[A2] New Unit Megathread

[granite lynx]

Hmm

Fuck then

[celest urchin]

Let me rephrase the conditions

• 11.67% charge speed from Alice S1
• 4.92% charge speed from 2 OL lines
• 28.74% from lv 5 burst of A2

[granite lynx]

You test again

Confirm the frame

Number

You might have been wrong

[celest urchin]

yep, 25 frames

the moment it reached 343%, I stopped

[granite lynx]

How long is thay

[celest urchin]

you can see, a 24-25 frames delay only for that 343%

[granite lynx]

4.92 * 2 you mean

[celest urchin]

well sure, let's say it works that way first

so 9.84%

damn this is interesting

let me throw a Maxwell in

a Yuni too for the lmao

shit, max has too high atk ._.

[granite lynx]

Maybe its part of the animation shit

There is a hidden multiplier

Maybe

[celest urchin]

Maxwell: 4.48s CS
Yuni: 4.93% CS

Let's see

[granite lynx]

I think it multiplies other charge speed buffs

[celest urchin]

did gain buff from Max and Yuni

may be

[granite lynx]

Im gonna wait 2 more mins

[celest urchin]

20 frames

so, move from 0.417 to 0.333

actually slower than expected lmao wtf

[granite lynx]

Huh

So charge speed has a

Threshold per value

[celest urchin]

try checking a few random bullet, yep each bullet charges 20 frames or 0.333s

[granite lynx]

No Alice?

[celest urchin]

we are at 67.7% charge speed here

[granite lynx]

Then its true right

Normal maths

Exactly right

[celest urchin]

11.67+9.41+9.84+28.74=59.66%

still lacks eh

7%

where the hell is this 7%

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

more like 8% but whatever

[granite lynx]

The non Max Yuni also

didn't have 7%

-8%

Part of B mode

Or animation

[celest urchin]

yuni here

[granite lynx]

No

The previous one

[celest urchin]

ah true

[granite lynx]

Was 50.25% => 58.3%

59.66% => 66.7%

Part of Mode B I think.

Or slight miscalc.

[celest urchin]

non burst takes 54 frames or 0.9s per charge. Pretty true due to almost 10% charge speed

the problem is with mode B

[granite lynx]

No

The animation

[celest urchin]

I only check the % man, don't even check animation here

[granite lynx]

Reduces charge time by 10%

After chg spd is added

Idk

[celest urchin]

[granite lynx]

Or 16

Weird stuff

[celest urchin]

hm

may be

we don't know the charge time is still 1s yeah

[granite lynx]

Or its just how charge speed works

[celest urchin]

btw non other CS buff except OL and self

0.582s or 41.8% charge speed

Self CS: 38.58%
So yeah, the more CS I gain, the bigger the diff

[granite lynx]

Since every sec, it charges for 1.7%

[celest urchin]

from like, 3.3% => whoopise 8% diff

let see from Alice POV

[granite lynx]

Ure saying chg time is 0.9s

?

[celest urchin]

on who?

Alice has 31.51% charge speed. Since her charge time is 1.5s, she should charge at 1.027s for full charge
Her full charge is somewhere between 61 and 62 frames or 1.015 ~ 1.032. Which is pretty true

only A2 has the significant different

[sullen mica]

Try with sim room buff

[granite lynx]

Cus her charge speed is 0.9s

Game lied

Or 0.8s

[celest urchin]

have you rolled any charge speed on her?

https://somewes.com/frame-count/

can use this to count the frame

that's what I and Kos use to calculate frame stuff

[granite lynx]

If u do the maths

Her chg time is around 0.83-0.84s on Mode B

I think

Hang on a second

Wait

Maybe the 47% thingy

Lmao

@celest urchin I think it's the 47% thingy

Or no

Idk

It seems to be

[celest urchin]

I will find some spare time and stack sim room buff

[granite lynx]

Nah

Yeah Mode B seems to come with self reduction

To charge time

Because 0.83-0.84s fits charge speed well.

[celest urchin]

wait

this 0.84 looks oddly familiar

[granite lynx]

Hmmm

Ah yes animation lock

That screenshot

Lmao

[celest urchin]

[granite lynx]

Maintain_fire_stance is

Charge time?

Wtf

[celest urchin]

who would have thought

[celest urchin]

0.417s, pretty close

also why 49.75%? Mine is 50.25%

[granite lynx]

Yep

It's fucking multiplier to charge time

Lmao

Which means it isnt active

Before Mode B

How fucking secretive they are

@royal brook the 84% is most likely a multiplier to charge time

Not 0.84s animation

In Mode B, she has a charge time of 0.84s.

Not 1s.

Making charge speed more useless.

[celest urchin]

yep

[granite lynx]

And worse

The 47

Tf does that mean

A hidden number

Can you find if chg spd reduces animation time?

[celest urchin]

for A2? or anyone in general?

[granite lynx]

A2

The 47% might have been a multiplier to that

As in 50% chg spd, would make it cut down by idk 28.5%?

Doesnt make sense but yeah

[celest urchin]

still 12 frames from full charge to actually shoots (0.2s)
26 frames to go back to charging (0.433s)

With or without Alice (11.67% charge speed diff)

[granite lynx]

So 0.433s delay in total?

[celest urchin]

0.633s

[granite lynx]

Kinda gay tbf

[celest urchin]

fixed lmao

[granite lynx]

In Mode B?

[celest urchin]

yep

in rush B

[granite lynx]

It's 0.633?

Why Rush B

Are u csgo player

STF

[celest urchin]

cyka blyatt

[mild kindle]

[granite lynx]

Are u sure it's 0.633s?

It feels

Faster

[celest urchin]

yes, 0.633s

[granite lynx]

Thats gay

Very gay

SUPER gay

[celest urchin]

from full charge to actually shoot

[granite lynx]

But

[celest urchin]

she wastes 0.2s to push the sword then swing

[granite lynx]

U said she shoots 1 per sec

Was that a scam

[celest urchin]

well charge time matters man

[granite lynx]

No, u used base stats

Bruh

[celest urchin]

well I calculated from a

Nikkepedia

it doesn't reflect reality I guess

[granite lynx]

Bruh

Im sure she fires faster than that

Well Idk

Mine is at

25+28% chg spd

So

But she definitely fires fastee than 1s

Per second

Maybe Im just

Wrong

Hahahhahaha

But more chg spd = more burst regen

[sullen mica]

[granite lynx]

If I can reach 1s per bar

I can burst 8 times

Jk

Dont

Ideally, that's 2.85s per bar

For 14 bursts

And liter choke exists for the first 2

[celest urchin]

exactly same frame right. That's 73 frames. 38 frames delay so my charging took 35 frames (which is also correct)

[granite lynx]

Soooooo

1.217s?

[celest urchin]

yeah, time between hit for my A2

no Alice, so it's eh 38.35% charge speed

to be kinda same as normal RL

[astral rose]

https://youtu.be/oGQUevfJruY?si=RHUNd-_F8dxvS9Mi

[astral rose]

[granite lynx]

Oh bad maths

[celest urchin]

damn sky is fast

[granite lynx]

Wrong number

[celest urchin]

ewww healing

🚮

just manual Pepper

ez pz

or use some god damn limited Nikke like Mary

or roll blanc

pretty easy

[granite lynx]

Bro forgot Helm

Entirely

Or is it cut off

Smh

When Nikke.gg + Prydwen both mention it

I think he put it last

Well Folkwang and Helm are similar

One requires u to burst with Helm, one requires u to burst with Folk

[celest urchin]

the point is

Helm can't keep A2 in touch

she takes around 15 - 17s to delete herself out of Burst

while Helm requires 40s cd lmao

[fair depot]

with the new finding does it change anything?

[last knoll]

I can't beat modernia with A2 hahahsha

I don't know how but she makes it a little difficult

Yes... just a little

[tacit timber]

because youre not supposed to break her wings

[last knoll]

[mild escarp]

Ya, don't use a2 on modernia

[tardy goblet]

I looked up A2 stuff, and the charge animation that was forced on her seems to make it so manual play is barely better than auto. Is this true?

[solid rover]

I mean you dont need confirmation for that

Yeha its a pretty shoehorned mechanic to test the waters on rl changes

All itll do is put more emphasis on alice/centi style RLs and put more pressure on them to make sure future units are actually decently designed

All because they dont like people clicking fast

Shift up are kings at creating problems with easy solutions, then creating more problems to fix the problem.

Pretty problematic if you ask me.

[tardy goblet]

I really like using manual to improve DPS/burst gen by fast clicking, so I don't really feel like buying A2 with the golden tickets

[granite lynx]

A2 currently has the highest theoretical DPS

Much better than Alice and Modernia

Are you sure?

[tardy goblet]

Against what bosses?

[royal brook]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059468005911830558/1149780251812040895/ezgif-3-0c2fdffb8c.gif

[celest urchin]

barely?

we are talking about 40.88% part dmg bonus on every full charge hit

[royal brook]

imagine 1000 part boss

[keen gale]

I love seeing Gatrix and Kisenix arguing you guys always fighting for some reason

Now kiss

[serene juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-cat-hip-gif-22084636

[dull oracle]

https://puu.sh/JQ1IK/9fa66e6abe.png

A2 gaming

[granite lynx]

Sakura gaming*

[marble snow]

Holy shit dawg, sakura Emma gaming

[solid rover]

Two people who most likely are on the spectrum in some shape or form obsessively theory crafting and crunching numbers typically result in these kinds of interactions. Just take some popcorn and enjoy.

[brazen zealot]

sr

today

[spiral sedge]

W.O.W

[azure temple]

[uncut relic]

is a2 free train?

[mild kindle]

she can be

[spiral sedge]

His box is freetrain

[royal brook]

all units are free train

[fair depot]

half modernia

[spiral sedge]

my number exactly like hurrdurr, u have cp gap

[keen gale]

Alice full invest manual, A2 have 3 overload skill 5-5-5

[serene juniper]

my bad though for bursting with alice first and immediately breaking all 4 parts

yea, nah, still the same shit

[spiral sedge]

CpGapProbie, better use rosanna at this point

[fleet vault]

https://i.imgur.com/kepYJEM.png https://i.imgur.com/QSCWSSk.png https://i.imgur.com/V3cbQMD.png
full auto, kinda forgot to level A2 skills more though

[spiral sedge]

oh nonono bricked a2

[mystic olive]

how does A2 perform against solo raid boss?

[royal brook]

gotta wait till tomorrow

if u want a real answer

but probably is the best dps

[mystic olive]

[brazen zealot]

[brazen zealot]

probie

[solemn marsh]

If they gave Whitesmith's turrets high hp enough so that it won't break for the whole fight then I think she'll be amazing.

Only if she's not getting attack by Whitesmith though

[edgy oriole]

or unlimited spawn without cd

[next cypress]

Seems pretty good. Seems to hover around 130-140m with most team comps I tried

just gotta wait and see how CM is

[mystic olive]

CM WhiteSmith: turret go brrrt and A2 out of berserk mode

[last knoll]

And will happen

[fair depot]

[fair depot]

A2 is too good for this team. Zombie scarlet strat is not working. failed

[flat patio]

I actually pulled for A2 is she goodge

[mild escarp]

She's wrecking in solo raid

Outside of that

[flat patio]

[fair depot]

nah she is incredible in campaign too

[spiral sedge]

A2 is very good in campaign, until u face like 2 elites or so

and u need the other B3 to carry your butt

[mild kindle]

until you get farted on

[brazen zealot]

fart kill all

doesnt matter what unit

[mild kindle]

true

[brazen zealot]

ssr rapture

[mild kindle]

the true raid boss

[keen gale]

[serene juniper]

nah farters is alright.
it's the really tanky but for some reason one shotting elites that love to teleport/jump around that can fuck off

like goblet/screamer

[mystic olive]

Does A2 be able to hit core and turret and cylinder at the same time?

[flint girder]

Yes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1121182180404633690/1152337361238249572/image.png

Noir highest atk though and A2 get 2nd highest when she burst

So probably can get more when i fix alice to highest(747 A2) this boss is design for A2 lol

[mystic olive]

So does A2 need a high investment? i haven't upgraded her on anything...

[flint girder]

Nah my a2 is 747 full lv 2 OL almost no good roll

1charge spd 2 ammunition and 1 ele

And she already kinda insane(0lb)

[mystic olive]

2B eat all resources xD

[flint girder]

But that being said like people said this boss is for her

She hit legit 5 stuff at once

Imagine alexander

She probably destroy him

[serene juniper]

too bad the back parts don’t respawn and the turrets only respawn once

[flint girder]

Ye

If it was like alexander

It ultra dumb lol

Cuz she is bunker

[mystic olive]

hmm, i can use her for Alice team, and Scarlet for 2B team

btw, is that A2 no MLB?

[flint girder]

0lb

I think people that invest her can get probably 700m+

On top with alice probably

If alice1st and a2 2nd

[mystic olive]

So should i destroy turrets and cylinders?

or keep cylinders alive as long as possible?

[flint girder]

With alice and a2?

[mild kindle]

no destroy them all

unless you want your teams to get fucked

[flint girder]

I just use alice to kill the 2 turrets first

[mystic olive]

what does cylinders do though?

[flint girder]

Iirc it later on when he do random projectiles

The one that mix indestructable projectile

But in my case i just kill 2 turrets and a2 kill the cylinder cuz her aoe

So i ignore the cylinder with A2 team pretty much

The turrets hit really hard so have to kill it first too ofc

[flint girder]

[mystic olive]

CM btw

Alice core 5, peak investment

[flint girder]

That alice cp is insane

Oh i see

[mystic olive]

A2 skills are 5/5/5, no OL xD

[flint girder]

I never seen alice dupe

But then again i didnt have any pilgrim until chap 21

[mystic olive]

actually, i can buy another dupe for her via silver ticket, but i'm still waiting for 2nd dupe drop from gacha

or her rerun banner

[flint girder]

Alice doesnt have silver ticket iirc

[mystic olive]

...i just check, yup...

[flint girder]

But ye personally i think you invested in 2B is still much worth it

It just cuz this boss designed for A2

If he only core 2b destroy him lol

I saw top people perform really high with 2B team too

[mystic olive]

well, pray for Alice rerun banner

i need 2 more dupes for Prism 😢

[flint girder]

I do have copium that anniversary they give us dupe selector

The one that include alice

I have really high affection for alice lol cuz 21 chapter with no pilgrim alice pretty much get me through everything

[mystic olive]

50 pulls, i got 2 A2 and then i bought her copy 😄

[flint girder]

[granite lynx]

Now she will have highest ATK and u will regret

See, A2 is more LB worthy than 2B.

[mystic olive]

Does turret shot her or Tentacle?

[granite lynx]

Turret.

[mystic olive]

oh don't worry, my Alice burst first and killed 1 turret, then drained 1/3 HP of the other turret, and when A2 burst, then turret be gone

yeah Alice is kinda ridiculous... i can let A2 take a cover, one turret is not enough to break the cover

[granite lynx]

Oh, Alice and A2 dont mix.

A2 wants the turrets to stay alive.

Alice wants them to die.

[mystic olive]

I think I can let 1 turret live, I let the cylinders alive and it broke around when WhiteSmith began to shoot colorful bullets.

[half depot]

on SR my a2 gets targeted all the time and she's fine with bunnies

[mystic olive]

he is joking

[reef plover]

running a2 + alice actually out damaged my a2 + mod team by a marginal amount

so probalby some variance

but, alice max doro privaty matched that teams damage so they're better separate anyway

caveat being a2 not finished though

[uncut relic]

so i a2 free train?

[scenic pulsar]

yeah sure

she's about the same as alice, enough investment and you can knock out train parts so they won't bother you

[fair depot]

Guess who use Alice+A2

[granite lynx]

I wouldnt have if my rng is good

They still dont mix

Im forcing

[spiral sedge]

#pve-team-building message

No 🧢

[uncut relic]

Do i have to use rapi?

[spiral sedge]

No i trolled w rapi

[uncut relic]

Oh ok

I had trouble with train uhh how invested is your a2?

[spiral sedge]

Mlb 4ol

Thats why the rapi

[uncut relic]

Oh can i still do that non mlb

[spiral sedge]

Ye just look for another decent dps to fill the power gap

[uncut relic]

Ok and skill and ol?

[spiral sedge]

Idk try go as high as u can but not over 7/7/7

S2 priority

Its not about a2 only its about the other 4 too

But a2 has caliber to carry, just behind modernia imo

[keen tide]

This is a great reroll for A2

[fair depot]

Yes

[mystic olive]

mine today, 9 ammo A2 have now, 6 ammo is default.

[mystic olive]

About A2, if boss's parts get destroyed, she won't get the buff, right?

actually, has anyone made a visual radius of A2's expanded range? from default to lv 1 to lv 5 to lv 10 on skill level?

[royal brook]

Once boss parts r gone a2 becomes mid2

[mystic olive]

you can say A2 come 2B mid

huehuehue

[tropic plinth]

Yur mum

[brazen zealot]

no need for mast now

?

[mild kindle]

Mast never worked for A2 wut

That's how you speedrun out of mode b

[spiral sedge]

The manager that never goes to his own kitchen doc

[brazen zealot]

oh lol wrong thread

[brazen zealot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/909333122397634571/1148149368277450792/ezgif-5-ad214eeb8d.gif

[keen gale]

For the upcoming Union Raid, A2 will be a bad choice right?

Edit, *Solo raid

[flat tapir]

Mod will most likely have her wings so probably not

And projectiles

Don't expect her to perform like she did on Whitesmith though

[spiral sedge]

could be used in Nihilister (if u dont care about elemental advantage)
or Rebuild Cucumber to maintain dps while ignore destroying the boms (A2 takes care of it)

[flat tapir]

Oww snap he said ur not Sr

[keen gale]

I was misremembered, was gonna talk about Modernia but forgot that Union raid have many bosses (thx for the advice tho)

[keen gale]

Nah you're right, mb

[rustic warren]

I got a few copies of 2B bc people said that she scales well with more copies because of the extra HP.

How about A2?

Dont have many more gems left and it looks like marciana, nega and tia are going to be top tier.
Not to mention anyversary incoming....

[spiral sedge]

Having more a2 copy wont save her from dying if you miss out on tia naga

Marciana not top tier just skip

[royal brook]

more copies of 2B enables her to solo tank solo raids (since the bosses seem to be trending towards focusing highest attack)

the breakpoint is undertermined for the future

i just core 7'ed her 🤷‍♂️

[rustic warren]

What?

[serene juniper]

it's more about the fact that there's really no outstanding OL lines that can help 2b scale since she's not the traditional dps due to her s2.

so the only way she can scale better atm is via dupes and recycling room levels

[spiral sedge]

Im saying if u think of getting more a2 copy and gem is low, then save for tia naga

[rustic warren]

I guess I will go for it since she is not available forever while the schoolgirls will

[serene juniper]

A2 can still be carried by good OL lines (atk, max ammo, charge damage, ele damage etc)
2B can't

[rustic warren]

I think I will go for A2 and will then save for anyversary

[spiral sedge]

Fair

[rustic warren]

Thxx

[keen gale]

but she's still a good dps at 0 dupe right?

[sleek trellis]

she can be

but yeah, there's limited ways to gain HP outside of level gains (which don't apply in content that scales down level), ally skills that increase HP, bond level and core level increases (MLB in particular lets you get max bond level of 30, so it increases HP in two ways)

when you finally finish upgrading her armor

[weak stone]

I believe mlb only unlock the lobby. If its bond level, 2LB unlocks the level 30. On pilgrim unit though, i believe the last LB unlocks lv 40

[sleek trellis]

I was referring to raw stats

Nothing else

All NIKKES get access to max bond level when they're MLB, 30 for non-pilgrims, 40 for pilgrims

And then ofc, the raw stats gained from limit breaking/core up

It's all small, but unlike atk, there is no OL HP line

So someone like 2b appreciates MLB more more than regular DPS NIKKES, since she doesn't value atk as much as HP.

[granite lynx]

2LB for nonpilgrims, not MLB

[sleek trellis]

Pilgrims need MLB to get bond level 40

They are the only units that can reach 40 bond

[royal brook]

Non pilgrims get 30 bond at 2 limit breaks not 3

[sleek trellis]

Oh, my bad. I misunderstood

But yeah, it's kinda funny how pilgrims have this distinct feature.

Just a little bit more stat potential vs non-pilgrims.

To add onto their exclusivity

[fair depot]

No UR for A2 sadge

[scarlet cradle]

Does material H not good for her? I save few precious seconds every time it spawn the mobs + shield and A2 just obliterate it in less than 2 sec

[fair depot]

Boss parts are too weak here

[golden owl]

So currently, which is A2's best team?

[spiral sedge]

Top down best to worst in term of campaign clear:
a/Tia Naga + A2 (early analysis)
a/Blanc Noir + A2
b/Rapunzel + A2
b/Summer Mary + A2
c/Pepper-Privaty or Marciana + A2
c/Folkwang + A2
imho

[scarlet cradle]

wont tia naga a bad pick for A2? i think the schollgirl duo want B3 that can focus on core like alice, SW or maxwell

[spiral sedge]

its for campaign as i mentioned

[scarlet cradle]

ah fair

[mild kindle]

Yeah he's doing campaign healer + A2 comps

since A2 requires a healer for perma mode B

[golden owl]

And for SI specially train?

bunnies+ A2?

[spiral sedge]

Yes, Tianaga is also fine

A2 nature alone is good enough

[golden owl]

would S!Mary be also required to mantain her HP or bunnies/Gyarus healing is enough so Dorothy/Liter can be added to the team?

[spiral sedge]

No need the pairs alone are sufficient

[fair depot]

A2 Story late should be sss.
Scarlet has sss rate but i can’t clear anything with her

[spiral sedge]

let them know dawg

[brazen zealot]

Try hard campaign

[marble snow]

Fym you can't clear anything with her

You're kidding

But yeah A2 is good

[spiral sedge]

I malded and pumped all redhood skill books for A2, still lost if stage has a fart monster

She good with everything single thing but the farts

[marble snow]

Just don't use her for farts then

[fair depot]

upgrade 1st skill more

[azure temple]

[keen tide]

Does having another max ammo slot for A2 make her better?

[spiral sedge]

Not really

She need atk%

To be effectively punching hard if u use her in story mode

[woven olive]

This one’s for Momo

Maybe 3rd lowest cp clear

[royal brook]

momo quit?

[woven olive]

Left server

[granite lynx]

he quit

[royal brook]

ate too much kisenix cooking

got food poisoning

permanently debilitated

[wide gorge]

wait momo no why

[mild kindle]

it's because you guys complained about his music choice in his videos too much /s

[keen tide]

Wow dudes

[brazen zealot]

@spiral sedge

He still here

Guys bully him

[granite lynx]

He went back

[spiral sedge]

A2 GOOD

QUEEN OF AOE 🔇

[marble snow]

15 hp

[keen tide]

Yep that's why A2 is a super good unit to wipe out crowds

[brazen zealot]

Nice music

[serene juniper]

[granite lynx]

Can only be done with 4 attack A2 which I don't have for now

I will have soon

[brazen zealot]

@spiral sedge fking cheater

[thorny swallow]

she was bugged and still bad

imagine

[spiral sedge]

Mine has 3

[serene juniper]

does this mean

A2's burst gen is also fucked

or is it just applying double damage in a single instance?

or 2 instances of correct damage?

[brazen zealot]

Cheater

[spiral sedge]

Stfu nuub

[brazen zealot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968098119717904433/1148092451228233788/ezgif-4-0f7b00b655.gif

[granite lynx]

Cant relate

[keen tide]

Wth, isn't that supposed to be the design?? If hitting an enemy gets hit with a full charge, it also deals additional dmg

[amber glen]

It was dealing said additional damage twice, apparently

[keen tide]

Oh ok

[calm rapids]

Didn’t change anything A2 still good to use (SI modernia)

[keen tide]

I use her on train, GD and blacksmith

On train, she's a necessity to break the turrets faster

[spiral sedge]

didnt @granite lynx said it only happened when u have 4 lines of atk%

it wouldnt affect most of us unlucky bastards with 4 def lines

[wide gorge]

@spiral sedge momo what's the deal with chapter 17 boss

am i not supposed to push below a certain hp somewhere

[spiral sedge]

@marble snow whats the deal with chapter 17 boss?

trust me i never fight them

[wide gorge]

i just removed a couple of stitches so i cant see shit

[brazen zealot]

cope cheater

[wide gorge]

i cant even see the black bombs they just spawn

[brazen zealot]

[spiral sedge]

ok alice 1 trick

[brazen zealot]

i dont even use alice that much

[spiral sedge]

the record looks different here, shut your mou

[brazen zealot]

of 1 stage?

yeah right

[spiral sedge]

wat are u talking about, i have vid of all other stage that has the name hurrdurr with alice in the middle

11th rank

tskk tskk

[brazen zealot]

how many alice out of total stage

[spiral sedge]

ayy lost count dont want to audit them

[brazen zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[spiral sedge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946719897390563328/1175331995706982472/20f2d0846de9c31b6d57180754c1de7151355ac6e7c086089da67b2e1a0b2c96.gif?ex=656ad838&is=65586338&hm=51dee99c0cf0c8a7925ebb2a325eee438f26cdaf3444410f838e4a693a961c42&

[brazen zealot]

heck u

nerd

[marble snow]

Use Tia Naga liter imo
Manual Tia to avoid taking any damage
Redhood and one other high DPS unit, modernia if you have ele
Alice if you have chair or can spam well is preferred over redhood immensely.

It's a DPS rush. Nothing else.

How it works is that
Clear all mob waves
Once he's 145-150 bars, wait for him to teleport once and reappear again. Immediately burst with rh/Alice.
You need to bring his hp from 145-150 bars-> 101 bars somehow.
Then cover and wait for him to do his thing that will kill your cover. Now you want him to teleport and as soon as he reappears:
Alice/rh burst to then rush his ass down to 0 hp bars before he does the green bullet thing that kills you

Reference video
https://youtu.be/9xZLxdvIQTQ?si=PlbTiyuJ3HD7Z1dZ

[wide gorge]

tyvm its that 101 bar thing then, cuz he keeps spamming me with shit

[marble snow]

Tia will die from it xD
So you still have a full team

Make sure to target the core when shooting down the boss

[marble snow]

It needs to go from 101 -> 0

So make sure to hold out until you can burdt

[wide gorge]

@marble snowthank you very much 💞 only took me 4 hours

[marble snow]

Only 4 hrs

[wide gorge]

dorothy saves the day as always

[gleaming hatch]

RIP A2
2023 Augst -2023 December

[keen tide]

At least she is a good RL fire unit

[serene juniper]

A2 probably can still bust multi parts fast

scalt can't really do that unless the distributed damage hit parts

[gleaming hatch]

Did u use her against chatterbox?

[serene juniper]

didn’t

cb part destruction needed to be fast af

my A2 is only lb1 with minimal investment

[gleaming hatch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/956062677145374750.png?v=1

[keen tide]

I might as well reset A2's skills since I haven't touched her at all after getting more great dps units

[granite lynx]

Smart move!

Reset novel better imo

[keen tide]

Yea, I'll give all of them to Leona

[astral rose]

Wait....

Fuck your right

Same thing happened to me.... except for autoing blacksmith

[keen tide]

I used her for both train and blacksmith, until I invested in RH

[flat tapir]

guy's should i pull her

[marble snow]

[celest dove]

[wide gorge]

yes

[odd jewel]

definitely for next solo raid

[gleaming mountain]

I am still using her in campaign very good for defense tower

[scarlet cradle]

I'm here for the rise of a2 stocks

[flat tapir]

Good thing i pulled her last week

[granite lynx]

A2 is actually shit

without parts

Rem wont save her

she has no multiplier

if no parts

her only buff is part damage

superseded by Emilia no cap

the only RL that works with her rn is Emilia only

and her https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/power

[scarlet cradle]

So csm collab rerun when?

[granite lynx]

but rn better to run SBS Alice

and not use Emilia burst

opens up Tiga slot for RH

and Xlud

and then Mod and Max def go to LitBun

u can choose not to use Alice burst too if u want for fun

just there for charge speed buff

[marble snow]

Why not use Emilia burst

Also, why do you wanna run Emilia barebone

[granite lynx]

cus her buffs are outside burst

her burst is shit lmao

300%- charge speed means 4x charge time

what u get is 5x damage

[marble snow]

But it's 1500% nuke

Isn't it worth something

[granite lynx]

no

charge damage buff

not 1500% nuke

want nuke go Power

that girl does nuke

[marble snow]

Her nuke is minimum 2200% of her ATK from what me and KosMiu discussed

[granite lynx]

it's 1300% charge damage

not 1300% of attack

so her charge becomes 1610% assuming max of the max buffs

[marble snow]

There's S2 as well

[granite lynx]

base is 310%

[marble snow]

And full burst bonus

[granite lynx]

ok 1610% over 4s

versus 310% per sec (slightly more) over 4s

u get 1 more shot + range

[marble snow]

I understand

[granite lynx]

if boss doesnt need range

just run Emilia SBS Alice

Alice bursts maybe

but if u need range

Alice can fully support and cry in the corner

the charge speed buff is 1.5x for Emilia

as all we know

wait

nah

Rem will steal the buff

[marble snow]

AHAHAHAHA

That's funny

[keen tide]

She's only good if the person doesn't have modernia

[gleaming mountain]

I have both but Modernia has only 1 OL gear (thanks to SU to not giving us a selective box) and I was able to full OL gears A2

I am still using A2 in campaign because I was able to OL gears her very fast

Modernia is still waiting her full set

[keen tide]

I already did full OL A2 with good slots but I reset her skills when mPriv came out and I gave them all to Leona

Also I just recently full OL on modernia but I still need to work on her slots, need to get better rerolls for slots

[lofty oxide]

Power Fans Rejoice?

[fair depot]

Wont use
A2 Burst once better?

[royal brook]

a2 wud want to burst

her s1 charge damage is a lot

110.44/250= 44.176% dmg up

[granite lynx]

Idk man

[granite lynx]

Power > A2

if no parts

Power has bonk

bonk equals like 5000% charge

A2 has no bonk

5000% charge = 20 shots

if each takes 1.3 sec = 26 secs of DPS

A2 is dead again

I mean if u dont have Power

A2 is the closest thing

[flat tapir]

Plays Kickback

[celest urchin]

3750%

Wtf is that random 5000%

Also a2 deals about 250% atk per shot. During burst, it is 365%. So around 10 shot only. But it is indeed sad

[lofty oxide]

Power > A2 in looks, likeability, cuteability, and i prefered playing her over A2 anyways cause based. Will want to see numbers

[granite lynx]

5000

[celest urchin]

Huh

[granite lynx]

61.3% * 50

3065% atk of damage

= 5000% charge

[celest urchin]

Oh

Except it cant core hit

And what the hell is 50

Her burst modifier is 1585%

[granite lynx]

u need sleep

[celest urchin]

The 2nd part will deal 1.5 more due to fb

[granite lynx]

I alr gave full explanation

[celest urchin]

Which is *50

Wtf is *50

[serene juniper]

obviously you're not megamind enough to comprehend where it came from

[formal viper]

Mfw no Power

[fair depot]

Just use Laplace lol

[formal viper]

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[celest urchin]

Since nihi has 4 parts, a2 is viable

[gleaming mountain]

and she will be more with Rem normally, I am thinking playing RH(B1)/Rem/A2/SBS to push hard campain further, will wait some test

[formal plume]

What's A2's recommended skill levels for PvP?

[quick star]

Bench / Bench / Bench, I think

[quick star]

I’m not sure if Power bonk can make up for what seems like weaker S1 and S2?

[fair depot]

Can only be used as energy gen filler, okayish not worth it.

[edgy swallow]

since Nier collab is confirmed to rerun on July 3rd, i wonder how good (or bad) A2 is today

[quartz hatch]

A2 is mainly a Boss unit that is heavily reliant on parts.

Shows up in fire weak Raids if the Boss has parts.

Parts or bust essentially

[edgy swallow]

i'm pretty sure she will be like team 3/4/5 in Fire Raids?

since Eva, Mihara and Rapi are the best fire we have

[serene juniper]

if you miss a lot of banners and have nobody else better, A2 could be worth picking up

this game is about opportunity cost and availability. there’s only 25 slots for a solo raid/CA, if you got nothing better, you have to make do with something worse

[dusty sinew]

There's drake SG team too. Eventually we will have more fire DPS units and right now they are both in team 5 levels so their pull value is more for completionist than meta