theorycrafting

[drifting quest]

my sticker got eaten

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-at-you-gif-15677477317679001616

[outer ermine]

crush crit is a lie

noo that one time

@edgy elk u lied it didnr kill w trust attri

[edgy crater]

w8 why crush crit only 446k

[outer ermine]

my endmin still coping

gib me ur artif luck

[edgy crater]

what luck when i hit 40/40 x3

[outer ermine]

i wanna sub 17 shatter so bad but .2 might be the limit

im done

il l wait

[honest hill]

Wait forever

[outer ermine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/takdes-mon3tr-gif-mcaspypilP4Evdafcc

[honest hill]

Go sit in the corner and wait

[outer ermine]

no ill grind fuck u

[wind gorge]

What is Zhunag's skill priority to master?

[granite bane]

Mon3tr in endfield is M3, when yah playable 🥲

[chilly bolt]

bs>cs>ult

[wind gorge]

I see. But why cs before ult? Since ult increase basic attack giving more bonus attack in general?

[drifting quest]

combo cdr > more elec > more damage / ult charge / etc

[chilly bolt]

her cs is the main source of electrification

more elec means more swords

more swords means bs hits harder

[drifting quest]

can be ignored if you dont play around it

[wind gorge]

Oh, is there cooldown reduction? I thought it'd only affect damage

[drifting quest]

most combo skills get a 1 second reduction at m3

[daring dove]

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[ocean turret]

DANG ITS TOMORROW?

[chilly bolt]

should be after tmr

wait it's already tmr now for some people

[trail flume]

What is this production event

[daring dove]

Really hope we get this chick as a playable character soon.

[outer ermine]

she mine stay away

[trail flume]

Yeah shes like 4 months away bud

probably more if the other character banners are 32+ days long

[daring dove]

[daring dove]

Next characters will be 17 days again if I had to guess. It seems there was a problem with 1.2 that delayed the release of more than 1 character.

I can't imagine a world in which they wanted Fangyi to be the only new release in nearly 50 days.

[trail flume]

Thats a double edged sword because this game doesnt give enough to rolls multiple characters lol

[frigid vector]

if this remains the case for future patches it's going to be really rough

super aggressive timeline

3 weeks already feels rushed as is, but it seems to have become a gacha standard of sorts

would rather that than the ridiculously short banners we were getting before

[mild carbon]

friends, furries, lend me your ears, torn between ultimate effeicney and battle skill damage for fangyi, anyone tried both yet?

[kindred sorrel]

i prefer these month long banners tbh

[mild carbon]

I'd prefer some alternative method for upgrading to p5 once a banner is gone

same for weapons

[edgy crater]

steering wheel

[frigid vector]

honestly I think it depends on your team/investment level

and also whether it helps on cold starts

for re-crisis/full ult starts I really struggle to see a UGE use case

everything is usually dead by 1 ult

[mild carbon]

well, what I'd like is to pop off battle skill non-stop for AMPS, but that isn't a gear build yet lol

[frigid vector]

and in long fights like marble

you get more than enough time to build it back up

giving up on the damage means you'd probably kill slower than just spending an extra 100 SP

but I can see some umbral speedclears that might prefer UGE

[mild carbon]

I keep my healer ult up high, but just cause free heals

[frigid vector]

if you're running gilb (or double vanguards) I don't see much of a point for UGE

if you're running antal/ardelia at P0 it's legit

at P1+ then only ardelia really

[mild carbon]

running Antal

[frigid vector]

and at P4+ you don't need it at all

unless you want like

20s rotations to ult

[mild carbon]

didn't get the pulls to upgrade Ardelia so most of my team comp is centered around Antal doing the heals

[frigid vector]

tbh you can just play out the comp and see if it's a problem

I think pre P1

antal probably wants it

[mild carbon]

the other choice is going for gear comp, some of the new ones are fun looking

[frigid vector]

as otherwise you're looking at like 800 SP rotations

which is nuts

but again, only for cold starts

[mild carbon]

I think in that case I might go with the Xiranflow set

electrical + battle dmg, plus set bonus is for consuming which is what Fangyi does

[amber vapor]

They're going the hoyo route with 6 weeks patches with two parts

I wouldn't mind longer patches with just two banners, as long as there is some content to do

[mild carbon]

yeah trying flowset and it's slightly faster than my old setup, even with a p0 Fangyi

[daring dove]

I'd personally prefer a 24 day new character release cycle, 1.2 would of been perfect for that. Sadly it didn't happen & I assume next patch they'll play catch up. I assume the odd patch numbers will be 34 days & the even patch numbers will be 49?

I'd like once they sort whatever jank that happened in 1.2 out. if we did one new character in the in the odd 34 day patches.

[drifting quest]

7 5 7 5 might be their intended schedule

in which case a 2 - 1 banner release schedule might be nice

[daring dove]

Then 2 new characters in the even 49 day patches as my personal preference

[drifting quest]

3.5 - 3.5 - 5 week banners

but it could be whatever they want

[daring dove]

I'm kind of ok personally with us just getting 1 new character every patch cycle, but not if we're going to keep having 49 day patches. Only if we're going to have 34 day ones. Then maybe on anniversary (new region) we have a 49 day patch with 2 characters releasing every 24 days. But like you said they'll just do whatever they want ultimately.

[drifting quest]

it'd be ideal if so yes

but it would be less profitable so odds of it happening are lower

[dry kindle]

They were already behind schedule with nef fight so maybe not

[amber vapor]

Oh fr they said that?

I wonder how much backend actually goes into this game given how every patch tends to have a new mechanic

[dry kindle]

There was meant to be a playable cutscene

Gets mentioned somewhere in the IGN interview

[honest hill]

No way

You didn't whel enough

[bronze plume]

this is why theres 0 content smh

[dry kindle]

Where's your 5+6 smh

[honest hill]

I no whel

[bronze plume]

aint it 6+7?

[honest hill]

Because most whels quit during leva banner duhhh

[bronze plume]

damn

[honest hill]

yep

Cooked

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[honest hill]

ur the biggest whel

[bronze plume]

sod off

[dry kindle]

Whel

[honest hill]

Shush

You talk too much for a whel

[bronze plume]

youre both whales

[honest hill]

What did I do

[bronze plume]

exist

[honest hill]

wow that hurts

[bronze plume]

womp

[honest hill]

beef you suck

I even like beef

[bronze plume]

womp womp

[honest hill]

Is that all you're going to say

Always hating on me

[bronze plume]

wompity womp

[honest hill]

You my hater

[bronze plume]

wompity womp of the wompity womp

bro doesnt understand wompity language

[honest hill]

Keep going

[bronze plume]

i was apologizing

[honest hill]

I accept your apology

[bronze plume]

wompity womping!

you should try speaking some wompity language

[honest hill]

learning another language is hard

[bronze plume]

youll never know until you try

[honest hill]

True

[thorn shore]

homelanduh diddled me wife and stole my son

womp womp

[bronze plume]

and you ruined it

smh

[lost raft]

for crush, Arts Intensity always wins over Physical DMG in gear? Or is there a point where having one of the 4 pieces be Phyisical DMG is better than going full 4 piece AI?

[signal palm]

if they have many other sources of damage that aren't physical statuses then phys dmg gear may be better, for example endmin

double flint endmin can give you a higher ceiling than double stabilizer due to her ultimate, and the fact that her only physical status is crush so the 250% multiplier from swordmancer effect will always trigger together with her battle skill, and phys dmg% applies to all of her damage including if you use her as controlled operator (finisher)

[lost raft]

but if 80% of the damage comes from the "Crush" then Arts all the way, right?

[signal palm]

you'll usually only see damage share like that with critfish panda speedruns, for endmin crush isn't anywhere near 80% of her damage share

do u use panda or endmin

[lost raft]

panda

usualy by the time I have his ult, the enemies are dead

so it's more like a finishing thing than an actual dmg source

[signal palm]

yeah for panda ai is better because it not only boosts crush which is a larger share of his damage compared to endmin but also his lift + knockdown in ultimate and lift in battle skill, and also boosts the stagger those statuses deal

[lost raft]

a pitty there is not a good STR arts chest piece yet xD

[signal palm]

also aethertech is a convenient set for him since he applies so much vulnerability

[signal palm]

str?

[lost raft]

STR, AGL, WIL, INT

[signal palm]

oh yeah

[lost raft]

I use him with Swordmancer

The ones consuming SP are Ember and Chen

[signal palm]

swordmancer is good too, especially for the stagger and the ult gain chest sometimes

oh no ember

[lost raft]

YUP

xD

[signal palm]

u dont have both lifeng and pog right

[lost raft]

I have pogchamp but not lifeng

[signal palm]

oof

[lost raft]

Nah

not interested

I'm doing good

[signal palm]

yeah that team will still clear everything in the game easily

[lost raft]

and it's fun and safe to play too

(for me)

[signal palm]

hg allergic to actual difficulty partially because of the average playerbase iq

me when people are still pasting blueprint codes into the name box

[lost raft]

DMG vs Stagger is the same as Physical DMG right? (equation-wise)
So if half dapan crushes are on non-stagered enemies and the other half are on staggered, which one often wins?

[signal palm]

i'm not actually sure, this is one of the things I'm also interested in knowing
but if the wiki page on damage calculation is correct and the words are interpreted literally then yes I think it is part of the dmg bonus % bracket, since the stagger multiplier can only be 1 or 1.3 according to the wiki

[lost raft]

so having one of the other depends on when the team buffs like Pogchamp ult is ready, no?
but the dmg shouldn't be too much diferent I take

[lost raft]

since you are a dapanglazer, do you use pog?

[signal palm]

i run the stagger swordmancer armor so i never crush on boss unless it's staggered

pog is a must for panda since he gives panda 24% atk and 24 arts intensity if you use his ultimate correctly

[lost raft]

and do you skill with pog?

[signal palm]

I breach, then pog cs, then pog's ultimate after cs and never before because his ultimate gives 5 stacks of shieldguards, whenever someone on the team does a physical status they trigger the shieldguards once and get one stack of fervent morale which is 8% atk and 8 arts intensity, pog cs can also trigger the shieldguards which will steal stacks from the team

and then I use da pan ult + bs so he gets three (max) stacks of fervent morale

for me the remaining two stacks are given to chen/lifeng for chen ult and/or lifeng finisher most of the time

[lost raft]

I never have enough SP or Vul stacks to breach and crush...

[signal palm]

might be because you have ember, but she does still apply vul and you do have panda so maybe it's a rotational issue

[lost raft]

could be, or maybe is because I'm crushing on CD?

like the moment panda has his combo ready I try to crush

[signal palm]

u dont crush without breach right

[lost raft]

yes I do xD

literaly I run out of SP

if I breach and crush

[signal palm]

that is why you are missing so much damage

breach is the single most impactful damage bonus for the monophysical team, 90% or more of team damage is usually placed after breach

[lost raft]

well, I got the trimed on Nefarith, with Food but xD

gimme a few mins

[signal palm]

do u have panda p5

rip

your team is pog/ember/chen/panda right

[potent hornet]

anyone else catch the chain of protocol clears trying to outdo phys but can't

on reddit

[signal palm]

huh

[potent hornet]

basically someone was showcasing how fast the phys DaPan team can do material protocol spaces. so other people started to show their speed clears for other teams, one person was like hur dur a wallet that got p5p5 Feng can do it faster (it didn't).

the DaPan clears were nuking in like 6.2 seconds

the funny thing is its almost mostly because they didn't put a crapton of time into an ult scene for DaPan so its super quick, other part is that the phys team is just good like that

Like LR clears could be pretty quick as well if her ult startup wasn't so long lol

[obsidian hollow]

Da Pan makes no sense to me

[signal palm]

what do you mean by that

[obsidian hollow]

Random panda in a world of animals turned human

[potent hornet]

well we have antal as well

so we have examples of some being more animal than humanoid

[obsidian hollow]

I guess

[signal palm]

hes built different

[potent hornet]

i'm hoping we get some more like that

[drifting quest]

All characters in the game, except most likely Endmin, are animals turned into people

if we are being technical, at least

[dry kindle]

Endmin penguin

Rock penguin ggez

[obsidian hollow]

yes but arent Antal and Da Pan the only ones of their kind currently in game

[drifting quest]

If you're talking about playable chars who are 'more animal than human' then it's only those two in Endfield right now

[obsidian hollow]

npcs in the world?

[gritty olive]

theres like twenty in arknights

[drifting quest]

there's at least one npc, iirc

[gritty olive]

but no npcs like that in endfirld

i think

[dry kindle]

Antal is just a sarva

[amber vapor]

Oh so like WuWa "hype moments and aura"

[dry kindle]

Idk what dapan is

[obsidian hollow]

Usa

Ursa*

is what he is on his profile

[drifting quest]

He's an Ursus

the race not the country but that isnt as much of a point of confusion in Endfield

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

no your sus

[signal palm]

ursus mentioned

[drifting quest]

IM SO GLAD WE ARE NOT BACK IN SAMI

[signal palm]

among us

[drifting quest]

MAKE HIM PLAYABLE THOUGH

KURANTAKNIGHTS NEEDS A BOOST

[gritty olive]

kurantaknights is a greedy bitch

[bronze plume]

my little pony

[dry kindle]

Sami in endfield what could go wrong

[potent hornet]

his head is throwing me

[drifting quest]

its a mini collab

skins/icon/profile

[potent hornet]

its so tinyu

[bronze plume]

future

trust

[gritty olive]

but even more greedier than kurantaknights is liberiknights

[drifting quest]

we got one unit in the past like 3 years

sobbing

liberi got like

[gritty olive]

liberknights got lucked out in is6 due to raidian and chetto mod

[bronze plume]

wheres my Caprinaeknights

[drifting quest]

a bunch

new liberi in people a people

[gritty olive]

petramknights gaming

guess the only petram

easy to guess

[bronze plume]

man fuck yall guys

r6knights

[drifting quest]

damn liberi have like triple the unit count

[obsidian hollow]

Ok, so Da Pan is the same race as Snowshine. Is it common for this to be the case?

[drifting quest]

yes

[obsidian hollow]

Do we have a Savra other than Antal?

[bronze plume]

its just how they are genetically mutated due to originium

[gritty olive]

both lungs

[bronze plume]

not in endfield that i know of

[gritty olive]

two in arknights

12f and rangers

[drifting quest]

Archosauria are a race where all the males are anthropromorphic and most* of the females are human

[gritty olive]

12f being lowlights fursona

[drifting quest]

or its probably most males too

[gritty olive]

i have never seen a male archosaurian which doesnt have a crocodile face

[bronze plume]

12f HIS AURA ITS TRIPLING

[gritty olive]

feels the aura

[potent hornet]

i'm down for a croc operator

[bronze plume]

3 LINGS SHOW UP

[obsidian hollow]

I have almost no OG Arknights knowledge

[bronze plume]

get it

[drifting quest]

future proofing comment

[bronze plume]

tripling

[gritty olive]

wait for it to turn ass

[bronze plume]

do you want to see the best operator ever

[drifting quest]

there's only one female archosauria with prominent animal traits too

[obsidian hollow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gritty olive]

its the ra2 boss

[potent hornet]

oh is Yvonne supposed to be a croc?

[bronze plume]

no bias this is peak

[gritty olive]

she is a wyvern

[drifting quest]

misty memory literally just picked up on my playlist

[potent hornet]

gotcha

[bronze plume]

W

[drifting quest]

wyvern vs dragon(eastern) vs dragon(western)

try not to get lost

[potent hornet]

figured with the fat tail that might be the thing for them

[drifting quest]

fraud unit spotted

[bronze plume]

get the new figure for me

[bronze plume]

sybau

[potent hornet]

do they follow the 2 legs and wings model for wyvern?

[gritty olive]

better quality

[drifting quest]

im a professional hoolheyak hater

sorry

[gritty olive]

the wyverns in arknihgts dont have wings

same goes for dracos and lungs

[bronze plume]

oh

hool yeah who cares

thought you meant eyja

[drifting quest]

cough rathalos cough

[gritty olive]

shuhs

[bronze plume]

tbf

actually

[gritty olive]

https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Vouivre

[bronze plume]

nope hes a wyvern

[potent hornet]

yerp

[bronze plume]

my greatest achievement in gacha history

will be having p0 swire the elegant wit

[potent hornet]

was that a unit that was hard to get?

[bronze plume]

no

[drifting quest]

i dont even want to check my pots

[bronze plume]

its just any other non limited 6 star

[drifting quest]

i know it will make me mald at the eyja2 shaped hole in my roster

[bronze plume]

the insane part about it

[gritty olive]

limited banners in arknights have 35 35 30 rates

[bronze plume]

is this

[potent hornet]

woof

[gritty olive]

so not necessarily unless you really want her

[gritty olive]

m18 eyja or fraud

[bronze plume]

shes M9 lvl 90 max module on both eyjas

[gritty olive]

[bronze plume]

og eyja isnt max pot tho cuz kernel banner

[drifting quest]

the p2 vivi came from an off rate on I want to say exu2 lemuen banner

[bronze plume]

damn

i havent gotten many of the recent limited

ive kinda turned into a lim banner andy

and like only get the non limited cuz im chalked

[drifting quest]

virtuosa banner was the only one i went to 300 on

[bronze plume]

i havent gone to 300 on any

im chalked af

[drifting quest]

i got ragebaited on repeat until i swiped to spark nearl

[bronze plume]

closest was 260 on eyjas banner

but i got max pot and dipped

im sad i didnt get the ave collab 6 star on my main

i should swiped and played more man

my most wanted character is still thornsalter

[drifting quest]

i pulled him

ive not used him in

months

i do random clears for new events and he dodges me there

[gritty olive]

i have thornsalter m9 and my last usage is him using s1 on the annihilation for exodus

[drifting quest]

and then for the rest of it i just never use him

[bronze plume]

when are we getting limited operator selection pack bro

ill take it

for $75 plz

[pure spoke]

No

[drifting quest]

they would tempt me so badly

ill prob get W and Wis in 6mo at least

[bronze plume]

are those all the characters you are missing?

[drifting quest]

yeah

[bronze plume]

how tf do you not have lez

[drifting quest]

i didnt get her before she went kernel

[bronze plume]

nor swire wtf

man

[drifting quest]

she dodges my recruitments

[bronze plume]

fuck kernel banner bro

[drifting quest]

you want to know whats funnier

[bronze plume]

WHY IS EYJA NOT RECRUITABLE

[gritty olive]

same goes for angelina

[drifting quest]

trying to get lucilla

[gritty olive]

i might swipe 30 usd for her

[bronze plume]

for who ange?

[gritty olive]

second best crusher

[drifting quest]

im tempted to swipe for one or both the selectors

[gritty olive]

yeah

[lost raft]

@signal palm u there?

[drifting quest]

blaze2 or el banana from standard
prob like eunec for RA3 off kernel

[gritty olive]

but im gonna save that money for six monhtlies for closure instead

[bronze plume]

im still missing alot

[bronze plume]

i might just skip wang tbh

i am NOT missing getting closure and kalter

[drifting quest]

wangsadel skip

[bronze plume]

man everytime i go to ak now and i have like 5 op im like thats not even 1 pull

then i remember ak isnt dogwater and 1 op is 180

[drifting quest]

im poor again so felt

prob forced to skip nasti but might try grab titi

[signal palm]

yeah

[lost raft]

the video is almost ready, gimme a moment to upload it to streamable

[signal palm]

kk

[pure spoke]

No chen. Bricked account

[gritty olive]

did gnosis release after kalstit

im just hoping he drops in recruit instead

[lost raft]

the try is with food tho, but You'll probably see with more investment it's doable without food.

[bronze plume]

thats the opposite of bricked

[pure spoke]

Real gamers have chen and her p2w skin

[drifting quest]

nearly a full year later

[lost raft]

@signal palm https://streamable.com/imkq26

[signal palm]

nice, you do want to be breaching before you crush though, you will do more damage that way

i'm pretty sure you have enough sp to do 4/4/4 breach/crush/crush

[lost raft]

where? xDD I literaly can't find a place to breach and crush in that rotation

[pure spoke]

Its breaching exile!

[signal palm]

you breach once you hit 4 stacks the first time, build 4 stacks again then crush

[lost raft]

btw since pog doesn't have arts, his breach won't be that strong, no?

[signal palm]

it's still significant even without arts, you should at least have some arts intensity on him

[signal palm]

https://streamable.com/1s8n4d this shows what i meant by placing your damage after breach and distributing pog ult stacks correctly earlier

[lost raft]

but then no ult, and no ult means no SP D:

gonna give it a try...

[signal palm]

breach is worth it even in that scenario where you may be a little sp starved, I noticed you had lots of leftover sp after your first crush in your video

[lost raft]

not in general endgame tho, where we start without energy

[signal palm]

breach is always worth it for monophys, even if you have to go full ult gain build for pog for sp reasons

it's straight up 24% more damage right now with breach usually being the only multiplier in the increased damage taken (fragile) bracket, unless you run endmin in which case it's an additional 0.20 while the crystals are active

[lost raft]

OKey, the crush went up to 280K xD

I think I won a few seconds, tho the SP economy... was kinda "XD"

[signal palm]

you are also more sp hungry since you are using ember as controlled op, try using chen since she's the general best option unless you use endmin as well

[lost raft]

I parried the hand slam (the one that captures me in the video) with Ember, so I had 1 extra Vulnerability

[lost raft]

ember is the one helping with stagger xD

[signal palm]

you can use swordmancer to fix stagger, ember is very sp inefficient compared to running teams comprised of the standard 5 (pog+lifeng+chen+endmin/panda) and sometimes you will need to use an entire extra sp bar or even two just to do the same thing

you lose a lot of team damage if you don't place damage after breach even if you might suffer a bit on the sp side

[signal palm]

iana's guide has a ton of useful information on phys team if you've read it, it should be in pinned messages in this channel

[lost raft]

yeah Ive read it

I think I'm getting the gasp of it, but it's not easy... tho I did got the Triming without Food so... that's gotta mean someething xDD

gimme a few minutes

lemmer record again

[signal palm]

no worries, there's also another funny but potentially terrorist team setup that may work for you, replacing ember with endmin essentially
I have no idea what it will look like but it will probably make things easier in terms of sp availability

endmin has some nice team buffs which may help with crush damage and chen ultimate if you place those after she consumes crystals

[lost raft]

@signal palm it took a few tryes, but I made it xD

You gonna like it xD

@signal palm https://streamable.com/d22ydb

[signal palm]

yeah that's pretty good, nice

what recording software do you use, its higher quality than mine

[lost raft]

OBS at 2k, downscaled to 1080 with Premiere

and then exported at MP4 with 15Mbps codec

what really sells the quality is the Codec, which is how much is the size of each frame buffer, it helps with videos having less big squares for pixels when fast stuff happens on screen, but that also increases the weight of the file.

[signal palm]

ah thanks

[lost raft]

thanks to you for the tips xDD

[signal palm]

how do you adjust the codec

[lost raft]

I only know in premier

when exporting media, if you scroll down you'll see Bitrate Settings

select VBR. 1 pass and adjust both sliders to 15

[signal palm]

adobe premiere?

[lost raft]

if you want more info search what is Bitrate, that's one of the keys for high quality video

[lost raft]

ye

[signal palm]

dont use that unfortunately, just obs

[lost raft]

you should have something in other software too, search for Bitrate options

Ah, yeah, OBS records at raw xDD

they are very heavy and sometimes websites modify the bitrate of the file, and they do a poor job with it.
Maybe you can get your hands at DaVinci editor, it's free

||or you can sail the 7 seas, YARR||

🤫

[signal palm]

i see, thanks for the info

[lost raft]

btw what gear do you recomend pog?

should I ditch forntiers?

[sturdy hill]

AI

[lost raft]

well, some Energy recharge, no?

[sturdy hill]

normally u would just use support pog

[signal palm]

i run full intensity, but generally it's intensity on both kits with ult gain on the armor, gloves, or both depending on how much efficiency you need for your rotation

[lost raft]

so yeah, ditch frontiers xD

[signal palm]

yes frontiers is inferior to intensity build in most setups due to damage % bracket being very diluted, meanwhile breach is currently the only multiplier in the dmg taken % bracket with the exception of endmin's crystals

this is what I run since I use ultimate gain meds (perplexing medication) to fix efficiency rather than actually using gear, but ult gain gear is what most people do

[lost raft]

what about dis?

[signal palm]

that's also an option if you need that much ultimate gain and also the cooldown on combo skill reduction

personally i haven't run into issues yet with his combo skill cooldown so it's up to you

[lost raft]

would it be possible to trigger both a combo skill when breaching and when crushing?

or the CD can't be low enough?

[signal palm]

nvm i misunderstood the wording there

yes it's possible, depends on the rotation and maybe the gear (cs cd reduction)

these are the most common setups i see on pog, swordmancer set is for stagger application if you need it

[lost raft]

it's not possible to have pog combo in front of dapan, no? so we don't have to wait for dapan face to leave the screen to trigger pogs combo

[signal palm]

if you need even more ultimate gain you can also run this, unless you absolutely need the cd reduction of qingbo set

[signal palm]

with 4/4/4 yes panda's combo will always pop up before pog cs, i usually wait personally, as you could see here #theorycrafting message

since panda cs trigger is 4 vstacks while pog cs trigger is consuming those for either breach/crush

[lost raft]

what about breaching 3 stacks? is the dps loss that much?

[signal palm]

3 stacks is workable if you really are that short on sp (considering you use ember) but it is around 4-5% less damage depending on how much intensity you have, and also remember than 3 stack breach lasts 24s while 4 stack lasts 30 so sometimes you might need to worry about being unable to crush twice with 3 stack breach

[lost raft]

Noted, tyvm for all the tips and stuff 😄

[outer ermine]

@edgy elk u dont have rossi right

[edgy elk]

lol no

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

i'm too broke to pull everything. cryo only

life of a dolphin kek

u can fund me

[outer ermine]

smh, ight

[outer ermine]

2k ginseng, meat, slug

🤝

wanted to test something, ill do it later ig

[signal palm]

no problem, phys team is the only team i know anything about xd

[ocean turret]

ello

[signal palm]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jashinchan-jashinchan-dropkick

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

is p5 sundering better than p0 repid ascent?

[signal palm]

yes

[ocean turret]

what pot does rapid ascent out dmg p5 sundering??

theres no way iits at p5

[signal palm]

not sure but yeah its not at p5

sundering is easy to p5 anyways

i use gm with yinglung because greedy damage farm

[ocean turret]

fair enough

[signal palm]

p5 ascent is for the real whales

wait how much % gain vs cost is that

[ocean turret]

p5 gm still better than p5 ascent right?

[signal palm]

not sure, can depend on the rotation but iirc p5 rascent is as good or very slightly better than p5 gm but it can vary

[ocean turret]

i think ascent is more reliant on sm set to get faster stagger

[outer ermine]

i did not mean to do that was like tf i staggered

but that removes the need for 1 fish and endmin bs for stagger delays the rot tho

[edgy elk]

ahh alesh midair strike

[nova lance]

is slab the bis for fangyi?

[outer ermine]

i can sub 17 w/o sacrificing dmg but more fish rng

or too much dmg b4 stagger i wanna go home and test

[edgy elk]

do it on mobile, now

[outer ermine]

i dont make it even w 2 gold

💀 i think i need to go home and grind my luck is good 2night

more consistent now and can endbs earlier

[gritty olive]

cc -aspd risk in endfield

[edgy elk]

do ur artifices

[outer ermine]

on reset

[edgy elk]

oh it didn't reset for u yet?

i thought u were CN server

[outer ermine]

could have killed actually if i endmin bs b4 ult i had the sp

im na smh why u think im complaining im behind

[edgy elk]

you're na and u haven't added me yet

[outer ermine]

addge me

[edgy elk]

i thought for sure u were cn or else i woulda spam f request u by now

[outer ermine]

i just post on bili cuz yt always strikes my vids w music im using

[edgy elk]

wats ur code

oh this means i can finally read ur bio

[outer ermine]

6693209261

[edgy elk]

p5...lae???

bet ur a day1 whel

[outer ermine]

i pulled for mats

[edgy elk]

addged

[dry kindle]

Whel

[noble tapir]

Pulled for mats is crazy lol

[outer ermine]

p5 yvonne whel

[bronze plume]

whales are a different breed

just remind them of weapon banner

and they crumble

if they dont they are a leviathan

[edgy elk]

-# deleted msg: i hate to interrupt u mid speech

somehow i have received 🐳 status too

lore accurate killer whale, real dolphin but mistaken as whales

[bronze plume]

i probably am as whale

[outer ermine]

thats enion

my wp luck is decent

[bronze plume]

i have all characters and all sigs at least p0

but like dolphin at best

im just riding on the high of average 6 star pity being like 32

[tight haven]

omg

[dry kindle]

Ol whel

[warped sorrel]

is rossi best team is just fangyi slop

[bronze plume]

no

fangyi rossi is just rossi wheelchair

unless its p5p5

in which case its just 2 whaled characters

p0 both is niche af

[warped sorrel]

[bronze plume]

i mean you can use it, its just like

yaknow

[warped sorrel]

yea i have tried
it doesnt feel very good but clear very fast

rossi art deal really good dmg but very curse with all that vul 4 stack with 0 usage

and hybrid is just worse

i hate you HG

[bronze plume]

are you... not using gilberta in the team?

[warped sorrel]

i did

[bronze plume]

youre chilling then more vuln stacks = more arts suspect from her ult

[warped sorrel]

this is my first time hearing this

gilb is just too good omg

[dry kindle]

...

🗿

[bronze plume]

read yo kits gang

[dry kindle]

P2 doubles it

Mildly funny

[bronze plume]

melon is not

getting any pots in his life

[warped sorrel]

Beef is right

[bronze plume]

p1 zfy

bro started at the bottom and is still at the bottom

[warped sorrel]

she is a mistake im promise

[bronze plume]

from frostnova (shes dead)
to the basic i love you women uwu (L bozo)
to the genshinification of a sui proxy (genshin lmao)

[bronze plume]

if you where a boxer your name when you come out into the ring would be the Ltaker

[real mist]

do we have a new docs after iana quit

[bronze plume]

naur

[warped sorrel]

i will have my redemption act trust

shonen

[bronze plume]

Melon Alter will arrive soon

[outer ermine]

ask #team-build

[dry kindle]

We got clowns

It worksTM

[cinder oxide]

No phys or Yv yet thou but those can use old pin for now

[sturdy hill]

works™

[bronze plume]

it really does show the lack of any moderation in this channel

granted its not like its ever active so

[sturdy hill]

make sense

[bronze plume]

clown doesnt even have a 50 page rossi guide wtf

smh

[true cargo]

I don’t understand how zhuang p1 lets her cheat 100sp, since ideally you are getting 3 stacks per skill usage

[dry kindle]

Energy go brr

[true cargo]

How does it help for antal/ardelia?

It’s just one stack at the start of fight

[dry kindle]

And that blade lasts for however long

Its 18/24 energy for free

[true cargo]

It’s like 6 more energy than if you didn’t had it no?

[thorn shore]

per bs

[grand lagoon]

she got kickstart and she could get 4 in her first BS

[bronze plume]

more swords = more energy on battle skill cast = faster ult

[waxen knoll]

did Rossi get a gear update this patch or nah not really?

[sterile moat]

No update

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

weekly reset in 2h, wuling bills ready

fish a sub17 by the time i wake up or fraud

[outer ermine]

if i dont get atleast 2 upgrades today im hitting u

[honest hill]

No upgrades for you today Hifumi

[honest hill]

Nuh uh

Keep farming u fraud

[warped sorrel]

anyone know rhodagn hp

[dry kindle]

The wiki

[teal pawn]

I just wait Maygi for builds

[edgy crater]

time to hit another guranteed

[outer ermine]

its been 3 weeks i need this

[edgy crater]

artif more

[honest hill]

time to work overtime to whel for ur catalysts

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-16817230695535296570

[mild carbon]

Antal's improvisor skill doesn't seem to activate with Fangyi force of nature skill

Tried this in a few places and never saw her health go up

[nova lance]

whats fangyi rotation with antal instead of gilb?

[limpid rock]

antal first to apply Focus, then perlica (which triggers Antal's CS)
after that you just forget antal until you need his Focus again

[nova lance]

do i put a fangyi bs between perli and fangyi cs?

[honest hill]

ur such a fraud

[main nova]

isnt the timing should be before u ult

or probably around perlica rotation right before you use fangyi skill

still waste alot of sp tho

[mild carbon]

My understanding is antal is a passive skill, so it should always activate on Amp, fangyi is battles kill to get amp

And antal obviously is ultimate for amp

[river scroll]

Antal amp is low tho, it's sad amount

[mild carbon]

The amount isn't as important as the auto heals it provides

Which is what fangyi should do with the passive, apply Amp, but doesn't seem to

Those two skills aren't meshing and my understanding is they should

[frozen tide]

Its not that bad just seems bad compared to like xaihi which isn't fair

[drifting quest]

To ask the obvious since I cant test right now
It's not on cooldown
It's actually done with amp active
You have tested just fangyi amp, just antal amp, and both active cases
You have had hp missing to heal
Etc.

You haven't procced it on combo or something and not noticed

[mild carbon]

Correct, I've noticed when antal's Amp is up, my skill damage heals, but when fangyi Amp is up, it does not

[lost raft]

To be honest, I appreciate more that you took the time to help me with the build and rotation rather than just telling me to "Stop playing X character" or some stuff like that.

[summer narwhal]

So say I'm trying to Artifice AI, but there's Green, Red and Orange component gear, is there a difference in terms of it's success rate?

I ask because I used a ton of Green Component gear

[lost raft]

if there is anything above 41, you may get a chance, else just use green components they are cheaper

[summer narwhal]

Stats all being equal obviously

[summer narwhal]

That was the mentality until I went 20/20 on AI Gloves (Pog)

So maybe it was just bad RNG

[drifting quest]

Only thing that matters is if the base stat is equal or higher

[lost raft]

bad RNG, I asure you

[summer narwhal]

That's what I thought

[drifting quest]

Its better to use xiranite gear where possible due to being cheaper

[summer narwhal]

Thanks, I was hoping there was nothing hidden in there

I did

[lost raft]

I had to go to ~20/20 too even when using this

And these are often "Good match"

[summer narwhal]

Gross

[frozen tide]

I want a redeemer seal irl

Looks dope close up

[lost raft]

"Good match" my arse, I tell ya

[frozen tide]

Sick jade thingy

[drifting quest]

Its a literal seal

Or stamp

[frozen tide]

Yeah

And it looks sick

[edgy crater]

its expensive

[summer narwhal]

Oh it's like Essences where it's "High" and it still takes 20 to +1 a stat

[frozen tide]

Its still a chance

You can have 99 percent chance success and fail 5 times in a row or have 2 percent success chance and get it twice in a row

[summer narwhal]

True

Wish we could do something with old gear

Like old Artificed gear

[frozen tide]

Yeah

[summer narwhal]

Maybe get something back for it

[frozen tide]

If you could scrap it for half the catalysts used or smth

Would be nice

[summer narwhal]

Yeah, that would be nice

And purple essences

[frozen tide]

Purps can be sold ig

[summer narwhal]

I have so many of those, selling isn't worth it

[frozen tide]

Just for dogshit price

[gritty olive]

is it weird that im simming that lupine scarlet is like 4% better than glorious

[summer narwhal]

That's all?

And is that P0 Lupine vs P5 GM?

[sterile moat]

Depends on your rotation?

[summer narwhal]

I don't even know how you math that

[gritty olive]

full rotation

baseline team has a lot of atk and dmg which saturates the difference of lupine and glorious

[drifting quest]

Weap gaps are like

So varied

Team, content, rot

All can cause like huge gaps

[sterile moat]

Doesnt say a lot? Lupine favours fast rotations heavily

[frozen tide]

I reckon this is true as it helps support my gm propaganda

Glory to glorious memory

[ashen smelt]

https://youtu.be/9zLentmUhOo

Was this the hub in beta?
Probably gonna get this in future patch since the hub is recovering.

[drifting quest]

There's one in the photo event

Lobby theme plays on dijiang

[gritty olive]

this is whta im currently getting

Ltr

[drifting quest]

Blues with you is more a mumu theme than Kristen theme too

[gritty olive]

only 10 base difference, ok atk% marginal but theres outside atk buffs

[ashen smelt]

Ouhhhhhhhhhh..
We are getting mumu in endfield let's gooooooo

[gritty olive]

and the dmg% is ""easily"" offset

[drifting quest]

Is this rossi hc

[gritty olive]

yessir

[drifting quest]

Makes sense then

[gritty olive]

my next exam is on may17-18

[drifting quest]

GM's best case and Lupine's worst case

[sterile moat]

hc?

[gritty olive]

tc probs

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/119sxiIymwbF-eA3JLMWDr1MMA3Cqk7cmlfgpe7gQoBA/edit?gid=706701141#gid=706701141

quite bleak when the team im testing this on is rossi endmin akekuri perlichan

i just realized that the lupine stacks didnt get considered properly

[sterile moat]

Yea

The moment i saw the ending time i know its wrong

Lupine stacks will drop

[gritty olive]

what?

i dont understand you

what i mean is the dmg% buff from the lupine stacks is coded as (cell>0) * dmg%

it should be cell * (cell >0) * dmg%

this falls more in line now

so like if i have 16 stacks, whats seen is just (16>0) * dmg% = dmg%, when it shouldve been 16 * dmg%

[sterile moat]

Is the timing including timestops?

[gritty olive]

hmmm

no actully

i assume that the timer only gets changed when the onfield unit does something

so non controlled skill combo and ult has 0 duration

unless otherwise specified

[sterile moat]

Hmm in actual tests does your lupine fall off?

The 16 stack buff

Because that rota looks like it will make lupine buff fall off to me

Aint no way you getting to akekuri ult without it dropping since i tested it before

[gritty olive]

ah the stacking assumes like average crit

i hate crit so much

[sterile moat]

Because imo

6 skill is the max

[gritty olive]

its our assumptions so

oh this is 300 toughness enemy

[sterile moat]

Going above 6 means it will 100% drop off

[gritty olive]

also endmin team

[sterile moat]

Even 6 is abit spicy

You have to modify rossi bs timing

Are you taking into account rossi bs passive ticking

Since those crits also count to lupine stacking

Lupine stacking window favours 5 skill average

6 is acceptable

7 and beyond is asking for it

[gritty olive]

what is this 6 and 7 youre mentioning

im out of th eloop

[sterile moat]

The number of skill used

Before lupine 20s buff falls

6 tends to be the max

[drifting quest]

Hypercarry

[sterile moat]

For it to finish under rossi ult

[gritty olive]

endmin has some damage

[gritty olive]

endmin gives back some sp

skill should always use like 100 sp but since theres crystals theres some refunds

[drifting quest]

If its endmin ake gilb

Lupine should be performing better

If I remember ill have a look after I nap

Been awake way too long

[gritty olive]

@drifting quest i fixed it for now

but any other weapons ill add?

[drifting quest]

Rascent 3rd is like

Theoretically okay

Ss 4th is miserable

[edgy crater]

box cutter?

[drifting quest]

Anything else is useless

Other stat sticks like GV are prob comparable enough to SS

[gritty olive]

funny that endmin has fucking grandvision

[drifting quest]

Aka never worth using to begin with

[sterile moat]

Hmm am i missing something here

How does rossi get combo when theres no vul stack

Rossi would have to bs first

[gritty olive]

endmin vuln + akekuri skill

[limpid tundra]

endmin gives vuln

[sterile moat]

Ah the endmin vul

[gritty olive]

endmin crushes = vuln

[drifting quest]

Crush with 0 vuln just applies 1 vuln

[limpid tundra]

(only if enemy has no vuln)

[gritty olive]

NOW WERE TALKING

#theorycrafting is getting rebuilt brick by brick

[limpid tundra]

why do i see so much rossi here

[drifting quest]

For every 1 TC discussion there are 99 non TC ones

[drifting quest]

Most incomplete unit by tc standards

[limpid tundra]

ic

[sterile moat]

Hmm i see that you dont apply bs wolven early so thats why your rossi stack can last

[drifting quest]

There's a huge backlog of stuff still to do for rossi

Because of her kit

[sterile moat]

Yea i can see why this rota heavily doesnt favour lupine now

Usually rossi gets wolven really fast and cycles through it by 6th skill

[sterile moat]

That rotation looks very interesting tho

I should give it a try later

[chilly bolt]

that's a big jump from p0 tp p5 glorious

[gritty olive]

i might have some incorrect shiz

[chilly bolt]

hmm the p0 page has 0 crit rate

but the p5 GM has 0.12 crit

[daring dove]

She has 97000 potential teams. She’s kind of like Gilberta & just works with almost anyone.

[gritty olive]

thats extra cr from dipes

[zinc blaze]

Has anybody tried maining ZF and Avy on the same team

[pure spoke]

Mi fu when

[outer ermine]

endmin pls crit

[feral heron]

me with both rossi and gilberta not knowing what team to build (or whether to pull running banners) because both are problematic with laev lol.

[trim cipher]

Is my Leek queen good enough?

I only didn't upgrade the last digit of first 2 lines of essence and the last digit of some gear.

[outer ermine]

missed 1 crit on rossi ult

[bronze plume]

unsurprisingly yes

[bronze plume]

its really bad

you need

so much sp

[outer ermine]

thats a first

[obsidian hollow]

did you use crowns tho?

[outer ermine]

didnt even see it hit

[ocean turret]

where u seen that?

oh nvm i thought its mifu

dang my eyes need sleep

[outer ermine]

😭

[bronze plume]

are you uhh

blind

[obsidian hollow]

Huh?, crowns show on that SS?

[swift onyx]

Yes..?

[obsidian hollow]

where?

[bronze plume]

left side

[outer ermine]

mfw m9

[bronze plume]

on the uhh

skills gang

[obsidian hollow]

I'm blind, yep

[swift onyx]

Green man

[dusk isle]

ikiz still using warp 🥀 zfy looks good

[dusk isle]

You snitched

[swift onyx]

Basically noone noticed, pookie
Its all good

Besides that
Want a bp for tmr event products? You can module them and copy paste if u want more of specific one

[dusk isle]

Do we know what the event products even are

[obsidian hollow]

phase one, Xiranite Gourds, phase two Jade Gourds

Xiranite Gourds are dead simple

[dusk isle]

Im assuming xiranite gourd is related to xiranite/heavy xira, how you make jade gourd?

[dusk isle]

Crazy

[swift onyx]

For everything at once

Fun

[obsidian hollow]

outpost's will produce more stockbills during the event

also add the special currency

recipies and items are temporary

[outer ermine]

might actually break 17

[dusk isle]

Hifu i wanted to ask you smth but i was helpbanned

How is -1:-1 timer treated

When should i start my own timer

[outer ermine]

in speedkill? it counts, but still do the "at 0:0 clear is...", depends on boss rn

rhod, dorito is still on fade in, load
nef is on recrisis

for pauses, when hp disappears, continue when ui shows

[honest hill]

green man is back

[dusk isle]

Sorry for asking again, but is fade in the first frame the black screen starts fading out or the last

[dusk isle]

the thing welcomes me back

[honest hill]

You're the hulk

[outer ermine]

last, starts when u can see something basically

[dusk isle]

Alr tanks sire

Wishing you all the crits

[honest hill]

whel for less time

[outer ermine]

i need 24 from rossi and 1 endmin ty

[honest hill]

all ur units p5p5 max artificed?

all with ginseng/jakub's?

[outer ermine]

have eveyrhting i need, last bit of artif wont make up for a missing crit

[honest hill]

u still need to fund me

[outer ermine]

2k ginseng, meat, slugs

getting slower

[edgy crater]

ur caffeine boost already expired

[outer ermine]

im getting the midair fs that i dont need more than the ult hit

[outer ermine]

5s loading times is godly

[honest hill]

u need better hardware

[dry kindle]

Pulling for p1 zfy was such a bad idea

70+ ember

Welp 40 till token surely I don't pull a zfy

[dusk isle]

Might as well go for p2 if you pull her early

[dry kindle]

"Early"

[drifting quest]

Just P5 in 450

or was it less

[outer ermine]

can i fucking crit

[potent hornet]

only if you forget to start the recording

[dry kindle]

Just p5 in 130

[drifting quest]

it only takes 6 pulls to p5

[dry kindle]

Time to cope mifu is second half

[drifting quest]

assumes mifu is even next patch

[edgy crater]

remember gg incident, 2 year in waiting list

[drifting quest]

there's units npc jailed for longer

5 years and 2 events

[dry kindle]

Surely

[drifting quest]

after gnosis alter, ratatos, cliffheart alter, silverash alter alter, arctosz, degenbrecher alter, scirius, silverash alter alter alter, courier alter, kjera alter, matterhorn alter, silverash alter alter alter alter maybe then they can release new npcs instead of monch

[dry kindle]

Or just eos

[drifting quest]

arknights 3

they said they wanted to expand the universe with more game types so maybe the answer is playable monch in a different game

[potent hornet]

Hoyo just needs to buy up all the other gatchas and drop a Ultra Mega Multiverse gacha game, One banner for each gachaverse, Each with their own type of currency to pull from

[outer ermine]

this mf always crits when i mess up w 2 stacks can we delete this mf

[drifting quest]

its desire sensor

[outer ermine]

grind for me its ez rot

[drifting quest]

$0.50 a rot deal

[outer ermine]

per rot, not attempt (if u dont stagger in time u cant do the full rot)

🤝

[drifting quest]

damn

[outer ermine]

https://youtu.be/8xPxXbmBo4Q
🤝 login i just need u to be at this speed for a few hrs until u get the crit

[dry kindle]

🗿

[bronze plume]

why is it just called ty shuo

[outer ermine]

gonna grind for me

[dry kindle]

Guess

[bronze plume]

idk thats why i ask

[outer ermine]

last attempt

[gritty olive]

du yaoye

[drifting quest]

du yaoye is similar length yeah

[gritty olive]

the arknights """"leaker"""" has been hallucinating her for years now

[drifting quest]

invitation to wine

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

who is the oldest npc jailed even

rat king? i guess

code of brawl

big bob maybe

[gritty olive]

big bob probs

[drifting quest]

both arent super realistic npc jail candidates though i guess

[gritty olive]

big bob is in is5 and is3 so

and he runs those shops

still in npc jail

[drifting quest]

moreso that its hard to imagine playable big bob

[gritty olive]

and mudrock supposedly isnt

[drifting quest]

maybe im misremembering big bob

i thought he had a cg where he's like

huge

i cant find any so prob the former

prob big bob then

if not a main story npc

something something guard copium

[bronze plume]

next cc is just

bigger bob trust

[drifting quest]

how did i forget the next cc theme already

wang event?

i think thats right

i remember thinking its gonna be so cringe with the mobs

[dry kindle]

Ra3 the real fear

[trail flume]

Swapped to full ult charge build on Laev and shes soo much stronger omg

[drifting quest]

IMSOHAPPY

except now i have to get m*dule blocks for ra modules

[dry kindle]

Only 3

Smh

[drifting quest]

its like

12

[dry kindle]

What

[drifting quest]

eunectes pepe passenger

and one im forgetting

nevermind just those 3

i dont own eunec yet so only 6 i guess

[dry kindle]

🗿

[trail flume]

Is Clannibal good for Wulfgard in Lae's team?

[drifting quest]

but im still missing mizuki's IS module

[dry kindle]

Useless

[drifting quest]

no, not really

[trail flume]

II dont really understand how Wulfgard deals damage

[drifting quest]

he doesnt

at least not without building around it where the roi is not great

[dry kindle]

Do my nte fishing for me

[gritty olive]

i use obj

[trail flume]

Is that game worth the time or is just more gacha slop

I already play this and Zenless

[gritty olive]

[dry kindle]

[upper dome]

dang double ak

[dry kindle]

It exists ig