theorycrafting

[drifting quest]

W take

[pure spoke]

What happened. Why is shuo acting like a ff14 player

[drifting quest]

Nothing happened

[main nova]

rememinder of yourself if you trapped in the drama

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-enemy-gif-26060704

[main nova]

[willow karma]

nailed it

[bronze plume]

congrats you geyt

nothing!

[honest hill]

peak unemployment

[bronze plume]

you did it 40 seconds faster then what you need for the trim

thats uhh cool i guess

[willow karma]

on my first try, I got 1.32, but then seeing Rossi's time..

I shan't leave a challenge unanswered

didn't even care about the trim

[bronze plume]

i mean its not like its hard so

youre literally just bowling standing still most the time

[willow karma]

the challenge was like sort like a puzzle

[bronze plume]

i mean

sure?

dogass event to me

stand still throw some bombs

or play bowling with rhinos on to slugs

[willow karma]

agreed tbh

[spring vault]

so whats the puzzle then

[willow karma]

set the rhino's positioning in advance so that they will charge through the snails spawn patterned positions (bowling triangle\trapezoid\an X)

hopefully they add more challenges with some oomph soon, which actually requires the use of your noggin

[drifting quest]

W take

[echo cove]

imma send my friend's time as well

[pure spoke]

The lowest in my friendlist is 1:05

Sub 1 when

[willow karma]

I'm not that bored

[pure spoke]

Xd

[willow karma]

maybe if there were a leaderboards or something concrete to flex

[pure spoke]

A medal

[echo cove]

ngl they should do that

[pure spoke]

End of the event top 3 medal

[bronze plume]

could you really call it a flex to complete something of that scale fast tho?

like all your doing to making the rhino boys hit slugs

[pure spoke]

Yes

[bronze plume]

💀

[lime bear]

#theorycrafting not even recognized by HG 😭

[echo cove]

i mean, if gets ur name famous, sure

[pure spoke]

As long there is competition

[willow karma]

it's for myself so I can sleep more content with a smirk

[pure spoke]

Oh its from the newest event? I was talking about the wall cleaning

Then i take it back with the 1:05

[bronze plume]

tbf

id also ask the same question about a power washing sim event

[willow karma]

oh I didn't even consider the wall cleaning

[bronze plume]

that shit aint impressive

its just using a macro to spray the water and movwe

[willow karma]

I didn't rlly bother with that, better clean my flat instead

[drifting quest]

So true

Inspirational

[bronze plume]

shuo i stg go back to normal

[drifting quest]

No thank you

I am embracing the desired culture to expand my horizons

[dry kindle]

Where even is this survey

[drifting quest]

#🎁discord-survey

[lime bear]

I wonder where

[bronze plume]

acting like normal spongebob

[drifting quest]

You should say wonderful things about this channel and all the things present

As this is a joyful place

[dry kindle]

Discord small indie company plz understand

We love hidden channels

[pure heron]

it is included in the category of help and guides

[rich linden]

Then itd be all ab you

UwU

[drifting quest]

So true

Stellar work

[rich linden]

Ty ty

[dry kindle]

Oh wait staff jumpscare

Wao

[bronze plume]

they exist

shock

(its not shocking)

[drifting quest]

Might be the first time I've seen GL staff and not discord mods send a message

[rich linden]

True

[dry kindle]

I thought my night mode was on

[rich linden]

Welcome sir

May i have some primos

[bronze plume]

wrong game

[rich linden]

(For legal reasons thats a joke)

[drifting quest]

Your opinion is valid and real

Joke or not

[rich linden]

🙏

[honest hill]

why are ppl flexing their survival training event times like they've accomplished something 💀

[bronze plume]

who knows

[rich linden]

Why not

[drifting quest]

Why wouldnt they want to show off their achievement

[rich linden]

Right?

[drifting quest]

Very impressive of them

[rich linden]

Why hate

Smh

[drifting quest]

They deserve praise for it

[honest hill]

You don't get anything from it, u hit 2m and that's good enough

[rich linden]

Be supportive

[honest hill]

pls go back to normal

[drifting quest]

This is normal

[honest hill]

[drifting quest]

We are an inclusive space here

Everyone is valid

[wild rose]

Incredibly so

[echo cove]

woah, a yellow name

[ocean turret]

how to change color??

[bronze plume]

bro what?

its their role

[echo cove]

does that mean this channel now is under a mod?

[bronze plume]

thats literally a HG staff

[ocean turret]

[wild rose]

Become gryphline staff/moderator/nitro booster

[echo cove]

[bronze plume]

i mean no

[rich linden]

wdym? hes just being the usual ray of sunshine he always was

[honest hill]

[bronze plume]

they where just asking if theorycrafting was under a specific thing in the survey

[gritty olive]

the normal is me sending is5 runs here

[drifting quest]

So true

[gritty olive]

then sending a screenshot of what im doing in the sheet

rinse and repeat

[drifting quest]

Real

Based

[wild rose]

Senior hypeman specialist

It's an incredible transformation

[rich linden]

chat would fangyi akekuri perlica gilberta be a good comp

or arclight over akek

[bronze plume]

1. yes probably

2. wait until shes out

[rich linden]

i cant wait for her to be out

gonna pull the shit out of her banner

[bronze plume]

i also

cant wait until the game has content again

well i can but

[rich linden]

im very slow at clearing content, im still not 100% on valley 4

2 more sub regions to go

[smoky quarry]

I did all survival training stages in one go

This event is so ass 💔

[bronze plume]

yeah i dont have a life so

well i do but its bound me to sitting for most of it

[rich linden]

my life is mostly on league lol

[bronze plume]

so you also dont have one 💀

[smoky quarry]

They called it challenge event

[rich linden]

real

[smoky quarry]

I thought they can't do worse than etchspace

[chilly bolt]

The event is an absolute joke

[bronze plume]

god rewards tho

minus the pulls

good*

[formal copper]

So, 1.2 seems to be 7 weeks long and there's only 1 new character. Theory crafting in shambles.

[smoky quarry]

worse than "clean the shit" event

[wispy shuttle]

events generally seem to spit out good rewards tbf

[smoky quarry]

it's more profitable to be a cleaner than a fighter

[chilly bolt]

45 days? Damn

[bronze plume]

well if fangyi is anything like rossi (she probably wont be) will need more then those 35 days

[formal copper]

49 days, 17th April - 5th June

[wispy shuttle]

wonder if 1.3 will go back to six weeks

[bronze plume]

hope it stays 35 days but 2 new banners

[smoky quarry]

ONLY ONE CHARACTER

WHAT

[bronze plume]

aint it 35 days?

[formal copper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HF3aBo7aUAAWXud.jpg?name=orig

[bronze plume]

they said fangyis banner last 35 days

[formal copper]

It doesn't end with her banner

[smoky quarry]

They made a rerun?

[bronze plume]

bro what the fuck is that

[formal copper]

It ends with the fest of brilliance banner

[smoky quarry]

Lavatein rerun in two monthes from her release 😭

Wtf are they cooking

[chilly bolt]

That banner overlapping is weird...

[wispy shuttle]

overlap is one week yeah

[formal copper]

2nd sanity supply event basically spells when the patch ends

[urban plaza]

another fresh start option for beginner

[smoky quarry]

What the hell is swift walker

[urban plaza]

Lae is probably most beginner friendly strong team

[smoky quarry]

You either start day one, or you go fomo

[chilly bolt]

So people would just hold on fangyi until the rerun starts

[wispy shuttle]

again only 1 umbral monument

[smoky quarry]

This is how I approach gachas

[bronze plume]

the name for the banner for gilbertas weapon

[formal copper]

Name of the Gilberta signature weapon banner

[urban plaza]

well, me as well
just trying to come up with a solution

[cold bane]

so do we know how long next patch is now?

[urban plaza]

cause usually it takes 1 year for rerun

[smoky quarry]

1.2 is even worse than 1.1???

[bronze plume]

in what regard?

[urban plaza]

we do get a bunch of nice QoL so there is that

[wispy shuttle]

characters/second

[smoky quarry]

Events are ass

[formal copper]

The 1.2 boss better be good

[smoky quarry]

Isn't it too early for rerun of gilberta and lavatein?

It wasn't even a half-year

[bronze plume]

1.2 is the "main patch of the expansion" it cant be bad

[smoky quarry]

ONE NEW CHARACTER

[formal copper]

The banner screams filler and/or Gilberta skippers bait

[dry kindle]

Its not rerun

[smoky quarry]

I got robbed, I waited for her

[smoky quarry]

Yeah, a lot of people on reddit cry about skipping gilberta

[sturdy hill]

copiums

[smoky quarry]

devs listened

just not in the way you expected

[urban plaza]

i mean there is 0 content that requires gilberta

[dry kindle]

[urban plaza]

she is just nice to have

[smoky quarry]

there is 0 content that is worth playing

if you wanna go that far

[urban plaza]

wouldnt say that
just nothing that requires minmaxxing

which CC is supposed to change

sad that its only coming in 1.3 not 1.2

[dry kindle]

Factory event will be cool

For like a day probably

[urban plaza]

factory event will be "produce 50 of X" then you rearrange your factory for 10 minutes and wait

most likely

but hey, at least it lets you interact with AIC again

[dry kindle]

Its event limited recipies

• event store

[formal copper]

We'll have to interact with the factory 3 times in this patch, better than 1.1 for sure

[smoky quarry]

wow, can't wait to buy 50 oroberyls for a million of wuling stock bills

[wild rose]

You can prob leave your factory making it for the time the event is up but then you're back to only making boring batteries again

[pastel mesa]

Surprised 1.1 will have more “gameplay” events than 1.2

[dry kindle]

Event currency

[smoky quarry]

1.1 fucked my brain with cuprium

I crashed out and crafted 48k of each components

[formal copper]

Oh boy you'll love the amount of pipes in this patch

[smoky quarry]

to never bother with this again

[urban plaza]

i hope they give at least more nodes
i have my frickin sup PAC completely empty and still produce at max output

its sooo frustrating

[smoky quarry]

You'll just overproduce

[urban plaza]

we get a second outpost

[smoky quarry]

More importantly

Second depot and new market

[urban plaza]

also more resources for components

[formal copper]

Yeah this will change don't worry

[dry kindle]

Isnt it just redist

And camera thing

[formal copper]

The patch will first double the space needed for xiranite production, 4 to 8 forges, and then 2nd map will make it go from 8 to 12 forges

[dry kindle]

Anyway

[formal copper]

We will require triple the space for all the forges and xiranite than what we need now

[urban plaza]

good

[dry kindle]

Cool but when 24 forges

[formal copper]

And then there's heavy xiranite too which we don't know the quantity of materials needed but we know it will be xiranite and xircon effluent

[urban plaza]

everything going through sky forges is limiting so much

[formal copper]

So I guess not as much space will be needed for the forges cause some of them will be used for heavy xiranite

We'll see what and how much

[smoky quarry]

Are you for real or just shitposting?

[wild rose]

Gotta use a Heavy Xiranite Forge of the Sky for that one

[wild rose]

Looks like his genuine thoughts on the matter

[formal copper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HF71WuNaUAAAJVH.jpg?name=orig

[smoky quarry]

from 4 to 12?

[formal copper]

They're posting on their twitter

[smoky quarry]

Big jump

FUCK, I AM GOING TO REARRANGE FACTORY AGAIN

[ocean turret]

WHAT

[smoky quarry]

Leander will post xiranie megastructure

[dry kindle]

Don't show this mf the stream

[ocean turret]

ITS 12 THIS PATCH?

[formal copper]

New patch, new factory?

[bronze plume]

yes 12

8 then 12

[dry kindle]

Local endfield player vs pipe logistics next update

[bronze plume]

and you need to use sky forges into sky forges for heavy xiranite

[urban plaza]

get ready for HC Wuling batteries

[bronze plume]

so itll probably be 2 sky forges per x amount of heavy xiranite

which is why we getting so much

[smoky quarry]

Nah, I'd use blueprints

[bronze plume]

i like building

[ocean turret]

welp time to post bps soon

[bronze plume]

me when i have over 10k hours in satisfactory

do wonder how much space itll all take

if we only getting 1 extra sub pac

me when trying to make my base small but also not dogass

[ocean turret]

what do they mean by special facility repairs?

[edgy crater]

[bronze plume]

id assume the event

[formal copper]

Probably the sewage treatment they showed, that converts sewage into effluent

[edgy crater]

aint incoming event only booster outpost thingy?

[ocean turret]

oh u need heavy xira to install the facility in testing area

okiee

[formal copper]

Not 100% sure just drawing conclusions from what they revealed, but they haven't done game events that they haven't revealed besides the web event for April 1st ig

[lyric latch]

well now that we know 1.2 is 49 days, imagine if 1.3 preview will be after Zhuang Fangyi's banner ends.

[formal copper]

Preview and then wait 3 weeks for it, nah not gonna happen

[drifting quest]

Excellent point

[smoky quarry]

I hope they won't bundle three characters in one patch again

[warped sorrel]

i hope they do

[bronze plume]

i honestly hope it stays 2 forever

and if they do rerun its just like a 2nd banner running together with the others

[smoky quarry]

People who skipped gilberta are gonna drain their bank account on this one

Am I weird if I want to see reconveners and alters more than new chars?

[bronze plume]

naur

its just a perference

[smoky quarry]

I like how they giveaway amazon cards for survey when half of the world can't use amazon

just giveaway battlepasses dawg, they cost 10 dollars too

[bronze plume]

the $20 usd amazon cards

pay for like

half of the shipping cost if i was to use amazon

[icy remnant]

It stacks 😭
We can redeploy Texas alter and Yato every 6 seconds

Silverash and Silverash synergy

[drifting quest]

Very true

[swift onyx]

Tc so dead they talk a diff game

[smoky quarry]

We already tc'd about fangyi, turns out she's the only new character next patch

we are so dead

[swift onyx]

[smoky quarry]

shuo, you wanted to leave?

[swift onyx]

I thought Lapina the destroyer is comi g out too

[drifting quest]

I might just quit

But this channel is so wonderful

All takes are so good

All valid

[smoky quarry]

this is not true 😭

[smoky quarry]

Lapina as Lappland?

[swift onyx]

Nah as in made up bs

[drifting quest]

Thats right

[lyric latch]

Maybe Shuo will lose his [Enlightened State] after the numbers are out tomorrow.

[drifting quest]

Why would I

[bronze plume]

Enlightened state

more like

[smoky quarry]

numbers are tomorrow?

[bronze plume]

fuck dis place state

[drifting quest]

That would require doing TC and we dont do that anymore

[bronze plume]

tbf

for me the update is out tommorow

already the 16th moment

[drifting quest]

TC is elitist it has no place in this channel

[smoky quarry]

warbond tomorrow

[drifting quest]

So true

[smoky quarry]

i hope they will release something good in men's mental health month

[drifting quest]

I wouldnt know I wont be looking at it

[smoky quarry]

Or i'll just go to psychiatric facility

[drifting quest]

Real

Superb choice

[smoky quarry]

Nobody knows that it exists cause lgbt community is apparently more important than half of the earth's population

[bronze plume]

💀 dont start that convo gang

[smoky quarry]

Not looking for convo, just doing random jabs

[drifting quest]

A standing ovation for you

[smoky quarry]

Shuo is being funny recently

figuratively, not literally

What's this about?

[drifting quest]

What would make you think such a thing

[smoky quarry]

Now you remind me House

[drifting quest]

Astute observation

Good job

[bronze plume]

someone called shuo a elitist for because shuo said they dont like the whole feelscrafting that comes when talking about teams, builds etc. that comes with characters we dont have numbers for

and some said stop being a elitist trying to say what we can and cant talk about type shit

(basically)

[smoky quarry]

Talking about p5 legendaries is elitist cause not everyone can afford it

[drifting quest]

They're correct TC is too elitist

I'm on the better path now

All opinions are accepted and equally valid

Everyone is correct

[smoky quarry]

Imagine that my opinion is "MTs are morally wrong". Is it correct?

[drifting quest]

If you think so then there must be something to it

[gritty olive]

this is why skipper is correct as to why they wont add helper roles like in hoyo discords

[smoky quarry]

I am not aware of what skipper said

[gritty olive]

some #discord-feedback shit

[drifting quest]

So true

[gritty olive]

addition of helper roles would only reinforce ego

[drifting quest]

Insane foresight

Gigabrain

[bronze plume]

me in any gacha server and i see someone saying that someone with a helper role is wrong on something

[gritty olive]

holy shit my rien sang did furioso

[bronze plume]

the helper role people ego rise tenfold

[gritty olive]

i have some relatively ok experience

[bronze plume]

ok hsr mod

[drifting quest]

Interesting take

[gritty olive]

i was in GIO for a time before being one, and ive had some good interactions

[wild rose]

Depends on the community and the people chosen

[drifting quest]

Thats right

[gritty olive]

there might be some bad apples but unlike here. the level of elitism and feelscrafting here is very crazy

i dont feel im elitist unless its IS and CC

[bronze plume]

yeah thats

[drifting quest]

Naturally

[bronze plume]

the arknights special

[gritty olive]

three people with arknights pfps talking about endfield

holy elitism

[bronze plume]

uhh

[bronze plume]

my pfp is actually ardelia not eyjafjalla

[drifting quest]

So true

[gritty olive]

yeah talk about semantics nerd

[smoky quarry]

So gay

[drifting quest]

Quite

[bronze plume]

ok hsr mod

[smoky quarry]

"Old Deep Water Dies
By Rising Tide It Is Denied"

And they say shakespeare is dead

[sterile patrol]

petioning for shuo for helper

[wild rose]

+1

[bronze plume]

make a helper role only give it to shuo

[smoky quarry]

just hire him to GL staff, he knows something

[drifting quest]

Im too elitist sorry

Disallowed

[gritty olive]

doesnt stoop to the level of lower beings

[smoky quarry]

When shuo is gonna become normal again?

[drifting quest]

This is it

[bronze plume]

when not in this server

[wild rose]

Fangyi will fix him right up

[drifting quest]

There will be no fangyi tc

[gritty olive]

lets just discuss ccb5

[drifting quest]

Tc bad elitism

[lyric latch]

Never. He achieved permanent [Empyrean of Truth] state.

[gritty olive]

idk if ill get SA alter so ill use akbb acount that i borrow again

[drifting quest]

PoL Seaborn again

[smoky quarry]

We are Empire???

[drifting quest]

So true

It's never been so true

[smoky quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/fentcord-true-coyote-gif-2599436844608872721

[drifting quest]

Cute cat

[smoky quarry]

that's texas

[drifting quest]

Sorry

You're right

You're always so right

[smoky quarry]

i am moderate right, how did you knew?

[wild rose]

It's not right to assume someone's political position like that, Shuo

[drifting quest]

Im sorry

If you say it then it must be the case

[smoky quarry]

you are right

[honest hill]

no one is wrong

[warped idol]

when is the new docs coming shuo

[smoky quarry]

right now

[honest hill]

what new docs?

[warped idol]

[drifting quest]

I stopped it obviously

[warped idol]

[drifting quest]

That would be too elitist for this server

[smoky quarry]

cause it is elitist?

[warped idol]

sad

iana's would be expiring soon

[honest hill]

[drifting quest]

Everyones opinion is equally correct and valid

[honest hill]

guys we don't need docs anymore think for urself

yes

[drifting quest]

So they dont need any docs

[honest hill]

exactly

[smoky quarry]

shuo, you know why typing in this chat is elitist? Cause some people can't, they are help banned

[warped idol]

I cant just link iana's doc anymore

[honest hill]

it's prob deleted

wait

Ithrene??

[bronze plume]

its there

[smoky quarry]

he's spying on us

@dusk isle say hi

[honest hill]

oh he can't

[smoky quarry]

HE IS HELP BANNED LMFAO

[drifting quest]

That's so true

[bronze plume]

who tf is itheren

[smoky quarry]

He was hanging around help chats a lot

sometimes in tc too

[wild rose]

green house

[bronze plume]

that doesnt

[drifting quest]

You got it

[chilly bolt]

how did he get banned

justiceforgreenman

[drifting quest]

Good point

[warped idol]

the last last rite main is gone

[chilly bolt]

it should be temporary ban

[honest hill]

we still have @edgy crater

[chilly bolt]

otherwise me riot

[edgy crater]

[drifting quest]

Good point

[warped idol]

[edgy crater]

what?

[honest hill]

actually nvm

hnaf is a fraud

[edgy crater]

im playing monopysical right now

[honest hill]

yeah you're a fraud

[drifting quest]

W take

[honest hill]

da pan?

[warped idol]

as far as buffing is concerned is Ardelia better than Akekuri for a Pog - Chen - Lifeng team with Chen mdps?

[drifting quest]

If you want it to be then it is

[edgy crater]

both but still endmin right now

[warped idol]

assuming Akekuri have s4 thermite and frontiers

and Ardelia p1

[lyric latch]

I never left LR team but I am a fraud in this channel. Barely did any calcs

[honest hill]

I see

[drifting quest]

Great insight

[chilly bolt]

cant agree more

[honest hill]

Zhuang will powercreep tf out of all the dps in the game including rossi

[lyric latch]

I may change my team when Mi Fu drops… unless she is Cryo then Cryo forever!

[honest hill]

[drifting quest]

Very true

[edgy crater]

not even calc, just retest it until it works

[honest hill]

[smoky quarry]

Guys, I think shuo likes endfield

[drifting quest]

You got it

[smoky quarry]

He will stay for 2.0 cause I said so

[honest hill]

until eos

[lyric latch]

may his soul find a little bit of excitement when CC arrives

[smoky quarry]

imagine if it is worse than survival challenge

is it even possible to fumble this much?

[lyric latch]

It would certainly be one fumble for the ages

[wild rose]

You're using that Thermite on Pog alr

Ardelia should be pretty significantly higher damage, but has you unable to use Chen's Battle Skill nearly as many times. If you can end the fight fast she should be better

[drifting quest]

Good insight

Well done

[smoky quarry]

Shatter Team is T0.5

[drifting quest]

Great point

[smoky quarry]

is it possible to ragebait shuo?

[wild rose]

I'd almost start praising you back, but I'm unsure how much of this is empty praise

[bronze plume]

90% of it

[smoky quarry]

i thought 99%

[chilly bolt]

shuo in the process of trauma recovery

[drifting quest]

Be the ragebaiter you always wanted to be

[sterile patrol]

does crit tangtang still work on ragebaiting shuo

[drifting quest]

I believe in you

[wild rose]

Let's see

[chilly bolt]

we need rell myers

[smoky quarry]

I am not a ragebaiter, I am not a hyperbaiter

I am master baiter

[bronze plume]

guoba can you fix shuo plz

[hearty tree]

Crit ZFY surely

[drifting quest]

If you believe in it then it must be good

[smoky quarry]

3x pulser on ZFY

Is best set pick

slab for fourth slot

[hearty tree]

Or full on Ult Efficiency on her

[smoky quarry]

good point

[hearty tree]

Just like max Pot Lae

[drifting quest]

Great takes

Super job

[smoky quarry]

awesome gives

[chilly bolt]

absolutely on point

[wild rose]

I think I'll just go for 4 Swordsmancer for mine, it fits her green colour scheme best, so it's probably her BiS as well

[bronze plume]

💀

[echo cove]

great choice

[hearty tree]

Nah, Eternal Xiranite's the way

[smoky quarry]

If you believe in it then it must be good

[hearty tree]

Fits her colours better

[echo cove]

If you believe in it then it must be good

[hearty tree]

she does get Electric amp based on her BP Arts Unit somehow

[lyric latch]

all out on Ult Dmg %

[chilly bolt]

I am of the opinion that this is a valid assertion

[echo cove]

Great takes

[hearty tree]

Wonder how her energy generation is like tbh

Da Pan and Avywenna don't have bloated ult costs

While LR, Yvonne and Lae play around with energy

[wild rose]

Charging up her Ultimate is most likely wholly unnecessary

[drifting quest]

So true

[echo cove]

good observation

[hearty tree]

[lusty kernel]

Is the red knights story permanent?

[hearty tree]

Ye

[drifting quest]

If you believe it is then it is

[lusty kernel]

No i mean theres a timer on it

Once its up does the availability of the event go away?

[drifting quest]

Whatever you think is right

[wispy shuttle]

the event goes away but the quest unlocks once you reach the prerequisites

[soft tendon]

@wild rose i did a test with syne and it seems 1 ebs 1 cs 2 ts is enough with the lae whel build

Seems like p1 lae still gets 6.5 ult energy from initial skill but everyone else gets 5.2

[wild rose]

huh

I see

Good to know

[dry kindle]

Vs 1 enemy right

[limpid rock]

yea, rhodagn

[dry kindle]

The math be not mathing

[drifting quest]

So true

[limpid rock]

here's the vid
https://streamable.com/zscrh4

[wispy shuttle]

does laev cs give a base 10 energy as well as the additional 25/30/35? or just the 25/30/35?

[drifting quest]

Whatever you want it to

Your opinion is valid

[wispy shuttle]

your spelling is not

[smoky quarry]

If you believe it is not then it is not

[wispy shuttle]

If you believe that your beliefs matter then it is true

[smoky quarry]

It is okay to have wrong opinions

[wispy shuttle]

And it is not wrong to have okay opinions

[chilly bolt]

When did this place become gaslighting contest

[knotty yoke]

Bro can you stop? It’s getting annoying. Every time I see you in here you’re being condescending. Let people have fun and theory craft in their own way, if you don’t like it go “theory craft” somewhere else. Yall are ruining the channel even if it wasn’t great before

[bronze plume]

LMAO

[knotty yoke]

I come in here and every time I see the same person regurgitating the same 3 lines. Tired of scrolling through that crap

[soft tendon]

This is probably the explanation for it

@limpid rock

[wild rose]

The part about the BS is also true though

[river ermine]

i see you guys are talking about laev

[river ermine]

p1 laev will get 6.5 when she cast it

but when ebs hit (106.5 energy) she will return 20sp

the next skill cast will use that returned 20sp hence 5.2 for everyone after that ebs

[wild rose]

Incredible stuff

[dry kindle]

Not

[wild rose]

Is it?

[river ermine]

although i dont rly know about cs having initial 10

[wild rose]

I can't test cause no P4 just yet but

[soft tendon]

This might be the case (?)

[gritty olive]

its not

[soft tendon]

[gritty olive]

cs laev is not an additive energy count to the intrinsic 10

[river ermine]

from my understanding it shouldnt

[river ermine]

yeh this

[gritty olive]

its 25/30/35 based on enemy count

[wild rose]

well further means additional but it's prob true that it doesn't work that way

I'll go delete that reply

[dry kindle]

Apparently returned sp is on bar

I don't wanna test

[river ermine]

its also used first apparently

[soft tendon]

Ok i understand the issue now

I feel so dumb

https://tenor.com/view/yvonne-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-try-not-to-laugh-gif-262934056176593840

Ebs is last so the 5.2 skill will be during ult

Actual chen moment my god

[sterile moat]

Me when tt gives wildly inconsistent sp gain from run to run

Getting screwed by the sp refunds

[bold rose]

channel is so dead

fuck it I'm inciting discourse

[smoky quarry]

I prefer 110% keyboard with additional buttons

There's never enough keys for binds and macroses

[sour gazelle]

I only use the one built into my laptop

[coral panther]

Shut wrong chat

Mb

[chilly bolt]

Shuo slander will not be tolerated

[knotty yoke]

It’s not slander, it’s calling out annoying and childish behavior. God forbid anyone wants to be excited and theorycraft (there’s nothing else to do in this game atp besides theorycrafting and looking forward to new units) and any time anyone tries to start a discussion or share ideas we got certain people repeating the same thing and clogging the chat and being disrespectful

Nobody wants to hear it. It’s all I see every time I come in this chat. It wasn’t funny the first time and it still isn’t… imagine that

[pure spoke]

i have no problems with shuo. but i gotta agree

just turn down the sarcasm

[honest hill]

He has been doing it a lot recently

[pure spoke]

what happened tho?

[chilly bolt]

childhood trauma

[pure spoke]

did a mod give hima strike and he went mad?

[chilly bolt]

poor shuo

[honest hill]

he keeps saying the same things over an over again

[pure spoke]

so he is like me with "HELP"?

[honest hill]

Kinda?

[elfin smelt]

ew you

[pure spoke]

i actually asked help for once

[chilly bolt]

[bronze plume]

someone called shuo a elitist because shuo said they dont like the whole feelscrafting that comes when talking about teams, builds etc. that comes with characters we dont have numbers for
and some said stop being a elitist trying to say what we can and cant talk about type shit
(basically)

[pure spoke]

i see thx

[pure spoke]

someone gave me a link.

[still mason]

theres always some shit going on in this channel when i lurk

[bronze plume]

welcome to #help +

[pure spoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1490790612159566070/W.gif

[lost void]

Any sim on Barge vs Oblivion for Fangyi? What's the overall percentage difference bet. P0 & Max for both?

[bronze plume]

we do not know the numbers on barge

there is literally 0 way to calculate this question

[chilly bolt]

It's gonna be 93% for bp weapon

[lyric latch]

We don’t have the numbers yet. But Oblivion isn’t looking good anyways because it has Int as main stat and FANGYI uses Will instead.

[chilly bolt]

I made that up

[lost void]

No dataminers yet?

[bronze plume]

dataminers dont get numbers

[chilly bolt]

.datamine

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086674729865226/1329386702946566206/unknown-1.png

[lost void]

Do you think Fangyi is no Int user and probably Agi Will instead?

[bronze plume]

i have no idea what she will use besides will cuz thats her main stat

[chilly bolt]

New gears are will int so ...

[lost void]

Xiranite is definitely Int centric and UGE. Fangyi will definitely benefit a lot with faster Ult cycle.

[bronze plume]

me when a characters whos dps primary comes from ult would like to ult

[outer ermine]

looks doable w/o ult 2nd phase

[bronze plume]

hes ulting it hes ulting it

[lyric latch]

Her main stats is definitely Will.

[bronze plume]

is this what money does to a mf

makes them use shatter

[outer ermine]

been using shatter smh

[lost void]

Usually Will mainstat are support right?

[bronze plume]

bro started at the bottom and hasnt moved smh

[bronze plume]

there is literally 0 correlation to a characters mainstat and their "primary" role

[warped idol]

theres no data to mine

if there's data it'd be after update/maintanance

[bronze plume]

and id just be on the upcoming events

[warped idol]

[bronze plume]

remember people

save yo wuling stockbills

[warped idol]

[bronze plume]

actually are they adding anything to valley stockbills

or is it just those useless decoration things

[echo cove]

Just deco am p sure?

[warped idol]

that's wuling tho

[echo cove]

There was 1 or 2 sold in valley iirc

[bronze plume]

they are in the valley 4 shop

[warped idol]

you can always buy sanity tickets I guess

[echo cove]

Majority in wuling, but there r sum sold for like...

I think 20 mil? In v4?

Or was it 30?

[bronze plume]

brought them in 1.0

thats it im buying more valley detectors

[echo cove]

Can we convert valley detector to wuling?

[bronze plume]

no

[echo cove]

I'll me 30m v4 bill for converting fee for each detector

[lime bear]

don't forget to save some Wuling bills

to upgrade shit

[bronze plume]

and to also let the stock bill savings in the outpost we do have stock up a bit to get lots of xp to lvl 4 it instantly

[pure spoke]

thx i totally forgot

broke rn

[drifting berry]

Is in Japanese so has to be true

[signal palm]

wtf tang tang sahur

[drifting quest]

Great take

[outer ermine]

i need a 400k crush

cant even practice 3rd phase rot lol cant kill

breaking to 50 might be hard actually

even w good phase switch rng

[daring dove]

Breaking 50 for what are you fighting fidget spinner or something.

[outer ermine]

w shatter yea

i should be able to get a competitive time

[daring dove]

Only advice I have is fuck fidget spinner.

I hate that guy.

[outer ermine]

fund me p5 repute

[daring dove]

I haven't even finish my own yet.

Got sidetracked with Fangyi pre-farm.

[drifting quest]

W

[outer ermine]

i need this witchcraft where r u getting the rss

[midnight geyser]

I wonder how high the crit rate% for rossi could theoretically be if you fully essence lupine scarlet, artifice all M1 Security gear, and max out rossi's skills

with all her abilities, set effects and stuff it sounds like you could crit like crazy

and also gain heals from that

[drifting quest]

Sounds like you're onto something

[honest hill]

Translate it

[honest hill]

You should be funding me

[midnight geyser]

also potential 2 rossi for +7% more crit rate

[daring dove]

It's 93% for P2 Rossi 85% for PO?

[drifting quest]

So true

[midnight geyser]

oo

sounds really good

[daring dove]

+30% when her double combo skill buff is activate.

So 93.4%.

[midnight geyser]

crit chance consumables when

[uneven flax]

How'd you manage to make that image? An in-game thing or something?

[daring dove]

https://enka.network/

[daring dove]

Just paste your UID into the site, have the character in your 4 character showcase slots.

[drifting quest]

Superb understanding

Well done

[midnight geyser]

looking at it again, you could slot out some of the gear to crit chance so maybe 100% is possible?

[daring dove]

It's possible just sub-optimal & will hurt your damage a lot more than it helps.

As the other pieces with CR don't have correct sub-stats.

[midnight geyser]

true

[smoky quarry]

imagine if endfield had this integrated, so you don't have to use third party sites to showcase your build in one picture

[daring dove]

To be fair Genshin community still had to use this, an that games 6 years old so I don't blame them too much.

[midnight geyser]

after hearing about a player not getting a drop after 7 years due to % chance i always opt for 100% whenever possible even if suboptimal

[compact bridge]

But genshin also provide their community to show their build with hoyolab tho

[uneven flax]

Question for the super number crunchers, do you guys typically use your own sheets, and if so what things do you typically factor in? (Speed of attacks, SP efficiency, damage increase per potential etc.)

[honest hill]

we got smoll playerbase so I doubt that many ppl use skport

[drifting quest]

There's unironically one other person left who does this

Not the channel to ask if you want that

[uneven flax]

Where would I ask about sheets and numbers besides here? No sarcasm, genuinely want to know

[drifting quest]

Another server

The community here was systematically pushed out

[uneven flax]

Why? Seems like an odd thing to do

If people want to figure out the best teams or see what a meme team could do in theory, what's the harm?

[drifting quest]

Dont ask me

Ask the people who did it

[daring dove]

Lets make one thing clear, if people left because they didn't want to participate or discuss with certain community members. That's entirely on them. Nobody forced anyone to leave people just didn't like to be challenged so showed themselves to the door. At the end of the day if you can't take criticism or don't want to debate people the worse place you could possibly be is in a theory crafting channel. That's my 2 cents.

[drifting quest]

if you say so that must be the case

[knotty yoke]

Bro stop.

You’re so irritating, if it’s so horrible here then go elsewhere

[drifting quest]

that's not very inclusive of you

[knotty yoke]

I’ll just report you till you get banned 👍🏼 it’s harassment at this point

[wild rose]

what a kind and thoughtful person

[knotty yoke]

You steamroll over every single person that comes in here to theorycraft. How much more condescending and rude can you be?

[drifting quest]

When have I ever been either

All I've done is praise people and state facts

If you have an issue with that you're just as free to leave

[rare rover]

yo whats happening here?

[drifting quest]

nothing

[rare rover]

[knotty yoke]

No dude you’re being sarcastic and putting everybody down just for sharing ideas

[drifting quest]

If you say so I won't refute it

[wild rose]

That's just how you're taking it

[knotty yoke]

There’s no reason to be mean to people just for asking a question and being part of the community

[daring dove]

I wouldn't say it's deserving of a ban but the routine is getting old to be honest. There's inherent sarcasm implied in almost everything you have posted for the past 2 days. I get your pissed off but nobody stopped any theory crafting happening here. People simply decided they where too good for this place an took their business elsewhere. Why we have to keep reliving this drama is beyond me.

[rare rover]

im sensing two great paragraphs coming

and there it is

one more incoming

[drifting quest]

you're right I and everyone else should double down on platitudes

[rare rover]

or not

[drifting quest]

thank you for your insight I will do better from now on

[swift onyx]

Leave it be peeps

Its fine

[wild rose]

taking personal issue with what someone else is doing when they're not interfering with you is kind of foolish in my opinion

[honest hill]

drama happens when there is no gacha content

[drifting quest]

lack of content is only really an issue for people who make it

[knotty yoke]

He is interfering with everyone in this channel. People come here to theorycraft and he chases them out and treats them like they’re stupid. So they leave. So now all that happens here is his one liners that were never funny

[rare rover]

half and half, the other half being some people didnt want to deal with people who were clueless to how their guides work

cough that one time iana got clowned for her energy build by that one guy i cannot remember

[wild rose]

You'd be right about that if there was anything to theorycraft

[drifting quest]

there's a ton to tc

people just dont want to actually tc

[wild rose]

ow

fair

[drifting quest]

its also elitist to tc anyway

[rare rover]

its a chat thats not that busy so people do use it for regular chatting sometimes

[drifting quest]

that was never the issue with the channel

[honest hill]

why is it so depressing here all the time lol

[wild rose]

Do you have any fix in mind for this channel?

[drifting quest]

no

the stuff that would actually solve the issues would be unpopular with the people who are part of the problem

and stuff that tries to please everyone solves nothing

there's a reason you can backscroll and see maybe 1 out of 1000 messages be actual tc

and then you have the faux tc that's all vibescrafted that people will pass off as tc

[rare rover]

[drifting quest]

and you can get into endless arguments about whether the latter has a place here

but ultimately it caused people who actually tc to leave and find places where actually tc'ing happens

damage is done

pessimist approach but changes to promote that sort of environment here again are unlikely because the issues are numerous

but it doesnt matter anyway because a majority of people do not care

the channel exists for people to ego themselves or bitch with people who disagree

it has for months

trying to be a positive change just leads to harassment and insults

[rare rover]

tbf itd probably be better to find a server dedicated for tc than a whole discord server where tc is a sub category

that way u can avoid "bothersome" people

[drifting quest]

trying to be a negative change just leads to harassment and insults

i mean yeah there's a reason everyone is in sub servers now

the community as a whole sucks to the point where people arent willing to let new people into the space either because its been historically bad

so the only hope to actually see the community grow is to try get public servers to be a less hostile space

[wild rose]

Do you think this is an issue of this server in particular, or with most large official game discord servers? Do you know of any that have avoided issues like this?

[drifting quest]

oh its 100% this server

there's other decent public spaces

they're just less active

lack of moderation is a huge issue in the festering of this subsection of the server

[wild rose]

Do you personally still hold any hope of this subsection of the server improving?

[drifting quest]

If I didn't I wouldn't be here

[rare rover]

again im sensing one great paragraph in the makings

[drifting quest]

I'm certainly done with personal efforts though

Scrapped the stuff I was working on

I'm waiting purely because of the assumption new mods would be coming in sometime soo

if they dont come soon then i just leave and things move on

i certainly dont have the ego to assume im required here, it would be a better place without me even

[swift onyx]

Nope it wouldnt
Stay pookie

[drifting quest]

If I get banned as a result of the platitudes over the past 24h or so but it actually gets mods to be here then I'd say that's a win

But otherwise I will, like everyone else, just move to subservers

some of the fangyi stuff dropped early so I've been looking into that

[wild rose]

Do you have any subservers in mind that you'd like to share here?

[drifting quest]

they're all invite only

[daring dove]

So that's irrelevant to the conversation then.

[drifting quest]

maygi's is chill for tc stuff

guoba's is dead but generally more chill when it has moments of activity

prydwen's isnt bad but doesnt have a dedicated tc section

[daring dove]

Cool, but do me a favor. Can you stop dissing the people that remain here & pretending like your invite-only special discord servers are the only place for high-minded discussions.

[drifting quest]

I don't believe I have ever directly dissed anyone nor said that subservers are the only place but pop off

[knotty yoke]

People can read between the lines… stop acting like we’re all stupid

[drifting quest]

You're finding fault because you want to have a reason to find fault

[knotty yoke]

Like you’re the only one who knows anything. It’s insufferable

[drifting quest]

others have successfully managed to take what I say at face value

it's not my fault if you cannot do that too

[rare rover]

ladies ladies, lets take a moment to breath and chill out

[knotty yoke]

Nah the last thing I want to do is argue on discord but at this moment, YOU are the problem with this channel

[drifting quest]

I very much agree I am part of problem

but you didnt read that part so I get it

its easier to be negative than try be productive

ignore the fact my issue has repeatedly been this exact situation

[knotty yoke]

I think you need a break from discord, I’ll leave it there. I’m not gonna argue with children. Gl with your pulls tomorrow

[drifting quest]

smart

[daring dove]

Maybe not but it's implied in what you're saying. I personally I have zero grievances against you Shuo & have largely ignored your lack of contribution to any discussion meaningfully for the last 24 or so hours. An I'm the last person to ever report anymore. All I'm saying is please try to contribute or if you don't feel like it don't be sarcastic to the people that are trying. 👍

[drifting quest]

You can always say the way I word things are bad, I'm certainly not perfect. But nitpicking the things rather than actually trying to address the root issues is entirely as unproductive as me bitching about said issues

it is what it is

[rare rover]

ladies chill

[honest hill]

I hope it's less miserable when Zhuang Fangyi comes out

[drifting quest]

I'd like to think I previously put an honest effort in, I was willing to take over from Iana in maintaining community docs and I never actually had issue with feelscrafting itself, only feelscrafting presented as theorycrafting or unreleased stuff being pushed as fact

[rare rover]

oh right fangyi comes out soon

[drifting quest]

But it is what it is

[rare rover]

lets see if my luck continues to bless me

[drifting quest]

behaviour from the past 24hr is just me stopping trying to take things seriously

the bit has run its course I will simply cease

someone else can replace iana's doc

[rare rover]

shuo shuo. buddy, overdoing it at this pt man

[drifting quest]

maybe but

[rare rover]

everyone got your pt

[drifting quest]

i get it out now

i dont have to later

nothing will be solved from what ive said but at least I feel better about it

[wild rose]

I wish you luck in your future endeavours

[drifting quest]

im still around in the other 3 servers mentioned

ill probably post datamines in one of them

i dont know if the numbers we have right now are fake, leaks or datamine

[wild rose]

Duly noted, will be keeping an eye out for that

[warped sorrel]

i been trying to find that information for days

[drifting quest]

the ones i saw only came out a couple hours ago

[warped sorrel]

I havnt saw any
I heard about it 12hours ago

[drifting quest]

will find out for sure in a while

[lyric latch]

remember to fill out the discord survey and state your complaints if you guys haven't already: #🎁discord-survey message

[smoky quarry]

Nah, they don't give shit for this survey

And I don't believe in lotteries

[drifting quest]

they've had my complaints directly a couple times already

not sure if anything was done with them

[normal tangle]

nah that was just the owner not gryph

it's different

bring it to hr and they'll handle it fr

[drifting quest]

afaik gl staff have seem them too

but maybe not

[normal tangle]

if you're talking about when you just spoke to the guy here, most likely not

[smoky quarry]

nothing personal, just business

[normal tangle]

bro is not going through the effort to forward the specific complaints of some random guy

[drifting quest]

no

these were older cases

[smoky quarry]

Anyway, do you think that CMs are actually GL employees, or they just cosplay them?

I think of the latter one

[drifting quest]

Community Managers? As in Supervisors?

if thats the case they're not paid by GL afaik

[smoky quarry]

so they have no actual link to developers, got it

[drifting quest]

thats at least my understanding yes

they have a direct line to contact GL but aren't directly affiliated

[smoky quarry]

Is there any answer to why shuo is so egotesticle?

[drifting quest]

i am struggling with the idea that is intentional vs that it is not

both are

something

[smoky quarry]

Breathe out, it is supposed to be a joke

[limpid shadow]

has someone already applied geometry theory on the most optimal pathing for the final survival training stage

[drifting quest]

the question is do you mean egotistical or egoistical

[smoky quarry]

By dictionary, they mean the same. The difference is that one is used more commonly than another

[drifting quest]

Nuanced differences as far as I am aware, maybe difference in dictionary maybe I'm just wrong

[normal tangle]

gilberta procs chiv, yeah?

is there anything preventing antal from proccing chiv and then running deto unit on perl instead

[drifting quest]

chiv procs on skills
gilb talent upgrades gilb skills
antal talent is only talent

antal cannot proc chiv

same reason ardelia cannot proc it

[normal tangle]

🎋

[brisk sluice]

Gil procs chiv

Because her talent actually says "Improves Battle Skill"

Unlike the other healing talent the game considers the healing coming from her skills, not the talent due to that line

Afaik

But needs multiple enemies to proc so not possible in bosses

[edgy crater]

more like how many ange bs u can use

[neon cave]

when it says "effects of the same name" does it mean the term "physical dmg dealt" or does it mean "flow: reincarnation"?

[normal tangle]

the latter

[neon cave]

noice alryt thanks

[hallow lynx]

what are peoples day one fangyi teams going to look like

[burnt bough]

I'm probably just gonna use my f2p electro team sans Avywenna

[daring dove]

The most reasonable assumption I can think of right now, Fangyi / Perlica / Ardelia / Akekuri.

[burnt bough]

might also just swap perlica out for Avy

Akekuri is sadly stuck on my Rossi team so I'm gonna have to improvise lol

Mostly thinking Fangyi / Avy / Arclight / Antal

simply b/c Avy isn't an SP drain

and Fangyi already needs a lot of SP

[hallow lynx]

no gilberta?

[burnt bough]

She prob works b/c sp neutral but I dont have her prf

[daring dove]

Gilberta doesn't seem like the obvious pick here she kind of has a little anti-synergy with Fangyi.

Assuming we can make the SP work Ardelia would be the better choice.

[burnt bough]

Fangyi sucks up SP from what I can tell

[drifting berry]

Gilbeta mains in shambles after the first dps not wanting her in their teams.

[burnt bough]

she's had her time, she'll be fine lol

She prob still good for doing the youtube clickbait videos of killing bosses in 10 seconds

[hallow lynx]

ah interesting

why perlica over someone like arclight or avy

i think ill try that team

(fangyi perlica ardelina akekuri)

[burnt bough]

Perlica I find kinda iffy myself tbh

It's mostly looking at it from a "people might not have these units (or have them built)"

[pure spoke]

Mi FU when

[burnt bough]

at the earliest late May prob

[pure spoke]

[burnt bough]

if she's the first of the 3 units shown

[drifting quest]

7 Week Patch to get through first

[warped idol]

how will you get swords without Perlica?

are you doing full ult start?

[burnt bough]

I dunno

[honest hill]

no sword gameplay

no damage gameplay

[burnt bough]

I'm just debating what teams are viable for me to build

[warped idol]

brave

[burnt bough]

I'm just worried perlica takes too much SP

since Fangyi is already SP hungry

[warped idol]

from the """"feelscrafting"""" i've done perlica is pretty much mandatory unless you're going for speedkill

[burnt bough]

Is swords only from electrification?

[honest hill]

perli only need to do cs for electrification

[warped idol]

from zfy battle skill hitting enemies with electrification

you can either: use perlica cs to get electrification

[burnt bough]

..yeah ok

[warped idol]

or convert 1 electric inflict into electrification with zfy's combo skill and then consume with battle skill

both of which requires Perlica

[burnt bough]

Hmm

So I guess Arclight won't work either then

b/c of her ult consuming electrification

[warped idol]

dont get me wrong arclight will still give you sp

it's just that she wont proc trekker ever

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541760801968128/1492862876828962836/arclight.gif

[burnt bough]

yeah but that's kinda a waste

oh my god

[honest hill]

also if u use arclight her ult requires electric infliction on enemy for her to apply elec

[burnt bough]

I didn't know the Arclight hater lore

[warped idol]

her ult gives you infliction for free tho

[honest hill]

electrification

[warped idol]

yeah and it also converts to electrification after a bit

[honest hill]

oh

[burnt bough]

So I guess.. Fangyi / perl / ??? / ???

[warped idol]

she's ""good"" for zfy's team but only because of her ult

[honest hill]

good and arclight

[warped idol]

tbh Gilberta is still a choice

[burnt bough]

What weapon do I use if not her prf?

[warped idol]

you just use her ult when you're doing the 9 swords battle skill

[warped idol]

for who?

[burnt bough]

gilb

[warped idol]

stanza

[honest hill]

everyone gonna use gilb

[warped idol]

it's kind of like Yvonne situation. You figure out when to optimally press Gilb ult

[burnt bough]

Right...