#theorycrafting
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i spend everything
i have spent money, but that was mostly a bit from my last bonus from my last job, new job is gonna be a couple of months until i am close to my old pay
so my spending is going to be very limited from here on
understandable
Its prydwen sooooo

prydwens littered with a bunch of small errors
they only push out site updates in batches, it seems
but some errors have been there for weeks to months so i wouldnt be hopeful at corrections
Don't suppose we have a generally agreed upon list of weapons worth investing in?
Figure I should get essences for all of the good ones while I farm
I don't think/I haven't seen any list like that, if anything you can check on pins and see which weapons are recommended for each character and farm that.
Only as far as the generics which is a very short list
shit burned all my neurons
that stage really felt like a race to kill 1 flamer
"is he gonna keep spinning like that"
mf cancels 90% of territory around him just by existing
I ended that stage with only ardelia left hanging on by a thread lmao
we get cryptic 2
hope its fun event too
Bird umbral was neat, with the chains
I feel I cheated the minotaur boss by having him shoot the wall behind me
u can cheese his atk pattern tho
big fan of the idea a bull is in heat
Did we ever get anymore info on Rossi
Ever since the reveal of her abilties n stuff
Do we know where she’s going
nope
until she releases we wont either
what determines her place is all numbers and they dont give those out before release
the final day has begun
thats good cause no leaks
no one can farm mats
no one will farm her essense in advance
the bull still sometimes doesn’t enrage even if i run away
agi artzy 
is it? 
maybe lol
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the stage is was so much more fun when i was playing normally 
his atk pattern really different than mine 

oh w8 yeah, u trigger the distance atk stance, its should be triggering his enraged 
also if u attack from dat side, does the bull jump back after recovering from stagger?

idk i reset if he doesn’t die after stagger 😭
don’t think so though
cause the attack is canceled
mustve been dps diff
i dont have lifeng. but even if i do, i cant replicate that. taking advantage of the enrage state(removed his own def buff) duration to use the combo rotation is insane
u always can with lifeng
you can do it faster with shatter or something
so you don’t have to wait for him to combust
nah i think the combust is the perfect timing to do all the combos cause he removed all his def buffs
but he must be stagged to do that
he didn’t do the attack
completely cancelled
nah, u can stagger him before enraged anyway
i mean after cancelled
yeah he just starts gaining fire stacks again
I see, thank you
so do i even have to calc now 
hmm dats kinda weird
not enough damage 
yeah but the chen ult, endmin ult and crush need to be activated in the combustion state
too much res
gulden almost 1 rot mino 
nah, u can ulti chen before enraged
even yz’s p5 lr barely did it before enrage
my time is slower than lappland
oh u still up lol
im done crit fishing man
true, but the final strike of the ult should be at enrage state for more dmg

have to crit fish everything to get it before enrage and even then it’s not guaranteed 
nah, before enraged at all

before enrage? i don't think enough damage
need to time perfectly when the bull does combustion attack
before enrage (4stacks of def)
bro ur dmg tickles him if u do that
yeah 
i got pretty close with 3 crits
i aint gonna do crit fishing 3 times in a single run 
not enough big hits to kill it even if another thing crits
nah u can

im tired, boss 
ill try monophys ember if i can do the same
you can probably replicate the 51s run though
and get it even faster
nothing needs to crit
ok nvm
this run is not possible for me
because my chen still aint p3 lmfao wheres my ult
or p4 rather
well yeah but I haven't whaled for anyone yet
first will probably be fangyi
yeah i gotta slow down my stagger, i rushed them
I mostly just collect p0 for now
rossie is so cute 10/10 pull
valley iv mascot vs wuling mascot
p2w dmg
wait shouldn’t it still be possible with an ult gain armor piece
maybe with an ult gain kit idk
not with the yinglung chest tho
cause what, it's 5s2c = 52.5 energy which hits the 59.5 ult cost with ult charge chest but no shot anywhere close to 70
5s3c
you can do an extra combo, it’s going to be up again by the time the bull combusts
we already got these like
a long long time ago
probably got leaked a month ago or sumn by now
which stat then
i dont rememebr it was a month ago
||int, crit, fracture it was datamined ages ago||
and I'm also not sitting through 3 hours of waiting for him to not jump out of a breach or something
intellect
my hi3 days are behind me 
wasn’t it ||agi||
you have to get it before he gains the first stack again
cant lie
for no crit
tbf if youre hands are old
mmos are the opposite of what you should play with the amount of buttons
unc
me when a mmo mouse has more buttons on it then a keyboard
final fantasy 14 is sub 50 apm for almost every class in the game
thats pretty geriatric
wow would be a diff story
how does the new 3 limited 6 stars yvonne team compared to laev team now
yvonne having back to back to back limited 6 stars is insane
guys fun fact
if you only claim the first 3 daily rewards
you get
670 authority level exp
youre welcome
6 7
Can I ask about Rossi here

you will most likely be hit with we dont know yet awnsers
now if you mean leaks you will get banned
Mmm makes sense
i understand the word, but int? 
its int or agi one of the 2
hello, question for you guys.
Does Eternal Xiranite set apply to self protection? Aka can Ember proc it with her Talent?
so is wulf a must for rossi?
dang im old
we do not know
evidently yes
there have been teams suggested that both include and exclude wulf
if i had to guess she will have a good amount of different playable teams some focusing on heat some on phys some on both
ohh ty. Doesn't apply to her only "Other teammates" ig as indicated by text
ye
Rossi replace Wulf trust
alll to just be worse then the current heat and phys team we have rn
your best bet if you want here to be pure heat would probably be something like
rossi, wulf, ake, flex
unfortunately wulf is like the only one who can reliably spam out combustion for her to do more dmg
tho if said dmg bonus from the enemy having combustion on them is actually worth it we obv dont know yet
maaan i just want rossi is retain wulf combustion and being good at physical at same time
at least become a better wulf in regards
i mean she will probably do both
the team ive seen going around most is
rossi, gilberta, phys consumer, flex
mainly dapan for consume
or hellapog if the atk bonus he gives is good enuf because good chance rossi doesnt take breach well
just pull right now on tt banner

ive gotten so insanely lucky with this game its amazing
best gacha game (ever until i get a losing streak)
i dont really care about the gacha but the economy still problematic
oh well their game is overall good
same, for the most part
you can throw the gacha economy to trash and all they did actually good thing
the only thing that's completely eaten my ass was lr sig
everything else I've had unusually good luck
by my standards
apparently i slammed into a wall
tho i must say the resources to upgrade is insanely high, but i guess that just how arknight is afterall
ember really only have slightly over 26k as the maximum hp she can have
if counting pot2
This ember build ult shield could face tank the trilagos insta kill pulse?
haven't tested
does hp better than final dmg reduction?
BA if you really like to play Yvonne I guess
hmm we should get lupine scarlet info in around 5-6 hours
in my lr tang^2 xaihi perlica team, who should i normal atk chain with? I get lr does a lot of dmg, but tangtang as well and she is ranged making atking easier
if you want to be optimal you alternate between the 2 for maximizing xaihi's skill buff, but you can just play either of them and wont lose much it all comes down to preference, personally i control lr since i have her basic M3 
K got it this means I need to m3 both
you can get like most of the value from swapping to lr before her cs and ult
since it sounds like you prefer to control tt
i think at equal investment lr is slightly better due to her basics scaling
swapping after final strike isn't that bad...
it even cancels the endlag of the attack
Nah man I play on mobile
okay that's probably cancer
u have a whole hand doing nothing but holding ba
should I m3 tang's combo for that -1s cd
ehh
if you feel like you're spending too much time/effort delaying your xaihi cs then it'll help with that...but it's kind of a marginal benefit
It depends on your team too. Might not be relevant for your specific rotation.
Probably a bigger deal if you have p1.
i think most tt rotations are bottlenecked by SP rather than combo timings
what replacing vg with sp-return does to a mf
As far as how weapons go, I presume Rossi’s weapon will be fully to just buff herself after ecs/consuming arts infliction
(and something else as the second 3rd stat, not sure what it will be)
atk%

after ECS; increase ult heat dmg
or rather
after regular combo skill idk?
Yeah the “ecs” isn’t the term for any stat buffs iirc (same goes for ebs like for arclight), so it will be more of arts infliction consumption by this logic
whatever it is it's gonna have heat dmg somewhere otherwise chen's gonna have two bis in one patch 
wth is this
thats what i said
U saying she's future proof?
I already have laev team btw
not very likely but yv tt - lr tt should be good til 2.
Well, so far all content has been hilariously easy
i meant if a new limited isnt surpassing old unit thats actually sad
Tt is quite good for all cryo teams including as main dps
yeah she have decent dmg herself too
I do want lightning lady and maybe Rossi if she's gud
good aoe, freeze, cryo suscep, quick inflict
It does seem probable that zhuang will want mi fu, so keep that in mind
or even the bird one
consume inflict to generate phys stack
Amber finally have usage?
So she's part of the phys team?
not a mono phys one
she still need infliction
Pog is red therefore he in rossi team
Ah so kinda hybrid
Hmmm
pw.css im tired i think i can solo triangalos with ardelia but the timing is hrad to do
Yeah its easier than it sound
The first phase i did it faster than last rite cause she can interrupt the red circle thingy easily
So his stagger go up fast
The second phase is easier than it sound but i have to get the timing that he hitable right to stagger him the horde phase already reduce his hp by like 40-50% so ifi stagger once we balls
I have no idea if she can hit it in third phase but she is ranged i just hope mr.dolly fluff tracking his cloaking ass
I will try it next week then,the meat supplies is going low and i watiing for weekly reset for jacob legacy
If I get tangtang would I still be able to get mufi and zhuang? I currently have 134 pulls
We don't know when their banners are, but probably not 100%
Use your gambler mentallity
And let it lead your way

Avg is 82 pulls per limited iirc but going for one without 120 is risky
just pray
Limited???
Tbh garunteed one i believed but to get both i not sure
Chance are fangyi might not be in banner soon
Idk
But i cant think ofother operator anywa
Its highly likely 1.2 will be Mi Fu/Fang Yi tbh. Considering we have 0 info on the last 2 characters teased
So if I skip 1.1 do I have a better chance?
actually- I wonder 
I waiting for X(W reconveners) i just imagined she would name X instead
My mentality is alwyas waifu first
Hopefully I don't regret this
Do you have team for tangtang tho?
I do have Yvonne and still have selector
For lr
Im imagine you get tantagn by losing 50/50 anyway,fate is funny
Tho no gilb
Don't she get phase out after 1.1?
wym phase out?
Does lae and gib is out of banner?
no? gil still there
So you can still randomly get them right
Uhh
Lae's gone. Gil leaves after Rossi's banner comes, then Yvonne leaves at the start of 1.2
Wasn't this a complain about gacha
yes, there is a chance
Yeah she'd be there in the first banner, gone for the 2nd
Hopefully it's fangyi first
Featured Ops stay for their banner + the next 2 banners
sadly i burned my pity and got spooked by yvonne
probably won't get rossi
unless the gods bless me on the dossier
im doing a total of 40 pulls next banner
i'm gonna get whatever they give me lol
I aint sleepin tonight. Ill pull once the banner starts 
in 21 hours for asia, and ~22 for NA/eu
I think?
more like 32 hours for NA
cant maths right now 
34 for na/eu. 13 hours after asia
sleep while you can
Just stay up for 21 hours 
Saving for Rossi's potential team changes. expires a day after her banner goes live 
TWO HOURS
I have 9 days left on the 30 I have saved, doubt I'll need them but in-case I'm missing some materials kept them. 
I'm putting all mine into glorious memory essence farm. Cursed very low rolls...
at least get ||agl cr frac|| for her wp
why spoiler it kek you can check it ingame
because its from a datamine allllll the way back since 1.0
datamines need to be spoiler tagged so making sure
oh i see ❤️
45s Pan clear. Swapped ult gain gloves on Pog and Pan for more dmg but otherwise the gears are mostly 1.0 gear. Chen has p4 GM though
is pog on swordmancer? getting him staggered might buy you enough time to skip p2 entirely
@gritty olive what is even ur name
He’s on max AI no set. And it’s not skippable unfortunately cos the second Da Pan lands first crush the boss auto transitions. I can reach the stagger if I slow the rotation to let LF ult land the 2nd vuln but it’s too much waiting to be worth it. Also I rather do it legit
what’s not legit about doing enough damage to skip phase 
Also I’m running fortmaker cos no thermite
you can use the first hit of chen’s ult for extra stagger
he takes a while to get back up so the crush should land before cutscene
I wanna clear it the intended way 
The way HG intended 

Guys any tips to clear 2nd stage agony
chen
just take your time idk
Cant even dodge
ehem ember
Ngl i might look into that
or bring 4 defenders and slowly basic attack them to death
what team you using?
as long as someone do physical status
I was trying w laeva giblerta akekuri wolfguard
@rich linden if you using Laevatain use Chen , WUlfguard and Gilberta
or only liftt and down?
U mean crush 2? Not worth cos LF cs isn’t up and Chen only has 2 GM stacks b4 phase 2 arrives. Her Ult dmg is reliant on those 2 unfortunately.
Chen over kuri huh
Chen use battle skill then COmbo to lift 1st guy
then when he landed use Gilberta BS into WUlf combo for Gilberta and Laevatain combo
then back to Chen BS and combo when waitign for their COmbo cooldown
stagger your Chen BS and Chen combo so you get the most out of your CC
when 2nd guy show up try use gilberta and gather both of them
Writing this down
then wulfguard combo lift and repeat
I shall try this
i was doing this on stream yesterday tried to figure out away to hlep laevatain work and that the only way i came up with after 2 days
There's no level requirements to cc right? Like in genshin
easiest way is Yvonne perma freeze
Oh cool do u mayhaps have a timestamp, i can check out
oh well it can't be helped if you don't phase skip
@gaunt mason Setting up 2nd crush needs at least 7s from 1st crush either way
the first crush should kill
buy time for it to land using stagger
Thankss
If I wanted that I would’ve built for a speed kill. The build and gear was made for loopable rotations unfortunately.
the problem with laevatain here is she keep stepping back when Basic atatcks and hurt herself without the CC
She doesss
I was losing my mind
An we still know basically nothing. 
mb i thought it was a speedkill cause of the timer
it's quite difficult to pull off unless you have weapon potentials, but it is doable
managed to clear 28s twice today, although landing the crush so it receives stagger state damage bonus is quite the challenging task when you also have to activate everyone else's ultimates
tang tang tang sahur has no such issues with this boss 
also rip 30 ginsengs
28s trim time?
i’ve only seen a couple of da pan speedkills but they were all whaled

Rossi's release wont really change much
If anything she's a swap in for Lae or makes her own team
I've been had
I'm assuming u cant build up stacks when the enhanced buff is up?
means u wanna time the buff with burst damage
eugh idont like that
Rossi's kit is designed around CS -> BS part 2 -> Ult so you should have the buff up for her burst
now that i know the stats are locked in time to gamble
yeah that sounds simple but it's not exactly flexible
I mean yeah mostly heat dmg
I bet glorious is gonna be close
its likely that her Talent 2 is heat dmg

no
they already her 2nd talent is physical
no
during the 1.1 devblog
They said during the dev log that her talent 2 does damage when she crits
they never said what type
anyways Oh look another chen BiS
Her dot on BS SEQ2 is phys
Talent 2's extra hits on crit is the only part they never specified what type of damage it is
Considering her design around buffing her ult; it's likely Heat DMG
Which is better get? Get first copy of Oblivion or dupe?
save it unless u really need oblivion
what do you mean, thats termite cutter right there
New sig doesn’t look a lot stronger than the BP wp but need to see mults first
goddamnit again with the numbers
I’m guessing it’s gonna cap out at like 60% dmg bonus at N4
Its highly likely that the BP is around 80-90% as strong as the sig
4000% phys and heat dmg boost
It probably has do to something with consuming vuln & arts inf
you think that's an okay sword for laev
That would put her NA, bs and cs above GM but ult is lower mult imo
You’d need to build crit Laev 
does laev even build crit
Rossi sig definitely has strong interaction with application-consumption of vuln stacks & arts inf
Btw if I don't have Laev sig which is good alternative? White Nova or Umbral?
umbral
Chen being able to use every single Phys sword 
Inb4 Lupin scarlet is also bis for Chen
as funny as it might be iont think it's gonna be that good on chen due to the dmg split
You can main field her and it’ll be maxed out on stacks p much permanently
it has downtime
...assuming u cant build up stacks during the enhanced buff
You can stack it back up after the enhanced state using basic attacks
Pretty fast
Unless it has 10 stacks or whatever
Which is unlikely
🤷♂️
It should be worse than BP tho
Cus of the split ye
Unless it’s straight overtuned
Cus Rossi needs the OP weapon
And even then P0 shouldn’t beat P5
did you clear it?
Actually no the split shouldn’t matter
Im still out, will definitely try it once Im home!
np
I don’t think they will nerf the numbers just cus it buffs both stats
Cus Rossi deals either Phys OR Heat
During any skill or ult
at the mercy of numbers yet again
If you nerf the numbers cus of split you gimp too much
curse you HG!
A good example is looking at Umbral torch
It buffs both heat and nature damage very well
It’s not like a “oh nature dmg is wasted”
Cus there’s no unit that has an attack that’s both heat and nature at the same time it won’t be balanced around that
So it should be standalone good numbers wise for both heat and Phys for Rossis weapon
I wouldn’t be surprised if equal potential it beats BP for Chen
P5 vs P0 should just be BP winning tho
She deals both during BS if she applies Lift successfully
also it's likely her Talent 2 is Heat so.
I do have p5 memory but exluding that all of my weapons are p0 except and pogranichnik is p1 (lifeng is p0) which doesn't do anything in terms of damage, would that still be considered whaled
I guess
Still wouldn’t make sense though to nerf the weapon just cus it buffs 2 elements
technically all skills can apply both heat and phys for rossi if Talent 2's On crit extra hits are heat 
Multiplier wise it’s pretty safe cus there’s no multiplier that treats heat 50% and Phys 50% as a 100% buff for example
It’d just be a 50% buff
the whale i know has p5 everything
idk how much money he’s spent already 😭
Well I finally finished artificing Tangtang just in time anyway. Likely not worth doing the last 3 strength pips on gloves & off-pieces. Won't increase overall ATK value by more than 10-15 damage.
Yeah that's a nice change CR as a sub stat is so poorly balanced compared to ATK that they kind of need to start giving CR 2nd stat weapons ATK% in their 3rd line.
Otherwise they're kind of inherently bad or have a huge performance hit to overcome.
Crazy there's a plausible line where rossi bp is better than rossi sig
Waiting to see numbers
Any new update on rossi tc? Kekw
Math heads does DOT crit in this game
Wth fr?

This is important to determine how fast rossi sig stacks
Rossi gonna defo run mi huh
Rn we looking at 4-5 stacks to max Rossi sig based on vid analysis
I still can't visualize her team tho tbh
Interesting thing to think about:
You can get 4 vuln with 100sp + arts burst ult
Example: Wulf Chen Gil Rossi
So like because rossi sig buffs both damage types it might have lower numbers to compensate
If most of rossi's damage is in fact in ult like the devs said then having a higher buff amount via bp weapon might be more damage than sig
Naturally this is speculative as we lack numbers for rossi and her weapon, but it's not necessarily unrealistic
Again obviously running her as anything but an ult nuker will reduce bp value increase sig value
Wulf procs Gil cs, with Gil bs, procs Chen cs and Rossi cs
It also buffs all dmg sources
Hmm interesting
And you know how much that tends to devalue the buffs
Furthermore here’s the kicker
Every single substats is the exact same for sig and bp
Agi crit rate atk%
And the atk% on p0 sig is likely weaker than on p5 bp
I notice it’s always there whenever the 2nd line isn’t attack
It’s pretty much a free attack line stat for the 3rd line
And it’s not like it makes the 3rd line worse either the numbers are still good
In order for sig to outpace p5 bp it’d need to be at least 80% dmg bonus at p0
So it’s either you get the big attack line on 2nd line or you get a free attack line on 3rd plus whatever you get on the 2nd line anyways
There is one thing I really dislike about Rossi's sig though, since ATK% is on the 3rd line. It's going to scale potentially quite heavily with potentials. To the point where the P5 weapon could make Rossi 30-40% stronger depending on how much ATK% it gets. This is kind of the inherent disadvantage of the devs refusing to fix their CR mistake. 
Which is kinda insane cos no other wp gives that kind of general buff
I mean it also depends on rossi damage split, what team she ends on and what rotation that team does
The bp has the same atk% and can be p5 
Okay 30-40% is an exaggeration
lol
GM p5 gives 19.6 atk%
Do we need to pull 5 weapons in akef 
It’s like half of line 2
P0 is 10% or smth
Really not at all if the sig has 20% more ATK at P5, an a bunch more DMG% 30% difference would be easy.
Yeah I said p5
That’s the standard
Brother
Not you
Okok
We don't know that yet sig could be different to BP weapon we'll see.
^
There’s a standard when it comes to these numbers
There are other 6 star weapons with attack on the 3rd line as well and it’s been the same
every single limited sig we've had so far has elemental dmg% on the 3rd line, and they all share the same number increase on potentials
this is the first atk% so it's hard to tell
Stats on 2nd line for 6 star is also all the same for same type
It’s a pretty standardised thing
Stop making things up there's no such thing as a standard when it comes tro ATK% on weapons.
Especially 3rd line
This one is not a straight attack
It’s conditional
To bp weapons
It’s likely balanced in context with the skill effect
I mean yes
We don't know the numbers still a lot of the value of her 3rd line passive could be in the top ATK% line. There is no standard at all.
But the point was its baseless to assume rossi sig HAS to match bp weapons
It could give more, it could give less
We do not know
Sure I guess I’m wrong
But it won’t be a 20% difference in attack on a passive line that has no conditions between p0 and p5
vibescrafting 
If it’s a 20% difference without needing them to do anything on attack directly I’ll eat a boot
glorious memory's atk% on the third line is 11.2% p0, 19.6% p5
is it the same as sig? we dont know
Probably
If we take valiant then it’ll be a 12% difference big deal 
More important is the skill effect diff
Thermite 16% at R4 third line
If it’s 60% it’s not enough
If it’s 70% it’s mid
80% maybe can compete with bp
Rmb that GM p5 is 100%
It’ll probably be balanced with the enhanced state in mind
I doubt p0 will beat p5 for Chen
But should easily be BiS for Rossi
has any of the BP weapons at p5 surpasses their signature counterpart at p0 anyone know?
We’d need to know the mult distribution for Rossi
No that ruins the point of the BP
hm
I think it’s a design issue
Cos if the buff was more crit dmg
It’s more comparable
Real vibescrafting is seeing the weapon was made by Raythean which also made Chi Xiao and therefore the sword will be OP
But we’re looking at dmg bonus rn
That is way more diluted vs crit dmg which we assumed it might be
It’ll probably be like Umbral torch
91% or so effectiveness for BP P5
Doubt it’ll go over 95%
Source being Devs wanting money
Again it’d need some insane mults at p0 for that to be true
Or Rossi would need balanced kit distribution
Enhanced state can easily reach that
And it's stack based
Stack based buffs scale pretty high
We’re looking at minimum 80% buff bro
80% dmg bonus
Even if we say 30% per stack and 5 stacks that's 150% 
Bro u crazy

Laev gets 105% on basics only in ult only
BP is 100% buff at P5 I don't see why a 150% DMG buff is crazy
Ts is a general buff to many dmg types
That’s on ult alone
You gotta understand distribution
Again ts is alr considered high
And that’s highly limited area of dmg
Rossi Sig will be affecting broad range of sources
Which unfortunately usually corresponds to low mults
Who to compare it to…
They do have the enhanced state for timing and downtime
Bro it’s not going to be hard to get into enhanced state
5 crits will get you there
According to the dev log
Ppl counted how many hits to max the stack
They should give her higher numbers based on it anyways
We'll see, Devs aren't dumb enough to make BP better than Sig
And I’m saying the numbers they’d have to give sig would make it broken for EVERY character
80% dmg bonus on everything is almost worth for Laev
Chen new BIS incoming
5 is Mi Sec. Wolf is like more than 10 stacks. Iana sheet has it a 16 stacks
It would be wildly inconsistent for Laev
You're gonna proc enhanced state after ult expires
And then enhanced state is gonna be off during ult
The icon that was being looked at was a wolf. That shit is not MI Sec.
You can't control when you get 5 crits
Idk how they counted 16
It deserves to have higher numbers
Rossi atk string has 9 hits
At max crit you have a good chance of getting max stacks within that string alone
Doesn't matter I'm referring to you saying it would be broken for every character
Laev is not going to build full crit for it
You're gonna randomly proc it when ur Ult isnt up
And again it’s almost worth if not for that. And also agi stat is not it
And expire when Ult is ready
just watch the first fight with Rossi in the Dev Log. you can easily see it stacks more than Mi Sec.
You need to be a dedicated crit unit to have it be consistent
Ok idk atp
Can we get actual numbers instead of wtf this is
It’s the icon but I can’t read the count

So yea on Rossi I can see it can be very consistent cus they balanced it around her
And her high number of attacks
But for everyone else it's probably crap
Fair nough on it being good only for Rossi
But I still say the buff can’t be that much at enhanced
Max is 80%
I cannot see it being any higher
As long as it's good enough to be 10% better than BP that's all that matters
Anyway guess I can finally commit to this fully now.
80% plus 50% boost to 120% during enhanced state I can see it
Then it falls off and you need to rebuild
Lmao prefarmed from data mine
I've been trying to find a good BP piece
But I only found 111

I burnt 60 WuLing tickets
Nope literally just had 1.7k gel saved 
Again Laev has 105% in only ult and only on basics
Doesn’t even proc for her bs
I was ready no matter what weapon essence she needed.
this look long, whats your resolution?
isnt that artzy essence?
Is it the same
No
Artzy is Int
I thought artzy was diff
7840x2160.
Hopefully my clannibal can finally be useful with rossi

Funny thing is my screen is nearly 3 years old now, an still nobody as put out anything close spec wise. The closest thing is that new Dell 52" 6k ultrawide. But it's still a lower resolution & lower refresh rate that my nearly 3 year old display.
aint ur eye tired with with such wide screen
They finally did a signature weapon that works on more than 1 character
just unlucky with weapon banner + built it for laev
Nope screen curves around you, plus you're only supposed to focus on the center with a super ultrawide anyway. The stuff on the edges of the screen is largely for immersion. No need to focus on it at all.
It might be Chens new BIS at P5 but who will roll a P5 sig like that for Chen 
Did we lose our pinned chart for essences?
I think that should be the case, tho I don't know how many files we are missing.
maybe is a really short maintenance
It's actually quite helpful in all honesty as well as it keeps cutter you don't want on your screen away from the center of it.
Just gives you a kind of "semi" VR experience as the game worlds wrap around your view rather than just betting a letter box on front of you.
What are the best gears to use for tang2 and yvonne
Thats a wide ass screen
Pick a team and a rot then ask again
Rot?
who's idea it was to hide 3 sky pole in this area...
Rotation
Different rotations have different ult gain requirements for Tangtang, I think Yvonne's is always static?
Most yvonne ones are similar yes, just needing uge chest
P1 removes that need
For tangtang*
Yvonne mostly does not run rots that need uge for herself
Uhh yvonne tang2 xaihi and either ardelia/perlica
for endmin chen lifeng pog who's the best to onfield purely for stagger buildup?
thats wiiiiiide
So is Asia getting Rossi earlier than EU/NA then?
I'm mostly just curious because I want to know full kit details.
Want to see if I can make Tangtang + Rossi work of if she's tied to a bum like Wulfguard because of the need to combust.
I really hope not as that'll badly hurt Rossi's potential value.
Yea im in asia so we'll see her first ahaha
u p5ing? striker 
naw im broke
just gonna get
Oh ya if ur from NA remember you can technically get 2 days of logins on tickets on day 1
I don't believe u
ur so rich
Hifumi
yeah
90% chance unless she's truly horrible with no redeeming futures.
If she's a buff to my Tangtang
Then 100%.
Rossi TT is a hypothetical team
Wulfgard, most likely
Not using the Vuln stacks makes me sad
Gilberta uses them
i saw a very funni lr, xai, endmin, rossi cook so 
She just does not consume them
either pog or dapan
Akekuri maybe?
Ake works too, may be better but I'd expect wulf to win
Ake is a bit too sp intensive
Generic support does generic things
Rossi Gilb Perl Ake will looks like it will be very easy to play
Gilberta+ Perlica just works
Harder to proc combustion and you struggle for your 4 stack corro
Is the akekuri issue
O is this corrosionmaxxing Rossi
Considering that you're not using SP that often with Rossi/Perl/Gil, someone like Wulf might be nice for his own buffs/debuffs
20% dmg on ult from Ake + SP generation and Frontier/Thermite vs. 15% Heat Dmg% and clannibal, as well as access to free combustion for enhanced Rossi Talent 2 procs might be nice
that’s tight
Clannibal probably designed around this
Clannibal finally usable
And yet might still be worse than obj depending on uge req
Wulfgard will probably be a secondary dps like Chen here
If rossi has a notably faster timeline and wulf cannot keep up without obj's uge then you might drop clannibal
P5 letting you get 2 Combo worth of ult energy nets you nearly half his required energy for ult with clannibal and current UGE set up doesnt it? 
Compared to just being a heat infliction slave
Since wulf dps is miserable in general
We dont know how fast rossi goes so we cannot say
I’d say if Clannibal can’t keep up you’d probably want to totally drop Wulf anyways
Add on how you want to save ult for rossi ult compared to it being for laev combo
Means uge works differently
And use someone else
We cannot consistently do the double combo wulf tech
All this is to say until we get numbers this means nothing
As with every other rossi discussion
I don’t see how Wulf provides enough if he can’t use Clannibal
It took a couple of days to figure tt out even with the numbers
It’s just combustion
It’s either Clannibal Wulfgard or you’ll just use someone like Akekuri is my guess
Is crush Rossi dead on the floor still? Or is there hopium somehow?
Still kinda hopium
Everythings on the table until she's released ngl
Endmin combo is way too hard to pull off with how Rossi combo works

You can’t sequence Endmin combo last
Cus you need to perfect timing Rossi combo
It’s a pretty horrendous anti synergy
If we use Crush it’s probably Dapan
What's endmin's combo requirement? Someone using a combo skill?
You'd have to pop it immediately after rossi's first combo
and the 2nd part would break it
Yall think we’ll get real numbers b4 the patch drops tmr
So you’ll proc Endmin combo on the first Rossi combo
And then you can’t not use it
You need to crush there
Yeah
when ally combo deals damage
some shenadiganery needs to happen for that to work yes
Yep
Well, you dont need to crush
its the same value if you crush or lift

Crush gives SP refund and massive damage from Endmin sig
the damage though
Even a 1 Vuln stack w Endmin sig is basically a 4 stack crush
That said you can also lift for the SP
We dont know
As with everything
Figured
Until we see rossi numbers we know nothing
and for a while after too
Endmin's sig only cares that crystals were applied
it's the same value wether endmin breaks it or someone else
Most stuff is premade for rossi atp so it'll be sort of fast for early direction
I guess if you crush without the 20% Phys damage received it’s okay 
But it'll take days to weeks to finalise TC
Tangtang took a few days yeah
Same way TT tc is mostly done but not final 2 weeks in
Initial impressions were poor until more extensive optimisations popped in
I saw so much TangTang doom posting
Datamine was pretty misleading for TT yeah
It’s kinda funny
pivot into sub-dps which turned out well
I gotta get my grp project stuff done asap b4 12 so I can do rossi math 
Numbers looked way worse than they were in practice
You trade 20% damage taken for 30% atk instead. And its SP return which is kinda ass ngl 👀
5-10% suscept and ppl thought it was the end of the world
TBF there was some dataminers saying 30%
Even mdps tt is working out tbf
5-10% is ass though still. What's carrying TT in Cryo comp is her personal dmg
And the sp refund for cheap cryo infliction
I mean it’s cyro
Don’t forget the 60sp infliction
is pog sig or thermite better on pog
They are already committing tax fraud
SP refund is over hated
It’s still free skill points and you can build around UGE
Thermite for now
Without it most phys rotations wouldn’t work
just curious as to why
Damage dealt is super saturated
Pog personal damage is not good
Atk% is not very saturated
Thermite is easier to get (at best free) whereas pog sig costs 16k
You can get 12.5% phys dmg from a chest piece
You cannot get 10% atk from gear
which gets flipped for Crit chars like Yvonne and Rossi 
SP refund from Endmin pretty much keeps the wheels spinning for Phys
Not really
Atk is still better than dam dealt buffs
For yvonne
speaking too soon Rossi has dmg sig
Well, for Yvonne she's carried by the massive amount of dmg% on her wep
We won’t be able to use the SP refund for Rossi though unless we crush early
Rossi-Perl-End-Gil?
Perl Combo -> Endmin Combo -> Endmin BS -> Gil Combo so you keep the vuln stack for Rossi's BS
oh wait you still need a vuln
Hmm
Why regen sp when it costs almost nothing to get phys stacks
200sp for 4 vuln stacks 
And it loops for 100sp each time
did someone say returned sp
endmin bs counts as vuln +gil combo
I guess you'd have to start with Rossi's BS or Endmin's BS to start that combo
You gil cs into Ard cs and spend only 100sp for Gil bs. Then u proc rossi cs and use rossi bs and crush with Da Pan
wtf
Then u rossi ult and get back heat stack
Oh wait yeah you can just use Endmin BS to apply Vuln and break crystals instead
Oh yeah I have a vid of such a guy. He’s in my FL
You need someone to proc Gil combo
Procs via applying Reaction
Perlica's combo applies Electrification
yeah but the dmg is so low its not worth 50 sp for it
@signal palm
Striker?
Or maybe it is we wouldnt know
Nah some random JP guy
Looks like Striker's account 

Imma keep him on my list to appraise his progress
When was this added it’s cute
Gonna see the p5/p5 Rossi
Bean propaganda
Mifu is nature trust
Remember guys we need to absolutely go nuts on speedrunning the bean power wash minigame
This is top priority for #theorycrafting
If it’s pulls we gotta
Except it’s locked to daily release missions 
For a week
They should do daily release for Umbral tbh
Would be nice to have everyone theory craft the stages individually
Instead of just saying
Oh stage 1 is so easy u should try stage 3
Yea if it’s 1 a day people will try to min max every stage
Drip feed us content HG
Would be more fun
Learn how to retain engagement
Still though
No crit rate passive on Rossi weapon effect
Right now people don’t really care about min maxing every stage
As in line 3?
Yeah line 3
Cos line 2 is 19.5% crit rate


