#theorycrafting

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soft tendon
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lae sig ake thinkingsns

lime glacier
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Who and when is next banner?

fringe thicket
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Which one should be the Next M3?

soft tendon
lime glacier
soft tendon
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Then itll be the joint banner until version update

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Have to wait until they do the version preview

lime glacier
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Hm k im just waiting for a character i rly like to release then ill reroll and play lol

summer narwhal
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this one belong to anyone?

rough inlet
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Scrap it

ocean turret
cold hedge
river river
half perch
summer narwhal
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I had downloaded a picture that I used for reference, but I didn't see it there

daring dove
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Give it to Chen so she can wack the enemies to death with normals after doing her ult, it won’t be very good but it’s something you can do. Klee_Derp

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Version 1.3 news when sadcat

main nova
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her normal rotation will always net you 9 stack 🤔 you probably did wrong rotation?

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ofcourse if the enemies is too weak it can become abit awkward to stack

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perlica is kinda strong, she will almost likely kill weak enemies before u even press fangyi bs to get more stack

bronze sluice
distant python
bronze sluice
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I mean when my 3rd rotation for the last 3 stacks came up. The first 3 stacks were already expired. idk how

outer ermine
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surely today GilbSleep ill grind on my usual time ig

drifting quest
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Sunderblades last 36s at p0, CSkill cdr is 18s at m2 or below so it is possible if not optimised rotation wise to not hit 9 blades

river river
outer ermine
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31

dusk isle
edgy elk
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seconds? PerliStare

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in Nef?

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Did u just beat arts rossi PerliWheeze

outer ermine
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wut

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oh

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idk why that typed here, thats me spamming 31 on alluv

dusk isle
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i was wondering why you typed the funny number

edgy elk
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I got baited

outer ermine
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i can feel the run coming w this shit

dusk isle
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Ffs the noise is still there ICANT

outer ermine
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oh

dusk isle
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Im deafened

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Gg

outer ermine
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PerliFumo now u go god mode w losing a sense

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fucking pmc

daring dove
outer ermine
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i got robbed again 28 roccs

outer ermine
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@edgy elk does alesh get locked out of doing ult after bs

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or this game is fucking w me

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i literaslly timed my cat cs perfectly andf this mf still made me miss ult

edgy elk
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maybe ult cd?

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20s

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u might be hitting it

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if u alesh ult in phase1

outer ermine
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wheres the cd on this

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maybe just white leeme see

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do we have -ult cd

edgy elk
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nope

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they added this shit to screw speedrunners ICANT

outer ermine
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high 36 then

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ig it works out okay

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still syncs w end cs

edgy elk
outer ermine
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got a 37 earlier but didnt save it 💀

edgy elk
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what would it have been if not for ult cd?

outer ermine
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low 36, endmin is holding us back

edgy elk
outer ermine
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GilbSleep this can all be solved if i can replicate the no kb

edgy elk
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ahh no kb?

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u mean phase 1 wave?

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cant u alesh ult iframe it

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then u start the ult cd early too

outer ermine
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its slow

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u still wait for the wave, double jump theres a case where alesh doesnt jump so hes ult is available

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and u can ult on the grunt (before ring)

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the no kb runs up too but i spam and ult as soon as im in range

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but theres nothing i can do after that if i dont iframe w wtv the fuck happened w that clip

edgy elk
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ah... ChenCry

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no kb = nef doesn't get knocked back?

outer ermine
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cant estella cs in time even if i run away, can tank the wave but cat is way too far for cs

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ICANT me running away was actually the idea that triggered back movement and accidentally iframed

edgy elk
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wait running away can iframe the wave...huh?

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i dont keep up with sr tech enough 💀

outer ermine
edgy elk
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oh-

outer ermine
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llemme grab it

edgy elk
outer ermine
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its random

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wait

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here
ive never gotten 3 of them being free tho

edgy elk
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so now it's
critfish
fishfish
jumpfish
ICANTsns

outer ermine
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i dont fish for it fuck that i cant even crit

edgy elk
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WOAH what was that

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did u skip the wave with bs

outer ermine
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iirc i tried to fs, turn to wave, and both

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both couldnt replciate

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its a second faster than all my other starts

edgy elk
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PerliDerp idk

outer ermine
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PerliChaos 50 bucks bounty for the mf that can replicate it then grind my run too tymuch

edgy elk
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im trying rn PerliWheeze

outer ermine
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i have an unhinged idea of what might be causing it but there is no way ICANT

edgy elk
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what, alesh bs?

outer ermine
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LOLL

edgy elk
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whuh did it work?

outer ermine
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only tried once so far and ye

edgy elk
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IT WORKED????

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how tf

outer ermine
edgy elk
outer ermine
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i might gatekeep lemme get it a few times if i can

edgy elk
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im not getting it GilSob

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mobile issued?? im clawing the move and skill buttons rn

outer ermine
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hold on im breaking it down, already getting it

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jsut gotta narrow it down to 1 more

edgy elk
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oh is it rossi+alesh bs???

outer ermine
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very helpful i cant see shit

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its fs

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im washed i cant time it now, looking back prob has nothing to do w it but i cant

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nvm

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just randomly got it

edgy elk
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i havent even gotten it once GilSob

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what's the seq

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alesh ult -> turn around -> estella fs +alesh+rossi bs?

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also iirc rossi runs pretty fast, is there a reason u dont co rossi, swap estella, etc?
-# or maybe i've just been misinfo'd

outer ermine
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manage to break it down and yea its just fs

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i should prob not alesh ult

outer ermine
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she has fs dash which is fast but 💀

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my timing is mentally attached to alesh ult ICANTsns

edgy elk
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when do u press basic? right when wave hits u?

outer ermine
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passes u

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same as ult iframes from before

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record and ill tell u if its late or early

dusk isle
outer ermine
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ICANT swaps, ults, batk

edgy crater
outer ermine
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theres levels to this shit ICANT mfs that cant pass all three will be kicked

edgy elk
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what's lv1 💀

dusk isle
edgy elk
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ults or swaps

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basic gotta be lv3

dusk isle
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Im shit at iframing the wave with swaps

outer ermine
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ult is prob easier

dusk isle
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Cuz the hitbox being behind the visual always fucks me up

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Ults is the easiest imo as well

edgy elk
outer ermine
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ICANTsns if im gonna incorporate this i cant just hold rmb anymore

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still in sequence tho, 34click

dusk isle
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How many femtoseconds does this trick save

outer ermine
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way too early

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.134 too early

edgy elk
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ok

outer ermine
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1s save, earlier everything

dusk isle
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An actual time save holy

outer ermine
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saves phase 2 ICANT not fucked by alesh ult cd, end cs cd

dusk isle
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Uh ye i saw the clip you sent before

outer ermine
dusk isle
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Alesh ult too late, couldnt do cs>ult

outer ermine
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ba'd here

edgy elk
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does it work with just ba

outer ermine
edgy elk
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or do u have to alesh ult or smth

outer ermine
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should just be ba

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im too conditioned w alesh ult rn so i cant get it w/o

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holy

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firsdt time

dusk isle
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I havent run that shit in days

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Will get some runs in after friday

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No fucking way im incorporating that trick in my run tho ICANT

outer ermine
dusk isle
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My lazy ass would alr be satisfied with a 40s run

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Someone else can get the sub 40s lr glory

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They probably already have gotten a sub40s lr anyway

edgy elk
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tf

outer ermine
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ult skill swap ba PerliWheeze

outer ermine
dusk isle
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Bruh if im able to get possible 38s-39s runs theres no way all p5p5 hasnt gotten that yet

outer ermine
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they burnt out af from rhod ICANT

dusk isle
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Im harvesting ginseng everyday

outer ermine
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everyone died at midair fs PerliWheeze

edgy elk
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is this still too early

dusk isle
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Once i get home ill do hundres of runs ICANT

edgy elk
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or too late

outer ermine
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also

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PerliChaosles go rations on last day

edgy elk
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still got kb

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i'll try again a few times

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lowkey watch it be my latency

outer ermine
edgy elk
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I DID IT

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HOLY SHIT

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now i just gotta do it with someone who isn't estella ICANT

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cus i aint ever using stella in my teams

outer ermine
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ICANTsns its a sign to try shatter

edgy elk
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OG shatter ICANT

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no rossi

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is bs iframe easier than fs

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i did bs iframe 3 times in a row but fs 0 times

frozen tide
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Without rossi

edgy elk
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surely endmin/yvonne ICANT

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yeah nawh bs iframe is def easier than fs

outer ermine
edgy elk
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ult < bs < fs

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I DID FS TOO

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hifu wont kick me anymore 😭

dusk isle
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My ass is getting kicked

edgy elk
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you've alr met ur quota with 39s LR
it's my lazy ahh on the chopping board PerliChaos

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someone fill this shit out for me i dont wanna

outer ermine
outer ermine
edgy elk
edgy elk
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gold mine ystd, found icons ArdeHappy

outer ermine
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why roll dice when u can roll crit

dusk isle
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Dont make a difference im shit at both PerliWheeze

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Cant get a crit nor a high roll

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My dice would split in half if i was rolling for my life ICANT

dusk isle
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pulling archives of nethys is insane

edgy elk
dusk isle
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the dude was an npc that surrendered at low hp as well, oh well no sidequest ICANT

edgy elk
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why tf did u choose to main LR then

dusk isle
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she chose me

edgy elk
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aiya love is painful eh

dusk isle
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hell na im just autistic and like watching numbers go up

edgy elk
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go yvonne and mald for 100% critrate on jakub

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you'll see a bunch of "crit" text but still be short on damage

dusk isle
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s.ln ffs change your support unit from lv1 blaze alter ICANT

edgy elk
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oh i left it there for whatsit, uh, stronghold protocol

outer ermine
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eh 2/5

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needs rations

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so alesh doesnt need to carry shit 💀

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estellas feet being the visual cue is not so bad

dusk isle
dry kindle
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🗿

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I think we should start throwing bricks through peoples windows

edgy crater
frigid vector
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wait

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the basic attack moves her forward enough

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that it has the wave whiff?

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Kek is that it

inland quarry
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What's the max xaihi int with p0 deto?

edgy elk
edgy elk
frigid vector
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I wonder if it works on basics with no movement

edgy elk
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fs can do it too
maybe it's based on movement? dunno

frigid vector
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e.g. yvonne

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yeah, that's the theory I got right now

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the character moves faster than the hit detection polls

edgy elk
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omw to test PerliWheeze

frigid vector
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so it potentially causes a skip

edgy elk
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yvonne bs works, testing fs now

upper dome
edgy elk
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xai's healing scales off will

upper dome
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forgot name cav something

edgy elk
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chivalric virtues int is 703

upper dome
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so chiv or deto better since the stats diff to small on int side

edgy elk
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as always it depends ICANT

deto is good when

  • dmg taken isn't diluted
  • u can actually proc it (i.e., not most of yvonne's speed rotations)
  • atk is diluted
  • uptime lines up (i.e., arts burst early in the rot)
  • don't sleep on the minor int bump, it's small but it's still a minmax
  • single target: debuff loses value against AoE due to limited coverage / enemies dying

chiv

  • less int statstick
  • easier trigger
  • atk% might be less diluted in some comps than dmg taken (e.g., when perly's there)
  • multi target: buff carries over in AoE fights after enemies die
upper dome
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guess better specify whats better for lastrite setup she got no atk gear since her gear elemental?

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and tnx for all the info

edgy crater
edgy elk
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39% atk from khrav
her 3-stack cs req triggers deto easy as long as u do xai cs
lr usually does deto

upper dome
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tnx guess i switch deto

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uwu bye perlica you should go staraz for now

edgy elk
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wait why "bye perlica"?
i hope u werent running deto on perly
perlica runs stanza in LR's comp

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oh this is perly/gil no tangtang ic

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give perly monai then, gil stanza

upper dome
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nah she was in avy early

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using deto

edgy elk
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ofc if u have deliv, deliv gil

upper dome
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monai? guess need to build new drone

edgy elk
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"delivery exists so perlica can run stanza"

edgy elk
upper dome
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but we need to min max every op damage rn since cc coming

edgy elk
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is the dumbed-down version^
ofc you'd build whatever you need, like uge

upper dome
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wait so i run stanza since my gil got delivery?

edgy elk
edgy elk
upper dome
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tnx

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sigh i. ha ing ptsd atk in cc need to preprare more ops im not feeling safe with ls avy surt sigh

edgy elk
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timing's most lenient on ult, tightest on fs

frigid vector
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damn

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even just the standard BA?

edgy elk
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mhm

frigid vector
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that's kinda nuts

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she shouldn't really move during that attack whatsoever

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I wonder what's causing it then Hmm

edgy elk
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i'll try to rec some samples

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i was spam testing earlier

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forgive skill issue, im like half a hifumi

frigid vector
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just pulling it off that often on a new character

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skill enough

mint helm
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did dps pogranichnik ever became a consideration with the new set pieces on frontier? FubukiSip

edgy elk
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idk if it matters but they also take reduced damage (like non-controlled ops) when the iframe works.
might be related?

pallid shell
edgy elk
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noooo i refuse to watch the powercreep leek GilbSleep

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fire btw

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(i watched the powercreep leek)

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oh ofc u trimmed fluo's ulti

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nicenice

pallid shell
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leek ❌
snek ✅
-# fluorite S tier

edgy elk
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PerliWaaaaa if she ever gets honorary cryo im gnna have to build her

dry kindle
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The world if fluorite didn't have a 40s cd

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Bleh I still haven't done new area

merry kite
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The world if we could date fluorite

dry kindle
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🗿

edgy elk
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uh, dunno if this is common knowledge but i just tested that corro likely ramps in intervals of 1s

so far just tested via random sampling, yvonne ba seq1 after arde cs explosion
maxed p5 yvonne, armorless, lv1 howling guard

  • right after corro: 255
  • next interval up: 257
    corro 3.6% calcs = ~255
    corro 4.44% (1s) calcs = ~257

might be proven wrong later

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update: repeated with p0 artzy lv90 essenceless for higher fidelity data (bc 255->257 is so minimal PerliWheeze )

  • right after corro: 735
  • next interval: 741
    matches with 3.6% (0s) and 4.44% (1s)
upper dome
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btw avy build got updated right using the med kit main stats up? since gloves allows you to complete the set?

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or still double skill up better?

edgy elk
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no clue i only know cryo GilFly
poach an avy main in #team-build

echo cove
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Btw does anyone know how AI work on corro?

Like does it increase the cap of the corro for each lvl, or does it only increase the value each time it ramps while keeping the max capped value the same?

dry kindle
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Cap

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And therefore ramp speed technically

neon cave
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so it should look like this

edgy crater
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206 ai?

dusk isle
edgy crater
neon cave
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oops it should bee 209

dusk isle
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idek

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close enough

neon cave
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there we go

merry kite
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When 1.3

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I want 1.3

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I want to pull

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I want to gamble

outer ermine
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lr mf needs to test bs during ba chain tho

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should work w just bs alone but during ba PerliStareYou

cinder oxide
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New food gonna go crazy for boss killing

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Costs meat though

upper dome
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problem with meat it so rare

outer ermine
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PerliFumo just kill dogs

frozen tide
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^

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If you do the farm route every time they respawn you get a lot

main nova
sterile moat
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wow its crazy how smooth rotations are with p5 gil on rossi tt comp

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you can just use qb perlica too

edgy crater
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so PerliFumo

outer ermine
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GilbSleep should have done this a long ass time ago ngl

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GilbSleep cursed meat

ionic hemlock
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in which region can i get supression is it just hub and Org science park?

edgy elk
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fat dogs 💀 my dogs are starved and skinny they drop nuthin

outer ermine
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over 2 hrs PerliWheeze im meat cursing

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i just farm 4 spots

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less than a min

edgy elk
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same but me lazy GilbSleep

swift onyx
outer ermine
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PerliFumo should be 528 meat per day if i do this for 12hrs

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everyday

edgy elk
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set an alarm every 30 mins ICANT

outer ermine
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back to riic days

edgy elk
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appreciating ur whel board rn

outer ermine
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fake

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i dont have laev

edgy elk
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🧢

outer ermine
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how r u sending and removing imgs bruh

edgy elk
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?

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i just delete the image

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skill issue

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pilot discord better

glad veldt
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so..... what is the best use case for this?

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this seems too powerful

edgy elk
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grinding speedruns

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or slap it on everyone if ur feeling rich & brainless

glad veldt
edgy elk
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80% refund on first ult, 40% refund on 2nd ult

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per operator

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how many ults are u using 1kb

glad veldt
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yeah exactly who is the best use case for that power

edgy elk
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high ult cost operators

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ones that hold the rot back with their ult charge

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ones that can't easily regen ult without outside help

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would vary between rotations based on who ur fighting and what time ur tryna get

outer ermine
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bro has 0

edgy elk
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stockpiling for my next run sesh GilFly

honest onyx
glad veldt
edgy elk
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holy brick GilSob
transformation ults consume stew meeting / RI ration once but don't give UE back

game must register "0 ult" before it realizes it's a transformation and u cant legally gain UE til it ends 💀

edgy elk
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wait laev's fine

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laev didn't consume it

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but yvonne did

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oh wait laev did now

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1kb this is inconsistent wtf

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ok nvm they're consistently consuming it now

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mandatory food waste

sterile moat
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Wow they display your fastest umbral clear in skport now

edgy elk
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whuh fr

sterile moat
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Lmao this record lel

edgy elk
next helm
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How does this even work

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A mass amount of Uge?

lyric rain
outer ermine
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love how u can tell which ones the mobs

edgy elk
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they double proofed for ENcantread

outer ermine
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aint no one pressing that

edgy elk
tame tapir
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Is this the appropriate channel to discuss potential future content?

drifting quest
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disallowed in the server or speculative with the latter not being all that useful

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datamines are allowed but content not meant for this patch (which we have no way of knowing what is and isnt) is disallowed

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so most people who have access to datamines dont tend to discuss them here anymore

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leaks are disallowed in all channels and there hasn't been a credible endfield leak anyway so pointless to look at let alone discuss

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if it's speculative stuff then it's allowed but gray area so do at your own risk, not much to discuss tc wise

cold hedge
tame tapir
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I dread leaks. I did learn how dangerous they can be the hard way too.

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I wanted to mention ideas I had for future fight designs. But if that's not allowed, I understand.

drifting quest
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should be fine, would probably be more appropriate for general channels like #endfield #infra-station but it's adjacent enough that you might find people to discuss it with here. most people use this channel as a pseudo offtopic channel too anyway so no one would complain

edgy elk
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#speedruncrafting

tame tapir
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You know what? It's probably not worth it. I want to have a serious discussion in a server that's already more than half dedicated to memes.

drifting quest
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a common trend

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not enough mods for the server size

tame tapir
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Yeah. That's just the internet for ya.

edgy elk
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@echo cove
help me figure this out. why is Gil so close to ult?

hypotheses:

  1. does ult% food scale with uge? (Gil's on xiranite + cartridge + stanza)
  2. does slugpudding give everyone 8% of their own ult or 8% of the consumer's ult as energy?

omw to waste more food test

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ok, conclusion:
ult tacticals give each operator n% x [their own ult cost] x [their own uge]
-# i feel like i just wasted time proving common knowledge again GilbSleep

drifting quest
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quite

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part of what made stew meeting so broken was things like uge laev being basically at ult with 2 procs

edgy elk
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oh so it was common knowledge 🗿
i should've asked

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so how about trigger order? four operators on slugpudding, no uge for anyone, does it trigger 8 times total or 7 times?

drifting quest
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the new 40% one is one proc to ult for units with high uge

drifting quest
edgy elk
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but slugpudding gives to others

drifting quest
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yes but it goes off their own energy

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as long as they're under 50% they'll proc it and give everyone 8%

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you can use it to give the last chunk of energy to an ally over 50%

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by using ult on an ally holding slugpudding

frozen tide
edgy elk
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that's why it matters whether proc order is simultaneous or not
if it's simultaneous then you can get 64% ult back
if not simultaneous then, you can only get 56% ult back
from 4 operators holding slugpudding

drifting quest
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its individual

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let me try write up an example

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uh

edgy elk
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i'll just test it GilFly

echo cove
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oh it scale with uge too?

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never noticed that

frozen tide
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Idk where i got 1.43 from but

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With enough uge

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Does every consumption of the food

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Give ult?

edgy elk
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yeah 64% ult if 4 ops holding slugpudding

frozen tide
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Huh

drifting quest
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op 1 - 200% uge
op 2 - 150% uge
op 3 & 4 - 100% uge

load into stage, all operators at 0 energy, all operators eat slugpudding

op 1 = (8x4)x2 = 64% ult
op 2 = (8x4)x1.5 = 48% ult
op 3&4 = (8x4) = 32% ult

the cooldowns expire at the same time, all 4 check. As only 3 are under 50% only those 3 will eat now

op 1 = (8x3)x2 = 48% (+64%) = gets ult
op 2 = (8x3)x1.5 = 36% (+48%) = 84% ult
op 3&4 = (8x3) = 24% (+32%) = 56% ult

if for example op4 for some reason had 7% less they would then eat a third

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your uge is likely not high enough on any unit to place them above that 50% threshold on the first one

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so they all eat 2

edgy elk
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4 ops eat 1st slugpudding: 32% ult each
4 ops eat 2nd slugpudding: 32% ult each
=64%

if it weren't simultaneous, then for the second round:
op1 checks -> eats -> +8% = 40%
op2 checks -> ... -> = 48%
op3 checks -> ... -> = 56%
op4 checks -> above 50% -> stay at 56%

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yeah i realized. cost me 8 food to realize ICANT

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they eat at the same time bc the game takes a few seconds for the uge to register

drifting quest
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if you staggered their eats somehow (ult start, casting ults one by one) then you'd see them all proc individually

edgy elk
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assuming nobody's on uge ofc

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yeah

drifting quest
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they eat at the same time because its on stage load with no ult start

edgy elk
#

hmmm i'll try staggering it but faster than the game can register the food effects

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like, insta-ult four ops

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probably still consume 2 each

drifting quest
#

things like lag or a lower performance device will affect it too

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you can probably cheese an extra proc via that

edgy elk
#

oh i forgot yvonne's ult is stupid 💀

frozen tide
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Self inflicted cc

edgy elk
#

no i mean, it auto consumes an ult food before the game realized she can't legally gain ult during her uptime

frozen tide
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If theres an attack coming you either dodge and get next ult 40 secs later

edgy elk
#

so mandatory 1 food wasted

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same with laev and fangyi

frozen tide
#

Or you hope ult hyperarmor lets you tank it

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And hope the damage is manageable

edgy elk
#

what did yvonne do to u ChenCry
u just burst and they're dead. fk damage taken

edgy elk
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sorry, i had to, i was short on ginseng

frozen tide
#

They should fix this at some point

drifting quest
#

i dont remember it happening before

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maybe i just never noticed

edgy elk
#

idk about fangyi (don't have) but i tested with yvonne and laev earlier

drifting quest
#

now that we have RISR I can burn a couple stew meetings to test

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i havent used stew meeting in ages anyway

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later at least

frozen tide
#

I feel like food is a thing almost all players have surplus of with hardly any usage

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But then the 14 speedkillers are always short on everything

edgy elk
#

tell that to hifumi

edgy elk
frozen tide
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Yes but I can't tell you where he is

edgy elk
drifting quest
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huh

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looks like it eats it during animation time

edgy elk
#

mhm

drifting quest
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the energy gain block goes into effect before the state change

edgy elk
#

yeah

drifting quest
#

its been months since i did stew meeting stuff so maybe it always ate for laev too

edgy elk
#

it drains ult energy at the start of ult, consumes, then the transformation applies, yada yada.. is my guess

drifting quest
#

throw it in game feedback i guess

edgy elk
#

it's only for transformation ults tho. other duration-based ults (arde's) are fine

edgy elk
frozen tide
edgy elk
#

after reloading protocol spaces
ults come back but stamina doesn't

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nef speedrunner hard counter

frozen tide
#

Oh ic

scenic bluff
#

Are Rhodes Island Combat Rations the Stew meeting power creep

edgy elk
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yes

dusk isle
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if you have infinite amber rice, yes

edgy elk
#

though it may be overkill

scenic bluff
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i made 64 rations

dusk isle
#

I could only get like 15 attempts with that many ICANT

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If i were using them

scenic bluff
#

tbh with Zhuang Fangyi i definitely dont need to use much since she destroys everything with her team

dusk isle
#

Zfy cant even use them afaik

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In umbral no food
In recrisis you alr start with full ult(and she wastes them during transformation)

scenic bluff
#

gilberta ult spam it is

dusk isle
#

That works

edgy elk
#

remember 20s ult cd

scenic bluff
dusk isle
#

That is indeed a team

distant python
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is chivalric worth buying for xaihi?

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what teams would xaihi want to use chivalric over detonation unit?

edgy elk
#

the ubersimplified version is, LR uses deto, Yvonne uses chiv

distant python
#

noted, i use both teams so maybe i just buy it

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my only concern is maybe not having enough for mifu sig or something later

drifting quest
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do damage all at once > deto
do damage over larger period > chiv

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no nuance version

distant python
#

chivalric acquired

drifting quest
#

the difference between them is basically nothing anyway

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and to see any 'relevant' difference it requires superhuman play shit anyway

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and then said difference is like

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5%

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lol

distant python
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welp

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-2480 arsenal credits then

drifting quest
#

good if you want to be lazy

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deto on someone else

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chiv on xaihi

distant python
#

many options for perlica i guess

drifting quest
#

monaihe gets used sometimes too

distant python
#

i have not levelled my stanza for my last rite team yet

drifting quest
#

even if never really optimal

edgy elk
#

purple x/x/3 does it

distant python
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homeless perlica i guess

tough roost
#

deto ww and stanza can be left at e0 20

edgy elk
#

e0 lv1 PerlicaFumo

tough roost
#

its only 10k

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perlica gave you 30k

distant python
#

okay ill just borrow my ardelia essence for wild wandered then

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i dont have a 3 infliction purple

#

this is the general leek build yes?

frozen tide
#

Yeah

daring dove
#

Is the 23rd update info coming a little earlier than normal?

#

Not that I'm complaining that's a good thing, I just remember it's usually not 2 weeks prior to the update?

half perch
#

well the update its the 5th*

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iirc

idle eagle
#

should i get gilb p1 or laev p1

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got the permit so just need to choose..

outer ermine
#

ok nah im not iframe fishing for this shit

lost raft
edgy crater
#

hmm sksport can showing u umbral timer?

outer ermine
#

ya

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none of my visual cue is working for phase 2 PerliWheeze

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have to look at ingame timer when i alesh ult ICANT then time it on 2nd phase

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i hate this mf

outer ermine
#

3555555555

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@edgy elk PerliChaos @dusk isle im fucking free

dusk isle
#

35s ?

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Crazy

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Congrats

outer ermine
#

w/o iframe ye

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just fished for the jump

#

burned through 70 fucking rations

dusk isle
#

Holy how much rice do you have

outer ermine
#

ICANT now 0

dusk isle
outer ermine
#

still have 43 rations left tho

dusk isle
#

I have abt 600 ginseng plants saved up, gonna farm the crits this weekend

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Hopefully i get my 39s as well

outer ermine
#

i split my plots 12/8 ICANT need rice more

dusk isle
#

LR cant benefit from uge food PerliSmile

outer ermine
#

PerliChaos doable go go

dusk isle
#

Huge lr upscale

outer ermine
#

oh ye lucky

dusk isle
#

Disadvantage makes her better ICANT

outer ermine
#

oneshot on first phase is good too 1f

fossil helm
#

what does the damage of Crush depend on?

#

da pan is tagged as a striker, and endmin as a guard; would either one's crush be stronger than the other's?

heady pine
edgy crater
#

vuln stack n ai

#

pysical dmg bonus count too

fossil helm
#

im super bored with meta teams so i decided building my own team brick by brick with Fun Units whose mechanics align

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the times are insanely slow and its really bad

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  • snowshine is controlled and builds infliction with parries, because parries are fun
  • rossi turns the inflictions into vuln
  • pog turns the vuln into breach, and has awesome soldiers that are fun
  • ???

i feel like it's missing

  • helping rossi's ult
  • actually using the breach
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so maybe pog should be a crusher instead to just eat the vuln directly without having to process it further, and then 4th can buff rossi's ult

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but maybe the breach is good for pog himself, for his ult

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo use rossi shatter

edgy elk
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gg

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Here’s 12 clue7s to help u celebrate

dusk isle
#

Oh hifu is euna ?

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Add me too

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I have 18 c7s

outer ermine
#

又一把洛茜碎冰隊的逆天成績。
由於釣魚佬大招CD和管理員連攜CD的限制,正常手段已經基本不可能再往上提了,算是差不多摸到上限。

不過其實還有一種辦法,雖然有點過於陰間。
第三波其實有很多種卡無敵幀的方法,而這隊剛好能利用這個機制,第一階段直...

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edgy crater
edgy elk
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Extinguished sins spook PerliStareYou

outer ermine
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ICANT always get my runs around 4pm

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im doomed at work i have 2hr sleep PerliWheeze

edgy elk
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Go slep PerliBonkEndmin

edgy crater
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chugg more coffee PerliFumo

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no need sleep

outer ermine
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GilbSleep ill sleep there

edgy elk
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AKEF ur real full time job, that thing just a part time EndminYes

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo tru

edgy elk
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Oi hifu check ur clues received

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Night GilbSleep

elder kelp
rugged shard
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or in any game lets be honest

sacred thicket
icy remnant
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I think I sunk several hundred hours into Arknights and I haven’t even finished all the IS or even touched RA ☠️

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Endfield definitely has almost no content in comparison though

edgy crater
icy remnant
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Well I haven’t even touched IS3/4 yet too

edgy crater
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fuck is4

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be lucky on is3 PerliWheeze

icy remnant
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IS5 I haven’t cleared all the endings either
Just farmed the crap out of lamp for some rewards

drifting quest
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Ra3 is like an entire new gamemode

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compared to ra1 and 2

stuck harness
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[Copied from endfield chat]
yo guys am I missing something about gilberta P0 vs ardelia P1 or is ardelia P1 legitimately just better for boosting damage aside from needing to spend 1 SP every 30s and rossi teams?

Cause gilberta P0 with 1 vulnerability stack gives 33% arts vulnerability for 5s whereas ardelia P1 gives 28% arts vulnerability for 30s.

outer ermine
sterile moat
outer ermine
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in an hour ICANT still working

edgy crater
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no need sleep trolllaugh

drifting quest
# stuck harness [Copied from endfield chat] yo guys am I missing something about gilberta P0 vs ...

A lot of nuance to it:
Ease of application in AoE
SP cost to get the buff (this is the main one)
How easy it is to proc (in Ardelia's case, where some rots have to delay in order to proc ardelia combo)
Buff Uptime
Higher Vuln values for Gilb for more Ult buff
Whether or not you actually use that longer duration of Ardelia
What else the units provide to the team, rotation, etc. (AI/corrosion, talents, lift/stagger, healing, etc.)
Plus a bunch of stuff I didn't think of off the top of my head

stuck harness
edgy elk
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gil cs = free vuln. if u trigger gil cs (say, gil+perly), rossi bs can get clawmark without spending 100 more SP for that initial vuln stack

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speedrunning perk ICANT

outer ermine
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ghost ping

sacred thicket
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Its just me yapping in chinese

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I pinged u

outer ermine
sacred thicket
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what i said was, dont overwork urself

outer ermine
edgy elk
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yeah, game more!

dusk isle
#

hifumilover25

outer ermine
sacred thicket
#

wait r u streaming?

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or just watching stream

edgy elk
outer ermine
#

watching

edgy crater
edgy elk
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🗨️PerliStare👉 ‼️PerliStareYou👉 💩(essence)

outer ermine
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i need more towers for this site ICANT

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12c7 rookie numbers sin

edgy elk
#

aiya i have to save some for ithrene

dusk isle
outer ermine
#

id

dusk isle
#

6307259977

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Ign: Serkan

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Ill have it ready when i will be grinding nef

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Will bless you for good crit luck

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Also

dusk isle
edgy crater
sacred thicket
#

u guys r ill

dusk isle
edgy crater
dusk isle
#

Fund my c7

outer ermine
#

+0.1%cr for every c7

sacred thicket
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now i'll have to wait crit gear for LR

frozen tide
sacred thicket
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i aint going to critfish with 5% crit rate on umbral

edgy crater
sacred thicket
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too much effort for smth that prolly wont work nanobroreal

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since i didnt really do the calculation

edgy crater
outer ermine
#

PerliChaos finished daily 1min b4 reset

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new record ICANT

edgy elk
#

the real speedrun

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nef was just practice for this moment

dusk isle
#

Im leaking sanity rn PerliSmile

outer ermine
daring dove
#

Anyone else started to store their sanity ready for the next essence farm for 1.3 Klee_Derp

dusk isle
#

Im alr 10/10 i cant store more ICANT

inland barn
daring dove
outer ermine
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DaPanEat i need to recycle blue and purple essence, almost at 2k limit

edgy elk
#

b..b..blue???

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bro hasn’t clicked recycle button since game started 😭

outer ermine
#

nah this prob gonna be my 2nd or 3rd time

dusk isle
outer ermine
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blue prob when i lower world lvl to farm

edgy elk
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oh u do that?

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What’s the benefit?

outer ermine
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every other day ye

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faster on alluv

edgy elk
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oh so just HP

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ic

outer ermine
#

timer doesnt reset w server reset so gotta do it every other day GilbSleep

edgy elk
#

petition for double fillet drop rate this survey PerliFumo

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and higher turret cap

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo i need more plot land

edgy elk
#

heavy xiranite + burdomuck trust

gritty briar
#

cc when?

dusk isle
edgy elk
#

no ICANT I dreamed it up

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I’d sacc heavy xira for triple drop rate tho

neat snow
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Right now I'm just burning it on credits lmao. They need to bump those up imo it's so little

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But I have almost 10m credits

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I stopped buying sanity refills for the moment

daring dove
#

That said I only have 6 characters left to build (all of them bad) so I'll likely reduce my refreshing soon as well.

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Money wise I only have 1 million, but I'm currently just saving to build whoever releases next so I'll have enough by the time they drop.

neat snow
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I stopped everyone at 80 and just haven't bothered to go to 90 yet but I think I've got the resources for it. I also have like 20k whale coins to use

daring dove
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Yeah I took 20 characters to 90 so far with 9/9/9 rank skills on them all (ones I use can have masteries). That said I don't save my resources at all. I figured I'd just max out everyone minus masteries of course since those aren't an unlimited resource.

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Then I'd say resources after everyone is maxed.

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I think by the end of 1.3 I can have every character 90 maxed out if I want.

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But then it means spending less sanity on essences so I'm trying to balance things.

neat snow
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I actually went crazy on essences and I have 2k golds for fodder lol

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I got 3/3 for every 6 star and all usable 5 stars

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I'm also pulling on standard weapon banners now 😂 I just need to p5 lifeng and ember weapons and I'll have all ops and weapons p5 minus endmin herself and the BP weapons

daring dove
#

Very nice yeah I don't have anything saved like you. But that's the way I like to play it in games like these. I have always worked on the mentality that saved resources are wasted resources. So I literally only save in advance of a new character releasing. Then go broke once they're built all over again. As for P5'ing everyone's weapon I'm playing the longer game on that one. I want my 6* off-banner pulls to mean something. So if I just max them all straight away 50-50 losses will feel worse. 108_yaehmm

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I am building Lifeng's weapon as well it's currently P2, but only when I lose 50-50's.

neat snow
#

I agree on the resources. I need to use mine I've just been lazy. Also yeah I feel that. Idk I just mostly bored with nothing else to buy. 😂 It's definitely smarter to wait for dupe coins

#

This long ass patch got me fiending

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I have 150k orbs waiting for next banner

daring dove
#

Yeah, I just bunked down this patch an just started building a ton of chracters, got my PHY team mostly built.

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Just in case we get a PHY operator in 1.3

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I hated the idea of the 49 day patch when it was announced with 1 characters. But in terms of allowing me to build characters without worrying about saving for upcoming ones.

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It was a blessing as it basically just allowed me over a month to spend sanity on whatever I wanted.

neat snow
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Yeah for sure. Saved us some money too lol

peak root
#

Hmm why is everyone broke fr fr I’m so serious like just spend a couple thousand everyday and you’ll get everything

peak root
#

arclight MAIN DPS CO

outer ermine
#

pink mfs talk smh

inland quarry
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Did that tool get updated to be accurate yet?

peak root
#

no

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but it is acurate enough so i dont really care

main nova
lyric rain
peak root
outer ermine
#

PerliFumo now do it

cold bane
#

îs chivalric virtues worth picking up from the shop?

edgy elk
#

pros and cons
depends on how much arsenals are worth to u & ur wallet

edgy elk
#

oh so you already have one?

cold bane
#

yeah

edgy elk
#

lower priority then, because 2480 is also another 10-pull on a sig banner

cold bane
#

so far the only thing i bought from the weekly shop was copies of stanza

edgy elk
#

power gap from p0 -> p1 chiv is...minimal, but it's there
if there's truly nothing else you want / expect to want, it's your choice to buy it
else, it'll be safer to save

drifting quest
#

weapon pots that aren't 'free' are pretty terrible roi

crystal flicker
#

Chivalry is really good against multiple enemies and waves

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While detonation prefer single target and 1 or not much waves

edgy elk
#

they already have p0 chivalric virtues though

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so we're talking moreso the value of one weapon potential

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which is.. not that valuable

crystal flicker
edgy elk
#

ah yes, appreciated

drifting quest
#

not even 2% attack

outer ermine
#

my dorito is so ass

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2nd phase is too ugly, endmin cant oneshot p2 by herself GilbSleep

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dont have enuf dmg for the tidal 3 interrupt strat

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GilbSleep ig im chilling till next patch

edgy elk
#

long downtime

#

you'll be set on ginseng and meat for the next round

outer ermine
#

GilbSleep todays haul

swift onyx
#

Christ

edgy elk
#

30 min alarms ICANT

sturdy hill
frozen tide
#

Hifumi owns every meat in talos

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo ill try for 700 meat today

edgy elk
#

you're the reason why LR went vegan

frozen tide
still fog
#

Hifumi just love meat

merry kite
brave cedar
elder kelp
still fog
sacred thicket
outer ermine
outer ermine
dusk isle
#

Just make the dijiang green room make produce ICANTsns

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It would finally see usage if it was able to grow plot plants

sacred thicket
#

Ppl be like: poop u damn beast

woeful timber
#

They already gave us 7 more poop this update, we get enough to fully fertilize 60 plots every 2 days, compared to every 3 days before this update. We need more plots now because if we get 6 more bumper rich a day we’ll have enough to fertilize twice daily and I just don’t have it in me to keep that up forever. I like having the day in between to reset the timer and no needing to worry about logging in at specific times.

woeful timber
#

Yea, I have shit-picking down to a science, what about it.

half perch
#

said nothing against it, no need to be defensive about it xD minmax your muck all you want o7

woeful timber
#

lol im clearly joking by calling it a science, sorry if you took that the wrong way

lyric rain
outer ermine
#

i fucked up the meat despawned

dry kindle
#

dumbahh

crystal flicker
#

Whoever is maining Cryo atm should build estelle rn

#

Just saying

frozen tide
#

Why

crystal flicker
#

To counter solidification

swift onyx
#

Can we just
Ip ban this guy

gaunt trellis
#

im deadass bro

woeful timber
#

Managed to get 1:12 on Nef with Lae. I think I can do better, but getting sub-60 feels impossible

drifting quest
#

once more I beg for moderation of the help channels

woeful timber
#

Alright 1:09 now, getting closer to 60 at least.

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo show run

modest scaffold
woeful timber
#

It probably could've been 1:06 if i didnt mess up and use Ake's ult late, but I'm running out of rations and stew meetings to keep trying.

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I'll probably try more again tomorrow, my goal is 60, I dunno if its possible but i'll try to get as close as I can.

dusk isle
#

Youre actually losing a lot of time to cs timestops, sub60 should be possible by fixing them

woeful timber
#

Oh you mean by not using them together?

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Yea thats a good idea I should save the cs's at the start of phase 2 so I can use all 3 at once and get 1 timestop instead of 3

dusk isle
#

That and using ult to remove timestop

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Cs > ult to eat the timestop with ult

#

hifu is here hell beat you better

woeful timber
#

So like Lae CS > Antal Ult to cancel Lae's timestop?

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I didnt know you could do that tbh

outer ermine
#

u can ult on laev earlier, big waste of stew rn

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maybe even ult start

woeful timber
#

Wym?

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I'm saving her ult till I have enough heat stacks to get full melting flame right away and burst during the interupt phase. If Nef goes invincible and flies around Lae's ult runs out before the next interupt.

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Whenever I've tried using her ult earlier it just runs out before i can ebs so i started stalling it

peak root
#

OKAY so ive decided after playing around that my arc mdps team will be arc antal gil perli but i dont know what gear to give perli or gil

dusk isle
#

In both phase 1 and 2
Use 2 keybinds to use multiple cs at once
And cast ult immediately with alt + number to eat the timestop from the cs

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I dont have any other vid, nor can i make a recording rn so ill use my failed nef run as an example

woeful timber
#

Yea i can see how its working in that vid, I'll try to incorporate that into my rot somehow

outer ermine
#

GilbSleep wait for my meat timer and ill login

peak root
woeful timber
#

deto is good for antal though

peak root
#

ahh true i forgot that, my deto is only p1 tho

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should i put gil on stanza then? i will be using her ult to create a 4 corro so it should help right?

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i also thought for her gear i could put her on aether

outer ermine
#

u dont wanna run wolf here btw? should be able to keep it down to cs 2 speed tiers

#

w a cs cut on on 1st one too

woeful timber
#

Nah I dont wanna run wulf lol

daring dove
#

Who would run Wulfguard willingly E_PoliwhirlConcern

peak root
#

ew pink... jk why is ur name pink?

gaunt mason
#

probably possible without wulf too since it was done before rations came out

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actually it didn't even use stew lol

swift onyx
outer ermine
#

PerliWaaaaa ake it is

swift onyx
#

I mean
Hes whale

peak root
#

then why is my name not pink?

#

ive spent too much to not have a pink name

swift onyx
#

Cuz you may be gay but youre not whale

#

So no pink for u

peak root
#

4k isnt whale?

#

wtf is whale then bruh

swift onyx
peak root
#

i dont even want to know

swift onyx
#

Wtf rich people

#

He just boosted the server

peak root
#

bruh

swift onyx
#

Buy nitro plus

daring dove
#

Guys just boost the server, pink isn’t a whale tag. A_HuTaoGun

swift onyx
#

But to get the boost u need to buy nitro
Therefore whale

peak root
#

okay im pink now

daring dove
#

An it’s purple anyway, say it with me. Pur-ple.

peak root
#

pi-nk\

#

any who here is something cursed i hope it burns your retina

outer ermine
#

also iframe the wave laev iframe is generous af, get urself a -1s

#

i can prob record ICANTsns i dont wanna raise antal for gear

outer ermine
daring dove
peak root
#

Bruh

dusk isle
#

Laevatein go nuclear

proud tiger
#

How much does etch essences matters in the dmg of a team?

golden rapids
#

thermite p0 better than p5 obj? for Arclight(Zhuang)

drifting quest
#

yes

golden rapids
drifting quest
#

better buff type

golden rapids
#

can u explain how atk is better than electric?

#

if the main is electric dmg dealer anyway

drifting quest
#

The more you stack one type of buff the more 'diluted' it becomes

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E.g. if you have 200% electric damage dealt and you can choose either 24% more electric damage dealt or 16% atk (oversimplifying the attack to be a strict multiplier, doesnt actually work like this)

Damage Dealt: 200% > 224% (2 + 0.24)

Atk: 200% > 232% (2 x 1.16)

#

more gains by dipping into a different bracket / buff type than continuing to stack the same buff type

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Fangyi has a lot of damage dealt, not as much attack

sacred thicket
dry kindle
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Remind me to never go for a 6* dupe again

edgy elk
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whel

dry kindle
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At least im at 21 pity with dossier

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Surely win the 5050 on mifu

edgy elk
outer ermine
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just win

heady merlin
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Anyone tested p5 rational farewell vs clannibal p0 what's better in dmg for wulfgard?

tough roost
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Where is the screen

outer ermine
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PerliFumo phone moment

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ag did mobile ui better PerliFumo can literally make it so u can barely see buttons

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gib me no ui actually

edgy elk
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all u need are buttons and audio cue ICANT

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screw the screen just memorize it and press

ashen smelt
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have anyone making devlog bingo?

cold bane
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I hope we get blue border girl as new 5star

outer ermine
edgy elk
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watafak

outer ermine
edgy elk
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wait how tf did u let it drop so much during afk

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black magic

outer ermine
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sgould have had more but i forgor it despawns if i dont

merry kite
edgy elk
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no but fr how?
afaik the turrets don't activate unless ur next to it

outer ermine
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PerliFumo other dc

edgy elk
elder umbra
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i use the exact same spots too

honest onyx
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no more rare forageable spots

edgy elk
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does anyone still collect rares PerliStareYou

frozen tide
outer ermine
distant python
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in v4 i just get the plants when i need them

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cba to setup proper ziplines there

teal pawn
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WE GOT A CRUSHER leak

cold bane
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so physical guard & fire vanguard

teal pawn
terse valley
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crusher for rossi #yep

distant python
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holy shit

teal pawn
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idk about for Rossi

distant python
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ember potential

teal pawn
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It's basically mDPS Lifeng

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I think

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THE VAMPIRE IS THE ROSSI TEAMMATE PerliWheeze

terse valley
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two new team member for rossi #yep

drifting berry
teal pawn
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Surtr upscale

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rip wulfgard

drifting berry
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Lamest bp looking weapons so far

sterile moat
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every new character is a rossi team mate