[Rei Ayanami] New Unit Megathread | NIKKE Community | Page 3

ripe pewter Sep 11, 2024, 1:14 AM

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Rem will make a comeback and take the next top water dps after xLud on water weak boss kekw

hollow fog Sep 11, 2024, 4:35 AM

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Rem's biggest issue is she exists to buff Emilia (B3 RL, who lacks self-ATK buffs).

Emilia doesn't need to burst, so when a future B3 is added we could see:

Liter/Rem/Laplace/??/Emilia

Be a viable team?

Or if we get a second water code RL B3, just slaughter every water weak soloraid.

A Rem comeback isn't impossible, but she needs a very specific kind of Nikke to be added

ripe pewter Sep 11, 2024, 5:46 AM

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watch as SU release the next RL an electric/fire unit(s) and they goes to Rei/SAnis

gaunt zinc Sep 11, 2024, 9:25 AM

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too much burst 2 to compete

steep depot Sep 12, 2024, 3:08 AM

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Treasure Laplace is fine. She's not Red Hood or Modernia tier, but she's definitely on par with other Missilis Nikke like Maxwell.

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The problem is just that Treasure Laplace is clearly meant for some sort of True Damage team with Treasure Frima, and we don't have the full team comp for that niche yet

sly osprey Sep 12, 2024, 3:39 AM

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different use

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tire

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Maxwell deals decent dps (pretty shitty compared to other dps) but provides buff

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Laplace deals more dmg but not enough to offset that 40% ATK buff

steep depot Sep 12, 2024, 4:10 AM

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Maxwell is a support-hybrid. Her damage is respectable, but you primarily pair her up to buff your primary attacker

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Treasure Laplace is an Iron Attacker. As anyone who's done the recent Overlock mode can contest, she works really well there, but she doesn't have any true self-steroids of her own, and her true damage / damage to parts isn't high enough to justify taking her outside of Electric raids / bosses. She'll make a good showing at the next Electric raids

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Because Maxwell is a support. Laplace is a primary attacker. The metrics are different.

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Yes, because you judge them based on different metrics. Normal Laplace is mid. Treasure Laplace is quite good, but not as strong as the meta attackers right now and we don't really have a dedicated team for her at the moment, so she only really shines when she has Elemental Advantage (although that might change if we get more support for a True Damage team)

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Okay, and how many people had Treasure Laplace in the last Electric SR?

sly osprey Sep 12, 2024, 4:16 AM

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watchu

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Privaty top 50 raid use

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100%

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that shit crazed

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choquay

steep depot Sep 12, 2024, 4:17 AM

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A fully upgraded, level 3 Laplace?

sly osprey Sep 12, 2024, 4:17 AM

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shrug

steep depot Sep 12, 2024, 4:17 AM

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Yes, because Privaty is another support designed to support a dedicated team comp with plenty of other units.

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Treasure Laplace is designed as an attacker for a new True Damage niche, and we only really have 3 units for it

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And the only other real True Damage Attacker is Ein, who is great, but is currently slotted in the Electric team due to synergy with S. Anis and Treasure Exia

sly osprey Sep 12, 2024, 4:18 AM

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MC is designed for Ein, with shitty 1 tap mechanic

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anisBruh

steep depot Sep 12, 2024, 4:19 AM

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This argument is functionally identical to all of the nonsense we had to deal with when Tove came out. The Shotgun meta took a long time to form

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Treausure Laplace takes a long time to get, and frankly Treasure Exia is much higher priority

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Because supports generally pay off more in the long run once a dedicated unit in their niche comes out

sly osprey Sep 12, 2024, 4:20 AM

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watchu

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should I dig all the comments slander Tove?

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when she was released?

steep depot Sep 12, 2024, 4:21 AM

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Either way, Tove got a lot of unnecessary hate when she came out

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Turns out, she was actually incredible once she got more support for her niche

unborn geyser Sep 12, 2024, 4:21 AM

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by snake got it

sly osprey Sep 12, 2024, 4:21 AM

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and people also slandered Asuka too

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damn that shit crazed

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steep depot Sep 12, 2024, 4:22 AM

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Also, Treasure Laplace wants Treasure Frima... who honestly is the lowest priority of all of the Treasure units so far.

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Either way, judging a unit by their ability to fit into a meta that doesn't really support them is a waste of time. We have 4 True Damage units so far. We don't have a dedicated True Damage team yet, to the point where Treasure Laplace fans were coping and claiming that she could be viable if you paired her up with Rem

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Clay is arguably the worst unit released this year.

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Treasure Frima requires level 3 investment for relatively low payout right now, and Ein has a fine team right now in the dedicated Electric team.

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I honestly think that Treasure Laplace is fine right now. She just won't really shine until we get the dedicated True Damage team, in the same way that Tove was considered hot garbage, and yet Tove's shotgun team made a respectable showing in the latest solo raid even without using Fire SG units

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Also, you're right that the initial reviews of the Tresure units overhyped Treasure Laplace. Like a lot of the Treasure units, Treasure Laplace is only useful if her Favorite unit is fully upgraded

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Treasure Exia is the best Treasure Nikke so far

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Yes, and she became worth investing in because everyone knew that Shift-Up had been trying to make the SG team viable for almost a year

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so we knew that a strong B3 SG Nikke like B. Soda was coming down the pipeline eventually.

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In the same way that we're clearly going to get more True Damage support in the near future

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Some units are future investments. Some units pay off right now.

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I dunno. I picked Treasure Laplace personally, and while it was a bit frustrating that I clearly should have picked Treasure Exia in retrospect for Mirror Container, Treasure Laplace has been mulching everything in the Missilis Tower fairly well

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I agree that as long as XP containers for dolls are so limited, you need to spend them wisely

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Even if you like Treasure Laplace, I think she's on the lower priority side compared to the other Treasure units (aside from Treasure Frima, who can be placed firmly on the backburner until we get more True Damage units)

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And plenty of units were pretty bad in Mirror Container. The last thing you wanted was a RL Nikke like Laplace that didn't even have Elemental Damage advantage to screw up one of the parts

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As the roster gets wider, Shift-Up will have more and more flexibility in designing more niche bosses... which will always be a pain when it turns out that you didn't invest in one of the "intended" units for that raid

gaunt zinc Sep 12, 2024, 4:42 AM

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i built laplace because pvp

prime furnace Sep 13, 2024, 1:03 PM

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Neither of those are correct.

Laplace has had .3% to 2.7% use and Maxwell has had 62.7% to 100% use thonk

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Your point stands that Maxwell is on another tier to Laplace when it comes to usability though (in raids, at least) delugiggle

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Maxwell didn't fair so hot in Mirror Container raid, only used 62.7%, her second lowest usage (as well as the second time she's ever dropped below 90%, the first and worst time being Crystal Chamber at 41.7%)

tight gate Sep 13, 2024, 2:24 PM

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Crown goes with the best DPSs of the raid

flint basin Sep 13, 2024, 2:33 PM

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Maxwell still effective and more people had her built and invested before

unborn geyser Sep 13, 2024, 5:09 PM

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Rei Aya thread: where people discuss other nikkes more than Rei herself peepoRunCry

prime furnace Sep 13, 2024, 5:18 PM

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The fate of the most forgettable unit of the three heh

wispy prairie Sep 13, 2024, 6:28 PM

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She made modernia shine again

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yay

flint basin Sep 13, 2024, 6:49 PM

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wispy prairie She made modernia shine again

Needed to make Modernia shine as brightly as Crown heh

broken bone Sep 13, 2024, 11:41 PM

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Rei>Asuka

wispy prairie Sep 13, 2024, 11:59 PM

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ViperPog

unborn geyser Sep 14, 2024, 12:02 AM

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Rei>Asuka , why? Cuz Rei buffs Alice and Modernia
Maxwell > Asuka , why? Cuz Maxwell buffs Alice
Mari >Asuka, why? Cuz Mari buffs Alice
Privaty > Asuka, why? Cuz Privaty buffs Alice
Admi > Asuka, why? Cuz admi buffs Alice
Sbs > Asuka, why? Cuz SBS eat Alice speedy carrot
RH > Asuka, why? Cuz RH also eat Alice carrot
Pull Alice, roll all rock into her, win WICKED