[2B] New Unit Megathread

[gusty hull]

Inb4 they introduce something that moves around like a jumping bean, rendering click-spamming rl/sn useless

[fleet ocean]

Calculate 2B hip size
https://forum.gamer.com.tw/C.php?bsn=36390&snA=10500&tnum=5

[fresh heron]

lmao I can understand the effort

[hollow hull]

From 88cm to 106.2cm...

[hollow hull]

mathematical weebs have a need you know

[fresh heron]

come here

I will make it quick

[hollow hull]

and I checked the math, it is almost correct, because the side measurement is where data not entirely right.

but that doesn't matter, have seggs

what? you guys calculate DPS, ammo, HP efficiency but turn off by hip's math?

[raw jacinth]

Wouldn't be the first. Anyone remember genshin bust size measurements?

[hollow hull]

Not me, i'm not the player.

[verbal copper]

You mean that in depth 3size pixel measurement?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vRbtzaFTQUMUxNTvw-jxSe2cy1S0hTBRx1vG5MJ4xdu6urMSDz4538MQeQTaUpQyLt6VXpMhgXw62dZ/pubhtml#

Up to Yelan

[echo stone]

Is there an in depth research on which part of the animation should I wait after Novel to use 2B burst?

like... do I just press 2B burst immedietly after the lightbulb explode or have to wait for it to disappear?

[fresh heron]

there is ah

damn I suddenly forget the word

ah

light bulb

if it breaks, the debuff kicks in

if this <5, better luck next time

as you can see here, no debuff lmao

once the bulb is broken, new debuff appears

[echo stone]

Oh

[fresh heron]

it takes around 1s delay

if you want rough number

[echo stone]

Thanks, I'll go check on the boss myself then

[fresh heron]

it was never a problem before because

• Instant burst dmg skills are lame (scarlet, Harran etc...) on single target boss
• Strong single target skills have delay (Snow, Max)
• General dps doesn't care since they shoot through 10s full burst

until we have a strong instant burst dmg skill without any delay

[echo stone]

Bruh, I just see that it was only up for 5 sec

Still great ig since it's about 2 times % of Blanc

[real egret]

and it requires stacking. if you don't have ammo cap OL, from my experience, it takes at least 2 burst cycles to stack up

[echo stone]

I'm ok with that, I only use her in raid anyway

[echo stone]

Oh and for anyone wondering about it like me. It just trigger almost immediately after the light bulb explode (about 5 frame) but we wouldn't notice the different with bare eyes anyway. don't have to wait for the explosive animation to completely gone.

I'm recording at 37fps btw...

Wtf

[minor remnant]

Flying Doritos is the indicator

[queen grove]

[merry yacht]

What recording is 37fps

Low bitrate prolly

[echo stone]

I'm using window game recorder (the Windows+G shortcut) but I'm running Google chrome with about 100+ tab in the background tho probably make it work like that but the game running fine with no lagging... idk why )

[merry yacht]

For 2B to be most effective, her team charging speed must not exceed 5s per bar on average.

This allows her to burst 6 times.

Exactly 6 times.

[fresh heron]

huh

but yep

6 is your max

unless you want to run some bullshit like Liter Dolla Volume

[summer wren]

Whatshe said

[merry yacht]

Alice is the only unit I've played that can burst 7 times.

Insane regen

Half of 2B's DPS is determined by support buffs.

And you want to roll crit on last 3.

[mild valley]

how come nobody talks about guilty and 2b?

doesnt guiltys attack stealing scale insanely with 2b?

[hollow hull]

2B being meta due to the nuke that deals final dmg, Guilty only steals base attack, which 2B's self-buff is kinda low.

[mild valley]

guilty doesnt steal the buffed attack?

[dire locust]

guilty has always stolen base attack

[fresh heron]

people don't talk about Guilty for a reason

[hollow hull]

What you are looking for in Guilty is "steal final attack stats", imagine how broken she would be

[empty rock]

considering how many atk% buffs there are, including Liter, stealing final attack would be broken beyond belief

[mild valley]

they should do that

[empty rock]

on the other hand

none of the top tier attackers are wind

no, noir doesn't count she's there because you want blanc

[lost delta]

Meh

Volume, mast and rapu 4/4/4

[lilac spindle]

Is there a suitable substitute for Mast? i cant decide between quency or novel as a burst 2 for 2B

[dire locust]

for solo raids?

novel is likely better on another team

so quency is fine with 2B

[lilac spindle]

Jepp for solo raid

[lilac spindle]

Thx

[echo stone]

not breaking part (core focused)

break 3 part

trying to make it fair, break 2 part, no core focused, Helm manual for basic atk crit

[real egret]

nyehh

[vivid thicket]

I hope those gun wont hurt in challenge mode.

[jade sluice]

opening the game now….

[real egret]

insert the r word here

[jade sluice]

[hollow hull]

2B max skill 2, burst lv 8, skill 1 lv 6, max manu OL helmet and body

[dire locust]

pls no more frima cook

[hollow hull]

At that stage, the shield max HP can tank turrets easily

even aoe dmg too

[jade sluice]

[hollow hull]

Let me guess: Scarlet have more core/dupes than 2B?

[jade sluice]

C7 2b c4 scar

[hollow hull]

oh wait, is that mock battle on the nearest Challenge's stage?

total dmg 329

[jade sluice]

Lv7 yeah

[hollow hull]

i forgot we can do mock battle on it xD

[jade sluice]

[hollow hull]

SR mold xD

[hollow hull]

320m dmg on lv 7 mock battle

[jade sluice]

The comp itself is memey what to expect

[hollow hull]

our lv is difference too xD

[jade sluice]

No the comp is actually bad, other 2b comp, the volume one is better

U could have done easily w volume, while frima is just 😬 my scar almost died

[fresh heron]

I love it when people use 2 best support for 2B, and expect her to out dmg non supported Scarlet

what do you expect? Nake Scarlet can be stronger than your 2B with 2 dedicated supporters?

change into Modernia

you will see it then

[merry yacht]

?

Mast Dolla, Volume Mast have been Scarlet's supports since last raid.

[dire locust]

[merry yacht]

And for the love of everyone

She isnt designed to outdps Scarlet

Well her damage cap is higher

2 elemental lines, lv 8 resilience

5/10/6

[dire locust]

[merry yacht]

Both 2LB

[minor remnant]

if no 300% ammo scarlet you don't have the right to talk

[jade sluice]

Bricked scarlet

[lost delta]

????

Scarlet squad

[fresh heron]

okay this one is valid

2B>Scar

[lost delta]

Nah

[fresh heron]

now tell me how many elemental dmg you have

[lost delta]

Just vs wind

[fresh heron]

[lost delta]

28%

[fresh heron]

I read you all like book lmao, that's 38% dmg increase.

Just divide your total with 1.38

actually

should be very close with scarlet still

[lost delta]

And is always scarlet squad

[fresh heron]

[lost delta]

In 2b squad is better use another second DPS, not scarlet

[fresh heron]

sure

which one?

[lost delta]

Modernia

[lost delta]

But I'm modernialess

[fresh heron]

so you waste your highest, may be 2nd highest dps

on trash support

[lost delta]

Actually volume and mast buff scar very well

But you know, bunnies are bunnies

A2 squad

But there is 2b in squad so, is valid post it here

[jade sluice]

Dont worry mods have left this place, they cant handle kisenix

[lost delta]

Ahahhaa

But you know guys, 2b increase her dmg a lot in long battles

She is perfect for union and solo raids

[jade sluice]

[merry yacht]

What the fuck

[merry yacht]

2B doesnt even scale with those units

But Scarlet does

[lost delta]

I know

I just use that squad for her, cuz Garrix opinion was wrong

[merry yacht]

Just to satisfy Gatrix?

[lost delta]

Yes

[merry yacht]

We are in elemental era.

Just embrace it.

Cube alone can increase damage output by 12% + 10% base.

We are already in elemental era.

That's 20% more damage than base for level 9 cube.

According to Gatrix, Modernia is better with Bastion.

But he said Resilience isn't that different.

One thing I agree with Gatrix is that Clip SG doesn't need reload speed above 70%. Privaty S1 beyond 7 is utter garbage.

The only reason why you want Privaty 10 is: you run Modernia with Priv, or you run Alice with Priv. If you're not doing any of these, just leave at 7.

The difference is very minimal. Just one FUCKING shot in burst.

[queen grove]

[stark aspen]

Should I try to core 7 2b?

[hollow hull]

does your finance support you?

[stark aspen]

Yeh I mean I also got a load of tickets left over but I’m wondering if she is worth

[hollow hull]

you need 7 dupes, highest efficienct is 0.96$ per 1 roll, that for mission pass

she is worth though, actually she is more versitale than A2 as she can peak dps against any bosses.

also she is super limited

[stark aspen]

Interesting… ppl were telling me a2 was more useful

[hollow hull]

wait tomorrow

solo raid challenge mode unlocked tomorrow

then you can see more of the performance

[stark aspen]

Nice okay thank you

[echo stone]

Just searching some message in this server and you guys say 2B is better than A2. Why is that? I mean, my half invest A2 can get up to 120 mil+ in 1:30 while almost full invest 2B need 1:30 to heat up and can get only up to 170m at around 2:20+ isn't A2 better?
Or was it because 2B dmg goes up tremendously after 1:30 that it will overcome A2 in a long run? and for A2 to be effective it need a condition like healer and boss part to do lot of dmg?? yes?

here's my team for both unit btw

[real egret]

because of both really
A2's counter is literally the boss going "lol I have no parts"

or "lol I will hit you with a high damaging attack and kick you off B mode 1 second after you activate it"

[echo stone]

ok now I see why

Thanks!

[real egret]

don't be fooled though

2b being a generic ar dps with no niche means she is easily powercrept

A2 being niche is harder to powercreep

[echo stone]

[real egret]

2b also still has her own weaknesses

shit auto modifier means she can't solo carry tanky qte's

[dawn jungle]

Should I reroll values for higher ele? Current total overload stats including this are 12.34% ele, 6.88% atk, 60.86% crit damage, 5.71% crit rate. I feel like it would be an overall increase if I get a higher roll on ele even if the crit dam and attack are lower. https://i.imgur.com/VVbtRUY.png

[worthy cedar]

If you don't have anyone else to OL immediately go for it

your values are pretty low on both ele and attack anyways

[echo stone]

bruh

how I'm I gonna survive that gun...

even with 2B and Helm I still can't counter heal it omg

[minor remnant]

just destroy it

[echo stone]

HALF AN HOUR FOR THIS

AND HER ULT ARE NOT EVEN CRIT FOR ONCE

[minor remnant]

keep resetting

[gritty peak]

heard skill 2 more important, do i keep upgrading skill 2 to max first if skill at 4 7 7

[jade sluice]

Thats what i did, but i could be wrong, just take it as an opinion

[gritty peak]

[hollow hull]

@analog galleon the only team that can reach max 2B dps without her died, her HP was just one hit from dying...

the total dps is just half...

[analog galleon]

ye i think it cuz parts kill problem the turret just hit so hard

[merry yacht]

Whats the rotation even

Isnt one of the turret still alive when it does the turret x3 thingy?

You break containers or shoot cores?

[hollow hull]

break 2 turrets, then just hit core

[merry yacht]

Damage?

[hollow hull]

damage? what do you mean?

[merry yacht]

Whats ur total dmg

[hollow hull]

560m

[lost delta]

606m approx

[queen grove]

mast gaming enjoyers

[echo stone]

What's your sync level? And 2B skill lv.?

Why everyone 2B DMG doesn't exceed 300m?

is it because low invest or cuz I have novel? (This one did around 800+ btw)

[jade sluice]

Prolly the best 2b comp for this raid

[echo stone]

The bug still haven't fixed?👁️👄👁️

Why I never think of this comp

[jade sluice]

Just copy the top rank players

The big point of the comp is its just so safe but 2b still has jackal to buff and protect her

Much less malding

[echo stone]

Yeah I forgot jackal exist.... the comp I'm using took me almost half an hour

[hollow hull]

what's bug?

[echo stone]

Jackal ult suppose to boost ult dmg only of the one saying "affect single target" but because 2B ult also have that 700% single target dmg too so the code might be bugged and boost both the 700% single and 2200% all

[lost delta]

227, 7/10/7

I don't have novel, mast is 4/4/4

[hollow hull]

about whitsmith, why does AoE's circle behave weirdly?

when he cast a shield

[real egret]

wdym?

[hollow hull]

nvm xD

[merry yacht]

No

Someone dealt 1.1b+

Volume Mast 2B Gui Noise

Hmm

Actually that team is too comfy

Lmao

Wait actually its good

Like very good

Nah its probably best

[merry yacht]

Its not a bug

Its intended

Well according to description

[echo stone]

But didn't it say "except additional dmg"?

The 700% part was additional wasn't it?

I wish I pulled S.helm
Skipped that one cuz she's not a top tier dps like S.Anis

[real egret]

elysion + cdr is a good enough reason for me to pull 1 copy

eventually I need to progress elysion tower for infra core 20

[onyx crest]

can you show the whole deck?

[pallid violet]

How do u approach the sw team? Had a very hard time finding a way to survive

Idk if my noise is just not built enough

[jade sluice]

This is from rank 1 player in global fyi
Im struggling the most with the sw comp, im not sure how he burst b1 to negate the damage, but there is a player that explain Noise in Raid channel, his name is Raonmiru.
Burst order : SW burst second to catch s2 buff of that other b3

[pallid violet]

yeah i figured out the sw burst timing, and I use noise to bait the flying shit and dodge them but man damage is still rough

will check out the channel

[balmy sail]

Wasn't Frima good for 2B?

[jade sluice]

On the paper, real gameplay situation no one in right mind would use her

[mortal pebble]

You can use the 2b + frima in union raid on bosses that lacked killing power. For solo raid challenge, most of the time you need survival option in your team, except when the boss is just a damage sponge (e.g. land eater)

[merry yacht]

Volume Mast

I actually doubt she has use in union raid

Maybe replacing Guillo

[fresh heron]

yeah, more reliable than Guillo. It's not fun playing Guillo and she dies with a random sneeze

[fresh heron]

thx momo, your homework kinda work for me

[remote quartz]

So how good is 2b?

[hollow hull]

Decent, worth to get and build

[raw jacinth]

Good but do not set any new records

[balmy sail]

Good, but you'd need a Mast for her to do decent damage.

[remote quartz]

i got mast and i MLB 2b and working on mlb a2 cause cause fomo

[balmy sail]

I don't have mast yet sadly

so Ruppe will have to do in the meantime

I am surprised how on the community vote thingie for 2B there was no mention of needing to have Mast for her to do decent damage

[unique obsidian]

how come noise keeps getting targeted for me?

[balmy sail]

Finally.

After so long, I am one wish closer to stop rolling on limited banner for a while.
Once I hit 200 I will either save the mileage for either a Mast or S.Anis Re-run .

[worthy cedar]

That's because Mast isn't a requirement for 2B just a good unit that synergizes well with her. Novel works better but generally there's 2 problems with using Novel with her.

1. Novel generally goes to another team over 2B because you have Mast as an option
2. You have to purposely delay 2Bs burst until you see the light bulb popping animation to have Novel's damage taken debuff apply to 2B's burst

[balmy sail]

I don't have Novel either

[worthy cedar]

RNG issue

[balmy sail]

This new form of saying "Skill Issue" sure got a chuckle out of me.

[jade sluice]

#956169657939820625 message

[real egret]

have you checked noise' skills?

[summer wren]

Lol you are now chasing omega around 🤣 😂 😅

[jade sluice]

gotta put the dude in his place

https://tenor.com/view/speed-cat-hip-gif-22084636

[summer wren]

momo more like homo

[jade sluice]

hurrdurr more like hugmyDeezenut

[echo stone]

Noise full charged shot taunt the enemy for 2 sec....

[worthy cedar]

Nah white smith just big fan of noise and trying to hit on her

[queen grove]

[timber vector]

Is it worth it to MLB 2B with 200 gold tix?

Sitting with lb2 here, I was lucky

[worthy cedar]

Are you behind the 160 wall? no then skip
Do you still have an additional 200 gold mileage for any banners afterwards? no then definitely skip
Do you not care about any of that and just want her ass? go for it I guess

[gray egret]

what is generally the best comp for 2b without mast?

[real egret]

fri-

[clear forge]

Noise novel 2B B3 liter

Something like this

Maybe

[gray egret]

I dont have noise too

I heard quency could be a sub for mast?

[balmy sail]

yes, she is your best Mast replacement till you get the funny pirate lady

[gray egret]

[gray pine]

is there consensus on best team for 2b in general?

itching if i should spend some tickets... already at MLB

[dire locust]

volume mast 2b guillo s.anis/noise

[fluid lodge]

For 2b , leveling chest and boots good enough ? Rest ol + 0

[merry yacht]

Chest head

Boots

Gloves

[distant warren]

gloves can be excluded

since it only upgrades atk/def

everything else provides HP, especially chest

[orchid wigeon]

Is it worth it for me to spend money to try to get one more dupe for 2b so her bond can go to 30

I have all her skills maxed out and a full overload set on her but I've only been able to acquire 2 copies so far and I'm running out of time

[timber vector]

Yes

Lb2 is better than lb1

Just because that lvl30 bond

But it depends from one person to another after all if it's about real money

[orchid wigeon]

I dropped $20 on that 20 summon package but I was very unlucky so I guess I'm screwed since I have no other ways to get gems on my account

[mild valley]

i shouldnt bother with 2b bodies right?

i got about 160 pulls saved up as f2p

[jade sluice]

nah she not gonna change your life

[mild valley]

k

[distant warren]

indeed. i wouldn't call it necessary

the only MLBs necessary are the first five.

cuz it literally unlocks the rest of the game.

[echo stone]

FYI, for anyone who play on pc (Idk if it's the same for mobile) and not playing with Novel. (Volume, Mast, ~~)

YOU CAN'T SPAM BURST

the crit buff from Volume will not be there for 2B I'm not sure about this but it seems like we need a half or full second for the buff to applies

[dire locust]

[viral lava]

Yep. Volume's burst has always had a small delay, just like novel but a bit shorter.

[balmy sail]

@merry yacht

So I can use 2B now?

[fluid dome]

Is it easy for other dps to steal mast’s buff to 2b? Given her low base attack? Or is the skill 2 buff taken to account?

[worthy cedar]

2B has the highest attack because of S2

[balmy sail]

Pirate Lady is putting in the work, nice

[queen grove]

summer anis gaming

[echo stone]

how does 2b do in Blanc/Noir team? since Tia and Naga seem like a good unit for A2 I think I will trade position by
Liter/Blanc/A2/Alice/Noir
V V V V V
Tia/Liter/Naga/A2/Alice

Volume/Novel/2B/Helm/Modernia
V V
Volume/Blanc/2B/Noir/Modernia

is this a good trade?

[viral lava]

A2 doesn't take advantage of core dmg buff. RL are bad at hitting core.

Most of 2B's dmg comes from burst, so putting Blanc seems kind of a waste imo. Novel has a higher multiplier and 2B doesn't care about the debuff duration as long as burst is hitting while the debuff is up.

[versed adder]

damn Jackal 2B deadge now

[clear forge]

Yeah

PvP trouble

[merry yacht]

See

Soline is intended

Fuck u

[clear forge]

its literally a fucking bug

you know it

[merry yacht]

They never fucking mention it

While it lasts

Use RedHood B1 with fucking her

[clear forge]

Im not promoting redhood soline sakura even if i was braindead

[merry yacht]

Its a fucking thing

And will be meta

[empty rock]

....Sakura teams?

[gritty peak]

dont want to see 2B owner happy

betrayal

[minor remnant]

we reset 2b for soline?

[cerulean oxide]

What would it be the best team comp for c7 2b?

[clear forge]

you probably want to use her for bossing more

volume mast 2B B3 Flex

[cerulean oxide]

Tyvm

[fallen light]

Does volume and Mast need ol?

[clear forge]

no

[cerulean oxide]

I just went for crit dmg and crit r for 2b

[clear forge]

get ele if possible

[cerulean oxide]

ains i remember i got a max roll on that twice :/

[fallen light]

Last I try 2b team, couldn't clear SI blacksmith

When my main clear easy

[balmy sail]

I pulled Noise. Wasn't she good for 2B?

[clear forge]

shes usable with her, yes

[dawn jungle]

Is the new cube BiS for 2B?

[clear forge]

Probably yes

[merry yacht]

2B is dead kind of but yes

[dire locust]

2b not dead

kisenix just too poor to core 7 here

[timber vector]

And for Pepper too since her heal based on HP

[dawn jungle]

Really? I would have assumed more reload speed would be better for more heals rather than a slightly stronger heal, at least for single target healing

[timber vector]

That is if you generous enough to give her reload cube

Regardless, it still make sense to give her the new cube

[echo stone]

iirc one of you said she will doing great at 5th burst right? (1:30)

but that was not the best burst dmg correct?

cuz at 1:20+ (5th burst) she did 4.7m dmg

but later on she did 9m

Iirc I notice this since the raid on her banner but never ask

I mean, from her description

■ Activates when using Burst Skill. Affects self.
Effect changes according to the number of activation time(s). Previous effects trigger repeatedly:

Once: Max HP ▲ 10.03% continuously.

Twice: Max HP ▲ 20.06% continuously.

Three times: Max HP ▲ 57.76% continuously

So from reading at this I thought it buff the first burst dmg with her HP up 10.03% but is it not?
it's burst first then buff HP later? so her full potential will shine at like 7th burst cycle?

[dawn jungle]

I'm not sure about buff timing but the damage difference is probably just a difference in enemy count. The AoE portion is distributed damage so the damage is evenly divided by the number of enemies

[cedar gate]

what happen to 2b tierlist in prydwen lol she is now A rank

[clear forge]

Wtf

No

[clear forge]

She's not A, there's been a mistake

Thanks for pointing it out

[cedar gate]

well she is A tier for me

no mast user sadge.

[clear forge]

Will be fixed tmrw
She's S tier

[cedar gate]

eh i thought she would be higher than S

[pallid violet]

From what they said its mostly cause she needs niche supports and also her use is a bit situational i think

Thats what kisenix said i think

[dawn jungle]

I thought that having niche supports is a plus for SR since it doesn't cannibalize other teams.

[pallid violet]

Yeah but also u gotta build those supports a bit

[merry yacht]

Yes but the other dps...

Shes good when she can tank alone

So u can run 1-1-3

[echo stone]

I think it's always like this. Remember I said I notice this since fighting a boss on the raid on her banner? that's a single target

I can't test on any boss rn so I can't say it for sure, but like 90%....

[minor remnant]

max potential for Normal attack damage after 3rd burst(her own)
max potential for burst damage after that previous burst

[echo stone]

Is the HP cube best for 2B? or is it still bastion?

having like 9.6k union point rn, was considering about should I buy it all or no?

[pallid violet]

Wait new cube is hp? How much does it give?

[dawn jungle]

4.84/7.27/9.69 I think

[pallid violet]

Lol a cube doing as much as quiry

[fresh heron]

her 2nd part (targeting highest Max HP) won't scale the HP buff immediately (still benefit from FB)

• First burst = no hp buff is translated
• 2nd burst = 1st stack of HP buff
• 3rd burst = 2nd stack of HP buff
• 4th burst = 3rd aka max stack of HP buff

[dire locust]

[sinful saffron]

Hi, What's the current best team For 2B, I have Volume and Mast in her team, but currently wondering what other units to put in there

[dire locust]

do u want to use use 2B?

is it campaign? pvp? raids?

[sinful saffron]

Yes, she's the reason I downloaded the game

Raids, PVP I think I have her team already, and in Campaing sadly high CP deficit made me change her team

[dire locust]

well she isnt guaranteed usage in raids

but if u really wanted to run her

Volume Mast 2B B3 B3

which if u need a heal wud just be helm + scarlet lol

[sinful saffron]

I thought So and added Helm lol, wondering about the last B3 tho

[dire locust]

last one would have to be a unit that doesnt need to burst to deal damage

[sinful saffron]

My "current teams" are these ones:

[dire locust]

so it wud just be scar and modernia, but modernia wants ammo support

[sinful saffron]

Yes, I have them both with bunnies and liter

[sinful saffron]

T1: Vol, Mast, 2B, Flex Flex
T2: Liter, Bunnies, Scar, Modernia
T3: SchoolGirls, Killer Wife, Red Hood, Ludmilla
T4: Doro, Marciana, Summer Anis, Privaty, Flex (Pepper Usually)
T5: B1, Crown (Future), SBS, A2, Rem

[dire locust]

why does ur t4 have 2 healers lol

[sinful saffron]

They die lol a lot, 2 healers is the only way I managed to get them to live

[dire locust]

[sinful saffron]

May be a Skill Issue ngl, but marciana healing is not enought, maybe if they're fully invested

[dire locust]

My marci is 0lb 444 and heals fine lol

[sinful saffron]

mine's 6/5/1, maybe I have to buff her burst

[iron latch]

since Nier Collab is confirmed to rerun on July 3rd, i wonder how good (or bad) 2B is today

[high gyro]

Same

[empty rock]

she's one of those team 3-5 characters, used by virtue of there not being enough fire dps
assuming you have everyone;
team 1 is rapi rei mihara
team 2 is alice
team 3 is asuka modernia
team 4 is treasure drake
team 5 you run whoever (2b/a2)
since grave is b2 you can stick her anywhere, depending usually on which team can live without b2 healing

[gritty peak]

Pls buff 2B, su

We cooked if they do nier part 2 with new 2B like eva tho

[real egret]

2B could’ve been a pvp queen if she’s not so easily countered

[iron latch]

so basically 2B (and A2) is only usable on fire raids as Team 5 option?

anyway, since i started on September 2024, i don't have any of the 2, so i'll grab one copy of each

[real egret]

this game is about opportunity cost and availability. there’s only 25 slots for a solo raid/CA, if you got nothing better, you have to make do with something worse

[iron latch]

i have pretty much every Fire DPS

[real egret]

for people with complete roster, value of A2 and 2B are not that great

[empty rock]

nier automata doesn't have a sequel though

[real egret]

who knows, they’ll make alts for no reason

combine it with summer and make summer alts, they can do anything to milk us dry

[vital loom]

So, any reason to pull for 2b or A2? Or should I just save for summer?

[iron latch]

only for Fire Raids or for collection purposes
do you have every main Fire DPS? (Red Rapi, Mihara Overspec, Asuka, Rei, Modernia, Alice and Drake)

[vital loom]

Yep

So, guess she's fully skip able then

[iron latch]

so she'll be used only on Team 5 on fire raids

[vital loom]

I actually wanted 2b cuz ,nier, but I don't think I can handle this many banners

[iron latch]

get one copy of each if you like their designs

[vital loom]

I have 80k gems and 150 tickets , I don't think I'll be enough, since I don't have any summer unit either

Unless the rerun summer units are skipable

[iron latch]

i have 11K gems and 30 tickets

[vital loom]

Ouch

Btw are Rossana and Sakura good ?

Or should I skip them too?

Summer versions I mean

Since, rerun

[iron latch]

Sakura is a Wind DPS, only usable on raids
if you have Siren, Scarlet Black Shadow, Asuka Wille, she's below these wind DPS
Rosanna is a buffer for Distributed Damage DPS, like Scarlet Black Shadow, Sakura, Bready, Quency Escape Queen

she's better then Elegg but if you have the maids she's slight worse

[vital loom]

So, not meta, but also not skipable

(at least not like x mica )

Mmm this is though

And I was planning on MLB rapipi on new year :/

[iron latch]

and don't forget we also have 3 year anniversary (most likely a double banner with Hansel and Gretel) and also the winter rerun

[vital loom]

I'll save my millage for Ani, and for winter I don't plan on MLB anyone

But yeah, I think I'll have to skip MLB rapi

And something between summer and the 2 collabs

[rare lion]

inb4 they add treasures to collab units and 2b comes back 1000th time

[grim pilot]

Rosanna buffs Sustained damage, like DoTs from Ssakura and Mihara.

[iron latch]

i thought it was Distributed damage

[fresh heron]

Rosanna buff gauge

[sharp hill]

she must pull eyyy

[spiral estuary]

A2 is better.

[paper compass]

pull or skip?

i am meta slave tho but i want her for collection

[lime steeple]

you’d only be pulling for collection purposes

[paper compass]

i see

same with A2?

[iron latch]

both 2B and A2 were really great when they came around in the 1st time back in summer 2023 (almost 2 years ago)
but powercreep kicked in and better units came in
today both 2B and A2 are mostly used on Fire-weak raids, and mostly on team 5
team 1: Red Rapi + Mihara
team 2: Asuka + Rei
team 3: Alice
team 4: Drake (treasure)
team 5: 2B + A2

[fresh heron]

even team 6

[paper compass]

i see thanks for the info

i am saving for anni

[young olive]

can i use the purple tickets for something else i dont want to pull nier

[lime steeple]

no

[fresh heron]

Because Biscuit falls

who will stop 2B now

this too

[real egret]

wdym?

2b no longer countered by def+biscuit?

[merry yacht]

[worthy cedar]

distributed damage works differently whether that's still intentional or not depends if bay fucked it up or not

gatrix is right 2B might be good for pvp again

[real egret]

i know about the bay + sbs fuck up, but i thought they fixed it afterwards

[worthy cedar]

did they do another update for the distributed damage? I only know of the fix to bay which fucked up how it interacts now

which applies to every distributed damage dealer and not just SBS

[real egret]

oh well, i'll sacrifice a rookie arena attack later to test

[worthy cedar]

pretty sure it's broken still I just remember 1 of the rookie arena opponents still uses SBS

and I still beat it but now my whole team takes some damage

instead of just noah

[real egret]

F

[fresh heron]

SBS god