theorycrafting

[supple tartan]

I figured the ult damage would have replaced those

[woeful timber]

Wrong main attribute, and basic attack contributes to Yvonne’s ult dmg

Her ult is technically a transformation ult like Lae and Zhuang’s, it just only transforms 1 basic attack chain instead of multiple.

[supple tartan]

Good to know.

[edgy elk]

Where’s ur shatter 48s

[outer ermine]

boss is brainded id rather nef 38

[edgy elk]

I’ll have to give it a try tomorrow

wasting 3 cryo for cs during Tidal shield to charge ult seems meh so I’m trying corro Gil strats

time to etch monai

[outer ermine]

lynx gloves holy

[edgy elk]

trust

-# this is the trials that p4- have to go through

[urban dagger]

Silly question. How much damage am I losing out on if I dont fully max out a units abilities? I have my main DPS at 9/9 on all of their stuff, but i haven't sent any of the mastery levels at all

[frozen tide]

25 percent multiplier diff between l9 and m3

And in some cases theres more than just multiplier like cs cd reduction and such

[merry kite]

How exactly energy works in this game? Why an operator gains less energy , when there is sp return?

[potent hornet]

go read the skills and ults, tells you how much sp cost and what they return if any. i think the normal gen is 7.5/s i could be wrong, pulling that from the top of my head

prydwen probably has all that info as well

[river ermine]

i cant trust cyge with game balancing

[river ermine]

unless stated otherwise
6.5 energy/100natural sp for everyone
10 energy/cs for triggerer

[merry kite]

Ok, thanks

[potent hornet]

dern i was off by one

[frozen tide]

If it just says energy gain in description it overrides

If it says additional energy gain somewhere it adds

[river ermine]

yk i think this is just bs vs cs

ive never seen a cs that gets 10+something

bs is always 6.5/100sp + the additional energy

[frozen tide]

Not last rites

Lrs overwrites i think

Had an argument with a guy like months ago where one of us ended up recording lemme find it

.

[river ermine]

yeah well lr excluded

[frozen tide]

Yeah it doesn't give activation

[river ermine]

lr is special case

[drifting quest]

Skills give 6.5 energy to all teammates per 100 real sp used
Combos give 10 energy to caster only
Some have replacement effects to give more or less energy to self instead
Some have additional energy gains for self
Arclight cs is 5 only without being stated
Returned sp gives no energy

[edgy elk]

yeah, if only, that .065 would’ve saved me a lot of hassle

[river ermine]

game had an update that states every energy gain outside of 6.5/100sp fyi

idk when that was but its now all stated ingame

except for sp usage energy gain

[drifting quest]

Nice

[edgy elk]

imean .065 applies to literally everyone except LR
It’s like stating off-stats give 0% multiplier except Lifeng

[merry kite]

i see, thanks

[river ermine]

think its more of a problem that irs 6.5/100sp

therefore they also need to state in skill that sp return doesnt give energy

could be quite wordy

still not stated anywhere in-game abot 6.5energy afaik

unless their tutorial updated idk

[edgy elk]

yeah that’s an issue

[frozen tide]

I don't remember seeing such a thing either

[elder kelp]

they should add more optional explanations tho, ive never know how much energy a skill used on one character is given to the other 3

[river ermine]

wiki has it

on the sp page

tldr 6.5energy/100 non return sp

[elder kelp]

wiki is not the game aint it

[river ermine]

only this will be given to other members

[river ermine]

idk man if i wanna learn about the game, the game itself isnt the first thing i look for

[edgy elk]

yeah it isn’t but it’s the best we got rn

[elder kelp]

i mean if you were day 1 you basically look at forums and the game itself equally if not more in the game

[river ermine]

of course you would be trying to figure out how the game works

but isnt that part of the fun

if the game just explains you every single detail whats there to do

[elder kelp]

nah bro i'm all for speed

havent been looking at this place but ive spent dozen of hours on bilibili or youtubes to look at top records

[edgy elk]

speed mentioned
Where’s hifumi

[elder kelp]

if i was here earlier i wouldnt have stopped at tntn 0*

[river ermine]

tbh just look at factory tutorial

turns out to be arse

[river ermine]

figuring out the gears etc isnt all that fast

[elder kelp]

i was talking about clear time

[edgy elk]

Speedrunners spend even more time figuring out gear

Where else do u see catas Estella + Yvonne

[river ermine]

clear time got nothing to do with optional explanation

[elder kelp]

wdym, you gotta figure out the math to know the optimal buttons

amd limit test them in real play

[river ermine]

am i missing something, how is that the same with wanting optional explanation in the game

[river ermine]

yk, the main topic

[edgy elk]

what’s this discussion even about
words are flying and we’re establishing nothing
Let’s 🤝 and call it a day. conclusion: endfield.wiki.gg

[elder kelp]

so that i can have an easier time planning bro

[river ermine]

idk either i or them strayed away from the main topic no idea

[elder kelp]

pretty sure i started the convo about how the game should add more wordy, detailed things about game mechanic like break value, energy charge rate etc

[edgy elk]

and the verdict is, everyone agrees
Let’s all 🤝 now ok

[elder kelp]

yea sure

[outer ermine]

fuck bro lemme use chen on rosshatter

imagine losing to phy

[edgy elk]

Chen Rossi Estella Alesh

put Estella on SM too while ur at it

[outer ermine]

cant brute force enuf

[edgy elk]

losing to phy
The one boss where stagger is useful

[elder kelp]

what stage are u looking at

[edgy elk]

tidalklast speedrun

I’m pretty sure

[elder kelp]

aint phys at 47s ish and rossi is 40s

that was 2 days ago

somethjng new dropped?

[outer ermine]

delete the boss

its 42 phy

[edgy elk]

And this is Shatter Rossi, not arts Rossi

[elder kelp]

ah new vid dropped it seems

[outer ermine]

rossi arts peaks at 38 if the pilot was better but 39 is ight

grind my 38 when

[edgy elk]

[river ermine]

have we even seen 39

[outer ermine]

ye

[elder kelp]

you have a fully maxed account?

[river ermine]

oh fr

[outer ermine]

same person from rossi group w 40s

[edgy elk]

oh my, hifu found someone to critfish for him

monumental

[river ermine]

the 40s didnt even show gear

[outer ermine]

grind for me?

[elder kelp]

its probably every thing maxed

[frozen tide]

@outer ermine Is lupine p5 better than rascent/gm fot chen

[river ermine]

gear ≠ pots

[elder kelp]

nah i'm just curious

[elder kelp]

everything

literally every button there is i mean

[river ermine]

ok but what gear did they use? everything too?

[edgy elk]

no, Rena meant gearing options…

[river ermine]

did they use catas rossi?

did they use hot work rossi?

[edgy elk]

SM Rossi

[elder kelp]

hmm sorry then

[outer ermine]

its just pulsar per, xira gil, sm gv chen and surprisingly slab instead of radar

[edgy elk]

Slab spook

[river ermine]

woah wtf gv chen

[outer ermine]

me when p5 gv is better cuz of stats

fuck ai

[river ermine]

arts intensity maxxed chen stagger?

[edgy elk]

Hifu what’s the fastest LR you’ve seen

[outer ermine]

shes waiting sin

didnt check too much lr, prob bjs

[edgy elk]

Xetah has a 57s p0p0, bluej might make a sub55s soon enuf, I be start fishing this time tmr
What’s it for whel

Wait bluej released one?

Slay

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

tt dude died so ones doing cryo

[edgy crater]

da heck tt dude

[river ermine]

yv lr tt xai 50s clear when

lr sundered staggerbot

[edgy crater]

sm lr

we got sm knives too for ulti damage

[edgy elk]

p5p5?

[edgy crater]

btw sin, sm lr probably got 5.4k atk

[edgy elk]

ain’t that normal

[edgy crater]

dats not normal

sm lr

[outer ermine]

yea theres no good ones

updated times on dc tho

[edgy elk]

..true

[outer ermine]

perlica being 4th is funni

[edgy crater]

tho dats just my guess since freah sm chest give her 5.2k atk

@edgy elk u on endfield?

i remember theres agi str ulti glove on sm

[edgy elk]

i dont think so

[edgy crater]

probably can use it n use aether stagger chest

[edgy elk]

oh agi str maybe

i thought u said str wil

im thinking moreso LR two kits and SM armor and offpiece glove

if SM

since kit stats matter less

[edgy crater]

knives basically 100% ulti damage

[edgy elk]

same as YL lr

two knive 134%

[outer ermine]

oh wait that was another lr

[edgy crater]

its should be like 180 ulti damage on sm lr

[outer ermine]

both mfs using lr pfps

[edgy crater]

yeah but we can use aether chest for xtra dmg on stagger

[edgy elk]

hm true

surely matching stats on gloves would be better than a lil dmg%

idk gotta sheet

[edgy crater]

just test it

[edgy elk]

bold of u to assume i have AT artificed

[edgy crater]

test it on fresh gear bruh

hifu how much stagger lr do at p5 again? 35?

[edgy elk]

p1 is the only stagger pot no?

[edgy crater]

kinda forgot

[edgy elk]

35 across cs ult

and her bs adds 5 stagger per

[edgy crater]

with sm data should be 42

[edgy elk]

oh yea

[edgy crater]

try it

[glad veldt]

yo does Stanza has better buff for Ardelia compared to her sig? numbers wise or should I just use sig?

[edgy elk]

depends on dilution

whose team and what other weapons

[glad veldt]

laevatein

[edgy elk]

hmm idk lae...
but i dont think dmg taken is very diluted there, whereas atk% alr has sig + thermite on it

vibes say dreams>stanz
but you'll have to get someone to sheet it to know for sure

[glad veldt]

damn Idk how to sheet that lmao

i aint good at math

[blazing stratus]

attentive and exploitative way to use sanity as ragebait

[edgy crater]

should i show 663 starry

[blazing stratus]

my next project, see you again

going back to the mines

[outer ermine]

bro wants to see my thermal on alesh

[edgy elk]

no lv90 smh

[edgy elk]

did u etch will or smth

💀

[blazing stratus]

thanks for reminding me, i have to pull for another chivalric virtues then

so it stays on level 1

😭

[outer ermine]

[edgy crater]

aleshlover27

[edgy elk]

some napkin math off the top of my head

stanz:
(1+.39+.1+.16+.224)/(1+.39+.1+.16) = 13.5% increase
dreams:
(1+.16)/1 = 16% increase

stay on dreams ig

[edgy elk]

nO that's me

hifu can be 28

[outer ermine]

oh wait i can get shatter to actually do chen instead of endmin

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

brb

[glad veldt]

Oh nice ok ill stay on dreams! Big thanks man!!!

[edgy elk]

disclaimer i mightve missed smth cus idk lae's team take it w a grain of salt

but yw

[glad veldt]

yeah ill stay with dreams for now maybe test it in action later but idk if thats consistent

[edgy crater]

we haven dummy test for dat

[edgy elk]

another rhodagn to the graveyard

[edgy crater]

hifu ex aka rhodagon

[glad veldt]

yes fr my stanza aint p5 yet tho so I might have to wait a bit

[edgy crater]

get ur p5 stanza now

[glad veldt]

not on the shop yet

[outer ermine]

bomb planted

inb4 they have no dmg

but surely below 50

[edgy crater]

frontier chest + sm should give 210 ulti damage?

[outer ermine]

sm w dagger + radar prob

how many is that i dont wanna open wiki

[edgy elk]

two ulti kits is 134.6%

idk ab the rest

[edgy crater]

already check, its 224.3 ulti

frontier chest + sm ulti set

[outer ermine]

doable

[edgy crater]

not the raw stat

not confident its hit 5k lol

[frozen tide]

Thermite hasn't been on shop yet right

[edgy crater]

yeah i think

also schling, just pull brigand

brigand crate give u thermite

[frozen tide]

I have p0 brigand

I have p0 thermite as well

I was just wondering if there's a relatively inexpensive way to get thermite pots

[outer ermine]

i need p5 gm

[chilly bolt]

Im so broke i dont think i will even buy thermite if it ever come to shop

[outer ermine]

circling back to build og shatter

[frozen tide]

Next battlepass you get ts

Which p5 bp weaps do you even have

[edgy elk]

whuh, u don't have p11 lupine?

[outer ermine]

can

[outer ermine]

gm just now

[edgy elk]

can chen even get 3 stacks on GM in OG shatter

are u playing endmin / chen or chen / rossi

[chilly bolt]

Shatter without endmin?

[edgy elk]

rossi shatter is just a rossi team wrapper anw

[chilly bolt]

Does shatter rossi team works simply because rossi p5 is broken

[drifting quest]

it works because rossi is a decent unit and the game is piss easy

p0p0 rossi can do it

[outer ermine]

i need essence

surely fine w just 1/2 stacks

[jolly bison]

that's a LOT of vul stacks

[frozen tide]

Does chen not bs in shatter

Genuinely no clue what shatter rots looks like

But 2 chen cs is 2 stacks alr

[edgy elk]

uhh in Endmin / Chen, 100ult start, you got
2 vuln from estella
chen has 2 left to apply, or else ur leaking vuln
plus SP issue cus estella bs -> alesh bs -> endmin crush

[frozen tide]

Hmm maybe it would just be 2 stack then

🤔

[edgy elk]

ig longer setup would do the trick

[frozen tide]

2stack gm isn't bad still

[outer ermine]

prob need to break early, rossi ult, 50%+chen finisher, then chen ult hopefully

[edgy elk]

yeah

[outer ermine]

i get free sp too so

[edgy elk]

one more chen bs for the GM stack

[waxen knoll]

whats the most up to date build for phys?

[drifting quest]

it depends on team, content, use case, yada yada

[waxen knoll]

yeah but did 1.2 change any notable gears or nah not really

[drifting quest]

yes, situationally

[pallid shell]

@edgy elk 52s tidal with lr

[edgy elk]

you?

gg

[pallid shell]

yep

[edgy elk]

niceee

same strat as Xetah's? or

[pallid shell]

arde instead of perl

[edgy elk]

ah :3

[pallid shell]

tt does finisher to save time

[edgy elk]

im tryna cook a 4bs -> blank cs -> cs4 -> ult with LR gil

i'll be fishing for that after finals week

[waxen knoll]

what did it change for chen?

[pallid shell]

i also tried that

[edgy elk]

oh?

[pallid shell]

hard to set up corro and get cs quick

[edgy elk]

tt ult slave

can get insta cs right after gil ult

pre xai cs -> pre tt bs -> pre dive -> gil ult -> instant 3 stack

[pallid shell]

ah i see

[edgy elk]

#team-build message
same idea as this, corro3 -> cs4 -> ult

idk how it'd work in practice vs tidal tho

prob gotta corro ramp vs tidal instead, baby corro wont cut it

[frozen tide]

gilb btk is secret sauce

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j93REGzt3JYojdbLl7_nrWcrPozD0JqX/view?pli=1

i filmed this like first day i got gilb

i think you can cancel quite a bit faster

basically cancel 80 percent of the sequences

[dry kindle]

Why google drive 😭

[frozen tide]

its streamables if you think abt it

[dry kindle]

🗿

[frozen tide]

i cant think of any character faster btk start to fs than gilb

🤔

with cancels

though cancelling 3 times every btk is stam heavy

[edgy elk]

how long for a cycle

fs to fs

[edgy elk]

maybe not every fs but gil swap would be 😋

[frozen tide]

this is what i had typed before

no clue what the logistics were

completely forgor by now

[outer ermine]

this might actually work

46 but i need 150~200k out of nowhere

i should just build bk for endmin ngl

pretty close w full crit

shits giving me hope on a boss i dont wanna grind

[lime bear]

just done the Umbral

ez af fr

fangyi sweeps

[jade hemlock]

same but the last stage genuinely gave me rage issues 😭

[merry kite]

why we don't have def shred in game

[swift onyx]

Corrosion:

[merry kite]

that's res shred

not def shred

[edgy elk]

the, uh, acid turret thing

[merry kite]

real, what the helly

[swift onyx]

But phys has res rating

[river ermine]

defense and res are different silly

[swift onyx]

Im not silly

[merry kite]

silly

[river ermine]

you are my silly

[swift onyx]

Sln wont like that

[sturdy hill]

wuh

[river ermine]

its okay sln is right beside me

[sturdy hill]

can he kill you

[river ermine]

nah theyre the one who wants to be killee

[swift onyx]

[sturdy hill]

bwaaa

[edgy elk]

catching strays 💀

[dusk isle]

Looks like theorycrafting

[sturdy hill]

yep its tcing

[zealous stratus]

hi sorry im too stupid, why is it clogged? this is suppose to clear out the dirty water right?

[narrow swan]

👍

btw you cant dump sewage in the pond bc its not healthy for the pond

[half perch]

you need to use Water Treatment facility for that

not dumping it, as you cant

[zealous stratus]

ahh i see. hmm okok thanks

[elder kelp]

at which point is gil's signature better than stanza p5

[drifting quest]

at any point where you need uge
buff wise it can still lose a p5, conditionally

[elder kelp]

UGE?

[main nova]

i meant... as long as the other team mate is element dif, stanza is better tbh

[frozen tide]

Vibes wise >p2 feels like where sig starts having an edge commonly

[sturdy hill]

ult gain eff

[frozen tide]

But yeah its extremely case dependant

[elder kelp]

i've decided to die on the hill of fire element so my main atm is laevatein and most speed runs use gil's sig in stuffs like ruan yi nefarith so i'm really considering it next rerun

[frozen tide]

Well with uge laev gil does like sig

Because the whole thing with uge laev is rotating ults 10 billion times

And gilb needs a fuckton of uge to keep up

[elder kelp]

i can get it to p3 but it could ruin my stock for the next fire support so its like a bet here

[frozen tide]

As opposed to smth with less frequent dmg windows where gilb doesn't need to build ult as fast

[elder kelp]

to bet on gil's relevancy or future spower spike

[frozen tide]

🤔

Gilb is a good unit

Can't really future read into powercreep too much

I wouldn't force sig potentials still

[elder kelp]

yea but she has nothing to do with lae teams rn unless you preload everything

[frozen tide]

Sig third line buff is what becomes stronger with pots

But gilb sig third line buff is not that strong to start with

[elder kelp]

how quick does she charge realistically at p5 sig

ive seen youtube vids of her doing back to back ults with no food

but still idk the numbers and its vibe

[frozen tide]

P5 or p0 doesn't matter

Uge is second line of the weapon which doesn't change with weapon pots

[elder kelp]

ah ok

[frozen tide]

And also

No matter how high your uge is

Gilb can only ult once every 20 secs

Due to ultimate cooldown itself

[elder kelp]

but i saw the nefarith 28s did it back to back wtf

nah my mistake

hmm ok

[chilly bolt]

Yep zfy ult is 25s long lmao

[outer ermine]

sp usage so good even og shatter cant believe it works

[tough roost]

Avywena with qingbo uge set using chimeric justice in zfy team

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1Kr5V6XEX7
@edgy elk

made bro stay up until 4am

[edgy elk]

U demon

Didn’t u say u could get 48s with Rossi End?

[jagged bough]

liar

[edgy elk]

is the missile attack at :26 avoidable with mvfishing or do u just gotta deal w it

oh Oh OH that’s a mobile player
Kindred soul???

[ashen scroll]

[outer ermine]

easier to fish w chen u just need 3 interrupts

can fish for it just gotta keep distance

i told him how many skills etc he needs but couldnt figure out the 3 interrupt so now i gotta show it

w/o staccing ai

w 2 missiles btw

[glad veldt]

Would AI be bad for Ardelia right? cuz she consumes it or would it be worth to build AI Qingbo for her with M3 CS

[edgy elk]

woah break at 39 with two missiles

how fast would that be w/o

shatter rossi sub45 dream

[outer ermine]

its on pace w the 39s since theres only 2 3 interrupt setups rn

but its harder w this cuz all melee and i need the sp

1st interrupt is ight, 2nd ur fighting against time, 3rd u can bait and gap close w estella

[edgy elk]

is 39s the record rn

[outer ermine]

burst is slower tho

yea

can easily beat it for 38 if u log tf in my acc

[edgy elk]

whuh

im. spending tn on this

23 next

don’t think 4 or 5 is possible 🫠

do we know yet, how much stagger HP tidal has total + how much each interrupt give

rough pixel count 500 stagger
(ref: alesh ult 20)

@outer ermine what's the AI on your chen?
top: alesh ult ref
bottom: chen bs interrupt

[outer ermine]

[outer ermine]

0

amazing right

[edgy elk]

[outer ermine]

26 on estella

[edgy elk]

SM chen right

[outer ermine]

ye

[edgy elk]

on GM?

[frozen tide]

Whats that head on the bottom left

[edgy elk]

~120 stagger on chen bs interrupt, total
1.2(10+10+10+10) = 48 stagger from chen (bs, talent, lift, swordmancer)
so then, interrupt tidal gives ~70 stagger
with the very questionable accuracy of pixel counting

[river ermine]

youtube shorts

[frozen tide]

Ic

[river ermine]

or something of the like

[river ermine]

do this for the hp next

[edgy elk]

the HP is worth a p5p5 rossi's ult plus a p2p5 endmin crush
sheet that urself

[river ermine]

you didnt account for out of stagger damages

and all the other random batk dmg

smh

[edgy elk]

what damage

[river ermine]

p sure tidal has def up when not staggered

[edgy elk]

tickle tickle

[river ermine]

yeah use that as a reference for the whole bar

[edgy elk]

im off to play avemujicaknights in is5

[outer ermine]

ytshorts

[frozen tide]

Gen z moment

[outer ermine]

gotta do smt during a 4hr surgery smh

[dry kindle]

Minecraft 🗿

[outer ermine]

i am not sorry at all we broke besties

[frozen tide]

Ah yes i can read that text clearly

[edgy elk]

artifice em all

hifu yk any p5p5 vonne runners?

im experimenting with vonn (no lr) nef

[frozen tide]

They were found dead in a ditch

[edgy elk]

[chilly bolt]

What is Suzu doing here

[edgy elk]

twinning with hifu's rossi

[outer ermine]

for tidal?

[edgy elk]

playing with neffy rn

what's the fastest yvonne (no lr) vs neffy

do yk

[waxen knoll]

tfw this is the main reason i went with Wedge Yvonne over LR...
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1495318310584324218/1504002576947871834/image.png?ex=6a05670d&is=6a04158d&hm=5b255c4e1954ca8b3c30ef66a0f357af1cdb482e6564390d69f3da0cae6f175a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=432&height=242

still wondering if i truly miss out on much cuz everyone's going up and down over how LR is better thban Yvonne

[outer ermine]

theres a 01 68s other dc

cant recheck rn

buried af

[edgy elk]

i think i made a 18s phase 1 for p5p5

but i cant kill not enuf dmg

then tang bs + yvonne ult for phase2 and done

[outer ermine]

theres a 54, 19s ph1 but can be better

[edgy elk]

p5p5?

[outer ermine]

remind me later if i feel like it

yea

cata tt p0, p2 gil stanza

[edgy elk]

ic

cata tt hm

im running cata xai

i think full whel acc can get away with cata both

[outer ermine]

double cata

[edgy elk]

my current rot getting bricked by 5 less SP return from p0 TT

[frozen tide]

Yvonne is trickier

Not necessarily worse i think

Her ult being forced cc on yourself is a bit unfortunate

Her ult being st is also unfortunate

[outer ermine]

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[edgy elk]

hifu do yk how to get tt to cs faster

rn it’s,
Xai bs -> tt fs -> Gil ult + Yvonne bs + tt ult -> (nef last swing) -> super jump & dive -> Yvonne fs -> all cs go -> [tangtang bs + Yvonne bs kill]
but tt stupid ahh cs too long, bs comes too slow, Gil ult runs out

[outer ermine]

thats a early af gil ult

does that kill

[edgy elk]

yeah

well if it hits

it definitely kills if i go BK TT but, I'm missing 5 SP return for that to work

so im going double catas rn 🧱

[dusk isle]

Get a p5 lr

[edgy elk]

and yvonne's bs literally impacts two frames after Gil ult ends

[dusk isle]

Oh wait das a yv rot

[edgy elk]

yeah

[dusk isle]

Get a p1 tt

[merry kite]

who's gonna pull on reruns?

[edgy elk]

guh

[dusk isle]

Thats tidalklast rot right

[edgy elk]

nef

[dusk isle]

Oh wait it is nef

[outer ermine]

is there a break there if u cc her

[dusk isle]

What time do you get with it

[edgy elk]

dunno yet working on phase 1

if this works then 18s phase 1

[dusk isle]

I mean on phase 1

[edgy elk]

with BS only

[dusk isle]

18s pretty good

[edgy elk]

and i just yvonne ult phase 2

and it's over

[dusk isle]

Do you need any sp in yv ult ?

[edgy elk]

both xai and tt on catas

it's daijoubu

i end phase 1 with a bar

[dusk isle]

Oh ok then

[edgy elk]

then it'd be, xai bs (50sp) -> yvonne bs -> cs -> ults in phase 2

[dusk isle]

If you end phase 1 with a bar

It should be fine

[edgy elk]

problem is i can't end phase 1

cus TT cs too slow

[edgy elk]

wdym cc?

[dusk isle]

You do 2 cs ?

[edgy elk]

one

[dusk isle]

Wait you cant do 2 cs in 18s

[edgy elk]

i need the suscep and SP return and brigand

[dusk isle]

Sorey i just woke up

[outer ermine]

tt ult

[edgy elk]

i already do

overlap with super jump

maybe it's just a pilot issue

if i delay gil ult as much as i can-

[dusk isle]

How fast can you even cast all your cs

The all cs go

[outer ermine]

vid so we can make fun

[edgy elk]

uh one sec im rec rn

[dusk isle]

Hifu wants to beat another cryo main with his p5 khra

[outer ermine]

imma slap rossi gear on yv again

[edgy elk]

wait im skill issuing gimme a bit

typing here broke my focus

guh this is so stupid, if i gil ult too late the super jump cancels her ult

[dusk isle]

Cant you just

tt ult > 3rd wave > super junp + dive > tt cs > gil ult > yvonne fs > all cs go

Oh that fucks up yvonne batk

I forgot to put in the yvonne bs

[edgy elk]

no food here

wait i forgor my mobile quality sucks

one sec lemme process it

[edgy elk]

also can't do this, gil ult gotta be first cus yvonne bs consume that nature to get cs's

idea is, gil ult to set up, then 3 stack into bs to kill

[dusk isle]

Yeye i realized that after i typed it

[edgy elk]

oh lol i skill issued xai
her ult's supposed to go off before her cs hits, then she gets ult energy back

[dusk isle]

I forgot that yvonne had that instant fs

[edgy elk]

i lose gil like, half a second before yvonne bs hits

here's an old clip with BK TT, food, crit, and better piloting

[outer ermine]

hmm

lemme finish my daily first

[edgy elk]

how daring, dailies 20 min til reset

[outer ermine]

can u delay tt ult i hate it there for some reason

[edgy elk]

tank the wave?

[outer ermine]

just jump early after gil ult and yv bs

dive and buffer-hold tt ult

[edgy elk]

that works?

woah

[outer ermine]

try i only got 10mins left

[edgy elk]

i'll try

ok

i'll do dailies and slep on it
i could just use gil ult as stackbot, 22s phase 1 is not bad

[edgy elk]

i dont think this works on super jump

or mayb im doing smth wrong

[outer ermine]

are u in range

i can play in a bit

[edgy elk]

wdym by buffer hold?

long press?

[outer ermine]

yea on air

[edgy elk]

super jump makes every teammate jump

so nobody can use ult

[outer ermine]

itll cast when u land

just b4 u land actually

[edgy elk]

o rly?

ok i'll try again then

omg it does work

[outer ermine]

u prob need to be a bit closer since u stop nef from being kbed w tt ult

[edgy elk]

ig i can delay gil ult by a little bit now

gil ult to cover tt fs instead

then jump then buffer

and it'll be daijoubu ihope

oh god she gets kb so much

[outer ermine]

ur delay is dashing in

ez timing

[edgy elk]

like, i shouldn't dash 1st thing?

[outer ermine]

u can delay gil ult now right, prob just after fs then gil ult

idk if u get hit w wave or super will save u

[edgy elk]

wait right yeah i gotta test if gil has iframe like perly

if she does then it's ezpz

cus ik tt doesn't

[outer ermine]

tt is long af so

[edgy elk]

omg she does

alright im making a new rot

[outer ermine]

bro is not sleeping

another victim

can u buffer jump and iframe it should work

[edgy elk]

can't buffer jump

if i jump then she gets kb out of range

also if i jump why would i need to bother to iframe

[outer ermine]

normal jump for tt ult

[edgy elk]

true

i'll probably regular jump after

since cs has a gap in the middle anw

where nth's happening

it'll work it'll work trust

ngl damage might be short cus i dont have p2 gil or p3 tt

def enuf if I BK TT but SP concernge

[outer ermine]

i remember testing and it working co and nonco

[edgy elk]

like, tt co, dive+buffer?

[outer ermine]

tt co, jump, gil ult, dive buffer

[edgy elk]

ah ic

btw i got tt ult iframe working too

i guess i was just skillissuing for thirty runs or smth

[outer ermine]

diff timing for everyone i posted some in dc but stopped there cuz i dont use anyone else

[edgy elk]

huge timesave skipping super jump

[dusk isle]

So do we have another duct taped cryo rot

[edgy elk]

too many options now i've decided to slep on it

i'll do it tmr morning

[dusk isle]

Gnight s.ln

Dont disappoint us, make a rot more questionable than mine

[edgy elk]

i'm already running double catas what more do u want from me

[dusk isle]

you can afford to run double catas

Whel

[edgy elk]

hush

[dusk isle]

P5 yvonne smh

[edgy elk]

need i remind u who has p3 lr p2 tt

[dusk isle]

https://tenor.com/view/address-me-gif-3314967408153193330

[edgy elk]

your LR foodless cs does 100k more than my fooded cs

[dusk isle]

Thats because youre on mobile

[edgy elk]

it has nothing to do with mobile and everything to do with your p2 gilberta that i forgot to mention earlier

[dusk isle]

[outer ermine]

how to be cryo main

• iframe (mandatory)

[edgy elk]

• critfish (mandatory)

[outer ermine]

-crit (optional)

[edgy elk]

too broke to afford optional crits

[dusk isle]

crit(missed the meeting)

If only lr cs wasnt broken

[outer ermine]

feature atp

[dusk isle]

Does rossi have the same exact shit on her cs hifu ?

I think it does bonus dmg on amount of stacks converted to vuln

[outer ermine]

idk actually i barely use it

[dusk isle]

Does that part crit seperately than the base

[dusk isle]

Eh, figured as much

If rossi doesnt have it and lr does it would be the funniest shit ever

[fringe thicket]

What percentage of Yvonne's total damage is caused by her other abilities?

[edgy elk]

...he says, while we spent an hour working on killing nef with bs only

[edgy elk]

here, battleskill during ult vs ult efs

• gil: corro1, gil ult, stanza, 1 stack into bs
• perly: elec2, stanza, 2 stacks into bs
• fluo: 4 stacks into bs

[dusk isle]

fluo

Kittmittpilled

[edgy elk]

this was when i was tryna disprove Fluo Yvonne

ofc ult also has the pewpew part but i've yet to do a comprehensive calc across an entire yvonne rotation
but battleskill isn't negligible for sure

[merry kite]

wouldn't you want to level up ba as well?

[edgy elk]

yes, since she refreshes fs quite often
but more for consistency over longer fights & downtime. short run, it's less of a deal than bs or ult

[merry kite]

no, it's more about,

isn't ba her main damage? Isn't it enhanced in ult form? And i mean that the ba in kit has increased mults during ult (unlike lae and zhu with independent ba in ult)

[drifting quest]

her damage type is basic attack but the multiplier is only via ult

[merry kite]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-24107071

i've been lied to

[drifting quest]

basic attack levels dont increase ult damage, but are still worth it for non ult damage portion

[merry kite]

i was told this before (not here, if you are curious)

[drifting quest]

might have been poorly worded or they were just wrong

the damage type is 'basic attack' so something like basic attack damage dealt% (MI sec gear) will increase it. but it's actual multiplier is exclusively from ult.
L1 and M3 basic attack both have the same ult damage

[merry kite]

i see, thanks

[merry kite]

shuo

how about making fankit?

just once

for fun

[drifting quest]

would need to find some free time to set aside that I dont have right now

[merry kite]

daym, i see

[tawny lagoon]

bets on Thermite in shop next week?

[swift onyx]

500 on it being another rascent or oblivion

[dusk isle]

Another clannibal

[swift onyx]

[edgy crater]

nah ff

[outer ermine]

holy 17 on dot nef ph1

fucked up 2nd phase tho i havent played this shit in a while

[edgy crater]

rossie shatter?

[outer ermine]

ye

i forgor if i have enuf dmg w/o xira hmm

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

i can prob 35 or sum shit w qb estella here

didnt kill on double crit 💀

loll not even 20 tries today

im fucking free

just tidal now

can be 37 tho didnt oneshot ph1

lemme try more ig

game said no

[dusk isle]

Cant relate

[dusk isle]

Can relate

[outer ermine]

fuck that cost me 1.77s

36.3 comm timer 34 on oneshot, 36 on official if so

ig i gotta farm

[outer ermine]

oh well

[daring dove]

Wonder if we'll get more arsenal packs tomorrow. Would be nice to to stockpile arsenal tokens even further.

[outer ermine]

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[outer ermine]

ez save

[royal knoll]

what news do we have?

[daring dove]

Just new zone tomorrow & re-run banner. Likely means new factory upgrades as well as more mining nodes.

[lime nacelle]

Nooo I'm not ready!

[royal knoll]

we only have one more upgrade left. is it at the reset?

[neat snow]

I was hoping this too..

[honest hill]

You're a peasant forever, you're never free

[thorny fjord]

tried to recreate the first image to the best of my ability

my main issue is figuring the ports

whether they're convergers splitters or bridges

[edgy elk]

uh u might be in the wrong channel, #aic-factory is downstairs

[thorny fjord]

oh mb

[twilit nebula]

Will mifu be flame?

https://tenor.com/view/mifu-arknights-endfield-im-gonna-touch-you-arknights-gif-7171962269607513851

[proven fractal]

Any way I could turn an Elcetric gun char into Rossi 2.0?

Trying to make a oc kit here and having a hard time

Could I ask for assistance?

[normal tangle]

what does rossi 2.0 mean to you

[merry kite]

Either that or electro

[merry kite]

Ain’t no way, a fankit

[proven fractal]

Yep

This be tough

[merry kite]

may i introduce to my template?

[proven fractal]

Do tell

[merry kite]

and fankits i've made so far

[merry kite]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N85JFf1ZFgy6dp836u4OVNowNk3vKcCwyA-L9Y74S3I/edit?tab=t.0

here's the latest fankit, in first table there's another one and a template

[proven fractal]

Thank you so much

[merry kite]

propagating fankits

[dry kindle]

What no cc does to people

[merry kite]

you should join

[dry kindle]

[edgy elk]

storing up a fs sequence lets yvonne spam dive-attacks without needing to dash-cancel

haven't tested for any other operator yet

though i doubt this'll make a difference for anything outside solo clears

update: doesn't work on LR or TT

[edgy elk]

wulf's auto-dive is pretty fast
storing up an fs makes him dive so slow that he loses the fs

so far it's just yvonne it seems

[swift onyx]

Pookie, i found something i think youll laugh at

[swift onyx]

Check team

[merry kite]

so, reruns are appearing now

[merry kite]

What’s your fankit about, btw?

[dusk isle]

Well see about its usefulness when you need 17 picoseconds for sub X time

[edgy elk]

When would u need to dive twice

[outer ermine]

improve ur 495

[edgy elk]

I should

tonight, trust

[merry kite]

When dive atk dps

[edgy elk]

When someone builds tangtang ultbot with obj

[merry kite]

[dusk isle]

Sub 480s i trust

[edgy elk]

Don’t underestimate me
I can sub 479

[outer ermine]

[ivory gale]

doesn't seem to work on Ember either

does this count as a solo? (probably not)
https://medal.tv/games/arknights-endfield/clips/mHQhJawwnYHVZXncd?invite=cr-MSxWWGQsMjEwNTc0OTQx&v=233

[ripe adder]

guys i need dps perlica build

gonna run her along with zhuang bc why not

[edgy elk]

probably pulser 3pc + slab + obli, as with mdps perlica
altho you'll lose uge and cs cdr; and the armor is ai, which is a half-dead stat w fangyi
-# disclaimer: i do not play fangyi; i'm inferring from mdps perly. trust me at ur own peril

can also statmatch glove + 2 ult kits

[merry kite]

dead

[edgy elk]

slab it is ig
assuming ult crit, m3, max artifice, p0 obli 90 9/9/4; enemy electrified by perly, ult cast <5s after cs for p3

[outer ermine]

theres no tc on jo?

[stone escarp]

https://warfarin.wiki/en/items/item_corp4_spc
new food, might be good for speedkill strat

[drifting quest]

stew meeting powercreep

brutal

[dusk isle]

Fillet + amber rice
Farming hell

[dry kindle]

For fuck sake

Is there a slug pudding upgrade as well

[edgy elk]

wait i read wrong nvm i'm bad
insta-80% two ults

[dusk isle]

Deleting is insane

[edgy elk]

been a long day

[dry kindle]

1

[edgy elk]

is there no "4 uses per battle" upgrade?

[dry kindle]

Idk what collection it's even in

Haven't logged on 🗿

[edgy elk]

and i'm NA🗿

we'll see ig

we'll be hitting 20s ult cd (most supps) soon enough
time to see when it actually makes a difference

usage for strikers in multiphase content, likely

[pallid shell]

another tactical LR can't use

[dusk isle]

We should be grateful jay

Imagine farming for 2x amber rice and 4x fillet PER ATTEMPT

[pallid shell]

fair point

[fringe thicket]

Ardelia uptime of skill is bad?

in Laeviatan team

you prefer spam skill Laeviathan?

[mint grove]

how much better is gilberta sig vs p5 wild wanderer?

[edgy elk]

a lot better than WW
gilberta can't trigger WW at all

common alternatives to Gil sig:

• Stanza: usually better than p0 sig for a single burst, but usually worse in uptime. situational sidegrade to p0 delivery; neither is strictly "better"
• Monaihe: UGE and arts intensity boost
• OBJ: DMG%+ to heat and elec; arts intensity boost

[outer ermine]

damn i hate that fucking food

[echo cove]

What the fucking fuck?

How to unlock

Also, farming rice....?

Jesus

[drifting quest]

side quest reward in new area most likely

[echo cove]

Hell yea, am gonna grab it sumtime today

Time to become a farmer once again ig

2 amber rice kinda expensive ngl

[drifting quest]

yield is pretty good from plots iirc

no different than like ginseng farming

[edgy elk]

more farming for you, hifumi
u cannot escape the agricultural revolution

[echo cove]

It's the same as ginseng, yeah

Which is kinda bad if u compare it to like fluf jincao n stuff

But ig better than nothing

[edgy elk]

dog spawnspots being overworked

ecosystem degradation, dogs extinct

[echo cove]

Huh wym

What the

What

Whaaaa

There'll be less meat?

[edgy elk]

we'll be splitting fillet across ginseng and ration

but then again we'll also be splitting our ginseng farm between rice and ginseng

assuming u actually need to farm both

[echo cove]

Am prolly retiring ginseng for jacub atp

Good luck speedkillers!

[edgy elk]

we jakubfish anyway ginseng sees 0 usage

-# exaggeration^ jakub on mdps, tang on ginseng for consistency, is the more accurate statement

[mint grove]

lmfao. i'm dumb.

sorry I meant OBJ AI

do you know if it's 16k arsenel tickets better than the sig?

[edgy elk]

whose team?
might wanna ask someone else if u want exact numbers, i'm just a cryo main

im guessing rossi

[mint grove]

fangyi?

[edgy elk]

fangyi? why not stanza then

[mint grove]

🤔 okay makes sense

[edgy elk]

it's true that stanz has uptime concerns (in some rotations) but that's a worry for gil-sig-havers

i'm not planning to sheet for fangyi, but, vibes say 22.4% atk (which is then diluted 49% from xiranflow+fy sig) beats out uberdiluted 22.4% elec dmg (gear, set effect, weapon) and 62 AI (gil's gear alr has ai, probably) from obj
-# of course, if anyone has sheeted for it, trust them over me

[dusk isle]

You can jakubfish my rot for me

250 attempts with ginseng and only 1 run that got both crits

Expected value 36 btw

[edgy elk]

napkin math

stanz atk: (1.65+.224)/1.65 = 13.5% increase
65% atk <= therm (16%) + xiranflow (10%) + sig (39%)

obj dmg dealt: (4.23+.224)/(4.23) = 5.2% increase
dmg dealt <= p0 sig, gear, set effect, gil's xira, arc's frontiers
1+.256+.64+.64+.249+.538+.149+.45+.16+.15

-# no guarantee i accounted for all of fangyi's multis tho

[edgy elk]

bad feng shui
buy a new gaming chair

[dusk isle]

How do i buy feng shuo

Shui

[wheat copper]

anyone got the numbers for efficient production? like for cuprium, xirenite, heavy xirenite, and syringe and stuff like that

[dusk isle]

Try #aic-factory

[outer ermine]

rebuild ur house

[daring dove]

Is there new weapon arsenal bundles, I’m occupied at work need a spy on the inside.

[outer ermine]

we both na i havent asked asia mfs

[edgy elk]

NA waiting for content

[outer ermine]

[daring dove]

Ah yeah won’t be updated until about 1800 today

[distant python]

Time to shower while I wait yep

Or I could play nte

Or I could revise for my Monday exam

[dusk isle]

What if i am the house

Do i start replacing body parts

At what point do i stop being myself and become someone else

[edgy elk]

so-called consciousness is just perceived continuity
in other words, gaslight urself

[outer ermine]

can i live inside u

[edgy elk]

nonono hifu ithrene's insides have bad feng shui
keep ur luxury whel apartment

[outer ermine]

also u guys r late af in chain solo 💀 just search 106 and backread me and holo convo

[edgy elk]

it sorta just came up
and idgaf ab lae and fangyi

bro's lurking #team-build and not joining in

[outer ermine]

ill clean him up

i misclick every now and then and read

[edgy elk]

bro wants zero traces in anywhere that isnt #theorycrafting
even i've talked in #help , like, once

[dusk isle]

You can

Im filled with s.ln's insulation rn

Really cozy

[edgy elk]

shiver shiver
i've become a real cryo main

[dusk isle]

i thought there was new tech that allowed other operators to solo it

look inside
it is just doesnt die talent

[edgy elk]

twenty iframes in cryo = none work
one self-sustain talent = works

[dusk isle]

zfy also solo dat shit i think

[golden rapids]

Zhuangs dmg increase per operator copy?

[edgy elk]

yeah

[dusk isle]

1/billion i dont take dmg talent

[edgy elk]

potentials? of course, yeah, more pots are better
for powerspikes and % difference you'd have to ask elec mains tho (anyone lurking?)

[golden rapids]

yes im asking for the %

https://tenor.com/view/uwu-gif-25901713

[edgy elk]

pray elec mains spawn gl

[drifting quest]

hard to quantify

try prydwens as a very rough guess i guess

[ripe adder]

chat is this dps perlica gear or what else im doing

[outer ermine]

brr talent

[edgy elk]

didn't i calc it for u, like, half a day ago?
#theorycrafting message

if purely maxxing perly's personal damage, then you'd want the ult damage kit too

new comparison updated for ai kit

[ripe adder]

oh my bad i missed it bc you didnt ping me, thanks man

im running perli on zhuang team

[edgy elk]

i know
good luck with cs cdr / ult gain / ai half-dead stat
u can handle it, trust™

[ripe adder]

yeah imean its dps perlica anyway we running on vibemax

[edgy elk]

the vision is there for those who believe

[ripe adder]

imean technically is it better if i just run max ai ww or max oblivion with slab

theres no real answer here

[edgy elk]

ask the elec mains, im not sheeting a whole zhuang rot

[ripe adder]

thas fair

[edgy elk]

but afaik AI's half-dead with fangyi cus she's consuming elec

unless ur rot lets u keep it up

[ripe adder]

thats what i thought initially

like all elec comes from her combo anyways so whyd perli need ai smh

[edgy elk]

iirc clown's doc recs uge + qb cus ai dead stat
uge for stagger iguess

but hey, subDPS perly, invested obli, maybe it'll be better

[ripe adder]

yea i was using that

and like qb doesnt matter when zhuang ults bro be doing all her own shi anyways

[eager scroll]

I finally figured out why everything was getting clogged, it's ratios 😭

[edgy elk]

uhhh
#aic-factory is downstairs

[ripe adder]

holy clog

[eager scroll]

Oh not that kind of theory gotcha

[edgy elk]

idk actually, what does #theorycrafting count as theory?
i live in #team-build

[eager scroll]

Theorycrafting is usually anything that has to do with number crunching to optimize stuff I guess?

at least in most games

and wacky builds or things that somehow work

[edgy elk]

so far i've only seen combat theories here i think
ig all the facmaxxers in aic or help

[elder kelp]

if i'm trying to use rossi and gil, stanza > gil's sig because rossi is burst right?

[tough roost]

not really if you run perlica stanza

[elder kelp]

i don't recall the typical rossi team cause they always end too fast but what is it like

[normal tangle]

is rerun banner out

[tough roost]

hyper rossi is rossi perli akekuri gil
rainbow is rossi perli tang tang gil
wheelchair is lae wulf rossi gil

[outer ermine]

yes

[tough roost]

there is also rossi perli endmin gil that i havent worked around yet. no clue what to do with it

[elder kelp]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1eD5j6VEEW/?vd_source=c243e4f165ae8bd0750cfda18f53d276

@edgy elk dude this was the nefarith run i said recalling gil doing back to back ult a few days back

[elder kelp]

akekuri needs to tap her E to get thermite cutter on right?

[tough roost]

no. she can only trigger thermite by combo or ult

[elder kelp]

ya

hmm i might just completely copy that video up there lol

[edgy elk]

p5power
stewmeetingpower

[edgy elk]

u have p5p5 rossi? p4 gil?

[outer ermine]

pray for luck ill get nef run today

[edgy elk]

👉 🐳
whale spotted

[outer ermine]

i think bro has p5 reputr

[elder kelp]

i can invest on rossi

i did 240 spark her last banner

and i'm trying to get her sig to p5 rn

[edgy elk]

i've been whaled on
alright, good luck

[elder kelp]

it's p2 atm

[edgy elk]

soon™

[outer ermine]

500 pulls to go

[elder kelp]

bro my lae sig costed 360 for p5

how are you whaling hifu

p10 gil and stuffs?

[outer ermine]

sin is sponsoring me

[edgy elk]

yes
cus apparently that's been decided by the democracy that i should sponser everyone's pulls

[outer ermine]

fund my laev

[edgy elk]

🔫 🫠 (me)

i'm keeping u in cryo if it's the last thing i do
shatter rossi counts copium

[outer ermine]

i just want the glow on sig since it looks good now

[edgy elk]

some whale-type logic
time to buy chiv p5

and etch 2nd stat for the glow

[outer ermine]

https://streamable.com/yohy9i
has to be qb angle but my xira

w endmin crit

maybe its faster than waiting

i have no batk dmg at all

[outer ermine]

mgiht have gotten it

but this mf roared me

[edgy elk]

whuah?

damn

roared? nef can roar?

[outer ermine]

lemme see cuz time rewinded on kill too

[daring dove]

[outer ermine]

36.383 it fucked me up

35 is prob the limit w estella cd