtually infinite ammo for my boomer hands on Alice

There’s a slight hiccup but not bad at all

[magic kettle]

Mast and Anchor are must-pulls for serious raiders, skip for casuals

They're job is essentially to lessen/eliminate DPS loss from moving SBS from Crown, allowing Crown to have freedom to support the feature element

They won't bully Crown out of practically any other part of the game

Basically you get an SBS-limited Crown for the cost of two Crowns

[polar ruin]

now we can go b1 cdr/crown/rapipi/b3/off burst thelm as t1 team
and then macho/alice/sbs/b1 cdr that matches required element qte clear as t2-t3

[fervent bramble]

classic first roll right here

[royal berry]

[ripe plinth]

is she good for this sr?

i need answers

[royal berry]

SR is to sell banner nikkes so the maids are definitely good this SR, its just matter of how good.
A rapi owner would have more edge than non-rapi owner in rapi tailored SR
But a Quency owner wouldnt have rhat much edge comparing to quencyless

[fervent bramble]

seamaids are here to stay

they're too good together

[ripe plinth]

wdym edge?

[ripe plinth]

demn, should i skip them for EVA?

[fervent bramble]

how far are you into the game ?

[ripe plinth]

my pure instincts tells me to save for EVA

[fervent bramble]

if you're not a competitive SR player, then you can skip them

you dont lose much

[ripe plinth]

fair

[ripe plinth]

chapter 20

[fervent bramble]

skipping is what i'd advise

saving for true limited (collab)

[royal berry]

Advantage

[tacit garnet]

try to tank phase 2 shock wave after QTE

nvm

[copper ingot]

5/9/6 mast + 4/8/4 anchor vs other teams. 1/4/4 volume btw

my 2 cents either asuka pirata or rei alternativa is going to be a dist dmg unit like sbs

[royal berry]

https://tenor.com/view/pacific-rim-you-keep-talking-listening-keep-talking-gif-11959377

[copper ingot]

if it isn't a rem situation for this duo, it would be a mast/2b situation instead

the pattern is there

for the rest you just need to believe(huff some copium)

[royal berry]

Wym Anchor become Rem?

[rain topaz]

Guys rem is a ded unit

[vivid tide]

Damn very nice this duo

Great dmg too

[clever cargo]

Hi, just to confirm something, is there any use for mana now? At least to auto S7 kraken?

Or pulling her was a waste of gems?

[heady condor]

Kraken S7 on mobile hasn't been easier since she was introduced. To be able to do the full auto S7 kraken you need some beefy SR15 units

[desert sun]

pvp

[wintry isle]

Or maids 😈

[ashen wharf]

hmm need 10 10 10 compareison

[ashen wharf]

Naga cant tank

my Alice at core 2 tanked tho

I guess you need core 1/2 on pilgrims

[zinc onyx]

rhh is going to need more than that

or def lines on ol

[royal berry]

Lots of full auto options now, most require specific investment, but have to swap cube and get def lines are big no no

Just manual abit for qte and call it a day

[zinc onyx]

the one with crown noah doesnt need cube swaps

maids one also no need

tbh more cores mean less requirement

[wintry isle]

So maids are strong but for poor f2p it's better to invest into helm treasure and crown
And naga still the best for campaign

[royal berry]

Yep

[vestal junco]

helm can be better if you’re using a team with no burst gen

like b1 rapi and crown

if you’re not using rh/alice you’ll have no burst gen

[royal berry]

he leveled it the wrong way

actually a good vid for maids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDVHK5xzOnc

[frosty bramble]

it's not wrong

[royal berry]

its "wrong" in a sense of the order we put here, have he went the other way he wouldnt get that pseudo, but he has his reason i guess

its not that serious though, cuz most people wont be able to achieve that fast click to get all the reload speed anyway

[hoary trench]

At least this game is forgiving, we don't need perfect characters and perfect gaming

That and we're now in total overkill mode for campaign, the Raptures have no chance

Liliweiss banner is going to come out and there'll be nothing left to kill for Liliweiss

[rain topaz]

[wintry isle]

Campaign hard

[rain topaz]

Expensive duo

Bunnies and tiga wasn't that expensive

[wintry isle]

And they were usable in the campaign

Or technically still are

[hoary trench]

Naga tends toward 7/7/7 and 10/10/10, just like MMast, so I think similar in cost.

Tia on the other hand is 7/4/4 on the cheap or 10/4/4... MAnchor is 4/7/4 on the cheap and doesn't need more if you focus on MMast

So I wonder if the expense is just in our heads

I guess the fact Tia and Naga doesn't really need OLs

While MMast and MManchor would like it for caster's atk buffing from raw gear leveling (if the slot has atk, RIP boots)

But I feel like that's got to be pretty small gains in atk?

[foggy juniper]

hello, just wondering, does the infinite ammo trick still work if both mast and anchor have s2 at 10? or do you always have to keep anchor's s2 1 step below mast?

[hoary trench]

It works, was just a minimum. There are also players that get the feel of infinite ammo at lower reload speeds, but that might have more to do with having poorer spam shooting (e.g., "skill issue")

This also means that by default all players with omni-10 skills on MMast and MAnchor already enjoy this effect

[glacial shore]

I think 777 anchor is fine

I don't think it's worth it to push anchor burst to 10

For 30% atk

And that too casters atk

That's 25%, actually lower cuz lower dupes in her

[tacit garnet]

787

[glacial shore]

Why 8 on s2

[glacial shore]

17 needed

Do 10+7

?

[tacit garnet]

What costs more books?

10+7 or 9+8

[glacial shore]

Except that mast's S2 is actually worth

Oh wait it's just distributed damage

I thought it had atk buff as well

Damn man these 2 units are expensive

[rain topaz]

You really want 10 all on mast

[ashen wharf]

Both level 9 better than 10 and 7

There is a numerical backup for this

Level 9 is cheaper than 8 and 10

In terms of blue books

But prolly u get fucked on gold mats anyways

So im resetting Grave soon

[hoary trench]

I went from despairing that I wouldn't have enough to omni-10 both MMast and MMAnchor, to being happy that I can make do with much less than I thought

Skill book savings

[royal berry]

ok listen

just 10 10 both

dont worry about book

[wicked shard]

so, how to level their skill 2 ?
10-7 ? 9-8 ?

[hoary trench]

9-8 for the most skill book savings

Or if you're definitely 10/10/10ing MMast, just leave MAnchor at 4/7/4, maybe 7/7/4

One reason for preferring MMast is when you burst BScarlet, it'll be with MMast's burst from B2, and not MAnchor's

MAnchor is helping BS Scarlet's burst with:

• Allowing MMast to keep 3 stacks of Drunken
• MAnchor S1 activating on any Full Burst
• MAnchor S2 activating "after Full Burst ends".

Alice only gets mostly S2 reload speed and a bunch of weak caster’s ATK based on 0LB MAnchor

These crumbs Alice gets is likely why I saw raid skill investment recommend the unexpectedly cheap 4/7/4 MAnchor. I copied it

[rain topaz]

[hoary trench]

Edited to be more scary voices

[royal berry]

dont eww me especially u

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002089691539046430/1336554185260404807/image0.gif

[crisp canopy]

Hello! What OL for anchor?

[polar ruin]

doesn’t really matter. ele atk ammo all good. charge speed if you want some pvp spice.

crits have potential because mast buffs crit rate.

but it’s all reaching

[magic kettle]

Just use 4 rocks on them for OL then spend the rest on SBS

Fine-tuning anything other than ammo on them is not a great idea

(or save rocks for the inevitable wind meta NGE units)

[crisp canopy]

Thank you!

[tough cove]

Hmm, so what is a macho SBS comp for Kraken AI?

Rapipi/Mast/Anchor/SBS/SSAkura?

[zinc onyx]

Can replace ssakura with alice

Not mana coz of buff steal

[spiral verge]

What's the skill priority between both Anchor and Mast if you're limited by skill mats?

[magic kettle]

Crown > Mast

[tough cove]

I mean AFK wise, you don't hit core anyway

[magic kettle]

Yes, afk-wise

[tough cove]

ain't macho better for non-core?

[magic kettle]

What does core have to do with Crown?

Anchor/Crown > Mast/Anchor

Mast/Anchor is for SR where Crown will be in another team

Anchor doesn't need Mast

[wintry isle]

Don't tell me anchor/helm treasure actually better than anchor/mast

[polar ruin]

they're different buffs. for purpose of multiple team setup like UR or SR, you don't have to make them fight for each other

and if you run anchor/helm, who's gonna be the other b2

[tough cove]

Wait, you can cuck... pair Anchor with Crown?!

[polar ruin]

crown? ofc crown/anchor/helm will be way better than mast/anchor

crown is so good, you can just use her to cuck everyone

she already cucked tia

[magic kettle]

Anchor has no reliance on Mast, and Crown gives better reload speed

Only B2 that stands a chance against Crown is Grave vs fire-weak

[polar ruin]

grave can give crown some serious competition if the content doesn't require crown's defensive capabilities, doesn't matter what element
that burst fill is already so good.

[tough cove]

Hmm, interesting.

[polar ruin]

and in fire weak, i actually think grave is not even that good since all fire dps wants that reload speed.

[magic kettle]

Just get more ammo rolls

Grave deals too much personal damage for Crown to win out

[zinc onyx]

Macho/sbs/helmt/rhh or anchor/crown/sbs/helmt/rhh

U can maybe also try anchor/crown/sbs/alice/rhh but u will have very slow gen burst then rockets will snipe

Tbh fk the maids best is still prob crown/sbs/helmt/rhh/noah

[wintry isle]

Where the heck did noah come from

[tacit garnet]

Eden?

[wintry isle]

Sakura summer, naga, mana and now all of sudden noah is best flex?

[royal berry]

Anchor looks better, synergy with HelmT and perma hp shield

U will eventually x/x/10 anchor and that shield is juicy, reduce damage reduction requirements from dolls alot

[tough cove]

We cook Kraken

[zinc onyx]

It is for full auto kraken stage 7, noah will aggro rockets and reduce boss atk so it lower defense req of other nikkes

[magic kettle]

Noah also provides DR for team iirc

[royal berry]

Yea thats why noah was the initial pick for cheese

But anchor gives more dps

And this hp shield last 25s, basically shield entire game, almost 50% more hp for everyone

[lime tangle]

should i pull?

[royal berry]

Pull if competitive raider (both UR and SR)

Skip if casual player

[tough cove]

You should have warned me before I spent 10 pulls and got Anchor.

[vestal junco]

boo hoo ten pulls

[royal berry]

I sincerely apologize for my grave mistake, i hereby resign from my post

Butch u think like that

[rain topaz]

momo imo even casuals have to pull