A2 burst is upgraded as much as u need it
#[2B] New Unit Megathread
dire locust
gusty hull
summer wren
Dev spaghetti code nerfed 2b
merry yacht
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y23OCkIjvQ4
No healer team 
echo stone
I just realize and was thinking... when there is a bug will they give us skill reset? or only after skill adjustment?
cuz If they did on the bug. If Jackal is a bug we might get the skill reset soon 
rough spindle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y23OCkIjvQ4
But mast fits 2B better than other units, so in terms of opportunity cost it's better to slot novel with other dps team
gusty hull
yeah, and more auto-friendly
echo stone
But mast fits 2B better than other units, so in terms of opportunity cost it's b...
Does this mean that if I don't have any team that use Novel using her for 2B will be better right? (I never had a good 3rd team in any raid before... I just throw whatever I have in and goes auto most of the time 
)
rough spindle
Does this mean that if I don't have any team that use Novel using her for 2B wil...
That should be the case
You sure the other team wont use novel?
echo stone
This is my current raid team in both Union raid and solo raid. Idk what to pick for the best in 3rd team so I just throw the unit that I build around 70% and rupee in cuz she have MLB 
(the first pic modernia should be Privaty I arranged wrong 
)
tbh my core 3 Soline there are not even build anything yet lol no skill no overload. just pure lv. sync
rough spindle
you know you need 5 teams for solo raid rite?
echo stone
yeah just like I said before. for the 3rd-5th team, I just throw whatever I had cuz no other unit were built. most of them are just lv.5-5-5 and some of them even 1-1-1 cuz I reset their skills
hollow hull
Does Guillotine worth to build 
gusty hull
she does better damage than scarlet, if you know how to use her
most people find her rather clunky
echo stone
Does Guillotine worth to build <:NovelThink:1045954413694558289>
Y E S
this is core +3 btw
echo stone
I actually play this team on the last UR tho (swaped modernia out and replace with Privaty) was doing great both team (this and Alice/Modernia) deal around 430m+ the only annoying thing is that I have to retry almost half an hour until I realized that I can just replace her with Diesel and there were so little different in dmg... (Did around 5 tries) why did I never think of that
queen grove
Diesel gaming
gusty hull
Why did your diesel do more personal damage than rupee
echo stone
Idk
maybe she's hitting core just like Gui? and crit? Make it vary +/- by 5m? Idk if Rupee gun spread or just work like Gui MG.... If she's spread just like 2B then I think it might be because Diesel been hitting core all the time like Gui? Not sure tho
I'll check her skill tmr it's 1 am here
echo stone
I'll check her skill tmr it's 1 am here<:wahahaha:1008472874513870882>
Rupee is 4-5-6 MLB no overload, 3 Manufacturer gear. head piece at lv.5 the rest not leveled (ammo cube at lv.4)
Diesel is 5-5-5 core 2 no overload no cube
Diesel's hitting core unlike rupee, could be vary from crit to since everyone else dmg in the team are not the same
Also the boss is Termite B so idk if she being a wind code Nikke have any advantage against that...
real egret
maybe element weakness
I forgot what element thermite is
but without OL, it's just 10%
oh yeah, thermite is iron, weak to wind
echo stone
hollow hull
SI Grave 
jade sluice
Imagine players who just gets to SI and see all these 2B
Gotta add Scarlet is the actual one clearing the circles cuz other 4 are like a bag she carries on her back
hollow hull
does fake MaxHP absorb more dmg than normal HP
jade sluice
Ditto that comp ๐ bring back the potato aim memory
jade sluice
s2 get to lv 8, and body gears get one more level, SI grave xD
Ok ok now run without scar
merry yacht
s2 get to lv 8, and body gears get one more level, SI grave xD
Volume Mast 2B Scar X might have a higher cap
Rapunzel or Noise.
You can also use Frima.
Use Frima's burst for first THREE bursts.
Then swap to Volume.
Her HP, level 5:
- 150% with Mast first burst, crit rate of 33%, crit damage of 110%.
- 157.75% with Mast 2nd burst, crit rate of 20%, crit damage of 110%.
- 163% with Mast 3rd burst
- 208% with 4th+.
Mathematically, using Noise before 4th burst for me boosts damage by around 20%. But Volume increases crit rate by 24% and allows my 2B to crit more. That 24% translates to around 110~120% crit rate damage = also 25% more damage. There is a chance that the Rapu variant is better, due to permanent 6% MAX HP at level 5, small heals, a revive. You can use Volume burst all the time.
dire locust
volume burst will be higher dmg overall
jsut cuz it benefits ur 2nd b3 dps
apparently the math also shows that 2b averages around the same or a bit more with volume burst in 3 min vs noise bursting every 40 sec
hollow hull
Her HP, level 5:
- 150% with Mast first burst, crit rate of 33%, crit damage of ...
does fake MaxHP absorb more dmg than normal HP? or it functions just like normal HP?
merry yacht
apparently the math also shows that 2b averages around the same or a bit more wi...
Need to test with Noise burst for first 3, then Volume all the way.
merry yacht
does fake MaxHP absorb more dmg than normal HP? or it functions just like normal...
Fake MAX HP doesnt do anything other than raising cap.
But it also raises 2B's damage (based on cap).
And triggers Gui's 2nd skill (based on currHP/maxHP).
There is one particular no heal variant that I like.
dire locust
Need to test with Noise burst for first 3, then Volume all the way.
already been mathed out
lol
merry yacht
Tested out or mathed out
merry yacht
I don't trust maths unfortunately
dire locust
merry yacht
But damage should be similar
dire locust
r u not on maincord
merry yacht
Yes I am
But I never talk
Because we know for sure that math is prone to human error
Noise first 3 burst looks more promising due to fewer RNGs to achieve the same damage
This is assuming 2B level 5, Mast 5 with fewer investments
But the other dps will have less damage yes
So to offset just use Rapunzel
dire locust
hollow hull
Fake MAX HP doesnt do anything other than raising cap.
So Frima/Mast/2B/Scar/SHelm
Should i replace SHelm with Volume?
dire locust
merry yacht
<:BlancStare:1121783303922532403>
I just realized.
dire locust
i hope its a good realization
merry yacht
Noise and Frima and SMary all increase Mast's Max HP
dire locust
im tired of ing
merry yacht
Which increases her buff too
dire locust
yes
and it double dips for 2b
noise as an example, b1 goes off buffs mast and 2b final max hp, and then mast b2 goes off using that, buffing 2b a bit harder
is that what u r getting at?
minor remnant
sure? Mast buff from her maxhp not final maxhp
dire locust
i see it different
from ppl
if someone can test
that wud b helpful
but actually yeah i think its base max hp
not final max hp
gusty hull
@clear forge looking at ass everyday is said to increase your iq
onyx crest
Why scarlet and ass are best partners? Doesn't she need privaty?
teamwide dps difference
opal gorge
Single target and multi then
gusty hull
If you're using scarlet and ASS without priv it's better to just use guillotine with ASS and leave privaty and scarlet to other teams
onyx crest
last raid the highest scoring team was bunnies scar mod
the second highest scoring team was volume/mast/scar/sanis/guillo
top 3 teams
no priv in any
raw abyss
Alice stans in shambles
hollow hull
Liter/Blanc/Alice/Scarlet/Noir
merry yacht
Why scarlet and ass are best partners? Doesn't she need privaty?
Scarlet and Ass aren't best partners without Privaty.
People run Scarlet and Ass together because it's the best that they've got (other slots taken).
Scarlet is more flexible.
She herself has ATK buffs and can fit many teams.
fading mirage
Not having mast is a pain 
max core 2b wasted. Mast rerun when 
jade sluice
Not having mast is a pain <:pain:1009044093315330111> max core 2b wasted. Mast r...
put her on cope list, swiping for weekly pull packs, start praying 
onyx crest
i had liter on the cope list since account creation and only got her earlier this week
now i need mast and go down this path all over again
lost delta
Not having mast is a pain <:pain:1009044093315330111> max core 2b wasted. Mast r...
I got mast in her banner with 10 pulls
lost delta
fresh heron
I love it when you give everyone 300% ammo and 40% atk, except A2 on Chatterbox (3+ parts)
The best dps is Modernia
the 2nd best? Guillotine aka mini Modernia
if she could keep her god damn hp in check
merry yacht
the 2nd best? Guillotine aka mini Modernia
Wow forgot that Alice can pierce
Alice easily outdps Modernia against bosses with pierce
Ur Modernia considers core hits too
What about bosses with no cores?
molten ferry
should i keep pushing to limit breaking 2b ? because I haven't gotten ANY dupes whenever i summon
raw jacinth
should i keep pushing to limit breaking 2b ? because I haven't gotten ANY dupes ...
Dupes are only for whales
And hoarders
molten ferry
so should i try dupe it or nah
raw jacinth
so should i try dupe it or nah
Are you a whale? Or hoarder?
molten ferry
i just started playing , what does that mean ๐ญ
raw jacinth
i just started playing , what does that mean ๐ญ
That means you aren't a hoarder. are you going to be dropping some serious $$$ in this game?
split pagodaBOT
molten ferry
That means you aren't a hoarder. are you going to be dropping some serious $$$ i...
no im going full f2p
molten ferry
i really dont know , i just want to know if i should try and limit break 2b or just dont
raw jacinth
Don't limit break for f2p
molten ferry
so i just keep her as she is?
thank god
thought i had to no life the game for a few limit breaks
mortal pebble
If youโre f2p and have no intention to spend $$, never try to go for dupes for limit break unless you know what you are doing
Looking at the roadmap of possible future banners, we will have anniversary 6 weeks after this event ends, which mean (hopefully) 3 standard nikke banner before they drop the anniversary banner (likely to be pilgrim)
raw jacinth
And getting 3 copies with avg luck is alot. No way you can grind the game for that
You will need like 150 or so pulls
molten ferry
And getting 3 copies with avg luck is alot. No way you can grind the game for th...
2b will still be broken like everyone is saying, WITHOUT the limit breaks, right?
jade sluice
If u compare your 0lb to a c7, ok significant difference, but if u just want up to 2lb, ok not that much, gears and sync compensate, rather have more nikke to work with
winter arrow
2b will still be broken like everyone is saying, WITHOUT the limit breaks, right...
I did hear that having only 1 copy is good enough for 2B
mortal pebble
I mean, more limit break = more hp = more attack
raw jacinth
2b will still be broken like everyone is saying, WITHOUT the limit breaks, right...
More limitbreak is more stats so always good. But not required for her to function
mortal pebble
But if the question is, โis 2B functional at LB0?โ I think thats a yes
Not broken like scarlet/modernia
But functional
raw jacinth
One day they will release universal limit break
jade sluice
Need to look at the based hp+ gears, then those limit break doesnt look that huge if u want extra 1-2 limits
worthy cedar
Every nikke should be functional at LB0 if not SU what da fuk
people asking that question are just listening to whales theorycrafting
raw jacinth
people asking that question are just listening to whales theorycrafting
Nah ppl are from genshin where limit break is transformative
Some unit gain new roles just from limitbreak
worthy cedar
even worse because that's probably their only gacha game experience and it's probably the worst example too
Ah yes Core+7 2B required because then she starts shooting titty lasers and without that she does 0 DPS
raw jacinth
~~Ah yes Core+7 2B required because then she starts shooting titty lasers and wi...
She might as well, everyone going to be looking at her ass anyways
verbal copper
onyx crest
does the character deal dps? top tier
is the character support? bottom tier
mid tiers for characters who give buffs based on their own stats
liter lb0 probably just as good as core 7 for raids only real difference is cp for campaign
rough spindle
core 7 liter useful to show those randoms who's the top dealing dps in coordinated matches
compact olive
2b will still be broken like everyone is saying, WITHOUT the limit breaks, right...
Who told you she's broken tho? She's good but not Scarlet tier, plus she needs specific units to function
Not to mention she needs to be in long fights to stack up her HP
hollow hull
Blanc is God, so we don't talk about her
real egret
it depends
on how much of 2b's damage is tied to her burst
if it's a lot and we're talking about 2b in a vacuum, novel would be the best because only highest multiplier matters.
but blanc buffs your whole team better because it's 10s duration and doesn't need stacking up.
empty rock
it's already been stated here in a video, but if you want 2b's burst to be boosted by novel you need to wait a bit before casting 2b's burst
so not auto friendly
tender bluff
So what is the skill prio for 2B?. I'm seeing different numbers.
jade sluice
So what is the skill prio for 2B?. I'm seeing different numbers.
Prioritize s2 to lv10, s1 and burst level up together but since u level up s2, s1 can wait
I keep mine at 7/10/10
tender bluff
ok
molten ferry
Who told you she's broken tho? <:kekw:1009394634692247632> She's good but not S...
basically everyone
raw jacinth
basically everyone
I haven't heard this at all. Ppl call 2b "mini-scarlet"
Mini doesn't imply better
molten ferry
i mostly just see it on youtube tbh, i just started playing anyway so it might be a mistake
arctic sluice
I haven't heard this at all. Ppl call 2b "mini-scarlet"
i didn't hear mini-scarlet
i heard "powercrept scarlet"
some people were definitely exaggerating
raw jacinth
i didn't hear mini-scarlet
Under purpose
arctic sluice
some people were going ham
plush loom
what's the current PREMIERE 2B team rn?
versed adder
Nah people in beginning were definitely saying she's Scarlett creep
Then play testing happened, expectations reduced,
New raid will inflate 2B and A2 performance again
arctic sluice
yea
honestly first couple days of character being released, if they're even remotely good
just gotta ignore it i guess
fading mirage
My only complain is they both fire. There are enough good fire ele boss killer already
raw jacinth
Nah people in beginning were definitely saying she's Scarlett creep
Beginning as in before actual release? Ya I remember that. Everyone forgot that 2b need to burst 3 time for maximum effect
versed adder
Beginning as in before actual release? Ya I remember that. Everyone forgot that ...
Before and a little after
Once gameplay came in damage was lower than expected, and real content where she shines isn't really available to test easily
The Tests sky did only came out a little later and even his were kinda restricted because CP gap on campaign
dire locust
just know everytime a unit releases
itll be exagerrated both ways
too good or too bad
versed adder
Tbh I imagine they'll perform well there
dire locust
why sacrfiice my account progress, let other people test
raw jacinth
Still holding off on mileage for a2
dire locust
yea same thing with s. anis
very skewed cuz of the ele dmg on burst + sr electric weak
versed adder
The raid is legit made for them kek
dire locust
when actually tested agianst variety of non electric weak boss, yes she is still good, but not SSS tier
versed adder
So I wouldn't even take that as a accurate test
dire locust
well u can prob take this raid for 2B then take out 10%
thats prob p accurate
to account for ele dmg
a2 is a bit more difficult since parts with high HP fluctuate depending on shiftup's feelings
versed adder
heh then consider all the damage she's doing to blacksmith projectiles
dire locust
apparently doesnt hit projectiles
versed adder
Her S2 does no?
raw jacinth
The raid is legit made for them kek
Of course it was. Remember genshin and how they crafted abyss to make whatever rateup char shine?
versed adder
Burst I'm aware
versed adder
Since it's like Dorothy
arctic sluice
that really messed up a lot of people 
versed adder
Of course it was. Remember genshin and how they crafted abyss to make whatever r...
Classic Hoyo same nonsense with HSR
Players fall for it 3 year's later
lost delta
And my 2b isn't overloaded
lost delta
what if you use liter instead
I know but I was testing
onyx crest
alright if you need then you need
lost delta
mast burst doesnt heal
But with her burst lvl 10 maybe I'll reach to destroy chatterbox turrets faster
That's the reason
fallen light
Is 2B done cooking?
raw jacinth
Is 2B done cooking?
Never
eternal portal
x\
rich tangle
def worth shooting for a 2LB
Over A2 0LB?
rich tangle
but if u can only get one copy each get one copy each
Fair enough. I'll start pulling
Took five pulls but I got them both
fresh heron
skill triggers every 300 shot
low modifier
I don't know, imagine 2B at the very first, was a MG
merry yacht
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clear forge
Ok coach no more
dire locust
minor remnant
<:pepeangry:766660892531490828>
update ultimate A2 sheet 
fresh heron
can't
I need to build B2 buffers
then non burst buffers first
this is something you can expect to see with new version
choose a bunch of setting yourself, then see dmg gains
btw 3.8% Volume 10/10/10
๐ฎ
dire locust
fresh heron
sadly not
if I assume all skills deal 0 dmg
then it's done
except skills don't right?
dire locust
fresh heron
that's what I did with the chart
fresh heron
btw it's not about skill level
but skill interaction
let's say mod for example
her S1 gives her 3% atk per ammo right?
if only it triggers core hit
nope, so I have to exclude its core hit dmg
dire locust
echo stone
Noise can boost dmg in the first 3 burst right? after that she's not necessary anymore? If I want more dps can I just run Volume/b2/2B/another 2 dps?
According to this
Or was he saying that to compare noise and rupanzel? I'm not fluent in English so I might misunderstood this...
echo stone
crit rate by 24%?
idk it's from Kisenix...
echo stone
Mathematically, using Noise before 4th burst for me boosts damage by around 20%....
here
onyx crest
alright let's see
yeah team wide it should easily be better because volume will do more for your second b3 also
i wonder if sanis team gets in trouble next raid though
echo stone
why?
onyx crest
if you want to use dorothy sanis priv and there's no burst 2 saving you
what is sanis's whole team going to be
also needs fire
real egret
Sin and Modernia 
echo stone
Co-op today ๐ช
those 2 scarlet have 2k power over me, sadly they died at around 1:50+
this is because elemental advantage and Abnormal buff on the co-op right? or she was originally stronger than Scarlet since the start in the right condition?
(On my Overload I have 40%+ Element line)
queen grove
real egret
running scarlet without healers and then wonder how they die early
versed geyser
How important is team to making 2B serviceable in content where youโre unlikely to get more than 1-2 bursts off?
true gorge
How important is team to making 2B serviceable in content where youโre unlikely ...
Very like extremely
If compared to other ingame units ofcourse
onyx crest
there is no content where you only get 1 burst off unless you are dominating it
or dying to it lol
versed geyser
there is no content where you only get 1 burst off unless you are dominating it
1-2 specific to 2B because hers is 40sec cd
The only content I can think of where both my team and the boss would live long enough for max stacks is raid and itโs kinda boring to not be able to at least use her outside of that
onyx crest
you can just play her in a liter/bunnies team if you want for campaign and will still do better than the majority of b3 dps
even there she should be able to burst 3x unless you already completed the stage
real egret
for raid purposes
you don't need to level up volume s1 at all
since she's not gaining stacks
and even so she's just there to support
burst imo is priority so mast has easier time keeping her s1 stacks
echo stone
I didn't, I thought I did but rn I'm at 1-5-5 (I'm gonna use novel btw.... )
since I have 1-1-2 at mast but 1-1-5 at Novel. I wanna use as less material as posible since I have to build A2 too T_T
but Volume burst still important 1st priority even with Novel right?
if so should I go up to 1-5-7? or this is fine?
real egret
well Novel is better
leave Volume be for now
Mast can also go up a bit to 4-1-4
Novel can go 4-1-7
echo stone
Thanks 
real egret
Novel can also go 1-1-7
s1 is not important, it's a bit of a def shred, but I can get it to 4 with just 1 day of sim room, so meh
gaunt tapir
this solo raid is going to suck for me, without Novel or Mast
only Quency
she's still "good" for 2B
merry yacht
Using Novel instead of Mast in this team is a bit... expensive.
echo stone
Using Novel instead of Mast in this team is a bit... expensive.
I don't have any better team to use her. my 2 other team b2 was already have their own unit reserved
compact olive
Using Novel instead of Mast in this team is a bit... expensive.
Expensive? Novel is the only b2 I can pair with 2b since I don't have Mast or Quency
merry yacht
Shooting range, wow
Frima believer
Apparently there is an advantage to using Frima here
Tbf
Opens up a slot for the other team
Because i think next raid Volume Diesel will be needed
Which opens up a FIRE buffer slot
Cus while Volume is better
Its sometimes that freeing is needed
Using Volume gives Scarlet the same fucking boost as using Dolla.
Frima variant had the worst damage somehow, due to bad Frima investments.
This clearly shows MaxB1 + Dolla is as good as Volume.
"It depends on your other teams." - Kisenix, 2023
If your other team wants Dolla, use Volume. If your other team wants Volume, use Dolla.
Frima and Dolla variant is the best alternative.
Look at that Frima 1/1/1.
Almost same time clear as SMary with no investment AT ALL.
Look at Scarlet damage too.
Higher than Volume variant.
That just proves that Volume is shit.
Volume might have an advantage if you keep bald critting.
hollow hull
Frima believer
Scarlet at max everything, 2B is 80% on her way, too bad my Mast doesn't have Body manu gear...
hmm, so between Dolla and SHelm, who should i use for 2B comp
Unless crit formula get changed, Volume is always stay under tbh
latent hinge
I've debating using noise or rapunzel, I use volume as a decent secondary dps source
hollow hull
I have no noise
latent hinge
Rip
hollow hull
Frima and Dolla variant is the best alternative.
so between Dolla and SHelm, who should i use for 2B comp
dire locust
empty rock
so between Dolla and SHelm, who should i use for 2B comp <:NovelThink:1045954413...
you can manual dolla for burst gen
if you too lazy to do that, then run shelm
echo stone
Can anyone define the word "low spender"? I never bought anything other than monthly gems (has stopped for 3 month and just continued a week ago )
I'm having around 53k gems and 950+ gold ticket btw, so I was thinking should I MLB her
(This was about 2 week ago)
real egret
less than $100 a month on average
I'd say small spender
$100 a month can get you around 50-60 pulls on special banner
clear forge
Can anyone define the word "low spender"? I never bought anything other than mon...
My definition is less than or withing the range of 150-200 USD a month
Cuz otherwise you're spending way way too much
They basically get double the pulls of f2p, so that's why I suggest a bit more for low spend if the character is good
main maple
echo stone
$100 a month can get you around 50-60 pulls on special banner
I never paid any game over 10$ per month 
so ig my condition is the same as the guy above me
should we mlb her?
hollow hull
I'd say small spender
monthly card user: micro spender
summer wren
I'm having around 53k gems and 950+ gold ticket btw, so I was thinking should I ...
So you buy the 15 dollar 10 ticket pack too i presume
With each new event
echo stone
So you buy the 15 dollar 10 ticket pack too i presume
nope, never bought anything other than monthly gems...
It started because I wanted to pull the paid banner. I bought it up to 5 month and then realize that it's not really worth it that much for the price just for 10 rolls then I stop it for 2-3 month? with the paid gems at 1650 but seeing it being at 1650 make the greed take over me and make me paid for another 2 months about a week ago
Was planning to buy the campaign package tho (in emergency situation that I ran out of gems and ticket )
summer wren
Hmmm it gives 1.5k gems iirc
summer wren
It gives tics and gems
echo stone
I'm still a student, studying so I don't have any income rn 15$ was just a bit too much for me at the moment
summer wren
Oh nvm this one 20 dollar for 15 tickets +1.5k gem
merry yacht
Oh nvm this one 20 dollar for 15 tickets +1.5k gem
Wait what
Thats better than Nier pass
20 tickets
Vs 10
- molds
real egret
15 tickets + 1500 gems is just 20 tickets
trail jackal
merry yacht
queen grove
queen grove
frima gaming
merry yacht
frima gaming
Lmao
But against solo raid
I doubt her heals are enough
Let me test again later
Also we dk yet if tentacle still has QTE and must only be hit by Fire
Because if we read the Twitter post
Cus her heal is just 36% of MAX HP, and 2B MAX HP is like...
177%
20% only heals her by 10%
We will see later
This will save me a slot for Guillo team
jade sluice
Turret hit specific nikke ?
merry yacht
Turret hit specific nikke ?
Highest atk
merry yacht
160 resident friendly or not that comp? <@308926283482398720>
Ure not 160
Tbh just use Volume Mast
So can Noise
Wait no
Use Rapu
Save Noise for Gui teams
jade sluice
Ure not 160
Im asking so when i have chance it can help the residents
Cuz 2B damage to parts is pepega
And the only thing redeem is her highest attack to turrets
But take away your scar u prolly get slammed
merry yacht
But take away your scar u prolly get slammed
Volume Mast 2B Scar Rapu
jade sluice
Volume Mast 2B Scar Rapu
How stacked is the scar here
merry yacht
Miranda Dolla SAnis Gui Noise
vocal vigil
merry yacht
I feel like doro scar priv VS mast 2B synergy
Just shows how much Scar's damage is reliant on cores
But 2B doesnt care
2B FUCKS EVERYTHING
vocal vigil
My Scarlet is LB2 while 2B is MLB
merry yacht
@clear forge yeah, no, after boss tier rework, Im bumping 2B to SSS
Her damage isnt reliant on cores
Too consistent
Fuck that shes consistent everywhere
merry yacht
got this run just a minute ago
Just look at the damage difference
jade sluice
My dorothy can topple 2b on train anyday
jade sluice
She even offer part damage
merry yacht
got this run just a minute ago
What are the OLs
jade sluice
2b gun too shiet to even match dorothy
merry yacht
I have 1 crit rate, 3 ammo lines, 2 elementals, 1 attack
Shes gonna fuck blacksmith
Trust
100%
Her damage will explode
But I dont have burst manuals
Skill manuals too
merry yacht
She even offer part damage
Bro
2B's damage isnt reliant on anything
She only wants one FUCKING SUPPORT
Actually 2
Volume and Mast
But
jade sluice
Ok so bad as standalone
jade sluice
Dorothy gigachad by herself
merry yacht
Wait
lost delta
merry yacht
Are u aware that
lost delta
merry yacht
The 2439% part of 2B isnt given 1.5x full burst bonus?
lost delta
My volume is to weak
vocal vigil
What are the OLs
I can't remember the exact values but
Dorothy: ~40% attack, little bit of crit and misc rolls
2B: ~33% attack, 29% ele damage, 1x Max ammo, misc might have 1-2 crit rolls? idk
Scarlet: 2x Attack, 1x Ele damage, 3x Max ammo and some random shit. Dont remember values at all
clear forge
<@390152688605593603> yeah, no, after boss tier rework, Im bumping 2B to SSS
Bro just wait for raid 
jade sluice
Ok gimme a train team has have both dorothy and 2b
merry yacht
Doro goes to my Mod team
Doro Novel Max Helm Mod in raid
From what Ive learned in train
YOU OUTHEAL THE FUCKING GUNS
And im gonna do it again
merry yacht
I can't remember the exact values but
Dorothy: ~40% attack, little bit of crit a...
Why does 2B have 33% attack wtf
jade sluice
My man is like wallstreetbet ape just hit the dub on his first play
merry yacht
Those are actually good rolls lol
vocal vigil
Why does 2B have 33% attack wtf
Ask the RNG gods
vocal vigil
I'm not spending 30 modules on a single unit, would if I could
vocal vigil
I kept tried to reroll them but didn't get anything better so might as well keep them
merry yacht
So your 2B pretty much gains an equivalent of 200k HP from those fucking attack rolls
vocal vigil
I'd want ele damage and crit but
merry yacht
Ok u know what
vocal vigil
the reroll system sucks ass
vocal vigil
just gotta settle with what you get
dire locust
merry yacht
That's 2B's damage every rotation.
Basic attack only
Against enemies with core
Wait
Forgot damage distance
Ignoring crit
(60ร20ร2.8)+(60ร12ร2.3)
Wait
Wrong
2B's basic attack damage against enemy with core, damage distance, and full burst (every 32s, 6s delay in between):
(5.99ร12ร20ร2.8)+(5.99ร12
ร12ร2.3)
Around 6000%, more or less.
Her burst is 2439 + 732 * 1.5 = around 4900.
Her basic attack constitutes MOST of her damage.
Sjaykin missed this but I already told him that.
So, yeah 10900% damage overall.
So me getting max ammo lines basically increase the DPS of 2B by 5%.
No, just get crit tbh.
My 2B has an uptime of 96%.
Most non-ammo 2Bs have an uptime of 88%.
merry yacht
Investment diff
merry yacht
Skill 2 at level 10?
gaunt tapir
but but but but
merry yacht
Well unlucky
merry yacht
Skill reset soon maybe
gaunt tapir
I want to skills modules to be like the cool kidz
merry yacht
2B 7/10/7 is enough
Each level of burst increases her damage against core boss by 2.76%.
A2 increases by 2%.
gaunt tapir
no way i'm going to have enough skills to invest for all these units by next Thursday on solo raid
should at least give us unlimited skill resets on these events cause holy moly I can't have enough
merry yacht
Basic attack against core with damage distance = around 5300% at maximum uptime
Burst = around 3600%
Basic attack against no core, no damage distance = 2650%
This is her damage list.
jade sluice
minor remnant
Fuck that shes consistent everywhere
2b has some weakness that is her normal attack is not high, might have trouble if QTE is thick, must destroy parts fast.
hollow hull
Interestingly, Dolla buffs both 2B and Scarlet to have higher DPS compared to SHelm, but Scarlet gets the most benefit from Dolla a lot.
So for 2B comp, if against eletric enemies, use SHelm.
Other than that, use Dolla.
merry yacht
2b has some weakness that is her normal attack is not high, might have trouble i...
It's high
Not as high as others
But it's 60% of her damage
fluid lodge
so since a2 was easier to invest in than I expected , what are good skill levels for a2 and in what order
real egret
5/7/7
fluid lodge
that low too ? wow
real egret
of course if you can afford to go 7/10/10 go for it
ofc higher is better
for these collab units
real egret
because crit OL lines are shit?
it's only like what, 7% max crit chance and 7% max crit damage?
fresh heron
this is B1 volume, B2 Blanc btw
man I don't want to make a table for Frima
just roll with Volume then
actually Miranda buffs her more but solo
echo stone
If I'm using Novel with 2B
And currently both ult lv are still not 10
Novel is 5
2B is 8
Which one should I focus at the moment?
Novel?
echo stone
so up Novel first then? cuz I'm lacking skill material so hard
fresh heron
novel first
clear forge
https://dotgg.gg/nikke/guides/nikke-skill-level-scaling
Wow this is interesting
Good link
How long has this been out there
arctic sluice
How long has this been out there
almost forever
jade sluice
guys, snake never read guide
clear forge
guys, snake never read guide
I am the walking guide
clear forge
who's the best dps this time if you can put perfect OL max possible team on her
Mod, right?
No pierce exists, ele buffs, core hits??
No way anyone reaching her
fresh heron
real egret
alice if you have really good burst rotation
fresh heron
A2
but she barely passes Mod
soon, I will try finishing Anis, Maxwell and Snow Tmr
forget Scar
working on her formula
first 5 matters
clear forge
wait, is this with no parts?
This on BS
real egret
........
was about to say, if this is against a boss with no parts, I'll mlb a2 straight away
clear forge
It's for upcoming solo raid
vocal vigil
So that's with ideal conditions and perfect rolls?
clear forge
So that's with ideal conditions and perfect rolls?
Uhh either check out prydwen guide or nikke.gg guide
I know prydwen tells the ideal rolls
Idk about nikke.gg
Guide = 2b review
vocal vigil
No I was referring to the sheet above
2B being that low feels weird
I mean to be honest, I suck at math and I haven't even touched it.
vocal vigil
Everything I know about 2B's performance is based on my own experiments and it all leads towards her being top tier
I guess
I'm just patiently waiting for SR/UR so I can actually get in 3minute fights
ember chasm
Idk about nikke.gg
You fucking know I always put OL prio in my guides
You stupid prydwen man
fresh heron
will have to verify my formula first
also what does N102 give her?
probably as much as Pepper
merry yacht
2b being low makes sense, her auto attacks is kinda crap
Not crap
Sjaykin pls stop saying auto attack is crap
Its legit still over half of her damage
In case ure wondering, his formula for 2B was wrong
ember chasm
Hey now
I just said it was low
What the world interprets after that
Is not my issue
merry yacht
What the world interprets after that
Here is what they read "Her basic attack is useless."
50% isnt low tho
Well lower than most
Actually
Lower than all
All right u win
merry yacht
2B doesnt scale well with OL
And Gatrix made it unfair
He put 4 charge damage, 4 attack, and 4 fucking elementals on A2
merry yacht
ember chasm
Realistic testing les go
ember chasm
Crit rate and crit damage cope
merry yacht
Its worse
ember chasm
merry yacht
Idk
merry yacht
Apparently
Her base attack is
20% of her total attack
And in Half of the fight
It's more
ember chasm
I'm assuming
This is
Solo 2b?
merry yacht
At base, her base attack is 33.33%.
ember chasm
ember chasm
merry yacht
But I think that damage is team-based, not solo.
And you are aware, right, Sjaykin?
That even Scarlet benefits less from Volume Mast vs Frima Mast Dolla?
Volume is a joke.
dire locust
sgay
merry yacht
CDR slave.
merry yacht
At least I can cope with my 45% critical rate 2B.
273 ammo 2B.
I can't reroll the ammo lines.
Because....
They have elementals.
There is one with Atk and Ammo.
That one I haven't decided.
But atk stonks in pvp
clear forge
You fucking know I always put OL prio in my guides
Gonna need proof for that, I don't open reviews
clear forge
Check it
Nerd
Stealing my words
I have like 3 words, give it back
fresh heron
damn instead of finding bug you go there and slander me
also you still can't prove my meth is wrong though lmao, but I will look into formula later. Dunno why ATK OL gives her more than crit dmg/crit rate OL
merry yacht
damn instead of finding bug you go there and slander me
I will
Always
I didnt slander
You said it urself
U forgot some things
Wtf
ember chasm
Stealing my words
I have like 3 words, give it back
I don't hear this from a dude who says
"Jbtw"
Also, I have said it first
merry yacht
From existence
clear forge
From dictionary
Ok nerd
ember chasm
I have like 4 more but
Stupid nerd
clear forge
Stupid nerd
Sharing other servers now
clear forge
Gonna claim ownership for coining it
amber current
what would a good 2b team be for solo raid?
amber current
what about other b3 units?
fresh heron
actually there are 2 ways to play
- Let 2B tank the tentacle, then heal her. Whitesmith should deal very small dmg to 2B
- Use a fire B3
Volume Mast Guillo Emma 2B for example
echo stone
I'm testing Mast and Novel while Novel skill is 1-1-5 and Mast is 1-1-2, they both does the same damage range (+/- not more than 5m-7m) on Modernia and 2B. why is it being like that?
Is it because to trigger Novel skill she need 40s (3rd burst) to collect 5 stack for her debuff to activate?
while Mast doesn't need to do so and she also give crit rate for the first 30s and Modernia have self crit dmg buff? (she also have 10% crit rate and 18% crit dmg on overload) Is my assumtion correct?
echo stone
Thanks
fresh heron
2b at peak this time should deal as much dmg as Snow White
with 116% elemental dmg bonus lmao
echo stone
wdym 116%?
fresh heron
max 4 OL lines elemental dmg
the only thing she scales so well with
elemental dmg
then crit rate/crit dmg
btw the best combo for crit is crit rate lines = crit dmg lines
If your slots are odd number, then crit rate line > crit dmg line by 1
For example
2 crit chance - 2 crit dmg is better than 4 crit chance, or 4 crit dmg
2 crit chance - 1 crit dmg is better than 3 crit chance, or 1 crit chance 2 crit dmg, or 3 crit dmg
this is actually can be tested with Math quick. Let's say you have 15% crit chance, 150% crit dmg. Average dmg increases is
15% x (150%-1)
now you have 7.07% crit chance per line, or 20.36% crit dmg per line. You can add up to 4 lines doesn't matter crit chance or crit dmg. Find the best combination
it's 2x crit chance + 2x crit dmg
echo stone
fresh heron
btw Austin
you were right
back then when I said SW skill dmg takes about 60% of her total dmg
it was without buff
when I throw a bunch of buff in
summer wren
When it says rapture will atk the highest atk nikke, is it their final atk after buff in the battle or before battle?
echo stone
after ig. people here said it will attack 2B isn't it?
summer wren
I hope
fresh heron
after
summer wren
Then why taunt exists
fresh heron
I felt it with my fking skin
summer wren
fresh heron
last SR with the train
the first round it attacked my Laplace
but next round it was Power
summer wren
I felt it with my fking skin
Which part j
fresh heron
to be fair
may be we can build a team for 2B like Jackal 2B healer B2 and 1 random B3 dps
nah don't
unless you really want to save your ๐ฎ Volume for someone else
hollow hull
So Dolla > SHelm > Volume?
merry yacht
So Dolla > SHelm > Volume?
Cant say
hollow hull
Meh, no reason to raise Volume
fresh heron
for who?
Helm da mvp on electric boss, dog shit everywhere except CDR
Dolla is mid
Volume is mvp on 2B, dog shit everywhere
hollow hull
Helm da mvp on electric boss, dog shit everywhere except CDR
Dolla is mid
Volume...
I use Dolla with 2B on any content, SHelm on eletric boss
Dolla can generate burst faster due to spam click
fresh heron
based on the json, if I understand it right
we generate double on boss
don't think you need to burst that hard, since cd exists anyway
hollow hull
against boss that like to move around or have long transition phase, you can spam atk on Dolla to generate burst faster
hollow hull
xD
merry yacht
against boss that like to move around or have long transition phase, you can spa...
You are absolutely right
Thats why Max Helm Mod was meta
Spam click both Max and Helm
If both are at 0 at the start of full burst
They will be max ammo at the end
hollow hull
well, i simp for Dolla, i have her skin as well xD
and her buff can well, fit any attacker basically.
hollow hull
hopefully A2 won't flop against Solo Raid boss