[Flora] New Unit Megathread

[amber hemlock]

Outside of water-weak raids, it's Doro getting replaced

[plain dove]

she not replaced only bc there are 5 teams

dolla will get replaced bc at best she's used on a single team

[amber hemlock]

Yes. Liter, Rouge, DKW, Volume, Tove

[plain dove]

idk anyone who uses dolla and shelm in the same raid

[amber hemlock]

[plain dove]

but with the viable non-cdr b1 options they're adding recently, b2 cdr niche could open up again

[amber hemlock]

In water-weak raids, Volume will vanish cuz Doro steals the spotlight.
In iron-weak raids, both Doro and Volume will vanished cuz S Helm takes the spotlight (Zwei/Miranda hopping in for SW comp)

But for fire-, wind-, and electric-weak raids, there's no place for Doro anymore cuz Volume is just more flexible

Dolla pretty much gone entirely now

[rare vapor]

Never reset doro

[amber hemlock]

Never said to reset She's still critical for water-weak raids

[plain dove]

eh she can do her job fine as just cdr

I ain't OLing doro with ele just for her to do good dmg

problem is she needs another unit just to have proper cdr

[amber hemlock]

Yup

[rare vapor]

LOL rh b1

[ripe star]

Remember the funny hour when the actual crown kit was released with 40s cd and everyone was making memes?

https://tenor.com/view/sumire-yoshizawa-sumire-kasumi-kasumi-yoshizawa-persona-5-gif-5093524295216581380

Well it’s that now but permanent

[tall python]

wasnt she supposed to be out like right now?

[dense nebula]

Maintenance first, young grasshopper

[rare vapor]

Another cultural insult added to the list

[charred hazel]

40 secs burst are only worth if it’s valuable for pvp tbh

Too bad she’s MG

[void galleon]

When they will stop doing bad designs for regular nikkes man...
I know we just got Rouge but common

I meant

kit designs

oops

[charred hazel]

Half the things that’s are bad in missiles is Syuen’s fault

[void galleon]

Syuen burnt the kitchen

Cant cook no mo

[charred hazel]

This is the perfect time for Ingrid to up her game

Plz release a Elysion meta duo

[void galleon]

Please spam Elysion for the whole 2025

[austere marsh]

Absolute alts plz

[next valley]

On Exia, I still think she could have a future for her. As a solution to her slow stack build up and losses (manual+auto) as stronger B2 cdr release.

As for PvP, my thinking is she could cook with someone like Nero, who cares for consistent proc healing; as flora heals 1% caster max HP every second to allies immediately adjacent to her (Rouge mechanic but not labeled) on top of an HP restore 4% X5 thats also always on.

Everyone else only gets the shield when the adjacent Nikke trigger it, but otherwise the healing is permanently up.

RL burst gen thresholds have softened with the release of a few new batteries, so outside of MG feeding Jackal (who can't be everywhere) a realistic 3, 3.5 RL core with Ein as the carry could be a decent team 4/5 for when the ever delayed Arena comes out.

[amber hemlock]

Nero will have to be tested

I'm worried that the per second heal counts as a single heal instance that's permanent throughout the battle

Need to see if it counts as an applied buff or if it's split instances of healing

[shy gazelle]

Whether she is good or not, why do they keep giving us Electric units? I still haven't recovered on electric skill books.

[amber hemlock]

She's purple, so it's the law

[shy gazelle]

I can easily keep or recover the others up above 4k books. Electric has been stuck at or below 2k

Maybe I'm just unlucky in the store.

[rare vapor]

Buy the selection box

[shy gazelle]

From the arena store? I have been. Even with the extra 25 a day, electric is still barely at 2k from all these electric units.

I think I've gotten the electric books as one of the three selections twice in 3 weeks.

[hexed sundial]

does her shield work like Centi's where it's team wide, or is like Crown's where it's individual?

[next valley]

I'd be curious on the results if you do end up testing!

[queen arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fine-addition-my-collection-gif-15791591638208860670

[junior orchid]

Someone is cooking

[past plank]

is flora easy skip?

[rare vapor]

Harran Scarlet

this man is a certified archeologist

[stark falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebobsquarepants-chocolate-gif-19415198

[rare vapor]

Interesting Cooks:

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doomposter: 👇

[tall python]

best cook till now:

#1308733155704045631 message

[dense nebula]

Best cook is:

Flora grows psychedelics and hallucinogens in her garden.

[plain dove]

the scarlet is interesting cook but when would you ever do that realistically

breaking apart tiga in raid, to give perma shields that you don't need if you got naga anyway

[plain dove]

to buff core dmg for a dps that barely core hits

oh and scarlet doesn't benefit from true dmg at all

also

correct me if I'm wrong

but you need a stack of the buff in the first place to increase stack with flora

harran needs to kill an enemy first before flora stack increase does anything

ok so harran kills the boss

fight's over

in challenge that stack counter is staying 0 for 95% of SRs

if a campaign boss with adds, ok you use cindy instead, fight's over

I only see 2 viable options for raid:
non-cdr b1 buffer + b2 cdr + flora comp for buffing laplace/ein
cope af T5 to buff laplace/ein, esp when you don't have SG comp

in campaign and pvp she has 0 practical use

[dense nebula]

And even if there was practical use, eclipsed by comparable options

Crown buffs team offense a lot, so can Blanc (and not limited to True Damage), so can Mari, so can…

1 copy and bail, or skip and wishlist

The things to be mindful of:

• whether her shields count as individual shields
• whether she constantly spams shielding when someone is at full health
• whether characters that proc on receiving heals do so constantly
• interactions with characters that increase max hp without restoring hp
• new characters in future with deliberate synergy with Flora
• pvp stalling

[brisk night]

This character sounds really bad. Or rather, mediocre. 40s burst II skill? Jesus.

[plain dove]

her s2 true dmg might need ppl to drop below and reach max hp to proc

if it's not perma at max hp, then it sucks a lot

[arctic lark]

40s burst only needs to be good enough for half of a 20s burst + 5th nikke replacement

[tall python]

are u guys still coping

why

[arctic lark]

Not that I'm saying she fulfills this criteria

[fading marsh]

Basura?

[stark falcon]

pues no

[unique geyser]

she calls kraken

[hoary forge]

Syuen is right

May be you need to give up on this trash

Hence the new event

[onyx mason]

i love flora therefore i need to put my thinking cap on.

to the kitchen i go

[junior orchid]

I'll just hold off until we get info on the Christmas units

[rare vapor]

go pull

[plain dove]

hmm

s2 true dmg proc is weird

hmm

no idea what actually causes it to trigger

with naga it constantly refreshes at the start of fight, but then ends entirely

with rapunzel it refreshes constantly for longer, but still ends

crown/liter/cindy/flora/healer is the setup

[rare vapor]

you actually pulled?

[plain dove]

no

using the trial one dummy

[rare vapor]

[plain dove]

same situation if no healer at all

constant refresh then stops

could be stack refresh since cindy is electric actually

and ending eventually might be a bad reload time causing it to expire

yup that's it

used no other electric, stack just expires lol

[keen ferry]

Rian needs to lose the shirt.

[plain dove]

yup s2 is dogshit

you need to drop below max hp

then reach it again

for it to refresh

unless the adjacent unit is electric

then as long as flora never reloads in bad time, you can keep it perma

[rare vapor]

why mid nikke has such good art

[plain dove]

but if it ever expires due to bad reload, gotta drop below 100 and reach it again

uptime on s2 gonna be shit

[dense nebula]

Scarlet + Flora + Guillotine go go

[plain dove]

so for optimal flora

you want to drop below 90%, then reach 100%

as often as you can

honestly.... scarlet might be the best one for this

[dense nebula]

Does it work off burst?

[plain dove]

s2 doesn't need burst

[dense nebula]

Ade burst?

[plain dove]

did most of my tests without bursting at all

rapu direct heal didn't refresh

rapu b1 didn't refresh

her own heals don't refresh

gotta actually lose hp then hit it again

or have flora never reload at bad time, and nearby unit being electric

[wild pilot]

Best team I can see is something like:

Liter/Flora/Biscuit/Ein/SAnis

[plain dove]

which... isn't that impossible

can be any electric

[queen arrow]

It is why

[plain dove]

if they can keep stacks, everyone gets perma true dmg

[queen arrow]

Look at Clay and Bay

And Trony

And XRupee

[rare vapor]

you are right

[queen arrow]

Hmm why so?

[plain dove]

yeah scarlet works

[queen arrow]

Why electric is exception

[plain dove]

as long as you got someone that can get her to max often

bc stack gain

so she actually keeps the s2 stack alive

until she has bad reload

[queen arrow]

That does not refresh S2

[plain dove]

yes it does

[queen arrow]

It has no stacks

[plain dove]

yeah but it still refreshes it

[queen arrow]

The fuck spaghetti code

[plain dove]

cindy had it refresh for a while until I assume bad reload, using naga, rapu, and no healer

rh had it never refresh with that same setup

no one bursting

[queen arrow]

I dont think its that

I think it

HP potency

Refreshing

[plain dove]

from cindy?

[wild pilot]

Maybe max HP buffs proc it

[onyx mason]

im broke now

[wild pilot]

While normal heals don't?

[queen arrow]

No, Flora's S1

[wild pilot]

If it's lasting longer on Cindy?

[plain dove]

this?

why would it be different on cindy than on rh

[queen arrow]

Yes

[plain dove]

I'll try other electric too

[queen arrow]

Cus the stack refresh only works on electric?

That is only 4% for everyone but electric unit

[sly grove]

Yea maybe ally on both side getting hit and heal with s1
Cindy cant cause decoy always max hp

[plain dove]

centi/liter/ein/flora/emilia never refreshed

hmm

[queen arrow]

Told u

Wait Cindy refreshed?

[plain dove]

yes

[queen arrow]

Cus Cindy max HP buff?

[plain dove]

regardless of heals or not

[queen arrow]

[plain dove]

could be

[queen arrow]

Yeah Max HP changes HP

It counts as well

[plain dove]

well cindy stopped refreshing at some point

[queen arrow]

A new HP state

[plain dove]

I don't think cindy mirror was at max

but I'll check

[wild pilot]

I wonder if it's Cindy max HP in code being something like:

• increase cap, no longer being 100% HP.
• increase current HP value by same amount, this "reaching 100%" if at 100 to begin with

[queen arrow]

U can try other units like the one boosting Max HP

For example

Noise

Or SMary

Tho make sure they take 0 damage

[plain dove]

no

it's cindy mirror

for sure

every time cindy mirror ticks the s2 true dmg refreshes

yup even when I covered flora so she doesn't shoot

cindy stops once she reaches max

so it's cindy's mirror stacking that's proccing it

[queen arrow]

It is Max HP

Anything that triggers Max HP triggers it

Heals dont?

[plain dove]

heals do nothing

rapu autos, rapu burst, neither work

gonna try this, not sure if my cindy was high enough atk to get this from rapu

[queen arrow]

Need to know if S1 stacks Nero quickly

Thats gonna be toxic af

[plain dove]

yes rapu s2 proc does trigger it on ein

yeah max hp does count as reaching max hp

only way to stack it other than actually losing then reaching max hp

hmm

[rare vapor]

warm november

https://tenor.com/view/pull-gacha-mobile-game-kermit-gif-8751144

[plain dove]

can anyone apply max hp buff consistently tho

[wild pilot]

Frima

[queen arrow]

[onyx mason]

her homescreen is nice

i like it

[wild pilot]

True damage team with treasure Frima lol

[queen arrow]

Noise can

But she taunts

Good luck

[onyx mason]

not enough

[plain dove]

oh shit frima

[queen arrow]

Rumani also can

[sly grove]

Then the summary is max hp getting max hp buff count
But heal only count when its not 100% hp right

[wild pilot]

I wonder if Frima will trigger the buff when it's max stack is 1 tho

[plain dove]

marci even with burst does not trigger it

[wild pilot]

Does refreshing a max HP stack count

Or does the HP have to actually increase

[plain dove]

you need to gain max hp

[queen arrow]

Yes

As long as HP changes state

Thats what matter

If the number change

It triggers again

[plain dove]

yeah frima can trigger it on burst

[queen arrow]

Which means

I need someone to test

[plain dove]

wow they actually made this useless thing work

[wild pilot]

Oh yeah Firma burst also does max HP

[plain dove]

lemme test, since you don't need treasure

s2 would need to expire first to reapply

[onyx mason]

wait this isnt eden

[queen arrow]

If a unit is below 90% HP, does granting them Max HP still grant team shield? Unit after Max HP must be blow 90% too.

[plain dove]

yeah frima s2 needs to expire first

you can do it by spamming shots until it expires

and yeah frima burst always triggers it

wow they actually made her work with frima, more like requiring frima

[wild pilot]

So what does the team even look like?

Ein/Flora/S.Anis/Dolla/Frima?

[plain dove]

could work

or laplace

[junior orchid]

Doesn't work with Harran

[queen arrow]

Copium.

[junior orchid]

[plain dove]

don't actually need electric in the team

[sly grove]

Feel like they gonna go sg route no cdr but burst extension

[junior orchid]

That means Harran needs to kill first

(I think)

[plain dove]

but yeah you would need frima + flora + b2 cdr + 2 B3

that's the basic skeleton

[wild pilot]

Flora 40s kinda fucks over the second B3 if they're also true damage

[plain dove]

yeah

[junior orchid]

However, keeping Scarlet at full HP has some....potential

and maintain those at full stacks

[plain dove]

well you prob won't run laplace and ein in the same team anyway

[wild pilot]

S.Anis supporting Ein I feel would do better than awkwardly putting in Laplace

[plain dove]

unless sketchy t5

so not a major deal atm

problem is, aside from true dmg... that team has basically 0 buffs

[dense maple]

liter with sAnis

[wild pilot]

Oh good point

Volume I guess

[mint galleon]

so how shitty is she?

[plain dove]

very cope comp

prob ain't worth

[wild pilot]

Is.... Iron raid viable with Shelm maybe?

Frima/Laplace/Flora/Ein/Shelm?

[plain dove]

you either treasure frima just to make the team usable, or you basically have almost 0 uptime on her s2 true dmg

unless you can go lower than then reach full hp consistently

that team for iron maybe

[junior orchid]

I'll try this time with some mobs

[queen arrow]

Prolly the omly use case

[plain dove]

her position doesn't matter

front or back

only cares for adjacent

so isn't as restrictive as rouge

[queen arrow]

But its not gonna be better than Frima SHelm Laplace Ein Modernia.

Or maybe it will.

[wild pilot]

Modernia lives with fire team now anyway

Liter/Grave/Asuka/Rei/Modernia

[mint galleon]

imma wait for her to be in standard banner

[queen arrow]

Nah

[junior orchid]

Ok so Harran does work(I think)

she needs to kill something just to get going

[wild pilot]

Harran back from the dead?

[junior orchid]

Nah still ded

[stark falcon]

good luck killing challenge mode solo raid boss

[wild pilot]

Hey some bosses have mobs to get Harran started

[plain dove]

lol yeah her healing can't keep up with scar self dmg, you 100% need extra healer

which causes more issues

[wild pilot]

Indivilia, Mother Whale, etc

[plain dove]

lemme see marci

[full void]

so all in then

[junior orchid]

ok can confirm

[plain dove]

eh good uptime with marci as second b2

[junior orchid]

She works with harran

[plain dove]

comp gonna be like volume/flora/ein/scarlet/marci

quite cope

[wild pilot]

Lol

[plain dove]

ein can be replaced with laplace

[junior orchid]

Harran just needs to kill a mob to get it going

[plain dove]

but at least doesn't force you to treasure frima

[junior orchid]

[wild pilot]

Watch Xmas give a true damage electric DPS who needs outside help with stacks like MPriv does

[queen arrow]

[hoary forge]

more true dmg so I can ignore MC

1 dmg so fun

[rare vapor]

hmm its very hard to pair flora-scarlet-naga together to proc that s2 of flora

[hoary forge]

such joyful mechanic

[rare vapor]

but taking naga out i cant find any b2 that looks good

[queen arrow]

Go home guys

[hoary forge]

whatchu mean naga

there's no Tia

[queen arrow]

She is meant for PrivM

[hoary forge]

[queen arrow]

And Tove

Whuuuuuuush

[rare vapor]

i tried the interesting cook someone posted here

but scarlet hp jsut full all the time or sth

[plain dove]

lol

[mint galleon]

momo is already c7 flora?

[plain dove]

you can technically make it work with grave

[junior orchid]

Ok so Harran now has a place for raids

[plain dove]

since grave on her burst reaches max hp

[rare vapor]

[junior orchid]

Just for Mother Whalwe

[plain dove]

but that's mega bricking

[junior orchid]

[hoary forge]

Grave

[rare vapor]

YES GRAVE

[hoary forge]

who would have thought

[plain dove]

although

[queen arrow]

Tove Naga BSoda PrivM Flora is the way.

[plain dove]

both grave and flora buff laplace

[hoary forge]

[queen arrow]

Oh Grave dips below 90%?

[wild pilot]

B1/Grave/Laplace/Flora/Ein?

[queen arrow]

[plain dove]

no grave dips below 100% and reaches it again during her burst

[queen arrow]

Grave never reaches 100% HP tho

[junior orchid]

New Mother Whale comp bro

[plain dove]

could keep flora as offburst purely for s2

[rare vapor]

this?

[plain dove]

I think flora heal is enough for grave

[junior orchid]

Naga, Scarlet, Flora, Harran, Liter

[queen arrow]

No, Grave loses HP on burst

[plain dove]

at least with sync lock

[junior orchid]

[plain dove]

oh off burst maybe

eh wait

[queen arrow]

No

[plain dove]

[queen arrow]

If flora HP> Grave

[rare vapor]

crappy and flora no ol got clapped by the stage

[queen arrow]

Then she will keep healing Grave

To max HP

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[plain dove]

I used in scope lock, so flora hp... is the same?

[queen arrow]

Now Flora must be Oled too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1304042708469288970/51D5B28626F92638FA8A9E2C637D8A2D.gif

[wild pilot]

Use Flora burst during Laplace burst rotations.

Cover dodge with Grave the whole time so her S1 pierce buff stays active

[rare vapor]

i cant i cant

[queen arrow]

Why Scarlet

[junior orchid]

Can confirm the same logic applies to Rosanna's s2

[rare vapor]

just random stuff

the true damage buff lasts till ein turn, thats good

[queen arrow]

The team we love is

[rare vapor]

oh wait

[junior orchid]

Both Rosanna and Harran need something to die, to get the buff from Flora and maintain it throughout the whole fight

[queen arrow]

Dorothy Biscuit SAnis Ein Flora

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[junior orchid]

Don't slap in Rosanna, PvE Rosanna is nothing but a dream

[rare vapor]

like auto burst, it goes like
RH-Grave-Asuka
then RH-Flora-Ein

[junior orchid]

[rare vapor]

just line up

for my brainded gameplay

[plain dove]

if using scarlet you need another healer

or else scarlet ain't ever reaching 100% again, removing the entire point of scarlet

flora heals are shit

[rare vapor]

not bad if look for 2 back to back burst for waves then stall before boss

new campaign toy

[queen arrow]

Free Alteisen tho?

[plain dove]

yeah I'm not seeing anything other than frima flora comps being actually remotely usable

anyone test with SG comp yet

[queen arrow]

WHERE CDR

[plain dove]

chime b2 cdr with buffs will save flora

[rare vapor]

[plain dove]

do we know her lvl 4 stats yet

[junior orchid]

[stark falcon]

i was just joking when i told you not to quit on your dreams

[plain dove]

smh prydwen slacking

[stark falcon]

please don't burn the kitchen

[plain dove]

eh fck it

imma throw a few multis

[queen arrow]

Definitely running Rosanna Flora Crown Privaty

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

Free Alteisen bro

Wdym

[plain dove]

40 pulls only milk, she ain't getting no more chances

unless new findings

[junior orchid]

Just slap her for this UR with Harran and Scarlet

against Mother Whale

[queen arrow]

She needs someone to die

And ffs they make flora 40s

Toxic as fuck

[junior orchid]

Yeah

rip

Nice one Shift Up

[plain dove]

how does harran stack it

[junior orchid]

If she kills an enemy

[plain dove]

or do you mean stacking harran s2 instead of flora s2

[junior orchid]

she gets 1 stack of s2

and Flora will fill up the rest

and can maintain it for the whole fight

[queen arrow]

Ah the Epinel MatH Copium

[junior orchid]

(at least judging from shooting range)

[plain dove]

got 10 sec duration, should be enough even with stock flora

[junior orchid]

Btw, does Harran's burst pop projectiles?

Nah?

I dun remember

[plain dove]

oh wait

[junior orchid]

[plain dove]

that's just for a 45% atk boost at max stacks

[junior orchid]

yep

[plain dove]

just use a proper b2 instead

[junior orchid]

I went with what that FB guy said

Went with Naga as the main B2

Flora as an off burst

[queen arrow]

Flora can give shield

Shield only triggers when hit

[plain dove]

so flora does the job of maxwell there

assuming harran can get a kill in the first place

and this is assuming harran can't fully stack it herself

I think only scar can remotely reliably trigger shield aside from actual dmg from enemies and healing it back up

max hp probably isn't saving you here

[junior orchid]

Yeah...

[plain dove]

how would flora even fit into a SG comp btw

replace balice in a traditional SG comp?

prob ain't worth using with SG bunnies or SG tiga

and just never burst with her unless you desperately need the heals

is flora giving electric buff stack better than balice giving water buff stack though

[wicked swallow]

howwwwws going everyone

[wild pilot]

If you have neither Tove nor Leona she can keep MPriv's buffs alive?

If you have Tove MPriv should be fine right? So no need for electric buff stacks

[plain dove]

I think it was something about tove stack consistency

but doesn't balice also help with that

[junior orchid]

Imma try later

doing the event atm

[wicked swallow]

Flora mediocre?

[plain dove]

that's an overstatement

[valid island]

Bro really listen to the SG Flora cope

[plain dove]

only frima flora seems remotely usable to me, unless electric buff stack is someway way better than water buff stack for SG comp

[junior orchid]

[wild pilot]

Iron weak raid Shelm true damage team is only half viable option I see

[valid island]

Ein dmg is half phys half true

[wild pilot]

Frima/Flora/Laplace/Shelm/Ein

Would be the hypothetical iron raid team

[valid island]

Laplace needs to pierce

[rare vapor]

[valid island]

Prob they're cooking for future

But not using Flora

Oh wait she's not flat

D tier

[amber hemlock]

The only viable Flora cooks are for people still missing Nikkes

[junior orchid]

[amber hemlock]

And maybe Missilis Tower

Outside of that, just save your resources

Xmas and NY coming

So solo raid means time to relax

[plain dove]

she ain't replacing tiga in missilis

[wild pilot]

Next raid should be what, Iron? Wind?

[amber hemlock]

She'll replace Tia for me

[valid island]

They needs to make a DPS that deal 100% TD while bursting

[amber hemlock]

I already don't use her

[valid island]

To make TD buffs worth

[amber hemlock]

No way to guess

[wild pilot]

Other elements feel too recent

[amber hemlock]

There's no pattern

Theu've done double iron-weak

[wild pilot]

Oh really? Lol

[valid island]

Laplace is first banner DPS and until now she's not built yet

[amber hemlock]

Gravedigger with B Soda into Indivilia with Crown

[valid island]

I hope next one is Wind

So I can skip

[rare vapor]

@hoary forge bronchus 2-3-2 electric weak counter

[valid island]

NY Iron is perfect

[hoary forge]

Petal counters back

'- 80% Healing received

[onyx mason]

all im hearing is Flora op best unit

[rare vapor]

at this point the td buff kinda no point for me, gonna find some bronchus somewhere and let her heal slave

[junior orchid]

No wonder a few event stages had them

[amber hemlock]

Yeah, that's how I see it. Bring her along to ignore Ultra poison and Nihilister fire

Just wait for Mat H rerun

[plain dove]

her heals too dogshit to outheal anything

[amber hemlock]

[amber hemlock]

That's why you use with Naga.

[rare vapor]

Need some sort of synergy too, basically her and the 2 next to her kinda living on oxygen tank

While Asuka can survive herself

[junior orchid]

How about Mast?

[plain dove]

I wonder if the cope comp of volume/biscuit/sanis/flora/ein could be passable

[rare vapor]

So the 5th slot just willywonka

[junior orchid]

Won't her burst trigger s2?

[plain dove]

sanis will have to have higher atk than ein in order to steal boss aggro

although sanis reaching full through biscuit won't be there for ein anyway

so s2 rarely procs for ein realistically

biscuit buffs sanis, flora buffs ein

[rare vapor]

S2 shield i would consider an emergency trigger

Not to force it

[plain dove]

yeah s2 shield isn't worth bothering

unless you can trigger it super often

but idk any nikke that can do that

[dense nebula]

I know! Counters Bronchus if she can heal someone to full health every time the AoE hits

(and millions of teams perished trying this out)

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-evil-evil-laugh-gif-14398336

[rare vapor]

Cindy-Rouge-Ein-Flora-Naga could be a decent Mc AI comp
In case of: Ein burst first to attract the MC attack first burst, leading to flora heal and shield ein

Normally cindy would burst

[plain dove]

problem is you would still just use crown

[rare vapor]

[plain dove]

don't like using cindy with flora bc that's a gigantic waste even in raids

[rare vapor]

Let me save herrrr

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[dense nebula]

There's no saving this flower

https://tenor.com/view/the-addams-family-morticia-addams-cut-flowers-rose-gif-4119894

[onyx mason]

no saving needed

[junior orchid]

ok I did 20 pulls

and nothing

[onyx mason]

my schizo botanist is perfect the way she is

[junior orchid]

Oh well

off to the wishlist she goes

[rare vapor]

Well here is my case
I start from Ein banner, I gamba for rouge and cindy and got naga from Newbie ticket and have no crown

Now i gotta pull flora cuz im new to AI

[dense nebula]

We'd be telling them to avoid the banner and save for upcoming seasonal characters

[onyx mason]

I wouldn't be
Im also unbiased

[rare vapor]

Damn discord such a good friend telling people going the right way

[dense nebula]

Flora's not an easy character to advise a newbie to get behind After all, for B2 fallback, they have Anis

[plain dove]

most of her "viable" use involves treasure frima

double down on shit invest

[onyx mason]

it does?

[plain dove]

for... little returns

[onyx mason]

ok need to finish her treasure then

asap

[plain dove]

bruh

oh no

I just bricked someone's acc

[rare vapor]

Can true damage helps with the balls in chapter 33?

[junior orchid]

[rare vapor]

May insert a bait flora clear

[junior orchid]

Not sure though

[rare vapor]

Will test tmr

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-kittens-kitten-sleeping-mimir-gato-dormir-gif-24014179

[junior orchid]

well, you can like, run Scarlet and Harran alongside her

[shy knot]

Good night cat

[junior orchid]

as long as there are mobs to kill

[onyx mason]

does isabel count? i dont have harran

[junior orchid]

[junior orchid]

I don't think Isabel has stacks

[onyx mason]

yeah stacking bursts doesnt count i know :c

i wish it did

[junior orchid]

[onyx mason]

my maxed out isabel would be useful if that were the case

[plain dove]

do you have the most bricked acc in nikke

[onyx mason]

i mean i also maxed mast but she good

so not that bricked

[junior orchid]

She should be able to proc that

[onyx mason]

mast stacks dont really go away though.

if she had rupee bug that made perma buffs

[junior orchid]

Same goes for Harran

[onyx mason]

then mast s2 would be real

[onyx mason]

hmmm.

[junior orchid]

[onyx mason]

no.

[hexed sundial]

will flora shield trigger naga buffs?

[plain dove]

yeah

[hexed sundial]

oh, so she's better tia then

[plain dove]

how you gonna get shield consistently is the issue

[hexed sundial]

scarlet or guillotine

[onyx mason]

self murder

[plain dove]

guillotine will brick just to make flora work... which doesn't even buff guilo

[onyx mason]

just dont cover

[hexed sundial]

or a taunter maybe

[plain dove]

scarlet barely core hits.... and flora doesn't even buff scarlet

[hexed sundial]

still gives shield

[plain dove]

tia is easily better

and it's not even close

[onyx mason]

but tia isnt flora

[rare vapor]

Btw very nice frame for her

[onyx mason]

it is

emilia frame is easily the best for her

[hexed sundial]

at high deficit it would also be very easy to take damage. she'd be better for bronchus stages at least

[wind depot]

flora can help scarlet stacks.
like does she ever needed help in the first place

[onyx mason]

electric and iron need people that want help stacking

so flora and rupee have more use

oh i forgot mica existed and did the job better wtf

untrue

she isnt flora

[hexed sundial]

i think there's someone to increase stacks for every element, isnt there?

[onyx mason]

yeah mica

[hexed sundial]

aside from her

[plain dove]

tia still better for fart

[onyx mason]

then no

fire and wind

[plain dove]

atk dmg lets you use any dps, while flora only buffs your single slot for true dmg, since the other is for trash scarlet/guillo

and that's assuming you ever flora burst rather than always naga burst

[hexed sundial]

true dmg buff affects full team

[onyx mason]

what does naga burst do

[plain dove]

what team, the only dps that benefit from it is laplace and ein

[onyx mason]

i levelled it but having used it since crown

[plain dove]

atk buff

[onyx mason]

ah

[hexed sundial]

ein still strong. she could be niche for mirror maybe

[plain dove]

only for raid, since crown easily better

[hexed sundial]

what if no crown

[plain dove]

flora's best case scenario is as a cope t5 with treasure frima

then tiga

[onyx mason]

i think you mean bis t1 with treasure frima

[plain dove]

tia buff still buffs ein more

buffs all of her dmg, undiluted, while ein self-dilutes with true dmg, and she doesn't only do true dmg either

I can see ppl using frima/flora/shelm/laplace/flex for iron-weak, and that's like it

if you got proper raid teams I don't see you ever using flora in other cases

and main reason why treasure frima works well, is she can consistently trigger flora s2, and they both buff true dmg

frima burst always triggers s2, or you can let frima s2 run out by spamming shots, then reapplying

gaining max hp buff is the other way to trigger s2 other than actually losing hp and healing it all up

[onyx mason]

Ok i go sleepy. you all must make Flora SSS tier while I do so.

[plain dove]

rouge should trigger her s2 decently at least

[tall python]

Y'all done coping

[ionic shell]

It's TExia, Flora, Poli, TLaplace, Ein, SAnis

OP squad tbh

[orchid dirge]

loving the new 6 man team

good design, dogshit kit
name a more iconic duo from ShiftUp

[ionic shell]

Honestly I really like her kit, the only problem is the 40s cooldown.

I might use her anyway.

[junior orchid]

yes

I'll be saving for Christmas now

[sly grove]

You guys want to fix 40s cd?
Try liter rouge dwife flora then ein or laplace then lmao

[ionic shell]

I already pulled her

Poli is gonna get a treasure that makes her op and Flora is in, this is the new meta I'm telling you

[mint galleon]

1/1/1

[ionic shell]

Waifu over meta you know it baby

[tawdry crystal]

So what comp for Florida?

I mean Flora.

[ionic shell]

She's not meta so "It depends on who you have". If you're talking about theoretical best comp even if it ruins all your other teams, you're probably looking at something like Liter, Crown, Flora, SBS, Alice or some kind of other "Meta team but with Flora"

[weary pasture]

Clay Frima Laplace Flora

great composition to keep the bench warm

[ionic shell]

If you want the best team possible that actually uses flora for her abilities, it's probably going to be some kind of true damage and/or electric team

Also I just realized Laplace is iron type. Why do I always think she's electric?

[tawdry crystal]

I'm asking out of curiosity, I don't have her.

[ionic shell]

then yeah it's gonna be like flora ein sanis or flora ein laplace

Winter Rapi is going to be a 40s burst 2 with CDR and true damage.

[tall python]

Frima Flora Laplace Ein Dolla

That's the only real composition, is it not

Just need to put win alongside flora

Still

Even with that minmaxxing

This shit is ass 💔

It's a filler banner

Not bad considering they gave us double pilgrim

One day

Frima will rise from the ashes

B3 CDR true damage dps

Flora is dead with or without a good true damage dps

There is no reason to use flora

Ever

[mint galleon]

just treat her as clay mk2

[ionic shell]

Defense down truthers winning

actually wtf tfrima gives a ton of def down

maybe they ARE winning

RIP

[dense nebula]

I already skill reset Frima and Laplace a while back

They have no campaign or raiding future at present except perhaps Laplace vs Electric and not because of true damage - she’s better with other buffers

Laplace’s still good for tower but if you have EQ Quency and Ein invested your Missiis tower team is probably already full until it’s time to kill an Ultra or Stormbringer

[dense nebula]

On that note for Missilis Tower, there will be Tia & Naga, so Flora’s already pushed out

The only redemption Flora has is she’s a healer

If we face a Solo Raid where we must have healers or we’re doomed, she’ll potentially be alright

[raw prawn]

Ya never know. Everyone thought same with Tove and SG line

[wild pilot]

Flora needs Xmas B3 to be a non-SG, true damage dealing MPriv for her to be raid relevant

[south parrot]

how do you even get Scarlet to 90% with this passive

especially if Naga is also used

[weary pasture]

@south parrot is it better now?

[valid island]

Bro cooks TD buffer for Scarlet

[south parrot]

no that's tiny

went from 1080 to 663

[weary pasture]

weird I just copied link

3rd try

think its good now

[bronze mirage]

I will cook clay flora team

[south parrot]

looks good

[stark falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/splash-with-water-fire-burning-mad-angry-gif-12309333

[upper pier]

Would Flora be decent at trying to keep a Jackal team alive in pvp?

[wild pilot]

Once someone dies Rosanna can pretty quickly get up to 220% ATK if we want crazy synergy

Definitely the hardest stackable buff to stack in the game, and Flora stacks it quick

Does need 1 stack to get it started though

Rosanna/Flora/XAnne/Ein/S.Anis

For the meme team setup

Requires being a boss fight where you can manually let Ein get shot and die though

[woeful robin]

i misscliked a multi and got her

does she has some use in my acc?

[stark falcon]

yea, as missilis growth ranking point in the ark leaderboard

[woeful robin]

xdd

[stark falcon]

you have crown, naga, centi, blanc already. flora can't do anything for you in pve/pvp wise

missilis tower: centi/naga
campaign: crown/naga
pvp: centi/blanc/biscuit

[amber hemlock]

20 pulls. I'll take it

I'll test in Missilis tower when it's up next

Cuz I think Centi will do nothing for me vs Mother Whale

[rustic belfry]

Is flora good

[stark falcon]

#1308733155704045631 message

[junior orchid]

We just need one Nikke that can blow herself up

looks at Vesti

[rare vapor]

Any overload recommendation?

[woeful robin]

probably they are gonna say you the best recommendation is not overloading her xdd

[amber hemlock]

Ele/ATK/Ammo like usual for MG units, no? If someone were to OL her

[bronze mirage]

I thought you bad mouth flora

[bronze mirage]

4 atk 4 ele 4 ammo

[amber hemlock]

Hm? I love the character

I was also one of the people trying to cook uses for her

[bronze mirage]

Delete the pin

[amber hemlock]

I'm not a mod

[onyx mason]

look at these liars

[weary pasture]

light mode detected

invalid opinion

[amber hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[steel oxide]

They tried to make a Cinderella support but failed

[amber hemlock]

She's not remotely related to Cinderella mechanically

Cindy doesn't need shielding or healing cuz she's invincible, and she doesn't deal true damage

[steel oxide]

Oops I thought she was like rouge

[bronze mirage]

No she's not

[ember trench]

The only thing Flora helps Cindy with is stacking her HP buff faster, which shouldn't take more than 36 seconds normally

[steel oxide]

Midra

[onyx mason]

No she better

[tawdry crystal]

Yesterday I told my f2p friend just skip Flora, I would unfriend him if he pulled for her.

he pulled one time...

[woeful robin]

same happened to me

had 10 tickets and i dont like the red point

[tawdry crystal]

should I be mad

[woeful robin]

i pulled 1 multi

and i got her

and i dont even have ein

xddddddddddddd

[tawdry crystal]

he spent 1 pull

not a multi

[woeful robin]

ou

lmao

[rare vapor]

Edit this image and add “Pull” into it

[tawdry crystal]

when your friend ignored your warning and did amazing thing

[hoary forge]

she's so bad even her event I read like wtf

[bronze mirage]

Fck discord remix doesn't have auto align

Worse than PowerPoint

[onyx mason]

$$$

[rose nacelle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1012288696336273428/1070326844991225876/credit_card.png

[onyx mason]

I agree cocoa

[inland lichen]

I do anything to buff Isabel’s dmg 😂 or making harren meta again

[amber hemlock]

Well, hope Shift Up gives them treasures

[inland lichen]

I miss the good old days when harren alone made me climb tower like no one’s business

[amber hemlock]

This probably won't work with Nero

[queen arrow]

did u test

yeah no it doesnt

[dense nebula]

HoT buffs only count as recovery effect on buff application, so 1 proc at battle start

Unfortunate

[tawdry crystal]

So Ein and Laplace are dps of Flora's team?

[amber hemlock]

They're the only notable true damage dealers

If you don't use true damage dealers, then Flora is demoted to off-burst Marciana status, providing shields at the cost of being a team comp liability

[tawdry crystal]

My friend got Flora in one pull, but he doesn't have Ein...
have Lap's treasure though

[queen arrow]

Cubeless Base Flora grants PrivM +5% damage boost in Tove comp.

[glass oracle]

5% over what

balice?

[queen arrow]

No buffs?

I changed it to Rem.

Oh, I'm fakin sure BunnyAlice better cus Ammo Refresh.

[amber hemlock]

I don't think Flora will end up BiS for anything. It's just providing potential uses for her (like for people who don't have B Alice )

[plain dove]

if flora can't beat balice in SG comp, then 0 point in using flora there

balice gives ammo and has better heals

ok so yeah her best chance gonna be a frima flora true dmg comp

[glass oracle]

is the test like a full auto with the boss jumping and stuff or was it 2 burst cycles ideal conditions keeping her stacks up

[amber hemlock]

There's no way she'd have hope to beat B Alice

B Alice keeps Tove's stacks up, meaning she'll naturally refresh everyone else's

Flora just keeps M Priv's stacks from Tove's burst up in case Tove loses stacks

[plain dove]

yeah trash unit

I ain't treasuring frima, so super trash unit

btw what's her burst buff amount at lvl 1 or lvl 4

[glass oracle]

but don't you just reset if tove stacks suck? balice stacking only reduces amount you reset for consistency. doesn't really increase your cap besides the ammo

[shy knot]

ty shift up, helping us save gems

[amber hemlock]

Yeah. Flora won't help with Tove consistency at all. She just reduces how much M Priv is nerfed by Tove fails

so B Alice > Flora for SG comp for sure

She has two main flaws:

1. She has a 40s burst.
2. The two DPS units she buffs have a 72.35% and 1.14% recent usage rate in top 50 for Solo Raid.

Unless NY gives us the SBS/Cindy of true damage, she's too niche to be able to overcome her 40s cooldown

Expecting her offensive buffs to be relevant is like expecting Helm or Privaty (standard) to deal damage

[plain dove]

what if we get a support that reduces all b1 and b2 unit cds to 20 seconds each burst

honestly that would be kinda game changing

[amber hemlock]

Okay, she buffs true damage more often

[wind dome]

[amber hemlock]

All you'd see is Anne, Poli, and Biscuit stonks rise

If Anne had 20s CD, she'd be absurd

Her burst ATK buff is as good as RH B1 for Attackers

[twin horizon]

Rapunzel revive every 20s would also be funny

[amber hemlock]

Oh right, and imagine Noah

[tawdry crystal]

There is no bad Misillis NIKKE

[raw prawn]

Her treasure

[amber hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-john-cena-ru-sure-about-dat-gif-14258954

[south parrot]

stop the cap

[tawdry crystal]

Ah yes, I detest her so much that I forgot...

[amber hemlock]

I'd actually argue that Julia and Trony are worse than Crow

(kit-wise)

but regardless, Missilis has definitely had bad Nikkes before

[tawdry crystal]

Gasp

Julia my waifu!!

Her treasure will even more meta than Lap's treasure

[amber hemlock]

so not much

[tawdry crystal]

please SU, buff her

[twin horizon]

Trony being worse is one hell of a statement

[amber hemlock]

Crow was at least useful for keeping teams alive in the early game

Trony is literally useless as an AI, unable to actually use her own skills unless played manually, and Exia with treasure will beat her in damage

[tall python]

Doesn't deserve F
Overhated

[amber hemlock]

Back in my day, Crow was meta for union raid Modernia

Along with Folkwang/Aria

[rare vapor]

[tall python]

Goddamn

2/9 of the most useful R nikkes are missilis

Missilis is truly goated

Syuen knows her shit

[weary pasture]

why does this unit have more messages in her thread than Mari xd

[tall python]

Failed collab

Also, people still on a high post anniv

[amber hemlock]

Also Mari was pretty simple

Grab a copy

Done

[tall python]

Umm

Flora is pretty simple

[weary pasture]

Flora is also simple

[tall python]

Skip

[weary pasture]

skip

[tall python]

Done

[bronze mirage]

prepare apology letter because she's a sleeper unit

[weary pasture]

[tall python]

Y'all just horny for her

[amber hemlock]

Nah, cuz skip claim invites more resistance than pull

I say to skip her too tho

[tall python]

There should be no logical resistance

What is the argument here

[amber hemlock]

Of course there is. FOMO

[tall python]

I even pushed out commvotes early

[amber hemlock]

Remember when Tove was a skip?

[tall python]

Ez skip

[tall python]

Was she

[bronze mirage]

This is so bs

[tall python]

There were clear reasons to pull her

#1176712613556658196 message

Did I stutter

[lucid pumice]

tove was a skip? i thought we all agreed she was busted and was waiting for SG

[amber hemlock]

[amber hemlock]

Waiting for SG is the key there

[lucid pumice]

to be fair right, she didnt exist until crystal chamber

[amber hemlock]

Non-limited unit

[lucid pumice]

because mpriv

GD was bsoda right? after that shes basically been everywhere

[amber hemlock]

Even after Crystal Chamber, she saw less use than Miranda on average until B Soda

Yeah, B Soda made her a must-have

[lucid pumice]

ya 1 shotgun dps out of 2

is still struggle

[amber hemlock]

but even in raids, Tove was entirely useless for half a year for the most part

So that would be a wishlist unit

[bronze mirage]

Bsoda is the real reason sg team works

[lucid pumice]

wishlist units for me are ones with 0 potential

[amber hemlock]

Any unit has potential

[lucid pumice]

try running a sg team with bsoda and not tove

its pretty strugglebus

[amber hemlock]

NY Pilgrim is Chime who gives CDR and converts team damage into true damage

Flora now meta

Viper was mostly useless outside of PvP

Gets treasure

Deals absurd damage in last water-weak raid

No unit is a safe skip if wishlist isn't a category

[lucid pumice]

im pretty sure even with a chime like that she would still be trouble

[bronze mirage]

Tove powercrept when

[lucid pumice]

considering 40s cd

[tall python]

Yeah

Idk why there was so much talk in both servers lol

This was a clay level unit

With heals

So I guess a tier above clay

[lucid pumice]

clay was hot tho

[amber hemlock]

Heals make her better than Clay, yeah

[lucid pumice]

did u consider how hot clay is

[amber hemlock]

Flora hotter

[tall python]

Flora is cute

[lucid pumice]

did u see clay's event page

[bronze mirage]

She's hot.

[amber hemlock]

Different strokes for different folks

[tall python]

How much traction did clay have

[tall python]

Half of flora

[rare vapor]

Smmh skipping the best wallpaper and pfp

[tall python]

Ikr
Grave has banner ongoing

[lucid pumice]

flora is just half of grave with 40s cd

[bronze mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-cheerleader-cheer-shift-up-gif-3113061741020434918

[lucid pumice]

and only true dmg instead of pierce+dmg