[Rem] New Unit Megathread | NIKKE Community | Page 7

grim topaz Mar 30, 2024, 6:43 AM

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If it makes it any better, Nikke skyrocketed from 141 to 41 on Appmagic on revenues.

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But I also refuse to believe that tweet.

peak hearth Mar 30, 2024, 6:47 AM

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And there were people bashing the choice of collabing with Re:Zero

analog carbon Mar 30, 2024, 6:47 AM

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Rem simps

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They exist

restive walrus Mar 30, 2024, 6:47 AM

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_ech03

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bash re:zero is only first step

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bashing Prydwen and Nikke.gg for rating Emil/Rem high is next step

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pshark

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"I want them suck"

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actually me too, NihiSuckyTitty

peak hearth Mar 30, 2024, 6:48 AM

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Rem’s fine, just need to dedicate life and soul to her

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Emilia I’m still having doubts about

analog carbon Mar 30, 2024, 6:49 AM

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Waiting for inverse Rem

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Support RL that heavily boosts mini gun

peak hearth Mar 30, 2024, 6:49 AM

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At least you can easily and comfortably get away with 1 copy of Emilia

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Dawn of the SMG meta

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Miranda becoming Mirandagod, but timed to occur right after Austin resets her skills

restive walrus Mar 30, 2024, 6:51 AM

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Each RL shot gives 30% hit rate

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to SMG

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Cthrun

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stack 3 times

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best unit for SMG

glad hill Mar 30, 2024, 7:16 AM

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Remember I pulled 210+ times, no Elegg

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And now Elegg is obsolete

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Scam

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Im lucky I didnt get her

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Otherwise I would be so mad

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wahahaha

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Im just cleansing my bad luck

peak hearth Mar 30, 2024, 7:26 AM

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So true

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Rem > Elegg at helping SBS win

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It was also dubious to heavily invest into Elegg for personal damage

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What must be going through the minds of those who already went all out on Elegg?

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Relevant today, deprecated tomorrow, obsolete the day after tomorrow

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SilvThinkings

still tide Mar 30, 2024, 7:29 AM

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Nikke gacha scam, at least ppl play after collab will feel egg metaness

peak hearth Mar 30, 2024, 7:29 AM

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They’ll stare at Elegg and ask her why she couldn’t be as cute as Rem?

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Kek_dog

still tide Mar 30, 2024, 7:30 AM

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Egg has 2 bigger personalities

soft urchin Mar 30, 2024, 7:31 AM

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glad hill And now Elegg is obsolete

Got an Elegg spook rolling for Rem and I just don't have the mats to raise her lol

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Too niche and I don't even have SBS

shell dome Mar 30, 2024, 8:56 AM

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That's......a lot of money

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AnneWorry

glad hill Mar 30, 2024, 10:14 AM

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peak hearth What must be going through the minds of those who already went all out on Elegg?

Ask Austin

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He's been making the worst pulling choices

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Advises pulling Elegg, Moran

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I mean Moran was good somehow

still tide Mar 30, 2024, 10:22 AM

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harsh, no one can know future

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expected collab chars be meh in meta again too

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SyuenSMUG

bright spear Mar 30, 2024, 10:24 AM

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what wisdom will you preach today o' thestor

timid wind Mar 30, 2024, 10:30 AM

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NovelNoted

still tide Mar 30, 2024, 10:33 AM

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skip if not mommy

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dont follow what us did

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rolled rem, my hand slipped

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FeelsSadMon

agile needle Mar 30, 2024, 2:08 PM

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Rem's battle model makes me sad that she's meta

ivory walrus Mar 30, 2024, 2:13 PM

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ignoring the arms, just need to polish the gun part where it looks rough BelortaCry

agile needle Mar 30, 2024, 2:58 PM

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Her face is out of proportion

spark pulsar Mar 30, 2024, 3:19 PM

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https://nikke.gg/rem-best-builds-teams-and-how-to-play/

Nikke.gg

Valkkin

Rem Best Builds, Teams, and How to Play | Nikke: Goddess of Victory

Best girl deserves our longest review (It was coincidental)

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https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/guide-rem

Rem guide & review | NIKKE | Prydwen Institute

A guide & review for Rem in NIKKE: Goddess of Victory.

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Both sites have gone through tier list updates

tight flame Mar 30, 2024, 3:23 PM

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glossy pond Mar 30, 2024, 4:26 PM

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B2 attacker and support is S tier combined? Naah

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And fills t2 potentially

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Do my best girl so wrong

restive walrus Mar 30, 2024, 4:34 PM

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mailaae

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read Prydwen then

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bright spear Mar 30, 2024, 4:37 PM

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that's alot of S

glossy pond Mar 30, 2024, 4:38 PM

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Rip bunny girls high deficit

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Down to SS

bright spear Mar 30, 2024, 4:38 PM

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antillar removed the itallic there

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this is unfortunate

glad hill Mar 30, 2024, 4:51 PM

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bright spear antillar removed the itallic there

I wonder if he did this on purpose

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But I dont wanna tell him

glad hill Mar 30, 2024, 4:53 PM

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bright spear antillar removed the itallic there

@spark pulsar shud we tell him or keep this as a joke

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wahahaha

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Theres no way he missed a full caps sentence

dusky hound Mar 30, 2024, 4:59 PM

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hmmge

glad hill Mar 30, 2024, 5:00 PM

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@restive walrus why must you ruin the joke 😦

restive walrus Mar 30, 2024, 5:00 PM

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pthua

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that's an opportunity to push Tove

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Toved

glad hill Mar 30, 2024, 5:00 PM

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WHAT THE MOTHERFU

dusky hound Mar 30, 2024, 5:01 PM

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cthulhucry

glossy pond Mar 30, 2024, 5:25 PM

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Do kira stream?

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What is his channel name

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Gonna learn from a leviathan

spark pulsar Mar 30, 2024, 5:41 PM

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glossy pond Do kira stream?

Doropression

sick sable Mar 30, 2024, 5:45 PM

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peak hearth What must be going through the minds of those who already went all out on Elegg?

honestly in my defense

I pulled because she likes Doom

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deadge

restive walrus Mar 30, 2024, 5:45 PM

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I pulled 1 copy

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pthua

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1/1/1 so it's okay

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sick sable Mar 30, 2024, 5:45 PM

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restive walrus I pulled 1 copy

I got her mlb

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I regret using mileage on her but oh well

spark pulsar Mar 30, 2024, 5:46 PM

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I mileaged Elegg, then mileaged rem

And now I'll mileage half anniv unit

spark pulsar Mar 30, 2024, 5:46 PM

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spark pulsar I mileaged Elegg, then mileaged rem And now I'll mileage half anniv unit

Funny

sick sable Mar 30, 2024, 5:46 PM

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W wallpaper

tight flame Mar 30, 2024, 6:05 PM

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My elegg is invested

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voices

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I want my books back

fossil fox Mar 30, 2024, 6:36 PM

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Elegg investment shud b fine for now

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Dont trust these prydwen noobs

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Snoob noobsenix and noobtrix

spark pulsar Mar 30, 2024, 6:42 PM

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I didn't even do anything

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Cry

torn matrix Mar 30, 2024, 7:00 PM

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spark pulsar https://nikke.gg/rem-best-builds-teams-and-how-to-play/

Typo detected (prydwen guide, not nikke.gg): Burst: 3/4/710

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unless you're telling me that there exist a burst lvl 710

abstract valley Mar 30, 2024, 7:01 PM

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typo where? I'll report it to him

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ah nvm

dusky hound Mar 30, 2024, 7:04 PM

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catfight

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will be fixed tomorrow

fossil fox Mar 30, 2024, 7:12 PM

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noobwen

tight flame Mar 30, 2024, 7:23 PM

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catfight

abstract valley Mar 30, 2024, 7:23 PM

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catfight

still tide Mar 30, 2024, 7:46 PM

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damn, rem is C

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skippable

echo swallow Mar 30, 2024, 10:14 PM

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Is rem worth mlb

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I have just enough tickets to do so with my current gems

glossy pond Mar 30, 2024, 10:14 PM

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rem increase attack and healing so yes.

echo swallow Mar 30, 2024, 10:15 PM

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Bet

glossy pond Mar 30, 2024, 10:15 PM

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i mlbed her

echo swallow Mar 30, 2024, 10:15 PM

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Or should I do Emilia

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I’ll have 200 extra turkeys if I do Emilia

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Tickets

spark pulsar Mar 30, 2024, 10:16 PM

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echo swallow Or should I do Emilia

Are u f2p

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I highly recommend f2p to stay at one copy

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Otherwise:

mlb rem, 1 copy Emilia
1 copy half anniv

echo swallow Mar 30, 2024, 10:17 PM

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F2p pretty much

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I have one rem and 2 Emilia

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470 tickets

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10k gems

tight flame Mar 30, 2024, 10:17 PM

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I mlbed emi and remi

echo swallow Mar 30, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Oh I need more tickets

tight flame Mar 30, 2024, 10:17 PM

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Emi

echo swallow Mar 30, 2024, 10:17 PM

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I can spend a bit if rem is like redhood tier op

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Good in everything

tight flame Mar 30, 2024, 10:18 PM

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She s not

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WorryPat

echo swallow Mar 30, 2024, 10:18 PM

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K nvm then

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Thx

agile needle Mar 30, 2024, 10:45 PM

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spark pulsar I highly recommend f2p to stay at one copy

Did you follow your own advice?

spark pulsar Mar 30, 2024, 10:45 PM

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agile needle Did you follow your own advice?

Yes

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Just before half anniv, I wouldn't recommend dupe fishing to f2p

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I'm poverty struck myself

agile needle Mar 30, 2024, 10:47 PM

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The solution was to completely ignore the shotgun meta YuniSad

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I'm more worried about summer, myself

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Almost guaranteed to have to spend mileage on sanis

peak hearth Mar 30, 2024, 11:10 PM

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I can confirm that it is very hard, impossible even, for f2p to mlb every character from pickup

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The best they can hope for is 1 copy and bad streaks will wipe out a f2p’s reservoir

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1 copy in 190 pulls, things like that

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Collab limited is cruel because there’s probably no 2nd chance ever once it ends

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You can try pretending the collab never happened, take all its freebies, and wait for something good that isn’t tied to collab

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It may help to think of it as the developer being predatory and you are refusing to yield to it

grim pagoda Mar 30, 2024, 11:38 PM

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That’s why I go for 1 copy of meta units as F2P

agile needle Mar 30, 2024, 11:47 PM

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I only ended up doing MLB for her as F2P for her healing capacity =\

craggy crown Mar 30, 2024, 11:50 PM

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For both overall dmg and healing yeah

sacred scaffold Mar 31, 2024, 12:32 AM

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ive spent 80 pulls and havent even pulled a rem

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anisreally

agile needle Mar 31, 2024, 12:34 AM

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sacred scaffold ive spent 80 pulls and havent even pulled a rem

That was me and Elegg YuniSad

sacred scaffold Mar 31, 2024, 12:37 AM

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I also spent 50 on emilia and didnt get her either

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hahaa

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but i can slightly forgive that since I got a SBS dupe

quiet cosmos Mar 31, 2024, 1:35 AM

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should I spend 400 mileage to get Rem to MLB?

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I'm right now out of gems

obsidian matrix Mar 31, 2024, 1:42 AM

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That's why I hate good collab units

fossil fox Mar 31, 2024, 1:42 AM

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u can always wait till last day

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and see if stepleaker leaks next unit

quiet cosmos Mar 31, 2024, 1:50 AM

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fossil fox u can always wait till last day

hmm then that means my solo raid is going to be sus with a 1LB Rem or done last minute

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 2:13 AM

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quiet cosmos hmm then that means my solo raid is going to be sus with a 1LB Rem or done last ...

2 extra LB won’t make a difference in her healing. Her healing is kinda meh

soft urchin Mar 31, 2024, 2:28 AM

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fossil fox and see if stepleaker leaks next unit

Forget step leaker, shiftup will announce the next unit before Rem/Emilia banners end lol.

Just gotta have patience

quiet cosmos Mar 31, 2024, 2:38 AM

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soft urchin Forget step leaker, shiftup will announce the next unit before Rem/Emilia banner...

inb4 we get a new event the same as hard mode

flat hinge Mar 31, 2024, 4:24 AM

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looks like rem's usual team will be liter/rem/sbs/2 flex

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most popular flex being xlud

still tide Mar 31, 2024, 4:36 AM

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surely next banner is eve

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cluelesschatting

dull mantle Mar 31, 2024, 9:42 AM

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sacred scaffold I also spent 50 on emilia and didnt get her either

Oof pain for you. I got Emi in 20 and MLB Rem in 100 pulls. One of the greatest luck in pulls for me. Reverse from Lewmdilla (220 for 1 copy)

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 10:50 AM

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flat hinge looks like rem's usual team will be liter/rem/sbs/2 flex

Should one of those flex be Alice?

flat hinge Mar 31, 2024, 10:54 AM

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yes, but that's banking too many eggs in one basket imo
might better to use alice in other teams (like the newly freed bunnies)

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:02 AM

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flat hinge yes, but that's banking too many eggs in one basket imo might better to use alic...

but isn’t SBS basically tied to Alice for that cs buff? Does rem really make up the difference?

flat hinge Mar 31, 2024, 11:04 AM

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from math bois right inside this server, rem gives 26%+ total damage to sbs on high burst lvl
Dunno if Alice is still needed

fleet light Mar 31, 2024, 11:07 AM

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Does that beat out Elegg's distributed damage buff? thonk

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:09 AM

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50% atk on top of 115%

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so, a 50/2.15 = 23.2% dmg up

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grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:21 AM

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@restive walrus does rem replace Alice for SBS?

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:22 AM

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her "buff" to SBS is smaller than Alice S1

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:22 AM

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If you run Alice with SBS and rem, won’t Alice buff target rem and Alice if your SBS isn’t over built?

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Rem’s self attack buff should make her attack be much higher than SBS, right?

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And Alice is easier to dupe, so SBS might get skipped by Alice buff

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:23 AM

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mostly, SBS and Rem will have carrot during SBS burst

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and Alice + REm will have carrot during Alice burst

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:23 AM

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Hmm

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:23 AM

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there's loss but if you accept it, it's fine

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:23 AM

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Doesn’t seem like great team synergy. Rem is wasting that buff

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:24 AM

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restive walrus her "buff" to SBS is smaller than Alice S1

How much less damage if using rem?

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:25 AM

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5% max

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because their dmg outburst are kinda poo poo

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so you don't lose much

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:27 AM

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restive walrus 5% max

did you take into account how much charge speed alice provides to SBS?

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or what is that number for

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:28 AM

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it's like

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with S1, SBS shoot 18 ammo during her burst (need 1 more line of charge speed). 13 without

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dmg gains is 5/13 = 38.4%

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okfen

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but for both SBS and Alice

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:29 AM

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that's almost 2 stage3 procs tho thinkPeepo

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:29 AM

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80% of their dmg are from their own burst

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20% are from non burst + other burst

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so dmg proportion is about 8% non burst, 12% other burst

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:30 AM

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restive walrus 5% max

So…Alice is free from SBS?

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:31 AM

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for SBS, losing the "38,4%" dmg buff with 12% total dmg is only 3.33%

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cthbeer

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:31 AM

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grim pagoda So…Alice is free from SBS?

nope, I mean to run 3 of them together

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Rem Alice SBS

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:31 AM

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that'll be the play, ye

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:37 AM

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They are free from bunnies then?

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:37 AM

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bunnies and tiga, yes

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for this raid only

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:37 AM

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Why for this raid only?

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:37 AM

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because rem for water

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:38 AM

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So we are looking at b1, rem, sbs, Alice, b3…who are the b1 and b3?

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:38 AM

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my rem sucks so i couldnt do proper testing but i'm sure tiga still outperforms rem

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:40 AM

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As in not core 7 or no OLs?

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:40 AM

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skills

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wahahaha

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using the lvl 200 from shooting range would alter the numbers because the sync isn't the same

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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Oh

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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ah nvm gimme some time

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i forgot this existed

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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the scope lock is very bad for MG

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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What skills does your rem have?

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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don't

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pshark

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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grim pagoda What skills does your rem have?

4-4-4 wahahaha

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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Oh. Same

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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you can test anyone with scope lock, just don't do MG

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:42 AM

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restive walrus the scope lock is very bad for MG

explain, sir

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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they scale terribly hard on Ammo

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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I don’t know if she’s worth investing right now

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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restive walrus they scale terribly hard on Ammo

Does scope lock remove ammo OL?

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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but scope lock locks you out of all OL

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yeah

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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Oh

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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no OL at all

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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icant

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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so all MG becomes poo poo there

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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nice mechanic

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:43 AM

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Alice is another example

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unless you run auto

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cthops

grim pagoda Mar 31, 2024, 11:44 AM

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I see

solemn pine Mar 31, 2024, 11:47 AM

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the hell is scope lock

abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:48 AM

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every unit is lvl 200 core 7

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but also no OL

solemn pine Mar 31, 2024, 11:49 AM

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what?

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where is that feature

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 11:49 AM

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abstract valley Mar 31, 2024, 11:49 AM

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union shooting range

flat hinge Mar 31, 2024, 12:22 PM

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the question is, if liter/rem/sbs/alice/xlud becomes the next hot thing

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who bursts between alice and xlud?

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 12:24 PM

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Alice of course

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and you don't put Xlud there

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it will be Modernia

solemn pine Mar 31, 2024, 12:42 PM

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nah modernia without noir?

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no juicy ammo refund

spark pulsar Mar 31, 2024, 12:45 PM

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Give us scarlet 2.0 and give her non suicidal tendencies or some shit

flat hinge Mar 31, 2024, 12:45 PM

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~~wait a minute, we already have that~~

sacred scaffold Mar 31, 2024, 12:59 PM

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dull mantle Oof pain for you. I got Emi in 20 and MLB Rem in 100 pulls. One of the greatest ...

I spent over 100 pulls for xlud too hahaa

dreamy spire Mar 31, 2024, 1:39 PM

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vestal crater Mar 31, 2024, 2:22 PM

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gatrix u cant add them like this chikahits

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that 20% is 20% of all overload/s1 buff ect

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so if u have atk OL40%+120% atk from s1 thats 52% bonus

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excluding any other team buffs

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 2:23 PM

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huh

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I also elaborated that

vestal crater Mar 31, 2024, 2:24 PM

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doko

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PrivatyFeverDance1

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 2:24 PM

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That is the example

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koko

vestal crater Mar 31, 2024, 2:24 PM

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PepeGun

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 2:24 PM

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Do i have to list all cases

vestal crater Mar 31, 2024, 2:24 PM

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YEP

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 2:24 PM

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Cthrun

vestal crater Mar 31, 2024, 2:24 PM

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example is wrong>:(

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 2:27 PM

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_ech03

glad hill Mar 31, 2024, 3:11 PM

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flat hinge from math bois right inside this server, rem gives 26%+ total damage to sbs on h...

use both

glad hill Mar 31, 2024, 4:16 PM

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My Rem is crazy

tender loom Mar 31, 2024, 4:26 PM

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restive walrus so, a 50/2.15 = 23.2% dmg up

Isnt it like +19.5% increase cus her buff is caster atk?

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 4:28 PM

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ah yeah

fleet light Mar 31, 2024, 4:49 PM

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abstract valley my rem sucks so i couldnt do proper testing but i'm sure tiga still outperforms ...

Tiga are going to be somewhat gimped this raid unless they're adding a core in Phase 1 thonk

craggy crown Mar 31, 2024, 5:03 PM

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It's still a bit weird that the core only shows up in phase 2

restive walrus Mar 31, 2024, 5:10 PM

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can't wait when you break both heads

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and she just flies there, headlessly

glad hill Mar 31, 2024, 7:03 PM

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craggy crown It's still a bit weird that the core only shows up in phase 2

To allow for SG teams

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All bosses will be like that now

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They think core is too strong

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And makes the game unbalanced

peak hearth Mar 31, 2024, 7:22 PM

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glad hill All bosses will be like that now

I think they just wanted to screw over non-pierce comps (like Scarlet comp) at the time they created and released Nihilister boss

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They likely weren’t aiming to “allow for another team” as if it was a balance consideration

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In my experience with gacha, well limited experience, I found that the developers intentionally design to “cripple”, “gimp”, “hinder” existing established comps to encourage diversification (and thus more $$)

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So this thing about core being too strong is probably incorrect

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It’s because I believe they want to hinder Tia & Naga comps which do bonus to cores. Same with XLud

glad hill Mar 31, 2024, 7:24 PM

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peak hearth So this thing about core being too strong is probably incorrect

it is correct

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wdym

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your answer is literally the same

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they think core is too strong and because of core existence, many units become obsolete

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your question is not "part" but "core"

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why is core absent most of the time

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because they make some units too powerful for what they are designed to be

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as long as core exists, SG will be inferior

peak hearth Mar 31, 2024, 7:26 PM

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Edited my answers a bit to make it more like an opinion than facts

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But basically, I believe they’re just following that thing I’ve seen another gacha do to me

glad hill Mar 31, 2024, 7:27 PM

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diversification yes

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by nerfing the strong units

peak hearth Mar 31, 2024, 7:27 PM

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Which was, introduce an event in Alchemy Stars that make it impossible to use your favorite mono element team kekw

glad hill Mar 31, 2024, 7:27 PM

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by removing core

peak hearth Mar 31, 2024, 7:27 PM

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Since literally the tile for that element was 100% removed for the battle kekw

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So here they’re likely taking measures to prevent popular squads from carrying commanders to the end without frustrations

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The difference is motivation and reasoning

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I think when you said it, it felt like they were making a considerate balance decision

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“Snipers are doing well, SGs aren’t, let’s bring SGs up to par”

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Like that

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Instead, it really is

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“Snipers are doing well, more and more commanders are gravitating to them and core damage, let’s remove the ability to do core damage so they suffer setbacks”

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They do end with the same result though

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I have no idea what they’re doing now though, they’re being pretty slow about it

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Maybe Half Anniversary will be a new SG Pilgrim FrimaSleep

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Actually

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Nihilister is a different case

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She predates all this no?

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Her “no core until phase 2” was like that since Chapter 20, it hasn’t changed

peak hearth Mar 31, 2024, 7:38 PM

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glad hill because they make some units too powerful for what they are designed to be

They should just add weapon type cores then

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SG core - only SGs can damage it

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kekw

vestal crater Mar 31, 2024, 7:40 PM

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peak hearth SG core - only SGs can damage it

let me pull out my 1 sg that can actually hit core

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Kappa

peak hearth Mar 31, 2024, 8:04 PM

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Syuen’s here to change the meta

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KEKL

restive walrus Apr 1, 2024, 12:48 AM

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Nihi was design for mg modernia bruh

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anisBruh

still tide Apr 2, 2024, 3:04 AM

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Smg core

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 6:59 AM

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@restive walrus Rem SBS Alice will work great since both Alice and Maxwell apply to "highest ATK" not "highest Final ATK" and so far a fully stacked Rem (50k base atk) cannot steal Maxwell S1 buff from a 71k base ATK Maxwell PepeHmm

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restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:00 AM

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pthua

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that's strange, indeed

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try Alice

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:01 AM

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50k x 1.9 = 95k so technically she should steal. but she doesn't

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aight

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Rem base: 50k
RH base: 77k
Alice base: 68k

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LOL

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nevermind then, only Maxwell works?

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restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:05 AM

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only Maxwell is weird yes

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time to report Maxwell

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cthops

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:06 AM

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kekw

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:06 AM

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she shouldn't work like that

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should be like Alice

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:06 AM

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time to report Alice because it says highest ATK instead of highest FINAL ATK

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:06 AM

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time to report them together to confuse them

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"we won't fix btw"

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abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:06 AM

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wahahaha

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:10 AM

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So Who is bugged , Maxwell or Alice?

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pokacho

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:12 AM

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imo Alice

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because the tooltip says "highest ATK" instead of "highest Final ATK"

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:15 AM

#

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abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:16 AM

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Ye

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So technically both should work the same but they don't

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imma run maxwell again in case it was unlucky timing Hmmmge

glad hill Apr 2, 2024, 7:22 AM

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abstract valley

Who B3?

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:23 AM

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Rh and mw

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:40 AM

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In my case Rem doesn't steal mw or Alice buff

spark pulsar Apr 2, 2024, 7:40 AM

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tight flame In my case Rem doesn't steal mw or Alice buff

Your rem had 3 stacks of attack buff
Max stack your attack buff

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:40 AM

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Wrong screen shot

spark pulsar Apr 2, 2024, 7:41 AM

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3 and 12 stacks hmmge

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:41 AM

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CrownClueless

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Let me charge the full stacks

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:41 AM

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pepeangry

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:41 AM

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RumiaFast

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:41 AM

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koko

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:41 AM

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YotsuTeeHee

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:44 AM

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koko

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cthops

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this looks cuter

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:45 AM

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glad hill Who B3?

RH Emilia MW

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:48 AM

#

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During Alice burst

fossil fox Apr 2, 2024, 7:49 AM

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BlancStare

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:49 AM

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abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:49 AM

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Does Maxwell only apply to charge units???

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:49 AM

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Rh burst

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:49 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1108346931819851806/1194479452495814728/d0266d8683b6e2e7c8f7896cf8072c3686aff7334cfd6d1550f1661649ab3a0c-ezgif.com-speed.gif?ex=65b080ad&is=659e0bad&hm=8530e7e3bc0d259a555073ee428d6e4cd0fd8d9d6dacf556b6caaa575b605b78&

fossil fox Apr 2, 2024, 7:49 AM

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NoirStare

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how come NoirStare isnt top emote in this discord

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:49 AM

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abstract valley Does Maxwell only apply to charge units???

MW: 71k
Noir: 76k

fossil fox Apr 2, 2024, 7:49 AM

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how come i cant say the race word

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NoirStare

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:50 AM

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Nagapls

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:50 AM

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abstract valley Does Maxwell only apply to charge units???

@restive walrus explain why RH and MW have the Buff although my Noir has 5k more base ATK than her

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:51 AM

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by base, you mean non OL right?

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:51 AM

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Doropression fuck i forgot OL

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but then

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OL ATK % does apply to that case

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because MW has more ATK% than Noir and also gets the buff instead of her PepeHmm

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:52 AM

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restive walrus https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1108346931819851806/1194479452495814728...

Not mine, Noir burst

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ACdance

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:54 AM

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abstract valley <:Doropression:1103968001298014258> fuck i forgot OL

But mw buff only uses flat atk...

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:55 AM

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it's so weird

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:55 AM

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alright just finished stuff

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so what's the issue

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 7:55 AM

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My life

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:55 AM

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we have Rem + Maxwell + whatever

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:55 AM

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pepegaAim

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 7:55 AM

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and Rem + Alice + Whatever

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alright with this

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base on attack + OL, who should Maxwell buff land to?

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 7:56 AM

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okay i managed to get MW buff on Rem

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WITH SCOPE LOCK

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:01 AM

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abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:01 AM

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abstract valley <a:pepegaAim:859438276514283540>

so with this setup, Rem and RH got MW buff no matter which Burst was used

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:01 AM

#

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tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:02 AM

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abstract valley so with this setup, Rem and RH got MW buff no matter which Burst was used

Yep you right

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:03 AM

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@restive walrus u got that spreadsheet with default values for every unit?

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:03 AM

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So, liter rem sbs Alice mod as P2?

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CrownClueless

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:04 AM

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i'll run that team

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in shooting range

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 8:04 AM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VlIBUHo1t5mw-2keDjmveS9egSwJTItLkRwtphrXslI/edit#gid=0

Google Docs

Nikke SSR stats

SSR

Lvl,Attacker,Defender,Support
HP,ATK,DEF,HP,ATK,DEF,HP,ATK,DEF
5101,5102,5103,5104,5105,5106,5201,5202,5203,5204,5205,5206,5301
1,13,500,600,90,76,78,86,88,75,16,500,400,110,92,95,106,107,92,15,000,500,100
2,14,175,630,95,79,81,91,92,79,17,325,420,116,97,99,111,113,97,15,750,525,105
3,14,850...

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:04 AM

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mmmm right, Imagine if rem stole Alice carrot

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:04 AM

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oh god this gonna be fun...
Rem: 50k /// SBS: 69k /// Alice: 68k /// Mod: 72k

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:05 AM

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Well actually nothing happen cuz carrot will drop in SBS in her burst

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:05 AM

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core spread

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1st burst: SBS + Mod
2nd burst: Alice + Mod
3rd burst: SBS + Mod
4th burst: Alice + Mod (Rem 30 stacks)
5th burst: SBS + Mod (Rem 30 stacks)

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this is interesting

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 8:09 AM

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so only in Scope Lock

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Rem can steal

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because there's no OL there

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but with OL, buff tends to ignore REM buff for whatever reason

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:09 AM

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so TLDR having a 0 star Rem is the play? Pepega

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 8:09 AM

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I don't think 90% atk buff Rem will have less ATK than core 1 Mod no?

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it's like 75% atk buff

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pthua

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:10 AM

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right. 50k x 1.9 = 95k

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imma try this now but i'm sure Rem will steal

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:10 AM

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No matter what rem always steal carrot

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:11 AM

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LOL

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mlb?

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:11 AM

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SBS during her burst maintains her carrot

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Core1 rem

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:11 AM

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2nd Burst, 24 stacks: Rem + Alice

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:12 AM

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Always 30 stacks rem+SBS or rem+Alice

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:12 AM

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tight flame Core1 rem

so i actually saved my team by not pulling more than 1 KEKL

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now i'm curious

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:12 AM

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Well it doesn't matter cuz SBS DMG is important during her burst

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:13 AM

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abstract valley so i actually saved my team by not pulling more than 1 <:KEKL:115399561552148481...

Your team will die cuz low heal

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pepepointlol

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 8:14 AM

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it's very hard to steal SBS carrot during her own burst

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more like, impossible

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okfen

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so whatever

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that 110% atk is impossible to surpass

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:14 AM

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Yep but with bunnies and gals teams SBS has always her carrot during every burst

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 8:14 AM

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huh

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really?

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1108346931819851806/1194479452495814728/d0266d8683b6e2e7c8f7896cf8072c3686aff7334cfd6d1550f1661649ab3a0c-ezgif.com-speed.gif?ex=65b080ad&is=659e0bad&hm=8530e7e3bc0d259a555073ee428d6e4cd0fd8d9d6dacf556b6caaa575b605b78&

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yours only

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not mine

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kaka

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:15 AM

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Mine yep cu, my noir is shit

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Imagine spend in noir

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CrownClueless

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 8:15 AM

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the dmg loss due to not having carrot out burst is 3%

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that much

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kaka

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:16 AM

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So is still viable run rem SBS and Alice in this solo raid

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pokacho

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Fuck ele shield

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Sad_cat

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:16 AM

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abstract valley now i'm curious

2nd burst, 20 stacks: SBS + Alice (alice + mw buff)
3rd burst, 23 stacks: SBS + MW (alice + mw buff)
4th burst, 30 stacks: SBS + Alice (alice + mw buff)```

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SBS: 69k /// Alice: 68k /// MW: 71k

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:18 AM

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So you are safe

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""""safe""""

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but yeah nobody wanna run SBS outside of gals or bunnies but ele shield did it again

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ReiChikita

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:30 AM

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PepeHmm

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so in conclusion the copies of Rem matter but to what point and what for

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since even when everyone has the same level and cores, support have less base than ATK. yet she steals already on core1

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@tight flame send your whole team plese (for core comparison)

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:34 AM

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Which one

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:34 AM

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every team where Rem stole a buff

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:34 AM

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Who else?

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:34 AM

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C4 and C6 Alice PepeHmm yet Rem stole buff

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so there's a breakpoint

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somewhere between LB0 and C1

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:38 AM

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MikuShrug

visual epoch Apr 2, 2024, 8:43 AM

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abstract valley somewhere between LB0 and C1

Atk OL also matter

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:44 AM

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ye just double checked something for fun. every single OL/buff matters to steal buffs KEKL scarlet can steal every buff due to her S1

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so the tooltip should say "final atk"

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@tight flame you also tested with Liter, right?

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i'm curious about this

soft urchin Apr 2, 2024, 8:53 AM

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abstract valley ye just double checked something for fun. every single OL/buff matters to steal ...

Is this just Alice? Maxwell works as stated right, being base Atk only?

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 8:54 AM

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abstract valley <@243383954969722880> you also tested with Liter, right?

Always liter

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Cuz I will run P2 liter rem SBS alice mod

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:55 AM

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okay

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it's done

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Liter was the puzzle piece to exclude Rem from stealing a buff

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 8:56 AM

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abstract valley i'm curious about this

3rd burst, LB0, S1 lvl 7

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Team: Volume(C1) Rem(LB0) RH(C5) Alice(C1) Noir(C6)
Result (alice buff):

2nd burst: RH + Alice
3rd burst, 28 stacks: Rem + RH
4th burst, 30 stacks: Rem + Alice```

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 9:07 AM

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with 30 stacks your rem still steals carrot

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wait

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 9:09 AM

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hm?

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yeah, that's literally what i was hoping for

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 9:10 AM

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Why you want the carrot in Rem

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pokacho

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 9:11 AM

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i don't

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but i need to find the reason why she didn't steal buffs when i was running liter

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 9:11 AM

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Oh ok ok

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now go MLB her

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WeirdPoint

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 9:12 AM

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Drake Maxwell Laplace

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 9:12 AM

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Mileage

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WeirdPoint

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 9:13 AM

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with 1.5 upcoming

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Susge

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i don't think so

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 9:15 AM

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No MLB=brick account

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pepe_hehe

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 9:17 AM

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ye funny enough Rem couldn't keep up my Scarlet

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kekw

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7/4/4 btw

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 11:48 AM

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restive walrus that 110% atk is impossible to surpass

JP content creator said that you'd need a difference of 10 dupes for Rem to steal it (and even then it would be hard), so you'd have to have Core Max Rem with 0-star SBS thonkHappy Pretty much a scenario that likely won't happen kek

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 11:52 AM

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let's see

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 11:52 AM

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Actually, I might be in danger

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kek

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Just remembered I didn't bother with dupes for SBS

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 11:53 AM

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8333 x (1 + 126.6% + 66% + 14.46%) = 25587
10000 x (1 + 110%+66%+14.46%) = 29406

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 11:54 AM

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fleet light Actually, I might be in danger

yeah it's over since those numbers are without Rem S1 PepeLaugh

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 11:54 AM

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16% diff, or 8 dupe diff

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yeah, that much

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 11:54 AM

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deluhodo

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I might be bricked then

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kek

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Guess I should stop upgrading her OL gear for now deluOMG

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Time to test

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 11:55 AM

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i mean

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--- Core Team: Rem SBS Alice Noir /// Rem LB0, Skill 1 lvl 7 ---
Liter:

2nd burst, 30 stacks: SBS + Alice
3rd burst, 30 stacks: SBS + Noir
4th burst, 30 stacks: SBS + Alice```
Dwife:
```1st burst,  5 stacks: SBS + Noir
2nd burst, 30 stacks: Rem + Alice
3rd burst, 30 stacks: Rem + SBS
4th burst, 30 stacks: Rem + Alice```
Volume:
```1st, 5 stacks: SBS + Noir
2nd, 8 stacks: SBS + Alice
3rd, 25 stacks: Rem + SBS
4th, 30 stacks: Rem + Alice```

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lb0 rem with lvl 7 skill 1 can already steal with Dwife and Volume

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 11:57 AM

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Why Noir? thonk

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 11:58 AM

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comfy for testing because refill and i needed a high atk unit KEKL

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 11:58 AM

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Ah

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Noir will already steal the carrot from SBS for me, so

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kek

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Oh wait, right, I rolled out her ATK rolls for Ele instead

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I'll try testing with Maxwell for funzies instead

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 12:02 PM

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you can flex any 3rd B3/buffer tbh

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 12:05 PM

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Volume (I'm bricked kek )

2nd, 30 stacks, Rem + Alice
3rd, 30 stacks, Rem + SBS
4th, 30 stacks, Rem + Alice```

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 12:05 PM

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abstract valley you can flex any 3rd B3/buffer tbh

Yup. I'm avoiding Noir since there's pretty much a 0% chance I'll ever use Rem with Noir in practice delul

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 12:07 PM

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fleet light Volume (I'm bricked <:kek:798677933253853245> ) ```1st, 7 stacks, SBS + MW 2nd, ...

try Liter, that's easiest way to see if it's over

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 12:10 PM

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Liter:

2nd, 30 stacks, Rem + Alice
3rd, 30 stacks, Rem + SBS
4th, 30 stacks, Rem + Alice```

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poppo

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Well, I'm not totally bricked

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 12:13 PM

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damn, even with Liter buffs Deadge

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it's somewhat fine tho

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since you're not losing too much off-burst

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plus maxwell buff is nice on her

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 12:14 PM

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#1219557066142777354 message

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 12:14 PM

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Rem is stealing that on Alice bursts, as well

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kek

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And yeah, I remember you saying the damage loss is actually pretty low

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But any damage loss can be pretty painful in SR where damage numbers are so high

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 12:15 PM

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if she loses her S1 even during her own burst

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then you don't run Rem with Alice

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 12:16 PM

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Yeah, I'll probably hold off on upgrading Rem's gear anymore

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I feel like if I get the Arms and Chest to +5, I'll truly brick myself

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kek

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 12:16 PM

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thank goodness we only have to run SBS Rem for next raid

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 12:16 PM

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If SI would actually give me rocks

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I could make my SBS rolls decent potentially

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Delicious Rem damage tho (water-weak boss)

abstract valley Apr 2, 2024, 12:19 PM

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yeah rem is insane

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 12:20 PM

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she looks insane here because this is non pierce boss

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cthbeer

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 12:22 PM

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Non-pierce with core

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She won't be dealing nearly that much vs Nilihister unless Phase 2 happens pretty early

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sadsimp

restive walrus Apr 2, 2024, 12:23 PM

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SR boss core is a part too

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pshark

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that's why these bitches dmg are inflated

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highest single target dmg now is SBS

fleet light Apr 2, 2024, 12:24 PM

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Yup

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She doesn't care what the boss is

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I was dumb for not grabbing some dupes

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RH keeps being my Pilgrim spook instead of SBS poppo

tender loom Apr 2, 2024, 12:30 PM

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Will prolly rerun like mod next year

tight flame Apr 2, 2024, 1:45 PM

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restive walrus SR boss core is a part too

Next raid ultra brother for sure

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YotsuPray

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Mega

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Doro

shell dome Apr 2, 2024, 1:48 PM

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abstract valley <a:pepegaAim:859438276514283540>

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141114

Tenor

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heh

glad hill Apr 4, 2024, 10:39 AM

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No elemental advantage

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Modernia suks

grim pagoda Apr 4, 2024, 10:55 AM

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Does Rem share heals from helm’s b3 lifesteal?

restive walrus Apr 4, 2024, 10:57 AM

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yep

grim pagoda Apr 4, 2024, 10:58 AM

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hmmge is that a good combo to use in raid?

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Or too much loss of dps?

tight flame Apr 4, 2024, 11:00 AM

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You can't, ele shield, you need to split your water codes

grim pagoda Apr 4, 2024, 11:01 AM

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Oh

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I have a decent amount of water codes

soft urchin Apr 4, 2024, 11:17 AM

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I've got Helm way back on team 4 or 5, she's too much of a DPS loss to give my good supports (Liter)

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meanwhile Rem gets the best because she deserves it ❤️

fleet light Apr 4, 2024, 1:00 PM

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Yeah, we shouldn't have issue with Water characters

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X Lud, Rem, Doro/Priv, Emilia, and one flex suffices Xeniathink

abstract valley Apr 4, 2024, 1:02 PM

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sMary/Helm

fleet light Apr 4, 2024, 1:05 PM

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If SW is used, Poli/Dolla is also an option

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If Tove/Leona/M Priv team is used for some reason, that also covers Water

abstract valley Apr 4, 2024, 1:06 PM

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SG team on nihil sounds like troll

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especially P2

fleet light Apr 4, 2024, 1:07 PM

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Yup

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S Anis may work since she's a fake SG, but don't think the true SG team has a chance this time

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Keeping it alive would be a pain, too

abstract valley Apr 4, 2024, 1:08 PM

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yep

torn matrix Apr 4, 2024, 1:10 PM

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So tove team is no go right? I hope it doesnt since I didnt invest in my SG team at all lol

glad hill Apr 4, 2024, 1:21 PM

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abstract valley SG team on nihil sounds like troll

Nah

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Can delay P1

glad hill Apr 4, 2024, 1:21 PM

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torn matrix So tove team is no go right? I hope it doesnt since I didnt invest in my SG team...

Its usable

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In this raid

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I mean Idk about healing

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But usable

abstract valley Apr 4, 2024, 1:22 PM

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Clueless

glad hill Apr 4, 2024, 1:23 PM

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100% Tove Leona is used

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I guarantee u

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SNeon will also be used

fleet light Apr 4, 2024, 1:25 PM

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Nihilister's body is big, and she does approach the front, so it's possible it'll be used

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The healing is where I'm suspecting it may not work out

restive walrus Apr 4, 2024, 1:27 PM

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Marci?

fleet light Apr 4, 2024, 1:27 PM

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Without bursting?

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thonk

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I don't think no-burst Marciana and a team without cover repair is going to survive very long

restive walrus Apr 4, 2024, 1:28 PM

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then look back at CC bruh

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AnisBruh

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no one burst with Marci there

fleet light Apr 4, 2024, 1:29 PM

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CC also dealt no damage

restive walrus Apr 4, 2024, 1:30 PM

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its laze ain't cute

fleet light Apr 4, 2024, 1:30 PM

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Nihilister on the other hand I'm expecting to hit as hard as SB/Harvester

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Although if her damage is adjusted so that Rem as a solo healer is sufficient, she may only tickle thonkHappy

tight flame Apr 4, 2024, 2:29 PM

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imagine hardest than sb

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CrownClueless

fleet light Apr 4, 2024, 2:30 PM

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Would make it fun sip

flat hinge Apr 5, 2024, 12:45 AM

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~~just burst with marci instead of leona~~

primal rain Apr 5, 2024, 10:38 AM

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Hi guys I’d like to check if Rem or Emilia is better for this Nihilister raid

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Haven’t pulled yet, not sure if I’d want to

glad hill Apr 5, 2024, 10:54 AM

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For long run, Rem

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:42 PM

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primal rain Hi guys I’d like to check if Rem or Emilia is better for this Nihilister raid

For this raid, Emilia. Shift up has intentionally given us the best case scenario for Emilia to shine:

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Water weak
Lots of parts

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Long term, Rem

primal rain Apr 5, 2024, 1:43 PM

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soft urchin Long term, Rem

Cause she synergises well with a pure RL team?

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:43 PM

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because the RL is the cherry on top

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most people just replaced Marciana with Rem

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she heals a bit less but deals a fuck tonne more damage

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so teams which previously had Marciana as B2 healing, are now Rem providing both healing and DPS-tier damage

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imagine Rupee but if she also healed the team

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and in future when we have more B3 RL options, Rem will only get better

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:48 PM

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Her RL buff on burst also synergizes with SBS, who is easily one of the strongest DPS units in the game atm

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If the Laplace treasure brings her back into the meta, then Rem will be even happier

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:48 PM

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SBS synergy isn't as great because SBS already has ATK

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so the buff is a little diluted

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as compared to Emilia who desperately needs ATK buffs

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:49 PM

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Yeah, but she's still the best B2 for SBS if duos don't work

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:49 PM

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yeah if duos are out, for sure

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I think Rem is best for Emilia regardless

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:49 PM

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I have a feeling we'll have to split Emilia and Rem this raid cuz of the Water requirement

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:49 PM

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depends how many water you have

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:49 PM

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Emilia with bunnies and Rem with SBS

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:50 PM

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I've got over 5 so can keep them together

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:50 PM

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fleet light Emilia with bunnies and Rem with SBS

Emilia needs ATK buffs, so make sure to give her Liter if you aren't giving her Rem

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:50 PM

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Not an issue of unit number, but of making proper teams

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Liter with bunnies is normal fair

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JKs and bunnies are both going to have an awkward time this raid due to the water requirement

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We only have one X Lud kek

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:54 PM

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I think my current water units on each team are something like:

Rem & Emilia
Xmas Ludmilla (JK team)
Dorothy & Privaty (S.Anis team)
Helm (Bunny team)
Brid or Ludmilla or some shit lol

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:55 PM

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Pretty sure Emilia with bunnies and Rem with SBS is going to yield more damage than sticking Helm in bunnies Xeniathink

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Helm offers nothing to that team; might as well use Vesti

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:55 PM

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I wasn't sure if Blanc would have enough healing

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:56 PM

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Yeah, we still don't know how hard this dragon's gonna hit delusweat

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I honestly don't think Rem will work solo

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I think she'll need Helm

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:56 PM

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but yeah so that's what Helm would be providing bunny team

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:56 PM

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We'll see after reset delul

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:57 PM

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team 5 is the real question

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what trash water do I end up taking

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I think it's better for me to just abandon team 5 being quality than split Rem & Emilia tho

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:58 PM

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Team 5 will be bad even if they're split kek

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Looking at potentially Poli + Dolla for SW or something like that

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aSataniaMuhaha

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:59 PM

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Miranda/Poli/Dolla/SW

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not the worst team 5 plan

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:59 PM

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Probably need Pepper instead of Miranda to keep them alive

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or S Mary thonk

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 1:59 PM

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oh I thought plan was to give up after first SW burst and call it a day for team 5

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kekw

fleet light Apr 5, 2024, 1:59 PM

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kek

soft urchin Apr 5, 2024, 2:00 PM

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in that case maybe slot in a healer B2 instead of Dolla and heal when SW is off-burst

glad hill Apr 5, 2024, 4:03 PM

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Technically a bursting Rem > Biscuit/Poli burst

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lmaocry

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But its so wrong

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Emilia will most likely stay

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Due to Rem's RL buf

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And Rem is a super solid unit

dreamy spire Apr 5, 2024, 6:32 PM

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Do we have any damage numbers?

tight flame Apr 5, 2024, 6:57 PM

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@restive walrus

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Oh forgot he is muted here

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pepepointlol

keen matrix Apr 5, 2024, 7:41 PM

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tight flame Oh forgot he is muted here

#FreeGatrix

primal rain Apr 6, 2024, 1:01 AM

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soft urchin imagine Rupee but if she also healed the team

Damnnn

glad hill Apr 6, 2024, 1:18 AM

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tight flame Oh forgot he is muted here

The fuck happened again

shell dome Apr 6, 2024, 6:09 AM

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monkaW

tight flame Apr 6, 2024, 10:58 AM

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Idk

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I just realised when he was muted

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godsad

torn matrix Apr 6, 2024, 2:22 PM

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Just Gatrix being Gatrix

abstract valley Apr 6, 2024, 2:23 PM

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Gatrix can talk again KEKL

torn matrix Apr 6, 2024, 2:23 PM

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Someone make a bet how long till he gets muted again

abstract valley Apr 6, 2024, 2:24 PM

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icant

wet zephyr Apr 6, 2024, 2:27 PM

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gatrix gone

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#1059468005911830558 message

peak hearth Apr 10, 2024, 1:42 AM

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Finally day Remgod graces us with her cuteness

dreamy spire Apr 10, 2024, 2:40 PM

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last day last Remgod Drake Maxwell Laplace

peak hearth Apr 10, 2024, 10:10 PM

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spark pulsar Apr 11, 2024, 3:29 AM

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She heals well
Truly SS tier raid unit

solemn pine Apr 11, 2024, 9:39 AM

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oh man

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this poll feature surely won't get abused

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catberry

craggy crown Apr 11, 2024, 4:43 PM

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It'll become redundant later on

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And likely annoying to some

peak hearth Apr 11, 2024, 4:44 PM

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Maincord already deleted polls sadge

peak hearth Apr 11, 2024, 7:38 PM

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A decent poll is interesting though. Looks like majority of voters are ok with the pulls they did.

waxen hazel Apr 11, 2024, 10:36 PM

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or they dont want to admit they didnt get the amount of SSR they want

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or the gems needed to get that amount

peak hearth Apr 11, 2024, 11:24 PM

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It’s anonymous votes though. I think? Is there a list of users that voted?

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Nevermind

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I found list of users by tapping on the percentage bar

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I think I want to try to do end of banner polls asking something, just one poll though, each

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Already asked Rem and Emilia, next is Bay’s once hers end

peak hearth Apr 21, 2024, 3:40 AM

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peak hearth

Poll’s been over, 44 pullers (83%) didn’t regret. 6 pullers (11%) regretted.

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So most of us are happy. Wonder what the reasons for regret are

flint elk Apr 21, 2024, 4:57 AM

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Anyone tested if rem works w snow white?

solemn pine Apr 21, 2024, 5:23 AM

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why would she

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SW is AR, rem buffs RL

craggy crown Apr 21, 2024, 5:29 AM

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Even though SW has a single charge shot from her burst, she doesn't count as a RL unit from Rem's buff

flint elk Apr 21, 2024, 5:33 AM

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solemn pine why would she

Was just wondering if she changes to RL when she bursts. Guess not

tender loom Apr 21, 2024, 11:04 AM

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flint elk Was just wondering if she changes to RL when she bursts. Guess not

She changes to SR, but skills that do weapon checks only check the initial weapon (her AR)

pastel bough Apr 24, 2024, 10:15 AM

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peak hearth So most of us are happy. Wonder what the reasons for regret are

gem for crown

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AnisCry

dreamy spire Apr 24, 2024, 10:19 AM

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imagine gemming for a pilgrim as a poor pleb

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learn to save up mileage yeah

restive walrus Apr 24, 2024, 10:21 AM

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Remset

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cthbeer

solemn pine Apr 24, 2024, 10:22 AM

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SCHIZO

obtuse plover Apr 24, 2024, 10:26 AM

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peak hearth

might be time to redo the poll BlancStare

spark pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 11:06 AM

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obtuse plover might be time to redo the poll<:BlancStare:1121783303922532403> <:BlancStare:112...

LMFAO

craggy crown Apr 24, 2024, 1:15 PM

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obtuse plover might be time to redo the poll<:BlancStare:1121783303922532403> <:BlancStare:112...

Maybe? Maybe not ScarletHeh

torn matrix Apr 24, 2024, 2:50 PM

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so rem goes from team 2 to team 4/5? lol

solemn pine Apr 24, 2024, 3:06 PM

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rem has never been t2

spark pulsar Apr 24, 2024, 3:08 PM

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solemn pine rem has never been t2

she was t2 in nihil raid

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in terms of damage

craggy crown Apr 24, 2024, 3:41 PM

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I had to use her in my t3 because at the time, my maxwell was the target from the vulcans

agile needle Apr 24, 2024, 4:13 PM

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Yeah, MLB is definitely regret now, I think

vestal crater Apr 24, 2024, 4:16 PM

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obtuse plover might be time to redo the poll<:BlancStare:1121783303922532403> <:BlancStare:112...

still no regret i mlbed

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expecting to still use her KEKW

solemn pine Apr 24, 2024, 4:16 PM

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cope

craggy crown Apr 24, 2024, 4:17 PM

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What about skill reset rem? Do we also regret that?

vestal crater Apr 24, 2024, 4:17 PM

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if i reset my rem i would definately regret

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being unlocked from doro biscuit is nice esp if your fighting idk fire QTE like sb and bring eunhwa/nihil/signal

craggy crown Apr 24, 2024, 4:19 PM

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I was kind of wondering about that. If I would skill reset my rem, I then would give all of that to crown

vestal crater Apr 24, 2024, 4:19 PM

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and water weak we already know how that works KEKW

vestal crater Apr 24, 2024, 4:19 PM

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craggy crown I was kind of wondering about that. If I would skill reset my rem, I then would...

ideally i would like to have both up

craggy crown Apr 24, 2024, 4:20 PM

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I see

peak hearth Apr 24, 2024, 4:27 PM

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obtuse plover might be time to redo the poll<:BlancStare:1121783303922532403> <:BlancStare:112...

Hehe, I’ll exercise some discipline and refrain from wantonly creating polls

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There could be one after Crown banner ends, maybe I can do two polls? One for Crown, other for Rem below it?

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KEKS

fossil fox Apr 24, 2024, 4:38 PM

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AnneWorry

fossil fox May 6, 2024, 6:24 AM

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ReiWTF

peak hearth May 6, 2024, 3:55 PM

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At least Remgod lasted longer than Morgod

fossil fox May 6, 2024, 5:02 PM

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ChimeKisama

restive walrus May 6, 2024, 5:03 PM

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kaka

spark pulsar May 6, 2024, 6:14 PM

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peak hearth At least Remgod lasted longer than Morgod

Morgod has pvp

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Rem dead

fossil fox May 6, 2024, 6:16 PM

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Rem is only dead cuz of the ele shield lol

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BlancStare

spark pulsar May 6, 2024, 6:23 PM

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Inb4 next banner is also b3 sg cdr healer dps

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Then I can say rem dead

tender loom May 6, 2024, 6:57 PM

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Rem is still the best abnormal MG unit. Copium

tight flame May 6, 2024, 7:19 PM

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Still useful in weak water raid

floral star May 6, 2024, 9:33 PM

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spark pulsar Inb4 next banner is also b3 sg cdr healer dps

What kind of after-@rgy baby is that , you want everything on a unit wahahaha

tight flame May 6, 2024, 9:34 PM

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He is fancy because he built mpriv

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floral star May 6, 2024, 9:34 PM

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So did I Sadge

obtuse plover May 6, 2024, 10:18 PM

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spark pulsar Inb4 next banner is also b3 sg cdr healer dps

who will also save pvp

soft urchin May 7, 2024, 1:33 AM

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I'm using her in my team 5 for this SR, but part of that is because I'm not a whale with every possible Nikke being viable

peak hearth May 7, 2024, 6:40 AM

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Crown blew Rem away. It’s mainly because Crown is B2. It’d have been a different story if she was B1 or B3.

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Now Rem waits for a B1 or a B3 that fits perfect with her. Someday.

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Or for a 10-team game mode

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For now, I console myself with, at least I have a B2 water Nikke that can handle water-weak QTEs

solemn pine May 7, 2024, 6:43 AM

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water weak SR again on summer MODS

soft urchin May 7, 2024, 6:53 AM

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Post Collab I'm definitely using Emilia more than Rem

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Part of that is because I don't have Modernia, and Emilia is a good substitute for "flex slot dps who doesn't burst"

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Maybe Laplace treasure will make Rem relevant for team 5 lol

fleet light May 7, 2024, 7:54 AM

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Still in top 200 using Rem sip

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Much more comfy than Yulha mald

arctic flame May 17, 2024, 5:51 PM

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dafuq is wrong with her hand

fleet light May 17, 2024, 5:53 PM

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Old news 2deluderping

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Instead of giving her a floating gun, they actually made the hand attach to the gun kek

arctic flame May 17, 2024, 5:54 PM

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weird af

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wahahaha

spark pulsar May 30, 2024, 6:22 AM

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Remgod

fossil fox May 30, 2024, 6:23 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/awesome-gif-3876576500302312660

Tenor

tight flame May 30, 2024, 7:25 AM

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Rem god

cloud hull May 30, 2024, 8:26 AM

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REM GOD

restive walrus May 30, 2024, 8:29 AM

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Rem-set

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craggy crown May 30, 2024, 6:58 PM

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Rem buffed?

remote stump May 30, 2024, 8:49 PM

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craggy crown Rem buffed?

Laplace treasure making her more relevant since she's a good Laplace buffer/healer

craggy crown May 30, 2024, 11:20 PM

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I see

peak hearth May 31, 2024, 1:30 AM

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I hadn’t considered this, but yeah if Laplace becomes crazy strong due to the Treasure, then Rem regained relevancy to partner with Laplace. Also worth remarking on is whether Frima also becomes a major partner once you get Frima’s Treasure

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So Frima, Rem, Laplace, B3, CDR is a possibility once everything is built up

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Ideally, that B3 is also RL with true damage. There isn’t another one, though

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Rem quietly smug atm

restive walrus May 31, 2024, 1:34 AM

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how long tho

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pbuf

agile needle May 31, 2024, 1:39 AM

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Why would Frima gain relevancy?

peak hearth May 31, 2024, 1:42 AM

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agile needle Why would Frima gain relevancy?

+78% true damage buff for Laplace, courtesy of sleepyhead

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For 10 seconds.

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Bottom of Treasure-modified Burst skill has one portion

restive walrus May 31, 2024, 1:46 AM

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increase true dmg
Only Laplace has true dmg

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anisBruh

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damn

peak hearth May 31, 2024, 1:46 AM

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Bottom of Treasure-modified S2 has other portion

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The other thing is, Frima needs to get to this point, eventually. Could be a while

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Before then, she’s not that good of a partner for Laplace

restive walrus May 31, 2024, 1:47 AM

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yep, and as always, up your DPS first

peak hearth May 31, 2024, 1:48 AM

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Laplace also needs her own Treasure up to par, otherwise her beam of death is only 5 seconds, instead of Treasure-modified 10 seconds

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Laplace’s Hero Vision would also be weaker (5s duration instead of 15s duration)

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So yep, get Laplace treasured up first

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Though whether that will make her highly competitive is another question

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So hard to sense that now, but I’m excited by the idea of 10 seconds of that beam

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LaplaceBurst2

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But as noted, this brings Rem back into the hotspot.

Laplace has no ATK buffs herself, it’s pure dmg.
Rem buffs RL ATK a lot.
Frima buffs Laplace’s true damage a lot.

Equals? Melted butter.

restive walrus May 31, 2024, 1:51 AM

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solemn pine May 31, 2024, 2:04 AM

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sg, sw and now lapchong. damn competitive as team 5 choices

soft urchin May 31, 2024, 2:55 AM

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peak hearth The other thing is, Frima needs to get to this point, eventually. Could be a whi...

I guess currently you'd run Frima/Rem/Emilia/Laplace/??? and just use Emilia burst first

fossil fox May 31, 2024, 3:05 AM

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huh

solemn pine May 31, 2024, 3:56 AM

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cdr doko

restive walrus May 31, 2024, 4:08 AM

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CDR last spot

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that team has both Rem and Frima

#[Rem] New Unit Megathread