For unpaid testing
#[Tove] New Unit Megathread
obsidian harness
tired cradle
If the other party feels so, I would apologize.
But the other party did not say anything.
I have a Filipino friend.
tired cradle
Who I always talk shit about, and he talks shit about me too.
tired cradle
But we are super close.
marsh basin
obsidian harness
@mental veldt you too
tired cradle
tf u guys arguing about
Ask Moonfang.
mental veldt
<@1041810203244511353> you too
k
marsh basin
u guys both donowall
hard crown
What tf is a tove
tired cradle
u guys both donowall
mental veldt
What tf is a tove
Like a treasure trove
obsidian harness
What tf is a tove
Apparently new meta
marsh basin
Apparently new meta
i called smol white suck
TRUST
got the pin in that thread
as proof
mental veldt
Is Smol White suck if she is doing exactly what she was designed to do?
marsh basin
I called Mast for Guillo
no u dont count u flipflop too much
marsh basin
Is Smol White suck if she is doing exactly what she was designed to do?
if she was designed to be mid then i guess shes S+ at being mid
obsidian harness
Is Smol White suck if she is doing exactly what she was designed to do?
They don't get it
We finally have a Projectile killer
tired cradle
She is designed to be mid.
mental veldt
They don't get it
We finally have a Projectile killer
This is true
tired cradle
what is projectile killer
Hitcount rocks
obsidian harness
what is projectile killer
Projectile
Killer
mental veldt
She crushes balls
obsidian harness
tired cradle
She shoots 1 dmg multiple times
marsh basin
obsidian harness
like what content u need that for
Nothing for now
Sometimes campaign
mental veldt
Anywhere with balls
tired cradle
LOL
mental veldt
What if we get a SoloRaid with balls everywhere?
mental veldt
Ok, moneybags
marsh basin
im f2p
mental veldt
"buy the skill package" "I'm f2p" Explain?
obsidian harness
"buy the skill package" "I'm f2p" Explain?
He will buy with someone else's money
mental veldt
He will buy with someone else's money
We betting mom or dad?
icy root
"buy the skill package" "I'm f2p" Explain?
Fixing to pay
mental veldt
Who defines this?
tired cradle
F2p fr = $10+ per month
marsh basin
kisenix does
tired cradle
icy root
It's on a per player basis
tired cradle
Who defines this?
Some random people in official cord
mental veldt
Ew
lucid warren
Snake deleted it
obsidian harness
Anyways
Back ontopic pls
tired cradle
and picture of tove
No
marsh basin
mental veldt
Anyways
Back ontopic pls
Have we settled the math yet?
obsidian harness
Have we settled the math yet?
No because
Need to wait to see how mirrors stack count works
tired cradle
Whats the diff between after effects and premiere pro
Im gonna get sent to offtopic chat
mental veldt
No because
Need to wait to see how mirrors stack count works
New feature wasn't properly shown in the teaser?
obsidian harness
New feature wasn't properly shown in the teaser?
Well, I didn't look into it
Nerds say it's 3× damage but Austin (also a nerd) says wait till maint ends
Which is the better option
mental veldt
Austin got an uncle who works at Shift Up?
obsidian harness
Why don't u guys just check how mast works
mental veldt
Wow, toxic.
obsidian harness
^
obsidian harness
he called me low iq
Well
Maint ends soon
marsh basin
explains how we got 27.8%
vestal jacinth
But they gave her 27.8%.
I have tove's skill 1 is 15% instead of 5% trigger lol
pallid ridge
<@308926283482398720> can u make this with 5%
marsh basin
icy root
I'm not convinced. Can you show me the math?
mental veldt
Need to do it with New Math
pallid ridge
What editing app u use
Cap cut
exotic pulsar
All the this talk and sweat we back on 85% of happening again
tired cradle
All the this talk and sweat we back on 85% of happening again
Its been 77-85
The 77 has 2x more dips than 85
This makes a problem with rotation
marsh basin
game up testing time @tired cradle @obsidian harness
lucid warren
@marsh basin mlb angle ?
marsh basin
yea i havent pulled yet
lol
oh
i forgot we get it for free now in shoting range
👀
marsh basin
i
dropped stacks
hmm it seems to be triple?
looks to be triple
somoene else test
marsh basin
no i mean the burst
dark widget
marsh basin
attack buff is triple
opaque palm
wel... im always at max stacks before she burst
dark widget
marsh basin
@dark widget TEST
dark widget
wat am i testing
drowsy scroll
it should be 80%
dark widget
cant u test?
opaque palm
dark widget
dark widget
it took a minute to get that thing to 3 with 2% proc ngl
drowsy scroll
smh just level her s1 to 10
opaque palm
steal some
opaque palm
you forgor the game we playing?
tired cradle
I told u im right
opaque palm
Harry potter and the secret nikke chambers
crimson prairie
opaque palm
the speed is real
icy stirrup
I'm speedrunning Miracle Snow atm, gonna show SAnis Tove gameplay soon
winged pebble
Does she work for Isabel?
obsidian harness
Does she work for Isabel?
Nearly impossible to use her that way
winged pebble
Damm guess im skipping
valid badger
All I'm reading here is that I should skip, lel.
obsidian harness
@marsh basin tell Kira he lost pos 1 and now he was wrong about tove
Hes falling off
Revenge for calling you low iq
Tove works
Only problem is how uptime affects performance
valid badger
What does that mean?
obsidian harness
If She loses stacks during burst
You lose 80% atk buff, it drops right down to 20%
valid badger
She can lose buffs?
past kite
her buff is gacha percentage
obsidian harness
She can lose buffs?
Her buffs depend on her skill 1 stacks
valid badger
...
obsidian harness
Her skill 1 has a 5% chance of activating
valid badger
gacha within gacha.
random rose
devs loved their Gacha so much added into units
valid badger
Lmao, fuck that.
random rose
please be meta Tove
valid badger
Skip.
obsidian harness
Tove is team 5 material for sure
past kite
do you guys actually foresee her and shotgun team being meta is SR?
valid badger
Time to wait if there's christmas units.
marsh basin
If She loses stacks during burst
You lose 80% atk buff, it drops right down to ...
so it updates dynamically?
obsidian harness
Pull if tryhard on raids
Pull if you have highly invested shotguns
random rose
manifest Crown and Chime SG duo
valid badger
Pull if you like her cake.
winged pebble
Pull if tryhard on raids
Pull if you have highly invested shotguns
That arent isabel :(
obsidian harness
so it updates dynamically?
Haven't tested myself yet but going on what some mf told me
random rose
Isabel have 3 buffers still useless
obsidian harness
That arent isabel :(
Tove Shelm/dolla Isabel sugar sakura
This can work
slate ravine
past kite
what if you dont have isabel
slate ravine
trial tove cuz i got shafted alrd
obsidian harness
what if you dont have isabel
Isabel is copium
Ideally use drake
slate ravine
what if you dont have isabel
who
obsidian harness
Cuz drake ammo buff and atk buff for her 1200% burst nuke is decent
Along with extra 10% buff
dark widget
If She loses stacks during burst
You lose 80% atk buff, it drops right down to ...
it looks like it snapshots to me
floral spire
Isabel have 3 buffers<:deadge:1014951072072216626> still useless
Because crit is ass in nikke and she halves full burst
dark widget
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036760639709921422/1177130590600953856/image.png?ex=6571634a&is=655eee4a&hm=d64ad07febce6140565019533eb981fbe6d9e27ad1633187741dfc8ea53e84e1&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036760639709921422/1177130591485968414/image.png?ex=6571634b&is=655eee4b&hm=d37a062d45ce4943007f04e22f565fab47329a6d404fef7e2f937f78d34b8bc2&
obsidian harness
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036760639709921422/1177130590600953856/i...
Try losing buff during burst
carmine isle
icy stirrup
S1 lvl 1-5 only +1 boolet
dark widget
yes
dark widget
S1 lvl 1-5 only +1 boolet
yea but then ur getting less uptime on s1
opaque palm
yeah
obsidian harness
That's insanely better
tired cradle
obsidian harness
https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru...
Ok well time to tell that mf fck you
tired cradle
Nope, not dynamically updated.
opaque palm
well... to some point
valid badger
Aside from her S1 being just a mini gacha... are her S2 an Burst any good?
icy stirrup
Yeah, you have to proc twice before burst
icy stirrup
Aside from her S1 being just a mini gacha... are her S2 an Burst any good?
S2 is stucked from S1
valid badger
Jesus...
obsidian harness
Ok this is good
past kite
what about that triple mirror thingymajig? how does that work?
obsidian harness
This means less rng for tove
icy stirrup
Atk speed boost required S1 at 3 stacks
obsidian harness
We ballin'
dark widget
lorax is her burst gen per bullet the same as regular 60ammo ar? 
valid badger
What kind of unit is this...?
obsidian harness
What kind of unit is this...?
Shotgun buffer
icy stirrup
lorax is her burst gen per bullet the same as regular 60ammo ar? <:uwucat:105660...
2%
umbral acorn
Shotgun buffer
proceed to use AR herself
ty, im going to read that as 0.2% to match 60ammo ar
umbral acorn
marsh basin
Nope, not dynamically updated.
so its 100% confirmed it snapshots?
obsidian harness
Ok that's all the info we need
tired cradle
TOVE FINDINGS
- Tove's Burst Skill stacks are determined from Temporary Modification stacks when it is activated. It is NOT dynamically updated (confirmed).
- The attack buff is doubled or tripled depending on Temporary Modification stacks (confirmed).
- Burst Skill is guaranteed to get 1 stack of ATK buff, even if Temporary Modification has 0 stacks.
valid badger
Shotgun buffer
It was rethorical... nevermind.
icy stirrup
3% gamble
frail ridge
random rose
so buff can't fall off mid burst?
tawny owl
3% is unusable
icy stirrup
Privaty and SAnis can't nullified that cursed +6 ammo completely 
obsidian harness
Is tove good? Should I pull tove?
**F2p: **pull one copy IF you plan to tryhard in raids, OR are a huge fan of shotguns.
Low spenders: get one copy.
Why?
Tove is a shotgun buffer, that you will need to get 3 stacks of her skill 1 for before you burst. This way, she buffs shotguns insanely so that they output very high damage.
If you manage to get good uptime outside of burst at max stacks for her skill 1, she will also provide decent attack speed buffs during non full burst durations, which increase overall damage and burst gen as well.
Overall, she is a very decent choice for Burst 1 for team 5 in solo raid
I believe Tove will see some action in solo raids, as a pair of sugar and a B2cdr (Shelm/dolla).
obsidian harness
**Is tove good? Should I pull tove?**
**F2p: **pull one copy IF you plan to try...
north sluice
why is she ass
lucid warren
Skill prio @obsidian harness ? 
north sluice
obsidian harness
Skill prio <@390152688605593603> ? <a:slapped:1077696569928843384>
Waiting for community to give it
slate ravine
all 10 or bust
obsidian harness
For me
S1 > B > S2
tired cradle
TOVE'S UNIT SUMMARY
- At Skill 1 level 9 or above and at base ammo, the uptime of Temporary Modification stack 3 is ±77%. The average duration of stack 3 in one streak is 18.33s.
- If you gain enough Max Ammo OL (like 340%+), this increases to 85%, and the average duration extends to 28.33s.
- Tove's Burst Skill's stacks are determined based on Temporary Modification stacks when it is activated. It is not dynamically updated. Therefore, resetting stacks in the middle of Burst Skill will NOT affect the ATK buff.
- Burst Skill is guaranteed to get 1 stack of ATK buff on activation, even if Temporary Modification is absent.
SKILL PRIORITY
- Skill 1: 9 (minimum), 5 (ceiling for SAnis + Priv tech [malding])
- Skill 2: 4/6/8 (need further testing)
- Burst: 10
crimson prairie
vestal jacinth
**TOVE'S UNIT SUMMARY**
- At Skill 1 level 9 or above and at base ammo, the upt...
should I even still pull
obsidian harness
tired cradle
should I even still pull
Yes
obsidian harness
**Is tove good? Should I pull tove?**
**F2p: **pull one copy IF you plan to try...
crimson prairie
Maybe test your luck with a 10 pull but that’s it
obsidian harness
Pls pin <@390152688605593603>
Hmm I'll think about it 
I want to wait for some more testing
(need further testing) not good enuf
dark widget
anis priv lvl 1 tove forsure works
open sphinx
We might see a good testing in the ur maybe
dark widget
however it took me 1 min 15 seconds to stack up to 3 with a base tove, 0/10 do not recomend unless ur an rng god
dark widget
We might see a good testing in the ur maybe
UR only has 3 teams, the competition is so tough there
most likely SR
crimson prairie
Yea any unit where stacks rely on RNG is not worth
vestal jacinth
most likely SR
not just any sr
a SR where parts wouldn't matter so much
obsidian harness
anis priv lvl 1 tove forsure works
Why doesn't this work for
Higher ammo anis
icy stirrup
"c192_Battle_Ready_1": "Raptures are excellent sources of protein... wait, that's not right.",
Wtf Tove?
vestal jacinth
like the Solo raid 2 with blacksmith
dark widget
not just any sr
a SR where parts wouldn't matter so much
dw surely we wont get GD sr 
obsidian harness
How much is the buff, isn't it only +2 ammo?
icy stirrup
+6
tired cradle
anis priv lvl 1 tove forsure works
Hang on
dark widget
Why doesn't this work for
Higher ammo anis
next breakpoint goes to +2 = 6 ammo
vestal jacinth
dw surely we wont get GD sr <:Kappa:794017071880470538>
problem is gd is iron weak lol
dark widget
How does sanis have no ammo
thats why i tested it
dark widget
problem is gd is iron weak lol
good thing sugar is iron
obsidian harness
next breakpoint goes to +2 = 6 ammo
But anis burst is like
120% ammo reduction
vestal jacinth
good thing sugar is iron <:pepehmmm:955702916294008923>
bad thing: so are liter and maxwell
tired cradle
Ok I have a better plan
Bois
Level 9
After full burst
Just manual Tove
Dont shoot
dark widget
bad thing: so are liter and maxwell
u have liter maxwell on team 5? 
vestal jacinth
u have liter maxwell on team 5? <:monkaChrist:1015296270065205319>
no look at the ultra solo team comps
dark widget
But anis burst is like
120% ammo reduction
only 70+50
lucid warren
Whats ol prio here fellas?
obsidian harness
Whats ol prio here fellas?
If you really want to get smthng
Get ammo
vestal jacinth
Whats ol prio here fellas?
max ammo max ammo max ammo
obsidian harness
That's about it
open sphinx
Ammo
stuck sleet
ammmomomomo
obsidian harness
only 70+50
Oh
+6 ammo is 100% ammo buff
tired cradle
Is because Noir and Priv are activated on full burst
obsidian harness
I understand now.. I guess
tired cradle
But Tove is activated BEFORE full hurst
dark widget
so if i go full burst with the ammo reduction right
then let her s1 proc
it would happen after full burst
marsh basin
idk wut ur testing but noir and priv positioning is important
on what u want to achieve
tired cradle
Go ahead
obsidian harness
Ye priv p5
tired cradle
The count of ammo in S1 goes thru Priv first
So +1 ammo
Then divided by Priv
And it becomes +0
dark widget
uploading
tired cradle
If u wanna gamble u can go that way
dark widget
0 stack full burst -> 3 stack gain after burst still 1 ammo
tired cradle
Use sanis
vestal jacinth
<:kekw:1009394634692247632>
but is it worth the attack speed buff being so inconsistent?
tired cradle
Wait till 3 stacks then burst
vestal jacinth
and why not just go dorothy instead?
tired cradle
0 stack full burst -> 3 stack gain after burst still 1 ammo
As I said
It goes thru Priv first
dark widget
tired cradle
+1 ammo
And Priv cuts by >50%
So it rounds down
To +0
Apparently thats how it works
dark widget
wym goes through priv first? 
heady kiln
Oh, it's order of the buffs being applied.
vestal jacinth
Priv reduces the S1 ammo buff
but it brings up the question: why not for the burst cdr?
open sphinx
Tove gives the +1 ammo but priv cuts it half and makes it 0.5 which then game makes it 0
tired cradle
Because at level 6+, it's 4 ammo on her full burst, 8 ammo on other full burst.
open sphinx
I think
tired cradle
but if its applied after priv buff why is it going through priv buff
Because Priv buff exists
I had wrong theory
I fixed it
obsidian harness
but if its applied after priv buff why is it going through priv buff
In this case
Tove buff was applied before
Cuz tove was left most nikke
dark widget
it seems like noir buff also gets reduced
dark widget
In this case
Tove buff was applied before
Cuz tove was left most nikke
it literally didnt exist until i proced it tho
vestal jacinth
it seems like noir buff also gets reduced
stealth fix?
obsidian harness
it literally didnt exist until i proced it tho
1 stack at full burst is automatic
tired cradle
Tove goes thru Priv first
Noir buff goes thru Priv first
Do you understand now
It makes Tove meta for SAnis
tired cradle
does it tho cuz tove lvl 1 is crap proc rate
Level 5
dark widget
tired cradle
Is fine
dark widget
this thing scales
tired cradle
Level 5 is fine
dark widget
is lvl 5 next breakpoint?
tired cradle
16%
Of failing within any 5s
So 3 successful triggers in a row is 84%^3
59.2%
3 trigger duration is therefore
12/33.333
I mean the other way
2.775s
dark widget
1 stack at full burst is automatic
thats only atk buff
tired cradle
Therefore,
dark widget
btw
heady kiln
I'm paying attention for this because if there's some bullshit mechanic to make Tove not brick S.Anis I'm gonna pull.
dark widget
forced 1 stack of atk buff but u can go in with 0 s1 stacks
tired cradle
- The average trigger duration is 2.7775s at infinite ammo.
- And for 3 triggers in a row, there is a 59% chance it will go to Stack 3.
- Level 5.
frail ridge
I'm paying attention for this because if there's some bullshit mechanic to make ...
Bullshit mechanic is to be fucked by extreme rng
lucid warren
So mine brick if s1 lv6? @tired cradle for sanis?
random rose
just don't get any stacks
lucid warren
So who is the mtfk in the pin said lv9 minimum?
random rose
manual tove for
tired cradle
The workaround
lucid warren
lucid warren
hearty silo
So what is this
frail ridge
Then you lose a few shots on sanis and attack speed
hearty silo
Noir LVL 6+ bricks S Anis when trying to cheese with Tove + S Anis + Privaty?
frail ridge
Still fucked
hearty silo
I just woke and am just now peering through these arcane messages from Cthulu (math), someone decipher
hearty silo
Interesting
tired cradle
**TOVE'S UNIT SUMMARY**
- At Skill 1 level 9 or above and at base ammo, the upt...
Updated.
tired cradle
So who is the mtfk in the pin said lv9 minimum?
Nah
It's fine
At 3%
It takes 15s to get 3 stacks
After a reset
Its super bad
Level 9 better
Manual after entering burst
dark widget
3% sounds really painful
just from impression
considering s2 and burst really depends on it
lucid warren
hearty silo
So what is the “bricked at 6+” in reference to?
hearty silo
Or should I just ignore that remark? 
dark widget
and it worked ok
hearty silo
Alright
tired cradle
At 3%, it takes 15s ON AVERAGE to get 3 stacks.
After each reset.
Kosmiu taking 70s to get 3 stacks at 2%.
Is proof too.
dark widget
yea
tired cradle
Heres the way
IF U WANNA MINMAX
after Tove gains 3rd stack
Manual her
Wait 4s
Then do burst chain
This is if u wanna minmax
Literally the only way
dark widget
but then ur burst cycle will be all jank + ur likely going to lose bursts
over the whole run
random rose
with 2% you can go 80% of a SI without getting full stacks
dark widget
also no s2 still
heady kiln
Brick skill 2 to force a comp we wrote off as soon as her kit came out.
tired cradle
Excuse me why is Maiden 7
Fuck u
I bricked my Maiden
Motherfucker
Wait
Its just placement?
pallid ridge
**TOVE'S UNIT SUMMARY**
- At Skill 1 level 9 or above and at base ammo, the upt...
What about overload priority?
Ammo>Atk>any~~
??
tired cradle
but then ur burst cycle will be all jank + ur likely going to lose bursts
True
Shes not SAnis pair
Idk why we are trying to force a dumb meta here
tired cradle
Excuse me
Sanis with 4 ammo + tove > sanis with 1 ammo + dorothy
@dark widget why is Tove not gaining stacks consistently
dark widget
idk
mine kept dropping
but i was using s1 lvl 1
like i got 1-2 a bunch of time
then drop
random rose
Idk why we are trying to force a dumb meta here
wait lets not write it off yet maybe the buffs outweigh being 1 bullet
vestal jacinth
so big skip for Tove?
marsh basin
just need to keep in mind to watch for 3 stacks b4 bursting her
thats p much the only annoying part
tired cradle
I LIKE HOW INCONSISTENT SHE IS
slate ravine
if rng not looking good just retry the whatever stage you're fighting
dark widget
they heard we liked gacha so they put gacha in our gameplay
neon rock
Got it
dark widget
neon rock
heady kiln
She's basically Mald the unit.
vestal jacinth
they heard we liked gacha so they put gacha in our gameplay
but wasn't quiry already that?
tired cradle
U WANT HER WITH MAX AMMO WITH BASTION
vestal jacinth
with 3+ defenders lol
hard crown
Not having her sounds better than having her and getting ocd about optimal solo raid damage
neon rock
they heard we liked gacha so they put gacha in our gameplay
Even Nero's s2 is gacha. It's a make or break with it if you plan to use her on train to tank those turret shots 
tired cradle
No,
Minmaxing her is easy btw
Even if she resets,
You only need to wait for max 5s
On average
dark widget
Even Nero's s2 is gacha. It's a make or break with it if you plan to use her on ...
we have bunnies now, bunnies > train
tired cradle
Still 1 copy
marsh basin
- burst with 3 stacks
tired cradle
Yeah not that maldy
random rose
here me out guy's
marsh basin
thats all u gotta focus on
marsh basin
att speed falls off, it falls off
tired cradle
Somehow
marsh basin
just regain stacks
random rose
if you have to wait a few seconds to Burst
random rose
Isabel doesn't need 2 CDR
random rose
neon rock
we have bunnies now, bunnies > train
yeah
random rose
can't use volume Tove in SR sadly
tired cradle
Tiga
random rose
unless you wanna brick Naga Tia
tired cradle
Tiga with Doro
random rose
I don't know what you cooking but if it makes Isabel work i like it
neon rock
Tiga with Doro
vestal jacinth
And control her
should I bother even pulling her
if I don't want to manual her for RNG?
random rose
my guy does not like tove😭
obsidian harness
What about overload priority?
Ammo>Atk>any~~
??
Supports don't need OL rerolls
Just OL them and never roll again
heady kiln
ok so, if I ever got Tove, who goes to her core team?
Tove, CDR, Sugar, and ???
marsh basin
rn wud just be tove s.helm sugar locked in
obsidian harness
ok so, if I ever got Tove, who goes to her core team?
Tove, CDR, Sugar, and ??...
Drake+guilty
Are decent choices
tired cradle
Doro Tiga RH Privaty
marsh basin
everyone else is in the air
tired cradle
marsh basin
this is team 5 btw
vestal jacinth
my guy does not like tove😭
- skill requirements are expensive
- actually having further investment in shotguns
obsidian harness
1. skill requirements are expensive
2. actually having further investment in sho...
Wait no
Bitch
No need for OL max ammo
random rose
yeah
tired cradle
1. skill requirements are expensive
2. actually having further investment in sho...
Skill requirements arent as expensive as 2B.
obsidian harness
Remove that line for my upvote
tired cradle
1. skill requirements are expensive
2. actually having further investment in sho...
- You dont need it
random rose
just the first and last
tired cradle
1. skill requirements are expensive
2. actually having further investment in sho...
- One buffer for all shotguns
obsidian harness
3. One buffer for all shotguns
Bro
random rose
the thing is a buffer for a weapon class is big
obsidian harness
He means that you'll need to invest in sgs
random rose
if a Meta SG release will you ignore her
tired cradle
ITS WIN-WIN
vestal jacinth
YOURE INVESTING IN SG FOR ARENA ANYWAYS
wait even isabel
tired cradle
wait even isabel
who is Isabel?
obsidian harness
YOURE INVESTING IN SG FOR ARENA ANYWAYS
Only noir and drake
random rose
Isabel is not a unit man
obsidian harness
I'm waiting for maiden replacement
vestal jacinth
who is Isabel?
tired cradle
Only noir and drake
Noir Drake Sugar Maiden
tired cradle
Viper
tired cradle
The penta fucker
obsidian harness
Idk man
vestal jacinth
Noir Drake Sugar Maiden
maiden debatable
taunt gets her killed
tired cradle
Its the 5 suit
random rose
Viper is clip Afaik
tired cradle
Water = Viper, Poli, Neve
Fire = Drake, Neon
Iron = Sugar, Marciana
Wind = Noir, Guilty, Pepper
Electric = Maiden, Naga, and I forgot someone. It's just imagination.
obsidian harness
@tired cradle what do you think about
3 bullet max stack for tove
And then she makes SGs wild
vestal jacinth
Water = Viper, Poli, Neve
Fire = Drake, Neon
Iron = Sugar, Marciana
Wind = Noir...
Isabel
and Naga
obsidian harness
Water = Viper, Poli, Neve
Fire = Drake, Neon
Iron = Sugar, Marciana
Wind = Noir...
Isabel is used on bosses bich
pallid ridge
Supports don't need OL rerolls
We get atk from her and more ammo means more Chances? Or was it more than enough?
random rose
Grave Digger SR will save Isabel
tired cradle
Water = Viper, Poli, Neve
Fire = Drake, Neon
Iron = Sugar, Marciana
Wind = Noir...
Done
tired cradle
<@308926283482398720> what do you think about
3 bullet max stack for tove
And t...
Huh?
Tove is broken
You dont trust me?
lucid warren
Tove is broken
speak in comp language
tired cradle
Her team us
obsidian harness
You dont trust me?
Yeah but
The best she's doing is
Buffing maiden's AoE
Redhood does it better
obsidian harness
Tove Dolla/Shelm Sugar FLEX FLEX
No that's fckn pve
nimble moth
I ran some numbers with tove sanis a while before she dropped, tove with a non gimped s1 still dramatically increases sanis dps even if it means her s2 is mostly useless
obsidian harness
Talk pvp
tired cradle
WHY WOULD U WANT TO TOVE IN PVP
vestal jacinth
No that's fckn pve
nah that team dies so fast in hard mode
vestal jacinth
WHY WOULD U WANT TO TOVE IN PVP
OR PVE FOR THAT MATTER
opaque palm
neon rock
WHY WOULD U WANT TO TOVE IN PVP
Shotgun team?
tired cradle
BRO WE ALR KNOW
neon rock
vestal jacinth
Tove Dolla/Shelm Sugar FLEX FLEX
what about for pushing tower? or Hard Mode campaign?
opaque palm
what if they are neutral element
tired cradle
what about for pushing tower? or Hard Mode campaign?
ITS A BOSSING UNIT
lucid warren
look like napkin comp
tired cradle
what if they are neutral element
Then Guilty
vestal jacinth
ITS A BOSSING UNIT
what if the boss does a ton of unavoidable damage
lucid warren
Modernia killer? i got modernia boss left, Iron weakness
opaque palm
Then Guilty
How avout Tove - Marciana - Sugar - Drake - Maiden?
tired cradle
How avout Tove - Marciana - Sugar - Drake - Maiden?
If no CDR its ok
CDR is overrated
tired cradle
It only works
If ur
All 4 SGs are invested
That makes it better to bring no CDR
opaque palm
yes yes, for UR
tired cradle
No
opaque palm
all but maiden are invested
obsidian harness
Tove is an SG buffer
You just need max stacks before full burst. So until you get 3 stacks, you can voluntarily delay for a second or 2 to get maximum stacks!
Now that u have max stacks, you can full burst and then shotguns pew pew
You may drop your S1 during burs but that atk damage buff stays.
Theoretically, at 5% (lvl9 S1), she will keep her stacks at 3 77% of the time
So it's not that big of a hassle
vestal jacinth
That makes it better to bring no CDR
what about Tia/Tove/Naga/Sugar/Drake?
obsidian harness
That's it
tired cradle
Tove is an SG buffer
You just need max stacks before full burst. So until you ge...
I ALR WROTE THE SUMMARY U DIDNT PIN IT
FUCK U
BRO WROTE WHAT I WROTE
obsidian harness
what about Tia/Tove/Naga/Sugar/Drake?
Tia and Naga are core hit buffers
Shotguns tend to.. not core hit
tired cradle
30 mins ago
obsidian harness
<@390152688605593603> pin that
Mf read my pin
tired cradle
Tove is an SG buffer
You just need max stacks before full burst. So until you get 3 stacks, you can voluntarily delay for a second or 2 to get maximum stacks!
Now that u have max stacks, you can full burst and then shotguns pew pew
You may drop your S1 during burs but that atk damage buff stays.
Theoretically, at 5% (lvl9 S1), she will keep her stacks at 3 77% of the time
So it's not that big of a hassle
obsidian harness
Just tell me skill recs
marsh basin
Mf read my pin
i want to make my mark on each thread uwu
obsidian harness
I don't need anything else rn
vestal jacinth
Tia and Naga are core hit buffers
Shotguns tend to.. not core hit
but muh caster attack buff
and cover repair and healing
dark widget
WHY WOULD U WANT TO TOVE IN PVP
I added her to the gen list just incase some1 decided they wanted to
obsidian harness
i want to make my mark on each thread uwu
I'm a bit busy rn with Minecraft
I'll go over thread in a while and see what to pin
heady kiln
Wait, why Marciana with Tove? Doesn't Marciana's S1 get bricked?
random rose
sacrifices
tired cradle
vestal jacinth
Wait, why Marciana with Tove? Doesn't Marciana's S1 get bricked?
Marciana heals just fine with only burst
obsidian harness
To see if it's important enough
tired cradle
**TOVE'S UNIT SUMMARY**
- At Skill 1 level 9 or above and at base ammo, the upt...
Its literally there
Ok im gonna pull her now fk u All
signal torrent
GL
orchid isle
marsh basin
coping that maiden so hard lol
sick torrent
Correct
granite moat
Time for her to shine
230k gem
didn't know u a whale
hot sapphire
i'm banking the day they buff isabel & turn her into GOD - dess
tired cradle
230k gem<:catscared:1065671796709404785> didn't know u a whale
Im not
Im lucky
Unmaxed Tove
Because I dont bother for now
lucid warren
full auto here?
marsh basin
what's the verdict so far?
good enough to warrant a pull
i dont want to overhype
but likely more than good enough
hot sapphire
maiden debatable
taunt gets her killed
you need maiden to be atleast like LB5 or max so she doesn't die. 
tired cradle
Damn 1:50 not even dead
Maiden ded
I wish I had Marciana here
And maybe Guilty
hot sapphire
but likely more than good enough
sounds good. hope she is good in pvp atleast. i don't know about shotguns in pve anymore
vestal jacinth
<:CatThumbup:1098941744445407292> sounds good. hope she is good in pvp atleast....
Just no
noooo
open sphinx
At this point Im expecting the new years limited to be a sg unit
marsh basin
xludmilla is coming out
marsh basin
b3 shotgun dps with cdr
tired cradle
open sphinx
Lmao
open sphinx
How many pulls did she took kisenix
tired cradle
tired cradle
How many pulls did she took kisenix
40
drowsy scroll
1-2 days before release
stuck sleet
we got tove kit 2 weeks ago
open sphinx
I dried after the rh banner so I might pull if the next banner is bad because this chat is selling tove so hard
I'm hooked
stuck sleet
it was 6 days from her event getting mined into her whole kit getting mined
neon rock
TOVE WITHOUT MAX AMMO IS SHIT
Yeah...she badly needs that substat
in order to get stacks consistently
open sphinx
BRO I JUST SPENT 120 AMMO WITHOUT 1 TRIGGER
resets soon 
icy root
Reset go agane
neon rock
You know, if she's an LMG for instance
I think that 5% might not be much of a problem
neon rock
At least someone explained it to me that way, when I used Emma as an example
random rose
how many ammo rolls we looking at
hard crown
- bastion
sick torrent
Sky tried SI modernia. Tove only 9-4-4 there, Sugar 4OL lvl 0s, Scarlet maxed
hard crown
Which boss
sick torrent
Which boss
hard crown
Mod is good for sg units overall
sick torrent
hard crown
Imagine bosses standing farther than that
drowsy scroll
Ultra 
drowsy scroll
why aren’t you using shelm against GD?
tired cradle
Lmao
tired cradle
why aren’t you using shelm against GD?
This isnt gd...
drowsy scroll
oh right, modernia
tired cradle
Sky tried SI modernia. Tove only 9-4-4 there, Sugar 4OL lvl 0s, Scarlet maxed
Sugar?
Maiden supremacy
neon rock
Damn
sick torrent
neon rock
Sugar?
Well I guess this is a case to case basis
Maiden if you need screen wipe
Sugar if otherwise
open sphinx
signal torrent
Well
Is She a skip?
pliant shuttle
I'm seeing it as so.
tired cradle
U havent seen enough
Guilty 2 OL
0 LB
1/1/1
22% elm I mean cus cube and 10%
I think Maiden and Scar get 10% penalty here?
sick torrent
Well
Is She a skip?
I think she's a sleeper. When/if ShiftUp releases meta worthy SG nikke you'd be happy to have Tove
tired cradle
No, Guilty is strong
Guilty is the way
@dark widget
Can u confirm
If elemental disadvantage reduces dmg?
No shit
No shit
SHES AT 3 STACKS
Elemental tho hmm
Let me test somewhere else
drowsy scroll
why does she look like rihanna vs chris brown here?
neon rock
why does she look like rihanna vs chris brown here?
Damn, that went dark quickly
drowsy scroll
that closed eye is some top quality drawing
tired cradle
Huh
Im just gonna use Guilty then
Bro
This 5% is fake
IM NOT GETTING ANY PROCS IN 150 SHOTS
open sphinx
but you have 2-3-3 stacks on the screenshots