#[Rei Ayanami] New Unit Megathread
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what is this thing
Shit doesn't use half of my gpu

UR still up, no way they can kick you
It isn’t up for me though?
still calculating so i though still up
Hmm we saw Rei's effect on mod
Now we need Asuka effect on mod
And then Rei effect on asuka 
Liter blanc Asuka noir mod
Liter blanc Asuka noir
Liter blanc Asuka Rei noir
Ah calculations
That should give us everything
Damn Nike shitty game
I need to wake up in 2.5 hours so I'll be here soon 
Noooo
Bye snake
Sleep well
Yeah gn is too mainstream I'm gonna use sleep well now
gn man
gn oddstreamer 
Did we confirm if Rei’s shield is individual? I forgot to check
Yeah, individual. As expected
What happened?
and read the message before today
Is she good now? lol
she's good in fire raid but meh in others
if they know how to read now prolly yes
I haven’t seen any conclusive verdicts yet
when someone steal pilgrim kit, you know she is good 
we don't have any till next raid
Lmao
they still child so they wanted more
Asuka want to be independent and not rely on anyone else
Water is wet
snake said asuka + rei + mod = super stronk combo
technically she doesn't need to full charge except for shield mechanics so yeah

Mary is seggs
Even Rh snow Maxwell is possible

I don't think that would be a legit team
because you want a cdr and healer/shields
Just Max core everyone
true
Survive easy
Asuka without CDR or healer is a menace to society
And if so what is her objective
And what’s the squad look like
sky math
tldr asuka and rei just kidnapped mod from bunnies
not out yet
I’m slow

Also with the information we got with Mari is it fair to make an assumption yet?
check pins on mari

Well
Show me some vids on it
If the chapter was weak to fire
And you had all three built really well
Why not?

They just feel to pack so much raw power without proper support on other stuff man
using 3 of your best fire dps in a single team, not to mention 2 out of the 3 (4 if coping) shield breakers
Hehe that’s the truth for mostly Solo Raid, right?
sure for campaign
you want mod to burst so they won't work
Depending on the fight, you have to split counter element.. IF there is an elemental QTE
its all 1 post so you really can't react to one
If there isn’t one, then it’s possible to just stack the counter element
cindy will save water 
I like XLud 

ask sky idk
I just realized @unborn geyser
yep
She is so bad even on element
How much max ammo u have on her
Kira says 2 enuf but she keeps reloading right before her burst i dont get it lol
Like 2 lines sth
XLud weakens a lot without a core to zero in on
maybe off burst duration of xlud debuff helped
that team has so little burst gen
But when there’s a core, she feels so nice to have on team sometimes
Kira's 2 lines is probably 140%+ or someshit
I assume they have a decent chunk of time in offburst
Cus my XLud def needs more
ITS YOU WTF
No its you asking me about it
Holy fake news nokia flipping
You want me to screenshot the prydwen thread
dont worry
i gotchu homie

Scroll more bottom.

you can revise the review then eh, ping Anti to release
rei SSS campaign 
Why is rei fire she feels like water

the Tanky raptures still alive though so u gotta kill them still, need to clarify just in case 
Is rei a 7/7/7 or 4/7/7 character?
Rei can just take whatever left from my stash after I 10/x/10 Mari 
thats what I will use on her tho but thats suboptimal
thats same as saying naga is 7-7-4
nihi cope
I mean according to math they do better than other off ele team as team 5 by a good margin
and nvidia killer
yep its not naga level
but shooting her in the leg with suboptimal skills is 
we really need supporters with 1 loaded skill and 2 fluff ones
these books can't keep up
hmm, due to my skill issue, using triple fire without healer on SR is too risky for me, I might need to separate one of them 
~~Imagine talking like I already own Rei
~~
I feel like s1 is just ok
S2 is a nice fire party buff
Burst is the biggest buff with aoe damage
where are the rei testing pics/vid smh
:kaka:
Do whales even care
Quiry
So she is bad then 
work in pvp?
More like mid than bad, I think
Quite decent
Interesting asuka buff is good
Oh I forgot that Rei is an attacker with caster’s attack. That’s just like Red Hood. Except just 25% at max… but still
Tbh maybe there’s something genius in that statement
If the problem is moving tiers around, then change it to a system where you just add points
First, scarlet was SSS tier, like 100 points
Then later Red Hood is even better, woulda been tier SSSS right? Just set her to be 130 points
Stack them like this
No need to change units down or up in relation to other units
Heck it even exemplifies power creep accurately
I feel that would rub people the wrong way
when I played in day 1, all characters had to work together to kill a world boss
now I can use latest char to solo boss

that shit crazed

Soooooooooo did anyone tested rei yet?
ShiftUp, you really rig this banner shamelessly
Luck is RNG, I just MLB’d Rei in 110 pulls
I’m happy and the memory of 190 pulls to get 1 freaking copy of Summer Sakura is in the past
Joeover?
How to check pin msg on phone
Tap thread name on top > settings > pinned messages
did you get 190 white pulls?
White pulls?
Just go here no?
Swipe whichever direction gives you this idk my directions?
I think
And then tap pins if it shows the pinned messages
yea
No, I got spooks instead, like mad losing the coin flips between 50% pickup character and 50% anyone else on hitting a SSR. It was back to back anyone else until the 190th pulls
I’d be bald if it was ‘til 190 no SSRs at all
What does white pulls mean
no SSRs in 100
who calls standard white
^
Oh I see
its probably leftover terms from an older gacha
because when you pull the lock, it spark white aura?
Generally, I just call it "attempts"
wait...
h u h
pulls without ssr you just call white
and your reason is from this gacha specifically
In perm banner?
generally standard banners are called standard. not just all pulls
also white pulls in some gacha games mean literally white, no SSR, no special
Another game I used to play, it wasn't called white. Even the players from the discord didn't call it that
As long as it’s understood, it’s fine. If it’s too esoteric, we’ll just educate you on what’s correct 
Tbh I don’t even know of a proper term for having no SSRs over many pulls, but I know what words the puller will be saying

just checked
this and your recent one are the only 2!!! posts that have ever said white poll the rest are saying snow white
Yea
Not really spelling, it's just in the context of the word used
No... i didnt know how to spell white until just now
kekw look like mine, bad ol rei 
not sure
Still seems like Rei is easily outclassed
but timing pretty good
reload while non burst phase
full burst phase alway have full ammo
too early to say "easily"
with 10+3 cube
Let’s say Rei gave Modernia and Asuka 250m more dmg
Then that’d still be pretty good
But this seems to show Asuka gained nothing off Rei?
Same dmg with Rei and without Rei?
Even gained more dmg without Rei 
yap wierd
Alice Carrot eater?!
wait till weekend, overload gap should close and we see better
oh shit she does my asuke atk buff too weak
Odd the whole team except Modernia did more dmg
Is it that the team entered Full Burst faster or something?
so, rei is scarlet but MG?
is Rei good?
with shied buff
Rei is pretty fire
You forgot something important
Rei is sober
her burst is AOE I'll go test boss with mobs
so if snek and kisenik here we get proper prydwen review?
nah wtf this is true
honestly scarlet is better since rei is a limited time unit
you can still "improve" scarlet post rei banner with coping for dupes
B3 attacker that buffs team with ATK% is neat though
also Rei's shield being on her burst is so ass
Oh hey
Just realized
Crown + Rei shields stack? Can that be actually nice survival?
stack as hard as Tia + Crown
then do tia crown and rei
gatrik-chan
can Rei beat silencers?
crown, rei, mod
triple MG
Oh right, fire allies only 
not wasting resources or team slots
I wonder if Mari will make an Asuka and Rei team mad broken
wanna know what's crazy?
D - Nihi - Asuka - Rei - Mod
damn

full attacker, full fire
should be insane dps
boss with mobs (change cube to reload speed)
reload speed cube kinda feels better ther warm up is half (With Crown)
i think i should OL nihilister for this solo raid
This looks very nice
they buff mod damage post liter-rosana by 50%
its kinda insane
who was laughing when zxous was right REI is better than asuka
rei is definitely not better than asuka
shes more versatile unit.
nope
she is usable when she buffs 2 other units
thats not "flexable"
even opposite of it
@edgy wave Question: Rei worth pull Meta wise?
I don't feel comfortable to make desicions for others. Not everyone feels the same but you can get some directions by backreading this chat and watching sky's vid on the rei team
I second that sentiment from Elija. Anytime I’m asked if she’s worth pulling, it’s burdensome to answer because if I say “Yes, pull hard!” and I’m wrong or didn’t give enough consideration to their roster, circumstances, and priorities, I might be causing them significant regrets
I think Rei has better prospects than Rem though 
Surely will be great past one or two months?!
Rei is so ass I have to think before selling that shit to Texas
and he buys everything anyway


f**boy

I got 12% ele for Red today
may be it's the day

did you abuse the low hp% buffs ?
Did you use the low hp atk buffs?
nvm lets not flood this chat
i think have good team for rei
cdr-nihilister-rei-helm-modernia
man, nihil cope is so bad
Probably very good? I can do Indivilia healerless with Crown and this was without a proper team. Only one death toward the near end
Should you Pull? / Is she good?
Pull one copy at least. She is good for raids. She is decent for campaign, and she is ok for PvP as well.
Yet again, dupes for competitiveness or if you want to fuck Rei's mlb lobby.
No short summary this time, let's go straight into:
Why is she good?
Rei is a B3 MG attacker who isn't quite modernia level when it comes to her own personal DPS, but one thing she can do is buff her fire (🔥) code allies. And that, she can do pretty well. So well in fact that she is the final piece to the fire DPS trio of Asuka, Rei and Modernia, which will often be found in raids from what the current theorycrafts are.
Modernia is the main DPS.
Asuka is the possible tanker, core hit buffer, and will also use her ability to multiply her damage using pierce.
And finally, Rei. The dps who'll buff both asuka and modernia's final damage by upwards of 20%, EACH! Not only that, she can also provide shields, which allows Asuka to gain an extra boost of elemental damage when the boss is fire weak, cementing the trio's placement in Fire Solo Raids. A good point to note and add is apart from this shield giving elemental buff to Asuka, the other buffs that Rei and asuka provide benefit the team on every element. Hence, this fire team has a strong case of being used even when elemental damage is not in play 
that ia crown

so the team consist of asuka-rei-mod
alice in other team?
I assume we will feel the need to split them apart
because we don't have enough good fire units for qte
coping with nihilister pfftt
but after this raid they are a good trio
S.Rosanna for B2
- asuka-alice (DKW)
- rei-mod
- 2B
- A2
- nihilister, trony, kilo
- yulha, miranda with SW
- C R O W
if boss shield game is strong in this raid, might as well split all 3 collab unit
crow 
a2 
2b on shields 
man this raid will be a shitshow
Alice-Asuka-Rei-Mod-DKW
one for each team in case elemental shield 
well, according Mirror raid, could be 2 fire in 1 team
- Ein-SAnis (Exia treasure)
- Naga with liter boost
- MPriv shotguns
- Scarlet
- Guillotine
asuka buffs alice/mod a lot that I don't think they'd be separated
move to #raid-planning
classic snake sentence
Yeah, Alice can't be in it because Rei and asuka both need to burst
it's a good thing SBS wants Alice no matter what
It's fine if you discuss it here
Cuz it's relevant
we are already ther dw
^
my 2b 111 too ,reset her last time
The split is still Asuka Rei mod
Mod just roped together the new units with her instead of letting them make a new team
So is S Rosanna the best B2 for Asuka and Rei?
srosanna bring the best buff for them
"problem" is
the buff is just 39%
so, kinda mid
No dilution
Essentially
Crown can help other nikkes more
Tia Naga can help other nikkes more
Crown and Tiga are still the best buffers for them
But s.rosanna can just help these nikkes the same as they would to another unit
technically blanc also works if you only need to use 2 of the fire trio, any of the 3 benefit from Noir ammo too. but if you don't want to burst with Noir, then you need to move Mod elsewhere
maybe unless rouge is a b1 cdr
no burst gauge is kinda kek
Just give up on burst gen if running trio lol
well, the original optimized team with S.Ros+3 fire also didn't have any burst gen. but maybe the timing could align with 0 cdr 
doro is a b1 cdr unit, I don't think she will be retired soon
i did MLB her by "accident"
Reflect % of final attack damage to the attacker as true damage

I understand. Sadly i have no s. Rosanna. Who else can i use?
it seems the true trio in fire raid are mari asuka alice so mod is with rei only
Only time will tell
Is she worth using mileage for one copy of her? My luck is sheety bad today
Depends on how many you got
600+ iwill say yes
Agree with ^^ here
ok, thanks
As of right now, SRossana is preferable B2, why is that exactly?
damage amp
yes
I haven't heard srosanna being preferable b2 in any team except SG which bunnies are ruling
Outside of Crown and duos, she's first in line when CDR isn't necessary 
She's optimal when attack and attack damage buffs are saturated
Asuka's attack buffs are huge
a
Yeah B1 CDR / Rosco / Asuka / Rei / Modernia should hit like an absolute truck as a raid team
Especially if not fire weak so Asuka only being shielded every second burst is irrelevant
66% ele and 13% ATK on Rei already 
Which I could get those rolls on stronger DPS units 
skill just 7/7/7 in pins?
777 -> 101010
okay
Rei gives shield, Crown gives shield. How much shield u need
she worth OL ?
I know right

it's like putting Xlud and Mod together
and say: Damn, Mod deals more dmg than Xlud

I actually expect Asuka more personal damage
that's quite rough because
- Liter and Rei give ATK buff which benefits Asuka less than Mod
- Mod has free 60% core dmg buff
I assume this is on ele neutral
and last but not least
non pierce

iirc in shooting range, Alice deals at max, as much as Mod

It is. So huge that it swamps Liter and Rei's attack buffs
Yeah pull one copy of all 3
Tell union to do the same



@sly osprey stop fkn around
I think
nikke gg is not updated
he doesn't have time to maintain that section anymore
it's super taxing

and the view is not so great
even Nikke.gg hasn't updated theirs
need clean raptures portrait
twist his balls Snake
nikkewin is good
It's dead
Is it?
Wtf he added everyone

I checked during zwei it was dead
it was ded till ein and suddenly everything got added
not sure how long will it last but
I see
just delete rapture encyclopedia
as gatrix said, i think he's too busy
Maybe he forgor?
wow so much big change
nikkegg.win
Pull or die
worth getting more than 1 copy? (I need to save for anniv)
i copy is enough
So how's Rei? Is she good?
But check pins. There’s already a post explaining whether she’s good
to be exact it's mari>asuka>rei
We will get a beautiful B1 instead
Just wait for Grave who will be B1 with burst that copy's B3 burst
she's free nikke
watch ShiftUp pull up something ridiculous like quadruple banner of chime + cinderella + modernia rerun + crown rerun and triple gacha outfit of Modernia, Crown, and idk, cinderella
that.. is never going to happen

but yeah if we get double banner…

i think ill have to take the L on next solo raid unit
tho my wishlist never fucking works so ill be bricked
still no privM
we're currently in an update with triple limited ssr's that are never going to be reran, quadruple battle passes (fifth if we count asuka running with Naga), and a gacha outfit being ran on an update who's previous update already ran a gacha outfit.
yeah but they’re not going to rerun crown and modernia banners on anni lol
this isn't about if it's going to happen, at this rate, it's a matter of when

i think this is also a special case, cause eva is a giant ip and they want to milk people for it
its also 4 battle passes, not 5 (naga, asuka, rei, mari)
and i don’t really think monthly passes should count towards that, cause they always run regardless and it’s been up for a WHILE
Tbf, free units have been mid so far.
Well lately welfare ssr during anniversary were good units for new players
Kilo smol white good units for people starting the game

I guess that was the goal of those units
Non for tryhard hard deficit 40%+ anomaly stage 9 or top 50 solo raid
Smol White in general outdamages normal Scarlet for me in Hard Campaign 
Sure, OG Scarlet is mid now as well aside from Electric-weak content and PvP, but that's still a huge bonus for people without every unit
For hard deficit 40% or higher, pretty much every unit in the game is crossed out 
There's like a viable pool of what, eight Nikkes? 
6~8 likely
but is she also useful outside of fire weak stage?
Momo is using asuka in hard deficit, if you need some help tag him
Momo also posted a video in her megathread as reference

dont force her use, if stage is weak to electric, just use electric meta
she is just good at boss rushing and eliminate elites
just a thing about Ein/Sanis/Scarlet is they have weak boss rushing capability (in swamp environment), so when there is window, asuka is good flex into
im a female now apparently
i was wrong, Sanis missle on burst focus the rapture at cursor
Wasnt it highest atk?
oh true i read the skill again, but i dont know why in some run my sanis doesnt focus the silence PSID
i just clear again while aiming at the psid so i said so
■ Activates when firing the last bullet. Affects 2 enemy unit(s) with the highest ATK. Deals 225.97% of final ATK as damage.
prolly other elites had higher attack at that moment and this one i took 1 of them down
either way i was wrong on both case
Sanis truly goat at rushing boss
sample here to see where Sanis missle hitting (so her missles prioritize the SUICIDE Raptures, as long as there are 2 of them she will prioritize them first, they has highest attack, lower than the boss?) ok thats it no flooding this thread of ReiA 
Boss can have atk lower than even bullwhip
7/7/10 nuke at 38% deficit (0/0/0/0 full OL, 1 atk% maybe dont rmb)

im feeling like needing 3-4 atk% line to complete send them at neutral stages
😂
is rei cute?
what did you wrote before?
so are the collab units must pulls
Short answer, yes.
Long answer, they’re all great to have. However, ShiftUp has no clear track record of letting collab units be meta.
Using the previous collab as examples, Rem lost her metahood fast. Emilia is still meta in PvP. So it’s a gamble whether all three collab units will stay great in the next 2 months or more.
with the amount of limited good fire dps units, asuka might have a permanent spot in fire-weak raids. rei is shaky. mari is not yet out but she might have a permanent spot in SW teams
There are 5 comps, she will be in one of them for a long time
I think the issue with Rem is more that her kit is designed to support RL Nikke, but the only real RL Attackers for Solo Raids are Power, A2, Emilia, Scarlet Black Shadow, and Treasure Laplace
Three are collab units which will never be run again, one is the BEST Attacker in the game right now (which means that Alice + Scarlet Black Shadow are welded to whatever the top meta support core might be for each Solo Raid), and Treasure Laplace is an optional unit that takes 2 months to earn
Rem might have incredible personal DPS for a Supporter, but the dream team for Rem never quite materialized
what comp is better
Asuka/Modernia/Alice
Asuka/Modernia/Rei
Asuka / Rei / Modernia
Alice has better partners, and her buff will only target 2 units with the highest attack.
Meanwhile, Asuka and Rei both have buffs that target all Fire units on your team, so the buffs are more consistent (and don't involve stealing Alice from one of her better team comps)
whats Alice best comp
Crown or Tiga with Scarlet Black Shadow
tldr; Alice's charge speed buff is based on her personal base charge speed. Scarlet: Black Shadow's base charge time is 5x shorter than Alice's, so Alice's buff basically doubles the number of attacks that Scarlet Black Shadow can make during Full Bursts
You can also pair her with other Pierce Snipers like Maxwell or Red Hood, but Alice is Scarlet Black Shadow's strongest support, so you'll generally see stronger returns (assuming you have both) by pairing them together than by trying to maximize Alice's personal DPS
rei clearly >> asuka 
how many SR boss has permanent pierce
without it asuka personal damage is just above average
rei provide more general team buff (no need for a core) and do more non-pierce damage
Rei is around Scarlet's level of DPS. And although her buff applies to all Fire DPS, what dps do you expect outside of their own burst?

only Modernia
asuka deals alice level dmg against fire weak even without rei while dmg of rei herself is mid
Black scarlet 
The main benefiter of Rei's burst isn't Rei herself
It's Modernia 
Which means in the end we want 10/10/10
My skill books are suffering
I need resets please
can this be s7?

idk if investing rei solely for skarner is worth
His Asuka Rei mod can reach his Alice Asuka Naga
Invest in asuka
does that mean no?


I feel you bro, feed 17 rock in her
Just 1 decent line
Just decent, not good enough

Idk, if its mostly reruns, no one will complain
Of course 2 new pilgrim is an issue, but modernia and crown will be reruns
Reruns is just options
@sly osprey How much damage improvement would it be if I trade my OL lines (assume all are phase 11) from 3x attack and 2x ammo --> 3x ammo and 2x attack?
ammo is better for rei than atk unless or until youre running her in crown
Crown already got her gacha skin so no need to rerun her like Modernia 
Modernia rerun when?
Last year 
And modernia have a gacha skin as well
she got a rerun before her skin was released to make sure everyone had her lol
She did? I dont remember that
New Years, she ran alongside SBS
alice level my ass

oh wait u right
25 shot alice

My 0 ele alice literally 2x 66% ele Asuka damage in Indivilia
Where u get calculation that Asuka damage=Alice
people (including me) don't like Alice because she turns the first person shooter into a rhythm game lol
let me cope
it's true that asuka==alice on auto, eg my asuka 7/7/7 lb0 w 50% ED doing almost the same as my invested alice w 65% ED on nvidia
alice with "gaming chair" is far superior regardless
Auto Alice 
Your Alice so strong

I can 1,2 no macro xD
And 62 ele
4/4/10
Fuck Rei
Good buffer anyway
Start at reset
Oh wait no xD
Forgot raids in Nike have a weird schedule
At reset we have mari
I mean the "real" raid doesn't begin until what, day 3? Day 4?
Gotta clear the easy levels first 
Rei's scaling isn't worth 10s for the skills imo
(unless one wants to mald in solo raid)
Three units to build for one raid is rough
you could lvl her burst to 10 for pvp purposes
aside from that, yea 7/7/7 should be enough
Burst is the only thing worth 10 imo
do CS even work on MG ?
yep, cs lines from any units apply to the whole team in pvp
can't wait to see 3 RL team becomes 2 RL
have no rock to reroll her anyway
no rock as an excuse is kinda wild after AI
Alice eat it all
i dont even chase ele on Alice anymore
just want my 4th atk line
i legit has 0 ele lines after how many rocks, god know
Other dps deserves rock too, so many to play with 
Hello world
I currently don't have Mod, but I have Asuka and Alice. Alice is a fire DPS, but she'd probably be better off buffing my ScarBS, so is there a point in pulling one copy of Rei in hopes of getting Mod one day? Full F2P, so trying to be conservative with my gems.
Rei is likely to see some value in future Fire Solo Raids and Fire Anomaly Interceptions. Even if you never get a Modernia in the near future, her proverbial stocks will keep going up with every new Fire Nikke that gets released.
That being said, the problem with Rei is that she needs to burst to provide most of her buffs.
Been thinking that too, yeah, thanks
So I take it I wouldn't be using her with Mod and Asuka anyway?
No, other way around
You're ideally using Rei in an all-Fire team, or a team where all of your B3 Nikke are Fire

Hm, then I just might be able to slot her into some comps
Problem is, I don't have any good B1 except Liter, and Volume needs investment
Modernia doesn't want to burst in ST DPS situations, so pairing her with Asuka and Rei is convenient since Modernia gets both of their buff and none of the downsides.
Ah, so Mod would be the 3rd DPS in stuff like SR/UR
Exactly
At least in raids where there aren't many adds, so you have no reason to ever use Modernia's burst
Rei isn't essential. If you have to skip her, it won't cripple your account or anything
but she IS really good as the pointman on a Fire Solo Raid team where most of your units (or at least your other primary Fire Attacker) benefits from her 50% ATK buff + 25% of Rei's personal attack
Doesn't sound like much for Asuka who has a crazy buff on her ATK already
Which is probably what will give Rei a bit more longevity than Asuka, since Asuka has a built-in damage ceiling
Ironically, Rei and Asuka don't pair that well together.
Asuka wants to be paired up with either Tiga or Crown for their shield
Yep, and my only other good Fire DPS is Alice, who wants to be with Edgy Scarlet.
and as you mentioned, Asuka already has a lot of free attack buffs, so Rei isn't terrible as a backup dance partner, but Rei benefits more from Asuka than the other way around
The luxury of pairing Asuka and Rei with Modernia is more that they both buff Modernia with the attack damage + core damage up buffs
but Asuka has more... expensive tastes, since she needs either more Elemental Damage (and we don't have a Fire unit that provides team elemental damage + shields yet), or reload speed to make up for her small max ammo
I'm just thinking
At around 350 mileage tickets and 150k gems, it's probably worth it to snag at least one copy for future value... right?
As long as I have enough to get a certain unit at 2nd, 2.5nd Anni or whenever they decide to drop her
Which means that if you wanted to spend tickets, you wouldn't be hurting yourself
Which is funny, given that Crown's other buffs are something Asuka already has in spades.
Poor, poor 2B
2B is still a solid unit, but she's just not worth the 10/10/10 investment
Maybe you could pair up 2B + Kilo for the upcoming SR raid since they both scale with max health, but I can't imagine Kilo performing very well outside of PVP
By comparison, it's pretty hard to imagine a case where a future Fire B3 Attacker wouldn't want Rei's 50% ATK buff + 25% of Rei's personal attack stat.
That's assuming I was around for NieR
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Kilo might be interesting, though
2B and A2 are still both playable. The problem is that A2 is actually pretty solid in her niche, but we don't have a lot of demand for it
But then again, I don't think my roster is currently strong enough to produce more than two actually working teams for raids
while 2B's shtick is that she was the first attacker that scaled with max health
but the only real unit that plays around with that gimmick is Mast
Hypothetically, with more support / units for that team comp, 2B could be playable, but that's not likely to happen any time soon.
(back when 2B came out, Mast was actually pretty popular in solo raids, so that pairing was less outlandish than it sounds)
Poor rei, people continue coping in her thread
mast was a thing huh? been a while

Also, something that got me curious
This thread mentions Rei being S.Anis 2.0 and S.Anis buffing "mid like Scarlet"
Wasn't Scar supposed to be a benchmark DPS? Or is that ScarBS?
OG Scarlet is the benchmark Attacker unit these days
Scarlet Black Shadow is the Attacker with the highest possible damage ceiling
Yeah, checks out then
I'm unironically unsure if my RH can catch up to her anytime soon 
so, OG Scarlet is the "you must be this tall to be allowed into the Solo Raid meta" unit in terms of DPS benchmarks
And Scarlet Black Shadow + Alice are the units that hog the best support core whenever we get a new solo raid
Liter/Crown/Naga?
Or is it more dependent on the raid?
More or less. We sometimes run Crown+Doro+Privaty to free up Naga for Tiga comps
Rh>>>>>>SBS, never underestimate a pierce sniper, even if SBS has tons of dmg
Doro
Imagine having Doro
I love RH, don't get me wrong
She single-handedly allowed me to push campaign to 25% CP def without much tryharding
Something to look forward to then whenever Doro blesses one of your future 10-pulls
Is not about if I like this char or not
Also, thanks to her I can consistently level 3 AI ultra
And yes, before you laugh at me, I'm mere synchro 216, cut me some slack there
Nah, I'm not a bully
I get it, I did point out that she's helping me a lot even as is
Oh well sure if your SBS is doing good numbers and you feel better using her
quick, laugh at the newbie everyone!
Then don't stop
RH is flexible
that's why she often demoted to team 3-5 in non electric raid
Yeah she fits everywhere
Better yet
Every raid she has been in either team 1 or team 2
Except for that one raid
literally
Dark Scarlet is a true hero that doesn’t break windows
Why did she have to turn into a drunkard 
I'm not sure if that's what you call getting better
drunk, but also wiser
Nothings worse than an edgy teen
Is this from personal experience I'm sensing?

If i have 200 mileage to spare: Rei or Mari? Already have Asuka. Also have modernia/alice if that matters.. thank you!
Cant get both.. summer nikkes got me broke. Saving my remaining mileage for anni
My stance would be that Mari has higher potential flex use and is more likely to maintain relevance after this solo raid, but definitely hear others' opinions than just mine 
If you don't already have all the "base" raid teams B1/B2/Asuka/Rei/Modernia is a solid "base" team you can take to any solo raid and achieve competitive results.
Especially since you have Summer Rosanna by the sound of it who makes a great B2 for that team.
If you're a whale pushing for top of the meta, Mari is the better choice. She won't be relevant every raid, but when she is relevant she'll be required for the highest scores. Meanwhile Rei will spend most of the time gathering dust if you have all the "base" alternatives ready (shotgun, snow white, etc)
Ah yeah, fair point
If you don't have Mod or Midlet, Rei may be the better pickup 
Also depends on what content you care about most
If you don't have Mod Rei is far worse
Hm? If one doesn't have Mod, then that's lacking a fire unit which is already a difficult element to cover 
Rei's use for most players is to enable a "Modernia team" as being a solid generic solo raid option, like shotgun or snow white
If it's just to get past e.g. campaign or interception with fire weakness, Asuka is sufficient
I wouldn't for example, run Rei by herself, even if it's in a fire weak solo raid and you're struggling to fit every team.
Better to just abandon team 5 than run a cursed Rei & four non-fire code Nikke
Thanks much!! I was building shotgun since i happen to pickup bunny soda and leona in the span of two weeks. They were the remaining pieces for my sg team with bunny alice and tove and maid privaty.
What is snow white’s team?
My thought is more union raid
In general the "base" teams are, off top of my head:
Every raid, it roughly ends up:
- B1 & Bunny girls & SBS & Alice
- B1 & Schoolgirls & RH & Xmas Ludmilla
- B1 & Crown & Two B3 with elemental advantage & flex (Rapunzel, B.Alice, etc)
Then pick two of the below. Whales pick based on best for each soloraid, most pick based on who you actually have:
- Shotgun team
- (New!) B1 / Summer Rosanna / Asuka/ Rei / Modernia
- Dorothy / B2 / Summer Anis / Ein or Scarlet / Privaty
- Miranda/Poli or Mari/Snow White/Maxwell/Yulha? (I still don't have SW because gacha hates me so never looked too hard into this team lol.)
Others that do SR more seriously than me can likely correct me with any mistakes / teams I forgot
Wow this is really helpful! I’ll try to build my teams like this for solo raid. Thanks so much!
second team will lack heals/cdr if summer rosanna is used
Oh yeah, summer Rosanna for pure damage, Marciana/Rem/etc for healing
We got a taste of Solo Raid challenge tonight
I placed 20-30. 
It’s probably fallen now since it was a few hours ago, initially 23rd
Just gonna add that the team will be more survivable when Asuka has the highest ATK, so worth considering giving her ATK rolls over Elemental Damage if necessary to be higher than Rei & Modernia
Oh wait her S1
Unless your Modernia is cracked as fuck shouldn't be necessary
Asuka has mad attack no?
On another note, perhaps too early in D1, but things seemed cool with 4/4/4 and T9M EVA characters
It’ll only be better with more skill and OLs though
I'm gonna not even run Mari so I can instead run 7/7/10 or 7/10/7 Rei&Asuka to see how that goes
Not sure Mari's shield buff is enough to make her mandatory for this raid. Maybe when we get more pierce DPS she'll be more important
recommended rei seems either 7/9/9 or 7/10/10 for this raid
2nd reroll on all and got a decent black slot on Rei
That's actually not bad at all.
Also, I have to admit---Rei massively overperformed this raid relative to what I expected
I was expecting Asuka to be the main DPS on her team, and Rei to be the support-hybrid DPS
but Rei's team actually massively outperformed Asuka's.
Like in bunnies build with mod and rei?
Yeah, Liter-Blanc-Rei-Noir-Modernia
For my run, I used bunnies/volume/mod/Rei
This was my run
I did a lot of testing with Asuka in various Battle Simulation comps, and no matter how much I tried to set her up for success
Rei's team just consistently blew Asuka out of the water.
try them in the same comp?
I probably could have set Asuka up better with Liter and Rei with Volume, but honestly I got more damage pairing Rei with Liter on the Bunny team than vice versa.
i think the rei outperform here is just rei has better synergy in comps
Also, MG Nikke have a pretty hefty advantage in this SR in that they do a better job mulching down the barrier (and the interception circles)
Also, to be fair, I only got to around 5 million on my first run, and I spread my Fire Attackers over multiple teams so they all did roughly similar amounts
Some of the top SR runs right now are doing upwards of 3.8 million with just Crown+Liter+Asuka+Rei+Modernia
so my teams are hardly the most efficient
Asuka's damage seemed fine to me versus mods/rei
but the problem with Asuka's comp in general is that she's super saturated on her own buffs
and xludamilla unsurprisingly doesn't do much DPS herself without a perma core to slap
Which ol is most. Important. Do we really need 4 ammo?
What would be some minimal reachable OL stat ratio?
atk ele ammo
yeah, but how much amo do I want, prydwen said 3 ammo 😮
As many ammo lines as you can get without breaking your supply of jolly ranchers.
I'd recommend at least 2 Max Ammo lines, since that's enough to guarantee that you have enough ammo during a full burst + enough ammo to replenish your burst gauge before you need to reload and gives Rei better synergy with Max Ammo refresh Nikke like Noir and B. Alice
but I don't think Rei is an especially high priority target for custom modules. It's definitely worth maximizing her OL lines if you don't need to work on any other Nikke, but Rei isn't likely to be relevant after this SR until the next Wind Solo Raid / boss
so spend as much as you feel comfortable with, and then put her OL gear on the backburner for the next few months after this raid (unless you really need the help against the Wind Anomaly Interception boss)
is Asuka worth customizing her OLs unlike Rei?
I think that depends on your roster, but it's fair to say that Asuka is a bit higher priority for OL gear than Rei is
Rei's major contribution to teams is being a hybrid DPS on Fire teams or to support your main Fire Attacker(s). If your account is new, you might include her on teams to boost Asuka or your free copy of Alice, but you'll eventually transition away from using her on your main campaign / boss team and move her towards more of a specialized role.
By contrast, even if she doesn't have Elemental advantage, Asuka is actually pretty useful against a lot of bosses and enemies by merit of being a Pierce Attacker
and the only way to realistically boost Asuka's damage after maxing her skills requires you to roll Max Ammo or Elemental Damage OL lines
still, if rei is my only chance at getting 3% i'd try her, but we'll see, got a few more days
thanks for the explanations
Can you share your ol rolls of Rei and mod compared to asucka
It feels like you got wayyy more on Rei and mod
Modernia (10/10/7): 3x Attack, 2x Elemental, 1x Hit Rate, 2x Max Ammo, 1x Crit Rate
Rei (7/7/10): 2x Attack, 2x Elemental, 2x Max Ammo, 2x Critical Rate, 1x Critical Damage
Asuka (10/10/10): 2x Attack, 2x Elemental, 2x Max Ammo, 1x Critical Rate, 2x Critical Damage, 1x Hit Rate
in the aggregate, the OL lines aren't that different
And Rei actually has the least skill investment across the three of them
Rei and Modernia just have REALLY good synergy together
Asuka also have really good synergy too, too bad she has to carry noob comp in which Rei cant do

Godsuka
My 1lb 7/7/7 Rei is out DPSing my 4OL Core 3 10/10/7 Mod because of lucky initial OL rolls (zero rerolls) 
DAMN god placement on ed rolls too, this Rei going to go FAR
I was absolutely stun locked. Why couldn’t this have happened on my Alice with those two charge speeds 
Is Rei worth using SR doll?
There are other MG units that'd like em before her id say
Mod, xLud, crown
And then maybe rei
Three of them already equipped with SR doll, except Rei
I can choose SR doll for MG, so i thinking, maybe Rei need it.
Yeah Rei is definitely the next in line
Cuz diesel is obsolete now
Why this guy always say stuff after i almost finish building it 

I'm sorry, I should've predicted Mari 

Nooo 
To be fair it’s like they didn’t care how phase 2 did, they only cared for phase 3 to work properly
It was literally impossible for me to know otherwise
That or the person writing kit descriptions hates his job
Without phase 3 she's like ultra omega trash cuz her S1 don't even stack
Idk man next raid water and im not investing in ViperGodSSSS due to research lab 
you can still use diesel for that blasted elysion tower
If the next water boss has a core, viper stonks do get lowered by a small margin
a stonk that i dont have































