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#[Crown] New Unit Megathread
tacit plover
damn it. i cant reach 60fps
past cape
Can you talk a little bit about how you beat it? I am currently stuck on that boss as well. I have all the same units and M higher CP.
If you have a video of your clear, that would be awesome
copper shell
Can you talk a little bit about how you beat it? I am currently stuck on that bo...
Probably need more elemental damage rolls
It’s also pretty rng heavy cause of the missiles
glacial fossil
Can you talk a little bit about how you beat it? I am currently stuck on that bo...
i didn't record but here are rough guidelines:
- just keep on killing turrets: this is the only way to scale damage and kill the boss in time
- when 2 turrets are alive: cover every unit except rh/mw when they are bursting
- when 1 turret is alive: you can roughly manual the unit that is getting bullet-showered to cover without taking too much damage, if you are fast enough. optional if your nikkes have enough level
- during phase 1, the boss can either fly upon your face and fire shots that insta-kill any unit or perform a qte. the former requires quick hands once again
not as bad as the og sinister. good luck!
glacial fossil
did you have massive elemental damage rolls?
my rolls are mid at best.
41% ele + 32% atk on rh. and 16% ele + 20% atk on mw
jovial quartz
what do you mean mid? Thats pretty good lol
mild crystal
what do you mean mid? Thats pretty good lol
ikr lolol
limber trout
Codewindz would have something to say about that
worthy belfry
is this good to keep ?
worthy belfry
if its better than atk, then i should stop
dapper sleet
yea i wudnt touch this piece anymore
its p much done
u can roll the 17.95% to like 20.75%, but that costs at least 4 rocks, probably closer to 6 or 8
so not worth it
worthy belfry
it's too risky 
dapper sleet
nah not risky
in that case u wud lock line 1 and reset attributes
but not "worth it"
worthy belfry
I think she also has damage
glacial fossil
I have 40% ATK with non Ele
this rh is built to compete in campaign and non-electric solo raids
glacial fossil
"this skill will not be triggered by hp restoration effet gained from GROUP HEALING"
what does "group healing" imply? i have no idea
i understand the "direct hp restoration" = healing skills like rapu and naga, and "damage-proportional hp" = marciana's skill 1 or helm's burst
but group healing?
placid elbow
"this skill will not be triggered by hp restoration effet gained from GROUP HEAL...
shitty EN translation.
it means heal share like from Rem
glacial fossil
this is why shift up will never defeat the ai translator allegation
placid elbow
No, this is human translation.
did you know the White Knights are also known as the White Knights?
limber trout
did you know the White Knights are also known as the White Knights?
Knight and knights
reef field
how viable is Crown in hard campaign?
let's say i'm a tryhard mf in hard campaign, playing in 35%+ deficit range, should i mlb her for it ?
hoary adder
i mean
go check the lowest cp clears
and see how many crowns are there
hint: a lot
reef field
since you're here, what's the comp for nihilister 20 ?
reef field
i tried it with 380k, the first rock kill alice 
hoary adder
yea no
cp gap too big
410 is doable but sweaty
420+ is warm-hot
I'm at motherwhale, all lowest clears use the same team
reef field
i guess max for the triple shot when she breath fire ?
limber trout
I'm at motherwhale, all lowest clears use the same team
Sheesh
428k clear on whale
hoary adder
i guess max for the triple shot when she breath fire ?
ss is motherwhale. for nihil use alice/rh
once you unlock ch 20 hard you can check the clears yourself
hoary adder
agile beacon
Enough moments like these, then you’ll be yelling into Union Raid voice chat…
“Don’t worry guys, I’ve got this kill! I’M NAKED!!!”
plain glen
did you know the White Knights are also known as the White Knights?
They're originally the Weissritter
unfortunately, EN decided not to use that name
past cape
german = curse word apparently
it's weird because i've seen this happen in a few games
where german words/team names get translated but french/spanish/italian ones are just cool and exotic
quartz pond
Guess Ein, Zwei, and Rei need to be renamed to Uno, Dos, and Tres then 
rocky mantle
small bloom
Guess Ein, Zwei, and Rei need to be renamed to Uno, Dos, and Tres then <:kek:798...
Primera, Segunda, Tercera, Rei-verse 🚗
reef field
wtf 
grizzled tiger
reef field
wrong
it exists to cash the fuck out
game being f2p friendly or not has no relevance
lone notch
gacha game that is too f2p friendly can't even survive this far
elfin burrow
If the money is absorbed from skins instead of units/gameplay benefits eg. Dupes, that is indeed better for f2p
gentle sentinel
Essentially, f2p is the way to go instead of ruining the game with microtransactions
placid elbow
Trony will likely be the 2nd best nikke of electic shock squad
clever sand
reef field
only if also b3 cdr
zealous holly
So just...a second D killer wife only like 2 or 3 months after she just came out
Honestly i just want more RL and distrubuted damage units so rem and elegg dont get immediately benched when they are so relatively new and actually provide some pretty good stuff
gentle sentinel
I would want to work on Elegg but I'm too focused on improving my other meta units along with saving up mats and gear for upgrade armor
Since I am too invested in comp SR
zealous holly
Like ignoring naga cuz duo, in terms of solo b2 we moved way too fast
We went from like centi/rupee for like a year straight, to elegg who got immediately replaced by rem who got immediately replaced by crown within like a 3 month time frame lol. At least in regards to like an SBS team
But i mention sbs cuz she has both of want rem and elegg want to niche support which is distrubuted dmg and RL weapon type
And now crown does more for her than either of those 2 while being a general support that isnt stuck to a niche lol
A bit too speedy of replacements there imo
sharp delta
I don't think elegg really had a great chance of standing as a solo b2 but she was a great fit for biscuit 2nd b2
quartz pond
Rem isn't limited to being an RL buffer
For people who don't want to or don't have the skill to use Yulha, Rem is one of the strongest alternatives for T5 this raid
sharp delta
Rem I can see having use still, I was mostly having trouble spreading iron for that ele shield tbh
quartz pond
Majority of my union went X Mica/Rem/SW/Helm/S Helm for T5 and still got between 300-550 mil, which is plenty to secure top 3%
And Rem will still be very useful vs water-weak bosses in UR
Especially if there are multiple or one wants to save Crown for the Tyrants rather than the Lords
sharp delta
I'm still a rem believer even for non water
Will just be boss dependent with how the ele spreads go ect
quartz pond
Accidentally made the mistake of using Miranda with Rem/SW the first run I did of SR and realized Rem was taking the Miranda burst. She outdamaged SW by a ton
Plus, she's immortal (as long as there are no RLs on the team)
Crown only replaces Rem in single team content, and Rem didn't have a place there anyway, really 
zealous holly
Rem isn't limited to being an RL buffer
I know, i was just saying her and egg have their "power budget" towards a certain niche, and they got released right after one another in a very short time frame, but then crown came out and became a better alternative for both of the dps units that their niche is geared torwards while being a generalist that isn't tied to a niche
Like just throwing numbers out of my ass for the pure sake of example, if elegg boosts a distributed damage dps output by like 20%, and rem can do it by 30% for RL units, it feels bad to have a unit that doesn't care about the dps being a distrib dps or an RL and yet can boost the dps by 50%
In the span of 3 months when we kinda starved for really good solo b2 20sec units that aren't hard tied to raid only
past cape
got it tyvm for the advice
reef field
it's not like you completed hard compaign lol
it's not crown but hard cash that completes it
past cape
Imagine skipping crown and red hood
That’s like skipping a hamburger and fries
Shameful
elfin burrow
Those 12 skippers are the game's only 12 Tia diehard fans, clearly
All with optimal OL max core Tia
clever sand
Those 12 guys are waifu collectors
They're still playing liter modernia bunnies scarlet in every game mode
Pvp included
frozen charm
reef field
fuck you
hollow hingeBOT
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1038708366630977566/1047768821747941376/20221201_022935.gif
placid elbow
Damn even the bot skipping
royal heath
No the bot just has the reactions set so people can click on them
limber trout
No the bot just has the reactions set so people can click on them
The bot is skipping tho
hollow hingeBOT
yeah I'm skipping this mid unit
hollow hingeBOT
Thanks!
clever sand
royal heath
twin glacier
The bot is skipping tho
Snek?
tardy heart
can i call a bot a retard
visual coral
I'm trying to fit in a healer to help proc Crown's skill, but I don't think I have anyone suitable? They all target whoever has the lowest HP or whatever, but that typically isn't Crown. Do I just abandon the idea? I'm still not 100% sure what my team comp should be
lean canyon
If everyone is at 100% HP all healers should go from left to right
visual coral
Oh I see, thanks. Let me see if I can work that in then!
Hm, Rapunzel shows she's doing zero healing. Is she not doing full charges?
clever sand
jagged canopy
This is Crown, a Nikke at lv.200 that has 711171 HP, 17059 ATK, 4258 DEF. Her 1st skill buffs allies 64.51% ATK when bursting, Buffs 37.44% DEF when not, gives them 44.35% Reload Speed regardless for 15 seconds. Burst give another 36.24% ATK, gives them shield by 10.45% of Crown's Max HP for 15 seconds. Her 2nd skill gives 4.06% HP Potency that stacks for 20 times, gives more ATK by 20.99% when HP regen takes place. When stacks are consumed she grants taunt and invulnerable for 5...5...AAAAAAHHHHHHH!! @slender tulip K'Sante meme time
sinful aurora
Should be red hood
elfin burrow
For full broken, just put Crown in a schoolgirl uniform
B1/Crown/Naga/B3/B3 to watch cores get absolutely destroyed
tardy heart
Give it another year we all will be cleari NG 50% deficit easily
quartz pond
Crown/B3/B3/RH/Naga for auto everything.
Although RH → Crown → RH pretty much OHKOs SI bosses (well, one-burst-KO)
soft loom
I have been using Crown to push hard campaigns, the good thing is that there are three B3 in the team.
Schoolgirls are only better at healing and burst generate and consistent taunt, compared to Crown.
gentle sentinel
But for dmg, crown would mostly take the spot more, since dmg up from her burst and more dmg when being healed from naga
twin panther
you burst with crown and trigger s1 and s2 of naga with shields and with 100%ish uptime on s2 crown makes that team giga buffed
soft loom
But for dmg, crown would mostly take the spot more, since dmg up from her burst ...
yup, hence i said only better
soft loom
you burst with crown and trigger s1 and s2 of naga with shields and with 100%ish...
in hard campaign, there are some suck ass stages that either you burst fast, or your team get wipe fast, right at start of battle
this is where Naga and Tia do better than Crown
quartz pond
But RH/Alice burst plenty fast on their own 
gentle sentinel
this is where Naga and Tia do better than Crown
Although if you are fast enough to get burst with RH, you can fill the gauge faster if 2 enemies are on eachother or behind an obstacle
soft loom
Although if you are fast enough to get burst with RH, you can fill the gauge fas...
hard mode 18 feature many obstacles, where RL shine more
and yes, enemies are spreads
reef field
read her skill 1
agile beacon
As in she doesn't scale
She scales, but her kit thoroughly overshadows the scaling factor, you can win with 0LB…
So depends on how badly you thirst for the extra power you’d get, for content that penalizes steep deficits
limber trout
No nikke needs dupes
past cape
now... deserves, that's a different story
clever sand
No nikke needs dupes
quartz pond
If you want to be sweaty about raids or want the lobby bg, consider MLB
Otherwise, 
Same situation as all non-collab Nikkes
limber trout
now... deserves, that's a different story
The answer still: no one
twin glacier
reef field
she's a new powerhouse in hard campaign pushing, mlb is okay for cp
twin panther
feral crow
it's here the right place to ask about crown advices?
wanting to overload all her gears and would like to know what feateres are the best ones for her :3
twin panther
check pins
errant loom
winter onyx
I heard crown performance depend 60 fps then how much downgrade she get in lower fps
agile beacon
I heard crown performance depend 60 fps then how much downgrade she get in lower...
Roughly 50% less damage. 1 fps = 1 bullet, basically
60 fps = 60 bullets per second, 30 fps = 30 bullets per second
All machine gun users have the same problem unless their damage doesn’t depend on their basic shots
quartz pond
Though, as a Defender, her DPS isn't really high enough to worry about it. She's a buffer first and foremost
winter onyx
Though, as a Defender, her DPS isn't really high enough to worry about it. She'...
Isn't her skill 2 depend on bullet count?
elfin burrow
Yeah the bigger issue is her S2 will become twice as long between invulnerability
Unless they're iron weak Crown's damage, while nice, isn't hugely important
The invul is more relevant
Would go from 5 sec invul every 15 sec, to every ~30 sec
agile beacon
RIP
quartz pond
Ah right
Honestly forgot about that part of her kit cuz it's too infrequent to matter imo
crisp atlas
surely that wasnt why rapunzel was widely used last raid
lament orbit
surely that wasnt why rapunzel was widely used last raid
No it was for the 100% uptime on attack damage
crisp atlas
which is her s2?
elfin burrow
If no healer then frame rate will also mean the S2 buff occurs less often yeah
Bad phone? Get fucked
Since it's ~50% uptime at 60fps with no healer
So 30fps should be around 25% uptime lol
tardy heart
Rapunzel is gonna be use for every raid now. Shes meta
dapper sleet
tardy heart
If i see rapunzel again for next raid might as well change her tier on prydwen and nikke gg whoever work for them
agile beacon
H tier for Rapunzel. Obvious reasons
twin glacier
vivid gorge
clever sand
H tier for Rapunzel. Obvious reasons
gleaming locust
Her hair makes no sense?
reef field
it's a nikke
nikke don't make sense why are you asking
glacial fossil
(not casually) beating some pretty difficult stages at 45% cp deficit with crown
this stage is aiming hell with really scattered cube raptures
i got this boss down to literally x1 health bar one time and lost due to timeup. this winning attempt was cutting as close as possible too
truly a heart palpitating experience
sand willow
pilgrim rate is 0.5%
sand willow
yeah but he’s not talking about pilgrim rate up
and if he is thats not really a good comparison to compare to off rate reruns
royal heath
yeah but he’s not talking about pilgrim rate up
they're literally talking about rate ups and how garbage "limited" off rates are in comparison
you know the shit that xanne and xrupee got for their "rerun"
royal heath
you're reading out of context is why
elfin burrow
pilgrim rate is 0.5%
Someone was asking about whether they could still get S.Anis
I replied yes, but use gold mileage or face even worse gacha rates than a pilgrim rateup banner
sand willow
Someone was asking about whether they could still get S.Anis
I replied yes, but...
ye i see your point that its the worst possible rates and not comparing it to regular rates
shy ingot
Crown has a chance of joining SG team at this point
Due to slot pressure
Leona might be ousted
Thats cus u dont need to bring extra healer there
Alice heals quite often
limber trout
Idk mayn
shy ingot
Isn't she only 4/7/4
5/7/5 for me iirc
Crown also benefits from Alice S2
Aka she never reloads technically
Well she wont now
At all
I expect the teams to be...
- Bunnies + Liter
- Tiga + DWife
- Doro Priv
- SG + Crown
- SW/Laplace shenanigans
shy ingot
Ok
twin panther
we know its liter crown because we have to fit the new shiny unit for their own sr to best team
tardy heart
Yeah rapunzel meta, obvious .
dapper sleet
clever sand
lament orbit
Aka she never reloads technically
but once the solo raid is over, is it tover?
shy ingot
but once the solo raid is over, is it tover?
Tover
reef field
after 2 raids i have come to the conclusion crown's rating is wrong
she's ssss tier
all teams are better with her
either that or all b2 have to be dropped 1 tier down and bow down to the king
sand willow
real
quartz pond
Agreed
oak parcel
SSS Tier, Crown
SS Tier, Crown's Throne
S tier other b2s
clever sand
Naga...
gentle sentinel
Yep, don't forget her, for healing and some core dmg
clever sand
Idk what expect in anniversary xD
potent sentinel
I have concluded that Crown is indeed op
she makes my strongest attackers practically invincible
potent sentinel
no my current attackers are RH, Modernia, and Maxwell (after accidentally giving her an OL gear)
maxwell isn't being given much shielding but goddamn my RH and Modernia tanks Alteisen missiles with ease
untold cosmos
SI train?
potent sentinel
yeah
they can survive about halfway through the interception before slowly disintegrating further into the battle
i fucking hate the small missile launchers
pastel arrow
This girl is good, she makes comp building very flexible (her skin sucks)
clever sand
sinful aurora
limber trout
This girl is good, she makes comp building very flexible (her skin sucks)
hater
its good
gentle sentinel
Naked king cosmetic is great 
clever sand
The best one
pastel arrow
4 desperate degens…
royal heath
4 desperate degens…
I want you to know snake broke f2p status thanks to mod and crown skins
pastel arrow
Thank you for providing backup for my thesis
lucid nova
i'm wondering if on this year's 2.5 anniversary we'll get a rerun of Crown's banner alongside her gacha's costume
lucid nova
This girl is good, she makes comp building very flexible (her skin sucks)
i also prefer her base skin over her naked one
although some mods made her naked skin better
i wonder if she'll rerun on 2.5 anniversary
pastel arrow
I dont know but one thing for certain SU take exclusive/limited serious, create fomo spending
shy ingot
Unlikelt rerun
dark fiber
theyll certainly rerun gacha skins on special ocassions, we never had any rerun outside of ruppee skin tho
we got maid drake in the skin shop for a limited time tho, so battle pass skins can come back anytime
sharp delta
i would say expect no rerun because half/full ani never had a rerun yet
and if we do get a rerun be pleasantly surprised
agile beacon
Is there a resource that tracks banners and reruns?
Found one at https://nikke.gg/event-overview/
Huh, no rerun happened with Rapi Hood banner period either
frail vector
I'm pretty sure SBS got a rerun, no?
lucid nova
I'm pretty sure SBS got a rerun, no?
yes
quartz pond
Both NY units have gotten reruns
Doro and RH didn't
inb4 Doro buff using CN kit and rerun
sharp delta
the reruns so far was
xmas1 (xrupee xanne) with xmas2 (xmica xlud)
summer 1 (sneon shelm, sanis smary) with summer 2 (srosanna ssakura)
NY1 (modernia) with NY2 (SBS)
xmas2 (xmica xlud) with xmas3(xguillo xmaiden)
NY2(SBS) with NY3(rapi rh)
eva1(asuka mari rei) with eva2 (asukaW reiT) - anomaly since we havent had collab rerun until this, possibility for collab rerun if others return
with that we can extrapolate our current expectations to
expected no rerun for half ani 2 in may
summer 2 (srosanna ssakura) will rerun expected jun/july
collab 2 no rerun unless same IP collab as before(doubtful since iirc we're expecting stellar blade?)
expected no rerun for ani 3 in nov
xmas 3 (xmaiden xguillo) will rerun in dec
ny3 (rapi rh) will rerun in Jan
gleaming locust
i hope they rerun xrupee and xanne
lucid nova
i hope they rerun xrupee and xanne
is any of the 2 good?
elfin burrow
XAnne still sees some use in PvP
XRupee has sadly never been good. She buffs DEF which is.... A bad stat
quartz pond
Also taunts and dies immediately iirc