[A2] New Unit Megathread

[tropic plinth]

fuck pvp

[granite lynx]

Look at damage hit to Centi

224

[granite lynx]

Wait no

It doesnt hit Rapu

But it hits the cover

Shit

Fuck

THIS GAME

[marble snow]

It hits nihils all parts at lvl7
And I think it hits all nikkes at lvl6?? I think

[granite lynx]

I only see 2 numbers

[marble snow]

Anyways

A2 is terrible

Mid

F tier

[fossil sinew]

i would tell you the S1 breakpoint to hit 5 but sjay will steal my data as always

[tropic plinth]

dam

[tropic plinth]

les go

more data stealing

[marble snow]

He's already finished his review

What would he steal

Also, 0 people care

[tropic plinth]

yeah, who cares about arena

[serene juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/konosuba-steal-kazuma-adventurer-anime-gif-17106503

[fossil sinew]

inside joke, you wouldn’t get it

[marble snow]

[granite lynx]

Can I

[granite lynx]

Bro

Im almost done with Prydwen review but I need info

ON WHAT BURST LEVEL WILL SHE HIT EVERYONE

[spiral sedge]

Whats prydwen late game story tier for A2?

[granite lynx]

Not provided

[serene juniper]

what's prydwen A2 review on plap plap factor?

[granite lynx]

SS or SSS, most likely SSS

[spiral sedge]

Tskk tskk Snake

[tropic plinth]

another SSS unit

[granite lynx]

No

Its SS

But im considering

[tropic plinth]

I thought Snake said she's trash

[granite lynx]

Snake does nothing in this

[granite lynx]

He only does Volume tier

@tropic plinth

At level 7

Does she hit everyone

[tropic plinth]

yeah

[granite lynx]

Cover and the Nikke?

[granite lynx]

Okay

[marble snow]

Bruh

[granite lynx]

I will credit u at the end

[marble snow]

That's all?

[granite lynx]

I alr made a section for the meme

[marble snow]

Mf just ask me then

[granite lynx]

Ok

On what S1 lebel does she hit everyone

6 or 7

[fossil sinew]

yeah it’s 7

[granite lynx]

Ok thanks

[tropic plinth]

the cover thing is overlapping

but that's 5 blue numbers

[granite lynx]

When does she hit the cover of 5th Nikke

[marble snow]

6

[granite lynx]

At what level does she hit the cover

Bro no 5 already hits u mf

[marble snow]

Similar to what nihil does

[granite lynx]

Stop

[marble snow]

At 6

[granite lynx]

At 5 she already hits

[marble snow]

But 7 she hits for dmg

[granite lynx]

@fossil sinew what is it

For the cover only

[fossil sinew]

dunno

[granite lynx]

Hmm sad

[fossil sinew]

why do you want to hit cover

[granite lynx]

Ill just at most 5

[marble snow]

Still an Increase in burst gen

[serene juniper]

so at level 7 s1, even when attacking p1 or 5, she'll hit all 5?

[marble snow]

During burst

[tropic plinth]

People.. live after? burst?

[fossil sinew]

u don’t need burst gen when you already burst lmao

[tropic plinth]

i had to put 2 question marks there

[serene juniper]

I know s1 needs her to burst bruh

[marble snow]

Oh true

I forgot

[serene juniper]

I'm asking if she hits all 5 even when she's aiming p1 or p5

[tropic plinth]

prydwen guide writer everyone

[marble snow]

Maybe cover bug would've been fun to use with a2

[fossil sinew]

damn

[marble snow]

I don't write anything 💯

[granite lynx]

Bro look at this

WHO IS DAMAGING RAPU'S COVER

[tropic plinth]

well, at least at level 7, it hits everything

at p1/p5

[granite lynx]

The NUMBER ISNT EVEN THERE

[serene juniper]

ok, good to know

[fossil sinew]

prydwen 0 : 1 nikke.gg

[granite lynx]

Is that visual glitch

I didnt say that

Btw

Thats Snake

Snake gives controversial shit

Not me

[serene juniper]

remove and I wonder what emote snake will spam instead

[granite lynx]

Snake 0:1 Sjaykin

Much better

[tropic plinth]

Snake being thrown under the bus

[granite lynx]

Avtually

Kisenix 1:0 Sjaykin for "she only hits all enemies when she is shooting the center in burst"

Kisenix 1:1 Sjaykin for "additional damage only procs once"

See its fair

We fix each other's mistake

No fighting here

Hush

[marble snow]

That's BS in my books anyways

Fix bug

[tropic plinth]

damn, people really hitting up loot and waifus

website

the link is eye shattering

[marble snow]

Let him cook

2b

[granite lynx]

Who is this calling me from malaysia

[royal brook]

think u shud get 1 copy each

then worry about who to get more of after solo raid testing

the jump from 0 copies to 1 copy is bigger than the jump from 1 copy to 2 copies

esp since they are both limited

[granite lynx]

@tropic plinth story SS or SSS

[tropic plinth]

SS

[granite lynx]

Ok thanks

[tropic plinth]

Just like that

[granite lynx]

Ok

[spiral sedge]

So thats how he comes up w the tier list, just ask nikke.gg

[granite lynx]

Anyways does anyone have screenshot of her hitting 5 units in PvP

[granite lynx]

Normally its Snake

@marble snow SS OR SSS

[marble snow]

SS
She don't got it in her for the SSS

[granite lynx]

Early SSS late SS?

[marble snow]

Yes

Mf just ask there

[granite lynx]

I will put her bossing in SS OR SSS

Since we will rework there

Hmmm

ITS A QUESTION

[marble snow]

Just put her in SS cuz without parts she is nothing

[granite lynx]

Boss adds SSS?

Oi

Oi

@marble snow

[marble snow]

Hnm

I think SS

SSS is too much for her

[granite lynx]

U sure man

Nah Ill put her in SSS for adds

[spiral sedge]

She cleans any mobs thats not elites

Like a piece of cheese cake

[granite lynx]

Anyways does anyone have screenshot of her hitting 5 units in PvP

Or video

I will credit you

[granite lynx]

Ok ty

[marble snow]

If she isn't SSS campaign
Why do you expect her to be SSS bosses(adds)

[granite lynx]

Wait

[granite lynx]

Penalty?

[marble snow]

99% of Boss (adds) you'll face moving onwards are in campaign bruh

[granite lynx]

Sjaykin

I highly doubt

Rapu can keep her healthy

If she is invested

Its so slowwwww

[tropic plinth]

i trust the gamer nun

kinda

she has emergency heals anyways

[spiral sedge]

Um why A2 hit Noah but p4p5 receive cover damage here?

[mystic olive]

https://nikke.gg/a2-early-analysis/
Arena section

[spiral sedge]

I just read that part, u mind explaining further?

[mystic olive]

no idea xD

[spiral sedge]

[tropic plinth]

oh shit

my update didn't go through

shambles!

idk what i lost

dedge

[spiral sedge]

1 member LLC

[granite lynx]

@tropic plinth added the line "thanks to valkkin at the end"

[spiral sedge]

Im coping hard

[granite lynx]

Bro

Mod?

[spiral sedge]

Mobs heavy stage

[granite lynx]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[granite lynx]

Add from Prydwen

They dk who Kisenix is

[mystic olive]

I have no idea who that guy is

[granite lynx]

Make it a meme

[granite lynx]

Fak u

[tropic plinth]

added

[granite lynx]

U dk mrbeast?

[granite lynx]

No way

Man

[tropic plinth]

i wonder

[mystic olive]

either i talk about you or mr. beast

[granite lynx]

Bro

How

Do u not know mrbeast

[mystic olive]

i'm not actually

[granite lynx]

You dont use internet that much?

[mystic olive]

i know pewdiepie, good enough?

i watched when he was fresh on making contents on youtube xD

but yeah, i don't up-to-dates on vtuber anymore

[granite lynx]

Bro

Bro says mrbeast is vtuber

Im done

[granite lynx]

@marble snow

[spiral sedge]

Bro trust me

[marble snow]

SSS for boss adds man

[granite lynx]

Trust what

[marble snow]

That's too much

[spiral sedge]

Imma fill the campaign clear screen with A2

[granite lynx]

BRO

You dk how good A2 AoE is

Smh

[marble snow]

Ok fuck it

[granite lynx]

Wait

@tropic plinth

Do u agree if Boss (adds) A2 is SSS

[tropic plinth]

Definitely on Nihil and Motherwhale

[granite lynx]

Nihil doesnt have adds

But okay

[tropic plinth]

oh

wait

[granite lynx]

Wait

[mystic olive]

see, i'm clueless

[granite lynx]

Do msissiles count as adds

[tropic plinth]

i thought adds always meant

with parts

[granite lynx]

Well

Oh

Adds is like mobs

Maybe missiles count too

Tbf

[tropic plinth]

dam, i understood it wrong

[marble snow]

Huh

[mystic olive]

adds are mobs

[granite lynx]

I guess u can say A2 breaks the missiles

[granite lynx]

Missiles

[mystic olive]

projectiles are missilies

[granite lynx]

Missiles are literally mobs

[marble snow]

Well regardless

[granite lynx]

That fly toward u

[marble snow]

It's joever

[granite lynx]

[marble snow]

[mystic olive]

prydwen state adds prefer to mobs, no?

[granite lynx]

Adds is extra mobs

[marble snow]

Yes

[granite lynx]

Ok so whats ur verdict

SS or SSS

[mystic olive]

well, you can use the term "projectiles" for any destroyable

ASS

[marble snow]

I hope he says F

[mystic olive]

[granite lynx]

Hmm I think adds should also refer to missiles

Lol

[tropic plinth]

uh, with annoying mobs, i can see a argument of SSS

[granite lynx]

Nvm

[mystic olive]

sigh, just call it minions and projectiles like a true gamer

[granite lynx]

SS+

then

One more tier

[mystic olive]

S for me tbh

[tropic plinth]

pulling out the +

[marble snow]

We can make a few more if you like

[tropic plinth]

les go

[granite lynx]

When u cant decide between 7 and 8

[marble snow]

I wanna put volume in F -

[granite lynx]

So u pick 7.5

[tropic plinth]

what is this volume slander

you ok snake

[granite lynx]

Snake puts Volume in F in pvp

[tropic plinth]

[granite lynx]

He says the argument for that is:

[marble snow]

If anything, I want to put biscuit and jackal in F tier cuz I don't have them

[granite lynx]

"Crit is bad for PvP. RNG is bad. Her damage is lower than Product something."

But on the other side

[granite lynx]

He says:

"Scar crit will fuck that team."

"Team that dies to a Scar crit."

[marble snow]

I have never promoted that shit

I'm just telling you that it's rnggaming

I've only ever explained

And yes, rng gaming is stupid

[granite lynx]

Yes then how is it F

If it improves ur RNG

[spiral sedge]

You guys know what to do next

[granite lynx]

Yes

nono

Snake actually makes a better acpu

But him being a maid is a joke

[polar mural]

So what are the final thoughts now?

[royal brook]

Good for next solo raid

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956169630400016384/1148992946318872647/1693183900094747.gif

[mystic olive]

As long as turrets won't fragile

maybe her s1 would need some level to hit both turret and core

[prisma rain]

as an f2p, should i pull for A2 meta-wise?

[marble snow]

#1146732876960890960 pins

[prisma rain]

ooh thanks

[marble snow]

https://blog.prydwen.gg/2023/09/09/a2-review-ratings-and-guide/

Ew a2

[spiral sedge]

Holy shiet

Ass Ass tier story late

https://tenor.com/view/lets-ride-nicolas-cage-gone-in60seconds-okay-gif-7806996

[tropic plinth]

it's time to read

loot and waifus in shambles

we're colluding

no drama

[mystic olive]

let see how A2 and 2B team will perform in solo raid

in theory, 2B have easy time to maintain peak dps, while A2 is a different story...

[marble snow]

Let's see first if blacksmith is ballin' or not

[brazen zealot]

[marble snow]

Last time solo noise couldn't even keep her alive

[mystic olive]

BS with the oneshot beam

or the wipe out beam

[solemn marsh]

Can she hit all the gate's part if S1 lv10?

[mystic olive]

uhm no, i think 2 parts at max

the wormhole is smole

[brazen zealot]

How do you even hit 2 parts

[mystic olive]

hmm, can try 45 degree though

[marble snow]

Gates?

[mystic olive]

basically aim at 45 degree and let explosion hit two wormholes

[solemn marsh]

I can't remember the co-op boss name.

[marble snow]

Gatekeepr

Oh

I don't know, some test

[mystic olive]

He mena the flying dishes named wormholes

[brazen zealot]

I mean you can hit all parts if the 4 rings collapse in the middle

[mystic olive]

ain't that for pierce team?

because they hide inside the body?

[celest urchin]

so

since A2 is SSS on boss with adds

can I bring her to fight Mace?

Cocytus too?

[brazen zealot]

Whats adds again?

[celest urchin]

small mobs along with boss

[brazen zealot]

Oh

Mother and child

[celest urchin]

the problem is, boss without parts normally summons tons of mob

I doubt she 1 hit everything though, but kay

after that wipe

she basically caresses the boss

eww lewd

[marble snow]

Well, yes

[mystic olive]

you have to consider boss atk pattern and aoe dmg

[celest urchin]

[marble snow]

The mobs die very fast

[celest urchin]

fast like mod killing them then go back to Mace?

[solemn marsh]

Just tested and seems like she can hit through those ring when it's gather in the center.

[granite lynx]

Well better kill mobs and stay alive then dying

[tropic plinth]

why does no one post
when i put a character in reddit

i say while

she's not updated in the fucking tier list

yet

[bitter ginkgo]

Thoughts? May change out rapunzel for smary, I really really don't want to have to make another team just for a2 if I don't have to, though this team didn't do half bad in shooting gallery

I've just realized I could swap volume for smary....

[last knoll]

[bitter ginkgo]

My lack of perception is concerning sometimes

[serene juniper]

but no cdr

[bitter ginkgo]

I dont think I've ever really had any issues with cdr, but I'll test it a bit when I wake up, ngl, I think I need to buy more synch slots

[brazen zealot]

No honri

[wary kernel]

anyone try pascal with a2

[celest urchin]

sad, Pepper auto can't heal A2

Pepper manual can heal both A2 and Guillotine

that's the diff

lmao

rapu can keep A2 burst before 90s. But i'm not sure on longer stage

blanc is okay with 4/4/10

don't have Mary BG, can't test

[mystic olive]

Blanc's skill 2 make her healing stronger

[celest urchin]

ik

the good part about A2 is, you don't need to keep her at 100%

[mystic olive]

Boss: "Are you sure about that?"

[granite lynx]

Cus they cant argue between pryd and nikkegg

[next cypress]

Because there's only two things Nikke reddit cares about

1. Posting borderline NSFW fanart
2. Complaining that characters got too much clothing on them

I gave up on Nikke subreddit long time ago, if you actually wanna discuss the characters performance it's about the worst place you could go to.

It's habited by the people who took genuine offense in the Makima "coat fiasco"

[dull mesa]

why does the manufacture logo looks like a pineapple coming out of a beer mug

[scenic pulsar]

it's a chainsaw LOL

because until now we only had chainsaw man collab, needs to be updated

[primal marlin]

can i use a2 without healer?

just for early story

[marble snow]

It's a cactus coming out from my milk mug 🍺

[gray escarp]

whats the optimal investment for A2? i just went for 5/6/7 currently

[marble snow]

7/7/7

[brazen zealot]

No point going over?

[flat tapir]

The masculine urge to tell a f2p to spend all his mileage on Non Pilgrams

[spiral sedge]

why going over while your sanis is bricked?;

https://tenor.com/view/speed-cat-hip-gif-22084636

[marble snow]

Nah

[marble snow]

Bro fucking fix your anis

Before thinking about mid2 and 2mid

[brazen zealot]

She need burst 9?

Is that what you talking about?

[brazen zealot]

I thought you said fix your anus

[marble snow]

Yes

[brazen zealot]

Oh ok

Will do

[marble snow]

Damn, #cummander-zone made it loose huh

[brazen zealot]

[marble snow]

All than bangin' be doing that to you

[brazen zealot]

Bruh i do the bangin

Not receiving

[marble snow]

Hmm time to change that for 1 second at least

[brazen zealot]

Damn only lasted 1 second

Bro is going for world record

Time to test a2

On train

[keen gale]

A2 5-5-5 3 overload 2 element 1 CS 2 crit rate

I'll try again this is kinda hard

Alice died at the last 2 second tf is happening... these 2 run is useless that's it, 3 AM here I'm ded

[granite lynx]

No doro

Doro is bad

There

Bro that team can burst every 13s

Decides to use Dorothy

One strength Alice A2 team has is insane burst gen

So you can effectively maximize A2's S1

[half depot]

I will try A2 in train soon , will be interesting to see if I can break from biscuit noah

I mean with the damage I have now I probably could , but eh

[half depot]

yus it worked

if I had 1 more second to shoot at right side at the start with A2 it would be less finicky

but I can make it work

she makes those train parts disappear

[mild kindle]

Yeah A2 pretty good for train

[granite lynx]

Attack OL?

Or charge speed variant

[half depot]

I have one piece with atk another with speed and damage%

oh and both at +0

no pieces to upgrade

kek

my alice is as decked out as she can be

[stray light]

So we have my current SSR rosters here. Suggest a decently good team.

Last night I have A2 in a 10x Advanced Pull so raises this question

Also should I 3-star her?

[wide gorge]

sure

you need something to get past the wall

and it's good if you give su a lot of money to prevent eos

[stray light]

eos?

[winter ridge]

End of Service

[stray light]

ah right. the when those characters out of the pulls eh?

[spiral sedge]

Train FT.Rapi

[spiral sedge]

#pve-team-building message
full run

[dull mesa]

liter novel modern alice snow
maxwell probably better syn and centi prolly better too
but everyone does that

[stray light]

Now how about a formation with an A2

[royal brook]

[dull mesa]

taht's harder....
probably liter diesel centi modern A2 i'd say
but then you don't get 1-1-3 which i think is the whole point of A2

coz u don't have a lot of options for healer to keep up A2,
if you run helm you sacrifice B3 damage dealer,
you could run liter centi modern helm with A2 as flex

[stray light]

Now who should I add into the roster

[dull mesa]

your dad's credit card

[keen gale]

Thanks. a bit easier, dk if it was harder because I was sleepy or not

I'll still go with my Alice, Mod team tho. Auto goes brrrr

[dull mesa]

pepper is the cheapest ticket to an A2 team, but to lose liter in B1 is probably not worth it

basically twin bunnies solve everything

[stray light]

[mystic olive]

[deep dagger]

what’s the best a2 team?

[mystic olive]

the team like mine, replace B3 with A2

[half depot]

I love reddit

people show a2 winning against train

now upload without bunnies

now upload without maxed units on the rest of the team

now upload with a2 having base t9 gear not upgraded not even t9m

bro , it's train , the rest of the team has to be good

or you're not clearing

[keen gale]

Bruh

I just realize I forgot to put reload cube on her

now A2 is stronger than Alice

[celest urchin]

free train

how lovely

[honest light]

I doing sub 1min SI since SAnis

[spiral sedge]

#pve-team-building message

[brazen zealot]

Does blanc +noir needs core much

[serene juniper]

noir sure

since her s1 scale off her own atk

blanc, nah

mostly cp for hard campaign/pvp ig

[brazen zealot]

Good

[spiral sedge]

bricked bunnies spotted

[brazen zealot]

Ty iprobie

[brazen zealot]

Not upgraded = bricked

Smh

[spiral sedge]

[brazen zealot]

This logic

[spiral sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-cat-hip-gif-22084636

[celest urchin]

atk > Charge dmg > Charge speed

damn that's wild

first time seeing charge dmg has some effect

[serene juniper]

because of that animation delay

[royal brook]

o.o

charge dmg > charge speed on a2?

🤔

[ionic swallow]

What was the general threshold for A2 to compete with Scarlet again? Is it 3 parts including or excluding body hit?

[half depot]

Not bad I guess

Since she's still missing atk from 2 pieces

[brazen zealot]

Rando team

[granite lynx]

@tropic plinth u use atk or chg spd

I wanna go atk but im scared

Like legit

I will brick my acc

[solemn finch]

Just 40 more stones bro

[tropic plinth]

None

I need more rocks

Is what I fucking need

[granite lynx]

No

If u go atk

Your a2 gets targeted

Ur account gets bricked

[solemn finch]

Ik

Do it

[granite lynx]

Luckily

[solemn finch]

[granite lynx]

All my first rolls on A2

Were charge speeds and ammo

Right off the bat

[solemn finch]

Charge speed legend

[granite lynx]

And then spent 10 more rocks to make this become this

[tropic plinth]

I haven't bothered thinking of teams yet for SR

[granite lynx]

Last line locked*

For context

I have a fairly healthy chance of landing ATK, elemental, or charge speed/dmg

But it fucking upgraded my crit rate

Its 2% dmg boost tho

[serene juniper]

I didn't pay attention to the event story boss but I thought I saw 4 parts

so that's 5 hits for a2?

[celest urchin]

there are 4 parts on final boss true

[solid rover]

bricked

[celest urchin]

we don't know SR one though

[granite lynx]

Same name boss?

299293928288282828?

[fair depot]

SR will have 4 parts that way they can say we didn’t reuse old sr boss

[granite lynx]

A2 will be broken as shit

I want to get her LBs but I know my account will be permanently bricked

[celest urchin]

I don't know

can you just

roll 4 OL attack lines on Mod

• core max mod?

that way A2 will never be able to surpass mod if you only have decent atk on her

[celest urchin]

wait

shit I add atk from OL twice

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

no wonder atk feels so good on 2B lmao

[sullen mica]

Damn whitesmith got 4 parts

2 guns and 2 shoulders

A2 gonna be insane

[glass viper]

a2 ez 2B dmg, no pun inteded

[serene juniper]

laplace stonks

time to OL lap+

[bitter ginkgo]

So when's whitesmith dropping? Im eager to test my teams

[serene juniper]

this thursday

[bitter ginkgo]

Sweet, itl be nice to see how well they perform in a actual combat scenario

[solemn marsh]

Imagine roll and got a lots of atk and go play solo raid challenge

[half depot]

Wdym this Thursday , co op ?

[half depot]

Ohh

Well A2 is going to have so much fun

I'm glad I can use this A2 . On octopath when I pulled her I was already straying away from the game

Also I don't see how having high atk A2 can be a problem outside of under cp campaign push where one shotting is a risk

If you run her with bunnies and liter just cover and done

Imagine having to cover

[celest urchin]

White smith will slap you

Also alter for atk is charge dmg. It gives less than atk but if you think you are creeping toward highest atk

Just roll charge dmg instead

[honest light]

Shitposting

[daring knot]

Yall sure A2 isn't worth 200 tickets?

Isn't she a free train?

[honest light]

Everything is free train if you believe hard enough

[mild kindle]

I mean Sakura is free train do you think she's worth 200 gold mileage

[daring knot]

I.. Don't have sakura😢

But I see your point

[mild kindle]

ok well from an imo I don't think a nikke being free train is ever worth 200 gold tickets

unless they happen to be really broken as well

but then that's a given

[daring knot]

Hmm so I shouldn't stress too much about not getting A2
and save the tickets for anni?

[mild kindle]

I think A2 definitely falls in the "I have 0 gems and still want her" value wise for using gold tickets

like she's good for very specific bosses with tanky parts/multiple parts to aoe

but outside of that her value for bossing drops

[solemn marsh]

Which train are we talking about? SI?

[mild kindle]

and campaign wise she's still not beating scarlet and modernia atm but I think she does hold quite a bit of value there as long as you run a healer with her

[daring knot]

Yeah

[solemn marsh]

As people who unable to get pass train SI then it's worth it, I guess.

[daring knot]

I just run bunnies x modernia tbh

[mild kindle]

exactly lol

[honest light]

I switch to Scar Anis for campaign

Cuz Anis can hit enemies behind objects

[daring knot]

The real question is if I can manage getting 21k gems by anni

If I can
Then I might use mileage on A2

Otherwise maybe skipping is wiser

[daring knot]

Wait fr?

[mild kindle]

honestly though free train is literally just a matter of proper investment into DPS and skill check

which surprisingly a lot of people fail the skill check part

[daring knot]

Hmm I guess that makes sense

Maybe I need to invest more into skills

Right now I'm using mod, alice, bunnies liter

And I'm left with only 2 nikke by 2nd phase😢

[mild kindle]

oh you'll definitely get there then

that's literally my goto team for 38~ sec clear on train SI lol

[daring knot]

How do you even do that lol ?

[mild kindle]

alice and modernia just hit really really hard

[daring knot]

I see I have FULL OL on alice and 2 on mod

(not their reccomended OL ofcourse)

Do you just Lvl 5 all gear?

[mild kindle]

but if you wanna know any specifics it's basically
play at least miniumum 21:9 aspect ratio
I let AI run alice and manual Modernia
You can burst immediately if you know you can destroy the back set of parts before it goes off screen otherwise save it for just before the launcher shows up on screen
then it's just a matter of Launcher > 2 sets of back turrets > aim straight for front launcher > 2 sets of turrets

from there it's either you do the QTE because not enough DPS yet or you enter phase 2 here

QTE is easy just reload on mod if needed and hover over the QTE area

and phase 2 is really a piece of cake with alice and mod just mod murders missile if needed can even burst with her

[daring knot]

I see thanks
That's an in depth explanation

[mild kindle]

can swap to alice or noir if QTE is up and mod is caught reloading

oh also for the beginning missile spam? just all cover it if you can't DPS it well

will save on reloading and whatever

[daring knot]

I see I'm gonna try all this out

Aspect ratio means I need to update my pc version

I've been playing on mobile for a while

But I think that's what's stopping me cause the turrets go offscreen too fast

[mild kindle]

oh and as for why I manual mod over alice I actually found the run went much smoother full bursting controlling aim with mod over fast shooting with alice back when she was just barely DPSing all 6 parts down with 1 burst

like I definitely fast shoot faster than AI but idk what it was but it was always worse results than manual mod and aiming with her while AI alice shoots

[daring knot]

Everytime I try fast shoot
I deal more dps but end up worse off tbh

[mild kindle]

doesn't matter for me now since my investment into the 2 is done

honestly I think it might have to do with how wonky AI gets when you fast shoot and they enter the phase of "stops shooting until next target is on screen" so they do that stupid back and forth out of cover

which probably fucks with modernia's MG ramping to max speed

[honest light]

Free train exists since beginning, aka Noise

[daring knot]

That makes sense
I think mods MG ramp is probably more important especially if she has alot of ammo

[mild kindle]

unfortuately super skill check for many

[daring knot]

When everyone besides noise dies 💀

[honest light]

Skill issue

Noise always be targetted lol

[daring knot]

Either that or she dies

Then everyone dies afterwards

The turrets are evil tbh

[honest light]

Turret iframe possible, but timing window is tight

[daring knot]

Wow
Wish I had that skill smh
But I guess if mega invest more into alice I'll eventually beat it

[mild kindle]

nah turrets can't be iframed they just miss themselves

it's why you can literally keep shooting through their whole attack phase and not get hit

cause they literally just miss you 0 iframe

[daring knot]

But isn't that RNG?

[mild kindle]

it's just a low chance of missing is all

[mild kindle]

pretty much

[daring knot]

Alright thanks
Hopefully I beat train when it returns

[half depot]

Still, we may have modernia and scarlet but not everyone has them. So pulling for A2 is kinda a good move to ensure you'll have a relevant dps when the time comes

For newer players

[tawdry flower]

Just do train the original old fashioned way by learning how to Noise dodge.

[half depot]

eh

I did that back in the day

and im grateful for pulling biscuit

because rockets are a thing , I learned to handle them really easily

machinegun rng

is a fucking bitch

and I dont wish anyone has to deal with that ever again

[tawdry flower]

Sure but it does teach you mechanics you can do in other game modes if you need to specially in SR and UR.

[half depot]

that is cool indeed but in train the sooner you can move out from resorting to that in train , the better

it's not fun to constantly reset

[wide gorge]

there are so many ways to deal with train now i'm surprised people still can't stop talking about it

[solid rover]

Hopefully future bosses get this added to them more and more

Bosses with parts are gonna make A2 shine even stronger

Shes already p good for story clear too

Its looking all around great so far

[half depot]

Well A2 is one of those now so thats why we are talking about it

New players don't have all those options

[wide gorge]

someone enlighten me. 🙇🏻‍♂️ hitting only the arm gives you 3 hits. hitting the middle core gives you 4? i'm visually impaired, so it looks like it

[mild escarp]

Maybe hitting the middle also hits the other arm?

[wide gorge]

i thought so too. but the value of the orange damage in picture 2 seems so small and i don't know why (compared to white)

actually, the hits registered in the middle deals very little damage

if you're trying to hit the core, you need to turn auto off, unless you interrupt it's movement during lock-on (which is a hassle)
playing it manually full-charging without auto is..

[mild kindle]

A2 S2 does damage every full charge

you seeing 4 hits is core + 1 arm each + S2 full charge

[granite lynx]

Hitting the arm when her S1 is off will not hit the other arm.

You must manual Alice and aim for the middle core.

When the boss goes to the side, Alice can double hit the boss, and that double hit spot is also A2's 3-hit spot.

Position A2 in the middle.

Position Alice in leftmost or rightmost.

Alice didn't get to burst the 2nd time.

Boss already dead.

[solid rover]

I aspire to have a full melee team one day

[granite lynx]

Full auto perfect play. Alice didn't burst 2nd time.

Damage at the end of 2nd burst from another game.

The solo raid blacksmith has 4 parts.

Container left right, turret left right.

[wide gorge]

@mild kindle @granite lynx tyvm for the help!

[royal brook]

@granite lynx do u know if explosion radius works in a sphere

like i get it works vertically and horizontally

but does it work depth wise

idk if u saw but the event boss shoots these red ballsacks at us

[fair depot]

with s1 and without

[proud jacinth]

Hang on

A2 has new tech that allows her to L cancel her attack?

[brazen zealot]

???

[proud jacinth]

Cancel her delay

[brazen zealot]

how

[proud jacinth]

Oh nvm it's her Mode b that cancels the delay

[brazen zealot]

[gleaming hatch]

The delay is still there. she just charges faster

[celest urchin]

wdym?

her delay is shorter

like, half

I'm fine with the delay because in main game, she actually hits slower on heavy attack but deals more dmg

the point is, she doesn't deal more dmg with normal attack kek. If only the S1 is built in for every full charge, it will make up for the slower attack

[fair depot]

so need buff

[serene juniper]

where’s the A2 blacksmith clickbaity screenshots?

[celest urchin]

scroll up a bit

[serene juniper]

naw I wanna see a2 screenshot showing her solo carry

[granite lynx]

It does work depth wise iirc

[burnt comet]

Gatrix is right her delay gets cut by approximately half in mode B

[gleaming hatch]

hmmm

😶

[burnt comet]

also is it just me or the target lock aim assist on pc is very unreliable when u aim at BS main core instead of part core?

it doesnt lock as hard on BS core but locks real hard on gun's core

[zenith rivet]

So what's the TLDR for A2 in the meta?

[finite hemlock]

read nikke.gg and prydwen review

[zenith rivet]

Do people here agree with their veredict?

[finite hemlock]

the writers are in this thread, if you wanna search

[marble snow]

Check pins for my verdict

[celest urchin]

my meth on A2 dmg compared to other this SR (removed all elemental dmg for 4 fire nikke. If you have ele dmg this time, it's the best line)
assuming 4 parts.

On 2 parts she's top 3. This is full team buff, full OL, max core, bond 30/40, lv 5 OL gear etc...

Kinda like peak performance before elemental dmg kicks in

Also Alice has 10% time to pierce gun + leg of Blacksmith. It's kinda RNG so I just give her 10% time (18s)

[fair depot]

why 2B is so low? she is supposed to be better on long fight

[celest urchin]

remember Tsukino math about 2B deals about 90% dmg of Scarlet?

[fair depot]

it's about OL doesn't buff 2B as much right? when we assume everyone with good OL 2B fall behide

[celest urchin]

ys

she scales extremely well with elemental dmg, moderately with crit, and shit with the rest

well except the first one is niche af, 2nd one can't bring her more because crit is also shit

if only she has 9% modifier

[fair depot]

If only A2 has no delay 🤣

same energy

[celest urchin]

if only we didn't know anything and remained naive

[fair depot]

Maybe tune down their OL only 2 mid stats for each piece. Ppl might interpret 2B way worse than she actually is

[celest urchin]

[serene juniper]

I don't think I can get good A2 lines. only 3 rocks remaining and the first rolls were shit

[celest urchin]

ATK > Charge dmg > Charge speed

just remember, assuming same dupe, bond stat, gear, then A2 has around 6% atk more than Mod (assuming you run A2 Mod together) then just roll Atk OL enough to make sure Mod has 7% atk higher than A2 so Windsmith targets her

[formal viper]

Is it ever worth running charge spd cube over reload, or is the values just not high enough?

[tacit timber]

you get a max core A2? 👀

[celest urchin]

no, I can choose a lot of variations though

just pick max everything to see the peak

[tacit timber]

👀

[royal brook]

fake news kisenix told me to not use snow white this solo raid

i will use his maiden recommendation

[tropic plinth]

Well. Sounds about right. Bs has big core

[royal brook]

sjay arent u supposed to be asleep

[granite lynx]

No

Ammo (1) > ATK > Charge Damage = Charge Speed = Ammo (2)+

[marble snow]

Bro got mfs keeping tabs on him now 😭

[solid rover]

Oh, well if kisenix told you

[granite lynx]

You can

• Liter Blanc A2 Alice Noir
• Dorothy Novel Max/Privaty Helm Modernia
• Miranda Dolla/SHelm SW Maxwell/Yulha/Poli/XAnne HEAL
• Volume Diesel SAnis Guillo Drake
• Pepper/SMary/Frima Mast 2B Scarlet Dolla

[royal brook]

[timid crystal]

diesel huh?

[timid crystal]

drake, not maiden?

[tropic plinth]

Aren't you supposed to be useful

[royal brook]

[serene juniper]

so the reduced animation delay

it's tied to B mode right?

but it's gone when you're not in full burst mode or something?

[celest urchin]

it's gone when it's gone

[fair depot]

can't give a better answer myself

[wide gorge]

did i troll myself with a C7 A2

[royal brook]

yes

watch red hood have 200% charge dmg 100% charge speed 100% attack buff

with pierce

actually kinda sounding like alice

[celest urchin]

make it 100% uptime

better Alice

can't macro btw

[serene juniper]

against CB, my A2 is bricked or something

[celest urchin]

I love it when your A2 has 13k power diff from skills + dupe and still deals 65% of mod

But probably bricked lmao

[serene juniper]

well she's supposed to slaughter things with 4 hits on cb no?

barely above noir

[celest urchin]

I don't know yours. Mine looks pretty decent with trash roll anyway

also she broke the head too fast

so I got 1 punch from CB lmao

her burst ended around 0:50

so I lost 10s burst dps with her

[serene juniper]

bruh

all I did was put a2 on slot 4

[celest urchin]

her skill priority is S2 > Burst > S1 from my meth. But I have to check why charge dmg still gives her more dmg than charge speed (which shouldn't be the case zzz)

[serene juniper]

ok, I play on auto battle and the team also destroyed the head too fast

[celest urchin]

give head

[granite lynx]

Charge speed is multiplicative

You went full damage

Charge damage at level 15 actually scales better

[celest urchin]

heh

[serene juniper]

don't think A2 would be good for land eater right? since something like MG/scarlet can just break parts faster

[celest urchin]

let's say, we are comparing 24% charge speed and 58% charge dmg

24% charge speed on top of 36% charge speed = 60% charge speed. You charge 0.4s + 0.4s force delay = 0.8s per hit or 1.25 hit per sec

58% charge dmg means you charge 0.64s + 0.4s delay = 1.04s per hit or 0.96 hit per sec

1.25 hit per sec with 250%/360% charge dmg equals 1 hit per sec with 312.5%/450%

0.96 hit per sec with 308%/418% charge dmg equals 1 hit per sec with 295.68%/401.28%

this is some napkin Math

man, gotta re trace my formula again

[fossil sinew]

hint: your charge time calcs are wrong

[royal brook]

[celest urchin]

hint: that hint doesn't help

[brazen zealot]

Hint: hint

[granite lynx]

Break parts at the same time at once

[granite lynx]

You didnt consider max ammo

Charge speeds NEEDS max ammo

[celest urchin]

well I did remove Noir from the equation

[granite lynx]

Give 2 max ammo lines

Charge speed will be better

[celest urchin]

I guess Liter and Noir affects the number

also gotta double check Alice charge time a bit

[granite lynx]

Around 11%

[celest urchin]

something doesn't feel right with charge speed

[granite lynx]

MAX AMMO

.....

Give MAX AMMO lines

And it fixes itself

[celest urchin]

okay so I have 4.92% x2 OL line on my A2
My burst is 27.37% cs without any cube
I pair an Alice with A2 too

How long do you think it took for me to full charge A2?

[granite lynx]

Bro MAX AMMO

Wtf

[celest urchin]

bro I'm looking at something DIFFERENT

why are you still in max ammo???

[granite lynx]

Because I am

[celest urchin]

gtfo

[granite lynx]

Idk

I just used 1 sec as base

With burst

[serene juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26024772

[granite lynx]

Then reduced it by charge speed

0.9s?

With Alice 0.8s ish?

[celest urchin]

there's burst too

another 27.37%

so

0.69s at max right?

[granite lynx]

Burst alr added

At the beginning

I assume when B mode active base is 1 sec per shot

[celest urchin]

should only affect charge time (1s)

[granite lynx]

[celest urchin]

there's delay. You can't reduce delay

[granite lynx]

It's an assumption

[celest urchin]

btw

mine took

0.43s

from 100% => full charge

wtf lmao

how could she be so fast

that's like 57% charge speed na ni the fuck?

[granite lynx]

27.37% + 11% + 10% = 48% whats wrong

Aroune 50%

[celest urchin]

so 7% left

[granite lynx]

Probably calculation error

She doesn't have time between shots

That 0.233333 isnt there anymore

To fuck with you

[celest urchin]

I don't count animation

I count 100% then 316%

[granite lynx]

7% is within range of faulty

[celest urchin]

343% though

my bad, it was 0.417s

[granite lynx]

Wow u made it worse

[granite lynx]

[celest urchin]

to make sure I don't accidentally have lv 10 burst

[granite lynx]

Idk

Just dont count I guess

I think B Mode has more to hide

It might have applied charge speed reduction

On top of it again

As in it doesnt reduce animation length

But it reduces everything

After charge speed is applied

Or its bugged

And it applies maximum level

Or

[celest urchin]

Alice, with 10.43% cs

[granite lynx]

Charge speed isnt additive there

I think its just frame

1.317 and 1.35 is just one frame

Or two

Actually two

At 60fps

And its pretty close

Charge speed might have been multiplicative

The burst part

127% * (110% + 11%)

Which is inline with your calculation.

[celest urchin]

I guess I have to +1 to 2 frames to final number then

[granite lynx]

No.

Alice yes.

But your A2 is 0.1 sec faster.

Bro

11.67, 28.74%, 9.84

These are your linee

50.25% charge speed

You know

Thats wrong

If ure saying it's 0.417

Check again

Confirm

Whats ur Alice S1 at?

[granite lynx]

Oh

Found it

Burst mode is multiplicative

Not the same charge speed

Exact number

Lovely

Wait

I think I fucked up

Nvm

Fucked up

[celest urchin]

oh my test with Alice, that's base number

[granite lynx]

Wait no

I fuckedbup again

[celest urchin]

Alice S1 is max so 11.67%