#[Rei Ayanami] New Unit Megathread

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flint basin
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There’s also the fact Rei will do up to 7 times dmg vs shields, so another gimmick…

umbral flax
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Reduce effects ig

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I'm pretty sure it's all due to nikke being poorly optimised man

wanton charm
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what is this thing

umbral flax
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Shit doesn't use half of my gpu

wanton charm
flint basin
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Sooo what to do

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You were kicked from Union

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Maybe? TOMstare

wanton charm
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UR still up, no way they can kick you

flint basin
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It isn’t up for me though?

wanton charm
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still calculating so i though still up

umbral flax
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Hmm we saw Rei's effect on mod

Now we need Asuka effect on mod
And then Rei effect on asuka DieselNOD

Liter blanc Asuka noir mod
Liter blanc Asuka noir
Liter blanc Asuka Rei noir

flint basin
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Ah calculations

umbral flax
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That should give us everything

wispy prairie
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Damn Nike shitty game

umbral flax
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I need to wake up in 2.5 hours so I'll be here soon DieselNod

wispy prairie
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Noooo

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Bye snake

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Sleep well

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Yeah gn is too mainstream I'm gonna use sleep well now

wanton charm
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gn man

flint basin
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gn oddstreamer pepehmmm

weak rain
flint basin
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Did we confirm if Rei’s shield is individual? I forgot to check

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Yeah, individual. As expected

ionic jackal
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What happened?

unborn geyser
weak rain
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fellas clowning rei before banner

ionic jackal
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Is she good now? lol

unborn geyser
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REAL

icy mirage
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she's good in fire raid but meh in others

weak rain
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if they know how to read now prolly yes

ionic jackal
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I haven’t seen any conclusive verdicts yet

unborn geyser
icy mirage
wanton charm
jolly steeple
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Asuka want to be independent and not rely on anyone else

jolly steeple
old saddle
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snake said asuka + rei + mod = super stronk combo

normal bison
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tbf it is but the burst gen is very weak kekw

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AR + MG + MG deadge

edgy wave
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centi b2 for burst gen clueless

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ohhh thats why mari is sr

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to burst gen for these losers

normal bison
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technically she doesn't need to full charge except for shield mechanics so yeah

wispy prairie
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Mari kit is so good bro

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I wanna put my snow inside her... team

normal bison
edgy wave
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I think duo carry sw teams might be a thing

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sw+mw with mari is kinda insane on paper

wispy prairie
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Mary is seggs

wispy prairie
edgy wave
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I don't think that would be a legit team

wispy prairie
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XD

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6b against iron weak

edgy wave
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because you want a cdr and healer/shields

wispy prairie
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Just Max core everyone

edgy wave
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true

wispy prairie
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Survive easy

hallow pelican
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So what’s the vibe

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Can Mari be on a Rei and Asuka team?

gentle yoke
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Asuka without CDR or healer is a menace to society

hallow pelican
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And if so what is her objective

edgy wave
hallow pelican
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And what’s the squad look like

edgy wave
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sky math

hallow pelican
edgy wave
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tldr asuka and rei just kidnapped mod from bunnies

edgy wave
gentle yoke
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78% MOD 80% MOD wtf

hallow pelican
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Also with the information we got with Mari is it fair to make an assumption yet?

unborn geyser
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Who would ever use asu rei mod in same comp in real scenarios

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||kisenix||

edgy wave
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who not

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they have shields

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and buffs

unborn geyser
flint basin
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Well

unborn geyser
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Show me some vids on it

flint basin
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If the chapter was weak to fire

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And you had all three built really well

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Why not?

edgy wave
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even on sr they are good on nt

unborn geyser
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They just feel to pack so much raw power without proper support on other stuff man

drifting obsidian
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hmmge using 3 of your best fire dps in a single team, not to mention 2 out of the 3 (4 if coping) shield breakers

unborn geyser
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They proper die to Bronchisus

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Kakakaka

flint basin
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Hehe that’s the truth for mostly Solo Raid, right?

edgy wave
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sure for campaign

gentle yoke
edgy wave
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you want mod to burst so they won't work

flint basin
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Depending on the fight, you have to split counter element.. IF there is an elemental QTE

edgy wave
flint basin
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If there isn’t one, then it’s possible to just stack the counter element

gentle yoke
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XLud > Asuka buff for Modernia?

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???????????

unborn geyser
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Water is so weak

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Xlud is benched

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Asuka rei taking over

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Gangster

drifting obsidian
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cindy will save water ShenheYattaBoom

flint basin
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I like XLud madge

unborn geyser
edgy wave
gentle yoke
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I just realized @unborn geyser

unborn geyser
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That im sss

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Thanks

gentle yoke
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If xlud reloads for too long, whole team damage shatters

edgy wave
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yep

unborn geyser
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She is so bad even on element

gentle yoke
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Kira says 2 enuf but she keeps reloading right before her burst i dont get it lol

unborn geyser
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Like 2 lines sth

flint basin
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XLud weakens a lot without a core to zero in on

edgy wave
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that team has so little burst gen

flint basin
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But when there’s a core, she feels so nice to have on team sometimes

gentle yoke
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Kira's 2 lines is probably 140%+ or someshit

edgy wave
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I assume they have a decent chunk of time in offburst

gentle yoke
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Cus my XLud def needs more

unborn geyser
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Holy fake news nokia flipping

wispy prairie
edgy wave
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sw benched ono YuniDespair

gentle yoke
unborn geyser
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i gotchu homie

gentle yoke
unborn geyser
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i swear to god, i never said these 3 names in 1 sentence

sly osprey
sly osprey
modest moth
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rei SSS campaign god

gentle yoke
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What to test

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Shes pretty solved

raven echo
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Why is rei fire she feels like water

sly osprey
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she's Volt

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in ToF

drifting obsidian
unborn geyser
ionic jackal
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Is rei a 7/7/7 or 4/7/7 character?

edgy wave
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10-10-10 clueless

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more like 7-10-10 but yeah

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attacker caster attack is kinda beefy tho

ripe pewter
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Rei can just take whatever left from my stash after I 10/x/10 Mari kekw

edgy wave
sly osprey
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you don't want to clear CC?

edgy wave
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thats what I will use on her tho but thats suboptimal

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thats same as saying naga is 7-7-4

sly osprey
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but where is Naga

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NIhi the goat

edgy wave
sly osprey
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nah too much work

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time to introduce SSSS

edgy wave
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I mean according to math they do better than other off ele team as team 5 by a good margin

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and nvidia killer

sly osprey
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and in P

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5

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lag

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it should be P5

edgy wave
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yep its not naga level

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but shooting her in the leg with suboptimal skills is deadge

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we really need supporters with 1 loaded skill and 2 fluff ones

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these books can't keep up

ripe pewter
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hmm, due to my skill issue, using triple fire without healer on SR is too risky for me, I might need to separate one of them NovelThink

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~~Imagine talking like I already own Rei kekw ~~

ionic jackal
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I feel like s1 is just ok

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S2 is a nice fire party buff

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Burst is the biggest buff with aoe damage

unborn geyser
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s1 lv4 and you secure 3% SR

versed violet
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where are the rei testing pics/vid smh

sly osprey
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above

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and in Paris

proper lava
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:kaka:

jolly steeple
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Do whales even care

outer basin
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Anyone test Rei?

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Wanna see if rebuild 2B is better than invest in Rei or not

weak rain
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need new supp for 2b

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shift up edging us

sly osprey
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she's Scar'et

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damn that's actually very simple to understand

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MG Scar'et

fierce rivet
outer basin
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So she is bad then wahahaha

icy falcon
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BlancStare work in pvp?

ornate phoenix
bleak marlin
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why must they make every collab fire

sly osprey
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That's lit

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🔥

outer basin
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Emilia and Rem is Water

coarse wind
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Quite decent

coarse wind
unique pier
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Pascal is Iron 🗣️

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Pascal number 1

flint basin
flint basin
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If the problem is moving tiers around, then change it to a system where you just add points

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First, scarlet was SSS tier, like 100 points

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Then later Red Hood is even better, woulda been tier SSSS right? Just set her to be 130 points

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Stack them like this

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No need to change units down or up in relation to other units

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Heck it even exemplifies power creep accurately

sly osprey
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remind me of ToF

unique pier
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I feel that would rub people the wrong way

sly osprey
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when I played in day 1, all characters had to work together to kill a world boss

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now I can use latest char to solo boss

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that shit crazed

chilly night
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100 pulls, pure white

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I bought her

frail dune
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Soooooooooo did anyone tested rei yet?

chilly night
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ShiftUp, you really rig this banner shamelessly

frail dune
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or i just do it

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any team recommend

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let me finish AI first get her some OL

flint basin
tight gate
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How to check pin msg on phone

near egret
near egret
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White pulls?

unique pier
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Just go here no?

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Swipe whichever direction gives you this idk my directions?

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I think

near egret
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And then tap pins if it shows the pinned messages

unique pier
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yea

flint basin
# chilly night did you get 190 white pulls?

No, I got spooks instead, like mad losing the coin flips between 50% pickup character and 50% anyone else on hitting a SSR. It was back to back anyone else until the 190th pulls

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I’d be bald if it was ‘til 190 no SSRs at all

chilly night
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here 100 white pulls

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my case is even worst than you...

near egret
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What does white pulls mean

willow frigate
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no SSRs in 100

unique pier
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who calls standard white

chilly night
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^

near egret
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Oh I see

unique pier
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its probably leftover terms from an older gacha

chilly night
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because when you pull the lock, it spark white aura?

near egret
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Generally, I just call it "attempts"

unique pier
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wait...

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h u h

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pulls without ssr you just call white

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and your reason is from this gacha specifically

near egret
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Ikr, that's very unheard of

chilly night
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uhm no?

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I'm always call standard pull as white

near egret
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In perm banner?

chilly night
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non-SSR pulls

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there, better?

unique pier
chilly night
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also white pulls in some gacha games mean literally white, no SSR, no special

unique pier
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head hurt

near egret
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Another game I used to play, it wasn't called white. Even the players from the discord didn't call it that

flint basin
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As long as it’s understood, it’s fine. If it’s too esoteric, we’ll just educate you on what’s correct kekw

near egret
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I think I had a stroke

flint basin
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Tbh I don’t even know of a proper term for having no SSRs over many pulls, but I know what words the puller will be saying

unique pier
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just checked

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this and your recent one are the only 2!!! posts that have ever said white poll the rest are saying snow white

flint basin
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I think we just literally say “No SSRs”

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Like, “No SSRs in 400 pulls.. WTF dude”

near egret
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Yea

unique pier
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wait its spelled white? what a weird spelling for a word

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i only know english

near egret
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Not really spelling, it's just in the context of the word used

unique pier
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No... i didnt know how to spell white until just now

frail dune
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10% element + 1ammo
8/9/6
10+3 cube

unborn geyser
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kekw look like mine, bad ol rei godsad

chilly night
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nice

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Cube recommend on her?

frail dune
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not sure

flint basin
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Still seems like Rei is easily outclassed

frail dune
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but timing pretty good

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reload while non burst phase

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full burst phase alway have full ammo

unborn geyser
frail dune
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with 10+3 cube

flint basin
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Let’s say Rei gave Modernia and Asuka 250m more dmg

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Then that’d still be pretty good

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But this seems to show Asuka gained nothing off Rei?

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Same dmg with Rei and without Rei?

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Even gained more dmg without Rei Kek_dog

frail dune
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yap wierd

flint basin
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Alice Carrot eater?!

unborn geyser
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wait till weekend, overload gap should close and we see better

frail dune
flint basin
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Odd the whole team except Modernia did more dmg

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Is it that the team entered Full Burst faster or something?

sly osprey
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78% Mod is her peak

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aka Scarlet tier

gaunt zinc
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so, rei is scarlet but MG?

hexed mirage
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is Rei good?

gaunt zinc
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with shied buff

severe stump
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Rei is pretty fire

flint basin
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Rei is sober

frail dune
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her burst is AOE I'll go test boss with mobs

gaunt zinc
unique pier
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honestly scarlet is better since rei is a limited time unit

sly osprey
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I'm the President of Truth

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oh wait that's T-rump

unique pier
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you can still "improve" scarlet post rei banner with coping for dupes

sly osprey
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I'm the President of Joy then

flint basin
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B3 attacker that buffs team with ATK% is neat though

unique pier
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also Rei's shield being on her burst is so ass

sly osprey
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buff team Modernia

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fix it for you

flint basin
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Oh hey

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Just realized

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Crown + Rei shields stack? Can that be actually nice survival?

sly osprey
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stack as hard as Tia + Crown

unique pier
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then do tia crown and rei

sly osprey
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the latter overwrites the first

gaunt zinc
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gatrik-chan

can Rei beat silencers?

sly osprey
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which ele

gaunt zinc
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crown, rei, mod

triple MG

flint basin
unique pier
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not wasting resources or team slots

gaunt zinc
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i guess rei goes to bunny team with mod

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but need noir quantum box lv10

hallow pelican
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I wonder if Mari will make an Asuka and Rei team mad broken

sly osprey
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wanna know what's crazy?

D - Nihi - Asuka - Rei - Mod

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damn

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full attacker, full fire

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should be insane dps

unique pier
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I believe in gatrix

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This is best fire team

frail dune
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boss with mobs (change cube to reload speed)

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reload speed cube kinda feels better ther warm up is half (With Crown)

gaunt zinc
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i think i should OL nihilister for this solo raid

flint basin
edgy wave
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its kinda insane

burnt knot
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who was laughing when zxous was right REI is better than asuka

edgy wave
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rei is definitely not better than asuka

burnt knot
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shes more versatile unit.

edgy wave
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nope

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she is usable when she buffs 2 other units

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thats not "flexable"

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even opposite of it

worldly shore
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@edgy wave Question: Rei worth pull Meta wise?

edgy wave
flint basin
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I second that sentiment from Elija. Anytime I’m asked if she’s worth pulling, it’s burdensome to answer because if I say “Yes, pull hard!” and I’m wrong or didn’t give enough consideration to their roster, circumstances, and priorities, I might be causing them significant regrets

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I think Rei has better prospects than Rem though KEKL

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Surely will be great past one or two months?!

sly osprey
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Rei is so ass I have to think before selling that shit to Texas

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and he buys everything anyway

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f**boy

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I got 12% ele for Red today

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may be it's the day

edgy wave
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did you abuse the low hp% buffs ?

flint basin
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Did you use the low hp atk buffs?

edgy wave
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nvm lets not flood this chat

gaunt zinc
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i think have good team for rei

cdr-nihilister-rei-helm-modernia

edgy wave
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man, nihil cope is so bad

gaunt zinc
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but yeah nihil doesnt very good

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rossana maybe?

flint basin
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Probably very good? I can do Indivilia healerless with Crown and this was without a proper team. Only one death toward the near end

umbral flax
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Should you Pull? / Is she good?

Pull one copy at least. She is good for raids. She is decent for campaign, and she is ok for PvP as well.
Yet again, dupes for competitiveness or if you want to fuck Rei's mlb lobby.

No short summary this time, let's go straight into:

Why is she good?

Rei is a B3 MG attacker who isn't quite modernia level when it comes to her own personal DPS, but one thing she can do is buff her fire (🔥) code allies. And that, she can do pretty well. So well in fact that she is the final piece to the fire DPS trio of Asuka, Rei and Modernia, which will often be found in raids from what the current theorycrafts are.
Modernia is the main DPS.
Asuka is the possible tanker, core hit buffer, and will also use her ability to multiply her damage using pierce.
And finally, Rei. The dps who'll buff both asuka and modernia's final damage by upwards of 20%, EACH! Not only that, she can also provide shields, which allows Asuka to gain an extra boost of elemental damage when the boss is fire weak, cementing the trio's placement in Fire Solo Raids. A good point to note and add is apart from this shield giving elemental buff to Asuka, the other buffs that Rei and asuka provide benefit the team on every element. Hence, this fire team has a strong case of being used even when elemental damage is not in play AlbedoSip

gaunt zinc
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that ia crown

ripe pewter
gaunt zinc
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so the team consist of asuka-rei-mod

alice in other team?

edgy wave
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I assume we will feel the need to split them apart

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because we don't have enough good fire units for qte

gaunt zinc
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coping with nihilister pfftt

edgy wave
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but after this raid they are a good trio

rocky hamlet
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S.Rosanna for B2

gaunt zinc
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  • asuka-alice (DKW)
  • rei-mod
  • 2B
  • A2
  • nihilister, trony, kilo
  • yulha, miranda with SW
  • C R O W
ripe pewter
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if boss shield game is strong in this raid, might as well split all 3 collab unit

edgy wave
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a2 wahahaha

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2b on shields wahahaha

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man this raid will be a shitshow

ripe pewter
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Alice-Asuka-Rei-Mod-DKW
one for each team in case elemental shield thumbsupanis

gaunt zinc
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well, according Mirror raid, could be 2 fire in 1 team

  • Ein-SAnis (Exia treasure)
  • Naga with liter boost
  • MPriv shotguns
  • Scarlet
  • Guillotine
versed violet
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asuka buffs alice/mod a lot that I don't think they'd be separated

edgy wave
strong sail
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classic snake sentence

wispy prairie
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I wanted so I mlb her

umbral flax
normal bison
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it's a good thing SBS wants Alice no matter what

umbral flax
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I think we might still need 2b for team 5 lol

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Either that or cope with nihilister

umbral flax
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Cuz it's relevant

edgy wave
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we are already ther dw

wispy prairie
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Meanwhile my 2b 1/1/1

edgy wave
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^

frail dune
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my 2b 111 too ,reset her last time

umbral flax
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The split is still Asuka Rei mod

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Mod just roped together the new units with her instead of letting them make a new team

woeful sigil
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So is S Rosanna the best B2 for Asuka and Rei?

wispy prairie
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srosanna bring the best buff for them

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"problem" is

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the buff is just 39%

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so, kinda mid

umbral flax
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Essentially
Crown can help other nikkes more
Tia Naga can help other nikkes more

Crown and Tiga are still the best buffers for them
But s.rosanna can just help these nikkes the same as they would to another unit

wispy prairie
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cinderella b1 "90% damage taken"

ripe pewter
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technically blanc also works if you only need to use 2 of the fire trio, any of the 3 benefit from Noir ammo too. but if you don't want to burst with Noir, then you need to move Mod elsewhere

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maybe unless rouge is a b1 cdr

wispy prairie
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no burst gauge is kinda kek

drifting obsidian
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Just give up on burst gen if running trio lol

ripe pewter
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well, the original optimized team with S.Ros+3 fire also didn't have any burst gen. but maybe the timing could align with 0 cdr kekw

thin sapphire
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Cindy b1 water

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Rip doro

ripe pewter
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doro is a b1 cdr unit, I don't think she will be retired soon

scenic lagoon
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if Cinderalla is b1,2,3 with Ammo reduction

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gg priv

wanton charm
ornate phoenix
woeful sigil
icy mirage
prime furnace
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Only time will tell

worthy seal
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Is she worth using mileage for one copy of her? My luck is sheety bad today

frail dune
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600+ iwill say yes

worthy seal
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ok, thanks

versed violet
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but if I do that, my cindy c7 dream

dawn turret
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As of right now, SRossana is preferable B2, why is that exactly?

versed violet
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damage amp

dawn turret
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this one right here?

versed violet
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yes

prime furnace
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Works with any unit equally

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Only bad if a boss has a debuff clear ability deluthonk

icy mirage
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I haven't heard srosanna being preferable b2 in any team except SG which bunnies are ruling

prime furnace
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Outside of Crown and duos, she's first in line when CDR isn't necessary thonk

ocean belfry
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She's optimal when attack and attack damage buffs are saturated

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Asuka's attack buffs are huge

untold sparrow
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a

hollow fog
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Yeah B1 CDR / Rosco / Asuka / Rei / Modernia should hit like an absolute truck as a raid team

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Especially if not fire weak so Asuka only being shielded every second burst is irrelevant

prime furnace
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66% ele and 13% ATK on Rei already delusweat

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Which I could get those rolls on stronger DPS units KEKL

red willow
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yeah but

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where heal

prime furnace
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Heal?

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in Crown comp?

gaunt zinc
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skill just 7/7/7 in pins?

umbral flax
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777 -> 101010

gaunt zinc
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okay

gentle yoke
hallow pelican
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she worth OL ?

broken bone
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Hmm somehow my Mod still outdamage Asuka

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Asuka 66% ele Rei 35% ele Mod 18% ele

sly osprey
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I know right

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it's like putting Xlud and Mod together

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and say: Damn, Mod deals more dmg than Xlud

broken bone
sly osprey
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that's quite rough because

  • Liter and Rei give ATK buff which benefits Asuka less than Mod
  • Mod has free 60% core dmg buff
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I assume this is on ele neutral

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and last but not least

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non pierce

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iirc in shooting range, Alice deals at max, as much as Mod

broken bone
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Oh

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Asuka atk dmg buff looks huge

ocean belfry
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It is. So huge that it swamps Liter and Rei's attack buffs

naive scroll
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should i pull for this unit?

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will she be useful in UR?

umbral flax
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Tell union to do the same

wispy prairie
sly osprey
strong sail
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oi might as well include both Susge

sly osprey
umbral flax
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@sly osprey stop fkn around

sly osprey
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what

gaunt zinc
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or just bugged

sly osprey
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I think

gaunt zinc
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nikke gg is not updated

sly osprey
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he doesn't have time to maintain that section anymore

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it's super taxing

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and the view is not so great

gaunt zinc
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need clean raptures portrait

brittle cosmos
icy mirage
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nikkewin is good

umbral flax
icy mirage
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really?

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I saw it's up to date till now

umbral flax
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Wtf he added everyone

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I checked during zwei it was dead

icy mirage
#

it was ded till ein and suddenly everything got added

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not sure how long will it last but

umbral flax
#

I see

gaunt zinc
#

as gatrix said, i think he's too busy

brisk inlet
#

Maybe he forgor?

scenic lagoon
obsidian nimbus
icy mirage
wispy prairie
#

nikkegg.win

umbral flax
crude crown
honest sparrow
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Pull or die

versed violet
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worth getting more than 1 copy? (I need to save for anniv)

astral ridge
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i copy is enough

native ocean
#

So how's Rei? Is she good?

flint basin
#

Rei.A pepehmmm

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She’s nice

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Asuka = Mari > Rei is still true though

flint basin
icy mirage
sly osprey
#

Mariwho

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a random B2 who requires a good B1 which we lack so hard

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damn

flint basin
#

We will get a beautiful B1 instead

prime furnace
prime furnace
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And?

#
  1. Not confirmed
  2. Doesn't mean she'll be bad
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Could get double banner sip

untold sparrow
wispy prairie
#

Double pilgrim banner is a nightmare

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Not a dream

wispy prairie
late sphinx
#

but yeah if we get double banner…

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i think ill have to take the L on next solo raid unit

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tho my wishlist never fucking works so ill be bricked

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still no privM

untold sparrow
# late sphinx that.. is never going to happen

we're currently in an update with triple limited ssr's that are never going to be reran, quadruple battle passes (fifth if we count asuka running with Naga), and a gacha outfit being ran on an update who's previous update already ran a gacha outfit.

late sphinx
#

yeah but they’re not going to rerun crown and modernia banners on anni lol

untold sparrow
late sphinx
#

i think this is also a special case, cause eva is a giant ip and they want to milk people for it

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its also 4 battle passes, not 5 (naga, asuka, rei, mari)

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and i don’t really think monthly passes should count towards that, cause they always run regardless and it’s been up for a WHILE

brisk inlet
wispy prairie
#

Well lately welfare ssr during anniversary were good units for new players

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Kilo smol white good units for people starting the game

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I guess that was the goal of those units

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Non for tryhard hard deficit 40%+ anomaly stage 9 or top 50 solo raid

prime furnace
#

Sure, OG Scarlet is mid now as well aside from Electric-weak content and PvP, but that's still a huge bonus for people without every unit

prime furnace
#

There's like a viable pool of what, eight Nikkes? aSataniaMuhaha

icy mirage
#

6~8 likely

wispy prairie
#

Asuka is one of them

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Her self buffs are anti high defict

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💪

icy mirage
#

but is she also useful outside of fire weak stage?

wispy prairie
#

Yeah she is

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Build tons of ammo on her pls

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Otherwise:

icy mirage
#

I can't find her place in ch28

wispy prairie
#

Momo is using asuka in hard deficit, if you need some help tag him

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Momo also posted a video in her megathread as reference

unborn geyser
#

dont force her use, if stage is weak to electric, just use electric meta izu_confused she is just good at boss rushing and eliminate elites
just a thing about Ein/Sanis/Scarlet is they have weak boss rushing capability (in swamp environment), so when there is window, asuka is good flex into

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im a female now apparently

unborn geyser
brisk inlet
#

Wasnt it highest atk?

unborn geyser
#

oh true i read the skill again, but i dont know why in some run my sanis doesnt focus the silence PSID

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i just clear again while aiming at the psid so i said so

strong sail
#

■ Activates when firing the last bullet. Affects 2 enemy unit(s) with the highest ATK. Deals 225.97% of final ATK as damage.

unborn geyser
#

prolly other elites had higher attack at that moment and this one i took 1 of them down

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either way i was wrong on both case kek Sanis truly goat at rushing boss

unborn geyser
sly osprey
#

Boss can have atk lower than even bullwhip

unborn geyser
#

7/7/10 nuke at 38% deficit (0/0/0/0 full OL, 1 atk% maybe dont rmb)

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im feeling like needing 3-4 atk% line to complete send them at neutral stages

sly osprey
#

yeah

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damn they rewrote my phrase

unborn geyser
#

😂

weak rain
#

is rei cute?

old saddle
#

what did you wrote before?

golden sandal
#

so are the collab units must pulls

flint basin
# golden sandal so are the collab units must pulls

Short answer, yes.

Long answer, they’re all great to have. However, ShiftUp has no clear track record of letting collab units be meta.

Using the previous collab as examples, Rem lost her metahood fast. Emilia is still meta in PvP. So it’s a gamble whether all three collab units will stay great in the next 2 months or more.

versed violet
#

with the amount of limited good fire dps units, asuka might have a permanent spot in fire-weak raids. rei is shaky. mari is not yet out but she might have a permanent spot in SW teams

unborn geyser
#

There are 5 comps, she will be in one of them for a long time

steep depot
#

I think the issue with Rem is more that her kit is designed to support RL Nikke, but the only real RL Attackers for Solo Raids are Power, A2, Emilia, Scarlet Black Shadow, and Treasure Laplace

#

Three are collab units which will never be run again, one is the BEST Attacker in the game right now (which means that Alice + Scarlet Black Shadow are welded to whatever the top meta support core might be for each Solo Raid), and Treasure Laplace is an optional unit that takes 2 months to earn

#

Rem might have incredible personal DPS for a Supporter, but the dream team for Rem never quite materialized

hexed mirage
#

what comp is better
Asuka/Modernia/Alice
Asuka/Modernia/Rei

steep depot
#

Alice has better partners, and her buff will only target 2 units with the highest attack.

#

Meanwhile, Asuka and Rei both have buffs that target all Fire units on your team, so the buffs are more consistent (and don't involve stealing Alice from one of her better team comps)

hexed mirage
#

whats Alice best comp

steep depot
#

Crown or Tiga with Scarlet Black Shadow

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tldr; Alice's charge speed buff is based on her personal base charge speed. Scarlet: Black Shadow's base charge time is 5x shorter than Alice's, so Alice's buff basically doubles the number of attacks that Scarlet Black Shadow can make during Full Bursts

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You can also pair her with other Pierce Snipers like Maxwell or Red Hood, but Alice is Scarlet Black Shadow's strongest support, so you'll generally see stronger returns (assuming you have both) by pairing them together than by trying to maximize Alice's personal DPS

daring ridge
#

how many SR boss has permanent pierce

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without it asuka personal damage is just above average

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rei provide more general team buff (no need for a core) and do more non-pierce damage

sly osprey
#

Rei is around Scarlet's level of DPS. And although her buff applies to all Fire DPS, what dps do you expect outside of their own burst?

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only Modernia

icy mirage
#

asuka deals alice level dmg against fire weak even without rei while dmg of rei herself is mid

native junco
#

The main benefiter of Rei's burst isn't Rei herself
It's Modernia lmaocry

wispy prairie
#

Fair

#

Assuka Rei and mod the comfy Indivilia anomaly run

rocky hamlet
#

Which means in the end we want 10/10/10

#

My skill books are suffering

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I need resets please

icy mirage
wispy prairie
#

Idk my rei is 1/1/1

#

Ask someone with good ols in them

icy mirage
wispy prairie
#

Momo run

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Yeah always momo

icy mirage
#

he got dedicated asuka but

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interesting

wispy prairie
#

Yup

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And well assuka in real fight is a monster

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In mock shooting range is kek

icy mirage
#

idk if investing rei solely for skarner is worth

umbral flax
wispy prairie
icy mirage
#

does that mean no?

wispy prairie
icy mirage
#

asuka is already eating american truck of rocks

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and no progress

wispy prairie
#

I feel you bro, feed 17 rock in her

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Just 1 decent line

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Just decent, not good enough

icy mirage
#

you don't feel anything if you got 1 decent line with 17 rocks

wispy prairie
#

13% ele and 17% ammo in one line

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I have to spend more rock in that line

hollow raptor
wispy prairie
#

imagine no rerun and 2 new pilgrims

hollow raptor
#

Of course 2 new pilgrim is an issue, but modernia and crown will be reruns

#

Reruns is just options

wispy prairie
#

crown?

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nah, crown will be like doro, no rerun

#

either rh

old saddle
#

@sly osprey How much damage improvement would it be if I trade my OL lines (assume all are phase 11) from 3x attack and 2x ammo --> 3x ammo and 2x attack?

umbral flax
hollow fog
wispy prairie
#

Then tag the guy who said crown rerun not me

hollow fog
hollow raptor
#

And modernia have a gacha skin as well

hollow fog
#

she got a rerun before her skin was released to make sure everyone had her lol

hollow raptor
#

She did? I dont remember that

hollow fog
#

New Years, she ran alongside SBS

daring ridge
#

oh wait u right

#

25 shot alice

broken bone
#

My 0 ele alice literally 2x 66% ele Asuka damage in Indiviliatrolldespair

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Where u get calculation that Asuka damage=Alice

hollow raptor
#

Didnt RH dethrone her?

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O snap

#

Does alice need any support nikke?

hollow fog
#

people (including me) don't like Alice because she turns the first person shooter into a rhythm game lol

unborn geyser
#

godsad let me cope

runic path
#

alice with "gaming chair" is far superior regardless

outer basin
#

Auto Alice worryfaceslap

runic path
#

without auto:

#

no contest AliceShy

broken bone
unborn geyser
#

People comparing Alice and Asuka in Rei thread, poor rei

#

Fking background music

weak rain
wispy prairie
#

1,7b vs indivilia is hard

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Your Alice strong

wispy prairie
#

I can 1,2 no macro xD

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And 62 ele

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4/4/10

#

Fuck Rei

#

Good buffer anyway

#

Start at reset

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Oh wait no xD

#

Forgot raids in Nike have a weird schedule

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At reset we have mari

hollow fog
#

I mean the "real" raid doesn't begin until what, day 3? Day 4?

#

Gotta clear the easy levels first kekw

prime furnace
#

Rei's scaling isn't worth 10s for the skills imo

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(unless one wants to mald in solo raid)

#

Three units to build for one raid is rough

old saddle
#

you could lvl her burst to 10 for pvp purposes

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aside from that, yea 7/7/7 should be enough

prime furnace
#

Burst is the only thing worth 10 imo

hallow pelican
#

i have 4 4.92% CS lines on Rei

#

unreal

versed violet
#

meta for pvp

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(seriously)

hallow pelican
#

do CS even work on MG ?

sly osprey
#

yes

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all Nikkes in PVP steal cs from you

versed violet
#

yep, cs lines from any units apply to the whole team in pvp

sly osprey
#

can't wait to see 3 RL team becomes 2 RL

hallow pelican
#

have no rock to reroll her anyway

sly osprey
#

and 2 RL burst 1 RL

#

peak fiction

versed violet
#

no rock as an excuse is kinda wild after AI

hallow pelican
#

Alice eat it all

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i dont even chase ele on Alice anymore

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just want my 4th atk line

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i legit has 0 ele lines after how many rocks, god know

unborn geyser
#

Other dps deserves rock too, so many to play with DoroLostinThoughts

sly osprey
wispy prairie
balmy agate
#

Hello world
I currently don't have Mod, but I have Asuka and Alice. Alice is a fire DPS, but she'd probably be better off buffing my ScarBS, so is there a point in pulling one copy of Rei in hopes of getting Mod one day? Full F2P, so trying to be conservative with my gems.

steep depot
#

That being said, the problem with Rei is that she needs to burst to provide most of her buffs.

balmy agate
balmy agate
steep depot
#

You're ideally using Rei in an all-Fire team, or a team where all of your B3 Nikke are Fire

weak rain
balmy agate
#

Hm, then I just might be able to slot her into some comps
Problem is, I don't have any good B1 except Liter, and Volume needs investment

steep depot
#

Modernia doesn't want to burst in ST DPS situations, so pairing her with Asuka and Rei is convenient since Modernia gets both of their buff and none of the downsides.

balmy agate
#

Ah, so Mod would be the 3rd DPS in stuff like SR/UR

steep depot
#

Exactly

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At least in raids where there aren't many adds, so you have no reason to ever use Modernia's burst

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Rei isn't essential. If you have to skip her, it won't cripple your account or anything

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but she IS really good as the pointman on a Fire Solo Raid team where most of your units (or at least your other primary Fire Attacker) benefits from her 50% ATK buff + 25% of Rei's personal attack

balmy agate
#

Doesn't sound like much for Asuka who has a crazy buff on her ATK already

steep depot
#

Which is probably what will give Rei a bit more longevity than Asuka, since Asuka has a built-in damage ceiling

steep depot
#

Asuka wants to be paired up with either Tiga or Crown for their shield

balmy agate
steep depot
#

and as you mentioned, Asuka already has a lot of free attack buffs, so Rei isn't terrible as a backup dance partner, but Rei benefits more from Asuka than the other way around

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The luxury of pairing Asuka and Rei with Modernia is more that they both buff Modernia with the attack damage + core damage up buffs

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but Asuka has more... expensive tastes, since she needs either more Elemental Damage (and we don't have a Fire unit that provides team elemental damage + shields yet), or reload speed to make up for her small max ammo

balmy agate
#

I'm just thinking
At around 350 mileage tickets and 150k gems, it's probably worth it to snag at least one copy for future value... right?
As long as I have enough to get a certain unit at 2nd, 2.5nd Anni or whenever they decide to drop her

steep depot
#

Which means Crown.

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We have about two months before the next anniversary

wispy prairie
#

At least rei is better than 2b guys

steep depot
#

Which means that if you wanted to spend tickets, you wouldn't be hurting yourself

balmy agate
steep depot
#

2B is still a solid unit, but she's just not worth the 10/10/10 investment

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Maybe you could pair up 2B + Kilo for the upcoming SR raid since they both scale with max health, but I can't imagine Kilo performing very well outside of PVP

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By comparison, it's pretty hard to imagine a case where a future Fire B3 Attacker wouldn't want Rei's 50% ATK buff + 25% of Rei's personal attack stat.

balmy agate
#

Kilo might be interesting, though

steep depot
#

2B and A2 are still both playable. The problem is that A2 is actually pretty solid in her niche, but we don't have a lot of demand for it

balmy agate
#

But then again, I don't think my roster is currently strong enough to produce more than two actually working teams for raids

steep depot
#

while 2B's shtick is that she was the first attacker that scaled with max health

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but the only real unit that plays around with that gimmick is Mast

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Hypothetically, with more support / units for that team comp, 2B could be playable, but that's not likely to happen any time soon.

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(back when 2B came out, Mast was actually pretty popular in solo raids, so that pairing was less outlandish than it sounds)

wispy prairie
#

Poor rei, people continue coping in her thread

old saddle
#

mast was a thing huh? been a while

wispy prairie
balmy agate
#

Also, something that got me curious
This thread mentions Rei being S.Anis 2.0 and S.Anis buffing "mid like Scarlet"
Wasn't Scar supposed to be a benchmark DPS? Or is that ScarBS?

steep depot
#

OG Scarlet is the benchmark Attacker unit these days

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Scarlet Black Shadow is the Attacker with the highest possible damage ceiling

balmy agate
#

Yeah, checks out then
I'm unironically unsure if my RH can catch up to her anytime soon kekw

steep depot
#

so, OG Scarlet is the "you must be this tall to be allowed into the Solo Raid meta" unit in terms of DPS benchmarks

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And Scarlet Black Shadow + Alice are the units that hog the best support core whenever we get a new solo raid

balmy agate
#

Or is it more dependent on the raid?

steep depot
wispy prairie
balmy agate
#

Doro
Imagine having Doro pain

balmy agate
steep depot
wispy prairie
balmy agate
#

Also, thanks to her I can consistently level 3 AI ultra

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And yes, before you laugh at me, I'm mere synchro 216, cut me some slack there

wispy prairie
#

Nah, I'm not a bully

balmy agate
wispy prairie
#

Oh well sure if your SBS is doing good numbers and you feel better using her

old saddle
#

quick, laugh at the newbie everyone!

wispy prairie
#

Then don't stop

steep depot
#

I use SBS + Alice for bosses

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I use RH + Modernia for everything else.

gaunt zinc
wispy prairie
#

Yeah she fits everywhere

late sphinx
#

as if SBS hasn’t been used in every raid since her release as well

umbral flax
#

Except for that one raid

flint basin
#

Dark Scarlet is a true hero that doesn’t break windows

#

Why did she have to turn into a drunkard whyyy

umbral flax
#

Imo she got better Doro

#

It is the way of life

#

Edgy teen -> drunken soldier

old saddle
#

I'm not sure if that's what you call getting better

hallow pelican
#

drunk, but also wiser

umbral flax
old saddle
unborn geyser
dark pivot
#

If i have 200 mileage to spare: Rei or Mari? Already have Asuka. Also have modernia/alice if that matters.. thank you!

#

Cant get both.. summer nikkes got me broke. Saving my remaining mileage for anni

prime furnace
#

My stance would be that Mari has higher potential flex use and is more likely to maintain relevance after this solo raid, but definitely hear others' opinions than just mine delul

hollow fog
# dark pivot Cant get both.. summer nikkes got me broke. Saving my remaining mileage for anni

If you don't already have all the "base" raid teams B1/B2/Asuka/Rei/Modernia is a solid "base" team you can take to any solo raid and achieve competitive results.

Especially since you have Summer Rosanna by the sound of it who makes a great B2 for that team.

If you're a whale pushing for top of the meta, Mari is the better choice. She won't be relevant every raid, but when she is relevant she'll be required for the highest scores. Meanwhile Rei will spend most of the time gathering dust if you have all the "base" alternatives ready (shotgun, snow white, etc)

prime furnace
#

Ah yeah, fair point

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If you don't have Mod or Midlet, Rei may be the better pickup deluthonk

#

Also depends on what content you care about most

hollow fog
#

If you don't have Mod Rei is far worse

prime furnace
#

Hm? If one doesn't have Mod, then that's lacking a fire unit which is already a difficult element to cover thonk

hollow fog
#

Rei's use for most players is to enable a "Modernia team" as being a solid generic solo raid option, like shotgun or snow white

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If it's just to get past e.g. campaign or interception with fire weakness, Asuka is sufficient

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I wouldn't for example, run Rei by herself, even if it's in a fire weak solo raid and you're struggling to fit every team.

Better to just abandon team 5 than run a cursed Rei & four non-fire code Nikke

dark pivot
prime furnace
hollow fog
# dark pivot Thanks much!! I was building shotgun since i happen to pickup bunny soda and leo...

In general the "base" teams are, off top of my head:

Every raid, it roughly ends up:

  • B1 & Bunny girls & SBS & Alice
  • B1 & Schoolgirls & RH & Xmas Ludmilla
  • B1 & Crown & Two B3 with elemental advantage & flex (Rapunzel, B.Alice, etc)

Then pick two of the below. Whales pick based on best for each soloraid, most pick based on who you actually have:

  • Shotgun team
  • (New!) B1 / Summer Rosanna / Asuka/ Rei / Modernia
  • Dorothy / B2 / Summer Anis / Ein or Scarlet / Privaty
  • Miranda/Poli or Mari/Snow White/Maxwell/Yulha? (I still don't have SW because gacha hates me so never looked too hard into this team lol.)

Others that do SR more seriously than me can likely correct me with any mistakes / teams I forgot

dark pivot
red willow
#

second team will lack heals/cdr if summer rosanna is used

hollow fog
#

Oh yeah, summer Rosanna for pure damage, Marciana/Rem/etc for healing

flint basin
#

We got a taste of Solo Raid challenge tonight

#

I placed 20-30. susge

#

It’s probably fallen now since it was a few hours ago, initially 23rd

hollow fog
#

Oh wait her S1

#

Unless your Modernia is cracked as fuck shouldn't be necessary

flint basin
#

Asuka has mad attack no?

hollow fog
#

Yeah nvm lol

#

Maybe if core 7 Modernia with four ATK rolls lol

flint basin
#

On another note, perhaps too early in D1, but things seemed cool with 4/4/4 and T9M EVA characters

#

It’ll only be better with more skill and OLs though

hollow fog
#

I'm gonna not even run Mari so I can instead run 7/7/10 or 7/10/7 Rei&Asuka to see how that goes

Not sure Mari's shield buff is enough to make her mandatory for this raid. Maybe when we get more pierce DPS she'll be more important

icy mirage
#

recommended rei seems either 7/9/9 or 7/10/10 for this raid

near egret
#

2nd reroll on all and got a decent black slot on Rei

steep depot
#

That's actually not bad at all.

#

Also, I have to admit---Rei massively overperformed this raid relative to what I expected

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I was expecting Asuka to be the main DPS on her team, and Rei to be the support-hybrid DPS

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but Rei's team actually massively outperformed Asuka's.

near egret
#

Like in bunnies build with mod and rei?

steep depot
#

Yeah, Liter-Blanc-Rei-Noir-Modernia

near egret
#

For my run, I used bunnies/volume/mod/Rei

steep depot
#

This was my run

#

I did a lot of testing with Asuka in various Battle Simulation comps, and no matter how much I tried to set her up for success

#

Rei's team just consistently blew Asuka out of the water.

near egret
#

It might've been by how many ele slots you got on rei

unborn geyser
#

try them in the same comp?

steep depot
#

I probably could have set Asuka up better with Liter and Rei with Volume, but honestly I got more damage pairing Rei with Liter on the Bunny team than vice versa.

unborn geyser
#

i think the rei outperform here is just rei has better synergy in comps

steep depot
#

Also, MG Nikke have a pretty hefty advantage in this SR in that they do a better job mulching down the barrier (and the interception circles)

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Also, to be fair, I only got to around 5 million on my first run, and I spread my Fire Attackers over multiple teams so they all did roughly similar amounts

#

Some of the top SR runs right now are doing upwards of 3.8 million with just Crown+Liter+Asuka+Rei+Modernia

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so my teams are hardly the most efficient

normal bison
#

Asuka's damage seemed fine to me versus mods/rei

#

but the problem with Asuka's comp in general is that she's super saturated on her own buffs

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and xludamilla unsurprisingly doesn't do much DPS herself without a perma core to slap

gaunt matrix
#

Which ol is most. Important. Do we really need 4 ammo?

#

What would be some minimal reachable OL stat ratio?

versed violet
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atk ele ammo

gaunt matrix
#

yeah, but how much amo do I want, prydwen said 3 ammo 😮

steep depot
#

I'd recommend at least 2 Max Ammo lines, since that's enough to guarantee that you have enough ammo during a full burst + enough ammo to replenish your burst gauge before you need to reload and gives Rei better synergy with Max Ammo refresh Nikke like Noir and B. Alice

#

but I don't think Rei is an especially high priority target for custom modules. It's definitely worth maximizing her OL lines if you don't need to work on any other Nikke, but Rei isn't likely to be relevant after this SR until the next Wind Solo Raid / boss

#

so spend as much as you feel comfortable with, and then put her OL gear on the backburner for the next few months after this raid (unless you really need the help against the Wind Anomaly Interception boss)

gaunt matrix
#

is Asuka worth customizing her OLs unlike Rei?

steep depot
#

I think that depends on your roster, but it's fair to say that Asuka is a bit higher priority for OL gear than Rei is

#

Rei's major contribution to teams is being a hybrid DPS on Fire teams or to support your main Fire Attacker(s). If your account is new, you might include her on teams to boost Asuka or your free copy of Alice, but you'll eventually transition away from using her on your main campaign / boss team and move her towards more of a specialized role.

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By contrast, even if she doesn't have Elemental advantage, Asuka is actually pretty useful against a lot of bosses and enemies by merit of being a Pierce Attacker

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and the only way to realistically boost Asuka's damage after maxing her skills requires you to roll Max Ammo or Elemental Damage OL lines

gaunt matrix
#

still, if rei is my only chance at getting 3% i'd try her, but we'll see, got a few more days

#

thanks for the explanations

umbral flax
#

It feels like you got wayyy more on Rei and mod

steep depot
#

Rei (7/7/10): 2x Attack, 2x Elemental, 2x Max Ammo, 2x Critical Rate, 1x Critical Damage

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Asuka (10/10/10): 2x Attack, 2x Elemental, 2x Max Ammo, 1x Critical Rate, 2x Critical Damage, 1x Hit Rate

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in the aggregate, the OL lines aren't that different

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And Rei actually has the least skill investment across the three of them

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Rei and Modernia just have REALLY good synergy together

unborn geyser
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Asuka also have really good synergy too, too bad she has to carry noob comp in which Rei cant do

wispy prairie
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Godsuka

south stream
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My 1lb 7/7/7 Rei is out DPSing my 4OL Core 3 10/10/7 Mod because of lucky initial OL rolls (zero rerolls) kekw

unborn geyser
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DAMN god placement on ed rolls too, this Rei going to go FAR

south stream
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I was absolutely stun locked. Why couldn’t this have happened on my Alice with those two charge speeds whyyyy

red elbow
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Is Rei worth using SR doll?

umbral flax
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Mod, xLud, crown

And then maybe rei

red elbow
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Three of them already equipped with SR doll, except Rei
I can choose SR doll for MG, so i thinking, maybe Rei need it.

umbral flax
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Cuz diesel is obsolete now

unborn geyser
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Why this guy always say stuff after i almost finish building it NoirStare

strong sail
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unborn geyser
flint basin
flint basin
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flint basin
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That or the person writing kit descriptions hates his job

umbral flax
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Without phase 3 she's like ultra omega trash cuz her S1 don't even stack

unborn geyser
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Idk man next raid water and im not investing in ViperGodSSSS due to research lab pepeBeaten

old saddle
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you can still use diesel for that blasted elysion tower

umbral flax
unborn geyser