theorycrafting

[bronze plume]

bam now i can search from me pings me

[bronze plume]

and have a infinite not 200 cringe ahh limit

[terse bridge]

Peak unlimited

[river ermine]

i would just take screenshot

tbh

[terse bridge]

Or just

#theorycrafting message

[river ermine]

ping reply also comes up on search mentions:

[wild rose]

Yeh that's best

[bronze plume]

now its thursday

[river ermine]

what if the channel is deleted

[bronze plume]

you celebrate because tc is gone

[river ermine]

true

[bronze plume]

theres nothing left to tc

we are free

[river ermine]

akeo eos

[bronze plume]

freefield

[terse bridge]

akeos

[waxen knoll]

do we have enough stock bill income to buy artifice every week rn or nah

[bronze plume]

yes

you always do

they literally make it so you do

[waxen knoll]

no i mean, ALL artifice

[forest lily]

beef who are you

[bronze plume]

idk what that question is meant to mean

[waxen knoll]

like, all the artifice catalyst

that's available in the shop

[wild rose]

State your identity at once

[bronze plume]

yes like all of them

[waxen knoll]

this is a stock bill income question

lol

[bronze plume]

i am a piece of omnipotent beef

[bronze plume]

yes

you can get enuf stock bills to buy all 100 artifice catalysts each week

[honest hill]

yeah you'll have enough to buy it all

[hearty tree]

All of them?

[honest hill]

yes

[bronze plume]

literally every update

if you do youre base right do the photos and diliveries

you can buy all catalysts

every week

[wintry shale]

whats fangyi's bis team comp?

[sterile moat]

Perlica arclight antal
Perlica arclight gilberta
Perlica rossi gilberta (whale tier)

[wintry shale]

thanks bro

[wispy shuttle]

all of them?

[bronze plume]

sigh...

[wispy shuttle]

haha jkjk

when i looked away from that convo the world was spinning

[drifting jewel]

might add this one too : perlica / alesh / gilberta

[proper walrus]

how do you beat any of the deep dive end game mode with yvonne gilb alesh xaihi team?

[lost jacinth]

For trimmed medals?

[quaint matrix]

so the server just pinged me so i can get 1/2 of a pull for connecting a discord? amazing

[drifting quest]

#discord-feedback to bitch not #theorycrafting

👍

[peak void]

by doing your best 🥳

[wintry shale]

this comp is for bosses im assuming?

oh nvm

world?

[chilly bolt]

it's just alesh over arclight

if you dont want to use arclight

not much difference

[ornate isle]

I'm building Antal for Fangyi, I'm assuming P5 OBJ arts will be better than a P0 Det Unit?
Electric/Heat DMG Dealt +22.4% on combo skill vs enemy suffers Arts DMG Taken +14.4% on Arts Burst.

Like idk if which effects are multiplicative or additive, or if on art burst is better than on combo and worth the smaller damage buff.

[drifting quest]

Dam taken is less diluted

More practical buff in a lot of cases

[ornate isle]

Fair what about ATK% gain? i.e. Stanza. I know I can't use it on him with Fangyi.

[drifting quest]

Differs a lot

[marsh grove]

Deto is better for antal if you are running perlica because when you use perlica bs antal follows up with combo skill and makes arts burst

wild wanderer for perlica in Fangyi comp

so you have both electric dmg and arts dmg taken

[ornate isle]

fair yeah I was running her with that. Do we know if different effect like that are multiplicative? so electric dmg X arts dmg taken because I would assume 2 buffs of electric DMG dealt would be additive.

[marsh grove]

i belive they dont stack

becasue it says

effect of the same name cannot stack

and i belive name is electric dmg dealt

[ornate isle]

fair I always thought it was the effet name on the weapon like Detonate: Imposing Champion

[marsh grove]

im not 100% sure

maybe it is the name for Detonate

now i really need to find info to clarify this

[kindred sorrel]

if you have p5 fangyi sig, is ww still worth running on perlica or would p5 oblivion work better

fangyi sig gives her a bunch of electric dmg % doesnt it?

[marsh grove]

if you have p5 sig it doesnt matter what perlica usses or even wahat whole team uses

joking aside yeah ww or oblivion are two choices only i guess

[kindred sorrel]

nvm, i guess fangyi sig is battle skill electric damage % which is a different multiplier than simply electric dmg %?

[river ermine]

this is correct btw

[kindred sorrel]

or do they stack

[river ermine]

its the same

everything that says [something] damage bonus is all the same bracket

[kindred sorrel]

ok so i could just run oblivion p5 on perlica instead since fangyi gets so much electric dmg % anyway

[river ermine]

it is an option yes

[marsh grove]

so its the weapon name? so ardelia weapon effect and xaihi deto stakcs/

[river ermine]

yes

[marsh grove]

ahh ok then i was wrong

[kindred sorrel]

saves me from having to level/etch ww

[river ermine]

ww only needs x/x/3 essence tbh its cheap anyways

you dknt need to level it either

[ornate isle]

at least we know now, I've been searching for answer to that question

[marsh grove]

yup

[main nova]

if u r at p5 just use oblivion fornperlica

moar damage

[thick terrace]

Would be funny if Contingency Contract have you do tower defense

[warped sorrel]

I will quit

[tulip plinth]

tower def without top view is.....

[outer ermine]

i did not just see 12s cold start zfy ult

[waxen knoll]

is pulling for LR sig given my roster and sigs extremely not worth it?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086681499496448/1496556050193715205/image.png?ex=69ea4fef&is=69e8fe6f&hm=67348249bdf9f9dfda153e0cee5ded18df2f49a510050c2cd974e0d1e6317410&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1282&height=426

also

is ult gain artifice for supports a must or naaah not really?

[rough inlet]

what set perlica use now?

[daring dove]

Not worth it at all, you can build a stronger / easier to play Rossi / Tangtang team.

I mean if you want it go for it

But it won't make your account stronger.

[waxen knoll]

does TT switch over to qingbo?

or only if she's a subDPS?

[frozen tide]

@forest lily @river ermine howd your guys' calcs come out?

[daring dove]

Depends on the team & potential for P1 Tangtang new set is pretty pointless as you're more likely to be limited by SP generation than Combo skill CD.

[waxen knoll]

your assumption is correct that i have P1 Tangtang

but how did you assume that

[daring dove]

I just wanted to point out a common pitfall of the set. It's great for P0 Tangrang though as it gives her a semi P1 CD at the loss of 15% ATK.

Just stick with this set honestly.

[waxen knoll]

uhhhh which gloves is the better glove

there's another gloves that's recommended for tangtang

forgot the name

Bonekrusha Gloves

[daring dove]

You can either use these since it gives you more flexibility to edit your gear but a bit less damage. the second image which gives you a bit more damage but locks you ability to more freely edit your set.

Either is fine.

The difference won't be huge regardless

Just depends on if you value flexbility or not.

[honest hill]

@forest lily How'd I do, took me 3 tries to learn rotation from your spreadsheet ig

idk if you can do 2 enhanced battle skills within gilberta ult

would it cancel it

[honest sky]

anyone got a sustain ember build?

[honest hill]

@sturdy hill come help if awake

[viscid crow]

any of the new gear better than previous stuff for laevatain

[daring dove]

What a hard mission to complete

[pearl cypress]

got to love the easy weeklies

[honest hill]

only redeemer chest gear

[soft tendon]

R space esc x 10

[frigid vector]

I believe it can last long enough if you clip the final bolt

so you get it in time for the final hit, then battle skill right after (since you're locked out until it ends anyways) and that should get the 2nd final hit to land within the time still

very finnicky though

man they need a proper

re-crisis speedrun mode or something

farming for tacticals is such a pain in the ass

[smoky quarry]

Been praying for times like this

[frozen tide]

I like the 3k etchspace thingy weekly

One zipline and a jump and theres 4k waiting

[honest hill]

I don't know when to do what because I can barely see what's happening

[frigid vector]

you'd likely need to change the rotation to get it, as I don't think you'd still manage it within arclight's ult window

so it'd mean having to sacrifice corrosion

actually considering

that it's only a few sunderblades

maybe if left to the end of arclight's ultimate it could work

[turbid elm]

Is for Perlica better the qinbo light armor or the other that has more arts intensity?

[drifting quest]

Qingbo Light Armour is the AI piece
Qingbo Heavy Armour is UGE

Which to run depends on team a bit but mostly the Light Armour AI piece

[turbid elm]

What is ai and uge?

[drifting quest]

Arts Intensity, Ult Gain Efficiency

[amber vapor]

Ok am I insane for doing Perlica BS -> Fangyi CS -> Fangyi BS -> Perlica CS - Fangyi BS instead of doing both CSs before one BS?

I get 4 blades instead of just 2

And then I have enough sp regen from Arclight and Alesh CSs

For another rot

[drifting quest]

its more SP intensive for minimal gain and is easier to misroute over time

[lime nacelle]

Why is Rossi's heat damage on her skill so inconsistent? I keep getting all sorts of values.

[drifting quest]

but if it works for you it works for you

[drifting quest]

Do you mean just Seq2, or including talent 2

both of them are still under the variance of crit

[lime nacelle]

Well, I dunno if that might be it.

I did consider it.

[drifting quest]

if they are clawmarked then talent 2 has a chance to be included

[lime nacelle]

Does the game just add it all up together?

[drifting quest]

sometimes yes sometimes no

[lime nacelle]

[turbid elm]

Ok thanks for the information 👍 👌

[amber vapor]

Fair but I'm honestly never stressing for SP nor mistiming my rots

[drifting quest]

if it works for you it works for you

[amber vapor]

unrelated by why tf are these doves rattling in my storm drains

[potent hornet]

the doves yearn for the drains

[dull oriole]

does perlica use qingbo or pulser in rossi team?

[drifting quest]

assuming its an arts burst setup pulser

[lime nacelle]

You'd only want Pulser if you have electrification during Rossi's burst, right? Meaning no Gilberta?

[drifting quest]

you'd have to give the full team for a better assessment since it'll maybe change if its not like gilb + non dps buffer 3rd 4th

[drifting quest]

electrification wouldnt interact with anything gilb is doing

you might be confusing electrification with electric infliction

[dull oriole]

rossi gil antal gil

no tt

[drifting quest]

then yeah, pulser

[lime nacelle]

Oh yeah.

[dull oriole]

wish they'd add loadouts so chars can use different armor sets in different teams 🥀

[lime nacelle]

Same.

[dull oriole]

does perl have uge breakpoint in zfy team

[drifting quest]

since you cant run stanza, no

you can run some uge if you want more ult frequency, or you can run a damage offpiece

[dull oriole]

ic

xiranite gloves + 3/3 qinbo?

how much of a damage difference is there between qinbo and pulser

[drifting quest]

a decent hit but not so large that dps perlica applications vanish

[dull oriole]

in rossi teams i mean

if i'm too lazy to swap the whole set every time

[drifting quest]

same case

its moreso that pulser is also a bit more AI and the cdr from qingbo doesnt matter much on that team

but the game is like

trivially easy

dont worry too much

[dull oriole]

true

ty

[amber vapor]

Hopium that this changes with CC

[drifting quest]

maybe but impossible to say

[smoky quarry]

opg m 0m

[forest lily]

this is good news, though against nef specifically you're gilb ulting at the wrong time

[honest hill]

yeah idk when to ult

[forest lily]

2 mins

[honest hill]

uh

[honest hill]

when should I exactly ult

[forest lily]

how built it your fangyi and the rest of your team

[honest hill]

also idk what the rot is during downtime

[honest hill]

M12 P0 w sig, arclight got frontier thermite perli got qingbo ww p3

gilb has sig

p0

I didn't artifice perli arc and gilb

[forest lily]

I used my last zhuang bs too early btw, wait for perlica electrification before using it

i think you'll need it

[honest hill]

oh

[forest lily]

actually no i didnt

i got elec from gilb ult

thats fine what i done

try doing that

you can gilb ult earlier i done it after using zhuang bs for a second

but you just want to use it directly after arc's ultimate pops the elec stacks into electri

[honest hill]

how did u get elec lv 2 and what happened to the nature stack

[forest lily]

Zhuang's first bs provides the 2nd elec stack just before arc ultimate consumes elec for electrification

nature stack got put into electrification for next bs by zhuang bs used during gilb ult

[honest hill]

ohh

[honest hill]

also when u do her normals it seems like ur cancelling before last one?

[river ermine]

i only ran the numbers comparing for BS9 hit and the mi was stronger is all
on full buff in a team of perli gil arc

the 25% atk ended up giving her more atk than slab

[honest hill]

im guessing u did bs after her normal then fs

[sturdy hill]

no idea on sustain

[forest lily]

after the first bs i do 2 normals and cancel with the 2nd bs so that the next bs i do provides perlica cs, but to be honest, you dont need any normals in this rot

[honest hill]

don't sustain just need hp

you don't?

[forest lily]

no

[honest hill]

what about fs for perlica cs

[forest lily]

you dont need it

actually does p0 need it

[honest hill]

smh

[sturdy hill]

its highly focused on hp

[honest hill]

whel

[dry kindle]

With current mi pieces?

[sturdy hill]

i didn't care about will

[honest hill]

that's good

[river ermine]

yes

[forest lily]

oh yeah p0 needs it

[honest hill]

hp

[river ermine]

mi chest and kit will main stat bs% and xiranflow gloves

[honest hill]

so her normals are up to 3

[dry kindle]

[river ermine]

oh

wait

[honest hill]

I think I get it roughly

[river ermine]

i think i fucked up smth ytd

[forest lily]

wait mi does provide bettr?

[dry kindle]

Good job

[forest lily]

but only at 9 blades?

[honest hill]

who

[dry kindle]

Rena

[river ermine]

i didnt have the stanza buff and thermite buff on the atk for the xiranflow + slab

[dry kindle]

You

[forest lily]

gg

[dry kindle]

🗿

[honest hill]

fund rena

[river ermine]

ill run the numbers again later

[dry kindle]

This mf useless

[drifting quest]

tap the sign

[river ermine]

lmao

[honest hill]

@forest lily is stanza better or worse than gilb sig for zhuang

[forest lily]

yeah man

stanza is zhaungs bis

[drifting quest]

if you run the uge setup > run sig

if you dont run the uge setup > run stanza

its that simple

[honest hill]

ykwim

[forest lily]

yeah it depends on the rot

for what you're running now, use deliv

[dry kindle]

You can hit uge req with stanza

[forest lily]

if you do this rot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFg-JPEuzlY

then you can run stanza

but generally i dont know if p0 can hit this

[drifting quest]

for most people stanza is good enough

[forest lily]

maybe with alot of crits

[drifting quest]

sig is for trying to squeeze in multiple ults

[forest lily]

you mean stanza?

keeping stanza up with high uge > sig

[drifting quest]

there's 2:1 ult setups

[river ermine]

you cant hit 260 uge with stanza

[drifting quest]

and there's 1:1 ult setups

if you're trying to do 2:1 > sig
if you're just doing 1:1 > stanza

[forest lily]

ig im a bit biased because i use ult food sometimes

[honest hill]

okay

[dry kindle]

250

[forest lily]

so deliv isnt always needed

[dry kindle]

Smh

Wrong req

[honest hill]

give whole team ult food

[dry kindle]

Give zfy ult food

[honest hill]

or perli on the heal food

[dry kindle]

[forest lily]

zhuang might benefit from ult food in 0 ult rots more than other food

[dry kindle]

[honest hill]

I mean stew

[dry kindle]

Cc ban tacticals I beg

[honest hill]

but yeah

[forest lily]

she cant eat stew

[honest hill]

it will

[forest lily]

unless its a 2 phase boss

that resets food

[honest hill]

rip

[drifting quest]

food
0 ult

these are currently mutually exclusive cases

[forest lily]

yeah depends if we're allowed to eat in cc

[drifting quest]

either its 0 ult start and food is banned
or you start with ult

food allowed in cc would be so funny

[blazing lake]

patch not even a week long and people already bored

[forest lily]

that was on like day 2

[bronze plume]

i could see it having a tag that removes it icl

freeiest risk ever

[drifting quest]

depends how much its worth

if they do new cc system and its like 5 or 10 risk

[dry kindle]

Fund my p1

[drifting quest]

you prob dont bother taking it and just abuse food and tacticals

[blazing lake]

fund my mi fu

[dry kindle]

But max risk

[bronze plume]

ill fund shuo a bp

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

thats the best you are getting

[blazing lake]

💔

[honest hill]

could you clear tentacles and all in one rot w zhuang

[forest lily]

yeah

[drifting quest]

buy yourself a bp on my behalf

thanks

[bronze plume]

i have

[honest hill]

without food

[forest lily]

marble is so fun on zhuang

[drifting quest]

problem solved

[bronze plume]

smh

ill do it one day

[honest hill]

beef on an adventure to buy shuo a bp

[drifting quest]

the marble timestop when you kill the tentacles is really annoying with fangyi dash 2

[bronze plume]

all the mfs i know i wanna gift stuff to

dont want it

pride having mfs

[forest lily]

in the rot we get a cs and are close enough to core to not worry about it

[drifting quest]

i need to check if it got bugfixed

[forest lily]

because of how long the bs range is

[honest hill]

isn't that good for you

[forest lily]

you can just start walking to core early

[drifting quest]

its the

getting locked into dash2 anim

[honest hill]

it's the thought that counts right

[bronze plume]

i like giving money to those i like smh

[drifting quest]

if you're mid cast

[forest lily]

oh you get locked?, i never tried dash2 immediatelly before

[drifting quest]

timing is weird

it can happen if you like

bskill > dash to core

[honest hill]

give free money to someone else then

[drifting quest]

to position early during anim cast

but kill the tenta too fast

[bronze plume]

but everybody i want to doesnt want it

i cant give it too my wife she has a addiction already

[drifting quest]

i was testing gear and rots on it and had it happen like 2 times out of 10 or so runs

[forest lily]

weird

[honest hill]

buy it for ur imaginary friends

[forest lily]

when i was making my speedrot vid that never happened to me once

i was always close enough to core to not need to dash at all

[bronze plume]

what makes you think

[honest hill]

the one imaginary friend from childhood

[bronze plume]

i dont have friends

[honest hill]

no like

imaginary friend

[bronze plume]

i dont

get it

[honest hill]

people have those

you know during childhood

they have an imaginary friend

Guess you're too old to understand

[bronze plume]

thats just

sad

[bronze plume]

bro

[forest lily]

i want a place that combines the PAC storage in wuling and Valley

[bronze plume]

there is a good chance you are older then me

im no unc

[forest lily]

i hate forgetting which one i put shit in

[honest hill]

highly doubt it

ur like 50

[bronze plume]

bruh

im the og funny number

[honest hill]

67?

[bronze plume]

bruh

[drifting quest]

i assume they mean 21

but thats not the og

[bronze plume]

how is 21 not the og

[honest hill]

[gritty briar]

i was thinking 69

[bronze plume]

was 69 before it

[drifting quest]

yeah

[bronze plume]

damn

[drifting quest]

but there were ones before that even

[dry kindle]

Gg beef unc

[honest hill]

Well beef is 69

Beef unc

[river ermine]

[bronze plume]

no youre showing yo age shuo

[drifting quest]

im 24

[dry kindle]

Show slab atk%

[gritty briar]

69 is definitely older than 21 as a funny number

[drifting quest]

i sure dont feel it

i woke up today to the worst cramp going

[bronze plume]

i cant call that old

[gritty briar]

i remember people making 69 jokes before vine was a thing

[forest lily]

im surelly gonna critfish for 200 atk

[drifting quest]

my calf still hurts like 4h later

[bronze plume]

bro youre 24 not 34

[drifting quest]

genetics are a bitch

[dry kindle]

Why is sig 49

[drifting quest]

my legs are not cool

[bronze plume]

at least you have both smh

[drifting quest]

i didnt want to make the joke myself

it would have been tasteless

[river ermine]

xiranflow 3pc

[drifting quest]

until you make it

[river ermine]

i just put it in one place 🗿

[bronze plume]

i get it cuz you cant taste what isnt there

[dry kindle]

Smhsmhsmh

[forest lily]

ok so mi is a little better but if you crit on slab anyway its just gonna be better

[drifting quest]

its ok if i ever lose my leg ill relate

[forest lily]

we love critfishing

[dry kindle]

[honest hill]

You can be buddies w beef

[bronze plume]

its not worth it

[dry kindle]

Who doesn't love crit fishing

[drifting quest]

my right one is the one that clots but my left one is the one that cramps

[honest hill]

Okay whel

[dry kindle]

Fund me you whel

[forest lily]

i finally have my swordmancer fully artificed for gilb

[honest hill]

I am trying to get funds from Hifumi

[dry kindle]

Where mine

[bronze plume]

is it working

[honest hill]

you have to go to the sewers

[honest hill]

No he's not as rich as I thought

When I saw him pull zhuang

[bronze plume]

damn hes exposed

[drifting quest]

beggars

[bronze plume]

im a anti beggar

but for shuo

[honest hill]

Striker is the richest

[bronze plume]

shuo can i counter offer upon to you any HH bundle

[drifting quest]

maybe if i get fucked by gacha again next patch

[honest hill]

You want him to play the game longer

That's very evil beef

[bronze plume]

i just want

to provide stuff to a person who is helful to me smh

shuo is the goat

[honest hill]

Then give him something

like the 30 dollar bundle

[bronze plume]

real note tho why do literally none of the base packs give more then 10 pulls

what ones the 30 dollar one im not usd

im use that nzd

[honest hill]

Yikes

so cooked

[drifting berry]

they are not greedy /s

[bronze plume]

i think

its the opposite of cooked

to live in New Zealand compared to America

[honest hill]

Hm let me check

[bronze plume]

is it the protocol flow?

10 pulls 2k arsenal 10 crowns?

[honest hill]

Yeah the big one w crowns

[bronze plume]

bro i wish

that shit didnt have crowns in it

[drifting quest]

pros: better standard of living
cons: more expensive gacha pulls

[bronze plume]

gloridied extra $10

[bronze plume]

also just the lack of things

even shipping from aussie is ass

granted

[bronze plume]

i WOULD NOT want to live in auckland

[honest hill]

You know what's crazy even tho it costs 30 usd, I use pounds and it still listed as 30 which is 40 usd

[drifting quest]

its always romanticised until you actually live there

[honest hill]

[bronze plume]

such is most places

[drifting quest]

sometimes tax isnt added till checkout for US

so the prices end up the same

[honest hill]

Hm I guess so

[amber vapor]

Vegemite eaters

[bronze plume]

you leave vegemite alone

that stuff is GAS

[drifting quest]

some vendors also suck

[honest hill]

Yeah...

[drifting quest]

i know steam gives prices in USD for limbus but then just charges USD so I save like 20%

[bronze plume]

also

i did the very funny

and brought the verdance hh bundle for zfy

even tho shes p1

[amber vapor]

Did y'all see the Chinese AIC kits for Endfield?

[bronze plume]

and then

bam last rite

[drifting quest]

i keep losing to emb*r

[bronze plume]

i dont even know what that means

[drifting quest]

4 more and she can be a worse thermite cutter

[amber vapor]

There's AIC kits they're gonna sell in China

Like model kits with an AIC model and then components and so on for a factory setup

[bronze plume]

bro i got ||6 in 120 on rossi banner and 3 in 70 in zfy my time is coming to get fucking closlined soon|| spoilers because gacha luck type shit

[bronze plume]

oh so like legos

but endfield

[bronze plume]

i still have yet to get her

and it scares me

[amber vapor]

Ye

[drifting quest]

ive had good luck in gacha like once in the past year

maybe twice if we count average luck for once in a lim ak banner

[bronze plume]

oof

[dry kindle]

Financially crippling 😔

[drifting quest]

thats a lie i sacked fangyi

twice

[bronze plume]

last time i was this lucky was eyja alter banner

[amber vapor]

That's a maccas meal isn't it

[bronze plume]

i have not once unsurprisingly been lucky in any hoyo gacha

in fact

[drifting quest]

I started on taxes banner and I put 150-300 into every single lim banner

smile

[bronze plume]

for 2 years straight i lost 50/50 in genshin

[bronze plume]

W

im missing a good amount cuz i dont really play much now just a lim banner andy now basically

[drifting quest]

no luo xiaohei and ash will forever brick my account

[amber vapor]

I've been debating trying to find my OG day 1 arknights account and getting it back

[dry kindle]

Pretty much

[bronze plume]

really regret not getting lappyalter tho

[amber vapor]

But I'm too lazy

[drifting quest]

i did like 100 on ulpi first banner and like 200 on his rerun for lucilla

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

oh are these the ones you dont have?

[drifting quest]

yeah

[bronze plume]

no eyja

how do you live

[drifting quest]

i borrow

and mald

[bronze plume]

next summer anni i got you

[dry kindle]

Just mon3tr it

[drifting quest]

elem damage is still a thing sadly

[dry kindle]

Just mon3tr it anyway

Go my s2

[bronze plume]

next summer if you get 200 pulls

ill get you the last 100 for her spark

ez

[drifting quest]

poor overworked honeyberry

[soft tendon]

surely if i have garbage luck on fangyi banner i get good luck on joint banner

[bronze plume]

actually when is she meant to go down to 200

[dry kindle]

Not even lv50 gg

[drifting quest]

uh

2 years?

[bronze plume]

damn still a while

[drifting quest]

ill prob get her then

[bronze plume]

nah

you WILL spark her next summer event

[amber vapor]

Gotta trim all content first trust

[quaint matrix]

congrats. you've funded 1.3. ty

[drifting quest]

im stuck on lim banner only for the next 9mo anyway probably

nasti and titi are cool but wang ch3n too good

[soft tendon]

been there done that

[drifting quest]

then bellone zima2 are fine but

[soft tendon]

hard pitied zfy and her sig ggs

[dry kindle]

P5 sui in 100 pulls surely

[soft tendon]

then hard pitied khrav

[quaint matrix]

no,don't fall for that. it's a trap

[drifting quest]

im still tweaking out over

average p5 in 250

[limpid rock]

no ling and chongus smh

[drifting quest]

like what

[dry kindle]

Just be luckier

[soft tendon]

i saw a pic of 4 fangyis in a single 10x

[drifting quest]

i lost to ling on chongyue banner then lost to chongyue on shu banner

[soft tendon]

on bilibili i think

[dry kindle]

Yeah

They p5 in 130

[limpid rock]

🥹 damn

[drifting quest]

i was hoping to lose to shu on yu banner

[soft tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1399954323181535243/1478080515180331061/attachment.gif

[drifting quest]

it didnt happen

[limpid rock]

did you get sakiko

[drifting quest]

yeah

[amber vapor]

I once got 3 dupes on a limited banner in a gacha I stopped playing after 2 days

[drifting quest]

only took 60 thankfully

[soft tendon]

dude stole my zfy luck

[limpid rock]

noice

[amber vapor]

It's like the world was mocking my existence

[drifting quest]

i got haruka hoshi2 and sash2 pram2 thankfully too

[quaint matrix]

my luckiest pull is ardelia+rossi on free 10 pull after you pull 30

i was shocked

[drifting quest]

took like 180 and 130 respectfully

[quaint matrix]

happened on zfy banner

[limpid rock]

i don't got Pram2 yet, but thankfully got SA2

Now my limited banner collection is still complete

[dry kindle]

Annnnd

I just found a p5 in 100

[soft tendon]

this was my only ever >1 6* 10x

and it was on like day 4 of launch

[drifting quest]

be careful posting gacha results

[quaint matrix]

that's insane

[drifting quest]

its one of the few things mods seem to consistently chase up

[soft tendon]

ah

[quaint matrix]

but you might get flagged for this

[soft tendon]

ok thats going down

[quaint matrix]

be carefull

[soft tendon]

i havent gotten even gotten a double

[amber vapor]

Mods awake only to snipe the most minor offenses

[dry kindle]

https://vxb23.tv/g7i7aos 😭

[quaint matrix]

on my account i got 2 doubles. 1st on laev banner laev+lifeng and 2nd i mentioned above

[quaint matrix]

it says average p5 is 456?

[amber vapor]

Low is 53!?

Isn't the technical lowest 6 pulls?

[dry kindle]

Over x not inf runs

Anyway throw bricks at this mf

[soft tendon]

its like

[tight haven]

dont worry we got their name in the system

[soft tendon]

a 1 in 1 trillion chance

to get 6 copies in a single 10x

[tight haven]

ALEX KARP! accidentally label their home as a military strike target

[amber vapor]

That'll be me one day trust

[soft tendon]

i think the sun exploding will come sooner than that

[quaint matrix]

this is insane

he could win a lottery with this luck

and just fund himself all p5 in the game till it eos

[thorn shore]

my favorite gacha game? eos? never

[frozen tide]

is it a me issue that clowns sheet images arent loading right

[frozen tide]

i used a diff browser and seems to work

[quaint matrix]

i'm still thinking if i should pull gil. she's cute and works very well but i want to save pulls for character i really like. wanted to keep a rule if it's not hard yes than it's no

[limpid rock]

just wait until next devlog

[quaint matrix]

sitting on my 362 pulls thinking i need to save for someone else

[limpid rock]

the BF banner gonna last until then anyways

[dry kindle]

Should give them to me

[quaint matrix]

the other thing is i like seeing big number in my gacha tab. it just makes me feel: if i really want someone i'll get it for sure

[quaint matrix]

i save them and stare and save

for brightest future

we got 3 announced characters

i kinda want 2 of them

[drifting quest]

nothing is a hard yes

[quaint matrix]

i want mifu but dunno about green haired girl. maybe if i'll enjoy her personality

[drifting quest]

pull what you like skip what you dont

[quaint matrix]

yeah

also i want my fav characters to do big numbers outside of copies cause copies are to expensive

and if the vampire dude is actual support for fire teams i might get baited

but i kinda dislike his design

imo grown ass jacked up brutal dudes>edgy boys

however i like male endmin

i just hate that he's like a robot who just does everything what he's told to do

[thorn shore]

you forgot but this was all your choice, everything we tell you to do is what youre telling yourself to do ooooooooooo listen blindly to me oooo we are on the side of justice oooo

[drifting quest]

being shoved in the sarc on repeat killed off their personality and braincells i guess

glowdown for the ghost of babel

[quaint matrix]

i hope one day endmin just asks: "who is priestess" and everyones faces go pale

[drifting quest]

most of them prob dont even know her

m3 knows, and some RI execs like Warfie

[quaint matrix]

okay that girl that looks like Kal'tsit but with less polygons

i dunno why but i remember her model being so npc

[drifting quest]

the original design was better

[quaint matrix]

and i still cant believe ardashir was defeated so easily

he looked like a smart villain and lost all the bits of aura he tried to farm

[drifting quest]

deus ex sui proxy

[dry kindle]

Where muh sui jacket smh

[olive laurel]

Do yall think Arcane gonna Æther unit?

[dry kindle]

No

[olive laurel]

Damn

[bronze plume]

if they are to ever make aether a element for ops for some reason

it probably wont happen for like 3 years

[drifting quest]

i doubt they ever do

[bronze plume]

i also hope they never do it

[dry kindle]

Endmin form swap:

[quaint matrix]

i hate this gacha companies are always doing it safe,slow pace nothing special

i wish we had something like cataclysm addon in wow: so you remember wulling and you did quests there and met npc. now it's completely destroyed and all old regions are consumed by i dunno blight. and also you cant figure it out. you can try but thats all you get

not the bad thing should happen

but world changing a bit

but i'd prefer something catastrophic

atleast the kinda fixed the issue of characters dissapearing second after their patch ends

[bronze plume]

then either you hope that the storyline that HG have for the game leds to that

or go play a game thats story does do that

[quaint matrix]

for now i kinda enjoy it and not. i think ardashir being trapped so easily and whole victory of 1.2 being so smooth felt like: yeah it doesnt matter what problems we face, we will fix it with plot twist

the boss fight is cool and epic

[soft tendon]

nothing bad ever happens to china based regions in gacha

[quaint matrix]

but nothing else

[soft tendon]

anything else is fair game

[bronze plume]

well tbf

ardashir was never going to really be

a big bad

[quaint matrix]

when in zfy quest she was like

oh no i'm gonna sacrifice myself

everyone knew it's not gonna happen

like you don't need to be a 4th grade engineer to read between the lines

the plot was very obvious

[amber vapor]

Tbf there's always a subtle undertone about how Chinese work-life culture is unhealthy (i.e. - overworked, always stressed out, etc) and how archaic the politics can be

But that's the most they can get away with for the token Chinese region in a CN dev game

[quaint matrix]

and also it's a bit odd how in cutscene endmin has those bright cracks on his face and felt exhausted

a freaking minute after

stand up and proceed with normal routine

no character development no side effects just pure mc power up in the right moment with no consequences

[soft tendon]

power of perlica lap pillow

[chilly bolt]

Ngl if you just exclude the endmin from the plot, then it's actually not bad

[quaint matrix]

i really enjoyed in laev quest how he doubts himself his choices, his purpose

and we never get that thoughts from him after that

just pure "i'll do everything you say" npc

maybe cause it's some old variation of quest and the story got rewrited i dunno

[soft tendon]

remove the dialogue choices in msq and give endmin more voiced lines

its not like our choices will affect the storyline anything beyond a couple lines surely

[quaint matrix]

we dont speak

we behave

[sudden mauve]

Is there a writeup somewhere on how to properly dual DPS Fangyi and Avywenna

[drifting quest]

not that im aware of

you could try the guide in #1493499627830251530 but I haven't read it myself so I do not know if anything is included, nor can I comment on it's quality

[sudden mauve]

i looked but its about fangyi main dps or avywenna main dps and neither of them include eachother sadly

[drifting quest]

Then nothing im aware of exists right now as a formal writeup

can try backsearching this channel but It'd be impossible to say how good any comments are, if any

[proper walrus]

yeah its so hard

[drifting berry]

Oblivion next, trust 🙏

[bronze plume]

well tbf it is

[drifting quest]

thermite never

oh the dates remained off by 1 day

[drifting berry]

idk, wasn't able to find any page that has any information on the previous weapons on rotation

No idea if there is a pattern

[drifting quest]

minus the 5* i forgot to add in and the future ones

[drifting berry]

tyty

[dry kindle]

Nice thermite 🗣️

[drifting quest]

i should go add them

[tulip plinth]

there is thermite??????????

[chilly bolt]

Yes

Fat thermite

[tulip plinth]

also does any 5* worth buyin?

[tulip plinth]

ewwwwww

the fact that the design is so similar

[forest sentinel]

thermite next, i will crash out '3')

[drifting quest]

I believe that's correct but I can't read Chinese

[bronze plume]

i mean its just the same brand making the weapon

but like

its a greatsword and reg sword

[forest sentinel]

wth is this? prediction?

[drifting quest]

datamine

[forest sentinel]

or data mine

[bronze plume]

of course they will be very similar if they are part of the same brand and "family"

[forest sentinel]

argh, no thermite, argh

[gusty plover]

is tang tang and fang yi arethe only aoe units ?

[drifting quest]

should you wish to check yourself the translations

[bronze plume]

define aoe unit

[forest sentinel]

umu umu, the line goes here to there, umu umu, close

[gusty plover]

good at dealing with multiple enemies

[bronze plume]

like

good at killing them

or good at hitting them with debuffs/grouping them and damaging them

[gusty plover]

if grouping, theres gilberta. im talking abt killing them

[bronze plume]

tt, fangyi, avy, leav

avy requires brain power

[soft tendon]

anything but jet and thermite in shop

[drifting quest]

||wedge|| as well, has never been in shop

[grand lagoon]

avy is LOE instead of AOE

[bronze plume]

wtf is LOE

[gusty plover]

i tried combat drill but i felt fangyi to be very squishy, thinking of skipping her but at the same time i dont have any aoe units, i only have st unit. wish i knew there would be a gilberta rerun then i would have pulled for yvonne and tang tang

[grand lagoon]

LINE OF EFFECT

AREA OF EFFECT

[bronze plume]

yeah so

the same thing

[bronze plume]

i mean all characters will eventually get reruns anyway

and the amount of "squishy" literally any character is

depends on your ability to dodge attacks

sure there are characters that have more def or hp that they want for there kits

[drifting quest]

fangyi has an immunity talent so if she feels squishy then

there's probably a bigger issue to solve

[bronze plume]

but like most ops have like 7k hp when maxxed and like shuo just said she literally has a dmg immunity talent

[gusty plover]

skill issue for me thats why im using ember

[bronze plume]

if i speak i die

[gusty plover]

im bad at dodging imo, i get yeeted in phase 2 dragon roars at neferetti

[forest sentinel]

ember spoil us

when we use her, and after we didn't use her

i remember the phase that i sucks at dodge after i didn't use ember

[sterile moat]

Not to mention that she is the most mobile op

Can move and cast

[ocean turret]

This may take a while

[drifting quest]

find a nice video to listen to and go vibe for a few hours

[outer ermine]

do mine

[warped sorrel]

She feel weird to dodge idk why

its like she always stuck inside the animation and get delay

[sterile moat]

She isnt though, she can animation cancel bs fairly quickly and you can sort of "slide cast"

[warped sorrel]

Maybe its the dodge feedback

Maybe its just me

[dry kindle]

Better than me

I got like 90% of chests to do

[gusty plover]

yes i felt that. it feels extra hard to navigate the upcoming atk

[sterile moat]

Ngl dont just stand there and normal attack, move from side to side

She wont even get hit most of the time

[dry kindle]

Normal string kinda wack

Can move during final but not the rest

[warped sorrel]

there should be a setting to lower those flashy skill opacity

[normal tangle]

when i’m in a seeing competition and zhuang fangyi is on the battlefield

[warped sorrel]

I always moving and circle the enemies
Even though it make me dizzy

[sterile moat]

Yea but tbf, you do get range advantage of dodging stuff

[outer ermine]

she sleepin

[ocean turret]

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-it’s-just-that-everything-feels-right-sorry-amanai-gojo-sorry-jjk-gif-6689060642723775612

[dry kindle]

Ok noclipper

[bronze plume]

whats worse a noclipper or a shatter user

[swift onyx]

Pog rossi user

[outer ermine]

a beef

[bronze plume]

says the cbt2 player

[ocean turret]

whats a noclipper?

[bronze plume]

when you noclip in a videogame

you are not a certified gamer if you dont know what no clipping is

[sturdy hill]

what if noclip irl

[bronze plume]

i speedran real life with noclipping (NOT CLICKBAIT)

[normal tangle]

unit so broken even prydwen doesn't know what they're doing

what do you mean watchlist [up] from t0

dedicated t negative 1 tier?

[heady pine]

I assume they mean just move everyone down to 0.5

And go from there

[bronze plume]

ahh yes

tierlists

[normal tangle]

idk what the tierlist is even based on

[drifting quest]

waiter waiter its time for the daily tier list discourse

[normal tangle]

oh it's based on umbral

[sturdy hill]

tierlist r sucks anyways

[drifting quest]

congratulations on having a normal take

[sturdy hill]

cus tierlist r not even real in ak

[normal tangle]

i don't think anyone was debating that cro

[dry kindle]

[normal tangle]

i was making fun of the watchlist up while already at the highest tier

i was not endorsing the prydwen tierlist as an official metric of anything at all

[sturdy hill]

the moment i see tierlist word in ak help channel i want to disintegrate that message

[normal tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1234708636857794660/1496742257225629836/attachment.gif?ex=69eafd5a&is=69e9abda&hm=e0aa4783c6f001f63d637b250ba1b5725a81d35b85e57100171cf7edcb9b6d9f&

[drifting quest]

Zhuang Fangyi
(Damage) T0, Watchlist UP: Fangyi is an exorbitantly powerful unit who seems to cover all bases: she has very accessible teams (working just fine with a full 4 to 5-star line-up), has great range on her skills and manages consistent damage output without sacrificing on burst potential. On the aggregate she pumps out top tier numbers in all forms of content with little difficulty, but this does come with a caveat: long ramp-up periods. For Umbral Monument, 0 Ultimate Energy starts demand rather lengthy rotations, and while she is able to set-up quickly in modes like RE-Crisis, the need for Sunderblade stacking does hurt her speedrun prospects. We expect Fangyi to perform incredibly well generally - maybe even to the point where she sets a new bar for what a “T0” unit really is - but it is still too early for us to make such a call, with time and full community testing being needed to determine whether or not she’s worthy of such a placement. For the moment, we’re debuting her with T0 and a Watchlist UP tag to highlight how dominant she seems to be, but still keeping a close watch on her performance relative to other T0 Operators before making any commitments.

but posting tier list content in a chat like this is basically just ragebaiting anyway

universally disliked format

[sturdy hill]

words

[dry kindle]

Did lin write this as well

[drifting quest]

(we do the bare minimum effort rather than agendaposting)

[drifting quest]

no clue

prob not

it aligns with other TL writeups

[dry kindle]

Cold start problem feels fake

But umbral dies too fast so

[drifting quest]

it was written on her release so

yeah

[dry kindle]

When i get bored of chests I might try 1-3 speedrun or something

[outer ermine]

just do mino 1-3 and 2-3 is fake

[dry kindle]

Oh wait guess who doesn't have arclight p4

🗿

[dry kindle]

How is that any better

[outer ermine]

3-3 will cure ur boredom

by making u log out and do sm else

[dry kindle]

Outstanding

Bruh

600sp cold start with slab

P1 gated

Kill me

[fossil pendant]

huh

you can do that?

I thought that was a p4 thing unless you're running uge somewhere else on the gear

[dry kindle]

Guess p1 can do it too

🗿

Hifumi fund my p1 already

[sterile moat]

so for p1, 600sp slab and 500sp uge kit?

[bronze plume]

i thought you said bro was broke

[dry kindle]

That was stealth

[tulip plinth]

anyone has DOUBLE lynx double UGE setup? i wanna compare the stats from this screen

[dry kindle]

Until I get jumpscared by a 400sp kit start yeah

[sterile moat]

400sp xiranite lmao

but at that point do you even do dmg

[dry kindle]

I mean

Its zfy

[sterile moat]

Probably something like this

[dry kindle]

🗿

Its gonna be so goofy if we ever get a uge xiraflow piece

[tulip plinth]

anyone? if max artifice, its even better, tq

[limpid rock]

Just a sec, I have artificed Lynx

[outer ermine]

1k meat, 1k slug

[tulip plinth]

cool, i think someone mention doulbe lynx double UGE no set, is comparable to xiranflow + 1 slab

[limpid rock]

i don't have artificed e-xira gloves yet

[dry kindle]

[tulip plinth]

great, but you need the (will int ulti eff gain armor and glove) + double lynx

wanna see the stats comparison

[limpid rock]

Oh yea, I don't have yet the final 2 upgrades on Will Boost in Essence btw, so Will could be higher

[dry kindle]

There is no will int armor

And only gloves are int will

[tulip plinth]

true, probably they meant

bonekrusha poncho t1
qingbo/xiranite glove t1
lynx slab
lynx slab

[limpid rock]

there's no UGE Will/Int Armor, only gloves

[tulip plinth]

the main attribute alone is big, but is it big enough to close the gap to

45% dmg and 10% atk from xiranflow

[limpid rock]

more atk after the last essence etch

[tulip plinth]

the thing is, im considering ult gain eff armor and glove + double lynx

compare to most popular xiranflow+lynx set

[bronze plume]

the for some reason undefeatable lynx

[tulip plinth]

funny shit is, lynx set is for healing and defensive/stalling

[bronze plume]

they just done fucked up with the main attribute % thats all there is too it

same with thermite

[winged delta]

Double lynx slab hurts my eyes

There's no way it's better no?

[bronze plume]

idk i dont test stuff

[signal palm]

homeless p0 4/4/3 endmin can still do this ig

[bronze plume]

especially not on a character i dont like

[signal palm]

how broken is physical team

[bronze plume]

me when i murder rhod fast for the 54387693rd time

they should make the first boss of cc be rhod but everything he has and does is 100x

[signal palm]

100x attack speed

yes

[bronze plume]

hell yeah

[tulip plinth]

well someone here said it is, somehwat close to xiranflow + slab. But with huge UGE

surely i want to consider it for p0 zf

[swift onyx]

What was it?
Double slab double uge pieces?

[sterile moat]

sounds cursed to me

i couldnt get any meaningful gains out of the uge

[outer ermine]

12s to ult in cold start is the gain

fuck dmg anyway

[sterile moat]

12s?

what in the world is that rota

[dry kindle]

Meme

[outer ermine]

20/20, 12/12 this week i didnt progress at all

[kindred sorrel]

good enough, welcome back double redeemer laeva

[outer ermine]

p5 delivery

zfy

[dry kindle]

Wao

Zfy solo dps 37s nef

[sterile moat]

I am thinking if i wanna max endmin....

[outer ermine]

finally joining me on shatter?

whel

[tulip plinth]

@swift onyx @sterile moat @bronze plume

had to search the chat
here guys, i really'need' advice xD , thank you in advance

#theorycrafting message

[chilly bolt]

Why do i have a feeling that requires p5 sig

Cuz it's a big source of dmg% bonus

[dry kindle]

🗿

[sterile moat]

idk what kind of rotation i can do with the new uge at p4

[dry kindle]

Oh I'm probably gonna get warned for that

No fun zone

[sterile moat]

i tested it out and it didnt seem to gain anything meaningful rotation wise

[tulip plinth]

whats the breakpoint? 400SP?

to ult?

[swift onyx]

Ran out of arti catalysts

[tulip plinth]

awesome, does the damage falls lower or similar? (myabe try rhodagn?)

[swift onyx]

What rot and team?
I can try but wont guarantee it will be perfect

[tulip plinth]

35% uge ~ 42% doesnt seems able to 400SP breakpoint

srsly, what are they cooking XD

[sterile moat]

God knows

I would have been impressed if it did cut to 400sp

[dry kindle]

just do math

[sterile moat]

i saw cn graphic saying that you can swap to bonekrusha + slab at p4

i have no idea what they cooked

[forest lily]

i updated the sheet with laevatain,

if any laevatain mains wanna question anything, let me know
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_4X60VnI64Ova1mvMEoAAIZBpSZkC5BfJkQIXYsnSJM/edit?usp=sharing

[sterile moat]

@forest lily any idea what this set can do at p4

something about 479 blade rotation at 0 ult?

[dry kindle]

479 2 combo

[tulip plinth]

thxxxx

[forest lily]

This will provide worse dmg after i believe 2 zfy BS's over xiranflow

it looks like a 1/2 bs cycle laeva build

and it makes alot of sense actually

mostly main stats

bs% on kit

elec dmg on gloves

cs dmg on armor