#[Mana] New Unit Megathread
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i'd say hold off any investments especially if skill mat stash is running dry
unless you really need that comfortable s7 kraken
Just 1/7/1 Mana
1/10/1 if u want to squeeze extra dps for sbs
Put 4 rocks on Mana to test initial rolls, if they look mighty fine for dps
Go 7/10/7 and maybe 10/10/10 if she is hot
When you guys talking about Auto Kraken AI, does it mean just let skill auto burst and manually aim at core?
or basically afk the whole thing?
She is hot
Full auto no mouse control
Most of time you will need to pay attention to Qte, you can partially ignore tentacles
To full auto hand off you need stacked OL to push s7 before he disappears
I'm at 34-23...
Rapipi in B1?
No Rhb1
No rapipi
Or
Crown-SBS-Rapipi-Rhb1-deife but its worse
This one has a failsafe too
In case your finger is slow and 1 dies
This script spawn 3 balls at beginning with 2 elites then at the end of burst 1 it will spawn 2 more balls and boss
You should use Rapipi B1, she lower HP of mobs, and SBS kill them faster => more dps
Mana b3 rh also b1
If i ise rapipi she will be b3
Her aoe sometime trigger the balls
Dont like it when it doesnt kill as b1
Damn
Alice burst could work if you quickly tap them
Most of time its better for them to be cleaved by off burst sbs
yeah but trust me, many stages, you don't have enough sbs for that
either sbs to kill trash mobs, or kill volleyballs
yeah, 33 and 34 volleyball is mostly just timing SBS burst to clear them
So you have 2 options to pair with sbs to maximize her there
Alice or
Mana
If not pairing with them and you have balls problem, Ein, Rapipi also other good b3
Only Alice and Mana can help sbs cleave when she off burst
Team : Crown RH Liter Naga SBS
And mana comes with a failsafe, so…another option just in case your initial overloads on her look good
The stage is a definition of 'I love bombs"
Some of these stages reappear in tower if you want to retry 
How’s the need/want worth of her at this time?
I had the opportunity to experience Mana revive when Noir died quite clearly vs Kraken
It's literally instant and sudden.. game yanked my currently selected character over to somebody else (Mana, so went left of the dead character) and I was confused as hell because Noir looked alive and still shooting (because Mana had just as instantly revived her)
Took me a few seconds to realize what happened
So it works in PvE, I guess, just real abrupt if you're controlling the Nikke at the time (but that's the same as a sudden death anyway)
Her burst even create a whole window crashing onto the target
Quite attention to detail, definitely not filler 
full auto
700ml left need to fix mana and sbs atk line
on pc only 
wait i should not let noah burst
its her damage taken s1 helps me survive (turned out worse). Also realized i cucked sbs with noah
Managed to reach s7 with this method (full auto except ele shield qte) on mobile lol
Altho its not consistent
mana's burst gen is trash tier
auto kraken with mana is difficult with helm treasure s2 it is way easier
https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1i3p854/full_auto_kraken_stage_7_ft_helm_treasure_phase_2/
no random death and stuff
for now u can manual element qte if u get one shot
forget mana, i regret building her go with helm treasure ^
How good is separating Alice and SBS in raids actually? It doesn't seem that great outside of fire and wind weak raids
Actually only seems really relevant in fire weak
You can move Alice to a pierce dedicated team with Mari or Grave and another pierce B3
That's probably the #1 benefit
In wind weak it'll be good because Mana deals decent damage / is fairly garbage without SBS
In fire weak it'll be good because can give Alice a dedicated pierce team which isn't wasted on SBS.
Outside those two yeah no point I think
Core damage too, e.g. from JKs, good for Alice but not so much for SBS
It still means you can run Alice with Grave/Mari in any element but the benefits are smaller than in relevant elements
In other elements I think Mana's damage just won't be enough
E.g. against water, Alice/SBS combo is valid because both do strong neutral damage
Mana's neutral is......
Dwife also a support who Alice likes but SBS doesn't
Mana frees Alice from her duty as SBS support to become a pure DPS again
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i really love Mana
I want MLB her, but with collab so close...
Can't skip it when they're limited and probably Meta for Raid
After asuka pierce core hit 100% and core dmg buff... Yes
I dont. No longer have to sit down on a pc with alice to finish dailies.
Can just semi auto it anywhere on my phone now
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@final wigeon pin this if possible
That video should answer 90% of the questions mana gets
They were initially *maid-for-*this channel
Hi
Who has that metal sigma logo
The diagram
@final wigeon can u ask the guy if we can use it
Mobile phone cannot search
Im bricked
@oak robin
This?
What the hell is metal sigma
It's probably this
Cnydo can we use your image for prydwen
σ = sigma
ie her skill 2
Maybe @oak robin means this?
@spice flume may we
Yes
Hail Microsoft paint
You guys should make a cleaner version pic tho

we lazy
Graphic design is my passion 
That's how we do it in xiv
got tools and all then we bust out the mspaint
Green is metal sigma

Ig draw 3 hexagons then erase each part is the most clean way
All right 🫡
But Kelvin there is an art in handdrawing
Snake isnt physics degree btw
confirmed
he doesnt know what is metal sigma
one major down
I will try to do something once I am home
I agree with you on this 
clean 

Cs buff is twice, one of them should be metal ơ right?
Yeah Metal ơ
All right this one has the correct word on the Metal ơ instead of the duplicated CS Buff text.

Flip mana and sbs

Mana shouldn't have sigma buff during her own burst
It's correct
At least it's not a flow chart
Cmon man low jab

Where's the flowchart


It isn't
dumb ape
Metal sigma first happens when mana burst ends
And metal sigma ends when full burst starts
Hey
Remove the green when SBS b3 starts
Do you need the diagram btw or is it just for show 😭
This looks fine
Nah I was taught various programs during my bachelor, but I didn't specialize in these ones.
I just have them thanks to my student account currently.
But yeah I should be ashamed of myself. 
U type so slow haiya
So ure Masters now?
Indeed
What major
Programing, don't ask me how it's going. 
Hows it going
I didnt know programmers type so slowly
Shud be the fastest typers
Smh
120wpm
At least if on pc
Not only more comfortable than using Alice, maybe it can surpass her team if my Mana already full build (Only head with OL Gear, 4/7/4)
Using Alice team max 3.6 or 3.5 for me
Finally, no need to click click with Alice everyday
Hmm i feel like now Shift Up doing hoyoverse move
I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I hope you mean they're releasing a turn based RPG of Nikke 
I mean, they're always creating a problem in their game mechanic. Then offering solution to that mechanic by releasing new character to make the gameplay more comfortable.
Most of them do that, it just varies by how egregiously obvious it is
Like a boss battle where if you didn't bring wind element and RL, you can't win - all other elements and weapon types perform poorly
IM FEELING THIS
I don't think such a fight actually exists, but it's an example of how they can do it in Nikke 
Yeah, but Genshin infamous for that with their locked QoL behind gacha character
Wind-weak Volleyballs 
Shift up right now too move toward that path, with like you mentioned
Oh, right, Mirror Container. Was looking for that in my scattered memories (heavy bias toward Electric Sniper and a certain summer issue Electric Supporter)
Well at least Nikke is a competitive game, so maybe it's kind of "acceptable" they do that (beside, you guarantee to get Meta character with how much currency they gave)
The last time i pay for this game is like when Half anniv with Dorothy, and i only missing these 3.
they did it the moment they introduce ele qte to bosses and then releasing units that work well with that month’s solo raid
and then with shotgun team
I know
I just realize this after comfortably using Mana for Kraken XD
Lol, even though i struggle in Solo Raid without Rouge back then
Gacha game being gacha game i guess, no wonder some people refuse to touch it
Yeah because it's a predator developer approach to satisfying the players, I mean many knew it though maybe it wasn't spelled out
It's an additional element to making good games, there is now an element of "how do we milk more money out of the players once they're hooked on the game?"

Champion Arena, here we go

That's not same damage 
4.5 = 4.6

HOW DARE U

spending rocks on a unit 1 meter away from bench
lol, people said that when Rouge came out
Noir still strong 
Noir used more than X Lud and Modernia 
And S Anis

as a support 
A support that's still an Attacker 
If you're malding for highest possible damage, she's part of that 
If only there is a huge meat bag in front of her

I need to ol her shoe, maybe a whole set atk ed ammo there
@oak robin why don't you use kelvinpizza's pic
I think mine is wrong because metal sigma disappears when fb
Forgot to change

Why are you guys so confused on pvp
She's literally reviving units
It's not like xAnne and Rapunzel are placed D tier
Mana doesn't even need to burst
Of course, my wife must be very strong
Mama Mia… that MLB lobby screen panty shot!
The pantyshot is a reward from her event, not from MLB btw.
What is her mlb screen
^^
Prydwen make Mana sad because he skip her event
put her in the wishlist later on
yeah, she is my waifu
but somehow I got Crown dupe
and only got Mana after 100 pulls
scam

メンタル復活して最初に出すポストこれ?感すごいけど
アリーナのマナについてまとめました
シンプルに言うといらないです
イカ狩りの皆さんは引いてください https://t.co/hcL2QvyMVA
I'm actually like her MLB more.
Because well, when you work in IT, want to go home soon and suddenly an error pop up.
It scare the shit out of you.
funny revive bug is back
Long live lazy Kraken teams! 
I was more confident this time and allowed Kraken to slap me around. I was rewarded with ez brainless phase 7 Kraken and 4 rocks
No skills past 7, no OLs, only 0LB, and still had 35 seconds to spare
Maybe I should just freeze Mana there and see what happens in raiding scene
Autolike manual. What I did:
Turned off auto
Control Noir
Press stylus on Kraken’s head (with aim assist) and wait
The three QTE rings appeared along with code barrier, I casually destroyed 2 and waited for third to be 25% remaining duration. Then destroyed it as well.
Resume pressing stylus on Kraken’s head.
Reach phase 7 and commit premature ascension to Heaven.
Battle time: 2:25.
I never saw the middle giant QTE with fakeout rings, it was all still in boss first half
can you survive the big qte attack?
Idk and I didn’t think I can survive failing the code barrier QTE either, I should try in mock and find out though. if I can, then I can ignore it too
logging in to do that
You definitely need at least sr15 dolls and level 7 tempering cube for that
phase 6 tentacle slap leaves my team with 15% hp or something
additional def mod lnes or dupes are also necessary for attackers
It’s running now, true full auto this time
Yeah, nope
Failing the code barrier QTE killed 3 of the team
Crown cheated with invincible though
And I’m only just about 2b, no way am I going to limp to phase 7 (3b+) with 2 alive
Yea, I've been testing that full auto team posted on helm's thread
1:24 battle time as well, I think most of us definitely have to at least flick away the code barrier QTE
Even if wanting to full auto
Definitely high requirement and still can get occasionally yucky with some weird targeting rng that may screw up that big qte attack
that big qte attack can crit?
no somehow the previous missile attack must have screwed up my units hp
then again, I'm not encountering that anymore so I dunno what happened really
speak of the devil, just had that missile attack damaged helm and she died from the qte attack because of that
Yeah, missile RNG is the only problem with auto Kraken
This comp actually works much better for me:
Helm/Rapipi/SBS/Crown/Alice
Not maining Helm slows down the burst cycle a bit (by 5 seconds at the end of the stage roughly)
But the burst coincides so well with the missiles, I actually managed to get a 100% success rate (out of 15 tries)
Do keep in mind, this will result in SBS taking a bit more damage because SBS is not receiving the defense buff during the big QTE attack
also my Helm s1 = 5
so not sure if this will screw up the burst cycle if I increase s1 to say 10
also your overall damage will be lowered a bit (around 100k for me)
Does Alice and Mana charge time reduction stacks together?
Or highest buff take over?
Alice would take Mana's buff
So for SBS, at least, they can't
I imagine they'd stack otherwise
Does Alice selfbuff with the same charge speed gain? I've long forgotten this
If so then Alice + Mana would be the one time it can be forced to always stack
But the benefits are nonexistent since when Alice bursts, she's already 100%+ charge speed... probably?
At least if she's got the right OL effects
Maybe a newer commander that didn't OL Alice yet but why this comp 
Yeah, I know that already but thank.
At skill 2 Lv 7, does Mana already buff charge time better than Alice 10/10/10?
I heard no, you need higher (like 9?)
But unless you're going for a Kraken kill, there's no need to get higher Mana S2 if your team is already sufficient to reach phase 7
I think 9 ties Alice and 10 beats Alice
would mana work better if she is b1 or b2?
thx for testing, pretty good stuff. if it fails u will still get to stage 6 right?
2% less chance isnt the end of the world, could also just retry for the remaining 2, it is auto anyway
the new comp hasn't failed me yet
Naga would be better than an uninvested Noir for kraken?
Answer is No, burst gen isn't enough
Burst 3 Mana is the right call
Thank you 
Playing this comp while playing my Alice I actually gen faster than my rapi cdr consistently
And it runs a decent cycle so extra gen shouldn't matter
the main difference between helm and naga with sbs/alice bursting is that helm doesnt randomly die to light missiles for me
I ran that comp so everyone could survive the big qte attack with enough investments
You mean are you maining Alice while auto-ing Kraken or something?
oh that comp is full auto for me
complete afk
manualing Alice would obviously throw the whole planned cycle off
how good is your mana? @final wigeon
He pulled mana?
Btw what’re rec skill levels of mana
I don’t see in pins

Skill recommendation:
s1: lv1
s2: lv10 (instantly 7-10 to pair with sbs)
Burst: lv1
S1 and burst are personal damage, only level up once OLs are good enough and she start using burst. Level up S1 abit if the healing is not sufficient
Thanks bre
am I bricked if I leveld s1 and burst to 4

i think he skips but we have someone's last words here
Frank she's must pull for us

Mast must pull, anchor mast pul, Eva must pull
What does skip mean guys?

Mana 4/7/4 is fine if you just want to lug around a cheapo invested character and assuming you aren't choking on lacking blue mats
I did 7/7/7 and I guess because I treat purples a bit cheaply from playing for 2+ years 
I think I want skill resets soon 
Remember I one tapped. Still rapipi less tho

just to confirm, mana's cs buff on sbs doesn't affect the cs OL amount that sbs needs for 18-20 shots breakpoints?
it's the same as alice?
Alice gives 0.175 charge time while mana gives 0.18, doesn't seem significant enough to make OL lines drastically different
0.005 ct for sbs would be around 1.6%?
+4.9% Charge Speed: 18 hits
+11% Charge Speed : 19 hits
+20% Charge Speed : 20 hits
So , just remove 1.6% to all those thresholds 
0,16%
so HP Potency is better for healers than going for Vigor huh 
being
again HP potency is affected with lifesteal right? (Yuni S1, Helm Burst, etc.)
i need c7


Please don't kill me 
Sir what is this sync 300 damage
Nothing, just....kitchens burned... 
Do you want me to bring u an extinguisher
The flame was so hot, the chef was cooked
Mana simply will not drop. Should I keep trying or just gold ticket her and move on?
Or ignore entirely?
She seems strong.
Don’t ticket Mana, just wishlist her. It sucks to miss on her because of bad luck with pulls, but you’re bound to take a bigger hit later on being down these 200 gold mileage
Fair, alright. When do these units show up to be wishlistable? I still don't see RHRapi.
I heard Rapi Hood will be in standard pool by end of month, but with OverSpec rules, she’ll show up in Pilgrim/OverSpec wishlist and be part of the 0.50% reserved pool for Pilgrims. So basically, 0.10% odds you pull her in standard banner after wishlisting Rapi Hood
Alright. Then patience it is. Thanks so much.
Np, and yeah I think Mana will also join the pool at the same time
I’m waiting for it too 
New characters are added to wishlist when there's an app update. Collab event should do it
👀 You mean to say, still no Rapi Hood even by Feb 6?
Nothing in patch notes, right? And since we have datamine info about next patch, it shouldn't be an app update
Last year we had 3-4 units in purgatory at once
Limbo vs Purgatory, Purgatory sounds like punishment
Alright, guess Rapi Hood dupes luck test will wait for EVA collab 
Purgatory considering it was Ade, Moran, Elegg, and M Priv 
M Priv at least got revived by B Soda's release
But the other three (ignoring PvP)?
Ok invested a little in mana 4/7/4 and now I can S7 easily on mobile by piloting her, no need to wait until I am home anymore 
Another Mana Cult Convert 
She is almost gone and I didn't get her
Should i milage her
I tentatively say that Mana isn't worth gold mileage or desperation buying of gems to pull with
That qualifier's in case new Nikkes make me eat my foot for saying this 
how invested does she have to be to be relevant in kraken ? still havent gotten around building her lmao
also the team is the same but swap her for alice right
Just S2 to seven honestly
Not necessary if your SBS is stacked enough
Mana's job is just to be comfier Alice
Neither deal much damage on auto 
yup , comfy as heck and I can break thru stage 7 now if I actually try
hope I can do the same in phone today
I actually wasted 100 rocks on sbs due to this and managed to get the 2 element lines Iw as missing keeping the rest and also getting my cs line to actual useful value lol
is she supposed to burst if burst is level 1 and the other b3 is noir tho
Yeah, you want her to burst still. Noir just there for extra core hits and burst gen
Noir's burst is practically useless in that comp 
but the level 1 burst doesnt do much no ? 🤔
The point is how it interacts with her self-buffs
If she doesn't burst, her burst gen buff won't get re-applied
ah I didnt read her kit then lol
Yay ,level 7 too in phone and full chill
Maybe mass rocking sbs had something to do more than mana but mana contributes to not having to tryhard on phone lol
And way cheaper than I was expecting
Now I want to see the afk team once I get helm max
The OL lines of SBS definitely make the biggest impact
My alt despite having significantly less cores on units can deal 500+ mil more than my main vs Kraken just cuz of SBS rolls
With helm ?
Yep, it was only one run but it seems like it should be consistent.. I'll do a few more.
Noah, BS Scarlet, Helm treasure p2, Rapi Hood, Crown
Noah died to the code barrier QTE, but that was okay. Rest of team lived (100% def up team buff from Noah's burst helped)
Yeah I heard she's kinda needed
Though for others to replicate this might be hard, need enough damage
Otherwise Kraken goes into the major transition QTE before phase 7 and ends your autoafk run
For me, team's in phase 5 when code barrier QTE smashes
Wow, Noah lived this time 👀
20s mark boss doing pre-major QTE spray
10s I reach phase 7
6s boss sinks
4 seconds to spare, cutting it close
With Helm treasure phase 2 and only lvl 4 burst
Mana benched
Noah laughing
Super reliable, no failures to reach phase 7, ran a lot of mocks while I was yapping around on Discord
Yea this team much better to afk kraken, no need to even change cube, can just keep resil/bas on them
Need a very good sbs or helmt3 to reliabe hit stage 7 tho
For me it hit 10 of out 15 times stage 7
5 times it was like 50-100 mil dmg short of stage 7
No random death coz noah will aggro missiles, even if she dies later no probleem coz it will be very late
Same for me im going to reset mana when u can do it
This is why I only levelled Mana on alt 
Mana, SBS and SSakura are super reliable though. You only mess up from missing the QTEs because you’re lazy.
Maybe I don’t need it to be fully afk on mobile, but it is exceptionally consistent.
You won’t need a perfect SBS either.
ofc everthing is consistent if u going to manual play it, but that teams goal is to consistent clear fully afk
with mana and ssakura u need like super high req on all nikkes to survive qte
Oh, I thought the AFK Kraken team was still on "you have to manual the QTE" stage of their work.
But mobile is hard enough of a debuff.
Most are still going to require “flicking the QTE” to win but there are now two proven ways to true autoafk it all
Just means after a FBM where she used her burst skill.
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