[Grave] New Unit Megathread

[willow viper]

Ok

[cunning pecan]

Best Nikke moment

[north hamlet]

We love gambling

[twin ingot]

Grave vs Hard 30 CC

[coarse gust]

Even-though this is blue cp but he is cooking

[twin ingot]

Nah, it's red CP

I went red back in Ch 28

Deficit still quite low tho

[coarse gust]

Yeah u should be at mc with this

https://tenor.com/view/get-to-work-work-simpsons-smithers-trendizisst-gif-15496843

[twin ingot]

I'm slowly making progress, but work's been killing me

I also have over 10 levels saved up, so trying to push to 32 before UR starts so I can use my crates

[frank silo]

that's tomorrow you know

https://tenor.com/view/get-back-to-work-gif-1126008344771276194

[severe oracle]

What are the best teams for grave?

I know she's best support for asuka but anywhere else when having all the characters in the Game?

[twin ingot]

Any DPS unit that relies heavily on burst for damage will actually enjoy Grave

May end up seeing her with RH a lot

[green arrow]

jesus, 1.05m cp before 461

that's just kraken level of whale

[twin ingot]

I don't actually spend that much

I just use my mileage carefully

• good luck with campaign-useful units

All five have SR15 dolls

[peak mural]

how many c7s do you have ?

[cunning pecan]

No atk, only ele

[twin ingot]

36

[peak mural]

[twin ingot]

I mean, compare to those who have all c7s

[median gazelle]

always a bigger fish

or whatever the saying is

[twin ingot]

I won't deny being a whale

[median gazelle]

[twin ingot]

But I'm not even sync 461 as a day 6 player

I strategically spend (I've never directly bought gems; only bundles)

Pretty much just vouchers and skill mats

[peak mural]

nah it's cool

because of guys like you we got a game to play

and i can respect that

[twin ingot]

🤝

Although I refuse to spend during events I dislike

so I'm not always helpful

Loved anni tho

Love Grave

I will 12/12 black line her

[coarse gust]

First black on her

https://tenor.com/view/sumire-yoshizawa-sumire-kasumi-kasumi-yoshizawa-persona-5-gif-5093524295216581380

[severe needle]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-pissi-twitch-7tv-gif-7223094372649290081

[green arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dogs-nikke-gif-27684711

[twin ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/rachel-happy-jealous-friends-jennifer-aniston-gif-8350582

[onyx crown]

12 black soon

[green arrow]

blacked

[coarse gust]

that black line negate the loss of 22ed6.8hr on Grave in indi

[peak mural]

Grave got blacked

[twin ingot]

Why did mine have to be ammo?

[cunning pecan]

9.54

Mfker

[twin ingot]

I just had to sacrifice one ele and crit damage, but now I have third slot ATK... Short-term loss for the long-term benefit

Now I have third-slot on all gear, at least

[coarse gust]

CRIT BUILD

[twin ingot]

I'll take hit rate if it comes, but making sure ele/atk are on third slot first

I've just been showered with crit damage

Had a 14% with a 22% ele earlier

but first/second slot

[coarse gust]

i just need Grave to deal

1billion damage

currently 600ml

[twin ingot]

Doll SR15

[coarse gust]

everything

all the stocks

they get them all

[coarse gust]

Grave got utilized in UR

[green arrow]

could use a 3rd sniper b1 cdr again. liter ramp up too slow. doro is doro

[willow mountain]

Doro is the only reliable CDR we have other than Dwife and Rouge for UR

Well, by "we" you know I mean those of us who rush this

[misty sparrow]

next instant CDR means liter bench

[peak mural]

are you sure about that ?

[heavy belfry]

Wanna bench liter in Ur so bad

[willow mountain]

Liter is for those who want to see that eternal cooldown go from 3 to 0 for their 2nd burst.

Unless you are attacking levels 1-4 in that case you probably won't have to use more than 1 burst

[twin ingot]

For those in high sync, even levels 8-10 can be one burst at times

[misty sparrow]

7 days of raid reduced to 1 hour for high synchro unions is sad

[twin ingot]

Even just with coordination, my union with average 347 cleared in 6 1/2 hours

[coarse gust]

Postage Raid : it's all about sending a message

[silent maple]

Definitely could have been updated to include an SR-like challenge mode

But for some reason, SU's development pipeline requires that everything is feature complete when added, with no possible updates

[silent maple]

Challenge mode would still be: each player in the union chooses 3 teams and a different boss for each team

The damage from each player's highest parse for all bosses are summed together, and Unions are ranked between the highest damage dealt overall.

[iron crescent]

skip, cause mass produced.

[coarse gust]

Triple CDR DPS-Rouge-Grave

[green arrow]

[coarse gust]

Pierce b2 open flexible slot for B3 into other nikkes (thats not Alice/Asuka), expanding b3 pool

middle finger formation (dps distribution)

[coarse gust]

some pierce on neutral rebuild stout ( weak)

[coarse gust]

when there is nothing to pierce

[coarse gust]

in this stage, due to Grave Pierce, the rapture wall in front of boss got cleaved adding up to QeQ Xlud dps coming to boss, pave the way (safer envinronment to focus dps)

adding up to Grave dps comparing to last stage, where no opportunity to pierce

[fleet spoke]

She will taste good with mashed potatoes

[valid mesa]

I wanted to turn that first line hit rate into another elemental line but it's just becoming a huge rock sink. Maybe I'll cut my losses, reset the hit rate to a high number and call it there.

[coarse gust]

lock atk with custom and reroll

ed would net more damage if u looking to use her for dps

could be a black ed next roll, could be hit rate moving to 3rd line, could be both black hr and ed

[coarse gust]

T708 weak 1-1-2-1-1 bronchus (with Grave)

[sand harbor]

So you can basically leave her on auto to do her own thing, right? Are there any shenanigans that involve her not fully reloading before burst?

[coarse gust]

Nope dont worry about her

[coarse gust]

quite strong pre-boss setup

[valid mesa]

She deals slightly more damage if you make sure she never fully reloads as her S2's first stack takes 1.5 seconds to reobtain and stays after burst (while other stacks are lost)

Using her burst while reloading counts as fully reloading - so it requires swapping to her to manually start shooting whenever using burst.

It's generally considered too small a damage gain to bother with, but if fire weak / high investment Grave, it's something to consider.

[coarse gust]

Min max manual Grave 1.5s 1st stack extra.

[valid mesa]

The 1.5s 1st stack does then mean 1.5s more of further stacks too as they start building right from start of full burst

So it's a bit better than it sounds, but again her base damage is so low that unless it's fire element not likely worth bothering

[coarse gust]

Yeah i wouldnt bother trying to mimax for that 1.5 unless its the last couple ml on sth like s7 indi or close clear on fire boss

Most of the comp she goes with would need more control on other nikke, switch to her could lead to damage loss on main dps

[twin ingot]

Agreed

Indivilia with NGE comp is really the only situation to do it atm since Asuka/Rei/Modernia need less manual attention

[coarse gust]

a potential s9 non-alice clear on Indi enabled by Grave (will update when hit s8 and close to s9, lots of improvement from OL - 1b8 short)
The best dps timeline is to cancel all 3 jumps of first phase with pause tech -this enabled another 200-250ml for case below

[twin ingot]

lol, I can see how screwed my Asuka is with only one ele roll

My Grave doing +400 mil from yours but Asuka doing -800

[coarse gust]

Whats Grave stat now plus doll lv

[twin ingot]

Doll is SR15

[coarse gust]

Damn im hoping for 1.2b+ on grave is possible now

[twin ingot]

Very possible

[coarse gust]

Possibruh

[twin ingot]

Both Asuka and Grave cursed with slot 1 and 3 splits

So many rocks needed

[coarse gust]

90ed40atk ok seem reachable

[twin ingot]

My Grave is also C7

[coarse gust]

I just got her to c3, but 4 extra core could be negated by ol from your +400ml

And my lines are in comfortable position to fix

Would loose critdamage but no biggie

[twin ingot]

Yup

[fleet spoke]

Of the fireflies

[misty sparrow]

Idk how lucky you are to always pick a blue or black line

[coarse gust]

Thy hands remain unsullied by 's touch,
Since the days of Eva's Solo Raid.
The Divine Ignis in her radiant grace,
Bestows her blessing upon those
Who stand pure and unblemished,
Free from 's influence.

[shadow topaz]

how much did it cost you?

I did about 500 pulls for cinderella to reach c5, then tickets for the final 2

grave is only lb1 so far after about 100 pulls

[twin ingot]

300 pulls for MLB then 1400 mileage

[shadow topaz]

how many mileage do you have left and is c7 worth it?
I have 2k so I could go for c7 but I wanted to stop at mlb because I need 4 clud, whatever the new christmas nikke (probably 1 copy of the support and mlb for the attacker) + new years pilgrim mlb

[twin ingot]

Uncomfortably down to 1.2k mileage. I regret getting C7 Cindy

I'm a bad person to ask about Grave cuz I C7'd for the character herself. She could've been Isabel-tier and I wouldn't regret it

She's my go-to B2 for hard campaign now tho

[shadow topaz]

we are the same then

but I already have c7 crown for hard campaign

[peak mural]

that's just pure cope

you wouldn't pull if she's Isabel tier

[twin ingot]

No, I would

I have C7 Smol White and Product 12 with OL gear and high skill investment

I have a union mate who C7'd Ade

[fast vigil]

How do you even get C7 Smol? She has banner?

[twin ingot]

Silver mileage

All of the freebies can show up

I started buying the regular voucher bundles to accelerate getting her C7

[fast vigil]

Dang

Dedication

[peak mural]

he probably already max core the required non-pilgrim units already

so silver mileage doesn't mean anything

[twin ingot]

Nah. I'm a collector over a meta player, so I'd rather use my silver mileage on the units that can't be upgraded any other way

I only got SBS to MLB during anniversary

Ein C1, M Priv C3, Tove C2, QeQ LB1, Rouge LB0, etc.

[mystic laurel]

is it worth using tickets to mlb

[twin ingot]

Not unless you're a whale

or you really love the character

Dupes only provide numerical bonuses, so unless you're sweaty or able to afford replenishing your mileage quickly, it's better to save mileage for Xmas limits and/or NY Pilgrim

So far, NY Pilgrims have always been meta defining DPS units

Grave definitely benefits from dupes if you're actually trying to build her to deal damage, but she'll never compare to the likes of SBS and Cindy

As a support, she literally doesn't need dupes; all of her buffs are strictly skill-scaling, so her stats are meaningless in that regard

Those using her for pierce & ammo buffs + burst gen can one copy and done without issue

Let her just spook you

Momo and I are pushing for S9 clears on Indivilia, which is something most people won't do

[misty sparrow]

I love that thing in this game

Dupes are not "necessary"

Good ols are a big part of the character build

[median gazelle]

id keep ~800 gold mileage

if u have more than that why not I guess

[misty sparrow]

I'm only using gold mileage for pilgrims

now we have 5 per year

[median gazelle]

5?

[misty sparrow]

1 new year, 2 on 2,5 and 2 or even 3 next 3,0

6 actually

[median gazelle]

cinderella first though

[twin ingot]

Yup. Good OL LB0 will smash a C7 with trash OLs

Imagine whaling for C7 Alice during her banner but not having charge speed rolls on her

[peak mural]

yup, too much RNG

Nikke's dependence on RNG really hurt the whale's power level

[shadow topaz]

got 2+2 stones today, locked the atk on the chest and the other 2 gave me the crit dmg

[cunning pecan]

Should I 600 gold tix for mlb?

[coarse gust]

https://tenor.com/view/pull-gacha-mobile-game-kermit-gif-8751144

[cunning pecan]

All pack gone, only raw gem available (the scam one)

[valid mesa]

It is tempting to go from one copy to MLB just so my Eva team is even more broken

Asuka is the only core 7 on my account

But her buffs don't even scale with dupes, it would just be to boost her own damage.

[signal cosmos]

Where do you guys have this sheet? Link pls?

I looks like the pvp build team one, but I cant find this one you showed.

Thxx

[twin ingot]

It's my own personal sheet

[low comet]

I ended up spending golden tickets to mlb Grave, first time I've MLBd a Nikke on their release and it was Cindy and Grave at the same time

[coarse gust]

Damn who skipped Grave and hold mlb

Good luck Winter Rapi is b3

[heavy belfry]

looks water to me

[coarse gust]

will see about that

[valid mesa]

Finally done rolling lines. Now I just need another solo raid so I can raise her damn doll.

I guess I could reset crit DMG line to be higher if I really wanted to keep going

[twin ingot]

I'm going to eternally hate this glove

At some point I'll have to free roll it until I get a third line and sacrifice one line

Need December to come for that 12 rock pack

[median gazelle]

can just lock ele

[twin ingot]

And double rock consumption

[median gazelle]

I mean you want a 3 line piece right

[twin ingot]

Yup

Locking to roll a third line is too much gambling for my blood

[median gazelle]

i calculated it’s about the same cost on average

as doing a full roll

[twin ingot]

Yeah, that's paper math tho

[median gazelle]

plus you get to keep a decent ele roll

[twin ingot]

That average could be invisible for 1000 rolls until it levels out

Such is luck

[median gazelle]

same could be said about doing a full roll but yeah

[twin ingot]

Yes

But full roll is 1000 rocks

Locked is 2000 rocks

[median gazelle]

why do I even bother

[twin ingot]

If I were just going for ele/atk, then I'd be more inclined, yeah, but crit damage has a higher % of appearing, no?

(outside of the base 30% for third line)

Oh, seems not

Crit damage same odds as ATK and ele

Why is crit rate higher likelihood than damage?

[coarse gust]

damn if only i could keep that crit damage

[twin ingot]

At least it's first line that needs to be rerolled

[misty sparrow]

[rare sandal]

https://youtu.be/Sphjmke_p24

Gonna drop this here.

Gamechanger for Ultra Stage 4 chasing.

[twin ingot]

Oh, you also figured this out

[silent maple]

What do you mean by chasing?

[coarse gust]

U need to hit s4 before x time to get easier s7 and s9 due to core respawn with healthy hp

[silent maple]

Ah ... and will this help me on my way to stage 5 if I'm currently hitting stage 4 at 40s left?

[coarse gust]

No its not like that

Its for end game people who look to hit s4 in 26second

The effect it might have on you is entirely different

[twin ingot]

lol, the difference in how fed Grave is

Kisenix final damage at end of fight

My Grave damage not even halfway through

[coarse gust]

try to take dps of grave before the first shockwave

@rare sandal what are the dps of both grave at the shockwave

more important than the whole fight dps

[twin ingot]

True

My RH DPS is terribad, so I can't do 26s S4 even with stronk Grave

I'll still check Grave damage tho

[coarse gust]

sth about the position of the grave too i forgot what i was told

[twin ingot]

Actually quite hard to ensure Maxwell hits pods cuz Grave breaks them so quickly

[coarse gust]

no i move MW aim up

[twin ingot]

[coarse gust]

like in the vid

and pause move cursor down

[twin ingot]

Even doing that, I mean

[coarse gust]

release before unpause

maybe your grave got dps inflated

by the pods there

damn the synergy of crown and grave

[twin ingot]

Like I'll upload

cuz this is hilarious

[coarse gust]

alternative defensive but do hit back vs full offensive

[twin ingot]

Wait wut

[coarse gust]

oh :)) indi

[twin ingot]

Somehow uploaded something different

Was wondering why file size was so big

Pods just vanish if my cursor isn't moved before B2

[coarse gust]

you move too slow

the moment u hit RH burst, you already need to swap nikke during simple animation

turn on simple animation to get better swap (for me personally)

[twin ingot]

Oh yeah, Kisenix did aim up at burst

[coarse gust]

new campaign meta actually

2 full powerful nut shot back to back with any dps

[twin ingot]

If I aim up early

[coarse gust]

damn whats the rh stats

[twin ingot]

Terrible

[coarse gust]

[twin ingot]

[coarse gust]

yep no shiet thats low investment

but in a case u dont want to fix crown lines

cuz she is just sp

and then u got grave semi buffer that you building

then in this case, grave can cover the unlucky part on crown gears

just to fill in that small extra dps to bypass the check

and strong buff for all 3 main dps for ultra (RH/Mw/SW)

[twin ingot]

I've been wanting to fix iron DPS rolls for a while

but helmets are actually what I'm doing best on

so I've been delaying Ultra (especially since we haven't had iron-weak raid after the double)

Lemme do a full run where I don't screw up QTE

[misty sparrow]

[twin ingot]

I had 11 mil more on Liter, 167 mil more on Grave, 30 mil less on RH, 329 mil less on Maxwell, and 2 mil more on Crown (net -179 mil) ... but S5 clear

Oh the insane difference that first 26s makes

[misty sparrow]

Yeah

The first 26s are the important thing in ultra battle

[coarse gust]

how your experience with new cook

[misty sparrow]

New cook?

Grave one?

[coarse gust]

the grave crown in ultra

ye

[misty sparrow]

My grave is 7/7/7 no ols I tried and I did less dmg

[onyx crown]

[coarse gust]

its aight, at least u didnt 777 phantom

[twin ingot]

Like I did

[misty sparrow]

I didn't pull for phantom lol

imagine having mats for everyone

Only Gatrix can

[twin ingot]

Oh right, I did even more

[onyx crown]

7/7/4

[misty sparrow]

[onyx crown]

that's very low

if you don't have, you probably overly invest

[misty sparrow]

I spent everything in cindy

10/7/10

[onyx crown]

same here

doesn't break me, and I have 5/10/10 Laplace mind you

[coarse gust]

DAMN WTF

i should ditch mw and build SW

[twin ingot]

Yeah

SW way stronger

That's how I usually do my clears

Oh right, I need to show off my newest poisonous cooking

Messed up the i-framing at the end so S Sakura died like 10s away

but S7 Kraken with Grave

[rare sandal]

2nd account?

[twin ingot]

Main account

[rare sandal]

Hell, I never check, but I did pause a lot for the whale account (I deal more damage without pausing kekw).

[coarse gust]

bro why everyone on life support or ded

[twin ingot]

Cuz I failed an i-frame at the end

Without Crown, you have to i-frame the AoE blasts

Didn't time the last one properly

[rare sandal]

Isn't that fucking obvious

But like honestly

[coarse gust]

[rare sandal]

Waste of mats

[twin ingot]

Though only reason to use Grave over Crown for Kraken is if one doesn't own Crown

[coarse gust]

my Sw is very easy to fix

high crit%

[rare sandal]

Maxwell didnt collat bruh

Oh yeah I forgot to add in the vid

THAT U NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO RH'S SHOTS

Cus she'll oneshot the chambers

Thats why I jiggle up and down

I mean it shud be somewhat obvious ngl

[rare sandal]

Maybe?

I get higher score with that rotation.

But that doesn't mean it will work for you.

Once you hit Stage 4, you are guaranteed Stage 7.

[silent maple]

you mean hit stage 5?

i can hit stage 4, but my damage drops like a rock

[twin ingot]

You're hitting stage 4 before 26s?

Cuz that's what matters

Stage 4 after 26s, your highest hope is probably stage 6 unless you have true god stats

[coarse gust]

she will steal every buff

[misty sparrow]

bro, go buy the lottery pls

I cant understand your luck

[coarse gust]

OMGGGG

S8 INDI TODAY (no im fking sucked)

[misty sparrow]

Nah I'm playing bad this game

Time to quit

[vernal grail]

Two Black lines is insane

[coarse gust]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-hood-evil-innerme-gif-6609353235634358835

[tulip carbon]

Who are you and what have you done to the real Momoland?

[twin ingot]

Pilgrim vs Mother Whale

forgot that Cindy existed

[iron crescent]

Could have been on Flora smhmh

[shadow topaz]

can somebody explain how my sr15, 10 7 10, 36% atk 36% crit dmg grave barely outdamages my crown on the water weak union boss

[green arrow]

shooting range boss has core

doesn't benefit pierce

[shadow topaz]

ah ok thx

[tulip carbon]

Crown offense buffs also affect herself, and they’re delicious buffs

[shadow topaz]

yeah I know

but crowns base damage is so low compared to other mg, iirc she has half the % of moderbia for example

[tulip carbon]

Oh

Interestingly the CP of both are similar, 100k (Grave) vs 109k (Crown)

Would’ve thought with the maxed doll and all, your Grave would be much higher in CP

[shadow topaz]

crown is c7 with sr 15 doll as well

[shadow topaz]

nvm, this is mod, crown and clud

modernias is just so much higher lol

[shadow topaz]

and grave is mlb

[coarse gust]

-avoid over optimizing atk on OL due to stealing buff from low atk maxwell (in Ultra)

[valid mesa]

If an Attacker is having a buff stolen by a supporter that's on you tbh. Grave only has a ~15% ATK self buff going into full burst.

Of course then you risk doing what I did and over investing Maxwell, leading to her stealing her own buff when used as a slot 5 buffer

[cunning pecan]

Sr 15 sure compensate for lb0 right?

[twin ingot]

It will help a lot, yeah

[silent maple]

Does Grave deserve an SR5 or is she fine at SR0?

[misty sparrow]

She deserves

Good sub DPS so yeah, put her the SR5 one

[silent maple]

Hmm. The difference is that she's at R0 right now, so SR5 would take blue mats that I don't have, while SR0 would be instant

[twin ingot]

R0 to SR0 is a waste of an R doll

[silent maple]

...you have a lack of R dolls?

also, at this point it's a sunk cost, so it doesn't matter

[median gazelle]

R dolls can be transformed into mats

[median gazelle]

but yea

[twin ingot]

Lack of AR dolls, yes

[green arrow]

sr5 because she has to go healerless

any extra defensive stat is helpful

there's no b1 cdr that heals yet

[coarse gust]

Ideally she want ReiA protection but she got yoinked away again for top dawg team

[cunning pecan]

need more ele and atk on Grave. Maybe can get higher than my brick asuka

[coarse gust]

Grave might need Ammo here

to keep her in Heat Emission status

it help the Mgs in case of reloading downtime cant generate burst enough

[valid mesa]

Ammo won't make loading time any longer

Just don't stick resilience on her

[coarse gust]

Oh?

[valid mesa]

And/or manual to stop her fully reloading by meerkatting out of cover

Reload time is irrelevant to ammo size

[coarse gust]

She still reload same amount of time?

[valid mesa]

Yes

[coarse gust]

[valid mesa]

I don't know if clip reload takes longer with max ammo

But normal reload definitely doesn't

You can manually control her to keep her reloading forever

But the. You aren't controlling anyone else

But also just max her S1 and bring a CDR, you should be bursting again before she reloads

You've got 4 seconds to burst again

Which is ages

[tulip carbon]

It can with clip, I don't think they ever fixed or changed it, but seems people stopped caring about it

So maybe...

Basically it used to be the case that unit like Drake would need to reload 4 times (clip ammo) to finish fully reloading, if the ammo number wasn't ideal

While if it was ideal, she'd only take 3 reloads

But no one talks about that now, so, I guess, nobody cares anymore or it was fixed

[valid mesa]

no clip DPS I guess

not super meta ones at least

so nobody cares

[onyx crown]

nobody cares sadly

the clip DPS is Sugar and Drake

[valid mesa]

is Viper clip?

[onyx crown]

Viper is spellcaster

[silent maple]

BSoda is clip

[balmy grove]

^bSoda is clip

and most guides during her launch mentioned the mechanic

[silent maple]

the only thing I'm aware of when it comes to BSoda and reloading is the large delay before she does so, not that she has more reload loops because of increased ammo

[balmy grove]

as long as clip SG do not have max ammo count of 3n+1, they will only reload the normal 3 times
if 3n+1, they're forced to reload once more for the remaining clips, totaling 4 times, DPS loss

[silent maple]

so the bad breakpoints are (4) (7) 10 13 16 19 22 etc?

[tulip carbon]

Rephrased to "ideal is ammo in multiples of 3, including when buffed"

So you want 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, 33, 36...

If it's not in these numbers, with exception of being under 3 (wtf), you'll see clip ammo characters go through 4 mini reloads to reach full reload

[silent maple]

no, that's not what @balmy grove said

[tulip carbon]

~~The reason is the reload is an amount capped by 1/3 of full ammo. So if it's a multiple of 3, the game can cleanly divide it - Let's use 15 ammo as the example: 5, 5, 5 = 15. Done full reloading in 3 reloads.

If you instead had 16 or 17 ammo, the game can't do this.

• 5, 5, 5, 1 = 16
• 5, 5, 5, 2 = 17

That's where the 4 reloads come from. The game does not stuff the remaining ammo into the 3rd reload, unfortunately, and instead opts to bump the remainder out to a 4th reload.~~

~~So if you happen to somehow have merely 4 ammo, the following happens:

• 1, 1, 1, 1 = 4~~

I believe that's what apathy essentially said, only he phrased it with a double negative

[silent maple]

he said if they do not have 3n+1, they will only reload 3 times. If they do have 3n+1, they will reload 4 times

that means both 3n and 3n+2 only reload 3 times

[tulip carbon]

Hmm, so 3n+2 would be a safe 3 reloads? I probably can check that in a bit if any of my clip SGs have this

I just went in with Bunny Soda, checking ammo..

17 ammo. That's 3n+2

[silent maple]

lul, all of my clips are 15

[tulip carbon]

3 reloads, each one was 6

Very nice

6, 6, 5 = 17

[tulip carbon]

Looks like a yes for rounding reasons

My Noir has 13 ammo

Confirmed took 4 reloads:
4, 4, 4, 1 = 13

Good thing Noir reloads extremely fast, the reload bar literally blurs by quickly

[coarse gust]

love the burst gen here, only 1 MG.
RapiRh could be a nice sub for Dwife (if needed), which free other slot from being an MG.

[opaque wigeon]

What do I prioritize on her ol gear? Or does it matter?

[onyx crown]

doesn't matter

she's strong this raid because Fire Weak + high pierce uptime

just like Crown can be strong on Iron Weak + high core uptime

doesn't change the fact she's still a buffer only

[coarse gust]

Atk >ed and bonus crit damage/hit rate
But dont try to fix her hard she is only mostly buffer who can deal “bonus” damage

[mighty mist]

should I raise more skills of her from 7/7/10?

[heavy belfry]

Only raise S2 if she has good overload gear

[mighty mist]

so 71010 at max?

[heavy belfry]

101010

Gain in burst gen is mainly for mgs